[00:16] hm, how is a squashfs image used? [00:32] quem: Generally to contain a read only compressed image of a LiveCD/USB root filesystem. [00:37] ah. [00:37] hi ho [00:37] hello [02:01] hi yoho yoho [02:09] could install the latest daily of trusty-desktop-i386.iso on an old asus eee 900, but not trusty-server-i386.iso [02:10] quem: id check the iso [02:12] i did... md5 was correct. [02:14] what was the failure? === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina [03:11] quem how much ram on your eee 900? [03:11] also the -server version might assume pae [03:12] spikebike: 1gb. [03:12] switching from desktop to server now. [03:12] ah, I'd think that would be enough for a -server install [03:13] i hope it'll reboot fine, for i do not wish to do this again. :) [03:17] not sure if ubuntu publishes minimum ram for an install [03:24] spikebike: rebooted fine. :) [03:34] spikebike: neat that root logins aren't allowed through ssh by default anymore. if i had the time, i'd go through every little change from release to release === Guest95169 is now known as jack [04:57] quem: thats nothing new [04:58] Hello, neither adobe-flashplugin or flashplugin-installer work in chromium-34.0.1847.116-0ubuntu2 on kubuntu 14.04 LTS. I created symbolic links to libflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins and also peppers, but the browser does not report a Flash plugin present. Any of you with the same problem? [05:51] Is there no RC for 14.04? Should I download the daily image instead? === warddr is now known as warddr_quassel [05:54] Yes, or update from your current installation. [05:56] Thank you facorread, downloading... (for a new installation...) [05:56] (on this system I'm on 14.04 since December... :)) === rww changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to #ubuntu+1, the channel for discussion of pre-release versions of Ubuntu. Pre-release versions are unstable and will probably break your computer somehow. | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule | Daily ISO: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current | Release estimate: April 17th | Free virtual celebratory cake: #ubuntu-release-party [06:24] !14.10 [06:24] little early for that :P [06:25] Is the codename known yet? [06:25] michagogo|cloud: nope [06:25] I thought those were decided a couple releases ahead... [06:26] What was the command to look up packages in trusty, btw? [06:26] in the bot? [06:27] and they're decided right around release day [06:27] Yeah [06:27] I seem to remember it having one [06:27] !info irssi trusty [06:27] irssi (source: irssi): terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.15-5ubuntu3 (trusty), package size 852 kB, installed size 2388 kB [06:27] !info bitcoin trusty [06:27] Package bitcoin does not exist in trusty [06:27] !info bitcoind trusty [06:27] Package bitcoind does not exist in trusty [06:28] Okay, that's what I thought I remembered [06:28] !info litecoin trusty [06:28] Package litecoin does not exist in trusty [06:28] * michagogo|cloud shakes his fist at autocorrect [06:28] !info litecoind trusty [06:28] Package litecoind does not exist in trusty [06:29] Hm, is tree a way to search for other *coind packages? [06:29] michagogo|cloud: use the PPAs instead, they update too often for us to release stable packages of them, I believe [06:29] There* [06:29] i think electrum or one of those things is in the repo tho [06:29] !info electrum trusty [06:29] electrum (source: electrum): Easy to use bitcoin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-1 (trusty), package size 123 kB, installed size 1044 kB [06:29] rww: yeah, I know -- it's because of me that it's not in the archives :-) [06:29] I was just making sure that it hadn't snuck back in since being removed [06:30] michagogo|cloud: ah. not sure if I should thank you for prompting the right thing, or shake my fist because people keep going on about compiling coin stuff in #ubuntu :P [06:30] Unfortunately old versions are still around in older released [06:30] Releases* [06:30] * rww nods [06:30] !info bitcoind precise [06:30] bitcoind (source: bitcoin): peer-to-peer network based anonymous digital currency - daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.24~dfsg-1 (precise), package size 477 kB, installed size 1188 kB [06:30] That version is useless, baa socially [06:31] Wtf, autocorrect? [06:31] Basically* [06:31] That version of the software won't sync up with the network [06:31] !info bitcoind quantal [06:31] bitcoind (source: bitcoin): peer-to-peer network based digital currency - daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2.2-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 616 kB, installed size 1541 kB (Only available for any-alpha; any-amd64; armel; armhf; any-i386; any-ia64; any-mipsel; any-sh4) [06:31] I think that one won't work either [06:32] !info bitcoind raring [06:32] bitcoind (source: bitcoin): peer-to-peer network based digital currency - daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-1 (raring), package size 964 kB, installed size 3072 kB (Only available for any-alpha; any-amd64; any-arm; any-i386; any-ia64; any-mipsel; any-sh4) [06:32] That one will sync, but is an older version and is missing a lot in the way of fixes and stuff, I think [06:34] I think the person I was talking to (Steve something, maybe) was saying that there would probably be justification for removing it, but because of the way releases work it's impossible to actually remove the package from the list or something [06:34] Langasek? [06:35] So to get it removed, someone would need to create a dummy update that removes the functionality and gives a message explaining it [06:35] rww: yeah, I think so [06:35] and yeah, I don't think I've seen packages disappear in SRUs before, so it's probably not something they've coded for [06:35] yeah, he knows his stuff :) [06:35] ...and then propose that dummy package as an update to the current versions [06:36] * rww nods [06:36] I would do it, if I had any idea how the whole Ubuntu packaging thing works [06:37] hm === jack is now known as Guest87570 [06:37] I think I tried reading about it and wasn't able to understand everything from what I was reading [06:37] why does 14.04 still have old openssl? [06:37] Eep [06:37] !info libssl trusty [06:37] Package libssl does not exist in trusty [06:37] !info OpenSSL trusty [06:37] oh, nvm, built on: Mon Apr 7 21:22:23 UTC 2014 [06:37] Package OpenSSL does not exist in trusty [06:38] What's it called? [06:38] !info openssl trusty [06:38] openssl (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility. In component main, is standard. Version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 468 kB, installed size 899 kB [06:38] !info openssl trusty [06:38] Ah [06:38] !info libssl1.0 [06:38] ar: yeah, the fix got backported :) [06:38] libssl1.0.0 (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - shared libraries. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 760 kB, installed size 2700 kB [06:39] I guess it happened too late to package g [06:40] rww: you seem to appreciate that Bitcoin shouldn't be packaged by Ubuntu [06:41] Do you know anything about packaging? [06:41] michagogo|cloud: nope, unfortunately not, and I'm fine with leaving it in the repositories and having it go away as people upgrade :P [06:42] Aww. I was going to ask if you felt like making the dummy removal packages [06:43] I guess now that Trusty's out (or, about to be) hopefully the install base on precise will drop [06:43] indeed [06:44] Though, will the package be removed on upgrade if someone who installed it upgrades? [06:45] i believe so. not 100% sure though [06:46] Also, it's probably a good thing that older versions (0.7 and earlier, I think) will *usually* fail to fully sync with the network [06:46] Though if I understand correctly the failure is non-deterministic [06:47] i thought the blockchain hardforked at some point for older versions? though I don't pay attention enough to know the details [06:49] rww: back in March last year [06:50] Basically, with version 0.8 we switched from BDB to leveldb for the blockchain index and UTXO database, IIRC [06:51] BDB had a bug, that triggered non-deterministically on blocks that changed large numbers of transactions (inputs and/or outputs) [06:52] Something to do with a limited number of locks or something [06:52] A block that triggered that problem would fail to be validated by 0.7 unless you created some file to reconfigure the maximum number of locks [06:53] Leveldb, used in 0.8, didn't have that problem [06:54] fun [06:54] yeah, for stuff like bitcoind, I have a hard time articulating a reason not to SRU to new major versions except for "it's against policy", which is unfortunate [06:55] And because a large portion of the hashpower switched to 0.8 fairly quickly, when one of them mined a block it created a situation where a substantial portion of miners and users created and built on a block which many others rejected [06:55] The very definition of a hardfork [06:58] So a new version (0.8.1) was rushed out that put a limit on something, set to expire 2 months later [06:59] There might have been a new 0.7.x release too that fixed the problem [07:00] And then the built-in alert mechanism was activated, linking everyone on affected versions to a page with an explanation [07:08] michagogo|cloud: didn't that bdb vs leveldb bug cause a splitchain? [07:14] ar: read what I said? [07:14] 6:46 UTC and on [07:15] (I think 6:46... unless I'm wrong and I'm not on +3 [07:15] ) [07:17] ah, yeah [07:28] hi all. I just installed the new 14.04 beta 2 on my macbook pro and am very impressed at how well things seem to be working. Am just wanting some advice on requestion a change to the installer. The gui installer still advertises ubuntu one which I believe is closing down? Think this advert should be removed from the future releases. [07:29] where would I log that so it is tracked and completed? would hate to have friends installing it and then trying to register for the service etc. [07:29] captin, beta2 has ended afaik [07:29] and the release candidate has already removed ubuntu1 afaik [07:29] great [07:29] thanks [07:29] So I think you are running an old ubuntu :P [07:29] lol [07:30] I did the apt-get update and it downloaded a ton [07:30] :) [07:30] Although its great to hear its working on your mac. They aren't exactly linux friendly from what I hear [07:30] even the magic mouse is connected etc. the mouse is just super sensitive even on the lowest sensitivity settings [07:31] See I don't know what a magic mouse is [07:31] You arent talking about that bar of soap that comes with macs, are you? [07:32] lol [07:32] the most expensive bar of soap I have ever bought... :) [07:32] :) [07:46] Ubuntu 14.04 will released at 4-17, but is no set time. How do I get it as soon as possible [07:46] and where can i get it ? [07:47] gshmu: The final release, or a pre-release beta version? [07:47] gshmu, Could just get the release candidate. [07:47] final release [07:47] gshmu: you wait until the release is announced, then download it from download.ubuntu.com [07:48] where can get announced??? [07:48] rww: I'm sorry to ask this [07:49] There is probably an rss feed, isn't there? [07:49] gshmu: It'll be rather obvious in here, #ubuntu, and #ubuntu-release-party, or you can subscribe to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce [07:49] thanks [07:49] #ubuntu-release-party +1 [07:50] well, it's low on people right now since release is still a while away, but yes :) [07:51] is the release day actually tomorrow? I thought it was going to be the twentiuth? [07:51] but... what happens to this channel once 14.04 is out? must we all leave?! :o [07:51] Aki-Thinkpad: it's the 17th. Ubuntu releases are always on Thursdays [07:52] ggreer: usually, it gets set invite-only and forwarded to #ubuntu until at least after the toolchain for ubuntu+2 comes out [07:52] oh [07:52] that's not nearly as cool as I hoped [07:52] hello, how can I change the maintainer of a package in launchpad? Should i register a bug against the launchpad package? [07:53] lanoxx: which package? [07:56] rww, tilda [07:56] rww, I am the current maintainer in debian [07:57] lanoxx: I believe that's under the purview of #ubuntu-motu, might want to ask there. [07:58] (#ubuntu+1 is more for end-user discussion and support, not so much archive issues) [08:11] cifs username=msusername,password=mspassword, is correct syntax for network share right? [08:14] This is a common annoyance bug, but I am unsure how to report it. [08:14] if you use autohide with unity [08:14] and then you right click somewhere or open a dialogue, and then go to unhide the dock [08:15] the dock will not let you select anything; it will just hide as soon as you take your mouse away from the screen [08:15] Someone must have reported this somewhere [08:25] Is CIFS Error -13 Authentication or Permission error I cant remember:? [09:41] Good morning. [09:55] Hi, yesterday I installed trusty on a SSD. I use the nvidia proprietary drivers and the boot is so fast I actually don't need the boot splash (1st world problems). Is plymouth-disabler the recommended package for this job? [09:58] also, completely unrelated question: fonts in gedit and QtCreator text area look "weird" like they're not getting system fonts' subpixel configuration...known issue? the rest of the programs are fine.. [09:58] (or hinting) [10:19] 'Morning folks [10:20] What ssd did u use? [10:27] no ssd here [10:33] is there an event viewer for ubuntu? [10:33] Elfuego, cheap kingston 60gb [10:58] What u trying to vidw [11:36] Hi [11:37] hi SorenHolm [11:37] Will release be tomorro? [11:37] yes [11:38] BluesKaj: Damn - at lease for the kubuntu part there are some anoying bugs that will just make people pull out their hairs during the easter and not make them happy about the new shiny ubuntu version. I guess the same is the case for the Unity-part. [11:39] updates... brought an amazon icon back on my unity bar. [11:39] that's awesome. or something like that. [11:39] thankfully my online search toggle was left untouched or else I'd be lighting some torches. hardy har. :P [11:41] SorenHolm, so far Kubuntu seems have stabilized on my desktop and laptop, and to which annoying bugs are you referring? [11:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1296425 [11:41] Launchpad bug 1296425 in alsa-plugins (Ubuntu) "pulseaudio is started twice - effectively making device management impossible." [High,Confirmed] [11:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1307717 [11:41] Launchpad bug 1307717 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "multiple problems with new chromium-browser" [Undecided,Incomplete] [11:42] BluesKaj: but mostly the pulseaudio issue. But I agree that things have stabilized and looks and feels very nice. [11:43] SorenHolm, I haven't encountered either of those. [11:44] BluesKaj: how many pulseaudio instances have you got running now? [11:45] I'm having a problem with my laptop on 14.04 xubuntu. The monitor is completely black after unlocking. Is this a known issue? [11:46] SorenHolm: Of that Cr bug, the font size in the _address line_ is huge? Do you have a screenshot? [11:46] SorenHolm, just one instance of pulseaudio, as far as I can tell [11:46] Meerkat: it is [11:47] Meerkat: does it seem to go back dim after you unlock? Does tapping a key wake the display? [11:47] brainwash, is it reported? do you have the bug ID? [11:48] bug 1259339 [11:48] bug 1259339 in xfce4-power-manager "Xfce4 Power Manager does not restore screen power" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1259339 [11:48] BluesKaj: hmmm ... well for the live-image under VirtualBox theres two. [11:48] which is linked to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs [11:48] qengho: http://sgh.dk/~sgh/chromium-font-size.png [11:49] oops SorenHolm , you're right, system monitor shows 2 pulseaudios [11:49] qengho: It's not HUGE. It's just larger than the previous version. and then in addition the screen is not updates correctly - and icedtea-plugin is not detected. [11:50] Hello [11:50] Using Ubuntu 14.04, I cannot login via SSH (public key) to a set of servers (to others I can). However, with the same computer, same network, and Ubuntu 13.10 (live CD), I can login successfully to these servers. [11:50] Anything changed with 14.04? The SSH client, firewalls, anything ? Any configuration perhaps that the default has changed for it and may cause these issues ? [11:50] normally i just purge pulse because it's not necessary with my HW. SorenHolm [11:51] bartzy: As which user do you try to log in via key auth? [11:51] bekks: my user on the server. [11:51] BluesKaj: That of cause takes care of it:) ... [11:52] * BluesKaj proceeds to purge pulseaudio [11:52] bartzy: did you setup ~/.ssh/authorized_keys correctly? [11:52] bekks: I tried with -vvvv and it seems like it tries my key in ~/.ssh/id_rsa. It gets stuck on debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_ECDH_REPLY, then comes back and fails. [11:53] SorenHolm: About icedtea, it is probably that Chromium upstream is dropping support for the old Netscape Plugin API. It will never come back. PPAPI, "Pepper", is the new way. [11:53] BluesKaj: I ran systemtap to find out that the "false" pulseaudio instance is started by aplay. Why that is run during login is a mystery to me. [11:53] bekks: Yes. With the same key and the same exact ssh command, I’m able to connect without issues with Ubuntu 13.10, on the same machine. [11:53] bekks: So it’s not a network issue or a misconfigured sshd or a misconfigured key. [11:53] bekks: It’s something with 14.04 that has changed and now it’s not working with my setup. [11:53] SorenHolm, did you file a bug ? [11:53] qengho: Well such a change is not somthing to do 3 days before release imho. [11:54] SorenHolm: In a security update a week after release is better? [11:54] bartzy: Doublecheck the MTU used on your 13.10/14.04 servers. [11:54] bekks: The 13.10/14.04 are not servers [11:54] BluesKaj: yes 1296425 [11:54] bekks: They are clients that try to connect to servers (which are debian wheezy). [11:54] SorenHolm, good [11:54] What should the MTU be ? [11:55] bartzy: What is the mtu...? :) [11:55] bekks: Of the client, of the server? of the router ? which one ?:p [11:55] bartzy: Of the clients trying to connect. [11:55] it’s 1500. [11:56] bekks: And it’s 1500 on 13.10 (which can connect) and on 14.04 (which can’t connect) [11:56] bartzy: So it's not an MTU issue then. [11:56] bekks: Seems that it’s not [11:56] bekks: But I can’t think of what can be different on 14.04 that creates that issue , that does not exist on a 13.10 client ? [11:56] bartzy: Maybe this post helps?: http://superuser.com/questions/699530/git-pull-does-nothing-git-push-just-hangs-debug1-expecting-ssh2-msg-kex-ecd [11:57] bekks: Give me a second to try that [11:58] bekks: That’s weird if that’s really the case, but I’ll try. [12:02] bekks: Nope, still same behavior :| [12:07] hi do nvidia optimus gpus now work correctly on 14.04? [12:12] cebor: Its worked perfectly for me using nvidia-prime [12:13] DJones in 13.10 i dont get the hdmi/display port working wich is wired to the nvidia [12:13] on a ThinkPad T430 [12:14] Must admit I've not tried an external screen, I was just happy enough that it worked on my laptop's main screen [12:20] cebor: I'm using a T430s with intel and a hdmi out [12:20] the port works fine, I suspect you just need to define it statically in the nvidia created xorg.conf [12:21] yes but then yo cant extend desktop over 2 monitors [12:21] i think my next thinkpad will be an intel only [12:23] I can extend it on the intel [12:23] casn you not do it using twinview on nvidia ? [12:23] twinview spanning mode ? [12:23] I have a T430 with nvidia, and using it with a dockingstation - dualscreen works great [12:23] it still gets an xorg identifier, so I don't see why on paper it shouldn't work [12:24] screens connected with DVI and displayport [12:44] bekks: I found the issue. [12:45] bekks: The SSH servers I’m unable to connect to are routed through a server in the office. The router of the office sends an ICMP redirect to the client that the host should be found in another router on that LAN [12:45] bekks: For some reason, 14.04 doesn’t store the ICMP redirect, and keeps asking for the default gateway , which keeps sending an ICMP redirect.... [13:13] Hi there. How final is the repository at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/ ? Will there be major changes until tomorrow? [13:16] major? probably not. Some changes, perhaps. Remember that ISO testing is being done, and any changes that are required for that will result in new uploads. [13:17] ok. thanks for the info. [13:44] tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow [13:54] will 14.04 be LTS? [13:54] terrasapien: Yes. [13:54] awesome! [14:08] Are 14.04 mirrors available right now or do they wait until after the release is "official"? [14:08] CountryfiedLinux, mirrors for what? [14:09] Technically.... yes. But they may not incorporate fixes that get commited due to changes from ISO testing. [14:09] Download mirrors Meerkat [14:09] so.. results may vary. === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:22] My gnome-shell is using 50+% of a core a load of the time, and it's making the desktop unpleasant. glxinfo http://pastie.org/9085153 . I have a gtx750ti, which only works with beta binary drivers; no noveau so I can't try that. Up to date and rebooted as of an hour ago. [14:24] hi all [14:24] got an apt-get crashes since this morning [14:24] resumed in : http://askubuntu.com/questions/448575/apt-get-crashes-with-relocation-error-libapt-pkg-so-4-12 [14:25] basically any apt-get command crashes [14:25] altaryBeastiful_, which versions of apt and libapt-pkg (?) running? [14:26] fwiw, i'm on 14.04, and apt is on 1.0.1ubuntu2 and libapt-pkg4.12:amd64 is on 1.0.1ubuntu2 [14:26] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/V9RhhMYY [14:26] angch: there you go [14:27] altaryBeastiful_, can you check /var/log/dpkg.log and see when was the last time you installed any apt related? [14:27] md5sum `which apt` [14:28] I have db5b5f7d75c414bfcea038c748176a3c [14:28] * Faux confirms a db5b5f7d75c414bfcea038c748176a3c. [14:29] db5b5f7d75c414bfcea038c748176a3c [14:29] * altaryBeastiful_ confirmed [14:29] angch: I got this : 2014-04-11 09:54:15 upgrade apt:amd64 0.9.15.4ubuntu5 1.0.1ubuntu2 [14:29] altaryBeastiful_: do you have gdb installed? [14:29] seems to be most recent from log [14:30] Or maybe strace? [14:30] altaryBeastiful_, dunno the symbol DDDD thing looks wierd. libc6 prolly like in #ubuntu [14:30] qengho: ho yeah, never tought that ^^ [14:30] ill get on it [14:30] the libc6 is one version of - so thats the reason most likely. [14:30] *off [14:30] okay im gonna manually update libc6 with .deb [14:31] get back to you after [14:35] altaryBeastiful_, check your libapt-pkg4.12:amd64 as well. [14:36] wierd, coz if libc6 is really broken, dpkg shouldn't be able to run properly. [14:37] angch: got [14:37] ii libapt-pkg4.12:amd64 1.0.1ubuntu2 amd64 package management runtime library [14:37] It isnt broken - it is just not the version the latest libapt is linked against. [14:37] update libc6 manually with no result [14:37] md5sum /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.4.12 ? [14:37] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/UmIzL0Xf [14:38] angch: 13f149b4ef2edfc3fc467d1afa721406 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.4.12 [14:38] 18dc7a032a43de12e9896d63ab3c5670 [14:38] ah...... [14:38] find, download and reinstall that one. [14:39] the official release date for 14.04 is the 17th of April? [14:39] okay [14:40] angch: that was it [14:41] yay! funny how it got installed in the first place. [14:41] What is the time that Trusty will be realeased? [14:41] i dunno how my libapt got corrupted [14:41] well I'll answer my question on askubuntu in case anybody else gets this [14:42] sydneyJDykstra, over on #ubuntu-mirrors: "I don't think it's been nailed down to a specific time yet, but I would expect sometime in the early (UK) afternoon." [14:42] thanks guys, learned some package knowledge today ;) [14:42] altaryBeastiful_: also: [14:42] for f in /var/lib/dpkg/info/{apt,libapt*}.md5sums; do cat $f |while read repohexdig checkingfile; do actually=$(md5sum /$checkingfile |cut -b -32); test "$repohexdig" == "$actually" || echo $f $checkfile; done; done [14:42] angch: Not midnight? [14:43] qengho: and thats for checking md5sums? [14:43] sydneyJDykstra, dunno, /me just relaying what i was told. even the .iso has not been updated since beta2. [14:43] altaryBeastiful_: change that "{apt,libapt*}" to * to check for other packages' problems. [14:43] I wrote a poor-man's "debsums". [14:43] qengho: nice, im gisting it [14:43] angch: It hasn't? I thought you could still get the daily build? [14:45] sydneyJDykstra, well, that's what we see from our mirror. tons of new .deb updates streaming in, but no new .iso [14:45] angch: According to this they keep updating it. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [14:46] angch: But they haven't updated it? Thats queer. [14:46] sydneyJDykstra, ah ok, we're not monitoring the daily build then. [14:46] different release channels. [14:46] another 24 hours or so for 14.04? [14:47] angch: You are not looking at the daily build? [14:47] sydneyJDykstra, nope. just the releases. (i upgraded from 12.04 anyway, seldom reinstall) [14:48] sydneyJDykstra: no updates means it's ready to go [14:49] angch: Did ubuntu 13.10 use noveau drivers? [14:49] once it's released, the updates will be pushed [14:49] sydneyJDykstra, i've no idea. i'm an LTS guy. [14:49] nouveau is used if necessary [14:51] angch: Well I am a LTS guy to,and I want to upgrade to ubuntu trusty tommorow,but the defult nouveau drivers don't work with my graphics card. 12.04 worked fine,but trusty I have to use the nomodeset option,and I didn't know if when you upgrade ubuntu is replaces the drivers. [14:53] nomodeset disable nouveau, and it will use nvidia ( better be there or else no gui) [14:54] come to think of it... don't even have nvidia cards. [14:54] But cannot it keep using the drivers I have already in 12.04? I just don't want to restart and have to fix that. [15:04] Acording to this it should not be to hard to fix if I need to fix it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 [15:13] Has anyone here had to use nomodeset? [15:15] I can't redis to autostart [15:15] I use the vagrant cloud-image [15:15] does 14.04 boot faster than 13.10? i have the feeling it does [15:15] the /etc/init.d/redis-server is there [15:16] update.rc says it everything is okay [15:16] but when i boot it just isn't running [15:16] what do? [15:17] utack: probobly. ;) [15:17] sydneyJDykstra, yeh [15:18] utack: I havent installed it yet,but from what I hear.... [15:18] i have a feeling. hard times to be determined [15:18] Can't tell the boot speed from 12.04 to 14.04. Feels the same. Fast. [15:19] (helps to have ssd) [15:19] i have one too. so if my feeling is about 2sec off, i was wrong [15:19] but i know the 13.10 time for my notebook and will check again after installing [15:19] how can i figure out why an init script is not executed? [15:20] seriously what in the hell is os prober doing. a blank ssd and it takes around 3 minutes and is still working... [15:22] utack: Ha Ha HA. ;) [15:22] hola [15:23] Quitifolen: Hello!! [15:23] hi sydneyJDykstra [15:23] Quitifolen: isn't my nick Sydney? or does it show up to you as sydneyJDykstra? [15:24] it is show so [15:25] Quitifolen: oh. ;) [15:25] you can not see your complete nick? [15:26] Quitifolen: no,just wondering. [15:27] oic [15:28] sydneyJDykstra, likely stuck. killed it and formatted the ssd with a fresh gpt table. took around 10sec after that [15:28] utack: Good. :) [15:51] has libc been updated lately? last i checked (2 days ago) ubuntu 14.04 would not run folding@home. [15:56] Hi, I'm having trouble compiling a kernel with make-kpkg in 14.04 beta2. I've tried posting in the forums, but I get no response. I'm wondering if someone can help me with this or point me to a better place to post my question. [16:03] try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile [16:04] what exactly is your problem? not promising anything but I might be of help [16:05] !kernel [16:05] The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [16:07] sakang, compiling a kernel for a dev OS is risky and isn't necessary as the bot info says. [16:08] BluesKaj: what are you talking about? [16:10] sakanI guess there's no point warning you with that attitude [16:10] sakang,^ [16:15] So if I downloaded beta2 in March and updated today can I just update again after release or will I have to download the iso after release? [16:16] Greylocks: just update and you will be on final when it is out [16:16] update everyday and you should be fine [16:16] trism: sakang Thank you [16:17] actually the iso will be outdated once the 'held' updates come out after release [16:18] I just remove an echo statement from /etc/init.d/redis-server and now it starts [16:19] what's the best way to report this issue? [16:21] kern: ubuntu-bug redis-server [16:27] Greylocks, make sure you dist-upgrade as well. [16:28] BluesKaj: Will do thanks. === KurtKraut is now known as kurtkraut === kurtkraut is now known as KurtKraut [17:02]