[00:01] <cppmonkey> I deleted all the old deb packages. so I have 156MB free before I login
[00:01] <cppmonkey> Any other things I could clear off would be great
[00:05] <evil_tech> thunar can't browse network file shares like nautilus does can it?
[00:08] <evil_tech> anyone?
[00:16] <cppmonkey> cheers Stroganoff
[00:18] <evil_tech> anyone?
[00:19] <cppmonkey> id help if I knew, thats one of the probs I have with Xubuntu.
[00:41] <Stroganoff> cppmonkey it can
[00:41] <Stroganoff> http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/FuseSMB
[00:42] <Stroganoff> you should be able to uninstall old kernels with synaptic
[00:43] <Stroganoff> you can run sudo apt-get autoremove or even deborphan
[00:43] <cppmonkey> Stroganoff, if I login in with the GUI it makes my HD issue even worse, eBox web interface stops working
[00:43] <zoredache> if you are really hurting for space don't be afraid to remove the 'xubuntu-desktop' package.
[00:43] <cppmonkey> ive tried autoremove
[00:44] <cppmonkey> tried to remove the old kernal install 2.6.24-16
[00:44] <Stroganoff> HD issue?
[00:44] <cppmonkey> well I mean the space
[00:44] <Stroganoff> so its full?
[00:44] <cppmonkey> reduces the space from 158MB to 69MB
[00:45] <cppmonkey> from what I understand the last 5% is reserved
[00:46] <cppmonkey> and its 96% full
[00:46] <zoredache> you really don't want to get that full... You start getting lots of fragmentation
[00:47] <cppmonkey> its CF card, so not as bad as it if wear a HD... but still not good
[00:47] <cppmonkey> think Im going to have to order a new 4GB card to replace this 2GB one
[00:48] <zoredache> if you don't care about docs you could truncate everything in /usr/share/doc/*
[00:48] <cppmonkey> thought 2GB would have been enough for basic OS with GUI to use as a router
[00:48] <zoredache> cppmonkey: most people don't put a gui on a router
[00:49] <zoredache> you build a web-interface for something like that
[00:50] <cppmonkey> its an actual PC, if you class an Via Epia PC as one... My mum uses it to surf the internet
[00:50] <cppmonkey> thats what eBox is for
[00:51] <cppmonkey> the main reason im using a non server version is because im still learning the ropes. I did try Ubuntu Server but it didnt have wvdial and it didnt reconize my E220 modem
[03:18] <idineonshit> I LIKE TO DINE ON MY OWN SHIT
[03:22] <idineonshit> windows xp is more lite than xubuntu\]'['
[03:26] <idineonshit> HAHAHA
[03:28] <idineonshit> Xubuntu uses 298MB ram while xp uses 93MB on a clean install
[03:29] <idineonshit> Proves XFCE and xubuntu suck
[03:30] <idineonshit> peace out
[03:30] <idineonshit> !ops
[03:30] <ubottu> Help! somerville32, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, Gloubiboulga, Nalioth, Seveas, tonyyarusso,  PuMpErNiCkLe, apokryphos or gnomefreak
[03:30] <idineonshit> !ops
[03:31] <idineonshit> !ops
[05:07] <homebrewcider> hi there, small problem, I went to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 via the alternate cd on 2 computers, 1 worked okay, the other, this one, seemed to go through the motions but still shows "upgrade available" at the update manager. When I click that "upgrade available" button, nothing seems to happen and it still shows  "upgrade available
[05:21] <Spender> Hey Can I use the latest xUbuntu 8.04 on xbox?
[09:34] <fistelsork> hi, it seems my WPA key isn't saved in the network configuration. i have to enter it every time for the wireless net to work
[09:36] <fistelsork> any ideas?
[11:25] <klos> hey whats the optimal hardware for xubuntu ???
[11:25] <TheSheep> klos: optimal for doing what?
[11:28] <klos> for unning it properly :)
[11:28] <klos> ive got an old ibm notebook here
[11:28] <klos> live install system is a pain but im wondering if it works better when its installed
[11:30] <TheSheep> it does, especially with low ram
[11:30] <TheSheep> but most of the time it's the actual application you are rnning that requires certain hardware
[11:30] <TheSheep> so it depends on what you do
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[13:10] <homebrewcider> hi there, small problem, I went to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 via the alternate cd on 2 computers, 1 worked okay, the other, this one, seemed to go through the motions but still shows "upgrade available" at the update manager. When I click that "upgrade available" button, nothing seems to happen and it still shows "upgrade available
[13:11] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: what does 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' show?
[13:12] <homebrewcider> <The following packages are unused and will be REMOVED:
[13:12] <homebrewcider>   amaya-data libraptor1 libwww-ssl0
[13:12] <homebrewcider> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:12] <homebrewcider> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 8770kB will be freed.
[13:12] <homebrewcider> Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
[13:12] <homebrewcider> >
[13:13] <TheSheep> use pastebin next time %)
[13:14] <homebrewcider> yeah sorry
[13:14] <TheSheep> looks like it wants to remove some packages that re not in 8.04 anymore
[13:15] <homebrewcider> shall I click yes
[13:16] <TheSheep> depends on what you want to achieve :)
[13:16] <TheSheep> you need these packages?
[13:16] <homebrewcider> I did, I'll see what happens
[13:17] <TheSheep> famous last words
[13:18] <homebrewcider> hehe
[13:18] <homebrewcider> http://pastebin.ca/1056362
[13:19] <TheSheep> this apstebin sure is slow
[13:20] <TheSheep> looks good
[13:22] <homebrewcider> hmm
[13:23] <homebrewcider> looks good?
[13:23] <TheSheep> yeah
[13:23] <TheSheep> should be fixed now
[13:25] <homebrewcider> so I try upgrading again?
[13:25] <homebrewcider> is that what you mean?
[13:30] <TheSheep> no, it's fully upgraded already
[13:30] <TheSheep> the zeroes say so
[13:31] <homebrewcider> oh, it still says upggrade available on the update manager page
[13:34] <TheSheep> must be bug in the update manager
[13:34] <homebrewcider> ok cheers
[13:34] <homebrewcider> thanx
[13:35] <homebrewcider> the appearance of this computer didn't change, the other one, I did 2, changed markedly, different login screen
[13:37] <TheSheep> hmm... what does /etc/apt/sources.list say, feisty or hardy?
[13:38] <homebrewcider> checking
[13:39] <homebrewcider> top line says   >   deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/ gutsy main restricted
[13:40] <TheSheep> hm... so it didn't add the hardy cd as a source
[13:40] <TheSheep> or are there other lines?
[13:41] <homebrewcider> I'll pastebin the whole lot if you want
[13:43] <homebrewcider> http://pastebin.ca/1056386
[13:48] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: no hardy anywhere
[13:49] <homebrewcider> exactly, that's my point, it seems to have done nothing
[13:49] <homebrewcider> but I did exactly the same as for the opther computer
[13:49] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: you could try to add the cd as software source manually, with the software sources tool
[13:50] <homebrewcider> ok
[13:51] <homebrewcider> A distribution volume with software packages has been detected.
[13:51] <homebrewcider> Would you like to try to upgrade from it automatically?
[13:51] <homebrewcider> what I got last time
[13:51] <TheSheep> fun
[13:51] <homebrewcider> start ppackage manager? or run upgrade?
[13:52] <TheSheep> no idea
[13:53] <homebrewcider> seems I'm gonna say those famous last workds again
[13:53] <homebrewcider> ok, i'll give it a shot
[13:53] <homebrewcider> thanx
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[14:01] <MrNaz> i'm using transmission bittorrent client. i can get 500kb/s+ to an ftp site, but my torrents never go over about 100kb/s even when i have many loaded
[14:01] <MrNaz> i've got the outgoing data speed limited at about half my connection speed
[14:02] <MrNaz> is transmission just a poor implementation or could there be something else at work ?
[14:07] <spasticteapot> Is there a tutorial anywhere for reducing the RAM use of Xubuntu?
[14:07] <spasticteapot> I've been told Evolution is a RAM-hog - can it be safely removed?
[14:07] <Myrtti> since when has evolution been installed with xubuntu?
[14:07] <Myrtti> or are you talking about evolution-data-servers or such?
[14:16] <MrNaz> spasticteapot if you need lower usage than xubuntu then realistically, ubuntu isnt really what you're after
[14:16] <MrNaz> try perhaps a base debian install with fluxbox
[14:18] <MrNaz> i havent tried it but its supposed to be lean and mean
[14:25] <firsm> Hi, I'm trying to get the video thumbnailer working for thunar, I've installed ffmpegthumbnailer, the .desktop is correctly placed under /usr/share/thumbnailers and ffmpegthumbnailer -i video.avi -o test.png works correctly as well, but thunar still doesn't show any video thumbnails - any ideas?
[14:26] <TheSheep> firsm: maybe you must first delete all the failed thumbnails
[14:28] <firsm> TheSheep: I deleted ~/.thumbnails, but that didn't help
[14:30] <firsm> eh, works after having ran thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 :-)
[14:30] <firsm> *run
[14:30]  * TheSheep makes a note
[14:34] <firsm> thunar rocks, hehe
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[16:02] <CGI353> has anyone here experienced problems using vuze after switching to the classic interface?
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[16:08] <mortal1> does xubuntu really use that much less ram than ubuntu?  honestly I haven't noticed much of a diff between the two
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[16:08] <mortal1> though, perhaps xub is a little faster
[16:13] <TheSheep> mortal1: you can make it use less
[16:48] <TheBlackMessiah> servus
[16:48] <TheBlackMessiah> ich hätte mal ne frage und zwar
[16:48] <TheBlackMessiah> WIe kann ich mit xubuntu live auf die festplatte zugreifen?
[16:49] <TheSheep> !de | TheBlackMessiah
[16:49] <ubottu> TheBlackMessiah: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:49] <TheBlackMessiah> danke
[16:51] <wozz> "German speaking help for problems with ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu, find yourself in the channels..."
[16:51] <wozz> oh german, you so crazy
[16:52] <TheSheep> wozz: can I help you?
[16:52] <TheSheep> :)
[16:53] <wozz> nay
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[20:22] <lewisrjc> hey, so I am getting a problem with xfce
[20:24] <lewisrjc> when I log in it gives me a blue background and no panels
[20:26] <lewisrjc> hmm, so you have to manually launch xfce4-panel?
[20:26] <lewisrjc> werid
[20:28] <lewisrjc> /werid/weird
[20:34] <Riotta> lewisrjc: let me ask you one question did you installed xubuntu-desktop meta package or... you used xubuntu install cd to install xfce
[20:38] <lewisrjc> xubuntu-desktop
[20:38] <lewisrjc> it works now, I had to manually start the xubuntu panels, and then log off with that running
[20:38] <lewisrjc> which saved the start that up at login
[21:43] <mrwislr> hi everyone
[21:43] <mrwislr> having some trouble with firefox and xubuntu
[21:45] <mrwislr> it seems that when i'm downloading a file, usually a document,  it does not give the option to "open with"  it only gives me the option to save the file or cancel.... i tried installing firefox-gnome-support   which was suggested but with no luck         anyone know how to solve this problem?
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[21:59] <mrwislr> anyone had that trouble with firefox?
[22:00] <TheSheep> mrwislr: network-mounted home directory?
[22:01] <TheSheep> mrwislr: ah, sorry, ignore me
[22:27] <xbitcarry> Good day.
[22:29] <TheSheep> hel-lo xbitcarry
[22:30] <xbitcarry> TheSheep.... nice nick...
[22:33] <Genelyk> Hi
[22:33] <xbitcarry> Genelyk.
[22:37] <FunkyWyrm> Hiya folks. I've tried linux distributions before but always failed :( It seems I might fail with Xubuntu also... I can't seem to get it to install on my old laptop
[22:39] <FunkyWyrm> It's a Sony qr10 with 320Mb RAM, 650 celeron processor and 10Gb hard drive so there should be no problems. The desktop boot disk checks out ok but seems to hang soon after I select Install from the main window
[22:39] <Odd-rationale> FunkyWyrm: have you tried the alternative install cd?
[22:40] <Odd-rationale> !alternative
[22:40] <ubottu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[22:40] <Odd-rationale> whoops, ubottu has the wrong link...
[22:40] <FunkyWyrm> ok. will try that... ran out of blank cds trying to get a decent image though
[22:41] <FunkyWyrm> :S
[22:41] <xbitcarry> I'll back...
[22:42] <FunkyWyrm> Thanks for the advice on the alternate cd. Was just wondering if this ws a common problem.
[22:42] <FunkyWyrm> *was
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso
[22:42] <Odd-rationale> there is the correct link...
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> here is for all download options: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/
[22:43] <FunkyWyrm> Thanks. I'll bookmark it.
[22:43] <Odd-rationale> np
[23:10] <xbitcarry> Yas'ta.
[23:12] <xbitcarry> I need a little help.
[23:12] <Odd-rationale> !ask
[23:12] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:14] <xbitcarry> Ja ja ja, ok, I'm thinking how to explain, because I don't speak english well, je je je
[23:14] <xbitcarry> Ok.
[23:15] <xbitcarry> I work in a office.
[23:15] <xbitcarry> I'm using xubuntu.
[23:15] <xbitcarry> And we have a printer (samsung 1610) but it's shared with xp in other machine.
[23:16] <xbitcarry> I tried to configure it using CUPS (127.0.0.1:631) but I don't find it in the network.
[23:17] <xbitcarry> In fact, I don't know if i have configured network!
[23:17] <xbitcarry> I've installed SAMBA, but I don't know how to probe if the network is working.
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[23:18] <Odd-rationale> whoops. wrong one...
[23:18] <xbitcarry> By the way, I'm using xubuntu 6.10 LTS.
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> xbitcarry: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPPrinter
[23:21] <xbitcarry> Ok, let me see...
[23:21] <xbitcarry> Thnak's for the link.
[23:27] <xbitcarry> Ups, in xubuntu I don't have the printers menú, only  in CUPS, but ask me for user and pass, i've tried with my user and pass and isn't.
[23:28] <xbitcarry> I've tried with guest and not work.
[23:29] <Odd-rationale> xbitcarry: well, i really don't have much experience with network printing... sorry...
[23:30] <xbitcarry> Ok, Odd-rationale, thank's anyway.
[23:30] <xbitcarry> Someonce else?
[23:31] <xbitcarry> ubottu?
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> ubottu is a bot.
[23:33] <ubottu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[23:33] <zoredache> ubottu: will you be my friend?
[23:33] <ubottu> zoredache: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:33] <xbitcarry> Ja ja ja
[23:33] <xbitcarry> Nice...
[23:34] <xbitcarry> TheSheep?
[23:34] <xbitcarry> lanXX?
[23:34] <TheSheep> xbitcarry: no, sorry, I hate cups
[23:34] <zoredache> xbitcarry: printing is a fairly generic issue... you could ask in #ubuntu
[23:34] <TheSheep> I think there are some manuals
[23:34] <TheSheep> on xubuntuguide
[23:59] <floating> how can i check or install if i miss some of the files listed in http://up.k10x.net/vlteuhgdqxrow/readme.txt