=== ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch === dobey_ is now known as dobey [00:40] darkxst: hey... just installed ubuntu gnome trusty alpha 2... looking nice. === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson === duflu_ is now known as duflu === Zachary_DuBois|A is now known as Zachary_DuBois === Zachary_DuBois is now known as Zachary_DuBois|A === Zachary_DuBois|A is now known as Zachary_DuBois === Zachary_DuBois is now known as Zachary_DuBois|A [07:28] desrt, thanks ;) [09:05] morning [09:12] Laney, hey, how are you? [09:12] good morning desktopers, happy post-ff friday! [09:12] hey seb128, I'm alright thanks [09:12] been rearranging the sitting room because rosie bought a piano which is coming today ... [09:13] such jenkins spam [09:13] how are you? [09:16] I'm good thanks, looking forward having (hopefully) a quiet friday, after the ff crazyness [09:16] oh, a piano, nice ;-) [09:17] not that I play or read music :P [09:17] except the final fantasty fanfare, I can do that one [09:17] haha [09:21] we didn't do that for the wedding, but were tempted :p [09:21] you geeks! [09:22] that would have been too obvious, hiding those 3 musics was better :) [09:26] It's nice to see so many FF-fans here ;) And I don't mean feature freeze! [09:26] heh === mpt_ is now known as mpt [09:26] apart from the 11 and 14 (mmorpg), I played them all but the 4, what I need to fix :) [09:27] seb128: just saw https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1282847 [09:27] Launchpad bug 1282847 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "desktop ui scale is huge even though the setting is set to a scale of 1" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:27] Laney, seems like NOTABUG [09:28] By 4 you mean the original 4th game? With Kain? I played that one on the emulator in my FF-madness youth [09:28] Laney, but yeah, for some reason the Unity scaling seems to not work [09:28] Trevinho_, bregma: ^ is that known? [09:29] his terminal looks a bit big to me, but yeah the ui should be matching anyway [09:29] well, look at nautilus [09:29] it's a bit big as well [09:29] harder to tell there, for me anyway [09:29] but the GTK scaling is only by int numbers [09:29] so the screen is HiDPI a x2 kicks in [09:29] which gives that result [09:30] 1.5 would be better but that's not possible for GTK [09:30] the issue in that report is that unity doesn't scale [09:30] actually that UI scale slider does nothing for me either [09:30] you can maybe add that the behaviour of Unity/GTK not respecting the same setting is confusing [09:30] right [09:31] hikiko, hey, do you know if the slider you added to to the display config is supposed to make unity change it's scaling? it seems to not work [09:34] seb128, it works with a new branch we have, we just didnt merge it because there are some other issues to be done first (like panels etc) let me give you my branch [09:34] hikiko, so it mean the feature missed ff (which was yesterday)? [09:35] https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.ui-scale-factor [09:36] yes, because when we integrated everything we found 1-2 things that need fixing [09:36] so we didn't do an MP [09:37] It's a bit strange that we got the slider which doesn't work [09:37] it works, unity doesn't work yet [09:37] the slider only updates the setting [09:39] that's not working from a user perspective really [09:39] as you can see it confused the guy who reported the bug I linked to earlier [09:42] :/ [09:42] you confused me as well [09:42] I though that the Unity in landing ask had HiDPI support [09:43] that's quite disappointing [09:43] Trevinho_, bregma: ^ [09:43] I know, but we couldn't merge before getting sure that panels and decorations look fine [09:43] you could have [09:44] default factor is 1 [09:44] and users playing with the slider and not having a perfect result is ok [09:44] it's easy to put back the slider to 1 [09:44] does something set the g-s-d scaling factor? [09:44] Laney, g-s-d itself :p [09:44] or, mine was 0 - does that mean autodetect? [09:44] yes [09:48] hikiko, anyway thanks for the work, those comments are rather directed to bregma than you ;-) [09:48] is there any syncing with the org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor value? [09:49] I don't think so [09:49] the issue is that the scaling-factor works only on int values [09:49] which is a poor granularity [09:50] that's what gives you nautilus being too big on that screenshot [09:50] it's either too small or too big [09:50] mmm [09:50] the unity factor has been precision [09:50] which works fine for unity and qml [09:50] been->better [09:50] but I guess it does nothing for gtk stuff? [09:51] no [09:51] so that's going to be weird in the other direction [09:51] well, it's going to be weird anyway, even if we couple both options [09:52] if you set 1.5 that's going to be work fine for unity/qml but what do we do for GTK? [09:52] set 1 or 2 ? [09:52] one or the other though [09:52] override the auto detection [09:53] yeah, that makes sense I guess [09:53] it's just going to be weird, going from 1.49 to 1.51 some stuff are going to scale nicely, and GTK is going to do a jump [09:53] got to work with what you're given [09:54] right [09:58] Laney, we should probably put https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-settings-daemon/commit/?id=260359bc74dda450dda6bff1c4a17dd126a61b18 back in u-s-d [09:59] e.g disable the autodetection [09:59] then teach the u-c-c slider to write the config to 1 or 2 [10:01] moin! [10:01] Sweetshark, hey, how are you? [10:01] you mean revert that? [10:01] Laney, yeah, put the code back I meant [10:01] hmm [10:01] well "code", "workaround" [10:02] you'd just replace the function with 'return 1' [10:02] right [10:02] well, the if block [10:03] does unity do its own autodetection? [10:04] seb128, I can do a MP right now I think or when bregma's day starts [10:04] Laney, I don't think so [10:05] hikiko, having a mp is the first step toward getting that landed, that would be nice, thanks ;-) [10:05] but there are some artifacts when you scale up the desktop and I think bschafer knows how to fix them [10:08] hikiko, well, other commits can be pushed later or other branches added to the landing [10:09] ok [10:10] seb128: 4.2.1 is done, Im happy. [10:10] ;) [10:10] Sweetshark, hey [10:10] Sweetshark, congrats ;-) [10:12] seb128, maybe wait for bregma and then start landing? [10:12] k [10:13] thanks :) [10:15] because my day is over because bregma's and I am not 100% sure that there weren't other blockers after I left [10:15] :s/because/before [10:29] xnox_: I feel like you asked me to look at something, but I forgot what & where you asked [10:29] halp [10:35] Laney: i think seb reviewed it already ;-) [10:35] and robert [10:35] suh-weet [10:35] what was it anyway? [10:37] ah, reviewing FFes, I've missed you [10:37] xnox_: I found it [10:37] why duplicate the code and not put the png in some shared package? [10:38] heelp [10:38] i lost printscreen [10:38] it doesn't take screenshot anymore [10:38] oh wait... now it did [10:38] nevermind :) [10:38] wait, mine doesn't work either [10:38] help ME! [10:38] Laney: the code is slightly different, a logical place to put pngs into base-files, but i don't think a vala or compiler dependency is wanted there. [10:39] ubuntu-artwork or something [10:39] seb128: re:vala dependency it depends on all gtk stack anyway, thus vala is just small icing on the cake. Doing it in python would have increased dependencies more... [10:40] I just looked at the FFe for the new lock screen [10:40] they want the logo there too [10:40] Laney: maybe when we go high-dpi and switch to svgs, i'll put it into ubuntu-artwork. [10:40] so that'll be three copies? [10:40] Laney: lock screen -> is that ubiquity-greeter package or something else? [10:40] similar [10:41] replicating the UI rather than reusing it [10:41] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/166229067/Screenshot%20from%202014-02-13%2023:40:36.png [10:42] Laney: no, svgs will just go into e.g. ubuntu-artwork and the rest just depend on it.... [10:42] but right now everybody just copies the code? [10:42] xnox_, yeah, fair enough [10:42] Laney: they should just be launching stand-alone unity-greeter in that mode for the lock-screen, instead of redoing it. [10:43] you can assume that was thought of [10:43] aka --test-mode, but --lock-mode [10:43] =) [10:43] ok. [10:44] Laney: the logo from unity-greeter, can be fetched from unity-greeter.... just load up /usr/share/unity-greeter/logo.png... [10:44] right [10:44] that's not the best dependency though [10:44] so at least I'd have a -data package or something [10:50] * xnox_ ponders if one new package metadata is bigger than the two pngs combined.... [10:51] Laney: i don't mind how it's packaged, as long as i see up-to-date digits where-ever i look =) [10:51] zI commented [10:52] I think the project is decent, just want to be careful to avoid duplication if we can [10:52] :-) [10:52] Laney: btw answered: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1282590/comments/3 [10:52] Launchpad bug 1282590 in Ubuntu "[FFe] standing freeze exception in trusty for Ubuntu Touch-specific packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:52] the schema one seems a bug to me and the desktop version shouldn't use the touch source [10:54] nope [10:54] they're shared between touch and desktop [10:54] the source is named -touch though :p [10:54] we just renamed the binary packages to have no -touch in them, the old ones are transitional packages now [10:55] source rename will happen at some point [10:55] ah [10:58] anyway, I guess adding a new key to a schema will be a feature coming from another package [11:00] indeed === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter === ochosi_ is now known as ochosi [11:13] aha [11:14] Laney: yeah, avoiding duplication would be good with these logos.... alas i have other near-miss FeatureFreeze things to attend to =) [11:15] (unity-settings-daemon:31101): media-keys-plugin-WARNING **: Failed to save a screenshot: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMetho [11:15] d: No such interface 'org.gnome.Shell.Screenshot' on object at path /org/gnome/Shell/Screenshot [11:16] Laney, weird, keys are working fine under unity here [11:16] oh, it's for screenshots [11:16] yeah [11:17] looking [11:18] Laney, g-s-d's fix_screenshots_on_unity.patch is missing [11:18] or not [11:18] hum [11:19] oh [11:19] if (!manager->priv->have_legacy_keygrabber) [11:19] gsd_screenshot_take (type); [11:19] Laney, we need to drop the if/else in do_screenshot_action() [11:19] just always use the else case [11:20] since the first one is g-s specific === lool- is now known as lool [11:21] Laney, if you come with a fix/mp, I'm happy to review/approve ;-) [11:21] building it to check [11:22] I wonder if there are other similar paths [11:24] looking through the have_legacy_keygrabber mentions I think not [11:30] yeah, that fix works === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [11:31] I don't know why it started working for mhr3 though [11:34] seb128: libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev used to be available on ppc64el from src:gnome-control-center-signon, now that has a hard-build-dep on qtdeclarative5-dev and thus libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev is not build =( [11:34] seb128: but libaccount-plugin-1.0-dev doesn't appear to be qtdeclarative thing... [11:35] xnox_, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center-signon/0.1.7~+14.04.20131126.2-0ubuntu1 [11:35] no it didn't [11:35] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/157678738/gnome-control-center-signon_0.1.7~%2B14.04.20131126.2-0ubuntu1.diff.gz [11:35] seb128: hm. something i'm looking at is lieying to me. [11:35] +Architecture: i386 amd64 armhf arm64 [11:35] seb128: sorry, ignore me then. [11:51] How is nautilus started in Unity nowadays? I would expect the session to require nautilus-classic, but that's not the case. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:03] mitya57, /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop [12:10] Laney, I just approved your mp, feel free to put a landing ask for it === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [12:12] mitya57, /etc/xdg/autostart/nautilus-autostart.desktop [12:12] sure, do you have anything else? [12:12] seb128: thanks [12:13] Laney, no, I'm working on u-c-c atm, I'm probably going to have a look to backport some g-s-d fixes but I doubt it's going to be today [12:13] okay [12:14] * mitya57 wonders why that doesn't work in bug 1224217 then [12:14] Launchpad bug 1224217 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "50_ubuntu_sessions.patch causes gnome-flashback sessions not to load" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1224217 [12:14] darkxst: ^ Any thoughts? [12:16] seb128: whom can I ask about https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/indicator-applet/ftbfs-allow-deprecations/+merge/206999 ? Maybe you can mark it as approved? [12:17] seb128: ok, so the icon I have in my unmaximized window is the one I'm getting when setting adwaita by default [12:17] I need to run strace again I guess [12:17] didrocks, yeah, just strace and grep for png [12:18] mitya57: I just approved it [12:21] seb128: thanks! [12:21] * mitya57-mobile is trying to make all flashback stuff less broken [12:22] seb128: so, nothing in ~ [12:23] the only icons opens that are similar (but hard to say if they are the same) are the dash ones [12:23] didrocks, it's puzzling, you say it doesn't happen to other users/guest? [12:23] btw, some designers have the same [12:23] yeah [12:23] and same for them, only in their session [12:23] compiz user config? [12:23] I tried to remove those [12:23] without any result [12:24] k, I guess it needs debugging from Trevinho_ then [12:24] seems like everybody is getting some sleep after ff rush though [12:24] which seems fair enough ;-) [12:26] yeah, I'm at loss right now, really don't understand… [12:26] tried to change the theme [12:26] the wm theme? [12:26] yeah [12:26] got a warning that a close.png wasn't found [12:26] so I guess it falls back to a default [12:27] but I don't see which/where it does find it… [12:27] and why it fetched it for unmaximized app [12:27] * didrocks is happy at least, to not be lonely in that case [12:29] where do you get that warning? [12:29] is close.png listed in your strace? [12:29] ok, not a svg either [12:29] yeah [12:29] the one in unity theme [12:30] (which is shown when apps are maximized for me) [12:30] the warning is in stderr [12:31] is the warning a gtk one? [12:32] no, for instance, it's: [12:32] WARN 2014-02-21 13:31:38 unity.decoration.style DecorationStyle.cpp:373 No Window button file for 'Adwaita/unity/close.png' [12:32] when I load the Adwaita theme [12:32] (and so, it falls back to that icon, even for maximized) [12:33] seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/tmp/capure_buttons.png [12:34] (btw, already saw some bugs with lim) [12:34] I don't have those warnings [12:34] (like?) [12:34] I don't have those by default [12:34] (seems to work mostly fine for me) [12:34] only if I use the Adwaita theme [12:34] like click on a menu [12:34] then use the keyboard [12:34] to navigate (left/right) [12:34] it's jumping to the gobal menu [12:35] wfm [12:35] thunderbird? [12:36] doesn't work in chromium for me as well [12:36] works there [12:36] hum, maybe there is more magic and I need to restart the session [12:37] well, I'm at loss with those icons (and I have no env variable that's in the code path) [12:37] let's see once Trevinho_ is around [12:37] yeah [12:42] /nick hikiko === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:54] seb128: whoops, I now have two network indicators [12:56] mdeslaur, uninstall indicator-network? [12:57] seb128: ubuntu-system-settings depends on indicator-network (>= 0.5.0+13.10.20130918) [12:57] mdeslaur, well, why do you have ubuntu-system-settings installed? [12:58] that's the phone's settings [12:58] seb128: I have no idea, something pulled it in :) [12:58] one sec, let me see [12:58] do you have unity8 installed? [12:58] seb128: yes [12:58] there was a brief sad when that got pulled in [12:58] yeah, see the ML ... [12:58] [ubuntu/trusty] webkitgtk 2.3.90-1ubuntu1 (Accepted) [12:58] WOOOOOOOOO [12:59] there was one day this week where u-c-c was outdated and the phone stack would be pulled in as an alternative [12:59] ogra_, what ml? [12:59] seb128, desktop ? [12:59] "call for testing unity-control-center ..." [12:59] right, that's different [12:59] that doesn't pull unity8 on your desktop installs [13:00] no, the guy had unity8 installed which pulled in powerd and libhybris [13:00] (kai mast) [13:01] seb128: so I can uninstall all the unity8* packages? [13:01] yes === gatox is now known as gatox_brb [13:03] seb128: ok, besides indicator-network, ubuntu-system-settings, unity8*, ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts, account-plugin-ubuntuone and unity-scope-click, anything else come to mind as being unneeded? [13:03] no, but autoremove should help there [13:04] oh, right, autoremove [13:04] thanks seb128 [13:04] yw! [13:08] seb128, Laney: happy day-after [13:08] glad you both survived :) [13:08] desrt, hey, happy friday! thanks -;) [13:09] seb128: hm. i see your nose got damaged in the battle yesterday [13:09] hey desrt [13:09] lol, indeed :p [13:09] guten freitag [13:09] ++ [13:09] ogra_: hope everything went nicely for you too :) [13:09] desrt, btw, I've been watching some curling on TV, it's actually somewhat fun to watch ;-) [13:10] YES [13:10] oh yes [13:10] curling is the shit... seriously [13:10] * Laney is timing lunch right today [13:10] desrt, my nemesis is still up ... MWC only starts on monday ;) [13:10] Laney, let's see if the rain manage to get you again! [13:10] 'MWC freeze' [13:10] seb128: it's a lunch of staying in and watching team gb :P [13:11] well, touch has a standing exception :) [13:11] Laney, +1 for that ;-) [13:11] although all curlers seem to be scottish [13:11] also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-olympics/26257895 [13:11] Laney: i guess all scottish curlers are probably scottish? [13:12] i assume that to be the case [13:12] https://imgflip.com/gif/724jp [13:12] hahahah. david attenborough narrates. that's so perfect. [13:12] curling is just like a nature flick [13:13] relaxing and majestic... until all hell breaks loose [13:16] Laney, yeah, the french commentators keep saying "the scottish team" following by "sorry, they are members of the scotisch team usually, but they play for gb during the olympics" ;-) [13:16] haha [13:16] we have the "national ice centre" here, maybe I could try it there [13:16] i think it might be a bit the same with curling everywhere [13:17] typically the team is one particular club from the country that has beaten all of the other clubs in the country [13:17] so they're usually all from the same city, in fact [13:18] i was following the scotties during the sprint -- that's the canadian women's.... each province had a team (plus a team for yukon+NWT) plus the winners from last year playing as "team canada" (who were from ontario) [13:18] ontario won, of course :) [13:18] hehe [13:19] (hmm.. "scotties"... maybe this scottish theory has something to it....) [13:20] "scottish theory"? [13:20] 08:11 < Laney> although all curlers seem to be scottish [13:20] oh [13:21] the stones are coming from Scotland at least [13:21] mick jagger would disagree [13:30] Sweetsha1k, hunspell-fr synced btw, you need to MIR it next I think === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === Pici` is now known as Pici [13:56] XklConfigItem now returns a list, instead of a bytearray in the name properly. [13:56] (property) [13:58] sorry for interrupting, but *thanks* for the integrated Unity menubars! [13:58] these make the app menus of several gnome apps feel 99% less awkward, and work much better with multi-window apps like gimp and empathy [13:58] denisw: thank Trevinho_ :) [13:59] Trevinho_, thanks! love your work :) [14:01] larsu_, and yours too, of course ;) will there be more apps converted from app menus to classic menus, or are these changes not allowed anymore after feature freeze? [14:01] denisw: yw ;) [14:01] I hope it will be still posssible till UI freeze [14:01] Laney: uh oh.... === Trevinho_ is now known as Trevinho [14:02] xnox_, is http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libxklavier/commit/?id=115a22dfff5ea59cdcf8a5a7f8e15ffd71164c1c your issue? [14:02] larsu_: about that, is there something planned for nautilus? :) [14:02] Trevinho, larsu is working on it [14:02] seb128: yes, that's nice. i want that in trusty. [14:03] seb128: let me test-build it and check that it helps. [14:03] i guess nautilus is pretty difficult, having looked at the code a few days ago [14:03] denisw: I'll try to get an exception [14:04] xnox_, k, let me know (and blame pitti for the g-i changes ;-) [14:05] larsu_, cool :) any way to help on this? [14:06] (the coding, i mean) [14:06] oh, a larsu_ [14:06] larsu_, good morning ;-) [14:06] larsu_, happy friday! [14:06] hey :) [14:06] you too! [14:07] denisw: thanks! I'm afraid not, it's just some tedious gtkaction -> gaction porting. I'd be happy about tester, though :) === larsu_ is now known as larsu [14:08] Trevinho, bregma: do you plan to do a landing today to enable hidpi? [14:08] (3nd end) Canada 2, GB 1 [14:08] seb128: I still don't have a clue how I couldend up with the wrong u-c-c branch. I'm rebasing my patches right now. [14:09] desrt: morning :) [14:09] morning :) [14:09] desrt, trolling Laney? ;-) [14:09] seb128, working on it [14:09] seb128: laney's TV is trolling him :) [14:09] seb128: i wonder if grouper tablets are good to test unity7 desktop, based on old images =) [14:09] larsu, ping me when you need one ;) i'm going to hang around here as regularly as i can in the future [14:09] larsu, yeah, that's a mystery to me as well... [14:09] denisw: awesome [14:09] seb128: bzr sucks! [14:09] lol [14:09] * larsu hides [14:09] oh, it's friday [14:09] :p [14:09] (larsu says) git 1, bzr 0 [14:09] I would have said this on any other day as well :P [14:10] desrt: what is this, 2010? [14:10] the count is quite different now [14:10] seb128: no idea, I've not checked the work on it yet :) [14:10] (with negative points for bzr) [14:10] Trevinho, I'm pretty disappointed that the landing from yesterday didn't actually enable the feature, you guys need a ffe now [14:10] bregma, ^ btw, need a ffe now [14:11] seb128: really? The feature is there, it's only missing the config... [14:11] it was in the news, so it has to get an exception now! [14:11] neat plan btw ;) [14:11] Trevinho, no, the feature is not there [14:11] Trevinho, if it's not active it's not tested, so it's not there [14:11] is it on by default? [14:11] no [14:11] it's not possible to enable either [14:11] hm [14:11] it needs code patch to be enabled [14:11] weird [14:12] larsu, you can go to the display capplet and try to move the slider and see how nothings happens :p === gatox_brb is now known as gatox [14:13]