=== rhpot1992 is now known as rhpot1991 [00:27] Tuv0k: ubuntu ffmpeg doesn't have aac, you need the one from medibuntu [00:38] envy on mythbuntu is real nice [00:38] envy... the movie? [00:40] no it gets the Nvidia drivers [00:40] oh, right [00:40] lets its full screen real clear quality [00:41] jayshotta: mythbuntu already has the restricted drivers [00:42] I kno but it doesnt set TV to full sreen either 16:9 or 4:3 enzy sets it to fill the whole screen [00:44] ah, the drivers are probably outdated then [00:44] its too bad BT isnt used on the update servers... i think [00:46] could be but I rather those drivers [00:49] Ok my mythbuntu is up wat can I do to add this extra drive to it now [00:49] dumb wuestion... can i upgrade from cd indtead of via synaptic? [00:50] c3rb3rus5: only from alternate disk. and i don't know. in theory, it's possible, but it was never tried for the mythbuntu disks [00:50] ok, we'll stay away from that approach then [00:51] too bad, i'd love to hear from someone who tried it :) [00:52] ,aybe i'll be brave... what the hell, right? [00:52] off to find the alternate install [00:52] jayshotta: Are you sure it isn't just an xorg.conf or nvidia-settings issue? [00:53] OpenMedia: hey steve ;) [00:54] Hi laga. Hows things.. Keeping busy with 8.04? [00:54] OpenMedia: yeah.. release will take another few hours, unfortunately [00:55] I'll be at UbuntuLive and OSCON again this year. [00:55] Got a speaker slot at OSCON. [00:55] nice [00:55] 8.04b is running well off a 4G USB stick as root. [00:55] nice [00:55] Any of the Dev's going to be a UB Live? [00:55] oops, repating myself there [00:56] not me, but maybe some others [00:56] superm1: is probably too busy with his new job.. [00:56] I might be there, but just as an attendie [00:56] my loco team is strongly urging me to go [00:57] tgm4883_laptop: I'm put in a proposal for a Mythtv + Video BOF as part OSCON. [00:57] sorry s/I'm/I've/ [00:57] sweet [00:58] * tgm4883_laptop forsees an epic dual between UMC and Mythbuntu [00:58] they will make movies out of it [00:58] laga: Any last minute niggles with the 8.04 build. [00:58] tgm4883_laptop: Oh I agree. [00:58] yeah, like the matrix. only that neo starts spitting python backtraces halfway through the movie [00:58] oh, that was mean [00:59] OpenMedia: nothing critical i hope :) [00:59] bah, i got to stop checking our mirrors every 5 minutes [01:00] forgive my ignorance... but what is UMC? [01:00] Ubuntu Media Center [01:00] never heard of it... interesting [01:01] c3rb3rus5, hasn't been released yet [01:01] not sure when it plans on it [01:01] but from what I've read, Ibex +1 maybe? [01:01] +1 or +2 [01:01] * tgm4883_laptop could be waaaay offf [01:03] is it supposed to rival myth and have most of the same functionality? [01:03] um [01:03] Using elisa etc [01:03] same functionality, yes [01:03] rival myth? [01:03] I was talking to Malcolm about it at UBLive last year [01:03] well... alternative to [01:04] they did look at using mythtv (or mythbuntu) but IIRC went with elisa because It was python [01:05] Catch you later.. Gotta make our young one some lunch [01:05] i see [01:05] OpenMedia, oh? [01:05] proposal? [01:05] accepted? [01:06] Can anyone help me add a 250GB hdd to my Mythbuntu 8.04 for extra storage [01:08] Im ripping all my dvd's to mythbuntu each take bout 3hrs but ima need more space [01:08] already have it plugged in? [01:08] jayshotta: How did you set up your disk originally? (LVM perhaps?) [01:10] One sata standard install the second drive is ditached [01:10] detached [01:11] How big is drive one? How much is on your data directory? [01:11] LeeSharp: i think he just wants storage groups, nothing fancy [01:11] Its a fresh install 2x 250SATA drives [01:12] may not even need a storage group if he's just using it for DVD ripping [01:12] going to be recording anything besides DVDs to this drive or just ripping DVDs? [01:13] Ick... If it is very fresh, I would reinstall LVM to use both drives as a single filesystem. But I may be overshooting the mark. What are you trying to do? Is your system "full" and you need more space? [01:13] jsu ripping DVD [01:14] I archive my shows n delete them after a while [01:14] no need to overcomplicate with LVM then if it's already installed and working [01:14] there is no need for LVM [01:14] In that cast, fire up gparted and format it, and mount it in /mnt with user permissions. [01:14] jayshotta, IMO, you should do storage groups, then stick your dvd's on the second drive [01:14] In that case... [01:15] fetching file 1 of 784.... this might take a while [01:16] I will do g parted and format n mount [01:16] jayshotta: install gparted with synaptic and then start it up to format it. I'd recommend XFS since there will be large file sizes [01:16] what does storage group do ? [01:16] do you need a storage group for the DVD ripper? [01:16] i thought it was just a folder path [01:17] I jus want to have enough space to have all my DVD's [01:17] watever is easiest n simplest [01:17] now I have a fresh 250 and an unformated 250 in system [01:18] ok. just start up gparted and format the unformated one with XFS and make a folder you'd like to mount it to [01:18] making the folder in their your home folder or the /opt directory would probably be a good place [01:18] c3rb3rus5: debtorrent FTW. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedPackageManagement [01:18] in your home folder i mean [01:19] ok so /home/movies will do [01:19] well, in your user home folder i mean [01:20] /home/username/movies [01:20] yeah [01:22] so when current 250 is full how do I direct myth to change to /home/username/movies to collect new movies so they are visible in Media library [01:22] hmm... i haven't ripped dvds in a while. anyone else know if it's the Archive File Settings path he'd want to set as that location? [01:23] so if i do an upgrade over the network will it be pulling anything differently then if i do it via the alternate install cd? [01:24] when does the new release emerge?! :) [01:24] can set the folder for Video files by going to Utilities/Setup -> Setup -> Media Settings -> Video Settings [01:24] If LVM is less comlicated I am willing to try [01:24] -> General Settings [01:24] ooh ok [01:25] thank you so library will still see both sources of video file storage [01:25] so, you could actually do one of two things... you could mount the directory it's set to by default to your new drive [01:25] or you can set that folder to your custom location [01:25] no, it only sees one folder for video files [01:27] thats wat i wanted to avoid I wanted when one 250 is fill to shift to the other so LVM sounds like only option to have one large drive [01:27] yeah, if you want one large drive, then you would need to do LVM [01:27] How would i go that route [01:28] I do have the alternate CD [01:28] personally, i have one hard drive for LiveTV & Recording and a second drive for everything else [01:28] i'm not sure how to do LVM myself, i've never done it [01:28] Your setup is kings wat Im goin for [01:28] but 250 with movies get filled quick really fast [01:29] yes it would. I have a 750GB for my second drive [01:29] bout 1-2 gigs per movie [01:29] a 250 for my main [01:30] not a bad Idea I might just go your route get a 750 myself and mount it then just transfer movie files over [01:30] might as well go for a 1TB :) [01:30] I kno rite [01:30] hell, just buy a gigabit NAS and load it up with a few TB drives :-p [01:31] the method you proposed is that your current config [01:31] I have a 500GB nad but cannot get MYTH to see it [01:31] its running freenas [01:32] wow.... the upgrade is downloading at 600 b/s [01:32] that is like 9 days to complete [01:32] server are jamed [01:32] i'm burning the alternate install disk [01:32] Servers loadbalance been kicking in all day [01:32] http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014+1035915133+103530090&name=800GB+and+higher [01:32] gonna update from that [01:33] it has been the sam for about 3 days now the Alt ISO [01:33] prices are not bad [01:34] does that mean that its not a smart idea? maybe upgrade another time? [01:34] Servers are gonna be like that for atleast 3 days [01:34] after tonight, i wont have a chance to upgrade till at least mon [01:35] no it mean if you have a Alternate ISO and i was updated less than 3 days ago then i is probly the same [01:35] i just got it tonight [01:35] so i would hope [01:35] where you going to rysnc of jigdo? [01:35] s/of/or [01:36] i honestly dont know [01:36] i think rsync... i dont know what jigdo is [01:36] err my spelling sucks today [01:37] what iso do you have [01:37] ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso [01:37] got it over BT [01:38] how long ago did you get it [01:38] less then an hour [01:39] you downloaded it less than a hour ago? [01:40] yea [01:41] here check the md5sum 7d0ac92c56361949d099dd9337c975e7 *ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso [01:41] if it is the same upgrade from it [01:42] md5sum [01:42] does that work in win? [01:42] no [01:42] when is mythbuntu 8.10 scheduled/likely for release?? [01:42] oct? [01:42] sorry 8.04 [01:42] you will have to get a md5 tool [01:43] looking now [01:43] should be in the next day or so [01:43] cool thanks [01:44] so is upgrading a mythbuntu install using an alternate 8.04 image gonna screw things up... maybe i should ask that before going forward [01:44] c3rb3rus5: http://beeblebrox.org/hashtab/ [01:45] ok [01:45] ye the hash checks out ok [01:45] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [01:45] goto: Upgrading using the alternate CD/DVD [01:45] that is not gonna trash a mythbuntu install though... right? basically i dont wanna end up losing mythtv [01:46] i'd wait... it won't be that long :p [01:46] haha [01:46] maybe its for the best [01:47] okay [01:47] well you know [01:48] my luck and previous track records with everything mythtv suggest that doing anything out of the ordinary will be catastrophic [01:49] heh, i have been running the alpha and beta then rc's it has been a bummping ride, the price i pay for cutting edge [01:49] i dump my database every hour in cause for failer [01:49] failure [01:50] yeah, my upgrade from 7.10 to alpha didn't go super smooth. backend kept crashing. so, installed beta on a second harddrive to test things then reloading final from scratch on my original drive [01:50] got a brand new box for my backend, so it's a good time to reload anyway :) [01:50] yeah done that too [01:51] yeesh... 5684 seeders for 8.04 desktop [01:53] woop... 4332... refresh was turned off. still, lotta people :) [01:57] i am currenly using a firewire card, as unput 3... i originally configured my kworld card as input 1, and firewire before i upgraded to .21 as input 2 [01:58] i dont use the card anymore (analog sounds like chipmonks) [01:58] so i have only one tuner as card 3 [01:59] also, mytharchive refuses to work when i try to export tv to dvd... [01:59] i'm thinkin a fresh reinstall might clear up some other issues too [01:59] c3rb3rus5: sound like your audio setting is off if it sound like the chipmonks [01:59] i was playing around with it for a good while [01:59] i finally gave up [01:59] haha [02:00] every once in a while firewire just stops working... although i think i found out how to solve that issue [02:00] there are setting in "capture card' in backend and settings in 'Recording profiles' [02:00] its very finicky :-p [02:00] i'm just glad i figured out how to get my spdif working on the new soundcard i got. woo for real surround sound now! :D [02:00] haha, nice [02:01] http://www.razerzone.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=41 [02:01] my was to and i had to got to each profile and hit enter though all the screens to get it to stop [02:01] got one of those for $49 off woot.com [02:01] npurciful: you had chipmunk sound too? [02:01] yeah [02:02] i have 4tuners [02:02] its like the audio is timescaled and stutters [02:02] so its chipmunks stutter, chipmunks, etc [02:03] that is sweet video and audio? [02:03] but since i have firewire working great, i guess i can't complain [02:03] yeam the vid and audio would stutter a little [02:03] s/yeam/yea, [02:04] c3rb3rus5: i spent days getting thing to work, i was about to shoot myself in the foot then it started working [02:04] haha [02:04] i bought the system feb of last year [02:04] yeah, i tried getting that sound card to work on 7.10 without much luck [02:04] put it together, had a hell of a time getting things to work [02:04] works right out of the box in 8.04 :D [02:04] so naturely i had to break it to fix it again [02:04] then firewire stopped working [02:04] and the system was dead [02:04] well [02:04] more or less [02:05] the card was not working, there is no fclear qam around here [02:05] so it sat for months [02:05] and then i tried it one day and the firewire gods were smiling upon me [02:06] i think overall i have installed about 15 different times altogether...resorted to trying vista mce once, and sage tv [02:06] maybe more then 15 [02:06] its been painful [02:06] haha [02:06] heh, becomes easier [02:06] npurciful: yea.. once it works... i wanna bgreak things again. never happy [02:12] ah, i back [02:13] i was checking out the AC-1 Gaming card [02:13] whats that? [02:13] the one i linked [02:13] right [02:14] fantastic sound! [02:14] put in Star Wars Ep 2 to test it out [02:14] honestly, i never really noticed a difference between decent onboard sound and a soundcard... [02:14] then again i dont have surround speakers.. [02:15] the optical surely helps [02:15] yeah i love my Audigy Platium cost me 329.99 like 6 years ago [02:16] yeah i have it hooked up to a 5.1 receiver [02:16] yeah all sound goes though my 5.1 sound system [02:18] AC-1 looks like a emu10k1 chip [02:18] that card definitely ain't worth full retail, but $49 was hard to pass up [02:18] no, C-media [02:18] sec [02:18] yeah that is a steel [02:18] C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] [02:20] woot.com is an awesome website if you've never checked it out [02:20] they sell one item every day. cheap but really really good stuff sometimes [02:20] sometimes they're the first place to sell it too [02:21] bag of crap [02:21] hehe yeah [02:22] huh never hurd of them [02:23] the woot off's rule. 24-72 hours of non-stop sales. soon as the item is sold out another item goes up [02:23] good things are gone in seconds [02:25] crazy i guess it works for them [02:29] well i think i am going to watch some tv [02:29] later [02:38] new Lost! [02:57] superm1: Still around? [04:01] rhpot1991, yo [04:13] Anyone know why users-admin won't unlock on a new Hardy alt-install? [04:28] is 8.04 RC the new hotness or is an official 8.04 mythbuntu going to be released later? [04:34] final will be released [05:19] darthanubis: whats up? [05:19] you see what I said about ffmpeg before? [06:11] hi [06:14] anyone here got a kworld atsc 110? [07:05] rhpot1991, you get my email? [07:05] bug #6366 [07:06] Launchpad bug 6366 in ffmpeg "Please enable AAC Support in ffmpeg" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6366 [07:07] darthanubis: ffmpeg in ubuntu doesn't have aac enabled [07:07] you need medibuntu ffmpeg for that [07:07] and it should work fine then [07:08] no it does not [07:08] thats what I had installe [07:08] ddid you even look at the email [07:08] the bug report? [07:08] yes [07:08] the script has a type [07:08] typo [07:08] no it doesn't [07:08] "aac" "libfaac" [07:09] geez [07:09] aac is correct [07:09] * rhpot1991 just used it 2 minutes ago [07:09] one of them is an older way of doing it, so either the mythbuntu is behind or yours is behind [07:09] I'm telling you what happened with the package on this system [07:09] you saw which package I was using [07:09] either way mine works the medibuntu [07:12] thats an unacceptable reply [07:12] what about the documented evidence? [07:12] in the forums where it works for lots of people [07:13] as well as people I've spoken with on here [07:13] "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. [07:13] and works for me myself [07:13] well I told you I never used nuv or tested them [07:13] so I don't know what else you want me to say about that [07:13] it wwas broke for mpg as well [07:14] FFmpeg version SVN-rUNKNOWN, Copyright (c) 2000-2007 Fabrice Bellard, et al [07:14] in all honesty, you are the first person I have heard any problems from other than permission issues [07:14] thats the mediabuntu ffmpeg [07:14] we agreed yesterday we had the same package [07:15] there was 3 other bug reports that says I was not the only one [07:15] dpkg -l ffmpeg | grep ^ii [07:15] seriously you aren't listening to me [07:15] ubuntu ffmpeg doesn't have aac [07:15] medibuntu does [07:15] so use that [07:16] yuor not listening [07:16] we did this yesterday [07:16] I toldd you I had the mediabuntu ffmpeg [07:16] you checked and said "good", you don't remeber? [07:17] if that is the case then its a whole nother issue [07:17] I have one I compiled installed now [07:17] I don't remember what all we checked, its been a lot of stuff [07:17] thats why we go in circles [07:17] and thats why I documented it for you [07:18] you keep telling me to use a pcakage that never works for me [07:18] just use that if it fixes the problem, this isn't something I can change since I can't modify medibuntu and aac can't be included on the ubuntu variation [07:18] its called libfaac [07:18] thats why [07:18] yes I am well aware of that [07:18] look at the report please [07:18] --enable-libfaac [07:18] its included in medibuntu [07:18] I have looked at it [07:19] you aren't telling me anything new [07:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythexport/+bug/221053/comments/1 [07:19] did you see that? [07:19] and the difference in the two [07:19] 2. There is no "libfaac" support compiled into mediabuntu's ffmpeg. Thus [07:19] resulting in the file error. [07:19] that is wrong [07:19] and while I'm using a ffmpeg, that works for me [07:20] your script still does not call ffmpeg and start [07:20] hi all [07:20] even after I changed all "aac" to "libfaac" [07:21] if you could share with me how your script calls ffmpeg, I can fix it myself [07:21] is myth supports nexus-s cards? [07:21] its just a perl script so you can modify it yourself [07:22] not listenig again [07:22] I did [07:22] if you could share with me how your script calls ffmpeg, I can fix it myself [07:23] (2:21:56 AM) rhpot1991: its just a perl script so you can modify it yourself [07:23] at the end of the script its supposed to call ffmpeg to start the job [07:23] why are you being so crass about this? [07:23] look at the code, it stores commands to run along the way [07:23] and runs them at the end [07:24] are you amd64 or i386? [07:25] and did you verify that ffmpeg did not have libaac installed on your medibuntu package? [07:26] amd64 [07:26] and of course I did [07:26] as am I and I can tell you that it has aac support [07:26] and is called correctly with -acodec aac [07:26] thats what the bug report is all about [07:27] you are filing a bug that doesn't make sense, as it works, so you have some other issue [07:27] built on Mar 12 2008 15:36:03, gcc: 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu4) [07:27] /home/anubis/store/mythtv/video/1061_20080422190000.mpg: I/O error [07:27] occured [07:27] built on Apr 24 2008 01:48:26, gcc: 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7) [07:27] Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: [07:27] 1000.00 (1000/1) -> 29.97 (30000/1001) [07:27] Input #0, nuv, from [07:27] '/home/anubis/store/mythtv/video/1061_20080423200000.nuv': [07:27] Duration: 34:48:29.08, start: 0.400000, bitrate: 127 kb/s [07:29] only issue I have is the maintainer of the script does not want to acknowldge my bug [07:29] darthanubis: could be another issue with ffmpeg, and sadly I don't maintain that so I couldn't really tell you what the problem is there [07:29] cause its not a bug with my script [07:29] its either a ffmpeg bug or a problem with your video files [07:29] and you are here pointing the finger at me [07:29] thats why its filed as a ffmpeg bug [07:30] that affects other programs that use ffmpeg [07:30] as the other bugs clearly state [07:30] well you wont get aac in ubuntu [07:30] thats why you need to go to medibuntu [07:31] if you were to busy to read the duplicates [07:31] which I have stated before [07:31] I looked at it, and I know it wont happen [07:31] thats why I did, and thats how all this started [07:31] yet you continue to repeat that? [07:31] as you continue to ask for a feature that cannot be added to ubuntu [07:31] licensing forbids it [07:32] forbids libfaac? [07:32] no aac [07:32] libfaac does the samething [07:32] and is gpl [07:32] ubuntu can't add that? [07:33] my understanding was no, you wont get x264 either I don't think [07:36] darthanubis: Unknown codec 'libfaac' [07:36] 3:0.cvs20070307-5ubuntu7+medibuntu1 [07:36] -acodec aac and -acodec libfaac call the same library in ffmpeg. It is only a matter of acodec naming format changes that happened recently. -acodec aac us the old style, -acodec libfaac is the new style. Change occurred about six months ago. libfaac support won't be added to Ubuntu ffmpeg for the same reason that mp3 support won't be, it's patent encumbered. [07:37] thank you iamlindoro_ [07:37]