[12:27] ubuntu dust should be included by default in intrepid [12:29] its highest rated theme in gnome-look, and it looks radically different than the current [12:58] thorwil: hey! [12:58] hi nand [12:58] I found a good opportunity for your widget to become famous :) [12:58] http://trolltech.com/developer/pimp-my-widgets-developer-contest/ [12:59] * thorwil looks [13:03] nand: that's ... interesting. thanks for the info! [13:03] thorwil: will you try to participate? [13:04] nand: i have no clue how to work with qt designer and the prices don't interest me one bit :) [13:05] thorwil: I was not expecting the price to be your motivation factor :) [13:06] But well, you have some ideas and will to change our interaction with the UI, it's the occasion to actually show it :) [13:07] Qt is not that hard, their docs is pretty clear. I have seen much worse! [13:14] * thorwil just received his first, or maybe second, fan-mail [13:16] :) kyudo? [13:16] nand: guess i should check if that qt stuff is better suited for demos / test implementations than py-gtk, anyway. atm, i'm a bit swamped, though [13:17] nand: no, countdown banner [13:17] eheh [13:18] nand: so far only like 5 people showed actual interest in kyudo [13:19] * nand would really like to have "only" 5 contributor to ideatorrent [13:19] that's a good start, I'd say! [13:19] heh, i said interested, not contributors ;) [13:19] urg [13:20] and did you started something concrete to show to the list? Having some concrete material can help gathering more interested people sometimes [13:21] like your new fans :) [13:21] with 5 somewhat competent people, we could run the entire show ... [13:21] nand: it's just now in a state where i can move towards something more concrete [13:22] cool! [13:24] but i have artwork for wubi and mudlet on my list first. interest might heat up after intrepid release, anyway [13:24] indeed [13:33] nand: how are things going for you? [13:35] hi folks [13:36] hi rsc-- [13:37] thorwil: soso, work is not that interesting, and I don't find time anymore for my online hobbies [13:37] hi rsc-- [13:37] hopefully that'll get resolved soon [13:37] rsc--: tell you what, you should work on a countdown banner for next release instead of a wallpaper. much more rewarding, no shitty comments at all ;) [13:38] nand: the interest of the hobbie part? hope at least the pay is ok :) [13:38] that part is fortunately ok :) [13:40] hi rsc--, thorwil, nand [13:40] hello kwwii [13:40] heya [17:01] kwwii, please update murrine for intrepid [17:17] Cimi: I am afraid that it is too late for that kind of change :-( [17:18] Cimi: you might want to talk to pitti if you think you can convince him [17:18] kwwii, first of all remove any kind of style line in ALL the gtkrcs [17:19] so that people won't take those as a base (and spread the style = MURRINE option) [17:20] do you know what you've done? you've introduced a broken development snapshot in a distro release [17:26] ooh, drama! [17:28] thorwil, if people will make themes using the version in intrepid, they will be completely (windows 95 look) in 9.04 or just when murrine will be updated [17:28] *completely broken [17:29] because the engine does not parse style = MURRINE option [17:29] and it won't load [17:29] awesome [17:29] yeah [17:29] expecting a lot of bugreports to your launchpad [17:30] *latest update broke my theme* [17:30] *updating murrine makes my themes look like...* [17:30] etc etc [18:04] we just won't update it until intrepid+1 [18:04] kinda silly to be changing the api anyway [18:05] and if I updated it now, all upgraders would say "latest update broke my theme" [18:05] in fact, it would break all themes out there, wouldn't it? [18:12] kwwii, only dust I guess [18:13] you just need to remove that line [18:13] but if you wait april 09 [18:13] there wil be muuuch more themes that will broke [19:40] sed -i 's!style[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*MURRINE!profile = MURRINE!' /usr/share/themes/DarkRoom/gtk-2.0/gtkrc