[00:30] full disk encryption passed on amd64. I had some issues with shutdown, but nothing critical for alpha1 [00:31] * yofel is off to bed [00:32] yofel: Thanks. [00:32] ScottK: I wish I knew more about how to test I am running 13.04 64 bit "AMD Turion 64 X2". The only issue I have is Plasma desktop keeps crashing. [00:33] more info here http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?61269-Kubuntu-%2813-04%29-%E2%80%9CPlasma-Desktop%E2%80%9D-keeps-crashing [00:50] That backtrace is worth filing as a bug in bugs.kde.org. [01:17] ScottK: Thanks Scott I sent it in. [08:16] Quintasan_: pong [08:16] ScottK: I already talked to upstream, they told me they could do a dirty port of qtgstreamer [08:17] gkiagia on #kde-telepathy has more info [08:31] shadeslayer: Could you work out getting something going? Stuff is blocked from migrating from proposed due to our packages not being ported. [08:38] anyone know whats causing bug 1066223 [08:38] Launchpad bug 1066223 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kde ubiquity detects Sydney timezone but says Adelaide" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066223 [08:45] the amd64 kubuntu alpha image freezes when you hit next with install mp3 selected [08:45] can someone confirm? [08:54] erk [08:55] shadeslayer, why you go "erk" ? [08:55] Noskcaj: by hang do you mean it shows the spinning icon [08:56] and erk because it's blocking stuff [08:56] it = gst [08:56] shadeslayer, yes, and understandable [08:56] ScottK: I'll email George this evening [08:58] Noskcaj: sec [08:58] Noskcaj: something like bug 1085991 [08:58] Launchpad bug 1085991 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity stuck at "Preparing to install Kubuntu"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1085991 [08:59] shadeslayer, sounds similar but it only happens when mp3 is selected [08:59] oh [08:59] iirc I had mp3 stuff ticked as well [09:00] Noskcaj: could you run apport-collect 1085991 when trying to install and it hangs? ( run it after it hangs ) [09:00] what do you mean? [09:00] xnox: ^ possibly similar bug [09:01] Noskcaj: it'll attach logs to the bug report [09:01] so that we can figure out what's wrong [09:01] ok, i will after this testcase(kubuntu amd64 manual) [09:01] cool [09:04] i may have to wait till tomorrow as i have to be finished by 8:30pm AEDST (+11utc) [09:05] shadeslayer, so do i let it get to the "freeze" or run apport-collect before then [09:05] and does this have to be from the live desktop? [09:11] shadeslayer, are you sure that is the same bug? [09:11] Noskcaj: almost, seems to exhibit the same symptoms [09:12] ok, i am at the freeze, what do i do? [09:12] press alt+F1 [09:12] erm [09:12] alt+F2 [09:12] type konsole [09:12] then run apport-collect 1085991 [09:13] nothing happens. do i need to be in a live desktop? [09:13] didn't konsole open? [09:13] alt+f2 didn't [09:13] oh [09:13] that's weird [09:13] Noskcaj: are you connected to the network? [09:13] s/the/a [09:13] yeah, i'm in Vbox though [09:13] ah no issue [09:14] can you switch to a tty? ( Ctrl + Alt + F1 ) [09:14] then run apport-collect 1085991 [09:14] one sec, i was about to change to the live desktop [09:15] okay [09:19] shadeslayer, acidently made that happen on my own pc and had to restart [09:19] haha :D [09:20] Noskcaj: pro tip, kill an application using ctrl+alt+esc and click on offending app [09:20] only kills app, no need to restart [09:21] if pnly i knew sooner [09:21] okay, does anyone know where the 12.10 comes from in ubiquity? [09:22] shadeslayer: .disk_info file?! [09:22] hmmm [09:22] that's odd then [09:22] i will ask that question in -quality incase someone knows more [09:23] shadeslayer: well it's .disk/info [09:23] xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+bug/1086034 [09:23] Launchpad bug 1086034 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity slideshows still refer to 12.10" [Medium,New] [09:24] oh that's the *slideshow* [09:24] nvm [09:28] shadeslayer: slideshows are static & need reuploading. [09:28] right [09:29] shadeslayer, it happend again, i had to restart [09:29] oh hmm [09:29] i am using xubuntu if that changes anything [09:29] don't think so [09:32] i have to go, will be back on at 6:00am AEDST [11:18] shadeslayer: kio-mtp can't copy directories now [11:18] it can't handle them here T_T === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:18] heh [11:19] I'm just the packager, and for some reason it doesn't want to work with png [11:19] *png files [11:19] file a bug ? :P [11:19] I nominate you as the link between upstream and us [11:19] you do it :P [11:19] durrr [11:20] Well, I have to go to buy a present for my friend, if you don't file it now then I will do it later anyways [11:20] proofreaders: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Alpha2/Kubuntu [11:21] Quintasan: I'll file it later [11:21] also uploaded a quantal package in experimental [11:21] Riddell: No glaring mistakes there [11:21] Riddell: Will read it in detail is bus [11:23] * smartboyhw goes in to the ISO tracker to report a success testcase for Kubuntu Alpha 1 [11:25] Quintasan: feel free to think of things to add/improve too [11:25] smartboyhw: great thanks [11:36] shadeslayer, 4.10 beta2 for quantal? [11:36] * shadeslayer looks at Riddell [11:36] needs done for raring first [11:36] then yes, I'd like to backport it [11:37] but I'm on alpha 1 this morning [11:39] what needs doing for Beta 2? [11:40] there are a few missing packages at least === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:40] * shadeslayer looks [11:41] shadeslayer: yofel pointed out gwenview, cantor, dragon and perlkde as missing so I think they'll have patched that need refreshed/removed [11:42] aha [11:42] and of course all the yellow and red here http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html [11:42] yeah was looking at that [11:46] Riddell: wrong # - I'll take care of the crash fix [11:47] Riddell, you want me to run the "Non-English Live session & Installation; Full Network Support" thing? [11:47] That testcase [11:47] smartboyhw: that would be cool [12:07] Ha the string not translated in the slideshow for Chinese (Traditional) is actually the sentence "Thank you for choosing Kubuntu 12.10" LOL. [12:09] Hiyas all [12:10] our images are oversized [12:10] based on a round SI GB limit of 1000000000 bytes [12:11] can I bump it up to a binary GiB limit of 1 073 741 824 bytes? [12:22] dat unit [12:23] Riddell: you mean from 8.881784197e-7 peta bytes to 9.53674316406e-7 peta bytes? [12:25] um [12:25] hehehe [12:25] your mind has a weird way of counting, what a geek [12:35] guys the reason that other distros like OpenSuse have beta version of KDE available as soon as they show up is because of bigger community/developers working on it or because they don't preparing it for upcoming releases? [12:40] not sure, but I've never seen them contributing armhf fixes and what not [12:40] so maybe they just target x86* ? [12:41] Riddell, Non-English testcase for amd64 completed, so I think you can mark the amd64 ISO ready now [12:41] mmm .. when did we upload beta 2 this time? [12:41] soee: I'm working on getting b2 out today [12:41] as long as someone tests it on raring [12:42] * smartboyhw doesn't understand why VirtualBox shows "Aborted" when he shuts down Kubuntu in the normal way [12:42] later at home i can test it with VB [12:43] cool [12:43] on my machine at home i have quantal so i can test quantal also [12:43] x64 [12:43] well [12:43] Riddell: I'd like to upload quantal today after being done with raring [12:44] * shadeslayer wonders if the automation script works with remote signatures and what not [12:47] lolwat [12:47] gwenview built just fine here [12:49] so very odd [12:50] * smartboyhw wonders will anyone do the amd64+mac images [12:50] smartboyhw: ? [12:50] I tested them last night [12:51] shadeslayer, well aren't it supposed to have all the testcases completed? [12:51] uh, usually that doesn't happen :) [12:51] * smartboyhw thought that is standard procedure (at least for Ubuntu Desktop) [12:51] it probably is, but we don't have as many resources as them [12:52] ooh [12:52] alright [12:52] so if someone donates a spare macbook pro to me, I could probably do the testing [12:52] but don't want to do it on my work machine [12:54] shadeslayer, you don't necessary need to have a MacBook PRO right?;P Get a Macbook Air, or even a Mac mini ... [12:54] sure [12:54] but I ain't buying more apple hardware [12:54] I'm sick of this MBP as it is [12:57] Quintasan: where are my mallit packages?!! [12:59] agateau: your fix doesn't build on i386 :( [12:59] oh fun [12:59] shadeslayer: really? :( do you have a build log? [12:59] libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h [13:00] agateau: are you in the kubuntu-ninjas team? [13:00] agateau: https://i125024006.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/125024006/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.gwenview_4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=0b0efc87cb05a0aa521ffdf4da075708 [13:00] if not : http://paste.kde.org/620870/ [13:00] shadeslayer: I guess I am not: I get a "No Such Resource" msg [13:01] shadeslayer: thanks [13:01] you're using chrom{e.ium} [13:01] which has a weird bug [13:02] shadeslayer: no [13:02] oh .. which browser? [13:02] shadeslayer: link opened in konqueror [13:02] I see ... [13:02] guess konqueror has the same bug [13:03] hmm ... jconfig is there : /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/jconfig.h [13:04] shadeslayer: and what is ${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE} on i386? [13:04] sec [13:04] obj-i686-linux-gnu/CMakeFiles/2.8.10.1/CMakeCXXCompiler.cmake: set(CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE "i386-linux-gnu") [13:05] so it should work [13:05] or I do not interpret find_file doc correctly [13:07] shadeslayer: where do you get "libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h" ? [13:07] that is /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/jconfig.h here [13:07] er, nvm [13:07] root@server:~/gwenview-4.9.90# dpkg -S jpeglib.h [13:07] libjpeg-turbo8-dev:i386: /usr/include/jpeglib.h [13:07] :) [13:07] I need more coffee [13:07] yeah, jpeglib.h is there, jconfig.h isn#t [13:08] aye [13:09] can you spot what is wrong in this then: find_file(JCONFIG_H jconfig.h PATHS "${JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR}" PATH_SUFFIXES "${CMAKE_LIBRARY_ARCHITECTURE}")? [13:09] * yofel looks up what PATH_SUFFIXES does [13:10] hm... that should work o.O [13:12] especially since it works on amd64 (just checked) [13:13] * agateau is puzzled [13:14] eh wat [13:14] # libjpeg-turbo keeps JPEG_LIB_VERSION in jconfig.h, not jpeglib.h :/ [13:14] find_file(JCONFIG_H jconfig.h [13:14] PATHS "${JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR}" [13:14] PATH_SUFFIXES "x86_64-linux-gnu" [13:14] ) [13:14] shadeslayer: ah, you don't have the very latest code [13:14] but ... I thought your released it with 4.9.90? [13:14] no, committed that shortly after the tag iirc [13:14] * agateau checks [13:14] ahhh okay [13:15] makes sense [13:15] seems like beta are not tagged :( [13:15] weird [13:16] heh [13:16] anywho, compiling with https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdegraphics/gwenview/repository/revisions/67726648531755a4dab131a1926dd17cc8f969d2/diff [13:17] lets see [13:17] There is a v4.9.80 tag, but no v4.9.90 [13:17] someone forgtot to push tags then [13:17] \o/ [13:18] where is tsdgeos when one needs him :) [13:23] Riddell: I assume we're not releasing amd64+mac and it should be removed from the tracker? [13:23] so I tested it for nothing? [13:24] :( [13:24] shadeslayer, heh I am correct for a bit now:P [13:24] smartboyhw: indeed :) [13:25] okay, so only perlkde left [13:25] shadeslayer: There's no install testing of the current image. [13:26] I install tested the ISO before you respun it :P [13:26] Riddell: ^^^ ? [13:26] * ScottK passess the buck. [13:26] shadeslayer, LOL [13:27] ;) [13:35] all missing packages uploaded [13:36] * shadeslayer looks at status page [13:36] ScottK: it could go either way really [13:37] mm live only tested [13:37] I think it needs at least one install [13:42] Riddell: I installed it a couple of days ago [13:42] so unless something changed dramatically, it was fine [13:42] your discretion really [13:49] Riddell: shadeslayer has a fair point. There's no evidence from the other images of issues due to the respinn. [13:49] s/respinn/respin/ [13:49] ScottK meant: "Riddell: shadeslayer has a fair point. There's no evidence from the other images of issues due to the respin." [13:52] "I've been basically running Kubuntu 12.04 for the last several months and am finding it without a doubt one of the best distros I've ever run" I like my google "Kubuntu" alert it makes me smile [13:52] :D [13:53] Riddell: like I said before, we should make an announcement for business card designs on G+ [13:53] shadeslayer: go ahead [13:55] Riddell: can't access G+ [13:55] it says it's down [13:55] you broke google! [13:56] do you know how much trouble you'll get in for doing that? [13:56] LOL [13:56] yay [13:56] shadeslayer, stop saying yay [13:57] That is clearly not yay [13:57] okay :( [13:57] :) [14:02] Riddell: "The Kubuntu team is looking for awesome buisness card designs! Show us your designs and it might become the official buisness card for the Kubuntu team !" [14:02] sound good enough? [14:02] *business [14:03] shadeslayer, business card ? [14:03] yus [14:03] ok what's the pay :) ? [14:03] lol [14:04] shadeslayer, what it shoudl contain ? [14:04] maybe Riddell has a spare Kubuntu polo tee left over he can giveaway for the design that wins? [14:05] I'm all out === valorie_ is now known as valorie [14:06] heh, they don't make them large enough for guys like me, 3XLT would be minimum [14:06] but I did give two to some people at copenhagen that i've not got back [14:06] hint.. Quintasan [14:07] however I did find one from the cranky geeks that fit === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw === shadeslayer_ is now known as Guest80560 === Guest80560 is now known as shadeslayer_ === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ [14:18] mmm [14:23] oh hah [14:24] Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/lIeKw.png [14:24] those look neat tbh [14:25] shadeslayer: well they've release version specific [14:25] and don't have space for contact details [14:25] true [14:25] ::qt-bugs:: [1087259] update to 4.8.4 @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1087259 (by André Stein) [14:25] but hey, we're getting replies :P [14:25] where? [14:25] G+ [14:26] nice [14:29] shadeslayer, ill ask friend of mine to prepare one project also :) [14:30] cool! [14:31] Quintasan: I'm doing your work now :P [14:31] Riddell: could you take over marble, I've gtg [14:32] shadeslayer: ok [14:32] shadeslayer, we are talking about kubuntu project only ? [14:36] soee: yes [14:37] though if they want, they could do it for the other community projects as well [14:37] where can i find link for kubuntu logo ? [14:39] KubuntuArtwork on wiki [14:43] ok, thank you Riddell [14:49] Riddell: Well I'll be sending one of mine to Darkwing [14:49] Quintasan: oh cool [14:49] shadeslayer: did you get two at copenhagen? [14:49] I'm sure someone else got two [14:55] Riddell: yes, but I returned mine [14:56] remember when I came at night to your room to return one of them? [14:56] mm right [14:56] I guess we're all out then [14:58] Riddell: I did some edits on our announcement on the wiki. Please make check you're OK with them. [14:58] Riddell: "It could be Corel CDR too, or only SVG and PDF?" [14:59] The global menu bug turned out to be a problem in quantal too and the 12.10 in the slideshow is trivium. So I removed them. [14:59] I guess SVG only [14:59] * ScottK has more than one. [14:59] * smartboyhw wonders will anybody test the amd64+mac image, the only one not ready:P [14:59] smartboyhw: We aren't going to release it. [14:59] ScottK, yo:D [14:59] oh marble joins the ranks of projects that don't keep ABI stability http://paste.kde.org/620954/ [15:01] mmm [15:01] ScottK: lovely [15:04] ok, where was I .. [15:04] shadeslayer: gtg? [15:04] ah yes [15:04] nah, back from what I had to do [15:05] ah yes, loooking at status page [15:06] Riddell: Do you have the kubuntu.org announement queued up? [15:07] libkdcraw has new symbols? [15:07] ScottK: I don't but I can put up a sentence or two now [15:07] Great. [15:08] shadeslayer: They broke API from 4.9 -> 4.10. [15:08] mmm [15:09] Which is why Kamoso and Kphotoalbum are currently broken. [15:11] https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/13.04-alpha1 for those who can see it [15:11] it just says "Alpha 1 of our 13.04 development version is available for download and testing. It comes with the latest testing release of KDE's Plasma desktop and applications. [15:11] " [15:12] fun [15:13] No photos with kayaks and stickers on your head? [15:14] ach I've not done that for years [15:14] but I would like to do a blog post today with more photos from copenhagen [15:16] * Riddell goes for a walk back shortly [15:19] * ScottK is ready to publish on kubuntu.org [15:21] ScottK: any ideas what we decided wrt ffmpeg stuff and nepomuk? [15:21] because I can't find a lib to satisfy that depends [15:22] I think we decided to disable it until we were sure it only needed ffmpeg stuff we are allowed to ship on an image. [15:22] hmm [15:23] looking at neon, check if you can ship libavutil51, libavformat53 and libavcodec53 [15:24] okay, all 3 are in main [15:25] so I guess they're OK to ship on the ISO? [15:25] shadeslayer: No. [15:25] oh? [15:25] Let me check. [15:25] You have to look in the seeds [15:25] oh, if they're blacklisted or not? [15:26] * vHanda is over here if you have any questions [15:26] "libavcodec cannot be shipped on CDs (c.f. Ubuntu technical board resolution 2007-01-02)." [15:26] So avutils and avformat are OK. [15:27] ah herp derp [15:27] Thanks vHanda. We're (I think) mostly wrapped up in Ubuntu policy re patents and what we're allowed to ship or not on an image. [15:27] You can ask the user to install it later and dlopen it. That's allowed. [15:28] ah [15:30] shadeslayer: what did I what? [15:30] huh? [15:30] "Rohan: ping. what did you install for ffmpeg headers?" [15:30] ah nvm [15:30] found the right set of dev headers [15:30] okay [15:30] I've removed the libavcode-dev [15:31] and it still says it found the ffmpeg stuff, so just need to check what it'll depend on [15:31] *I've removed the libavcodec-dev build dep [15:33] oh drat, something still pulls it in [15:34] ScottK: can we have the ffmpeg extractor libs in a separate package? [15:34] and then ask the user to install that [15:34] vHanda: ^ [15:35] I ask the user? [15:35] http://paste.kde.org/621014/ < these 2 in a separate file [15:35] you mean separate package [15:35] shadeslayer: Look at what we do for Konqueror and flash. IIRC it's a distro patch. [15:35] that works :) [15:36] vHanda: will there be any adverse affect if we compile with ffmpeg stuff and split out those libs and ask the user to install them through some sort of dialog? [15:36] nope [15:36] ScottK: looking [15:36] okay [15:39] ScottK: the DLRestrictions patch? [15:39] Sounds vaguely right. [15:39] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs/view/head:/debian/patches/add_dlrestrictions_support.diff [15:39] JontheEchidna would know about it, IIRC. [15:39] okay [15:43] I'm still contemplating if we can just ship another package and prompt the user to install that [15:45] I'd say just disable it for now and finish 4.9.90. [15:45] well it's disabled ;) [15:46] Excellent. [15:46] Can we start uploading 4.9.90 now? [15:46] uhhh [15:46] what about libkdcraw and libkdegames? [15:46] and marble [15:47] those 3 are the only things left afaictl [15:47] Right, but it takes a while to get stuff built. [15:48] and kmahjongg is still ftbfs [15:48] May as well upload libs and then meta. [15:48] I'm putting a block in place so none of it will migrate from raring-proposed before we are ready. [15:48] okay [15:48] sounds good [15:48] kmahjongg is proving fiddly [15:49] * shadeslayer is having a look at that [15:49] Riddell: How about we start on uploading 4.9.90 then. [15:51] ScottK: yeah can do, although I think I'll keep going through and fixing the issues in ninjas [15:51] I was mostly thinking about getting kde4libs built on all archs. [15:51] ehwat [15:51] Riddell: it builds fine here [15:51] weird [15:52] shadeslayer: libkmahjongglib4 installs? [15:53] afaictl yes [15:53] Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/621026 [15:53] ok im at home if you want me something to test just shoot [15:55] Riddell: I've hit rebuild on i386, lets see [15:55] maybe it was a temporary issue [15:55] libkmahjongglib4 : Depends: kdegames-mahjongg-data (= 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa1) but 4:4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.04~ppa2 is to be installed [15:56] shadeslayer: no I guess I missed something there [15:56] possibly [16:02] Riddell: didja find the issue? [16:03] you want to dep on kmahjongg-data instead of kdegames-kmahjongg-data [16:07] but then what's kdegames-kmahjongg-data [16:07] hmm === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Raring Alpha 1 Released | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-ppa-build-status.html [16:10] Can someone seed Kubuntu torrents? [16:10] sure [16:11] okay, my torrent manager went down I think :P [16:14] LOL [16:14] bye [16:20] okay, it's up, should work [16:21] ScottK: I assumed there are seeds for every release [16:21]