[00:00] dat789: If you get a launchpad account then when someone tries to fix the bug they can ask you questions about it, and/or notify you when it's fixed [00:00] yellow pencil... this report is public; you are not directly subscribed...; edit bug mail.. [00:00] launchpad account... ok, signing up [00:01] dat789: No, the one to the left just above the yellow bar [00:04] ah, found it. must log in first though. hehe [00:08] so now it's best to reinstall and revert to 10.04, eh? [00:09] dat789: Well, is everything else working? [00:09] so far, err, yes [00:09] well... actually.. [00:09] how do you check my video card ?? [00:09] dat789: Hmm, so 12.04 is still in testing - so it's going to bump about a bit before April, but stuff is getting fixed [00:09] you know... like how we did with lsusb ? [00:10] lspci | grep VGA [00:10] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV770 [Radeon HD 4870] [00:11] when i update driver for this... [00:11] and restart... it only manage to get to the splash screen before my monitor goes black [00:11] and it says "no signal input..." [00:12] dat789: When you say update driver, what did you select? [00:13] ATI/AMD proprietary FLGRX graphic driver (post-release updates) [00:13] dat789: OK, so there are two drivers for that card, a proprietary one and an open one [00:13] install. then activate [00:13] yup [00:14] dat789: The pen one should work fine but won't be the fastest (especially for games, and might run the fan a bit more) [00:14] The open one is actually better for 2D, but if you want gaming you should go for fglrx. [00:14] "the pen one ... " ?? what do you mean? [00:14] dat789: open one [00:14] The opensource driver. [00:14] Ubuntu ships with it by default. [00:15] err... open which one?? [00:15] * dat789 confused [00:15] There are 2 drivers for your videocard. [00:15] yes [00:15] radeon and fglrx [00:15] radeon ships by default and is opensource [00:15] fglrx has to be installed (like you're trying to do) [00:15] it's the same 2 drivers [00:16] Nope. [00:16] dat789: No, 2 different drivers [00:16] just that one is post-release updates and the other is now [00:16] not [00:16] radeon is more stable, but its powermanagement is poorer and less 3D features/performances [00:16] dat789: However, if you're saying you have two different versions of fglrx then that doesn't surprise me [00:16] hi guys :) [00:17] is anyone using DDMS (android) in ubuntu 12.04? [00:17] I experience bad image refresh [00:17] so... [00:17] dat789: fglrx sometimes takes a little time to catch up during the new ubuntu release cycles - it'll sort itself out by release [00:17] ok, 2 different drivers [00:17] I have to double click on windows separators to make the windows refresh [00:17] ok :) [00:17] neither of them is activated [00:18] should I ?? [00:18] oh wait I thought you were talking to me xD [00:18] if i get a black screen... i dont' know how to recover/ revert [00:19] dat789: When you boot, hold down the left shift button just after the bios, you should get the grub2 boot menu [00:19] There isn't any indication (besides working 3D) that you're using the radeon driver. [00:19] dat789: There is a safe/recovery option on there - I think you should be able to remove the driver from there [00:20] shift key, eh? [00:20] My last message didn't make much sense. [00:20] yea, it didn't quite [00:20] Daekdroom: Should show on the additional drivers screen shouldn't it? [00:20] penguin42, fglrx does. Radeon doesn't. [00:21] You have to check for it on CLI [00:21] don't now how to do that, sorry [00:21] dat789: OK, lets go back a step :-) [00:21] dat789: Does it currently boot OK ? [00:21] yes [00:21] good [00:21] boots okay [00:21] monitor does not flicker [00:22] The thing is, whenever he is not using fglrx, he's mostly likely using radeon, unless it breaks. [00:22] dat789: so if you go to the additional drivers setting thing what does it say? [00:22] Daekdroom: Yeh agree - just wanted to check [00:22] it says: No proprietary drivers are in use in this system [00:23] dat789: OK, so you're using the 'Radeon' open driver at the moment [00:23] dat789: If you're not a heavy gamer and you're not on a laptop you can just stop there - all good [00:24] ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphic driver (post release updates) ; and [00:24] ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphic driver [00:24] I had no idea ubuntu provided post-release versions of flgrx. [00:24] i don't know how to play games on ubuntu (i know i'm lame) [00:24] and i'm on desktop [00:24] dat789: So leave it as is - then; I use the Radeon driver [00:25] but i got this new graphic card just 1.5 months [00:25] Daekdroom: What does it mean by post-release? [00:25] so, i was just thinking... JUST thinking... to utilize it. [00:25] penguin42, well, Ubuntu 12.04 is mostly likely going to use Catalyst 12.4 [00:25] Daekdroom: i dont know [00:25] post-release means people can use 12.5 when it's released, 12.6 and so on. [00:25] penguin42: but i doubt i'm using CAtalyst at all [00:26] dat789: Yeh you're not currently using catalyst [00:26] so, i'm using the Open driver at the moment [00:26] dat789: So if you try one of the FGLRX ones and it doesn't work, my guess is it'll start to work near the 12.04 release in April [00:27] dat789: The binary drivers come as a blob from AMD/ATI and they have to do an update to keep it inline with the new Ubuntu [00:27] 2 long months waiting... :( [00:27] dat789: It'll probably work if you use 10.04 or 11.10 [00:27] yeah... i did an update at the terminal [00:28] downloaded the wubi ...and suddenly i'm at 12.04 [00:28] so, nothing to do here until 2 months later, eh? [00:28] dat789: It'll probably be a bit before that [00:29] * penguin42 doesn't check on the fglrx myself - I'm reasonably happy with the open one on ---> machine [00:30] thanks for your time and help guys [00:31] no prob [00:31] one last thing [00:31] difference between #ubuntu and here ? [00:31] #ubuntu+1 is for the development version. [00:32] like 12.04 ?? [00:32] Once 12.04 is released, it'll be discussed in #ubuntu [00:32] ah. [00:32] makes perfect sense [00:32] thanks! [00:32] bye for now [01:13] yofel: That weird touchpad thing is fixed [01:13] yofel: with our EEE netbooks! [01:37] I can connect to my wifi card, browse the web etc, but cannot detect the card when I type "airmon-ng" why? [01:50] nice.. new libbluray.. does that mean ubuntu can play bluray now? :p [01:50] whats the apt command to show the changelog [01:52] snadge, it cannot play every Blu-Ray disc. [01:52] It's in the package description [01:52] 'NB: Most commercial Blu-Ray are restricted by AACS or BD+ technologies and this library is not enough to playback those discs.' [02:17] * psusi refuses to buy commercial blue rays for that reason [02:42] * Daekdroom never bought or played a BluRay disc [02:43] yeah but have you got a bdrom? [02:43] Yes, I do have a BluRay drive. [02:44] Tbh, let me check [02:44] Ah. It plays BluRay discs. [02:44] No +R :( [04:44] I just noticed gnome-contacts in update manager. Did it appear just now, or has it been around for a while without me noticing it? [05:06] i think it's been in the gnome 3 ppa for oneiric users for awhile [05:17] fglrx pisses me off [05:17] in current precise.. if you play a video.. it crashes X [05:17] and the window title corruption bug thats been there for 50 years.. is still there [05:24] hey guys, if you download the daily via torrent, is the image 'updated' when the new file gets uploaded the next day? [05:48] ActionParsnip: I would think not as the checksum would change [05:49] gah, that'd be sweet.Saves having to play with the diff stuff [05:49] thanks dude :) [06:07] I am getting graphics corruption when running 12.04 in qemu-kvm. [06:08] Tronic, I think it runs with their graphics. [06:08] Rather nasty rendering mistakes (or not repaining when it should). [06:08] But it still seem to be able to render the UI. [06:08] you might try vbox [06:08] Tronic: same with Unity2D as well? [06:11] ActionParsnip: How can I choose that on the LiveCD? [06:12] Tronic: log off, select 2D, log in [06:13] Logging off makes it go in some sort of mode change loop (Xorg restarting perhaps). [06:15] Tronic: or try xubuntu, it will not use effects by default and will give a snappier system, or try lubuntu [06:17] Getting that and kubuntu now. === urlin2u is now known as urfr332gO [07:12] when will be Precise out [07:12] share: april this year [07:12] any idea of release date [07:12] 12.04 = 04/2012 [07:12] ok [07:12] what about the day [07:12] share: didnt you notice that with Oneiric? [07:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PreciseReleaseSchedule [07:13] share: the exact day is to be determined [07:13] ok thanks for the information [07:13] ActionParsnip: btw you do frequent omgubuntu.co.uk dont u [07:14] share: I do [07:14] :) [07:14] bye [07:14] vlc 2 arrived in the repos today. [07:17] urfr332gO: it was in there on the 18th actually [07:17] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/vlc/2.0.0-1 [07:17] ActionParsnip, idn't show up till todays update for me. [07:17] didn't [07:18] urfr332gO: maybe a slow update to the server you are using.. [07:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/851008/ got mine on the 18th too [07:20] ActionParsnip, I'm using ubuntu.com [07:20] urfr332gO: so the main server? [07:21] ActionParsnip, yes but I had a bunch of packages being held I used synaptic rather then the cli I think that did it. [07:22] possibly [07:22] ActionParsnip, Now that I think about it when I saw the hold list I saw it. [07:23] urfr332gO: if you have a PPA with VLC it may have caused an issue [07:23] I didn't run a dist-upgrade or check the update manager, it calling the holds partial yesterday. [07:24] only in oneiric [07:24] just the regular repos only ppa is Ubuntu tweak [07:25] no biggie it rubbing fine. :) [07:25] running* [08:03] I am facing an issue where i can't play any video in vlc, gnome player, etc... as soon as i do it, i logout. However if i do vlc on the tty, i can watch video in 8bit(?) colors [08:17] Is this a known bug as so far i cant find anything. [08:20] Error404NotFound: does it happen as a new user? [08:20] ActionParsnip: as a new user: i created a new user and now its happening to him, was that the question? if yes, then no. [08:21] Error404NotFound: so it affects all users? Just to be clear [08:21] ActionParsnip: yes, so far, i am trying to install another driver for ATI card i have. [08:22] if i go offline, that would be because VLC logged me out :) [08:23] ActionParsnip: offtopic, We appreciate your contribution and you're a true asset to community, just remembered that i saw you on omgubuntu ^_^ [08:24] It has something to do with Video output setting in VLC, if it set dummy then it doesn't do anything. So its video and probably driver. [08:25] Error404NotFound: many do :) [08:25] Error404NotFound: do other players do the same thing? [08:26] ActionParsnip: yup, tries gnome player, same thing. But i use VLC for everything so if this works i am the happiest person in world. [08:26] brb, gotta reboot my box for driver to be active. [08:27] hey guys, what should i be doing regarding the bug patch? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/936403 [08:27] Launchpad bug 936403 in software-center (Ubuntu) "There is a typo in Ubuntu Software Center strings. (DVD drive)" [Low,Confirmed] [08:41] jokerdino: normally you can translate directly in launchpad [08:41] jokerdino: no need for a patched *.po [08:42] jokerdino: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/software-center/+pots/software-center/es/159/+translate put there the correct translation [08:43] it has to be fixed. [08:43] because there is a stray string [08:44] jokerdino: #ubuntu-translators also put the spanish translator group on the bug [08:44] jokerdino: its only a typo, its not a core app causing massive system instability [08:45] jokerdino: normally you make a new suggestion in launchpad and inform the translation team about the issue [08:45] well, yeah [08:45] jokerdino: but better help is in #ubuntu-translators [08:45] jokerdino: so it doesn't 'have to be fixed'its just something nice to have sorted [08:45] well, i just want to submit my first bug fix. [08:46] it is a bitesize bug, i knkow [08:46] jokerdino: thats cool, and very commendable ;) [08:46] jokerdino: as always the size does not matter :) [08:46] jokerdino: every patch is welcome [08:46] iceroot: wish my girlfriend said the same thing :( [08:46] i just wanted to know how the bug fixing process goes. [08:48] jokerdino: propose a branch against lp:software-center [08:48] jokerdino: because there is no upstream-project i think your method is correct [08:49] micahg: not sure how i would do that. [08:49] dhalboch pointed to me that i should edit the hw.py because it generates the pot file. [08:49] jokerdino: I'd suggest we move this to #ubuntu-devel [08:50] hm sure [09:17] ActionParsnip: my observations: no matter what driver you install the Default video output in vlc makes you logout, so does almost every other option. For my laptop the XCB of OpenGL and X11 work, for my desktop the Xvideo with XCB also works. [09:19] Error404NotFound: stick on what works then.... [09:20] ActionParsnip: yup, made a note and using it, try to take a dump with Default and other video outputs, no luck so far [09:22] btw, once i have upgrade to a daily iso, from them on i can just do apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade without mounting the daily iso as same stuff would be available in repos, too, correct? [09:24] Error404NotFound: you can use install ISOs as install media but the packages on the daily ISO will be the ones in the repo.... [09:25] ActionParsnip: hmm, so help me here a bit. Whats the need of zsync if we can upgrade online in less amount of bandwidth and time? (zsync would also download its meta file) [09:27] Error404NotFound: I've not used that method. I don't have a bandwidth cap and a 50Mb connection, so I just pull down ISOs when I want them [09:27] ActionParsnip: hmm, same here though i am not on 50M :) also the 15M of zsync meta file isn't a lot. Guess zsync+iso is if you have multiple systems and want to upgrade them offline. [09:29] Error404NotFound: makes sense, just never done it. If I had a lot of systems i'd run my own local repo on LAN [09:30] ActionParsnip: yup, that makes more sense than zsync+iso. Thanks again for the time and help. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:49] did anyone noticed any change about "oneconf" ? [09:49] its a cool feature but its not impemented very well [09:52] What change? [10:09] zzecool: oneconf is already in software center [10:09] yeah i know but very poorly implemented [10:10] well, can't disagree. [10:12] We need something better , group of applications to save with or without their dependencies , where to save , like ubuntu one, local folder, local server etc [10:13] I think i read somewhere about a nice guide how to install packages in on pc or server and then all the other pc in the network autoupdates to this packages [10:14] This is a joy for an IT [10:33] Anybody has java with icedtea working in precise (e.g. on http://javatester.org/version.html - warning, may hang firefox, it did that for me) [10:53] hi! I've installed through unetbootin the daily live. Installation went fine but at boot I don't see grub. in fact it switch immediately to memtest86+ :( [10:53] I've tried to press 'esc' or 'down arrow' but nothing. [10:57] do you suggest using a stable live or trying again reinstalling the os? [10:58] thunderbird seems to have it's own menu (file, edit etc.) now instead of it having it on top of the screen as all other apps [10:58] bug? [11:11] rye: just use chrome it only crash the Java plugin :) [11:11] rye: and yes it doesn working for me too [11:14] rye: but Jdownloader works ( i dont know if it use his own java libraries or the icetea )\ [11:16] zzecool, i think it does not use icedtea, no java applets work for me now at all [11:17] it use java for sure but.... [11:20] do be real , i dont rly know what icetea suppose to be , im confused with java , about what they replaced i read something in the past days but didnt paid any attention [11:22] replaced oracle java with icetea or something ? [11:22] rye: ? [11:22] zzecool, icedtea is a browser java plugin [11:23] zzecool, which builds with OpenJDK, which is an opensource version of java [11:23] is the browser plugin of the OpenJDK ? [11:23] i see [11:23] i got it ty [11:25] rye: there is a ppa that support Oracle java 7 [11:26] let me check [11:26] rye: here you are http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html [11:26] i dont know if it updated for precise [11:48] rye: yep i just tested and it works just fine [12:11] apt-get update: bzip2 [12:11] hash sum mismatch [12:11] in it-archive.ubuntu/..precise../ [12:18] hello all, could someone please help me reset my launcher reveal settings via cli as I am now unable to reveal the launcher in a virtual machine at all, can't really do anything at this time [12:20] unity --reset [12:22] how do i get a terminla open if I have no launcher or dash, unity reset not working from tty [12:22] ctrl - shift - t [12:23] oops. wrong one. ctrl - alt - t [12:23] ah awesome didn't think it qwould work while running virtualbox on a unity desktop, while foxussing on the VM it did launch [12:24] bingo, sorted, thanks! [12:24] nice job. [12:25] * penguin42 wonders if bug 865001 works in PP - anyone tried it lately? [12:25] Launchpad bug 865001 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "[regression] sharing a network with other computers no longer works in oneiric" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865001 [12:35] arg and as I fix my virtualbox client my entire 12.04 desktop, which runs the Vm, crashes, really hope the gnome-settings-daemon crash bug is fixed soon\ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:46] I hate the bug .................. [13:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seahorse/+bug/189774 [13:46] Launchpad bug 189774 in seahorse (Ubuntu) "seahorse shows passwords without verification" [Wishlist,Triaged] [13:47] so do i [13:47] what a hell of security bug [13:47] and still nothing about it [13:47] it is actually a security bug. [13:47] it is [13:48] more like a preinstalled keylogger that does the JOB good [13:48] i thought it was addressed [13:49] zzecool: But this is with automatic login enabled? [13:49] no of course not [13:49] its with either way [13:49] ok [13:49] open your dash type passwords [13:50] take a look in there and get rdy to FREAK out if you didnt know by now [13:50] :P [13:52] Hello, aufs kernel module missing? I'm attempting to fold cow image + squashfs into new squashfs. [14:36] Hi guys, is there any sensible way to go from lucid to precise? [14:36] I'm told changing sources and doing dist-upgrade is usually a bad idea these days? [14:36] 10.04 to 12.04 ? [14:37] !lucid [14:37] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server) [14:37] it's a one step upgrade once Precise is released LTS to LTS [14:37] 10.04 >10.10>11.04>11.10>12.04 maybe faster to reinstall all the OS [14:37] zniavre, one step lts to lts [14:38] 12.04 is not lts yet [14:38] it should be released no ? [14:38] when it is [14:38] so can I not go straight to 12.04? [14:38] Not yet. [14:38] in april [14:38] MikeH, once it is released it's one step [14:39] it's just alpha 2 now, so may be prudent to wait [14:39] or you could follow what zniavre suggested [14:41] do you (tester's) experience some theme bugs on precise too ? like wrong menus fg/bg colors ? [14:44] bazhang: To be honest, I'd be less labour intensive to just go with a fresh install [14:45] I'll hang on - It's only really one package that sparked the interest. [14:45] MikeH, thats fine, you can do that anytime, then just keep update/upgrade to final [14:45] What are the chances of a simple package working off the bat straight out of the precise repo into lucid? [14:45] none [14:46] heh, I used to do stuff like this all the time with Debian. I haven't really kept up with Ubuntu [14:47] saying that, we're probably going back to woody the last time I did a major upgrade [14:49] zniavre: yes it's bugged [14:50] zniavre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/925895 [14:50] Launchpad bug 925895 in unity "Ambiance sub-menus light like Radiance after latest light-themes update." [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:50] philinux, thnak you [14:54] philinux, zniavre: the menus are meant to be white, except those at the panel. [14:54] The panel submenus are white instead of black. Every other white menu is meant to be white. [14:56] I mean, the only real bug there is that submenus on Unity are white. [14:56] Daekdroom: not with ambiance [14:58] philinux, they CHANGED the theme. [14:58] The only menus meant to be black now are those at the top bar, including indicators. [14:59] Daekdroom: that is a known bug. [14:59] Daekdroom: in that case I'll find a workaround it's horrid [14:59] jokerdino, I know it is. But I'm explaining to him that not every white menu is a bug. [14:59] it is a bug, i had a little tweet convo with cimi [14:59] I asked it in #ubuntu-unity yesterday. [15:00] bug ping pong ? [15:00] what changed between then and now? :/ [15:00] unico vs gtk+3 [15:03] There is a bug about menu colors, but right-click menu being white is not one of them. [15:07] Daekdroom: what about the adwaita dark theme [15:07] What about it? [15:07] Daekdroom: when I right click on the desktop I dont want to be blinded lol [15:07] Huh.. I've never used adwaita dark.. [15:20] Anyone is getting Shutdown and reboot hangs from time to time ? [15:29] zzecool: Hey, have this problem ever occured to you ? [15:31] hmm vlc seems to fall to pieces completely when playing a dvd - bad blocks all over [15:32] ah - needs larger buffer [15:42] glosoli: hey no man [15:42] glosoli: all good here [15:42] penguin42: dvd 's ? [15:43] i think dvd's are so 1990 ;p [15:45] j/k [15:50] zzecool: do you know where pid is located ? [15:50] what [15:50] ? [15:53] glosoli: ? [15:58] zzecool: some file called pid or smth like that [15:59] so what file should I edit to modify my PATH variable? [16:01] why doesn't indicator-sound show what rhythmbox is playing? [16:02] /etc/environment doesn't seem to be evaluated when starting the shell [16:05] brendand, it's currently bugged, it seems. [16:06] Daekdroom, seems like there's no connection between them at all [16:06] What do you mean? [16:06] The controls are working. It's just not displaying the song info correctly. [16:11] glosoli: i think as pid you mean the "process id" [16:11] right ? [16:13] glosoli: ? [16:16] zzecool: yes I think that's what I need, as i remember, once I deleted it. some time ago, reboot and etc was fine to me :( now again it hangs from time to time, such a pity [16:16] erm [16:17] as pid i refer to the process id of every process [16:17] type "ps aux" in terminal [16:17] the first number is the pid [16:18] zzecool: 1990s true [16:18] glosoli: i can understand what you have deleted [16:18] penguin42: :) [16:21] zzecool: still; I tend not to copy stuff and the occasional bought DVD is cheaper than a subscription to any of the overpriced film services (that are rather closed) - especially since I tend to buy the DVDs second hand [16:21] zzecool: and I can't be bothered ripping them [16:22] penguin42: i can agree [16:22] this Kill Bill v1 I just watched was only about £1.75 [16:27] Cool movie ! [16:27] i like it so much [16:27] You have a point [16:27] Daekdroom, for me the controls don't work [16:28] instead of using netflix to buy the dvds [16:28] zzecool: However, I did find that Dragon player crashes on scene selection [16:28] Daekdroom, also if you click the 'Ryhthmbox' menu entry it doesn't do anything [16:28] Daekdroom, know of any existing bugs on this? otherwise i'll be raising some [16:28] penguin42: hmmm i think vlc uses bugzilla or something for bug reports [16:28] im not sure [16:28] zzecool: vlc worked nicely [16:28] ah [16:29] zzecool: " i can understand what you have deleted" ? [16:29] brendand, I haven't seen any bug report on that, but the issues are very likely known. [16:29] glosoli: you said that you have deleted the pid file [16:30] zzecool:I can't just saw somewhere in internet, it was my last try.. hate that some problems, after about one year still lasts :) [16:30] glosoli: what is the problem im still confused [16:30] ? [16:30] No Webcam support even if it's UVC in my Asus, no suspend, hybernate, no proper reboot or shutdown (from time to time hangs) [16:30] ohh i c [16:31] I am ubuntu fan since probably Ubuntu 6,04 or even before, but sometimes I just hate ;D [16:33] i know the feeling [16:33] i had a webcam problem too [16:33] but i found some driver modules to load [16:34] for my camera in sony vaio [16:34] zzecool: webcam problem lats so long.. they say that they support UVC properly, but it aint looking so. :) [16:34] lasts'' [16:36] zzecool: And all thet incompatibility is for availability of installing Ubuntu into any computer :/ [16:36] that'' [16:38]