[00:04] LjL: I've just been asked is it possilbe to hide the /ban list on a channel to non-priviled users [00:04] or anyone for that matter out of interest [00:05] only one question comes to mind [00:05] why should it be hidden? [00:05] don't know ?? [00:06] it was just a question I've been asked [00:21] ikonia: no - it's a channel mode list set by the server. It's not hideable unless coded that way in the IRCD [00:25] ikonia: no. you can, on the other hand, ban *everyone* and set +e's for the ones who can join - e's are hidden. [00:47] LjL: no they aren't [00:48] oh, you need to be an op... my bad [00:56] @bansearch Narcissus [00:56] Match: *!*@freebsd-shell.net!#ubuntu-ops by LjL in #ubuntu-offtopic on Nov 17 2008 23:43:34 (ID: 6951) [00:56] Match: *!*@freebsd-shell.net!#ubuntu-ops by ikonia in #ubuntu on Nov 17 2008 23:14:19 (ID: 6945) [00:56] Anyone know why im banned from #ubuntu or #ubuntu-topic ? [00:58] !give LjL randomness [00:58] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:58] * Narcissus gives PriceChild a rugby ball [01:00] The above. [01:01] What? What [01:01] What's wrong with that? [01:03] "self" is posting spam in #ubuntu [01:05] he's in a few places... lemme take a look [01:14] Narcissus: scripts like that are easily abused and I think you were banned because of this. [01:17] and if I remove them I will gain entry back to the channel(s) in which I am banned? [01:20] 1226971089 1118T011809 < ras0ir> !ubuntu [01:20] 1226971091 1118T011811 < phrik> Ewww! Wipe that ubuntu off your shoes before it gets all over the carpet! [01:20] ahh loving it [01:20] Narcissus: I don't think there's any reason why I wouldn't. [01:21] Okay, give me a second to unload them [01:22] Done PriceChild [01:23] Narcissus: Done, play nice :) [01:23] Thanks PriceChild [01:42] woo, I coded php for the first time in... [01:42] three years. [01:46] Myrtti: was it everything you expected it would be? [01:47] it actually was exactly the same stuff I coded three years ago. [01:49] anyway, it works. [01:49] I haz a mobile start page now. [01:49] and all it took was register_globals [01:50] http://myrtti.fi/m/ [01:50] ♥ woo \o/ [01:53] elo elo === vorian is now known as heHATEme [01:54] Myrtti: Nice :) === heHATEme is now known as vorian [02:57] i'm winning the war on pants! [03:03] * jrib doesn't ask [03:05] i told my girlfriend i was a massive studcake. [03:06] as in all wars, in the war on pants the first casualty is the truth. [03:06] did she have a massive stroke? [03:06] urgh, horrible puns [03:06] please stop [03:06] *cry* [03:07] now normally I'd assume such puns are unintentional... but this place is exceptional. [03:07] * jrib DID NOT ask [03:07] even if the people aren't. [03:07] puns are the only human source of humor; all jokes are implanted by aliens [03:08] actually, that's not quite true [03:08] nickrud: I'd argue feghoots are terrestrial as well. [03:08] hm, I think the jury is out on that one [03:09] night [03:09] actually that's the premise of a pretty good science fiction short story I read once; the aliens went away and iirc everyone ended up killing themselves [03:14] nickrud: sources.list.d considered harmful [03:14] since when? [03:14] Not officially, unfortunately. [03:15] But, its the most annoying thing in the world [03:15] I do like not altering provided configs, and find the *.d debian concept elegant [03:16] Except when you have to explain to people that they need to pastebin their sources.list, *and* all the stuff in .d [03:16] it *ought* to be that .d gets collected and compiled into sources.list, like grub [03:17] but, thats just me. I don't see a point of obfuscating your sources.list [03:18] that would be kinda nice, have it show up in /var somewhere [03:18] concept is to allow other packages to add functionality without altering another packages file, which is a no no. [03:19] Yes, except sources.list isn't in a package [03:19] plus it gets around doing checking diffs during a package upgrade, comparing maintainer's file with any alterations you've made. [03:20] eh, doing or checking, but not both I guess [03:20] sources.list belongs to no packages, so it wont ever have that issue. [03:20] true. [03:23] maybe a factoid, !showmeyoursources with a copy & paste command line, like cat /etc/apt/sources.list > list ; cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* >> list [03:23] nickrud: you want a photo of my parents? [03:24] mneptok, are you sure they don't mind being outed? [03:24] but sure, I'll bite [03:25] nickrud: !showmeyoursources ? [03:25] I'm not very original [03:25] either you want a photo of my parents, or this is first year journalism school ;) [03:25] and I have to have things beat into my head sometimes. DOH [03:53] Hobbsee: your cinnamon roll is showing in -motu [04:05] @bansearch apeiron [04:05] No matches found for apeiron!n=apeiron@c-76-124-253-149.hsd1.pa.comcast.net in any channel [05:07] hola gente [05:07] he sido baneado en ubuntu-es [05:07] por un bot.. [05:07] que dice que estoy haciendo flood... [05:07] alguien me puede ayudar? [05:08] danroj: #ubuntu-irc is the place for LoCo channel stuff [05:08] danroj: /join #ubuntu-irc [05:08] ... === danroj is now known as judas === judas is now known as danroj [06:00] In #ubuntu, codesmith said: !tritum, there is a question, when I execute apt-get update [06:14] nalioth: not nice to ban evade, sheesh. [06:16] Hi Edder_, how can we help you? [06:16] oops wrong channel [06:23] Flannel: ? [06:23] nalioth: floodbots seem to think you're banned somewhere: 22:10 <+FloodBot1> -WARNING: nalioth!nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth may be evading the ban on nalioth!i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth [06:27] interesting [06:27] i think they're whacked [07:02] heh [07:23] btlogin [07:23] @btlogin [07:44] sounds like hackintosh not a real apple computer [07:45] good point [07:45] he is saying he deleted refit and booting from grub; that does not make sense, esp. as he claims booting holding down c, option or t do not work (which all work on Macs) [07:46] yes [07:47] either that, or its a troll. [07:48] or both [07:49] bazhang: nice, I was going for the cpu [07:50] ikonia, he claims the livecd works but os X cd does not, sounds very fishy :) [07:50] very [07:50] * ikonia waits to see amd cpu ;) [07:50] hehe [07:51] has anyone tried the 64bit flash? [07:51] * elkbuntu lacks a pc of that architecture [07:52] heard people in -ot talking about it, dont have the 64 bit os running so have not tried it myself [07:52] elkbuntu: did a base install, nothing to write home about yet [07:52] hmmm the new macs come with nvidia cards don't they ? [07:54] http://www.apple.com/uk/macbook/ [07:54] yes the new macbooks come with nvidia cards [08:01] all of a sudden troubled knows about strace [08:01] and other reasonably advanced commands [08:01] * ikonia smells troll [08:57] hello holycow [08:57] how can we help you today [08:58] oops, holymoo [08:58] no, that isn't right [08:58] MOIN GibbaTheHutt [08:58] moin everyone [09:00] morning [09:02] * GibbaTheHutt finds this channel more mellow than #ubuntu :) [09:02] GibbaTheHutt: did you have anything else than a social call? [09:03] ah I was forwarded here because I had a !give as part of my xchat so was hoofed out, I "think" I've disabled it, but need it tested before I'm safe to go out in the wild :) [09:04] !give [09:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about give [09:04] * GibbaTheHutt gives Myrtti [09:04] WRONG [09:04] bah, still enabled [09:04] try again [09:04] how bizarre [09:08] I don't suppose (apologies for this!)... [09:08] have disabled it, now have tried editing the perl :) [09:08] no problem if can't test it, will get someone to when alive [09:09] !give [09:09] Sorry, I don't know anything about give [09:09] rah think thats done it, thanks [09:10] before I remove the ban [09:10] apologies for the annoyance :) [09:10] could you explain one thing [09:10] or actually two [09:10] a) where did you get this script b) what made you run it in #ubuntu [09:12] was uberscript, and I can't remember, I think it was some feature of multiple servers that xchat didn't do (does do them I know), was a very long time ago [09:14] I hope you've learned your lesson about those scripts? [09:16] hm probably not tbh [09:16] don't run them if you don't know extensively what they do [09:17] especially on crowded channels like #ubuntu [09:17] yep, that I know, tbh I didn't realise anyone used !give [09:17] otherwise would have disabled it better in first placve [09:18] but yeah I can understand the issues with that np [09:19] you've been unbanned few minutes ago and can rejoin #ubuntu again [09:19] thanks, and sorry for taking time up :) [09:27] hmmm [09:27] http://sample.org.uk/blog/?action=post&post=firefox_security_overhaul [09:30] * Myrtti sets up a master password [10:18] can someone help me i can't get into #ubuntu :( [10:18] one moment [10:19] np thank you [10:19] elkbuntu: looks like you wher vitims of a dcc exploit [10:19] elkbuntu: sorry [10:19] EvolutionXtinct: looks like you where the victim of an exploit [10:20] how do i go about plugging that one! [10:20] EvolutionXtinct: if you type "/topic" in the channel you have been forwarded to it should give you instructions on what to do [10:20] no it was saying missing parameters [10:20] EvolutionXtinct: dont use the "" [10:21] just type /topic [10:21] i did [10:21] TOPIC Not enough parameters [10:21] EvolutionXtinct: it works here fine [10:22] i use mIRC [10:22] not sure if that matters [10:22] EvolutionXtinct: maybe try /t [10:22] EvolutionXtinct: its a freenode thing AFAIK so any client should work [10:23] T Unknown command [10:23] whats the link and i'll plug the exploit :( [10:23] ikonia: i dont see anything in topic that will direct him/her to DCC exploit info [10:23] EvolutionXtinct: are you using lower case letters [10:24] yes [10:24] mIRC for some reason puts the output in uppercase of the command [10:24] Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX it (yes, it can be fixed) 2) after carrying out those instructions please type « test me » and wait few minutes | if this fails, type « /join #ubuntu-ops » to be tested manually [10:24] thats from the topic in #ubuntu-read-topic [10:24] EvolutionXtinct: you might want to ask in #freenode maybe [10:24] EvolutionXtinct: please follow the instructions I have provided in #ubuntu-read-topic [10:24] ikonia thank you [10:24] no problem [10:25] * gnomefreak goes back to look for bug [10:26] EvolutionXtinct: if there's nothign else you need, you can leave the channel and follow the test instructions I gave you [10:27] k sorry [10:31] mirc is a dodgy bit of muck [10:31] is that an official quote [10:33] i'm tempted to say yes, but no. [10:38] I'll take that as a yes then [10:53] is the bot still wrong. re:-meeting? [10:54] no idea [11:06] seems not [11:07] there is the rumblings of meeting in -meeting [11:07] hi hi kids [11:10] elkbuntu: detail please [11:11] CC meeting [11:11] oh [11:11] may stick my eyeballs open [11:11] asia/oceania board will be pleaing to be expanded, so as we can cover the hemisphere we're charged with. [11:12] the power fight begins [11:12] not really [11:33] I swear to Gaia, one day ASUS-tek will make my head explode [11:34] just remove him [11:34] he adds nothing of value, and is just a pain [11:34] I see no value in him being in the channel [11:35] unfortunately stupidity and denseness is not a capital crime [11:35] having said that... [11:36] Myrtti, except he annoys the bejeebus out of more than just you [11:36] he annoys everyone [11:36] [13:35] ~~~Irssi: Query started with ASUS-tek in window 21 [11:36] *sigh* [11:37] ikonia: I have no problems with someone else removing him - I myself can't do it as he hasn't particularly broken any rules that I know of [11:37] people should be able to use ignore, anyway. [11:38] not that we are allowed to, but you know. [11:38] I would have removed him long ago. icesword as well. [11:38] there is endearing, and there is creepy, and that line has been breeched [11:39] the thing is, if I'd remove him, I wouldn't know how to explain it to him [11:39] I've tried to explain the social codes too many times [11:39] shouldn [11:39] oops [11:39] if I can't explain my actions, I don't act [11:39] shouldnt be on you. [12:23] Christmas outdoor lights ♥ [12:23] my fingers are freezing [12:24] heh [12:26] hmm, first day below freezing today [12:26] was cold this morning my end too [12:27] i wanted to run, I wonder if I'll be up for it still [12:27] bellow freezing....not for me [12:28] my new neighbors below me must have their heat really high as I don't have the heat on and it's still pretty warm in my place [12:30] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3041015948/ [12:32] In ubottu, joaopinto said: !java=~ /sun-java6-jre//openjdk-6-jre/ [12:33] !java [12:33] To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository [12:33] !info sun-java6-jre [12:33] sun-java6-jre (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-10-0ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 6213 kB, installed size 14232 kB [12:33] !info openjdk-6-jre [12:34] openjdk-6-jre (source: openjdk-6): OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot JIT. In component main, is extra. Version 6b12-0ubuntu6 (intrepid), package size 224 kB, installed size 740 kB [12:36] doesn't seem to be same thing for me... [12:36] though, I'm known to be extensively wrong. [12:37] openjdk is open source and is in Main. sun-java-6 is not. [12:38] Myrtti: ^ [12:38] Myrtti, http://elkbuntu.net/i_set_up_my_xmas_tree_already.jpg [12:39] Pici: yes, but if they're not the same thing, and people *need* Sun... [12:39] that's the e71 camera btw [12:40] Myrtti: Methinks that like many open source replacements for complicated proprietary apps *cough*flash*cough* it probably can't be a full replacement. [12:40] Pici: yes, and that's exactly why that proposition of joaopinto shouldn't be applied blindly. [12:41] Myrtti: Agreed. [12:42] * elkbuntu feelz ignoored. [12:42] elkbuntu: USB powered? [12:42] Pici, yeah [12:42] NEat [12:42] elkbuntu: wooo [12:42] that's neat. [12:42] hehe, it cost $3 [12:46] is it just me, or is spam back to its normal rate again already [12:48] e-mail spam? [12:50] ya [12:50] It's just you. [12:50] Pici: it would be lovely if swfdec and/or gnash could handle vimeo etc. but as they don't, I like that the proprietary vendor does love us a bit. [12:50] from the developer blog I read that 64-bit flash is the most asked feature for Linux, and also that it was first shipped for Linux, with no set date to launch it for Windows or Mac yet. [12:51] we Linuxists are happy bunch, if we get the library, we manage to install it. Windows folks need installers. [12:51] haha [12:51] made with InstallShield or some other junk. [12:51] *grumble* [12:52] Myrtti: That was nice indeed. Its too bad that the open source alternatives cannot handle the more pervasive online applications, otherwise we'd be able to recommend them more often. [12:52] Myrtti: then why don't you go install VXL and manage to make OpenGazer run with it for me ;P [12:52] since apparently i'm not part of the happy bunch given i've been trying to get that stuff working for a month [12:52] too bad the 64bit crashes my browser :/ [12:53] *flash* [12:53] *slow shutter speed* [12:55] Myrtti, i think this is the nicest bright pink theme i've seen... http://www.babinokia.com/2006/12/21/pink_seaflower-by-babi/ [12:55] oh jesus, i thought we couldn't get much lower than the ubuntu brown [12:56] LjL, hehe [12:56] elkbuntu: http://www.pizero.net/wp-content/gallery/theme-gallery/theme3/kittys.jpg [12:56] also that's... violet, more than bright pink [12:56] http://www.pizero.net/theme-gallery [12:57] the fellow who made the theme is italian, perhaps not too surprisingly [12:57] Myrtti, that's the cutest [12:57] O [12:57] I bet those aren't compatible with e71 though :-< [12:58] http://www.babinokia.com/2006/12/25/207/ [13:00] http://www.babinokia.com/2006/11/26/tux-love-by-babi/ <-- awww [13:06] [14:05:31] i thought apache was just included in all distrobutions today by default? [13:06] is this enough evidence of drug use to kick? [13:07] lol [13:19] Myrtti, is zedge.net safe? [13:19] I used it with my 6623, seems to be [13:25] elkbuntu: I found few more gems for you [13:25] conversation of Nokia [13:26] what else... [13:26] conversion of nokia? [13:27] conversation [13:28] ah, tired, sorry [13:28] http://www.nokia.com/A4568203 [13:29] also enhanced calculator (http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/calculator) or calcium (http://mtvoid.com/calcium/index.html) [13:29] joikuspot [13:32] Download both files into same directory on your PC and install using your PC Suite <-- ehwhat? [13:33] jrib, or for that matter anyone: i've wondered a few times... if you just want to build a source package when you fetch it, apt-get has the "--build" option, which just builds it, without requiring anything built the build-deps afaik. on the other hand, if you want to modify and *then* build, !source mentions using dpkg-buildpackage with fakeroot, and i've seen a plethora of other possibilities mentioned [13:33] just what does apt-get --build do? [13:33] elkbuntu: on what app? [13:33] elkbuntu: oh [13:33] bull [13:33] I just download the jar only and install [13:34] LjL: beats me [13:34] oooo [13:34] new share online! [13:34] http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/shareonline [13:34] my nose starts to tickle [13:35] oh, bummer. [13:35] Share Online 4.0 beta is an update to version 3.1 that is currently shipping in several Nokia devices running S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2 like 6220 Classic, 5320 XpressMusic, N78, N79, N85 and N96. [13:36] that's pre-installed on this phone [13:37] i wasnt aware of the economic sharing option [13:37] * elkbuntu tries to find it [13:37] aktually, i'll do that tomorrow [13:37] elkbuntu: share online was preinstalled on this phone too, but older version [13:37] Tue Nov 18 13:37:47 UTC 2008 [13:38] Wed Nov 19 00:38:14 EST 2008 [13:38] too [13:38] and i leave for work 0750 most mornings. [13:39] ninite [13:40] nini dear [13:40] Goodnight! [13:41] woo [13:41] Nokia Audiobook manager works in wine [14:08] elkbuntu: what are you syning your calander against [14:08] syncing [14:08] oh, shes gone to bed [14:09] I guess I should share my syncml settings [14:10] what do you sync against [14:10] I've got a cronjob that syncs my calendar to google three times a day and makes a backup of contacts, calendar and notes to the server once a week [14:10] that would work [14:10] maybe [14:11] Myrtti: what is your desktop calander applications ? [14:11] orage, I don't use it for anything else than viewing the entries [14:12] all editing in phone and/or gcal [14:12] Hmm I use sunbird, [14:12] research research research [14:12] I'll blog about that anyway [14:12] you might get some pointers [14:13] please do [14:47] COFFEE [14:47] coffee is the word. [14:47] yes. [14:48] mum is the word [14:49] greese is the word [15:05] is there a way to niftily check which ... oh, nvm. [15:05] synaptic [15:05] yes [15:06] doh [15:06] I don't have synaptic on my server [15:06] is there a nifty way to check on command line / aptitude which software are installed from repository foo? [15:07] hmm [15:07] I've got a PPA that I know I've installed software from [15:08] but I'm not sure what [15:08] Myrtti: aptitude can tell you the origin, but that's not the same as the repository [15:08] * Myrtti checks [15:08] Myrtti: but if you still have the repository in your sources.list, then it's relatively easy to do [15:08] apt-cache policy does though [15:09] Pici: not if the repository is not there anymore [15:09] LjL: Are you sure? [15:09] Pici: quite [15:09] well it is in sources.list.d/multisync.list ... [15:09] LjL: Okay then [15:09] but [15:09] Myrtti: then apt-cache policy will do it [15:10] so there's a reverse for apt-cache policy ? [15:10] apt-cache policy or something? [15:10] Myrtti: moment [15:10] Myrtti: dpkg -l | grep "^ii" | awk ' { print $2 } ' | xargs -n 1 apt-cache policy | grep -B 5 repositoryname [15:10] oo [15:11] will take a while [15:15] Myrtti: actually make that "-n 1" some larger number, it'll speed it up considerably [15:16] 500 works here [15:22] oh my gawd. [15:22] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3041299422/sizes/l/ [15:22] I feel almost like a pro photographer even with my crappy N95 [15:28] Myrtti: the N95 isn't "crappy" when it comes to photography... for a phone camera it has one of the best cams I've seen to date. [15:28] not to mention that level of quality 5 years ago was considered a premium-model digital camera :D [15:30] those pictures that I just took make me cry. I wouldn't have thought having spent three years in arts/crafts evening classes would have had this much effect. But I bet not that many know how to take pictures of that quality in pitch black with a goddamn N95 [15:30] I know the settings and know what they mean. [15:31] and I can also use them, not just point and click with automated pointandclick settings. [15:31] was it three... or four... [15:31] hm [15:36] looking at that output it looks as if only msync-tools is installed from a ppa [15:39] ikonia: http://ping.fm/I5WZ0 [15:39] cutekeys is also on the buzz [15:40] http://gerrymoth.jaiku.com/presence/49157084 [15:40] I just love Jaiku, have I mentioned that before? [15:41] I have. [15:53] Myrtti: reading..... [15:54] Network Timeout [15:54] The server at jaiku.com is taking too long to respond. [15:54] bwah. === SLsFIinE is now known as LjL [16:11] Why does ubottu's sound factoid still recommend ALSA usage? It should recommend how to fix pulse, not to replace it with alsa itself... [16:12]