[00:02] NCommander, okay, I advocated it. [00:02] finally! [00:03] * cody-somerville rolls eyes. :P [00:03] The package isn't debian perfect (I wish I could review like some of the debian folk can) but I don't think we'll have too much trouble getting it into the archive and soon into Debian. [00:04] cody can you go over mine then? please? [00:05] coppro, ermmm... I guess. I've probably missed my bus already anyhow., [00:05] coppro, link? [00:05] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk4 [00:05] thanks [00:45] ScottK: ping [00:46] any MOTUs around? [00:46] I am. [00:47] oh [01:18] coppro, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?package=libmk4 [01:22] nxvl, hey [01:25] cody-somerville: hi! [01:25] nxvl, want to do me a favour? :) [01:26] yup [01:26] shot === cprov is now known as cprov-zZz [01:30] thanks cody [01:31] cody-somerville: yes, sure [01:32] nxvl, I've been assisting NCommander over the last 24 hours to get his codeblocks package on revu in shape. [01:32] nxvl, I was wondering if maybe you could take a look to see if you'd be able to provide a second advocate so we can get it uploaded? [01:33] it takes an eternity to build [01:33] nxvl, hehe. It isn't so bad if you upload it to a PPA. [01:33] cody-somerville: i'm not a MOTU yet [01:33] nxvl, no? [01:33] nope [01:33] Sorry to bother you then. [01:33] np [01:54] okay, upstream includes an outdated config.guess, what do I do? [01:54] ask upstream to update it [01:54] in the meanwhile? [01:55] try to build it [01:56] sometime it includes some .in file or something that updates it [01:57] lintian gives an error :( [01:57] and apparently I can't just replace it [01:58] well [01:58] actually in that particular case i would: [01:59] a) ask upstream to include it and wait [01:59] done [01:59] b) patch it, and send the patch to upstream [02:03] I'm having a dependency issue building iriverter using pbuilder, can anyone help please? It builds fine under 8.0.4 (x86) but not in pbuilder. [02:04] how do I download the stuff necessary to pbuilder? [02:04] apt-get? [02:05] i don't understand the question [02:05] copro... stuff like?? sudo apt-get install pbuilder installs it for me. [02:05] not that, one moment [02:05] coppro, just copy over the config stuff over at build time and delete it in your clean statement. [02:05] ok ty [02:06] oh, it's just pbuilder completion being stupid [02:06] nvm [02:07] hmm... error is in satisfying the build dependencies [02:07] don't have any problems with hardy... [02:11] someone name a random universe package [02:11] exfalso [02:12] Very random. [02:13] coppro: Have you enabled universe in your pbuilder? [02:13] no [02:13] which is likely the case [02:13] *issue [02:17] jmarsden: something about depending on a virtual package I think [02:18] coppro: Yes, there's supposedly a table specifying how to satisfy such virtua dependencies... but man pbuilder doesn't seem to tell me where that table is... ? [02:19] it's a problem with the package source I think then [02:22] coppro: Well, iriverter is already packaged and so at some point I presume it must have built OK with pbuilder? I'm fixing a minor bug... bug fix is fine, but pbuilder won't build it, which irks me. [02:23] I wonder if the new openjdk stuff in Hardy changed something about Java package build depends? [02:23] try the --extra-packages option [02:23] OK, will do. [02:23] i don't know if it will really help but [02:23] its worth a try [02:29] coppro, I followed up [02:29] ok ty [02:30] * NCommander inhales [02:31] * NCommander begins hacking apart revu [02:31] thx for the feedback [02:36] can someone help me set up CDBS please? [02:37] coppro, what do you need to setup? [02:37] the whole thing [02:37] Run dh_make, and select CDBS [02:37] If its something that works via make/make install, it's pretty much done ;-) [02:38] hmm [02:39] damn it, brb [02:44] Would anyone like to be the second advocate of codeblocks? [02:45] I would like to be, but I'm not a MOTU :( [02:45] heh, its appericated [02:45] * NCommander watches keys get imported from launchpad [02:46] NCommander: You might want to try a smaller team. [02:46] what's the format for 00list? [02:46] wgrant, yeah, I discovered that the hard way [02:46] coppro, its just the patch names [02:46] ok [02:47] * NCommander has it pulls the keys from my personal launchpad team [02:47] it appears fetch-launchpad-keys ignores the config file [02:47] Quite possibly. [02:47] SOmewhat anonying [02:47] I don't like the hardcoded paths either :-/ [02:48] coppro: I think dpatch or whatever patch creation tool you are using should update 00list automagically? [02:49] I was converting from diff patches [02:49] OK. [02:50] * NCommander makes a test team [02:50] ahah [02:51] Cool, I can just use my username and get that one specific key :-) [02:52] yeah, it appears most/all of the scripts ignore the config file [02:52] (aside from the webpage) [02:56] great [02:56] I now have a random failure [02:57] oh, I know why [02:57] insidious [03:02] is there any way to change the name my packages are signed with by default? [03:02] coppro, define the env variables DEBNAME and DEBEMAIL [03:02] ok ty [03:10] * NCommander has a fully functional revu at 127.0.0.1 ^_^ [03:10] debuild should always be passed --lintian-opts -i [03:10] it should be a law or something [03:11] NCommander: Make sure you have it turn off email, though. [03:11] NCommander: I've spammed a few people with it once when I forgot to disable things. [03:11] Is there a handy disable switch? [03:11] Since my changes last week, I belive that altering the email address in the config will get everything to respect it, but I'd grep to make sure. [03:17] yay lintian-complaint-free! [03:23] Good evening! Is there an f-spot expert around? I have a little compilation/packaging problem to sort out with f-spot 0.4.4 for hardy... [03:24] RoAkSoAx: ping [03:25] just ask anyway [03:26] worst-case-scenario: no one can help [03:27] foxmike: ping [03:27] Here is the thing: f-spot seems to try to install upon compilation some data-hooks under /usr/lib, and that makes the compilation crash since it is done via debuild, with user permissions. I've located where in the Makefile it happens, but I don't know how to fix such thing... [03:27] ok [03:28] one moment, installing build-deps [03:28] ok thanks [03:29] odds are the makefile just needs to be changed to install to $(PREFIX)/usr/lib [03:31] ok, check I'll try this... I guess $(PREFIX) will be something like (put working directory here)/f-spot-0.4.4/debian/tmp or something? (sorry for the noob question, I'm fairly new to all this...) [03:32] it should be substituted in by the build system, but I'm not sure [03:32] so you're trying to compile 0.4.4 right? [03:33] where did you get the source from? [03:35] foxmike: I need a copy of the 0.4.4 source, may I ask where you got it? [03:35] Well, I got it from f-spot website I've copied the debian directory from 0.4.3... [03:35] ok [03:35] ty [03:35] thanks to you!:) [03:42] coppro: have you got it? If not, I can send you a copy... [03:42] yeah I've got it, and I think I have a better solution [03:43] go ahead [03:43] 0.4.4 is already in intrepid [03:44] http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/f/f-spot/f-spot_0.4.2-1ubuntu3_i386.deb [03:44] geez, I'm looking almost every day if it is there (I'm working on the package to learn, mostly...) and I didn't check today... anyway, I try to compile like this if it doesn't, well, I'll backport from intrepid!;) [03:44] thanks for the link [03:44] ok [03:49] It's still listed as f-spot0.4.2 on packages.ubuntu.com/f-spot ...:~ [03:52] thanks again coppro, I got to go! [03:56] nxvl, here! [03:56] Is this the wrong place for asking a question about packaging even if it's not a MOTU thing, or is there a better place for that? [03:56] nxvl, had to run for a while [03:57] (it is an Ubuntu thing, but not a MOTU thing.) [03:57] you can probably ask anyway [03:59] okay. What if I have a .deb I didn't make and I want to unpack it so I can make changes? I have lots of guides from various places telling me how to build them, but I haven't found how to unbuild them. [03:59] RoAkSoAx: ok [03:59] RoAkSoAx: stay here [03:59] vorian: ping [04:00] nxvl, k ;) [04:00] where did you get it from? [04:00] ideally, you want the source package [04:01] yo! [04:01] ok [04:01] vorian: this is RoAkSoAx, you mentee [04:01] RoAkSoAx: this is vorian, your mentor [04:01] :D [04:01] i hope you 2 the best on the mentoring program [04:01] howdy RoAkSoAx [04:01] make me proud! [04:01] vorian, master!! :D [04:01] hahaha [04:02] vorian, i'm ready to role xD [04:02] excellent [04:03] coppro: ah, that makes sense. I'll get that, then. [04:03] * marnanel used to know how to do this (at least to some extent), but it's been years... [04:03] well, the source package isn't necessarily the source code, it's the .diff.gz, .orig.gz, and .dsc [04:04] right [04:04] * marnanel has it now. yay [04:06] thanks. I will try this and see how it goes... [04:14] nxvl: Pong [04:16] ScottK: i was looking for you to mention my application, but you already replied, so nm [04:16] ScottK: and Thanks for the support [04:22] ScottK: you up for a REVU? [04:25] nxvl: You're welcome, you deserve it. [04:34] !seen [04:34] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen [04:34] any MOTUs willing to do a REVU? === asac_ is now known as asac [04:39] coppro> What package? [04:39] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=libmk4 [04:39] thanks [04:42] * LucidFox looks [04:51] coppro> commented [04:51] ty [04:51] one question [04:51] how do I get dh_install to install do a different name? [04:52] coppro, you can't [04:52] that's why I used regular install for lintian-overrides [04:52] Ah. [04:52] Then it's fine. [04:53] coppro, all the debhelper scripts have pretty comprehensive man pages. [04:53] yeah, that's what I thought [04:53] which is why I was pretty sure I was doing the right thing (as I understand it, intrepid has dh_lintian) [04:54] Isn't dh_lintian part of debhelper 7? [04:54] and you use 5 [04:58] I should use binary-indep for Python stuff, right? [05:03] binary-indep is for arch:all packages [05:04] oh, ok [05:04] wait, but Python is arch:all [05:06] cody-somerville, would you like the honor of sponsoring codeblocks, or should I do it? :) [05:07] ok, dumb question [05:07] how do you put a paragraph break in a long package description [05:07] . [05:07] LucidFox, what would you do differently? [05:07] a space, followed by a dot [05:08] ok ty [05:08] for example, I'd use install instead of cp [05:08] like coppro just did :) [05:09] great, now dpkg-source is complaining [05:09] and I'd remove the upstream debian from the orig.tar.gz rather than diffing against it [05:09] apparently the +x mode on my patchfiles won't get through to the diff... that's a problem [05:09] coppro> Python is arch:all, but your _own_ package should be arch:all to use -indep [05:10] yeah, my source package has a python component. I just haven't gotten around to packing it [05:10] along with the docs and the tcl [05:10] ah [05:10] I was making sure that went into -indep, which is what I figured [05:10] well, if it's a binding for a C library, then the C library will typically be arch:any and the binding will be arch:all [05:10] how do I deal with 'warning: executable mode 0755 of 'debian/patches/disable-test-cleanup.dpatch' will not be represented in diff' [05:11] Ignore it. [05:11] ok [05:14] ok, new version on REVU [05:14] and now that it's gotta be perfect i can get to the docs :P [05:16] should -dev recommend or suggest -doc? [05:20] jcastro: around? [05:22] NCommander, congratz. [05:23] yeah, congrats [05:23] on what? cody-somerville? [05:23] (I hope to enjoy your new package once 8.10 comes out) [05:23] NCommander, I just uploaded codeblocks. [05:23] * NCommander faints from shock [05:23] cody-somerville, why'd you feel the package didn't mean Debian expectations? [05:24] pretty good time from "decides to make package" to package [05:24] coppro, not really ... [05:24] NCommander, I don't think I said that. [05:24] Er, I thought someone did [05:24] But my memory is about as reliable as a Windows Vista workstation [05:25] can anyone point me in right direction to fix this issue in my intrepid chroot? next post will be error [05:25] debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed [05:25] Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) [05:25] dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statoverride file [05:25] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) [05:25] E: Failed to process build dependencies [05:25] oops way too many lines [05:26] gnomefreak, in your chroot, type: mount -t devpts none /dev/pts [05:26] And you probably need to manually add the Debian-exim group [05:26] (groupadd -s Debian-exim) [05:27] there is not option -s [05:27] what compression does .deb use? I thought it was .tar.gz, but that doesn't seem to be the case [05:28] isnt it zip? [05:28] cody-somerville, who was the other advocate? [05:28] LucidFoz [05:28] s/z/x/ [05:28] sweeeet [05:28] he advocated it when I asked him to check my package [05:28] I think [05:28] So he did it by mistake? [05:28] ... [05:28] no [05:29] Eh, if that what it takes ;-) [05:29] * NCommander watches Ubuntu suddenly explode in an amazing display of colors and Debian swirls [05:30] anyone know what compression format a .deb is? [05:30] ar archive [05:30] use ar x to extract [05:30] and the man page to determine how to compress [05:30] oh ok ty [05:30] ar r isn't it? [05:31] what is [--gid ID] [05:31] gnomefreak, the GID of the group you are creating [05:31] assuming group id [05:31] coppro, don't know off hand [05:31] how would i know what it is :( [05:32] make one up that isn't taken I guess [05:33] * NCommander loves looking at codeblocks in the archive [05:33] It's like [05:33] wow [05:33] I did that [05:34] is there a way to list all gids? [05:34] cat /etc/group [05:34] THe first number is the gid [05:34] Just pick an unusued one [05:34] thanks [05:34] cody-somerville, so now my package is in the NEW queue, right? [05:35] NCommander, correct. [05:35] So in seven days, I'll get the email notification about REJECT(ed) ;-) [05:36] NCommander, :) [05:36] it seems i cant use a number that isnt used already. error message addgroup: The user `125' does not exist. [05:37] gnomefreak, just do "groupadd -s Debian-exim" [05:37] Or loose the -s if it doesn't work [05:37] NCommander: cant -s isnt an option [05:37] then just groupadd Debian-exim [05:38] ok i did and got no output im gonna say this is good and i will try dpkg again thanks [05:38] Will version 1.7.dfsg be considered bigger than 1.7? [05:39] NCommander: it worked ;) [05:40] LucidFox, Well, if I remember how dpkg works, the string gets turned into numbers (its a char I think), and the greater sum is the higher package version. THat's why x86suse > ubuntu [05:40] Sadly :-/ [05:40] *char cast [05:46] http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Which-Internet.aspx - lol [05:48] ok, new confusion [05:48] upstream puts all the documentation in doc/ [05:48] * NCommander apt-get gets your confusion [05:49] all this needs to be put in /usr/share/doc/package/html [05:49] can I specify that somehow in package.docs? [05:49] it gets seriously confused if I just try doc/* [05:51] Can't you just list the path to the docs folder and it will recursively do the rest? [05:51] * NCommander admits its been awhile since he had such fuck [05:51] ... fun [05:51] damn it [05:51] Two thoughts crashed at extactly the same time; my pager going off, and that statement [05:52] it puts them all into the /usr/share/doc/package/ [05:52] how do I get it to go another level down [05:52] ,,? [05:52] er .. [05:52] I need it to be in /usr/share/doc/package/html/ [05:53] I'd just manually create the doc package with some fancy dh_install rules then ... [05:53] or I could just cp -a doc debian/tmp/html [05:53] and put debian/tmp/html into the .docs file [05:53] go for it [05:56] ok ill say you told me to do it lol [05:56] or you know what [05:56] 'doc' is an okay folder name [05:58] ack [05:59] what? [06:00] nm [06:00] * NCommander sends a rst packet into the channel [06:01] * coppro /clears [06:02] do we know status of ruby1.8? [06:03] * NCommander throws more rst packets and an x-mas tree too [06:04] * coppro clears multiple times [06:04] ow [06:09] I just came up with a new warning lintian should check [06:10] if there exists a debian/patches/*.dpatch and you don't build-depend dpatch, something is probably wrong [06:16] gaah! what options are there for Section: in a doc-base file? [06:17] found it [06:17] but the examples in the doc-base docs are invalid :( [06:19] wait, no [06:19] stupid lintian [06:22] its funny how chroot doesnt install apt [06:23] it doesn't? [06:23] nope [06:23] you used debootstrap right? [06:23] yes [06:24] well, my chroot has apt [06:24] i have 5 chroots set up intrepid is only one that doesnt install apt [06:24] not really much else, but it definitely has apt [06:24] root@Development:/# apt-get update [06:24] bash: apt-get: command not found [06:25] O.o [06:25] try reinstalling your chroot then? [06:25] coppro: 2 times [06:25] sudo chroot /chroot/intrepid [06:25] apt-get update [06:25] [06:25] ending up downloading it from p.u.c moving it to /var/chroot/intrepid/home and installing it with dpkg [06:27] this breakage is recent [06:27] last 7 days or so [06:28] I made my chroot yesterday [06:28] or the day before, I forget [06:31] i had one set up last week but i had broken it so im setting it up again. last week apt was installible [06:31] -i +a [06:32] I just made another one: [06:32] I: Retrieving Release [06:32] I: Retrieving Packages [06:32] I: Validating Packages [06:32] I: Resolving dependencies of required packages... [06:32] I: Resolving dependencies of base packages... [06:32] I: Found additional base dependencies: libgnutls26 [06:32] I: Checking component main on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu... [06:32] I: Retrieving adduser [06:32] I: Validating adduser [06:32] I: Retrieving apt [06:32] so there [06:32] * coppro ducks from the spam police [06:33] is /usr/bin in your $PATH? [06:36] coppro: it is [06:36] wow something is messed up on your end then [06:37] yep fixing it as we speak [06:39] how in gods name am i gonna get a root/sudo dhell to install sudo [06:40] from a chroot? [06:40] or does your system not have sudo installed? [06:40] if the latter, and if root has no password (the default on ubuntu), you have to boot into single-user-mode [06:41] from a chroot but sudo never got installed in the chroot [06:41] you start with a root shell in a chroot [06:41] su doesnt work [06:41] doesn't need to [06:41] you are root [06:41] just apt-get install sudo [06:42] (intrepid)gnomefreak@Development:~/downloads$ apt-get install sudo [06:42] E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) [06:42] E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? [06:42] i downloaded it but cant use sudo dpkg [06:42] you have chrooted in? [06:42] yes (intrepid)gnomefreak@Development:~/downloads$ [06:42] that's not right [06:42] sure it is [06:42] why isn't it a root shell [06:43] chroot can only be run as root and gives a root shell [06:43] none of mine are [06:43] coppro: nope it runs fine without root shell [06:43] I have never heard of chroot not giving a root shell [06:43] shares ~/ [06:44] ok wait close out of everything [06:44] go back to your normal shell [06:44] coppro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot?highlight=(chroot) [06:44] and 'sudo chroot /var/chroot/intrepid' [06:44] and that gives me the same tht i was in [06:45] that should be a root shell [06:45] the chroot is set up already but somehow the packages didnt install [06:45] coppro: no its not Setting up a dchroot (non-root) environment [06:46] oh [06:46] on the link i gave you [06:46] you are supposed to install sudo first, before you mess with the other stuff [06:47]