=== tuna-fish is now known as tuna === ThaMenace is now known as Menacemonster [00:29] Hey [00:29] Can anyone help me with an install ? [00:30] i'm kinda a newb lol [00:31] is anyone here ? [00:33] hi is anyone here ? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [01:18] Enter text here...hello has anyone seen vidd? === danopia_ is now known as danopia === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [03:52] in the networkmanager applet: how do I make it see my mobile phone as "broadband connection"? [03:52] *mobile broadband [06:06] what version of xubutnu do you recommend [06:06] i heard ibex isnt that stable [06:06] intrepid ibex* [06:10] i also need help chosing which version [06:11] choosing [06:11] its a athlon [06:11] i want 64-bit i believe [07:05] i need help [07:06] on the alternate installation cd is it the cd ONLY that requires 64MB of ram or the install afterwards too? === leche_y_galletas is now known as leche === s is now known as Guest78504 === Typhoon is now known as VorteX === VorteX is now known as CapTech === sinbox is now known as erron [17:06] Hey, I lost my panels and don't know how to get them back on xfce ... I went into xfce setting manager -> panel but nothing appear is it normal ? [17:06] nat2610, open a terminal and type xfce4-panels [17:07] xfce4-panel (no trailing "s") [17:08] vidd, cool it's back [17:08] do I have to do something else now ? or at the next boot it will be still there ? [17:09] make sure you save your session when you exit [17:09] or, remove all your saved sessions =] [17:09] * vidd hates the "save session" being auto selected [17:10] where do you save your session [17:10] ? [17:10] * vidd doesnt [17:10] because I just closed the term even if I run xfce4-panel & it still close the process if I close the termnial [17:11] nat2610: run it like this: xfce4-panel > /dev/null 2>&1 & [17:12] dcolish, sweet [17:14] cool it's working well now ... I restarted ... and the panel where still their thanks for your help [17:14] s/their/there [17:15] not a problem [17:52] is there a i636 version of ubuntu? [17:52] xubuntu* [18:06] i636 is i386 === djbushdio is now known as djbushido_ === djbushido_ is now known as djbushido [19:29] ok, i am trying to install xubuntu on a system, GRUB or LILO won't install, should i select the option continue without bootloader? [19:31] nintendork32, no [19:31] why does it not install grub? [19:31] .oO( antivirus protection of boot sector in BIOS? ) [19:32] vidd: it says there is an error [19:32] what does the error say? [19:32] idk [19:32] brb let me see [19:34] okay, it says GRUB could not install to /target/, without the GRUB bootloader the system will not boot [19:35] vidd:^^ [19:36] vidd LILO has error code -1 [19:36] nintendork32, how much hd space ya got? and what type of installer are you using?? [19:36] vidd: i think maybe 20GB and using alternate [19:37] did you manually configure partitions, use the entire drive, or make room? [19:37] i did the "use entire disk space" [19:38] ok...how much room was on that disk space? [19:38] Questio for experts: do you know whether xUbuntu, once installed on hardisk, preserves the automatic hardware configuration? that is, does the livecd behaviour remain unchanged after it's installed on hd? [19:38] vidd: 20GB [19:39] ill also ask on #grub [19:39] l_r, no [19:39] l_r, you want the alt cd if you need to pass configurations to your kernel [19:39] nintendork32, go back to the partitions.... [19:40] i want to know what your partition table looks like [19:40] let me ask on grub first [19:40] brb [19:41] fine...i wont help [19:41] ok what tables should i have [19:41] they wont be able to either [19:41] O..o [19:41] come on,,,, [19:41] the issue is a "cant write" error...noty a grub configuration error [19:41] ok what should i do? [19:42] what should the table look like? [19:42] tell it to not continue so you get knocked into the menu [19:42] ok im already there [19:42] go to the "partitioning" section [19:42] ok [19:42] click the "manual" [19:43] ok [19:43] tell me waht partitions are here and how big they are [19:43] ok brb [19:45] ok it has sda1 as ext3 [19:45] it has sda2 as swap [19:45] oh sda1 is logical [19:45] * vidd notices that no sizes were mentiond] [19:45] oh [19:45] brb [19:46] sda1 is 19.7GB [19:47] does it have the -b on that line? [19:47] uhm how would it look? [19:47] 19.7GB -b? [19:48] something like that....i dont have that screen up myself [19:49] 19.7GB B F ext3 [19:49] thats how it looks [19:49] so it does have the -b option [19:49] good [19:49] how large is swap? [19:49] the rest of 20AGB [19:49] 20GB* [19:50] which is about 325GB [19:50] 325MB* [19:50] HOW LARGE IS SWAP according to the partitioner? [19:50] this isnt rocket science! [19:50] about 325MB brb let me see the exact [19:51] 370.1MB [19:52] what kind of system are you installing on? (hp, compaq, emachine, gateway) and how old is the bios? [19:52] a old windows ME compaq [19:52] ok..... [19:52] with 125MB of ram [19:52] you have a setting in the bios for "antivirus" [19:53] you need to disable it [19:53] idk how? [19:53] basically, it is protecting the Master Boot Record [19:53] so go to the setup? [19:53] you restart the machine and enter the bios [19:53] ok [19:54] find the setting in there that says something along the line of "protect MBR" or "prevent overwriting" or some such stuff [19:55] 'round the time of Win ME was when boot-sector viruses were prevelant [19:55] compaq, dell, and gateway added "dont remove M$" code into the bioses of most of thier machines [19:56] ok [19:56] unfortunantly, you will have to re-do your install [19:57] you *MIGHT* be able to get back to the install menu and skip ahead to the "install bootloader" section....but dont hold your breath =] [19:58] i cant find the section [19:59] what category would it be? [19:59] security just has something to set up a password [19:59] hi [19:59] hi opensteb [19:59] openstep* [19:59] vidd: any ideas? [20:00] are you devs here? [20:00] I would need some help with xfce [20:00] i can code some, but this isnt the channel for it [20:00] openstep, what help? [20:01] Well I am about to deploy an LTSP setup in a school and would like to [20:01] use XFCE as desktop. [20:01] What I would like to do is to make a unified setup for all users, so [20:01] when they mess it up at the next login they get it back the default [20:01] one. [20:01] I looked around the [20:01] http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session#xfsm-kiosk-mode, [20:01] but the is not enough. [20:01] nintendork32, i would recomend googling the bios of the system for the settings.....there are so many [20:01] my computer model? [20:01] nintendork32, yes [20:03] openstep, the entire point of a ltsp set-up is so that your desktop does NOT get overwritten on logout [20:03] * nintendork32 looks for "presario" [20:03] nintendork32, presario-what? [20:03] speacial edition, my model [20:04] I am aware of it [20:04] but still that is what I need [20:05] like a kiosk [20:05] openstep, i would not be the one to ask =[ [20:08] thanks :) [20:08] see you [20:09] * nintendork32 cant find anything [20:09] nintendork32, what does it say the bios is? [20:10] or, what model is your compaq? [20:10] it just has the compaq logo and i started pressing all of the f4's then the setup came up\ [20:10] presario speacial edition [20:11] there should be a modle number..... [20:11] is this a laptop or a desktop? [20:11] or you mean techy name lik Q-6G4J7H6 [20:11] desktop [20:11] yeah...the modle # [20:11] ok [20:11] brb [20:13] 470004-759 US [20:14] 7000 series [20:15] please bare with me....... [20:17] ? [20:17] what? [20:17] ok....what bios options do you have? [20:17] * nintendork32 sighs [20:17] idk [20:17] this is getting tiring [20:17] that computer is in the basement, this one is upstairs.... [20:18] * nintendork32 runs down the stairs [20:18] why not have them side-by-side? [20:19] i have Main, storage, security, advanced [20:19] security just has passwords though [20:19] asks to set one [20:19] advanced.... [20:20] ok [20:22] pci, bus, device stuff [20:22] and this safe boot and power thing [20:22] safe boot needs to be off [20:22] ok [20:24] actually that says "Power on self test" [20:24] forgot them [20:24] and some power loss thing [20:25] no...thats not is [20:26] so what else should i choose? [20:27] one of these pages has something about "boot security" or "hard drive security" or "antivirus" or something like that [20:30] i havent had one of these systems in forever...so i dont know exactly where in the bios it is, or what the exact verbage is [20:31] but there is some kind of hard drive "security" which wont let anything write to the boot secter....which is where grub needs to be [20:33] there isnt ANYTHING about it [20:34] i looked [20:34] think i should try GRUB again? [20:35] you would need to redo the entire install again [20:35] try doing the cli-only install [20:35] (only because its faster) [20:36] you can sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop once it successfully boots [20:37] screw it [20:37] i give up [20:38] nintendork32, the issue is one of 2 things..... [20:38] what? [20:38] based on the age of the machine, i would suspect that the bios has some "write protect" setting..... [20:38] the other is a damaged or full HD [20:39] i bet damage [20:39] unfortunantly, i cant find the security setting [20:39] hard drive has been messed up [20:39] nintendork32, did windows work? [20:39] got the bsod [20:39] was on the internet with NOTHING attached [20:39] hrm...then perhaps, you should low-lvl format it [20:40] before [20:40] no wifi card even [20:40] its all messed up [20:40] ill probably grab a new hdd [20:41] if a new HDD installs without issue, then it was a bad hd.... [20:41] what you can try.... [20:41] set up the partitioning as follows: [20:42] delete are partitions [20:42] nah [20:42] i give up [20:51] I want a xinitrc file [20:52] Anyone know where I can find one I haven't hacked to pieces? [20:53] And DON'T accuse me of flooding or spamming [20:53] I'm just asking a simple question [20:54] #>:o [20:54] Mark__1, the easiest way to get a "fresh" on is to simply delete the one you have....a new once should get written for you when you log in again [20:55] The one in /etc/etc and the one in my home folder? [20:55] Mark__1, you hacked up the one in /etc? [20:55] Yeah :( [20:55] I was trying to get lxde to run from slim :( [20:55] ok...that makes it slightly more difficult.... [20:56] Oh dear :( [20:56] only slightly....=] [20:56] Phew [20:56] first, remove both files..... [20:56] Okay. Lemme do that now [20:56] then kill slim [20:57] then sudo apt-get remove --purge slim && sudo apt-get install slim [20:57] however....i personally recommend just using gdm with lxde [20:59] if you autoremove --purge xorg, then you can apt-get install lxde, reboot, and enjoy [20:59] a severly hacked-down lxde is in the default repos [20:59] I need to log out of the session first, don't I ;) [21:00] you will....but let me give you all the info you need first [21:00] Isn't xorg the display manager? [21:00] K [21:00] will you be trashing all your xorg and doing the default *buntu lxde? [21:00] no...xorg is what the manager runs on [21:01] I'd like to keep everything I have but be able to log into an lxde session with slim [21:01] =] its a level or two below the manager [21:01] GDM just seems a bit heavy for it [21:02] then just log out, kill slim, and from terminal run "sudo apt-get remove --purge slim && sudo apt-get install slim" [21:02] K [21:02] *from tty* [21:02] See you later [21:02] please keep one thing in mind.... [21:02] Yes? [21:03] you MUST have HAL installed in order for the keyboard and mouse to work [21:03] I do [21:03] also, you will need to edit your slim.conf file [21:03] Can we talk about that when I get back? [21:04] by defualt, alot of your PATH's are missing [21:04] i want to make sure you GET back =] [21:04] :) [21:04] So what do I need to put in slim.conf? [21:04] we can discuss that later..... [21:05] but for now..... [21:05] you will want to open stuff via the terminal.... [21:05] Yeah [21:05] I hope the terminal remembers all this [21:05] so this way, you will get "/sbin/blah, blah, blah, is not in your PATH.....instead of the app just not opening [21:06] if you get something like that, then add the full path (like /sbin/xchat) [21:06] to launch the app [21:07] =] [21:07] Okay [21:07] simple stuff..... [21:07] see ya on the flip-side [21:07] =] [21:07] Bye for now [21:09] is there a way to create my own "user interface theme"? [21:12] I just remembered. I'm not using slim right now so I don't need to log out [21:15] Drat. The logs end at 9:01pm [21:19] Oh well. Here goes [21:36] is there a way to create my own "user interface" theme? [21:36] R1cochet, yes...there is [21:43] thank you vidd [21:43] how would i go about it? [21:43] no idea [21:43] £ãugh¡ñg Òut £öuÐ cool thank you [21:44] but in linux EVERYTHING is customizable [21:45] and stable :) [22:31] hey! [22:31] i have xubuntu 8.04 on my computer... i'm missing /sbin/init so it boots me into busybox... can anyone be kind and tel me what that file should contain so i will add that (somehow) ? [22:33] medfly: it boots into busybox because it fails to mount your hard disk as / [22:33] oh... [22:33] medfly: run 'mount' to see that it's not mounted [22:33] medfly: run 'dmesg' to see why [22:34] okay.. hmm... [22:35] well, i don't see anything special on dmegs, but it its not mounted. [22:41] is there anything special about this install? [22:41] did you for example install it on a different box, and replace the hdd? [22:41] well, it worked before [22:41] and... i uninstalled a bunch of stuff, that may have been a bad idea to uninstall... [22:41] before what exactly? [22:42] ah [22:42] a few hours later it had some trouble, so i restarted it, and it just went to busybox. [22:42] you can try pressing esc at boot and trying an older kernel [22:42] oh, i did try that, but it had the same outcome. [22:43] it does say something about /sbin/init. i told it not to be quiet and tell me about its troubles ;) [22:43] then I guess you have to boot it from cd, mount your / partition, chroot into it and install the missing package [22:43] oh... [22:44] wait [22:44] maybe you will be able to just mount / [22:44] from busybox [22:45] oh... well, i tried, but i only have console on /dev [22:46] haha. i got what i thought is an empty cd to burn onto, and it has xubuntu on it! [22:46] * medfly tries that :) [22:55] that was a pleasant surprise, but it didn't work. [22:55] getting the package [22:56] i am going to just try to install it again :) === brad_ is now known as paragon === paragon is now known as paragonxx9 [23:35] How to enter mode where I can manually enter type of monitor and max refresh rate etc?