[00:06] <ScottK> apachelogger: We should.  It's a kmail depends and it's on the CD.
[00:06] <apachelogger> then I think this bug indicates a problem with the defaults
[00:08] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: For the pykdeuic4 bug fix, pykdeuic4 was always a symlink to pykdeuic4.py and so I just moved the symlink.
[00:08] <ScottK-laptop> It would have been more complete probably to move pykdeuic4.py too.
[00:09] <apachelogger> well, as said the whole report is pretty much theoretically anyway since -dev depends on the python-kde4 package anyway
[00:09] <apachelogger> I am going to try get that sorted once and for all
[00:10] <ScottK-laptop> Great.
[00:10]  * ScottK-laptop goes out to drive kids some more.
=== jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna
[01:40] <ScottK> apachelogger: Let me know when you figure out how to paste a file via sftp in Dolphin.
[01:41] <apachelogger> ScottK: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/paste.ogg
[01:41]  * ScottK moves to the machine with sound.
[01:42] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: I'm media impaired.  What app do I play that with?
[01:43] <apachelogger> ScottK-laptop: dragonplayer
[01:43] <ScottK-laptop> Thanks.
[01:44] <ScottK-laptop> So I have to have a 'place' predefined?
[01:45] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: ?
[01:45] <apachelogger> well, it makes things easier
[01:45] <apachelogger> you could also use splitview and dragndrop
[01:45] <apachelogger> or you just copy then change the url manually and paste
[01:45] <ScottK-laptop> OK.  I guess I have to get over to my aversion to Dolphin.
[01:45] <ScottK-laptop> At least it has tabs now.
[01:45] <ScottK-laptop> Thanks.
[01:45] <apachelogger> :)
[01:47] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Works.  Thanks.
[01:48] <ScottK-laptop> Off to clean the kitchen.
[02:02] <ScottK-laptop> So when I saw Dolphin split screen it reminded me of Krusader.  That works too.
[02:03] <ScottK-laptop> Dag nabit, I liked having Konqueror do everything.
[02:18] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: I'll sponsor the kdeartwork one.  I've having that bug, so I can test it.
[02:18] <ScottK-laptop> I've/I'm
[04:02] <JontheEchidna> Awesomeness! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFjfk2AAn6s
[04:05] <JontheEchidna> I think I'll get some sleep
[04:08] <ScottK-laptop> I don't see where they demonstrate ark opening a tar.gz ....
[05:14] <NCommander> ScottK, can you ack a backport?
[05:17] <rgreening> hey
[05:52] <ScottK> NCommander: What?
[06:03] <DreadKnight> heya
[06:03] <DreadKnight> i would like to try to update 8.04 to intrepid beta (64 bits) again
[06:04] <DreadKnight> last time X wouldn't start i think
[06:04] <DreadKnight> Intel GMA 950
[06:04] <DreadKnight> anything i could have done from the command line to get it running?
[06:29] <NCommander> ScottK, xen 3.3
=== ubuntu is now known as DreadKnight
=== jords__ is now known as jords
[15:06] <ryanakca> Riddell: Have you received any screenshots of KDE4/Intrepid?  If not, how should we get them... ask the Planet?
[15:16] <apachelogger> jtechidna: can you still reproduce bug 272541
[15:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 272541 in kdebase "The whole desktop restarts if the desktop folder view widget is closed" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272541
[15:17] <jtechidna> apachelogger: nope :-)
[15:17] <apachelogger> me neither
[15:23] <apachelogger> jtechidna: do you have a beta iso at hand?
[15:23] <jtechidna> nope, wouldn't boot for me anyway, kernel bug
[15:24] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I have an amd64 one... alternate though
[15:25] <apachelogger> jtechidna: kernel bug?
[15:25] <jtechidna> just a second
[15:25] <apachelogger> ryanakca: live makes more sense
[15:25] <apachelogger> need to reproduce a bug in french kdepim
[15:25]  * apachelogger grabs daily image
[15:26] <ryanakca> Oh, bummer. Well, this is a fresh install... would you like me to change the language to french and test for you?
[15:26] <jtechidna> bug 267295
[15:26] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 267295 in linux "The 2.6.27-2.3 kernel fails to boot" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/267295
[15:27] <ryanakca> Can anybody reproduce bug 278611 ?
[15:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278611 in kdebase-workspace "Impossible to change language in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278611
[15:27] <apachelogger> bug 278572
[15:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278572 in kdepim "[intrepid] Kontact (kmail) not displaying properly dates in local format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278572
[15:27] <apachelogger> it did work properly when I changed the date setting
[15:28] <apachelogger> 278611 sounds like fun
[15:29] <Arby> h
[15:32] <ryanakca> Hmmm... can't change the status of the bug to "Needs information" because I'm not the maintainer :/
[15:32] <ryanakca> doh, nevermind
[15:35] <Salze> [16:27] <ryanakca> Can anybody reproduce bug 278611 ? <- no.
[15:35] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278611 in kdebase-workspace "Impossible to change language in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278611
[15:36] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I can't reproduce it, but it might be because (s)he has date/time set up differently...
[15:36] <apachelogger> well, if it doesn't appear in a live environment with french locales we can just close it
[15:37] <apachelogger> I for one think that the user messed up his settings by manually fiddling
[15:41] <apachelogger> jtechidna: bug 278408 is weird
[15:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278408 in kdenetwork "KPPP blank/unresponsive "Create New Account" dialog" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278408
[15:41] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54271/ the related source
[15:42] <jtechidna> apachelogger: brb
[15:42] <jtechidna> rebooting
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yeah, saw that one
[15:48] <JontheEchidna> weird
[15:56] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 268434 needs to go upstream
[15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 268434 in kdebase-workspace "Screen Resolution is not being restored after relogin" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/268434
[15:56] <apachelogger> they would know better if it caused by our xrandr or a bug in krandr
[15:56] <ryanakca> What files / source packages would I look in to fix bug 278620 ? I've tried grepping ``add language'' in the kde-workspace sources without any luck...
[15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278620 in kdebase-workspace "Add language menu in System Settings contains duplicates" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278620
[15:57] <apachelogger> -runtime
[15:57] <ryanakca> s/kde-workspace/kdebase-workspace/g
[15:57] <ryanakca> apachelogger: thanks
[15:59] <apachelogger> oh
[15:59] <apachelogger> eh
[15:59] <apachelogger> nice
[16:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: when booting the live CD with francais it doesn't look very french
[16:00] <apachelogger> the country in systemsettings is also not set
[16:00] <apachelogger> nor is the language
[16:00] <apachelogger> \o/
[16:03] <smarter> apachelogger: i18n is still b0rken thanks to rosetta, so it doesn't really make a difference :P
[16:03] <apachelogger> it does
[16:03] <apachelogger> completely unrelated to rosetta
[16:04] <smarter> the fact that i18n is broke?
[16:05] <apachelogger> the fact that the live cd wouldn't use an l10n at all
[16:09] <smarter> well, no l10n seems better than half-translated apps imho :P
[16:12] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[16:12] <JontheEchidna> editing my blog put it back on top of the planet
[16:12] <JontheEchidna> vorian: oh, and I stoled your cube pic D:
[16:13] <JontheEchidna> but couldn't you have put a wallpaper in the background instead of a pure blue background? ;P
[16:16] <apachelogger> ryanakca: you did a normal english installation?
[16:17] <apachelogger> smarter: using wrong formats is not
[16:17] <ryanakca> apachelogger: Yes, well, Canadian English... not that KDE recognized it as such, but it's what I selected while installing.
[16:17]  * apachelogger doesn't really see why a german would use letter for example
[16:17] <apachelogger> ryanakca: please file a bug report
[16:18] <apachelogger> ryanakca: did you install the missing language packs before you stumbled upon the loop bug?
[16:18] <ryanakca> apachelogger: against what package? kdebase? kde? k-d-s ?
[16:18] <apachelogger> ryanakca: ubiquity
[16:18] <apachelogger> or ubiquity-kde if that exists
[16:18] <ryanakca> apachelogger: even if I used the alternate CD?
[16:19] <ryanakca> ok
[16:19] <apachelogger> ryanakca: well, it doesn't work with the live anyway :P
[16:19] <apachelogger> ryanakca: ryanakca: did you install the missing language packs before you stumbled upon the loop b
[16:22] <ryanakca> apachelogger: yes, they were installed. At least, English was marked as installed in the ``Install new languages'' dialogue... and would that be a duplicate of bug 62613 ?
[16:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 62613 in ubiquity "Correct locale settings not set within KDE after installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62613
[16:22] <ryanakca> also, bug 144414
[16:22] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 144414 in ubiquity "Localization issues and more." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144414
[16:23] <apachelogger> ryanakca: not the former
[16:23] <apachelogger> that was about KDE 3
[16:23] <apachelogger> and apparently only happend sometimes
[16:23] <apachelogger> ryanakca: same for the latter
[16:23] <ryanakca> Ok
[16:25] <apachelogger> hm
[16:25] <apachelogger> why does the country selector have an ok button
[16:25]  * apachelogger is wondering if it only works with single click due to single click setting
[16:26] <apachelogger> ryanakca: doesn't loop here
[16:27] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please throw bugs which we can actually fix for intrepid at me
[16:28] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ok
[16:28] <ryanakca> apachelogger: bug 278634
[16:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278634 in ubiquity "[Intrepid Beta] KDE does not use the language selected during install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278634
[16:28] <ryanakca> If you would like to confirm :)
[16:28] <JontheEchidna> I'll probably work on the cubecap, but I can't test it since I lacks proprietary drivers that work for my card
[16:29] <JontheEchidna> I'll also grab the cylinder/sphere shaders from trunk and add them to the patch
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> What's with bug 275997?
[16:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 275997 in kdebase "Intrepid: Kubuntu maximise button missing from Konqueror" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/275997
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: ^?
[17:04] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: Riddell fixed t that in kds the other day
[17:04] <JontheEchidna> cool, I'll close it then
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[17:33] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you ever report a bug to fd.o in order to get bug 217654 sorted?
[17:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 217654 in kdesdk "nautilus won't launch KDE apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217654
[17:35] <ScottK> Why is that a bug in kdesdk?
[17:51] <apachelogger> ScottK: see most recent comment I added
[17:52] <apachelogger> gnome doesn't handle empty keys to well
[17:52] <apachelogger> and KDE got a lot of empty Path keys
[17:52] <apachelogger> and JontheEchidna and I are not really sure whether it is an issue in GNOME or in the desktop files
[18:42] <ScottK> glib2.0 in hppa is fixed, so we have some hope of getting kde stuff built on hppa now.
[19:04] <apachelogger> I seriously need some main sponsors :P
[19:04]  * apachelogger pings nixternal
[19:06] <apachelogger> ScottK: btw, if you got some seconds ... kgrubeditor needs a retry on amd64 and lpia
[19:25] <ScottK> apachelogger: Done.
[19:26] <apachelogger> thank you
[19:27] <ScottK> No problem.  Those are easy enough.
[20:18] <apachelogger> ryanakca: what to do, make the drupal theme scalable or the wiki static?
[20:18]  * apachelogger finds the size of the drupal theme unsufficient for the wiki
[20:19] <apachelogger> then again changing the theme for the wiki is a) weird b) awful looking c) distrubing a user when trying to clix0r through all the top right links
[20:19] <apachelogger> so we need a unification of some sort
[20:32]  * smarter uploads a new snapshot of Kvkbd, a virtual keyboard for KDE, to his PPA: https://launchpad.net/~smarter/+archive (feedback appreciated :) ) 
[20:43] <apachelogger> smarter: as if we would ever had gotten feedback when we asked here :P
[20:43] <smarter> :P
[20:43] <apachelogger> who owns an eeeeeee?
[20:43] <smarter>  I do
[20:43] <apachelogger> smarter: please try to reproduce bug 259181
[20:43] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 259181 in kdebase-workspace "KDM background image not displayed correctly on low resolution display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259181
[20:44] <smarter> does it need intrepid to be reproduced?
[20:44] <apachelogger> no, just kdm-kde4
[20:44] <apachelogger> I tried with 1024x600 in a vbox but it didn't cause the issue
[20:44] <smarter> okay, I've KDE 4.1.0 on my eee, should I update first? :P
[20:44] <apachelogger> so it might very well be just a bug in the driver
[20:44] <apachelogger> smarter: omg, how can even use .0? :P
[20:45] <smarter> I don't use my eee a lot when I'm not traveling ;)
[20:45] <smarter> (actually, I just found one user of Kvkbd on the french Ubuntu forum, I'm not gonna let him go without asking him to give me plenty of feedback :P)
[20:45] <apachelogger> I think even the eee would be a decent icecc node :P
[20:49] <smarter> I'd use it if my main computer was not 64bits :)
[20:55] <apachelogger> smarter: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream#Cross-Compiling_using_icecream
[20:59] <smarter> I doubt I can crosscompil 64 bits on 32 bits :]
[20:59] <smarter> besides, 900Mhz are just not worth the pain :p
[21:02] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[21:30] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I'd make it static... are you making it match the Drupal one?
[21:41] <apachelogger> ryanakca: yes, the idea is to use the same theme, which is the reason I think the drupal one should become dynamic
[21:42] <apachelogger> there he goes
[21:42]  * apachelogger gets a tea
[21:44] <ryanakca> apachelogger:  Ah. Feel free to. I quite like the theme that mdke (I believe) wrote for the help.ubuntu.com/community/ wiki... I would've just tweaked it to have Kubuntu colors / gradients... but up to you.
[21:45] <ryanakca> apachelogger: (if you want to see it, you'll need to select it from UserPreferences... if you want the exact name, lemme install FF first, the wiki hates Konqueror)
[21:49] <ryanakca> apachelogger: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme
[22:05] <ryanakca> apachelogger: ping, could you help me with bug 278620 please? I've built packages (source package: kdebase-runtime) with what I'm hoping is a fix... but how do I get them installed without breaking my system... I can downgrade them to the Kubuntu version fine, but trying to install my ``fixed'' version causes a dependency hell :)
[22:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 278620 in kdebase-workspace "Add language menu in System Settings contains duplicates" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278620
[22:06] <apachelogger> ryanakca: you need to install all required packages at once
[22:06] <apachelogger> sudo dpkg -i kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 etc.
[22:07] <apachelogger> the dependency hell most likely just affects kdebase-runtime packages anyway
[22:11] <ryanakca> apachelogger: thanks
[22:12] <ryanakca> ... also... should I have ubuntu-minimal installed in my chroot?
[22:13] <apachelogger> for what?
[22:13] <ryanakca> apachelogger: building chroot...
[22:14] <apachelogger> depends on what you want to do with the chroot