[00:00] this discovery explains a bunch more failures [00:00] so more progress [00:00] great :-) [00:00] thanks, you've been a great rubber duck :-) [00:01] that's me [00:01] sinzui: bug 1341589, there's been a comment made that we did ship godeps source in 1.20 - i made the assertion that we didn't, and i think you didn't think we did either? [00:01] <_mup_> Bug #1341589: Distribution tarball has licensing problems that prevent redistribution

[00:10] wallyworld, oops, we didn't delete all of it [00:10] wallyworld, I will add that to my list of deletes. [00:11] wallyworld, actually do we agree that I should delete [00:11] src/code.google.com/p/go.net/html/charset/testdata/ [00:11] src/github.com/binary132/gojsonschema/json_schema_test_suite [00:18] sinzui: nate is following up with the gojsonschema author to get the licensing sorted out for that. i think we can delete the html test data though [00:19] sinzui: the gojsonschema repo should be under juju as it was written on canonical time [00:19] wallyworld: seconded [00:19] it seems foolish to consume a dependency published in a personal account [00:19] nate is dealing with that, i'll follow up with him tonight [00:20] * davecheney mentions that he raised this issue 6 weeks ago when this dependency leaked into our codebase [00:23] rick_h__: can I nag you for more msdn keys [00:23] davecheney: wallyworld it was forked from an existing repo though I recall [00:23] rick_h__: that's just great [00:23] davecheney: sure, same software etc? [00:23] ^ insert heavy sarcasm [00:23] * wallyworld has no idea, wasn't involved with the development [00:23] rick_h__: i'll 'ahem' get the cd somewhere else [00:23] i'll email you [00:23] davecheney: ok souds good [00:23] sounds that is [00:26] rick_h__: thanks, I only have a dodgy xp vm that i've been tending for close to a decade now [00:26] seriously, the install date of that vm is 2007 [00:28] davecheney: did you put the other key to use? [00:28] davecheney: or do you want that one again? [00:28] davecheney: I've got 5 to use so want to make sure I reuse if that's what'll work [00:28] rick_h__: let me check my irc log [00:29] davecheney: k, if you're not using it I can resend that one [00:29] davecheney: I just want to check if you need a second NEW one, or if that other one will work [00:29] rick_h__: i have one starting 39 [00:29] is that win32 or win64 [00:29] because windows is amazing [00:29] davecheney: either. [00:29] davecheney: so will get you that one and a second one then [00:30] rick_h__: ok [00:30] given how short supply they are i'll use this key for a win64 install [00:30] and keep using my xp 32 bit vm [00:30] until that becomes unworkable [00:30] davecheney, MS published free images for web development testing. The work with virtualbox and MS even recommends snapshotting them to prevent them from expiring [00:30] davecheney: all good [00:30] sinzui: linkage ? [00:31] sinzui: i know this isn't your fault [00:31] but this is crap [00:31] if we're developing on windows, we shouldn't be scrapping together resources to get win dev machines [00:31] this is serious software development, it should be done properly [00:31] davecheney: replied [00:31] davecheney, But I have been using win images in the cloud this year, when I need on, I just start an instance from the snapshot that does the windows tests. it has golang 1.2, python 2.7 and a ssh [00:32] rick_h__: ta, when you say 'the download' is that the one that I should look for, um, online ? [00:33] davecheney: I imagine. I ink it should work on anything of the right version though [00:33] davecheney: though you'll know more of windows than me soon [00:34] yay. life skills [00:34] :) [00:34] job security, no one else will want to do it! [00:38] wallyworld: full test suite pass with *some* of the watcher infrastructure copying sessions [00:38] voidspace: farking awesome [00:39] wallyworld: so now to change all the rest [00:39] time for you to git push and then go to bed :-) [00:39] pushed [00:39] \o/ tyvm [00:39] wallyworld: some of them do lovely things like send collections (which have a session reference of course) across a channel [00:39] so who closes the session then... [00:39] so those changes will need more thought [00:39] lalalalalala [00:39] probably stick to using the global session and the receiver can copy [00:39] * wallyworld covers his ears and pretends not to hear [00:39] hah [00:40] but agree with receiver copying [00:42] davecheney, Sorry, took forever to find the link, and then remember the blog post about how I got it downloaded [00:42] http://blog.launchpad.net/general/a-tale-of-two-travesties [00:43] davecheney, The vhd you want is probably different since windows and ie have changed [00:44] ok [00:44] i read that as 'the tale of two transvestites' [00:44] now I can't unsee it [00:44] wallyworld: I'm in town while the kids are at a movie, I won't be home in time for our meeting start [00:44] movie finishes 10 minutes before our meeting [00:45] thumper: np, just ping e whenever [00:45] wallyworld: kk [00:45] thumper: what movie? [00:45] tinkerbell and some pirate... [00:45] hence me not going [00:45] lol, that's why you are in town [00:45] if it was how to train your dragon 2, I probably would have gone [00:46] thumper: saw that with the boy, it's ok [00:46] thumper: that sounds an awful lot like peter pan [00:46] from an odd point of view [00:46] perrito666: it probably is [00:46] haha [00:46] rick_h__: the dragon one? [00:47] yea [00:47] * perrito666 would fancy a movie about captain hook and the annoying young boy and his fairy [00:48] * perrito666 saw many kid movie blockbusters on the plane back from the last sprint [00:48] they had cloudy with a change of burgers 2 [00:49] anyway, Ill go to sleep so I am ready for our "too early to be pleasant" morning meeting, cheers everyone [00:55] wallyworld: ah, the transaction stuff breaks the test hooks, because they expect a global transaction runner [00:55] wallyworld: so that needs fixing too [00:55] shouldn't be too hard [00:56] voidspace: yeah, i did something in the blobstore sub repo - we can do something similar here too [00:56] go to bed! [00:56] I could still use a global jujutxn.Runner and have *it* recreate the underlying transaction runner [00:56] that would actually be nicer [00:57] the code would look the same... inside state [00:57] still not very tired :-/ [00:57] haven't got to sleep until around 4am the last two nights [00:57] voidspace: I've been on odd hours as well [00:57] wwitzel3: morning [00:58] wwitzel3: we had our scan today - 7 1/2 weeks [00:58] voidspace: morning, congrats, all is well? [00:58] wwitzel3: I double checked and I wasn't on a sprint that week, which was a relief ;-) [00:58] yeah, all is well [00:58] wonderful [00:58] and there's only one - which is a *big* relief [00:58] hah, oh that's right .. sometimes there is more than one in there [00:59] slightly more likely if you're as old as us [00:59] wwitzel3: how's you? [00:59] voidspace: really? I didn't know that. I'm well, just messing around with tests still :/ [00:59] apparently so [01:00] wwitzel3: heh, I've been doing that all day - *just* got the tests passing with some session copying in place [01:00] voidspace: some where something is doing an extra Close on state so when a teardown runs, mgo throws a NPE. [01:00] ouch [01:01] voidspace: I'm "walking" it now [01:01] heh [01:01] voidspace: printing and panicing since I could never get gdb working right [01:01] I was walking JujuConnSuite.SetupTest [01:01] and that's a beast [01:02] heh, yeah - panics are very useful for that [01:02] "stop here" [01:02] yeah, these tests don't use JujuConnSuite, just Base and Mgo suite. [01:02] but it is still a hassle [01:05] right, I'm going to meditate and hopefully fall asleep [01:05] see you all tomorrow... [01:05] voidspace: see ya [01:05] o/ [01:05] thumper: enjoy tinkerbell... [01:55] sinzui: we get this particular one a lot - it might help a bit if juju had some way to timeout and report that the node has no internet access? [02:00] bigjools: what's the problem? machines not coming up because they can't apt-get? [02:14] axw: I think so [02:14] it just hangs on bootstrap [02:16] hrm, ok. bootstrap *should* time out after 5 minutes by default [02:19] thumper: your change and mine are going to have merge conflicts. sucks to be me :) [02:25] wallyworld: there's a new mgo release coming soon, so I think it's best I hold off proposing any changes till I can update [02:26] I have some workarounds in the juju code now that will be irrelevant with that [02:26] axw: how soon? [02:26] axw: sure, np. [02:26] I'll continue on with killing Environ.StateInfo [02:26] thumper: don't know sorry [02:26] axw: otp, will chat soon [02:27] thumper: well, it doesn't say "soon", but upcoming: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mgo/+bug/1340361/comments/1 [02:27] <_mup_> Bug #1340361: RemoveUser of non-existent user has different behaviour with mongo 2.4/2.6 [02:33] axw: "should" :) [02:35] bigjools: I've witnessed the timeout working recently. There was a recent change to add a longer default for MAAS (for !fastpath-installer) -- maybe it's just not reaching that longer timeout yet [02:35] can't remember how long's long [02:35] axw: that would be it [02:38] thumper: I'm done with the review. A few things but nothing major. [03:10] axw: michael has made good progress on the io timeout issue; he should be able to push up a fairly complete branch tomorrow and we can pick up from there [03:12] wallyworld: cool. [03:12] wallyworld: I have moved address propagation to the backlog, pending additional network/relation hook changes [03:12] axw: yup, np [03:18] katco: are you still as enthusiastic as your initial blog post? [03:32] katco: don't answer that, it's a trap [03:32] thumper: i'm going to head out for lunch [03:32] do you want to talk to me today about HR stuffs ? [03:32] kk [03:32] davecheney: nah, tomorrow it is [03:32] thumper: np [03:39] bbl === thumper is now known as thumper-afk [03:42] ok, windows 8 install [03:42] complete [03:43] brb, just going to drink some cynaide [03:43] It's good over ice [03:43] mmm, laudinum [04:32] wwitzel3: you got jetlag going from southeast US to northeast US ? === thumper-afk is now known as thumper [04:50] wallyworld: I think I remember why that provisioner code was there [04:50] wallyworld: got a minute? [04:50] sure [04:50] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g6p7d3ldngpmaqhkp5pqyyhidia?authuser=1&hl=en [05:26] thumper: any chance you can look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/322 [05:26] menn0: yep, just doing some hr stuff first [05:26] thumper: ok [05:47] menn0: done [05:47] dinner time [05:47] back for meeting in 4 hours === thumper is now known as thumper-back-at- === thumper-back-at- is now known as thumper-af-ktill === thumper-af-ktill is now known as thumper-afk [05:48] bugger [06:23] mornin' all === vladk|offline is now known as vladk === uru_ is now known as urulama === seelaman` is now known as seelaman [07:11] thumper: thanks for the review. merging now. === bradm1 is now known as bradm [08:09] davechen1y, ping ping? [08:11] davechen1y, cancel that [08:25] morning all [08:25] morning voidspace [08:25] o/ [08:28] Hi [08:28] is -relation-departed hook is executed after remove unit from service? [09:14] Egoist, quoting juju-core/doc/charms-in-action.txt: The "relation-departed" hook for a given unit always runs once when a related unit is no longer related. After the "relation-departed" hook has run, no further notifications will be received from that unit; however, its settings will remain accessible via relation-get for the complete lifetime of the relation. [09:24] jam, ping [09:24] dimitern: /wave [09:25] jam, should we have a quick hand-off chat re networking? [09:25] certainly [09:25] give me a sec to grab headphones [09:25] sure [09:25] dimitern: jam: any interesting regarding ipv6 (especially for lxc) here? [09:26] jam, i'm in the standup g+ [09:27] * TheMue simply will join too [09:27] TheMue, come as well yes [09:27] morning everyone [09:27] morning perrito666 [09:27] perrito666: o/ [09:28] jam: with this code all the tests pass (there's "some" session copying going on in the watchers) [09:28] https://github.com/voidspace/juju/compare/master...copy-sessions [09:28] jam: that removes the password hashing from the dummy provider and also from JujuConnSuite [09:29] TheMue: dimitern: want to join me in https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/juju-sapphire [09:29] jam: already in [09:34] axw: what was the final results of address changes for charms? [09:35] voidspace: sounds good, I wanted to check with the list that it was time we could do it, but it sounds like we are ready [09:35] cool [09:37] jam: not much for now. for the short term, I've updated the uniter so that config-changed is triggered on machine/unit address change. in the longer term, (I think?) there will be a relation equivalent of config-changed that will be triggered when relation addresses change [09:37] so, no automatic changes for now [09:37] I've moved the card to the backlog [10:06] mgz: ping for team standup? [10:27] jam: hah, I guess I did. (re: jet lag) === wwitzel3_ is now known as wwitzel3 [10:29] what else is using juju/txn now that it has been broken out into a separate package? [10:30] 'coz I want to change the transaction runner in a backwards incompatible way [10:31] voidspace, wwitzel3: all team meeting? [10:31] natefinch: yep, sure [10:32] natefinch: I can join [10:32] for the sake of nostalgia [10:33] oh! [10:33] all team meeting [10:33] cool [10:52] doh, should have looked at calendar [10:54] voidspace: blobstore [10:55] Guest63023: ok, thanks === Guest63023 is now known as wallyworld [10:55] wallyworld: ah, I wondered who you were :-) [10:55] wallyworld: so I want to make the underlying transaction runner do the session copying [10:55] stupd freenode [10:56] wallyworld: as that's the correct thing to do [10:56] wallyworld: but it changes the signature of NewRunner [10:56] voidspace: go for it, tht would be awesome' [10:56] i'll fix blobstore [10:56] wallyworld: and only the replicaset tests fail when I do that [10:56] they fail a lot anyway :-) [10:56] wallyworld: although obviously the txn tests themselves won't run [10:57] hah [10:57] they fail deterministically now [10:57] so I guess you could call that progress... [10:57] yup :-D [10:57] we should do what's the best approach and fix tests accordingly [10:57] only one fails, and it looks like it's the ipv6 one [10:58] hmmm, that may be different root cause? [10:58] well, it was passing and now it's failing... [10:58] but the specific error is that ""exception: need most members up to reconfigure, not ok" [10:58] there's one ip6 one that has been flakey [10:58] which maybe indicates a timing issue [10:58] yep [10:58] I don't think it's this one that is the normally flaky one [10:59] hmmm, strange that it's just the 1 test [10:59] this one just starts a replicaset with members location specified using ipv6 format (so the replicaset members talk to each other over ipv6) [10:59] yeah, I'm digging into it [10:59] can't see how session clone relates to that, unless sockets somehow break on ip6 [11:00] it may just be that the extra connections need some extra time [11:00] that would be more plausible [11:00] try increasing the sleep just for shits and giggles to see what happens [11:01] yep [11:01] but coffee first [11:11] interestingly the bot has been pretty solid for the last few days [11:11] all the red seems to be real issues [11:24] mgz, really? I had 2 reds yesterday - one landed successfully, the other was genuine [11:26] dimitern: ah, the only one of yours I saw looked real [11:27] mgz, there was a test failure previously on the same PR [11:28] mgz, the funny thing though is how jenkins decides to mark a build red very early.. seems fishy [11:29] oh, yeah, something jenkinsie went wrong on 43, which wasn't test related [11:29] I forgot that I'd requeued that [11:31] wallyworld: I'm not going to make the standup, team meeting ate into dinner [11:32] they ate your dinner?! [11:32] axw: no problem at all, talk tomorrow [11:32] wallyworld: I've got my StateInfo branch all working, need to tidy up and split it [11:32] great :-) [11:32] and now there seem to be more action test races [11:33] :-( [11:33] * axw goes for dinner [11:33] axw: i'd like to continue to remove ome more old cruft too [11:46] why would a test be trying to actual create a machine with the 'someprovider' from the FakeConfig when calling AddMachine? [11:47] the testing is erroring with value *errors.errorString = &errors.errorString{s:"no registered provider for \"someprovider\""} ("no registered provider for \"someprovider\"") === BradCrittenden is now known as bac [11:58] katco: mgz: i'll be a bit late for standup, in another meeting [11:59] wallyworld: poke when ready [12:00] poke me too, I finished dinner and am around atm [12:03] good morning all [12:04] katco: o/ [12:04] voidspace: hallo [12:05] wallyworld: just FYI, it was a timing issue - around destroying instances [12:05] wallyworld: we need to give the replicaset time to adjust [12:05] voidspace: yeah, thought so :-) [12:05] wallyworld: not sure why it wasn't biting us before [12:05] katco: morning [12:05] wallyworld: we have some "strategy" code around the other operations to deal with it [12:05] that's the natue of it [12:05] wwitzel3: howdy [12:05] wwitzel3: but weren't using it around Remove [12:05] sigh [12:05] oops, sorry wwitzel3 [12:06] wallyworld: well, I'm happy it was an easy fix [12:06] voidspace: yes :-) [12:06] wallyworld: I have a doctors appointment soon - but should have a txn branch to propose later today [12:06] katco: morning, i'm running late, in another meeting [12:06] voidspace: you're awesome [12:07] wallyworld: no worries, just yell when you're ready [12:07] wallyworld: haha, wait until you see how much I leave you to do before you say that [12:07] wallyworld: but thanks [12:07] lol [12:07] * wallyworld is nervous :-) [12:08] voidspace: you rewrote juju in python didn't you [12:08] rerewrote [12:08] katco: we actually came up with a way to do that [12:08] rofl [12:08] a go to python source translator would be relatively easy [12:08] -.- [12:08] hah [12:09] so we do that, run it once, then switch to Python dev [12:10] mgz said he would work on it over the weekend [12:10] >_< [12:10] :-) [12:10] haha [12:13] axw: replied to your latest review comment (thank you). so i'm OK to add a file-lock to the bootstrap command? [12:14] mgz: katco: ready :-) [12:14] katco: thanks, will read them in a bit. i'm not sure - is it actually possible to get into the race condition with the same $JUJU_HOME? the .jenv file is meant to be a sort of lock [12:15] axw: maybe we can discuss a little at the end of the standup [12:26] jam1, sure [12:26] joining [12:26] oh [12:36] dimitern: ping [12:39] does anyone know how to get a user/password to connect to a github.com/juju/testing . MgoInstance? [12:48] perrito666: sorry, I'm not sure. If you figure it out, can you make a quick PR to put that info in the comments of MgoInstance? [12:50] natefinch: I certainly will once I do [12:53] mgz, dimitern, rogpeppe, jam: any of you guys able to point perrito666 to how he can get the user/password for a testing.MgoInstance? [12:53] natefinch: user admin [12:53] password dummy-secret IIRC, or testing.DefaultMongoPassword ? [12:58] jam: testing.DefaultMongoPassword does not work I get auth fails, Ill keep looking , I eventually will figure out or throw the computer over the window [12:58] perrito666: where in the code are you trying to do it? [12:59] perrito666: environs/dummy/environs.go Bootstrap sets the password to Config().AdminSecret() [12:59] (or the hash of it before first connect) [12:59] (line 654) [13:00] jam: I am writing tests for the new restore, most, if not all uses in tests use MustDial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [13:00] perrito666: so for restore, are we bootstrapping with the dummy environ? [13:00] if we haven't ever connected to it before then the password should be Hash(password) [13:01] but in real "restore" wouldn't the jujud have come up at least 1 time? [13:01] maybe in testing it hasn't [13:01] perrito666: so I have to ask a bit where this is getting set up, as it probably makes a difference [13:02] until you bootstrap, I don't tihnk we have any users in mong [13:02] mongo [13:05] perrito666: fwiw voidspace has been working in this place a bunch right now, he might have answers if I'm out [13:05] jam: mm, I see I have not yet connected to it at that point, I am writing tests for the function that re-sets replset [13:05] morning #juju-dev :) [13:05] jam: tx for the info :) [13:05] bodie_: hi [13:05] morning bodie_ [13:11] bodie_: heya [13:13] sinzui: chat? [13:13] yes [13:13] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Y3VydGlzQGNhbm9uaWNhbC5jb20.5o5o70vgo1v23fjnopr1famgrg?authuser=1 [13:23] TheMue, did you have anything more to add on PR 311? [13:24] I was talking about a change to the whole thing with fwereade -- I have some content I've been working on but refactoring the tests ended up being a big chunk [13:27] bodie_: will take a look [13:28] * TheMue ’s irc client forgot to notify me in case of a mention :( [13:35] bodie_: can you put that license file in gojsonschema ASAP? It's blocking our release === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [13:36] bodie_: I presume the right thing to do is just pull down the one added to the upstream repo [13:39] natefinch, sure, give me 5 minutes to wrap up here. mgz gave me the impression it wasn't a front of the line concern, sorry to keep you waiting [13:39] bodie_: it's ok, I didn't really follow up yesterday. [13:39] FWIW, I blame mgz too ;) [13:41] voidspace: ping? [13:41] perrito666: I have to go to the doctors - like *right* now [13:41] bodie_: finishing your branch was more important, which you did :) [13:41] * bodie_ throws a tomato at mgz [13:42] voidspace: no hurry [13:42] perrito666: I shouldn't be long though and we can talk when I get back [13:42] cu later or tomorrow [13:42] perrito666: ok [13:42] mgz, if it LGTY, LMK ;) [13:43] TSGTM [13:43] * natefinch just figured out bodie_'s github account name [13:44] hehehe [13:44] now I feel a little silly... that name is a throwback to my teens [13:44] haha [13:45] mgz, natefinch, did you want to have a brief chat about whether we should be using my repo or try to get a proper update merged into xeipuuv's? [13:45] bodie_: neither. we should fork yours into github/juju [13:45] that's what seemed reasonable to me as well [13:46] bodie_: I'm not confident that xeipuuv will keep it up to date, and since it's written on canonical time, it should be in a canonical repo [13:46] that was my primary reason for keeping my work in my fork, he seemed unresponsive on some queries [13:46] also, we don't want to be blocked on some external person accepting our pull requests for our code to work [13:46] right [13:46] can I simply create a repo in juju? [13:47] nate can [13:47] you can't, but I can. I think what we'll do is have you put the license in your repo, and then I'll just fork your repo into juju [13:47] cool [13:47] I do want the gap between upstream and us to be as small as possible, and them to be aware of our changes [13:48] natefinch: bodie_ you made me look up [13:48] mgz: that's pretty fair. Maybe fork upstream and merge in bodie_'s changes? [13:48] perrito666: haha [13:48] * perrito666 notices he has been wearing his headphones without music for 2 hs [13:49] perrito666: haha, I do that all the time. :) [13:49] hate it when that happens... I don't want sweaty ears unless I'm getting something out of it! :P [13:49] https://github.com/juju/gojsonschema [13:49] bodie_: its winter, my ears feel pretty good about the heat [13:50] natefinch, I'll poke a change into core quickly to use that and whatnot [13:50] bodie_: ok. I need to merge in your stuff first. hopefully it'll just work :/ [13:51]