[00:14] Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu (howapt) [01:20] The floodbots appear to be flooding #ubuntu. [01:20] Eh, it's over now. They randomly spewed 7 lines with no apparent purpose though. Wierd. [01:54] greenmanwitch called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic () [02:04] whos the ubuntu-offtopic ops? [03:05] In #ubuntuforums, Moniker42 said: !porc is :porc::inca::dito::love: [03:10] +1 on that request === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [03:37] lol, "the" moderator for #ubuntu...I'd rather be boiled in pudding :) [03:37] hmm? [03:38] elky_work: "didnt realize tonyyarusso was the moderator...." [03:38] haha [03:38] * elky_work annoints tonyyarusso 'the' op. [03:38] so where's this tonyyarusso pudding? [03:38] hmm, I suppose I could make some - I do have like six boxes [03:39] yum [03:39] dcc the finished product kthx [03:39] kk [04:47] In #ubuntu-offtopic, xtfusion said: !food is Hungry [04:51] know what would be fun? "anonymous" access for editors :) [04:51] tonyyarusso: ubotupedia? [04:53] "What was old, is new again." [04:53] tonyyarusso, depends on your definition of 'fun' [04:55] tonyyarusso: we could make you ubereditor, so you could keep out all the wonderful useless cruft [04:55] of course, we'd never see you gain [04:55] see you again [04:58] jdong, elky_work, nalioth: I believe I've been misunderstood. [04:58] I mean permissions for the "Anonymous" supybot plugin. [04:58] for those with 'editor' capability [04:58] i still dont understand [04:58] elky_work: lets you make ubotu speak [04:59] oh. hell no. [04:59] but then we could mess with people's minds! :P [04:59] * tonyyarusso isn't really serious, but it would be greatly amusing at times [04:59] which times? the ones where we make people snap into a rage of conspiracy? [05:00] i'm not sure i can take another 3mth saga [05:00] lol [05:00] that's really gonna question everyone's sanity [05:00] * tonyyarusso sigh [05:01] y'all don't remember what fun or joking is anymore, but the sadder thing is I know why [05:01] jerks. [05:01] (the reasons, not you) [05:02] tonyyarusso: these days it's really hard to tell what's a joke and what's serious [05:02] what can we say... being villanised for doing our jobs is totally hilarious. i laugh myself to sleep about it each night. [05:02] I know. [05:03] Hello all [05:03] Can someone check why the floodbot banned me? [05:03] or well muted me [05:03] I didnt paste or anything..... [05:03] Maybe it's not a bug --- it's a feature! :-) Just thought youd like the heads up [05:04] Cpudan80, you'll need to give us a time and date, since our bantracker is currently in a coma [05:04] elky_work: just now [05:04] like within a minute or two ago [05:04] Cpudan80: well, it seems like it was removed, although I'm still not sure why [05:05] Yeah - I dont think I was ever banned ? [05:05] I dont see a +q line... [05:05] Cpudan80: nor do I, plus you were talking right before the "removal" [05:05] yeah... [05:05] LjL: minor floodbot bug? ^^ [05:05] I've had some impersonators on a nick -- Cpudan8O in the past [05:06] tonyyarusso, i saw it picking people up on two lines yesterday, which is a bit extreme since lag can cause a mini-flood [05:06] But I think that has subsided [05:06] Cpudan80: thanks for the report - he'll check it out eventually [05:06] No problem [05:06] elky_work: that could be it - maybe the limits were lowered for release day or something [05:06] Lag: 0.2seconds [05:06] tonyyarusso, possibly [05:10] Anyone - just thought you'd like to know [05:10] night all [05:38] I thought I taw a puttycat [05:38] I thought I saw tobmalf in -ot backlog but I guess I didn't [05:39] i thought i saw him back in #ubuntu the other day [05:40] Myrtti, did he not used to be called 'tobmaif'? [05:41] hey gnomefreak [05:41] I did! I did taw a puttycat! [05:41] * Madpilot wonders if he should purr [05:41] thanks tonyyarusso [05:41] * Madpilot also wonders what release day insanity he missed... [05:42] Madpilot, you dont wonder. really you dont. [05:42] hi Madpilot [05:43] was planning on helping out, but family obligations kept me in the real world Friday and Saturday. [05:44] Madpilot: there's still plenty of support help to give in #ubuntu though [05:44] you're welcome to toss in your .02 [05:44] ;-) [06:10] btw, how usual is it that during the install the installator doesn't make a directory for dbus and the installation aborts there? [06:10] has anybody been complaining? [06:12] Myrtti: i've got lots of complaints after an upgrade to hardy [06:13] yeah, I thought there might be some complaints [06:14] I noticed that doing an install with server 64 and installing *-desktop aborts to unresolved dependencies since dbus fails to install [06:14] i've got lots of _personal_ complaints [06:14] sudo mkdir /whatever/dbus and the journey continues with dpkg --release -a [06:15] and aptitude install *-desktop [06:21] upgrading to hardly borked my xorg. again. [06:26] Madpilot: nvidia? [06:27] ATI. 9600XT [06:27] I just renamed xorg.conf and it was fine. Should have remembered to do that before I restarted the first time. [06:28] nalioth: what sort? was considering one myself. [06:28] i kept seeing it with nvidia but installing and running nvidia-config after starting with clean X11/xorg.conf fixed it for me [06:28] tonyyarusso: one what? [06:29] tonyyarusso: kernels not being updated Xorg breakage a whole bunch of others [06:29] most i got hit with but if you use dist-upgrade instead of update-manager the upgrade is pretty much problem free [06:30] night all its past bed time by a few hours [06:30] so much for dist-upgrade being depreceated... [06:30] gnomefreak: my dist-upgrade didn't work well [06:30] i have no sudo at all [06:30] oh thats bad [06:30] :( [06:31] yes, very. i had to chroot myself a root account [06:31] im gonna ping mvo in morning and let me know what ive seen since there are too many to file bugs on atleast at this time of morning [06:31] nalioth: upgrade. [06:31] tonyyarusso: upgrade to what? [06:31] 8.04 of course [06:32] what you're talking about. [06:33] Anyone else getting gstreamer video playback issues? [06:33] tonyyarusso: i'm post upgrade with these problems [06:33] totem is playing everything back at half speed... [06:33] tonyyarusso: did you not see us initiate this convo about hardy? [06:41] nalioth: Oh, nvm. Saw, didn't comprehend. You mean just your own issues. [06:53] tonyyarusso: major major issues [07:42] In ubotu, stdin said: no khardy is Kubuntu Hardy Heron ships with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks; KDE 3 is offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD is commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 is community supported [07:42] ^ updates, like s/will be/is/ etc [08:29] * Hobbsee O.O [08:29] emma's gone to development channels too now? [08:30] i thought banning her from all of userland should be enough for her to get the point. [08:34] trolls ain't known for brains [08:37] oh well, if she turns up again, ban on sight. [08:37] looks like she ended up in the wrong place beore [08:38] what's the username? [08:38] emma [08:38] but already banned from most of the userspace channels? [08:39] Not to be hating her or anything, but she's lost any right to participate in #*ubuntu* channels by her behaviour, which really hasn't changed, so banning on sight seems in keeping with that [08:39] yes [08:42] she's in -bugs, too [08:43] * Hobbsee nukes === stdin_ is now known as stdin [09:21] Hobbsee, she cant honestly expect to get any support from those channels since most people there thing -offtopic is too undisciplined... [09:21] s/thing/think/ [09:21] elkbuntu: oh, i doubt she will. [09:21] elkbuntu: i really doubt she's actually trying to get support from there, either [09:22] Hobbsee, if she's trying to get support there then tough [09:22] as in, technical support [09:22] elkbuntu: perhasp i should have used a forward or something. [09:22] to? [09:22] oh, i don't know. [09:22] somewhere interesting. [09:23] * stdin wonders what Hobbsee would define as "interesting" in this case [09:24] stdin, #gentoo of course, they'd eat her alive there. [09:24] stdin: i'm sure i couldn't post the names of such channels into a logged one. [09:24] now, i *wasn't* quite thinking of that, but you're getting the gist. [09:24] Hobbsee, indeed, my mistake :) [09:35] elkbuntu: any plans to remove her ban from here (re: the usual policy), or is there still no confidence that she'll bring anything new and credible into this channel? [09:36] is there a way of allowing her to the channel but muting her automatically [09:36] so those who are intrested in her rambling can do so and others can just zone out [09:37] or of course, use ignore [09:37] Myrtti: +z, with those who are actually interested going +o? [09:37] *shrug* [09:37] then again, if people arent going to listen to her anyway, then there's little point her putting her opinions in here [09:38] and I for one don't want to ignore her [09:39] hmmm [09:39] other option is another channel where she gets forwarded to, where those who do want ot participate in discussions with her can join [09:39] Hobbsee, her own channel [09:40] either way, it's suboptimal leaving her banned with no way of recourse, ever. [09:40] elkbuntu: #sparkle-ponies or so? Yeah, that's not a bad idea. [09:42] /CSKICKBAN DumpsterBaby we want you to leave, that's the thing that matters [09:43] Bodsda called the ops in #ubuntu () [09:43] kick him [09:43] I'm not synchronized [09:44] DumpsterBaby [n=chatzill@001310a8a3e6.click-network.com] [09:44] might want to set up a ban too [09:44] he came back and flooded again immediately, kb'd now [09:44] thanks [09:45] floodbot just unbanned him wtf [09:45] oh, the nick ban, is all ok [09:45] klined [10:32] !compiz-#kubuntu [10:32] Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion [10:32] we need to update that. any suggestions? [10:36] jussio1: what is the reason kubuntu shipped without kompiz ? [10:36] ikonia: that was gutsy. it now ships with it. [10:37] oh [10:38] I thought it was installed and I'd not read anything to suggest other wise, hence my curiosity [10:38] thought I'd missed something interesting [10:38] ikonia: I can change it, but Im too tired/busy to think what ti should be... [10:39] surly something like "as of hardy kubuntu now includes compiz-fusion as part of the default install. Gutsy users will still have to install this manually [10:44] please i have warning when login tell me xrdb command not found [10:45] ikonia> Bodsda: why are you suggesting someone goes into #ubuntu-ops for support ? [10:45] bashca: I said in ubuntu this channel was not for support [10:45] bodsa was leading you down the wrong path [10:45] bashca: I suggest you rejoin #ubuntu and wait longer than 30 seconds for an answer [10:45] ikonia, ok [10:46] * jussio1 raises an eyebrow [11:12] heads up 10:42 < Novek> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <-- Free downloads , Fun . Tutorials etc.......... plz register [11:12] lurking in #ubuntu [11:22] jussi01 called the ops in #ubuntuforums () [11:24] argh, sorry, shift is too close to enter, slinblade tater or something like that. [11:24] sigh.. [11:38] < ~slingblade_tater> [13:02] FFS [13:05] Myrtti: what's up? [13:06] Fujisan came to -ot, first thing he did was !vista [13:06] no, that came after hilighting my nick [13:07] hmm [13:07] why is it tollerated [13:07] he's made his intentions cleaer ? [13:07] clear even [13:08] Myrtti, he pinged me in #defocus just before [13:08] ikonia, because he hasnt done anything bad enough, apparantly. unfortunately serial annoyers are quite welcome :( [13:09] there are a select few who have the blatent intention of being an issue on a persistant basis [13:09] ikonia, and they get to succeed :( [13:10] there appear to have recently [13:10] it's not common, it just seems say the last 2 months [13:10] yep. there's been alot of leniency the past few months imho [13:12] ikonia, hold on a sec [13:12] ok [13:13] So what's he done? [13:14] PriceChild, pinged Myrtti and i in the past few minutes for the sake of pinging us. [13:14] he trolls the #ubuntu channel trying to get people to press ctrl+alt+del [13:14] and that should be punished how? [13:14] he claims he's never been in ubuntu, trolls it, get banned then moves to off-topic [13:14] laughing about it [13:14] then threatens slashdot against users for banning him [13:15] Friday he was pain in the hiney complaining about the !vista factoid which is now revised (it should've been even without him complaining) [13:15] and spamming ANDlinux [13:16] add to all that his general release day behaviour [13:18] somewhere on freenode might want these obnoxious people, but im pretty sure the people of #*buntu* do not given the consensus and whinging he gets in #ubuntu [13:18] Is he banned from #ubuntu? [13:20] last i checked yes. whether he still is, not a clue [13:21] I thought it got lifted shortly after [13:21] he has been banned 3 times and it has been lifted 2 times that I'm aware of [13:21] probably. with the bantracker down, it's hard to follow this stuff. [13:21] damn sqlite :( [13:23] Myrtti: as a side issue I've almost finished going through the factoid DB [13:23] excellent [13:23] ok NOW he creeps me [13:25] now i'm laughing [13:25] a better response [13:27] elkg [13:27] elkbuntu: gotta love this guy. [13:27] elkbuntu: so much for catalysing, or something. [13:27] some people can't be catalysed. [13:28] ikonia, pm me your email please [13:31] has emma been banned from #ubuntu-bugs? [13:31] yes. [13:31] last i checked, that was included in the ubuntu namespace. [13:32] PriceChild: would you mind consulting people *before* you remove their bans? [13:32] Hobbsee: which ban where? [13:33] PriceChild: oh, my bad. channel wasn't synced :) [13:33] PriceChild: sorry [13:33] * Hobbsee saw a blank banlist, and went "hey, now, that's not right" [13:33] :) [13:33] what did she do in -bugs? [13:34] does it matter? [13:34] sure [13:34] again, #*ubuntu* wide channel bans are just that. last i checked, #ubuntu-bugs fit that category [13:34] * Hobbsee found her in -devel, so thought to do a /whois. [13:41] but she didn't do anything wrong in either channel? [13:43] PriceChild, she has shown no hope of being catalysed. we cannot afford her any more time. [13:44] * Hobbsee thinks PriceChild fails to understand the concept of a #*ubuntu* wide channel ban, which the irc council agreed to. It actually means all channels that fall into #*ubuntu*, not just the ones she's trolled in before. [13:44] (excluding ##) [13:45] understood [13:46] So, why the questions? [13:46] I'm interested as to what has been going on. I haven't accused you of doing the wrong thing, I would just like to catch up atm. [13:47] huh? you've been around the whole time... [13:49] well I hadn't heard of any of the bugs or devel issues she's found herself in until now... so i was asking about them? [13:49] * Hobbsee points, again, to the idea about a namespace-wide channel ban. [13:50] i didn't expect her to go into devland, so didn't ban her from them when the original bans came in. [13:50] the issue was she was in those channels and is untrustworthy to remain on topic in any ubuntu channel, hence she was preemptively removed to avoid any disruptions to those channels. [13:50] but you didn't instate bans in those two channels at that time right? [13:50] * spb looks, again, and laughs, again [13:50] * PriceChild larts spb [13:50] now that's not very nice [13:50] What is wrong with me asking what has happenned? :( [13:51] asking requires that people explain things [13:51] can't have that now [13:51] tb in #ubuntu please, - take a look [13:51] this is getting a persistant theme [13:52] argh... does anyone remember the sudo bug that was around a few days back? it was suggested to be added to the factoid, but I cant find it. someone mind grepping logs for me? [13:52] what sudo bug? [13:52] jussio1: can't use the getbyhostname() function ? [13:52] ikonia: yeah that one [13:53] ANybody else just been colourfully and randomly PMed by some guy from #ubuntu? [13:53] jussio1: what info you want [13:53] wgrant: asking about a scanner? [13:53] ikonia: just the bug number is fine [13:53] wgrant: ghabit ? [13:54] jussio1: rats, not got the bug number, [13:54] jussio1: thats the one bit I do'nt have [13:54] and I'm not subscribed to it [13:54] ikonia: No, it was unintelligible, at least not any language that looks vaguely real. [13:54] ah [13:54] wgrant, by what nick? [13:54] ikonia: ok, thanks anyway. [13:54] elkbuntu: Perikizi^33 [13:55] jussio1: sorry [13:55] right. [13:56] wgrant: that sounds like those turkish ones weve been getting [13:56] * Hobbsee waits for the flames [13:56] * Mez strikes a match [13:57] I'm being trolled bad by td` attempting to post information about me in #ubuntu [13:59] * elkbuntu is watching [14:01] tb` has moved to #ubuntu-offtopic to troll me [14:02] * Hobbsee is also watching [14:03] this is a blatant attempt to provoke/troll [14:03] thank you, I'm not bothered about him posting my name, but saying I gave advice/said things about things I didn't is not fair on people [14:04] of course not, and he's stalking... which we seem to have a spate of the past few months [14:04] almost like a training camp [14:05] yeah, something is catalysing these trolls from somewhere [14:06] thats the 3rd person I've had with that sort of behaviour [14:06] elkbuntu: it's not the suspected place, unless they're going and changing nicks. [14:06] Hobbsee, well, depends what you think the suspected place is [14:08] @btlogin [14:08] is bantracker back? [14:08] doesn't look like it [14:08] darn [14:08] :( [14:09] * Hobbsee could use it, right about now [14:09] yeah [14:09] im totally lost tonight [14:10] [23:09] [Whois] Mad_Gouki is n=alex@adsl-074-183-138-133.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net (purple) [14:10] what was `tb's ident? [14:10] not that [14:11] [23:10] [Whois] TB` is n=nnscript@host86-165-186-113.range86-165.btcentralplus.com (TB) [14:11] hmmm. definetly not that. [14:11] see the n=... that explains everything [14:12] ???? what the devil is going on [14:12] it's the same guy [14:12] is it, ones a UK isp, the other is a USAS isp [14:12] ahhh nnscript [14:13] * Hobbsee doesn't recognise nnscript [14:13] ikonia, i have access to two US servers.. [14:13] oh, right [14:13] Hobbsee, it's a reasonable mirc script [14:13] ahhhh [14:13] where reasonable means less obnoxious than excursion [14:13] * Hobbsee will remain silent on the number of machines she has access to. [14:14] don't have root over most of 'em, though. pity [14:14] heh [14:15] i could get access to at least one other US, a Canadian and probably a NZ if i needed to [14:15] by access i mean permission legally granted [14:15] does seem like the same guy [14:16] seems random to come in and ask about the other guy minutes after he's gone [14:16] yeah [14:17] it wouldn't be if they actually had a non-ubuntu channel in common... the second guy just has #u and #u-offtopic [14:18] ah well, it's done and dustred and the alter ego isn't causing any issue [14:18] dusted even [14:18] most wont until the ops go to sleep [14:19] of course [14:19] * elkbuntu hums a tune [14:19] * jussio1 wonders if the second is set +i [14:20] jussio1: thats an interesting possability as it looks like it's a scripted session [14:21] gone now [14:22] elkbuntu: check -offtopic before you go [14:22] just saw [14:22] interesting, online but left the channel [14:23] yes because he didnt get the reaction he wanted, which is probably tb unbanned, probably clueless to the fact tb isnt banned [14:25] anyway, bed for real [14:25] heh, nig [14:25] t [14:25] good night [14:26] ikonia, you take care, and go wash that stalker attractant off yourself ;) [14:26] thank you [14:27] [14:28] Hobbsee: ..? [14:28] flipstar: if you knew about that channel, you know it's not welcome in here. [14:29] or in there. [14:29] actually i don't i just found it in the channel list [14:30] you know the topic of it ? [14:30] ikonia: it got changed recently. [14:30] flipstar: how convenient. [14:31] * PriceChild sighs [14:32] * Hobbsee unbans, and will ban for longer next time when teh trolls come out and do that again. [14:33] * Hobbsee sighs at PriceChild [14:33] :) [14:33] * jussio1 sighs at the trolls [14:34] jussio1: would be nice if freenode did something. gotta love it [14:37] Hobbsee: About who? [14:37] PriceChild: any of the trolls would be nice. [14:37] Hobbsee: dont you dare mention that name... [14:38] PriceChild: what are piero's alternate nicks, for eg. [14:38] and is one of them fujisan, or is it another known troll? [14:38] I don't think you've asked freenode to do that..? And I don't think they would unless it was a network problem, in which case they'd deal with it themselves? [14:39] ("think" "think") [14:39] PriceChild: so, i'm asking now, and fujisan has trolled in multiple channels, not all in the ubuntu namespace, so it should class as a network problem by now. [14:39] at least, for the old meanings of network problem. [14:40] multiple channels? [14:40] which ones? [14:40] * Hobbsee thought the list got mentioend days ago [14:41] I haven't seen one. [14:41] I could name 2 off the top of my head... #u, and #u-ot [14:43] PriceChild: some of them were private, and now hidden. I can't give the names of them out. [14:44] (and are not to do with ubuntu) [14:47] Hobbsee: didn't he stop that though? [14:47] PriceChild: he did to me. he hasn't to elkbuntu, Myrtti, and making generally sexist comments in channel. [14:50] I don't think what he did in -offtopic is a freenode problem? :/ I can pass it on though if you still want me to? [14:51] no, freenode wans't hte main one [14:51] er, -offtopic wasn't hte main one [14:52] .. [14:55] since i had a natter with him a day or so ago, where? [15:23] Hobbsee: ^ [15:52] Nafallo called the ops in #ubuntu-irc () [16:11] open week is starting [16:11] I won't be able to help run it all day [16:15] well, not 15 mins in to open week and already +m :p [16:18] Can someone put ubotu in -chat? [16:20] @capabilites admin [16:20] @capabilities admin [16:20] (capabilities []) -- Returns the capabilities of the user specified by ; if isn't specified, returns the hostmasks of the user calling the command. [16:20] @capability list admin [16:20] (capability list []) -- Returns the capabilities present on the . is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. [16:20] @capability admin [16:20] @capability [16:20] does it need to be +m? :/ [16:27] there were a lot of /ignore messages flooding at the time [16:48] funky [17:55] bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu (Ward1983) [18:35] Can someone take over in classroom? [18:35] My connection is super flaky === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [18:41] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (CARLSBUTTCAVERNS offensive nick) [18:45] Someone please take over in classroom === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [19:02] what needs to be done? === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak [19:07] Amaranth_, I got it unless someone else wants it [19:08]