[00:04] how should I get rid of the old/unused branch? https://code.launchpad.net/luz [00:05] by vcs-imports [00:06] ianm_: ask a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar [00:09] mwhudson: done https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+question/54488 [00:13] thanks [00:19] Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. - Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. [00:19] got this on http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wicd-devel/wicd/trunk/files [00:24] well guax has left, fyi everyone else, just bounced codebrowse. [00:30] nuts. when it said 'name' i thought it meant /my/ name! https://launchpad.net/tim-abell [00:30] apparently i am now a piece of software [00:31] would anyone care to file a bug against me? eg, '... is an idiot' [00:31] tim_abell: would you like me to remove that for you? [00:31] yes please :) [00:31] or rather rename? [00:31] rename would be better [00:31] photo-frame-prep is what i was after [00:32] :D [00:32] one sec [00:32] nice one [00:32] ps, launchpad is the best idea ever [00:32] https://edge.launchpad.net/photo-frame-prep [00:33] are you moving from github to lp? outof curiosity: why? [00:33] err - drop the edge bit - sorry [00:33] super, thanks a millions [00:33] or many millions perhaps [00:33] tim_abell: heh - you're as imaginative at names as we tend to be :-) we almost had something like "this_is_a_script_to_separate_wodgets_from_wibbles_on_pyhton_and_postgresql.py" [00:34] lol [00:34] it's a little geeky gift for the gf and her photo frame === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [00:34] cool [00:34] engineer!=creative type [00:35] Terry Pratchett's: Leonard of Quirm is my role model ;-) [00:35] * tim_abell breaks out wikipedia to pretend he remebers [00:35] and can spel [00:36] now that here's life: how to milestones and releases work together? I expected to be able to link a release t milestone ("hey that's done") but I don't find a way but they seem to be independent ... [00:37] spm: mine's Bloody Stupid Johnson. [00:37] heh, excellent [00:37] thanks again for your help [00:37] * tim_abell returns to semi-reality [00:38] jml: remind me to never run any of your code in production. oh. wait. epic fai........ ;-) [00:38] spm: not *all* of my software has a horribly fatal flaw. [00:39] spm 1, jml 0 :-P [00:41] ... more like spm 1, jml 7395. but lets not quibble over details [00:41] :) [00:42] how do you specify that a branch is part of a series? [00:42] johannes: tbh, aren't too sure myself. I tend to use milestones as a "target" - something to aim towards; "releases" being a stake in the ground - this happened then. type of thing. [00:45] mwhudson: so I've switched the "initial-import" series over to use my trunk branch, is that enough to now delete the ~vcs-imports/luz/trunk branch? [00:46] mwhudson: https://code.launchpad.net/luz [00:53] well, after all that, i'm pleased to announce https://launchpad.net/photo-frame-prep version 0.00000001 :) [00:54] can launchpad read from github? not that it matters, i'm just curious [00:58] watch for roundoff error on the version number ;) [00:58] tim_abell: want some feedback on the GUI? http://www.github.com/timabell/photo-frame-prep/wikis/screenshots [01:00] um, sure [01:00] * tim_abell hides [01:00] ianm_: it's gone [01:01] mwhudson: thanks! can I rename the series too? [01:01] ianm_: yep [01:01] ok, hit me ianm_ [01:02] tim_abell: (I'll be gentle) ok, in no particular order... [01:02] tim_abell: are you using GLADE for the GUI? [01:03] to be honest, i can't remember, it was my first encounter with python guis [01:03] and i did it a few months back now [01:03] tim_abell: did you use a graphical GUI design tool? [01:03] yes [01:04] oh yeah, there we go http://www.github.com/timabell/photo-frame-prep/tree/master/gui.wxg wxGlade [01:04] spiv: and how do you say "aim reached"? Simply setting the miletone inactive? [01:05] tim_abell: 1) window should have a 6px border width [01:05] * tim_abell takes notes [01:05] tim_abell: GTK has a "pick directory" button widget, I recommend you use that [01:06] tim_abell: 3) use a stock button for Go, which will give it an icon and free translation [01:06] johannes: ? [01:06] ag [01:06] arg [01:06] was to spm :-) [01:06] cool, thanks ianm_ [01:06] tim_abell: the "process subfolders" checkbox belongs up with the Input Directory widgets, probably right under the new "Pick Directory" button [01:07] i'll make a note for myself in the bug tracker for next time i look at it [01:07] yes, good point [01:07] johannes: heh. you aren't the only one to do that; usually it's the other way. People ping me vs spiv :-) [01:08] that goes worse,myformer boss was called "johann" and a colleague "jo" - that's fun on internal irc :-) [01:08] johannes: in answer tho: via "here's the new hotness tarball"; that is the release, an annouce is separately made (ooo reminds me did a release on the w/e - need to announce). the milestone is then ignored - effectively - expect for historical purposes. [01:08] I'm not suggesting I like this tho. Seems.. untidy. [01:09] logged as https://bugs.launchpad.net/photo-frame-prep/+bug/308044 seeing as i have a memory like a sieve [01:09] Launchpad bug 308044 in photo-frame-prep "suggested gui improvements" [Undecided,New] [01:09] ooh, spooky [01:12] tim_abell: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20426976/Export%20to%20Photo%20Frame.png [01:12] tim_abell: something like that... [01:12] wow [01:12] that's cool [01:15] spm: ok, good, I at least didn't miss an option to do that then :-) [01:15] tim_abell: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html [01:16] mwhudson: thanks for the help. it looks way better now. just "lp:luz. Series: trunk" [01:16] oh, i'd never looked at that (as you can tell). thanks, this is all most helpful [01:17] ianm_: good :) [01:17] mwhudson: it was becoming a problem, people checking out the old version via the instructions "bzr branch lp:luz" [01:19] mwhudson: how can I 'bzr upgrade' the branch in launchpad? it keeps telling me to do that for better performance [01:19] Format for lp-44825360:///~ian-mcintosh/luz/trunk/.bzr is deprecated - please use 'bzr upgrade' to get better performance [01:20] ianm_: bzr upgrade lp:luz should do it [01:20] ianm_: though i can do that for you from a machine in the data centre if you like, which will be much quicker [01:20] sure if you like. is it safe? I don't have a complete checkout (just lightweight ones) [01:21] maybe I'll branch now then we can go ahead with the upgrade [01:21] it's probably a good idea to have a back up, yes [01:21] (though bzr upgrade makes a backup first) [01:22] it's up to rev 950. do balloons fall in the data center when it hits 1000 commits? [01:22] if not maybe you could set that up when you're in there [01:23] heh [01:23] ianm_: what format do you want it upgraded to? packs? [01:24] mwhudson: recommendation? [01:25] mwhudson: I know nothing about the formats [01:25] ianm_: packs is probably the best performance/compatibility trade-off now [01:26] mwhudson: can it be changed later? [01:26] yes [01:26] mwhudson: in that case, OK let's go with packs [01:27] in progress [01:27] mwhudson: great. I've branched it successfully [01:28] ianm_: and done [01:30] mwhudson: thanks! [01:30] the message is gone [01:31] again [01:31] hi [01:31] mwhudson: although it still takes ages to branch! is that just a property of bzr? [01:31] ianm_: are you branching into a repo? [01:31] again my files isn't imported from rosseta*!!?? [01:31] mwhudson: just running bzr branch lp:luz [01:31] and the msgfmt -c finde nor errors [01:32] why u don't accept that!? [01:32] S-i-A: rosetta was closed over the w/e for Jaunty updates. Has been re-enabled about 40ish minutes ago. [01:33] S-i-A: wasn't *meant* to be such a long period - oversight. :-( [01:33] ianm_: it should be pretty quick [01:33] spm: must i upload againd or what ? [01:33] mwhudson: I'll time it here [01:33] S-i-A: I shouldn't think so - the backlog should be pickedup and carried forward. But I may be wrong... [01:34] mwhudson: I assume this is known "Server is too old for streaming pull, reconnecting. (Upgrade the server to Bazaar 1.2 to avoid this)" [01:34] ianm_: you must be using a fairly old bazaar to be seeing that [01:35] mwhudson: Bazaar (bzr) 1.3.1 [01:35] That counts as fairly old :) [01:35] ianm_: newest is 1.10 now [01:36] is that apt-get installable in 8.04 ? [01:37] if you enable the bzr ppa, yes [01:37] (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bzr/ubuntu hardy main [01:37] ) [02:17] spiv: thanks! [02:19] cool, that is many times faster doing a branch [02:40] 3m32.082s to 1m4.870s [02:40] wow [02:41] mwhudson: ? [02:41] ianm_: quite an improvement [02:42] the .bzr is about 13 megs, so that comes out at about 200kb/s average speed [02:42] which seems decent enough [05:14] Launchpad, you have failed hard. [09:02] hi everyone [09:02] any one knows that launchpad bug [09:03] where an extra string is attached to the /+filebug/ and it returns a "lost something" page? [09:03] its a bug in apport-cli, I think [09:10] BUGabundo_work, In my experience this is because launchpad is a bit slow, you can solve this problem by refreshing the page a bit later [09:12] * BUGabundo_work trying again [09:12] yeah [09:12] now it worked! [09:12] should I file a bug? [09:13] I think this issue is known, there where some discussions on friday here in this channel about it [09:14] okay === henninge changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: - [09:14] I remember seeing an email about it, on lp-users [09:19] BUGabundo_work: did you first get a 404, and then when you reloaded you got the page you expected (still with the string attached at the end)? [09:23] * wgrant blames replication, as he has seen a looooot of lag on staging since it was introduced there. [09:23] well the 1st 2 times it failed with a some what 404 [09:24] then when you told me to refresh, I had to open a new apport-cli bug, and it worked, so I couldn't test the refresh [09:24] FYI I'm on edge [10:57] Hi! Anyone here from vcs-imports who can try to get https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/vpnc/trunk working again, possibly by re-importing it, or should I file a question for Launchpad itself to get this done? === salgado is now known as salgado-sick === intellectronica changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: intellectronica === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [13:03] Hi! what are valid 'section' names I can use in a package I want to upload to my PPA? [13:03] (I tried 'main' and 'universe' and they were not accepted) [13:03] cprov, do you know the answer to that? [13:04] abli: those are components. [13:04] abli: there is a open bug to expose the the valid sections [13:04] abli: go with 'Section: misc' for now [13:04] so, how do I find out a valid section? [13:05] ok. [13:05] abli: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/299034 [13:05] Launchpad bug 299034 in soyuz "Soyuz does not have a facility to manage sections" [Medium,Triaged] === stub1 is now known as stub === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:30] good afternoon intellectronica [13:30] hi BUGabundo_work [13:31] i'm just off to get something to eat, but how can i help you today? [13:31] oh nothing [13:31] just saying hi [13:31] I published my package, with got built on all three archs (i386, amd64 and lpia) but my ppa page (https://launchpad.net/~abeld/+archive) still says "Packages [...] 0 binary packages". Shouldn't those 3 binary packages show up there? (after all, it did get built.) [13:31] just got from lunch my self [13:32] Hi people, I have a little question for you : I'm actually translating english text to french... but when I find a typing error in the english text, what can I do to fix it? [13:32] BUGabundo_work: ah cool :) [13:32] abli: binaries take up to 20 minutes to be published. [13:32] henninge: can you answer FarInTheWoods? [13:32] cprov, even after getting built? ok. Thanks. [13:32] abli: yes. [13:33] FarInTheWoods: Hi! [13:33] I just woke up and I'm kinda dizzy, anyone can help me? ^^ [13:33] Hi :D [13:33] FarInTheWoods, I would notify the maintainer of the english text, ie. file a bug [13:33] FarInTheWoods: You will have to contact the maintainer of the project. [13:33] Ah, I see [13:33] Thanks then [13:33] Have a nice day [13:34] FarInTheWoods: The English text is usually found directly in the source code and must be fixed there. [13:34] Yeah [13:34] FarInTheWoods: Have a nice day, too. [13:34] ;) [13:34] :) [13:35] Oh, another thing, when I file the bug... I assign it to the package where there was the typing error, or anywhere else? (just to be sure) [13:36] FarInTheWoods: if you can file it on the upstream project, that would probably be more appropriate [13:38] An "upstream project" is like ddtp-ubuntu-main, ddtp-ubuntu-universe, ... ? [13:39] I'm new to launchpad :p [13:41] For exemple [13:42] This bug 'https://bugs.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/+bug/307074' take us to 'https://translations.launchpad.net/ddtp-ubuntu/ubuntu/+pots/ddtp-ubuntu-universe/en_CA/23916/+translate'. In this case, on what project I should assign the bug? [13:42] Launchpad bug 307074 in ddtp-ubuntu "mistype in english description" [Undecided,New] [13:46] Ok, I found, thanks anyway === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:31] Is there any way to delete a blueprint on launchpad? I can't seem to find a button or a link anywhere. [14:33] AFAIK no splodge. you have to mark it as invalid [14:33] Ok thanks [14:44] BjornT & wgrant refreshing after a 404 seems to work! it just happened again! [14:44] and the attached file of the apport-cli doesn't get lost [15:08] Is LP going to stackify mirrored branches? [15:09] Somehow? Magically? [15:24] Peng_, I'm not sure, maybe if you define a mirrored branch as focus of development [15:24] but I'm just logically guessing, not sure [15:25] don't know if it's possible, actually [15:27] That's where the magic comes in. :) [15:31] Peng_: sounds like it would make sense for imported branches. don't know about mirrored ones. i'll try to find an answer from someone who knows better [16:56] hi intellectronica [16:56] hi bac [16:57] intellectronica: as CHR please ignore email to feedback re: project sachco. those are due to me testing a script [16:57] bac: ok. thanks for letting me know [17:08] hi there [17:08] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-fa says "No translations recorded from Ubuntu Persian Translation Reviewers.". [17:08] Why the "Translations" tab doesn't show a summary about team-members' translations? [17:09] that could be very useful... [17:18] I hope someone will send a confirmation email so everyone will know for sure if they made it onto the new launchpad-users list. === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [17:57] kiko... where are you [17:59] not here [17:59] MTecknology, last time I saw kiko, he had a raging fever [18:00] so I'd expect him to be getting some rest [18:00] oh [18:00] that explains the delay in my question [18:00] I hope he gets better soon [18:00] Being sick - never fun [18:01] MTecknology, whats your question? [18:01] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/53961 [18:03] cody-somerville: Sum it up: I'm trying to use those plugins and need my trust root added to launchpad. I figured out how to use the thing, but it doesn't look like the trust root was setup right. [18:03] Rinchen, ^^ === mrevell is now known as mrevell-dinner [18:07] cody-somerville: Rinchen: Stuart Metcalfe said "Your site's [18:07] trust root should be shown at the top of the page when you attempt to [18:07] log in to launchpad." [18:07] When I try to log in I see "SD Loco RP" [18:08] Sorry for the line breaks, I'm not sure why tbird is doing that on my emails. [18:13] cody-somerville: so, is somebody going to get to it? It seems like every time somebody expresses interest they run off. Apparently my question makes people sick too. [18:14] I gotta run, I'm gonna try to sell back some books of mine - ttyal [18:17] hi === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [18:23] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/landscape-client lp > Ubuntu > “landscape-client” package [18:23] links to: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source [18:24] shouldn't it go to something about landsacpe-client? [18:24] I am trying to find a description of what landscape is, and failing... not sure whos problem that is [18:25] http://www.canonical.com/projects/landscape [18:25] https://edge.launchpad.net/landscape too :) [18:27] shouldn't there be a link from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source ? [19:24] Rinchen: thanks :) [19:25] Rinchen: Go figure I'd be the one to find a bug in something :P - I tend to break things like that. [19:25] Thanks for fixing the issue in it so fast. :D === elmo_ is now known as elmo [20:05] kiko: thanks :) [20:07] Hobbsee, ah, glad you liked it. it was my last one [20:07] kiko: :) [20:07] kiko: after wondering "why me?", yes [20:08] kiko! [20:08] * Hobbsee waves to beuno [20:08] hey hey Hobbsee [20:08] how's it going? [20:08] beuno: pretty good. Got home eventually :) [20:09] wgrant, mail me your address so I can send you one, we ran out of Ls before I found you [20:09] Hobbsee, I'm glad you did. When did you get there? [20:09] beuno: ~20 hours ago? [20:09] beuno: we only had a 10pm SF time flight, though [20:10] had an interesting time trying to get there - a fair bit of it on foot. [20:10] MTecknology, did it work? and you're welcome [20:11] Hobbsee, welcome back to IRC then :p [20:13] beuno: :P [20:13] MTecknology, unping, I see the reply in the ticket. Thanks! I'll get the docs updated [20:13] beuno: i was going to leave it, but forgot [20:13] Hobbsee, this channel would be very quiet if you did ;) [20:14] beuno: oh really now? That seems like an interesting test. [20:14] artigas needs a poke too. wonder where infinity is [20:59] <_Groo_> hi/all [20:59] <_Groo_> any lauchpad devs around? [21:00] _Groo_, all kinds of them [21:00] what can we help you with? [21:00] <_Groo_> hi beuno [21:00] <_Groo_> im assisting the kubuntu devs, and im in the process of packaging the new koffice2 beta4 [21:01] <_Groo_> unfortunatelly it appears that the ABS cant use universe packages, is that true? [21:01] ABS? [21:01] ABS? [21:01] isn't that braking technology [21:01] <_Groo_> the automated build system [21:01] <_Groo_> the PPA builder :P [21:02] <_Groo_> im a getdeb dev also, and thats how we call the builder :D [21:02] _Groo_, do you mean our PPA build system or something else? [21:02] <_Groo_> yeah, the PPA build system.. aparently he cant use universe packages, so im having a hard time compiling the koffice package [21:02] you absolutely can use universe packages [21:03] that's just plain 100% untrue. :) [21:03] next question!! [21:03] <_Groo_> kiko: so why is the ppa complaining about not found libs which ARE in universe? i already activated it to use backport [21:04] <_Groo_> can you guys check it out? [21:04] _Groo_, would have to see your build log to answer that. [21:04] <_Groo_> sure: [21:04] but your build log will tell you [21:04] <_Groo_> https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias [21:05] <_Groo_> kiko: the build logs just tell me he cant find/use the packages.. [21:05] _Groo_, o log do build em si, não o link do seu PPA [21:05] <_Groo_> kiko: brasieiro ou portugues? [21:06] <_Groo_> kiko: so um seg [21:06] sou brasileiro [21:07] <_Groo_> https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/+build/811078/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.koffice2_1.9.98.3-1ubuntu4~padoka3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [21:12] hrm. thatshould be there [21:12] <_Groo_> kiko: ? viste? [21:13] _Groo_, Hobbsee: there's something wrong with the dependencies being set for that archive. hang on. [21:13] Hobbsee, note that it only requests main packages [21:13] cprov, you still around? [21:13] kiko: good point [21:14] how odd. they used to work [21:14] padoca. me amarro nesse nome [21:15] <_Groo_> kiko: padoca.wordpress.com :) [21:16] yeah, something's broken. [21:16] I'll call cprov, wanted to call him wanyway [21:16] <_Groo_> kiko: something in the ppa or with my package? [21:16] with the PPA dependency config, I want to know how bad this is [21:17] <_Groo_> kiko: nice, so im not crazy [21:17] kiko: extremely, i'd expect. I'm surprised that this is the first lot of screaming, so it must be fairly new [21:17] Hobbsee, that's why I think it's not so bad [21:17] kiko: unless i'ts this particular buildd? [21:17] nothing's changed for the past weeks [21:17] kiko: Ah, thanks, I had wondered about that. [21:18] Hobbsee, no, it looks like we're telling it lies [21:18] * wgrant wonders if his mail is unbroken yet. [21:18] * Hobbsee borks wgrant's entire system [21:18] kiko: ah [21:18] kiko: Jaunty's doing quite a good job itself. [21:18] Er, Hobbsee^^ [21:19] hah [21:19] <_Groo_> kiko: can you fix the build system without me having to upload the entire beast again? [21:21] heh [21:21] maybe. let's see [21:21] <_Groo_> kiko: :) [21:26] <_Groo_> kiko: ? [21:33] _Groo_, Hobbsee: so interesting problem (but not a new one) [21:34] the thing is that this package is actually in main, currently [21:34] so because the ogre model is being enforced, it doesn't ask for universe dependencies [21:34] ppa obliterated ogre model long ago, though [21:34] it actually didn't [21:34] it shouldn't be being enforced. [21:34] it's just that you usually don't notice it [21:34] errr..... [21:35] <_Groo_> kiko: so how can i build this damn pakcage? [21:35] * Hobbsee is fairly sure that that's *wrong* [21:35] or if it's not, the changelogs for launchpad were wrong [21:36] _Groo_: let me adjust your dependencies to override ogre-model (the way it should be for backports) [21:36] _Groo_, the easy way is to get cprov to hack in a dependency for your PPA, but I had a quick chat with him about the ogre model and PPAs and I kinda feel like Hobbsee -- that the ogre model does more harm than help in PPAs.. [21:37] _Groo_: what's lp-name ? [21:37] <_Groo_> cprov: paulo.miguel.dias [21:37] <_Groo_> cprov: thanks btw :) [21:37] <_Groo_> where can i get more info about ogre model? and ppa building in general? the help is not very helpfull :D [21:38] the help is generally pretty complete unless you run into corner cases :) [21:38] <_Groo_> kiko: hmm ok [21:39] <_Groo_> kiko: and this is one of those corner cases :P [21:39] ogres, hmm [21:40] <_Groo_> kiko: is it fixed now? can i try rebuild the package? [21:40] _Groo_: that's not your lp name :-/ [21:40] * kiko gives _Groo_ 5 ounces of patience [21:41] <_Groo_> https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias [21:41] <_Groo_> kiko: :) [21:41] <_Groo_> cprov: sorry cprov :P [21:41] _Groo_: oh, dashes ;) [21:42] <_Groo_> cprov: yeah, sorry :( [21:43] <_Groo_> so can you guys explain to me exactly what happend to my ppa account? [21:43] <_Groo_> since koffice-kde4 exists it wasnt using universe, thats it? [21:44] it is in main in ubuntu proper [21:44] _Groo_: ppa builders are following the ogre-model for the component where koffice is published in the ubuntu primary archive (main) [21:45] cprov: why, and when was this change made? [21:45] <_Groo_> cprov: whats the ogre-model? besides being green and full of layers [21:46] _Groo_: source published in main and only build-dep on other packages in main, restricted -> main + restricted, universe -> main + universe, .. [21:46] _Groo_: main can only build against main, basically [21:46] Hobbsee: this change was made when we enabled you to include -backports or -proposed in PPAs. [21:47] <_Groo_> cprov: so i would have to rename the package koffice2-kde4 for ex? that would build against universe? [21:47] cprov: where was that decision published? [21:47] (and when was it made?) [21:48] cprov, how surprising, I dind't know that either. how long ago was that? [21:49] <_Groo_> there is this little technoloy called blogging that does wonders for this kind of info... [21:49] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/249860, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/276024 [21:49] Launchpad bug 249860 in soyuz "Expand ArchiveDependencies code/data" [High,Fix released] [21:49] cprov: That was done to remove the security special-casing? [21:49] _Groo_: launchpad used to do comprehensive user-facing changelogs. Then it stopped [21:50] Maybe you can give us back components and let us do PPA overrides now... [21:52] wgrant: getting there, the -backports case is special, it's the only case we want to explicitly override ogre-model. [21:52] cprov: In primary, yes. But in PPAs it is different... [21:52] _Groo_: can you retry your build, please [21:52] And why is IArchive.syncSource restricted to launchpad.Edit? I hope that was just a quick fix for the bug. [21:52] <_Groo_> cprov: ok, rebuilding [21:53] wgrant: PPAs only have main, or do you mean ppas build-deps from primary ? [21:53] cprov: and why do these changes require the ogre model existing again for ppas? [21:54] wgrant: it was, I have a branch with the proper fix [21:54] cprov: Wasn't the problem here that it's following ogre-model with the Ubuntu overrides in PPAs? [21:54] Note that I haven't read the whole conversation, and am still asleep. [21:54] wgrant: yes, but this is now a feature, not a bug. [21:54] cprov: With a fix for the other permissions bug too? I can hope... [21:55] wgrant: yes, everything under control [21:55] Good, good. [21:56] * wgrant is also a bit unsure that 'default' is the best name for the initial PPA, which is all that most people will have. [21:56] <_Groo_> i would love to see a better search for packages in ppas... like package.ubuntu but for ppas [21:56] _Groo_: i thought there was one [21:56] _Groo_: has it already started to build ? [21:56] Hobbsee: I think that useful changelogs are a key feature of open source software. === jaavaagu1u is now known as jaavaaguru [21:57] oojah: It's not open source, yet... [21:57] oojah: launchpad isn't open sourced. But yes, i'd agree (and do not work for the company) [21:57] Yeah yeah, you understand the point though. [21:57] I wasn't trying to dig about that. [21:58] <_Groo_> cprov: started 4 min ago.. still building.. it it passes the dependency fase it will take a while to finish :D [21:59] <_Groo_> Hobbsee: wheres that search feature? [21:59] _Groo_: and that means *issue fixed* [21:59] _Groo_: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas lets you find which PPAs have various packages. [22:00] ah yes, that. [22:00] <_Groo_> wgrant: niiiiiiiice :) [22:00] <_Groo_> wgrant: not going to ask where i could find that info :P [22:02] <_Groo_> cprov: aparently its building.. 8 min now :) [22:03] Even once launchpad is OSS, you guys still expect it to be centralized, yeah? [22:03] That is, not something that people would go around installing locally. [22:05] <_Groo_> mkanat: yeah sure.. wink wink... [22:06] <_Groo_> mkanat: i dont have ANY use for it locally.. i swear... ahn ahn.. [22:06] lol [22:06] The strength of launchpad for me is the community around it, so I'm not particularly bothered about local installs. [22:06] <_Groo_> mkanat: so, just open up the source. ill just look at it.. [22:07] Honestly, I suspect nobody would want to go to the hassle of setting it up locally, just from experience with these sorts of things... [22:07] <_Groo_> oojah: true.. i like launchy but the build system integration is too powerful to just dont use it for a internal lab for ex [22:07] Also, I highly doubt that it has the kind of installation instrumentation required for normal humans to run it elsewhere. [22:08] * wgrant is hoping that that will be a sufficient barrier. [22:08] I wouldn't be surprised if other sites pop up much like there are sourceforge installs - just very few. [22:08] how do I remove milestones ? [22:08] <_Groo_> wgrant: mkanat: so you are releasing it as open source and praying for no one to use it.. that makes sense [22:09] _Groo_: I'm not part of the "you". [22:10] <_Groo_> mkanat: so to speak.. i dont know who is who anyway :D [22:10] _Groo_: Fair enough. :-) [22:10] I do, but I figured I'd come and ask the channel instead. :-) === gord_ is now known as gord [22:13] I'm not part of the 'you' either. [22:16] kiko: Is Graham in here or should I email him if I have questions? [22:16] gmb should be here, but he's going to be long gone by now [22:16] mkanat, it's best to just ask the questions in general. [22:16] rockstar: These are very gmb-specific questions about how the external-bugtracker access stuff works. [22:17] rockstar: But I suppose other people might know. [22:17] kiko: Okay. :-) [22:17] mkanat, yea, those are pretty gmb specific, but the bugs team could probably help. [22:18] Basically, I was wondering what Launchpad uses Launchpad.count() for in the Bugzilla plugin. [22:18] wgrant, you know.. I hate default too. but what could we have instead? === sale_ is now known as sale [22:27] kiko: I don't know either... [22:29] mkanat: I am around if you want to ask me some questions. I am, however, jetlagged, so no promises about how coherent I'll be... [22:29] gmb: Hahaha, okay. [22:29] gmb: What do you use Launchpad.count() for? [22:30] gmb: I'm working on a requirements document for upstreaming the stuff that's currently in the plugin, and I don't think upstream will want a count() function, so I'm looking for what we can do that would give you what you need equivalently. [22:32] mkanat: At the moment I don't think we use it for anything. I'm not sure that losing it would be all that painful. [22:32] gmb: Ah, okay. [22:32] s/I don't think// - I just checked :) [22:32] gmb: What about the limit/offset stuff for get_bugs? [22:33] gmb: Although actually, that's not that hard. [22:33] That's something that we can do upstream. [22:34] mkanat: Right. We don't use it at present but once we start syncing whole bug reports I suspect we'll use it quite a bit. [22:34]