[01:13] oh the irony of haters getting hated on [02:19] mhall119, hey [02:29] hey [02:29] sorry, was buried in the accomplishments code [02:29] jono: ^^ [02:29] didn't notice the ping [03:04] mhall119, np :-) [03:04] I am back now [03:05] about to make a video about how to create accomplishments [03:22] jono: question about the accomplishments, is there or will there be a way for the application to know that you have already filed your first bug? or will it wait for the first bug filed since installation of the application? [03:23] pangolin, no, it will know about previously achieved things [03:23] so when you run it for the first time you will get a bunch of trophies [03:23] for things you have already done [03:23] cool. [03:23] :-) [03:23] watching the video now :) [03:23] cool! [03:23] most recent one that is [03:23] :-) [03:23] jono - ping me tomorrow when you have a few mins - - I has info for you [03:23] :-) [03:24] jono: we need a community web team accomplishment when you have 5 commits to either summit or LTP [03:24] cjohnston: write one [03:24] I have a paper to write instead [03:24] heh, I should have watched before asking. The video answers my question early on [03:24] * akgraner is finding my pillow now - talk to you all tomorrow. [03:25] cjohnston: stop being responsible [03:25] i know.. it sucks [03:25] that's how we lost nigelb [03:25] and i only have 1 day left this week.. Work tomorrow, wednesday, thursday and friday [03:25] cjohnston, aha [03:25] mhall119: lost who? [03:25] the point is accomplishments are not about X number of contributions [03:25] they can be abused [03:25] haha [03:26] mhall119: <3 [03:26] jono: not every 5, after 5 [03:26] it should be more about "First commit" "First bug fix" "Joining the dev team" etc [03:26] nigelb: :) [03:26] cjohnston, that can still be abused [03:26] mhall119: Have you seen this http://mathiasbynens.be/demo/css-without-html [03:26] accomplishments are about new experiences [03:26] cjohnston, or new roles [03:26] mhall119: if you want to get nigelb back I know of a 100% fool proof way. [03:26] so first commit, first fix, joining the team, first merge etc [03:26] because each of those things requires quality work [03:26] nigelb: I don't see anything [03:27] jono: I see abuse that way.. only requiring one thing to get an accomplishment.. same as joining LP teams [03:27] pangolin: what's what? [03:27] mhall119 jono HIRE HIM! [03:27] lol [03:27] cjohnston, right, so accomplishments will be for teams that require approval [03:27] pangolin: that's how they lost me :) [03:27] as opposed to arbitrary joining [03:27] and we are still going to need to figure out what are good and bad accomplishments [03:27] mhall119: oh, never mind then [03:27] I am personally wanting to steer away from the 10 of this 50 of that type things [03:28] I guess getting commit access to a community web project would be a good accomplishment [03:28] mhall119: exactly. empty source with content. [03:28] I'm just not the give awards to all the players kinda guy. [03:29] accomplishments aren't for winning, they're for doing [03:30] awards arent for winning anymore either [03:30] this isn't political cjohnston [03:31] cjohnston, totally commit access is cool [03:32] trophies are more of a reflecting of things that people have done [03:32] and a cool way to discover other things [03:39] mhall119, just updated ubuntu-community-accomplishments btw if you were looking at it [03:41] brb, recording my tutorial vid [07:53] good morning [07:53] Hello dholbach [07:53] Aloha [07:55] hey :) [08:28] ciao Gwaihir [08:29] Gwaihir, do you know who's organising the UGJ event in Italy? [08:29] ah, ok - it's xdatap1 [08:29] need to have a chat with him :) [08:29] guten morgen dholbach! [08:29] http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-it/1546/detail/ [08:29] come stai? [08:29] cosa fai? [08:30] everything good here, what about you? [08:30] hey community, where should i looking for bug patches? [08:30] :) [08:30] yeah, paolo is organizing that event, there will be also Andrea Grandi and Marco Trevisan [08:30] i have attempted at fixing bug 936403 [08:30] Launchpad bug 936403 in software-center "There is a typo in Ubuntu Software Center strings. (DVD drive)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/936403 [08:30] Gwaihir, everything good here as well - I almost thought we'd approach spring soon, but today it started snowing again - and snowing lots [08:31] Gwaihir, cool, I'll have a chat with them [08:31] jokerdino, if you attach patches, subscribe the ubuntu-sponsors team to the bug [08:32] or is it reviewers? [08:32] jokerdino, and if you patch the .pot file, try to find the other occurrence of the string in the source code too [08:32] .pot files are auto-generated [08:32] oh ok. [08:33] ie: grep -r "connected.DVD" . [08:34] i am grepping it. [08:34] ah, ../softwarecenter/hw.py:59 [08:36] Bah, barcelona at this time is so expensive... anyone live there that would like paying guest for a few days? [08:37] couchsurfing? [08:38] yeah, had a look, most of the good places seem to be not there atm.. Ill look again thanks. [08:49] jussi: have a look on venere.com or hotels.com some very good cheap deals [08:50] czajkowski: ok [08:50] czajkowski: thanks - Id not heard of venere [08:51] use venere the whole time very cheap deals plus you can gain discount by singing up and earning rewards [08:54] http://wunderkit.uservoice.com/forums/142310-wunderkit/suggestions/2614596-release-a-wunderkit-app-for-ubuntu [08:55] what is wunderkit? [08:56] it is Wunderlist plus some other excellent tools to make life simpler [08:56] :D [08:57] Wunderlist is/was available in USC [09:14] czajkowski: just booked from venere! thanks a million! [09:15] np [10:21] dholbach: valorie of Ubuntu Women has been involved in GSoC [10:21] I believe she participated last year on behalf of KDE [10:22] bkerensa, nice [10:22] I hope some discussion on the list is going to happen and we see some who would be willing to take it on [10:22] hey dholbach, so i have edited the py file. what should i do next? [10:23] jokerdino, generate a diff again and attach it [10:23] and subscribe the 'ubuntu-sponsors' team [10:23] ok thanks! [10:24] :) [10:40] dholbach: the wiki page about ubuntu-sponsors sounds like they review packages, not patches. [10:41] may be the ubuntu-reviewers? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-reviewers [10:48] i will be back after dinner. [10:58] no no, it's the right team [11:09] sigh. sad the new sound theme is horrible :/ [11:09] mornin [11:09] morning czajkowski [11:09] bah [11:09] cjohnston: [11:09] jussi: [11:10] sorry Laura :/ [11:10] that was a nice picture you posted the other day with your wife and baby [11:10] next time I wont show you niace sites on the internet :p [11:12] cjohnston: thanks! yeah, I agree - was a good pic [11:12] czajkowski: :( [11:12] I didn't say good.. I mean.. it did have you in it :-) [11:15] aww :( [11:19] :-P [11:20] O_O ;-) [11:30] huats, let's blog about d-a-t soon :) [11:33] d-a-t? [11:33] developer advisory team [11:36] oh. :) === danilo_ is now known as danilos [14:38] heya popey [14:38] is the rc6 stuff in precise ootb? [14:39] Morning jcastro! [14:40] morning nigels! [14:40] jcastro: Is there an official way to request a speaker from Canonical for an event? [14:40] no clue [14:40] Ask the person directly maybe? [14:40] Hrm. [14:41] There's a sysadmin event in India and I was wondering if someone from Canonical could talk about Juju. [14:41] Not a sales person, but someone tech. [14:41] we have koolhead17 [14:41] but he's quite young [14:41] Aha, I know him. [14:41] Same friends circle, etc. [14:42] Also, only about 5 hours away by train. I'll strong-arm him :D [14:42] yes jcastro [14:42] works great on my x220 [14:43] nigelb: asking them directly has proven the best way tbh [14:43] yes as in, it's on? [14:43] man, my think went from like 21 watts to 11 watts after upgrades today [14:43] czajkowski: Thanks :) Will do. [14:43] they'll know their availability best [14:52] jcastro: yes, rc6 is on by default [14:53] popey: that is good to hear [14:55] mine dropped to 8W [14:55] * mhall119 dist-upgrades and hopes for longer battery life [14:56] DO IT! [14:56] I AM! [14:56] GOOD! [14:56] I KNOW! [14:58] popey: seriously I was at like 21 watts [14:59] now I am on 11. [14:59] man, more like 10.1! [15:01] jcastro: so what you're saying is that it doesn't go all the way to 11? [15:01] which is fine by me [15:02] * mhall119 is currently at ~20W [15:11] makes me wonder what the chromebook will be at. i think it was around 6 to 8 [15:13] Daviey: around? [15:15] jcastro: yah [15:16] What's the character limit for UDS applications these days? [15:17] 2k iirc [15:18] #j #ubuntu-unity [15:18] oops sorry. my mistake. [15:18] Pendulum: 1k [15:18] sorry [15:19] cjohnston: it went back down? [15:19] (I thought it'd been increased a year ago) [15:19] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~summit-hackers/summit/trunk/view/head:/summit/sponsor/models.py#L36 [15:19] I thought it did as well.. === albrigha is now known as Guest79155 [15:21] :( [15:21] hrm.. Pendulum it may be 3k.. I'm not sure... forms.py is 3k.. give me a few [15:21] ta === Guest79155 is now known as albrigha [15:28] looks like cjohnston is going to have to fix that :D [15:53] bah, meeting in 10? [15:53] dholbach: is it me or didn't we just have a bunch of meetings? [15:53] jcastro, demo day, irc meeting, hangout, ugj meeting [15:53] ugh [15:57] and a meeting to discuss the upcoming meetings. ;) [15:58] and discussions about having discussions [15:59] howdy all [15:59] hey jono [16:00] jono, I think balloons should go first, if we don't want to listen to him under anesthetics [16:00] haha [16:00] ok, dholbach, jcastro, balloons, dpm, mhall119..... [16:00] team meeting! [16:01] #startmeeting [16:01] Meeting started Tue Feb 21 16:01:22 2012 UTC. The chair is jono. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:01] Good morning, afternoon, evening...Ubuntu fans! [16:01] and today we present the round-tables of a beautiful group of people [16:02] men with charm, capability and outright perfection [16:02] ...and me :-) [16:02] jcastro, does he mean us ^? [16:02] lol [16:02] alright, first up... [16:02] the man...the legend...the tester...balloons! [16:02] \o/ [16:03] balloons, yoo hoo! [16:03] hehe.. i'll be quick here [16:05] last week for me involved prepping for global jam, checking out checkbox and doing more work on the call for testing process [16:05] in addition i started a critical applications list to target for testing and other purposes [16:06] finally we had unity 5.4 testing, lucid iso testing and several other testing initiatives going on for feature freeze [16:06] thanks much for all who tested and help test last week [16:06] :-) [16:07] that's all from me [16:07] thanks balloons [16:07] any questions for balloons? [16:08] alrighty [16:08] next up...the man with the plan...dpm! [16:08] hey [16:08] if anyone has ideas on how to do manual testing or reach more people i'm always open [16:08] balloons, good luck with the dentist :) [16:08] going in now.. gl [16:09] allright, have fun :) [16:09] balloons, enjoy! [16:09] right, here I go... [16:09] - Translations meeting - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2012-02-15 [16:09] - Helped davidpitkin with code changes on developer.ubuntu.com to change the order of featured apps on the front page. Reviewed merge proposal, fixed it and tested it [16:10] - Set up a throwaway server on the cloud to test the developer.ubuntu.com changes on a live site [16:10] - Followed up with pleia2 on a Fridge post category for posts that go on the Planet, rather than everything being syndicated automatically. Thanks Lyz for setting that up! [16:10] - Worked with TLE to set up a server for the Ubuntu docs localizer tool he'S been working on. Demoed it to the Canonical Community folks on http://176.34.113.223/ [16:10] - Helped stgraber with Pastebinit translations: spreading the word out and enabling translations in Launchpad (using a feature which now allows universe translations in LP, previously only main packages were translatable) [16:11] - Sent Ubuntu Global Jam reminder to all Loco teams in Europe [16:11] - Helped dholbach a bit with developer stats by going through some upload entries output by his script - sorry I couldn't get through more :/ [16:11] dpm, no worries - thanks in any case for the help! [16:11] big hugs :) [16:11] :) [16:11] so that was me [16:12] any questions? [16:12] dpm, the Ubuntu docs localizer tool is awesome, you should screencast and blog it [16:12] that was a cool demo on Fri [16:13] yeah, that's a good idea. I'll have a chat with TLE about it and see if I come up with a nice screencast [16:13] cool [16:13] any questions for dpm? [16:13] next up...the man, the myth, the headphones...dholbach! [16:14] - Dev Stats: lots of work put into getting stats on track. [16:14] (too much of it if you ask me :-)) [16:14] - Sponsoring: set up March Patch Pilot schedule. [16:14] - Dev News: got another update out the door together with bkerensa - thanks again! [16:14] - Developer Advisory Team: blogged about it. I hope huats and I can welcome new contributors next week in our call. [16:15] - Outreach: got introduced to some developers in India by Bhavani Shankar. They are interested in joining - some followup discussions. [16:15] - UGJ: interviewed the Italian team about their event and blogged it. [16:15] - SoC: some follow-up, trying to help some interested candidates in becoming contacts for Ubuntu as a mentoring organisation. [16:15] - small bits and pieces. [16:15] That's been it. [16:15] dholbach, what is the current status of the dev stats? [16:16] are we finally done now? ;-) [16:16] not done, but in much better shape [16:16] I'll give you the details later on [16:16] dholbach, when will we be done? [16:16] there's some statistics we recently talked about I still have to add and probably need an idea or two from you [16:17] also there's a number (not too many) of people on the lists which very likely have never contributed [16:17] so what kind of ETA are thinking? [16:17] but I want to still review the cases to be sure [16:17] (it won't change things much) [16:17] most of it is already there [16:18] ok, we can discuss it in our call [16:18] let's talk in our call in 1h about how important you think the remaining bits and pieces are [16:18] yes [16:18] I want to nail down a completition data [16:18] completion [16:18] how has the response to the Advistory Team post been? [16:18] some likes, but noone offered help yet [16:18] or you mean the actual outreach huats and I did? [16:19] I think we are going to need to be a bit more pro-active in finding volunteers [16:19] I mean the post on planet [16:19] I thought it was a cool post [16:19] thanks [16:19] huats will blog about it too this week [16:19] jono: I will [16:19] :) [16:19] so let's see how much interest we get :) [16:19] I think we are going to need to ping people directly and invite them to participate [16:19] I suspect a general post will not encourage people enough to join [16:19] huats, thanks for helping with this effort :-) [16:19] it is such valuable work :-) [16:20] also I'll mail the devel/motu list later on [16:20] alrighty, any more questions for dholbach? [16:20] next up...the Murdoch of the C-Team.....jcastro! [16:21] hi! [16:21] jcastro, btw, listening to Mariner [16:21] it just came on as we moved to you :-) [16:21] fate! [16:21] heh [16:21] ok so .... here we go [16:21] it was a holiday last week [16:21] err, yesterday [16:21] so I am already behind: [16:21] (from all that sitting on the beach) [16:22] POSSCON charm school and talk are on, I'll be there with Marco. [16:22] it was nice beach weather [16:22] Some progress on the charm schools for LISA and OSCON [16:23] work with Cezz on some marketing things for juju. [16:23] but that's been mostly handed off to Nick BArcet, who volunteered to help [16:23] so we'll have nice handouts and stuff for attendees [16:23] I took over lp:juju/docs, I need to get that in shape in order to get some WIs out of the way [16:23] unfortunately our docs story isn't looking so awesome right now [16:24] TODO for this week: [16:24] that seems to be the case everywhere [16:24] https://trello.com/board/juju-growth/4ec1696da3f94bd2ea5b2b01 [16:24] as you can see I am totally screwed [16:24] I am going to be in head-down-skating-hard mode all week. [16:24] other than most of these tasks I owe mhall some TODOs for the community to do for juju tthings for UGJ [16:24] and that's basically it. [16:25] questions? [16:25] oh, we have a juju webinar march 8, be there or be square [16:25] look for it in your favorite issue of UWN! [16:25] any questions for jcastro? [16:25] (48 people already signed up!) [16:25] oh, and some server team blog business which you'll see me blog about later [16:26] but it's kind of a surprise. (mwahaah) [16:26] blogging about a blog? [16:26] >_> [16:26] ok [16:26] next up...a man no one would dare to criticize...mhall119! [16:27] hah [16:27] lol [16:27] shorter list that usual this time [16:27] - Reached out to Asian loco teams, got a few responses and a couple of new events, need to follow up again with the rest [16:27] "shorter list that usual this time" - code for "I didn't write me list up in time" [16:27] :-) [16:28] * mhall119 never writes his list [16:28] guys, you should all prepare your lists [16:28] - Created a bunch of bugs for Unity integration with upstreams [16:28] the goal of these meetings is a comprehensive summary of your weeks [16:28] dholbach, jcastro, dpm, balloons, mhall119 ^ [16:28] * mhall119 goes through his GTG closed items [16:29] - Worked with the ARB to define lens/scope packing requirements [16:29] - Started a Quickly template for writing Singlet lenses (packing the template for 12.04 with didrocks quite literally as we speak)( [16:30] - Posted current list of UGJ target activities to the wiki (please add items your teams would like worked on so we can post it on LTP) [16:30] - Fixed bugs in LTP for participating events counter (waiting deployment) [16:31] - General Lens/Scope developer shepharding [16:31] any questions for me? [16:32] oh, I don't have a question, but I do have an item I forgot, which might be interesting to mhall119 as well: [16:32] - Talked to xdatap1 about a Quickly Qml template he had been working on - he just finished a first version on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly/QtQuickApplication [16:33] so if anyone wants to try, give it a go! [16:33] dpm, awesome [16:33] oooh [16:33] great to see the range of templates in quickly [16:34] alrighty [16:34] I am up next === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:34] (Holiday yesterday, so shorter week) [16:34] * General: [16:34] - Burndown looking good, but needs more attention. Growth has flattened a little. Everyone: please review your items at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html [16:34] if everyone could take a look at this this week, that would be great [16:35] dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119, jcastro - also could you review all the work items for community members related to your blueprints and do a little nagging :-) [16:35] yes [16:35] thanks :-) [16:35] * Developers: [16:35] - Finalizing getting our metrics in shape. This week is all about the growth. :-) [16:35] jono: since I wasn't on the team last UDS, which blueprints are mine? [16:35] * App Devs: [16:35] yes [16:35] mhall119, oh, you and balloons don't need to [16:35] mhall119, you can have some of mine [16:35] lol [16:36] :P [16:36] :-P [16:36] - Technical Board meeting to discuss removing the dependency requirement for scopes/lenses in Exras. It is back with the ARB for discussion. [16:36] we expect a response from the ARB on Friday [16:36] - Discussing app dev strat with David Pitkin, and requirements around marketing. [16:36] * QA: [16:36] mhall119: that means all of them [16:36] quiet you [16:36] - Getting more the testing in place with Nick's on-demand testing. [16:36] - Standardizing around a manual testing UI for users and back end for developers. [16:36] - Fleshed out a testing vision for 12.10 in delivering tests to users of the development branch. [16:37] ...in a nutshell...you have an app indicator that tells you current testing needed, clicking on one installs the PPA for you and loads up checkbox with a set of manual tests for you [16:37] this is going to be a goal for 12.10 [16:37] * Upstreams: [16:37] - Upstreams target list is looking finalized. Now to focus on the outreach this week. [16:38] mhall119 is about to become a upstream machine :-) [16:38] - Discussed d.u.c updates for the education piece of the developer on-ramp. dpm and mhall119 are on it. [16:38] * Juju: [16:38] - Brainstorming and putting in place a series of outreach efforts. This week we are scoping these out. [16:38] * Global Jam: [16:38] - Growing further awareness. [16:38] - Strategic call to put in place further plans for the coming week. [16:39] dpm, dholbach, balloons, mhall119, jcastro, bkerensa, czajkowski I forgot to send out the notes, will send them out soon [16:39] - Going to plan an event this week. [16:39] * Ubuntu Accomplishments: [16:39] - Spent a bunch of evenings and all weekend hacking. Having a good time. :-) [16:39] - Trophies are now signed, custom trophies are supported, and I fixed a bunch of bugs. [16:40]