[00:55] hmm seems to work [00:56] why shouldnt it ? :) [01:33] ogra, I was testing a CD image [01:34] so that was kde in kvm [01:34] ah [01:34] well, umpc is good for release [02:09] Hmmm. My -mid install is behaving wierd [02:10] how ? [02:11] "client 1 rejected from local host" [02:11] xorg ? [02:11] i didnt have that [02:12] did you break your .Xauthority or /etc/hosts ? [02:12] (I had similar issues when NM went crazy and rewrote my hosts file) [02:12] it doesnt do that anymore though [02:13] indeed [02:14] Hmm [02:14] Let me boot it again [02:14] was that in the livefs ? [02:14] No, the installed system [02:18] /etc/hosts looks fine [02:18] I didn't touch .Xauthority [02:18] still the error ? [02:19] Right [02:19] bah [02:20] whats the falout of that error ? do you get the desktop ? [02:20] Nope [02:20] Just the X cursor [02:24] weird [02:24] it defintely worked for me [02:24] On an installed system? [02:24] as well as for loic [02:24] ye [02:24] s [02:25] I'm happy to put it down to me doing something dumb and trying again [02:39] StevenK, let me know your results when you retest [02:40] davidm: Shall do. Finding lunch first. [04:22] StevenK, status? [04:25] davidm: Watching the install [04:25] OK [04:34] davidm: Reproducable on second install. :-( [04:36] StevenK, what is different for you? [04:36] davidm: I'm not sure -- I went through the install like usual [04:36] I'm confused why you have issues and lool and ogra did not [04:37] As am I [04:37] Try and debug and keep me posted [04:46] davidm: Right. Setting tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sda1 and rebooting helped. [04:47] davidm: Which is just a fault of the device I'm installing on having so little drive space. [04:50] Ah [04:50] df -h [04:51] davidm: Before the tune2fs, available was 0 [04:51] Ah, tht could be the problem then [04:52] Right. So, setting the reserved percentage to 0% gave 70 odd MB free and after a reboot, X worked [04:58] did we have a howto to convert the USB image to a iso image? [04:59] I'm not sure that we can do that. [05:00] Ah, OK. Seems like it should be possible but maybe not tonight [05:01] It's probably doable, we just don't provide tools or a howto [05:48] is release date for ubuntu-mobile same as ubuntu ? [05:49] ... and wtf is ubuntu-umpc lol [05:55] pururu: a version of ubuntu mobiile for things like eee [05:57] wow cool, is it optimized for SSD by default? (like disabling logging to ssd and such) [05:58] and mounting ext2 with noatime [05:58] also midbrowser shoulbe replaced with firefox [05:59] imho [06:00] mmm... and how netbook remix mix into these distros? lol [06:14] netbook remix is a canonical thingy, not an ubuntu one [06:14] some technologies are crossing over [11:28] hello [11:29] hey crevette [11:29] hey crevette [11:29] happy release day ! [11:29] persia, to you too [11:29] hello ogra & persia [11:29] is it allowed to push fixes or not ? because I have a bug in gnome-user-share due to a bug in obex-data-server [11:29] * ogra sees #ubuntu-release-party slowly moving over the 400 ppl mark [11:30] I laready reported the bug upstream few days ago and it was fixes [11:30] crevette, it will need an SRU bug [11:30] crevette, The issue with not being able to send from the phone to the PC? [11:30] persia, not this one, but a minor one [11:30] crevette, Which bug? [11:30] no notification on file reception [11:30] I didn't had time to opena bug in LP I was doing it right now [11:31] blame me [11:31] * crevette would lie to be an OSS company unemploye :) [11:32] persia, moving obex-data-server to 0.4.1 solved my problems in file recption [11:32] :) [11:32] it is extrem but efficient in my case [11:33] Yeah. My thought was to do that for Jaunty. For the new small issue, do you think it's worth fixing in intrepid? [11:35] file recption seems to not work for some people, I would like if it affect only nokia user [11:35] Mine is nokia, and I seen another nokia user [11:36] who has nokia phones anyway :) [11:36] yeah, just some foolish people [11:50] Team meeting in 10 minutes [11:51] really ? [11:51] do we really hold one on release day ? [11:53] Should be short :) [11:54] right ... [12:26] persia, not being able to receive files is not a small issue for me [12:26] :) [12:27] crevette, heh. Makes sense. Did you open the bug? [12:27] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/obex-data-server/+bug/289487 [12:27] Launchpad bug 289487 in obex-data-server "Unable to received files" [Undecided,New] [12:29] crevette, Does it need the full upgrade, or can a patch be extracted? [12:29] the latest ubuntu-umpc image hangs in QEMU when it hits the desktop [12:30] persia, that what I would like to know too, I try to extract a diff between our snapshot and the current version, but I'm unable do that [12:30] I"m using the web interface cause I'm using windows now [12:30] :) [12:30] crevette, Aha! ping me when you have a chance to look at it in better circumstances, and I'll help try to get the patch into intrepid. [12:31] perhaps the easiest thing is too find the root cause of the problem, and see if a fix is applicable on top of our snapshot [12:32] because moving to 0.4.1 will bring us on unknow road :) [12:32] I think fedora is using 0.4. [12:33] persia, as said before, my available time is tiny, I'm on lucnh break now, that's why I have some time now [12:33] tonight I won't have time to look to this [12:35] crevette, Understood. A few days either way isn't critical, as we're hard-frozen for release anyway. [12:35] yep [12:35] hi [12:35] but I don't think this is possible to change version during a stable release [12:35] right? [12:36] i like to join ubuntu team to work with them through some mean . I have network experience like LAN/WAN , router , switches and configuration of different servers on linux and solaris [12:37] crevette: getting a new version would require a SRU and I don;t see one being granted for a whole new version [12:37] crevette, It's possible, but finding the specific change we want is easier to get approved. [12:37] yeah I understand [12:37] None of the people here can approve any patch, so it's best to minimise it before we submit it. [12:59] CaPriCoRN^80: Which image did you try out so far? [13:00] CaPriCoRN^80, As you raised this during the Mobile meeting, did you want to work on stuff for the MID and UMPC flavours, or just help out more generally? === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [13:22] lool: image ? [13:22] sorry i didnt know about the meeting [13:22] sorry for disturbing [13:23] persia: i dont know about MID and UMPC [13:24] CaPriCoRN^80, OK. What sort of thing do you want to do? [13:29] :) [13:29] persia: well i am not sure what type of work is available [13:29] little confused on that [13:30] but i am not a good developer [13:30] so perhaps i can cut that thing [13:31] CaPriCoRN^80, Maybe you could help track down bugs? [13:31] persia: that will be good [13:31] persia: i have to do this along with my studies [13:32] CaPriCoRN^80, I'm going to suggest you join #ubuntu-bugs, and read the contents of the /topic. That's a great way to get started. [13:32] persia: ok === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_away === davmor2_away is now known as davmor2 [15:55] @all: congrats on the release! [15:57] есть кто из русскоязычных? [15:59] p0rky:no, its english here [17:25] amitk: Would it make sense to switch initrd to squashfs? [17:25] It would mean building the module in the kernel, but I don't think it's a big deal [17:25] However I think it could help performance from USB key and hard disk; not sure about ssd === fta_ is now known as fta [18:45] when will the next image be released? [18:46] in 6 months [18:46] ha ha [18:46] no i heard the new kernel was released today [18:47] * ogra still had no chance to check the ubuntu-umpc final url [18:47] there is no way to get to cdimage.ubuntu.com [18:52] nor me...but that is not suprising [18:59] well, i'D like to know its where it belongs :) [19:02] Hi, could someone explain the process that was used in preparing the MID img? I'd like to make bootable USB keys of other architectures and versions. [19:09] tonyyarusso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/ImageCreation [19:09] excellent [19:41] tonyyarusso, You may also be interested in the usb-creator utility, for flavours that come on CD [19:41] well, that wont get him MID :) [19:43] That actually looks fairly promising. [19:50] tonyyarusso: What arch(es) are you interested in? [19:51] lool: i386 and amd64 primarily. (I know, I'm boring) [19:51] Basically just wanting to make live and/or install CDs in USB stick format [19:52] tonyyarusso: I'm not sure building an i386 image is a good idea [19:52] tonyyarusso: Oh you just want to use an ISO on an USB stick? [19:52] tonyyarusso: There's a tool for that in intrepid [19:52] tonyyarusso: usb-creator [19:53] Yeah, I'm thinking I'll try that. [20:19] lool: squashfs for intrepid or jaunty? [20:19] amitk: jaunty!! [20:20] amitk: I was thinking that it was kind of sad to use the ancient cramfs for initrd [20:20] When squashfs is theoritically superior [20:21] lool: we already have squashfs as a module, so building it in shouldn't be a problem [20:22] amitk: Hmm I wonder whether the kernel knows mounting initrd when they are squashfs? [20:39] lool, i doubt that [20:39] and i'D expect more overhead [20:39] ogra: How so? [20:40] no idea, would need tests, just a guess [20:40] Well it's faster than cramfs in benchmarks I've seen [20:40] See squashfs inclusion in this week's lwn [20:41] haha, fedore moves the X server [20:42] s/e/a/ [20:42] i havent had time this week to look at lwn yet [20:42] Yeah, and I'm afraid it makes sense [20:44] sure it does [20:46] well, i'm a big squashfs fan, we use squashfs images in ltsp because of this ;) i wouldnt object having update-initramfs using a -squash switch :) [20:46] but i assume ram and CPU requirements might be higher than cramfs [20:46] booting the current -generic kernel requires about 48M (including initramfs) [20:47] ogra: The initrd is thrown away, so I'm not worried about ram [20:48] well, wearing my ltsp hat i am :) [20:48] and concerning cpu, I'd expect it to be a net win in the end in terms of boot speed as we have CPU at this stage usually [20:48] ogra: We're only speaking of initrd here [20:48] right [20:48] I wouldn't expect ram usage to be anywhere high during initrd [20:48] with early compcache in initrd i am able to boot a 32M client [20:49] without it i need at least 48M [20:49] the kerne alone takes about 10M before even loading initrd into ram [20:50] or even more, its a while ago that i looked [20:50] for mobile i fully agree its a good thing [20:50] since we will rarely see 32M devices :) === ogra changed the topic of #ubuntu-mobile to: Ubuntu Mobile | FAQ: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/FAQ | UMPC img http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/release/ubuntu-8.10-umpc-i386.img | MID img http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid/ubuntu-8.10-mid-lpia.img [21:32] .oO( fixed the image links to the proper release files ) === merriam_ is now known as merriam