[03:39] Hi, where do I create an account to use pidgin and use this room? [03:45] hello all [03:45] has anyone tryed heliocreek? [03:46] MythbuntuGuest58: just add an account to pidgin, and you will be prompted by the server when you log on [03:47] thedarkone: Why would you? [03:47] thx! the user name and pass is it also set under pidgin? [03:48] I've used this chat a few times, I'd rather login with a set name instead of guest every time [03:48] ya it will tell you about registering the nick (if it isn't already) [03:49] hads it has youtube in it [03:50] Wow how'd they get that in there? ;) [03:50] no clue [03:50] u should see it [03:58] Hi there! thanks for guiding me to this room [04:00] I'm wondering if any of you has any experiences with storage groups in 8.04.1 I'm just starting a fresh install with 2 hard drives HDa is 30 GB HDb is 500 GB [04:03] I thought HDa could be /boot 250MB / 16GB /swap 1.5GB [04:03] HDb would be /mythtv/recordings 210GB /mythtv/misc 120GB and /mythtv/archive 170GB [04:03] What do I need to do to point mythtv-setup so I can get this up and running? [04:34] . [04:35] do you have the partitions done already? [04:37] darthanubis: you never posted your ffmpeg version or which ffmpeg [04:38] sure I did, you just never saw it? [04:39] there is something wrong with your client then [04:39] as thats 2 days in a row you say you said something that never came through [04:39] jphillip and I went around the loop earlier [04:39] nothings wrong with this fresh install on a new not even week old build [04:40] might have been with the other box two weeks ago [04:40] anyway [04:40] rhpot1991, yes I do, would you have any different suggestion? [04:40] I have your mythexport from your ppa repos [04:40] sorcier: your recordings dir might be a little small, but if you are achieving frequently it should be ok [04:40] now you just need to setup the storage groups in mythtv-setup [04:41] I have or had ff,peg from medibuntu forced to use that depreciated version, before I gave up, and just installed the most current for repos [04:41] darthanubis: do a which ffmpeg and an ffmpeg --version and pastebin them [04:41] Yes, I'm planning on deleting files frequently [04:41] errr, -version [04:41] one - [04:41] I then started to compile ffmpeg from svn and edit your script, like I did in April, but I got disillionsed when ffmpeg would not compile, and left it alone [04:42] I know which ffmpeg I'm using [04:42] the latest in Hardy atm and NOT the medibuntu one [04:42] which wont work [04:42] hardy doesn't have aac [04:42] which I know [04:42] I'm in that section right now, but I guess I don't get the concept yet. I want HDb to be taking all of the recordings, do I need to edit the Default directory? [04:43] rhpot1991, you wern't around and I gave up [04:43] after I wolf this food down, I'll attempt to play again [04:43] sorcier: point it at your /mythtv/recordings for the recordings storage group [04:43] as well as the live one [04:43] darthanubis: just do those 2 things [04:43] I will [04:44] and I am jphillip as well [04:44] :( [04:45] that makes you sad? [04:45] dude, we did all of this? [04:45] I just am doing the exact thing you tell me [04:45] which ffmpeg will tell you which one it is using [04:45] you repeat [04:45] I repeat [04:45] ok, so the "default" storage group, go under" add new directory" and point it to /mythtv/recordings right? [04:45] so you can make sure you don't have an extra one around [04:45] and you blame me for user error [04:45] I can't find the user error [04:45] the system is fresh [04:45] I'm telling you, that you have a problem with ffmpeg on your system [04:46] maybe since I stepped away I'll be able to ...I dunno:/ [04:46] thats what the aac error is from [04:46] Its a fresh install mate [04:46] unless you were pasting old logs again [04:47] that makes me sad [04:47] I old poaste was reference [04:47] would you mind confirming rhpot1991? thanks [04:47] sorcier: ya that sounds about right [04:47] sorcier: anything here can be changed, so don't be afraid to make an error [04:48] darthanubis: pasting old logs like that is very very very confusing :( [04:48] I agree [04:48] when I walk you through setting something up and see an error, I would think it just happend and didn't happen 4 months ago [04:49] basically all you should need to do is get medibuntu ffmpeg and mythexport from my ppa, and all should be good as long as your privs are ok (which they should be now) [04:53] rhpot1991_laptop, http://pastebin.com/d465e0417 [04:54] mythexport 1.0.1-0ubuntu1~ppa10 [04:54] ok, that looks good [04:55] cool [04:55] now what error are you currently getting when you run the user job? [04:56] Unknown codec 'aac' [04:56] http://pastebin.com/d4d29abcf [04:57] you just ran that userjob right now? [04:57] which is even more curious since I was at least able to run from cli with that command this morning [04:57] this morning though, I was using the mythexport from the hardy repo, not ppa [04:58] ffmpeg line is abouts the same in there, just fixed a few bugs [05:07] rhpot1991_laptop ... are u still around? [05:07] yep [05:08] !ask | sorcier [05:08] sorcier: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question. Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it. IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer. [05:08] most of us check here randomly too, so just ask away [05:08] I finished the setup ( mythfilldatabase) restarted.... I went into watch tv but it just kicks me out. no image to be seen [05:09] I now the card ( PVR-500) is working ( it was until yesterday 8.04 mythbuntu) any place to look for a glitch? [05:09] !logs | sorcier [05:09] sorcier: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [05:10] check there, in your backend logs [05:10] heading right there thanks... be right back [05:10] should have an error if something went wrong, you can check the frontend ones as well, but I think it will be in the backend [05:10] I'm gonna get permission issues :) [05:11] I do see 2 logs ... would you mind taking a look at them? [05:12] !pastbin | sorcier [05:12] Sorry I don't know about pastbin [05:12] !pastebin | sorcier [05:12] sorcier: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [05:12] put them in there, backend one first [05:13] damm! you are the man. thanks! It will be right there. [05:16] rhpot1992.... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d6766e3af [05:16] sorcier: do a ls -la of /mythtv/recordings [05:19] cooking... [05:24] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d5c17122e [05:24] has anyone tryed heliocreek? [05:24] sorcier: yep permission problems [05:24] you want to sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /mythtv/recordings [05:24] I'm all ears [05:25] and then sudo chmod 775 /mythtv/recordings [05:25] ok [05:25] you are gonna want to do those on all your mythtv directories [05:25] thedarkone: you might be better trying the forums [05:26] ok cooking that too! [05:28] done! [05:28] any further step? [05:29] BRAAAAAAAAVOOOO!!! [05:29] nope, should work [05:29] NICE!! [05:29] IT IS WORKING! [05:29] :) [05:30] A:):):) [05:30] THANKS A LOT! [05:30] no problem [05:30] Just to confirm. any recording should now be heading to that 500 GB HD right ( /mythtv/recordings [05:31] you might hit the same problem with other areas along the way, its a good idea to make sure that its actually pointing at something that exists and that it has permissions to, normally you can see the file path in the errors in the backend [05:31] yep [05:31] 2008-07-29 21:05:28.923 SG(Default) Error: Group 'Default' wants to use directory '/mythtv/recordings/', but this directory is not writeable. [05:31] that line is what I saw that was wrong, so you know what to look for in the future [05:32] ok... so that's the kind of error I should be seeing or looking for in the logs then [05:32] bravoo!!! [05:32] I'm keeping this conversation! thanks! [05:32] yep, if you run into the same type error, which you very well may with custom locations [05:35] if you don't mind me asking... frontends, should not have this problem right? [05:35] what do you mean? [05:36] Any frontend I add to the network should see this backend right? [05:37] there is a setting in MCC you need to activate, let me look for it [05:37] thanks!! thanks!! thanks!! [05:38] in MCC (mythbuntu-control-centre), you want to enable mysql services under system services [05:40] heading there [05:42] I think I may have changed the initial settings in the frontend since It was not responding ( I was not aware of enabling MYSQL) would you mind giving me a hand in case it does not respond with this last change? [05:43] I can try, but my backend is currently recording so I can't use it to reference things [05:43] also I need to go to bed soon, but we can see how far we can get [05:43] sure I would not want to interrupt it [05:44] 2 mins [05:44] I'll get the log to the frontend [05:45] actually all it says is: starting mythfrontend.real.. [05:45] but nothing actually happens [05:46] check your frontend logs [05:46] I'm guessing you need to reconfigure the IP that its looking at [05:46] yeah, that's what I get in today's frontend log [05:46] it will look at localhost by default, but if you are going to have remote frontends then you need an IP that everything can hit [05:46] you are going to want to give that box a static IP [05:47] meaning the backend right? [05:47] yep [05:47] yea, it;s got a static [05:47] set by the router [05:47] just run mythtv-setup again, and point at that IP instead of localhost or 127.0.0.1 [05:48] how do I relaunch mythfrontnd set up again [05:48] jajaja! ok [05:48] there is a link for the frontend under the menu, under video or multimedia or something [05:49] backend setup link is under the admin menu [05:49] in the terminal (frontend) type : myth-setup ? [05:50] yeah, under sound and video: I have mythtv frontend but it does not launch anything [05:50] actually, you only do mythtv-setup in the backend [05:50] do that first and point it at the new ip [05:51] ok ok, in the backend run mythtv-setup and instead of the 127 address change it to it's static IP right? [05:52] yep [05:54] done.. running mythfilldatabase now [05:54] what are you recording over there? [05:54] discovery channel shark week [05:55] cool are you a diver? [05:55] done... I now am in the frontend in the database configuration [05:55] nah, sharks are just cool [05:55] the port to the backend is 6543? [05:56] you shouldn't need to change any ports [05:57] do you remember where to retrieve the password to the database? [05:57] I don't think I have set any in the backend [05:58] I think I got it ::: /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt in the backend [06:01] yep [06:08] rhpot1991: this is what I get when I try to launch the frontend http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d460c03c1 [06:09] is that using the launcher in the menu? [06:09] that is right [06:10] try launching mythtv-frontend from a terminal [06:10] might give you more info [06:10] after having set the IP the the backend port 6543 and password [06:10] and check your log, pastebin it if you want [06:10] ok [06:10] is 6543 what it was set at? [06:10] rhpot1991, whats the verdict? [06:11] can we rule out I don't have the wrong setup at least? [06:11] is that the right command? I get commando not found for " mythtv-frontend" [06:11] let me check it [06:12] thanks! you let me know when my time is up! I really appreciate it! [06:12] there is a mythfrontend and mythfrontend.real [06:12] try the .real first [06:12] darthanubis: I honestly don't know at this point [06:13] cool [06:13] so that would be in the terminal mythtv-frontend.real [06:13] if you run it as debug and take the line, it gives you the same aac error? [06:13] sorcier: it looks like mythfrontend.real [06:13] yes [06:14] darthanubis: and if you do ffmpeg -verion it has libfaac (or similiar) listed as enabled? [06:14] yup [06:15] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d4b406ba3 [06:15] sorcier: does it get anywhere? [06:16] I think mine normally starts asking me for the db info when it can't see the backend, so this may be a different problem all together [06:16] darthanubis: it should work, it still works here and I haven't seen anything in the forums saying otherwise [06:17] you don't have odd hardware or something do you? [06:17] do you see anything here... http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/d4b406ba3 [06:17] after removing your ppa, and updating, it works from the nice value on cmd line now [06:17] but calling the script directly still does nothing [06:18] the only thing different in the ffmpeg line from the ppa should be the missing aspect ratio [06:18] I'm just reporting the findings [06:18] sorcier: nothing that looks bad [06:18] I uncheck your ppas, and it runs from cli [06:18] does it ever launch the frontend [06:18] darthanubis: what kind of hardware are you using? [06:19] os[Linux 2.6.24-20-generic x86_64] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.40GHz] mem[Physical: 3.9GB, 72.3% free] disk[Total: 448.9GB, 81.6% free] video[10de:06e4] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] [06:19] it actually does not, neither with the terminal command nor with the icon in the menu [06:19] fair equipment [06:19] you are tight it may be something else [06:20] darthanubis: if I didn't know it was working for lot of other people then I'd be more inclined to think there was a problem, but this really still seems like its just an ffmpeg issue, want to pastebin the the end of your logs so I can just skim it over again? [06:20] darthanubis: ya, just wanted to make sure it wasn't via or something, that is more rare, trying to think of what it could possibly be at this point [06:21] sorcier: these are both ubuntu/mythbuntu boxes, completely upgraded? [06:21] you do remember us doing this back in April right? [06:21] same versions and so on [06:21] darthanubis: ype [06:21] The exact same thing [06:21] :/ man, why me? [06:21] let me get the log [06:21] I thought it was permissions then, and then you built your own ffmpeg [06:21] yup [06:21] which will not work unless you want to modify the script [06:21] I also had it off home then [06:21] it was permissions at first [06:21] I fixed that [06:21] I have to code for ubuntu ffmpeg, being thats what most people have [06:22] and ended up building ffmpeg [06:22] I know [06:22] I just want to be in that most people crowd so it just works [06:22] it really sounds like you have an old (new) version of ffmpeg lingering somewhere thats being called [06:22] that shouldn't be on a new install though [06:22] nuvexport and mythexport never have worked out the box for me [06:22] I just built this system [06:23] no upgrade of Hardy [06:23] clean install of 8.04.1 [06:23] formated the drives and all right? [06:25] they are formated and brand new [06:28] my log is a mess, with in/out from my wifi card [06:29] I only need to see the part where you last ran mythexport [06:35] darthanubis: I'm heading to bed, just pastebin it and I'll check in the morning [06:35] I can't find anything mythexport, myth, ffmpeg, nothing related [06:35] thx [06:35] darthanubis: where are you looking? [06:36] syslog [06:36] mythlog [06:36] !logs | darthanubis [06:36] darthanubis: MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ [06:36] my syslog is flooded with network traffic from the kernel [06:37] should be in the backend log there [06:37] alright leaving for real now [06:38] tail -5 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log [06:38] 2008-07-30 01:32:50.421 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Monitor [06:38] 2008-07-30 01:32:50.422 adding: core2duo as a client (events: 0) [06:38] 2008-07-30 01:32:55.972 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 1.0 GB w/freq: 15 min [06:38] 2008-07-30 01:37:50.599 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Monitor [06:38] 2008-07-30 01:37:50.602 adding: core2duo as a client (events: 0 [06:49] rhpot1991 if you are around. just wanted to thank you, I may pick on your knowledge soon again! good night [07:34] Hi there. [07:34] I was wondering if there was a way to have a card fallover to the next card if it is unable to pick up a signal. [07:36] eg. 1 channel is pretty weak for me, and depending what the other 2 cards are tuned to dictates if i get a lock or not [13:27] does anybody know how to completely uninstall mythtv? i want to reinstall and start fresh [13:29] hi guys, i have ubuntu 8.04 and i want to install mythtv on it but the problem is that i don't have an internet connection!! I can only reach the internet in the Cafe [13:29] so how can i do it? [13:31] there are tools to download the necessary package files. i guess you can also download the alternate disk and use that as a package repository [13:31] you'll also need to find a way to get EPG data if you want to record TV.. probably via DVB-EIT [13:33] My only concern now is only to know how can i download and install MythTV [13:34] if they don't mind you download ~500MB, the alternate disk should work [13:36] I can download what ever size i want, but what is the alternate disk? [13:39] rockyrock: http://www.mythbuntu.org/downloads [13:39] "direct alternate download" - or use the bittorrent download [13:39] i guess you want i386 [13:41] yeah [13:41] darthanubis ping [13:41] ok, so how can i use this distro to install MythTV on my Ubuntu? [13:43] rockyrock: you can add it as a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list - i think some graphical package management tools can do that for you [13:56] i don't know how can i do that, plz can u help me? [13:59] rockyrock: i've just looked at synaptic - there is a menu to add CDs [14:00] aha great [14:00] so after that all the packages of the CD will be listed in Synaptic? [14:01] and i have just to mark the packages and they will be installed automatically, right? [14:01] yes [14:01] what packages should i mark? [14:01] i hope so, at least. i never tried that since i have internet all the time [14:01] well, do you want mythbuntu? [14:01] yes [14:03] rockyrock: http://www.mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [14:03] basically, you need to install mythbuntu-desktop [14:04] and have universe and multiverse enabled [14:08] thnx man a lot === MythbuntuGuest50 is now known as stevetv [14:33] hi there. im having a problem with mytharchive failing to use the cutlist [14:34] my final dvd works perfectly.. except it includes the start and the finish of the recording, which i have removed with a cut list [14:35] and im confused :( === mueller_ is now known as strikegun [14:41] stevetv I haven't worked with mytharchive at all, but maybe you need to transcode them first? [14:44] thanks jphillip .. i think i may have found a solution here [14:44] http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=58240532404b72071f6c7a8b3833f7f7&t=610856&page=2 [14:44] ill have a crack at that.. hoping that it wont break anything else :D [14:46] night all :) [19:17] Greetings everyone. I have a current Debian system running MythTV and LTSP. I've spent months configuring every little file, so I cannot rationally install Mythbuntu on the server and nuke everything. Is it possible to get a thin mythbuntu client to access my current debian server via LTSP? [19:29] Hello i need help for tv out. The ouput off my tv are not readable [19:31] i have a 6600 graphic card [19:40] devsforev, I think that should be feasible .. even if you can't get LTSP, you could do a "fat client" and host the / file system on the server, so you'd have diskless fat client & then install mythbuntu on that. [19:41] that's what I've done .. I have a core server, and all the Frontends are fat clients that have their own ram / GPU & processor .. but mount the server for their / [20:06] if I were to make this a fat client, would all processes run on that terminal? I would prefer if only video-related tasks would, as this is the bottleneck I encountered when just running LTSP alone and trying to play video [21:38] zabbadapp: are you here ? [21:39] or is there anyone else with a nova T 500 card that could instruct me on how to get the second tuner working in mythbuntu [21:48] olterman: yes [21:49] i can't find the live cd for mythbuntu 8 only desktop and alternate [21:51] for amd [21:52] olterman: simply add another tv-card in mythtv-setup ... select the next dvb-unit in the gui (0 and 1 should be available to you). [21:53] zabbadapp: heh I did but all I get is a black screen on number two [21:54] can I connect it to the same TV listing or does it need to be separayte [21:54] the same listing [21:54] wierd [21:54] MythbuntuGuest63 8.04.1, or are you looking for some old version? [21:54] on mythtv-status it says I have three adapters but I only have that one card with two [21:55] have you activated "multirec" (the ability to record several channels within the same mux using only one tuner) ? [21:56] each such "multirec" device turns up as a new tv-card as well .. I have one multirec on each tuner, so my total is 4 tuners according to the myth-status [21:59] oh, sorry ... i explained a bit wrong ... you will only see two tv-cards in mythtv-setups tv-card screen .. but internally, myth will consider a multirec-device as a new tv-card with some limitations regarding what channels it can select (linked to what mux is currently tuned) [22:00] ok [22:00] ...and so, the mythtv status will say you have more than 2 tuners [22:00] I see [22:00] has anyone tryed heliocreek? [22:01] "max recordings" is the name of the gui-options (a sub screen of where you can select the dvb-unit number) [22:01] and should i set that to 1 [22:02] it's up to you .. you can record more simultaneous shows if you set it to 2 or 3 ... but you should maybe get the two "real" tuners you got to work first [22:05] mmm [22:05] do I need to create input groups ? [22:05] only for your 2 "real" [22:06] got alternate to work now so i'm ok, now I only neet to get HVR-3000 to work [22:08] so I do need separate input groups for the cards [22:12] my video descriptions are no longer available, they all say "None" - i have tried different themes, it happens with all of them - the descriptions used to be there - updating current movies using IMDB doesn't fix the problem, and completely new movies also do not show a description - mythbuntu 8.04.1 and mythtv 0.21.0+fixes16838-0ubuntu3.1 - any ideas? [22:12] i had forgotten about that ... but i have two different [22:14] but the same video-source (epg-data) for both [22:17] trying to setup my first mythbuntu. can figure how to setup capture card for Happauge 1800 [22:17] can anyone help? [22:23] zabbadapp: thanx [23:13] anyone here [23:13] yes [23:13] wait [23:13] no [23:13] ;) [23:14] can i added themes to mythbuntu ? [23:14] i have themes for mythtv [23:14] but when i try to add them nothing shows up [23:14] any theme you like [23:15] you just have to restart the frontend for them to show up [23:15] do u put them in /usr/share/mythtv/themes [23:16] yes [23:16] as a folder [23:16] so /var/share/mythtv/themes/sometheme [23:17] i did [23:17] nothing shows [23:18] did you give permissions to the mythtv user? [23:18] sudo chown -R mythtv:mythtv /var/share/mythtv/themes/sometheme [23:18] oh [23:18] well usr/ [23:18] not var [23:19] what? [23:19] it is /usr/share/mythtv/themes [23:19] not var [23:22] well [23:22] yea [23:22] sorry [23:22] copy paste [23:22] :) [23:22] still nothing shows [23:23] try this sudo chmod 755 -R /path/to/theme [23:25] nope [23:25] and make sure to restart the frontend after you change it [23:25] i did [23:25] k [23:25] thats strange [23:26] yeah [23:26] what theme is this? [23:26] metallugury [23:26] well try installing it [23:26] I think that one is packaged [23:26] open up mcc and just select it [23:27] it don't show up there [23:29] is it in the list? [23:29] not in mythtv [23:29] in mythbuntu control centre [23:35]