=== Guest96675 is now known as skynet-2000 [01:28] I added another user as admin, but he hasnt been added into the sudoers group [01:32] ... this is bugging me [01:33] I can run things as root with my alternate admin account, say for installing software [01:33] but when it comes to running the amdcatalyst control center admin, it gives me an error telling me, " [01:33] The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator. === skynet-2000 is now known as skynet === skynet is now known as Guest39102 === chris_ is now known as Guest73851 === deegee__ is now known as drussell [09:47] Morning lads [09:53] hi all [09:54] I grabbed the latest iso image of 12.10 amd64 [09:54] I saw that the kernel version is still 3.2. Does it possible? [09:55] Aloha alo21 [09:56] MrChrisDruif: aloha [09:56] Does it possible? [09:56] MrChrisDruif: I noticed that during live session i am running on kernel 1.2 [09:57] but according to official documentation, Ubuntu should ave 3.4 [09:57] uname -r > 3.4.0-5-generic [09:57] MrChrisDruif: if I tun uname -a [09:57] That's with me at least on my primary machine [09:58] MrChrisDruif: i got: Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 10 20:39:51 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [09:58] uname -a returns everything, uname -r only the kernel version [09:58] Where did you grab that iso? [09:59] I assume here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/quantal/alpha-1/ ? [09:59] MrChrisDruif: I downloaded it via zsync: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/quantal-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync [10:00] MrChrisDruif: I think the link is ok [10:02] Anyway, long story short: it should be 3.4.0-5 and it is on my machine. Maybe someone else with more knowledge about the daily builds could enlighten you more/better why it isn't with you [10:03] MrChrisDruif: thanks [10:04] No prob [10:04] Does any else have issues with booting taking forever? [10:09] I've seem to have tracked down the issue and a solution, however I don't know at which package I should file a bug at. [10:11] The problem consists out of the following: network-manager apparently has some interfaces file at /etc/network/interfaces and it wants to wait for both the "# The loopback network interface" and the "# The primary network interface" [10:18] Note that the contents of /etc/network/interfaces might have changes since the Asker posted it [10:31] So would it be possible to post a bug against that single file or should I post a bug against network-manager and mention that file specifically? [10:33] hello. how can I get somekind of debug report or some way to log for errors for unity? [10:54] Hi all [10:58] Aloha BluesKaj ^_^ [10:58] Howdy MrChrisDruif [10:58] How's it going? [10:59] not bad thanks, and you ? [10:59] Pretty good, solved to LLLLOOONNNGGG boot issue [11:00] It was related to network-manager...as usual [11:00] ok good , and ? [11:00] ok [11:01] since I'm not on wifi , i don't bother with NM, /etc/network/interfaces does the job [11:02] The /etc/network/interfaces file wanted to wait for a dynamic address for wlan0 (my primary network interface) [11:02] The solution and a pretty decent reasoning behind it is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63456/waiting-for-network-configuration-adding-3-to-5-minutes-to-boot-time [11:05] Well, it didn't matter if I connected a wire or not [11:05] It is also related to upstart [11:06] MrChrisDruif, so did you decide on a static IP in interfaces ? [11:07] No, I commented out the primary interface section [11:09] So I want to file a bug against that file, but I should probably be filing it against network-manager because I think it belongs to that package [11:16] network manager writes to interfaces and resolv.conf if it's left to default settings (dynamic) [11:19] Then network-manager should be to blame (it was after an update to network-manager (among a lot of other packages) that it started happening again) [11:20] Only addresses are dynamic with me, but that is similar to fully dynamic [11:20] dunno what that means [11:20] It means I've got different dns-servers listed ;-) [11:21] not on a wan [11:21] internet == wan [11:21] in hosts.allow [11:21] ? [11:21] I used network-manager to set them up [11:23] You go to Network Settings > required interface > options > IPv4 settings [11:25] MrChrisDruif, but this is strictly wifi , correct ? [11:25] How do you mean? Strictly wifi? I had the same long boot with a cable [11:26] ok [11:29] I used a belkin wifi adapter for a while on my den pc , which now has a dead mobo, but it was aconstant struggle to keep it working with the right drivers ...finally ran an ethernet cable , which solved the problem [11:30] a no more NM required [11:31] and [11:38] Aha, instead of eliminating issues by going around them (not needing them any more) I prefer to get it fixed properly. That way anyone can use NM without issues. [11:38] It in the end that makes it easier for everyone [11:47] my philosophy is , the fewer apps required , the better :) [11:50] Are you running a gui? ;-) [11:51] network gui? no [11:52] Are you running a gui at all? (DE) [11:53] yes of course , not a cli purist , ...not by a long shot :) [11:53] KDE [11:55] Ghehe ^_^ just checking. Because GUI is just a bunch of "unnecessary" applications just to "please the eye", any thing you can do with a GUI can also be done with CLI [and probably faster too ;-) ] [11:55] Anyhow, it's on a laptop and to manually change my network settings for each location is a no-go! ;-) [11:57] And I detest that I've got to use a power-cord already..I don't want an additional wire sticking you... [you could say my philosophy is, the fewer wires required, the better ;-)] [12:10] MrChrisDruif, yeah , laptops need quite a few more networking options ...wonder when my daughter will return my old acer [12:10] Ghehe ^_^ [12:13] strange that the terminal prompt opens at ~/Documents [12:14] I have cd to ~/ , for a normal prompt [12:17] Hmm, awkward indeed === wootehfoot is now known as matrixa1 === apw is now known as apw_ === apw_ is now known as cafetiere === samsul is now known as kacung === cafetiere is now known as apw_ === apw_ is now known as cafetiere === cafetiere is now known as apw === MrChrisDruif is now known as ChrisDruif === ChrisDruif is now known as BrokenThumb === BrokenThumb is now known as MrChrisDruif === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Guest39102 is now known as skynet-2000 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:34] I just updated my kernel to 3.4 and now my firewall wont stay enabled, why is that? [19:42] howdy folks [19:43] where do i get support for 12.04 please [19:43] this thing had nothing but bugs and crashes for me [19:44] Dacs: 12.04 support in #ubuntu [19:45] there's a secret "do not crash" button [19:45] good luck with that :) [19:46] it's so well-hidden nobody has found it yet [19:46] why does upgrading my kernel kill my firewall? [19:47] matrixa1, is it microsoft windows [19:47] coz i am thinking to go back to that [20:18] Hi, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop : Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins but it is not going to be installed [20:18] is this well known? [20:25] can someone confirm this issue? [20:45] edgy: yep, it looks like libkcddb has been updated but not kdemultimedia yet [20:47] trism: ok, thanks for the confirmation. In precise I didn't notice big problems if I kept my system updated and I remember I read mark is saying something like we will make sure it's working all the time to encourage testers [20:47] is this expected with quantal? [20:48] you can't make testing issue free, else it would not need testing [21:07] jtaylor: sure but if the policy is to upload whatever is new without testing it at all is different than if you at least test it yourself [21:08] this particular issues has nothing to do with testing [21:08] its normal archive skew [21:08] there are now ways in place to reduce this a bit with ppa copies and -proposed, but its still not worth the effort in every case [21:24] ok thanks for the tips === skynet-2000 is now known as skynet === skynet is now known as Guest8428