[00:39] norsetto, any sign of nxvl? [00:39] RoAkSoAx: nope [00:40] norsetto, wierd!! he might be in a nice bridge since he does not give any signs of being alive!! [00:41] RoAkSoAx: well, its almost 2am here, so I don't think he will phone soon, I think his flight is in few hours actually [00:42] norsetto, i see... here is almost 7pm... and i was expecting him to be present at the Americas Membership meeting since i'm applying and he was supporting me... but well.. [00:43] RoAkSoAx: I guess he didn't find any internet café with Ubuntu computers ;-) [00:43] norsetto, hahah yeah!! and neither a open wireless connection for his laptop... (here in my Perú you can find thousands since no one is aware of wireless security) [00:44] where you are nxvl... xS [00:45] oh well, time to rest these poor bones [00:46] hahah [01:04] Aha! It's not my crypttab that's broken, it's the initramfs :) [01:05] Ok, and maybe cryptsetup. [01:05] Awkward. [01:08] kees: fair enough, i'll bug you again if they haven't taken it by FF for Intrepid [01:11] kirkland: yup, sounds totally right [01:15] anyone in here want to attest at just how annoying RoAkSoAx is and think he should be an Ubuntu member, #ubuntu-meeting now :) [01:15] nixternal, nxvl would but he is still in Europe :( [01:15] lol [02:29] I'm doing a merge on a package where the source directory is not in named in the format -. dpkg-source gives a warning about this. Should I rename the source directory, or should I leave it as it is? [02:30] ignore [02:31] nhandler: I'd keep the pattern used in the Debian package if they differ. Otherwise, it's not important (except where you are the packager or maintainer). [02:34] persia_: Ok, thanks for your help [02:39] Heya gang [02:46] Hey bddebian. [02:52] Heya TheMuso [05:11] * persia_ notes that 744 packages currently appear on http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ if anyone wants to chase down build failures === santiago-php is now known as santiago-ve === beuno_ is now known as beuno [06:07] ScottK: yes? [06:08] hello siretart [06:08] hi ajmitch [07:04] good morning [07:11] dholbach: You sent a '.' to the xmms2 merge bug? [07:12] StevenK: I sent the "Steve: can you please take a look at it?" unfortunately before I subscribed you to it [07:12] But it's xmms2! [07:12] errrr [07:12] bug number? [07:13] StevenK: ^ [07:13] nm, got it [07:13] Trying to find it [07:13] bug 178477? [07:13] Launchpad bug 178477 in xmms2 "Please merge: XMMS2 0.4 DrKosmos" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178477 [07:13] where's a "." there? [07:13] Maybe that was Thunderbird being dorky [07:13] I sent that on the bluez-utils merge [07:14] Oh! [07:14] Right [07:14] Then I confused the two bugs [07:14] alright [08:00] \sh: can you have a look at bug 198618? you removed some files in a previous upload for which people are complaining [08:00] Launchpad bug 198618 in opencryptoki "Critical parts of library missing from the package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198618 [08:49] stgraber: you should use '-s' with requestsync, as you need an ACK [08:52] pochu: you rejected my merge of kdmtheme, could you give me someidea what's wrong with it? [08:53] from the point of view of some one still learning just saying 'the debdiff looks wrong' doesn't tell me much [08:53] since I'm still learning what 'right' is supposed to look like [08:55] sorry forget link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdmtheme/+bug/227912 [08:55] Launchpad bug 227912 in kdmtheme "merge kdmtheme 1.2.2-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [08:56] pochu: oh right, forgot this option ... [08:57] pochu: thanks for the ack [08:57] * highvoltage [09:00] Arby: look at the beginning of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/14346701/kdmtheme_1.2.2-1ubuntu1.debdiff, you are removing changelog entries instead of adding them [09:00] Arby: basically I think you did 'debdiff new old' instead of 'debdiff old new' [09:00] Arby: also, please attach a debian->ubuntu debdiff, that's usually easier to review [09:01] Arby: sorry for not saying what was wrong, btw [09:01] pochu: no problem, just means I have to bug you here :) [09:01] at least that's an easy thing to fix [09:01] yeah [09:02] I thought you meant the actual content was wrong. [09:02] I'll fix it later (probably at weekend) [09:02] no, I haven't actually looked into it yet [09:02] I'm at work right now [09:02] Arby: ok, when you do it attach both a ubuntu->ubuntu and a debian->ubuntu debdiffs :) [09:03] pochu: ok, thanks for the feedback :) [09:04] how do you keep track of changes you make to debian packages? [09:09] AzaTht: mentioning them in debian/changelog [09:22] no, I meant more how to handle changes [09:24] AzaTht: ah, we merge our changes with the Debian package at the beginning of the development cycle (and we sync if possible) [09:27] ok [09:27] a pile of patched in an directory? [09:27] patches* === tb1 is now known as tbf [09:58] hi [09:59] is there any document which describes the process of syncing the debian-repos with the ubuntu-repos? [09:59] i can't find some packages in the ubuntu-repos, but i find the package in the debian-repos.. [10:00] for example libjava-gnome-java or libjogl-java [10:00] charliecb: if the package is not in Ubuntu yet it will be synced automatically in one of the auto-sync runs (if it's not in experimental) [10:01] all packages with no ubuntu-local changes will be synced automatically until DebianImportFreeze [10:01] dholbach: but i'm waiting since the beginning of intrepid and noting is synced. [10:01] is it in non-free or contrib? [10:01] in those cases it might need an explicit sync request, but I'm not sure [10:01] <\sh> moins [10:01] best to ask in #ubuntu-devel [10:02] dholbach: one is in non-free, but one not. [10:02] libjava-gnome-java | 4.0.7-1 | intrepid/universe | amd64, i386 [10:02] libjogl-java | 1.1.1-1 | unstable/non-free | source, all [10:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess for explicit sync requests [10:03] so that one would probably need a manual sync request to get it into multiverse [10:03] siretart: how do you search? i use packages.ubuntu.com and there i can't find both packages. [10:03] hey luisbg [10:03] Mr VJ :) [10:03] hey dholbach :) [10:03] charliecb: I prefer rmadison(1) to do those searches. it supports multiple source using '-u ubuntu' or '-u qa' for debian [10:04] it was awesome to vj with you guys spinning [10:04] charliecb: it is part of the 'devscripts' package [10:04] dholbach, I want to do it again :) [10:04] luisbg: same here - it was just awesome [10:04] siretart: dholbach: ok. thank you [10:04] charliecb: anytime [10:04] dholbach, was your car toed after that? [10:05] luisbg: no, on the sunday before when we went to see the club for the first time - we parked in the wrong spot [10:05] luisbg: it was for "locals only" [10:05] dholbach, :S [10:05] 2000 ckz *RING* [10:05] ouch! [10:22] hey dholbach [10:22] :) [10:23] hiya huats :9 [10:43] does anybody can have a look at 180223 [10:43] I need some sponsoring there.... [10:44] yeah I mean bug 180223 [10:44] Launchpad bug 180223 in autopano-sift "Incorrect handling of filenames with spaces" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180223 === ogra_ is now known as ogra === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [11:32] pochu: sure [11:33] pochu: otherwise I won't ask for a sponsor :) [11:33] huats! [11:33] norsetto !!! [11:33] huats!!! [11:33] norsetto !!! [11:34] huats: I've seen many sponsorship requests lately that even failed to build, so nothing surprises me now ;) [11:34] pochu! [11:34] :) [11:40] pochu [11:40] ! [11:40] ;) [11:41] it is not my kind :) [11:41] (well I guess an error can happen but I use to test everything...) [11:42] (and if I want to become a MOTU one day, I have to take great care of my sponsorhip requests.... so let's start from the beginning) [11:44] that's a very inteligent position :) [11:44] maybe a merge for something in main wasn't the best place to start a packaging career [11:44] when is the next revu day? [11:45] oh, on a related note, what's the explicit policy regarding updates & backports for packages in main? [11:45] for backports, same as for universe [11:45] !sru [11:45] Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [11:46] slytherin: no idea, ask nixternal :) [11:52] backports are for "primarily desktop applications"? [11:53] directhex: not necessary, as long as you follow the policy and jdong is willing to put effort you can request backport for any application. :-) [11:55] i'll wait until (if?) the intrepid package gets merged before i bug him [12:13] huats: I have got some boring stuff you may want to help with? [12:14] we're advertising boring stuff now? [12:14] Hobbsee: marketing strategy [12:15] norsetto: i figured, but do you think it'll work? [12:15] Hobbsee: what you don't know is that I have a bottle of Armagnac on the other hand ... [12:15] norsetto: ahhhh. [12:16] norsetto: my Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ conquers it, like it does anything else, so i don't need to worry, but i see your point. [12:16] !long-pointy-stick [12:16] norsetto: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:16] hmmmmm [12:16] !Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ [12:16] Hobbsee: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:17] !hobbsee [12:17] I phear the stick so shhhhh [12:17] lol [12:17] !-hobbsee [12:17] hobbsee has no aliases - added by ompaul on 2007-05-10 14:42:04 [12:19] hi folks [12:21] heya sistpoty|work [12:21] hi norsetto [12:22] ah, this place is so calm and relaxing without sebner [12:23] Do you guys think that adding dh_icons is a big enough change to require a merge? Or should that change be dropped in order to do a sync? [12:24] nhandler: has this been reported to debian? [12:25] norsetto: The patch from the last Ubuntu version was submitted to Debian [12:26] norsetto: :( :( :( I'm here :P But I'm less stupid as you suggested ;) [12:26] hoi sistpoty|work [12:26] nhandler: and? Do they give a reason for not including it? [12:26] hi sebner [12:26] norsetto: sure [12:26] if I can [12:26] sebner: :-) [12:27] sorry for the delay, I was away (I need some food :)) [12:27] huats: I thoughts so ;-) We are almost finished with the ocaml transition, all that is left is few packages which needs a rebuild test [12:28] sure [12:28] I'll have a look at it [12:28] ... [12:28] do you have any pointer ? [12:28] they allow food in the dungeon? [12:28] huats: you will find them in ubuntuwire, they show up as depends failed [12:28] :) [12:28] ok [12:28] I will [12:29] I'll have a look in the afternoon [12:29] huats: sure, thanks for helping [12:29] norsetto: my pleasure :) [12:29] huats: and now I think _I_ go to eat something [12:30] norsetto: how many bugs are still open? [12:30] norsetto: nope, too many. no food for you. *cracks whip* [12:30] Hobbsee: only about 50 000 [12:30] definetly too many. fix the bugs instead of food. [12:31] * ajmitch is waiting for Hobbsee to fix the rest [12:31] surely you'll be leading by example [12:32] ajmitch: no, i lead by cracking the whip and such. [12:33] ajmitch: anyway, quiet you, else i'll go back to handing you 10x diffs at a time for you to upload. [12:33] but you can upload them yourself! [12:33] * ajmitch has this wonderful mail folder called /dev/null [12:33] i know, but it's more fun to make you do them. [12:34] good luck there [12:34] * norsetto <- food [12:36] <\sh> phew [12:37] <\sh> hard day [12:39] s/hard/hot/ for me *sweat* [12:41] * Hobbsee dumps the two of you in the ocean. [12:41] thanks, Hobbsee [12:42] sistpoty|work: you're welcome. cooler now? [12:42] indeed :) [12:44] So norsetto, do you have an answer about whether or not adding dh_icons is significant enough to need a merge? Or should it be dropped for a sync? [12:45] last i knew, it should be merged still [12:47] Hobbsee: Ok, thanks. I'll upload the debdiff. Worst case scenario is that it isn't used, and the package is synced instead [12:48] nhandler: it's a change which makes the gnome cache more efficient, so i don't think it's something that we want to get rid of [12:48] nhandler: although a dh_iconcache --> dh_icons change is fine, fyi [12:49] Hobsee: The actual change was adding dh_iconcache. I was told that it was obsolete (on a previous merge), so I replaced iot with dh_icons. [12:50] (it doesn't only make it more efficient, but in some cases there are icons which aren't even shown if dh_icons isn't used) [12:54] Hobsee: RainCT: Thanks for your help. I submitted a debdiff for the package [12:54] RainCT: ah, i stand corrected. [12:55] btw, needs-packaging bugs (which are being reviewed on REVU) shouldn't have u-u-s subscribed, or? [12:55] (there are some in the sponsors queue) [12:55] don't ask me, i'm not the head anymore :) [12:55] check what the doc says [14:31] woo, won my gpl violation complaint [14:34] who was breaking it? [14:34] taiwanese tv card manufacturer Compro [14:35] rofl [14:42] can anyone explain why ff3 was removed this morning? or point to a ticket giving a good reason. if i remember the release notes for 8.04 firefox3 was part of the plan... . [14:42] * erUSUL joins pdlnhr1 in the question [14:43] and i add why the same happened to me with openoffice.org packages (among other things that went as dependencies) [14:44] pdlnhr1: Removed? [14:44] http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/ [14:45] yeah... firefox3 was removed this morning on update [14:45] some translation pack packages are being held on my amd64 at the moment - if I'd dist-upgrade now, it's remove a bunch translation packages - is that the problem you're talking about? [14:46] I didn't think update-manager would let you remove things.. [14:46] no, it shouldn't [14:46] Oh, you're apt-get dist-upgrading? [14:46] soren: it came through as a partial-upgrade [14:47] nope... i clicked the little update icon in the corner [14:47] i am not the only one erUSUL had the same experience [14:48] dholbach: yeah a bunch of packages included firefox 3 and openoffice.org packages (with language packs and another related packages) [14:49] i thought ff3 was a feature of 8.04 which if i recall is LTS which is why we waited to upgrade till now, and it took a while to get all the plugins working correctly again in ff and to have it just remove REALLY sucked... just seems bad form to me [14:49] soren: if you accet the so called "partial upgrade" it will do [14:49] accept* [14:49] what does dpkg -l firefox say? [14:50] dholbach: can i paste here¿? [14:50] just the last line [14:50] http://pastebin.com/m535f62d4 [14:51] weird - it was really removed - very weird [14:52] i just d/l'd it to ~home/firefox and created a symlink but till this is resolved... i can not let any of my devolpers upgrade their machines [14:53] what happens if you run sudo apt-get install firefox3 ? don't press enter - just see what the upgrader wants to do [14:53] E: Couldn't find package firefox3 [14:53] hu?! [14:53] can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? [14:53] yup [14:54] pdlnhr1, erUSUL: are you running -proposed? [14:55] dholbach: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 just wroked !@#!@# [14:55] pochu: yep [14:55] http://pastebin.com/d244764b4 [14:55] erUSUL: which packages did it want to remove or change? [14:55] right, that's because xulrunner 3.0rc1 / firefox3.0 rc1 and many other packages have been updated there, and they weren't/aren't built yet [14:55] dholbach: know i only have to reinstall the language packas openoffice.org and what not :| [14:56] i am not anymore... because i don't want it to happen again.. but up to an hour ago i was running proposed [14:56] either don't update until it doesn't want to remove anything, or don't use -proposed :) [14:56] dholbach: hard to say or remember and i do not run "script" ... [14:56] erUSUL: use "gksu gnome-language-selector" it should do it all for you [14:56] dholbach: i know... ;) [14:56] (or use update-manager) [14:57] the problem with the language stuff in -proposed should be shaken out in some hours [14:57] I'd suggest what pochu said [14:57] pochu: update-manager does remove the packages and the proposed packages that depend on other packages has to be uploaded at once if not people can not test the packages [14:58] erUSUL: oh, it removes packages? that's weird [14:58] pochu: it offers what it calls a "Partial Upgrade" and if you accept it removes the packages [14:59] ah, indeed [14:59] pochu: it is true that doing dist-upgrade just makes things worse :| [14:59] well... i guess it is a known issue now... not much i can do about it... ill have to wait till they re add it to the repos [14:59] but i won't be doing any updates on any of our developers machines for a while [14:59] luckily end users aren't supposed to use -proposed, and you guys know how to fix things :) [15:00] and this won't (shouldn't) happen in -updates [15:00] pochu: yeah.. but it alows us to test out software and file bug reports [15:00] i guess it is a catch 22 [15:00] pdlnhr1: right, I guess update-manager could be more verbose when it's going to remove packages... [15:01] pochu: well... not much else to be said on the subject... thanks for letting me vent... i will keep an eye out for it to be re added [15:03] pochu: it does says that it will remove packages but how do i know if that's a required step on the "Partial Upgrade" thing or is just a defect on update manager?? [15:04] erUSUL: good point. I guess it could tell what packages it's going to remove. does that make sense? [15:05] erUSUL: so in this case you would have seen it was going to remove firefox and you would have canceled the update [15:05] pochu: it tells you... but only after it had started the partial upgrade [15:06] personally.. i thought it was going to replace it with RC1 [15:06] pochu: the fact is that i saw that it would remove this things but i though (and i guess i was not the only one) that the removing of this packages was a needed step on the "Partial Upgrade" [15:08] pochu: the gui of the partial upgrade is like the one you face on a dist-upgrade and in a dist-upgrade packages get removed . i just though that this was a similar case (packages will be removed and others newly installed) === Zic_ is now known as Zic [15:12] erUSUL, pdlnhr1: ok, thanks for your feedback. I've told about this issue to the maintainer of update-manager and he can reproduce it, so hopefully he will be able to fix/improve it. I've also forwarded your commends to him [15:13] pochu: thanks.... have a great day all.... [15:16] pochu: thanks; much apreciated [15:18] trying to build a java package, I run into "You must specify a valid JAVA_HOME or JAVACMD!" while I use debuild -S -sa [15:18] does anybody has faced that before ? [15:21] huats: you probably use java in the clean target, and the java executable want's the JAVA_HOME env variable set [15:23] anybody using hardy + vinagre? [15:24] how do i request a backport, if a small dependency change is needed in debian/controls ... do a normal backport request and attach the debdiff? and what should the version numbering then be? [15:25] a|wen: it is using java in the clean target [15:25] a|wen: what's that change? maybe a backport of another package avoids needing to change it [15:25] so I need to have JAVA_HOME set in my env ? [15:27] pochu: it's libqt4-dev ... ahh, but I see that a correct version is already in backports, then it should be okay, or? [15:28] I think so [15:28] but I'm not a backporter :) [15:28] huats: i should think so; are you running debuild using sudo, then that might be why you don't have it [15:28] pochu: he :) ... do you know if the PPA's include backport packages, so I can test if it builds? [15:29] a|wen: they don't. [15:30] * a|wen considers making himself a backport pbuilder to hardy [15:31] a|wen: no [15:31] a|wen: using my regular user [15:32] huats: then you might have luck setting a JAVA_HOME env variable [15:34] pochu: I have corrected the gnome-subtitles debdiff to include the maintener field [15:34] ... [15:34] a|wen: I'll do it [15:39] So I merged the LTP package for Hardy, which has been orphaned by Debian. A couple of Debian guys responded to a post of mine, asking if I would be willing/interested in taking over maintenance of the Debian. What's involved with Debianizing an Ubuntu package? [15:40] kirkland: not a lot if it is already in Debian [15:40] james_w: yup, already in Debian [15:40] james_w: just several years out of sync with mainline [15:40] it's just a matter of watching over bug reports, packaging the new upstream releases and finding a sponsor for them. [15:40] james_w: the Ubuntu one is several years more modern [15:41] ah, in that case testing the Ubuntu packages on Debian and getting a sponsor to push them back is probably a good start. [15:41] james_w: my question is more about what I need to do to the Ubuntu package to prepare it for upload to the Debian repo [15:42] whatever it takes to make it work there :-) [15:42] some people would want to see a non-Ubuntu version number to sponsor it. [15:42] others would want no reference to Ubuntu in the changelogs, but that's a bit silly. [15:43] the other thing would be updating Maintainer: in debian/control to be you. [15:43] james_w: okay, those 2 things are easy [15:45] the only other thing would be Debian policy things, but your changelog doesn't hint about anything bad in that area. [15:45] james_w: right, okay [16:03] dholbach: ping [16:04] pong [16:04] bobbo: pong - about to leave in a bit though [16:04] dholbach: it'll be quick :) [16:04] dholbach: in Bug #195196, when i upload the fixed version should i upload a debdiff against the old Ubuntu version or the new diff.gz? [16:04] Launchpad bug 195196 in graphmonkey "graphmonkey: Upgrade to new upstream release (1.7)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/195196 [16:05] bobbo: the .diff.gz should be enough [16:05] dholbach: ok thanks :) [16:05] rock on [16:10] dholbach: ping [16:11] herzi: pong [16:11] dholbach: any chance to call you on the phone for ~20mins? [16:15] Bug #205815 [16:15] Launchpad bug 205815 in monodevelop "Monodevelop in hardy doesn't install gmcs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205815 [16:20] If someone could fix that [16:20] or tell me how to >_> [16:24] lukehasnoname: mono-gmcs is reccomended [16:24] I see that. Do recommended packages get isntalled by default? [16:24] Laney: I have no attachments to the pdns merge, you're welcome to it [16:24] Because the compiler is rather necessary [16:25] lukehasnoname: ok, I will fix the bug [16:27] devfil: I appreciate it. Also, I just discovered how you right click in Synaptic to see recommended/suggested packages [16:28] lukehasnoname: I can use debconf to ask if user want to install gmcs or not, I think this is the best think to do [16:29] Eh, I suppose that does maximize user control. I personally can't see why someone would want the IDE without the *only* compiler for the language. [16:29] C# in this case [16:30] lukehasnoname: you're right === tuxmania1 is now known as tuxmaniac [16:34] Don't quit on me, roak [16:34] ? [16:36] RoAkSoAx quit ("Leaving") [16:37] lukehasnoname, closed by mistake my xchat app :P [16:38] ah [16:39] lukehasnoname: has to show off his new cloak [16:39] ;-) [16:39] jpds, hahaha lol :P didn't recognize you with that nickname :P [16:40] RoAkSoAx: heh. [16:40] xD [16:40] xchat, hmmm [16:41] I use pidgin on my linux machine, and mibbit.com on my work machine [16:44] can someone refresh the REVU uploaders keyring ? [16:45] kirkland: one moment please [16:46] kirkland: Done. [16:46] jpds: gracias! [16:47] kirkland: De nada. [16:49] heya === effie is now known as effie_jayx [16:56] lukehasnoname: I added a debdiff to the bug [16:59] Heya gang [16:59] Hello bddebian. [16:59] hi bddebian [17:00] Hi Iulian, sistpoty|work [17:11] who owns http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/index.py ? [17:11] very minor feature request for http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/lostpw.py [17:11] gpg -d < ..... [17:12] could use an EOT at the end of that page [17:12] kirkland: best ask RainCT about changes [17:12] such that the copy and paste works completely [17:12] RainCT: ^^^ [17:12] otherwise, it's a kickass lost-password process ;-) [17:13] kirkland: Yep, I wish other sites did exactly the same [17:13] * RainCT reads the log [17:13] however they don't ask for keys. [17:14] jpds: true. for the gpg-savvy among us, there are directories like pgp.mit.edu [17:14] I am making a new package for intrepid, which depends on libqt4-dev version 4.4. However, the intrepid package is only 4.3.4. Not sure where to go from here, any pointers? [17:14] kirkland: true.. thanks for the notice :) [17:14] RainCT: you bet, nice job. [17:15] mathiaz: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ubuntu-virt [17:15] soren: also, you might have a look at my REVU for the ubuntu-virt-* metapackages: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=ubuntu-virt === cprov is now known as cprov-out [17:22] kirkland: done [17:22] sistpoty|work, siretart: shout if you don't like the change :P [17:22] RainCT: cool, thanks [17:24] (^ those are the real REVU devs, btw; I joined the team recently) [17:24] ScottK: hello [17:25] * sistpoty|work hides [17:25] thanks RainCT :) [17:25] Does anyone know of anywhere I could get some information about when/if it will be upgraded? [17:26] heh, sure thing :) [17:26] DRebellion: Try asking in #kubuntu-devel [17:26] Amaranth, ok, will do. [17:27] RainCT: sounds good, go ahead! [17:28] siretart: (I think he has done it) ;) [17:30] great [17:41] Hi, is there someone willing to help me to build ekiga SVN on lpia arch? -> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1977524&group_id=204472&atid=989748 packs here: https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive [17:41]