[00:02] I'll fade out until tomorrow morning [00:02] goodnight :) [00:02] gnite folks [00:02] * Dave2 waves, does same. [00:03] I'll be traveling home for about two hours more, but dont want to waste battery with IRC [00:04] have a nice nap, Myrtti [00:04] so, tatah. [00:20] BooVeMan_work called the ops in #kubuntu () [00:21] * Pici shakes his head [00:24] I added the standard 'use only in emergencies' stuff to the ops-#kubuntu factioid [00:25] which will be ignored :) [00:25] yeah, but it makes me feel better. [00:27] Give kubuntu a break, if it were not for them being so generally unhelpful (years ago) I would never have left kde and moved to Ubuntu [00:37] soundray called the ops in #ubuntu (MasterZeik95) [00:51] Could you have a look at snmpee in #u please [00:54] soundray: ignore him [01:00] I have him in pm.. [01:17] snmpee> Gman99999, as far as how to use nessus, rtfm but there is a #nessus for you <---lovely [01:20] After my talk with him he is on thin ice === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [02:03] uah. Only 50m walk home from bus stop [02:09] there's no place like home [02:11] looks like smallfoot is crazy... [02:13] nalioth I can think of one place right now, but lets not get into that [03:25] genii called the ops in #ubuntu (slim12345 rascism swearing) [03:27] moo_cow: Can we help you? [03:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfPnvn7hgRY [03:29] hello [03:32] I dont think theres anything we can do for you here. [03:33] !idle | Slim12345 moo_cow [03:33] Slim12345 moo_cow: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only, and we ask you to part when you have no further business here, in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [03:36] moo_cow Slim12345 Please dont idle in here, this is official business only [03:36] silly script [05:17] !love [05:17] Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come. [05:17] haha [05:27] (11:25:23 PM) makson4l: this is crap.. some how i got banned from the ubunutu channel? I loaded an IRC chat client and i didnt have a chance to congiure my mouse yet and it was goign crazy disconnecting and reconnecting to the channel and they banned me [05:27] (11:25:28 PM) makson4l: how do I get off a bann list ? [05:27] (11:25:33 PM) makson4l: its been 2 days lol [05:27] (11:26:34 PM) ethan: i'll represent you [05:27] (11:26:43 PM) ethan: your client is fixed now, right? [05:27] (11:26:47 PM) makson4l: yes [05:27] sorry for the flood, should have made that one line [05:28] makson4l got banned for activity perpertrated by a poorly configured client; that behavior is now fixed and he would like to be removed from the ban list [05:28] can someone help him out? [05:29] @btlogin [05:29] ethana2 he's not listed by that name in the ban tracker [05:29] ..i may have typed it wrong [05:29] but i think i pasted it right [05:30] I copied & pasted, so I spelled as shown [05:30] it's by IP [05:30] ethana2 we probably need his ip [05:30] k [05:30] nickrud: look it up. [05:30] Hobbsee speaking of that, I've got some nick bans (the chanserv.py seems to be doing both now), I need tutoring on removing those [05:30] [14:29] [Whois] makson4l is n=Shane@adsl-074-166-243-074.sip.bct.bellsouth.net (Shane) [05:30] 74.166.243.074 [05:30] i think that's it [05:31] * Hobbsee wonders at JackSparrow [05:31] Hobbsee I saw you were on it, and stepped back for the mistress ;) [05:31] also, he would like to know exactly what he got banned for, to make sure his box was not compromised [05:31] nickrud: go ahead, if you're in there. [05:31] ethana2: tbh, i'd like to know that too. [05:32] from his account, it's likely to have been a rapid series of join/exit s [05:32] perhaps so, but i don't see these here. [05:33] i wonder if it is showing all joins/parts/quits [05:33] ok, well, what is the process to unban him? [05:34] ethana2 it's gone [05:34] thank you [05:35] ethana2: if it was continous joins/parts, it would have been to cut the channel noise. [05:35] ethana2 next time, you should recommend the person come here him/herself, we don't bite (maybe get poked with a pointy stick, but it's metaphorical anyway) [05:35] oh, ok [05:35] the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ lives! [05:35] nickrud: doesn't xchat have a ban gui? [05:36] k, i told him [05:36] Hobbsee yes it does, but doesn't list them all. Or the ban tracker is listing some that are no longer banned [05:36] he reccomends that when someone is banned, they are given the name of this channel [05:37] nickrud: the latter is more likely, as it hasn't been online all teh time [05:37] automatically he means [05:37] ethana2 a point, and a good one [05:37] feedback is valuable [05:37] and it's often most valuable when spontaneous [05:37] well, you fine gents and ladies all have a very good day [05:38] i'll be seeing you around, goodbye [05:38] Hobbsee that's good then, I'll stop worring about nick bans I wanted to lift [07:05] um, since when do we allow 'lawyers'? :-/ [07:06] seriously, dont egoboost, ask for the real person with the real problem [07:08] elkbuntu: The cool cats and kittens are all getting other people to talk for them, didn't you know? [07:08] at least, ask for some indication that person is at least a sentinel being [07:09] Flannel, my agent will get back to you within the hour [07:09] * Flannel wasn't around. but I agree. [07:09] elkbuntu: Have your people call my people [07:09] will do [07:12] is it a flannel world, yet? [07:12] sentinel? [07:13] Code Seven [07:18] it's my brother's cat's roommate's lawyer [07:24] Ok, thats done :D - everyone check emails [07:27] very nice! thank you jussi01 and stdin :) [07:30] :) [07:30] elkbuntu: may I pm for a min? [07:31] sure [07:44] Can anyone else login via @btlogin? [07:44] @btlogin [07:44] bazhang: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [07:45] Flannel, no [07:45] hrm [07:45] not good [07:45] ruh roh [07:45] * jussi01 goes too look into it [07:45] s/contact the administrator/whine to jussi01/ [08:35] moin [08:42] bazhang: you arounf? [08:42] around even... [08:42] jussi01, hi :) [08:42] bazhang: please try @btlogin for me [08:42] hello Myrtti [08:43] Success!!! [08:43] jussi01, ^^ [08:43] ok thanks [08:43] Myrtti: try @btlogin [08:43] np :) [08:46] @btlogin [08:47] Myrtti: what does @whoami return for you? Myrtti? or myrtti? [08:53] Myrtti: nevermind [08:53] @whoami [08:53] elkbuntu: I don't recognize you. [08:53] @btlogin [08:53] @whoami [08:53] elkbuntu: elkbuntu [08:53] yay, im loved [08:55] :D [10:05] * Myrtti yawns [10:05] honey puff cereals \o/ [10:09] mic1394 has so many stories not sure which to believe [10:12] la de da [10:13] teamwork! [10:13] heh [10:13] haha [10:14] Flannel: you drive, I'm stepping on your toes [10:14] ikonia: I didn't see that there were two of them [10:14] and I'll be heading off to bed soon. trying to get to sleep early tonight. [10:14] Flannel: thats what you said 1 hour ago.... [10:14] o.0 [10:15] jussi01: Yes, and now its 2:15... I'm... going. [10:15] [11:22:04] I'll be heading off to bed soon anyway [10:15] rofl [11:38] ubottu:fooooo [11:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about fooooo [11:38] ubuntoo, can we help? [11:40] Mez: nope , just a ping ,was seeing the ubuntu channels around [11:40] !channels | ubuntoo, here is a full list. [11:40] I'll remember that, jpds [11:40] . [11:41] !forget channels [11:41] In #ubuntu-ops, Mez said: !forget channels [11:41] @login [11:41] Mez: The operation succeeded. [11:41] !forget channels [11:41] I'll forget that, Mez [11:53] tsk. [11:54] hi Myrtti :) [12:02] Tm_T, don't upset her - she has a big british poking pencil of doom now [12:03] Mez: aye son :) [12:04] Mez: and I rather make her smile if its up to me [12:04] :p [12:07] Mez: so, if poking me with big british poking pencil of doom makes her smile, so be it ;) [12:07] nah it's only when you upset her [12:07] hmh [12:08] shame :( [12:08] #i'd presume [12:09] I do remember poking someone with frightningly similar t-shirt that I've got with GUADEC 06 prints on it but with KDE logos with the Big British Pencil... [12:10] I don't remember being particularly upset then [12:13] Myrtti: I would love to get poked by you with KDE pen ;) [12:13] sorry, got only Ubuntu ones [12:14] ...and so the dreams do collapse [12:15] * Tm_T needs KDE mugs too, having some Ubuntu mugs already [12:27] Myrtti, :P [12:28] it was kinda eerie though [12:28] Myrtti, I do have to say that that was wardrobe fail when we both appeared to breakfast in blue t shirts with white collar, one Gnome, one KDE [12:28] I've dressed up for breakfast and idly walk to the hotel lobby when someone comes from outside from having a smoke [12:28] it was [12:28] Is this a riddle? [12:28] so should have got a photo of that [12:28] yup [12:29] should've asked neuro or someone to take a picture [12:29] lol - yeah [12:31] atleast it weren't similar trainers, and we weren't in Finland [12:31] then we would've heard about it till kingdom come [12:32] ? [12:33] couples jogging outside wearing similar jogging suits [12:35] here the instant comment would've been "OMG RELATIONSHIP!" [12:36] my hometown was actually in the national news once about jogging suits [12:36] Valkeakoski apparently is the capital of jogging suits [12:38] * Myrtti huggles her new cd's ♥ [12:39] Myrtti, nah - was just a wardrobe fail :D [12:39] now i know how it feels for the stereotypical woman to arrive at a party where someone else has the same outfit [13:51] wow those new plugins (or features for bt work really well :) [14:07] bazhang: :D [14:08] :) [14:09] Morning Baz [14:42] * Myrtti looks at her bed [14:43] I woke up at 5am this morning and couldnt fall back to sleep >:( [14:56] CREME EGG DAVIEY! [14:57] MWAHAHAHA [14:57] tis chocolate! [14:58] * Myrtti snickers [14:58] Myrtti, did I give you that Cadbury world flyer back? or put it back in the rack? [14:58] yeah you put it in the paper bag with the postcards [14:59] Mez: oi! [14:59] Daviey, :D [14:59] * Daviey has loose lips when intoxicated :( [15:00] Daviey: "I confess nothing" is a good policy [15:00] Myrtti: you never showed me the wonders of Emacs.. perhaps there are none. [15:00] Daviey, I think it was more the case of Xalior's vodka ;) [15:00] Daviey: tbh, I didn't take my laptop off the backpack whole weekend - was failure [15:01] yeah, my laptop didn't get switched on the whole weekend [15:01] mine was left on the whole weekend... [15:01] in the hotel room [15:02] I did keep ontop of email using the n810 \o/ [15:02] oh yeah, my phone bill for this month is already 18 euros [15:02] in contrast to the normal 3 [15:03] :( [15:03] snmpee [15:04] uninformed and arguing about it [15:04] where? [15:04] in #ubuntu [15:05] oh, right, there [15:05] didn't see him [15:05] ready to kick him [15:05] don't [15:06] he is flat-out wrong [15:07] but you kicking him because he disagrees isn't the way to do it - not that I've followed the conversation [15:07] he is full of such advice from what I have seen [15:08] just back away and deal the issue someplace else than #ubuntu [15:09] compile the driver? that is his advice. [15:10] I definitely need more coffee [15:10] right or wrong - just forget it and move along, or take somewhere private [15:11] just ignore wrong advice from him then? [15:11] no [15:11] that seems to be the message from Mez [15:11] you say it's wrong, explain why, and suggest that further discussion is private [15:11] or moved elsewhere [15:11] what she said. [15:11] that is how support works [15:12] bazhang, #ubuntu is for support. Arguments get in the way. Take it somewhere else. [15:12] the discussion about is offtopic [15:12] Or, just ignore him. If you think he's trolling, then DONT FEED THE TROLL [15:12] he has a history of giving bad advice [15:12] but - in any case - that behaviour is borderline [15:12] then bring him here so we can ask him about it [15:13] don't make decisions banning/kicking him on yourself [15:13] such cases tend to turn to "he's abusing his powers" screams [15:13] and - usually it is abusing your powers. [15:13] anyway, I REALLY need coffee. [15:13] I feel like an amoeba [15:15] I wash my hands of snmpee then [15:15] don't want to be seen as 'abusing my powers' :) [15:16] it's not abusing, we know it [15:16] thus the smiley :) [15:16] but the trolls have a tendency of screamin "did you notice how heandwho kicked me because didn't agree" [15:16] on multitude of channels [15:17] at any rate thank you Myrtti and Mez from pulling me back from committing a crime against humanity [15:17] hah [15:17] Rule #1 of IRC. Never ban someone you're involed with yourself - let someone else do it. [15:18] * bazhang turns 'abuse of power' button back below 11 [15:18] anyway, if he still continues, poke us so we're on track right away [15:18] Actually, that would be a good rule for us lot anyways [15:18] true [15:18] Mez: I thought it was - it's the oldest op rule in the world [15:18] I've always lived in that belief [15:18] Myrtti, but, I don't think its a policy [15:18] Guys, you might check the logs to see if he/she is ban evading.. [15:18] *shrug* [15:19] shades of robg [15:19] There were issues with snm yesterday [15:19] Mez: just another proof that I've been online on IRC way too long [15:19] yup [15:19] saw that Jack_Sparrow [15:19] !opguidelines [15:19] For information regarding guidelines that all Ubuntu operators should follow, please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines [15:20] got it bookmarked; read it daily :) [15:20] :-P [15:20] really! [15:20] I just do !prayer [15:21] that gets me thru daily IRC [15:21] makes a good bed time story for your kids.. :) [15:21] hehe [15:22] I've really been on IRC too long [15:22] ... daily age crisis again [15:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/SuggestedOpPolicy <-- what you guys think? [15:36] '/me formats correctly [15:38] oi [15:39] oi ? [15:39] dmseg in -ot [15:39] doing what? [15:39] just chatt... holy hell I need to turn autorealname off [15:41] he is a confusing person [15:42] or then there's two of them and I can't tell which [15:42] and I still haven't had any coffee [15:43] bazhang I just had a long heart to heart with snm ... I think things will go smoother now. [15:44] Jack_Sparrow, you are a better man than I [15:44] not at all [15:44] actually true :) [15:45] I must say I agree with him that envy isnt getting the job done.. [15:45] So - out of curiosity - they;'re awaiting 2 new people to IRCC? who's going? LjL? [15:45] apparently so [15:45] mmmmmmm coffee tasting tar [15:50] * Mez steals Myrtti [15:56] oooohhhh [15:56] Pici: http://irssi.org/documentation/special_vars [15:56] have you seen that` [15:57] Mez: OY! [15:57] ? [15:57] no stealin [15:57] :'( [15:58] * jussi01 wraps Myrtti in cotton wool and hands her to Mez [15:59] jussi01, make it bubble wrap, and we have a deal [15:59] pink cotton wool? [15:59] rofl [16:00] scented pink cotton wool? [16:00] * Myrtti gives jussi01 a hug [16:01] :) [16:01] * jussi01 wraps Myrtti in pink rose scented bubble wrap and sends her by express to Mez [16:01] * Myrtti purrs [16:01] ok, im off for a bit - talk to you all later [16:02] tatah [16:10] * Myrtti raises an eyebrow on dmseg on -ot [16:59] meh [17:00] ? [17:00] rodzerling is technically bypassing a ban/mute on -ot [17:01] Myrtti, how? [17:01] or was [17:01] hold on [17:02] @btlogin [17:03] yeah, according to the bantracker it's still there [17:03] that is a mute though [17:03] I think [17:03] %*!*@unaffiliated/rodserling [17:04] @btlogin [17:05] but it's touch and go [17:05] I'd wait for ompaul before doing anything - to remove or add a ban [17:05] * Mez is going to talk to him [17:08] forwarded here [17:12] alexbobp, how can we help? [17:13] Mez: I'm just wandering [17:13] ? [17:45] Myrtti: Nope, I dont think I've seen that. [17:55] viletimes in ubuntu recommending ubuntu issues are solved by installing dsl (damn small linux) [17:57] Zyna: It might help you narrow down the problem. If your machine can boot up DSL, then it doesn't like the Ubuntu spalsh screen. [17:57] bazhang, not really [17:58] I'd recommend trying some other livecd first [17:58] does knoppix have usplash kindathing [17:58] md5 the iso [17:58] bazhang, what he's saying is fine. [18:21] ho-hum. === jpds is now known as Guest44515 [18:53] I've got snmpee_ on my back again [18:54] noted [18:54] try to keep #ubuntu for support only [18:59] * Myrtti MEEPS [18:59] anyone awake? [19:00] Myrtti: nobody here but us chickens [19:01] meh [19:01] snmpee_ does seem a bit troublesome [19:02] @now Helsinki [19:02] Myrtti: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: July 22 2008, 21:02:57 - Current meeting: LoCo Council [19:08] hiya unca ompaul [19:09] unca un Californian ;-) [19:09] hiya [19:09] * ompaul looks as the last of the onjoin lag goes away [19:17] * Mez hugs ompaul [19:17] hiya Mez [19:17] ompaul - I wanted to give you a big hug at LRL - but didnt think you'd appreciate it [19:18] Mez, I goez to udss [19:18] ompaul, ? [19:18] sudo remind me [19:18] Mez, just a sec [19:18] ah, if we ever goto the same one [19:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jzGIaZcGcM <<<<< now there was a time and a day [19:19] dholbach ? [19:19] I was waiting for that at LRL [19:19] didn't take off. [19:19] hmph [19:19] ahhh [19:20] you see you have to blame a few people for that, in no particular order [19:20] orga, swat, treenaks, ompaul, mneptok, mrs-ompaul [19:21] we was in pub and had a photo of poor daniel with "long face is long" after a hard session [19:21] I someone said, if he gives hugs he should get some in return [19:21] then it was each person at the table, then it was group hug by the table, then whatever, EVERYONE AT UDS! [19:22] well lots of them [19:22] so orga beat the drums and so it happened [19:22] feels like so long ago now [19:22] Daviey_, we had an LRL in the mean time [19:22] and it was mean ... arrrrr [19:22] * ompaul beats himself up for bad pun [19:22] v. bad pun :) [19:23] * Daviey_ points out that ompaul got somewhat tipsy last Saturday night. [19:23] meh. [19:23] Daviey_, history distance travelling back from your current day to two time points [19:23] you can map it on some kind of an equation [19:23] too tired to do that :( [19:24] ompaul: I'M SORRY, OKAY? [19:25] don't be like that [19:25] you know I didn't mean it [19:25] SWAT, MAN NO IT IS NOT OKAY ;-) CAPS ARE BAD! [19:25] Myrtti: I don't want to be in a pm with snmpee_ [19:25] well then if the issue is taken care of, don't [19:26] meh [19:26] MEH I say, MEH [19:26] * Pici just got back to his desk from a long round of meetings, mostly pointless ones. [19:32] Pici: congrats [19:32] @schedule [19:32] PriceChild: Schedule for Etc/UTC: Current meeting: LoCo Council | 22 Jul 20:00: Ubuntu Web Presence Team | 22 Jul 21:00: EMEA membership meeting | 23 Jul 17:00: QA Team | 23 Jul 22:00: Platform Team | 24 Jul 13:00: Desktop Team [19:32] @now [19:32] PriceChild: Current time in Etc/UTC: July 22 2008, 18:32:53 - Current meeting: LoCo Council [19:38] I finally have time to do some packaging, great [19:48] meh [19:48] Yeah, today is a meh day. [19:50] Pici, meeting of fail? [19:50] ompaul: multiple meetings of fail. [19:51] multiple meeting failure [19:51] day adjourned, please prepare for tomorrow where we will re run today [19:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1rroUS_0g&feature=related iphone related freedome of sortes [19:57] so called professional body - please make sure you whitelist us [19:57]