[00:02] nickserv has problems [00:02] thats for sure [00:02] ha [00:02] i am now +u again ;) [00:02] nickserv just had a _huge_ delay [00:02] fta: better? [00:03] yep n=asac@debian/developer/asac on both nick [00:04] thx [00:07] hmmm ... why is mysql-common pulled in by build-essential? [00:07] yes, except that xchat doesn't refresh === asac_ is now known as asac [00:09] Will xpi.mk look only in chrome/ for locale, skin and content dirs, or will it parse them from chrome.manifest? the first? [00:10] oh, it will follow the MOZ_XPI_BUILD_COMMAND [00:10] Jazzva: good question ;) [00:10] yeah [00:11] not sure if i added a "generic" command [00:11] but i dont think so [00:11] can't find one... Anyway, can i call build.xml somehow? [00:11] Jazzva: i think there is certainly a need for a unified script that unpacks and xpi to our standard format [00:11] and a script for the other direction [00:11] both could go into mozilla-devscripts.mk [00:12] and we could use one by default for MOZ_XPI_BUILD_COMMAND [00:12] if we dont have a .xpi in top level folder [00:12] Jazzva: yes you can run ant [00:12] :) [00:12] Aren't we going for packaging with unpacked xpi's? :) [00:12] for build.xml style sources the BUILD_COMMAND is just "ant" :) [00:12] Yay. I can clean my rules file :) [00:13] Jazzva: obviously as we want things to be in branches [00:13] Jazzva: you need to build depend on ant of course [00:13] Just asking, cause you mentioned "unpacks and xpi to our ..." [00:13] Jazzva: dont understand your question then ;) [00:14] Jazzva: ah sorry [00:14] didnt read "aren't" :) [00:14] yes we are ;) [00:14] good :) [00:15] Ok then... just to test-build it and test-run it and it will be pushed. I think it might be good for tb and songbird too... it's sort of mentioned in chrome.manifest.packaging... [00:15] * Jazzva googles about c.m.p file [00:16] Jazzva: hmm [00:16] Wow... 4-5 results for that file :) [00:16] Jazzva: are tbird and sonbird in install.rdf too? [00:16] And seems foxyproxy is the only one that uses it [00:16] yes [00:17] have to check if this id is for tb, though [00:18] I think it's flock [00:18] Jazzva: flock is: {a463f10c-3994-11da-9945-000d60ca027b} [00:18] that's the one [00:18] (install.rdf open in another window ;)) [00:18] ok [00:18] Jazzva: try if it works in midbrowser ;) [00:18] add that one in the "ubuntu" branch ;) [00:18] if it works [00:19] last time i tried I couldn't run midbrowser... [00:19] Jazzva: hmm compiz? [00:19] Jazzva: disable desktop effects. then it should start. next upload will fix that [00:19] dunno if I used compiz then... Anyway, since I stopped using it, I'll try it again :) [00:19] {aa5ca914-c309-495d-91cf-3141bbb04115} [00:20] thats the id [00:20] It doesn't show up in install.rdf. What are the min and maxVersion, so I can add them? [00:20] /usr/lib/midbrowser/application.ini [00:20] has the current version [00:21] k [00:21] 0.3.0rc1 [00:21] i think its ok to use 0.3.0 as maxVersion [00:21] hm, my clamav-milter on hardy dies a couple of times per hour :( [00:21] I need to install it first in intrepid chroot, so it'll take a while... ~20 minutes [00:22] Jazzva: midbrowser is small [00:22] should take a second ;) [00:22] But it still has deps ;) [00:22] if you have xul [00:22] ok [00:22] fta: i think thats a topic best dealt with on #ubuntu-server :) [00:23] i know, i'm just complaining ;) [00:23] hehe [00:23] i am using clamav on etch ;) [00:23] that is rock solid. but i have no clue if it ever found a virus :) [00:23] asac: you know if exist a way to be noticed when a new appversion is added here? ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/pages/appversions ) [00:23] it started to die yesterday for me [00:24] fta: hardware? or was there a sec update or something? [00:24] Volans: why do you want that? [00:25] on Mozilla Addon site you can upload only extension with min e max version declared there as I know [00:25] Volans: you should use 3.0.* [00:25] as maxVersion [00:25] thats what we use [00:26] Volans: for trunk i think that AMO site bumps your maxVersion automatically [00:26] at least reed said so iirc [00:26] that does not happen to my extension... and the new version is still waiting an editorial review to be publicated [00:27] for 3.1a1pre ? [00:28] 1.0.6.1 version had 3.0pre, 1.0.6.2 have 3.0.* [00:28] ok. yeah [00:28] thats good then [00:28] not sure about the AMO procedure. sorry [00:29] no problem [00:34] midbrowser works :) [00:37] now to get another 30MB of ant and it's deps... [00:49] yay, java [00:50] assembler and linker projects were required to be coded in java... don't ask me why... i has no idea [00:52] * Jazzva spends a lot of time on icanhascheezburger, apparently [00:52] *i have no idea :) [00:54] Jazzva: well. imo you could also teach students to write java op-code [00:54] instead of assembler [00:54] is quite similar and is at least usable on all platforms that have a vm [00:54] :) [00:55] true... I think that's a project that I'm gonna do next year [00:55] i doubt that anyone will become a real assembler wizard during class anyway [00:55] to make java op-code :) [00:55] its more about "getting the idea" :) [00:56] I agree. that's what we were doing. The instruction op-codes were different from the real one, only 7 instructions used. Just to get the basic concept :) [00:56] Jazzva: yeah ;) [00:56] then go and use a java VM ... its a simple machine so quite a good thing to learn on [00:56] maybe makes sense then ;) [00:57] well, I'll study it next year, for sure :)... [00:58] Jazzva: in which direction do you want to go? [00:59] if you take too classes on low level programming ;) [00:59] two [00:59] It's not my decision. Everyone has them on this department... [00:59] which department? [00:59] But I found assembling and linking quite interesting [01:00] it would be something like dept of computer sciences [01:00] ok so not a sub-department of computer science ;) [01:00] nope [01:01] Jazzva: you know that we have assembler code in mozilla :) [01:01] Damn, wanted to show you my courses list, but it's available only in Serbian [01:01] you probably wanna help fixing mips :) [01:01] Hehe... dunno if I'm that good :). [01:01] ...dunno if I'm good at all :) [01:02] http://www.etf.bg.ac.yu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=70&Itemid=83 ... maybe you can manage to understand something. [01:02] http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix/xptcinvoke_asm_mips.s [01:04] http://lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/source/xpcom/reflect/xptcall/src/md/unix/xptcstubs_asm_shle.s [01:04] wow... had no idea :) [01:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/22738/ [01:04] those are all .s files [01:04] there is also some nested assembler in some .cpp files iirc [01:06] most likely more assembler than in the kernel ;) [01:06] hehe [01:07] I can barely understand code... but have no idea what it does. Is this _asm_shle.s for "go to label, then do these instructions, and call some other function"? [01:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/22739/ [01:08] :) [01:08] thats the kernel .S files ;) [01:09] Jazzva: a good thing is to look at how syscalls are implemented on various archs [01:09] e.g. how to get messages from user-space to kernel :) [01:09] I'll put it on my todo list:) [01:10] its not that hard to understand [01:10] some platforms even have a C implementation [01:10] others need assembler [01:10] ;) [01:10] linux has c implementation, right? [01:13] it has :) [01:14] Jazzva: ? [01:14] Jazzva: linux support various architectures. i think x86 has pure C implementation for syscall [01:15] others dont have [01:15] I suppose I found that one :) [01:15] Jazzva: good :) [01:16] Jazzva: you also have to look at the libc part i guess [01:16] to get the complete picture [01:17] ok :) [01:17] thanks [01:22] foxyproxy puts it's xpi in ../targets/. Is it ok if I patch build.xml to put it in .? [01:24] looks like i can't... It removes the contents of the that dir before build :) [01:26] Jazzva: yes. if that patch isnt too intrusive [01:26] e.g. if its just a few lines that ok [01:26] One line, though it erases the whole contents, so it's pointles... [01:26] if done on ubuntu branch - but i guess thats what you are talking about ;) [01:26] right :) [01:34] thats painful [01:34] git-core merge looked good. now it fails two test cases [01:34] what a shame [01:35] hmm git-svn [01:35] perl: /build/buildd/subversion-1.5.0dfsg1/subversion/libsvn_ra/ra_loader.c:674: svn_ra_get_dir: Assertion `*path != '/'' failed. [01:52] good night and good work... see you [01:59] foxyproxy is recognized in midbrowser [02:00] but it reports an error that it can't read settings in .mozilla/midbrowser/profile/foxyproxy.xml and that it should be reported to the developers [02:00] i'll check if it exists in fx3 too [02:02] it works. it checks if it's a new installation in fx, if the settings file is not found. but it doesn't do that in midbrowser. [02:03] is "profile" a placeholder in the path you posted? [02:03] yes [02:03] otherwise the dir doesnt exist [02:03] k [02:04] :) [02:04] Jazzva: who dod the ytest i fits a new installation? [02:04] damn ;) [02:05] huh? :) [02:05] how do they test if its a new installation? [02:05] it reports this in case of fx: "FoxyProxy: Unable to read preference extensions.foxyproxy.settings in getSettingsURI(). Checking for new installation." [02:05] I'm looking at the code now [02:06] Jazzva: look in chrome.manifest [02:06] you can configure appid=.... there [02:06] to do special things for special apps ;) [02:06] maybe they do that [02:06] it writes it out here components/foxyproxy.js:341 [02:41] asac, they do set different stuff for different apps in chrome.manifest. I tried just to add another set of settings for midbrowser, but it's not working. I'll just prepare the merge now, without changing this, and then we'll see in the upload after merge :) [03:38] The QA tracker is smarter than I am. What do I click on to find the actual test you want done? [03:47] ScottK, for the first two tests (normal use with new and existing profile) there are no special tests. Just do your normal browsing and report if any glitch occurs. [03:48] ScottK, for the third test, there's a link to , which provides the testplan [03:57] What are the links for the first two? [03:59] ScottK, there are no links to testplan for the first two. The links for reporting section depends on which package are you testing [04:00] The testplan could be "Go around the usual sites you visit everyday for 15 minutes, and see if something bad and different happens." [04:02] Ah. [04:02] OK. [04:02] I can do that. [04:02] Thanks for doing that :) [05:19] FYI, got another flash related crash in dapper. (firefox-bin:28048): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_quark_from_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed [05:19] (firefox-bin:28048): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_notify_queue_thaw: assertion `nqueue->freeze_count > 0' failed. [05:24] This was with the Adobe flash plugin that is installed by the Plugin Finder Server. Again was not reproduced (so again probably not worth worrying about?) [05:40] I don't quite get why Ubuntu keeps the Firefox name while Debian doesn't... is Ubuntu getting special approval from Mozilla for the Firefox modifications it makes? [05:48] hello [09:45] asac: are you here yet? [10:02] * gnomefreak think he bumped his head way too damn hard to want to add 20 more packages to our maintaining list :( [10:06] gnomefreak: sure [10:06] gnomefreak: yeah. thats shirish idea [10:08] what order for nss nspr i cant remember im thinking nspr first than nss [10:10] gnomefreak: you are right! [10:10] yay :) [10:10] * asac hugs gnomefreak [10:10] ;) [10:10] respin firefox as well (atleast should need to) [10:10] * gnomefreak hugs asac [10:11] gnomefreak: if its about the nss upgrade bug, I just want nss built on gutsy [10:11] to reproduce [10:11] no need for ffox [10:12] ok [10:12] ill have them uploaded in next couple of hours i just want to get updates and shit done first [10:13] thx [10:13] np [10:14] fta: firefox-3.0 from your ppa is being kept back (i would assume depends issue) xul went through so i will check after that [10:15] asac: what are we doing with bugs on extensions that we dont maintain? [10:15] gnomefreak: which extension? [10:15] IMHO we should close them or add them as wishlist if user wants them from us [10:15] s3fox [10:15] see bug 242741 [10:16] hmmmmm [10:16] botty [10:16] im asking about him now [10:17] gnomefreak: that bug is "invalid". he should report it to the extension author (unless we have that extension packaged or that extensions is _really_ important) [10:17] ok i will mark and comment as such [10:17] great [10:17] bots ISP is having issues trying to get an alt. in here [10:18] we wont have bot for a while, it should be worked out by end of day just not sure whos day [10:18] ha [10:19] well. i think we can live without a bot for a day ;) [10:19] can we? [10:19] Hey [10:19] yep should beable to [10:19] hi anakron_ [10:19] hi [10:19] someone is of mozillateam?? in LP? [10:19] hi [10:19] :) [10:19] both of us [10:19] ok [10:19] + others as well :) [10:19] i need to know something [10:20] feel free to ask [10:20] cause i wana help like a beta testers for mozilla [10:20] but im using ubuntu intrepid [10:20] anakron_: then you are already a big-beta tester ;) [10:20] anakron_: do you want _more_ recent crack? [10:21] fta: here is the error The following packages have unmet dependencies: firefox-3.0: Depends: xulrunner-1.9 (>= 1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu3) but 1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu3~fta3 is to be installed [10:21] gnomefreak: darn. my by [10:21] my bad [10:21] asac: oh thats you? [10:21] :) [10:21] lol [10:21] im looking at http://mozilla.qa.ubuntu.com/ [10:21] for any version for intrepid [10:21] but i cant find one at least! [10:22] * gnomefreak not real sure if we have intrepid packages up there for testing [10:22] anakron_: ah. well. firefox 2 isnt supported in intrepid anymore [10:22] anakron_: have you received the mail? [10:22] :O yeah [10:22] anakron_: there are other options to help out: you can just use virtualbox to install one of the stable releases [10:22] so, what i can do to [10:22] asac: maybe add devel releases to testing in late alpha so our changes are in and we work on them for bugs at that time [10:22] jaja [10:23] i cant use it cause my hardware will get burn xD [10:23] anakron_: chroots :) [10:23] i have a Pentium IV 1600MHZ with 320mb RAM [10:23] so, its like a dream to run a virtualmachine [10:24] i know that i can use chroot, but my hardware is a limit for my dreams [10:24] anakron_: yeah [10:25] crap. someone pplease let me know when Jazzva starts on the extension pages :( [10:25] anakron_: you are brave enough testing intrepid already. so if your hardware doesnt allow stable testing, thats fine [10:26] asac: oh shit i didnt give you important bug you needed to look at :( be right back let me find it [10:26] thanks for the answer [10:26] see you later [10:26] anakron_: cu [10:26] better [10:26] see you soo [10:26] asac: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/196202 [10:26] soon [10:27] IMHO its the way it should work :( maybe im confused but sounds like he wants natulis to open ftp only [10:28] gnomefreak: the issue here is that the ftp server was added to gconf [10:28] errr, the ftp handler [10:29] and thats ff issue? [10:29] im gonna assume whom ever did it meant it to happen that way hense not a bug [10:29] gnomefreak: not sure :). but i assume so [10:30] gnomefreak: ask them to figure out when and how the ftp handler ended up in gconf [10:30] next who did it is gonna be hard to find out [10:30] they most likely did it once manually [10:30] ill ask [10:32] i asked [10:33] in bug report atleat [10:33] atleast [10:35] but please ask in -devel if you know who to ask (might want to start with seb.) [10:36] gnomefreak: i think it he cannot reproduce this bug, we can just close it [10:37] the ftp bug? [10:37] y [10:37] reproduce as in "reset the gconf key", then does firefox still take over ftp handling ;) [10:38] but removing the keys doesnt help since everyone would have to [10:38] thats why i added it as wishlist to maybe make user decide what he wants as default [10:38] since i only see 2 or so people in the bug complaining (maybe one) [10:39] 3 people [10:39] out of how many millions [10:39] gnomefreak: well. i doubt that many people see that issue [10:40] its firefox-3.0b4 that is set in gconf [10:40] when i was using ftp nautlis did it for me that was gutsy [10:40] i am pretty sure that it was the user who did that [10:40] its possible i doubt mozilla did it [10:41] gnomefreak: well. let me check ;) [10:41] actually i think that there was a bug asking for that feature ;) [10:41] lol [10:41] e.g. make firefox take over ftp handling [10:41] but let me check in code [10:41] sounds like a few other flip flop bugs [10:41] like offline mode and saving docs to temp in tbird :( [10:44] gnomefreak: ok. it takes over ftp :-D [10:45] due to what? [10:45] ok let me try that again [10:45] due to who? [10:45] gnomefreak: if you allow firefox to check whether its the default application it will take over [10:45] http + https + ftp [10:46] and chrome [10:46] yeah thats why i said add update-alt for ftp it makes it alot easier [10:47] gnomefreak: well. [10:47] ill think about it [10:47] but as default browser it should open them unless you are connecting to your own ftp [10:47] will let you know in 30min :-D [10:47] do you want nss nspr in mt ppa? [10:47] hi [10:47] gnomefreak: nope. in your ;) [10:47] fta: hi sorry but asac said he did it [10:47] hi fta [10:47] asac: ok [10:48] did what? [10:48] ah the dependency problem [10:48] yeah [10:48] now firefox 3 head branch is prepared for preview xul builds [10:50] ok smoke than fix depends for nspr [10:51] i tweak build-deps but not deps, so if you updated deps, that's why it's stuck [10:51] fta: its fixed in .head now [10:51] didnt know that you tweak buld-deps [10:52] we just have to remember that if we need versioned depends on xul package, that we should append ~ to allow preview builds [10:54] asac: how did you screw up deps on fta's package in his ppa? [10:54] ah nevermind [10:54] i just read it [10:54] gnomefreak: he builds from .head branch :-D [10:54] head i thought was branded 3.1 not 3.0 [10:55] if head is devel [10:55] please dont ask me to dig that up it was in mozilla-dev-app mailing list IIRC [10:56] what issues will i run into if i use the -d flag to build nspr/nss? [10:56] there are 2 build-deps that hard higher versioning [10:56] maybe just install them since i wont affect running them [10:57] what are you talking about? [10:58] fta: hardy uses higher versions of 2 build-dep packages than gutsy does [10:59] -d flag should let you build without them but i dont think thats best idea [10:59] debhelper (>= 5.0.61) dpkg-dev (>= 1.14.9) [10:59] forgot that [10:59] fta: about ffox 3 not being installable in your ppa? [11:00] asac, this i understood. and it's fixed here too. [11:00] good [11:00] in which way? you auto patch Depends: now too? [11:02] i just resynced. but i can auto update deps too. it's just that it was tricky before (when we had >= x, << x+1) [11:02] fta: no need to. i should just remember that you append a tilde version [11:02] usually we dont have exact package versions in the build-depends [11:02] so its a special case [11:02] err/build-// [11:02] s/build-// [11:03] i started to auto-update build-deps in order for the ppa to build the packages in the right order, no other reason [11:04] fta: right, build-deps are great, but i dont think you should bother for depends as its really the exception [11:07] dch -i doesnt know what timezone im in :( [11:07] gnomefreak: most likely you are in a chroot then [11:07] oh maybe i was when i ran it [11:07] thanks ;) [11:07] np [11:08] jtv: there? [11:08] what package in dpkg-buildpackage in? [11:08] my uploads to midbrowser still dont get auto approved :( [11:08] asac: here. [11:09] asac: I'll take a look, just a moment... [11:09] jtv: i tested a partly translation upload for the grabanddrag translation in midbrowser [11:09] thats why there is just it-IT.xpi [11:09] (grabanddrag is not in firefox, so we dont get the strings from there) [11:09] jtv: you think it might work? :) [11:09] e.g. just partial .xpi? [11:09] asac: it-IT.xpi won't be auto-approved, but it.xpi will. [11:10] jtv: hehe [11:10] ok [11:10] let me reupload [11:10] jtv: so you rename it? [11:10] yes, I can. [11:10] This next release may also help us fix the problem. [11:11] asac: not sure what you meant about partial translations. [11:11] jtv: no i mean, do you usuallyy just rename the .xpi? [11:11] or do i need to change all the content to use "it" instead of it-IT (i think firefox translations use it-IT too) [11:11] Well, I don't actually need to rename it. Just set the language by hand. [11:11] Ahhh [11:11]