=== LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away [03:07] hi. My screen just hangs after I log in .. the panel never appears. [03:07] lubuntu 14.04 [03:12] HypothesisFrog: Can you log out? ctrl-alt-del i think? [03:15] HypothesisFrog: do you see the normal desktop as the guest user? [03:16] holstein: Hi :D [03:16] o/ [03:17] :D [03:19] holstein good q [03:19] bbiab [03:20] sydney well I press the power button and it shuts down normally. Can get into shell by going ctrl-alt-F2 as well. [03:20] re bbiab [03:21] HypothesisFrog: So,can you right click,or open terminal? [03:25] ... [03:30] HypothesisFrog: are you there? [03:35] bye!! [12:01] hello [12:02] I'm tying to install lubuntu on a mac without functioning usb/disc drive [12:02] i thought to maybe use virtual box as a lifeboat [12:02] is this the best way ? [18:55] i am using a windows machine and i want to ssh to my lubuntu machine with x dispaly. how can i do that? i am new to linux :/ [18:55] !puty [18:55] !putty [18:55] PuTTY is an !SSH client for Windows. Please see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage and downloads. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) [18:55] i am using putty [18:55] dj_beirut: ^ thats what i use to ssh from windows to ssh servers.. [18:56] i can ssh to it. but i want to see the screen on my windows machine. using the lubuntu as almost a headless server [18:56] you can forward x over ssh.. or use many screen sharing options.. vnc, etc.. if you are "new", try teamviewer [19:19] can anyone tell me why i would download the .iso image which says its 683 mb, but when i try to burn to a 700 mb disk it says the image is 716 mb, and so produces errors in burn? [19:24] mikubuntu: download error? did you check the md5? [19:25] wxl -- i been fighting with it so long i want to try something else --- can i install unetbootin to a live cd session and install from net? [19:26] mikubuntu: i guess you could, but if it's a simple download error (which the md5 will tell you in a heartbeat), you can just install zsync and you won't even have to download the whole thing again [19:27] wxl: could you help me with that? [19:27] !md5 | mikubuntu [19:27] mikubuntu: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [19:27] !zsync | mikubuntu [19:27] mikubuntu: Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage [19:28] i'll check it out -- i don't think the image is bad because i used the same one to load this machine im chatting on [19:29] mikubuntu: might have been the burn. you can check that like above to find out how to md5sum the cd or usb. [20:30] the zsync page that someone directed me to is not clear to me -- am i to understand that if i terminal: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync that it will correct any anomolies in 14.04 ?? [20:32] my 4th install attempt on the other machine seems to be stuck at 'configuring apt' in the install part of the program [20:35] mikubuntu: at the end of the zsync, it will report back if there is a mis match in checksum. [20:36] once you have a good image, burn it at the slowest speed possible. Then when you 1st boot with it, run the self test to check it has burned correctly. [20:37] phillw: output: failed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync could not read control file from URL [20:38] mikubuntu: did you install zsync on your machine?> [20:38] yes, according to instruction on the zsych page [20:39] You may need to -o your file and use the standard Ubuntu image at releases.u.c [20:39] if you did, then go to the directory that has the iso file and check that you 'own' it. [20:40] and issue the command [20:40] zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20140705/trusty-desktop-i386.iso.zsync [20:41] my problem is that even tho the file says its 683 mb, when i go to burn to a cd it says its 716 mb and apparently can only burn 95% of the image ... i tried loading with the dvd that i used on this machine and it fails multiple times (right now stuck for 30 mins at 'configuring apt' ... the bios will not let me boot from usb either [20:43] mikubuntu: try grabbing the alpha1 (I'll just get the link) [20:44] mikubuntu: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.10/alpha-1/ [20:45] if you are still getting over-size errors, grab the alternate , it is some 100 Mb smaller [20:46] hmmmm ... is a cd-r re-recordable? [20:47] Nope... [20:47] CD-RW is though [20:49] great -- guess i have to go out and find somewhere to lift a new cd then .... arrrrrrgh ... maybe kelly has one [20:52] I have a dvd-rw that I use, it forces my burner to burn really slow and can handle over-sized images. mine was 1 GBP from a discount store. [20:54] mikubuntu: you don't have a usb? [20:56] phillw: A quid? [20:56] Oh my [20:56] SonikkuAmerica: yup. [20:57] poundland :) [20:58] Jeremy Clarkson got a car for use in one iaode of Top Gear for £1 [20:58] s/iaode/episode/ [20:59] mikubuntu: also, if the site for ISO's is busy, head over to my mirror at http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/ in your case the command would be [20:59] zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.zsync [21:01] SonikkuAmerica: good form. phillw usually forgets the ending slash. :) [21:01] So do I [21:02] (Normally) [21:03] phillw: sry mssd ur messages was on the phone begging a blank cd it should be here in 10 mins and i'll try the alt installer, its 5pm here and i started messing with this at 9am .... arghh [21:03] tsk tsk tsk [21:04] wxl: yes i have a usb, but the box won't let me assign it for boot [21:05] mikubuntu: in that case... [21:05] cp lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso lubuntu-14.04-alternat-i386.iso [21:05] followed by [21:05] zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso.zsync [21:06] it will save having to download the entire iso again. [21:07] but the target machine won't let me do anything in live mode either, so i think i have to dl the alt anyways its only 8 mins [21:07] "alternat" should have an e at the end. Case and spelling are important. [21:08] prolly less for the alt is only about 600 mb looks like [21:08] mikubuntu: okies... use my mirror, it is often faster than the main server :) [21:09] already bookmarked your site, but the alt dl is done, just waiting for the blank cd to arrive [21:11] SonikkuAmerica: he he... yeah, I must put my new keyboard into piglet (existing one has no 'E' key. [21:12] I once had a word processor where S wouldn't work for a while... Poor Jeica... [21:12] And amuel too [21:13] I've got fairly used to it, but sometimes it does not work :) === LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze [21:53] i don't get it --- never had this much trouble doing an install -- i think for the first time ever in my experience, xfburn got to about 59% and then returned a 'burn fail' notice [21:58] phillw: looking for the alternate installer 14.04 on your site but can't find it [21:58] mikubuntu: zsync http://phillw.net/isos/lubuntu/trusty/release/lubuntu-14.04-alternate-i386.iso.zsync [21:59] phillw: why does it have .zsync at the end of the file name? [21:59] mikubuntu: that is because it to be used by zsync [22:00] phillw: that won't affect xfburn recognising it as an iso? [22:01] no, it will download th iso, let me just reset the permissions on the file [22:03] mikubuntu: permissions reset. [23:10] is there anything that might typically cause a hang up during install, like now seems to be hung up in 'select and install' at 'configuring man-db' ?? [23:11] mikubuntu: does the cd self test okay? [23:11] and i did the self test on this disc before running said it was ok [23:12] oh, wait, it started moving again, at 65% ... [23:12] 66% [23:12] mikubuntu: is it an older computer? [23:13] not really, its a box that my friend built [23:13] but he isn't familiar with most software issues (and i couldn't build a box) [23:13] okies, they can seem to hang, dpkg (right near the end) can take 90 minutes [23:14] 72% ... please god, let this finish, everyone else is downstairs eating dinner and i'm still messing with this damn box ... lol [23:15] as long as the cd said it was a happy bunny, my advice is patience. (Also, when using the alternate ISO - disconnect from internet, so the machine is forced to use the cd and not go and try and get everything from the internet). [23:16] I always drop internet and then update once machine is running... alternate installer is a funny beast at times, but I swear by it :) [23:17] mikubuntu: go have dinner.... it should have finished by the time you have eaten! [23:17] i don't understand why they let the regular installer go over 700 mb, when 700 is the standard cd size [23:18] mikubuntu: lubuntu has a constant battle with keeping CD size. I'm not sure why you are seeing over size, only the desktop ppc image is oversized.