[00:00] <LilJohn> timboy ohh lol
[00:00] <mijac> when I start the windows partition,gives me the start safe menu or normal, and it does not matter what I choose and when start to loads windows restart the machine
[00:00] <mijac> very strange
[00:00] <sCOTTo> hey hwats the quick command to check your disk space?
[00:00] <CyberCod> mijac:   XP or Vista?
[00:00] <LilJohn> timboy anyways which ftp server did you install? filezilla?
[00:00] <Naib> sCOTTo: df -h
[00:00] <mijac> xp
[00:00] <sCOTTo> thanks
[00:00] <one_tao> mijac, no grub
[00:00] <one_tao> ?
[00:00] <matt444> why can i not see shares on my network?  i'm using the computer that i want to see the shares.  i have a samba password set up.  yet it doesn't work?  where do i even begin to fix this problem?
[00:00] <linkmaster03> I cannot remove OSS, this shows up in terminal ( http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/64151/ )
[00:01] <nav> hey guys, anyone knows what time hardy will be available for download?
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[00:01] <Seveas> !isitout | nav
[00:01] <ubotu> nav: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[00:01] <CyberCod> mijac:  there should be an option for safe mode that tells you every step of the boot... then you can see how far it gets before reboot
[00:01] <sCOTTo> wo wi like thin clients :)
[00:01] <mijac> ok
[00:01] <mijac> I will do that and I will tell you then
[00:01] <CyberCod> k
[00:01] <q_a_z_steve> Naib: how to shred FREE SPACE?
[00:01] <nav> thanks
[00:01] <reic> guys, i got an whole partition for my /home, i want a fresh, clean install of hardy - can i just delete everything in /home but the files i want to keep? (i.e. documents, music 'n stuff)
[00:01] <timboy> LilJohn, i pmed you
[00:01] <Naib> q_a_z_steve: free space or free partition?
[00:02] <q_a_z_steve> free space on an ntfs part
[00:02] <mijac> but you know why my 2 partitions the ntfs from windows and the fat 32 where I have my files are not automounting ath the start of ubuntu, I have to enter manually
[00:02] <Lowkey420> lowkey
[00:02] <Naib> q_a_z_steve: oh ntfs... not my remit
[00:02] <linkmaster03> I cannot remove OSS, this shows up in terminal ( http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/64151/ )
[00:02] <Seveas> !repeat | linkmaster03
[00:02] <ubotu> linkmaster03: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:02] <matt444> why can i not see shares on my network?  i'm using the computer that i want to see the shares.  i have a samba password set up.  yet it doesn't work?  where do i even begin to fix this problem?
[00:03] <LilJohn> timboy i see that, im answering you
[00:03] <Naib> matt444: workgroup correct?
[00:03] <Dh08> I have an installed copy of windows on my pc can i run it with a virtual machine?
[00:03] <Naib> matt444: browsing linux <=> linux or linux <=> windows
[00:03] <squish> would anyone know what time hardy will be available?
[00:03] <yabuk> i've got this error: "GstPlayBin: A subtitle stream was detected, but no video stream." when I tried to play a ogm file, how to fix it?
[00:03] <mijac> how can I add a side panel like vista in ubuntu ?
[00:03] <Naib> Dh08: errr... vmware can boot via raw HD access, but some windows version bomb out due to ACPI stuff
[00:04] <Seveas> mijac, with compiz+screenlets
[00:04] <Naib> squish: in 10seconds
[00:04] <one_tao> mijac, is your desktop gnome or kde?
[00:04] <mEck0> Hi! I have a HP 6510b business laptop and wonder if there is a way I can get longer battery life in gnu/linux? In ubuntu with gnome I have about 2½-3h, while in Windows vista I have about 5h 25min, which is a huge difference
[00:04] <matt444> Naib:  linux by itself.  one computer communicating with samba on itself.
[00:05] <Naib> matt444: can you browse by IP?
[00:05] <jrwa> I've tried every idea I've found on the forums, but couldn't fix the upgrade :(
[00:06] <Dh08> i have xp sp2/sp3 installed with that work? and is it even recommended?
[00:06] <sirhcjw> hey when will 8.04 be available for update from 7.10?
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[00:06] <Starnestommy> sirhcjw: sometime tomorrow
[00:06] <rsk> sirhcjw: when it's released
[00:06] <one_tao> sirhcjw, by the end of 4.24
[00:06] <sirhcjw> oh bugger
[00:06] <sirhcjw> well it is the 24th
[00:06] <whazilla> hey
[00:06] <one_tao> sirhcjw, end
[00:07] <sirhcjw> oh ok then
[00:07] <whazilla> when is the release due ?
[00:07] <Starnestommy> definitely by midnight on the 25th
[00:07] <warriorforgod> whazilla: the 24th
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[00:07] <Seveas> !isitout | whazilla
[00:07] <ubotu> whazilla: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[00:07] <whazilla> oh its the 24 th
[00:07] <sirhcjw> I will try again tommorow then
[00:07] <sirhcjw> :)
[00:07] <Symmetria> anyone here using ocfs2?
[00:07] <sirhcjw> :(
[00:07] <matt444> Naib:  no.
[00:07] <whazilla> still no gta4 :/
[00:08] <Naib> matt444: tail yr samba logs
[00:08] <Naib> while trying to connect
[00:08] <one_tao> sirhcjw, i work at oregonstate - it's a prime mirror osuosl, it's not here yet...
[00:08] <matt444> i don't know what tail means
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[00:08] <whazilla> Naib: should i download the release candidate or wait ?
[00:08] <nobx> hi, when the update-manager upgrades to a new release, is there a way to copy down the list of packages that it wants to remove/install/upgrade?
[00:09] <lwizardl> wait
[00:09] <stoked> does the hardy installer have an option for LVM ?
[00:09] <Naib> nobx: you could do it via the commandline: ie apt-get update
[00:09] <Naib> that will list the packages
[00:09] <Mimi> Does anyone know if there's a way to remove those "Nick1 Joined" "Nick2 Left" in Xchat?
[00:09] <Naib> Mimi: use the ignore function
[00:09] <nobx> naib: even the ones that are supposed to get removed?
[00:09] <chaqui> yeah, so the linksys works
[00:10] <jrwa> well, it seems I can't get rid of these packages
[00:10] <chaqui> and i guess the belkin can just stay with my cousin
[00:10] <Starnestommy> Mimi: if it's regular xchat and not xchat-gnome, right-click on the channel tab and uncheck "show join/part messages" or /set irc_conf_mode on
[00:10] <jrwa> how could I remove them no matter what the post-removal script does?
[00:10] <Seveas> Mimi, rightclick on the channelname in the channel list and untick 'show join/part messages'
[00:10] <Naib> nobx: it should do - been a while since used an debian-based system
[00:10] <chaqui> cybercod: thanks
[00:10] <CyberCod> sorry i couldn't help with the other one
[00:11] <Mimi> Neat seveas  Starnestommy  Naib  thanks :) is there a way to make it permanent? loooooveeely!
[00:11] <bw> I just installed ubuntu, but the sound doesn't work.  When I click on the speaker icon, it says "No volume control gstreamer devices and/or plugins found."  I know the soundcard works, since it works when I boot into debian.  Any ideas?
[00:11] <hassan> can i convert my ubuntu 7.10 to kubuntu 8.04 LTS ?
[00:11] <chaqui> its ok, i was just being stubn not to grab this one
[00:11] <Seveas> Mimi, the unticking thing should stick
[00:11] <Mimi> Good good :D
[00:11] <chaqui> whats XGL and why do i need it?
[00:11] <chaqui> :-)
[00:11] <one_tao> hassan, yes there are detail instructions on the ubunut site
[00:11] <Naib> bw: debian != ubuntu, is the driver loaded?
[00:12] <CyberCod> lol ubunut
[00:12] <Theo_> I used a tutorial at pendrivelinux.com to install ubuntu on a pendrive. How do I make it save changes and function almost as if it were running from the harddrive?
[00:12] <one_tao> ima typer
[00:12] <bw> Naib: how do I check?
[00:12] <mijac> how I can re activate the automounting of my hardrive partitions
[00:12] <mijac> ?
[00:12] <q_a_z_steve> Theo_: find the other part of pendrivelinux.com which talks about persistent
[00:12] <Theo_> ok, will look for it
[00:12] <one_tao> mijac, edti /etc/fstab
[00:12] <CyberCod> mijac: make sure they are in /etc/fstab
[00:12] <hwilde> my /etc/timezone file is correct, but when I type in "date" it shows UTC time not adjusted?
[00:13] <one_tao> see?
[00:13] <kyi> >quit
[00:13] <jrwa> is there any way I can get help on the upgrading process? none of the forum posts seems to help me :/
[00:13] <one_tao> gud typer
[00:13] <CyberCod> one_tao: we all have our dayes mate
[00:13] <CyberCod> ;)
[00:13] <CyberCod> it was just a funny word.... ubunut
[00:14] <jrwa> is it safe to remove the post-removal scripts?
[00:14] <chaqui> cybercod whats xgl
[00:14] <CyberCod> I=ubunut
[00:14] <chaqui> and why do i need it?
[00:14] <CyberCod> did you try googlin it?
[00:14] <CyberCod> I believe it is related to compiz
[00:15] <chaqui> thats what im trying to figure out!
[00:15] <Mimi> Isnt it card 3d acceleration?!
[00:15] <chaqui> i have an ATI card
[00:15] <CyberCod> what ati card
[00:15] <chaqui> i had to open my repositories
[00:15] <CyberCod> sayin "an ATI card" is about as useful as sayin "a Belkin card"
[00:15] <chaqui> how do i look up what ati card i have?
[00:15] <CyberCod> lspci
[00:16] <BaD_CrC> chaqui: open a terminal an type "lspci | grep -i vga"
[00:16] <wild_oscar> what can one do to uninstall a package if aptitude returns
[00:16]  * CyberCod is grabbing a sodipop
[00:16] <wild_oscar>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[00:16] <wild_oscar>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[00:16] <Yoann512> tain ya du peuple ici :)
[00:16] <chaqui>  ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1200 Series
[00:16] <LilJohn> would that work even if the card is on an APG or PCI express interface?
[00:17] <LilJohn> lspic i mean
[00:17] <BaD_CrC> LilJohn: yes
[00:18] <CyberCod> ah
[00:18] <CyberCod> the Dew of Mountain
[00:18] <hwilde> help my /etc/timezone file is correct, but when I type in "date" it shows UTC time not adjusted?
[00:18] <stoked> LVM in installer anyone?
[00:18] <chaqui> ooo
[00:19] <chaqui> so now i can install XGL?
[00:19] <hwilde> !lvm | stoked
[00:19] <ubotu> stoked: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[00:19] <hwilde> help my /etc/timezone file is correct, but when I type in "date" it shows UTC time not adjusted?
[00:19] <hwilde> Jack_Sparrow,  I know you know this one...  my /etc/timezone file is correct, but when I type in "date" it shows UTC time not adjusted?
[00:19] <dassouki> whenever i plug in my other monitor, my resolutions are the same but everything is bigger, and my screen scales off, ie when i go right on the screen, the screen shifts
[00:20] <hwilde> !fixres | dassouki
[00:20] <ubotu> dassouki: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[00:20] <bw> nobody can give me information about how to make my sound work?
[00:20] <hwilde> !sound | bw
[00:20] <ubotu> bw: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:20] <CyberCod> chaqui:  if it were me, I'd just try to install the compiz stuff, and XGL will come along as necessary
[00:20] <jlewis2979> **HELP** I'm trying ti install ubuntu 8.01 on my vista laptop. I boot with the and select "install ubuntu" and the ubuntu load/logo screen comes up but then it freezes and doesn't seem to do anything else (Just carries on showing the ubuntu logo screen) Can anyone please help?
[00:20] <hwilde> jlewis, check the cd for defects
[00:21] <jlewis2979> hwilde, how?
[00:21] <timboy> LilJohn, did give up on the pm or are you writing a book? ;)
[00:21] <hwilde> jlewis, it's one of the boot options
[00:21] <LilJohn> timboy
[00:21] <lastelement1> hey all what is a good movie editor (mpg) for ubuntu?
[00:21] <CyberCod> jlewis2979: also, if it is showing a moving progress bar, then leave it be for a while
[00:21] <hwilde> !mpg | lastelement1
[00:21] <ubotu> lastelement1: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:21] <jlewis2979> no the progress bar isn't moving
[00:21] <lastelement1> hwilde i need a movie editor not infor about it
[00:22] <hwilde> jlewis2979, reboot and choose the option "Check cd for defects"
[00:22] <macd_> lastelement1, you trying to reencode video, or edit?
[00:22] <lastelement1> macd_ edit
[00:22] <urthmover> :-)
[00:22] <CyberCod> jlewis2979: will the numlock key or capslock key turn on the keyboard lights?
[00:22] <macd_> lastelement1, I like Kino.
[00:22] <twistage> How do I get conky to load on startup?
[00:22] <wild_oscar> anyone know how to solve the "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state" problem?
[00:22] <mattywarr> Evening all - I'm having problems with my VNC server - i've installed vnc4server from the repo, but can't find a way to run it - any ideas?
[00:23] <LilJohn> timboy hang on im fixing some things here at work
[00:23] <CyberCod> twistage: put it in Sessions
[00:23] <hwilde> mattywarr, vino-preferences
[00:23] <timboy> ok
[00:23] <hwilde> !vino | mattywarr
[00:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vino - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:23] <linkmaster03> Firefox exits about 7 seconds after it starts, I had just installed OSS. Please help!
[00:23] <hwilde> !vnc | mattywarr
[00:23] <ubotu> mattywarr: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[00:23] <twistage> CyberCod: thanks
[00:23] <hwilde> !freenx | mattywarr
[00:23] <ubotu> mattywarr: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[00:23] <mattywarr> cheers hwilde! Will look through them
[00:23] <paul_colwell_> How to I reset the top menu (in GNOME)  The person who owns this computer has screwed it up and I can't seem to move the firefox, evolution, and help icons to the right at all so that I can stick the menus back there
[00:23] <stoked> ubotu: I was asking about the installer actually, does it have LVM during drive partitioning
[00:24] <bobe> join #ubuntu
[00:24]  * milia brb
[00:24] <stoked> oops
[00:24] <stoked> haha
[00:24] <hwilde> mattywarr, freenx rocks
[00:24] <macd_> paul_colwell_, you prolly jsut need to right clic, and re-add the main-menu applet.
[00:24] <odder> paul_colwell_: did you try right-clicking the icons and unlocking them?
[00:24] <paul_colwell_> odder, unlocking.  DOH!
[00:24] <mattywarr> hwilde, can I get a windows client to connect to it? I want to connect to my ubuntu pc from work (Windows XP)
[00:24] <stoked> can you get freenx to connect to the local session?
[00:24]  * paul_colwell_ slpas himself
[00:25] <macd_> mattywarr, yep, there are windows clients.
[00:25] <hwilde> paul_colwell_,  you could sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel && apt-get install gnome-panel
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> paul_colwell_, http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[00:25] <mattywarr> thanks guys :) Will look it up
[00:25] <macd_> stoked, for a local session why not just use, X, or xdcmp.
[00:25] <bw> ok, following the sound troubleshooting instructions, I typed in 'modprobe snd-sb16', and it seemed to work, but when I try to run alsamixer, it says "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device".
[00:25] <hwilde> mattywarr, most of htem have a java applet web browser.  that should work on any os
[00:25] <paul_colwell_> hwilde, nope, unlocking them did it; now I can move to my heart's content
[00:25] <mattywarr> wicked!
[00:25] <hwilde> paul_colwell_, but I like overkill
[00:25] <odder> paul_colwell_: simplest solutions are nearly always best :)
[00:26] <paul_colwell_> hwilde, you're killing me.  No, your overkillng me.  ;)
[00:26] <paul_colwell_> Thanks all
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[00:26] <CyberCod> bw:  this is just a shot in the dark, but have you checked to see that the card was seated properly in the socket?
[00:26] <paul_colwell_> It's always GUI stuff that messes me up.
[00:26] <dassouki> hwilde, the resolution mixup only happens when i plug in an other monitor. it's perfect when i'm on my laptop, it's just when i plug it in to my external that my resolution changes. the link u sent me does not deal with that :D
[00:26] <hwilde> why would my date command display UTC instead of timezone adjusted time??
[00:26] <stoked> macd_ no I mean, can you connect to the local session remotely
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> paul_colwell_, Often it is the user..
[00:26] <CyberCod> sometimes you gotta make sure there is gas in the tank before you pull your arm out of socket yanking the cord
[00:27] <bw> CyberCod: it works properly when I boot into a different OS
[00:27] <stoked> ie. leave xchat running, and login remotely and see the same xchat process window
[00:27] <macd_> stoked, yep
[00:27] <CyberCod> k
[00:27] <dame> does anyone have connected irda for transfering data with phone?
[00:27] <CyberCod> just checkin the basics
[00:27] <chaqui> lame.
[00:28] <dassouki> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[00:28] <CyberCod> dame: if you're using the moschip semiconductor usb dongle, just forget it
[00:28] <dassouki> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.. I get that whenever i plug in my other monitor
[00:28] <paul_colwell_> So in case anyone cared... I used Linux exclusively for four-five years, then had to use windows when I took a job last fall.  I've left there, and now get a linux workstation again at my new job.  YAY!!!
[00:28] <chaqui> haha
[00:29] <chaqui> i used linux when i was a kid
[00:29] <chaqui> and i hate vista
[00:29] <mattywarr> Hey guys, tried to run the get-apt update once i added the freenx repos, and i get this eror: wget http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/seveas.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[00:29] <chaqui> so back to linux for me
[00:29] <paul_colwell_> It's awesome.  I look forward to work.  See what a little thing like a stable OS can do?
[00:29] <schnoowork> should 8.04 automatically appear in the 7.10 update manager ?
[00:29] <CyberCod> my son has used Linux since 3 years old
[00:29] <mattywarr> whoops wrong error
[00:29] <one_tao> paul_colwell_, I work where they order Dells and run WinXP. good there's ssh !
[00:29] <kanuha> has anyone setup and used a verizon usb modem with Ubuntu?
[00:29] <Joeb454> schnoowork, yeah it'll appear some time soon :)
[00:29] <paul_colwell_> CyberCod, well, mines 4, but he's been on Linux for a couple months
[00:29] <mattywarr> E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/hhttp could not be found.
[00:29] <dame> CyberCod: sorry but i dont understand. how can i see am i using what you just said :D. its a gembird irda device
[00:29] <chaqui> cybercod xgl still doesnt like me
[00:29] <schnoowork> ahhh so its not quite up yet
[00:30] <Shpook> Alright, gnome-panel is really annoying me. I'm trying to add a panel to the bottom of my screen, and on every reboot, it ends up on top. Only thing I've found through google is trying to use ubuntu-tweak, but that didn't help. Anyone know how to fix this?
[00:30] <paul_colwell_> CyberCod, plays flash truck games
[00:30] <bw> man, i'm not going to be able to use ubuntu if i can't make the sound work :/
[00:30] <mijac> can someone tellme how is a normal line in fstab for a ntfs disk ?
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[00:30] <schnoowork> a friend told me to do sudo update-manager -d ? that shows the new distribution but doing it the standard way doesnt. Should i wait till it appears in the standard one or would this be good enough ?
[00:30] <CyberCod> dame:  you can go into a terminal and type      lsusb | grep moschip
[00:31] <dame> CyberCod: nothing came out
[00:31] <kurumin> hey
[00:31] <CyberCod> paul_colwell_: mine does just about everything on it...
[00:31] <Pelo> Shpook, try throught  gconf-editor,  play around with the settings under /apps/panel/default I think
[00:31] <macd_> Shpook, did you try saving your session yet?
[00:31] <kurumin> that's all folks
[00:31] <paul_colwell_> CyberCod, how old is he now?
[00:31] <hwilde> Shpook, yeah save your session
[00:31] <odder> Shpook: for me right clicking the panel and choosing properties --> orientation --> bottom always worked...
[00:31] <Shpook> Umm...no, but for some reason that made me feel stupid. :-D
[00:31] <CyberCod> dame: then you don't have the chip I had... you may have a chance, but I'm not the guy to ask.... I nearly tore my hair out trying to get my treo 300 to sync to that thing
[00:31] <macd_> Shpook, System-->prefs-->Sessions
[00:31] <juice__> i upgraded from 7.1 to the 8.04 HH RC and now my emerald themer doesnt work :(
[00:31]  * Pelo seconds the save session suggestion 
[00:32] <CyberCod> paul_colwell_: he's 5 and a half
[00:32] <Pelo> juice__, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:32] <mattywarr> any ideas why I may get this error when running the update check? E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/hhttp could not be found.
[00:32] <Shpook> odder: When I tried that, everything but top was grayed out.
[00:32] <paul_colwell_> School is going to hurt, unless there's a linux lab
[00:32] <dame> CyberCod: ok, thanks anyway
[00:32] <twistage> How do I disable the auto disk check, after X number of restarts
[00:32] <sniker> schnoowork: -d means devel release
[00:32] <CyberCod> paul_colwell_: he watches cartoons, plays games via emulators, surfs online (safely thanks to glubble)
[00:32] <Shpook> Okay, I delete and add the panel to the bottom agin, then save the session and reboot. I'll be back with another question in a few.
[00:32] <one_tao> mijac, /dev/hd??       /media/ntfs            ntfs    defaults         0       0
[00:32] <Shpook> Thanks everyone.
[00:33] <sniker> schnoowork: I would advise you to wait unitl the stable, because it will be released in just a couple of hours I guess.
[00:33] <jrwa> hmm... alright, I forced the removal of all packages that were complaining
[00:33] <Shpook> I = I'll
[00:33] <Pelo> twistage,  if you now what is good for you you leave it   you shouldn'T be rebooting that often anyway,  leave it on it is very usefull
[00:33] <jrwa> but I can't install them back, since they complain whith the same 139 error
[00:33] <schnoowork> ahh ok thankyou sniker.
[00:33] <twistage> Pelo: How do at least enable output then? Everytime I get to that point it sits at a black screen for the amount of time it takes
[00:34] <one_tao> mijac, there are some variables in the /etc/fstab line yours will look different than mine
[00:34] <chaqui> oh i didn't restart x
[00:34] <chaqui> :-/
[00:35] <Pelo> twistage, not sure what you mean,  and I don'T think I would be able to tell you how to fix it anyway,   it's running fsck , it can't do that while it finishes booting
[00:35] <chaqui> im so embarrased
[00:35] <gogeta> :P
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[00:36] <fdkrew> hello all how are you guys and girls doing to day
[00:36] <Pelo> fdkrew, getting reasy for the big day tomorrow
[00:37] <fdkrew> can i ask some one here a question about ubuntu?
[00:37] <fdkrew> yea i cant wait
[00:37]  * Pelo notes that it's already "H" day in the UK
[00:37] <one_tao> stoked, you can install the server and then do a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and you'll end up with a very light-weight server w/x
[00:37] <Pelo> fdkrew, here would be the place to ask
[00:37] <fdkrew> I wanted to know if have to reinstall ubuntu just to upgrade
[00:37] <Shpook> No such luck, the new panel is right back at the top again, and won't let me move it to the bottom.
[00:37] <Pelo> fdkrew, it's an upgrade no reinstall needed
[00:37] <Naib> fdkrew: no
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[00:38] <fdkrew> ok
[00:38] <Pelo> fdkrew, what release are you on at the moment it migth have an impact
[00:38] <linkmaster03> How do I select a new device to output sound to on OSS?
[00:38] <dame> im trying to connect this http://shortlink.co.uk/sfs device to my comp. anyone can help me please?
[00:38] <fdkrew> can u upgrade from the beta? install
[00:38] <twistage> Is there any good alternatives to Amarok under Gnome?
[00:38] <Naib> twistage: exaile
[00:38] <zash> twistage: i recomend quod libet
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[00:38] <Shpook> I'm gonna try to upgrade to 8.04RC and see if it fixes gnome-panel.
[00:38] <twistage> Thanks, i'll take a look at both
[00:38] <Pelo> fdkrew, it will just be an update it will happen semy automaccaly
[00:38] <linkmaster03> !oss
[00:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:38] <LainIwakura> Hello, does anyone know when 8.04 will be released?
[00:39] <fdkrew> Pelo, 7.10
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[00:39] <fdkrew> ohh ok
[00:39] <_derspankster> I cannot resolve site www.dslreports.com with any browser on my laptop running 8.04. All other computers on my network can resolve this site regardless of browser. I'm stumped.
[00:39] <linkmaster03> !isitout | LainIwakura
[00:39] <ubotu> LainIwakura: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.
[00:39] <Pelo> fdkrew, don'T install the beta just wait for the upgrade to become available tomorrow
[00:39] <one_tao> LainIwakura, by the end of 4.24
[00:39] <fdkrew> i think im still going to do a reinstall, having some issues with mouse stop working on laptop
[00:39] <Shpook> 8.04 officially comes out on the 27th, right?
[00:40] <one_tao> LainIwakura, Point Barrow, Alaska
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[00:40] <fdkrew> my left click stop working, then comes back 5 min later
[00:40] <Pelo> _derspankster, do you have  a proxy or somethig like that ?
[00:40] <libervisco> Hey
[00:40] <fdkrew> think its a driver issue
[00:40] <CyberCod> twistage:  I second that  exaile is good
[00:40] <Pelo> !enter | fdkrew
[00:40] <ubotu> fdkrew: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[00:40] <tombar> anyone here who knows about openvpn? im stuck following the tutorial ->http://pastebin.ca/995250 any tips?
[00:40] <Stev1> Anyone know what happens tomorrow when the final release is due??
[00:40] <fdkrew> ok sorry first time in this room thanks for the heads up
[00:40] <_derspankster> Pelo: No, and no other sites fail to resolve as far as I can tell.
[00:40] <Pelo> fdkrew, I would suspect a bad mouse
[00:41] <Sapote> read the topic
[00:41] <libervisco> I installed second life and am trying to enter, but it doesn't load the terms of service dialog properly, the window says "loading" and the "agree" tick box is shaded so I can't proceed..
[00:41] <one_tao> Stev1, these dumb questions end (?)
[00:41] <libervisco> I installed it from a getdeb.net package
[00:41] <libervisco> Anyone else had this issue?
[00:41] <libervisco> eh.. it loaded now.. weird
[00:41] <libervisco> never mind :)
[00:41] <fdkrew> Pelo, it even happends with my usb mouse, touch pad, and finger mouse thingy in mid of my keyboard
[00:41] <Pelo> _derspankster, I just tried it , and I have no problem
[00:42] <one_tao> Stev1, the world becomes a better place (?)
[00:42] <punkn00dlez> Could anyone help with a half kubuntu/ half xubuntu question?
[00:42] <_derspankster> Pelo: yes, I can also resolve the site from other computers on my network.
[00:42] <Pelo> fdkrew, no idea then,
[00:42] <Stev1> if we have been installing updates all along.. will we effectively have the new release?
[00:42] <one_tao> punkn00dlez: what is up?
[00:42] <SeaPhor> fdkrew, are you an AC or battery?
[00:43] <Randa1l> fuck you all fucking sheep
[00:43] <Naib> ?
[00:43] <solace> Hello?
[00:43] <one_tao> Randa1l: thanks
[00:43] <Pelo> _derspankster,  I was gonna say isp related but I guess not ,  crtl f5 , might help but probably not
[00:43] <fdkrew> it happends on both ac and battery even with diffrent mouses
[00:43] <solace> Hi.
[00:43] <Randa1l> Ubuntu is the worst distro ever
[00:43] <Pelo> !ops | Randa1l
[00:43] <solace> Ubuntu is the best.
[00:43] <ubotu> Randa1l: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[00:43] <Naib> *TROLL*
[00:43] <Randa1l> ubuntu is fucking over linux
[00:43] <one_tao> Randa1l: I met your mom
[00:43] <solace> It's 1773
[00:43]  * macd_ waits for it
[00:43] <solace> Whats wrong with ubuntu???
[00:43] <punkn00dlez> No CD/DVD writer found.
[00:43] <punkn00dlez> K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation.
[00:43] <DiVoRa1> hehehhhehehehehe
[00:44] <solace> I love ubuntu so much.
[00:44] <Pelo> solace, inter-distro jealousty
[00:44] <Stev1> Why was he so irate...LOL
[00:44] <solace> Haha.
[00:44] <jrwa> every time I try to install a package, post-installation script fails with code 139. I've just upgraded to gutsy from feisty... but didn't work ok
[00:44] <DiVoRa1> LOL
[00:44] <linkmaster03> How do I change the sound device being used in OSS?
[00:44] <Danikar> solace: Dont molest ubuntu plz kthnx
[00:44] <punkn00dlez> that's the message I keep getting and I know it's all plugged up and such. What's going on?
[00:44] <Pelo> solace, don'T love it , just enjoy it , it's only a computer software
[00:44] <Yoann512> clap clap
[00:44] <jrwa> how could I fix the post-installation script issue?
[00:44] <macd_> Hes a gentoo user, he can't help it, hes emerging so he cant do anything but use irssi ;)
[00:44] <solace> Lol, Well, Why do you say it's bad?
[00:44] <ianliu_88> Does Ubuntu fully upgrade to the new Version? From Beta? Or should I reinstall it?
[00:44] <SeaPhor> Thank you Pici!
[00:44] <fdkrew> i love that ubuntu is on top with all there releases in a professonal manner not like others that distros that have long upgrade periods
[00:44] <solace> Im sure it will fully upgrade.
[00:44] <Pelo> jrwa, more details
[00:44] <_derspankster> Pelo: no, that does not help
[00:44] <Naib> macd_: whats wrong with irssi or gentoo for that matter?
[00:44] <DiVoRa1> well....
[00:45] <solace> For some reason, Fusion wont work the cube..
[00:45] <bernier> Hi, is grub2 ready to be used or it's highly unstable?
[00:45] <Naib> highly unstable
[00:45] <Odd-rationale> ianliu_88: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/04/21/upgrading-from-beta-to-rc-and-beyond/
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[00:45] <jrwa> Pelo: the package configuration failed after the dist-upgrade, some with segfault, some on the post-removal script (exiting with code 139)
[00:45] <bernier> ok thanks
[00:45] <Stev1> solace... the current Hardy is beta, yes?
[00:45] <Pelo> _derspankster, no idea
[00:45] <solace> I have beta, Yes.
[00:45] <jrwa> then I forced their removal, so apt-get wouldn't complain
[00:45] <Pelo> jrwa, ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:45] <bazhang> Stev1: release candidate and final in a few hours
[00:46] <Stev1> Tomorrow they release the first .... release...?
[00:46] <solace> Final relase =D
[00:46] <jrwa> Pelo: but it was feisty to gutsy
[00:46] <solace> release*
[00:46] <twistage> CyberCod: Does Exaile have a mini player like Amarok, or do you have to use the big window?
[00:46] <_derspankster> Pelo: me either, totally stumped on this one. Created a new FF profile, deleted the old one - no change
[00:46] <Stev1> I'm just curious what that means to us using the Beta
[00:46] <ianliu_88> Thanks ^^
[00:46] <bazhang> we still redirecting to #ubuntu+1 ;]
[00:46] <jrwa> alright :)
[00:46] <fdkrew> how long in till this New Release hours ? ? ? ? ? ?
[00:46] <Pelo> jrwa, ,have you tried to finish the upgrade process ?   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:46] <bazhang> Stev1: just update and you will be final too ;]
[00:46] <solace> I love ubuntu cause it's non resource hogging but still eye-candy.
[00:47] <jrwa> Pelo: several times, no success
[00:47] <Simonft> my network connections are not working
[00:47] <Stev1> cool.. that's what I've been doing..
[00:47] <Pelo> bazhang, untill tomorrow  12:00 UTC
[00:47] <Simonft> it is not detecting anything
[00:47] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files.
[00:47] <bazhang> Pelo: already 24th where I am ;]
[00:47] <linkmaster03> How do I change the sound device being used in OSS?
[00:47] <Naib> !repeat | linkmaster03
[00:47] <ubotu> linkmaster03: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:47] <Pelo> bazhang, you know what I mean
[00:47] <solace> Anyone know where I can get a gnome theme that looks like the fake OS from die hard.
[00:48] <solace> It's definantly ubuntu BASED.
[00:48] <Eli__> Anyone have experience with U3 USB drives on Ubuntu?
[00:48] <bazhang> Pelo: indeed I do ;]
[00:48] <Pelo> www.gnome-look.org
[00:48] <warriorforgod> how can i gzip a directory?
[00:48] <twistage> !patience
[00:48] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[00:48] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files.
[00:48] <PovAddict> warriorforgod: you don't
[00:48] <mattywarr> is there any way of viewing my current IP address? From the GUI preferably, but command line would do just as welkl
[00:48] <Pelo> maybe
[00:48] <DiVoRa1> 1325
[00:48] <Stev1> I'm in progress of Rolling all my workstations and servers to Ubuntu
[00:48] <PovAddict> warriorforgod: gzip works on single files
[00:48] <Stev1> Never with Microsoft again
[00:48] <Naib> warriorforgod: you need to tar it first.
[00:48] <kravlin> solace: If you ever find out let me know. that looked pretty good.
[00:48] <PovAddict> warriorforgod: however, you can tar the directory, and gzip the tar :)
[00:48] <Shpook> !hardy
[00:48] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[00:48] <bazhang> mattywarr: ifconfig
[00:48] <Pelo> fdkrew, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:48] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files.
[00:48] <floating> mattywarr: ifconfig shows
[00:48] <timboy> ok so there is some ftp daemon running on my system.. how do I remove it?
[00:48] <Orbixx> Some of my windows aren't resizing.
[00:48] <PovAddict> warriorforgod: tar czvf foobar.tar.gz the/directory/
[00:49] <solace> I love ubuntu so much, I plan to replace all my PC's operating systems with this.
[00:49] <gogeta> Pelo: lies
[00:49] <gogeta> lol
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[00:49] <Pelo> gogeta, not always,  sometimes I tell the truth just to screw with ppl
[00:49] <gogeta> :P
[00:49] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files.
[00:49] <Orbixx> Hey Pelo, resident expert.
[00:49] <Orbixx> Any idea why some of my windows refuse to resize?
[00:49] <Jeriath> UM
[00:49] <twistage> whats ubuntu's network manager called, mine didn't seem to start
[00:50] <solace> Anybody know where a package installer for WINE is??
[00:50] <bazhang> Orbixx: using compiz?
[00:50] <jrwa> nevermind, I've lost the connection and couldn't install the ssh server
[00:50] <solace> Or the terminal code to get it.
[00:50] <Orbixx> bazhang: Yes.
[00:50] <linkmaster03> How do I change the sound device being used in OSS?
[00:50] <Pelo> solace, we apreciate the enthousiasm but this is the support channel , maybe you can hoo and haaa in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files.
[00:50] <Jeriath> can anyone remember offhand what the program is that installs and sets up your xorg.conf automatically
[00:50] <solace> No.
[00:50] <solace> Im not.
[00:50] <solace> Im wondering.
[00:50] <jrwa> "Pelo" is hair in spanish, btw XD
[00:50] <Pelo> solace, sudo apt-get install wine
[00:50] <solace> What the terminal code to DL Wine is.
[00:50] <SeaPhor> I have already replace windows with Ubuntu on not only my personal PC, but my shop PC and my business PC, have been all linux for nearly 2 years now and I'm still a n00b!
[00:50] <solace> Okay.
[00:50] <solace> Thank you.
[00:50] <FloodBot2> solace: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <fdkrew> solace: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:50] <gogeta> Jeriath dpks reconfigure?
[00:50] <Pelo> jrwa, realy ? why hasn'T anyone told me this before ?
[00:50] <gogeta> dpkg
[00:50] <Jeriath> nah
[00:51] <solace> Also, My pigeon keeps crashing on start.
[00:51] <bazhang> easy on the enter key solace
[00:51] <gogeta> err
[00:51] <Jeriath> its some script that someone wrote
[00:51] <Pelo> solace, pidgin
[00:51] <fdkrew> solace: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:51] <Jeriath> finds the driver you need, installs it, and configure xorg
[00:51] <solace> Sorry. But it says "Starting" pidgin" and then crashes.
[00:51] <Jeriath> works ncie since i can never seem to get it to work otherwise :P
[00:51] <linkmaster03> Pelo do you know how to change the sound device being used in OSS?
[00:51] <Orbixx> bazhang: Why do you ask?
[00:51] <Naib> solace: from a terminal?
[00:51] <jrwa> Pelo, I dunno, but I wasn't telling *you* actually ^^
[00:51] <Pelo> solace, how did you install it ?
[00:51] <bazhang> !envy | Jeriath
[00:51] <ubotu> Jeriath: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[00:51] <solace> No.
[00:51] <Jeriath> thanks
[00:51] <fdkrew> solace: sudo apt-get remove pidgen
[00:51] <Jeriath> thats it
[00:51] <solace> It came pre installed.
[00:51] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files. can anyone help?
[00:52] <DiVoRa1> hairy question
[00:52] <Pelo> linkmaster03,  not realy , try researching it in www.ubuntuforums.org , but why are you not using alsa ?
[00:52] <fdkrew> back up xorg.conf when using ENVY please ok
[00:52] <randy_> hey
[00:52] <DiVoRa1> ?
[00:52] <gogeta> :-(
[00:52] <linkmaster03> Didn't work with my intel_hda card
[00:52] <linkmaster03> realtek hd audio btw
[00:52] <bazhang> DiVoRa1: what is the question
[00:52] <Jeriath> fdkrew, ive never had a problem with it
[00:52] <Jeriath> and it does a backup
[00:52] <DiVoRa1> none
[00:52] <fdkrew> me to only once
[00:52] <DiVoRa1> just have fun here
[00:52] <DiVoRa1> heheheheeheh
[00:52] <Pelo> !sound | linkmaster03  this is all I can give you
[00:52] <ubotu> linkmaster03  this is all I can give you: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:52] <fdkrew> but was fixed easy
[00:52] <bazhang> DiVoRa1: wrong channel for that
[00:53] <Lake> hey is there any way to use Wine so that printer drivers meant for Windows work under Linux ?
[00:53] <Mimi> I'm trying to figure out what the alternate cd is for.....
[00:53] <DiVoRa1> ok
[00:53] <SeaPhor> as a former user of Envy, I advise not to use it
[00:53] <fdkrew> its just good to backup just in case
[00:53] <DiVoRa1> got it
[00:53] <Pelo> Lake,  no
[00:53] <kravlin> I'm having problems with samba. I can see the computer but not the files from a windows computer. can anyone help?
[00:53] <Pelo> Lake,  what printer ?
[00:53] <Lake> Pelo: canon mp130
[00:53] <Naib> !repeat | kravlin
[00:53] <ubotu> kravlin: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:53] <Pelo> Lake, just use the listing with the closest number
[00:53] <Pelo> solace, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:54] <bazhang> kravlin: need more info than just repeating that bare bones every few minutes; what have you done to set up samba, what exact errors are you getting and more
[00:54] <solace> Okay.
[00:54] <Pelo> later folks
[00:54] <Lake> Pelo:  you mean the next canon printer that works under Ubuntu ?
[00:54] <Orbixx> bazhang: Fixed. Compiz issue ;)
[00:54] <PovAddict> yea, never PM without asking first
[00:54] <solace> Okay, Terminal keeps saying "lock var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:54] <gogeta> Pelo spreding lies again
[00:54] <gogeta> Pelo ;-)
[00:54] <fdkrew> Kravlin:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[00:54] <fdkrew> Kravlin:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[00:54] <Pelo> Lake,  or the prior,  it's like the unidriver in windows,  one drver covers several models
[00:55] <kravlin> bazhang: I used the GUI. We thought it might be a space in the file name but we removed that and it didn't work.
[00:55] <bazhang> kravlin: read the links that fdkrew gave you
[00:55] <bazhang> cya Pelo
[00:55] <kravlin> bazhang: doing so. Thanks for the help.
[00:55] <solace> Hello, Terminal keeps error'n me.
[00:55] <fdkrew> yea go over them ok
[00:55] <fdkrew> then get back at me
[00:56] <hassan> how can i install XPDE-0.5.0.tar in my ubuntu 7.10?
[00:56] <bazhang> kravlin: thanks to the person taht gave you the links ;]
[00:56] <Lake> Pelo: all right, I shall give it a try !
[00:56] <Simonf1> i cant connect to the internet
[00:56] <Naib> Simonf1: ...
[00:56] <Lake> Pelo: with any luck, samba can work with it too
[00:56] <jhoc2x> good morning guys.. ^_^     when i tried pluging in my flash drive.. i can't see it on desktop..usually it will show itself (the icon)   but now i can't see it.. i look at /var/logs/messages it said that it was detected..
[00:56] <bazhang> Simonf1: what is the problem; that is way too little info
[00:56] <solace> If your here...Your online.
[00:56] <kravlin> fdkrew: thanks!
[00:56] <Simonf1> nothing comes up under network connections
[00:56] <fdkrew> fdkrew: thanks for the links
[00:56] <solace> Problem :  Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:56] <fdkrew> lol
[00:56] <fdkrew> No Problem
[00:56] <Stroganoff> hassan:  read the INSTALL file for general installation instructions!
[00:56] <Simonf1> i click on network manager
[00:57] <bazhang> solace what generates that error
[00:57] <Naib> solace: you prob have update running as well
[00:57] <Simonf1> and it says no network devices have been found
[00:57] <solace> Whenever I try to get an app in terminal.
[00:57] <jhoc2x> good morning guys.. ^_^     when i tried pluging in my flash drive.. i can't see it on desktop..usually it will show itself (the icon)   but now i can't see it.. i look at /var/logs/messages it said that it was detected.. any idea?? maybe i have to mount it manually? or ??
[00:57] <hassan> ok tahnx
[00:57] <Lake> thanks community, you big entity you !
[00:57] <twistage> Does apt-get remove usually remove all traces of an app, or does it leave shit littered all over the file system like windows?
[00:57] <bazhang> solace Naib is right
[00:58] <bazhang> language please twistage
[00:58] <defishguy> jhoc2x:  What ver of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:58] <solace> I try to download an app, or remove one.
[00:58] <ltracy__> Prez00: thanks for the tip on the compat thing
[00:58] <solace> It gives that error.
[00:58] <Simonf1> bazhang: do you have any idea?
[00:58] <stdin> twistage: use --purge to remove all config files
[00:58] <jhoc2x> defishguy: gutsy gibbon
[00:58] <ltracy__> Prez00: I am connected via wireless :) <-- go me
[00:58] <twistage> stdin: thanks
[00:58] <KyleK> hey i guess if i ask a question about hardy i should go into ubuntu+1 unless I wait a day? :)
[00:59] <solace> Anybody know how to fix my problem?
[00:59] <bazhang> Simonf1: you need to give tons more info: please pastebin output of ifconfig and lspci
[00:59] <SeaPhor> stdin, could you give me a full command example of the --purge command?
[00:59] <Simonf1> i cant
[00:59] <Simonf1> im on a diffrent computer
[00:59] <Naib> solace: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock  and you will more then likely see you have the system updater running
[00:59] <defishguy> jhoc2x:  Do you know how to mount the drive using the command line?
[01:00] <stdin> SeaPhor: sudo apt-get --purge remove some-package-name
[01:00] <solace> So, Me updateing is causing that?
[01:00] <Orbixx> There's a folder missing from my Gnome toolbar in "Places". How do I add things to "Places"?
[01:00] <solace> Cause im downloading a package right now..
[01:00] <SeaPhor> stdin, Thank You!
[01:00] <fdkrew> solace: cant have the updater running same time as apt-get
[01:00] <hassan> which version of firefox will be embedded in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[01:01] <solace> Oh...
[01:01] <solace> Lol.
[01:01] <fdkrew> solace: only one thing at a time
[01:01] <solace> Thank you.
[01:01] <solace> Okay, sorry.
[01:01] <one_tao> screen -d
[01:01] <fdkrew> solace: did u get my private msg?
[01:01] <solace> Nothing.
[01:01] <one_tao> oops
[01:02] <solace> Is there any way to disable the requirement of a password for any admin activity?
[01:02] <solace> It's annoying me like vista.
[01:02] <fdkrew> solace: i forgot i have to register my nick brb
[01:03] <Naib> solace: chance the /etc/sudoers file
[01:03] <solace> How do I go about doing that?
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[01:03] <Naib> sudo vim /etc/sudoers
[01:04] <twistage> This isn't a big deal, but is there a fix to allow you to use volume control or hot keys while having a drop down menu open?
[01:04] <solace> Sorry, Im new to linux, fresh install yesterday.
[01:04] <Starnestommy> or sudo visudo
[01:04] <Simonf1> bazhang: ok, i got it
[01:04] <Simonf1> how do i show it to you?
[01:05] <hassan> does ubuntu 8.04 support razorfs
[01:05] <Simonf1> my network connections are not workin
[01:05] <Orbixx> How would I add an NTFS disk to fstab?
[01:05] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:05] <Naib> Orbixx: devised hoodwinks AutoMatriX ro,umask=0,user,NSF 0 0
[01:05] <Simonf1> thanks
[01:06] <solace> Are there any other good OS's other then ubuntu that nobody's ever heard of?
[01:06] <flamedryad> hi
[01:06] <Naib> solace: plan9
[01:06] <solace> Preferably using linux.
[01:06] <solace> Okay.
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[01:06] <rsk> solace: windows
[01:06] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, then when done, paste a link to that paste back here
[01:06] <Simonf1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64160/
[01:06] <solace> Haha, Windows..
[01:06] <flamedryad> can ya'll help ubuntu won't mount my external HD
[01:07] <Seven_Six_Two> solace, Haiku
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[01:07] <flamedryad> i pluged into windows one time and now it wont mount
[01:07] <solace> K, Thank you.
[01:07] <erat123> UBUNTU HARDY IS COMING OUT TOMORROW!!  WOOP!
[01:08] <mvinsc> hello
[01:08] <SeaPhor> There it IS!
[01:08] <mvinsc> can someone help with webcam support?
[01:08] <Simonf1> hey
[01:08] <amenado> flamedryad-> what did you do with it when it was plugged in to windows?
[01:08] <Simonf1> lol
[01:08] <solace> I wish mac OS X was easy to install on a PC.
[01:09] <elisboa> mvinsc: just say your doubt and someone will help you, if he/she knows
[01:09] <flamedryad> just copyied file to the windows system
[01:09] <icesword> solace, how,
[01:09] <elisboa> solace: that's why they call it a hackintosh
[01:09] <elhoir> hello
[01:09] <fdkrew> try to install mac on vmware
[01:09] <solace> haha
[01:09] <elhoir> i have some programs in 7.10 that arent in the 8.04 repository
[01:09] <elhoir> will they run when upgrading to 8.04?
[01:10] <fdkrew> they should
[01:10] <mvinsc> ok. my cam works with cheese, but the webcam monitor says no device found
[01:10] <elisboa> elhoir: yes, sure they will
[01:10] <Simonf1> SeaPhor: anything?
[01:10] <solace> OSX is ALMOST impossible to get on a PC, It's possible, But extremely difficult.
[01:10] <flamedryad> linux says i can force it to mount but i don't know how
[01:10] <elhoir> ok thanks elisboa fdkrew
[01:10] <elisboa> elhoir: dist-upgrade will only install available packages, without removing others
[01:10] <elisboa> others that are not available in the "new" repository
[01:11] <itaku> when hardy comes out in a few hours how do i update to it? do i have to use the cd?
[01:11] <hassan> thanx guys
[01:11] <solace> My friend nolen said hacking was easy with linux.
[01:11] <Simonf1> itaku: go to update
[01:11] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, sorry, bazhang was asking you to paste, i saw you ask how and let you know how to paste, ask bazhang
[01:11] <hassan> i will quit for now
[01:11] <Blue89> flamedryad, --force as an option to mount, I beleive
[01:11] <Simonf1> oh
[01:11] <itaku> Simonf1: whers that?
[01:11] <Simonf1> ok
[01:11] <elhoir> elisboa: for example, i have installed Lives, which is not in the 8.04 official repository
[01:11] <david_> torrents? can you actually dl a CD that way? how many years does that take?
[01:11] <elisboa> I don't know Lives
[01:11] <elisboa> what is this, elhoir ?
[01:11] <icesword> where is isle of man
[01:11] <Simonf1> itaku: system, update manager
[01:12] <elhoir> elisboa: it is a video editor, from getdeb
[01:12] <KyleK> david_: you can torrent anything these days
[01:12] <flamedryad> otay b;ue but how do i do that
[01:12] <elisboa> hmm, nice
[01:12] <elisboa> just like kailera
[01:12] <icesword> !hardy
[01:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[01:12] <elisboa> oops, kdenlive
[01:12] <flamedryad> Blue89 otay but how do i do that
[01:12] <elhoir> elisboa: yes, but kdenlive is so buggy yet, so i tried another editor
[01:12] <Simonf1> can someone else help me with the network problem?
[01:12] <Blue89> flamedryad, I don't want to steer you the wrong way, let me make sure I have the right number of dashes
[01:13] <cabrioleur> solace, it is illegal to install MacOS X on anything except official apple computers (with exception of server)
[01:13] <elisboa> Simonf1: just say what is your problem. If someone knows, you will be answered
[01:13] <elhoir> and lives is extremely slow
[01:13] <david_> hello?
[01:13] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, bahzang asked you to paste the outputs, ask bahzang
[01:13] <Simonf1> ok
[01:13] <elisboa> david_: is there anybody in there?
[01:14] <Zackymc_k> Does anyone know how to get the tx1000's wifi working on 64bit ubuntu?
[01:14] <solace> I know.
[01:14] <flamedryad> Blue89 ok
[01:14] <Simonf1> he is no longer on
[01:14] <Simonf1> i checked the user list
[01:15] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, bazhang asked you to paste the outputs, ask bazhang, sorry bazhang, i mis-spelled your name
[01:15] <Zackymc_k> solace: was that to me?
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[01:15] <solace> No.
[01:15] <Welshy> I have an IBM thinkpad x20; do you think it will be able to run ubuntu?
[01:15] <Simonf1> oh
[01:15] <Simonf1> ok
[01:15] <Simonf1> i see
[01:15] <solace> Does anybody know the app get code for pidgin?
[01:15] <Seven_Six_Two> Welshy, probably
[01:16] <Welshy> Well, I've tried it before and it just hung on the loading screen the entire night.
[01:16] <R3D3Y3> Greetings.
[01:16] <itaku> is there a hardy change log?
[01:16] <twistage> solace:  sudo apt-get install pidgin
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[01:16] <itaku> solace: sudo apt-get source pidgin
[01:16] <itaku> not install
[01:16] <Blue89> flamedryad, I can't find the docs for thus specific option, but I recall it being done like this: sudo mount /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever --force
[01:17] <Blue89> what are you trying to mount?
[01:17] <flamedryad> Blue89 my external HD
[01:17] <rectec794613> i need some help with my desktop effects
[01:17] <mvinsc> camorama give me an error. could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[01:17] <twistage> Why does Conky close when I click on it?
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[01:18] <BubbleTea> How i clear my music banshee music player list in library
[01:18] <Simonf1> bazhang does not seem to still be on, could anybody else take a look and see if they can find the problem?
[01:18] <Blue89> I wish you guys could tell me exactly when the 8.04 discs come out...
[01:19] <Starnestommy> Blue89: sometime tomorrow.  There is no exact time
[01:19] <Blue89> I noticed in the title, that's my point
[01:19] <Starnestommy> (or today, depending on your time zone)
[01:19] <BubbleTea> Blue89 patient.
[01:19] <icesword> gmt =*
[01:19] <icesword> gmt+８
[01:19] <XFLXFLXFL> Hello, I just purchased a new Linksys wireless G PCI card and installed it onto my machine and it seems Ubuntu wont recognize it.. how can I install drivers for it?
[01:19] <Scunizi> Blue89: problem is everyone and their brother/sister will be downloading at the same time.
[01:20] <BubbleTea> Anyone know how to clear Banshee Music player library
[01:20] <ScottLij> That's why they made torrents
[01:20] <Blue89> ah, I never thought about that
[01:20] <mvinsc> how can i check my connection with a built-in web cam?
[01:20] <rectec794613> Any help?
[01:20] <flamedryad> T.T
[01:21] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, re-post the pastebin link, and type it like so:    bazhang: <pastebin link>   without the <>
[01:21] <Simonf1> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64160/
[01:21] <twistage> XFLXFLXFL: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-618759.html
[01:21] <oripi> mwinsc > pastebin the output of lsusb
[01:21] <Simonf1> i tried to contact him privatly too
[01:21] <rectec794613> I decided to take a break from ubuntu and when i logged back on the desktop effects weren't on. I tried the SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz command and the compiz command in the terminal. None worked :(
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[01:21] <rectec794613> Any help?
[01:21] <BubbleTea> Anyone?
[01:21] <Welshy> Has anybody had a computer so old that when trying to install ubuntu it hung on the loading screen?
[01:22] <SeaPhor> Simonf1, dont do that, they dont like uninvited PM's
[01:22] <rectec794613> :(
[01:22] <rectec794613> Help Plz
[01:22] <bazhang> Simonf1: that would be the broadcom one; have you a open wifi hotspot to test on?
[01:22] <crdlb> rectec794613: please join #compiz-fusion
[01:22] <Simonf1> yes
[01:22] <mvinsc> 04f2:b016 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[01:23] <bazhang> Simonf1: what does sudo dhclient eth1 return
[01:23] <rectec794613> yes, Welshy. I upgraded the RAM and it loaded fine.
[01:23] <mattywarr> does anyone have a sample file which embeds nx web companion? I'd like to install it to me web directory but have no idea how to do it! The instructions arent very clear
[01:23] <BUrette> #ftpd
[01:23] <`Havoc> Anyone know of a good write up on configuring Bind on Ubuntu for the purpose of setting up VHosts?
[01:23] <malocite> I have a really weird problem, when I CTRL ALT F1 or f2 or whatever, I get OUT OF RANGE, and cannot use a straight text mode, any ideas why?
[01:24] <Nith> malocite: actually I've got the exact same issue
[01:25] <oripi> mvinsc > pastebin the output of lsusb (for your webcam)
[01:25] <malocite> Nith: And... do you have a solution yet?
[01:25] <Simonf1> oh
[01:25] <Simonf1> lol
[01:25] <Simonf1> it is working
[01:25] <Simonf1> that is strange
[01:25] <FloodBot2> Simonf1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:25] <bazhang> Welshy: sure, but there may be other factors
[01:25] <flamedryad> Blue89 it ain't working
[01:25] <Simonf1> it says it is not
[01:25] <bazhang> Simonf1: try to ping google
[01:25] <mvinsc> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04f2:b016 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[01:25] <mvinsc> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:25] <mvinsc> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:25] <mvinsc> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:25] <mvinsc> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[01:25] <Welshy> bazhang: What other factors are there?
[01:25] <Simonf1> it works
[01:25] <elisboa> fllod bots, help
[01:25] <bazhang> congrats Simonf1
[01:25] <bbyever> at what time is hardy released?
[01:25] <Simonf1> it says it does not and i have no idea why
[01:25] <Simonf1> lol
[01:25] <Welshy> bazhang: may I pm you?
[01:25] <bazhang> Welshy: sometimes the video or other stuff; might try boot params acpi=off
[01:25] <malocite> Nith: Or even know what that is called for googling purposes?
[01:25] <bazhang> Welshy: best to do it in channel for others benefit as well
[01:25] <Nith> malocite: ctrl+alt+f<key> are the tty's
[01:25] <Welshy> Alright, sounds good. Give me a few minutes then.
[01:26] <malocite> Nith: Yeah, but why don't they work :)
[01:26] <BubbleTea> Anyone know how to clear Banshee Music player library ??
[01:26] <bazhang> Welshy: also remove quiet so that you can see the errors instead of gui loading
[01:26] <Nith> malocite: mine went when I did an dpkg-reconfigure on xserver-xorg
[01:26] <steve__> hey does anyone know the exact time 8.04 is release because i want to know wheather or not i should sleep or stay up until it is realesed
[01:26] <Nith> malocite: when did it start for you?
[01:26] <sniker> steve__: Take a look at the topic
[01:26] <steve__> ?
[01:26] <malocite> Nith: Doing it on TWO computers actually, started about a month ago maybe?
[01:26] <bazhang> steve__: utc 12 midnight
[01:27] <sniker> steve__: "No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released."
[01:27] <steve__> thanks
[01:27] <Nith> malocite: what happened before the problem?
[01:27] <malocite> Nith: Nothing... I haven't had any issues with either machine
[01:27] <Nith> hmm
[01:27] <malocite> Nith: It must have been an update of some kind... all I can think of
[01:27] <Nith> me too
[01:27] <Nith> in fact it fits perfectly that it was an update
[01:28] <bazhang> why the hoohaws about the release time? just update your rc/beta and get the final first ;]
[01:28] <prometeo> hi
[01:28] <gigabyte> Hi all!
[01:29] <bazhang> @time
[01:29] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: April 24 2008, 00:29:00 - Next meeting: Server Team in 6 days
[01:29] <gigabyte> Whats up with ubuntu?
[01:29] <bazhang> hardy talk is okay in here now?
[01:30] <bazhang> gigabyte: read the /topic ;]
[01:30] <flamedryad> any body else able to help
[01:30] <Blue89> flamedryad, are you registered on freenode?
[01:30] <jhoc2x> hey guys im back.. guess im disconnected again huh.. ^_6   anyway, back to my problem.. i can't access my flashdrive though it is detected at /var/logs   any idea?
[01:31] <flamedryad> Blue89 i don't think so
[01:31] <Welshy> I can't decided whether I want server or desktop edition of ubuntu.
[01:31] <Welshy> **decode
[01:31] <Welshy> **decide
[01:31] <bazhang> jhoc2x: what format is it? something strange like ntfs?
[01:31] <Welshy> wow
[01:31] <XFLXFLXFL> Installing the linksys card with instructions from http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-618759.html didnt work
[01:31] <XFLXFLXFL> wrong firmware?? what do I do?
[01:31] <XFLXFLXFL> Linksys wireless G pic.  WMP54G
[01:32] <XFLXFLXFL> pic=pci
[01:32] <Blue89> I find it difficult to read what you write in such a crouded channel... can you come to #bitbucket for a minute?
[01:32] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: need more info; what exact errors, what steps failed etc
[01:32] <Comrade-Sergei> my sound will not work in wine, it works in anything else
[01:32] <XFLXFLXFL> it said it had to fetch firmware.. and its not possible, cause no internet connection.. which is what I am trying to get by installing this PCI wireless card
[01:32] <urthmover> I'm really liking this Dell M6300 on my desk here
[01:33] <urthmover> ubuntu flies on it
[01:33] <friel_> urge to troll rising.
[01:33] <bazhang> Welshy: will you be using it as a server? but you want gui? can go either way then really
[01:33] <jhoc2x> bazhang: i guess my flashdrive is still on FAT32 .. (actually it's not mine.. )
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> and can i reformat a drive from ntfs to ext3 without losing the data?
[01:34] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: uh you are on here; why not get it and transfer it over via usbkey?
[01:34] <Blue89> flamedryad, I am not sure what your problem is. I must have missed something
[01:34] <tseug> my battery is critically low, 36%.  how can i fix this?
[01:34] <bazhang> Comrade-Sergei: no
[01:34] <confuzed> anyone here know why I can't get AC3 passed through my soundcard in hardy... I've tried two of them and neither works.  DTS works fine however
[01:34] <sniker> Comrade-Sergei: Not without losing data, no
[01:34] <Welshy> bazhang: I don't know, I think I might use it as a seedbox. I don't know if I want GUI or not... It's a tough decision.
[01:34] <backtick> Comrade-Sergei: wineconfig
[01:34] <jhoc2x> bazhang: it's a clone ipod  ...>>>i don;t know where the hell my friend got it.. ^_^
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, winecfg you mean?
[01:34] <twistage> tseug: plug it in
[01:35] <jhoc2x> bazhang: he just want to copy some files.
[01:35] <backtick> Comrade-Sergei: and -config too
[01:35] <Welshy> The only thing is, I don't have e very fast connection so creating a seedbox may not be worth it.
[01:35] <backtick> it's a Qt-based config GUI
[01:35] <tifine> hello
[01:35] <absnt> Hey looking for some help, just installed Hardy 54b RC and trying to get sound to work, I know the XFi doesn't work with hardy so i installed OSS and now its not detecting any of my sound (card & onboard)
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, and? i use the OSS and still nothing
[01:36] <cgentry72> i'm wanting to place the recycle bin on my desktop, is that possible?
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, it seems to do this to me everytime , no matter the computer
[01:36] <bazhang> !trash
[01:36] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (GNOME) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[01:36] <jhoc2x> by the way, anyone using mythTV here???
[01:36] <bazhang> see above cgentry72
[01:36] <tifine> i installed oracle and remove it by giving the command "apt-get remove oracle", still there are some files left in the system how should i remove those as well
[01:36] <cgentry72> bazhang, thanks
[01:37] <Nith> tifine: try purging instead of removing
[01:37] <cgentry72> bazhang, everyone is always so helpful here :)
[01:37] <solace> Kdrew??
[01:37] <jhoc2x> chemisus: that's what ubuntu is
[01:37] <tifine> Nith, purging can you please pass me the command for that ?
[01:37] <fdkrew> solace i think we lost connection
[01:37] <backtick> Comrade-Sergei: ALSA and OSS drivers are ticked in mine
[01:37] <jhoc2x> !mythTV
[01:37] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[01:37] <solace> No, I was an idiot and exited IRC
[01:38] <Nith> tifine: sudo aptitude purge oracle
[01:38] <bazhang> jhoc2x: not sure, those usb players may or may not require mp3 software to sync, mine you just need to drag files on to it
[01:38] <absnt> Can anyone help me get my sound working in Hardy (64bit)
[01:38] <Comrade-Sergei> its a dv9000 backtick
[01:38] <Nith> tifine: or sudo apt-get purge oracle I tink
[01:38]  * Nith uses aptitude
[01:38] <cgentry72> bazhang, OMG that was so easy
[01:38] <XFLXFLXFL> so there are no drivers for a linksys WMP54G PCI card?
[01:38] <Welshy> Would it make sense to have an old laptop run as a seedbox on my home network, or no?
[01:38] <jhoc2x> bazhang: yesterday i did.. drag and drop... ^_^  after restart, i can't see the drive..
[01:39] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: what is the chipset, nevermind the brand name
[01:39] <bazhang> Welshy: up to you but kinda offtopic here
[01:39] <XFLXFLXFL> Um how do I find that out??
[01:39] <XFLXFLXFL> sorry <-- total newbie
[01:40] <kindofabuzz> anyone know how to turn off join/leave messages in kvirc?
[01:40] <XFLXFLXFL> Cisco system Ver. 4.51
[01:40] <zero__> how do i install rocketdock?
[01:40] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: you talking to me? use my nick (type baz then hit tab) and I can follow more easily
[01:40] <bazhang> zero__: no idea what is it
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[01:40] <zero__> does anyone know how to get RocketDock?
[01:40] <absnt> Can anyone help me get my sound working in Hardy (64bit)
[01:40] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang Yes
[01:41] <bazhang> zero__: unless you provide more info then no
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[01:41] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang Where do I find out the chipset?
[01:41] <zero__> bazhang you have NO Idea what rocketdock is?
[01:41] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: what does lspci show (if pci card)
[01:41] <bazhang> zero__: unless you tell us no
[01:41] <twistage> XFLXFLXFL: You can get the firmware by going to a terminal and typing "lspci"
[01:41] <Nith> zero__: rocketdock is not in the repositories
[01:41] <mvinsc> does anyone know how i can get air crack/ air snort with a Broadcom Corporation BCM4310 USB Controller
[01:42] <twistage> ehh to late
[01:42] <zero__> bazhang rocket dock is something similar to AWN that doesnt suck
[01:42] <friel_> i've got a partition mounted,
[01:42] <bazhang> zero__: well what does ubuntu gutsy rocketdock show
[01:42] <zero__> im on Hardy
[01:42] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang Doesnt list it.. shows everything but my linksys card
[01:43] <friel_> and trying to save some torrents to it, transmission gives me an error about not having permissions, how do i get around this?
[01:43] <kindofabuzz> anyone know how to turn off join/leave messages in kvirc?
[01:43] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: what about lsusb for a usb card then
[01:43] <Comrade-Sergei> !paste
[01:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[01:43] <bazhang> friel_: what is the drive? ntfs or other
[01:43] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang what do you mean a usbcard?
[01:43] <friel_> bazhang etc3?
[01:43] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: external usb plug in thing
[01:44] <bazhang> friel_: it is ext3?
[01:44] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, heres the error i get     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64165/
[01:44] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang that mean I gota go buy somthing else? lol.. I just got this card like 2 months ago lol
[01:44] <gaspipe1> hello people
[01:44] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang I think I might need to go back to windows lol
[01:44] <BUrette_> looking for help with vsftpd?
[01:44] <friel_> bazhang: that's the one, still new to this
[01:44] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: your choice really
[01:45] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, some internal devices also use a USB bus, even in windows
[01:45] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang I want to use ubuntu but I only have an option for wireless internet
[01:45] <BUrette_> looking for help with vsftpd?
[01:45] <XFLXFLXFL> oh ok
[01:45] <gaspipe1> i was wondering if anyone knows where to go regarding using ubuntu for my iphone (regarding updates; sync music, movies, contacts and bookmarks?)
[01:45] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang lsusb shows nothing
[01:45] <lwizardl> how do i create multipart rars in terminal?
[01:46] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: well you need to give us the chipset before we can proceed; mentioning going back to windows is not a motivator for people *volunteering* to help you
[01:46] <XFLXFLXFL> lol
[01:46] <XFLXFLXFL> sorry <-- frustration
[01:46] <XFLXFLXFL> bazhang well how else may I look up the chipset?
[01:46] <BUrette_> looking for help with vsftpd?
[01:46] <Comrade-Sergei> someone take a look at this error, I have no sound in wine     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64165/
[01:46] <backtick> Comrade-Sergei: seems the app is trying to acess hardware directly bypassing API
[01:46] <BUrette_> looking for help with vsftpd?
[01:46] <Nith> XFLXFLXFL: what type of a card is it?
[01:46] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: please paste output of ifconfig and lspci to pastebin
[01:46] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, ah
[01:46] <Light-> Does Wine work better if you allow it to use Microsofts DLL's?
[01:47] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, so how do i fix it
[01:47] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, the chipset will be on the physical card itself , and on the package it came in
[01:47] <lwizardl> i'm trying to remember the command for making multiple rars (.001, .002. etc) in like 50mb chunks without recompression
[01:47] <nohelphere> where does tcl.so install to?
[01:48] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, example, mine is "rtl8185"
[01:48] <nohelphere> !tcl
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <friel_> bazhang: sorry to ask again, but do you have any suggestions for me?
[01:48] <backtick> Comrade-Sergei: i don't think it can be done..
[01:48] <XFLXFLXFL> Let me pry it out of my machine holdup
[01:48] <Starnestommy> nohelphere: I think it;s /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0 or /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so
[01:48] <cirkit> When I play video with Totem, VLC, Xine, etc I have a slight blue tint in the video. Mplayer is fine though. Any ideas?
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[01:48] <bazhang> friel_: permissions on a ext3 drive? you sure it is that fs?
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[01:48] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, i think ive done it before
[01:48] <twistage> Is there a way to search the file system under terminal?
[01:49] <Nith> twistage: 'find' and 'locate'
[01:49] <twistage> Nith: thanks
[01:49] <Nith> twistage: i think locate only looks in the path though, find lets you specify the location
[01:50] <friel_> bazhang: checked again, it's EXT2, should i reformat to EXT3?
[01:50] <bazhang> XFLXFLXFL: that is a pcmcia card? best not to hotplug those--could damage your motherboard
[01:50] <Welshy> My ubuntu isntall went past the loading screen, did a bunch of test based checks displaying [Ok] by most, and now it goes to a black screen and hangs.
[01:50] <bazhang> friel_: if you wish, but why the permissions issues? have you been using nautilus as root or somesuch?
[01:50] <XFLXFLXFL> seaPhor where on the card does it show the cipset?
[01:50] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, fl studio isnt even recognizine my sound card , know it used to
[01:51] <Nith> Welshy: while hanging, if you hit CTRL+ALT_F1, do you get to the tty's?
[01:51] <kindofabuzz> anyone know how to turn off join/leave messages in kvirc?
[01:51] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, desktop or laptop machine?
[01:51] <whazilla> !topic
[01:51] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[01:51] <XFLXFLXFL> desktop
[01:51] <twistage> What would /home/usr/.kde/blah/blah be referring to? Whats the significance of the period?
[01:51] <XFLXFLXFL> seaPhor I just pulled the card out
[01:51] <kupesoft> What time of day is 8.04 LTS going to be released?
[01:51] <kindofabuzz> period mean hidden
[01:51] <Nith> twistage: the '.' indicates hidden files in linux
[01:51] <friel_> Bazhang: been using the default file browser in 7.10, Transmission states "Error: insufficient permissions" when i chose to save to that partition.
[01:51] <Siph0n> kupesoft, there is no set time
[01:51] <bazhang> Welshy: this is the livecd? did you check md5sum for that iso? what burn speed did you use. also do a diskcheck on the cd itself
[01:52] <sniker> kupesoft: Check topic
[01:52] <twistage> Ahh okay.
[01:52] <Nith> twistage: generally, ~/ contains lots of them and their settings for programs you use
[01:52] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, so it is a PCI device, fits in a (usually black) slot?
[01:52] <kupesoft> sniker: silly me :(
[01:52] <Welshy> This is the livecd; and this is a disc that I recieved in the mail that I requested from the website.
[01:52] <bazhang> friel_: is the drive in your fstab?
[01:52] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhor yeah fits into a white pci slot
[01:52] <Nith> Welshy: did you try the CTRL+ALT+F1 as I suggested?
[01:53] <bazhang> kupesoft: read the topic
[01:53] <BubbleTea> 1 more day 8.04
[01:53] <Welshy> Indeed I did, nothing happened.
[01:53] <friel_> bazhang: not to sure what you mean by fstab, i have to mount it in the file manager to gain access if that means anything?
[01:53] <kupesoft> bazhang: Just did, :(
[01:53] <jaymacdonald> 8.04 with DualCore Active Processings Supports?
[01:53] <jason_>  what aree tty's?
[01:53] <bazhang> !fstab
[01:53] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:53] <TangentEmergency> I need to delete an account and it's logged on
[01:53] <TangentEmergency> someone hacked the account and I cannot delete it
[01:53] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, look on the chips . may need a magnifier, but should be a chipset on one of the soldered on chips
[01:53] <bazhang> see the message from ubotu above friel_
[01:54] <twistage> Is there any reason why .kde/share/apps/amarok would still exist after using apt-get remove?
[01:54] <backtick> Comrade-Sergei: try the lastest snapshot version of wine, they might have a workaround
[01:54] <Nith> jason_: their terminals that you can use at any time by going to CTRL+ALT+F<key> 1-6 are text terminals, 7 is generally your x server (what you're used to)
[01:54] <Cahan> twistage, apt-get remove doesn't delete config files
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[01:54] <friel_> bazhang: yes, reading it now, guessing editing the fstab correctly will fix the issue?
[01:54] <Nith> twistage: use purge instead of remove to get rid of config files
[01:54] <twistage> Cahan: I tried purge and it must not have worked either
[01:54] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhore linksys has them covered oversolid
[01:54] <TangentEmergency> :P
[01:54] <jason_> oh ok i got it thanks nith
[01:55] <Nith> np
[01:55] <Welshy> Nith: I hit ctrl+alt+f1, nothing happened.
[01:55] <Comrade-Sergei> backtick, i can try
[01:55] <tarkus> what are some reasons to use linux as a desktop OS as opposed to MacOS?
[01:55] <Welshy> It's a really old laptop, it might not be able to handle Ubuntu.
[01:55] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, any paper-glued labels?
[01:55] <TangentEmergency> tarkus, it's free
[01:55] <bazhang> friel_: worth a shot; why ext2 and not ext3? ext3 is generally considered better unless you have a ton of power outages where you are
[01:55] <Cahan> tarkus, you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for a Mac
[01:55] <tarkus> i mean, i use ubuntu myself.. but i still dont really know why..
[01:55] <jason_> mac suck tarkus imo
[01:55] <bazhang> tarkus: offtopic here thanks
[01:55] <TangentEmergency> how do I delete an account that someone is logged into?
[01:55] <Nith> Welshy: you said it doesn't get to the log in screen?
[01:55] <jason_> i love ubuntu as a desktop pc
[01:56] <twistage> Nith: Do you use purge in addition to remove or just purge
[01:56] <tarkus> jason_: same with me
[01:56] <Welshy> Nith: Nope. It's the LiveCD.
[01:56] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhore only ID# and Serial # thats it which are stickers on the metal covering
[01:56] <tarkus> but i cant explaine to people why i use it... i mean lets say money isnt an object..
[01:56] <Nith> twistage: sudo apt-get remove <software>
[01:56] <jiphex> Hi, can someone help me with a (hopefully quick) World of Warcraft under Wine problem
[01:56] <Nith> twistage: sudo apt-get purge <software>
[01:56] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, and look in open spots on the board, typed onto the board?
[01:56] <Nith> twistage: sorry, brain fart
[01:56] <Nith> Welshy: sorry, i've no clue
[01:56] <Cahan> jiphex, don't ask to ask, just ask : )
[01:56] <jason_> tarkus: stability afordability and customization
[01:56] <Welshy> Nith: No worries.
[01:56] <TangentEmergency> jiphex: if you stop playing WoW, you can save enough money to get windows
[01:57] <TangentEmergency> :D
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[01:57] <marcos_> how many houres to ubuntu 8.04 final?
[01:57] <jiphex> heh sorry, It's installed, starts fine but there's no login prompt, just a picture of the portal thingy
[01:57] <friel_> bazhang: though EXT was the right one when i formated, no data on that HD yet, so no issue to fix that. Cheers and thanks for your help :  )
[01:57] <bazhang> topic marcos_
[01:57] <tarkus> jason_: those arent really reasons for desktop use..
[01:57] <U9527> wow wow wow
[01:57] <friel_> EXT2*
[01:57] <TangentEmergency> but seriously
[01:57] <jiphex> probably out of the scope for this channel :)
[01:57] <BHSPitMonkey> tarkus, because I like it?
[01:57] <TangentEmergency> I need help here, it should be pretty simple
[01:57] <U9527> bazhang, when
[01:58] <JPSman> Hiya - I'm trying to install rt2x00 wireless drivers into this new hardy kernel
[01:58] <bazhang> I'm going on strike until the OffTopic ceases
[01:58] <Cahan> jiphex, did you add set gxapi "opengl" to the config.wtf file?
[01:58] <jason_> tarkus:  customization is my main point
[01:58] <JPSman> can anyone help with driver creation and installation?
[01:58] <TangentEmergency> I have a hacker in my system that I do not want in my system, how do I remove them?
[01:58] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhor its covered solid.. nothing on the back either except solider points
[01:58] <BHSPitMonkey> Anyway, this isn't a meta-discussion channel, it's a support channel.  Visit #ubuntu-offtopic for that kind of chat.
[01:58] <jiphex> Cahan: when i do that, the graphics get all screwed, like there's noise everywhere and my mouse leaves a big black streak
[01:58] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, whats the model and s/n?
[01:58] <Starnestommy> TangentEmergency: that depends on how they got in
[01:58] <tarkus> BHSPitMonkey: again... so do i, but thats not a reason... common
[01:58] <Cahan> jiphex, what GPU do you have?
[01:58] <BHSPitMonkey> TangentEmergency, kill any processes belonging to them and delete the user?
[01:58] <jiphex> Cahan: ATI Radeon 9800 pro
[01:59] <ballout-jack> I'm trying to make two new partitions one for /home and one for /media (for a mythtv setup).    Could someone tell me if this url is good..........     http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[01:59] <Jeriath> so....is there anyway to rerun a distribution update
[01:59] <TangentEmergency> Starnestommy: they got a hold of the password somehow and are constantly logged on
[01:59] <jiphex> Cahan: in BigDesktop dual monitor mode
[01:59] <Cahan> jiphex, what driver set? fglrx?
[01:59] <jiphex> yeah
[01:59] <Nith> TangentEmergency: killall -u <username>
[01:59] <Cahan> jiphex, I don't know then, I only got it running using OpenGL on my X700, sorry : /
[01:59] <Nith> TangentEmergency: alternatively, pull the cord
[01:59] <jiphex> heh k thanks
[01:59] <TangentEmergency> thank you
[01:59] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhore MOdel # WMP54G Serial# MDI307812726
[02:00] <Starnestommy> TangentEmergency: change thr password with passwd and kill any processes that they started.  If it's root, lock the password with sudo passwd -l root
[02:00] <TangentEmergency> that helps a lot, Nith
[02:00] <friel_> !partitions
[02:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:00] <TangentEmergency> I just wanted to delete the account altogether
[02:00] <TangentEmergency> so, killall worked
[02:00] <Nith> TangentEmergency: if they created the account, they can create another
[02:00] <TangentEmergency> they didn't create it
[02:00] <Starnestommy> TangentEmergency: now delete it with userdel (if it's not root)
[02:00] <dpn`> hey - anyone using FF3b4? i unzipped it into my home dir, but the installer for flash doesn't work
[02:00] <TangentEmergency> I created it, but they got a hold of it
[02:01] <TangentEmergency> it was a security oversight on my part
[02:01] <TangentEmergency> really big oversight
[02:01] <TangentEmergency> don't ask what it was
[02:01] <TangentEmergency> I'm embarrassed as hell about it
[02:01] <friel_> tangentemergency: what was it?
[02:01]  * TangentEmergency murders friel_ 
[02:01] <jiphex> TangentEmergency: you can't tease like that ;)
[02:01] <Nith> I'm sorry guys but if you don't need help, please continue in the offtopic channel
[02:01] <Nith> !offtopic
[02:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:02] <Fr34k`> hi
[02:02] <Nith> hi
[02:02] <ballout-jack> friel_,  I guessing that !partitions bot call was for me?
[02:02] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, look here  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79742.html
[02:02] <friel_> ballout-jack: ?
[02:02] <TangentEmergency> well, if you must know
[02:03] <cokolina> whats the word on wifi slax and ipw3945
[02:03] <Jester54> can you install grub to just the mbr or does it need a filesystem along with it
[02:03] <ballout-jack> !fstab
[02:03] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:03] <JPSman> Would it be bad to run kernel 2.6.22-14 with hardy?
[02:03] <JPSman> does anyone know?
[02:03] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, no, old link sorry, 1 sec
[02:03] <lekremyelsew> JPSman: what?
[02:03] <TangentEmergency> I made an account named "ubuntu" and password of "ubuntu" with limited rights so a friend could log on and send me a file via ftp
[02:03] <TangentEmergency> forgot to delete it
[02:04] <ballout-jack> !DiskMounter
[02:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[02:04] <TangentEmergency> forgot that ssh could access it
[02:04] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhore ok
[02:04] <jhoc2x> again.. jezzz.. i was disconnected.. ^_^
[02:04] <JPSman> lekremyelsew: is it bad to run the gutsy kernel with hardy?
[02:04] <lekremyelsew> no clue
[02:04] <jhoc2x> !flashdrive
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashdrive - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <jhoc2x> !mount
[02:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in !GNOME under !Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For !Edgy and later, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:04] <Nith> bazhang: I think i'm going to join you with striking until the offtopic chatter has stopped
[02:04] <rjonesx> what is the estimated time of relese for tmr?
[02:04] <rjonesx> anyone know?
[02:04] <dubby> hey anyone, I have a program that i wish to run as root but i want it in my main menu as an icon, so lets say i want to run wireshark as root, i know i can go to terminal and just do sudo wireshark, but how would i make an icon that does similar then asks for password
[02:05] <jhoc2x> !diskmounter
[02:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[02:05] <lekremyelsew> JPSman: the new ubuntu is commin out tomorrow, u might want to upgrade
[02:05] <elisboa> dubby: gksu wireshark
[02:05] <Nith> dubby: use gksudo <command> as the command for said icon
[02:05] <dubby> gksu
[02:05] <dubby> thnx
[02:05]  * Nith dissappears
[02:05] <bazhang> Nith: give them a few minutes ;] then it will cease
[02:05] <dubby> i knew i had used it be4 just couldn't remember
[02:05] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, have you checked the restricted drivers?
[02:05] <elisboa> gksu already does the work
[02:05] <JPSman> lekremyelsew: I already have and the new kernel runs my wireless like crap
[02:05] <jaymacdonald> !umount
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <jaymacdonald> wow
[02:05] <TangentEmergency> on the other side of my questioning
[02:05] <jaymacdonald> crap bot
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[02:05] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhore yes only my Nvidia card is shown in it
[02:05] <elisboa> JPSman: you have 2 options: native Linux driver and windows driver emulation via ndiswrapper
[02:06] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, k
[02:06] <lekremyelsew> JPSman: i have no friggin clue
[02:06] <TangentCollision> how do I add an FTP-only account?
[02:06] <lekremyelsew> brb
[02:06] <kindofabuzz> anyone know how to turn off join/leave messages in kvirc?
[02:06] <khaije1> when hardy is release does that mean that people running beta can dist-upgrade to the release version
[02:06] <khaije1> ?
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> khaije1: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/04/21/upgrading-from-beta-to-rc-and-beyond/
[02:07] <ganymede> can anyone show me an example gtkrc that overrides which font to use for east asian languages like chinese, japanese, and korean? currently, the wrong font is used to display chinese characters, but latin charactesr look fine.
[02:07] <khaije1> Odd-rationale: sweet thanks!
[02:07] <jhoc2x> how to mount a drive?
[02:08] <n-iCe> Can someone help me out with a webcam? can't get it work
[02:08] <dubby> jhoc2x sudo mount
[02:08] <friel_> reformated. 230gig drive is now EXT3. still unable to save files to it from Transmission
[02:08] <kelvin911> hello any wine expert here?
[02:08] <Jester54> jhoc2x: sudo mount -t type /dev/hd /mnt
[02:08] <dubby> kelvin911 #winehq
[02:08] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL,  what is the encryption on the wireless router?
[02:09] <U9527> kelvin911, all you know is games, :p
[02:09] <XFLXFLXFL> WPA
[02:09] <kelvin911> yea
[02:09] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, and you are on gutsy?
[02:09] <lekremyelsew> does anyone know a program that can make gamepads move the mouse or make keystrokes
[02:09] <kelvin911> i deleted the wine and the shortcut in main menu now i cant get the menu back
[02:09] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhor Um whats gutsy? lol
[02:09] <bazhang> !webcam | n-ice read this first
[02:09] <ubotu> n-ice read this first: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:10] <U9527> kelvin911, how old are you?
[02:10] <kelvin911> very old
[02:10] <U9527> lol
[02:10] <U9527> kelvin911, then what is wrong
[02:10] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[02:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:10] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, and you are on gutsy? gutsy is 7.10, latest release, (until tomorrow)
[02:10] <U9527> stooooop
[02:10] <kelvin911> i just want to have the menu
[02:10] <kelvin911> i dont wanna create my own and use terminal all the time
[02:10] <XFLXFLXFL> I have the latest DL of ubuntu yes.. I just downloaded it and installed it a week ago
[02:10] <U9527> hmm,kelvin911, reinstall
[02:11] <Myrtti> XFLXFLXFL: open up the terminal and type "lsb_release -a"
[02:11] <kelvin911> i did reinstall
[02:11] <lekremyelsew> anyone?
[02:11] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: mouve the mouse yes; but you sure you want to type with a gamepad?
[02:12] <cirkit> when I connect to my wireless network, it always it allow or deny with a password, what password is it asking for exactly?
[02:12] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, all i can find on your card and 7.10 is this,,, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=578495
[02:12] <samalex> hey guys .. question, on ubuntu server how the heck can I configure what actually starts on startup?  I installed postgre and other services, but I don't want them starting automatically
[02:12] <xork> hello! i'm trying to install from an alternate install cd to a powerbook g3, and i get an error "No common CD-ROM drive was detected", but I'm booted from the cd-rom drive! any ideas?
[02:12] <cirkit> always happens when I click to connect to my wireless network
[02:12] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, still looking tho
[02:12] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: not all of the games that i have are joystick compatible
[02:12] <samalex> also how do I restart services, like netatalk for example?
[02:12] <bazhang> cirkit: the wallet pass? or the wpa pass
[02:12] <cirkit> samalex: /etc/init.d/netatalk restart
[02:12] <kelvin911> i did reinstall wine
[02:13] <kelvin911> and still get no menu
[02:13] <cirkit> bazhang: I believe it is a wallet pass...
[02:13] <cirkit> I can put in my wpa pass no problem ...
[02:13] <kelvin911> is there a way to create it?
[02:13] <cirkit> but it asks for some wallet one
[02:13] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: what is it called i have to got eat dinner
[02:13] <U9527> kelvin911, reinstall that app
[02:13] <Starnestommy> samalex: "sudo update-rc.d -f servicename remove" will stop loading on startup.  "sudo incoke-rc.d servicename restart" will restart it
[02:13] <kelvin911> i reinstall wine like 3 times already
[02:13] <Starnestommy> samalex: er, that should've been invoke-rc.d
[02:13] <kelvin911> and also the game
[02:13] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, try this (assuming you have the card back in and the machine booted)    lshw -C network
[02:13] <bazhang> cirkit: the wallet pass, then yes--best to remember that one--I forgot mine and was tricky to get it back ;]
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[02:14] <U9527> kelvin911, hmm, #wine
[02:14] <MrObvious> Is there a way I can get the full 8.04 now or what?
[02:14] <cirkit> bazhang: "Enter password for default keyring to unlock ... The application 'nm-applet /usr/bin/nm-applet' wants access to the default keyring, but it is locked"
[02:14] <XFLXFLXFL> SeaPhor booting right now
[02:14] <samalex> Starnestommy: thanks...  is there anyway to see what's set to start?  Or is there a manual way ofdoing this? just curious.
[02:14] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: not really sure what you have in mind--please provide more info
[02:14] <cirkit> bazhang: I never created a wallet pass, though
[02:15] <bazhang> cirkit: then try just closing the box when it comes up
[02:15] <gaspipe1> anyone maintain their iphone with ubuntu?
[02:15] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: i have a microsoft controller that rotates, is there a way i cud make the axis control the mouse
[02:15] <Starnestommy> samalex: ls /etc/rc2.d will list them if 2 is the default runlevel.  ls /etc/rcS.d lists all services that start on every runlevel
[02:16] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: ah a MS one; not sure on that--I have a generic usb gamepad type controller that can move the mouse
[02:16] <kelvin911> i try #winehq they help with ubuntu menu
[02:16] <kelvin911> in wine should i pick ALSA or OSS for audio?
[02:16] <doctormo> kelvin911: ALSA
[02:16] <bazhang> gaspipe1: likely need iTunes with that
[02:16] <kelvin911> what OSS is for?
[02:17] <tomd123> kelvin911: sound
[02:17] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: i can calibrate it and it works so i know its outputting, its usb, so i cud prolly do it the same way as u did
[02:17] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: I just did it through the app I was using (dosbox) and it was fine
[02:17] <zash> gaspipe1: if you have it jailbreaked and have ssh on it then you can mount it with sshfs
[02:17] <friel_> trying to change the owner of /dev/sda2 to friel from root. in terminal as su. tried chown friel in the /dev directory. not working, any hints?
[02:18] <miguel> when the new ISO files will be updated??
[02:18] <bazhang> miguel: read the /topic
[02:18] <kelvin911> 2what ALSA for?
[02:18] <hansin> kelvin911: both OSS and ALSA are linux sound sub-systems.  OSS is the older of the two.  ALSA is the newer.  use ALSA seems right.
[02:18] <kelvin911> why there are ALSA and OSS?
[02:18] <kelvin911> ok
[02:19] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: thx, g2g
[02:19] <kelvin911> why ALSA is NVidia and OSS realtek??
[02:19] <kelvin911> i thought my on board sound is realtek but why in ALSA mixer it shows nVidia?
[02:19] <bazhang> kelvin911: that is not really a ubuntu support question
[02:20] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: I think nvidia and realtek are very similar sound systems
[02:20] <acu> I want to convert a .rm (real media video) to any other video format (preferably 3g2 - o 3gp but can be wmv or other format - can ayone tell me some ways to do that ?
[02:21] <Falkman> Hey everyone, so does ubuntu come out at midnight tonight? or at some random time?
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[02:21] <pleaehlep> hi
[02:21] <Starnestommy> Falkman: there is no exact time
[02:21] <kelvin911> dont know why i can not play rtcw anymore
[02:21] <bazhang> Falkman: read the /topic
[02:21] <sniker> Falkman: Depends on what timezone you are in. ;) But check the topic. There is no exact time
[02:21] <pleaehlep> is there anyway to find a wireless access point's mac address?
[02:21] <jhoc2x_> how to mount the ipod? (i have the cables plugged in.. at first the drive icon shows at desktop, but recently i can't see it.. i check it on /var/logs/msgs >>> it has line where the usb is detected.. any idea??
[02:21] <Marfi> sniker, its already past 1PM GMT   =P
[02:21] <kelvin911> after i install update to wine 0.9.58 i can not play rtcw anymore
[02:21] <bazhang> only 12 more hours of 'read the topic'
[02:22] <crimsun> pleaehlep: iwlist, iwconfig, etc.
[02:22] <kelvin911> i uninstall 0.9.58, delete ,wine dir
[02:22] <Marfi> but they are working their asses off, to bring us yet another wonerful release
[02:22] <AutoMatriX> can someone tell me how to synchronise my cellular phone (Nokia6610) with evolution via IRDA ????
[02:22] <jhoc2x_> kelvin911: what is rtcw?
[02:22] <kelvin911> reinstall 0.9.46 that is in ubuntu repos i still cant run it
[02:22] <AutoMatriX> or can someone send mi a link wher to search
[02:22] <kelvin911> return to castle wolfenstein
[02:22] <corden> guys just want to ask, what version of ubutnu mostly of you currently using? cause here in our office we still use 6.10 and i want to suggest to move to 7.04 or 7.10. tnx
[02:22] <jhoc2x_> i see..
[02:22]  * AutoMatriX lost nearly alll of his hair and the rest got grey
[02:23] <bazhang> corden: likely gutsy
[02:23] <jhoc2x_> how to mount the ipod? (i have the cables plugged in.. at first the drive icon shows at desktop, but recently i can't see it.. i check it on /var/logs/msgs >>> it has line where the usb is detected.. any idea??
[02:23] <kelvin911> i shouldnt upgrade the wine
[02:23] <gaspipe1> bazhang: u ever run itunes with wine?
[02:23] <kelvin911> now something screw up
[02:23] <gaspipe1> zash: i don't have it jailbroke
[02:23] <kelvin911> games are slow in new wine
[02:23] <corden> oic bazhang, that would help.
[02:23] <bazhang> gaspipe1: never found the need as I have no iPhone and iPods work fine with (Hardy)
[02:23] <pleaehlep> in iwlist what do i put for [last]?
[02:24] <corden> and one other thing, anyone of you using sony ercisson's themes creator?
[02:24] <sniker> Marfi: Yeah, well. He asked if it came out at midnight or at any other random time, and since we don't know his timezone, we can't know what is midnight for him. ;P
[02:24] <twistage> Anyone know why clicking Conky selects multiple items on my desktop?
[02:25] <jaymacdonald> Is this the opensource version of windows yes?
[02:25] <pleaehlep> in iwlist command what do i put in for [last]?
[02:25] <pleaehlep> and what does it mean
[02:25] <bazhang> jaymacdonald: funny but offtopic
[02:25] <gaspipe1> bazhang: i hear ya... I am just wondering about this iphone
[02:25] <Dr_willis> twistage,  clicking conky? You mean clicking on the conky output on the desktop?
[02:25] <SeaPhor> XFLXFLXFL, you still there?
[02:26] <twistage> Dr_willis: Yeah
[02:26] <arkaniad> Hello!
[02:26] <ng0n> i love the nick - twistage
[02:26] <bazhang> !appdb | gaspipe1 you might check here about iTunes
[02:26] <ubotu> gaspipe1 you might check here about iTunes: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:26] <arkaniad> anyone need help? ask away!
[02:26] <ng0n> sounds like me after another Vista wipeout.
[02:27] <arkaniad> lol
[02:27] <gaspipe1> bazhang: TY!!
[02:27] <arkaniad> ng0n
[02:27] <Dr_willis> twistage,  why do ya need to click on it? :) conky can act a little weird when used with gnome/kde unless you use some special options witth it and set up gnome/kde right. You might want to check the conky homepage - i think the FAQ has some info on it.
[02:27] <ng0n> ark: what i need ain't on the menu.
[02:27] <arkaniad> lol
[02:27] <arkaniad> ?
[02:27] <twistage> ng0n: Thanks, haha
[02:27] <ng0n> but thanks
[02:27] <arkaniad> whats that supposed to mean
[02:27] <arkaniad> over my head
[02:27] <bazhang> arkaniad: how can I enter chinese characters in firefox skim does not do it thanks
[02:27] <arkaniad> hmm
[02:27] <arkaniad> first of all, why u need chineese chars.
[02:27] <twistage> Dr_willis: Yeah, i dont know Im just weird like that, bugs like that annoy me
[02:28] <bazhang> arkaniad: besides the point; any ideas?
[02:28] <arkaniad> if you can find a copy of them somewhere else theres copy n paste
[02:28] <Dr_willis> twistage,  the 'allow programs to draw desktop' setting i think is  one of the settings you have to tweak.
[02:28] <U9527> bazhang, what is skim, why not scim
[02:28] <U9527> !info skim
[02:28] <ubotu> skim (source: skim): smart common input method platform for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.5-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1238 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[02:28] <bazhang> arkaniad: no idea then?
[02:28] <arkaniad> bazhang: no, not really
[02:28] <MagicFab> Spanish speaking users: Celebrando Ubuntu 8.04 ? Unete a otros hispanos en el canal #ubuntu-release-party-es
[02:29] <bazhang> thanks any way arkaniad
[02:29] <pleaehlep> in iwlist command what do i put in for [last]?
[02:29] <U9527> bazhang, why cannot you input in ff
[02:29] <TwinX> !es | MagicFab
[02:29] <ubotu> MagicFab: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[02:29] <arkaniad> bazhang: i am not totally helpful :( i have only been using ubuntu for maybe a week
[02:29] <bazhang> U9527: my question exactly ;]
[02:29] <U9527> llol
[02:29] <iusegnulinux> kubuntu 8.04 uses kde-4 ?
[02:29] <Starnestommy> pleaehlep: [last] is optional optional
[02:30] <Starnestommy> (with one "optional", not 2)
[02:30] <arkaniad> iusegnulinux: in Kubuntu KDE Remix
[02:30] <arvind_khadri> iusegnulinux, yea
[02:30] <twistage> Bah whats the shortcut for the run window?
[02:30] <malocite> I want to add a word to the front of every filename in a directory (from the console) can someone tell me how to do that?
[02:30] <ganymede> how can i control which font gtk falls back to for displaying east asian characters like chinese, japanese, and korean? the font i'd like to use in that case is different from the font i'd like to use for latin characters
[02:30] <U9527> bazhang, how come? can you show a picture
[02:30] <maw> can vesa drivers in xorg.conf support dual display?
[02:30] <Starnestommy> twistage: alt+f2
[02:30] <twistage> Starnestommy: ah thanks
[02:30] <cropic> Do you Ubuntu?
[02:30] <pleaehlep> what does [essid nnn] mean? nnn means what?
[02:30] <iusegnulinux> thanks
[02:30] <arkaniad> guys, imm gonna do some pushups
[02:30] <arkaniad> lol
[02:31] <Starnestommy> pleaehlep: the name of the wireless network
[02:31] <bazhang> U9527: thanks; I'll figure it out--too busy helping here I guess to solve my own problems ;]
[02:31] <Starnestommy> pleaehlep: because it's between [ and ], it's optional
[02:31] <arkaniad> Does anyone use Yakuake>
[02:31] <Dr_willis> arkaniad,  yes - its very popular with a lot of KDE users.
[02:32] <U9527> bazhang, no one forced you to help
[02:32] <arkaniad> Dr_willis: hey, i use Gnome, :)
[02:32] <bazhang> cropic: is that your really ubuntu support question?
[02:32] <cropic> hehe I don't have ubuntu
[02:32] <bazhang> U9527: too true ;] more of an obsession really
[02:32] <arkaniad> cropic: that is off topic
[02:32] <Dr_willis> arkaniad,  theres a similer progam for gnome i recall.
[02:32] <bazhang> cropic: why are you here then
[02:33] <cropic> I know, I'm really not supposed to be in here.
[02:33] <arkaniad> cropic: cropic, dont be off topic :E
[02:33] <Devourer> What are the text files with ~ at the end of their name for?
[02:33] <Starnestommy> Devourer: they're backups created by some text editors
[02:33] <arkaniad> Dr_willis: meh, idc, as long as i have my Quake style...
[02:33] <Devourer> Starnestommy, isn't that a bit messy, shouldn't they be deleted?
[02:33] <arkaniad> Dr_willis: hit f12 and do my apt-get addiction! :D
[02:33] <ninjaslim> when i try to run miro on ubuntu, i get this error http://www.pastebin.ca/995330
[02:33] <ninjaslim> what's goin gon here
[02:34] <Dr_willis> arkaniad,  i always have a dozen terminals open anyway.
[02:34] <U9527> bazhang, any idea when ?
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[02:34] <arkaniad> anyone here not know how to compile source?
[02:34] <corden> guy how do i get Gstreamer 0.8 within gutsy? since it uses Gstreamer 0.10
[02:35] <arkaniad> croden: why downgrade?
[02:35] <arvind_khadri> arkaniad, yeah but try to get a .deb
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[02:35] <trev> my computer is running mad hot and heating up the room im in, it has a 2.67ghz P4, is there any way i can make it run cooler,like temporarely underclock it?
[02:35] <U9527> arkaniad, ./configure make make install
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[02:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[02:35] <arkaniad> arvind_khadri: or instead of make install use checkinstall -d
[02:35] <corden> because sony ericsson's themes creator uses GStreamer 0.8
[02:35] <arkaniad> hmm
[02:35] <Invert314> oh boy
[02:35] <sadmin_> hello, first time linux user here.. running gos
[02:36] <arvind_khadri> arkaniad, thats make check and then make install
[02:36] <arkaniad> corden: virtualization?
[02:36] <arkaniad> lol
[02:36] <bazhang> U9527: sorry missed your question
[02:36] <JPSman> elisboa: what is a native Linux driver?
[02:37] <arkaniad> !help
[02:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:37] <RyanPrior> JPSman: It's a Linux driver which runs in the kernel, rather than via a hack like ndiswrapper.
[02:37] <corden> maybe but native would be good. is there any way i can add it to the repo so that i can install it from there?
[02:37] <arkaniad> !info
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <sadmin_> how do i add a program to the gos dock?
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[02:38] <arkaniad> drag - drop
[02:38] <arkaniad> loke OSX
[02:38] <RyanPrior> sadmin_: This is not a gOS support room, sorry.
[02:38] <arkaniad> ?
[02:38] <ninjaslim> when i try to run miro on ubuntu, i get this error http://www.pastebin.ca/995330
[02:38] <sadmin_> ok, thanks anyway
[02:38] <ninjaslim> what's goin gon here
[02:38] <arkaniad> try possibly #gos
[02:38] <arkaniad> on freenode
[02:38] <arkaniad> idk!
[02:38] <RyanPrior> arkaniad: We're on Freenode, so that goes without saying. :-)
[02:38] <arkaniad> :D me so stupid
[02:39] <JPSman> RyanPrior: how effective if ndiswrapper?  and will it clash with the newest drivers (when they fix the rt2x00 driver bugs in 2.6.24-16) ?
[02:39] <trev> power
[02:39] <Dante123> I have monitor, keyboard, mouse and all that....just looking for PC.  Also I have a pci-e card (nvidia 7600 gs) I would pop in if it is better than integrated video that comes with pc.  I would like to spend under 400 dollars canadian......please check out local retailer and tell me what system catches your eye in my price range at http://www.canadacomputers.com/computers/
[02:39] <Dante123> I plan on using ubuntu on it
[02:39] <ninjaslim> arkaniad: is that for me
[02:39] <arkaniad> ninjalism: what?
[02:39] <zero__> hey, i installed kubuntu desktop, how do i remove it?
[02:39] <RyanPrior> JPSman: for many wireless cards ndiswrapper is the only option, and it works well for many people. That being said, native drivers are nicer, so go with an Intel or Atheros card if you can.
[02:40] <arkaniad> !nvidia
[02:40] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:40] <arkaniad> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <zero__> I've tried to remove it using these instructions: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[02:40] <arkaniad> !ndiswrapper
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:40] <zero__> arkaniad, it didnt work
[02:40] <RyanPrior> Dante123: We don't support computer hardware or make recommendations here. You could try asking in ##hardware
[02:41] <arkaniad> what version of ubuntu
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[02:41] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[02:41] <Dante123> ok, sorry.
[02:41] <arkaniad> dapper? edgy? feisty? gutsy? hardy?
[02:41] <arkaniad> zero__: what version of ubuntu
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[02:42] <Dante123> hardy
[02:42] <FFEMTcJ> how can i tell if im using x86 or x64
[02:42] <denali> Anyone here use a Logitech LX3 mouse?
[02:42] <Starnestommy> FFEMTcJ: uname -m
[02:42] <zash> zero__: remove all dependencies of kubuntu-desktop. but what do you want to have after that?
[02:42] <arkaniad> FFEMTcJ: what kind of proscessor u have
[02:42] <FFEMTcJ> arkaniad: its a intel quad core
[02:43] <arkaniad> FFEMTcJ: im pretty sure that is 32
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> then it's 64 bit
[02:43] <arkaniad> well, im pretty sure im wrong!
[02:43] <arkaniad> lol
[02:43] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know if any big bugs have been found in the hardy rc? i'm thinking about dling/installing it right now, but i can wait if there's going to be a big difference in tomorrow's release
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> core 2 quad?
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[02:43] <InYourBase> FFEMTcJ: run `uname -a`
[02:43] <arkaniad> secleinteer: just wait till tomorrow. just 1 day? is that so bad?
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[02:44] <n-iCe> Hello anyone to help me out? it's a webcam issue
[02:44] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, is it a debian kernel??
[02:44] <ApOgEE-> did i still use compiz if i turn to none on visual effects?
[02:44] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri,  I think so, Ubuntu 7.10
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !webcam
[02:45] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:45] <secleinteer> arkaniad: yes, it is :/
[02:45] <secleinteer> i feel like installing today :P
[02:45] <Starnestommy> ApOgEE-: I think it's metacity instead of compiz in that case
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> secleinteer, Install today, update tomorrow
[02:45] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, i mean did you get a new kernel
[02:45] <arkaniad> secleinteer: it should be stable enough
[02:45] <Twistage> My resolution is stuck @ 1024x768 after plugging in my TV and then removing it, is there a way to fix it?
[02:45] <arkaniad> secleinteer: there will be updates availible if you find bugs :D
[02:45] <secleinteer> arkaniad: well someone in the kubuntu channel said that there's a new kernel
[02:45] <FFEMTcJ> ty all
[02:45] <secleinteer> is that going to be a big deal?
[02:46] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri,  this is the uname -a , Linux lucia-laptop 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
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[02:46] <arkaniad> secleinteer: just jump in, you never know till you try!
[02:46] <egghead2> just installed a netmos 9820 chipset dual port serial pci card, card is seen, but i want to change the irq and port address of the com ports, where would i look or what file do i edit to make these changes?
[02:46] <gogeta> 2 hrs to go woot
[02:46] <gogeta> lol
[02:46] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, ok this is our kernel
[02:46] <arkaniad> secleinteer: feel free to hunt me down if it goes wrong
[02:46] <gaspipe1> bazhang: that link u sent was/is great
[02:46] <MrObvious> gogeta: For what?
[02:46] <MrObvious> Twistage: Check xorg.conf?
[02:46] <Jack_Sparrow> n-iCe, so you are not running ubuntu
[02:46] <secleinteer> arkaniad: well i suppose it can't be worse than the gentoo install i have on that computer right now ;)
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[02:47] <secleinteer> i've just about it had it with that
[02:47] <gogeta> hardy
[02:47] <MrObvious> lol
[02:47] <ApOgEE-> i'm having problem to run blender. #blendercoder ask me to turn off compiz. how to do that?
[02:47] <bazhang> gaspipe1: did that help? nice ;]
[02:47] <MrObvious> gogeta: You mean it will be relelased in 2 hours?
[02:47] <linkinxp> so when its the time to release it???
[02:47] <arkaniad> secleinteer: i prefer debian based, i am addicted to apt-get like heroin
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> no time is set..
[02:47] <sjovan> what do i need to get png's smaller?
[02:47] <linkinxp> and no updates??
[02:47] <gaspipe1> bazhang: yeah.. now i'm gonna try and install it... never did this with wine b4
[02:47] <Starnestommy> ApOgEE-: set the desktop effects to "none"
[02:47] <linkinxp> i havent got anything within  8 hours
[02:47] <cirkit> Anyone know how to get network manager applet back in the gnome panel? It doesn't seem to be in the panel applet list
[02:48] <Orbixx> Anyone know why manual connection with WiFi needs to be reconfigured on every startup to work?
[02:48] <MrObvious> I'm downloading the RC now.
[02:48] <MrObvious> Should I just wait 2 hours?
[02:48] <linkinxp> Orbixx,  yes i wonder the same questions
[02:48] <secleinteer> arkaniad: i realized how much portage sucked very quickly ;)
[02:48] <arkaniad> cirkit: it is in the repos in add/remove.
[02:48] <ApOgEE-> Starnestommy: is that all?
[02:48] <n-iCe> Jack_Sparrow,  Well that's the reply I Installed it using the original ubuntu cd
[02:48] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, thats your resolv.conf
[02:48] <Starnestommy> ApOgEE-: yes
[02:48] <arkaniad> secleinteer: i would not have a non-deb handling distro and use it regularly.
[02:48] <Orbixx> arvind_khadri: Care to elaborate a little?
[02:48] <Jack_Sparrow> n-iCe, in term do this    lsb_release -a
[02:49] <linkinxp> please arvind_khadri
[02:49] <Orbixx> My DNS servers are correct and do not need altering.
[02:49] <CJS3141> What is the relationship (if any) between using System > Administration > Software Sources, or adding repositories directly to the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[02:49] <Deathserver> how do i uninstall flash ... sry im new to ubuntu and this terminal thing flash messed up a few site's and now i cant see links, i think its something to do with fonts ?
[02:49] <Orbixx> It is just a static IP address that I require.
[02:49] <bcnaat> How do I enter a pgp key in evolution so I can read the encrypted message from launchpad?
[02:49] <n-iCe> there you go, Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[02:49] <n-iCe> Description:    Ubuntu 7.10
[02:49] <linkinxp> CJS3141,  text based and GUI
[02:49] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, on every restart resolv.conf gets re setted to an older value
[02:49] <MrObvious> arkaniad: I know PCLOS uses apt-get with RPMs. That's pretty cool.
[02:49] <thinkingfrog> hello all
[02:49] <linkinxp> arvind_khadri,  where is that file?
[02:49] <linkinxp> thinkingfrog,  hi
[02:49] <sdakak> Today is 24th. Even at UTC. when people? when?
[02:49] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, linkinxp /etc/resolv.conf
[02:49] <sjovan> edit: what do i need to compress *.png? the pics takes to much space now
[02:49] <linkinxp> arvind_khadri,  thanks
[02:49] <arkaniad> MrObvious: apt-rpm? way cool
[02:49] <Orbixx> arvind_khadri: There has only been one value in resolv.conf
[02:50] <Dr_willis> 'The official release will happen when it happens, there is no set time for  it to magicially appear on all the servers/mirrors'
[02:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !rpm
[02:50] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:50] <Starnestommy> sdakak: there is no set time.  It can be any time between now and tomorrow
[02:50] <MrObvious> arkaniad: No, apt-get with RPMs.
[02:50] <sdakak> Starnestommy: ok.
[02:50] <arkaniad> MrObvious: i just said that to make a point
[02:50] <MrObvious> Starnestommy: Which time zone?
[02:50] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, linkinxp to make that file permanent you need to use resolvconf package
[02:50] <sdakak> MrObvious:
[02:50] <arkaniad> !apt
[02:50] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:50] <cirkit> arkaniad: "Add to this panel", network manager does not show up in the list to add it to the panel .. it's installed.
[02:50] <arkaniad> just some bkgd info
[02:51] <Leonidas_> hello everyone
[02:51] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, when you set dns values into the "netwrok-admin" the values will be entered in that file
[02:51] <CJS3141> linkinxp: So if I add extra sources to the sources.list file, will Synaptic also be able to access those repositories?
[02:51] <arkaniad> cirkit: idk?!
[02:51] <linkinxp> CJS3141,  i guess yes!
[02:51] <aficionado> when will the official 8.04 iso be uploaded to servers?
[02:51] <Deathserver> if any one gets a sec to help id be gratefull
[02:51] <Orbixx> arvind_khadri: Yes, I know.
[02:51] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, yes, but be careful about adding unsupported repos
[02:51] <arkaniad> cirkit: i dont think i have ever used it...
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[02:51] <arkaniad> cirkit: re install it
[02:51] <linkinxp> arvind_khadri,  so thats a package!?
[02:51] <extor> Does anyone here use nginx for perl or php hosting?
[02:52] <Leonidas_> I have a couple of problems with boot up.  It seems that my machine takes a while to boot up, can anyone lend a hand?
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[02:52] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, so for making the change permanent use the package...and then edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[02:52] <justnuts> orbixx, if u r using dhcp client ...modify ur /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and add "prepend domain-name-servers $ip1 $ip2"
[02:52] <CJS3141> Jack_Sparrow: OK, and when I use the "Software Sources" program, does it modify the sources.list file or does it have its own file somewhere?
[02:52] <Orbixx> justnuts: I'm configured with static.
[02:52] <eido> what does a file mean that appears #blah_blah# when performing ls, is this really a file?
[02:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, remove splash from the command line.. see if that helps
[02:52] <tale_> does anybody know if you can upgrade a 6.06 server directly to 8.04 server, since they are both LTS releases?
[02:52] <Deathserver> does gnash work with ubuntu
[02:52] <Orbixx> arvind_khadri: Could I not just make it unwritable?
[02:53] <arkaniad> tale_: possibly
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, it modifies the same file
[02:53] <linkinxp> arvind_khadri,  the other problem its when i boot up it connects to my wireless and the disconnects until the 3 or 4th time then it stays
[02:53] <n-iCe> Im downloading easycam
[02:53] <Leonidas_> I don't have splash to begin with
[02:53] <Starnestommy> eido: it is, but I think it's a backup file left behind by a text editor
[02:53] <danbhfive> tale_: you are supposed to be able to
[02:53] <Dr_willis> tale_,  thats 'supposed' to be doable  i recall.
[02:53] <Starnestommy> Deathserver: yes
[02:53] <Deathserver> ty is it better then flash
[02:53] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, that wont be a good thing
[02:53] <eido> Starnestommy: ty
[02:53] <arkaniad> tale_: i recall seeing a guide,
[02:53] <danbhfive> tale_: i think it you enable the updates repo, it will happen
[02:53] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow i have to hit ctrl + alt + F1 to get keep the boot process going
[02:53] <Jack_Sparrow> tale_, It is supposed to work.. but this is the first time
[02:53] <arkaniad> !upgrades
[02:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:53] <CJS3141> Jack_Sparrow: Great. And what dangers are you alluding to when you say to be careful about adding unsupported repositories?
[02:53] <orkid> NetworkManager sucks, get used to it ;0
[02:54] <Orbixx> arvind_khadri: Can you give me an example command with resolvconf, please?
[02:54] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow it says something about a bios error
[02:54] <tale_> I know that upgrading is typically only supported if you upgrade sequentially, but I'm not sure if LTS releases are different
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, remove quiet from boot line and see where it is hanging
[02:54] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, the way  i suggested is official ubuntu forums one
[02:54] <arkaniad> !HardyUpgrades
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardyupgrades - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <Deathserver> and if so how to uninstall flash i ran the script supplied to install
[02:54] <arkaniad> lol
[02:54] <Leonidas_> where is that file at?
[02:54] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, example as in what
[02:54] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow where is that boot file at?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> tale_,  i belive one of their goals was to have easy upgrading from the lts to lts releases.. but ive not tested it.. and no of no one else that has done so,
[02:54] <Orbixx> arvind_khadri: resolvconf --example
[02:54] <arkaniad> /etc/rc/boot?
[02:54] <Orbixx> ?
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, You can completely trash your system simply by adding debian repos,  even though we are debian based..
[02:55] <tale_> Dr_willis,  thanks.  Do you remember where this is documented?  I'm looking for some docs.
[02:55] <arkaniad> Dr_willis: it is very easy i recall
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !debian
[02:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[02:55] <arkaniad> tale_: go to ubuntu site and search HardyUpgrades. its in there
[02:55] <n-iCe> easycam didn't work, anything else?
[02:55] <ApOgEE-> which window manager is good for my hp nx9010 to run blender?
[02:55] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow ok let me try that
[02:55] <ApOgEE-> is it beryl?
[02:55] <kelvin911> for some reason i got rtcw working again
[02:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[02:55] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[02:55] <Starnestommy> ApOgEE-: metacity
[02:56] <Dr_willis> ApOgEE-,  i doubt if you will want the compiz/eyecandy when running blender. :)
[02:56] <arvind_khadri> Orbixx, the package resolvconf sets the daemon onto itself...to edit it sudo vim /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[02:56] <Deathserver> any ideas on uninstalling flash im sure its easy <ihope>
[02:56] <kelvin911> how to generate wine menu?
[02:56] <Orbixx> Weird, the repos are screwing up.
[02:56] <arkaniad> Dr_willis: can anyone say Slow?
[02:56] <Orbixx> I think Ubuntu 8.04 is about to be released...
[02:56] <CJS3141> Jack_Sparrow: Really? I believe I've downloaded and used some debian software no problem--I mean .deb files for instance. Are the debian repositories different?
[02:56] <Dr_willis> arkaniad,  i was thinking more of 'buggy' :)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> kelvin911, /join #Winehq
[02:56] <kelvin911> i did join
[02:56] <arkaniad> lol
[02:57] <kelvin911> they said this is distro problem
[02:57] <Starnestommy> CJS3141: they are very different
[02:57] <n-iCe> easycam didn't work, anything else? how Can I install my webcam
[02:57] <kelvin911> i dont knwo
[02:57] <arkaniad> PEople of ubuntu i dont have to download, i ordered CD's!
[02:57] <smith> hello
[02:57] <arvind_khadri> smith, hi
[02:57] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow , so just remove the word 'quiet' or the whole phrase 'quiet splash'
[02:57] <kelvin911> but i can live with terminal to open the game in wine
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[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, Yes, as the factoid says, they are different and should not be used if you want to keep a stable system.. some will work, some will trash your os..
[02:57] <smith> anyone here use Ubuntu Studio, or anyone have a comment on it?
[02:57] <Marfi> kelvin911, shell script? =)
[02:57] <CyberCod> I've used it
[02:57] <arkaniad> smith: it is KOOLIO!
[02:57] <Marfi> its Jack_Sparrow!!! *waves*
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, You told me earlier you already removed splash
[02:57] <mohbana> what time is ubuntu going to be released?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Marfi, Howdy...
[02:58] <kelvin911> how to write shell script?
[02:58] <arkaniad> smith: think ubuntu multimedia producer style
[02:58] <Starnestommy> mohbana: between now and tomorrow
[02:58] <kelvin911> is it similar to batch file in dos?
[02:58] <Jack_Sparrow> kelvin911, /join #Bash
[02:58] <Flannel> mohbana: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:58] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  fire up a text editor and start wriging.
[02:58] <U9527> arkaniad, shame on you, why not burn a cd yourself
[02:58] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: similar, but the syntax is very different
[02:58] <mohbana> lame
[02:58] <n-iCe> !webcam
[02:58] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:58] <kelvin911> do i put those command in that file?
[02:58] <Starnestommy> yes
[02:58] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  basicially. Bash is documented all over the place. Check out the Advanced-bash-scripting-guide
[02:58] <arkaniad> U9527: cause i dont need it desperately
[02:58] <smith> in class I work on MAC photoshop, etc, how does it compare (I plan on it being my profession)
[02:58] <pzn> Hi. I'm using ubuntu gutsy. gnome-power-manager shows the battery icon as it should; however, I got no notify messages when batt is low. any hints about hot to enable notify "popups"?
[02:58] <U9527> see
[02:58] <CyberCod> smith:  its pretty cool, but I wish they had taken the time to split up the audio and video categories in the menu... there's just so dang many of em,
[02:58] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow, I thought you meant splash as in the "ubuntu splash" picture while the system is loading.  It has never been there since day one
[02:58] <CJS3141> Starnestommy, Jack_Sparrow: OK, so is it unsafe to install .deb files?
[02:58] <kelvin911> cd ~/.wine/whateverthedir
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[02:59] <kelvin911> then wine game.exe?
[02:59] <Orbixx> My mistake, perhaps not.
[02:59] <tekteen> kelvin911: yes
[02:59] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  thats about the basics of it.
[02:59] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, no we use debs.. but not all debs are created equal
[02:59] <Orbixx> kelvin911: Understand that wine is never guaranteed with any games.
[02:59] <kelvin911> i know
[02:59] <kelvin911> i tested rtcw works
[02:59] <Orbixx> Good luck, however.
[02:59] <tombar_> anyone here using openvpn can lend me a hand, i cant create my Ca certificates to continue the tutorial im following
[02:59] <kelvin911> works really fine
[02:59] <Orbixx> Cool.
[02:59] <ApOgEE-> can i use apt-get to install metacity?
[02:59] <kelvin911> i can play in highest setting with no lag at all
[02:59] <arkaniad> pardon me i f im being racist - WIN BLOWS
[03:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ApOgEE-, yes
[03:00] <kelvin911> i also tried vice city
[03:00] <RyanPrior> ApOgEE-: Metacity is installed on Ubuntu by default.
[03:00] <Starnestommy> ApOgEE-: it's installed by default if you're using gnome
[03:00] <CyberCod> smith:  as I haven't used a Mac in that capacity, I can't really say
[03:00] <kelvin911> but the cars in vice city are so dark
[03:00] <RyanPrior> !windows | arkaniad
[03:00] <ubotu> arkaniad: For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[03:00] <smith> cybercod:  ok, what about photoshop etc, in general
[03:00] <Dr_willis> !appdb | kelvin911
[03:00] <ApOgEE-> metacity is already the newest version.
[03:00] <ubotu> kelvin911: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:00] <kelvin911> i never try photoshop
[03:00] <arkaniad> guys, press winkey-m and n, it makes colors funky
[03:00] <kelvin911> i maybe later
[03:01] <egghead2> just installed serial port pci card, card is seen, i need to change the irq and port addy or the ports, is there a config file i can edit?
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[03:01] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow so should I just get rid of 'ro quiet splash' ?
[03:01] <irelinquish> hey wheres the best place to put files accesable to two usernames?
[03:01] <kelvin911> i tried san andeas, but san andreas isnt playing as smooth as in xp
[03:01] <irelinquish> besides a seperate partition?
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[03:01] <RyanPrior> irelinquish: on a USB drive.
[03:01] <CyberCod> smith:  for high end stuff, I hear GIMP is right up there, the only thing that is missing is the printer color modes... (cmyk or something like that)
[03:01] <tekteen> irelinquish: or in /home/share
[03:01] <Orbixx> kelvin911: I have San Andreas, I'll have to give it a go sometime.
[03:01] <CJS3141> Jack_Sparrow: OK, so how do I know when it is safe to install a .deb file? Is there any way of knowing?
[03:01] <twistage> Does Ubuntu support live switching to external displays? or does it have to be set on boot?
[03:01] <irelinquish> ok awesome tekteen
[03:01] <tekteen> irelinquish: there is no good way
[03:01] <Flannel> twistage: It does
[03:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, from gui gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst        gksudo will allow you to write the changes
[03:01] <RyanPrior> irelinquish: There is a way to create a "shared folder", but it's kinda tricky.
[03:02] <arkaniad> for linux on a flash drive /debian based\ try DSL,
[03:02] <kelvin911> Orbixx: u seen the superman in san andreas?
[03:02] <smith> thank you cybercod, I am sure there are plug-ins which fix that problem (in dev or out)
[03:02] <tekteen> irelinquish: make a folder and make sure they can edit it
[03:02] <RyanPrior> irelinquish: You'll have to set the sticky bit so that new files inherit the parent folder's permissions.
[03:02] <ApOgEE-> any other window manager instead of metacity that is plain but can help me running blender on my hp nx9010?
[03:02] <irelinquish> i like to have a kdeusername and a gnome username
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> kelvin911, please stay on topic.. none of this is support related
[03:02] <CyberCod> smith:  there is rumor that photoshop may be coming to linux natively before too long, and there is also the option of installing the next-to-last version in crossover
[03:02] <twistage> Flannel: How do you set it up? It doesn't recognize it automatically, and i was playing with the display settings to no evail.
[03:02] <irelinquish> i'll figure it out
[03:02] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow right, I've gotten that far, I just don't know exactly what to erase under the first Ubuntu menu entry
[03:02] <irelinquish> thanks you guys
[03:02] <RyanPrior> irelinquish: Good luck.
[03:02] <Starnestommy> ApOgEE-: fluxbox, fvwm, windowmaker, enlightenment, afterstep, and several others
[03:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, remove quiet and splash
[03:02] <Flannel> twistage: If you wait until Hardy comes out, it'll be much, much easier and straight forward.
[03:03] <arkaniad> blackbox
[03:03] <irelinquish> thanks ryanprior
[03:03] <arkaniad> xfce
[03:03] <twistage> Flannel: Alright sounds good
[03:03] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow alright I'll give it a try
[03:03] <Leonidas_> brb
[03:03] <smith> I am building a 780g, amd 5000+be, 2gb of ram computer, where can I find info to see if hardware will not work?
[03:03] <CyberCod> smith: those tools are available in regular Ubuntu as well though... UbuntuStudio focuses mainly on the audio stuff
[03:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[03:03] <smith> oh.
[03:03] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:03] <irelinquish> smith live cd
[03:03] <arkaniad> !ubotu
[03:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:03] <CyberCod> and much of that is hard to deal with because "jack" is such a pain.
[03:03] <kelvin911> how to generate the wine menu in UBUNTU main menu?
[03:04] <smith> i am not interested in audio
[03:04] <CyberCod> the next version should be better for audio with the Pulse audio put in
[03:04] <Jack_Sparrow> kelvin911, /join #Winehq
[03:04] <sdakak> Could you recommend doku or moin over mediawiki for a small newsletter project that will have 500 people working at most and which will require page permissions, and other non-wiki features extensively?
[03:04] <thinkingfrog> Kelvin:  cool nickname
[03:04] <Orbixx> How do I force Thunderbird to display images from any sender?
[03:04] <smith> but Ubuntu Studio looks much better, can it be applied to normal ubuntu?
[03:04] <kelvin911> main menu is ubuntu business not winehq
[03:04] <CyberCod> smith:  I suggest just getting Ubuntu Hardy Heron (IF IT EVER COMES OUT!!!)  and installing the art apps as you see fit.
[03:04] <tekteen> Orbixx: I do not suggest it
[03:05] <kelvin911> guy told me to come here and ask
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes > smith
[03:05] <smith> On this computer (the one im on) ubuntu does not work right, the resolution is messed up
[03:05] <Starnestommy> CyberCod: it will come out within the next few hours
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  the wine program gerneates the various .desktop files. there is no app to 'regernate' them as far as i know
[03:05] <macd> smith, you can use the studio theme stuff with ubuntu
[03:05] <CyberCod> smith:  also, look into Blender... if you do any 3D type artwork
[03:05] <tekteen> Orbixx: you ready to receive alot of spam?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,   use the menu editor and make  your own i guess.
[03:05] <kelvin911> why installing wine wont generate those thing again?
[03:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > smith
[03:05] <Orbixx> tekteen: I already do, it's filtered very well.
[03:05] <CJS3141> Jack_Sparrow: I know your busy, but if you have time for one last question--how do I determine if it is safe to install a given .deb program/file?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  installing WINE wont do anything.. installing an app with wine.. should make a menu item for that app
[03:05] <CyberCod> Starnestommy: I'm not trippin... its still the 23rd here... ;)
[03:06] <arkaniad> quick ques, anyone have a quick apt command to remove evolution and install thundirbird?
[03:06] <Damjanek> Hi. Does anyone has an idea, how to get an information if power supply is in redundant mode in IBM BladeCenter via SNMP?
[03:06] <kelvin911> but i install app and menu didnt come up
[03:06] <gonzo> Buenas alguien sabra la direccion de irc de ubuntu venezuela???
[03:06] <macd> CJS3141, if its in the ubuntu repos, chances are its fine, if its a 3rd party deb, its at your own risk
[03:06] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, if it is not from our repos.. you take your chances and roll the dice.. have a system backup
[03:06] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  try logging out/back in.
[03:06] <kelvin911> do i need to add an item manually there?
[03:06] <Starnestommy> arkaniad: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:06] <smith> thank you for your help.  Could someone please repost hardware compatibility, I lost it.  THanks
[03:06] <owen1> i installed xubuntu-desktop. is it risky to get rid of gnome (apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop)?
[03:06] <kelvin911> i did log out back in many times
[03:06] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow well that definitely worked, doesn't hang at boot at all, thank you very much.  I have one more problem maybe you can help?
[03:06] <kelvin911> reboot many time
[03:06] <RyanPrior> !hardware | Starnestommy
[03:06] <ubotu> Starnestommy: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:06] <tekteen> arkaniad: sudo apt-get remove evolution; sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[03:06] <Deathserver> what fonts do i need to install to get flash working right
[03:07] <twistage> Whats up with Hardy including a Beta version of Firefox?
[03:07] <smith> ok, thank you cybercod, bye
[03:07] <jiraia> gonzo try #ubuntu-es
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, will try.. but you take your life in your hands
[03:07] <RyanPrior> Deathserver: Flash should work fine with the default fonts.
[03:07] <Dr_willis> kelvin911,  guess you make your own icon then.
[03:07] <CJS3141> macd, Jack_Sparrow: OK, thanks so much for the help! Cheers... :)
[03:07] <kelvin911> i try also all methods mention here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632090
[03:07] <CyberCod> adios mr smith
[03:07] <Jack_Sparrow> CJS3141, np
[03:07] <kelvin911> cant get it back
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[03:07] <gustavo_> hey, I am using Kopete. can I try to use my webcam with one of you?
[03:07] <Orbixx> tekteen: Still there?
[03:08] <ironic_isnt_it> im having some trouble when connecting to irc. im using ubuntu 7.10 and xchat is my irc client. first its saying couldnt lookup host name and 2nd no identd (auth) response
[03:08] <kelvin911> i mean here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410
[03:08] <Jack_Sparrow> twistage, they have obvioulsy have tested the beta enough to include it
[03:08] <tekteen> Orbixx: can't find it :-(... still looking
[03:08] <sp3_> hello
[03:08] <Orbixx> tekteen: I have been, too. Weird.
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[03:08] <sp3_> may someone please help me?
[03:08] <kelvin911> please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410
[03:08] <arkaniad> who wants HARDY!!!
[03:08] <tekteen> !ask|sp3_
[03:08] <ubotu> sp3_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[03:08] <CyberCod> sp3_: whats the issue?
[03:09] <Orbixx> tekteen: Don't worry. I'll just stick to selecting trusted recepients as and when they mail me.
[03:09] <Orbixx> tekteen: Thanks for looking, though.
[03:09] <gonzo> alguien habla español
[03:09] <Starnestommy> !es | gonzo
[03:09] <ubotu> gonzo: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:09] <ironic_isnt_it> so can someone help me out with this?
[03:09] <arkaniad> !source
[03:09] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[03:09] <gustavo_> hey, I am using Kopete. can I try to use my webcam with one of you?
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[03:09] <sp3_> if i install ubuntu on virtual machine(virtual box)..u know where it says to chooose how much ram you want to give it? well..will i get all my ram back when im not using the virtualmachine?
[03:09] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow lol.  Well, my laptop couldn't get the desktop effects working, I run 7.10.  it said the composite can't be enable, or something like that.  well I got it working after editing xorg.conf and installing some type of x program...
[03:09] <arkaniad> !offtopic | gustavo:
[03:09] <ubotu> gustavo:: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:09] <Katherine> anyone know what time Hardy Heron is "officially" released?
[03:09] <backtick> ironic_isnt_it: i use a different program but usually that means you didn't set "Ident" in settings.. so try to look for it
[03:09] <CyberCod> yes
[03:09] <arkaniad> lol
[03:10] <Starnestommy> sp3_: when the virtual machine is closed, you will get the RAM back
[03:10] <tc111>  i'm so tired of searching... i need a linux boot manager utility (preferably easy-to-use) for creating a selection list of which partition to boot on a pendrive (flashdrive, usbstick, thumbdrive, etc...). any recommendation?
[03:10] <CyberCod> sp3_ yes you will
[03:10] <ironic_isnt_it> how?
[03:10] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, ok.. xgl perhaps
[03:10] <arkaniad> gustavo: kind of random
[03:10] <Deathserver> well some sites after installing flash wont show links its just black
[03:10] <sp3_> cybercod:thanks
[03:10] <arkaniad> tc111: Grub.
[03:10] <Starnestommy> Katherine: there is no official time.  It will be released before the 25th, though
[03:10] <ironic_isnt_it> and do i possibly need to forward a port?
[03:10] <Leonidas_> Jack_Sparrow the thing is is that I don't want xgl anymore because it seems to make my laptop run poorly.  Is that possible?
[03:10] <marcel> my 435gb partition with all my work on it is marked as unallocated in gparted, i need it back now
[03:10] <fserve> hahahah
[03:10] <fserve> nice
[03:10] <fserve> os[Linux 2.6.24-16-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu 8.04] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.60GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 1.5GB, 79.8% free] disk[Total: 36.3GB, 22.4% free] video[VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP] sound[VIA8237 - VIA 82371: VIA82XX-MODEM - VIA 82XX modem]
[03:10] <fserve> im running it.
[03:10] <Katherine> so it could eb any time tomorrow
[03:11] <marcel> can someone help me a lil?
[03:11] <tc111> arkaniad: easy to use???
[03:11] <arkaniad> g2g dudes
[03:11] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: forward port 113 to your computer and run something like oidentd
[03:11] <CyberCod> marcel   hmmm
[03:11] <d0lphin_n0el> is everyone waiting for the new distro ubuntu release? :)
[03:11] <arkaniad> tc111: works 4 me
[03:11] <sdakak> The sound in flash videos in my browser stopped working. I can play music files though.
[03:11] <CyberCod> marcel  what is the last thing that happened to it?
[03:11] <tc111> arkaniad: link to a good tutorial?
[03:11] <arkaniad> tc111: im not much of a USB booter
[03:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, yes, it does suck up resources....  You should have no problem removing it, but may I suggest you make a stop at /join #Compiz to make sure it isnt something else...
[03:11] <arkaniad> tc111: i dont have any tuts,,,,, srry
[03:11] <inevaexisted> sdakak your not the only one experiencing that prob
[03:11] <marcel> CyberCod, it's a external HDD, i pluged it in, and it was marked as unallocated
[03:11] <timboy> terminal redirection isn't working for me... I'm running: ~/cxoffice/bin/wine --debugmsg=all --bottle=NOF10 Fusion.exe > fusion.log and it still displays all in the terminal
[03:11] <sdakak> inevaexisted: that is comforting but still not cool.
[03:12] <sdakak> inevaexisted: was there a update/
[03:12] <arkaniad> g2g
[03:12] <inevaexisted> not sure
[03:12] <ironic_isnt_it> forward port 113 and install oidentd?
[03:12] <tc111> i've got 6 partitions, each with syslinux and an iso image. just need a method to choose which partition to boot
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Leonidas_, time for dinner...   take care...   everyone else play nice....
[03:13] <CyberCod> marcel:   what was the last system you had it plugged into... this same one?
[03:13] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: do you completely time out when conencting?
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, yes
[03:13] <ironic_isnt_it> no i dont think so
[03:13] <gustavo_> Hello.....    I am using Kopete. can I try to use my webcam with one of you?
[03:13] <CyberCod> marcel: been close to any big magnets?
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, and a windows dual boot before that
[03:13] <sdakak> How do I fix the missing sound in flash videos? Other system sounds and music plays fine.
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, no
[03:13] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: the message about identd responses can be ignored if you can connect fine otherwise
[03:13] <ironic_isnt_it> at least i havent gotten any time out errors
[03:13] <marcel> CyberCod, its been sitting where it is for about 6 months
[03:13] <CyberCod> marcel:   what is the filesystem on it?
[03:14] <marcel> CyberCod, NTFS
[03:14] <ironic_isnt_it> well it wont let me on fefnet
[03:14] <CyberCod> there ARE data recovery centers that can take it apart physically and extract your data... but it is costly.  If the data is worth that much trouble and expense, that is the safest option
[03:15] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: hey again
[03:15] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: what is DosBox supposed to do
[03:15] <n-iCe> how can I See by terminal my usb devices names
[03:15] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: do you get any other error messages when connecting?
[03:15] <CyberCod> marcel:  in all likelihood, its just the MBR and partition table that got bunked, and the data is still there
[03:16] <marcel> CyberCod, i used testdisk and it came up with nothing
[03:16] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: u there?
[03:16] <andy_> hiya, i`m new to irc so just checking it out
[03:16] <CyberCod> if you had a backup of the partition table, (which I'm assuming you don't) you could just restore it... but without knowing EXACTLY what partitions were on it and where they started and ended precicely, you could just ruin all your data
[03:16] <n-iCe> how can I See by terminal my usb devices names
[03:16] <inevaexisted> sdakak easy fix
[03:17] <andy_> anybody out there a C# wiz?
[03:17] <inevaexisted> sdakak you need to install the package "libflashsupport" its in the default repo
[03:17] <ironic_isnt_it> those are the only two i see at for this server
[03:18] <ironic_isnt_it> are u sure its port 113 chat.freenode.net says 6667?
[03:18] <CyberCod> there is a small utility included with Partition Magic for Windoze that lets you edit the partition table directly... it may be able to get you closer to restoring the proper partition settings.  I don't know what the proper tool would be for linux.  I just use dd to backup and restore mine.  but you can't restore what you don't have backed up
[03:19] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: identd uses port 113.
[03:19] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: but IRC uses 6667
[03:19] <n-iCe> how can I See by terminal my usb devices names
[03:19] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: lsusb?
[03:19] <marcel> CyberCod, Plz tell me i can get it back
[03:19] <ironic_isnt_it> ok lol sorry so it is 113 i need to forward?
[03:19] <Starnestommy> ironic_isnt_it: yes
[03:19] <marcel> CyberCod, theres some 400+gb of work on that that i simply cant loose
[03:20] <snask> i want to set up a high encrypted chat.. but i cant find a good app for it
[03:20] <CyberCod> marcel: you most likely can, if you unplug it right now, package it nicely and send it off to a data center.  If you keep futzing around with it, chances are you will lose it all.  Are you prepared to spend a couple hundred to get your data back?  If so, thats your answer.
[03:20] <tekteen> snask: pidgin does encryptions
[03:20] <ironic_isnt_it> any idea where id find identd settings for my client?
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[03:21] <tekteen> snask: install pidgin-encryption
[03:21] <marcel> CyberCod, any other options?
[03:21] <tekteen> snask: then enable it in the plugins menu on pidgin
[03:21] <alfredo> anyone knows when 8.04 will be available (date AND TIME) ?
[03:21] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: sorry, dosbox is a way to run abandoned dos games--more info at www.abandonia.com
[03:21] <Starnestommy> alfredo: sometime between now and tomorrow
[03:21] <CyberCod> none that I know of...  someone else may be able to help if you stick around
[03:22] <marcel> ok thats my only option then...
[03:22] <fserve> the human-murrine theme, that i used in 8.04 alpha4
[03:22] <fserve> had a orange line
[03:22] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: ag, thats not what im looking for, the game that i am trying to do its a Quake based game called nexuiz
[03:22] <CyberCod> just search for Data Recovery Service  in google... should bring you a few.  shop around read reviews
[03:22] <fserve> like ubuntustudio have a blue one
[03:22] <snask> tekteen, i want a irc-like chat..
[03:23] <fserve> that line make the theme look better, but isnt here now : (
[03:23] <tekteen> snask: irc can use ssl
[03:23] <Starnestommy> snask: you could use ssl with irc, but freenode currently has no ssl
[03:23] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: it cant use the axis on the controller to change the camera so i am trying to find a work around
[03:24] <ironic_isnt_it> well im gonna and try those back in a few minutes
[03:24] <smith> hello again
[03:24] <tc111> CyberCod: testdisk is what you need for linux to recover partitions. just saved my butt by restoring the partition on my 160g drive full of my movies
[03:24] <smith> anyone here have a 780g chipset?
[03:24] <cirkit> I've reinstalled nm-applet and I don't see it in the Add to this Panel
[03:24] <tc111> marcel: testdisk is what you need for linux to recover partitions. just saved my butt by restoring the partition on my 160g drive full of my movies
[03:24] <travist120> Which channel is hardy release part on?
[03:24] <travist120> *party
[03:25] <CyberCod> tc111: thanks I will remember that.. he said he'd already tried that though
[03:25] <marcel> tc111, can you tell me how exactly you did that?
[03:25] <jitendra> i wanted to know if hardy is released
[03:25] <U9527> !hardty
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <U9527> !hardy
[03:25] <bazhang> lekremyelsew: the gaming section on ubuntuforums might help with that
[03:25] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[03:25] <InYourBase> cirkit: its not a panel application, hit Alt+f2 and then run nm-applet
[03:25] <alfredo> cirkit: be sure you are in network group
[03:25] <marcel> tc111, cause it told me that it wasnt recoverable
[03:25] <travist120> thanks
[03:25] <lekremyelsew> bazhang: mmaky
[03:25] <smith> anyone here have amd 780g chipset?
[03:25] <ironic_isnt_it> leave #ubuntu
[03:25] <cirkit> InYourBase: ahh ... well I'm just trying to get the network manager to show up in the gnome panel
[03:26] <cirkit> it got delete from the panel, and I don't see network manager in the Add Panel
[03:26] <smith> is vista eye-candy more demanding than ubuntu eye candy?
[03:26] <voradams> g'day all, quick one, is 8.04 realeased midnight GMT or some other time?
[03:26] <InYourBase> cirkit: it's not a panel applet, it just puts an icon in the system tray
[03:26] <kelvin911> can someone help me?
[03:27] <Odd-rationale> voradams: there is no spcified time
[03:27] <kelvin911> i want to manually add wine in main menu i dont know what type and what command for "Programs"
[03:27] <tc111> marcel: after realizing the partition table was gone, i didn't use the drive until i found testdisk, mind you, i didn't unmount it either, just didn't use it. ran testdisk against it and it found and restored the partition table. since it was an external, i didn't need to reboot as it said, just unplugged it and plugged it back in... bingo, back in service
[03:27] <voradams> Thanks mate.
[03:27] <kelvin911> if anyone has wine, can u check?
[03:27] <Odd-rationale> voradams: join the release party @ #ubuntu-release-party
[03:27] <smith> anyone know if 780g chipset will work on hardy heron?
[03:27] <backtick> snask: http://www.silcnet.org/
[03:27] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, just restart your gdm once
[03:27] <kelvin911> gdm?
[03:27] <marcel> tc111, im kind of new to linux is there anywhere you can point me to understand how to use it properly?
[03:27] <kelvin911> u mean reboot?
[03:28] <tc111> marcel: actually it was a slip of the keyboard by me... sde instead of sdd when wiping a single partition
[03:28] <Fa> read marcel
[03:28] <Fa> :P
[03:28] <Fa> make sure to turn on a firewal first
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:28] <tc111> marcel: hold on a sec... i'll get the link...
[03:28] <kelvin911> is it the same as reboot?
[03:28] <smith> linux has firewall?
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, nope only the X will reboot
[03:28] <smith> i know so little...
[03:28] <amenado> smith yes, but with no rulez
[03:29] <smith> ubuntu seems very complucated
[03:29] <Fa> i'm waiting for ubuntu 8 to come out
[03:29] <Fa> one more day
[03:29] <kelvin911> u sure sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart wont do anything else?
[03:29] <arvind_khadri> !iptables > smith
[03:29] <smith> i am not on ubuntu
[03:29] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, 100%
[03:29] <smith> it doesnt work on this comp
[03:29] <smith> its for other comp
[03:29] <Fa> it doesn't?
[03:29] <Fa> weird
[03:30] <smith> no, my video card is gay
[03:30] <smith> geforce 5700ve
[03:30] <Fa> so is mine
[03:30] <Fa> haha
[03:30] <kelvin911> what is gdm?
[03:30] <Light-> gnome display manager
[03:30] <KWierso> gnome display manager
[03:30] <smith> i dont get any taskbar, menubar, or anything, just a picture
[03:30] <Starnestommy> kelvin911: it provides the graphical login window and starts and restarts the X server
[03:30] <amenado> smith-> you want to learn linux? http://free-electrons.com/doc/unix_linux_introduction.pdf
[03:31] <kelvin911> my display has no problem
[03:31] <tc111> marcel: here's the link   http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[03:31] <smith> yes i do, im sick of keygens and piratiing expensive software
[03:31] <kelvin911> i delete my wine menu manually, and i cant get it back even i reinstall wine
[03:32] <smith> i have widescreen moniter, and 3 inches of it on the left is just black
[03:32] <smith> when using ubuntu, odd
[03:32] <cabrioleur> smith, change your resolution.
[03:32] <fserve> smith, can you change res?
[03:32] <smith> i cant access anything
[03:32] <quezote> hi
[03:32] <smith> the top menu bar thing is nonexistant
[03:32] <arvind_khadri> kelvin911, thats related to your GDM only
[03:32] <kelvin911> please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[03:32] <Invert314> ubuntu won't boot because i installed windows xp.  so i booted the ubuntu livecd and i can't fix it with grub. full error message details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&page=31
[03:32] <CyberCod> can you change your settings via the monitor?
[03:32] <smith> no
[03:33] <CyberCod> squish it down
[03:33] <kelvin911> how can restart the display manager getting wine menu back?
[03:33] <smith> in safe mode it works, but its massive and cant do 1440x900.  something like 800x600
[03:33] <fserve> wine menu? try reinstalling wine
[03:33] <kelvin911> i did reinstall wine
[03:33] <kelvin911> many times
[03:33] <fserve> to restart display manager /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:33] <fserve> but it will not help
[03:34] <marcel> can someone please help me get my partition back
[03:34] <kelvin911> nothing wrong with my display here
[03:34] <smith> anyone know if 780g is enough for ubuntu eyecandy/beryl
[03:34] <kelvin911> it s the menu
[03:34] <marcel> i cant figure out this testdisk and im about to pull my hair out
[03:34] <fserve> smith, yes it is
[03:34] <fserve> try it
[03:34] <kelvin911> if u have wine menu can u check the programs item in wine pls?
[03:34] <kelvin911> what is the type and the command
[03:34] <fserve> radeon HD 3200 inside ATi's 780G
[03:35] <fserve> ok
[03:35] <fserve> Browse C:\ Drive
[03:35] <fserve> xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c
[03:35] <smith> ubuntu studio doesnt have live cd and I dont want to F things up
[03:35] <fserve> Configure Wine
[03:35] <fserve> winecfg
[03:36] <kelvin911> not browse c:\
[03:36] <fserve> paste Programs
[03:36] <kelvin911> i want Programs
[03:36] <kelvin911> the first item
[03:36] <fserve> paste Accessories
[03:36] <fserve> inside
[03:36] <kelvin911> what is the type?
[03:36] <marcel> heres my drive in gparted, i cant get that 450gb partition back, i need it for work
[03:37] <marcel> http://imgup.pure-wrath.com/images/180079Screenshot--dev-sdb%20-%20GParted.png
[03:37] <fserve> paste
[03:37] <fserve> acessories is a paste
[03:37] <randomoutburst_> hey does anyone know of any good web design irc rooms?
[03:37] <fserve> Notepad file
[03:37] <fserve> command: notepad
[03:37] <fserve> comment: A clone of Windows Notepad
[03:37] <kelvin911> i mean type
[03:37] <kelvin911> type for programs
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[03:37] <kelvin911> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[03:37] <kelvin911> the first item
[03:38] <bazhang> fserve: what do you mean?
[03:38] <backtick> marcel: it's not a partition, it's shows as as "empty" space on hard disk
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[03:38] <kelvin911> u have 4 items in wine right?
[03:38] <kelvin911> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594410&page=2
[03:38] <fserve> bazhang, im talkin with kelvin911
[03:38] <bazhang> ah sorry fserve
[03:38] <marcel> backtick, i know, it usedto be NTFS
[03:38] <fserve> yes
[03:38] <fserve> 4 itens
[03:38] <kelvin911> what is the 1st one?
[03:38] <kelvin911> i want type and command
[03:38] <linlynx6> ubuntu should release at 6 pm
[03:39] <fserve> the first one
[03:39] <fserve> is a FOLDER
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter
[03:39] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:39] <arvind_khadri> linlynx6, no specific time
[03:39] <fserve> Named progams
[03:39] <kelvin911> how can u choose type as folder?
[03:39] <fserve> dunno
[03:39] <kelvin911> is it new menu or new item?
[03:39] <fserve> new item i think
[03:40] <kelvin911> can u give me the screenshot?
[03:40] <cirkit> Is there a way to add a network manager icon into the gnome panel?
[03:41] <xim> network manager?
[03:41] <xim> which one
[03:41] <arvind_khadri> cirkit, its should be there by default
[03:41] <absnt> Im going to install compizfusion, I have a nvidia card so does it matter if I use Envy or just enable the restricted driver? Which is a better choice/method?
[03:41] <xim> mine is already on there yeah
[03:41] <cirkit> http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[03:41] <undecim> Hey, everyone, what bash command can I use to determine when an account will expire?
[03:41] <cirkit> it's not showing up anymore
[03:41] <xim> as long as your notify widgit is on
[03:41] <cirkit> arvind_khadri: it got deleted from there
[03:41] <sdakak> absnt: Use the restricted device manager
[03:42] <arvind_khadri> cirkit, report a bug ASAP and re-install gnome-panel
[03:42] <absnt> sdakak: k, any difference in the two though?
[03:42] <xim> are you talking about the tray next to the clock with the volume icon?
[03:42] <xim> i dont even have the option to remove my network icon from ther
[03:42] <RB2> I installed HomeUserBackup, but strangely enough, it didn't create a menu item. Does anyone know what the command is?
[03:42] <sdakak> absnt: Yes envy is just a script that fetches the package from nvidia site and installs it, not different from manually installing it.
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[03:42] <_Rambaldi_> is there a command to output to screen not just terminal?
[03:43] <cgentry72> is there a way to download flash videos in firefox from ubuntu?
[03:43] <absnt> sdakak: and what does enabling the restricted dirver do? Is that driver up-to date?
[03:43] <sdakak> absnt: the restricted device manager uses drivers that come through the ubuntu repos. If you are not a bleeding edge user use the ubuntu repos, for eg. when there is a kernel update and you are using envy everything could break.
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, you mean the youtube one
[03:43] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, yea
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, there is a package for that youtube-dl
[03:44] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, cool thank you
[03:44] <sdakak> Sound in my flash videos has suddenly stopped working. I can play the rest of music files in my computer. What could be wrong?
[03:44] <absnt> sdakak: I see, thanks for the info! Do you recommend a specific script for installing compizfusion?
[03:44] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, you are welcome :)
[03:44] <_Rambaldi_> i found that very untrue,firefox delets flv files cgentry72 arvind_khadri
[03:44] <bazhang> cgentry72: it is really great that youtube.dl
[03:44] <sdakak> absnt: Please stick with the official stuff if you want to do other things with your life rather than sit and trouble shoot ubuntu.
[03:44] <bazhang> _Rambaldi_: that is something different
[03:44] <sdakak> absnt: compiz is installed by default.
[03:44] <arvind_khadri> _Rambaldi_, this package downloads it your home folder
[03:44] <sdakak> absnt: just search for compiz in synaptic if you want that advanced gui interface to tweak the settings.
[03:45] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, where is this package, whats the name
[03:45] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | _Rambaldi_
[03:45] <ubotu> _rambaldi_: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2007.08.24-1ubuntu0.1 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[03:45] <Lukstr> what is the minimum processor speed you'd recommend for a media server?
[03:46] <_Rambaldi_> i suppose what i want is to stop flv from being deleted from cache, i am having to use ie7 in virtual box to save the files bazhang, arvind_khadri
[03:46] <solace> hello?
[03:46] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, thank you
[03:46] <sdakak> solace: ?
[03:46] <Danikar> solace: hello
[03:46] <bazhang> that link was provided by the illustrious captain Jack ;]
[03:46] <solace> Yes?
[03:46] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, no probs
[03:46] <sdakak> Can anyone help me with missing sound in flash videos in FIREFOX?
[03:47] <bazhang> _Rambaldi_: get miro or use youtube-dl
[03:47] <Danikar> sdakak: Try reinstalling flash?
[03:47] <shofetim> ?
[03:47] <sdakak> Danikar: nothing else?
[03:47] <solace> Anybody seen live free or die hard, I know they dont use a real OS, But it's easy to notice its ubuntu based, Anyone got a theme like matthews?
[03:47] <Joeseph> Hello everyone again.  I am a recent ubu ntu user who switched from windows.  I love ubuntu.   Unfortunetely, Ubuntu sometimes gives me problems. Like now, ProDifferent proccessess, (notably Xorg) is eating up my cpu for no reason.  I can't even see this while I'm typing my computer is running so slow.  I don't think its effects, as gnome did the same thing, and I had 'no effects' turned on.  I'm on KDE currently, but all my problems occur 
[03:47] <Danikar> sdakak: I don't think he has too many settings you can mess with. That would be the first thing I would try personally.
[03:48] <_Rambaldi_> i often have this problem, usually if i close the other sound sources, sound works sdakak
[03:48] <sdakak> Danikar: Where do you find that .so file? I will delete it and just replace it from the flash site.
[03:48] <bazhang> solace: check gnome-look.org
[03:48] <sdakak> _Rambaldi_: oh.
[03:48] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, whats your ram
[03:48] <pen_> how do I set up ad hoc with one wireless card on ubuntu?
[03:48] <inevaexisted> sdakaka google hardy flash no sound
[03:48] <solace> Is there a search there?
[03:48] <Leonidas_> does anyone know how to get tomboy notes to start at startup? or any program for that matter?
[03:48] <Pici> !hardy
[03:48] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[03:48] <sdakak> inevaexisted: isn't this gutsy?
[03:49] <_Rambaldi_> Leonidas_, add it to the session
[03:49] <inevaexisted> hardy is the new release..
[03:49] <solace> Hardy =D
[03:49] <Arky44> If I were to run a command such as "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop", would that delete any files on my HD, and would I be able to view my GNOME desktop files in the XFCE environment?
[03:49] <solace> But I need help, Is there a search box on gnome-look.org?
[03:49] <_Rambaldi_> Leonidas_, system > pref>sessions
[03:49] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, this program doesn't show up in firefox, should it?
[03:49] <bazhang> solace: this is offtopic here; search and find out or make one yourself using gimp
[03:50] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, nope its a CLI one
[03:50] <juano__> Arky44: no it doesn't delete your files and yes, you will be able to login to Gnome also
[03:50] <Joeseph> Unfortunately, if I don't get this fixed soon, I'm going to have to switch back to windows.... which I don't want to do.- It also seems to be rather random- sometimes my computer will do fine,other times it will move slower than a sloth.  I have a 1.3 Gigahz proccessor  arvind_khadri and 512 megabytes of ram
[03:50] <solace> Got it.
[03:50] <Leonidas_> _Rambaldi_ what's the command though?
[03:50] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, so it just caches them in the home directory then?
[03:50] <Danikar> sdakak: You might find something in here helpful
[03:50] <Danikar> sdakak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-7be182bbefefd03501502a1763c4abb55b29d424
[03:50] <pen_> how do I set up ad hoc with one wireless card on ubuntu?
[03:50] <bazhang> cgentry72: downloads them not caches
[03:50] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, nope it stores/downloads them to there....
[03:50] <_Rambaldi_> for what program Leonidas_
[03:50] <undecim> How can I tell when a user will expire?
[03:51] <cgentry72> got it sorry.. thanks for all your help as usual
[03:51] <juano__> Arky44: that will just install the xfce desktop environment, but won't delete any other one you have installed
[03:51] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, how much is your swap space
[03:51] <scythe> Can anyone help me with some Chipset 610i issues please?
[03:51] <Leonidas_> tomboy nots
[03:51] <jasper> I'm using a chroot, and created a SUID file inside of it (the filesystem is ext3) with user ssmtp:ssmtp. I'm doing this so that the ssmtp user can read ssmtp.conf (which contains user/pass data) but the executing user can't. But when I run the file as another user, it still can't read the file nor does it report the proper UID (if I try the same approach with a shell script that echo's $USER).
[03:51] <Leonidas_> *notes
[03:51] <shane2peru> hey does anyone know where I can find a desktop jigdo file?  I didn't see any on the download page
[03:51] <Arky44> juano__: thanks! But if I log on under the XFCE environment, will I be able to view files I created in the GNOME environment?
[03:51] <ironic_isnt_it> ok i forwarded port 113 and installed oidentd but still getting those two messages couldnt lookup your hostname and no identd (auth) response
[03:51] <prey_alone> I can't update my ruby gems. Error Read-only file system
[03:51]  * scythe please chat me if anyone can help with chipset 610i issues
[03:51] <_Rambaldi_> Leonidas_, tomboy --search
[03:52] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, the command should look like youtube-dl -t http://<the link in the address bar of firefox>
[03:52] <Joeseph> my intel graphics card shows up on lspci, and II havnen't seen any problems with my card online
[03:52] <Leonidas_> _Rambaldi_ let me try brb
[03:52] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, swap space
[03:52] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, oh thanks that would be helpful :)
[03:52] <shane2peru> anyone know where to find the jidgo desktop file?
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, you can use man youtube-dl for more info
[03:53] <shane2peru> It isn't on the download page, just torrent, and iso.
[03:53] <sparr_> im getting really annoyed at having to manage free space on my hard drives.  i wish there was a non-destructuve way to transparently spread a folder across multiple drives
[03:53] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: I would look up how to figure that out, but my computer is running at one of those times were ti is slow: what's t a command to tell you how big your swap space is?
[03:53] <ironic_isnt_it> any ideas? someone can help me?
[03:53] <juano__> Arky44: yes, the files will remain unaltered, by this i mean everything in your home folder, and / will be completely visible from xfce, remember though that the desktop files of GNOME will not be deleted but they will not appear under xfce, i recommend you copy them in a folder inside your home and afterwards once you installed and started using xfce, then copy them back to the xfce desktop
[03:53] <Leonidas_> _Rambaldi_ is that the same command for most programs?
[03:53] <bazhang> shane2peru: for hardy? best give it a while then
[03:53] <shane2peru> bazhang, right, for hardy. :)
[03:53] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, wow so much support.. thanks again
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, dont you remember how much you set the swap space for ....that should be twice your ram
[03:54] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: sorry, everything is comming in in big spurts, so I have to scrooll back up for things I missed
[03:54] <shane2peru> bazhang, what do you mean, is it going to take a bit for it to come out?
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, :)
[03:54] <cgentry72> arvind_khadri, i'm download a video now and it's working
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, thats ok
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> cgentry72, happy Ubuntu-ing
[03:54] <bazhang> shane2peru: why not get a torrent and spread the love?
[03:54] <Arky44> juano__: thanks, that's what I was looking for :)
[03:54] <shane2peru> bazhang, yeah, I probably will just do that, do you know if a jigdo file will be out after final release?
[03:55] <juano__> Arky44: so first step, copy all files over the desktop in gnome, then make folder named something like "mydesktopfiles" , then copy the files inside there, then install xfce, then copy back the files inside "mydesktopfiles" to your xfce desktop
[03:55] <bazhang> shane2peru: without a doubt (or until am I told otherwise) ;]
[03:55] <nxusr>  it is possible to create a cron job to monitor a directory and if file with certain extension is written to it, to delete it?
[03:55] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: I don't remembeare you suggeston  it would help if I made it bigger?
[03:55] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, i feel the problem is your ram....go for a higher one ..is the ram DDR-2 or SDR
[03:55] <rickey> i have just installed kubuntu 804 cant get my amaork or bmpx to play radio streams
[03:56] <shane2peru> bazhang, ok, thanks, I'll get the torrent started now then, and just update that with the jigdo for actual release!
[03:56] <Pelo> rickey, ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:56] <scythe> so no one running 610i?
[03:56] <pen_> how do I set up ad hoc with one wireless card on ubuntu?
[03:56] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: Are you sure? my ram never shows up as being eaten alive, while my cpu is.
[03:57] <bazhang> only a few more hours of redirecting to #ubuntu+1 ! yahooo!
[03:57] <Pelo> scythe, not anymore it's over 18  months old , no longer supported
[03:57] <rickey> ok thanks
[03:57] <evilbug> i can't manage to set AWN to start automatically and the "Start at login" box is checked in the manager.
[03:57] <shane2peru> bazhang, ha ha, looking forward to the hardy release too, oh, I already have it installed. :)
[03:57] <Pelo> !wifi | pen_
[03:57] <ubotu> pen_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:57] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, ok go to System->Administration->System Monitor->Resources there you should find your swap
[03:57] <scythe> pelo, does an old version support it? can i bring support up to gutsy or hardy?
[03:57] <psych> wheres it?
[03:58] <Pelo> evilbug, make sure awn is on ,  and click the save desktop in the last tab of the session thingy
[03:58] <bazhang> watch out shane2peru still not safe to say (hardy, ssshhh!) in here ;]
[03:58] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, i *feel * not sure though...is the ram DDR-2???
[03:58] <shane2peru> Joeseph, or just type 'free' in the terminal window
[03:58] <Pelo> scythe, sorry,  I thought you meant ubuntu 6.10 , nvm me
[03:58] <foraoh> hi
[03:58] <pen_> Pelo: there is no ad hoc links
[03:58] <shane2peru> bazhang, opps. :)
[03:58] <foraoh> okay, the topic just answered my question
[03:58] <bazhang> cya later guys ;]
[03:58] <shane2peru> bazhang, cya, thanks.
[03:59] <scythe> is 610i chipset old? well f-me.n gigabyte released a board with it like 6 months ago
[03:59] <foraoh> still nobody has any clues when 8.04 is going to be out
[03:59] <scythe> m-atx spec
[03:59] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, bye tc
[03:59] <evilbug> Pelo- won't that open up every single application i have open atm?
[03:59] <pen_> Pelo: nvm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc?highlight=%28WifiDocs%29%7C%28AND%29%7C%28ManufacturerModel%29
[03:59] <pen_> Pelo: but the network manager part is not working
[03:59] <Pelo> evilbug, close those you don'T want to start at boot
[03:59] <evilbug> Pelo- thanks.
[03:59] <Pelo> pen_,  I know diddly about wifi
[03:59] <pen_> Pelo: I don't want to use the CLI commends, because this is rare for me to do
[04:00] <mike> l
[04:00] <eZe> !channels
[04:00] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:00] <eZe> ty bot
[04:00] <Joeseph> arvind_khadri: I'm not sure, but I feel there is something wrong with Xorg, though I don't know for sure, as it is the programing eathing ridiculous amounts of cpu- as much as 50% just by movmaking a box with the mouse
[04:00] <Pelo> pen_, not sure what you mean, how many comands are there ? make them in to a bash script
[04:01] <euronymous> When will heron final be available on torrent?
[04:01] <owen1> what's the repository of vinagre? i am trying to get in in xubuntu.
[04:01] <pen_> Pelo: I don't understand why the commends are only teaching you how to join a ad hoc instead of creating one?
[04:01] <Popoi> GO GO HARDY HERON!!
[04:01] <Pelo> euronymous, it's the best way to distribute it , so yes
[04:01] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, hmm ...then try installing from a diff cd
[04:01] <jburd> euronymous: Is it already available via http?
[04:01] <shane2peru> Joeseph, this can happen with swap not being enabled
[04:01] <pen_> Pelo: do you need two or more wireless card to set up ad hoc?
[04:01] <Pelo> pen_, I wouldn'T know , I didn't make the guide
[04:01] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, purge X and try one
[04:02] <Pelo> pen_,  I do not know anything about wifi , you are asking the wrong person
[04:02] <euronymous> jburd: I mean the final release. I wanted to know when that candidate's torrent will be released.
[04:02] <arvind_khadri> Joeseph, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg
[04:02] <scythe> if ANYONE can just get onboard LAN working on a 610i chipset, id love you.
[04:02] <pen_> Pelo: oh
[04:02] <shane2peru> arvind_khadri, won't he need to be out of X to do that?
[04:02] <arvind_khadri> shane2peru, nope
[04:02] <shane2peru> arvind_khadri, cool
[04:02] <Pelo> scythe, don' tyou need to enable it in the bios ?
[04:02] <shane2peru> arvind_khadri, that is why I love linux. :)
[04:02] <sdaka1> why is the room empty?
[04:03] <scythe> it is
[04:03] <scythe> tried it with Boot Rom enabled and siabled also
[04:03] <arvind_khadri> shane2peru, :)
[04:03] <scythe> the connection will recieve packets
[04:03] <scythe> but wont send
[04:03] <scythe> no matter what i do, ping says its sending
[04:03] <mike> hi all
[04:03] <thebigham> I really need help with my wireless connection. It can barely connect to my wireless network. And when it's finally connected, the connection is very unstable and slow.
[04:03] <scythe> the GUI shows no mackets sent
[04:03] <scythe> and tracerout cant leave localhost
[04:03] <Pelo> !enter | scythe
[04:03] <ubotu> scythe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:03] <owen1> can i get vinagre (vnc client) on xubunt?
[04:03] <foraoh> 57 min left for hardy
[04:03] <Pelo> scythe, try asking in #networking maybe
[04:03] <arvind_khadri> ok gtg
[04:04] <scythe> will do
[04:04] <arvind_khadri> bye ppl
[04:04] <scythe> bye, and thank you
[04:04] <Pelo> owen1,  probably, xubuntu supports gnome apps,   check in the repos
[04:04] <shane2peru> owen1, yes, many gnome apps can be installed with xubuntu
[04:04] <foraoh> when it happens you guys will change your thought
[04:05] <sdaka1> foraoh: what are you messing around with?
[04:05] <owen1> shane2peru: Pelo: apt-get can't find it.
[04:05] <Pelo> Owner, what release are you on ?
[04:05] <_Rambaldi_> foraoh, do you know what time they are running off, coz its been 24 for a while now
[04:05] <shane2peru> owen1, no, aptitude has a search, aptitude search package
[04:05] <rich_phoenix> hi
[04:05] <owen1> Pelo: 7.04
[04:05] <Pelo> owen1, you'll have to wait until you upgrade to 8.04
[04:06] <owen1> Pelo: is xubuntu get updated just like ubuntu?
[04:06] <Pelo> _Rambaldi_, it's  5 am in the UK right now , I think you can let the cannonical ppl have a shower and breakfast
[04:06] <cirkit> I already have gnome installed, but for some reason gnome-desktop wasn't installed ... isn't gnome-desktop part of gnome already?
[04:06] <shane2peru> ok, I'm out of here, cya
[04:06] <Pelo> owen1, yes
[04:07] <Pelo> cirkit, shuldbe ,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will install everything you need
[04:07] <_Rambaldi_> someone foraoh said 57 min to go thats why i ask Pelo
[04:07] <cirkit> Pelo: ok
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow>  No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:07] <Nick123> Can;t get my wireless driver to install on my laptop in ubunutu 7.1
[04:07] <sdaka1> I re-installed flash. Still I don't get sound in flash videos in firefox. Other music plays fine.
[04:07] <bjv> How do you apt-get install an old version of a package?
[04:07] <Flannel> _Rambaldi_: #ubuntu-release-party is a good place to go to wait/etc
[04:08] <Pelo> _Rambaldi_,  I expect he was counting down to midnight where ever he is
[04:08] <sdaka1> Jack_Sparrow: ^ ?
[04:08] <sdaka1> Pelo: I  counted down to midnight UTC :(
[04:08] <_Rambaldi_> that makes sense Pelo
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[04:08] <[1]Joeseph> Alright, now I'm on a computer that actually works....
[04:08] <Nick123> Can;t get my wireless driver to install on my laptop in ubunutu 7.1, can someone help?
[04:08] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, whre are baker and howlands ilsands is that the international date line ?
[04:09] <jericho> does anybody knows at what time will Hardy be available to download?
[04:09] <sdaka1> Pelo: probably UTC + 23?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Pelo, the date line
[04:09] <Flannel> jericho: no.  No one does.
[04:09] <_Rambaldi_> i had no idea such channels existed Flannel
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:09] <xim> i wanna encrypt my files, does anyone have a fav utility?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> jericho: #ubuntu-release-party in the meantime
[04:09] <jericho> woooot a party
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> how do it get a 686 optimized kernel ?
[04:10] <sdaka1> sound not working in firefox - flash videos. I re-installed it from the repos. The video plays fine. Other sound works too. anyone?
[04:10] <sdaka1> hvgotcodes: !smp
[04:10] <Pelo> hvgotcodes, stick to the generic
[04:10] <sdaka1> !smp > hvgotcodes
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[04:10] <hvgotcodes> sdaka1: what?
[04:10] <milly1234> hi, I just added a tv tuner card to my computer and as soon as that worked I no longer am able to use my usb webcam, I am running Gutsy, the webcam worked before that but now it does not, anyone have a clue what might be causing this?
[04:11] <Flannel> hvgotcodes: generic is optimized
[04:11] <sdaka1> !smp
[04:11] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[04:11] <hvgotcodes> sdaka1: is that a general no to symmetric multi proc?
[04:11] <blacklabelsk8> so is hardy dropping midnight tonight?
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> blacklabelsk8: no.
[04:11] <milly1234> or what sorts of things I should be looking for
[04:11] <Pelo> lol
[04:11] <blacklabelsk8> bummer :\
[04:11] <[1]Joeseph> arvind_khadri: are you still here? I'm back
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow>  No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> For all Ubuntu 8.04 release anticipation, please head to #ubuntu-release-party.  #ubuntu is a support channel ONLY, even during exciting times.  :)
[04:11] <sdaka1> tonyyarusso: you are waiting to jump on people :)
[04:11] <Nick123> Can;t get my wireless driver to install on my laptop in ubunutu 7.1, can someone help?
[04:11] <[1]Joeseph> I don't see you, never mind
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> sdaka1: 'tis my job :)
[04:12] <blacklabelsk8> shit haha, get an op to change the topic then, dont jump on me for asking a common question?
[04:12]  * Pelo is just gonna sit here and laugh at tonyyarusso having to answer every time someone asks about hardy 
[04:12] <hvgotcodes> flannel: i thought generic was 386
[04:12] <[1]Joeseph> shane2peru: how do I enable swap?\
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> sdaka1, please be polite
[04:12] <Flannel> hvgotcodes: No, -386 is generic, generic is optimized for all x86 types.
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> blacklabelsk8: .... It's in the topic already.
[04:12] <pedrosanta> My Americas Army keeps gettin from fullscreen to window mode, and even sometimes the screen blacks Does anyone have it too or knows how to solve it?
[04:13]  * blacklabelsk8 stands corrected
[04:13] <blacklabelsk8> well thanks for the info at least
[04:13] <hvgotcodes> Flannel: hmmm ok
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> :)
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> blacklabelsk8, did you read the topic
[04:13] <scythe> People in channel #networking sent me back here
[04:14] <cgentry72> ubuntu rules !!!
[04:14] <u007-1> hi, i thought ubuntu 8 is releasing today? :P
[04:14] <u007-1> the numbers has gone :P
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> u007-1: #ubuntu-release-party please
[04:14]  * Pelo sends scythe  to #networking right back ,  hey this is like pingponi 
[04:14] <Pelo> ping pong
[04:14] <scythe> my intergrated NIC can recieve but not send packets. its on the 610i chipset. any tips?
[04:14] <XceII> sooooooooo, is it on schedule ??
[04:15] <scythe> #networking had no ideas and sent me back here
[04:15] <Pelo> scythe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and www.ubuntuforums.org ,  for research not for posting
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> XceII, Please read the channel topic
[04:15] <XceII> I c
[04:15] <XceII> ok, ill go back in my hole.
[04:15] <twistage> So what time is it coming out?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:15] <twistage> kidding
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow>  No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:15]  * tonyyarusso wins
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[04:15] <sdaka1> tonyyarusso: :)
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[04:16] <rich_phoenix> hi
[04:16] <scythe> ubuntu support is fucked
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Welcome rich_phoenix
[04:16] <rich_phoenix> thanks!
[04:16] <ofir> hello
[04:16] <sdaka1> scythe you are welcome
[04:16] <cgentry72> if i typed in a command for a program where is it usually stores, like pidgin etc
[04:16] <XceII> im on it right now, the thing actually S C R E A M S.
[04:16] <ofir> does anyone know what time hardy update will be available?
[04:16] <Twistage> hahah
[04:16] <Pici> ofir: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[04:16] <Pici> ofir, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:17] <sdaka1> cgentry72: /usr/bin
[04:17] <ofir> ok, thanks
[04:17] <cgentry72> sdaka1, cool thanks
[04:17]  * Pelo feels bad about not being able to hehlp scythe , but what the heck
[04:17] <[1]Joeseph> willl sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg uninstall, then reinstall x-org?
[04:17] <ali1234> cgentry72: read 'man which'
[04:18] <XceII> Pici:  when it is released, will the kernel be the same as the update?
[04:18] <smith> lmao i am banned from #ubuntu party
[04:18] <Pelo> Joeseph, no,  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will
[04:18] <smith> i was making fun of ubotu
[04:18] <Artemis3> For the 4th time, and second year, would you mind providing a torrent? Ah well i know ill be ignored and or bashed again, and again we swim... Your little trick didn't work :P
[04:18] <Pici> XceII: As the update?
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[04:18] <mayakuza> is there someone here that can help me whit compiz fusion?
[04:18] <sdaka1> smith: they are protective of bots there
[04:18] <Pelo> [1]Joeseph, and please take that crap off before you nick it,s hellish to type
[04:18] <XceII> the last kernel update
[04:18] <Pelo> Joeseph, no,  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will
[04:18] <cgentry72> i don't see pidgin though listed in /usr/bin
[04:18] <smith> hes my bitch, he should respect me
[04:19] <wubrgamer> where do i download 8.04?
[04:19] <Pici> XceII: In hardy currently?
[04:19] <sdaka1> cgentry72: 'locate pidgin'
[04:19] <XceII> ya
[04:19] <wubrgamer> is the iso made already?
[04:19] <Pici> wubrgamer, Hardy will be released some time during the 24th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:19] <sdaka1> wubrgamer: where do we?
[04:19] <Pelo> cgentry72,  in the terminal tyupe locate pidgin
[04:19] <smith> i reall cant get banned from this one too
[04:19] <Flannel> Artemis3: fourth time and second year?  What?
[04:19] <Fa> locate pidgin
[04:19] <Pelo> wubrgamer, not out yet ,  ubuntu.com tomorrow
[04:19] <smith> that would not be good
[04:19] <Fa> didn't work
[04:19] <Fa> jk
[04:19] <Pici> XceII: Yes, it'll be the same.
[04:19] <Fa> lol
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> !etiquette | smith
[04:19] <ubotu> smith: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[04:19] <Pici> !final | XceII
[04:19] <ubotu> XceII: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[04:19] <cgentry72> Pelo, thats cool thanks
[04:19] <Joeseph> Hey, anyone wanna help me instead of waiting for the new release? willl sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg uninstall, then reinstall x-org
[04:19] <Joeseph> ?
[04:19] <XceII> ok tx, hey fa
[04:20] <Fa> hey
[04:20] <Fa> i'm downloading ubuntu 8 on friday
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[04:20] <Fa> waiting for the final relase
[04:20] <Flannel> !away > dman|away
[04:20] <Painless> busy in here... anyone would think there's a new release due or something
[04:20] <sdaka1> !away
[04:20] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubotu Guidelines»
[04:20] <XceII> im  already running it fa, have been for a month'
[04:20] <Pelo> Painless,  this is the usual,  actualy a lot less troubleshooting then usual
[04:20] <milly1234> I am running Ubuntu 7.10 and just installed a TV Tuner card and now my Webcam stopped working, it doesn't even show it under the multimedia systems selector in the video part, though it does show its usb mic, it also shows up when I enter "lsusb" in a terminal but nothing else shows it or can use it, anyone have a clue what might be causing this?
[04:21] <Fa> i was running the beta but i wanted to centos
[04:21] <Fa> i'm on windblows right now
[04:21] <mayakuza> can someone here help me whit compiz fusion?
[04:21] <Artemis3> Flannel, Swimming in the pool.
[04:21] <XceII> what does centos have that ubuntu dont
[04:21] <Painless> Pelo: I could see from the userlist when I joined the channel :)
[04:21] <Fa> Selinux
[04:21] <Starnestommy> XceII: this channel is not about centos
[04:21] <XceII> oh
[04:21] <Pelo> XceII, don'T know we donT use centos
[04:22] <Joeseph> Anybody want to stop just waiting for the new ubuntu and help me?   *Threatening*I'll switch back to windows
[04:22] <Fa> centos is pretty much redhat
[04:22] <wubrgamer> ubuntu doesn't have selinux???????///
[04:22] <Pelo> Joeseph, no,  sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg --purge && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg will
[04:22] <XceII> i dont either, dont fret, im ubuntu bought
[04:22] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:22] <Pelo> Joeseph, isnT' that what you wanted ?
[04:22] <Fa> ubuntu has selinux?
[04:22] <wubrgamer> idk
[04:22] <XceII> yep
[04:22] <Flannel> wubrgamer: Yes it does.  It uses AppArmor as default, but SELinux is available.
[04:22] <Pelo> Fa, next release
[04:22] <Fa> lol where?
[04:22] <Painless> its in 8.04
[04:22] <wubrgamer> aah, thought so
[04:22] <Pelo> Joeseph, wht is y our issue ?
[04:22] <milly1234> anyone here a video input guru :( please
[04:22] <Fa> oh i guess you have to turn it on
[04:23] <Joeseph> Pelo: Xorg eats up the cpu
[04:23] <Pelo> milly1234,  jsut state your issue
[04:23] <Pelo> Joeseph, turn off compiz
[04:23] <milly1234> I am running Ubuntu 7.10 and just installed a TV Tuner card and now my Webcam stopped working, it doesn't even show it under the multimedia systems selector in the video part, though it does show its usb mic, it also shows up when I enter "lsusb" in a terminal but nothing else shows it or can use it, anyone have a clue what might be causing this?
[04:23] <Joeseph> pelo: don't have compiz
[04:23] <Starnestommy> Joeseph: did you enable desktop/visual effects?
[04:24] <Joeseph> Starnestommy: yes, but it eats up cpu when I have them disabled also
[04:24] <Pelo> Joeseph,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , let it pick the video driver and donT' change any of the default answer provided unless you absolutely know better
[04:24] <Pelo> mayakuza, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[04:25] <mayakuza> i'm new to ubunto but can't gett compiz to work
[04:25] <Pelo> milly1234, my guess it that your tvcard is now hoging /dev/video0 ,  which is wat your webcam was using , not sure how to fix it ,   try reconfuring the the webcam
[04:25] <Pelo> !webcam | milly1234
[04:25] <ubotu> milly1234: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:25] <Joeseph> Pelo: alrighty, just for your info, I have a 1.3 gighz procesor, and 512 meg of ram, an intel graphics card which I have not seen very much trouble with when searching online.
[04:25] <linkinxp> !compiz mayakuza
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz mayakuza - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Pelo> mayakuza, whatvideo card ?
[04:25] <evilbug> issue: i completely uninstalled pidgin via synaptic and it's still in my Applications>Internet :| i go into terminal and run "sudo apt-get remove pidgin" and it says it's not installed.
[04:25] <linkinxp> !compiz | mayakuza
[04:25] <ubotu> mayakuza: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[04:25] <milly1234> thanks, I willl check that out
[04:25] <evilbug> but if i click on it,it runs.
[04:26] <Pelo> Joeseph, you just got a badly configure X probably
[04:26] <Starnestommy> evilbug: did you ever install it from somewhere other than the package manager?
[04:26] <Gary_inNYC> evilbug, it's probably just the entry in your menu...
[04:26] <evilbug> Starnestommy- i did,i compiled one.
[04:26] <jgoo> hrm. Installed ubuntu on a thinkpad, and afterwards the user booted into windows, and ran the lenovo 'updates'. This proceeded to trash GRUB. What is the best action?
[04:26] <csdepadmin> net
[04:26] <evilbug> Starnestommy- but i thought it just overwrote the previous one.
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> !grub | jgoo
[04:26] <Joeseph> Pelo: thank you,  I will run that command and see what happens... its odd though, it only happens sometimes, when my computer acts slow
[04:26] <ubotu> jgoo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:27] <Starnestommy> evilbug: you'll need to go into the directory where the sources are for it, then run sudo make uninstall or sudo make deinstall
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> jgoo: the RUAIW instructions should work.
[04:27] <Pelo> jgoo,  ,  download the supergrub cd , and use that to fix stage one in grub the mbr bit
[04:27] <MrPeepers310> hey i need some help i cant get the svn for gwenview to run on eclipse. I already dl'ed the plugin for svn capabilities but whenever i choose it it just does nothing
[04:27] <jgoo> I'd like to get XP up, first, as this is something the user needs, and then later worry about linux - the machine doesn't have floppy which is the only reason I ask as I cannot do a fdisk /mbr
[04:27] <gustavo_> jgoo: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/
[04:27] <LainIwak1ra> Can someone teach me how to find where a program is installed?
[04:27] <evilbug> Starnestommy- what if i deleted the actual folder and everything?
[04:27] <LainIwak1ra> through apt-get
[04:27] <Starnestommy> LainIwak1ra: dpkg -L packagename
[04:27] <jgoo> aaaaah gustavo_ good call
[04:27] <gustavo_> jgoo: :)
[04:27] <LainIwak1ra> Starnestommy: Thank you.
[04:28] <Starnestommy> evilbug: then you'll have to manually find and remove the files
[04:28] <Twistage> Is crossover about the best solution for windows emulation? (i understand its wine)
[04:28] <Pelo> LainIwak1ra, that's not how linux works your program's files are all over
[04:28] <gustavo_> jgoo: or u can use a win xp CD to restore the win mbr
[04:28] <evilbug> Starnestommy- i'm a nub and don't know where it would be installed because i would've done that :(
[04:28] <Pelo> Twistage, crossover is commercial and you have to pay for it , wine is free
[04:28] <Flannel> !filesystem | LainIwak1ra
[04:28] <ubotu> LainIwak1ra: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[04:28] <Pelo> later folks
[04:28] <Starnestommy> evilbug: probably in several places in /usr/local
[04:28] <Twistage> Pelo: As far as functionality though
[04:28] <darren_> i have triede to restore the mbr of windows and i stil have the same problem
[04:28] <darren_> lol
[04:29] <Starnestommy> evilbug: run "locate pidgin" to find where it would be
[04:29] <jgoo> So, I load the live CD into the live session?
[04:29] <Gary_inNYC> Twistage, I run Office 2007, Pokerstars and Guild Wars in Wine... it's very good for my purposes if that matters
[04:29] <jasper> I've created a SUID script (4755 and test:test) on an ext3 filesystem (in a chroot). But when I run the script as another user, it doesn't report the proper UID. I'm having the script execute 'ps -o ruid -o euid -o suid -o fname | grep test.sh' which comes up with 3 x the UID of the user executing the SUID, but not the script's owner (per the SUID). Does anyone know what I'm missing here?
[04:29] <evilbug> Starnestommy- any command to have them deleted directly from terminal?
[04:29] <jrib> jasper: you can't suid scripts
[04:30] <Starnestommy> evilbug: if you had the sources that you used to install with, you could cd to their directory and run sudo make uninstall or sudo make deinstall
[04:30] <tawt> can a nVidia GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB graphics card support advance compiz graphics?
[04:30] <supersako> what time exactly will 8.04 be out tomorrow?
[04:30] <Twistage> Gary_inNYC: Alright good
[04:30] <evilbug> i see
[04:30] <Starnestommy> supersako: there is no exact time
[04:30] <evilbug> Starnestommy- thanks.
[04:30] <gustavo_> supersako: nobody knows :P
[04:30] <jasper> jrib: Ah. :)
[04:30] <supersako> DAMNIT!!!
[04:30] <supersako> i want it like now...
[04:30] <Starnestommy> supersako: but it will be out within the next 24 hours or so
[04:30] <supersako> :)
[04:31] <gustavo_> supersako: you can install the RC and dist-upgrade.. it would be a good proxy for the final release
[04:31] <GoetzC> I will not ask about time :) Why Howland Island??
[04:32] <jasper> jrib: I also tried to SUID an executable, /usr/sbin/ssmtp (to send mail from inside of my chroot). And then having it read a file with user/pass information on the mailserver (hence the SUID, so others can't read the user/pass). But when I execute that as SUID it can't read the /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf (test:test with 0700) either.
[04:32] <dmsuperman> Right so XFX's website isn't loading, where else might I be able to get my audio driver for my new XFX motherboard?
[04:32] <jgoo> http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/ << I have the 'typical' ubuntu installed after windows XP - so those commands work?
[04:32] <jgoo> root(hd0, 1)
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> GoetzC: It's right next to the Int'l dateline.
[04:32] <cab86> hello, anyone around?
[04:32] <grhluna> hey cab86
[04:32] <tawt> can a nVidia GeForce 8600M GT 256 MB graphics card support advance compiz graphics?
[04:32] <jgoo> gustavo_: when I do this, using a terminal, and reinstall grub, this means I will get the same ubuntu / windows choice as before
[04:33] <juano__> tawt: for sure
[04:33] <jbur1> tawt: yes
[04:33] <tawt> nice
[04:33] <jgoo> gustavo_: but it also means that, again, at the next point where updates are installed, this user might loose their laptop usage?
[04:33] <tawt> i'm looking at laptops at system76
[04:33] <gustavo_> jgoo: i think so..
[04:33] <Joeseph> just had an epiphany:  Does Xorg configure keyboards too?
[04:33] <joe___> ooh, ubuntu64 out yet?
[04:33] <grhluna> get the new driver you might need to reconfig xorg
[04:33] <joe___> or will it be out at the same time?
[04:34] <gustavo_> joe___: same time
[04:34] <sushith> Hi
[04:34] <cab86> hello grhluna,  quick question...  i'm looking to completely remove the ati drivers... therefore i'm getting rid of anything with the fglrx in its name...   but I also noticed that there are linux-restricted-modules installed for 4 different kernels in my system
[04:34] <cab86> is it alright to remove some of those?
[04:34] <sushith> How many hours more for the Hardy Heron release ?
[04:34] <Starnestommy> sushith: there is no set time
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:34] <Joeseph> Is it possible xorg might be going crazy because I have a wireless keyboard?
[04:34] <Siropel> sushith, just a few :)
[04:35] <GoetzC> thanks <tonyyarusso>
[04:35] <stroyan> Joeseph:  If you have a crazy wireless keyboard.....
[04:35] <joe___> tonyyarusso: but who do we know on Baker and Howland Islands who can look at a clock and precisely (by the second) notify us?!!
[04:35] <sushith> alright thanks guys, i am very eager to use it
[04:35] <Joeseph> stroyan: just brainstorming....
[04:35] <rickey> i got this message////Type 'kubuntu-restricted-extras.' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <Cpudan80> Hello hello
[04:36] <U9527> Cpudan80, welcome
[04:36] <rickey> i know i hafe to go in and fix this
[04:36] <Cpudan80> So --- am I going to be able to do an apt-get upgrade at the stroke of midnight ?
[04:36] <rickey> but i forgot how
[04:36] <Fdisk93> gustavo: you could install grub in the root partition then use bootpart.exe to and have boot menu under xp to boot linux
[04:36] <Cpudan80> so.... in 25 mins more or less ?
[04:36] <gustavo_> Fdisk93: its for jgoo, not me :P
[04:36] <gustavo_> Fdisk93: but thx
[04:36] <Fdisk93> oh sorry
[04:36] <Fdisk93> np
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> joe___: teh magical intarnets
[04:37] <Fdisk93> jgoo: you could install grub in the root partition then use bootpart.exe to and have boot menu under xp to boot linux
[04:37] <cdm10> How do I release/renew my IP?
[04:37] <dmsuperman> I can't get xfxforce.com to load, where else can I get linux drivers for my xfx mobo from?
[04:37] <undecim> cdm10: dhclient
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> cdm10: sudo dhcli<tab><enter>
[04:37] <cdm10> thanks
[04:37] <jgoo> Fdisk93: thanks, I was just reading backscroll.... ok - I am doing what it says on that link I posted (http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2007/03/10/how-to-restore-grub-using-the-ubuntu-live-cd/) and I get setup (hd0) unable to mount partition...
[04:38] <baudelaire> I love Ubuntu.
[04:38] <dmsuperman> baudelaire, me too, and it loves us back
[04:38] <baudelaire> I'm a full convert, have been since gutsy
[04:38] <Painless> same here... was pulled to it from Gentoo, which I adored
[04:39] <jgoo> Fdisk93: any ideas on how to list the partitions? this is a laptop, maybe there is an additional partition? *$(*(*$(*$ updates screwing the boot record... wtf
[04:39] <baudelaire> It took me a long time to get into linux full on -- I was a Mandrake 7.0 user back in the day-- but very casually
[04:39] <U9527> Cpudan80, so in another 25 mins, hardy will be out, you sure
[04:39] <Fdisk93> jgoo: can you boot xp right now ?
[04:39] <baudelaire> Painless, what made you switch from gentoo?
[04:39] <jgoo> no Fdisk93... I will see if there is an XP cd around though
[04:39] <gustavo_> i moved from debian to gentoo.. and than to ubuntu..
[04:40] <zack_> hey im running 7.10 x64 and installed the restricted nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-new 100.14.19, Im thinking of upgrading to the Nvidia 169.12 drivers from there website anyone have suggestions on which is will give better profomance
[04:40] <Painless> baudelaire: I started using linux back in the 0.9.x kernel releases and have had plenty of 'doing everything myself' experience... I just loved a distro which took away the hard work
[04:40] <Fdisk93> jgoo: is private msg ok ?
[04:40] <jgoo> Fdisk93: more than welcome!
[04:40] <gustavo_> i used to like gentoo.. but apt-get is much faster than compiling packages with emerge :)
[04:40] <grhluna> cab86: try #ubuntu+1
[04:40] <grhluna> they want me to make breakfast here
[04:40] <Painless> I did get fed up with package install times on gentoo... and broken packages
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[04:40] <grhluna> be right back
[04:40] <Rafabe> hi
[04:40] <Painless> not to mention 2 day installs
[04:40] <Rafabe> hi
[04:40] <Lardarse> jgoo: the fdisk command has an option that will display partitions, but i don't know which one, now would i recommend casual use of the fdisk command
[04:40] <cab86> actualy im asking rightnow to see if the xubuntu guys know about it
[04:40] <baudelaire> I hear ya Painless
[04:41] <Lardarse> nor would i*
[04:41] <cab86> oops, kubuntu guys
[04:41] <gustavo_> i learned a lot with gentoo... but yes, nowadays i dont have patience to install it
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[04:41] <milly1234> it seems my video issue is due to gspca not working with v4l-dvb stuff, I wasn't sure if I understood it exactly, but it looks like there is not a solution out there or I missed it when I looked for one
[04:41] <james__> do we know roughly when the final release images will be available? i'd like to have some CDs ready for the australian release party.
[04:41] <Rafabe> what is the Linux equivalent of the "edit" command in DOS? I need to check a conf file because Ubuntu's install is failing and booting me to console
[04:41] <Cpudan80> U9527: No idea
[04:41] <Starnestommy> Rafabe: vim or nano
[04:41] <Painless> Linux needs to be as easy to install as windows for it to reach popularity with the masses... I feel that ubuntu goes a long way towards that dream
[04:41] <dweebgirl> what's the best chat tool to use
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[04:42] <james__> Windows IS NOT easy to install!
[04:42] <mayakuza> what was the compiz chanel agein_
[04:42] <Lardarse> dweebgirl: depends on the chat protocol
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> Rafabe: nano is probably a bit more friendly to an edit user.
[04:42] <Starnestommy> mayakuza: #compiz
[04:42] <Rafabe> starnes: neither work
[04:42] <U9527> dweebgirl, xchat
[04:42] <dweebgirl> well, x-chat leaves a lot to be desired
[04:42] <gustavo_> Rafabe: try vi
[04:42] <Rafabe> "not found". The OS is not installed yet, it's failing during install
[04:42] <U9527> dweebgirl, konversation
[04:42] <Starnestommy> Rafabe: put "sudo" before the command
[04:42] <dweebgirl> ok
[04:42] <Rafabe> I tried vi too. I googled a bit before coming here
[04:42] <dweebgirl> konversation that's the one
[04:42] <dweebgirl> i want a nice black background
[04:42] <Painless> I like irssi myself, but it's personal taste as always
[04:42] <dweebgirl> and white tex
[04:43] <dweebgirl> *text
[04:43] <dweebgirl> white on black
[04:43] <Lardarse> Rafabe: if you know how to use vi, then vim will do most of what you know (and i believe that you can turn off the wim extras)
[04:43] <baudelaire> I think Ubuntu on the business side is the next fronteir to conqueror.  What do you guys think?
[04:43] <Rafabe> painless: from what I heard Wibi will make Ubuntu's install not a nightmare (if you have Windows)
[04:43]  * tonyyarusso is also an irssi user, with white on black
[04:43] <dweebgirl> ok
[04:43] <dweebgirl> good
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: We use it on servers at work already :)
[04:43] <dweebgirl> white on black
[04:43] <Rafabe> landarse: but none of these commands are working
[04:43] <dweebgirl> hear that rich
[04:43] <Cpudan80> Painless: Windows is a real pita to install if you have a reasonably complex system
[04:43] <Lardarse> dweebgirl: any irc client cna do any colour scheme
[04:43] <Painless> Rafabe: yup... a friend tried it on the beta the other day, said it was a dream to install
[04:43] <rich_phoenix> hi
[04:43] <baudelaire> oh yeah, tonyyarusso?
[04:43] <komputes> Does anyone know how I can set gnome-terminal to open a new tab instead of a new window, when clicking on the icon/launcher???
[04:44] <Rafabe> the prompt says "initramfs" which must mean limited commands
[04:44] <Lardarse> Rafabe: "sudo apt-get install vim" ?
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[04:44] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: Yeah - the majority is Solaris (yuck), but all of the new machines I've installed got Ubuntu.
[04:44] <Painless> Cpudan80: agreed... but in most cases its easy... there will always be tough installs for any OS
[04:44] <baudelaire> wow
[04:44] <Lardarse> Rafabe: but use nanao, because there's less of a learning curve
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[04:44] <dek> I need to make a script to do poff dsl-provider, but only sudo can do that. How can I workaround this?
[04:44] <Rafabe> landarse: read my lips: THE OS IS NOT INSTALLED. I AM FAILING TO GET IT INSTALLED, IT'S BOOTING ME TO A CONSOLE AS SOON AS IT LOADS "VMLINUZ" AND NONE OF THE COMMANDS ARE AVAILABLE
[04:44] <Starnestommy> Rafabe: try the alternate cd
[04:45] <Lardarse> no need to shout
[04:45] <Rafabe> starnes: yeah, but that won't be until tomorrow :(
[04:45] <baudelaire> I came across this site, anyone else hear of them?  I'm pretty sure they advocate Ubuntu: http://www.linuxforsmallbusiness.com
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: check with your LoCo for efforts to expand Ubuntu usage in your area though
[04:45] <kittykitty> rafabe, which kernel are you loading?
[04:45] <fdkrew> any admins here?
[04:45] <Rafabe> land: sorry
[04:45] <Falkman> I have a question, I just got ubuntu 8.04, and my wireless isn't working(intel 3945abg) the wireless networks show up and everything, and when I click on one and enter my pass phrase, it doesnt work at all. Anyone know why? (It works out of the box on ubuntu 7.10, why not on this?)
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> fdkrew: what for?
[04:45] <baudelaire> LoCo?
[04:45] <Rafabe> kitty: 7.04
[04:45] <Rafabe> got a new computer
[04:45] <kittykitty> livecd?
[04:45] <Rafabe> yeah
[04:45] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: Local community team.  What country are you in?
[04:45] <kittykitty> what is the prompt for this shell look like?
[04:45] <fdkrew> to unban me so i can join ubuntu party channel
[04:46] <baudelaire> USA
[04:46] <Rafabe> getting a "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" error
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> fdkrew: that would be a question for #ubuntu-ops then
[04:46] <baudelaire> Tennessee
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[04:46] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: state?
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> ah
[04:46] <Twistage> Gosh, all these problems that people are encountering are freaking me out about upgrading.
[04:46] <fdkrew> ok
[04:46] <Rafabe> kitty: it says "initramfs"
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[04:46] <kittykitty> i forget, the cd uses grub right?
[04:46] <neeto> Is there a way to automatically mount everything in fstab?
[04:46] <Rafabe> yes it does, but I'm not getting far enough to use it
[04:46] <Arky44> Is there a way to quickly change sessions without logging out (for example, switching from Xfce to GNOME, and vice versa)?
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TennesseeTeam
[04:47] <baudelaire> I'm trying to swtich to Ubuntu fulltime on my business machine
[04:47] <baudelaire> ty
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[04:47] <Starnestommy> Arky44: try sudo mount -a
[04:47] <jacobu9> Anybody know exactly what time/timezone Hardy launches?
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[04:47] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:47] <stroyan> neeto:  mount -a will get all the automounts
[04:47] <fdkrew> Any one here is using a Dell Latitude D600? anyone?
[04:47] <neeto> stroyan: thanks man
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[04:47] <Painless> neeto: mount -a will mount everything in fstab
[04:47] <dmsuperman> Where can I get linux drivers for nForce for 680i LT SLI chipset?
[04:47] <Arky44> Starnestommy: so, like sudo mount -a xfce
[04:48] <dmsuperman> nvidia.com says it can't find any when i do a search
[04:48] <fdkrew>  Any one here is using a Dell Latitude D600? anyone?
[04:48] <pragmaticpie> Hello.
[04:48] <Starnestommy> Arky44: er, I think I got you confused with someone else.  You'll need to log otu then back in
[04:48] <Starnestommy> *out
[04:48] <pragmaticpie> Anyone here successfully synced a Treo 650 with Kpilot over USB?
[04:48] <Arky44> Starnestommy :P sorry
[04:48] <baudelaire> That's a great site tonyyarusso -- I didn't know something like that existed
[04:48] <pragmaticpie> The daemon's crashing every time I try it.
[04:49] <Rafabe> is Heron going to be released midnight tonigt (ie, in 15 mins on the east coast) or in 24 hours?
[04:49] <Lardarse> when it's done
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> baudelaire: they might even have an IRC channel too.  Also check whether there will be a release party in your area.
[04:49] <Rafabe> maybe I'll just stop trying to install 7.04 and wait for Heron
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[04:49] <Kev3124> do you think its worth it to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?
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[04:49] <rich_freecomm> ok :)
[04:49] <neeto> Kev3124: Not yet. wait
[04:49] <gaspipe1> night all
[04:49] <Kev3124> ok
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[04:49] <Qster> i have 8.04 really nice
[04:49] <ApOgEE-> can anybody help me please, where to Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M driver on ati.com? i can't find it
[04:49] <max> hi Im download hary heron is it beta ?
[04:50] <neeto> rofl
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> max: For the next few hours, yes.
[04:50] <neeto> hahaha
[04:50] <u007-1> neeto - its not that stable yet?
[04:50] <Kev3124> how long should i wait?
[04:50] <max> ok
[04:50] <neeto> u007-1: I think it comes out tonight
[04:50] <Arky44> Hello all :) Is there a way to quickly change sessions, such as switching from GNOME to Xfce?
[04:50] <max> stop downloading and waiting
[04:50] <neeto> Just wait for the official 1.0 release
[04:50] <u007-1> haha.. okay :D
[04:50] <neeto> It's just safer
[04:50] <Kev3124> ok. thanks
[04:50] <Lardarse> Arky44: without logging out?
[04:50] <u007-1> *do not ask*
[04:50] <Rafabe> there's a thread on the HH forums with people saying it should be pushed back a week to fix bugs
[04:50] <Scunizi> Arky44: yes.. log out .. change sessions.. log in.
[04:50] <u007-1> shhhh*
[04:50] <foraoh> 10 minutes left
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[04:51] <Arky44> Scunizi: is that the only way, though?
[04:51] <stroyan> Arky44:  It is actually possible to run multiple X servers with different sessions. But it is not common.
[04:51] <Hardy_HardOn> Whats the likely hood of things breaking from upgrading distros
[04:51] <tom____> Quick question -- If I want to run a cron job as root -- do I just do "sudo crontab -e" and input the command?  I'm assuming then I can just put the command in there without a sudo, right?
[04:51] <Kev3124> 1 more question... when upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04.. is it necessary to back up files?
[04:51] <Arky44> stroyan: OK :)
[04:51] <Scunizi> Arky44: no.. but I'm about to ask the group how.. as I have an interest too. running kde and gnome at the same time
[04:51] <Stroganoff> Arky44: you could write a script that terminates panel, desktop and windows manager and launches the other ones
[04:52] <Scunizi> Anyone know how to run gnome in one tty(7) and kde in another? at the same time?
[04:52] <yajiv> hi all
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[04:52] <Arky44> Stroganoff: that sounds a bit too complicated for me :P
[04:52] <ApOgEE-> can anybody help me please, where to get Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M driver on ati.com? i just can't find it
[04:52] <luis_> #ubuntu-es
[04:52] <Scunizi> ApOgEE-: isn't their site just wonderful?!
[04:53] <neeto> When hardy comes out, can I upgrade seamlessly from 7.10 or is there gonna be some work to get everything working well?
[04:53] <tom____> Quick question -- If I want to run a cron job as root -- do I just do "sudo crontab -e" and input the command?  I'm assuming then I can just put the command in there without a sudo, right?
[04:53] <Scunizi> neeto: seemless
[04:53] <luis_> #ubuntu-es-es
[04:53] <bluefoxx> so i found a xbox360 controller with a usb adaptor at my thrift store today, and plugged it into my ubuntu hardy system, and it seems to work, only problem is that i need to use joy2key with it and wants /dev/js0. but the controller is /dev/input/js0. how do i fix this?
[04:53] <Twistage> Scunizi: What's the deal with people having hardware conflicts via the last RC then?
[04:54] <neeto> Scunizi: completely? I have a bunch of psuedo-hackish crap that's making my compiz install, and it's a big feisty on 7.10 anyway, I think it might just decide to commit suicide if I upgrade the kernel
[04:54] <Scunizi> Twistage: seemless upgrade after official release.. not now.
[04:54] <Kev3124> 1 more question... when upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04.. is it necessary to back up files? (will personal documents be lost when upgrading?)
[04:54] <genii> bluefoxx: edit the udev rule for symlinks and add the one you need
[04:54] <neeto> word
[04:54] <Twistage> neeto: I feel your pain
[04:54] <Stroganoff> Arky44: applications -> system tools -> new login (it may be hidden, use the menu editor)
[04:54] <bluefoxx> genii: how?
[04:54] <nikitis> Is 8.04 released tomorrow?
[04:54] <nickrud> Kev3124 not by design.
[04:54] <Stroganoff> Scunizi: applications -> system tools -> new login (it may be hidden, use the menu editor)
[04:54] <cdm10> Kev3124: it's very very very unlikely that anything will happen. If the system can't boot after the upgrade, you should still be able to get your files off using a livecd.
[04:54] <cdm10> nikitis: please read the topic
[04:54] <tom____> awww come on!!! someone has to know..it's an easy question...
[04:55] <genii> bluefoxx: If you open the file the syntax is easy to understand
[04:55] <Starnestommy> tom____: I think so
[04:55] <bluefoxx> genii: kk, will try it...
[04:55] <peepsalot> oooh, it's about to be so 1337 in here
[04:55] <Kev3124> alright. thanks... just wanted to make sure that upgrading wasnt the equiv. of a hard drive wipe
[04:55] <Scunizi> neeto, seemless might not be in your case.. it's pretty much for a clean system with no major mods.. begs the arguement for a separate /home
[04:55] <nikitis> cdm10, i'm asking what time tomorrow, but tomorrow right?
[04:55] <genii> bluefoxx: Right now I don't have enough time to assist properly. But I gave you the correct approach to use
[04:55] <nikitis> April 24th?
[04:55] <bluefoxx> genii: kk, tyvm
[04:55] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: so that will allow both to run at the same time? same user?
[04:55] <tom____> Starnestommy: you've never run a nightly rsync backup?
[04:55] <Twistage> tom____:  you don't need sudo under root
[04:56] <tom____> Twistage: thank you :-)
[04:56] <Starnestommy> tom____: no, but I have used cron before
[04:56] <nikitis> cdm10, i mean i'm not asking what time tomorrow, just if it is released tomorrow april 24th
[04:56] <Stroganoff> Scunizi yes
[04:56] <darren_> ya
[04:56] <darren_> what time is the releas pary
[04:56] <milly1234> well it looks like I can't have more then one video input device in ubuntu
[04:56] <bluefoxx> genii: /etc/udev/rules.d/??
[04:56] <Stroganoff> darren_: #ubuntu-release-party
[04:57] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: and "new login in a window" will allow .. say .. kde to run in a window?
[04:57] <The_PHP_Jedi> you're all not leet now.
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[04:57] <genii> bluefoxx: In that dir, yes. Some file with symlink in name
[04:57] <Stroganoff> Scunizi i dont know, i dont have gnome installed
[04:57] <dweebgirl> how does rich change his colors for x-chat
[04:57] <SuperRoach> does anyone know when 8.04 is going to be released? im waiting hehe :)
[04:57] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: are you a terminal buff?
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[04:57] <Stroganoff> Scunizi just try it out
[04:57] <bluefoxx> genii: what should the file name look like?
[04:58] <Scunizi> k
[04:58] <theLichKing> SuperRoach: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:58] <nikitis> SuperRoach, trying to find out if it's released april 24th
[04:58]  * SuperRoach looks at topic, ah I see. Is there an estimate?
[04:58] <Stroganoff> Scunizi no i use parts of xubuntu
[04:58] <genii> bluefoxx: 1 minute
[04:58] <theLichKing> SuperRoach: besides, you can know right from the version number
[04:58] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: ah.. I just found out that it has to be a different user.
[04:58] <bluefoxx> genii: kk
[04:58] <theLichKing> SuperRoach: 8.04.. year 8 month 04
[04:58] <luis_> hi good night i like to ask you for help, every time i open mozilla it cover the entire screen and the icons that suppose to be up there at the right hand to minimize, clos or amplife the wondows do not appear how can i fix this please? help
[04:58] <Falkman> Jeez, i hate the new 8.04 :P im going back lol
[04:58] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  Help?
[04:58] <Twistage> Falkman: for what reason
[04:59] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: I heard of a way to CTRL+ALT+F7 or F8 to bounce back and forth between different DM's with the same user and same /home
[04:59] <Scunizi> but forgot how
[04:59] <nickrud> luis_ look for 'full screen' on the menu options
[04:59] <Falkman> Twistage: My wireless card does not work, and its a bug, it detects networks, i just cant connect... lots of people are having the same problem too
[04:59] <Arky44> Stroganoff: Ah, I've been having some fun with the Menu Editor... is there a way to get "New Login in a Window" to work? It says the X server isn't configured well...
[04:59] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, any Idea how to sync my cellular(nokia6610)  over IR with my laptop Toshiba 6100 ?
[04:59] <Stroganoff> Scunizi i know that, its very easy with XDM and SLIM but i dont know yet how to set it up with GDM
[05:00] <Scunizi> Arky44: you might need to create a different user to log in with
[05:00] <Twistage> Falkman: What card ?
[05:00] <stroyan> dweebgirl:  There are two xchat packages in ubuntu-  xchat-gnome and xchat.  The xchat-gnome package is dumbed down.
[05:00] <Falkman> Twistage: intel 3945abg
[05:00] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: thanks
[05:00] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:00] <cirkit_> For some reason gnome-network manager doesn't show up anymore when I try and add the applet "notification area" ... it is installed too
[05:00] <cirkit_> only bluetooth notifiction shows up
[05:00] <Stroganoff> Scunizi try running gdmflexiserver from the terminal
[05:00] <nickrud> cirkit  type  alt-f2 nm-applet
[05:00] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:00] <Arky44> Falkman: most Windows Wireless Cards don't work with ubuntu. It's easy to fix though :)
[05:00] <dweebgirl> AutoMatriX, do you have the nokia pc suite?
[05:01] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: not sure what that did but I had to log in again.
[05:01] <Falkman> Arky44: How? it works fine out of the box with 7.10
[05:01] <LainIwak1ra> Hello, could someone teach me how to search for two keywords  using grep? For example, how do I search for all history lines containing both "ssh" and "lain"? history | grep ssh+lain?
[05:01] <luis_> on applications nickrud?
[05:01] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, I have, but I want to sync with Evolution
[05:01] <cirkit_> nickrud: cool ty
[05:01] <whitt> can we get help with hardy in this room yet, or is it still ubuntu+1?
[05:01] <Stroganoff> Scunizi nothing on ctrl+alt+f8/f7?
[05:01] <Twistage> I'm going to shoot myself if my wireless and sound stop working again under hardy
[05:01] <nickrud> luis_ on the firefox menus, probably under view
[05:02] <nickrud> whitt still 7.04
[05:02] <Arky44> Falkman: Have you installed ndisgtk or ndiswrapper in Synaptic?
[05:02] <megatog615> omg april 24th
[05:02] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:02] <luis_> so i hacve to open mozilla?
[05:02] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, what was your idea ?
[05:02] <Falkman> Arky44: No, i never had to before so I didnt think I would have to, ill try
[05:02] <nickrud> whitt when you can't get into #ubuntu+1, it's released if prior history means anything
[05:02] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: F9 gives me a nice black screen with a movable mouse pointer.
[05:02] <nickrud> luis_ run firefox/mozilla, and look under the view menu.
[05:02] <Qster> whats the difference between the release i dled and the one that everyone is waiting for?
[05:02] <Stroganoff> Scunizi you could try to go to ctrl+alt+f8, login and run: kde-session -- :1
[05:03] <Arky44> Falkman: I had the same prob for a while...ndiswrapper is the terminal equivalent of ndisgtk (I like it better :))
[05:03] <luis_> ok thanks
[05:03] <punkn00dlezz> When is Hardy going to be released?
[05:03] <nickrud> Qster which did you get?
[05:03] <Starnestommy> punkn00dlezz: in a few hours
[05:03] <Qster> 8.04
[05:03] <KyleK> heh
[05:03] <nickrud> punkn00dlezz see topic
[05:03] <Stroganoff> Scunizi or ctrl+alt+f1 rather
[05:03] <Arky44> Falkman: you then need to manually install your driver from there
[05:03] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, ? gone ?
[05:03] <nickrud> Qster it'll update automatically
[05:03] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:03] <JPSman> does anyone know much about ndiswrapper?
[05:03] <KyleK> i think we should ignore anyone who asks questions answered by the topic :)
[05:03] <Qster> ah
[05:03] <Falkman> Arky44: Aww... :P fine, just the ipw3945 one or w/e?
[05:03] <JPSman> I want to know how to get it working
[05:03] <punkn00dlezz> My fault. Boy I feel dumb now.
[05:03] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: ah.. ok.. thanks.. I think that was the command that was given to me in the past.. do I still need gdmflexiserver? and what does that do?
[05:03] <Invert314> i read the man pages, but i still can't figure out: how do i unmount all drives?
[05:03] <dweebgirl> Automatrix, there's a nokia forum re; this
[05:03] <KyleK> hey how come there isn't ndiswrapper modules for 64bit?
[05:03] <luis_> thank you very much nickrud it did work  i really appreciate your help
[05:03] <bullgard4> What could be the reason that GNOME Search Tool does not find my file ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf? I notice that on 2 different laptops using different Ubuntu versions.
[05:04] <dweebgirl> are u a member?
[05:04] <karllenz> what is kernal panic not syncing?
[05:04] <Rafabe> I'm trying to install the Hardy Heron that came out 10 minutes ago and I'm getting an error
[05:04] <Stroganoff> Scunizi forget gdmflexi
[05:04] <KyleK> bullgard4: it searches . directories?
[05:04] <nickrud> luis_ you're welcome
[05:04] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:04] <KyleK> Rafabe: error: error not found?
[05:04] <AutoMatriX> dweebgirl, what do you mean ?
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[05:04] <bullgard4> KyleK: Just a moment. I will check.
[05:04] <Rafabe> hahaha
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[05:04] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: ok.. but I'm still curious.. what's it suppose to do?
[05:05] <dweebgirl> lemme get you the link
[05:05] <JPSman> does anyone know about wireless driver building/repair?
[05:05] <JPSman> or ndiswrapper?
[05:05] <anony> dicks
[05:05] <stroyan> karllenz:  That is the linux equivalent of the blue screen of death.  Something bad happened in the kernel.
[05:05] <MEtaLpREs> anyone know what time today hardy becomes available? i see it just says coming soon now
[05:05] <Stroganoff> Scunizi same as "new login" i think
[05:05] <Invert314> how do i unmount all drives i previously mounted?
[05:05] <karllenz> what can i do to fix this i just added ram could that be the issue??
[05:05] <stroyan> Invert314:  What about "/" ?
[05:05] <Arky44> Scunizi: Ctrl + Alt + F1 opens some kind of terminal OS
[05:05] <suprie> Invert314, umount -a
[05:05] <Scunizi> Stroganoff: k.. thanks.
[05:06] <bullgard4> KyleK: No, it does not find the directory ~/.gnupg either.
[05:06] <nabcore> karllenz; run the ram checker
[05:06] <Scunizi> Arky44: yes.. it's called a tty.
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[05:06] <karllenz> ok
[05:06] <nabcore> karllenz: memtest option from bootCD
[05:06] <karllenz> memtest
[05:06] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:06] <Invert314> suprie: i already tried umount -a...the srives are still mounted
[05:06] <Invert314> stroyan: what about /?
[05:07] <stroyan> You don't want to umount /, do you?
[05:07] <nabcore> the ban list for this channel is.... quite big :)
[05:07] <Invert314> stroyan: i am on a livecd =D
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC
[05:07] <nickrud> kmg here's mine: /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[05:07] <KyleK> bullgard4: so it doesn't search . directories?
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <anony> MAC>PC>LINUX
[05:07] <suprie> Invert314, which partition you want to umount
[05:07] <Starnestommy> anony: stop that
[05:07] <Scunizi> Arky44: you have to have kubuntu-desktop installed and then initiate the command that was given previously. then you can log in with gnome regularly and add kde to ctrl+alt+f1 or 2 or 3 or...
[05:07] <stroyan> nabcore:  The ban list is getting bigger.
[05:08] <Arky44> Scunizi: Ah....
[05:08] <KyleK> why do you guys always op up and down?
[05:08] <Arky44> *epiphany*
[05:08] <JPSman> how can I upgrade hardy when I can't get online BECAUSE of hardy??
[05:08] <KyleK> it spams the channel unnessesssarily :p
[05:08] <nickrud> KyleK freenode policy
[05:08] <karllenz> bios rom checksum error?
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[05:08] <twistage> Whats the easiest way to DD a drive
[05:08] <Starnestommy> nickrud: it's actually a guideline, not a policy
[05:08] <KyleK> hah
[05:08] <Falkman> Damnit, i cant even make iwlwifi, i get loads of make errors
[05:08] <Invert314> suprie: /dev/sda3, sda2, sda5 mounted to /ubuntu, /ubuntu2, /ubuntu5 respectively (i think)
[05:08] <Falkman> screw this, no compatability == fail
[05:09] <Arky44> Hardy is not showing up in Update Manager...is there a terminal command for it?
[05:09] <cdm10> Arky44: it's not out yet.
[05:09] <Invert314> i actually forget which part is mounted to which directory
[05:09] <nickrud> Starnestommy guideline, recommended policy, half a dozen one 6 of the other
[05:09] <KyleK> Falkman: epic fail?
[05:09] <Arky44> cdm10: *grr* :P
[05:09] <cdm10> Arky44: you can force an upgrade to it by running "update-manager --devel-release"
[05:09] <Falkman> KyleK: yep!
[05:09] <kmg> nickrud: permission denied
[05:09] <Arky44> *is counting the seconds*
[05:09] <Invert314> suprie: how can i tell which drives are mounted to which directory?
[05:09] <nickrud> kmg not sure then. can you read it as root?
[05:09] <KyleK> I cant get my wireless to work otherwise I'd be all over it
[05:09] <cdm10> Arky44: hit alt-f2, type that in, and run it, and you should be able to upgrade.
[05:09] <suprie> Invert314, just type mount
[05:09] <stroyan> Invert314:  You do need to stop or relocate processes using mount points.  You can use lsof to see what processes use each mount point.
[05:10] <kmg> nickrud: yes, i can.
[05:10] <cdm10> Arky44: just be forewarned: everyone is trying to upgrade, and will be for the next few days, so the servers are going to be dead slow.
[05:10] <phishie> i cannot wait for hardy's release man
[05:10] <phishie> whooooooooo
[05:10] <nickrud> kmg and, your user needs to be in the cdrom group
[05:10] <Falkman> :\ Depressing lol
[05:10] <r0b> what time will hardy be ready for download
[05:10] <cdm10> r0b: look at the topic.
[05:10] <MrSteve> Help !  --- I have ATI 9600 series All-In-Wonder AGP card.. It will do OpemGL uner MS.. XpPro.. Everything was fine until I used the Restricted driver from Ubuntu.. Now the Monitor is 640x480 LowResolution only.
[05:10] <Invert314> ty suprie
[05:10] <twistage> Will the gnome upgrade screw up my theme/wallpaper etc. etc.
[05:11] <nickrud> kmg you can check that by typing   groups   in the terminal. If it isn't,   sudo adduser <user> cdrom, log out and log back in (the logging is required)
[05:11] <kmg> nickrud: when I do 'groups box' (my username) cdrom is in there
[05:11] <Invert314> mount shows that nothing is mounted to the directories i designated
[05:11] <MrSteve> twistage:  - back up before install
[05:11] <suprie> Invert314, yw
[05:11] <Macrend> at what will 8.10 be released?
[05:11] <twistage> MrSteve: With what? dd?
[05:11] <phishie> Macrend , read topic
[05:11] <nickrud> kmg what's the permissions on your scd?  . should be 660
[05:11] <MrSteve> twistage:  copy files, even
[05:12] <Macrend> oops
[05:12] <Macrend> sorry
[05:12] <phishie> lol
[05:12] <Macrend> bye
[05:12] <Invert314> stroyan: i think lsof is more than i need
[05:12] <cxo> Does the LTS version get gnome major cycle updates?
[05:12] <nickrud> cxo you mean gnome? no
[05:12] <MrSteve> no?
[05:12] <MrSteve> I gotta go get Gnome updates?
[05:13] <pragmaticpie> No luck with the Treo 650 yet.
[05:13] <maek> OMFG dling hardy now
[05:13] <kmg> nickrud: they're 660
[05:13] <patifa> MrSteve, you could shut off the restricted driver.
[05:13] <Invert314> suprie, stroyan: now check this out: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/sda6 /ubuntu6
[05:13] <Invert314> mount: /dev/sda6 already mounted or /ubuntu6 busy
[05:13] <cxo> eg 2.20 to 2.22
[05:13] <JPSman> does anyone know where I can get the windows drivers for a rt2500 card?
[05:13] <KyleK> hey what do I install for ndiswrapper modules on x86_64?
[05:13] <twistage> This is kind of a stupid question, but how do you use GParted when you can't unmount and edit the size of the partition it resides on?
[05:13] <nickrud> MrSteve a stable release is just that, serious bug and security releases. Most desktop users stay with the 6 month cycle, large institutions usually use the lts's
[05:13] <Invert314> suprie: how do i mount sda6 to /ubuntu6?
[05:13] <kmg> nickrud: I did sudo chmod 660 /dev/scd0 and no change
[05:13] <MrSteve> patifa:  I did that.. No Luck, so I re-activated the driver.. what is it flgrx?
[05:13] <cwillu> fglrx
[05:13] <nickrud> kmg no real clue then.
[05:13] <maek> JPSman look on manufacturers website
[05:13] <Invert314> oh hey nickrud, i remember you from a long time ago =D
[05:14] <KyleK> JPSman: manufacturer site usually works really easily
[05:14] <kmg> nickrud: =C
[05:14] <toby_1_kenobi> MrSteve: I suppose if you want gnome updates then you could keep up with the regular ubuntu releases and not hang on to the LTS
[05:14] <nickrud> Invert314 yeah, I've been doing this far too long ;)
[05:14] <suprie> Invert314, lsof | grep Ubuntu6
[05:14] <stroyan> Invert314:  But you say that "mount" alone does not report /ubuntu6 as mounted?
[05:14] <MatToufoutu> hi all
[05:14] <cxo> So LTS doesnt get gnome updates?
[05:14] <bullgard4> KyleK: In gnome-search-tool I choosed now explicitely the option 'Search for hidden files and backups'. Now in Gutsy it findds a hidden directory but in Hardy it does not.
[05:14] <JPSman> . . . . . . .  k
[05:14] <MrSteve> toby_1_kenobi:  - Ohhh they doig that too?
[05:14] <Ocenis64> bonjour :)
[05:14] <KyleK> ah
[05:14] <Invert314> stroyan: correct
[05:14]  * cxo damn they're too many convos in here
[05:14] <karllenz> ok removed newly added ram and pci wifi card no erros yet and ubuntu is booting
[05:15] <suprie> Invert314, you can see in /etc/mtab
[05:15] <maek> cxo it gets GNOME updates with every distribution updates
[05:15] <Invert314> suprie: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ lsof | grep Ubuntu6
[05:15] <Invert314> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /cow
[05:15] <Invert314>       Output information may be incomplete.
[05:15] <MrSteve> I thought it got gnome with distro updates
[05:15] <stroyan> Invert314:  Do you get a similar complaint with mounting sda6 to a different directory?
[05:15] <nickrud> tmpfs cow?
[05:15] <maek> like hardy has a new version of GNOME to gusty cxo
[05:15] <toby_1_kenobi> MrSteve: it does
[05:15] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:16] <twistage> Anyone? advice on gparted
[05:16] <MatToufoutu> is hardy still released in usa ?
[05:16] <Falkman> Has anyone fixed 3945abg drivers on hardy?
[05:16] <MrSteve> unetbootin.. delighted me
[05:16] <Marfi> not yet
[05:16] <Invert314> stroyan: yes
[05:16] <stroyan> Invert314:  lsof will show what is in use and can't therefore be umounted.  It doesn't hint at what will prevent a mount.
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[05:16] <MatToufoutu> Marfi, you were answering me ?
[05:16] <cxo> I want an distro that updates gnome without needing to reinstall a newer version of the OS
[05:17] <nickrud> MatToufoutu see topic
[05:17] <nickrud> cxo debian unstable
[05:17] <cxo> I mean, isnt it a bit weird to reinstall the OS, just to get an application update
[05:17] <megatog615> cxo: debian sid
[05:17] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:17] <AutoMatriX_> dweebgirl, sorry, lost connexion
[05:17] <mrkeishii> Whh
[05:17] <mrkeishii> ahh
[05:17] <Invert314> suprie: there are no traces of /ubuntu6 in my mtab file
[05:17] <mrkeishii> can't wait
[05:17] <Starnestommy> cxo: you'll still get bugfixes and security updates
[05:17] <mrkeishii> it is 12:17 right now in eastern side of US. I'm waiting for 8.04LTS
[05:18] <nickrud> cxo and you don't need to reinstall, you can upgrade from one release to the next over the net
[05:18] <MatToufoutu> nickrud, i know you dont know the exact time, but i just wanted to know if it was still released or not, and i've my answer, thank you ;)
[05:18] <quentusrex> if I'm creating a launcher to run a command in an xterm window. How do I get the window to stay open?
[05:18] <Invert314> stroyan: i tried mount sda6 to a different dir, but i get the same 'already mount'/'busy' message
[05:18] <stroyan> Invert314:  Are there any references to sda6, or possibly some alias of sda6 ?
[05:18] <twistage> mrkeishii: You didn't hear? They pushed it back
[05:18] <mrkeishii> till when
[05:18] <twistage> 2 weeks
[05:18] <mrkeishii> ahhhhhh
[05:18] <mrkeishii> y
[05:18] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:18] <mrkeishii> ?
[05:18] <nickrud> MatToufoutu thinking about turning that into a text replace: nh = No hardy yet, see topic ;p
[05:18] <cwillu> mrkeishii, every time you ask, they push back the release time two hours
[05:18] <twistage> Im just kidding
[05:18] <quentusrex> mrkeishii, I'm running Hardy right now... you want to wait....
[05:18] <dweebgirl> ok
[05:18] <phishie> lol
[05:18] <eckesicle> I have a pdf of slides of which I would like to print 4-6 slides per page in evince. Find no such options. Any way to do this fast?
[05:18]  * jgoo sticks a red hot poker up lenovos ass and warns everyone not to buy lenovo
[05:18] <anachronoks> did they really push back the release date?
[05:18] <bullgard4> Where am I supposed to store GNOME source code files?
[05:19] <mrkeishii> wow
[05:19] <twistage> No
[05:19] <quentusrex> Hardy isn't quiet fully ready to the spot light yet.
[05:19] <phishie> it's today man
[05:19] <mrkeishii> r u really sure they push it back
[05:19] <nickrud> bullgard4 best to do it in your home
[05:19] <quentusrex> :)
[05:19] <anachronoks> that's how rumors start...
[05:19] <quentusrex> haha
[05:19] <twistage> mrkeishii: Joke
[05:19] <mrkeishii> okay
[05:19] <cwillu> mrkeishii, read it for yourself in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:19] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:19] <Invert314> stroyan: none
[05:19] <asubedi> hey, how to disable command-not-found thing?
[05:19] <roocraig> what time will 8.04 final be released do you think?
[05:19] <cwillu> !hardy
[05:19] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[05:19] <bullgard4> nickrud: Why is that the best?
[05:19] <mrkeishii> Oh
[05:19] <cwillu> bah, they should really change that
[05:19] <mrkeishii> I read it sorry
[05:19] <MrSteve> (When they take RC off the Filename, I will get it.)
[05:19] <mrkeishii> about asking
[05:19] <cwillu> roocraig, read the motd
[05:20] <Falkman> wow
[05:20] <KyleK> oh i get it
[05:20] <nickrud> asubedi remove the package command-not-found
[05:20] <cwillu> '''No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released.'''
[05:20] <KyleK> its midnight edt
[05:20] <cxo> nickrud, is that like fedora rawhide?
[05:20] <nickrud> bullgard4 easy compilation, since you already own it
[05:20] <Falkman> this is impossible, so many dependencies, just putting me backwards into more errors
[05:20] <KyleK> can someone change the botthing to specify PDT?
[05:20] <nickrud> cxo sorta, but much better imho
[05:20] <bullgard4> nickrud: Ah, ok. Thank you very much.
[05:20] <suprie> Invert314, have you tried without -t options
[05:20] <suprie> ?
[05:20] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:21] <Invert314> suprie: i'll try that now
[05:21] <JPSman> how can I find out what RaLink driver ubuntu used when packaging hardy?
[05:21] <phishie> Intrepid Ibex is the next version after Hardy.
[05:21] <phishie> sounds really cool
[05:21] <twistage> How do you modify partition size and create new with GParted when you can't unmount the drive it resides on?
[05:21] <rullie> so is hardy out?
[05:21] <nickrud> twistage use a live cd
[05:21] <roocraig> I have a add/remove error-please give me some advice as to what I should do: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64184/    I tried to install a ppd driver for a brother mfc-I did so incorrectly and I get this error after I install my other applications-I am a newbie so any clear help is appreciated :)
[05:21] <AutoMatriX_> phishie, I thaught it was hairy hardon ?
[05:22] <phishie> not yet rullie
[05:22] <rullie> phishis, suppose to be today right?
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[05:22] <phishie> today's release is Hardy Heron
[05:22] <anachronoks> i'm going to try to install ubuntu 8 on a separate partition than 7.10, think i should use wubi?
[05:22] <phishie> I'm saying the version after
[05:22] <Invert314> suprie: without -t options, the prompt says that sda looks like swap space lolol
[05:22] <PyChild> it is
[05:22] <bradlis7> what timezone is ubuntu coming out on?
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[05:22] <suprie> Invert314, lol
[05:22] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:23] <AutoMatriX_> phishie, sorry, misplaced joke, I use hardy since Alpha3 ;)
[05:23] <eckesicle> lp has option number_up
[05:23] <Invert314> sda6*
[05:23] <nickrud> roocraig in /var/lib/dpkg/info/cupswrappermfc7820n.postinst , put exit 0   after the line set -e if it exists, otherwise on line 2
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[05:23] <phishie> AutoMatriX_ =)
[05:24] <AutoMatriX_> phishie, sorry, could'nt leave that ;)
[05:24] <nickrud> roocraig and _immediately_ after that run sudo apt-get remove --purge cupswrappermfc7820n , then sud apt-get -f install
[05:24] <Falkman> bye bye hardy! I will never miss you!
[05:24] <karllenz> what if ubuntu only boots when in fail safe gnome desktop?
[05:25] <bradlis7> does anyone know what timezone hardy is going to be released at midnight in? i'm surprised it didn't come out in greenwich, or at least america-east
[05:25] <nickrud> karllenz if you get to that, it's booting in the normal mode, just the X server is not starting. What kind of video card do you have?
[05:25] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:25] <karllenz> on board
[05:25] <karllenz> via i believe
[05:25] <nickrud> karllenz need to know exactly
[05:25] <nickrud> karllenz   lspci | grep -i vga  in a terminal will tell you
[05:25] <mrkeishii> Maggie Q is hot
[05:26] <chibi_killstick> does anyone know how to deal with this error: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[05:26] <karllenz> ok i just got and error sayin OAFIID:GNOME_FASTusERSWITCHAPPLET
[05:26] <karllenz> encountered problem loading
[05:26] <chibi_killstick> it seems to be an error with  /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
[05:26] <stroyan> Invert314:  You can use "sudo parted /dev/sda print" to look for that reiserfs filesystem you thought you made.
[05:26] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:26] <rryan> Anyone know what time today 8.04 is being released?
[05:26] <dweebgirl> Automatrix, did you get it
[05:26] <tricid> ./topic
[05:27] <rryan> tricid : doh.. sry
[05:27] <karllenz> it says s3 unichrome
[05:27] <dweebgirl> did you get the nokia forum website?
[05:27] <karllenz> made by VIA
[05:27] <tricid> np
[05:27] <karllenz> VT8378
[05:27] <Qster> anyone know the command  to open the resollution ive somehow gotten mine stuck on 320 and cant see anything
[05:27] <Invert314> stroyan: ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ sudo parted /dev/sda print
[05:27] <Invert314> Error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[05:27] <nickrud> karllenz tell it to unload the applet
[05:27]  * bradlis7 wants hardy
[05:28] <karllenz> i hit ignor it wanted to delet
[05:28]  * CyanFlux wants hardy too
[05:28] <kmg> I need to have read access to a DVD from a regular user, but I always get 'Permission denied'.  here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/m1a9c69df
[05:28] <stroyan> Invert314:  That disk is looking very mistreated.
[05:28] <dweebgirl> http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/platforms/maemo/index.html
[05:28] <KyleK> kmg: permission denied for mounting or reading?
[05:29] <kmg> KyleK: reading
[05:29] <KyleK> ah
[05:29] <nickrud> karllenz not sure what driver provides support for that chip, try googling  ubuntu via vt8378
[05:29] <Invert314> stroyan: damn
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[05:29] <karllenz> ok
[05:29] <KyleK> kmg: a) look at the permissions and uh ask somebody else or b) add in umask=022 :)
[05:29] <Explo> Does anyone know how to keep GDM from running when Ubuntu boots?
[05:29] <Qster> anyone kow a way to get my resolution out for 320 lol.. cant see anything and cant geto menu where i changed it
[05:29] <redwyrm> how can I see a list of installed packages sorted by installation date?
[05:30] <nickrud> !who | karllenz (you'll need to do this, especially starting tomorrow ;)
[05:30] <ubotu> karllenz (you'll need to do this, especially starting tomorrow ;): As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:30] <fserve> Qster, try ctrl + alt + '+'
[05:30] <karllenz> ubotu: ok
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <eZe> hm, use !tab ?
[05:30] <karllenz> ubotu: im new wit irc
[05:30] <zylstra555> Hello. When I run CUPSYS in the browser, I get this error: E [23/Apr/2008:21:27:35 -0700] cupsdCloseClient: Error in the push function. What does it mean and how do I fix it?
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about im new wit irc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <kmg> KyleK: which permissions?  and I'll try the umask.  also, different DVD works
[05:30] <fserve> redwyrm, try synaptic
[05:30] <eZe> !tab o.O
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab o.o - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <brent113> ok: kind of a complicated setup: removed nvidia-glx-new and installed the newest driver off nvidia's website.  Now I'm having trouble enabling compiz fusion, it wants the nvidia-glx-new package i'm assuming
[05:31] <Explo> Does anyone know how to keep GDM from running when Ubuntu boots?
[05:31] <redwyrm> fserve, thanks. I'll look into it
[05:31] <xanax`> is it out ? is it available somewhere ?
[05:31] <KyleK> kmg: oh also maybe your user cant use the mount point
[05:31] <stroyan> Explo:  You can run "sudo services-admin" and uncheck "Graphical login manager"
[05:31] <eZe>  please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab) <- i don't think that's supposed to say !tab
[05:31] <KyleK> linux is silly with permissions that they no longer phase me
[05:31] <Explo> stroyan: I'll try that
[05:32] <brent113> anyone wanna help me turn on compiz?
[05:32] <nickrud> karllenz welcome then. There's only a few things you'll need to know, you'll pick them up as you go
[05:32] <kmg> KyleK: user can't use the mount point?
[05:32] <xanax`> is v8.04 out ? is it available somewhere ?
[05:33] <nickrud> xanax` see /topic
[05:33] <karllenz> nickrud: thanx
[05:33] <brent113> hey nikrud
[05:33] <karllenz> nickrud: do u thin the s3 driver will work
[05:33] <nickrud> brent113 hey.
[05:33] <KyleK> hmmmmm
[05:33] <Qster> anyone know console command to open resolution settings?
[05:33] <karllenz> wit my  via vt8378
[05:33] <milly1234> well, I am going to attempt and recompile this kernel in an attempt to get to video input devices working at once
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[05:34] <xanax`> ok, thanks nickrud. (but it could have been released discretely on a FTP mirror.. ;-p )
[05:34] <gramm> can i ask hardy questions in here yet?
[05:34] <nickrud> karllenz my guess would be xserver-xorg-video-via  or  -unichrome , but I don't have any experience with via chips
[05:34] <nickrud> gramm not yet.
[05:35] <milly1234> two video devices I mean
[05:35] <stroyan> Qster:  gnome-display-properties
[05:35] <karllenz> nickrud: that did the trick
[05:35] <karllenz> nickrud:  the s3 driver
[05:35] <nickrud> karllenz ah good ;)
[05:35] <pikeshouse88> so far off is the final release? hours, minutes?
[05:35] <karllenz> nickrud: im proud lol i figuered something out
[05:35] <pikeshouse88> ^how
[05:35] <brent113> nickrud, wanna help me out with my compiz problem real quick?
[05:35] <stroyan> Qster:  Sometimes xrandr works better.
[05:36] <Invert314> stroyan, suprie: here is my forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&page=31
[05:36] <nickrud> !sudo | roocraig
[05:36] <ubotu> roocraig: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[05:36] <thiebaude> bbl, i have updates on my 8.04
[05:36]  * Invert314 = Drone4four
[05:36] <karllenz> now i see hardy is out ima hafta reinstall everything again
[05:36] <shadow420> 8.04 is released
[05:36] <xanax`> shadow420 : where ?
[05:36] <karllenz> damnit
[05:36] <nickrud> brent113 if it's real simple, I used compiz some but I'm back to metacity.
[05:37] <shadow420> xanax just order the free cd
[05:37] <nickrud> karllenz no, just wait till hardy is released. Your ubuntu will offer to upgrade without reinstalling
[05:37] <xanax`> hmm.. I want to download the iso
[05:38] <supersako> is it released?
[05:38] <Dynamite> no
[05:38]  * rryan shakes
[05:38] <karllenz> nickrud: im new to linux and ubuntu should i wait before doing any updates as well??
[05:39] <brent113> nickrud: haha, yea my problem is enabling it.  I installed the nvidia driver using the .run from their site, and the appearance tab won't let me enable effects, saying I need to enable it from the restricted driver manager
[05:39] <nickrud> karllenz no, you should be totally up to date before upgrading to the next release. Actually, the upgrade will ensure you're up to date before it begins
[05:39] <karllenz> nickrud: o ok
[05:39] <karllenz> apt-get update
[05:39] <Geoffrey2> or, just download the ISO, burn it to CD, and install
[05:39] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, how's it going tonight?
[05:39] <nickrud> brent113 ah. that's not a compiz problem, that's a video driver problem. ATI I'd take a stab at, but I haven't owned an nvidia in years
[05:39] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x quickly :)
[05:40] <brent113> nickrud: ah, well thanks anyways
[05:40] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, that good, eh?
[05:40] <mrwislr> can someone please help me
[05:40] <nickrud> xTheGoat121x if people wouldn't keep asking about the release, the scroll would be about a third ;)
[05:41] <Qster> !stroyan thanks! oh thank god thank you
[05:41] <mrwislr> i need to test registering on a new site
[05:41] <bullgard4> How can I add a switch to gnome-search-tool so that it will find hidden files and backups also? ('man gnome-search-tool' did not enlighten me.)
[05:42] <xTheGoat121x> nickrud, so true.  If all else fails... just keep repeating the name of the channel with the release party.
[05:42] <gramm> hi, im installing hardy (yeah, i know, not supported yet, etc).  ubiquity seems to be stalling after importing documents and settings.  help please?
[05:42] <Acoustyk> has anyone gotten 3d gnu chess to work?
[05:42] <milly1234> maybe I can have more then one video input device in the new ubuntu, instead of me just trying to fix my 7.10 install
[05:42] <ross`> excuse me, can i get ubuntu for my palm? palm V 5?
[05:42] <Geoffrey2> well, how about changing the topic to No, we DON'T know when 8.04 will be released. :)
[05:42] <mrwislr> anyone help me test registering?
[05:42] <zylstra555> Hello. When I run CUPSYS in the browser, I get this error: E [23/Apr/2008:21:27:35 -0700] cupsdCloseClient: Error in the push function. What does it mean and how do I fix it?
[05:43] <Acoustyk> has anyone gotten gnu chess 3D to work?
[05:43] <frank_b> question: who should I complain to about a bar in the left of every maximized window in ubuntu? (whether I am using firefox or an application) the gnome people?
[05:43] <nickrud> frank_b have you tried a different theme
[05:44] <mrwislr> anyone?
[05:44] <karllenz> what does this do dpkg --configure -a
[05:44] <DAC1138> can someone explain why openoffice has a patch (that's about 100+ mb) each week?
[05:44] <frank_b> nickrud, no, I guess I can try that, thanks
[05:44] <Mythril> Does anyone know of any project management software out there that currently has resource leveling working?
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[05:44] <nickrud> frank_b might be the issue, but easily isn't
[05:45] <KeithWeisshar> when is ubuntu 8.04 coming out
[05:45] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, security fixes and functionality fixes
[05:45] <gramm> karllenz: i would like to second that question
[05:45] <nickrud> karllenz it tells the package management to run the install configuration steps for any packages that haven't finished configuring
[05:45] <ross`> excuse me, can i get ubuntu for my palm? palm V 5????
[05:46] <mrwislr> anyone able to do a quick registering?
[05:46]  * zylstra555 wonders how many people are not looking at the topic today
[05:46] <peepsalot> anyone know a way to use netflix "watch now" on Ubuntu w/ firefox?  I think a guy at my work was saying there is a way
[05:46] <fserve> KeithWeisshar, TODAY!
[05:46] <xanax`> only a very few people read channel topic after joining
[05:46] <Geoffrey2> ross`, I don't believe that's possible
[05:46] <gramm> zylstra555: about as many never look at the topic...
[05:46] <karllenz> nickrud: o ok
[05:46] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: when does ubuntu 8.04 come out?
[05:46] <isplicer> Guys, whens Hardy coming out?
[05:46] <ross`> Geoffrey2: can i get debian on my palm?
[05:47] <ross`> what would you uggest would be the best distro to put on my palm
[05:47] <isplicer> hardy should be out today right?
[05:47] <CyanFlux> :)
[05:47] <zylstra555> Were 2.5 hours away from the release now..
[05:47] <MrObvious> zylstra555: How did you get that time?
[05:47] <Dynamite> yes, today.
[05:47] <shadow420> 2.5 wow
[05:47] <frank_b> nickrud, no, you were right. it solved the problem. it's a petty though, since they're always changing the themes and getting rid of old good versions. I guess I'll have to look for one that pleases me more. thanks once again :)
[05:47] <Hikejinx> Wow, it's worse then a bunch of Star Wars geeks outside a new release
[05:47] <zylstra555> ...
[05:47] <zylstra555> www.ubuntu.com
[05:47] <zylstra555> "1 day away"
[05:48] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: then wouldnt it be better to just download openoffice from the main site and not worry about having to get the debs from the ubuntu servers, since they're so buggy and holey?
[05:48] <Geoffrey2> ross`, you can't just take any old linux distro and install it on the Palm....you need a linux program specifically designed to work on it...the average linux distro is WAY to big to fit
[05:48] <CyanFlux> thats based off your computer's time
[05:48] <nickrud> frank_b I always do. I have a small screen so I use spifficity because it has very short title bars
[05:48] <zylstra555> CyanFlux: What time zone is the Ubuntu server in?
[05:48] <MrObvious> zylstra555: Here in Kansas it will be the 24th in 12 minutes. It doesn't mean it will be available then
[05:48] <MrObvious> .
[05:48] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, the .deb's from ubuntu are .deb made from the patches Openoffice puts out.
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> update
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> !upgrade
[05:48] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:48] <CaptainMorgan> !update
[05:48] <roocraig> Can anyone help a newbie with a sound issue?
[05:48] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: I believe its PDT
[05:48] <ross`> Geoffrey2: i realize that
[05:49] <Fdisk93> here in NC its 12:48 and it isnt out yet
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> I checked the site and can't find it... is the new Ubuntu out yet ?
[05:49] <ross`> can you suggest a palm version of linux thats decent?
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> ok
[05:49] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[05:49] <zylstra555> CyanFlux: Do you think the people in charge of Ubuntu are so excited (about to pee their pants) that they might actually hit the button at EXACTLY 12AM?
[05:49] <shadow420> roocraig whats your sound issue
[05:49] <Gang> Hi, when will 8.04 be released? What does "Coming Soon" exactly mean?
[05:49] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: ah, ok. well, it just gets frusturating when we have bandwidth caps here in australia and we have 500 updates to get to make a distro stable
[05:49] <MichaelLovesUbun> is there a ubuntu release party chat this time
[05:49] <twistage> MichaelLovesUbun: Yeah
[05:49] <KeithWeisshar> what time zone is ubuntu.com located in
[05:50] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: I was kidding when i asked you when it was to come out, considering the channel title and other people asking, etc
[05:50] <nickrud> MichaelLovesUbun see the /topic
[05:50] <twistage> MichaelLovesUbun: #ubuntu-release-party
[05:50] <Hikejinx> Coming soon means everyone comes here, doesn't read the topic, and asks the same questions over and over, preventing people with REAL questions from getting help
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, are you talking about because you have multiple machines to update or because openoffice updates so often?
[05:50] <justnuts> wat!? release time is based on localtime .... not very il8n
[05:50] <MichaelLovesUbun> k im there
[05:50] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, are you using dapper or what?
[05:50] <zylstra555> CyanFlux: I know, but, its sure funny to watch the wave of reaction
[05:50]  * CyanFlux nods.
[05:50] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: been using gutsy for the longest time but gave up on doing updates about 3 months ago
[05:51] <tcpdumpgod> why DAC1138 ?
[05:51] <zylstra555> Why dont you get a server admin in here to automatically force invite everyone who asks to #ubuntu-party-release ... that would solve quite a few problems
[05:51] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: thought this new hardy release candidate would have improved the update thing, but it didnt.
[05:51] <frank_b> nickrud, yes, but in my case it was definitly the theme, since it only started when I had to choose a different one because the one I used to use doesn't come with ubuntu anymore
[05:51] <khaije1> yet?
[05:51] <CyanFlux> zylstra555: and yes, I do believe the people releasing it are are so excited they are about to pee their pants.
[05:51] <zylstra555> (yes, I realize there wouldent be a willing server admint..)
[05:51] <khaije1> err nm nm
[05:51] <Gang> Hikejinx, thanks for your explanation~
[05:51] <shadow420> I have Gutsy and Hardy Kubuntu beta
[05:51] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: updates are tedious and stupid when they update apps i don't even use, and even if it's for security purposes, i'd rather just deal with a broken system than spend my uptime downloading updates
[05:51] <Starnestommy> zylstra555: forced joins are impossible on this network's irc server software
[05:51] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, do you have "hardy" in your sources.list or "gutsy"?
[05:52] <zylstra555> Starnestommy: Aww... they are so fun as well
[05:52] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: it's all hardy now
[05:52] <shadow420> but I am dumping my entire linux HD and just have Hardy and I might get slackware for the hell of it
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> How long have you had it like that DAC1138 ?
[05:53] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: installed the hardy beta and im not installing anything else, since ubuntu is the best (just tried openoffice 10.3, it's not to shabby, but not ubuntu)
[05:53] <fserve> 2.3 ?
[05:53] <tcpdumpgod> How long have you had it like that DAC1138 ?
[05:53] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: hardy repos? since i installed the hardy RC
[05:53] <frank_b> nickrud, or better saying, the window border to be more specific, since I usually customize the theme. thanks once again :)
[05:53] <nickrud> frank_b yw
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> DAC1138, a week, two weeks, ?!
[05:54]  * zylstra555 over and out
[05:54] <DAC1138> tcpdumpgod: a day
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> well hardy is a beta release and openoffice gets updated daily.
[05:54] <tcpdumpgod> thats probably what you're talking about.
[05:54] <nickrud> well jeez, DAC1138 what do you expect, installing a beta and not seeing constant updates?
[05:55] <tcpdumpgod> lol
[05:55] <shadow420> well once I get my free cd I am goig full Hardy and maybe another OS like React OS
[05:55] <DAC1138> nickrud: yeah, you missed my entire point: ubuntu has been having updates every week since i started using hoary (i think that's the first i used)
[05:55] <DAC1138> nickrud: and every week, there's a 100+ mb update for openoffice, and more updates for apps i dont even use
[05:56] <DAC1138> nickrud: and i used to do all those updates, until it started ending up getting rediculous
[05:56] <dholbach> ggood morning
[05:56] <VeN0mizer> morning
[05:56] <tawt> morning
[05:56] <twistage> top of the morning james
[05:56] <shadow420> heh
[05:56] <karllenz_> i cant find a doc on file sharing
[05:56]  * nickrud refuses to ask the burning question
[05:56] <DAC1138> nickrud: i like that i can get weekly updates, but why don't the save the large downloads for monthly updates, like microsof tdoes?
[05:57] <nickrud> DAC1138 I prefer the regular updates, every bug fix is an improvement
[05:57] <Shubbar> heat sensor applet doesnt change temperature, CUP always at 40C
[05:57] <dn4ia> I just installed gnuplot-x11 onto my ubuntu machine and I cannot get the application to pop up
[05:57] <dn4ia> where is it?
[05:57] <bullgard4> DAC1138: Sometimes for security reasons.
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> DAC1138, because security things shouldn't have to wait for patch day
[05:57] <DAC1138> nickrud: i prefer regular updates too, just as long as the download doesnt turn out to be 300 MB total for that batch
[05:57] <Shubbar> how can i get the heat sensor applet working?
[05:58] <Gang> Is there anyone will install Ubuntu from Windows? Wubi.exe~
[05:58] <shadow420> !hardy
[05:58] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[05:58] <fserve> not i
[05:58] <VeN0mizer> I know this has been asked alot I'm sure but...will one with 1 gig of ram really notice _any_ improvements with using xfce4 over gnome? because memory usage reported both using 211mb of ram total after logging in and just running system resource monitor :/
[05:58] <fserve> and the next ubuntu
[05:58] <fserve> 8.10
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> and MS does things the way they do to prevent machines from having to be rebooted all the time.  here, you don't have to reboot with each patch, only on some (and even then i think you can get around it)
[05:58] <fserve> what name will have?
[05:58] <fserve> Ixxx Ixxx ?
[05:58] <roocraig> my sound card is:   ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 (rev 01), and I have sound out of my headphones but not my speakers. I have laptop speakers I want to use for external sound--I am a newbie and would like to get my sound working before the final release is ready--any help would be appreciated greatly :)
[05:58] <nickrud> VeN0mizer I wouldn't expect any, other than the native speed advantage
[05:59] <DAC1138> fserve: intrepid ibex?
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> fserve, intrepid ibex
[05:59] <fserve> hmm
[05:59] <VeN0mizer> native speed advantage?
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> the reason i'm no longer going to use the codenames
[05:59] <_Net> Need an opinion, anyone here tried Beryl for ubuntu before?
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> _Net, beryl's been dead for some time
[05:59] <akorn> Does anybody know what time 8.04's going to be out around?
[05:59] <fserve> i'm using compiz instead of beryl
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> akorn, read the topic
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> no, we don't know, so don't ask
[05:59] <nickrud> Daisuke_Ido only kernel and libc6 , everything else I've not had to reboot even when asked. (and I do find the request annoying at times)
[05:59] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[06:00] <_Net> Daisuke_Ido: I saw some video and it looks interesting, Is it worth playing with?
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> _Net, you're going to want compiz-fusion
[06:00] <Gang> akorn: All of us want to get the answer of the question, but.....
[06:00] <akorn> haha sorry
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> which is beryl and compiz re-merged
[06:00] <akorn> just a bit impatient ;)
[06:00] <Daisuke_Ido> and it's definitely worth it
[06:00] <_Net> Compiz and beryl?
[06:00] <CITguy> I'm sorry if this has already been asked. Is there a room for the ubuntu release?
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[06:01] <nickrud> CITguy see /topic
[06:01] <ariqs> look at topic
[06:01] <ariqs> sheesh
[06:01] <_Net> Are they seperate downloads or can I install them together
[06:01] <CITguy> thx, sry
[06:01] <yell0w> akorn: it's out
[06:01] <Gang> akorn: me too:)
[06:01] <therealnanotube> and while we're talking about 8.04 release... i will encourage everyone to use the torrents rather that ftp/http direct, to save the servers!
[06:01] <akorn> Gang hahaha
[06:01] <tawt> !timewhenhardywillbereleased
[06:01] <roocraig> anybody here good at sound issues in ubuntu?
[06:01] <VeN0mizer> hahaha it just says 'coming soon" now
[06:01] <VeN0mizer> gahhh
[06:01] <akorn> yellow the final isn't?
[06:01] <Daisuke_Ido> _Net, quick history: compiz was first, beryl forked from that and each focused on something different, then realized they would be better together, so they re-merged the branches and called it compiz-fusion
[06:01] <Dynamite> tawt: 11.62 am
[06:01] <yell0w> oh wait
[06:02] <tawt> dynamite ?
[06:02] <_Net> Ah.
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> Dynamite, the hell kind of clock are you using? :D
[06:02] <_Net> Thanks Daisuke_Ido
[06:02] <tawt> interesting clock system
[06:02] <akorn> yellow yea it's only the RC that's up
[06:02] <Daisuke_Ido> _Net, no problem.  if you're using 7.04 or newer, compiz-fusion is installed by default
[06:03] <roocraig> my sound card is:   ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 (rev 01), and I have sound out of my headphones but not my speakers. I have laptop speakers I want to use for external sound--I am a newbie and would like to get my sound working before the final release is ready--any help would be appreciated greatly :)
[06:03] <_Net> Oh Is it.
[06:03] <yell0w> gahh it's tricking me akorn
[06:03] <_Net> Daisuke_Ido: Im using 7.10
[06:03] <yell0w> :/
[06:03] <_Net> Do I just go sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion?
[06:03] <Daisuke_Ido> _Net, go to system > preferences > appearance
[06:03] <tawt> _Net use synaptic.  probably easier
[06:03] <_Net> Ah, Ok I'll try both.
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> and go to the desktop effects tab
[06:04] <akorn> yell0w hahaha yea it had me too
[06:04] <tawt> do daisuke first
[06:04] <redips> Hello all
[06:04] <akorn> jerks!
[06:04] <_Net> Should I select Normal or Extra
[06:04] <tawt> doesn't matter
[06:04] <Daisuke_Ido> try normal first, see if it works :)
[06:04] <john7121> wassup?
[06:04] <_Net> W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22/nvidia-glx-new_100.14.1
[06:05] <tawt> never seen that one before...
[06:05] <Daisuke_Ido> _Net, wha?
[06:05] <_Net> Gave me this error
[06:05] <nickrud> _Net probably a server error, was it a 404 or what?
[06:05] <robotzz> when is this 804 bad boy coming out? "coming soon" wtf is that doodoo
[06:05] <nickrud> !isitout
[06:05] <ubotu> isitout is The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[06:05] <_Net> Could not connect to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (129.97.134.71). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[06:05] <KeithWeisshar> when is the final version of wubi coming out
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> robotzz, it's the answer you're getting, so sit back and be good like everyone else
[06:06] <milia> robotzz, it is out atm
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> KeithWeisshar, with any luck, never
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> milia, no, it is not.
[06:06] <_Net> nickrud: Ya
[06:06] <robotzz> milia,  link?
[06:06] <milia> downloaded it last night and now i'm downloading the updates
[06:06] <jericho> is the baker and howland islands thing a joke?
[06:06] <KeithWeisshar> is wubi still in beta
[06:06] <john7121> HH4evr
[06:06] <milia> robotzz, i got the rc
[06:06] <tidrion> where is 8.04?
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> milia, you downloaded the RC
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> For all Ubuntu 8.04 release anticipation, please head to #ubuntu-release-party.  #ubuntu is a support channel ONLY, even during exciting times.  :)
[06:06] <Daisuke_Ido> the final is not out
[06:06] <nickrud> _Net server error then. You could try a new mirror, or wait till the server is synced up
[06:06] <milia> Daisuke_Ido, so?
[06:06] <CITguy> _Net: the ubuntu repositories are slowed to a crawl due to the impatient upgraders
[06:07] <milia> the final will be rc +upgrades
[06:07] <milia> :>
[06:07] <_Net> CITguy: Haha I had a feeling.
[06:07] <nickrud> milia so, if you're up to date you most likely have the final
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> might as well say the final will be 7.10 + upgrades
[06:07] <roocraig> can i pc anybody about sound issues?
[06:07] <john7121> use bittorrent
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> the RC is not the final
[06:07] <robotzz> hehe in that case milia rc<final
[06:07] <milia> nickrud, i guess that's how it goes:)
[06:07] <Daisuke_Ido> end of story
[06:07] <byob> hi
[06:07] <milia> robotzz, true :)
[06:07] <milia> Daisuke_Ido, sure
[06:08] <MEtaLpREs> is the hardy final in the repositories for upgrades now?
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[06:08] <kindofabuzz> anyword on the hardy wireless bugs?
[06:08] <john7121> m$ kics linux ass
[06:08] <CITguy> MEtaLpREs: no, but people apparently think that they can force an upgrade
[06:08] <alexsabree> i hardy out yet?
[06:08] <roocraig> Can anyone help me with sound issue?
[06:08] <Geoffrey2> hmm, probably no surprise here...I have a rather new PCI express chip from ATI, so obviously compiz-fusion won't work.....
[06:08] <megatog615> lol john7121
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> For all Ubuntu 8.04 release anticipation, please head to #ubuntu-release-party.  #ubuntu is a support channel ONLY, even during exciting times.  :)
[06:08] <MEtaLpREs> wouldnt the upgrade only get them to the rc then?
[06:09] <alexsabree> Geoffrey2 you need latest drivers
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[06:09] <alexsabree> its not compiz
[06:09] <alexsabree> its ur gpu drivers
[06:09] <robbies> what version of firefox will be in 8.04?
[06:09] <Geoffrey2> alexsabree, I know...it's ATI......
[06:09] <robbies> the beta of firefox 3?
[06:10] <kindofabuzz> beta 5
[06:10] <CyanFlux> robbies: 3 beta 5
[06:10] <nickrud> robbies latest beta and latest 2.x
[06:10] <DAC1138> lol. ubuntu is the only distro with more than one room for it's fans
[06:10] <DAC1138> its fans, sorry needs no '
[06:10] <robbies> nickrud: which one by default?
[06:10] <Gang> Go out for lunch. Hope that I can see 8.04 after I back to lab:)
[06:10] <kindofabuzz> beta 5
[06:10] <nickrud> robbies beta
[06:10] <CITguy> anybody know of a way to get a full list of apps installed for reinstallation after upgrade?
[06:10] <robbies> i heard that firefox will finally use the linux themes buttons, etc.
[06:10] <robbies> instead of those ugly box ones
[06:10] <roocraig> my sound card is:   ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 (rev 01), and I have sound out of my headphones but not my speakers. I have laptop speakers I want to use for external sound--I am a newbie and would like to get my sound working before the final release is ready--any help would be appreciated greatly :)
[06:10] <Daisuke_Ido> DAC1138, there's this one, +1, kubuntu, xubuntu, the release party...  get everyone in all of the channels in one place and it would be chaos :D
[06:10] <nickrud> !clone | CITguy
[06:10] <Miesco> When does Unbuntu 8 come out?
[06:10] <ubotu> CITguy: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[06:11] <kindofabuzz> 6 months
[06:11] <robbies> OMG ITS OUT!!!!
[06:11] <nickrud> CITguy but, you don't have to reinstall, the update manager will ask if you want to upgrade in place
[06:11] <mrkeishii> can't wait
[06:11] <Dynamite> robbies: stop it. :(
[06:11] <_Net> Oh just one last question, whats everyone's opinion of this Backtrack thing
[06:11] <kindofabuzz> if you have wireless, don't upgrade
[06:11] <nickrud> !offtopic | _Net
[06:11] <DAC1138> Daisuke_Ido: yeah, it's already chaos in here during normal US daylight hours
[06:11] <ubotu> _Net: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:11] <_Net> Offtopic?
[06:11] <mrkeishii> man
[06:11] <kindofabuzz> well if you depend on wireless
[06:11] <Daisuke_Ido> kindofabuzz, that's purely opinion
[06:11] <CITguy> Is there ANY chance of my system breaking when upgrading?
[06:11] <mrkeishii> ...
[06:11] <karllenz_> whats the difference between nfs and samba?
[06:11] <_Net> I thought backtrack was part of linux
[06:12] <yell0w> CITguy: yes
[06:12] <mrkeishii> what is samba
[06:12] <nickrud> CITguy yes, it's possible especially if you have third party stuff installed
[06:12] <JPSman> can I use an ethernet cable to connect to the net through another computer that is using wireless to connect
[06:12] <JPSman> ?
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> intel 4965 and 3945 work just fine
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> atheros is fine too
[06:12] <robbies> JPSman: yes, but it requires some configuration
[06:12] <kindofabuzz> samba can use the MS network, nfs doesn't
[06:12] <JPSman> Robbies: do you know what I mean?
[06:12] <robbies> JPSman: you would also need a patch cable unless you were using a switch or hub
[06:12] <Daisuke_Ido> kindofabuzz, but windows clients can be set up to use nfs (which is so much more stable)
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> oh ok
[06:13] <robbies> JPSman: i know exactly what you mean, i have a patch cable going from my PC to my xbox
[06:13] <Geoffrey2> where exactly do you get updated drivers for ATI from?
[06:13] <mrkeishii> wow
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> takes work on the windows side though (installing services for unix)
[06:13] <mrkeishii> what is samba?
[06:13] <kindofabuzz> i don't see that going pretty
[06:13] <robbies> samba is the pet name for my penis
[06:13] <nickrud> Geoffrey2 ati.amd.com, but if you wait for hardy you'll have the latest ati in a nice shiny package
[06:13] <CITguy> Geoffrey2: have you tried ATI's website?
[06:13] <Daisuke_Ido> kindofabuzz, works really welll
[06:13] <Starnestommy> mrkeishii: it lets linux serve windows shares
[06:13] <mrkeishii> dude
[06:13] <roocraig> Can anyone help me with a sound issue I have? Please :)
[06:13] <CITguy> lol, gmta
[06:13] <owen1> mrkeishii: file server for windows-linuxk
[06:13] <nickrud> !language | robbies
[06:13] <ubotu> robbies: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[06:14] <mrkeishii> okay
[06:14] <JPSman> Robbies:  CompA---ethernet---CompB-^    <-wireless
[06:14] <mrkeishii> cool
[06:14] <schweeb> Daisuke_Ido: NFS is mor esimple, not more stable
[06:14] <owen1> mrkeishii: what do u need?
[06:14] <robbies> JPSman: the computer connected via wireless would essentially be acting as a bridge
[06:14] <schweeb> Daisuke_Ido: big diff.
[06:14] <Daisuke_Ido> schweeb, if you're actually trying to tell me samba is more stable, i laugh at thee
[06:14] <JPSman> Robbies: ok cool so it IS possible...is there documentation on it?
[06:14] <robbies> JPSman: if you setup internet sharing, then you can use a patch cable, requiring no hub or switch
[06:14] <owen1> mrkeishii: if u want to share files between linux machines u can use NFS. it's easy.
[06:14] <jericho> Can I connect my Texas Instrument calculator to ubuntu?
[06:14] <KyleK> hey so when I wake up tomorrow I'll be able to ask hardy questions in here?
[06:15] <robbies> JPSman: do you want to do this with ubuntu?
[06:15] <JPSman> yes
[06:15] <Daisuke_Ido> KyleK, assuming it's been released
[06:15] <KyleK> jericho: why not?
[06:15] <schweeb> Daisuke_Ido: I know from experience.
[06:15] <Daisuke_Ido> schweeb, same
[06:15] <schweeb> Daisuke_Ido: ever had a system with stale NFS mounts
[06:15] <Daisuke_Ido> it's a bit of a pain
[06:15] <roocraig> SOUND HELP ANYBODY?
[06:15] <owen1> does xubuntu have a pdf viewer?
[06:15] <jericho> KyleK: well and get it able to recognize it too
[06:15] <nickrud> jericho there's the tilp and tilp2 packages, one of those might work for you
[06:15] <robbies> owenl: yes
[06:15] <schweeb> you're quite wrong. NFS is simple, samba, once you get it working is more stable
[06:15] <jericho> nickrud: ok thanks
[06:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i've used both, and i find that i'm riht.
[06:16] <Daisuke_Ido> right*
[06:16] <KyleK> heh all i have is the old ti83+ with serial cable
[06:16] <mrkeishii> u think it will be out around 6 in the morning est?
[06:16] <Rusted> Hey
[06:16] <schweeb> NFS, except for v4 is not recommended by anyone with a shred of credibility
[06:16] <JosephEddy> hi
[06:16] <schweeb> v4 is passable
[06:16] <Rusted> I need help
[06:16] <Daisuke_Ido> schweeb, again, your opinion
[06:16] <roocraig> I need help
[06:16] <kindofabuzz> who cares?
[06:16] <nickrud> !ot | nfs
[06:16] <ubotu> nfs: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:17] <owen1> schweeb: i am using the 8.04 version. is it ok?
[06:17] <Daisuke_Ido> my opinion is that nfs is better, yours is that samba's better
[06:17] <kindofabuzz> some systems samba may be more stable, some nfs may be
[06:17] <owen1> schweeb: i mean, the one that comes with hardy.
[06:17] <sexcopter> is this a good room to ask about a hardware issue?
[06:17] <Daisuke_Ido> mrkeishii, read the topic, we don't know exactly when it's coming out.
[06:17] <john7121> please for when is the Hardy Heron to be released into the wild?
[06:17] <yell0w> !ask > sexcopter
[06:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ...
[06:17] <nickrud> isitout
[06:17] <Rusted> I upgraded to version 8,04 hardy and my usb headset quit working how can I get it to work again
[06:18] <fserve> : D
[06:18] <jedimasterk> Is the Final out yet
[06:18] <Daisuke_Ido> john7121, like i JUST SAID, read the topic, we don't know when it's coming out
[06:18] <nickrud> !isitout (I'm gonna put this on a 7.5 minute repeat .... )
[06:18] <sheleztt> and... where is the 8.04 final release? I see only rc..
[06:18] <kindofabuzz> omg i gotta get out of here.
[06:18] <Daisuke_Ido> ah christ
[06:18] <nickrud> !isitout | all (I'm gonna put this on a 7.5 minute repeat .... )
[06:18] <ubotu> all (I'm gonna put this on a 7.5 minute repeat .... ): isitout is The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[06:18] <langdonlibido> I'm having trouble my wireless card
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[06:18] <sheleztt> everbody's going crazy:)
[06:18] <prateek> Does aptitude dist-upgrade actually do a distribution upgrade (I'd rather do it from a console running inside screen, rather than using a GUI app)?
[06:18] <kindofabuzz> howland islands? lol where is that?
[06:18] <Daisuke_Ido> kindofabuzz, GMT
[06:18] <roocraig> my sound card is:   ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 (rev 01), and I have sound out of my headphones but not my speakers. I have laptop speakers I want to use for external sound--I am a newbie and would like to get my sound working before the final release is ready--any help would be appreciated greatly :)
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> roocraig, you keep repeating that.  if no one's answered you, probably no one here at the moment knows
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> so be patient.
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> i though ubuntu was african lol
[06:19] <Daisuke_Ido> kindofabuzz, i was just guessing on location
[06:19] <nickrud> prateek yes, but you would be better off with  do-release-upgrade , it does some checks that aptitude dist-upgrade doesn't (and don't ask me exactly what they are, I'm just parroting the uber-geeks)
[06:19] <kindofabuzz> i'm just being silly
[06:19] <yell0w> kindofabuzz: it is an african word
[06:20] <langdonlibido> I've troubleshooted the wireless card, and I can't figure out how to enable it.
[06:20] <sexcopter> I'm on a Dell Optiplex which is set up as dual boot (windows and ubuntu) and ubuntu is default option. Has worked fine up until yesterday. Now, after the bios splash screen I get the message "keyboard failure" (note, I have a logitech wireless keyboard) and no keyboard response in grub, which takes me to ubuntu. From there, the keyboard is working fine! Can anyone figure this out?
[06:20] <prateek> nickrud: Thanks.
[06:20] <roocraig> i am trying to be patient--thanks for the courtesy message
[06:20] <ripps> Ubuntu 9.04 will totally be named Jolly Jackal
[06:20] <milia> lol
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[06:21] <kindofabuzz> whe is 9.04 gonna be relesed? =)
[06:21] <tawt> i agree
[06:21] <jedimasterk> Is the Final out yet
[06:21] <langdonlibido> Can anyone help with activating my wireless card, it's a broadcom
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> kindofabuzz: April of 2009, just like the name says.
[06:21] <owen1> i just got xubuntu and can't open pdfs. anyone?
[06:21] <ripps> April 2009
[06:21] <tawt> lol  the fourth month of next year
[06:21] <JosephEddy> how do you do an upgrade without reinstalling the system?
[06:21] <yell0w> owen1: evince ?
[06:21] <nickrud> owen1 you could install either evince or xpdf
[06:22] <nickrud> !upgrade | JosephEddy
[06:22] <ubotu> JosephEddy: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:22] <KyleK> ubuntu 99.4 was the best, its been downhill ever since
[06:22] <owen1> yell0w: nickrud: i wonder why it's not coming by default..
[06:22] <kindofabuzz> to 90% of the questions here's the answer:  www.google.com
[06:22] <dxdt> sup jeff__
[06:22] <Rusted> can anyone help me get my headset to work
[06:22] <langdonlibido> How do I enable a wireless card?
[06:22] <TuxPWNZ> Congratulations everybody for the newborn baby!!! :D
[06:22] <nickrud> owen1 not sure, I've never installed xubuntu. I'd think there would be one of those ...
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> KyleK, do you have the slightest idea what you're talking about? :)
[06:22] <jeff__> not much
[06:22] <JPSman> kindofabuzz: that isn't the spirit of Ubuntu
[06:22] <kindofabuzz> lol
[06:22] <yell0w> owen1: evince comes default with ubuntu, don't know about xubuntu
[06:22] <DracoZA> TuxPWNZ, were still in labor...
[06:22] <kindofabuzz> well i meant to the basic questions
[06:23] <benpete22> WHEN IS 8.04 COMING OUT
[06:23] <owen1> nickrud: yell0w: thanks
[06:23] <nickrud> !google | kindofabuzz
[06:23] <ubotu> kindofabuzz: google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux
[06:23] <ripps> a matter of hours]
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> JPSman, it is when 90% of the current questions are "OMFG IS IT OUT YET???LOL"
[06:23] <TuxPWNZ> DracoZA: Huh?
[06:23] <Amaranth> benpete22: Don't do that
[06:23] <roocraig> when I go to espn.com and see a video, i see the play button and need to click on it to play any animation, how do I make the video play automatically?
[06:23] <Amaranth> benpete22: #ubuntu-release-party
[06:23] <KyleK> benpete22: dont bother staying up
[06:23] <JPSman> !google JPSman
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google jpsman - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <JPSman> !google | JPSman
[06:23] <langdonlibido> Am I being ignored or is their some freak connection issue?
[06:24] <KyleK> langdonlibido: maybe
[06:24] <nickrud> JPSman you can check out ubotu's messages privately, /msg ubotu factoid
[06:24] <langdonlibido> w00t!
[06:24] <JPSman> k
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> so can i still get gutsy support in here after today? lol
[06:24] <langdonlibido> First time in IRC, wanted to make sure I wasn't talking to myself
[06:24] <nickrud> !wireless | langdonlibido
[06:24] <ubotu> langdonlibido: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:24] <Amaranth> kindofabuzz: Sure, but probably not for a couple days
[06:24] <dxdt> kindofabuzz: yeah pretty much.  The only bumping that happens is that the next version's support will be in #ubuntu+1
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> lol
[06:24] <Amaranth> We'll be swamped with upgrade questions
[06:24] <langdonlibido> Thanks, that url looks farmiliar but I'll try again =D
[06:24] <TuxPWNZ> Congratulations everybody for the newborn Ubuntu!!! :D
[06:25] <bitraiser> I'd like to share a song I'm listening to right now, reminds me so much of how I'm longing for Hardy Heron to be released...see if anyone knows what song it really is and google for its lyrics to understand the meaning :)            http://www.filecrunch.com/fileDownload.php?sub=e37526fad3fce9522dd04eeab31e33db&fileId=141820                                            - LET's ALL PARTY!! :D  (Reminder: It's in .OGG format)  :D
[06:25] <Rusted> I have tried everything I read in the blogs to get my headset to work, but things changed with the hardy version of ubuntu so none of it works
[06:25] <kindofabuzz> <--not upgrading
[06:25] <letterman> how do I kill xserver from console and return to a command shell?
[06:25] <nickrud> langdonlibido I'm lucky, my card Works for Me™
[06:25] <tiger74> TuxPWNZ: when will we get the HH?
[06:25] <Amaranth> bitraiser: Don't do that
[06:25] <coraline> um.
[06:25] <KyleK> letterman: /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[06:25] <Amaranth> bitraiser: Also, #ubuntu-release-party
[06:25] <coraline> wonky.
[06:25] <dxdt> KyleK: that is clever
[06:25] <coraline> how didst I end up here?
[06:25] <JPSman> Does anyone know how I could connect to the net by    CompA---ethernet---CompB-^    <-wireless
[06:25] <one_tao> letterman Alt+F7
[06:25] <Flashq009> hello all, I cannot find the link to ubuntu 8.04 latest  on the website to download.
[06:25] <TuxPWNZ> tiger74: It's already out today man. :)
[06:26] <langdonlibido> haha, it took me like an hour to figure out how to enable the restricted driver, it almost worked for a second, and now it died again =(
[06:26] <insmod> <letterman> killall -9
[06:26] <nickrud> Flashq009 not out yet, will be out before midnight last time zone
[06:26] <kindofabuzz> Flashq009: did you think, hey maybe because it's not there?
[06:26] <tiger74> TuxPWNZ: but in ubuntu.com it said "Coming Soon"
[06:26] <Flashq009> darn
[06:26] <coraline> who are you people and how did you get into my computer?
[06:26] <tiger74> I can't wait anymore :D
[06:26] <KyleK> haha
[06:26] <Rusted> can someone please help me
[06:26] <kindofabuzz> i gotta get out of here lol
[06:26] <nickrud> Rusted what's the question?
[06:26] <KyleK> I installed 64bit fiesty and then updated to hardy just a few days ago
[06:27] <KyleK> still need ndiswrapper or working wifi drivers for my card
[06:27] <phishie> coraline: u r in irc
[06:27] <Rusted> thanks nick
[06:27] <Rusted> I got a usb headset
[06:27] <one_tao> kylek that's a release candidate yes?
[06:27]  * nickrud is getting sorta peeved, thinking bout kicking people to offtopic
[06:27] <TuxPWNZ> tiger74: No, just visit it now, it's not "coming soon" anymore. :)
[06:27] <roocraig> how long should it take to upgrade to final release of hardy if upgrading from 8.04rc?
[06:27] <coraline> urinirc
[06:27] <Rusted> and I got it to work with gutsy
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> roocraig, you'll be there by the time it's released
[06:27] <bitraiser> Amaranth, i know, i'm there too, I just want to make sure everyone can listen to that song and be ready when hardy comes out :D can't wait
[06:27] <coraline> what is that?
[06:27] <erat123> 8.04 IS ALMOST HERE!!!!!!! WOOO HOOO!!!!
[06:27] <nickrud> roocraig depends on how fast your net is, how much extra you installed. abt least 700mb download
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> chances are, you're already there
[06:28] <Rusted> but I upgraded to hardy and it doesn't work anymore
[06:28] <Amaranth> bitraiser: Don't do that though
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[06:28] <dima_> Hello, I need help setup video on ubuntu 7.10? , When I try to use restricted driver, I hear the sound it should make when it gets to login screen but my monitor is constantly popping up recommended resolution 1680x1050
[06:28] <coraline> jjjfjfjhelp
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[06:28] <phishie> coraline, you are not joking are you?
[06:28] <nickrud> coraline stop doing that
[06:28] <phishie> lol
[06:28] <Rusted> so my question is how do I get my usb headset to work with hardy
[06:28] <nickrud> Rusted I don't know sound in the least, sorry
[06:28] <Daisuke_Ido> bitraiser, i haven't downloaded it, but i'm guessing a parody of sunshine of your love?
[06:28] <roocraig> anyone can help me with a sound issue-headphone sound but no laptop speaker sound-thanks
[06:28] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[06:29] <coraline> l;kjl;afkjaflsk;jklsafjkldfajlk;
[06:29] <bitraiser> Daisuke_Ido, yeah! you've got it! *applauds* :D
[06:29] <one_tao> Rusted, have you tried another usb port?
[06:29] <tiger74> coraline: type /quit
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> tiger74, not how things are done here.
[06:29] <dima_> Anyone have any expeience with Ubuntu and video for Radeon x series?
[06:29] <Flannel> !hardy | pawan
[06:29] <ubotu> pawan: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[06:29] <tiger74> Daisuke_Ido: sorry :)
[06:29] <bitraiser> Daisuke_Ido, not the studio version..the real stuff..live, back in the days when they had a tour stop in California :P
[06:30] <Rusted> yeah I have tried several usb ports and it makes a the ubuntu type sound when I plug it in, but nothing after that no sound from any program
[06:30] <abu_rashid> hello, can anyone tell me how long until 8.04 will be released?
[06:30] <roocraig> anyone have experience with flash?
[06:30] <KyleK> abu_rashid: nope
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> can no one read?
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> honestly
[06:30] <XceII> +0 by ubuntu
[06:30] <Rusted> even though I have the headset selected as a default sound device
[06:30] <XceII> hehe
[06:30] <dxdt> Daisuke_Ido: it is like this every release
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> dxdt, yeah, and i get irritated every release
[06:30] <insmod> <roocraig>in what way
[06:30] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[06:30] <KyleK> one_tao: yup, theres not much difference really, but wait for final to download an ISO
[06:30] <dxdt> Daisuke_Ido: haha
[06:30] <abu_rashid> daisuke, we're illiterate, that's why we came to ask the sages
[06:30] <nickrud> Daisuke_Ido so, take a break till tomorrow, it'll be fun then
[06:31] <DracoZA> roocraig, im a flasher, whats up ?
[06:31] <one_tao> rusted, sorry I don't know. anyone know how to search for new hardware?
[06:31] <dima_> I have been working on my problem for 2 days straight
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> nickrud, i'm going to do what i do at every release
[06:31] <karllenz_> how do i mount /dev/hdb1
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> leave for two weeks
[06:31] <nickrud> hahahhahaha
[06:31] <tiger74> karllenz_: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> because i don't have the patience :D
[06:31] <roocraig> I go to espn.com for example and want to see the videos, but I see a play button and need to click on it to play--how do I get the videos to play automatically?
[06:31] <one_tao> kylek, thank you.
[06:31] <coraline> what does this program do?
[06:31] <yell0w> roocraig: grease monkey ?
[06:31] <nickrud> Daisuke_Ido I got corralled into being very busy this next few weeks, but it's funnnnn!!!
[06:31] <DracoZA> roocraig, 7.10 ?
[06:32] <Rusted> it is detecting the headset, but I can't hear sound through it
[06:32] <roocraig> 8.04rc
[06:32] <coraline> this goes by too fast
[06:32] <langdonlibido> I have a Gateway Laptop with a Broadcom wireless, how do I enable it?
[06:32] <undecim> Does anybody know why it would take my file browser, firefox, etc, about 30 seconds to appear after I hit the button after having my system running for a while?
[06:32] <peabody> wtbh
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[06:32] <one_tao> coraline, it let's us talk and learn
[06:32] <karllenz_> tiger74: says dev/hdb1 command not found
[06:32] <nickrud> coraline yes, it is fast. You should put the nick of the person you're addressing in the line, it makes it easier to see
[06:32] <letterman> ok so I'm trying to install a nvidia driver so I can see more than a quarter of my screen
[06:32] <letterman> so I boot into runlevel 1
[06:33] <XceII> lettermandavid is a shill.
[06:33] <coraline> i don't know nick
[06:33] <karllenz_> tiger74: ok i got it
[06:33] <dima_> fglrx problem here, my monitor detects the video like 100 times a minute but nothing on the display ;(
[06:33] <nickrud> undecim look in /etc/hosts, make sure you have a line like   127.0.1.1 <hostname>
[06:33] <nickrud> coraline coraline is your nick, nickrud is mine
[06:33] <JosephEddy> langdonlibido | all I know is that it's extremely complicated and long process
[06:33] <letterman> I try to install the driver and it says "You need to run this in runlevel 3".. so I init runlevel and I'm in xwindows and it says, "This driver cannot be installed while Xwindows is running"
[06:33] <coraline> ok.
[06:34] <letterman> how do I exit Xwindows so that I have a usable console?
[06:34] <dima_> uhuh
[06:34] <letterman> without leaving my current runlevel?
[06:34] <karllenz_> where is mnt?
[06:34] <dxdt> letterman: I get the feeling you are trying to install the driver directly from nvidia's site rather than from the built in ways which are easier.  I would use those first unless you know why you are doing it from their site.
[06:34] <undecim> nickrud: Yes, it's there
[06:34] <nickrud> letterman clt-alt-f2 , log in. run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop. do the nvidia stuff. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start , alt-clt-f7 to get back to gui if needed
[06:34] <whta> most of my updates are giving me a 404. what's up?
[06:34] <dxdt> karllenz_: /mnt
[06:34] <one_tao> letterman, did you try alt f7?
[06:34] <karllenz_> dxdt:  but i dont see the hd on my desk top
[06:34] <XceII> sudo apt get exit nbsbc
[06:34] <nickrud> undecim that's the most common reason ... is    hostname   in a terminal the same?
[06:35] <XceII> j/k
[06:35] <langdonlibido> Argh, any tips for how I should start my search? still trying to activate broadcam wireless on gateway laptop
[06:35] <Bryan_> I had been stopping some services before suspend, that I thought where hanging suspend. I now know that wasn't it, but I think disableing them is messing with them when I return from suspend. Where is the file that allows you to turn off a given service before suspending
[06:35] <letterman> does C-A F7 work in KDE?
[06:35] <letterman> cause I'm not using gnome
[06:35] <nickrud> letterman yes, and use kdm instead of gdm
[06:35] <XceII> enjoy
[06:36] <letterman> k, I'll try that
[06:36] <undecim> nickrud: it has a domain appended to it in the file, but the sub domain is the same as my prompt
[06:36] <akorn> where is my firefox folder?
[06:36] <undecim> nickrud: I Usually only have this problem when my computer has been on for a few days
[06:36] <nickrud> undecim you should not have a domain appended in /etc/hostname , or the /etc/hosts line
[06:36] <akorn> with the FF2 folder inside
[06:36] <whta> why are my updates all giving me 404 errors? i need to download a video driver but i can't.
[06:37] <dborozo> Hey has anyone been able to get the nvidia driver to work with hardy?
[06:37] <Bryan_> dborozo, I have.
[06:37] <XceII> I hand it to the writers of 8.04 compix. it flat r0xors, thx
[06:37] <nickrud> undecim unless your machine is directly connected to the net, with a dns pointing at it iirc
[06:37] <XceII> compiz
[06:37] <roocraig> what player plays the video clips on espn.com for example?
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[06:37] <undecim> nickrud: okay, I'll remove that then. Is there a command I have to run to get it to recognize the change or anything?
[06:37] <Fade2Blk> whas the new version of ubuntu released?
[06:37] <nickrud> !hostname | undecim
[06:37] <ubotu> undecim: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[06:37] <akorn> Anybody know where my firefox folder is, with the ff2 folder inside of it?
[06:38] <nickrud> akorn for your personal settings?  ~/.mozilla/firefox
[06:38] <XceII> Im writing my letter of resignation to micro$oft. Dear micro$oft, U suck. end.
[06:38] <karllenz_> n anyone help me get a blank ext3 hdd mounted
[06:38] <kuru> how do I make it so all files created by www-data are automatically chmod to 644 ?
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[06:38] <coraline> this is crazy
[06:38] <letterman> ok so the driver won't install that way either
[06:39] <akorn> nickrud man, am i ever dumb...
[06:39] <LoLeN> when will ubuntu 8 will be available?
[06:39] <akorn> nickrud haha i forgot, it's owned by mozilla.....................................
[06:39] <LoLeN> any mirror has it yet?
[06:39] <akorn> nickrud thanks hahaha
[06:39] <ripps> !isitout
[06:39] <ubotu> isitout is The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[06:39] <one_tao> karllenz_ you can't mount a blank drive.
[06:39] <tiger74> !flash
[06:39] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:39] <karllenz_> its got a partition on it
[06:39] <akorn> ripps join #ubuntu-release-party
[06:39] <karllenz_> one_tao: its got a partiotion on it
[06:39] <one_tao> karllenz_ k filesystem ?
[06:39] <ripps> already have, that was my response to the person who asked
[06:39] <robbies> i found a way to get 8.04 early! go into your console and type 'ping ubuntu.com -s 31337'
[06:40] <karllenz_> ext3
[06:40] <letterman> Here's the error log: http://www.pastebin.org/31661
[06:40] <karllenz_> i can see it in gparted
[06:40] <LoLeN> robbies: whta does this do?
[06:40] <undecim> nickrud: It works! Thank you so much!
[06:40] <karllenz_> one_tao: i can see it in gparted
[06:40] <letterman> Is there anything else I can do to fix this?
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> LoLeN: Nothing interesting.  Ignore him.
[06:40] <one_tao> karllenz_ do you know if it's /dev/hda1 or ?
[06:40] <ther3p0z> hey all
[06:40] <letterman> I need to support a nvidia GeForce 7050 HD chipset
[06:40] <LoLeN> ...
[06:40] <nickrud> undecim you're welcome
[06:40] <fserve> does someone know where i can get bind9 ? i removed from my system and now i cant use webbrowsers *_*
[06:41] <ther3p0z> Just got skype 2.0 working 64bit, cool eh?
[06:41] <XceII> Have a good day folks, god bles and ...Get the party on 4 hardy!!!
[06:41] <karllenz_> yea gparted says mountpoint /media, /mnt
[06:41] <SuperRoach> skype is in 64bit now? nice
[06:41] <karllenz_> one_tao: gparted says mount point /media /mnt
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[06:41] <Bryan_> how to you stop a service before suspend?
[06:42] <fserve> can someone send me bind9 deb package ? i removed from my system and now i cant use webbrowsers *_*
[06:42] <Gnuklear> coraline: this is SPARTA
[06:42] <one_tao> karllenz_ ok from a command line here's what I do dmesg |grep MB
[06:42] <dborozo> Can someone explain to me how to get the nvidia driver working in hardy?
[06:42] <letterman> dborozo: same problem here
[06:42] <one_tao> this tells me what /dev it is
[06:42] <LoLeN> Gnuklear> coraline: this is SPARTA: lol
[06:42] <Bryan_> dborozo, what card is it?
[06:42] <akorn> Anybody know why i can't install the new Google Earth .bin file??
[06:42] <dborozo> 6600
[06:42] <letterman> mine is a 7050
[06:42] <Bryan_> dborozo, did you do a dist upgrade, or a fresh install?
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> dborozo: #ubuntu+1 for development versions
[06:42] <akorn> It says  "Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file."
[06:43] <one_tao> then I do sudo mount /dev/hxxx /media
[06:43] <dborozo> originally dist update
[06:43] <dborozo> but then fresh install after i couldn't get it working
[06:43] <karllenz_> one_tao:  dmesg says unable to turn on colling device
[06:43] <letterman> I did a fresh install as well
[06:43] <Bryan_> did you try the 'beta'
[06:43] <dborozo> tried via hardware manager and via envyng
[06:43] <Bryan_> I say 'beta' becuase it seems to work better than the 'stable' version
[06:43] <dborozo> no haven't tried the beta
[06:43] <one_tao> karllenz_ hm sorry don't know what is colling device
[06:43] <Bryan_> dborozo, go to nvidia and download 173
[06:43] <dborozo> only available via manual install?
[06:43] <Bryan_> yeah
[06:43] <Bryan_> but it's painless
[06:43] <dborozo> k i'll try it thanks
[06:43] <karllenz_> one_tao: acpi eror
[06:43] <dborozo> yeah i've done it in the past
[06:44] <Bryan_> it's what worked for me lol
[06:44] <Bryan_> I had done a dist upgrade, but didn't want to do a fresh install. So I just did a apt-get remove nvidia-* and then installed the beta. BOOM problem solved.
[06:44] <XceII> Polish off (Amarok) and the folks @ ubuntu will be over whelmed in (droves)...thats a fact... you now know. kthx
[06:44] <dborozo> i heard something about not being able to use the terminals via the function keys when you use that
[06:44] <tifine> how to install vnc viewer on ubuntu
[06:45] <Bryan_> sudo apt-get install vncviewer
[06:45] <madrazr> Hi all
[06:45] <XceII> hi
[06:45] <JosephEddy> hi
[06:45] <eeguy> hi
[06:45] <madrazr> I know all are as anxious as I am
[06:45] <bjbm> bah not out yet
[06:45] <tifine> Brandon_, i installed that one but it doesnt work
[06:45] <madrazr> when can we see Hardy Final on servers and mirrors?
[06:45] <madrazr> anyone has the idea of time?
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> No, we do not know what time 8.04 will be released.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[06:46] <tifine> Brandon_, do you know any graphics vnc for ubuntu
[06:46] <madrazr> tonyyarusso: fine thanks and sorry too
[06:46] <one_tao> karlenz. google says nothing about colling device
[06:46] <bjbm> what is the reason for the version numbers? ie x.04 and x.10?
[06:46] <Deathserver> need
[06:46] <inkynoo1> How can I install a command line only version of Ubuntu? I don't wany any servers or anything running
[06:46] <Deathserver> need
[06:46] <tiger74> bjbm: it's year and month
[06:46] <Deathserver> help
[06:46] <one_tao> version numbers is month
[06:46] <bjbm> OH
[06:47] <tiger74> inkynoo1: you can try minibuntu
[06:47] <fserve> can someone send me bind9 deb package ? i removed from my system and now i cant use webbrowsers *_*
[06:47] <XceII> madrazr:  ive been running it for 60 days, it flat rocks
[06:47] <bcnaat> how to apt-get firefox2 in hardy - I hate firefox3 beta
[06:47] <one_tao> as in 200EIGHT april is OH FOUR
[06:47] <bjbm> anyone running 64bit?
[06:47] <madrazr> XceII: I am eager to know about the final one
[06:47] <joanki> sometimes when i am doing stuff on my computer, it gets REAL sluggish for no apparent reason. has anyone experienced this?
[06:47] <Starnestommy> fserve: fix your /etc/resolv.conf
[06:47] <XceII> I guess they are waiting on mazilla
[06:47] <bcnaat> joanki: I've noticed that it does get slow on occasion, too
[06:48] <inkynoo1> thanks
[06:48] <eeguy> joanki: What gets sluggish? FF3?
[06:48] <joanki> bcnaat, do you think it's open office?
[06:48] <joanki> it happens a lot when i have been using open office
[06:48] <XceII> mazilla breaks 2 fast if you dont know a work around
[06:48] <fserve> Starnestommy, how? : (
[06:48] <one_tao> I tried 64 bit server - 7.10, quite buggy
[06:48] <letterman> why would this installer tell me I don't have libc installed
[06:48] <bcnaat> joanki: not sure but ever since I did use OO earlier today things have really gotten slower on my machine
[06:48] <letterman> is it really not installed by default?
[06:48] <joanki> weird , eh
[06:48] <Starnestommy> fserve: add a new "nameserver" line with IPs of DNS servers, like 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[06:49] <fserve> hmm, ok
[06:49] <Deathserver> i install flash then the links on some sites are blacked out why any help ?
[06:49] <bjbm> im curious about 64bit, but can't justify the usability and stability
[06:49] <XceII> other than that, 8.04 seems light speed.
[06:49] <Deathserver> been workin on it for days
[06:50] <one_tao> I have 64 bit procs, just don't like the os
[06:50] <Deathserver> and i cant get it to uninstall
[06:50] <fserve> Starnestommy, very thank you, solved.
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[06:51] <sdakak> Audio in flash videos use to work till NOW. But now it has stopped working. I can play other audio files though. I tried --purging and reinstalling flash to no avail.
[06:51] <milly1234> does anyone here have more then one video input device  and both work, for example a webcam and a tv tuner card
[06:51] <XceII> I donate monthly to ubuntu, way cheaper than the slave wages that bill exasperates through necessity of crappy updates that do nothing.
[06:51] <bcnaat> Deathserver: if you figure something out, let me know. I get a circle arrow, click it and then a black screen.
[06:51] <Arky44> Xcell: XD
[06:52] <karllenz_> ok i mounted my hdd to /media but where is /media?
[06:52] <one_tao> is it april 24 in so africa ?
[06:52] <Deathserver> how do u purge or uninstall flash ive tried but you tube still works
[06:52] <Starnestommy> karllenz_: in /
[06:52] <whta> my grub is broken, giving me "error 22" when i try to boot. can i fix this from a linux mint live CD?
[06:52] <karllenz_> so under file system
[06:52] <Starnestommy> yes
[06:53] <sCOTTo> hey - can anyone here help me with adding a second monitor to my ubuntu desktop / notebook ??
[06:53] <XceII> So, folks, enjoy the future of Ubuntu, Donate today so that you (know) your stuff wil r0x0rs. kthx.
[06:53] <karllenz_> Starnestommy: awesome thanks
[06:53] <sCOTTo> btb
[06:53] <sCOTTo> brb
[06:54] <Deathserver> can i jus uninstall firefox to get rid of flash
[06:54] <sCOTTo> back
[06:54] <difeta> hey all. I just enabled the nvidia restricted driver and all my video have a high color saturation. Any ideas?
[06:54] <Deathserver> sry ubuntuforums and google have been exhausted
[06:54] <sCOTTo> disable it :)
[06:54] <dxdt> name andrew_
[06:54] <sCOTTo> brb
[06:55] <XceII> we'll miss you sCOTT
[06:55] <Deathserver> please help
[06:55] <DracoZA> Deathserver, try sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree gnash gnash-common && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:55] <tifine> when i connect to server why i am getting message : End of Stream
[06:55] <Deathserver> ty
[06:56] <XceII> no Deathserver, flash has to be independently uninstalled
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[06:57] <milly1234> difeta, nvidia-settings
[06:57] <Deathserver> any help on the uninstall i cant find the dir
[06:58] <Israphel> how much time?
[06:58] <jeff__> what's the hapyhap andrew_?
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[06:58] <eeguy> time for what?
[06:58] <XceII> Im out folks god bless Ubuntu, the only os known to Rock.
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[06:58] <Israphel> 8.04
[06:58] <one_tao> Israphel maybe 26 hours
[06:58] <eeguy> I bet 24 hours
[06:59] <Israphel> 3 AM UTC
[06:59] <Deathserver> that command you gave uninstalled it and reinstalled  but it still dose not help on the webpage im trying to view
[06:59] <eeguy> if its anything like gutsy
[06:59] <DracoZA> Deathserver, u sure its flash ?
[06:59] <Starnestommy> ./ack
[06:59] <Israphel> Gutsy was released about 1 or 2 AM UTC
[06:59] <Starnestommy> whoops
[06:59] <one_tao> what time is it now utc?
[06:59] <undecim> How can I convert days since jan 1st, 1970 to YYYY-MM-DD format?
[06:59] <Israphel> now is 00:00 UTC
[06:59] <one_tao> 6?
[06:59] <Neatchee> Ok I'm about to ask a really ridiculous favor from someone.  I'm away from my linux box, and need to get access to an encrypted USB thumb drive.  Can someone do me the favor of md5sum'ing a string for me and PMing it back to me? :D
[06:59] <Seveas> @now
[06:59] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: April 24 2008, 05:59:46 - Next meeting: Server Team in 6 days
[06:59] <one_tao> what? it's 11 pdt
[07:00] <Seveas> undecim, strftime
[07:00] <one_tao> ty
[07:00] <Seveas> @now Pacific
[07:00] <ubotu> Current time in Canada/Pacific: April 23 2008, 23:00:31 - Next meeting: Server Team in 6 days
[07:00] <Neatchee> Anybody wanna be a pal and help me out with that?
[07:00] <eeguy> I thought I stayed up late (Central timezone usa) for gutsy, but had to give up and wait until the next day
[07:00] <Seveas> Neatchee, sure
[07:01] <one_tao> would but dont know how
[07:01] <LoLeN> Neatchee sure
[07:01] <Neatchee> thanks seveas
[07:01] <Deathserver> well i inistalled flash from adbe because a site i was trying to view needed it and firefox wouldnt install so i DL the tarbal from adobe and followed the redme i got flash animation but it blacked out links down the side
[07:01] <Neatchee> PMing you now
[07:01] <Israphel> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04 ---> dont work
[07:01]  * sdakak  wonders how ubuntu acts up anytime and still people kill to defend it
[07:02] <Seveas> Israphel, it's not out yet :-)
[07:02] <Deathserver> i just want flash gone to the point sites ask me to install it
[07:02]  * sdakak nods
[07:02] <Israphel> tell me something i don't know
[07:02] <one_tao> sdakak : What?
[07:02]  * sdakak nods so hard his head rolls off
[07:02] <Deathserver> i will be very gr8ful to get this solved
[07:02] <LoLeN> its gonna get crazy when ubuntu will be out
[07:03] <one_tao> sdakak: They all 'act up'
[07:03] <Israphel> like the same time
[07:03] <LoLeN> we should schedule a party or sth :D
[07:03] <sCOTTo> hey ppl - anyone here good with monitors???
[07:03] <Israphel> but i use kubuntu 64bits
[07:03] <sdakak> one_tao: One fine day I wake up and flash decides to not give me sound in firefox videos.
[07:03] <sdakak> one_tao: I atleast know that windows gives 'reactions' to my actions. Ubuntu has a mind of its own.
[07:03] <one_tao> same ms macos whatever
[07:04] <damo22> how long until hardy is released?
[07:04] <Deathserver> btw the sit im trying to display correctly is cedarpoint.com there are suppost to be links down the left side
[07:04] <one_tao> sdakak: What's the 'perfect' os?
[07:04] <prodigel> Hi all. Can I find out if a host is runing linux or windows? I've nmap-ed it to see opened ports, and seeing ssh could be a clue. Still it's not a proof that the host is linux. Do you know a better way ?
[07:05] <LoLeN> one_tao: the OS that's perfect to YOU
[07:05] <one_tao> ty
[07:05] <LoLeN> one_tao: depends on what you need it for
[07:05] <fouad> anyone have trouble with apt-get update ??
[07:05] <milly1234> prodigel, could ask the one running the host.
[07:05] <GT63> The Perfect OS is the one that does the things you need without problems
[07:05] <one_tao> prodigel in ssh do a uname -ar
[07:05] <genii> prodigel: Server Spy Firefox Extension
[07:05] <LoLeN> milly1234: no prob
[07:05] <eeguy> prodigel: did you try the "nmap -O" option
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[07:06] <sCOTTo> anyone?
[07:06] <prodigel> eeguy: this happends when you don't read the manual :D
[07:06] <one_tao> sCOTTo: ?
[07:06] <Deathserver> any more suggestions on how to remove flash player for good
[07:06] <genii> prodigel: You can also do the old-school telnet to port 80 and read the server headers
[07:06] <eeguy> just checking
[07:06] <sCOTTo> one_tao: need help adding a monitor to my system... I have a new LG L225WT 22 inch wide screen....
[07:07] <DracoZA> Deathserver, it's not your machine
[07:07] <milly1234> same monitor I have sCOTTo, least I thin it is, I have a lg 22 inch
[07:07] <IcemanV9> why do we have TWO different commands, adduser and useradd, to add a new user??? ::confused::
[07:07] <sCOTTo> yup
[07:07] <DracoZA> Deathserver, I dont get a nav either
[07:07] <ADa434rasagdga4> adduser is a wussification of useradd
[07:07] <ADa434rasagdga4> for the faint of hard too scared to learn obscure flags
[07:07] <sCOTTo> milly1234: yeah i need to get s driver so it will work - i want to stretch across two...
[07:07] <Deathserver> how can i see if flash is installed correctly
[07:08] <Amaranth> Deathserver: youtube
[07:08] <mysticbiscuit> you all might find this to be interesting if you have time -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BIZ0Flr70A
[07:08] <mokka_mohan_> query !!!
[07:08] <milly1234> sCOTTo, when I added mine I just did it with the screen resolution and settings tool
[07:08] <c_varun> hardy to be released today right?
[07:08] <Amaranth> !offtopic | mysticbiscuit
[07:08] <mokka_mohan_> What is the best first book in Algorithms and Data STructures
[07:08] <ubotu> mysticbiscuit: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:08] <DracoZA> Deathserver, the site works in IE and not in Firefox it seems
[07:08] <one_tao> milly1234: could you send scotto our xorg.conf ?
[07:08] <IcemanV9> ADa434rasagdga4: nice way to explain. :-)
[07:08] <Deathserver> i belive where ive tried to install several times a may have conflict going on
[07:08] <one_tao> er your xorg.conf
[07:08] <sCOTTo> milly1234: can you tell me ur settings?
[07:08] <prodigel> genii: telnet 80 tells me windows, but nmap tells me linux. who should I trust?
[07:08] <Deathserver> IE how you run that
[07:09] <genii> prodigel: telnet
[07:09] <milly1234> sCOTTo, I'm not stretching across more then one screen though, but sure if you still want it
[07:09] <DracoZA> Deathserver, internet explorer i.e. Microsoft
[07:09] <Amaranth> prodigel: nmap, you can make your http server lie
[07:09] <Deathserver> i just moved to linuk if not obvious
[07:09] <genii> Amaranth: Hehe
[07:09] <prodigel> Amaranth: thought so also
[07:09] <Israphel> any problem with the flash plugin on hardy 64 bits?
[07:09] <Deathserver> i just moved to linuk if not obvious=no
[07:10] <one_tao> prodigel: what do you see when you ssh and do uname -ar
[07:10] <isplicer> Guys, whens Hardy coming?
[07:10] <sdakak> sound in flash video not working, hair lying on the ground.
[07:10] <Deathserver> can i run IE on ubuntu
[07:10] <prodigel> one_tao: I cannot ssh, it's not my computer, just some web server I was curios about
[07:10] <GT63> omg why would you want to?
[07:10] <DracoZA> Deathserver, o kbut understand the problem is not your computer, from what it looks like the website has not been (well) designed to work with different browsers
[07:10] <JosephEddy> 	deathserver | NO!
[07:10] <prodigel> one_tao: at least I have no purpose in hacking it.
[07:10] <Deathserver> lol
[07:10] <Deathserver> retarded ?
[07:11] <Gang> OMG, still "coming soon"
[07:11] <evilbug> does it make a difference if the ubuntu [7.10] .iso is burnt on a cd or dvd?
[07:11] <satu> satu
[07:11] <satu> satu
[07:11] <DracoZA> evilbug, no it doesnt
[07:11] <sdakak> sdakak:
[07:12] <Deathserver> thak you dracoZA
[07:12] <Deathserver> not just me then
[07:12] <Deathserver> so what are some cool thing i can do with ubuntu
[07:12] <ariqs> deathserver: you could always use ubuntu in a freezer. that would eb cool
[07:12] <DracoZA> Deathserver, hehe thats like asking what cool things can I do with my computer...
[07:13] <evilbug> my buddy is having problem running the install disc...
[07:13] <kuru> umask 022 does what exactly?
[07:13] <genii> evilbug: Perhaps he should boot to it instead
[07:13] <kuru> does it produce 644 or 600 or what?
[07:13] <kuru> perms are confusing!
[07:13] <milly1234> sCOTTo, I am going to past my xorg.conf onto a sitre, and I will send you a link, this nick is unregistered so it won't let me private message it to you or dcc you it
[07:13] <DracoZA> evilbug, does the livecd run ok ?
[07:13] <one_tao> Deathserver: you could communicate with people all over the world!
[07:13] <Deathserver> well i just moved and have had several problems  but got most worked out the dell inspiron 1525 wifi drivers being the worst
[07:14] <evilbug> genii- he started runnign it in safe graphics mode and it looks better.the image started tweaking out after the ubuntu live cd load screen.
[07:14] <sCOTTo> milly1234: ??
[07:14] <Deathserver> and have started wondering if moving was worth it
[07:14] <Bryan_> I was trying to get my laptop to suspend, so I set up the network daemon to be stopped before suspend(thought that might be at fault),and i don't need it to do that anymore. Now it is causing me issues,but I forgot what file I edit to remove that issue. Anyone got an idea?
[07:14] <DracoZA> Deathserver, it's worth it
[07:14] <evilbug> and the disc started directly in start/install instead of displaying the main menu.
[07:14] <milly1234> sCOTTo, http://pastebin.com/d74e45d11
[07:15] <Deathserver> it seems cool
[07:15] <milly1234> my xorg.conf
[07:15] <milly1234> I have the same monitor you have
[07:15] <Israphel> there is a deb for the sound problem on flash videos
[07:15] <Deathserver> how can i install the software on the backtrack distro
[07:15] <sdakak> WHAT
[07:15] <genii> evilbug: Did he check the other possible video outs he may have? Occasionally it will switch to another display if it exists (especially common with bios set to onboard then it swaps to add-on video card)
[07:15] <sCOTTo> thanks
[07:15] <genii> Israphel: No
[07:16] <evilbug> genii- actually it works now in safe mode...he's running an nvidia 6600
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[07:16] <joanki> do modern day compilers still use lint?
[07:16] <genii> evilbug: Good :) First hurdle
[07:17] <joanki> oops
[07:17] <karbo> is the final release available on any mirrors yet?
[07:17] <legolas123> Hi
[07:17] <karbo> almost christmas eve xD
[07:17] <legolas123> How much time do we have until we can download Ubuntu 8.04 DVD edition?
[07:17] <timfrost>  kuru: 644 for files or 755 for directories/executables - 'umask 022' turns off the write bit for group and other
[07:17] <KyleK> hahaha
[07:17] <kuru> timfrost, where do I but umask 022 ?
[07:17] <JosephEddy> legolas123 | no one knows
[07:17] <sCOTTo> milly1234: what do i do with that? :)
[07:17] <kuru> timfrost, it's already set to that in my /etc/profile (Ubuntu)
[07:18] <b0xxy> anyone got experiacne with crontab?
[07:18] <magnetron> !isitout > legolas123
[07:18] <KyleK> karbo: hammer the mirrors until they ban you or just wait
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[07:18] <Israphel> http://mirror.ne.gov/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_2.2ubuntu4_amd64.deb
[07:18] <sCOTTo> one_tao: where do i find the xorg.conf?
[07:18] <milly1234> compare it to yours, in the parts that talk about the part called: Section "Monitor"
[07:18] <elmargol> Someone knows an extension or an utility to sync my firefox bookmarks from my laptop to my desktop?
[07:18] <karbo> Kylek: Can't risk that!
[07:18] <legolas123> Does Ubuntu 8.04 fixed the VPN connection problem?
[07:18] <elmargol> or a del.icio.us extension for ff3?
[07:19] <genii> Deathserver: Since it's a SLAX based dist and Ubuntu is a Debian derivitave, they use dissimilar types of packages for applications. Conceivable you could use Alien to convert them but I would not recommend
[07:19] <magnetron> !hardy | legolas123
[07:19] <ubotu> legolas123: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[07:19] <KyleK> isn't ff3 still beta?
[07:19] <elmargol> KyleK, its the default browser in hardy
[07:19] <KyleK> ah
[07:19] <GT63> elmargol: If you have a google mail account there is a firefox plugin called google sync
[07:19] <genii> KyleK: Yes it is still beta
[07:19] <milly1234> sCOTTo, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:19] <emj> but very stable
[07:20] <Deathserver> apt-get kismet worked but why wont it run
[07:20] <elmargol> GT63, do you have the name of the plugin?
[07:20] <KyleK> Deathserver: yea we can totally see the error it gave you
[07:20] <sCOTTo> milly1234:  HOW do i find out the specs on my monitor? yours is a 226 mine is a 225WT
[07:20] <KyleK> brb rebooting
[07:20] <Deathserver> how
[07:20] <legolas123> !hardy | legolas123
[07:21] <milly1234> sCOTTo, you running an nvidia card?
[07:21] <sCOTTo> errr not sure :(
[07:21] <GT63> elmargol: Google Sync http://www.google.com/tools/firefox/browsersync/
[07:21] <eeguy> Here is a question for anyone. I read that ubuntu only update packages for bugfixes during the life of a release while I think fedora updates for new versions (features).  So if a bug is fixed and a new feature to a package is added, does the feature go into ubuntu with the upgrade?
[07:21] <genii> Deathserver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412145
[07:22] <sCOTTo> milly1234: it comes up as an ATI RADEON
[07:22] <inkynoob> eeguy: features / new versions go to backports, bugfixes go to security
[07:22] <legolas123> that "! hardy" was fun, which other commands are available in Ubuntu channel?
[07:22] <Deathserver> ty
[07:22] <mackyman> !hardy
[07:22] <Deathserver> genii
[07:22] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[07:22] <inkynoob> !hardy
[07:22] <milly1234> sCOTTo, the monitor probably came with a spec listing of some sort, on a paper or in a small book, look for the refresh rate and the resolution and use those in your xorg
[07:22] <Israphel> !hardy
[07:22] <genii> Deathserver: np...post #8 or so down is most useful there
[07:22] <eeguy> inkynoob: thanks
[07:22] <sCOTTo> milly1234: ok
[07:23] <sCOTTo> milly1234: ill be back soon - need to get something done - work wise
[07:23] <milly1234> sCOTTo, thats all I really know, I am not a expert on it, I just thought I had the same monitor when you first said it because if sounded almost the same
[07:23] <JosephEddy> legolas123 | /help
[07:23] <Geoffrey2> every time I try to use aticonfig, I'm getting an error telling me the write failed, bad file descriptor.
[07:24] <sCOTTo> ok
[07:24] <milly1234> Geoffrey2, you running it with sudo?
[07:25] <milly1234> like this: sudo aticonfig
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[07:25] <[[thufir]]> I can't seem to find "gstreamer extra plugins" in synaptic
[07:27] <[[thufir]]> it's odd in that the video plays fine through firefox, but when I saved the file from /tmp , Totem seems to require this "ugly" plugin which fails to install.
[07:27] <ShadowAp3x> So I just got totally owned
[07:28] <ShadowAp3x> anyone know any way to force a fsck?
[07:28] <ShadowAp3x> or something along those lines...
[07:28] <slowlear1er> hi anybody can tell me a good sw to inteface with my gsm modem which supports voice?
[07:28] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: run fsck from the live cd
[07:28] <karllenz_> how do u grant your self root permission for an external drive?
[07:29] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: su?
[07:29] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: I did, my problem is this: I run fdisk -l and I can see all of my partitions but when I run fsck it says device not found
[07:29] <karllenz_> slowlear1er: sudo?
[07:30] <karllenz_> slowlear1er: i know sudo but when i click on the drive it tells me i do not have write permissimision
[07:30] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: I don't understand how it can show up in gparted and fdisk but I can't fsck it or mount it
[07:31] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: that's because it is not in the live cd's /etc/fstab file
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[07:31] <sCOTTo> one_tao: is horizontal SYNC teh same as horizontal frequency ?
[07:32] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: are you calling it   /dev/sda1   or similar?
[07:32] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: that shouldn't matter. The fstab file just mounts filesystems on startup. I should still be able to mount the volume manually using the mount command
[07:32] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: yes
[07:32] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: /dev/sda6 to be specific
[07:32] <DracoZA> sCOTTo, I dont think so, sync is usually between two values
[07:32] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: you know the partition has to be unmounted
[07:32] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: you must have mounted it as read only
[07:33] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: it's not mounted to anything right now
[07:33] <sCOTTo> ok
[07:33] <chazco> Does anyone know if todays release has been updated from the RC? (I downloaded that before the server load jumps)
[07:33] <karllenz_> slowlear1er: its an external usb hdd it auto mounted on start up
[07:33] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: literally when I try to mount it says "special device /dev/sda6 does not exist"
[07:34] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: but it does exist. I verified that it is there in fdisk and gparted
[07:34] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: just gksudo
[07:34] <mwe> chazco, I don't think it's been updated since yesterday
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[07:34] <chazco> mwe - Ah, so hopefully i have effectively the release version
[07:34] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: do a   ls /dev | grep sd   and see the result
[07:35] <mwe> chazco, if it says no updates are available
[07:35] <Bryan> where is suspend.conf located in ubuntu?
[07:35] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: sda is there
[07:35] <karllenz_> slowlear1er: still doesnt work
[07:35] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: gksudo nautilus
[07:36] <tarzeau> jc_denton!
[07:36] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: but is sda6?
[07:36] <jc_denton> hi
[07:36] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: No, none of the partitions (ex. sda1, sda2) are there
[07:37] <slowlear1er> hi anybody can tell me a good sw to inteface with my gsm modem which supports voice?
[07:37] <ShadowAp3x> ere4si: but like I said, they all show up in fdisk
[07:37] <linxuz3r> when is ubuntu going to be released?
[07:37] <karllenz_> slowlear1er: that worked
[07:37] <DracoZA> Bryan, try etc/api or etc/apm
[07:37] <linxuz3r> when is hardy heron going to be released
[07:37] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: nice :)
[07:37] <chazco> linxuz3r - Check out the channel topic :)
[07:37] <kmanro3> does anyone know if flash for x64 will be fixed with Hardy's full release? :)
[07:37] <karllenz_> slowlear1er: now i can i make it that my user always has root acess to this drive
[07:38] <Bryan> DracoZA, not it >_>
[07:38] <IcemanV9> kmanro3: there is no 64bit of flash available :-/
[07:39] <Bryan> I'm looking for the file that looks like this http://www.eskimo.com/~roger/files/localhost2/etc/suspend.conf
[07:39] <karllenz_> slowlear1er:   sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media?
[07:39] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: hmmm i dunno about that, normally you should be able to access pnp drives..
[07:39] <kmanro3> :(
[07:39] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: why the need for fsck - is grub not working?
[07:39] <ShadowAp3x> no, it's weird... I've never seen this kind of problem before
[07:39] <ShadowAp3x> it just freezes at login
[07:40] <ShadowAp3x> doesnt even boot up gdm
[07:40] <DracoZA> Bryan, google refers to etc/suspend.conf
[07:40] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: can you try to reseat it? see if you can access the drive normally
[07:40] <slowlear1er> karllenz_: can you try to reseat it? see if you can access the drive normally
[07:40]  * DracoZA loves Google
[07:40] <slowlear1er> hi anybody can tell me a good sw to inteface with my gsm modem which supports voice?
[07:40] <kmanro3> IcemanV9: flash works fine on vist64... when will ubuntu get nswrap or whatever to work with it? i was hoping Hardy would pull this off
[07:41] <langdonlibido> I'm having trouble with the restricted drivers for my broadcom wireless card. They work if I uninstall/reinstall them, but if I restart like it tells me to my card registers as "unclaimed"
[07:41] <langdonlibido> But the drivers are still "In Use" according to the manager
[07:41] <Arenlor> Hey all getting much Hardy questions in here?
[07:41] <ere4si> ShadowAp3x: first thing I'd try is booting in recovery and  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   - an update might have wrecked your X
[07:42] <Rxndx78> hello all... serious help needed... I just upgraded to Gutsy using 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade', downloaded and rebooted only to not be able to log in...
[07:42] <DracoZA> Rxndx78, how far does the boot get ?
[07:42] <Rxndx78> grub appears and I'm able to log in to windoze, but X will not start and I got an error about John and Timidity during the upgrade
[07:43] <Rxndx78> DracoZA, up to the login, where I get the spinning icon
[07:43] <IcemanV9> kmanro3: no idea ... guess u'll find out soon enough ;-)
[07:44] <kmanro3> IcemanV9: that makes baby jesus cry ;)  thx tho
[07:44] <langdonlibido> I'm having trouble with the restricted drivers for my broadcom wireless card. They work if I uninstall/reinstall them, but if I restart like it tells me to my card registers as "unclaimed" But the drivers are still "In Use" according to the manager
[07:44] <Rxndx78> DracoZA, after that it just hangs, and when I try to restart X, it gives me an error about Alsa error code 32
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[07:44] <zcat[1]> Grumpy; MFC 620CN still not properly supported. Have run into two of these now...
[07:44] <sKoNvolTo> salve
[07:44] <zero> 15 more minutes, hell yes
[07:45] <Rxndx78> DracoZA, is there any way I can disable ALSA from starting at boot?
[07:45] <sCOTTo> one_tao: you still here? I am editing my xorg.conf and have some questions
[07:46] <zcat[1]> I want my hardy NOW!! waaaa!
[07:46] <_v_tiziano> join #linuxtrent
[07:46] <Macrend> lol
[07:46] <_v_tiziano> oops
[07:46] <unop> Rxndx78, the best thing to do is blacklist the module specific to your soundcard - but what are you actually trying to do?
[07:46] <milia_> Rxndx78, can't you boot into a root account ? like failsafe boot ?
[07:46] <Blinchik> hey #ubuntu!
[07:46] <Blinchik> any news on when 804 arrives?
[07:46] <Macrend> hahaha
[07:46] <Macrend> read topic?
[07:47] <Rxndx78> milia_, no, I can't even get the login screen up
[07:47] <KyleK> !isitout > Blinchik
[07:47] <milia_> Blinchik, too much traffic, its gonna take some time :P
[07:47] <zcat[1]> Blinchik: before WIndows 7 does...
[07:47] <langdonlibido> I'm having trouble with the restricted drivers for my broadcom wireless card. They work if I uninstall/reinstall them, but if I restart like it tells me to my card registers as "unclaimed" But the drivers are still "In Use" according to the manager.
[07:47] <sCOTTo> :(
[07:47] <kmanro3> Blinchik: they announced it will be bunbled with Vista from today on.
[07:47] <KyleK> langdonlibido: oh hey didn't think of the gui
[07:47] <Rxndx78> unop, I'm trying to just boot back into the new upgrade...
[07:47] <KyleK> thanks for the idea
[07:47] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: pls try using ndiswrapper
[07:47] <Rxndx78> unop, I've had Gutsy since release with no issues
[07:47] <zcat[1]> In 6 more hours it will be the 25th here .... they better hurry it along a bit!
[07:47] <remitaylor> #ubuntu is for support - please checkout the [rockin good time to be had at] #ubuntu-release-party for release info and ... party and ... all that good stuff :)
[07:47] <unop> Rxndx78, ok, but i don't see how alsa fits into this picture
[07:48] <KyleK> lool my broadcom doesn't even show up in that hardware screen
[07:48] <IcemanV9> patience is a virtue, zcat[1]
[07:48] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: there is a gtk gui in add/remove to make things easier if you are uncomfortable with shell.
[07:48] <langdonlibido> I tried that, when ndis is installing and I have to put the ubuntu cd in there's in error
[07:48] <milia_> zcat[1], imagine if you'd like to work under pressure
[07:48] <andycaass> I installed conky, but i cant find the config file under /home/myuser/.conkyrc nor /home/.conkyrc
[07:48] <Blinchik> zMGG wtf! ubotu is bot!
[07:48] <langdonlibido> I'm a total n00b. What's shell? I imagine I am uncomfortable with it
[07:48] <Rxndx78> unop, exactly... when I ctrl alt backspace, I get an error message about alsa with error code 32... when I did the upgrade, it said there were errors with Timidity and John...
[07:48] <milia_> i'd just let them be. it's gonna be ready when it's gonna be ready.
[07:48] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: what error does it show>
[07:49] <Blinchik> !isitout > KyleK
[07:49] <Blinchik> :-D
[07:49] <langdonlibido> Couldn't find a file, tells me to try sudo apt-get or -- fix-missing
[07:49] <unop> Rxndx78, so you upgraded from gutsy to hardy? or is this hardy install a fresh one?
[07:49] <Rxndx78> unop, upgrade
[07:49] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: thats y search for ndiswrapper in add/remove. it will show a gui package. install it with the ubuntu cd inside
[07:50] <shiva_> hi everybody
[07:50] <b0xxy> hello friend
[07:50] <shiva_> i wanted to ask u, what is better? a fresh install ? or an upgrade from gutsy to hardy ?
[07:50] <langdonlibido> That's what I did do, I'll try again and post the exact error I get. brb
[07:50] <KyleK> tempted to autonotice people the !isitout
[07:50] <raj1> anyone got fspot working on hardy 64 bit?
[07:50] <b0xxy> SUBWAY EAT freshhh
[07:50] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: the gui is easy to master.
[07:50] <KyleK> like, welcome to #ubuntu its not out yet
[07:50] <andycaass> I installed conky, but i cant find the config file under /home/myuser/.conkyrc nor /home/.conkyrc
[07:50] <Rxndx78> unop, when I was performing the upgrade, I got errors about Timidity, which has something to do with Alsa
[07:50] <b0xxy> i ust 7.10
[07:50] <b0xxy> now i gota get 8
[07:50] <b0xxy> :<
[07:50] <unop> Rxndx78, you could try this to see if it fixes it.   sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base linux-sound-base alsa-utils
[07:51] <tockitj> when is ubuntu 8.4 coming out???
[07:51] <SaadSaeed> lol @ KyleK
[07:51] <raj1> fspot anyone
[07:51] <unop> !8.04
[07:51] <KyleK> im not using mirc tho
[07:51] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[07:51] <b0xxy> tockitj its out right now quit download google.com
[07:51] <b0xxy> :P
[07:51] <b0xxy> #ubuntu-release-party
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[07:51] <xomb13z> test
[07:51] <tockitj> woohooo
[07:51] <aItsNotOut> this is near the top right?
[07:51] <Rxndx78> unop, I can't even get to the login screen to choose failsafe term or nome
[07:51] <langdonlibido> Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).
[07:51] <langdonlibido> Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?
[07:52] <Rxndx78> unop, *gnome
[07:52] <aItsNotOut> (doesn't have a userlist)
[07:52] <xomb13z> Why is my wireless always at 50% even if I am right next to the router?
[07:52] <tockitj> but -- ubuntu.com says it is still 'coming soon' ??
[07:52] <aItsNotOut> yea
[07:52] <aItsNotOut> tockitj: soon as in not right now :p
[07:52] <langdonlibido> What's the problem? I'm connected with a wire right now.
[07:52] <unop> Rxndx78, can you drop down into a virtual terminal.   CTRL+ALT+F1
[07:52] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: continue.
[07:52] <b0xxy> xomb13z - interferance?
[07:52] <karllenz_> anyone know how to change permissions for a drive
[07:52] <karllenz_> to read write access
[07:52] <langdonlibido> W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release amd64 (20071016)]/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[07:52] <langdonlibido>   Hash Sum mismatch
[07:52] <xomb13z> b0xxy: only in linux?
[07:53] <shiva_> chmod :)
[07:53] <unop> karllenz_, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/mountpoint
[07:53] <karllenz_> unop: it says my user name is invalid
[07:53] <MidgetARG> hey all I have a RAID array formatted in UFS and I'm using a FreeBSD install. If I install Ubuntu will it support mounting the RAID UFL partition?
[07:53] <MidgetARG> *UFS
[07:53] <unop> karllenz_, try copying that command as-is
[07:53] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: pls call my nickname while replying to me as i wont notice, otherwise.
[07:53] <unop> karllenz_, changing only the mountpoint location
[07:53] <aItsNotOut> whats UFS?
[07:54] <karllenz_> unop: ok
[07:54] <langdonlibido> sriramoman: alright
[07:54] <Rxndx78> unop, there is nowhere to do so... I choose Ubuntu from Grub, it loads and then I get the spinning clock thing right before the login screen... but the login screen never loads. when I ctrl alt backspace enough, I get the error message about alsa
[07:54] <unop> Rxndx78, what does pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 do?
[07:54] <langdonlibido> sriramoman: W: Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release amd64 (20071016)]/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9_1.43-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb
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[07:55] <Rxndx78> unop, while the clock is spinning?
[07:55] <unop> Rxndx78, sure
[07:55] <xomb13z> Does anyone else get less wireless range in linux?
[07:55] <unop> langdonlibido, are you connected to the internet now?
[07:55] <Rxndx78> unop, I'll check... be back in a few, gotta reboot... thank you for your help
[07:55] <geoaxis> arghhh ...no 8.4
[07:55] <unop> Rxndx78, ok, but do try that command if you can
[07:55] <langdonlibido> unop: yes, with a wire
[07:55] <Rxndx78> unop, that's why I'm rebooting
[07:56] <Rxndx78> unop, thanx
[07:56] <insmod> <Rxndx78> does startx -- :1 work
[07:56] <geoaxis> its practically ubuntu 8.5
[07:56] <unop> langdonlibido, is there a specific reason you need to use the CD now? because you probably will get a newer version from the online repos.
[07:56] <tarkus> are all mcdonalds 24/7 ??
[07:56] <fserve> someone know how to do not loose dns-cache when restart my linux?
[07:56] <langdonlibido> unop: You mean make a new CD?
[07:57] <spikemcc> hey where is the link for hardy ?
[07:57] <geoaxis> tarkus: no, not evern in US
[07:57] <milia_> spikemcc, google
[07:57] <ShadowAp3x> unop: :(
[07:57]  * geoaxis remberes college days in Nebraska
[07:57] <fserve> someone know how to do to not loose dns-cache when restart?
[07:57] <ShadowAp3x> unop: no suggestions for mein ##linux chat?
[07:57] <sCOTTo> hey can someone tell me why the PASTEBIN that I was given is SO different to the xorg.conf that I have??
[07:57] <geoaxis> remembers*
[07:57] <unop> langdonlibido, no, you're obviously trying to install a package there and apt is looking to get it from the CD.. what i meant to ask is, do you really need to use the CD for this because it's probably better to do it online
[07:57] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: if you dont have any serious work in the comp, i would advice u to get hardy and proceed. because native drivers may be released and they would alsways be safer and better.
[07:58] <tarkus> cause im craving a double bigmac right now, soo badly. needs to be worth the walk
[07:58] <IcemanV9> tarkus: not all of them are 24/7, but i have seen a quite few though.
[07:58] <tarkus> would suck if its closed
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[07:58] <tarkus> lol
[07:58] <unop> ShadowAp3x, hmm, not really - all i can think of is probably to try another live CD - your fedora live CD perhaps, their version of udev might pick up the devices alright
[07:58] <langdonlibido> sriramoman: Nope, that's a good idea =P
[07:59] <ShadowAp3x> unop: :( ok...
[07:59] <JPSman> how do i create a common folder between two computers using ethernet?
[07:59] <sriramoman> langdonlibido: provided u have a fast connection or you know u wont have anything serious till u obtain hardy.
[07:59] <langdonlibido> unop: Umm, I'm not sure, it didn't make it obvious that I could get it online.
[08:00] <karllenz_> it still says im not the owner
[08:00] <sriramoman> sriramoman: how did ndiscrap install?
[08:00] <langdonlibido> sriramoman: I got a good connection, I'll finish up tonight and d/l while I sleep, thnx for the help
[08:00] <sriramoman> ok. you're always welcome.
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[08:01] <unop> langdonlibido, there's a few things to do before that. disable the cd-rom repo  - look for "software properties" in the gnome admin menu and then update apt/synaptic and then try installing this package again
[08:01] <karllenz_> unop: it still says im not the owner
[08:03] <unop> karllenz_, ls -l /path/to/mountpoint # and btw, did that command give you any output when you run it?
[08:03] <kaltsinho> do you know anything about ubuntu release time?
[08:04] <magnetron> !isitout | kaltsinho
[08:04] <ubotu> kaltsinho: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[08:04] <fserve> kaltsinho: check topic
[08:04] <phishie> let ubotu do the job lol
[08:05] <fserve> : D
[08:05] <fserve> someone know what to do to not loose dns-cache when restart?
[08:07] <evilbug> my buddy installed ubuntu 7.10 and installed all the updates along with enabling the restricted drivers,but his resolution won't go up past 800x600.he's running an nvidia 6600.
[08:07] <cokolina> ikonia ahhhhhhhh i foundd u! :P
[08:07] <cokolina> ikonia u popular :P http://ircarchive.info/ubuntu/2007/5/19/114.html
[08:07] <cokolina> lol
[08:07] <insmod> <fserve>i CAN THINK OF A HACK WAY TO DO IT
[08:07] <insmod>  sorry for the caps
[08:08] <cokolina> would someone check this out http://pastebin.com/m749018a1 bshell not set to bash warning..
[08:08] <fserve> insmod: like 'do not restart...' ?
[08:09] <fserve> evilbug: what monitor?
[08:09] <evilbug> crt
[08:09] <citybird> im waiting for the new release :-(
[08:09] <fserve> 15' ?
[08:09] <citybird> i thought south africa would be awake already
[08:09] <GT63> aren't we all :-)
[08:09] <evilbug> 17' and it works with a 1280x1204 in windows.
[08:10] <fserve> evilbug try press control alt +
[08:10] <sCOTTo> hey guys - this xorg.conf is confusing me!!! I have a notebook & a second monitor LG 22 inch wide screen.... I need to extend the screen.... cansomeone give me an easy way to do it pls? I am really pressed for time right now!
[08:10] <insmod> <fserve> no -- make an rc that copies it to a tmp dir on shutdown and a rc that copies it back on boot
[08:10] <JoeAlly> yeah its daylight there
[08:10] <fserve> insmod: nice
[08:10] <fserve> insmod: but where is the cache being saved?
[08:10] <evilbug> ctrl+alt+"+"
[08:10] <JoeAlly> what do u mean extend the screen
[08:11] <phishie> i think he meant use 2 monitors as 1
[08:11] <JoeAlly> oh
[08:11] <cokolina1> dc
[08:11] <sCOTTo> JoeAlly: my monitor doesnt seem to be supported - or isnt in the lsit.... I want to use two as one yeah....
[08:11] <cokolina1> anyone on that shell bash http://pastebin.com/m749018a1
[08:11] <evilbug> fserve- that did nothing.
[08:11] <fserve> evilbug: :(
[08:12] <sCOTTo> JoeAlly: someone gave me a pastebin of their xorg.conf but its too confusing compared to mine :(
[08:12] <phishie> lol
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[08:12] <sCOTTo> i have a 'screens &graphics' gui in my ubuntu edition....
[08:12] <evilbug> fserve- any other clues?
[08:12] <sCOTTo> phishie: give a new guy a bit of room :)
[08:13] <phishie> I'm sorry
[08:13] <phishie> it wasnt meant to mean that
[08:13] <sCOTTo> thats cool
[08:13]  * phishie slaps himself
[08:13]  * sCOTTo is easy :)
[08:13] <insmod> <fserve> why do you lose the cache
[08:13] <sCOTTo> i just need a driver file for a LG FLATRON L225WT 22 inch widescreen :(
[08:14] <JoeAlly> um
[08:14] <JoeAlly> ive never needed drivers for a monitor before
[08:14] <cokolina1> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[08:14] <cokolina1> what is that!?
[08:14] <cokolina1> WARNING: $SHELL not set to bash.
[08:15] <sCOTTo> JoeAlly: with the screens and graphics pressferences i am in it isnt showing my monitor...
[08:15] <myIRC> switch  #myIRC
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[08:17] <JoeAlly> anyone know ho to install latest ati drivers
[08:17] <JoeAlly> anyone know how to install dirvers 8.4
[08:17] <sCOTTo> i prolly have the wrong video drivers too...
[08:17] <sCOTTo> bugger... i think I might just call it a day...
[08:17] <magnetron> latest | JoeAlly
[08:17] <sCOTTo> thanks for ur help guys :)
[08:17] <magnetron> !latest | JoeAlly
[08:17] <ubotu> JoeAlly: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[08:18] <JoeAlly> yes well this time it does mate
[08:18] <JoeAlly> it supports algix
[08:18]  * sCOTTo thanks the room
[08:18]  * sCOTTo leaves the room
[08:18] <JoeAlly> wich is superior to XGL
[08:19] <JoeAlly> it was released in october and it still hasnt been added to the repo
[08:19] <icesword> hardy is out... yikes
[08:19] <icesword> http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Heron%20LTS
[08:19] <JoeAlly> yeh i know i have it
[08:19] <JoeAlly> lol
[08:19] <JoeAlly> any way how are u ice sword
[08:19] <JCSmith1337> Hey all, how's the release coming?
[08:19] <icesword> JoeAlly, fine, thx
[08:19] <ere4si> cokolina: are you trying to compile something?
[08:20] <crdlb> JoeAlly: hardy has a version of fglrx new enough for AIGLX
[08:21] <JCSmith1337> Will hardy support Quad Core?
[08:21] <JoeAlly> i tried it
[08:21] <JoeAlly> it says no composite
[08:21] <crdlb> JoeAlly: so enable it
[08:21] <zero> Damn, no Ubuntu stable yet?
[08:21] <crdlb> JoeAlly: composite was disabled when you used the restricted drivers manager on gutsy
[08:21] <JoeAlly> i have ,on restricted dirvers
[08:21] <JoeAlly> oh
[08:21] <JoeAlly> fair enough
[08:22] <crdlb> if you upgrade to hardy, you'll have to remove that from your xorg.conf
[08:22] <TuxOne> Do I have to install all the software I have installed on ubuntu(Gutsy) if I update my system to Hardy??
[08:22] <stoked> does the hardy installer allow for lvm install?
[08:22] <spikemcc> zero ubuntu is stable from alpha 6 to rc
[08:22] <JoeAlly> what would i put
[08:22] <TuxOne> All the software means third part software in my case
[08:22] <spikemcc> for hardy
[08:22] <JoeAlly> composite 1
[08:23] <JoeAlly> or composite true
[08:23] <Traveler61> &exit
[08:23] <TuxOne> hello??
[08:23] <crdlb> JoeAlly: either one works, in fact you can just remove those three lines entirely
[08:24] <JoeAlly> ok
[08:24] <JoeAlly> thanks alot crdlb
[08:25] <JoeAlly> i'm just restarting i'll be back later cya
[08:28] <Arky44> When Hardy for ubuntu is released, will 8.04 be out for all the 'buntu flavors?
[08:29] <spikemcc> 6 hours more maybe ... all flavors a week max maybe ...
[08:29] <icesword> Arky44, no, it is out, http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Heron%20LTS
[08:29] <nabcore> how do I stop ubuntu from pausing when I type a command in error that it does not understand?
[08:30] <[LMM]Iowahc> Hy there, is somebody using compiz with the Mac4Lin Theme?
[08:30] <JoeAlly> I'm back again thanks
[08:30] <JoeAlly> na
[08:30] <[LMM]Iowahc> Hy there, is somebody using compiz with the Mac4Lin Theme?
[08:31] <icesword> nabcore, ctrl +c
[08:31] <spq> I'm trying to get sound working on a Medion MD96420 (lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 03)) the driver seems to be snd-hda-intel but when loading it i dont get any lines in /proc/asound/cards and dmesg says: http://rafb.net/p/ALVKkL81.html
[08:31] <JoeAlly> no sorry i am not using mac 4lin
[08:32] <wkuess> hello
[08:32] <cypha> hi
[08:32] <ITU> any idea when the new release will be avaible?
[08:32] <aItsNotOut> <--, before you ask
[08:32] <aguy> was ist jetzt mit der 8.08!!!
[08:32] <aguy> ich wollt jetzt saugen :(
[08:32] <wkuess> so when will the 8.04 LTS be rady for download ??
[08:32] <aItsNotOut> ITU: riiight after your head hits the pillow
[08:32] <aguy> 8.04
[08:33] <aItsNotOut> wkuess: riiight before you have to go to school
[08:33] <aItsNotOut> (i'm going to randomly guess timezones)
[08:33] <aguy> jeah, gmt +3?
[08:33] <wkuess> right.. ;)
[08:33] <wkuess> GMT +2
[08:33] <aguy> hah
[08:34] <aguy> what about the new 8.04
[08:34]  * icesword wonders where have the ops been, they may all hide from "when when when" lol
[08:34] <aguy> i need it like heroin
[08:34] <aItsNotOut> icesword: they just do !itsnotout | dude every few minutes
[08:34] <Weasel[DK]-work> read the topic folks
[08:34] <spikemcc> aguy perfection the alpha 6 to the rc ... I'm burning for hardy final !!!
[08:34] <wkuess> want to get my hands on the server dist. need to setup a server by monday ;)
[08:35] <icesword> aItsNotOut, haha
[08:35] <Amaranth> spikemcc: If you installed the RC and are up-to-date you have the final
[08:35] <Amaranth> spikemcc: Unless something really bad happens
[08:35] <aItsNotOut> woooo i hope something horrible happens
[08:35] <spikemcc> i just want the iso
[08:35] <aItsNotOut> and that all 90000 pokemon get updated
[08:35] <buenio> soy bueniño alguna chica por ai
[08:36] <spikemcc> ???
[08:36] <aItsNotOut> actually theres a question, how many computers would you need to be able to have every package installed?
[08:36] <phishie> ?
[08:36] <aItsNotOut> like 5 different ftp daemons
[08:36] <spikemcc> aItsNoOut are you a child or just a fool ?
[08:37] <aItsNotOut> spikemcc: people keep asking the same damn question, I'm mixing things up
[08:37] <DracoZA> Is there any way possible to open a .mdb MS Access file with an application on Ubuntu ?
[08:38] <thenetduck> anyone here like writting reviews for open source software?
[08:38] <aguy> spikemcc, the rc came out today? i am a little disappointed, i thought the webpage huge counter was related to the final stable :(
[08:38] <eviking5> DracoZA, I'm pretty sure OpenOffice.org will do that
[08:38] <aguy> jeah, gotta update 'em all
[08:38] <DracoZA> eviking5, ive tried but I cant seem to find a way
[08:38] <aItsNotOut> import?
[08:39] <ITU> aguy: it is? just wait
[08:39] <JPSman> is gutsy still LTS?
[08:39] <Toznoshio> DracoZA: try Kexi
[08:39] <aguy> ITU, how long? i am just another 2 hours in work, and i have fridays off... :(
[08:39] <DracoZA> thx Toznoshio will check it out
[08:39] <Toznoshio> DracoZA: try Kexi with the mdb add-on to it
[08:40] <cypha> what's cli?
[08:40] <ITU> aguy : that I don't know probaly not the next 2 hours but what do I know
[08:40] <phishie> cypha, command line interface
[08:40] <Shimmy_> cypha: command line interface
[08:40] <cypha> ohh, ok
[08:40] <cypha> cool
[08:40] <fserve> Title	Date	
[08:40] <fserve>  				
[08:40] <fserve> 1. 	Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Series Linux 32-bit / 64-bit Beta Driver (14.88 MB)	16 Apr 08	
[08:40] <cypha> thanks
[08:40] <fserve> http://es.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=671&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Linux&region=3&Product_Name=X-Fi+Xtreme+Gamer&Product_ID=15853&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=12&select=1&x=62&y=19
[08:40] <Deathserver> my wifi drivers are propritary would it be easier to get a usb dongle to use with kismet and wireshark and aircrack suite
[08:40] <ademan_> has anyone setup zope on ubuntu?
[08:41] <aguy> then it will be monday. i desperately need to type the apt-get --dist-upgrade
[08:41] <olof_> can someone help me to lock my logitech mouse to a specific /dev/input/event?
[08:41] <buenio> alguha gallegita
[08:42] <eviking5> DracoZA, look at this link: http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid39_gci1236205,00.html
[08:42] <aguy> i could make cron distupgrading my box couldn't i?
[08:42] <aguy> :)
[08:43] <KLes_> Hi !
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[08:43] <JohnT_> hi
[08:43] <artti> How do i know that i have 64-bit system?
[08:43] <aguy> nothing works properly
[08:43] <JohnT_> lol
[08:43] <ariqs> lol
[08:43] <rsk> :D
[08:43] <Symmetria> anyone here running ocfs2 ?
[08:43] <aguy> :)
[08:44] <buenio> hola
[08:44] <KLessou> I don't want anymore SCIM (im-switch) in my desktop ... how can i deactivate this one ?
[08:44] <DracoZA> thx eviking5
[08:44] <minisu> Where can I find a list of the major advantages/reasons to switch to a certain Ubuntu release?
[08:45] <minisu> Like a changelog but brief
[08:45] <eviking5> DracoZA, hope you will get it working!
[08:45] <Adlai> does anyone know if fglrx supports dual monitor and aiglx at the same time?
[08:45] <ewqe> tat!
[08:45] <JohnT_> anyone know when 8.04 is ment to be out?
[08:45] <Deathserver> if i buy a usb wifi adapter will its drivers interfer with my built in wifi
[08:45] <ewqe> soon...
[08:45] <JPSman> why does ubuntu come in so many 'flavors' and how do they differ?
[08:46] <SeriosSem> hi!
[08:46] <JohnT_> different pieces of software
[08:46] <ueki> i am from thailand  when ubuntu 8.04 lts open to download?
[08:46] <artti> So can someone say how i know that i have 64-bit system?
[08:46] <rsk> JPSman: you know there's information on the web about that..
[08:46] <JohnT_> something will say AMD64
[08:46] <JohnT_> or x64
[08:46] <Orbixx> ueki: #ubunti-release-party
[08:46] <JohnT_> what are you running now artti?
[08:46] <aguy> arrti, man apt-get
[08:46] <JPSman> But I dont know enough to distiguish between the two
[08:47] <aguy> and then some kind of version, i guess
[08:47] <ewqe> lol
[08:47] <Deathserver> ne1
[08:47] <artti> JohnT_, currenlty i have Ubuntu 7.10
[08:47] <Adlai> JPSman: http://ubuntuindex.com/website/ubuntu-flavors/
[08:47] <JohnT_> the x86 version
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[08:48] <Deathserver> if i buy a usb wifi adapter will its drivers interfer with my built in wifi
[08:48] <artti> JohnT_, On computer there is said AMD Athlon 64.
[08:48] <lya> ho there ;)
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[08:48] <JohnT_> that will do then
[08:48]  * Weasel[DK] is back
[08:48] <artti> That means flash crashes my browser.
[08:48]  * Weasel[DK] is back
[08:49] <JohnT_> should support x64 then
[08:49] <Wayne^R2> anybody know if there is a gui for logrotate?
[08:49] <olof_> anyone know how to lock my mouse to a specific /dev/input/event* so i don't need to change it in the xorg.conf at every boot?
[08:50] <JohnT_> ZOMG, i vant 8.04 already
[08:50] <rsk> congratulations you just added 2 hours to the release-date JohnT_
[08:50] <spikemcc> imem too
[08:50] <JohnT_> lol
[08:51] <spikemcc> shut up and program it rsk !!!
[08:51] <asrai> the rc is running very well here :)
[08:51] <JohnT_> what is the eta?
[08:51] <tarkus> anyone know why i get a bunch of locale warnings for each command i run? locale and perl warnings.
[08:51] <tarkus> its a fresh ubuntu server install
[08:51] <spikemcc> i bring you to the strippers girls bar after so be fast
[08:52] <spikemcc> rc is perfect
[08:52] <spikemcc> beta and alpha 6 also
[08:52] <asrai> sure is
[08:52] <asrai> for me at least anyhow.
[08:52] <tarkus> anyone here using 8.04 yet?
[08:52] <Deathserver> can you apt-get games
[08:52] <JoeAlly> YEP
[08:52] <JoeAlly> i got 8.04
[08:53] <aItsNotOut> tarkus: yea lots of people are using the "rc"
[08:53] <JoeAlly> yeh i'm using rc
[08:53] <lya> so... and for when is the final 8.04 planned? Any precise time?
[08:53] <tarkus> ah, nice
[08:53] <JoeAlly> i upgraded from gutsy without the dic
[08:53] <aItsNotOut> !itsnotout > lya
[08:53] <aItsNotOut> ;)
[08:53] <JoeAlly> cuz the disc didnt work
[08:53] <JohnT_> 24/24/2008 at 23:59
[08:53] <tarkus> without a dic?
[08:53] <lya> yep thx I seet that :P
[08:53] <gramm> are there any striking differences between the RC and the actual release?  I am wondering if I should simply install with the RC.
[08:53] <spikemcc> dell inspiron 1501 on ubuntu 8.04 alpha 6 to rc seem perfection in live will come ... don't pinch me maybe I dream !!! don't wake me up !!!
[08:53] <lya> my problem is that I don't know if to begin working.....
[08:54] <JohnT_> the 1501 does the sound work>?
[08:54] <spikemcc> yes
[08:54] <gramm> i suppose another way to phrase it would be: have they been working much since the latest RC?
[08:54] <olof_> anyone know how to lock my mouse to a specific /dev/input/event* so i don't need to change it in the xorg.conf at every boot?
[08:54] <KalEl> wait for one day if you can.
[08:54] <JohnT_> cool, ty
[08:54] <aItsNotOut> gramm: yes
[08:54] <gramm> aItsNotOut: nice nick, and thanks!
[08:54] <spikemcc> JohnT_ www.ubuntu1501.com
[08:54] <asrai> gramm: i got a whole lot of updates the day or so after the rc, from memory
[08:54] <JoeAlly> na sorry olof
[08:54] <JohnT_> ty
[08:55] <asrai> but if you update you iwll get those..
[08:55] <gramm> asrai: thanks
[08:55] <aItsNotOut> gramm: try a upgrade, thats what I did, but from new gutsy
[08:55] <tarkus> anyone know why i get a bunch of locale warnings for each command i run? locale and perl warnings.
[08:55] <tarkus> its a fresh ubuntu server install
[08:55] <tarkus> 7.10
[08:55] <aItsNotOut> hmm
[08:55] <asrai> i
[08:55] <nonfatmatt> tarkus, try 'dpkg-reconfigure locale'
[08:55] <gramm> asrai: ive got my home directory on a different partition, so it should be as easy as a reinstall
[08:55] <JohnT_> comeon devs, code faster
[08:55] <asrai> i'm very impressed with hardy
[08:55] <asrai> ah bonus :)
[08:56] <aItsNotOut> haha
[08:56] <gramm> asrai: yeah, a friend of mine was trying it out, it looked (emphasis:) good (/emphasis)
[08:56] <asrai> i was perhaps a little rash - a few weeks ago i did a small backup (was running XP), formatted my desktop and put hardy on it
[08:56] <aItsNotOut> gramm: if you have another computer to download the iso when it comes out, go and try the upgrade and if it doesn't work theres no worries :)
[08:57] <tarkus> nonfatmatt: http://dpaste.com/46659/
[08:57] <asrai> after 2 weeks i put hardy on the laptop too
[08:57] <aItsNotOut> ah
[08:57] <olof_> is there another way than evdev to get all the buttons on a logitech multibutton mouse to work?
[08:57] <aItsNotOut> I've got hardy on the recovery partition hehe
[08:57] <gramm> aItsNotOut: im not worried about upgrading, i was just going to seed the torrent when it comes out, and wondering if i should still be seeding the "beta"
[08:57] <tarkus> so hardy hardon does have a full release yet?
[08:57] <asrai> gramm: everything worked straight out of the box (on the beta) for me *touch wood* hope nothing explodes now :)
[08:57] <aItsNotOut> olof_: whats evdev, also whats wrong with it?
[08:57] <Toznoshio> Q: where are conversations in this channel archived / logged for future reference?
[08:58] <aItsNotOut> gramm: nah, save your bandwidth for the good stuff
[08:58] <nonfatmatt> tarkus, eh sorry I meant 'locales'
[08:58] <nonfatmatt> should be the right packages
[08:58] <nonfatmatt> no guarantees though
[08:58] <tarkus> k
[08:58] <gramm> asrai: yeah, i think its much easier for people to install linux than windows anymore...as it should be
[08:58] <artti> So it si best that i install Ubuntu for 64-bit system?
[08:58] <aItsNotOut> artti: im still trying it out
[08:58] <tarkus> btw nonfatmatt, those warnings i get with ANY command
[08:58] <aguy> WUBIIIIII
[08:58] <tarkus> not just this one
[08:58] <asrai> absolutely - it was very easy and i am pretty clueless :P
[08:59] <gramm> aguy: tis cool, isnt it?
[08:59] <nonfatmatt> yeah, which means something in locales didn't get set right
[08:59] <aguy> i want to wubi the win xp on my dual boot machine
[08:59] <aguy> :D
[08:59] <aItsNotOut> haha like lubw?
[08:59] <tarkus> nonfatmatt: http://dpaste.com/46660/
[08:59] <artti> aItsNotOut, trying out? What are your current experience?
[08:59] <nonfatmatt> also, I ran a gentoo box with that error for like 6 months and it didn't do anything more than annoy me
[08:59] <aguy> aItsNotOut, ???
[08:59] <asrai> fbvm
[09:00] <tarkus> nonfatmatt: yeah.. its really annoying
[09:00] <olof_> aItsNotOut: evdev is the driver i use in xorg.conf for my mouse...the problem is that it requires me to specify a specific event-device (from /dev/input/event) which changes each boot...so i need to change my xorg.conf each time i boot...
[09:00] <asrai> sorry tiny kitten on the keyboard
[09:00] <Danikar> Im trying to upgrade my fiesty to gutsy, how do i do that?
[09:00] <aItsNotOut> olof_: hmm
[09:00] <asrai> she loves the laptop
[09:00] <Radit> Hi..
[09:00] <Radit> Hi, how do i enable flash in opera?
[09:00] <aItsNotOut> olof_: I'll take a peek in my dev
[09:00] <Adlai> my eyes must be going
[09:00] <tarkus> nonfatmatt: its like that with a fresh install for me.. im using slicehost VPS
[09:00] <Adlai> because I just read "Hi, how do i enable flash in space?"
[09:00] <Koheleth> Radit try #opera
[09:00] <nonfatmatt> okay you might have to set your debconf priority lower so 'dpk-reconfigure debconf' set it to low priority and then run the command again with locales
[09:00] <Adlai> I was pretty excited for a minute
[09:00] <aItsNotOut> 13 64-72
[09:01] <nonfatmatt> yeah it's something that's set up by the installer so it probably missed it or something
[09:01] <Radit> koheleth: no one is active..
[09:01] <aItsNotOut> oh
[09:01] <Koheleth> its probably the wrong address, but you get my meaning, this is ubuntu :)
[09:01] <aItsNotOut> olof_: whats it right now?
[09:01] <asrai> there's only one stupid app that makes me dual boot now :(
[09:02] <CVirus> How come you guys don't know when will it be released ! Aren't there any developers around ?
[09:02] <Koheleth> Steam
[09:02] <Radit> Koheleth: okay...
[09:02] <aItsNotOut> CVirus: we're hard, at work
[09:02] <JohnT_> yeah?
[09:02] <aItsNotOut> lol boner joke
[09:02] <CVirus> heh
[09:02] <JohnT_> lol
[09:02] <Koheleth> it is realeased so to speak, I am running Hardy 8.04 now
[09:02] <JohnT_> rc?
[09:03] <Koheleth> yeah, with updates
[09:03] <frandavid100> hiya!
[09:03] <JohnT_> all good
[09:03] <aItsNotOut> olof_: lets say its event0 right now, I was going to do like ls -lR /dev | grep 13 | grep 64 and see if it listed like LogitechWhateverLongDeviceName as well as event0
[09:03] <olof_> aItsNotOut: the mouse changes between /dev/input/event2 and event3 on every boot
[09:03] <frandavid100> does anyone here use imagemagick and know the command to resize a picture?
[09:03] <psnel> HELP: can anyone help me with OpenOffice and Downloader4X app aborts?
[09:03] <Koheleth> I soon as the lts is realeased I will just update to the final, take minutesI guess
[09:03] <dna_> will the server be released at the same time?
[09:03] <aItsNotOut> ls -lR /dev/ | grep 13 | grep 66 <-- or 67
[09:03] <Koheleth> apparently so
[09:04] <nonfatmatt> also, jesus will come back
[09:04] <JohnT_> lol
[09:04] <dna_> lawlz!
[09:04] <aItsNotOut> argh
[09:04] <Arenlor> is there a large amount of disconnects in here too?
[09:04] <mono23> lol everbody is so desperate
[09:04] <Shimmy_> frandavid100: convert -scale something.
[09:04] <Koheleth> for what
[09:04] <mono23> for the final release of 8.04
[09:04] <Robert125> How can I edit settibgs for screensavers with ubuntu 7.10 (gnome)?
[09:04] <JohnT_> 8.04 der, what do you think?
[09:04] <qdisc> oops i installed it to my usb stick :(
[09:04] <aItsNotOut> olof_: look in /dev/input/by-path/
[09:05] <mono23> it's  been going on for hours
[09:05]  * aItsNotOut feels silly
[09:05] <mono23> is it on the server???
[09:05] <mono23> and now???
[09:05] <rxndx78> unop, back again... I logged into failsafe gnome, created a new user and all is well, except that I cannot access my data now from my original /home
[09:05] <mono23> my first time sex was more relaxed :p
[09:05] <aItsNotOut> who needs final?
[09:05] <rxndx78> unop, seems to be something about the gnome settings
[09:05] <JohnT_> me
[09:05] <Arenlor> we in +1 were thinking we just hit a netslpit
[09:05] <aItsNotOut> mono23: well hopefully your first time only involved 2 people and not several thousand
[09:05] <JohnT_> lol
[09:06] <JohnT_> i'll just keep refreshing the ubuntu page : (
[09:06] <unop> rxndx78, what you could do then is delete the .{gnome,gconf,gtk} directories from the old home .. and it should work ok
[09:06] <spikemcc> me + infinite !!!
[09:06] <Deathserver> hello i forgot to intoduce myself nooberubuntu user thx for helping me with my problems
[09:06] <Koheleth> there is a ubuntu release party channel somewhere
[09:06] <JohnT_> where/
[09:06] <JohnT_> ?
[09:06] <aItsNotOut> #ubuntu-release-party
[09:06] <frandavid100> thanks Shimmy_
[09:06] <aItsNotOut> try that
[09:07] <Koheleth> lol
[09:07] <XB23> how do i install the ubuntu gui?
[09:07] <rxndx78> unop, so I can just boot into safe mode, delete those directories and I should be able to log in to my old account again?
[09:07] <olof_> aItsNotOut: the event is listed with ls but not the mouse device name...
[09:07] <Shimmy_> frandavid100: np
[09:07] <XB23> ive got the server version
[09:07] <aItsNotOut> hmm funky
[09:07] <tarkus> can someone help me setup my locales?
[09:07] <rxndx78> XB23 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <aItsNotOut> olof_: anything logitech like in /dev/input/by-path
[09:07] <Shimmy_> XB23: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop i think.
[09:07] <XB23> ty
[09:07] <tarkus> i keep getting errors about locales and perl
[09:07] <aItsNotOut> tarkus: why didn't dpkg-reconfigure locales work?
[09:07] <KOW> ubuntu8.04 is still in beta?
[09:07] <umbrualbert> hi...what drivers do I need for Nvidia 8800 GTX SLI cards
[09:08] <tarkus> aItsNotOut: i posted the output
[09:08] <unop> rxndx78, you can do it right now .. with something like this.   sudo rm -rfv /home/<otheruser>/.{gnome,gnome2,gconf,gtk}
[09:08] <olof_> aItsNotOut: the problem with the files in the by-path folder is that it's symlinks...and evdev does apparantly not support symlinks when specifying device in xorg.conf
[09:08] <tarkus> aItsNotOut: http://dpaste.com/46660/
[09:08] <aItsNotOut> olof_: well thats crap
[09:08] <umbrualbert> I've tried ver169.12
[09:08] <aItsNotOut> olof_: futz something together then?
[09:08] <unop> tarkus, perhaps this does it.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales
[09:08] <olof_> aItsNotOut: agree...
[09:08] <[LMM]Iowahc> Hy there, is somebody using compiz with the Mac4Lin Theme?
[09:09] <aItsNotOut> olof_: actually file a bug report and then futz something together
[09:09] <rxndx78> unop, I need to chown because my files are private
[09:09] <olof_> aItsNotOut: futz?
[09:09] <tarkus> unop: nope, same error
[09:09] <unop> rxndx78, hmm, no, sudo should get around that restriction
[09:09] <aItsNotOut> olof_: its only at boot right? can you shell script? i sure cant :)
[09:09] <rxndx78> unop, ok
[09:09] <rxndx78> will try
[09:09] <rxndx78> unop, thank you
[09:10] <unop> tarkus, reinstall locales -  sudo apt-get install --reinstall locales
[09:10] <olof_> aItsNotOut: nope...can't...but should maybe try to learn to get this work...
[09:10] <aItsNotOut> olof_: ls -l the symlink and then mknod /dev/mystupidmouse c 13 (whatever)
[09:10] <tarkus> unop: ok, done
[09:10] <aItsNotOut> olof_: yea, its really simple and really useful
[09:11] <olof_> aItsNotOut: i find it strange that there is no info to be found about this on the net....(tried google forever)...there must be more than me that is using multibutton mouse with this problem...
[09:11] <unop> tarkus, still getting those errors?
[09:11] <tarkus> unop: yea
[09:11] <umbrualbert> hi...what drivers do I need for Nvidia 8800 GTX SLI cards...I've tried ver169.12...get a blank screen
[09:11] <aItsNotOut> olof_: its probably a udev issue
[09:11] <MEzza> hi ,when i remove compiz i have no window decorator
[09:12] <tarkus> unop: fwiw, its not a local machine. im ssh'd into my VPS
[09:12] <MEzza> how ca i safely remove it
[09:12] <crdlb> MEzza: you don't
[09:12] <aItsNotOut> olof_: well, a udev issue along with a stupid xorg bug where it doesn't support symlinks in that specific instance ;)
[09:12] <unop> tarkus, try running that dpkg-reconfigure command again
[09:12] <MEzza> why?
[09:12] <tarkus> unop: ok
[09:12] <crdlb> MEzza: if you don't want to use compiz, disable it in System > Preferences > Appearance
[09:12] <tarkus> unop: same errors
[09:13] <nonfatmatt> tarkus, did you try the thing about debconf
[09:13] <aItsNotOut> olof_: i use the word futz when im doing something the totally wrong way
[09:13] <tarkus> nonfatmatt: whats that?
[09:13] <olof_> aItsNotOut: yea...annoying :P...thx for the help..i gonna search some more and see if i can make a script to change the xorg file for me...
[09:13] <olof_> aItsNotOut: hehe ok :)
[09:13] <nonfatmatt> um
[09:14] <aItsNotOut> making a dev file at boot is slightly easier than editing the conf file in a script fyi
[09:14] <nonfatmatt> okay you might have to set your debconf priority lower so 'dpk-reconfigure debconf' set it to low priority and then rerun the dpkg-reconfigure command again with locales
[09:14] <FC_Tommy> This has probably been discussed before, but are there any word on why 8.04 isnt out yet?
[09:14] <unop> tarkus, sudo apt-get install --reinstall locales localeconf; sudo locale-gen
[09:15] <dagon^> moar! :)
[09:16] <dreamcoder> i thought 8.04 was to be released today
[09:16] <dagon^> it is
[09:16] <unop> !isitout
[09:16] <ubotu> The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[09:16] <genii> dreamcoder: Today isn't over yet
[09:16] <unop> sometime later today
[09:16] <ariqs> I didn't even know there was a dvd release of ubuntu. Is it true?
[09:16] <dagon^> patience young padowan, patience
[09:16] <aItsNotOut> dreamcoder: its not today yet!
[09:16] <unop> ariqs, sure
[09:16] <dreamcoder> lol
[09:16] <aItsNotOut> <3 being confusing
[09:17] <tarkus> unop: i dont have localconf
[09:17] <ariqs> what's special about it, unop?
[09:17] <tarkus> unop: it doesnt exist in the repos either
[09:17] <ariqs> someone brought it up in the release channel, but chat scrolls by too fast for a conversation
[09:17] <spikemcc> http://releases.ubuntu.com/ pour/for ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron !!!
[09:17] <unop> ariqs, it contains more packages :) i've not tried it out myself, i'm for the minimalist approach
[09:17] <aItsNotOut> wow lots of localization packages
[09:17] <unop> tarkus, ok, not to worry, ignore the package and run.  sudo locale-gen
[09:18] <aItsNotOut> localechooser-data locales localization-config locales-all
[09:18] <Deets> hola
[09:18] <phishie> hola
[09:20] <cool> hi guys
[09:20] <niels_> hi
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[09:20] <cool> 1436 users on, and still increasing
[09:20] <DiegoMartinez> wow loot of people here
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[09:21] <icesword> cool, yep, 1436+++++ so much people...
[09:21] <dagon^> seems like a pretty big hype around hardy
[09:21] <kupesoft> How can I read .eml files?
[09:21] <icesword> #ubuntu will be bombed, lol
[09:21] <ariqs> I think not so many actual people here as idlers/bots
[09:21] <kupesoft> (email files)
[09:22] <Angel-SL> heh
[09:22] <Angel-SL> I hope ubuntu's servers have all the same content
[09:22] <DiegoMartinez> http://filext.com/file-extension/EML
[09:23] <Angel-SL> i'm using a download manager and i'd hate it if it downloads from 2 servers with different content
[09:23] <spikemcc> Angel_SL use jigdo !!!
[09:23] <Angel-SL> it found 10 more mirrors =.=
[09:23] <dagon^> Angel-SL; in your update-manager it will tell when 8.04 is out and it will be the LTS
[09:23] <sc_> at what time 8.04?
[09:24] <Angel-SL> no..
[09:24] <ariqs> no one knows, sc
[09:24] <Angel-SL> i'm on windows downloading Ubuntu for another machine
[09:24] <spikemcc>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/ pour/for ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron !!! sc_ check sometimes there !!!
[09:24] <cool> No Url Please
[09:24] <Angel-SL> that machine once ran Ubuntu
[09:24] <dagon^> people aren't that good at checking stuff out themselves
[09:24] <Lamego> kupesoft, please read the following thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-45838.html
[09:24] <XB23> after running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop thats installed, how do i connect to the desktop?
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[09:24] <Angel-SL> before i switched to windows
[09:24] <Angel-SL> and back to Ubuntu
[09:24] <sc_> i cant wait ne more
[09:25] <minus198> Does anyone have a more specific time when 8.04 is released
[09:25] <minus198> ?
[09:25] <dagon^> nope
[09:25] <spikemcc> Angel-SL jidgo can work on windows also !!!
[09:25] <dagon^> just sit tight
[09:25] <icesword> !isnotout
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isnotout - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <minus198> dagon^, :(
[09:25] <Lamego> XB23, you dont connect to the desktop, you start the desktop manager with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:25] <cool> sc_, then Grab RC, as good as 8.04
[09:25] <aItsNotOut> isitout
[09:25] <Lamego> !isitout
[09:25] <ubotu> The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[09:25] <icesword> !isitout
[09:25] <ariqs> I bet the servers drop dead as soon as it's released anyway
[09:25] <ariqs> far too much hype ;P
[09:25] <sc_> not like rc s
[09:25] <Xaroon> how many hours left???
[09:25] <dagon^> chill people, chill
[09:25] <aItsNotOut> !dontfloodthebotplease
[09:25] <cool> sc_, i guess then you have to wait
[09:26] <Angel-SL> wait
[09:26] <sc_> so excited
[09:26] <Angel-SL> they're releasing 8.04 today!?
[09:26] <cool> yes
[09:26] <CrazyRat> what's the difference between RC and the formal release?
[09:26] <spiniker> hello
[09:26] <propelhat> Does anyone have a time for the release?
[09:26] <Ademan> CRAP! whenever i run anything apt or dpkg related i get the following error: http://rafb.net/p/BX3xrV95.html     (i haven't done anything, not even a package installation, that should cause this...)
[09:26] <fserve> CrazyRat: nothing
[09:26] <sc_> i prepared all needings
[09:26] <Lamego> CrazyRat, all the fixes applied during this week
[09:27] <kupesoft> Lamego: thanks
[09:27] <olof_> when i start ubuntu in failsafe the graphics crashes rendering the failsafe useless...however there are no errors in the xorg.log...anyone know what to do?
[09:27] <DiegoMartinez> Release Candidate just miror bugs
[09:27] <sc_> 4 empty cd for isos
[09:27] <icesword> it is out already, but the team just didn't give it out.....
[09:27] <Angel-SL> i have 25+~25=50
[09:27] <CrazyRat> then why you guys so eager to upgrade to 8.04 if you're already using8.04 rc?
[09:27] <sc_> in case a fault lol
[09:27] <aItsNotOut> ah
[09:27] <fserve> i'm not eager
[09:27] <Lamego> CrazyRat, whoever us using RC is already at the final, those are not eager
[09:27] <CrazyRat> hehe
[09:27] <XB23> Lamego: but im a remote user
[09:28] <Lamego> I mean, was using RC
[09:28] <aItsNotOut> CrazyRat: i want it for the livecd but I can wait as someone had a gutsy x86_64 cd for me to use
[09:28] <icesword> let 's go and burn cds ,... lol
[09:28] <cool> olof_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:28] <spiniker> yeah what time is the release?
[09:28] <XB23> cant i connect to it via realvnc?
[09:28] <aItsNotOut> haha
[09:28] <Lamego> XB23, have you installed and started the vnc server ?
[09:28]  * AntonioValls re
[09:28] <XB23> no i dont know where i can get it from
[09:28] <spikemcc>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/ pour/for ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron !!! check there guys and refresh a lot you will see when it when it will come out !!!
[09:28] <XB23> just realvnc.com?
[09:28] <aItsNotOut> spiniker: if they had a set time they'd post it, us geeks are like that
[09:28] <insmod> i want to write a dhcp release script to stop (Counter) the Internet shaping any suggestions -- or has it been done?
[09:28] <Lamego> XB23, it's on the repositories
[09:29] <Ububegin> where are the screenshots for Hardy
[09:29] <XB23> ahh cool
[09:29] <spiniker> ok
[09:29] <XB23> apt-get install realvnc yeh?
[09:29] <dagon^> Ububegin; google
[09:29] <Lamego> Ububegin, google.com, ubuntu hardy screenshots
[09:29] <sc_> i cant stand
[09:29] <icesword> Ububegin, http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Heron%20LTS, there you go
[09:29] <aItsNotOut> insmod: just figure out some commands that do that, and then crontab a script that does those commands...
[09:29] <Ububegin> I have googled but no nice site so far
[09:29] <jeffimperial> Help with Window management... i tried installing compiz fusion from the Add/Remove Applications manager. After installation, I tried running it from a terminal session. It said somethin' about not having 8-bit support.. thing is, my the windows i open aren't the same as they were.. the bars and borders have disappeared.. how do i change these back to their default?
[09:29] <icesword> Ububegin, http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/?linux_distribution_sm=Ubuntu%208.04%20Hardy%20Heron%20LTS, there you go
[09:29] <waylandbill> happy hardy day. :)
[09:29] <cokolina1> no buffer space is available
[09:30] <sc_> 30 times into releases page lol
[09:30] <cokolina1> what a heck is that!
[09:30] <insmod> <aItsNotOut>ya i know how to do it -- just wondering if it has been done -- save me time
[09:30] <Ububegin> icesword: nice,dude
[09:31] <sc_> all waiting with cd ere lol
[09:31] <sc_> burn cds
[09:31] <sc_> cd burning day
[09:31] <whac> when its out, you should get a download-window instead of 404 here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[09:32] <sc_> ubuntu team !!!!!
[09:33] <thoreauputic> whac: wrong - it's not out until announced as out - the mirrors are syncing and hitting refresh all the time is just going to slow things down
[09:33] <sc_> release our heron
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[09:33] <aItsNotOut> thoreauputic: at least only a few people will be doing it
[09:34] <jeffimperial> guess everypne's busy waiting for hardy to help? :)
[09:34] <rhanthony> Is there anyone who might be able to help me figure out why my SSH tunneling is not working?  I'm at the end of my rope!
[09:34] <thoreauputic> aItsNotOut: we can all hope not :)
[09:34] <Seveas> jeffimperial, today is not a good day for help ;)
[09:34] <mijac> good morning from holland
[09:34] <dagon^> morning
[09:35] <FC_Tommy> Good morning
[09:35] <jeffimperial> Seveas, right...
[09:35] <rhanthony> Anyone here good with ssh tunnels?
[09:35] <mijac> you know guys I have again a problem, but I love it
[09:35] <mijac> now
[09:35] <Ububegin> mijac : goede ochtend
[09:35] <mijac> is that i CAN NOt mount my fat 32 disk
[09:35] <sc_> morning from Turkey-ubuntu
[09:35] <mijac> zelfde
[09:35] <Ademan> hey is iputils-arpng a package?
[09:35] <erichammond> rhanthony: what do you want to do?
[09:35] <spikemcc> http://mirror.lupaworld.com/ubuntu/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso is it a real link ???
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> spikemcc: no - don't post links.
[09:36] <mijac> and the message is mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:36] <icesword> hahahaha
[09:36] <rhanthony> erichamond: I'm trying to setup ssh tunneling so that everything I do from my laptop here at work, tunnels to my home server, and back...
[09:36] <icesword> cd burning day, goooooo!!!!!!!
[09:36] <rhanthony> I have sshd running on the server
[09:36] <scombob> rhathony, setup a SOCKS tunnel using ssh
[09:36] <rhanthony> but I can't seem to get web connections to go through it.
[09:36] <scombob> -D, iirc
[09:36] <mijac> Waar ben je Ububegin ?
[09:36] <sc_> yea icesword
[09:37] <whitedeth> I just installed Ubuntu on my PS3. It keeps saying "No Network Connection" even though it's connected to the internet.
[09:37] <whitedeth> What's going on?
[09:37] <rhanthony> I tried, the closest to working I get is my firefox returning a msg with the sshd and ubuntu version info.
[09:37] <Ademan> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA man, i just hand edited /var/lib/dpkg/status to fix my machine
[09:37] <jeffimperial> Anyone, pls help... I know it's not the best day for newbie nagging, but my prob is beginning to become tiring..
[09:37] <mijac> Waar ben je Ububegin ?
[09:37] <mijac> and the message is mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:37] <Ububegin> mijac : ik weet het hoe te om het geen Nederlands te spreken.
[09:38] <scombob> rhathony, have a look at "man ssh"
[09:38] <erichammond> If you can install squid on your home server, it could also work that way: http://www.softwarevoices.com/archives/54-ssh-tunnel-to-Amazon-EC2-as-a-temporary-web-proxy-for-privacy-and-security.html
[09:38] <mijac> oh nice
[09:38] <sc_> anyone from Turkey
[09:38] <On3> i cant connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com can anyone else?
[09:38] <Ububegin> mijac : power of altavista , babel... XD
[09:38] <scombob> try ssh user@host -D localhost:9999
[09:38] <mijac> okkkkk
[09:38] <whitedeth> I just installed Ubuntu on my PS3. It keeps saying "No Network Connection" even though it's connected to the internet.
[09:38] <kaminix> (subtitleeditor:7530): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_notebook_set_tab_label: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed    <--- Anyone know what I might need to fix that. A Gutsy package on hardy caused it, but... yeah... :p
[09:38] <erichammond> You can't do it with ssh tunnels alone.  It needs some sort of proxy (SOCKS, squid)
[09:38] <whitedeth> What's going on?
[09:38] <nonfatmatt> On3, it's hiding from you
[09:38] <fserve> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso
[09:38] <atlantide> i am using debian, i want to creat permanent eth1 virtuel interface somebody have some idea
[09:38] <Seveas> erichammond, ssh can be a socks proxy
[09:38] <sc_> hardy teaaaaaaam!!!!
[09:38] <scombob> eric: you can
[09:38] <whitedeth> My Ubuntu Install keeps saying "No Network Connection" but I'm connected to the internet. What gives?
[09:38] <whitedeth> its annoying as hell.
[09:38] <whitedeth> :\
[09:38] <rhanthony> now, i'm tring to do the work from a windows box.... so i dont have the whole ssh command line available.
[09:38] <erichammond> I stand corrected.
[09:38] <On3> nonfatmatt, hahahaha
[09:39] <On3> can anyone ping it?
[09:39] <scombob> rhathony: putty can do it
[09:39] <jeffimperial> Help with Window management... i tried installing compiz fusion from the Add/Remove Applications manager. After installation, I tried running it from a terminal session. It said somethin' about not having 8-bit support.. thing is, my the windows i open aren't the same as they were.. the bars and borders have disappeared.. how do i change these back to their default?
[09:39] <mijac> hello !!! who knows this problem ?????? > the message is mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:39] <On3> i think Ubuntu has dropped off cause they are getting ready to export mass amounts of 8.04
[09:39] <rhanthony> scombob: thats what i thought too, and when I do it, it just gives me sshd/ubuntu version info in my web browser, doesnt actually feed to the pages I want.
[09:39] <On3> only 34 minutes to go!
[09:39] <doubleukay-> it's cute how the topic reads "no, we don't know what time ubuntu 8.04 will be reased"
[09:39] <dagon^> On3; to what?
[09:40] <Seveas> doubleukay-, that's because we don't :)
[09:40] <dagon^> doubleukay-; say what?
[09:40] <On3> dagon^, till 8.04 comes out
[09:40] <dagon^> On3; how sure are you?
[09:40] <icesword> On3, how you know
[09:40] <doubleukay-> it's exactly what I came to this channel for :P
[09:40] <On3> part of the dev team
[09:40] <sc_> on3 ,is it official time?
[09:40] <rhanthony> I keep reading that it's just a command line and I can forward everything with ssh tunnels, but again... can't get it to go THROUGH the machine apparently, only TO the server.
[09:40] <On3> sc_, what do u mean by that?
[09:41] <sc_> u said 34 mins to go for 8.04?
[09:41] <mijac> hello !!! who knows this problem ?????? > the message is mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:41] <mijac> hello !!! who knows this problem ?????? > the message is mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:41] <On3> sc_, why would i be saying it if it wasnt official?
[09:41] <jeffimperial> and mijac are getting the silent treatment
[09:41] <sc_> ok
[09:41] <doubleukay-> On3: rumor-mongering! :P
[09:41] <On3> doubleukay, i know, dev team releases it :p
[09:41] <scombob> rhath: go to proxy, in putty, try socks5, localhost, then a high port
[09:41] <sc_> we ll see
[09:42] <mijac> hey jeffimperial what you mean ?
[09:42] <jeffimperial> mijac, been asking a question, all in vain it seems
[09:42] <spikemcc> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ for all releases of ubuntu !!!
[09:42] <rhanthony> source port should be a high port, and destination should be the server i want to tunnel to, right?
[09:43] <mijac> thank jeff
[09:43] <scombob> rhathony, i think dest should be localhost
[09:43] <aItsNotOut> for socks5 you dont specify a destination i thought
[09:43] <aItsNotOut> its just ssh -G 1080
[09:44]  * icesword hides
[09:44] <scombob> he's using putty
[09:44] <rhanthony> error: socks proxy returned unknown version
[09:44] <apecat> is it just me, or is https://wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[09:44] <nonfatmatt> it is
[09:44] <aItsNotOut> man linux needs a fixmytty command
[09:45] <nonfatmatt> because it's being pounded by everyone in #ubuntu-release-party
[09:45] <apecat> heh
[09:45] <sc_> 8.04 server editions released
[09:45] <apecat> how nice of them :)
[09:45] <sc_> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[09:45] <erichammond> altsNotOut: Sometimes this helps: stty sane
[09:45] <mijac> it will be nice if someone says: Oh I never saw that etc
[09:45] <rhanthony> in the ssh tunnels area of putty, it has source port, and destination host... everything says that should be "9999" for port, and "localhost" for destination.
[09:46] <rhanthony> that should be all I need to do to get it to work, according to every thread I read.
[09:46] <doubleukay-> sc_: do you know if the LTS version is identical to those ISOs?
[09:46] <mijac> guys guys, with the releas of ubuntu everybody shoul act as a comunity with patience
[09:46] <mijac> the patience is bitter but their results are sweet
[09:46] <rhanthony> however, it just connects TO my server... if that... doesnt go through it.
[09:46] <ng0n> ahhh.. the HEART of the evening...
[09:47] <mijac> in the meanwhile you can think about this
[09:47] <mijac> error : the message is mount_point cannot contain the following characters: newline, G_DIR_SEPARATOR (usually /)
[09:47] <sc_> no, but date is 24.04.08 12.22pm
[09:47] <olof_> how do i configure my settings for failsafe mode? the graphics crashes when i start ubuntu in failsafe...?
[09:47] <aItsNotOut> lol
[09:47] <aItsNotOut> olof_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <sc_> and no rc labels
[09:47] <ng0n> 3:45 am local here
[09:47] <stdin> !ops | spikemcc needs a ban in here too (link posting)
[09:47] <ubotu> spikemcc needs a ban in here too (link posting): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[09:47] <aItsNotOut> olof_: unless you cant get a console when it dies
[09:47] <thoreauputic> sc_: It isn't official until announced. That URL may or may not be it
[09:48] <whitedeth> uhh
[09:48] <sc_> url is official
[09:48] <whitedeth> can someone advise me on this?
[09:48] <whitedeth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438246
[09:48] <sidewalk> when is the new version of Ubuntu going to be released today?
[09:48] <whitedeth> thats the SAME problem im having?
[09:48] <cool> olof_,try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:48] <sc_> ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[09:48] <stdin> sc_: no link with a . dir is official
[09:48] <dagon^> sidewalk; topic!
[09:48] <jeffimperial> anyone interested to help yet?
[09:48] <olof_> aItsNotOut: that only changes my xorg.conf file...the failsafe file is untouched...so the error remains next time i start failsafe
[09:48] <aItsNotOut> oh
[09:48] <thoreauputic> sc_: no, final tweaks are still possible until it is *officially announced*
[09:48] <sidewalk> oki
[09:48] <aItsNotOut> well why do you need failsafe to work?
[09:49] <pavs> ubuntu out yet (probably asked a million times but i just got here)?
[09:49] <rhanthony> SO there should be NO other software on the server required, to pass all tcp connections through an ssh tunnel?
[09:49]  * aItsNotOut !
[09:49] <nks_> Ive download it - it works great - 8.04
[09:49] <rhanthony> my server shouldn't require anything other than sshd to handle all of that through a tunnel out to the rest of the world? right?
[09:49] <Ububegin> pavs : it's out, issnt it
[09:49] <nks_> ubuntu 8.04
[09:49] <dagon^> the rc is out
[09:49] <Symmetria> its not out
[09:49] <nks_> yes
[09:49] <dagon^> stop asking not
[09:49] <Symmetria> the rc is out
[09:49] <pavs> how do I upgrade form the terminal?
[09:50] <aItsNotOut> rhanthony: check the conf, tunneling is disablable
[09:50] <Kleidersa> Sorry, to stupid to google: Can I make GnomeNetworkManager save EAP-Login-Data to the keyring?
[09:50] <dagon^> pavs; update-manager -d
[09:50] <erUSUL> !upgrade | pavs
[09:50] <ubotu> pavs: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:50] <cool> pavi_, dis-upgrade
[09:50] <olof_> aItsNotOut: because it's pretty anoying to have the machine crash into failsafe everytime something is wrong in the xorg.conf file...
[09:50] <sidewalk> okey, so 8.04 is up
[09:50] <pavs> thnaks guys
[09:50] <rhanthony> aItsNotOut: thanks...
[09:50] <VirianArt> ubuntuuuuuuu
[09:50] <pavi_> cool thanks
[09:50] <VirianArt> bot
[09:50] <sidewalk> when will it be possible to "dist-upgrade" to it?
[09:50] <laeg> how long for ubuntu?
[09:50] <pfifo_fast> lol im installing ubuntu for the first time ever following some eeepc tutorial on the web and in less than one day im already outdated? wow isnt that the story of my life
[09:50] <jeffimperial> ubotu seems to care... Help with Window management... i tried installing compiz fusion from the Add/Remove Applications manager. After installation, I tried running it from a terminal session. It said somethin' about not having 8-bit support.. thing is, my the windows i open aren't the same as they were.. the bars and borders have disappeared.. how do i change these back to their default?
[09:50] <olof_> aItsNotOut: (for example when i trying to get my mouse to work... ^^)
[09:50] <aItsNotOut> sidewalk: dist-upgrade to rc :p
[09:51] <laeg> alado: when is the actual release out?
[09:51] <aItsNotOut> olof_: ah, well i dont know what failsafe does, I just boot normally for everything
[09:51] <VirianArt> 1 day:D
[09:51] <VirianArt> or today
[09:51] <VirianArt> ubuntu bot
[09:51] <VirianArt> hi
[09:51] <laeg> aItsNotOut: even
[09:51] <truffaut> the final version will be officially out at 12 GMT
[09:51] <laeg> VirianArt: but the 1day on the timer is gone
[09:51] <VirianArt> ubotu
[09:51] <laeg> truffaut: ty, gmt ftw!
[09:51] <aItsNotOut> so?
[09:51] <VirianArt> i knoe
[09:51] <On3> yea, its only 14 minutes now!
[09:51] <VirianArt> know*
[09:51] <VirianArt> it has an RC now
[09:51] <vlt> On3: GMT
[09:51] <VirianArt> ubotu hi
[09:51] <aItsNotOut> hmmm
[09:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:51] <laeg> rc lol nty
[09:51] <VirianArt> ubotu2 hi
[09:51] <aLone> hmmm
[09:51] <Kleidersa> Sorry, to stupid to google: Can I make GnomeNetworkManager save EAP-Login-Data to the keyring?
[09:51] <pavs> uprading :)
[09:52] <Ububegin> Can u guys stop asking about when ubuntu is out... >:(
[09:52] <VirianArt> ubotu hello i said
[09:52] <aItsNotOut> On3: is your clock ntp time synced?
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello i said - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <On3> vlt, ?
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[09:52] <Seveas> Kleidersack, it should do that
[09:52] <VirianArt> ubotu linux
[09:52] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:52] <aItsNotOut> lol
[09:52] <VirianArt> ubotu its smart
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about its smart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <olof_> aItsNotOut: yea...me too...but when the mouse is pointing to the wrong event-device (every boot), ubuntu lauches failsafe and crashes...
[09:52] <fserve> ubotu bot
[09:52] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:52] <VirianArt> ubotu windows
[09:52] <rhanthony> aItsNotOut: I dont see anything disabling tunneling in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ...
[09:52] <VirianArt> ubotu windows xp
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows xp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <VirianArt> lol
[09:52] <aItsNotOut> olof_: ewwww, hurry up and futz something together
[09:53] <Kleidersack> @seveas: unfortunately not :-/  I have to enter the informations each time... For WEP it works fine :-(
[09:53] <dagon^> yeah, yeah. the bot is super phun
[09:53] <pavs> wow this is a lot faster than the last upgrade :)
[09:53] <fserve> who knows what is 'nullmailer' ?
[09:53] <On3> aItsNotOut, what time is it saying to going to be released??
[09:53] <rhanthony> ubotu ssh
[09:53] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:53] <Seveas> !info nullmailer | fserve
[09:53] <ubotu> fserve: nullmailer (source: nullmailer): simple relay-only mail transport agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.03-5 (gutsy), package size 80 kB, installed size 392 kB
[09:53] <olof_> aItsNotOut: hehe, yea i guess :P
[09:54] <rhanthony> I hate ssh tunnel crap :P
[09:54] <aItsNotOut> On3: i dunnom dont really care but from what you're saying it'll be 2:10 my time ;)
[09:54] <truffaut> On3: 12.00 GMT, but there can be late with mirroring
[09:54] <Aciid> when is it comingg!
[09:54] <aItsNotOut> rhanthony: what are you trying to forward?
[09:54] <rhanthony> aItsNotOut: are you familiar with setting up tunneling in putty?
[09:54] <On3> truffaut, ohhh... i c...
[09:54] <stdin> there is no set time
[09:54] <Kleidersack> rhanthony: What the Problem with tunels & putty?
[09:55] <rhanthony> aItsNotOut: everything... want to open an ssh from laptop to home server, and pass everything through it... that is possible, correct? everyone says it is with just sshd on the server.
[09:55] <Symmetria> heh Im very very curious to see how my mirror server handles this release, the last release we were actually running solaris on the mirror, this time we're running ubuntu and have some absolutely sick hardware to handle the load
[09:55] <aItsNotOut> ah
[09:55] <truffaut> it's scheduled to midday because everyone around the world need to get it the 04/24
[09:55] <sedra> hello
[09:55] <Kleidersack> rhanthony: You can just forward some ports AFAIk
[09:55]  * Symmetria threw a total of 80gigs of ram, 32 cpu cores and loads of fiber channel san's at his mirror cluster
[09:55] <Seveas> Symmetria, what kind of storage?
[09:55] <insmod> <rhanthony>it is i do it all the time
[09:55] <jeffimperial> can anyone point me to a room where there IS help?
[09:55] <ether_c> why does it matter that "everyone gets it on the 24th".. it's just a number
[09:56] <rhanthony> I just need help getting the tunnel connected then I guess.
[09:56] <Symmetria> Seveas a mixtures, 32 terabytes in total, some of it to NFS sans, some of it to SAS direct attached sans and some of it to FC sans
[09:56] <rhanthony> Using putty on a xp laptop.
[09:56] <aItsNotOut> rhanthony: I've never done all traffic, I used squid for that
[09:56] <Seveas> Symmetria, nice
[09:56] <milia_> has anyone used the nvidia 173.08 drivers on a gef 8400M G , 8.04 rc ?
[09:56] <truffaut> jeffimperial: where do u come from ?
[09:56] <rhanthony> the best I can get is opening www.google.com, shows me the sshd/ubuntu version of my server in firefox :( but no google.
[09:56] <Seveas> where are you putting the isos?
[09:56] <Symmetria> and then we anycasted the system between two locations in .za to split up the load
[09:56] <Seveas> nfs or fiber?
[09:56] <Symmetria> Seveas depends which anycast you hit
[09:56] <riftdawg> anyone know of a cheap sip trunk provider that does instant activation via paypal or something or some test sip server?
[09:56] <Seveas> right
[09:56] <riftdawg> i want to test out my asterisk install
[09:56] <rhanthony> mainly i NEED web to be tunneled.  would like everything.
[09:57] <Symmetria> Seveas serving the isos off 3 seperate systems, one of them is FC, one is NFS and one is SAS
[09:57] <Symmetria> but Seveas with the amount of ram we've thrown at it, its gonna cache into ram and the disks will hardly get touched
[09:57] <truffaut> ether_c: yeah, but that's it, no need to argue 'bout it :p
[09:57] <aItsNotOut> rhanthony: my copy of putty doesn't support doing the socks5 style tunneling, hmm
[09:57] <Kleidersack> rhanthony: you need a proxy on your server!
[09:57] <Seveas> Symmetria, heh, true that
[09:57] <aItsNotOut> 0.52, what are you on?
[09:57] <oliver_> I have used the command "sudo vi <file>" and I am now editing a .conf file inside the terminal, hw do I save it?
[09:57] <raseel> Ubuntu 8.04 is not out yet ?
[09:57] <Seveas> raseel, no
[09:57] <dagon^> omg no
[09:57] <rhanthony> do i need proxy software on the server? every thread about ssh tunneling says all you need is sshd.
[09:57] <dagon^> topic ffs
[09:57] <sedra> whereis download link??
[09:58] <rhanthony> no one mentions needing additiona server software....
[09:58] <aItsNotOut> sedra: the usual locations
[09:58] <sedra> i found the RC on the ubuntu website
[09:58] <Symmetria> Seveas if I can get the forth server online before the release (which Im working on as we speak) I can have a forth server with a ram disk with all the isos
[09:58] <Symmetria> :p
[09:58] <dagon^> sedra; good for you, lts is on the way
[09:58] <doubleukay-> Symmetria: how's bandwidth in .za like?
[09:58] <tony134340> anyone know how to set xchat to not show annoying away/quit/enter messages?
[09:58] <aItsNotOut> sedra: i'd be all try tpb but I'd get banned if i linked it probably ;)
[09:58] <dany_21a> oliver_: type ":wq"
[09:58] <Seveas> Symmetria, then get back to work instead of wasting time in here :p
[09:58] <rhanthony> insmod: you ssh tunnel all tcp traffic?
[09:58] <Symmetria> doubleukay- internationally it sucks, well, it sucks everywhere in .za, but we have multiple 10gig peers to the major ISPs in .za
[09:58] <dagon^> tony134340; in the preferences menu
[09:59] <sedra> ok can i upgrade from the beta?
[09:59] <ere4si> tony134340: right click the tab
[09:59] <rhanthony> insmod: your own server running sshd?
[09:59] <sedra> to the RC
[09:59] <dbzhang800> oliver_ ,type "<Esc>:wq"
[09:59] <Symmetria> Seveas heh, waiting for something on the server at the moment (copying everything to the servers SAS arrays before I start working on the ram disk stuff)
[09:59] <tony134340> ere4si, thanks, any way to do it permanently?
[09:59] <DracoZA> Symmetria,  u in SA ?
[09:59] <ether_c> ~$ whereis download link
[09:59] <Symmetria> DracoZA yes
[09:59] <ether_c> link: /usr/bin/link /usr/include/link.h /usr/share/man/man1/link.1.gz
[09:59] <insmod> <rhanthony>ya but it's linux boxes i never ran windows
[09:59] <oliver_> Thanks!
[09:59] <DracoZA> Symmetria, what company if I may ask >
[09:59] <Symmetria> DracoZA TENET
[09:59] <Flashq009> when are download links to 8.04  being posted? waiting to download.
[09:59] <DracoZA> thx
[09:59] <Symmetria> I run mirror.ac.za
[09:59] <ere4si> tony134340: not that I've found
[10:00] <dagon^> Flashq009; keep track on the site
[10:00] <rsc___> so when is it? :D
[10:00] <Symmetria> DracoZA I presume you're also in .za, jhb or cpt?
[10:00] <dagon^> rsc___; read topic
[10:00] <aItsNotOut> hmm maybe I should be aTheresNoETA
[10:00] <raseel> Seveas: when do you think it will be available ?
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[10:01] <aTheresNoETA> yay
[10:01] <aTheresNoETA> hey everyone look at my nick
[10:01] <Symmetria> DracoZA can you check something for me? resolve za.releases.ubuntu.com and paste it to me, I wanna triple check the anycast
[10:01] <dagon^> :)
[10:01] <rhanthony> insmod: okay, but you can do ALL tcp traffic through a single ssh tunnel? just need to know that is infact able to be done, without additional software on the server (just sshd)... and it can, right?
[10:01] <Seveas> raseel, today
[10:01] <insmod> <rhanthony>on linux yes
[10:01] <rhanthony> insmod: trying to figure out if my attempts are futile or not... if it's possible, i'll keep going.
[10:01] <DracoZA> Symmetria, sure 1 sec
[10:01] <aTheresNoETA> should I do it as well even tho im in CA?
[10:02] <rhanthony> insmod: cool.  putty should be able to do everything linux ssh can.  so it's just a matter ofmaking it work.
[10:02] <doubleukay-> Symmetria: do your two locations have independent storage?
[10:02] <Symmetria> doubleukay- yes
[10:02] <doubleukay-> Symmetria: that's gotta be expensive :)
[10:02] <insmod> <rhanthony>my brother used that to conect to a linux box
[10:02] <Symmetria> doubleukay- they are on opposite sides of the country :) and I havent had a chance to get FCoDWDM stuff working yet
[10:02] <doubleukay-> I see
[10:02] <Symmetria> doubleukay- *shrug* the combined cost of all the mirror.ac.za stuff with the disk space and everything else is probably running to the 200 thousand dollar mark
[10:02] <activebeta> HI
[10:03] <tony134340> ere4si, just found out via google if you wanna know as well. command is "/set irc_conf_mode 1"
[10:03] <Symmetria> drop in the bucket compared to a lot of other stuff we spend money on
[10:03] <activebeta> when will be released 8.04?
[10:03] <doubleukay-> Symmetria: I see
[10:03] <rhanthony> insmod: is it necessary to configure firefox to use the tunnel? or should the tunnel just be taking over on it's own once the ssh is open?
[10:03] <rhanthony> insmod: i have read both ways on forums/articles....
[10:03] <rhanthony> conflicting "how to" things
[10:03] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to disable flash in Firefox until its wanted? It crashes the browser quite often :(
[10:04] <Symmetria> doubleukay- I got lucky yesterday though, I went to an auction of a liquidating hardware supplier, managed to pick up another 4 servers, all of them quad dual-core xeon based
[10:04] <Symmetria> for 13k US with the ram, disks, servers everything
[10:04] <insmod> <rhanthony>never used firefox for it
[10:04] <tony134340> chazco, use no-script add-on
[10:04] <doubleukay-> Symmetria: which xeons? sounds power hungry
[10:04] <doubleukay-> but yeah that's a steal!
[10:04] <rhanthony> insmod: do you have to setup whatever browser you use, for a 'proxy' or anything? or just open the ssh and browse as normal?
[10:04] <chazco> tony134340 - Tried flash block before... was hoping for a native way (dont like non-repo code on this system)
[10:04] <Symmetria> doubleukay- 3.2ghz cores
[10:04] <tony134340> chazco, and i believe you can disable flash via preferences as well
[10:05] <manoova> chazco: install the flashblock add-on
[10:05] <insmod> <rhanthony>are you going linux to win or win to linux
[10:05] <rhanthony> Symmetria: sounds like you got a great deal!  grats.
[10:05] <rhanthony> insmod: win to linux.
[10:05] <chazco> manoova - I tried that on another system (flash still loads briefly)... want a native way
[10:06] <insmod> <rhanthony>no idea --- install the other way and install fish and it configures fore you
[10:06] <Ububegin> how to kill an application which was not launched from a shell
[10:06] <insmod> <rhanthony>i have never used win so...
[10:06] <XB23> guys ive installed ubuntu desktop, but how do i use it remotely?
[10:06] <rasimu> Hi, I've installed yesterday ubuntu 8.04 and after installation when trying to run vmware-server I get the following error: /etc/init.d/vmware-server: 766: /usr/lib/vmware-server/net-services.sh: not found
[10:07] <DracoZA> XB23, like remote desktop type of remotely ?
[10:07] <chazco> May try to remove flash alltogether until its fixed
[10:07] <Toznoshio> XB23: you need x11vnc
[10:07] <alado> XB23: you can use vnc/tight vnc
[10:07] <rhanthony> insmod: so you ssh to your server, and then just open your browser and it works over the tunnel automatically? no proxy settings needed in the browser?
[10:07] <XB23> ok ive installed x11vnc
[10:07] <Beefeater> While we are waiting. Does anyone have any ideas on how to optimize video in vmware? Need WinXP to watch DRM-protected media.
[10:07] <doubleukay-> quick q, is it possible to do-release-upgrade from 8.04 rc.. to 8.04 final?
[10:07] <XB23> 24/04/2008 10:05:46 *** XOpenDisplay failed. No -display or DISPLAY.
[10:08] <XB23> i get that error when i try to start vnc
[10:08] <et_> did you install vmware tools?
[10:08] <fserve> doubleukay-: yes it is
[10:08] <doubleukay-> XB23: x11vnc needs a running X server
[10:08] <doubleukay-> fserve: thanks
[10:08] <XB23> an x server?
[10:08] <doubleukay-> ahh
[10:08] <rhanthony> insmod: so you ssh to your server, and then just open your browser and it works over the tunnel automatically? no proxy settings needed in the browser?
[10:08] <sidewalk> if i want to be able to dist-upgrade with apt-get, do i need to edit /etc/apt/source.list ?
[10:08] <insmod> <rhanthony> the only browser one I do is fish and no -- no proxy
[10:08] <Toznoshio> XB23: I use reverse VNC, so my command looks like this: x11vnc -connect IP-of-vncviewr
[10:09] <doubleukay-> XB23: do you hav ea running ubuntu login screen already?
[10:09] <rhanthony> insmod, k.
[10:09] <XB23> im not sure doubleukay- as i only have remote access to the box
[10:09] <XB23> ive installed ubuntu-desktop and started it
[10:09] <doubleukay-> XB23: I see. is the box to be used remotely all the time?
[10:09] <XB23> root@nebula:~# /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:09] <XB23>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...
[10:09] <XB23>    ...done.
[10:09] <XB23> yes doubleukay-
[10:09] <doubleukay-> or are you helping someone to install it.. who will be using it locally
[10:10] <XB23> nope, its or remote all the time
[10:10] <XB23> for*
[10:10] <doubleukay-> ok
[10:10] <rasimu> Hi, I've installed yesterday ubuntu 8.04 and after installation when trying to run vmware-server I get the following error: /etc/init.d/vmware-server: 766: /usr/lib/vmware-server/net-services.sh: not found
[10:10] <rasimu> any ideas?
[10:10] <noob-africa> greetings all!
[10:10] <doubleukay-> you can try the vnc4server package instead
[10:11] <noob-africa> i have just downloaded, untarred and tried to compile Xara Extreme for Linux
[10:11] <yeah> try virtualbox
[10:11] <noob-africa> am getting errors
[10:11] <XB23> okie
[10:11] <noob-africa> can anyone assist?
[10:11] <znag> Anyone successfully running a Xen Environment on Ubuntu Server? I am considering to migrate my Servers from Etch to Heron
[10:11] <erUSUL> noob-africa: why not install the aviable version?
[10:11] <XB23> ok installed that doubleukay-
[10:11] <XB23> what do i do to run it
[10:11] <doubleukay-> XB23: then just run "vncserver"
[10:11] <noob-africa> erUSUL: hey.... what do u mean?
[10:11] <XB23> k
[10:12] <erUSUL> !info xaralx | noob-africa
[10:12] <grimsqueaker13> i think im trying to do the same thing as XB23, i need to setup a vnc server on a headless machine so that it will always be accessible.
[10:12] <ubotu> noob-africa: xaralx (source: xaralx): Heavyweight vector graphics, illustration and DTP Program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.7r1692-2 (gutsy), package size 4573 kB, installed size 11776 kB
[10:12] <doubleukay-> it will prompt you for a password. after that you can connect to it with a vnc client
[10:12] <grimsqueaker13> which package should i use?
[10:12] <doubleukay-> I don't know if you'll get the full ubuntu environment when run that way though
[10:12] <doubleukay-> but hope that helps for now
[10:12] <doubleukay-> gtg!
[10:12] <erUSUL> noob-africa: i mean that you do not need to conile it just install xaralx package
[10:12] <noob-africa> erUSUL: that is what i installed... am getting errors when running the final command bin/xaralx
[10:12] <noob-africa> erUSUL: where do i get the package file?
[10:13] <XB23> doubleukay-
[10:13] <XB23> i get the error
[10:13] <XB23> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s
[10:13] <noob-africa> erUSUL: there is the Autopackage version, but i dont know how that  gets installed...
[10:13] <XB23> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[10:13] <erUSUL> noob-africa: Applications>Add/Remove ?? System>Admin>Synaptic ??
[10:13] <rhanthony> I have the tunnel setup in putty how it says to... and it still shows the real IP on www.whatismyip.org, so it's not passing over the tunnel :(
[10:13] <noob-africa> erUSUL: hehehe... i had forgottedn about that... lemme see... thanks
[10:14] <Dersew> hi
[10:14] <rhanthony> does anyone have ssh tunnel experience with puTTY on windows?
[10:14] <rhanthony> if it ONLY requires sshd on my server, then the problem must be on the client side somewhere...
[10:14] <aTheresNoETA> heh
[10:14] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: what version of putty are you using?
[10:14] <andcorps> hey everyone
[10:14] <BuFF> so it's already final here ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ right ?
[10:14] <stdin> no
[10:14] <billgoldberg> I know I must be the 1000th person to ask, but when will the stable verions of hardy come out.
[10:15] <chazco> File: ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso  	715898 KB  	23/04/08  	01:03:00
[10:15] <chazco> Is that the final version?
[10:15] <stdin> chaky: no
[10:15] <vfour> ranthony: what are you trying to tunnel?
[10:15] <karllenz1> is there a fan speed application for ubuntu i think my laptop is overheating
[10:15] <noob-africa> erUSUL: thanks... its working (but of course)... what will happen to the files i previously downloaded and tried to bin/xaralx? will they get removed automatically?
[10:16] <erUSUL> noob-africa: i do not think so; how did you installed them?
[10:16] <znag> rhanthony: have you tried using plink?
[10:16] <Jimmey> Does anyone know how to make screenlets stay on the desktop when I use the "show desktop" button with compiz enabled?
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[10:16] <hanumankatuwal> what exact time is hardy coming out??
[10:16] <rhanthony> znag: no, i thought putty itself would do it, thats what all of the how-tos and forum threads say.
[10:16] <dagon^> hanumankatuwal; topic
[10:16] <white_eagle> !topic | hanumankatuwal
[10:16] <ubotu> hanumankatuwal: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
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[10:17] <rhanthony> PuTTY v 0.59
[10:17] <dini> i need photoshop for ubuntu
[10:17] <hanumankatuwal> dagon^: im too imaptient :( thanks btw
[10:17] <dagon^> dini; i present gimp
[10:17] <Seveas> !info gimp | dini
[10:17] <ubotu> dini: gimp (source: gimp): The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu0.7.10.1 (gutsy), package size 3805 kB, installed size 10488 kB
[10:17] <rhanthony> dini: get GIMP
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[10:17] <andcorps> then u can upgrade with gimpshop
[10:17] <billgoldberg> dini: photoshop cs2 will run fine in wine
[10:17] <dini> what is gimp
[10:18] <Deets> what is the maximun number of people that have been in this channel?
[10:18] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, where can i find radio stations
[10:18] <tankdriver> 3
[10:18] <aTheresNoETA> im on a mexican radio, radio
[10:18] <noob-africa> dini: Graphic Image Manipulation Program (GIMP)
[10:18] <Seveas> arvind_khadri, usually between 87.7 and 104 FM
[10:18] <icesword> dini, gimp<>photoshop
[10:18] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, can i tune that in rhythmbox
[10:18] <aTheresNoETA> lool
[10:18] <noob-africa> billgoldberg: does Adobe Illustrator CS2 also run fine in wine? which version of Wine did u download? From Ubuntu's repos or from winehq.com?
[10:18] <Seveas> arvind_khadri, :)
[10:19] <Koheleth> hey does google earth not run on amd64?
[10:19] <billgoldberg> from the repo's, I've onl y run photoshop cs 2 and it ran without any problem
[10:19] <noob-africa> Koheleth: depends... how did u install it?
[10:19] <chazco> They're reporting on the forums that the final version is here: ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[10:19] <ThreeFingerPete> it feels like christmas eve! why isnt the new ubuntu here yet? ;)
[10:19] <Koheleth> sh a .bin
[10:19] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, :) i wanted internet radio stations lost mine....could you tell me the default ones plz :)
[10:19] <Deets> Koheleth, my google earth can't connect with the servers, is the last beta
[10:19] <billgoldberg> check the wine website for more info on other apps
[10:19] <umbrualbert> Guys, I need some help with nvidia install
[10:19] <noob-africa> billgoldberg: have u tried Illustrator CS2?
[10:19] <billgoldberg> no
[10:19] <umbrualbert> 2x8800 GTX cards
[10:19] <Koheleth> not a big loss I suppose
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[10:20] <Koheleth> not a big fan of Google
[10:20] <rhanthony> anyone with experience doing ssh tunnels with putty, please let me know.  about to set my laptop and server on fire I'm so frustrated!
[10:20] <osfameron> morning
[10:20] <osfameron> how can I add a keyboard shortcut for an arbitrary command?
[10:20] <znag> rhantony: do you have port forwarding enabled?
[10:20] <osfameron> I want a keyboard shortcut for "gksu synaptic" but it doesn't looke like I can do that from "Keyboard Shortucts" under System->Preferences
[10:20] <dini> i want to play nfs in ubuntu pls anybody help me
[10:20] <rhanthony> znag: port forwarding on the server?
[10:20] <glederfein> Anyone here with any experience connecting to a VPN PPTP server??
[10:20] <arvind_khadri> Seveas, :) i wanted internet radio stations lost mine....could you tell me the default ones plz :)
[10:21] <arvind_khadri> dini, install wine
[10:21] <znag> rhanthony: yeah not sure if its required for ssh tunneling
[10:21] <rhanthony> znag: crap, i dont think so!  and I'm guessing that would be the key to ... forwarding my connections, eh? :)
[10:21] <glederfein> I'm having trouble connecting...
[10:21] <TromBoeZoe> !upgrade
[10:21] <white_eagle> did my question deliver?
[10:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:21] <white_eagle> I had KDE installed as my secondary DE, now after I removed it,(removed every app that had KDE in its description) apps' menus (like SpeedCrunch and Opera) look ugly, they don't look blue'ish like they used to, so I guess I removed the qt libraries, I want them back so the apps' menus to look the same as before, I'm asking now what packages do I need to install?
[10:21] <dini> arvind _khadri i installed wine but i dont know how to use it
[10:21] <grrr> hello, where is the new lts ubuntu???
[10:21] <rhanthony>  whats the easiest way to enable port forwarding?
[10:21] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: be lazy, use squid configured to only allow connections from localhost and then tunnel like 1080 to 127.0.0.1:1080
[10:22] <znag> rhanthony: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[10:22] <hanumankatuwal> rhanthony: use firestarter
[10:22] <arvind_khadri> dini, just install the files of nfs and double click on the icon so that the game starts
[10:22] <hanumankatuwal> !firestarter
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:22] <glederfein> ANYONE?
[10:22] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: oh you didn't enable forwarding to connect to your sshd? haha
[10:22] <zappy> hello
[10:22] <rhanthony> i dont wanna be easy... i wanna use ssh... dont want to over complex my system needlessly.
[10:22] <zappy> i ve a question
[10:22] <Jaro> hi everybody
[10:22] <znag> rhantony: should be set to 1 but im not absolutely sure its required for ssh tunneling
[10:23] <aTheresNoETA> znag: its not
[10:23] <zappy> wot time ubuntu will be released?
[10:23] <aTheresNoETA> !isitout > zappy
[10:23] <wkuess> zappy look here ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/
[10:23] <gaouzief> ok, i guess it's been asked a thousand times but: when exactly is hardy oficial comin out?
[10:23] <marvxxx> haha
[10:23] <dagon^> OMG
[10:23] <wkuess> !isitout
[10:23] <ubotu> The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[10:23] <rhanthony> znag: it's 0, change it to a 1? must i restart anything to have it take affect?
[10:23] <dagon^> topic people, topic!
[10:23] <hanumankatuwal> !topic | gaouzief
[10:23] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: no
[10:23] <ubotu> gaouzief: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:23] <white_eagle> did someone answer my queston?
[10:23] <hanumankatuwal> :D
[10:24] <rhanthony> aTheresNoETA: yeah, I think I skipped turning it on with the install... dont remember it...
[10:24] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: you dont need to set it for that, and thats a run time setting, you'd have to script something to set it at boot
[10:24] <glederfein> I've tried MANY different ways to connect to a PPTP VPN server and NONE succeeded!
[10:24] <waylandbill> guess the topic is useless. seems like noone reads it.
[10:24] <white_eagle> I read it
[10:24] <XB23> when i run vncserver i get the error
[10:24] <XB23> vxterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s
[10:24] <XB23> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[10:24] <decti> " No. we don't know exactly the time when 8.04 will be released." why NOT ????
[10:24] <XB23> whats it mean?
[10:24] <Deets> first, they have to send the final to the mirrors, what must be happening just no, I guess
[10:24] <white_eagle> !offtopic | decti
[10:24] <zappy> ty
[10:24] <ubotu> decti: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:24] <rhanthony> so, portfowarding is NOT necessary to ssh tunnel my laptop through my server, to the rest of the world? or it is?
[10:24] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: the port forwarding is for nat, or you run it on your router becuase you're forwarding port 22 to some box
[10:25] <decti> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:25] <rhanthony> oh...
[10:25] <glederfein> I keep getting "Remote message: Request Denied"
[10:25] <noob-africa> does anyone know how much ram one should have on their system when running graphics apps in wine?
[10:25] <white_eagle> does someone know which packages do I need to install sto qt apps' menus to look properly??
[10:25] <rhanthony> no, my routers are forwarding 22 to the right place (ssh'd in to use bitchx to get here)
[10:25] <white_eagle> blue'ish like they used to
[10:25] <dini> hey how to install photoshop in ubuntu
[10:25] <X-Seti> you cant
[10:25] <rhanthony> so i can ssh to my server, no problem.  issue is getting my laptop here to web browse, through the ssh tunnel... wont work.
[10:25]  * nanopino hi
[10:25] <white_eagle> because I removed everything connected to KDE, and they are gone now, and I still use some qt apps
[10:25] <noob-africa> dini: do u have Wine installed and running?
[10:25] <X-Seti> download gimp instead
[10:25] <Wutz> At ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ there is a file called "ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso" does anyone know if this is jsut the beta?
[10:25] <nanopino> hi
[10:25] <john7121> try GIMP
[10:25] <stimpie> dini call adobe and ask them for a linux version
[10:25]  * white_eagle is bored fr asking this the 10000 time
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[10:26] <skep> 11:08 < haks> du wohnst doch gleich in der gegend und hast sicher nix zu tun
[10:26] <skep> 11:08 < haks> du wohnst doch gleich in der gegend und hast sicher nix zu tun
[10:26] <aTheresNoETA> hey skep !de or whatever ;)
[10:26] <rhanthony> dini: apt-get install gimp
[10:26] <noob-africa> X-Seti: GIMP doesnt have a straight-forward GUI that is as easy to comprehend as Photoshop
[10:26] <XB23> whats this error mean
[10:26] <XB23> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: %s
[10:26] <XB23> xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[10:26] <dagon^> gimp should be installed by default
[10:26] <skep> argh..
[10:26] <glederfein> GIMP ROCKS!
[10:26] <stdin> there are NO official Hardy ISOs yet
[10:26] <Seveas> dagon^, it is
[10:26] <noob-africa> if they made GIMP behave more like photoshop it could do the trick
[10:26] <white_eagle> !offtopic
[10:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:26] <aTheresNoETA> white_eagle: look properly? interesting
[10:26] <nanopino> hi
[10:26] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: with blue'ish menus, not like now
[10:27] <Shimmy_> noob-africa: try GimpShop
[10:27] <dagon^> it's almost the same as PS, gosh
[10:27] <aTheresNoETA> white_eagle: having all that kde crap installed just wastes diskspace btw
[10:27] <immk> #join ubuntu+1
[10:27] <dini> hey what is gimp
[10:27] <john7121> cen t-am a mbeidh HH ar fail. an bhfuil fhios ag eine?
[10:27] <aTheresNoETA> white_eagle: look for like kde themes
[10:27] <X-Seti> I havent had much luck with wine on ubuntu, i dont why, it's been better on other unices
[10:27] <Seveas> dini, an image editing program like photoshop
[10:27] <aTheresNoETA> (i dont use kde, sorry)
[10:27] <noob-africa> Shimmy_: it works like Photoshop?
[10:27] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: do you know which packages I need to install or not
[10:27] <noob-africa> X-Seti: how much ram do u have?
[10:27] <Shimmy_> noob-africa: it's designed to be more like photoshop yes.
[10:27] <X-Seti> 8Gig
[10:27] <aTheresNoETA> I never know the answer, but look for the package you removed that had to do with themes
[10:28] <rhanthony> has anyone ever ssh tunneled from a windows box, to a linux sshd server, and through to the rest of the net?
[10:28] <dini> seveas i already have one here
[10:28] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: I removed a huge amount of packages
[10:28] <roffe__> If Canonical makes money helping people and companies with fixing Ubuntu for w/e reason.. Do we ever have to fear that they will make bugs on purpose?
[10:28] <Shimmy_> noob-africa: http://www.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Gimpshop-Screenshot-79648.html
[10:28] <Seveas> roffe__, no
[10:28] <aTheresNoETA> white_eagle: kdeartwork-theme-window
[10:29] <aTheresNoETA> how about that one, did you remove that?
[10:29] <gaouzief> anyone has had experience with a heavy loaded ubuntu server 64b with an nfs share where front end servers write stuff? safe choice?
[10:29] <spikeb> roffe__, nah, bugs will crop up all by themselves by the plenty. plus, they still get to support even a bug free product
[10:29] <spikeb> if there was such a thing
[10:29] <dini> i wanna DVD player for ubuntu pls anyone help me
[10:29] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: thanks, I'll try installing it now
[10:29] <dagon^> dini; VLC
[10:29] <Myrtti> /me gives roffe__ an aluminium pot to put on to keep the conspiracy theories at bay
[10:29] <X-Seti> dini i can help
[10:29] <vlt> rhanthony: Yes
[10:29] <noob-africa> X-Seti: really? on a server or desktop pc? that is HUGE!
[10:29] <stimpie> dini, use vlc, mplayer or totem
[10:29] <X-Seti> both
[10:29] <rhanthony> vlt: what windows client did you use? and was it your own sshd server you tunneled through?
[10:29] <dini> but i have one
[10:29] <noob-africa> X-Seti: the most ram i can get on my pc is 4 GB, and i aint even half way there
[10:29] <rhanthony> dini: apt-get install vlc
[10:30] <aTheresNoETA> argh why is packages.ubuntu.com filtering results when im vague?
[10:30] <aTheresNoETA> im vague for a REASON
[10:30] <roffe__> Ok guys... But the more they nail down bugs, people will need less help, right?
[10:30] <X-Seti> your missing a package
[10:30] <vlt> rhanthony: ssh from Cygwin and my own sshd.
[10:30] <Myrtti> roffe__: the development of open source is eternal
[10:30] <noob-africa> X-Seti: what's the manufacture year of ur pc? mine is 2003... i think Dell Dimension XPS Gen 4
[10:30] <john7121> where is ubuntu????
[10:30] <roffe__> Or do they give support for other reasons as well?
[10:30] <white_eagle> ubuntu.com
[10:30] <Myrtti> roffe__: there ALWAYS be new bugs
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[10:30] <X-Seti> mine was built to spec
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[10:31] <stimpie> roffe__, this is the same discussion about anti-virus companies
[10:31] <noob-africa> X-Seti: by whom? and how much did it cost u?
[10:31] <rhanthony> vlt: okay, i'm trying to ssh from putty to my own sshd.... nothing else running on the server, and i just can't seem to make the tunnel work.  ssh works fine (using that now to get to irc)... but can't get things going over the tunnel.  any experience with putty?
[10:31] <Myrtti> there is no such thing as a ready floss project
[10:31] <dini> how to play nfs using wine any help
[10:31] <dagon^> john7121; on 2 of my 3 computers
[10:31] <rhanthony> vlt: was port forwarding or anything else necessary to be running on the sshd machine?
[10:31] <On3> ill show u mine if u show me urs ;) ;)
[10:31] <X-Seti> nini sudo apt-get install kde ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:31]  * dagon^ shows it to On3 
[10:31] <X-Seti> sudo apt-get install vlc xine-ui mplayer libdvdread3 kaffeine
[10:31] <roffe__> stimpie: yeah, I guess, but didn't an anti-virus-maker get caught making viruses as well?
[10:31] <vlt> rhanthony: What exactly do you need to send through the tunnel?
[10:31] <X-Seti> then do
[10:31] <stimpie> roffe__, most paying customers for support are companies who outsource desktop maintanance more bugs means more work in that case
[10:31] <white_eagle> !wine | dini
[10:31] <ubotu> dini: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[10:31] <On3> dagon^, i was talking about websites, what were you thinking.... sick minded person!
[10:32] <X-Seti> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[10:32] <dagon^> On3; yeah right! ;)
[10:32] <On3> dagon^, lol
[10:32] <X-Seti> your beable to play any media format
[10:32] <FloodBot3> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[10:32] <On3> FloodBot3, shuddup!
[10:32] <noob-africa> who suggested to me i check out Gimpshop? I have seen the screenshots... it's pretty cool!
[10:33] <rhanthony> vlt: would like to send all tcp traffic.  NEED to send all http (80) through it... and bonus would be IRC traffic as well.  Ideally though, just all TCP... everything.
[10:33] <X-Seti> noop, PC specialists
[10:33] <noob-africa> i guess i can now do graphics on Ubuntu, with Xara Extreme for Linux (vector graphics, with full CMYK support) and image manipulation with Gimpshow
[10:33] <X-Seti> oops sorry
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[10:33] <X-Seti> noob-africa, it cost me a alot and i dont want to say how much
[10:34] <jellyware> greetings from the melbourne australia release party
[10:34] <roffe__> I'm generally NOT a conspiracy-theorist, but I was just wondering. So far I'm more than happy with Ubuntu
[10:34] <CyberCod> man... good thing I didn't try to wait it out!
[10:34] <jellyware> one pic sofar
[10:34] <jellyware> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jellyware/
[10:34] <GIn> what engine does epiphany use to render the html page?
[10:34] <dini> pls someone offer me 3d walkthrough games for ubuntu
[10:34] <hazexp> gecko
[10:34] <Seveas> GIn, gecko
[10:34] <spikeb> gecko by default
[10:34] <DracoZA> is 8.04 Desktop a release version ?
[10:34] <hazexp> they're going to be switching to Webkit soon though (IIRC)
[10:34] <GIn> can you set it to webkit?
[10:34] <Seveas> GIn, but they're switching to webkit
[10:34] <vlt> rhanthony: I'd reccomend using OpenVPN for this task (maybe over ssh, as a friend of mine does from a place where nothing but port 80 and 22 is allowed).
[10:34] <spikeb> for a bit longer anyway. webkit is an alternative, and will be the default
[10:34] <X-Seti> noob-africa, ASusStriker, 1.5T HHD, 8Gig Ram, 2X8800GForce Ultras
[10:34] <Riot777> how do you think if I will upgrade to hardy now, it will be much to update when oficially hardy will go out ?
[10:34] <Seveas> GIn, not yet
[10:35] <noob-africa> DracoZA: there is a desktop and server version, yes
[10:35] <Seveas> Riot777, probably nothing
[10:35] <dini> pls someone offer me 3d walkthrough games for ubuntu
[10:35] <Riot777> kk
[10:35] <X-Seti> noob-africa, Quad Core 3.0Ghz, now clocked to 3.40Ghz
[10:35] <noob-africa> X-Seti: wow! that is a rocker! 1.5T? maaan!
[10:35] <rhanthony> vlt: well, if you can put all tcp over a ssh tunnel, then that should be sufficient.
[10:35] <noob-africa> X-Seti: i am impressed!
[10:35] <roffe__> dini: what's a  "3d walkthrough game"
[10:35] <grimsqueaker13> can anyone assist with vnc, i followed the instructions on http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/11/setting-up-vnc-in-ubuntu-gutsy-gibson.html to set up vnc but now when i connect the vnc viewer seems to recursively connect again until i have a million remote screens open inside each other..... wtf is going onwith this... :)
[10:35] <rhanthony> vlt: my issue is properly getting the tunnel setup, most likely here on the client side (windows putty)...
[10:35] <X-Seti> it does the job
[10:36] <noob-africa> X-Seti: did that go over USD 1K or less?
[10:36] <X-Seti> well over
[10:36] <rhanthony> vlt: the closest I've gotten is having firefox pull up sshd/ubuntu versions when i try to go to www.google.com (or anywhere else).
[10:36] <dini> roffe its nothing but 3d shooting games
[10:36] <noob-africa> X-Seti: have u done any DV editing with ur sys? what software do u recommend?
[10:36] <vlt> rhanthony: The tunnel only forwards one specific port (AFAIK). That could be the problem when tryinf to put all IP traffic through ...
[10:36] <kane77> grimsqueaker13, are you connecting to the same machine?
[10:36] <rhanthony> vlt: then i can make multiple tunnels, not a problem.
[10:37] <rhanthony> vlt: but i can't get even just port 80 to work :(
[10:37] <X-Seti> noob-africa, pm?
[10:37] <roffe__> dini: Ok, walkthrough means a guidance in a game of any kind.... have you tried Enemy territory?
[10:37] <rhanthony> I guess I need someone with putty/ssh-tunnel experience specifically to tell me what i'm doing wrong
[10:37] <grimsqueaker13> yes, i thought that would be possible to test the connection... i did that before in windows
[10:37] <aTheresNoETA> vlt: dynamic forwarding simulates socks5
[10:37] <aTheresNoETA> like ssh -D 1080 remotecomputer
[10:37] <sleepster> what stops someone from making 'make install' do something malicious and destroy my machine?
[10:37] <aTheresNoETA> then use localhost:1080 as socks5
[10:37] <sleepster> it is running with root privilages
[10:37] <spikeb> nothing
[10:38] <zcat[1]> sleepster: nothing...
[10:38] <sleepster> hmm.. interesting
[10:38] <sCOTTo> ok, who here can help me understand the xserver so i can add a monitor and stretch my desktop over two monitors?
[10:38] <aTheresNoETA> sleepster: not a thing, thats why you need to trust people, even if it was wrapped up in 10 tons of tape, they'd still be able to do bad stuff
[10:38] <manoova> sCOTTo: What graphics card do you have?
[10:38] <vlt> rhanthony: `ssh -L 8080:targethost:80 ssh-server` is probably not what you want. But you can setup a proxy or socks proxy and tunnel its traffic.
[10:38] <rhanthony> aTheresNoETA: but... how to properly get putty to do those... is what i think is eluding me :P cause it does not have the same command line as linux ssh clients
[10:38] <sCOTTo> manoova: how do i tell?
[10:38] <zcat[1]> sleepster: so you should be careful what you download ... that's one of many reasons why you should stick to packaged software in the official repos.
[10:39] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: does your putty to dynamic?
[10:39] <sleepster> thanks guys
[10:39] <kane77> grimsqueaker13, so apparently it is working..
[10:39] <sleepster> for the help
[10:39] <aTheresNoETA> Local Dynamic Remote
[10:39] <vlt> rhanthony: Putty can establish the same (multiple) tunnels.
[10:39] <manoova> sCOTTo: dmesg | grep -i nvidia
[10:39] <aTheresNoETA> ^ circleboxes
[10:39] <grimsqueaker13> should it be doing that if i connect to the same machine?
[10:39] <manoova> sCOTTo: That'll tell you if you have an nvidia card
[10:39] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: you probably need the dev version of putty btw
[10:40] <vlt> aTheresNoETA: Can you explain how dynamic ssh tunnels works?
[10:40] <sCOTTo> nope it said nothing
[10:40] <kane77> grimsqueaker13, yep, because it will display what you see.. and you see the vncviewer window
[10:40] <sCOTTo> manoova: nothing
[10:40] <aTheresNoETA> vlt: it uh simulates a socks5 proxy basically
[10:40] <manoova> sCOTTo: substitute Ati for nvidia to see if you have an Ati card
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[10:40] <manoova> sCOTTo: or intel
[10:40] <vlt> aTheresNoETA: aah, ok.
[10:40] <aTheresNoETA> so you connect to the port, tell it where you want to connect, it connects out...
[10:40] <aTheresNoETA> k
[10:40] <sCOTTo> manoova: yup
[10:40] <sCOTTo> manoova: ati
[10:41] <dini> can anyone offer me games that play under ubuntu
[10:41] <aTheresNoETA> lol setserial is a separate package? funny
[10:41] <manoova> sCOTTo: Did you build the PC yourself or is this a Dell/HP/IBM box?
[10:41] <sluimers> hi, where can I ask an eclipse question?
[10:41] <aTheresNoETA> mmmm dell
[10:41] <emj> about 8.04. Is there some way to get an alert when it's ready?
[10:41] <kane77> sluimers, #eclipse probably
[10:41] <zcat[1]> dini: try flightgear, if you like flightsims... or torcs (racecar) or tremulous
[10:41] <dini> can anyone offer me games that play under ubuntu
[10:41] <grimsqueaker13> kane77: oh ok.... thanks
[10:41] <sCOTTo> manoova: Dell INSPIRON E1705
[10:41] <DJones> !games | dini
[10:42] <ubotu> dini: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[10:42] <sluimers> thanks kane77
[10:42] <dagon^> dini; check the wineappdb :)
[10:42] <roffe__> dini: have you tried enemy territory?
[10:42] <Naib> sorted
[10:42] <notsniw> hey
[10:43] <Naib> D0pamine: ? wtd you doing here
[10:43] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: here is a screenshot http://i32.tinypic.com/25jy0wy.png
[10:43] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: they look like that, and I want them to look like they should look in KDE
[10:43] <notsniw> when will 8.04 be released?
[10:43] <dagon^> stop asking
[10:43] <Naib> notsniw: today
[10:43] <notsniw> Naib: i know
[10:43] <notsniw> when :)
[10:43] <Kazjako> Is Mark Shuttleworth here?
[10:43] <rhanthony> why would i need the dev version? everything says this 0.59 should do it.
[10:43] <Naib> notsniw: today
[10:43] <rhanthony> and yes, it does dynamic.
[10:43] <white_eagle> for christs sake, it would come out today
[10:43] <JPSman> what command do I use to determine what modules I have loaded???
[10:43] <sCOTTo> wow i knew a mark shuttleworth once!
[10:43] <manoova> sCOTTo: OK. If it is an Ati card then you should have been offered the opportunity to install Restricted drivers for that card. I'm not 100% sure of that as I don't have an ATi card myself. Anyway, install the restricted drivers and then you should have a program available to created the settings you need.
[10:43] <rhanthony> Just not sure if i'm setting it up right.
[10:44] <micha__> lamos
[10:44] <micha__> lsmod
[10:44] <notsniw> JPSman: lsmod
[10:44] <aTheresNoETA> hmm
[10:44] <sCOTTo> manoova: how do i do that?
[10:44] <sCOTTo> :)
[10:44] <aTheresNoETA> white_eagle: gtk has a .gtkrc, dunno what qt does
[10:44] <JPSman> Thanks notsniw
[10:45] <white_eagle> !appdb | dini
[10:45] <white_eagle> !topic | notsniw
[10:45] <ubotu> dini: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[10:45] <ubotu> notsniw: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:45] <manoova> sCOTTo: Actually, I am reading that Ubuntu 8.04 uses the open-source ATi graphics drivers so you shouldn't need to install the restricted drivers
[10:45] <aTheresNoETA> white_eagle: did you try forums?
[10:45] <emj> white_eagle:  So do you know where you can get a heads up when it is released?
[10:46] <manoova> sCOTTo: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Ubuntu/1097960777/1
[10:46] <aTheresNoETA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32567 I dont know how applicable that is in 2008 ;)
[10:46] <rhanthony> anyone in here have experience with Putty and ssh tunnels?  Need putty specific help
[10:46] <sCOTTo> manoova: so what do i tdo - just check the forum ?
[10:46] <emj> rhanthony:  yes...
[10:46] <aTheresNoETA> emj: when its out 1) the website will reflect it and 2) people wont be asking about it any more
[10:46] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:46] <emj> rhanthony: But I don't have it running atm..
[10:46] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:46] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:46] <rhanthony> emj: have you setup ssh tunnels through putty before?
[10:46] <emj> rhanthony: several times
[10:46] <rhanthony> emj: ... to an sshd server?
[10:46] <aTheresNoETA> rhanthony: does your putty have the dynamic option for forwards?
[10:47] <emj> rhanthony: ask the questions..
[10:47] <rhanthony> aTheresNoETA: yes.... but i'm not sure if i'm setting it up right.
[10:47] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:47] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:47] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:47] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:47] <dini> i need a full version games for ubuntu
[10:47] <sCOTTo> manoova: how do i find out what version i have ?
[10:47] <FloodBot3> dini: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <issa_> Hi guys, how can I know free and used space in my system?
[10:47] <sCOTTo> dini: that is flooding... you will get kicked out for that
[10:47] <issa_> by command line
[10:47] <aTheresNoETA> issa_: df -h
[10:47] <unop> issa_,  df -T
[10:47] <dagon^> issa_; df -h
[10:48] <aTheresNoETA> T?
[10:48] <manoova> sCOTTo: you mean version of Ubuntu? Try uname -r
[10:48] <unop> man df
[10:48] <rhanthony> emj: i have my server running sshd (ssh'd to it right now), and using putty as my client on this xp laptop.  i want to setup an ssh tunnel to carry all web traffic through my sshd server to the outside net.
[10:48] <sCOTTo> thanks
[10:48] <dini> im sorry my key board got strucked
[10:48] <issa_> thanks
[10:48] <dini> sorry to everyone
[10:48] <rhanthony> emj: how would i set that up in the putty config screens?
[10:48]  * emj rhanthony:  
[10:48] <dini> ok anyone offer me full version games
[10:48] <dini> pls
[10:49] <zaputr> Does anybody configure connection with internet over GPRS(Mobile) over Bluetooth?
[10:49] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: no
[10:49] <sCOTTo> manoova: 2.6.22-14-generic is all that came up
[10:49] <white_eagle> aTheresNoETA: I will
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[10:49] <rhanthony> emj: ?
[10:49] <manoova> sCOTTo: I think you are on Ubuntu 7.10
[10:49] <wubrgamer> dini:  STFU pls!  we don't file-trade in here
[10:49] <sCOTTo> how do i update it ?
[10:49] <macchiea> ubuntu releases are the only thing I look forward to in life
[10:49] <thepld> dini: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_gaming there you go, unless you want warez, in which case GTFO
[10:49] <Seveas> macchiea, sad :)
[10:49] <emj> rhanthony: booting girlfirends old Windows ME laptop.. :-) can take awhile..
[10:50] <sCOTTo> manoova: how do i update it ?
[10:50] <rhanthony> emj: i know your pain.  thanks for helping btw.  this has been frustrating the shite out of me for like 4 hours now
[10:50]  * thepld sends his condolences to emj.
[10:50] <wolfric> can someone help me with changing over to kde instead of gnome?
[10:50] <TB`> So when is this new Ubuntu gonna be released?
[10:50] <Deets> what is the record number of people in this #?
[10:50] <Naib> TB`: today
[10:51] <unop> wolfric, it should be as simple as installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[10:51] <rhanthony> TB`: /topic
[10:51] <TB`> Oh ty
[10:51] <wolfric> ive installed "KDE" from snaptic package manager and i have all the kde apps in my program list but it hasnt switched over
[10:51] <manoova> sCOTTo: Upgrading - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-378718bf27e85b8e05c7a5966125eb194b5f26bb
[10:51] <TB`> What time?
[10:51] <Seveas> Deets, not sure, but we'll break it today :)
[10:51] <stdin> wobblywu: you have to choose kde from the login menu
[10:51] <unop> wolfric, you need to choose a KDE session at the logon screen
[10:51] <mrkeishii> when is it comming out???? I just went to sleep for 4 hours and it still did not come out?
[10:51] <sCOTTo> manoova: thanks :)
[10:51] <wolfric> thanks ill give it a look
[10:52] <dagon^> mrkeishii; chill dude
[10:52] <freep> hey
[10:52] <mrkeishii> can't
[10:52] <TB`> Any Vista support people in here?
[10:52] <mrkeishii> i waited till 1 in the morning
[10:52] <Seveas> TB`, ##windows
[10:53] <sgbirch> TB`: What is Vista?
[10:53] <mrkeishii> and slept for 3-4 hours and it is not out yet?????
[10:53] <emj> rhanthony: so a couple of questions.. 1. by sshd do you mean ssh.com version (I know nothing about that)  2.  I do this with ssh -D port on linux but that isn't available on in putty (AFAIK when I tested it in 2005)
[10:53] <TB`> No clue
[10:53] <ceil420> hurr
[10:53] <TB`> Don't ya just love the word "boolean"?
[10:53] <emj> rhanthony: Otherwise I think you have to use SSH + proxy on your server
[10:53] <emj> rhanthony: But I might be wrong?
[10:54] <spaceninja> vista is the best OS mankind has ever produced
[10:54] <sleepster> what's the most advanced linux antivirus program?
[10:54] <dagon^> hoho
[10:54] <rhanthony> emj: I can get putty to do dynamic ssh
[10:54] <rhanthony> emj: thats in there.  I'm using the sshd that installs with ubuntu...
[10:54] <dagon^> sleepster; avg is good, dunno if it's that advanced though
[10:54] <ceil420> there's a linux antivirus program?
[10:54] <rhanthony> emj: openssh i think.
[10:54] <dagon^> ceil420; avg
[10:54] <manoova> sCOTTo: That'll upgrade the Ubuntu from 7.10 to Ubuntu 8.04 when it is out later today. However, a less drastic measure is to install the restricted drivers for Ubuntu 7.10. Click on "System" near the top left hand side of the screen and look through the menu options there for restricted drivers. See what comes up.
[10:54] <emj> rhanthony: Yes I know, as far as I know it can'..
[10:54] <rhanthony> emj: and my putty will take command line.
[10:55] <thefish> ceil420, there are a few - antivir, clamav, sophos, kaspersky - google it :)
[10:55] <sgbirch> spaceninja: It must be a Linux distro then
[10:55] <swilky> 99% of viruses would be made for microsoft
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[10:55] <sCOTTo> manoova: will i want the latest yet?
[10:55] <unop> !virus
[10:55] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:55] <swilky> so i sont see a point in having one
[10:55] <mrkeishii> ...
[10:55] <sleepster> is clamav better?
[10:55] <mrkeishii> bored again
[10:55] <swilky> lol like i said
[10:55] <manoova> sCOTTo: Depends, have you just installed Ubuntu for the first time?
[10:55] <emj> rhanthony: ups the new versions seem to do this..
[10:55] <unop> sleepster, there really is littled need for an antivirus program on a linux desktop
[10:55] <Seveas> mrkeishii, /join #ubuntu-release-party :)
[10:56] <sCOTTo> manoova: nah i got a bit of experience.... spose i might just upgrade later :)
[10:56] <kennethr> hee hee....nice topic...glad you put it on there(don't know exact time)
[10:56] <sCOTTo> manoova: where do i get these restricted drivers etc?
[10:56] <Seveas> kennethr, woah
[10:57] <Seveas> you are the FIRST today to actually read it!
[10:57] <Toznoshio> an antivirus program is good if you want to scan your other partition
[10:57]  * Seveas praises kennethr 
[10:57]  * kennethr blushes
[10:57] <manoova> sCOTTo: For your existing installation take a look at this page which describes installing the ATi driver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI. The site is down at the moment for me. I guess the http server is experiencing massive load with people trying to see if the latest release is out.
[10:57] <kennethr> thanks
[10:57] <dini> hey i got a file name hg2-demo.run pls anyone can tell me how to run this file
[10:57] <rhanthony> emj: i guess i just dont understand where everything in putty is supposed to be defined.
[10:57] <kennethr> So when exactly does ubuntu 8.04 hit the fan?
[10:57] <kennethr> ;)
[10:57]  * kennethr chuckles
[10:57] <kennethr> sorry
[10:57] <spq> isnt this 8.04 already released?
[10:57] <rhanthony> emj: and most people use linux command line so it's not exactly helpful :) hehehe
[10:57] <dini> hey i got a file name hg2-demo.run pls anyone can tell me how to run this file
[10:57] <kennethr> I couldn't hold back
[10:58] <emj> rhanthony: True for me too.. ;-)
[10:58] <micha__> dini: source hg2-...
[10:58] <micha__> on the shell
[10:58] <rhanthony> emj: did you ever setup a ssh tunnel with putty in the past?
[10:58] <emj> rhanthony: Yes but not proxy..
[10:58] <spaceninja> When will we know the release time?
[10:58] <kirkor> hello, do You know when ubuntu 8.04 will be able to download??
[10:58] <micha__> spaceninja: when its out
[10:58] <kennethr> kirkor: please see the topic
[10:58] <Orbixx> The website says Ubuntu is released.
[10:58] <manoova> sCOTTo: If you have the time I would suggest upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04. It has long term support so is a good choice. I am assuming you have not done lots of configuring of your existing installation. If you haven't I would suggest backing up an documents you might have saved, bookmarks, etc and do a clean install with 8.04 when it is out
[10:58] <kennethr> spaceplease see the toic
[10:58] <virdiq> sleepster: you don't need anti-virus software... even on Windows
[10:58] <rhanthony> emj: you mean to ssh browse the same server the ssh tunnel went to, and only that one?
[10:59] <emj> you know you guys are so helpfull with the release dte
[10:59] <kennethr> see /topic
[10:59] <spaceninja> what I meant was
[10:59] <virdiq> sleepster: the idea is that you shouldn't execute any files that aren't from a trusted source (or haven't been signed/authenticated)
[10:59] <kirkor> nice topic ;)
[10:59] <sgbirch> Orbixx: That is in the press room, it is misleading
[10:59] <kirkor> thx
[10:59] <spaceninja> we are all waiting for the release, but when will we know when we will know the release?
[10:59] <sCOTTo> manoova: is there something that will backup all my files and settings for me to do a clean install?
[10:59] <spaceninja> time
[10:59] <sCOTTo> spaceninja: classic nick :) love it!
[10:59] <kennethr> spaceninja: see /topic
[11:00] <Toznoshio> virdiq: keygens will never be authenticated
[11:00] <spaceninja> :)
[11:00] <sCOTTo> d000d... its ont eh site now....
[11:00] <emj> rhanthony: Yes that's the only think I have done with Putty.. But the proxy panel seems åromising..
[11:00] <ceil420> what's the update-manager switch for distro? -d?
[11:00] <yahooshua> can't play DvDs with Gutsy. Help?
[11:00] <dagon^> yahooshua; did you try VLC?
[11:00] <sgbirch> Who actually pulls the bif red lever and makes the release happen?
[11:00] <rhanthony> emj: but to do proxy stuff, do i need addtional software setup on the server end?
[11:00] <emj> rhanthony: do you have the connection -> proxy thingy..
[11:00] <virdiq> Toznoshio: you could always run it with low permissions or better yet, run it in a "sandbox"
[11:00] <geoaxis> Gutsy ..who said Gutsy
[11:00] <yahooshua> no not yet
[11:00] <geoaxis> its Hardy time baaby
[11:01]  * sCOTTo is downloading the new ubuntu at 500 kps
[11:01] <sCOTTo> :)
[11:01] <yahooshua> dagon: should do it?
[11:01] <rhanthony> emj: because every single thread and how-to says you ONLY need sshd running on the server... which i'm really doubtful of now.
[11:01] <emj> rhanthony:  Aaah... yes... it would seems so..
[11:01] <dagon^> yahooshua; yup
[11:01] <geoaxis> sCOTTo: when will be the full reelase (ETA)?
[11:01] <sCOTTo> manoova: is there a way i can just update?
[11:01] <ceil420> i'm only updating to Hardy because i'm hoping it'll let me update libconfuse so i can install awesome wm ;x
[11:01] <sCOTTo> dunno
[11:01] <tim__b> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/dvd/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[11:01] <tim__b> :)
[11:01] <yahooshua> dagon: wow. thanx
[11:01] <sCOTTo> geoaxis: i know nothing... looks like :)
[11:01] <dagon^> yahooshua; don't mention it
[11:01] <manoova> sCOTTo: This may help wrt backup http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=637
[11:02] <yahooshua> Dagon: that was to easy I want a refund hahaha
[11:02] <rhanthony> okay
[11:02] <emj> rhanthony:  ok in my putty I only have remote and local  under the Connection -> ssh -> Tunnels
[11:02] <emj> rhanthony: Do you have  dynamic as well?
[11:02] <sCOTTo> manoova: is there a way to just upgrade? i would rather that
[11:02] <rhanthony> so now I need to find good proxy software then...
[11:02] <rhanthony> I have dynamic, yes.
[11:02] <Nevstah> hiya, anyone able to tell me why 'apt-get upgrade' shows my system uptodate, yet gui update manager shows 6 updates available?
[11:02] <rhanthony> emj: if you download the latest (0.59) it has dynamic
[11:02] <emj> rhanthony:  have you read: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.60/htmldoc/Chapter3.html#using-port-forwarding
[11:02] <aTheresNoETA> Nevstah: did you just update? if so thats why ;)
[11:02] <ceil420> sCOTTo, update-manager -d
[11:02] <rhanthony> emj: first time seeing that link, let me go absorb.
[11:02] <XB23> guys any good software that could syncronize 2 folders on different machines so both have exactly the same files?
[11:02] <emj> rhanthony: WinME laptop is a dailup laptop, and I have no phone.. ;-)
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[11:02] <sCOTTo> ceil420: ok...
[11:02] <yahooshua> rhanthony: what are you trying to do?
[11:03] <aTheresNoETA> XB23: rsync? unison?
[11:03] <Nevstah> no i didnt update to 8.04
[11:03] <emj> yahooshua:  dynamic portforward in windows
[11:03] <manoova> sCOTTo: Yes, there is a way. The synaptic package manager should inform you that there is a new Ubuntu release available. I have only tried this method once and it didn't work so well for me. It may work fine for you. I strongly recommend backing up important files
[11:03] <yahooshua> emj: oh I see
[11:03] <ceil420> sCOTTo, "-d, --devel-release   Check if upgrading to the latest devel release is possible"
[11:03] <ceil420> Hardy is still a 'devel release'
[11:03] <yahooshua> thought it was the same as what I want to do... surf from work
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[11:04] <sCOTTo> ceil420: manoova -- = Welcome to Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy Heron' = that one the newest?
[11:04]  * manoova awaits delivery of an IBM x3850: 4 x quad core CPUs + 64 Gb RAM :-)
[11:04] <micha__> sCOTTo: If you have your own home partition, just backup /etc and maybe /opt, everything else you can throw out
[11:04] <rhanthony> yahooshua: trying to get my windows laptop, to surf the web, via ssh tunnel to my ubuntu server at home.
[11:04] <ceil420> if this were tomorrow, you'd (probably) have to use --dist-upgrade
[11:04] <ceil420> sCOTTo, yes
[11:04] <sCOTTo> ok
[11:04] <manoova> Scott
[11:04]  * wubrgamer is away: I'm Away, Send me a PM
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[11:04] <sCOTTo> manoova: yes?
[11:04] <yahooshua> rhanthony: so it is the same as what I want to do... surf from work
[11:04] <ghosTM55> hi all , anybody here ever used google app ?
[11:04] <mrkeishii> when is it comming
[11:04] <Seveas> wubrgamer, please switch of those automatic messages
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[11:04] <Seveas> that *is* policy and will get you kicked ;)
[11:04] <myfKnight> can i just do apt-get upgrade when hardy comes, instead of using the synaptic update manager?
[11:04] <manoova> sCOTTo: Ubuntu 8.04 will be the latest version when it is released later today
[11:04] <mrkeishii> who me?
[11:05] <rhanthony> yahooshua: yes, in essence it's that same thing.  i want it for other reasons :) but thats the goal I'm going for.  encrypted surfing from behind a snoopy admin's network.
[11:05] <sCOTTo> manoova: why is it offering it to me now then?
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[11:05] <emj> rhanthony: Ah but then it's easy.. Just install tinyproxy
[11:05] <emj> rhanthony:  And do a portforward to that port
[11:05] <ceil420> sCOTTo, it's a release candidate. but it probably won't change for official release. Feisty Fawn didn't.
[11:05] <rhanthony> emj: tinyproxy?  but can i then ssh tunnel to the proxy port?
[11:05] <ghosTM55> hi all , anybody here ever used google app ? i don't know how to setup the POP account in thunderbird , it's different from gmail
[11:05] <Orbixx> Does anyone know if updating could potentially cause problems?
[11:05] <ceil420> (i didn't download Gutsy until a month or three after it's release)
[11:05] <emj> rhanthony: try
[11:05] <sCOTTo> ceil420: what does that mean to me ?
[11:05] <rhanthony> Whats a good proxy package folks?
[11:06] <emj> rhanthony: add a forward for you ssh port
[11:06] <sCOTTo> ceil420: me is a bit thick :)
[11:06] <manoova> sCOTTo: Is it? That's interesting.
[11:06] <rhanthony> emj: about to ;) lol
[11:06] <emj> rhanthony:  and try to connect to that
[11:06] <rhanthony> emj: what do you mean forward for my ssh port? i'm ssh'd in right now.
[11:06] <sCOTTo> manoova: = Welcome to Ubuntu 8.04 'Hardy Heron' = is what it says to me right now....
[11:06] <yahooshua> rhanthony: http://www.buzzsurf.com/surfatwork/
[11:06] <ceil420> sCOTTo, "Release Candidate" is something they release before they put out the final version. But it may in fact be the exact same as the 'final version'.
[11:06] <manoova> sCOTTo: I suppose you can upgrade now then
[11:06] <yahooshua> rhanthony:
[11:06] <ceil420> sCOTTo, even if it's not, you can just update as normal after the final version is released
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[11:06] <sCOTTo> ceil420: cool thanks
[11:06] <ceil420> np
[11:06] <Nevstah> is apt-get update/upgrade the best way to get all updates? via terminal
[11:07] <sCOTTo> manoova: cheers - youve been helpful - i will go backup now :)
[11:07] <ceil420> Nevstah, t's how i do it
[11:07] <manoova> sCOTTo: No problem :-)
[11:07] <yahooshua> rhanthony: that is what I was trying to do but I am having trouble converting the windows stuff into linux stuff
[11:07] <emj> rhanthony: Do this you local machine -> ssh (forward local port 2222 to remote port 22) -> remote machine  then putty and connect to localhost:22
[11:07] <rhanthony> Nevstah: yes, apt-get is your god.
[11:07] <Nevstah> heh thanks :P
[11:07] <swilky> apt-get update GOD
[11:07] <leonbrussels> if I use update-manager --devel-release now, am I gonna get the final?
[11:08] <rhanthony> emj: if i forward port 2222 from the laptop, to port 22 on the server... why would ssh'ing to localhost (laptop), port 22, help at all?  i dont get that.
[11:08] <truffaut> BuFF: DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM THE POOL
[11:08] <ceil420> leonbrussels, most likely. Feisty Fawn's RC from a day or two before the final release was "final"
[11:08] <myfKnight> can i just do apt-get upgrade when hardy comes, instead of using the synaptic update manager?
[11:08] <Naib> myfKnight: yes
[11:08] <kennethr> legit question => WHENEVER Hardy hits, how do I upgrade my already running Hardy beta system to the official release(sans CD)
[11:08] <emj> rhanthony: see if it works..
[11:08] <rhanthony> myfKnight: yes.
[11:08] <myfKnight> thanks
[11:08] <emj> rhanthony: Since It should work it's a small step..
[11:08] <rhanthony> emj: holdon.
[11:09] <Seveas> kennethr, apt-get upgrade :)
[11:09] <leonbrussels> myfKnight sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:09] <leonbrussels> dont forget sudo apt-get update before
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[11:09] <bid3> hi all
[11:09] <bid3> can someone help me with an proftpd issue ?
[11:09] <myfKnight> leonbrussels> dist-upgrade instead of upgrade?
[11:09] <Nevstah> am currently on 6.06LTS server, is it advisable to upgrade to 8.04LTS server when its finally released?
[11:09] <kennethr> Seveas: just that....nothing special?  and it's 'apt-get upgrade', not 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[11:10] <Seveas> kennethr, or just click the 'there are updates avaialable' icon :)
[11:10] <rhanthony> emj: didn't work...
[11:10] <rhanthony> emj: i think it's how the tunnel is being set in putty.
[11:10] <leonbrussels> myfKnight: yeah, dist-upgrade, upgrade just brings you to the latest gutsy packages, dist-upgrade gets the new software channels and stuff
[11:10] <rhanthony> emj: putting source port as 2222, destination as the server...
[11:11] <yahooshua> rhanthony: what are you using as server?
[11:11] <kennethr> smooth...I like
[11:11] <emj> rhanthony:  source port 2222 destination localhost:22 (I think=
[11:11] <sjovan> some one here that can help me merg two small scripts togheter to one document? the onely difference is that one of the scripts, search and does the commands on every file of a spesific type and the other just do the commands on input-file.
[11:11] <rhanthony> emj: k, brb
[11:11] <fserve> hey
[11:11] <rhanthony> emj: then i should be able to ssh to to localhost, and really get my server, correct?
[11:11] <Naib> sjovan: #friendly-coders is the best place for that
[11:11] <emj> rhanthony: jupp
[11:11] <emj> rhanthony: yes.. ;-
[11:11] <fserve> my ubuntu is at 1600x1050 but my res is 1440x900 how to change it in GDM screen?
[11:12] <sjovan> Naib: thanx for that :)
[11:12] <rhanthony> yahooshua: unbuntu 7.10 and openssh.
[11:12] <rhanthony> emj: brb
[11:12] <yahooshua> rhanthony and your doing port forwarding with your router?
[11:13] <unop> sjovan, why can't you merge the two/
[11:13] <unop> ?
[11:13] <laeg> has anyone experienced firestarter being a bit buggy opening and closing ports at random?
[11:13] <tapazukk> Âñåì ïðèâåò, 8-ÿ áóäåò òîæå îðàíæåâåüêîé?
[11:13] <sjovan> unop: i don't know how i could to it :) it's as simple as that. just need some help in the right direction
[11:13] <rhanthony> emj: ssh to localhost:2222 just opens a window, doesnt fail, but doesnt connect.
[11:14] <emj> yahooshua: ? he is doinf  Windows  (putty ssh) -> internet -> home (Linux openssh)
[11:14] <rhanthony> yahooshua: yes i can get to 22 on my server, i'm using it right now to use bitchx to talk here :)
[11:14] <emj> rhanthony: Firewall on windows?
[11:14] <ceil420> xchat > irssi > bitchx
[11:14] <Sturmeh> :O
[11:14] <unop> sjovan, well, if both files are just commands .. then you can just put all the commands from both files into one file .. and it'll work the same :)
[11:14] <mrkeishii> ...
[11:14] <laeg> irssi > xchat
[11:14] <Sturmeh> mirc > *
[11:14] <rhanthony> emj: no, cause i can ssh out no problem direct
[11:15] <IntangibleLiquid> how many hours left?
[11:15] <ceil420> laeg, not for 7 servers and 40+ channels <_<
[11:15] <emj> telnet FTW
[11:15] <unop> sjovan, but use the !pastebin (don't paste in here) and show us what you have
[11:15] <sjovan> unop: of course not :)
[11:15] <bid3> how can i setup ProFTPd to use UTF8 ?
[11:15] <unop> sjovan, have to make sure :)
[11:15] <rhanthony> emj: wait, maybe norton caught it, brb
[11:15] <yahooshua> rhanthony: have used any websites to get you started? if so like to know which so I can get mine up and going
[11:16] <emj> I hate windows and firewalls..
[11:16] <laeg> ceil420: and you really need to be on 7 servers in 40 channels? :)
[11:16] <sCOTTo> manoova: hey - i am upgrading now... to LTS version whatever that means :)
[11:16] <ceil420> laeg, of course :)
[11:16] <Nevstah> what does it mean in real terms when apt-get has 'kept back' certain packages from being upgraded?
[11:16] <sCOTTo> lots of downloading....
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[11:16] <ceil420> i've been on IRC ~8 years; i have friends all over the place :p
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[11:16] <rhanthony> yahooshua: to get started with what? what part of this?  I have yet to find a site that actually helped with my ssh tunnel issues :)
[11:16] <Seveas> Nevstah, that those update need other packages to be installed or removed. Use apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:17] <gorilla> Hi All, the Melbourne Ubuntu release party is rocking.. about 20 has turned up.
[11:17] <Ramattack> Hi!!
[11:17] <Fyl0n> it's sad when I post a MD5SUM that I get BANNED @ ubuntu-release-party
[11:17] <Fyl0n> it's just SAD.. reminds me of a Redmond company... :(
[11:17] <mrkeishii> ahhh
[11:17] <Ramattack> how could I fix the dns and avoid them to be updated or refreshed in resolv.conf?
[11:17] <mrkeishii> 42
[11:17] <emj> ceil420: is that 7 networks or 7 servers?
[11:17] <mrkeishii> lol
[11:17] <ceil420> emj, networks
[11:17] <yahooshua> rhanthony: neither have I. except that site I just sent out a minute ago. got me pointed in the right direction
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[11:17] <Ramattack> I have static ip set
[11:18] <ceil420> i shoulda got this RC sooner. speeds are slooow :(
[11:18] <gnuskool> i thought hardy was available for download today, whay gives?
[11:18] <Nevstah> Seveas: ok, i dont want to upgrade straight away, i use the server for my emails n stuff,, i dont want to break it right now lol
[11:18] <ceil420> gnuskool, day ain't over yet
[11:18] <KyleK> Fyl0n: microsoft doesn't have an IRC channel, that was actually a channel for pirates
[11:18] <vlt> ceil420: There're many torrent seeds.
[11:18] <Sturmeh> lol
[11:18] <Fyl0n> KyleK: lol
[11:18] <rhanthony> yahooshua: well, i'm trying to get it done, i know it can be.  seen it done.
[11:18] <cousin_luigi> hi
[11:18] <emj> ceil420: That's more than I've connected to in my whole life and I IRC.ed the firs time in 95-96
[11:18] <Fyl0n> But WHY do I get banned for such a STUPID thing
[11:18] <ceil420> vlt, i'm getting it through upgrade-manager
[11:19] <yahooshua> rhanthony: the site mentions using port 443 instead of 22
[11:19] <vlt> ceil420: Aah, ok.
[11:19] <ceil420> well, tried to ;x error at second step
[11:19] <cousin_luigi> any news about the official release time?
[11:19] <KyleK> Fyl0n: dont want people hitting the master server to download stuffs
[11:19] <ceil420> cousin_luigi, read the topic
[11:19] <gnuskool> Ramattack: there is a way , cant explain bt if you search ubuntuforums for resolve.conf or similiar it'll come up, i fixed mine there
[11:19] <ICQnumber> !topic
[11:19] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[11:19] <Fyl0n> can someone UNBAN me @ ubuntu-relaease-party?
[11:19] <rhanthony> yahooshua: to make it look like SSL web connection, not an ssh tunnel.  havent even gotten to that point yet.  still trying to just make the tunnel :) i'll hid it later.
[11:19] <yahooshua> rhanthony: "In most cases your employer will block almost all outgoig network ports except for port 80 and port 443"
[11:20] <Ramattack> gnuskool, was editing the dhcp client or something like that?
[11:20] <ICQnumber> !topic | cousin_luigi
[11:20] <ubotu> cousin_luigi: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[11:20] <yahooshua> rhanthony: what client are you using? putt?
[11:20] <youtux> ehy hardy
[11:20] <Fyl0n> ya know THIS IS F*CKING STUPID
[11:21] <gnuskool> Ramattack: no none like that, there is w ay to stop resolve.conf rewriting a file, if i remember , i put in my dns and locked the file to avoid it being rewritten
[11:21] <yahooshua> *putty
[11:21] <ceil420> Fyl0n, now you're gonna get banned from #ubuntu. nice one
[11:21] <youtux> why isn't hardy already exit?
[11:21] <KyleK> it doesn't want to
[11:21] <KyleK> thats why ;)
[11:21] <ceil420> A unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[11:21] <a> hi
[11:21] <ceil420> * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[11:21] <ceil420> -_-
[11:21] <MrKeishii> when will it come
[11:22] <Ramattack> gnuskool, so you did some like chmod 444 resolv.conf
[11:22] <youtux> and why servers are so busy?
[11:22] <Ramattack> ?
[11:22] <On3> ... lol
[11:22] <Ekips> We eagerly await the release of Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, due thu. april 24 2008 | The release gets delayed by 2 hours each time someone asks when it's out
[11:22] <On3> GOT IT
[11:22] <KyleK> MrKeishii: before friday
[11:22] <On3> I HAVE 8.04!
[11:22]  * Ekips yawns
[11:22] <ceil420> i just wanted to get it while i was at work :(
[11:22] <MrKeishii> like today
[11:22] <MrKeishii> but when
[11:22] <a> want to know about 51-local.conf and 51-language* somethings
[11:22] <Ekips> You have a pre-release,On3
[11:22] <earthian> Hello, my game in dosemu asks me for cdrom while it is in the drive. any idea how to fix this? Also maybe somebody know where is the dosemu support chan?
[11:22] <gordslater> nice one ekips
[11:22] <a> who can chat with me about it
[11:22] <On3> Ekips, the one that was released to dev's about 30 minutes ago?
[11:22] <gnuskool> Ramattack: look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145449&page=2
[11:22] <cousin_luigi> ceil420: FAQ is empty
[11:22] <On3> Ekips, being an ubuntu developer has its major ups :p
[11:22] <Ekips> Still an RC, as it's no official release? :P
[11:22] <cousin_luigi> ceil420: that's why I was asking:)
[11:23] <Ramattack> thanks a lot gnuskool
[11:23] <rhanthony> yahooshua: i use the putty config (.bat method) they put in that page, opens the ssh window, never asks for uname or pass :( just sits black
[11:23] <On3> Ekips, nope full, just burning it now
[11:23] <Ianian> hello everybody
[11:23] <Ekips> Point being? :)
[11:23] <Naib> Ianian: no it aint out yet
[11:23] <On3> Ekips, that i almost just splurged myself :p
[11:23] <yahooshua> rhanthony: at least you got that far. mine wouldn't even connect
[11:23] <Ianian> naib: what ain't out yet?
[11:23] <Ekips> For something you developed on yourself?
[11:24] <Ekips> What's the difference with latest SVN? :p
[11:24] <rhanthony> yahooshua: wait, got it working... hold on.
[11:24] <laeg> has anyone had issue with firestarter not opening ports?
[11:24] <sdakak> Is the channel logged?
[11:24] <rhanthony> might have it
[11:24] <laeg> sdakak: yes
[11:24] <DJones> !logs
[11:24] <ubotu> Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[11:24] <rami_> I need help with ipod touch and gtkpod...I am using this guide http://lance-systems.com/wiki/sync-ipod-touch-with-linux I seem to fail on the GUID section
[11:24] <TB`> Has it been released yet
[11:24] <TB`> ?
[11:24] <sdakak> laeg: is the log indexed by google then?
[11:24] <Naib> TB`: what do you think...
[11:25] <TB`> Naib - tbh I blame Jihad
[11:25] <Naib> TB`: the topic will be updated when it is
[11:25] <Ekips> Yes, but you need to answer 3 questions before you can get it
[11:25] <gnuskool> Ramattack: check here too http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/613635.html
[11:25] <MrKeishii> i'm going back to sleep again...
[11:25] <MrKeishii> Still WAITING
[11:25] <TB`> Thanks Naib
[11:25] <Ekips> One of them is about your favorite colour, very dangerous
[11:25] <laeg> sdakak: no idea
[11:25] <TB`> I'll ask again in a few mins
[11:25] <On3> Ekips, lol, yea i helped with extremely small stuff, i dont get a full image until later lol
[11:25] <sgbirch> can somebody tell me, what is the best text to speech encoder in Ubuntu?
[11:25] <laeg> sdakak: i'd imagine so
[11:25] <Ramattack> gnuskool, thanks very very very much mate :) :)
[11:25] <Ekips> A full image?
[11:25] <linduxed> anyone feeling like complaining unnecessarily about it being released?
[11:25] <Naib> OMG do ppls life just revolve around the release o.O
[11:25] <Ianian> gonna ask if it is possible to run an winxp(which is actually installed on my hard drive) in ubuntu using virtualbox?
[11:25] <Ramattack> gnuskool, gonna see if we fix the problem :)
[11:25] <linduxed> im in for it
[11:25] <Ekips> There are half releases now?
[11:25] <Ekips> Amazing!
[11:26] <ironic_isnt_it> im using ubuntu 7.10 and xchat is my irc client. when connecting im getting couldnt lookup your hostname and no identd (auth) response. was told to forward port 113 and install oidentd. still getting those messages tho. anyone can help?
[11:26] <Ekips> Ianian: Emulating XP should work
[11:26] <KyleK> next up, quarter releases
[11:26] <linduxed> *it NOT being released
[11:26] <gnuskool> Ramattack: here is the final answer on it, this bugged me too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267868
[11:26] <On3> Ekips, as in, i dont anything except a pat on the back until the whole thing is finished and they release to the devs as a whole
[11:26] <sdakak> laeg: It never appears in the results. I guess there are too many things being discussed here.
[11:26] <Ekips> Hm, I'm gonna find some food
[11:26] <Ekips> bbl
[11:26] <Ramattack> gnuskool, very nice mate :)
[11:26] <On3> Eikps, lol
[11:26] <On3> Ekips, laterz
[11:26] <Ramattack> gonna do all this checks
[11:26] <gnuskool> Ramattack: no worries
[11:26] <Ramattack> see u mates :) :)
[11:26] <Schypher_> where can i locate wpa_supplicant config?
[11:26] <Ramattack> bye!!!
[11:27] <yahooshua> rhanthony: did you get it?
[11:27] <kennethr> I have a pretty old file server on my network (466Mhz celeron - 256MB).  Currently I'm running Fedora w/out any X stuff...is there an easy way to get a similar setup from ubuntu?
[11:27] <Ianian> ekips: im talking of actual install and not virtual drive
[11:27] <rhanthony> no
[11:27] <rhanthony> i can open the ssh tunnel with the putty command
[11:27] <rhanthony> but
[11:27] <rhanthony> can't get firefox to go over it
[11:27] <Ianian> i have a winxp install already and im on dual boot
[11:27] <kennethr> super light weight?
[11:27] <leonbrussels> rhanthony: I had that too
[11:27] <rhanthony> if i set firefox's proxy to localhost:8080, it just gives blanks for any page i try to bring up.
[11:27] <ironic_isnt_it> hatebred was helping me but had to leave. these are my conversations with him public http://rafb.net/p/sAwdvB22.html private http://rafb.net/p/fdICUv78.html
[11:27] <yahooshua> rhanthony: I think you have to set firefox to 127.0.0.1 or something like that
[11:27] <rhanthony> if i dont set the proxy, it browses, but direct, not through the ssh tunnel.
[11:28] <Ianian> just want to run the actual installation on ubuntu so i wont boot to xp
[11:28] <earthian> kennethr, you can remove the GUI or install the other ubuntu cd image that does not have gui
[11:28] <yahooshua> and port 8080
[11:28] <leonbrussels> rhanthony: use 127.0.0.1 istead of localhost everywhere
[11:28] <kennethr> earthian: which cd doesn't have a GUI?
[11:28] <Ianian> as far as i know installing it in a virtual drive is so slow
[11:28] <Ianian> i need xp for autocad :)
[11:28] <upt1me> kenneth: server
[11:28] <rhanthony> leonbrussels: used 127.0.0.1 ... still no work.
[11:28] <TB`> So how much does the new version of Ubuntu cost?
[11:28] <cousin_luigi> Ianian: it will be deadly slow
[11:28] <Ianian> but i dont want my windows, I Want It it ubuntu
[11:29] <johnsearle> This the official release? : http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[11:29] <Naib> Ianian: use virtualbox and install xp:autocad in that
[11:29] <ceil420> TB`, as much as all the old versions COMBINED
[11:29] <emj> rhanthony: You still haven't proven that you can connect to putty on your localhost?
[11:29] <johnsearle> Doesn't have RC beside it...
[11:29] <linduxed> johnsearle: i wouldnt count on it
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[11:29] <arcsky> If i want to remove lets say apache2, then i do apt-get --purge remove apach2 . But why doesnt /etc/apache2 get delted and other files like /etc/init.d/apache2 ?
[11:29] <timfrost> kennethr: ubuntu server doesn't have a GUI
[11:29] <linduxed> johnsearle: earlier they had that link going to the RC
[11:29] <TB`> No seriously is it like $180 - how does it compare to Vista?
[11:29] <emj> rhanthony: check that the Browser -> putty connection works first..
[11:29] <sgbirch> TB`, There is no charge for Ubuntu
[11:29] <earthian> kennethr, not sure now.. there were 3 cd the past time i checked.. now i see two. probably the server edition!
[11:29] <rhanthony> emj: trying to.
[11:29] <TB`> And doesn't it come with free beer?
[11:30] <ironic_isnt_it> so anyone can help?
[11:30] <virdiq> TB`: $999 with a free online $999 rebate (this is worked out before purchase so the actual purchase price is $0)
[11:30] <ceil420> TB`, it's free. Same as most distros
[11:30] <TB`> Oh right
[11:30] <Ianian> cousin_luigi: is it both slow virtual install and actual install ?
[11:30] <TB`> Has it been released yet?
[11:30] <gordslater> TB`: ububntu is free/gratis/as in beer
[11:30] <sgbirch> TB`, It doesnt compare to Vista, they are different animals completely
[11:30] <thoreauputic> TB`: yes - free pizza is extra
[11:30] <KyleK> TB`: pay someone in beer to install it :)
[11:30] <TB`> Where's the warez version?
[11:30] <cousin_luigi> Ianian: the heh?
[11:30] <skyion> eish
[11:31] <cousin_luigi> Ianian: it's GPU intensive
[11:31] <rhanthony> emj: putty -D 8080 -ssh myserver
[11:31] <earthian> kennethr, also i would recommend debian for server like yours
[11:31] <johnsearle> linduxed: Ok... 'cause the file I'm downloading right now is ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
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[11:31] <thoreauputic> TB`: if you are going to troll, at least be a bit less transparent ;)
[11:31] <johnsearle> linduxed: So this is just mislabelled?
[11:31] <TB`> What's a troll?
[11:31] <rhanthony> emj: and it opens the window i can log in... that SHOULD forward all localhost:8080 to the server, over 22 (ssh) right?
[11:31] <Naib> johnsearle: looks final
[11:31] <thoreauputic> heh'
[11:31] <Ianian> so the only way is dual boot i guess?
[11:31] <kennethr> earthian: why debian vs. ubuntu?
[11:31] <fals1> thoreauputic: After removing n-m everything seems ok.
[11:31] <emj> rhanthony: Yes but check your firewall.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> fals1: ah good :)
[11:31] <rhanthony> emj: firewalls off.
[11:31] <emj> rhanthony: ok.. that's nice..
[11:31] <cousin_luigi> Ianian: if you want to use apps like that, yes
[11:32] <rhanthony> emj: ssh to localhost:8080 brings up another putty window... never gets to uname/pass prompts.
[11:32] <rhanthony> emj: but... doesn't fail either.
[11:32] <johnsearle> Naib: ok, well I'll download / seed until I hear otherwise
[11:32] <linduxed> johnsearle: actually at a closer look it looks right...
[11:32] <earthian> kennethr, because there is no much difference and debian has an option in the setup to not install all the gui stuff.
[11:32] <bahr> Hi I used to use Outlook 2007, for email and calender purposes, which I syncronized with my HTC S710, what can I use in Ubuntu, which can work with my phone, and which has good calendar support and email search support?
[11:32] <earthian> :)
[11:32] <TB`> I guess I'll have to stick with Win ME until I can order this new version of Ubuntu
[11:32] <DrusT> hi !
[11:32] <DrusT> is the 8.04 out ?
[11:32] <Ianian> hmmm... its not that i want it, i guess theres not yet a full featured autocad replacement in linux
[11:32] <Ianian> or is there one?
[11:32] <ceil420> DrusT, read the topci
[11:32] <ceil420> topic*
[11:32] <DrusT> oh sorry, I don't see the topic
[11:33] <earthian> also everybody uses debian on servers vs ubuntu
[11:33] <virdiq> !isitout | DrusT
[11:33] <ubotu> DrusT: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[11:33] <DrusT> okay ceefour
[11:33] <johnsearle> linduxed: good show... so it's out then :)
[11:33] <ICQnumber> !topic | DrusT
[11:33] <ubotu> DrusT: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[11:33] <linduxed> johnsearle: im downloading anyway
[11:33] <linduxed> johnsearle: nonetheless, the moment they release it on ubuntu.com il lbe downloading that too
[11:33] <johnsearle> :)
[11:33] <mhmed> ho ubuntu 8.4
[11:33] <rhanthony> damnit
[11:33] <rhanthony> this is soooo pissin me off.
[11:33] <Naib> why?
[11:33] <emj> rhanthony: ah.. not
[11:33] <insertnick> i love pulseaudio, just wish skype worked with it
[11:33] <insertnick> shaping up to be a good release
[11:33] <Naib> insertnick: try oss4 if you like pulseaudio ;)
[11:34] <emj> rhanthony:  no you have to do ssh -L 22:localhost:22 example.com
[11:34] <emj> rhanthony: to be able to SSH..
[11:34] <KyleK> uhhhhhh
[11:34] <egnuforthworld> what up everybody, http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent <- is this real and official?
[11:34] <Sturmeh> hardy herron out today?
[11:34] <johnsearle> linduxed: The date on that torrent file is 24-Apr-2008 09:23
[11:34] <insertnick> Naib: thanks for the tip
[11:34] <whalesalad> Hey guys gettin a strange error when I run 'sudo -i', this is what I get: 'sudo: shell: command not found'
[11:34] <mhmed> ترقيةاوبونتوالى8.4كيف
[11:34] <johnsearle> linduxed: So it looks like it was u/l this morning
[11:35] <soundray> !topic | Sturmeh
[11:35] <ubotu> Sturmeh: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[11:35] <johnsearle> linduxed: I assume they u/l to their mirrors before announcing
[11:35] <Gang> It seems that 8.04 is available on http://tw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[11:35] <Sturmeh> I didn't ask for the release date
[11:35] <Sturmeh> -_
[11:35] <Sturmeh> just say no
[11:35] <Edulix> hi
[11:35] <linduxed> johnsearle: i just noticed
[11:35] <linduxed> johnsearle: ubuntu.com is down
[11:35] <linduxed> means theyre updating it
[11:35] <laeg> #ubuntu-release-party
[11:35] <Edulix> I've got 4gb of ram but ubuntu only recognizes 2.8
[11:36] <Edulix> what's up?
[11:36] <laeg> whoops
[11:36] <Seveas> egnuforthworld, it's not official before it's announced :)
[11:36] <arj> did you get the 64bit edition?
[11:36] <soundray> Edulix: you need the 64bit version
[11:36] <Sturmeh> u don't need 64bit to use 4gb of ram
[11:36] <Sturmeh> :\
[11:36] <trebaruna> Or the page is down because everyone is F5-ing it
[11:36] <Edulix> soundray: I'm ubuntu 64 bits already
[11:36] <egnuforthworld> Seveas: ah whatever, ill just take the Torrent :P
[11:36] <Edulix> Linux edulix-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:36] <mhmed> محدش عارف طريقة الترقيه
[11:36] <hello_World> hello all .. while installing screenlet . i accepted it to over ride theme settings and now FPS has become like sh*t as when i move my windows it takes about 5 sec to move it ,,, please ask if need more clearence thanks
[11:36] <ubuntu_demon> in the /etc/wpasupplicant folder normally the file is called : wpa_supplicant.conf (but you have to create it yourself). see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant for more information and examples
[11:36] <Seveas> egnuforthworld, those also are not official before it's announced :)
[11:36] <Seveas> mhmed, english please in here
[11:37] <soundray> Edulix: have you tried the memtest86 boot option?
[11:37] <ICQnumber> !en | mhmed
[11:37] <ubotu> mhmed: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:37] <johnsearle> linduxed: very good.
[11:37] <johnsearle> Good speed on the torrent if the mirrors are slow...
[11:37] <johnsearle> http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:37]  * cousin_luigi wonders if the torrent he's downloading is the real McCoy
[11:37] <ICQnumber> !ar | mhmed
[11:37] <Edulix> soundray: same, only gets 2.8gb
[11:37] <ubotu> mhmed: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe
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[11:37] <zhaoyun> n
[11:38] <Edulix> soundray: and the bios recognices only 3.5gb ¿?
[11:38] <mhmed> i no englsh
[11:38] <gordslater> salaam mhmed ?moomkin ttkelem nglizi min fadlik?
[11:38] <Seveas> ICQnumber, that's argentina :)
[11:38] <Fdisk93> hardy 8.04 is on a few of the mirrors now
[11:38] <ICQnumber> Seveas: i see lol
[11:38] <soundray> Edulix: perhaps your motherboard doesn't support 4GB
[11:38] <virdiq> congratulations on the 8.04 release!!
[11:38] <ICQnumber> !arabic
[11:38] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join للغة العربية رجاء انظم #ubuntu-sa
[11:38] <TB`> Naib - is it released yet?
[11:38] <icesword> where
[11:38] <Edulix> soundray: well it supports 3.5
[11:38] <Edulix> with 3.5 I'd be happy
[11:38] <Gang> Fdisk93: Yes,I am downloading
[11:38] <ICQnumber> !arabic | mhmed
[11:38] <egnuforthworld> Celebrate! Its out! 8.04 GOGOGO! GET THE TORRENT!
[11:38] <ubotu> mhmed: please see above
[11:38] <Fdisk93> cool
[11:38] <icesword> !hardy
[11:38] <Fdisk93> me to
[11:38] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Support in #ubuntu+1 - Come join the #ubuntu-release-party now!
[11:39] <egnuforthworld> a nother great day for gnu/linux !!
[11:39] <rhanthony> okay
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[11:39] <icesword> where
[11:39] <rhanthony> ssh tunnels are teh suck.
[11:39] <Gang> http://tw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[11:39] <rhanthony> i dont get it.
[11:39] <hello_World> egnuforthworld: hi where is the torrent
[11:39] <bahr> can I do an update to 8.04 directly from 7.10?
[11:39] <teqen> Polish server with HH http://ubuntu.task.gda.pl/ubuntu-releases/hardy/
[11:39] <rhanthony> i'm done.  giving up before I go mad.
[11:39] <roffe__> no, it says coming soon still
[11:39] <ceil420> i don't want torrent, i want update-manager to have it :x
[11:39] <hello_World> hello all .. while installing screenlet . i accepted it to over ride theme settings and now FPS has become like sh*t as when i move my windows it takes about 5 sec to move it ,,, please ask if need more clearence thanks
[11:39] <icesword> k
[11:39] <rhanthony> emj: have you used tinyproxy?
[11:39] <ceil420> preferably within the next 20 mins so i can set it to download while i go to work :x
[11:39] <Naib> TB`: Gentoo-2008.1 isn't no
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[11:40] <alienbrain> Gang, what's tw?
[11:40] <TB`> IT IS OUT!! WOOT!! http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[11:40] <TB`> Check it out
[11:40] <xblack> quit
[11:40] <mhmed> ana msh aklm anglyz kowys
[11:40] <emj> rhanthony: Yes.. I still think you problem is your XP machine..
[11:40] <Ianian> tw = taiwan
[11:40] <ricanelite> Big day today!
[11:40] <c_varun> where is kubuntu?
[11:40] <Gang> alienbrain: stand for taiwan, a part of china
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[11:41] <TB`> When is the official announcement?
[11:41] <Sturmeh> it's out TB`?
[11:41] <Sturmeh> :P
[11:41] <TB`> Yes sir
[11:41] <Sturmeh> get it and seed
[11:41] <Sturmeh> :D
[11:41] <Ultumix0015> hello
[11:41] <putkonen> whats the right file?
[11:41] <TB`> I pre-ordered it
[11:41] <ironic_isnt_it> can anyone help me out with the irc issue?
[11:41] <stdin> no it's not
[11:41] <TB`> Was only $40
[11:41] <c_varun> stunatra, i dont see kubuntu
[11:41] <grzyb> idiots
[11:41] <grzyb> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) Release Candidate
[11:41] <grzyb> RC..
[11:42] <emj> use net install or HD install if you can.. Better to download a small boot image and then download package by package..
[11:42] <grzyb> on this .tw
[11:42] <alienbrain> Gang, aha, because tw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ doesn't say Release Candidate in the title, while releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ does ;P
[11:42]  * virdiq waits for slashdot direct links in 3...2...1...?
[11:42] <hello_World> TB`: nice
[11:42] <TB`> Sup hello_World?
[11:42] <emj> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[11:42] <Ultumix0015> i am new to ultumix, it first looked like vista now i have messed with the display settings how do i get it back to the way it was, i  think i was playingthe the 3d effects
[11:42] <TB`> The torrents are going mad for Ubuntu
[11:42] <hello_World> hello all .. while installing screenlet . i accepted it to over ride theme settings and now FPS has become like sh*t as when i move my windows it takes about 5 sec to move it ,,, please ask if need more clearence thanks
[11:42] <Gang> alienbrain: why there is no "rc" in the filename of ISO files?
[11:42] <Myrtti> IT'S NOT OUT YET
[11:43] <hello_World> TB`: :)
[11:43] <TB`> Myrtti it is out I see it allover torrents
[11:43] <TB`> hello_World ;-)
[11:43] <mhmed> mn fdlkm ayz arf azay arky ubunyu
[11:43] <Seveas> it's not released until the release is announced
[11:43] <Myrtti> PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING ANY URLS TO DOWNLOADING SITES
[11:43] <Ultumix0015> anyone can help?
[11:43] <johnsearle> grzyb: its on this mirror: http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[11:43] <Sturmeh> have you guys seen this?
[11:43] <Sturmeh> http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[11:43] <Danie2> I think that I am downloading 8.10 now. Could it be possible that it is not the release candidate?
[11:43] <ricanelite> now the firefox 3 beta?
[11:43] <ricanelite> there is full version of it
[11:43] <TB`> Download sites like www.buyubuntuhere.com ?
[11:43] <ipx> Danie2: lol, 8.04 u mean :>
[11:43] <ricanelite> or firefox is still in beta?
[11:43] <ceil420> Danie2, i don't think anything about 8.10 is ready yet <_<
[11:43] <Myrtti> IT'S NOT OUT UNTIL THE ANNOUNCMENT IS MADE
[11:43] <Ultumix0015> how do i change windows
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[11:43] <Gang> 8.10~~
[11:44] <Sturmeh> ff3 is sitll in beta
[11:44] <Sturmeh> is rc1 out yeT?
[11:44] <TB`> Why wait for official announce? I see it
[11:44] <ceil420> Ultumix0015, what kind of windows?
[11:44] <TB`> Seeding now
[11:44] <TB`> Want Link?
[11:44] <hello_World> TB`: any fast direct site do u know ;)
[11:44] <ipx> TB`: lol, its FAKE
[11:44] <ricanelite> now what happens if I want to use the stable Firefox
[11:44] <ricanelite> what do i need to do
[11:44] <grzyb> eh
[11:45] <sweRascal> apt-get install firefox2 ;)
[11:45] <ceil420> Ubuntu will have the 'stable' firefox installed by default; it won't release Firefox 3 beta for you
[11:45] <Sturmeh> http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ <--- firefox start page for ubuntu 8.04 :P
[11:45] <ceil420> (i don't think...)
[11:45] <grzyb> look @ rls list http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ i dont see there final..
[11:45] <Sturmeh> they wouldn't
[11:45] <Myrtti> /me takes her big orange Ubuntu-Release-Day CANNON and points at grzyb
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[11:45] <Danie2> I downloaded this one, looks like final: http://tw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[11:45] <corporal_clegg> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/release/
[11:45] <alex314> Why isn't hardy released yet!?!
[11:45] <ironic_isnt_it> btw anyone know when firefox 3'll finally come outta beta or best estimate?
[11:45] <Gang> Danie2: me too
[11:46] <XB23> guys any good software that could syncronize 2 folders on different machines so both have exactly the same files?
[11:46] <icesword> June
[11:46] <Ljungmann> Are there going to be torrents of ubuntu and the like somewhere?
[11:46] <offseid> hey everyone - waiting patiently here in malaysia!
[11:46] <Gang> I have download it, and run it in my VMware
[11:46] <arj> rsync
[11:46] <Seveas> XB23, rsync
[11:46] <XB23> wicked, thankyou
[11:46] <Ultumix0015> how do i switch you my other desktop
[11:46] <alex314> I thought Hardy would be released 2 hours ago!
[11:46] <alex314> where is it?
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[11:46] <un2him> i heard ff3 will be released in june
[11:46] <alex314> that's true
[11:46] <Myrtti> it's not released yet
[11:46] <alex314> but the beta 5 is standard in Hardy
[11:46] <Sturmeh> hehe
[11:46] <earthian> where can i get support with dosemu?
[11:46] <ironic_isnt_it> i cant wait i like ff
[11:46] <ceil420> un2him, i'm using it now, because even as beta it still has better memory management than Fx2 :p
[11:47] <ceil420> i do miss some of my extensions, though :(
[11:47] <hello_World> hello all .. while installing screenlet . i accepted it to over ride theme settings and now FPS has become like sh*t as when i move my windows it takes about 5 sec to move it ,,, please ask if need more clearence thanks :) please help
[11:47] <grzyb> chuje
[11:47] <IntangibleLiquid> is adblockplus working in FF3?
[11:47] <NekoKun> Hey, where's the new version link? :p
[11:47] <Myrtti> there is no
[11:47] <ironic_isnt_it> i heard its gonna be a hell of lot faster
[11:47] <Myrtti> ironic_isnt_it: stop asking
[11:47] <Myrtti> sorry
[11:47] <Myrtti> NekoKun: there is no link yet
[11:47] <ceil420> IntangibleLiquid, not sure if it's one thing i've got running in compatibility mode with Nightly Tester Tools, but it's working for me :)
[11:47] <volvox> WAAAAA!! Hardy is late!! Cannot resist... tell me when so that I can hibernate till then!
[11:47] <freep> IntangibleLiquid: yep, works now
[11:47] <ceil420> volvox, day ain't over yet
[11:48] <NekoKun> Myrtti: I know... I was just playing...
[11:48]  * volvox was being silly
[11:48] <NekoKun> What's this version's name?
[11:48] <Myrtti> NekoKun: I don't have sense of humor today
[11:48] <cyb3r> MICROSOFT WINDOWS VISTA RULEZ  dirty bastards
[11:48] <freep> volvox: The weather is great outside. Enjoy it for a whine. Then download and install.
[11:48] <ceil420> NekoKun, Hardy Heron
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[11:48] <NekoKun> Myrtti: Any specific reason?
[11:48] <NekoKun> cyb3r: That's what santa says
[11:49] <ironic_isnt_it> but i need help
[11:49] <Myrtti> NekoKun: I hate babysitting people making false "yay it's released" yells here
[11:49] <Myrtti> since it's not
[11:49] <ceil420> ironic_isnt_it, you're not being vague enough
[11:49] <Naib> Myrtti: +m the channel then
[11:49] <Naib> ;)
[11:49] <Myrtti> Naib: lol
[11:49] <Myrtti> :-|
[11:49] <Gang> How to confirm that the ISO I download is 8.04, but not RC?
[11:49] <NekoKun> Myrtti: Well, I'm actually waiting for xUbuntu version
[11:49] <ceil420> Gang, it's not
[11:49] <Myrtti> Gang: wait until the official announcment
[11:49] <alienbrain> Gang, you wait for the announcement and get the official links
[11:49] <shufla> Gang: i think, you won't be able to download non-rc iso
[11:49] <ironic_isnt_it> vague?
[11:50] <hello_World> !dapper
[11:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details.
[11:50] <[B00]> wish they would just get it released and have done with it
[11:50] <ironic_isnt_it> i thought good details would help
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[11:50] <[B00]> stop alot of hype
[11:50] <ceil420> [B00], 10mins and i gotta go to work. i don't think it'll be ready in update-manager by then :(
[11:50] <b33r> if someone dls an rc version can't he just update to the final release when it's announced?
[11:50] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:50] <alienbrain> b33r, don't think so
[11:50] <_mika_> which is the user/password to login for the livecd ?
[11:50] <IntangibleLiquid> will GMA 950 be enough for 3-D effects in 8-04?
[11:50] <XB23> guys using rsync how would i sync local directory /root with  the /root directory on remote machine?
[11:51] <[B00]> ceil420, i think you maybe right but then it may still not be released by the time you get back either rofl
[11:51] <Gang> shufla:  Could you have a look at this one, http://tw.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/?
[11:51] <Seveas> _mika_, username ubuntu, there is no password
[11:51] <XB23> say server1.example.com  and server2.example.com
[11:51] <geirha> b33r: yes
[11:51] <Yoni> Cheers!!
[11:51] <NekoKun> We need an automsg here: Today is the Release Day! Wait for the announcement of Hardy Heron here on Ubuntu Channel
[11:51] <b33r> so why the hell people are whining if they want it that much dl rc release ffs
[11:51] <ceil420> [B00], lol that'd suck >< i wanna update solely so i can upgrade libconfuse and install awesome wm
[11:51] <shufla> gang: might be. I'll wait. no gurry.
[11:51] <NekoKun> Ok, the 'ubuntu channel' was a joke...
[11:51] <ceil420> b33r, i tried. update-manager won't let me.
[11:51] <virdiq> myrddin_: you need a bot that looks for phrases like "is it released" and then forwards those people to a #ubuntu-is-not-released channel (+m) where there is a looping message about why it isn't yet released
[11:52] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[11:52] <yeah> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ seems like its out
[11:52] <Ultumix0015> how do i change desktops?
[11:52] <gordslater> a smart guy could check the file sizes, eg desktop-RC is slightly smaller, 690 iirc, ymmv
[11:52] <NekoKun> Myrtti: lol
[11:52] <rhanthony> emj: finally got it working.
[11:52] <DJones> maybe floodbot needs to kick people who post links with "releases.ubuntu" in them
[11:52] <mprime> the torrent is available from the ubuntu site
[11:52] <sleepster> anyone know which package glib-gettextize comes with?
[11:52] <lya> it's ouuttt :D
[11:52] <emj> rhanthony:  yayay!!!!!
[11:52] <lya> let's download
[11:52] <virdiq> !isitout | lya
[11:52] <rhanthony> emj: setup for firefox / putty was TOTALLY different than the how-tos
[11:52] <emj> rhanthony: Congrats!
[11:52] <LoRe> how can i stop nautilus from opening a window when i mount a filesystem?
[11:52] <ubotu> lya: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[11:52] <lya> hey don't take my bandwidth :P lool
[11:53] <emj> rhanthony: What was the answer then?
[11:53] <NekoKun> Myrtti: May I send a private question? O.o
[11:53] <rhanthony> emj: now when i go to www.whatismyip.org in firefox, i get my home IP, not the work provided one.  so it's working.
[11:53] <Myrtti> NekoKun: sure
[11:53] <Aciid> is it out already!
[11:53] <rhanthony> just wanna find a way to make sure i'm ONLY sending port 22 traffic now...
[11:53] <rhanthony> and need to make sure DNS requests are happing on the far end... not on this end.
[11:53] <virdiq> !isitout | Aciid
[11:53] <ubotu> Aciid: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[11:53] <XB23> anyone here who knows how to use rsync back of here hand?
[11:54] <Yoni> Did ya all add the event to their facebook profile?:)
[11:54] <stimpie> XB23, you are looking for a girl who knows rsync? good luck!
[11:54] <rhanthony> emj: answer was ... "putty -D 8080 -ssh myserver"
[11:54] <thefish> XB23, what do you want to do?
[11:54] <rhanthony> emj: and then setting firefox up to use socks 5 proxy of localhost:8080
[11:55] <nxusr> which amarok engine is better--xine or yauap?
[11:55] <LoRe> uh, found it myself, finally :)
[11:55] <emj> rhanthony:  ok.. Well that's what should be in all guides.. ;-)
[11:55] <thefish> rhanthony, dns will still go to whatever you have in /etc/resolv.conf with that setup
[11:55] <rhanthony> emj: only thing now is to get DNS lookups to happen on far end... totally encrypting all evidence of web traffic inside of the ssh tunnel.
[11:55] <emj> thefish:  no it goes through socks I think..
[11:55] <thefish> emj, it doesnt
[11:55] <emj> emj: So you do connect example.com
[11:55] <rhanthony> emj: most of the guides way to set the HTTP proxy in firefox, which wasn't doing it... or, tell you to setup both the ssh tunnel, AND a socks proxy in putty, which didn't work.
[11:55] <thefish> firefox is just sending the http requests through socks
[11:56] <_mika_> nice, i'm trying hardy on a pc.... it login, xorg crashes, and then login again.....it's a nice loop...  :(
[11:56] <julio-saraiva> is Todaaaaaay big day
[11:56] <rhanthony> thefish: I want dns lookups to go through the ssh tunnel, and be done by the far server, results returned over the tunnel.
[11:56] <julio-saraiva> Alguem do Brasil ai
[11:56] <laeg> 8.04 is in my update manager! :D
[11:56] <Seveas> !br | julio-saraiva
[11:56] <ubotu> julio-saraiva: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[11:57] <ricanelite> does virtualbox run fine Hardy?
[11:57] <rhanthony> thefish: i don't want any outgoing DNS requrest traffic on the network i'm connected to... ONLY the ssh tunnel (which i'm going to hide in port 443 tomorrow hehehe)
[11:57] <thefish> rhanthony, not sure if it would work, but maybe you could use another socks tunnel on dns port, then add localhost to resolv.conf
[11:57] <thefish> otherwise, id use openvpn
[11:57] <Yoni> Does intel 945 fully supported on 8.04rc?
[11:57] <ironic_isnt_it> back
[11:57] <|ns|nR8> torrent released on mininova 35 minutes ago, claims to be .....
[11:58] <rhanthony> thefish: problem is, in putty it gives the option... i'll play with it (dns on far server)... but i had to use command line to get this far, so that might not work or might break what i have already.
[11:58] <darkfritz2> ah... so the LTS release is no final release_
[11:58] <rhanthony> thefish: another dns over ssh is a good idea.
[11:58] <darkfritz2> ?
[11:58] <thefish> rhanthony, you are on a windows box and want to tunnel from there?
[11:58] <ironic_isnt_it> am i still marked as away? just wanna make sure i got the command right
[11:58] <rhanthony> anyone know a good program in windows to monitor inbound/outbound port traffic in real time?
[11:58] <darkfritz2> is the LTS release the final? or shall i wait for it?
[11:58] <Myrtti> ironic_isnt_it: yes you are
[11:58] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[11:59] <ceil420> rhanthony, ask ##windows
[11:59] <rhanthony> thefish: yes, xp laptop on wireless network, tunneling to ubuntu server @ home.
[11:59] <virdiq> !isitout
[11:59] <thefish> rhanthony, another way to do it, that would definately work...
[11:59] <ironic_isnt_it> how i come back?
[11:59] <ubotu> The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[11:59] <thefish> rhanthony, add -X to the ssh options (enable X tunneling), then run firefox/whatever from the remote box
[11:59] <igravious> hey peeps, i upgraded eclipse from 3.2 to 3.3 - is the heron going to womp it when it lands?
[11:59] <Myrtti> ironic_isnt_it: /away
[11:59] <tom_> rhanthony: Could you put an iptables rule on your router to redirect all outgoing traffic to localhost:50000, for example, and have a SSH tunnel running on port 50000?
[11:59] <emj> thefish:  ok you are right..
[11:59] <ironic_isnt_it> oh ty
[11:59] <rhanthony> thefish: and i'm seton using putty cause it's portable, can be run off of usb drive... along with my firefox... so any computer anywhere, gives encrypted tunnel to surf through home server :P
[12:00] <igravious> i only ask because eclipse is a *pain* to get right
[12:00] <thefish> rhanthony, that means you are actually tunneling your X session with firefox (sortof like vnc) - and then EVERYTHING is over encrypted link
[12:00] <ironic_isnt_it> k am i still away?
[12:00] <rhanthony> thefish: but i'm using XP, not linux, as my desktop
[12:00] <ceil420> * [ironic_isnt_it] is away (getting coffee. if u can help private me)
[12:00] <gordslater> thefish: i think he's using a XP laptop, scroll up
[12:00] <rhanthony> thefish: otherwise I would have set it up that way, yeah.
[12:00] <loseblue> server http://irc.ubuntu.org.cn/
[12:00] <gordslater> unfortunately...
[12:00] <ceil420> ironic_isnt_it, don't you just have to type /away again to be back?
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[12:01] <ironic_isnt_it> i did
[12:01] <ceil420> and still no 8.04 in --dist-upgrade :(
[12:01] <thefish> rhanthony, what about nomachine? you will get similar results like that, and its FAST
[12:01]  * ceil420 goes to work
[12:01] <ceil420> gonna have a boring afternoon when i get home ><
[12:01]  * Naib <3 his irssi screen-detach autoaway/back script
[12:01] <thefish> rhanthony, i think nomachine can also run from a usb stick
[12:01] <rhanthony> thefish: what i'm trying to setup is the ability to use a USB thumbdrive with putty/firefox/x-chat, to give me a ssh tunnel to my home server and allow encrypted web/irc from anywhere, with NO evidence of anything but SSH, on the host network I'm at.
[12:01] <rconan> people are agonna slate me for saying it's released but releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04 now has things claiming to be the final release
[12:01] <emj> rhanthony: as I said you can also use tinproxy
[12:02] <stdin> it's not
[12:02] <emj> rhanthony:  Tinyproxy will hide the DNS lok ups..
[12:02] <the_alamo> when a application is installed (via synaptic or whatever) where does it place the file that executes the app?
[12:02] <tom_> the_alamo: /usr/bin, usually.
[12:02] <thefish> rhanthony, SOCKS will encrypt your http and poss irc traffic, not dns (the way you describe at least)
[12:02] <rhanthony> emj: well as of right now... I can surf the web through my home server.  my ip shows up as the servers, not this networks... so i have what i want.
[12:02] <rhanthony> the ONLY additional thing now is getting the remote server at home, to do the DNS lookups.
[12:02] <emj> thefish:  though you can connect to a proxy on the SSH server and it will hide those as well.
[12:03] <the_alamo> tom_, just in case you know specifically -- is that where firefox stores it?
[12:03] <simonova> rconan, I believe that is correct, it has no rc in the name like it did two hours ago, so I'd say it's out
[12:03] <rhanthony> and putty's config screens give that option... however, I used the command line to get it working, so not sure if it is also command line selectable as well.
[12:03] <emj> rhanthony: which you do by apt-get install tinyproxy
[12:03] <ironic_isnt_it> u mean im still not back
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[12:03] <thefish> rhanthony, have you seen nomachine? its very simple to set up, and you can run single linux apps from anywhere as if they were local apps (works on win too)
[12:03] <tom_> the_alamo: it's wrong to say "is that where firefox stores it". It's synaptic that puts it there. firefox /is/ the executable file.
[12:03] <rconan> simonova, i loaded the page and it said release candidate in the heading, pressed refresh three seconds later and it didn't so i think that was it
[12:03] <tom_> the_alamo: However, I can't say for sure if it is.
[12:04] <Myrtti> rconan: it's not announced yet
[12:04] <rhanthony> emj: even if i put proxy software on the server, this laptop will do the dns lookups before passing the ip over the tunnel for the request... which shows the network HERE, what domains i'm trying to access.
[12:04] <tom_> the_alamo: try 'whereis firefox' if you have firefox installed.
[12:04] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:04] <arcsky> Offical release ?  http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[12:04] <stdin> arcsky: No
[12:04] <KyleK> rhanthony: uhm
[12:04] <rconan> i know bu tthey can only update the pages so quick
[12:04] <arcsky> stdin: ok
[12:04] <Myrtti> /me takes her big orange Ubuntu-Release-Day CANNON and points at arcsky
[12:04] <|ns|nR8> stdin, do you know if this is http://www.mininova.org/det/1352774
[12:04] <emj> rhanthony: no!
[12:04] <stdin> it's not
[12:04] <KyleK> rhanthony: proxy requests for http are GET http://somehwere.com, no DNS on the client
[12:04] <the_alamo> tom_, yes the problem is that firefox isn't installed properly and i think the location of the file might have something to do with it.
[12:04] <thefish> rhanthony, i reckon if you run the app from the remote server, its the best way to encrypt everything, because all requests are then made from the remote, you only get the screen
[12:05] <tom_> the_alamo: Open a terminal and type 'whereis firefox'
[12:05] <quentusrex> |ns|nR8, that's it, but not 'official' yet
[12:05] <rhanthony> thefish: I realize i can do it that way, yes.  but also due to the nature of the server, i dont want to run alot off of it...
[12:05] <rhanthony> thefish: it's not going to be there for me to use as a remote workstation...
[12:06] <the_alamo> tom_, firefox: /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu /usr/lib/firefox /usr/share/firefox
[12:06] <thefish> KyleK, install wireshark, start sniffing on your eth - then open a web page in firefox, you will see a dns request (unencrypted) to your dns server, no matter if you are using socks
[12:06] <|ns|nR8> rc quentusrex ?
[12:06] <emj> thefish:  yes...
[12:06] <quentusrex> nope
[12:06] <virdiq> the torrent stats page is reporting approx 1gbps bandwidth in the torrent pool
[12:06] <tom_> the_alamo: also, run 'echo $PATH'
[12:06] <grzyb> root@sextasy:/mnt/zew# debootstrap hardy $CHROOT
[12:06] <grzyb> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/hardy
[12:06] <grzyb> crap !
[12:06] <quentusrex> rc has different has
[12:06] <KyleK> well yes with socks
[12:06] <pir> 8.04 torrent link?
[12:06] <rhanthony> emj: so if i setup tinyproxy.... and put that as my http proxy... dns requests are done by the proxy server, not this client machine?
[12:06] <fx|RabBitt> does anyone know a good howto on linux networks?
[12:06] <emj> thefish:  and proxy clients does not use DNS..
[12:06] <Seveas> grzyb, copy the gutsy script :)
[12:06] <virdiq> !isitout pir
[12:06] <pir> !isout
[12:06] <quentusrex> I'm donating right now about 80Mbps upload
[12:06] <Myrtti> Please DO NOT POST ANY LINKS TO *ANY* DOWNLOAD SITES YET
[12:06] <KyleK> isitout
[12:06] <emj> rhanthony:  yes
[12:06] <thefish> emj, exactly - not sure if its possible over socks
[12:07] <grzyb> Seveas, you think ?
[12:07] <KyleK> get it right ;_;
[12:07] <pir> !isitout
[12:07] <pir> hmz
[12:07] <the_alamo> tom_, /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[12:07] <Myrtti> IT'S NOT OUT UNTIL THE FAT LADY SINGS
[12:07] <Seveas> grzyb, it's what I always do
[12:07] <notsniw> its out
[12:07] <sedra> hello if i install the RC of hardy should i make an upgrade after the final release?
[12:07] <Seveas> Myrtti, you gonna sing?
[12:07] <dna_> rofl Myrtti
[12:07]  * Seveas runs and hides
[12:07] <Myrtti> Seveas: sure
[12:07] <gordslater> _she's warming up tho...
[12:07] <loseblue> disconnect
[12:07] <Myrtti> Seveas: Phil Collins
[12:07] <emj> thefish:  well socks gives DNS requests in tcpdump -p 53 and proxy doesn't.. ;-)
[12:07] <b33r> anyone want free socks? :D
[12:07] <notsniw> torrents available
[12:07] <Seveas> Myrtti, ahh, nice and tacky
[12:07] <Ljungmann> virdiq, where do you see torrent stats?
[12:07] <pfifo_fast> free socks!!!!
[12:07] <Myrtti> Seveas: or Rick Astley "When I fall in love"
[12:07] <thefish> emj, ye because dns client and firefox are completely separate
[12:08] <motin_0> THE FAT LADY SINGS
[12:08] <thefish> emj, and dns client hasnt been told
[12:08] <rhanthony> emj: but there's a way to get DNS requests to happen at the socks server... at the far end... so shouldn't need proxy for it.
[12:08] <virdiq> Ljungmann: would tell you but I don't want to get banned from this channel... try googling "ubuntu torrent"
[12:08] <ironic_isnt_it> what the hell? how do i come outta away?
[12:08] <tom_> the_alamo: Ok. So when you run 'firefox', it will search each directory in $PATH for 'firefox' and run it if it finds out. however, notice /usr/lib isn't in $PATH (don't worry, it shouldn't be). it seems firefox is at /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu     You could try running '/usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu' to test if ubuntu is working.
[12:08] <Ljungmann> thx
[12:08] <rhanthony> ironic_isnt_it: /away
[12:08] <tom_> the_alamo: actually, what actually is the problem? Does it not start when you click on firefox in the menu
[12:09] <ironic_isnt_it> i have several times
[12:09] <Mora> Hello! Does any one know if/how one can reset i8042 (i.e. keyboard + psaux devices) without rmmodding the driver? I have a laptop that hangs the keyboard and mouse on resume
[12:09] <emj> rhanthony:  You can also setup you client to do DNS requests over Socksv5, but that's very unbeautifull..
[12:10] <ironic_isnt_it> watch
[12:10] <fx|RabBitt> when was hardy? was that tomorrow?
[12:10] <the_alamo> tom_, firefox doesn't start in the menu or from the terminal. it is installed but doesn't recognize it.  it will start if i sudo nautilus to the directory and choose it there but that is the only time
[12:10] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:10] <virdiq> !isitout | fx|RabBitt
[12:10] <rhanthony> emj: in the putty graphical configs... it's just a check box :) wonder if there's a command switch i can add to the line I'm using now that will make it happen... looking for it now.
[12:10] <thefish> rhanthony, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Network.proxy.socks_remote_dns
[12:10] <V_max> Sup guys
[12:10] <kimmey> Now i got 8.04 =9
[12:10] <fx|RabBitt> virdiq: humm that wasnt it XD
[12:10] <tom_> the_alamo: Hmm, have you tried uninstalling it and reinstalling it through synaptic?
[12:10] <the_alamo> yep.
[12:10] <virdiq> fx|RabBitt: I think that bot is being overworked in other channels :p
[12:11] <fx|RabBitt> hahaha
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[12:11] <emj> thefish:  nice..
[12:11] <tom_> the_alamo: what's the output of 'ls -l /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu'   let's see the permissions.
[12:11] <the_alamo> tom_, i think i tried that twice.
[12:11] <fx|RabBitt> i need a howto on network concepts pls guys:)
[12:11] <V_max> GUYS IS 8.04 FINALY OUT???ON THE MAIN PAGE I CANT C ANY LINKS FOR THE FINAL VERSION...DO U HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN IT WILL BE OUT?
[12:11] <gordslater> the bot's still hung up on "jerry's dead"
[12:11] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:11] <ironic_isnt_it> see im still away
[12:12] <Myrtti> V_max: it's not out, you'll be told when it is
[12:12] <sedra> in the US it's thursday ? :D
[12:12] <rhanthony> ha
[12:12] <Myrtti> V_max: stop refreshing the site
[12:12] <the_alamo> tom_, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2008-04-22 20:48 /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu -> firefox-3.0
[12:12] <fx|RabBitt> V_max: sudo update-manager -n
[12:12] <tom_> the_alamo: Okay. How about 'ps aux | grep firefox' Maybe you ran it but it stopped responded and crashed or something similar.
[12:12] <rhanthony> it's that easy in firefox
[12:12] <obsethryl> V_max: stop shouting please, it is pretty annoying, thanks.
[12:12] <tom_> responding*
[12:12] <rhanthony> emj: in about:config for firefox, change network.proxy.socks_dns_remote to TRUE.... done.
[12:12] <emj> Myrtti: feeling helpfull today I see
[12:12] <NekoKun> mmm...
[12:12] <rhanthony> sweet.
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[12:13] <sedra> IS IT THURSDAY????
[12:13] <NekoKun> miss text coloring in ChatZilla...
[12:13] <rhanthony> thefish: thank you.
[12:13] <emj> rhanthony: :-)
[12:13] <thefish> rhanthony, get wireshark or tcpdump to verify that for you :)
[12:13] <Myrtti> @now samoa
[12:13] <Myrtti> oh darn
[12:13] <Myrtti> sedra: no it's not in samoa
[12:13] <IntangibleLiquid> is the release based on US timezone?
[12:13] <pir> what is the dutch ubuntu chan?
[12:13] <thefish> rhanthony, np, please let me know if it works!
[12:13] <rhanthony> thefish: those are windows proggies?
[12:13] <Myrtti> IntangibleLiquid: no
[12:13] <hello_World> emrald doesnot work in hardy :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764719
[12:13] <DJones> !nl | pir
[12:13] <Myrtti> pir: #ubuntu-nl
[12:13] <fx|RabBitt> anybody ever built a linux network?
[12:13] <thefish> wireshark can work on windows yes
[12:13] <emj> rhanthony:  yes they are
[12:13] <rhanthony> thefish: want to verify right now... i'll be on for several more hours from work here
[12:13] <pir> tnx
[12:13] <thefish> theres also windows network monitor you can install
[12:13] <pir> !nl
[12:13] <throe> so this is  it, hardy heron is final?
[12:13] <virdiq> sedra: Ubuntu Hardy includes a new feature called "caps lock protection in IRC", preventing accidental use of caps lock on IRC
[12:13] <Myrtti> no
[12:14] <sedra> im on Windows
[12:14] <thefish> rhanthony, you on XP? not sure if wireshark breaks under vista
[12:14] <Myrtti> it's not out until the official announcment
[12:14] <the_alamo> here is the output of grep:  bradley   5479  0.0  0.0   3804   772 pts/1    S+   20:13   0:00 grep firefox
[12:14] <Naib> virdiq: that is /msg Chanserv op #ubuntu && /kb
[12:14] <mindframe> how can i get my dell d520 to properly display its native resolution (1400x1050)?  Whenever I set it to that parts of the desktop are cut off.
[12:14] <throe> but its today isnt it?
[12:14] <Naib> throe: yes today is today
[12:14] <Myrtti> throe: yes
[12:14] <IntangibleLiquid> hope sound and function keys will work in 8.04
[12:14] <throe> so is it out now or later
[12:14] <IntangibleLiquid> had no luck with the previous release
[12:14] <Myrtti> throe: later
[12:15] <tom_> the_alamo: Okay so firefox isn't secretly running in the background. Exactly what happens when you run '/usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu'?
[12:15] <ironic_isnt_it> this is pissing me off
[12:15] <Myrtti> throe: the announcment will be made by an operator of the channel
[12:15] <Myrtti> ironic_isnt_it: which client are you using?
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[12:15] <throe> hope the newest kernel will work
[12:15] <ironic_isnt_it> xchat
[12:15] <IntangibleLiquid> is PulseAudio a sound system like alsa?
[12:15] <Naib> throe: what?
[12:15] <_Rambaldi_> #ubuntu-release-party
[12:15] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: describe your problem please, maybe we can help
[12:15] <Myrtti> ironic_isnt_it: try /back?
[12:15] <Naib> throe: all kernels work
[12:15] <throe> announcment on irc?
[12:15] <farchord> Anyone knows a fix to the problem where USB devices don't seem to powerdown when linux shuts down? Seems to be a problem with many distros, probably proper to the NF4 chipset...
[12:15] <ironic_isnt_it> ok will do
[12:15] <Myrtti> throe: yes, here too
[12:15] <throe> well, work for me
[12:15] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: i need concepts on how to build a linux network pls
[12:16] <Naib> throe: roll yr own
[12:16] <throe> i havent been able to start the last ones
[12:16] <the_alamo> tom_, it appears as if nothing happens.
[12:16] <hello_World> emrald doesnot work in hardy :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764719
[12:16] <simonova> Naib: one word. hurd
[12:16] <IntangibleLiquid> i feel guilty about refreshing the homepage every once in a while
[12:16] <NekoKun> %c4,2 test...
[12:16] <Myrtti> IntangibleLiquid: don't
[12:16] <zec1> I'm using emerald in Hardy right now
[12:16] <ironic_isnt_it> lmao shit i feel stupid
[12:16] <sedra> please whereis the link of the final release of hardy?
[12:16] <NekoKun> %C4,2 test...
[12:16] <rhanthony> sweet, wireshark is available for portableapps suite, which goes well as thats what i'm using putty and firefox through...
[12:16] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: are you familiar with ubuntu? or is this a hypothetical question?
[12:16] <NekoKun> %C4 test...
[12:16] <Myrtti> IntangibleLiquid: it'll be announced here too
[12:16] <tom_> the_alamo: Hmm... does it go to the next prompt, as if the command finished. Or does it just sort of hang?
[12:16] <zec1> just have emerald --replace start automatically
[12:17] <rhanthony> I have to admit, this is the FIRST linux help channel I've EVER actually gotten help from...
[12:17] <NekoKun> %%C
[12:17] <the_alamo> tom_, yes it goes to the next prompt
[12:17] <Myrtti> rhanthony: <3
[12:17] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: i am familiar with ubuntu and debain etch an with windows networks
[12:17] <NekoKun> ¬¬ damnit
[12:17] <Myrtti> NekoKun: what are you trying?
[12:17] <rhanthony> and not just "man <topic>" or "rtfm newb" from.
[12:17] <leonbrussels> Hey I have got a problem, just dist upgraded to hardy using update manager, but with the new kernel it hangs at the USB HID driver, with the old kernel it works though
[12:17] <throe> it says the kernel is read-only, and cant start X
[12:17] <dellph> hello ppl!!!
[12:17] <NekoKun> Myrtii: to use text color in ChatZilla :p
[12:17] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: i am systems administrator at an unniversity institute...:)
[12:17] <throe> dellph| helo
[12:17] <tom_> the_alamo: Okay. Have you tried moving ~/.mozilla, so it's as if it's a fresh install? 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup' for example?
[12:18] <dellph> is 8.04 out?
[12:18] <Myrtti> NekoKun: this channel is +c so you wouldn't see it here anyway
[12:18] <Myrtti> dellph: no
[12:18] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:18] <tom_> dellph: No. Read /topic.
[12:18] <NekoKun> >_<
[12:18] <rhanthony> << just got his 7.1 working tonight, going to wait a bit before rocking the boat.
[12:18] <thefish> rhanthony, remember that when you are a 1337 H4x0r and someone asks you for help ;)
[12:18] <Myrtti> rhanthony: 7.10
[12:18] <dellph> tom_, Thanks!
[12:18] <gordslater> well, "true" networking is same, eg: TCPIP, DNS same, concet are the same, maybe I'm missing your point
[12:18] <Myrtti> 7 for 2007 and 10 for October
[12:18] <gordslater> concepts{
[12:18] <rhanthony> thefish: i always give help when/where i can...
[12:18] <IntangibleLiquid> well, I see the IM thing on Facebook
[12:18] <throe> anybody got roaming mode and wireless working in hardy?
[12:18] <farchord> rhanthony: yeah me I got a good working copy of 7.10, wondering if I should upgrade, last two times I did it scrapped my install
[12:19] <rhanthony> Myrtti: 7.10 ... I was being lazy :P
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[12:19] <Myrtti> thefish, rhanthony: I started out on 4.10 and since then I've been working for two FLOSS companies :-)
[12:19] <the_alamo> tom_, i may have done something like that a long time ago when i was attempting to install beta 3 on gutsy.  should i do it again (and what exactly should i do)
[12:19] <rhanthony> man, this will sooooo help me feel better about doing my side work from the office.
[12:19] <thefish> Myrtti, paid work?
[12:19] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: how sahll i say im looking for different network designs including descritions of advantages and disadvantages, including some nice grafics to present to the boss...
[12:19] <Myrtti> thefish: sure
[12:20] <Myrtti> thefish: http://www.coss.fi http://www.nomovok.com
[12:20] <thefish> Myrtti, damn nice :)
[12:20] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: aha i see
[12:20] <simonova> ubuntu.com is feeling the strain of all the people watching it... I'm pinging it at 1100 - 1500 ms
[12:20]  * N3bunel saluta
[12:20] <thefish> Myrtti, gimmeh a job!
[12:20] <Myrtti> simonova: then don't stress it more and STOP PINGING IT
[12:20] <leonbrussels> anybody on my USB HID driver problem?
[12:20] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: got some aces up your sleeve?
[12:20] <gordslater> <fx|RabBitt> well, the problem is, LOL, it should/might "just work"
[12:20] <tom_> the_alamo: Yes. Firefox looks in the directory ~/.mozilla for all your preferences. there could be compatibility errors, so let's just move ~/.mozilla somewhere else, so firefox doesn't read it.
[12:20] <virdiq> simonova: the problem is at your end
[12:20] <Myrtti> thefish: keep on trying ;-)
[12:21] <thefish> hehe
[12:21] <rhanthony> Myrtti: you should change teh topic to "8.04 RELEASE DELAYED UNTIL YOU STOP ASKING FOR IT.  THIS MEANS YOU.  ALL OF YOU."
[12:21] <tom_> the_alamo: basically, run 'mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup' then try '/usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu'
[12:21] <the_alamo> tom_, okay. i will give it a go.
[12:21] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: it will work thats not my problem, my problem is to transport the info and i dont wanna write it all by myself gg
[12:21] <J_P> hi all
[12:21] <tom_> J_P: hello
[12:21] <Myrtti> there's been a whole two minutes I think now without no one asking
[12:21] <virdiq> J_P: hi, it isn't released yet :)
[12:21] <Myrtti> maybe even three
[12:21] <rhanthony> Myrtti: when does 8.04 come out?
[12:21] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: i suggest a practical demonstration, that will please the boss more, linux how-to's tend to be pretty boring to point-haired bosses you see
[12:21] <rhanthony> :)
[12:21] <motin_0> how do I reset my apt-get settings to how they where when I installed ubuntu? I think some script has been changing various settings and apt-get is telling me about hundreds of packages that needs to be modified
[12:21] <J_P> people, what page show whats all nickname  with relation with number, 8.04 for example..
[12:21] <Amaranth> !isitout
[12:21] <Myrtti> virdiq: ^ :-P
[12:22] <farchord> c'mon people stop pinging and asking.... read the topic, and I'm 200% sure people will freak out in here once it gets released, so you will know.
[12:22] <fx|RabBitt> Myrtti: ok ill do you the favor: when is hady coming?
[12:22] <Amaranth> ubotu died
[12:22] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:22] <Myrtti> ^^
[12:22] <rhanthony> lol
[12:22] <Myrtti> so please stop asking
[12:22] <JuJuBee> How do I clear the entire routing table other than a bunch of route del commands?
[12:22] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: its gonna be more like a slideshow ya know...
[12:22] <Myrtti> we're already about 150 hours late
[12:22] <farchord> Myrtti: Everytime you ask for 8.04, god delays it by 45 minutes. So please, think of the poor n00bs.
[12:22] <the_alamo> tom_, i did this: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_backup08-04-24.
[12:22] <farchord> :D
[12:22] <volvox> I'd like to thank the Ubuntu release people -- of behalf of all those, like me, that had to deploy "debian testing" servers in the past. You made our job far easier :)
[12:22] <IntangibleLiquid> if that's true then it will be released tomorrow
[12:23] <dellph> 8.04 is out!
[12:23] <gordslater>  fx|RabBitt: maybe install ubuntu with wudi for a demo, (windows installer for ubuntu) and just put it into a projector//ah i see
[12:23] <dellph> i can be downloaded
[12:23] <IntangibleLiquid> where?
[12:23] <gordslater> wubi#
[12:23] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:23] <rhanthony> << wants to delay it until august.
[12:23] <virdiq> dellph: ask Myrtti, he knows where to get it :p
[12:23] <alienbrain> JuJuBee, try sudo ip route flush
[12:23] <dtamas> twitter client to ubuntu?
[12:23] <sedra> damn it
[12:23] <tom_> the_alamo: Okay, now run '/usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu'. It will hopefully run as a fresh profile.
[12:23] <NekoKun> rhanthony: why?
[12:24] <bobbob1016> This has probably been asked a lot today, but would it be better to do "dist-upgrade" or install from a CD?  I have my homedir on another partition, I'm just wondering of a clean install of / would be better than an upgrade, more so for a non-LTS to an LTS.
[12:24] <DracoZA> im pretty sure the internet is getting slower...
[12:24] <J_P> 8.04 = hardy ?
[12:24] <gordslater>  fx|RabBitt: actually you have a good point, a commercial-grade demo slideshow done by Canonical would be really good idea
[12:24] <rhanthony> 8.04 is available for download at : http://www.microsoft.com/vista
[12:24] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: uhuh i havent heard about a windows installer for ubuntu yet, whats that supposed to be?
[12:24] <NeT_DeMoN> how would i overclock my processor with this set of hardware http://pastebin.ca/995645 ?
[12:24] <dellph> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/
[12:24] <Myrtti> bobbob1016: first of all, dist-upgrade is a bad idea, use update-manager -c
[12:24] <stdin> that's NOT official yet
[12:24] <Myrtti> /me takes her big orange Ubuntu-Release-Day CANNON and points at dellph
[12:24] <the_alamo> tom_, that did it!!  so it should run like usual now?
[12:24] <farchord> rhanthony: roflmao
[12:24] <skep> dellph: its not official yet
[12:24] <rhanthony> NekoKun: cause... I would find it funny :P
[12:24] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: i aggree on that
[12:24] <tom_> the_alamo: Yes, though you have lost your bookmarks, plugins etc.
[12:25] <rhanthony> Honestly, I didnt even know there was a new distro update coming out :P
[12:25] <NekoKun> rhanthony: Well... 8.08 would be cool indeed...
[12:25] <dawynn> What is the Hardy way to set the system's default monitor resolution?  This is no longer in "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[12:25] <Myrtti> PLEASE DO NOT POST URLS TO ANY OF THE DOWNLOAD SITES YET SINCE THE ANNOUNCMENT ISN'T DONE BY THE RELEASE MANAGERS YET
[12:25] <Myrtti> HARDY ISN'T OUT YET
[12:25] <ironic_isnt_it> k got coffee. running on a caffein high. can i get some help?
[12:25] <jtravnick> ok if hardy isnt released yet what am i downloading? it says ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:25] <JuJuBee> alienbrain : "ip route flush" requires arguments , any idea what?
[12:25] <rhanthony> Hell... this morning I had 6.10 trying to install... but had the wrong kind of disc (dvd, no dvd drive!)... so had to download a new iso and got 7.10... didnt even see 8.04 coming out :P
[12:25] <the_alamo> tom_, half the fun is installing that stuff!! (and my bookmarks are online).  thank you. i am so happy it is working.
[12:25] <gordslater>  fx|RabBitt: wubi is a windows program to install ubuntu, not sure of latest moves in its development, but it adds "ubuntu" to your windows boot.ini menu list, essentially giving you multiboot
[12:25] <krappe> NeT_DeMoN, have you tried looking in your bios for overclocking options and stuff?  I believe it's not specific to ubuntu, rather to your bios/motherboard
[12:25] <tom_> the_alamo: You could probably fish them out from .mozilla, for example, ~/.mozilla_backup08-04-24/firefox/fjsdkfj.default/bookmarks.html
[12:25] <Myrtti> jtravnick: nothing official
[12:25] <sedra> WHY not yet i'm downloading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:26] <rhanthony> I just came in for ssh tunnel help...
[12:26] <tom_> the_alamo: ah okay. Online bookmarks, good idea.
[12:26] <Myrtti> sedra: It's not official yet!
[12:26] <tom_> the_alamo: Well, glad it's working :)
[12:26] <rhanthony> and now emj, and thefish are in my will....
[12:26] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: so that would basically be a grub replacement?
[12:26] <virdiq> DracoZA: the internet isn't getting slower yet... Ubuntu torrents only have 4gbps in the pool at the moment
[12:26] <bobbob1016> Myrtti, Ok, thanks, I'll figure it out, you seem to have your hands full...
[12:26] <thefish> :)
[12:26] <emj> rhanthony:  I'll settle for first born..
[12:26] <rhanthony> cause they pwn'd my conundrum
[12:26] <sedra> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:26] <jtravnick> Myrtti, got it from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[12:26] <virdiq> DracoZA: not scientifically measured of course...
[12:26] <tom_> the_alamo: That's usually a good thing to try whenever something stops working, especially when going from major versions.
[12:26] <IntangibleLiquid> what's the point of using twitter if none of your friends does?
[12:26] <alienbrain> JuJuBee, the man says "SELECTOR"
[12:26] <NeT_DeMoN> krappe: bios as in at the boot screen you press F12 or something like that?
[12:26] <rhanthony> emj: you can have my first and second... i dont want them anymore.
[12:26] <emj> rhanthony: have fun!
[12:26] <thefish> rhanthony, have you installed wireshark yet?
[12:26] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: wubi-installer.org   for the site, well, instead of grub it uses the native windows bootloader
[12:26] <sedra> isnt official??
[12:26] <dna_> hmm usually the documentation gets released at the first day or later on?
[12:26] <Pici> NO
[12:27] <Myrtti> jtravnick: it's NOT OFFICIAL UNTIL ANNOUNCED
[12:27] <racerfx> http://ubuntu.ipacct.com/releases/8.04/
[12:27] <rhanthony> emj: they should fetch a decent price in mexico, fyi hint hint
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[12:27] <alienbrain> JuJuBee, it depends on your case, here are your options: SELECTOR := [ root PREFIX ] [ match PREFIX ] [ exact PREFIX ] [ table TABLE_ID ] [ proto RTPROTO ] [ type TYPE ] [ scope SCOPE ]
[12:27] <Myrtti> so DON'T POST THOSE URLS
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[12:27] <Myrtti> OR BE KICKED
[12:27] <cousin_luigi> hi
[12:27] <bobbob1016> sedra, Every time you ask when it is coming out, or why you don't have it yet, they push it back 45 minutes.
[12:27] <rhanthony> thefish: waiting for it to d/l... slow ass 802.11b.
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[12:27] <cousin_luigi> does update-manager -c work from gutsy?
[12:27] <krappe> NeT_DeMoN, yeah, well it might or might not be F12, every motherboard has a different key, but it usually says "Press <somekey> to enter SETUP"
[12:27] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: which is also not too hard to do if you know how to manipulate the boot.ini...
[12:27] <the_alamo> tom_, i will copy and paste your advice so that i don't loose it.  thanks again.
[12:27] <Myrtti> bobbob1016: 42
[12:27] <sedra> KICK ME and go to hell
[12:27] <motin_0> how do I reset my apt-get settings to how they where when I installed ubuntu? I think some script has been changing various settings and apt-get is telling me about hundreds of packages that needs to be modified
[12:27] <tom_> the_alamo: np
[12:27] <krappe> NeT_DeMoN, I also recommend you look for overclocking tutorials on google
[12:27] <NeT_DeMoN> krappe: alright, thanks
[12:27] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: i also think its standard in ubuntu releases now, maybe someone can confirm that?
[12:27] <virdiq> bobbob1016: hmmm, so the amount it is pushed back increases exponentially each time? :)
[12:27] <farchord> rhanthony: no biggie though, the upgrade will be so slow.... hoping they'll allow us to upgrade from a mirror
[12:27] <Myrtti> /me takes out her emp cannon and points at sedra
[12:27] <NeT_DeMoN> krappe: ok, thanks
[12:27] <rhanthony> thefish: using an old 11mbps card, so i can use the mac id off of it, traffic not traced to internal wifi for this laptop :) hehehe
[12:27] <thefish> Myrtti, is there an official torrent to post the link to - might stop some of the braying
[12:27] <Myrtti> *BWUUUUUP*
[12:28] <krappe> NeT_DeMoN, I suggest you overclock in small steps
[12:28] <JuJuBee> alienbrain: so if I want to flush the Kernel IP routing table, then what to I enter for selector? table kernel ?
[12:28] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: you mean they droped grub? i dont believe a siongel word you say XD
[12:28] <Pici> thefish: Theres no torrent link because theres no release announcement.
[12:28] <darkfritz2> how should i make my partitions in a case that i crash totally the ubuntu system? because in windows u make 1 partition for the system (in case that happens something) and other partitions for saving data...
[12:28] <NeT_DeMoN> krappe: alright
[12:28] <icesword> when they said don't post urls, most likely they would be frightened that site will be down, and now i am guesising they are offering other sites for mirrors
[12:28] <bobbob1016> virdiq, I was mistaken, someone else said 45, I thought longer was more, but 42 is the answer...
[12:28] <Myrtti> thefish: there is no such thing as official until the mail is sent to ubuntu-announce mailing list
[12:28] <alienbrain> JuJuBee, proto kernel
[12:28] <JuJuBee> K thanks.
[12:28] <ironic_isnt_it> man what an attitude. ill just wait for it in updates
[12:28] <bobbob1016> darkfritz2, I always have my /home on a separate partition from /
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[12:29] <thefish> Pici, Myrtti i see, difficult to see anything else except the "where is my iso" hysteria!
[12:29] <rhanthony> thefish: installing
[12:29] <gordslater>  fx|RabBitt: yes of course, u can edit by hand, the wubi idea is to download (if needed) and install on an ntfs drive , auto-configure the loader, as a quick way for win-users to try/get ub
[12:29] <Myrtti> thefish: indeed
[12:29] <icesword> Myrtti, so is it
[12:29] <benmachine> this is madness
[12:29] <IntangibleLiquid> it will take another two hours to get the iso off the internet :( tomorrow then
[12:29] <rhanthony> If I get this working and proven, I'm going to post up an ssh tunnel thread on the ubuntu forums about it... with EXACTLY what to do.
[12:29] <Myrtti> thefish: It's almost three o'clock and I've barely eaten my breakfast since I have to babysit you fellers
[12:29] <Myrtti> :-P
[12:29] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: i cant see the enhancement to installing ubuntu and useing grub afterwards XD
[12:29] <NekoKun> rhanthony: Poor Myrtii... people are driving her crazy :-/
[12:29] <gordslater>  fx|RabBitt: haha no grub is normal/standard, except for the wubi method, for noobie win-users to try it out
[12:30] <IntangibleLiquid> tonight, we'll dine in hell
[12:30] <rhanthony> Myrtti: 3am ? or pm?
[12:30] <Myrtti> /me notes no mail yet
[12:30] <Myrtti> rhanthony: pm
[12:30] <icesword> Myrtti, so that is it? you are offering other sites for mirrors?
[12:30] <aoito> ver libres.irc-hispano.org
[12:30] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: exept its kinda hard to get rid of grub if you dont wanna have ubuntu anymore and have no supergrub disc gg
[12:30] <rhanthony> Myrtti: where?
[12:30] <Myrtti> rhanthony: home of Linux
[12:30]  * farchord sends Myrtti a big cup of e-coffee with a marshmallow on top and sprinkles.
[12:30] <rhanthony> Myrtti: ah... well hello from sunny southern california.
[12:31] <WhereIsNewBuntu> hmmm... http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ are this files final (non-RC)?
[12:31] <Myrtti> no
[12:31] <stdin> no
[12:31] <Pici> WhereIsNewBuntu: no
[12:31] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: yeah tellmeabout it LOL. yeah for a work-demo i'd look into wubi, its non-destructive (for me anyways) and plays well with windows
[12:31] <benmachine> no
[12:31] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:31] <icesword> lol
[12:31] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: btw if youre interested in it webmin has a nice grafical interface to grub...
[12:31] <rhanthony> thefish: wireshark portable installed, opening and trying now
[12:31] <icesword> so many noes?
[12:31] <thefish> rhanthony, cool
[12:31]  * emj wants to say yes so badly.. :-)
[12:31] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: well thx for the hint anyways:)
[12:31] <Myrtti> it's an "oh noes" situation
[12:31] <farchord> Myrtti: we're at what now, 12 days, 7 hours, 15 minutes of delay?
[12:31] <cryptolife> hello from Croatia
[12:31] <ironic_isnt_it> are there any other ubuntu channels i can take my question to? i see u guys are shorthanded
[12:31] <Myrtti> 12 days is close
[12:31] <Pici> farchord: Theres no delay
[12:31] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: ah most of my boxes are single-use debian or ub anyways
[12:32] <farchord> Pici: oh comeon I can't believe you catched on to that
[12:32] <rhanthony> ewwww.
[12:32] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: now for something completely different; what about those linux networks? gg
[12:32] <thefish> rhanthony, make sure you are setup to use socks in ff, then start capturing on your main NIC with WS. Once its running, browse a bit, then stop the capture
[12:32] <bobbob1016> icesword, The sites that others are posting are not official, and there is no telling what they did to the iso's, or if the iso's are actually hardy
[12:32] <gordslater> :)
[12:32] <rhanthony> WireShark portable... has to install winPcap to the c:\.... lame.
[12:32] <farchord> Pici: I shall answer this the good old fashioned internet way: ORLY?
[12:32] <tom_> Factory|Vincent: 12 days 7 hours 15 mins = 17715 minutes, which isn't divisible by 42... so definately not.
[12:32] <IntangibleLiquid> tonight, we'll dine in hell:)
[12:32] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: was just mentioning...
[12:32] <Myrtti> woot root
[12:32] <farchord> IntangibleLiquid: I would, really, but I lost my pass.
[12:33] <IntangibleLiquid> i wanted to say hello from Vietnam, then the up arrow came up
[12:33] <Myrtti> no mail yet
[12:33] <fx|RabBitt> Myrtti: whens hardy coning? :P
[12:33] <Viele-baeren> hi
[12:33] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:33] <IntangibleLiquid> another 42 minutes
[12:33] <icesword> bobbob1016, don't  forget they are official mirrors of ubuntu
[12:33] <fx|RabBitt> hahaha
[12:33] <ironic_isnt_it> u said liux servers?
[12:33] <bobbob1016> tom_, Someone half asked, a few times
[12:33] <ironic_isnt_it> linux
[12:33] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: i better hand u over to the rest, -- looking for a slideshow-type presentsation to illustrate "benefits of linux networking" to point-haired bosses - anyone help fx|RabBitt ?
[12:33]  * tom_ gets out his calculator... again.
[12:33] <tom_> or not.
[12:34] <farchord> gordslater: 1- It's free.
[12:34] <rhanthony> wireshark isn't picking up any packets
[12:34] <bobbob1016> icesword, I mean people are giving urls, that claim to have it, but since it isn't out yet, they can't and don't
[12:34] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: doenst have to be a slideshow i can compose that myself, just looking for some graphics, flow diagrams n stuff
[12:34] <thefish> rhanthony, nothing at all?
[12:34] <rhanthony> when i select the interface it says it is.... hit start on caputre... goes to "no packets"  wtf...
[12:34] <thefish> rhanthony, if it sees nothing, then you have the wrong interface
[12:34] <bobbob1016> tom_, 42/2 = 21, 21*5 = 105
[12:34] <icesword> hahahhaha
[12:34] <rhanthony> it's the only one with an IP.
[12:35] <rhanthony> it's the cisco card i'm using, shows this networks ip...
[12:35] <rhanthony> and ... it's not even picking up this ssh ...
[12:35] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: good point by farchord, its so simple u could do it yourself WITHOUT fancy flowcharts
[12:35] <thefish> rhanthony, and you start a capture and nothing happens?
[12:35] <Falc> Biggest channel on FreeNode! :D
[12:35] <rhanthony> but in the "select interface" screen, it shows packets flowing... doesn't when i actually start the capture...
[12:35] <rhanthony> yeah
[12:35] <kbrooks> um
[12:35] <Myrtti> NO IT'S NOT OUT YET, PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY LINKS YET
[12:35] <ironic_isnt_it> im gonna check a few other channels if no better results ill come back here deal
[12:35] <kbrooks> i have a question
[12:35] <Myrtti> ironic_isnt_it: deal
[12:35] <thefish> rhanthony, maybe you dont have "update list in real time"
[12:35] <Frozenball> Why te release isn't available yet?
[12:35] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt:i mean, its just the same really, just emphasise the "free" and using existing equipment"
[12:35] <Frozenball> *the
[12:35] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:36] <kbrooks> i want to remove openoffice.org
[12:36] <icesword> bobbob1016, any idea who wll have to honor to announce
[12:36] <virdiq> Frozenball: we're waiting 42 minutes for it
[12:36] <thefish> rhanthony, try stop the capture, then see if you get some packets
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[12:36] <kbrooks> how do i do that?
[12:36] <icesword> to/the
[12:36] <rhanthony> stopping shows "no packets"
[12:36] <grzyb> Seveas, are you around ?
[12:36] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt:maybe wikipedia will have some nice diagrams of X11 server-client things if u must have graphics
[12:36] <thefish> rhanthony, do you have an "any" device
[12:36] <Dr_Link> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:36] <Dr_Link> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:36] <Dr_Link> While trying to apt-get a package, those were errors returned.
[12:37] <Dr_Link> What's going on?
[12:37] <thefish> rhanthony, dunno if you get that on win, but its a "capture from wherever you can" pseudo-device
[12:37] <stdin> !aptfix
[12:37] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:37] <Myrtti> Dr_Link: quit synaptic, quit update manager
[12:37] <terminal_dude> hey guyz need some advise? is it better of fresh install of 8.04 or is it safe and prey much same as upgrade distro ?
[12:37] <kbrooks> Dr_Link, close other packages
[12:37] <bobbob1016> icesword, I'm just refreshing the homepage
[12:37] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: hehehe that is basically not the point i am not convincing anybody to skip to ubnutnu from windows as we are currently also using linux, the point is to explain the infrastructure so that they know what my plan is and what i am doing for them;)
[12:37] <Pici> Dr_Link: You need to use sudo as well
[12:37] <Frozenball> I'm not whining, I'm just wondering the release isn't done in more profesional way
[12:37] <fserve> Linux ubuntu-server 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:37] <kbrooks> Pici, he did
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[12:37] <Pici> !f5
[12:37] <ubotu> Remember that every time you hit refresh, Canonical is wasting money, bandwidth, and CPU time serving your request instead of doing useful things like uploading the image or paying for ShipIt disks.  Please do so sparingly.
[12:37] <Dr_Link> Pici: I didn't say I wasn't using sudo. ;)
[12:37] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: yeah i get you now
[12:37] <kbrooks> Frozenball, ummm
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[12:37] <Pici> Dr_Link: I didnt say I read it completely either
[12:37] <icesword> bobbob1016, yaaa, that is a nice news
[12:37] <kbrooks> Frozenball, "more professional"?
[12:37] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: well its boring without graphics and its exhausting to produce them yourself...
[12:37] <bobbob1016> icesword, Myrtti would be a good person to know too, I'd guess
[12:37] <IntangibleLiquid> i'm getting dizzy
[12:38] <Dr_Link> I see, the update manager was working.
[12:38] <Frozenball> Like getting the release out in 0.00 am
[12:38] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: I'd trawl wikipedia for graphics, most of the diagrams have copyright data so just use th GLP'd or similar ones :)
[12:38] <Frozenball> The latest release candicate should be the latest version?
[12:38] <IntangibleLiquid> chatzilla is nice
[12:39] <Frozenball> Or are they going to release another "rc"
[12:39] <kbrooks> Frozenball, umm, 12 am is arbitrary. the time that a release is out does not indicate whether a company is professional. therefore that isn't a valid metric
[12:39] <danbhfive> Dr_Link: did you just boot?  I believe there is a cron task or something that runs a check for updates at boot time
[12:39] <cousin_luigi> how do I upgrade?
[12:39] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: maybe x11, samba,   whatever else you use
[12:39] <Myrtti> Frozenball: no, the final release is done today though
[12:39] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: pleas dont be mad at me for mentioning but i give a s***about copyright for that presentation gg
[12:39] <kbrooks> Frozenball, by asking that question, you're tricking others
[12:39] <danbhfive> sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <danbhfive> oops
[12:39] <danbhfive> wc
[12:39] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: no probs :)
[12:39] <kbrooks> !language | fx|RabBitt
[12:39] <ubotu> fx|RabBitt: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[12:39] <pirats> hello
[12:39] <Myrtti> no, it's not out yet
[12:40] <hanumankatuwal> still not released :(
[12:40] <``Cube> WOOT this is cheating, it has been written that 8.04 will come today!?!?!
[12:40] <sja> hello, all! im have problem with update my desktop 710 to 804. first line 'begin to install' (sorry, im have russian version) - loading packets, and say: 'download ened' and window stand darkness. what is it?
[12:40] <Myrtti> ``Cube: it's hardly even 24th in Samoa
[12:40] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: samba, nfs, kolab, amavisd, iptables, nx-server, sshd, etc etc
[12:40] <MmikeWRK> ``Cube, it's still today! :)
[12:40] <kbrooks> ``Cube, it will, be patient
[12:40] <Frozenball> I want to encrypt my partition already :/
[12:40] <bdubnc> my opinion is, it's free, you don't pay for it, so what is the problem with waiting,  If it takes them another day, so be it
[12:40] <fx|RabBitt> kbrooks: gosh i watched man i asterisked that word:P
[12:40] <Zargath> hi, I got an Ubuntu Server. doing some ssh tunnel port forwarding. Getting "Server has disabled port forwarding". Anybody know where/how to enable it?
[12:40] <thefish> sja, you see nothing on the screen?
[12:40] <Myrtti> Frozenball: you've been able to do it since Gutsy
[12:40] <kbrooks> fx|RabBitt, we still knew
[12:40] <``Cube> ah ok ;) I got answered by 3 people in 10 seconds, nice ;)
[12:40] <Myrtti> Frozenball: since who knows
[12:40] <edhelas> hye
[12:40] <``Cube> well, but it will come today?
[12:41] <cousin_luigi> danbhfive: I mean release upgrade
[12:41] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: aha,, yeah i reckon you could together a lot of stuff from wikipedia diagrams alone
[12:41] <thefish> Zargath, /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server
[12:41] <freep> Zargath: Should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[12:41] <bobbob1016> ``Cube, Every exclamation and question mark you add pushes the release back 42 minutes
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> kbrooks: that is because youre smart;)
[12:41] <_nano_> When they said 24th, what time zone were they referring to?
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> hahaha
[12:41] <Pici> _nano_: none
[12:41] <floating> hi. i want to extend my ext3 partition where my xubuntu install is. however there is swap space right after the xubuntu install. can i remove the swap space and ext3 over it, and make new swap space after that ? would do that with partition magic8 in windows
[12:41] <sja> thefish, no. widnow of update manager stand dark - other normal.
[12:41] <``Cube> bobbob1016: did I request a bad joke?
[12:41] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: ya? where man??
[12:41] <danbhfive> cousin_luigi: what?  when did you mean upgrade?
[12:41] <kbrooks> fx|RabBitt, okay.
[12:41] <Zargath> thefish, freep: Know what setting ?
[12:41] <thefish> sja, it has been dark for some time?
[12:41] <WildChild7> hello there
[12:42] <gordslater> floating: use caution with partitionmagic8 or similar
[12:42] <_nano_> I think right now every time zone is in 24th
[12:42] <WildChild7> where could I find any hardware list supprt for UPSs ?
[12:42] <kbrooks> i need openoffice.org removed
[12:42] <Pici> _nano_: Its not out yet, theres no speicific time on the 24th that the release is
[12:42] <``Cube> bobbob1016: or did I just ask something? here: ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! gonna be 30x42 = 21h
[12:42] <sja> thefish, the dark 15 minutes, and no progress :) first line is checked :((((
[12:42] <bobbob1016> ``Cube, No, just out of good ones.  Everyone is asking, or putting needless punctuation at the end of their sentences now.  Or a lot of people
[12:42] <cousin_luigi> danbhfive: from gutsy to hardy
[12:42] <IntangibleLiquid> which timezone is the release based on?
[12:42] <harfg> hullo
[12:42] <kbrooks> can someone help me remove openoffice.org?
[12:42] <_nano_> Pici: thanks
[12:43] <nabcore> IntangibleLiquid: UBT
[12:43] <bobbob1016> ``Cube, 21 hours on top of the 12 days already
[12:43] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: start with wikipedia for "X11" - user's workstation diagram
[12:43] <``Cube> bobbob1016: hehe ok ;) you replied nice to my offensive statement, I like that, and oh im sorry for asking (seriously)
[12:43] <Pici> nabcore: :D
[12:43] <kbrooks> I don't want or need it
[12:43] <thefish> sja, ok looks like it has stopped
[12:43] <teo-> i can't start ubuntu :S when i try to boot it some busy box shell is starting please help!?
[12:43] <fx|RabBitt> floating: if you get errors and part mag tells it can repair it DO NOT DO THAT IT KILLS THE OTHER INSTASLLATIONS AND LEAVES Y>OU WITH WIN ALLONE!!!
[12:43] <ikerc> why my manager -C + update 's no upgrade ?
[12:43] <Pici> kbrooks: Whats stopping you from removing it with synaptic?
[12:43] <Pici> ikerc: Hardy is not released yet
[12:43] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: then maybe try the "see also" link near bottom of the wiki pages
[12:43] <bobbob1016> ``Cube, No problem, I don't mean to be offensive with it, just saying everyone is asking
[12:43] <IntangibleLiquid> can
[12:43] <IntangibleLiquid> cant find UBT on google
[12:43] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: maybe u can just grab striking diagrams and cobble them toigether
[12:44] <icesword> see see see
[12:44] <Myrtti> ikerc: because it's not officially announced yet
[12:44] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: hehehe k buddy i realize im quite on my own, so i gotta dig trough:]
[12:44] <``Cube> bobbob1016: you seem to be good @ linux, could you tell me why my NVIDIA card stopped working and I can't use any res higher than 800x600? when I try to delete it, it gives me an error. oh and I mean I WAS OFFENSIVE, not you :)
[12:44] <sja> thefish, its trouble of my computer or server ?
[12:44] <icesword> let 's see who will have the hornor to annouce that
[12:44] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: thanx tho;)
[12:44] <kbrooks> Pici, ummm
[12:44] <harfg> Does Any one know how to tame flumotion and M-ADUIO Delta 410
[12:44] <thefish> sja, can you open a terminal, and in there type "sudo tail /var/log/apt/term.log"
[12:44] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt: yeah like i say canonical need to make a business presentation for "conversions"
[12:44] <harfg> or does any one know the support channel for Flumotion?
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: as i said i definitely agree on that
[12:45] <kbrooks> Pici, i removed it,, but i'm concerned about language-support-en. is it necessary if i know and read english, or?
[12:45] <IntangibleLiquid> should an integrated intel card work fine with desktop effectS?
[12:45] <``Cube> bobbob1016: well, forget the last question: when I want to install ubuntu on windows with WUBI, can I instal linux on the other partition, and where I can get the WUBI version from?
[12:45] <gordslater> fx|RabBitt:a slide show or something, like you need, or maybe a video
[12:45] <Myrtti> THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCMENT OF HARDY HERON YET, SO PLEASE, DO NOT POST ANY DOWNLOAD LINKS, DO NOT HIT REFRESH ON UBUNTU SITES AND PLEASE, BE *PATIENT*
[12:45] <``Cube> lol ok, nevermind, bobbob1016
[12:45] <fx|RabBitt> gordslater: or a flow diagram with integration schemes
[12:45] <Frozenball> Why download links are forbidden? :&
[12:45] <thefish> sja, please paste the last line of that here
[12:45] <Pici> kbrooks: language-support-en is a metapackage that depends on all the other english language packs.
[12:46] <IntangibleLiquid> Myrtti: think you should make it the channel topic :)
[12:46] <fx|RabBitt> Myrtti: are you exited?
[12:46] <bobbob1016> ``Cube, I have to go now, I have a final to get to in a few hours.  I don't know if you can install Wubi on another partition, but the normal LiveCD should have Wubi, or so I've heard.
[12:46] <Pici> IntangibleLiquid: No one reads the topic
[12:46] <sja> thefish, http://rafb.net/p/dKVUF849.html
[12:46] <Myrtti> Frozenball: because they'll steal bandwidth from the mirror sites getting the image and thus make the announcment really really postponed
[12:46] <farchord> Myrtti: Patience? Don't you think you are exagerating? <.<
[12:47] <harfg> hmmmm
[12:47] <k1> hello, I am trying to find out iso for latest ubuntu hardi
[12:47] <Myrtti> please save the bandwidth for the mirrors until the official release
[12:47] <farchord> hahaha
[12:47] <Myrtti> k1: it's not out yet
[12:47] <kbrooks> what's the command to get the package which installed a file, say /usr/games/blackjack
[12:47] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:47] <rhanthony> thefish: wireshark sees packets going through the card, but wont show them in the live capture.
[12:47] <orochi_> Myrtti: What about the torrent? That's not stealing bandwidth from anyone
[12:47] <thefish> sja, ok that doesnt look too bad
[12:47] <k1> ubuntu.com/downloads is still showing 7.10
[12:47] <Pici> Its not out yet.
[12:47] <Myrtti> orochi_: it's useless since it's not official yet
[12:47] <thefish> rhanthony, see if there is a tickbox for "update in real time" or something like that
[12:47] <icesword> Myrtti, haha, that is really you worried
[12:47] <zash> kbrooks: dpkg --listfiles <filename>
[12:47] <farchord> orochi_: where do you think the bandwidth comes from when noone shares?
[12:47] <harfg> !! does any one know the support channel for Flumotion?
[12:47] <IntangibleLiquid> Myrtti: I dont get it. the isos will be downloaded anyway so how can the bandwidth be saved?
[12:47] <kbrooks> zash, is there a shorter option?
[12:48] <sja> thefish, im need in waiting for server to free ?
[12:48] <thefish> sja, in the terminal, please type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:48] <harfg> how can a MAUDIO not be properly tested
[12:48] <Myrtti> IntangibleLiquid: the bandwidth saved for the mirrors to get them
[12:48]  * harfg smashed him self of a RLL harddisk
[12:48] <orochi_> farchord: There's currently quite a few people sharing that I can see so your point is moot in this case
[12:48] <zash> kbrooks: iduno, that is pretty short i think
[12:48] <ikerc> here an administrator from dns to FR.arch.ubuntu.com ?  becaune all the time no ok, because oleoane server should be on windows !!
[12:48] <kbrooks> zash, -L, found it
[12:48] <rhanthony> thefish: promiscuous mode must be OFF... fixed.
[12:48] <thefish> sja, i dont think so no, it looks local - otherwise you would have a download timeout error
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[12:48] <zash> kbrooks: or did that list files in a package?
[12:48] <spaceninja> what's new in 8.04?
[12:48] <nabcore> IntangibleLiquid: I think the point is that the bandwidth is need a priori to get the iso onto the mirrors
[12:49] <ikerc> Can ban ftp.oleoane  from ubuntu ..?
[12:49] <k1> is there any place where just the iso is available for hardi?  I so the torants but I want the iso
[12:49] <thefish> rhanthony, cool :) promiscuous should work fine as well, maybe you have wierd drivers for the nic or somehting :/
[12:49] <Myrtti> k1: be patient
[12:49] <kbrooks> zash, latter
[12:49] <sja> thefish, okey. im runing apt-get.. but im need to close window (dont kill normal with update)
[12:49] <IntangibleLiquid> oh ok i get it :)
[12:49]  * harfg gives ubotu a clockwork brain
[12:49] <rhanthony> thefish: still nothing in the window showing.
[12:49] <XB23> guys using rsync how would i set it up so that it backs up everything in local folder /root/pics  to /root/pics on server1.example.com ?
[12:49] <harfg> it will perform 650000000 t/flops
[12:50] <zash> kbrooks: dpkg -S file
[12:50] <Frozenball> [14:46:36] [@Myrtti] Frozenball: because they'll steal bandwidth from the mirror sites getting the image and thus make the announcment really really postponed
[12:50] <thefish> sja, you get an error when you try to run apt-get -f install? you may not have to kill the updater window yet
[12:50] <Frozenball> Are you saying that they don't have two servers for serving users and mirrors?
[12:50] <k1> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/is this the proper link for hardi ISO?  I just discovered it.ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:50] <Pici> k1: no
[12:50] <_Rambaldi_> is there a command to output to screen not just terminal?
[12:50] <Myrtti> k1: NO IT IS NOT.
[12:50] <propelhat> DL'ing 8.04 from the mirrors now. Doesn't seem to be RC
[12:50] <bazhang> I dont dare tab complete today ;]
[12:51] <kbrooks> propelhat, 8.04 IS NOT OUT
[12:51] <XB23> guys using rsync how would i set it up so that it backs up everything in local folder /root/pics  to /root/pics on server1.example.com ?
[12:51] <Myrtti> THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCMENT OF HARDY HERON YET, SO PLEASE, DO NOT POST ANY DOWNLOAD LINKS, DO NOT HIT REFRESH ON UBUNTU SITES AND PLEASE, BE *PATIENT*
[12:51] <sja> thefish, E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:51] <Pici> THE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT HAS NOT BEEN MADE YET
[12:51] <bazhang> sja close add/remove and try again
[12:51] <Frozenball> And there's torrent file there
[12:51] <thefish> sja, ok the updater has locked it - try to just close it with (X) first
[12:51] <unop> XB23, rsync -avz -e ssh /root/pics user@remotehost:/root/pics
[12:51] <gustavoimago> [   ] ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent    24-Apr-2008 08:23   28K  Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers
[12:51] <bazhang> !aptfix | sja
[12:51] <ubotu> sja: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:51] <thefish> sja, it may give an error "do you want to force quit"
[12:52] <sja> thefish, no [x], and other!
[12:52] <propelhat> kbrooks: Well, I can read your writing, but why doesn't it say anything about RC, then?
[12:52] <harfg> hrrrm help!!
[12:52] <bazhang> harfg: what is your issue
[12:52] <kbrooks> propelhat, canonical is preparing the announcement
[12:52] <Myrtti> propelhat: it's not announced yet, so it's not official no matter has it 'rc' or not
[12:52] <XB23> thankyou unop :)
[12:52] <kbrooks> propelhat, stop the download and wait
[12:52] <helvete> hey, can anyone tell me how to get any player to play .rm files
[12:52] <thefish> ubotu, not a -f first, then a reconfigure?
[12:52] <sja> thefish, im logout for resolve this problem
[12:52] <helvete> i even tried to download real player
[12:53] <harfg> Flumotion fails to work well with my M-AUDIO delta 410
[12:53] <kbrooks> thefish, ubotu is a bot
[12:53] <Pici> thefish: ubotu is a bot
[12:53] <thefish> hehe ok cool
[12:53] <Myrtti> !helix
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <Crys_> I'm looking for some docs about Ubuntu 8.04 LTS which I can give to my customers. We want them to install Ubuntu instead of SuSE or Redhat because it's much easier to deploy our software on Ubuntu then SuSE.
[12:53]  * thefish gives the bot a nice banana
[12:53] <Myrtti> !restrictedformats | helvete
[12:53] <ubotu> helvete: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <harfg> it worked with the onboard sound chip.. but now when you try and select you sound device it fowls up
[12:53] <kbrooks> Crys_, ubuntu 8.04 is not out.
[12:53] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:53] <richard> Hola!!
[12:53] <Crys_> kbrooks: I'm aware of that
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[12:53] <helvete> myrtti i have already installed the restricted formats
[12:53] <richard> Como me muevo a #ubuntu-es ??
[12:53] <kbrooks> Crys_, we're not going to help you until it is out. until then, WAIT.
[12:54] <pthreat> which locale package should i install for setlocale to work in PHP ?\
[12:54] <Crys_> kbrooks: But it's going to get out in a few hours or days
[12:54] <richard> Hola, alguien me ayuda?? :D
[12:54] <Myrtti> helvete: there's info about real media on the wikipages too
[12:54] <pthreat> richard: #ubuntu-es
[12:54] <rhanthony> thefish: it says it caught 320 packets, but wont display any :(
[12:54] <bazhang> Crys_: you might check out the ubuntuguide.org
[12:54] <richard> :)
[12:54] <un2him> ok, noob question...when i want to say something to a specific user, is there a faster way than to type their handle followed by a colon?
[12:54] <kbrooks> Crys_, you may wish to go to #ubuntu+1 if you're so impatient
[12:54] <thefish> rhanthony, is there anything in the "filter" section on top?
[12:54] <kbrooks> un2him, type part of it
[12:54] <Myrtti> !tab | un2him
[12:54] <bazhang> !sound | harfg
[12:54] <ubotu> un2him: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:54] <ubotu> harfg: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:54] <rhanthony> nothing in filter, no
[12:54] <kbrooks> un2him, then press tab
[12:54] <Crys_> kbrooks: I need the information *today* to prepare some docs for next *month*
[12:54] <un2him> kbrooks: cool! thanks!
[12:54] <QuickGold> Is Hardy coming out today?
[12:54] <rhanthony> thefish
[12:55] <rhanthony> OMG
[12:55] <Myrtti> yes
[12:55] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:55] <bazhang> QuickGold: aye
[12:55] <thefish> rhanthony
[12:55] <kbrooks> Crys_, sorry to be so conscending. did the link help you?
[12:55] <rhanthony> thefish: nothing in "filter" but still had to hit APPLY ... stewpid.
[12:55] <rhanthony> have to APPLY "no filter" for it to see things... ick.
[12:55] <Myrtti> rhanthony: mind your manners
[12:55] <gustavoimago> [   ] ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent    24-Apr-2008 08:23   28K  Desktop CD for PC (Intel x86) computers... in http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/  ??? not rc!!!
[12:55] <Crys_> kbrooks: I'm checking it out right now
[12:55] <QuickGold> bazhang: Any idea when today it will be released?
[12:55] <harfg> yea it has select the alsa mixer
[12:55] <Myrtti> /me takes her big orange Ubuntu-Release-Day CANNON and points at gustavoimago
[12:55] <XB23> unop: how do i make it so that if i delete a folder on the local machine it removes it from the remote server?
[12:55] <k1> sorry my machine just gave a problem so missed out any any answer on my question.  is http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso the right link for the final hardi image?
[12:55] <harfg> which btw only has one slider
[12:55] <thefish> rhanthony, you can use that filter to look for DNS
[12:55] <bazhang> QuickGold: sometime in the next twelve hours ;]
[12:55] <rhanthony> Myrtti: wasn't calling him stupid :) i was calling the program stupid...
[12:56] <stdin> k1: no
[12:56] <helvete> i'm already running hardy(rc), is there anything i have to do after it is released
[12:56] <QuickGold> k, thanks
[12:56] <Myrtti> k1: STOP POSTING THE URL
[12:56] <unop> XB23, --delete is the flag i believe -- but  man rsync
[12:56] <Pici> k1: The release announcement has not been made yet.
[12:56] <thefish> check both udp and tcp port 53
[12:56] <harfg> I dont have the multitrack  break out lead thing so I hope thats ok
[12:56] <bazhang> helvete: when you have updated you will be final ;]
[12:56] <rhanthony> thefish: sifting through it now... thank you so much for all your help btw.  learned alot... and found new proggies to use!
[12:56] <orochi_> Sorry but the release team would have to be pretty immature to postpone a release just because someone came in an IRC channel and asked about it :> That's either pure bs or bad management
[12:56] <XB23> unop: thanks man
[12:56] <harfg> just relying on SPDIF ports here
[12:56] <Myrtti> orochi_: you're not getting the joke then
[12:56] <bazhang> orochi_: well nothing else seems to work ;]
[12:56] <thefish> rhanthony, no worries mate - i learned about that ff config setting as well :)
[12:56] <Deckard> i think they're joking man :))
[12:56] <gordslater> Crys_: in fairness, i should point out that 500+ people an hour are joining the chanel, asking is it o*t y*t? and driving us all mad. we appreciate u need commercial documentation :)
[12:56] <Myrtti> orochi_: every time you whine, god kills a kitten, so please, think of the kittens
[12:56] <orochi_> Myrrti: Maybe because it isn't funny?
[12:57] <orochi_> Jokes usually are :>
[12:57] <robertchahine> hardy heron isn't released yet
[12:57] <Crys_> gordslater: *g*
[12:57] <HairyHardon> orochi_: But it is funny dammit!!!
[12:57] <Deckard> right
[12:57] <Myrtti> orochi_: I'm also not in a humorous mode
[12:57] <danbhfive> orochi_: with your comments, its becoming allot funnier :p
[12:57] <erot1con> when is ubuntu 8.04 being released?
[12:57] <Crys_> gordslater / kbrooks: ok, now I understand why your answer sounds so cranky ;)
[12:57] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[12:57] <Pici> erot1con: when its done
[12:57] <bazhang> erot1con: sometime today
[12:57] <XB23> hmm on the remote machine it creates another directory
[12:57] <kbrooks> Crys_, why?
[12:57] <harfg> ha
[12:57] <icesword> when when when
[12:57] <IntangibleLiquid> erot1con thats another 42 minutes
[12:57] <obsethryl> Myrtti: let's see, this way one can postpone it to infinity
[12:57] <robertchahine> hello there?
[12:57] <obsethryl> cool
[12:58] <icesword> why cannot you guys wait for a while
[12:58] <Pici> icesword: stop
[12:58] <Crys_> kbrooks: <gordslater> Crys_: in fairness, i should point out that 500+ people an hour are joining the chanel, asking is it o*t y*t? and driving us all mad. we appreciate u need commercial documentation :)
[12:58] <harfg> ok im gona bring in 20 random nick bots and make them ask
[12:58] <sja> thefish,  sudo apt-get -f install = no effect, 0 install, update and delete
[12:58] <gordslater> what?
[12:58] <Pici> harfg: okay, have fun with the ban then
[12:58] <icesword> Pici, no, don't take me wrong
[12:58] <gordslater> eh? i typed that again?
[12:58] <thefish> sja, ok thats cool
[12:58] <harfg> heh
[12:58] <marx2k> I'll let you guys do the early release adoption... I'll wait a week or so :D
[12:58] <harfg> how do you know they were bots
[12:58] <robertchahine> a lot of people here!
[12:58] <thefish> sja, now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:58] <sja> thefish, oke
[12:58] <XB23> rsync -avz -e ssh /root/webroot/test root@helix.surventrix.com:/root/webroot   <- it works but on the remote machine it places the file in  /root/webroot/test/test and not /root/webroot/test any idea why that would be?
[12:58] <thefish> sja, you were upgrading to 8.04, or just an update?
[12:58] <erot1con> in 42 minutes is it being released you say?
[12:58] <Crys_> gordslater: nevermind :]
[12:59] <robertchahine> sync -avz -e ssh /root/webroot/test root@helix.surventrix.com:/root/webroot
[12:59] <arj> XB23: use a trailing /
[12:59] <kbrooks> orochi_, are you on?
[12:59] <G-Ubuntu> hi piple!
[12:59] <XB23> ahh cool
[12:59] <kbrooks> orochi_, do you accept pms?
[12:59] <IntangibleLiquid> erot1con: i mean you've added another 42 minutes to the infinite loop
[12:59] <erot1con> ah word.
[12:59] <erot1con> is it being released today, right?
[12:59] <Pici> erot1con: yes
[12:59] <erot1con> or it has been re-schedduled?
[12:59] <bazhang> yes erot1con
[12:59] <finer_recliner> was 8.04 stable release today? the website still says "coming soon" (sorry if this was already asked)
[12:59] <erot1con> heh amazing.
[12:59] <Myrtti> THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCMENT OF HARDY HERON YET, SO PLEASE, DO NOT POST ANY DOWNLOAD LINKS, DO NOT HIT REFRESH ON UBUNTU SITES AND PLEASE, BE *PATIENT*
[12:59] <bazhang> finer_recliner: yes sometime today
[12:59] <richard> Hola lobas :D
[13:00] <gordslater> i'm goin insane here, need coffee, running Xchat on a windows machine =8-{  here back in 5 mins
[13:00] <k1> bazhang u gt ny news abt the release?
[13:00] <Myrtti> richard: /join #ubuntu-es
[13:00] <mwalling> why couldnt you release it on the 19th ( my birthday) again?
[13:00] <priman> what's the best media player for ubuntu?
[13:00] <Myrtti> k1: mailing list
[13:00] <mwalling> :)
[13:00] <terminal_dude> UPRAGE or Freshinstall ?
[13:00] <G-Ubuntu> when I can download hardy?
[13:00] <k1> i was trying to find the iso file
[13:00] <Myrtti> !best | priman
[13:00] <bazhang> k1 sometime today is all; if you are updated then a bit earlier
[13:00] <Odd-rationale> !best | priman
[13:00] <ubotu> priman: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[13:00] <marx2k> I dont get why everyone gets so insanely nuts over a new release.. it's not like theres a crazy amount of stuff that the current release doesn't provide
[13:00] <atla> hi
[13:00] <priman> !best
[13:00] <tux> priman, VLC
[13:00] <Pici> G-Ubuntu: When its done, be patient.
[13:00] <Paavi2_0> i heard from the finnish guys that some cd-images are already available, so you can now stop asking, just start searching :)
[13:00] <Pici> priman: see ubotu's message above
[13:00] <k1> didnt get u bazhang
[13:00] <Myrtti> Paavi2_0: yeah, right
[13:00] <trucMuche> omg
[13:00] <danbhfive> marx2k: actually, the new kernel sounds pretty cool
[13:00] <XB23> now how do i make rsync connect to ssh auto without it asking for a password in a cron job
[13:00] <Crys_> kbrooks: Oh he... this place is insane for sure :]
[13:00] <XB23> hmm
[13:01] <Myrtti> Paavi2_0: please do tell me where they said that so I can go and smack them
[13:01] <john__> igoogle question: where can i get the html from the widgets the main google page(required for screenlets)     ???
[13:01] <marx2k> danbhfive: do you have a link to a changelog on it?
[13:01] <mok0> Is Ubuntu's bittorrent tracker running? Can anyone reach it?
[13:01] <berzerka> marx2k: it's certainly fun to watch the people freak out about this^^
[13:01] <Myrtti> Paavi2_0: since the OFFICIAL ANNOUNCMENT HASN'T YET BEEN MADE
[13:01] <Paavi2_0> Myrtti: have a guess... #ubuntu-fi
[13:01] <sja> thefish, big thanks... im goto loading... 1849mb its real size of new packets? my laptop update to 1 gb...
[13:01] <HSNews> how to do 'checksum' on Ubuntu dist. 8.04?
[13:01] <marx2k> berzerka: I used to be one of those people,. but after 4 dist upgrades it's a lot less exciting now
[13:01] <G-Ubuntu> When its done? I read only - soon, soon
[13:01] <rhanthony> thefish: dont see any DNS going on.
[13:01] <[B00]> john__, u cant
[13:01] <berzerka> marx2k: :)
[13:01] <tux> marx2k, 4? bah lightweight :P
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[13:02] <k1> :-D
[13:02] <rhanthony> thefish: just ssh and TCP, which mainly look like "raid-cc < ssh", not sure what those are.  but the packets aren't plain text, so thats good.
[13:02] <k1> 8-)
[13:02] <thefish> rhanthony, to be sure, start another capture, and then browse to sites you have definately never visited before
[13:02] <marx2k> besides, when it's released, the only way people are going to get it is through torrents.. usually download servers are jammed to the point where it's not worth it
[13:02] <marx2k> tux: :D
[13:02] <rhanthony> thefish: just did, through images.google.com... ensures new odd places.
[13:02] <thefish> rhanthony, that ssh stuff is your socks tunnel
[13:02] <danbhfive> marx2k: unfortunately, no, but it does have the CF Scheduler, thats one.
[13:02] <thefish> rhanthony, then it looks like success :)
[13:02] <tux> 45 mins after it was first mention on Debian news weekly  8 releases ago
[13:02] <john__> BOO : i think i can since screenlets give me that option...:copy the html code to convert it....
[13:02] <priman> does the 64-bit version of ubuntu work just as good as 32-bit?
[13:02] <tux> which reminds, me DNW is not alive anymore :/
[13:03] <fserve> priman, yep
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[13:03] <bazhang> priman: aye, but few advantages really
[13:03] <priman> great
[13:03] <thefish> sja, hows that looking?
[13:03] <[B00]> john__, they written in python and if it gave you that option why have you not got them already?
[13:03] <icesword> bazhang, welcome back
[13:03] <bazhang> priman: getting things like flash to work can be a bit of a hassle
[13:04] <marx2k> Right now the only thing I want out of Ubuntu which I don't get is proper overscanning on a 1080i HDTV DVI out on my graphics card
[13:04] <helvete> is it just me or is the help.ubuntu page really really slow?
[13:04] <marx2k> I have to do some serious magic to get it to overscan even near correctly
[13:04] <robertchahine> the ubuntu+1 channel has banned me for no reason. why?
[13:04] <rhanthony> thefish: success.  no DNS, just went to mlb.com which I have NEVER gone to in my life :P
[13:04] <Crys_> kbrooks: I'm coming back tomorrow ;) This place is driving me nuts
[13:04] <Naib> rhanthony: it wont be for no reason, you did something
[13:04] <bazhang> no links robertchahine
[13:04] <[B00]> did you aks when it is being released robertchahine
[13:04] <[B00]> *ask
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[13:05] <orochi_> Crys_: Might as well, you're only going to be yelled at or banned until they update their front page anyway
[13:05] <rhanthony> thefish: looks like it worked out just fine!  now just have to get irc going over the tunnel, and i'm good to go ;)
[13:05] <sja> thefish, upgrade say: need download  1839MБ of archives
[13:05] <robertchahine> no, i told them that not all mirrors got released
[13:05] <john__> BOO : because i have to copy+paste the html code from the specific window to specific screenlets box..
[13:05] <rhanthony> Naib: what do you mean?
[13:05] <thefish> sja, owww :)
[13:05] <thefish> sja, you are doing a dist-upgrade?
[13:05] <robertchahine> so if anybody asked about when it will be released , it will be baned?
[13:05] <Naib> rhanthony: sorry bad tab-complete, should of been for robertchahine, he obviously did something in that channel
[13:06] <bazhang> robertchahine: you pasted a link when they expressly asked that that was not okay
[13:06] <john__> BOO:its converts it
[13:06] <sja> thefish, its good?
[13:06] <Deckard> robertchahine i agree
[13:06] <Fdisk93> robertchahine: you posted a link
[13:06] <Naib> robertchahine: if you break channel rules you get punished
[13:06] <robertchahine> yeh, i was tolding them
[13:06] <Crys_> orochi_: yeah. I think I'm the only guy here who don't want to install 8.04 right away. I just need some pamphlet for our customers
[13:06] <thefish> sja, did you change your sources.list?
[13:06] <robertchahine> ah , i shouldn't post a link?
[13:06] <orochi_> robertchahine, They don't want people posting links because they want to make sure the ISO is mirrored to all the sites first, they just won't actually say that out loud for some reason
[13:06] <Pici> robertchahine: NO
[13:06] <marx2k> I'm not going to do a straight download dist-upgrade. Best way I've found to do it is to torrent the release ISO and then do an aptitude dist-upgrade directly from the ISO
[13:06] <Pici> !isitout
[13:06] <Fdisk93> they been banning all who been posting
[13:06] <ubotu> The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[13:06] <orochi_> Better to ban people first apparently :>
[13:06] <robertchahine> aha ok they're right
[13:06] <sja> thefish, he changed to update-manager -d :)
[13:07] <thefish> sja, if you are upgrading to gutsy, thats probably normal - if you have some time then go for it, but remember that lots of others will be doing the same
[13:07] <thefish> sja, aah i see
[13:07] <robertchahine> i read the rules but i didn't pay attention about that rule
[13:07] <bazhang> no nickrud?
[13:07] <gustavoimago> how do I know that I am using version? (sorry my bad english)
[13:07] <thefish> sja, i have not had problems with distribution upgrades like that, but some have, so make sure you have backups ;)
[13:07] <sja> thefish,  http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main its good ?
[13:07] <G-Ubuntu> when I can download hardy? When its done?
[13:07] <icesword> bazhang, for what
[13:07] <Deckard> uname -a
[13:07] <bazhang> lsb_release -a gustavoimago
[13:07] <fserve> gustavoimago, hmm /exec -o cat /etc/issue.net
[13:08] <KiFka> cat /etc/issue
[13:08] <trucMuche> G-Ubuntu, be patient :-(
[13:08] <ikonia> G-Ubuntu: if you have to ask and don't know where to look, you should not be using the release candidates
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[13:08] <harfg> willl flumotion work better?
[13:08] <fserve> what is 'lsb_release' ?
[13:08] <arj> linux standards base
[13:08] <fserve> hmm
[13:08] <bazhang> fserve it tells the version
[13:08] <fserve> check that
[13:08] <thefish> sja, hardy is quite old
[13:08] <fserve> No LSB modules are available.
[13:08] <thefish> :)
[13:08] <trucMuche> cat /etc/lsb-release
[13:08] <gustavoimago> thanksss
[13:09] <gustavoimago> :)
[13:09] <adamorjames_> :O
[13:09] <hanumankatuwal> oh man
[13:09] <wigren> just came from the release party, holy crazyness batman
[13:09] <fserve> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[13:09] <fserve> DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.04
[13:09] <fserve> DISTRIB_CODENAME=hardy
[13:09] <fserve> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04"
[13:09] <hanumankatuwal> ubotu
[13:09] <Myrtti> !paste
[13:09] <bazhang> got to go for a bit back soon
[13:09] <sja> the_alamo, i dont understand you :(
[13:09] <sja> thefish, i dont understand you :(
[13:09] <sja> the_alamo, sorry
[13:09] <thefish> sja, gutsy will be released some time today, so maybe wait a while
[13:09] <thefish> sja, otherwise you will download lots, and then have to do it again
[13:09] <neeto> What is the most supported wireless firmware in linux right now?
[13:10] <fserve> hmm
[13:10] <sja> thefish, 804 is hardy, yes ?
[13:10] <fserve> ralink ?
[13:10] <lolEee> thefish, do you not mean hardy will be released today?
[13:10] <neeto> I used to have a prism card, and that was super nifty-nice
[13:10] <the_alamo> sja, well it was a reasonable comment.
[13:10]  * thefish slaps head
[13:10] <fserve> im using a netgear 54g here
[13:10] <fserve> pretty good
[13:10] <fserve> dont work on vista x64
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[13:10] <neeto> fserve: despite the legality, can you inject packets with it?
[13:10] <thefish> sja, i get confused with all the monkeys and birds etc
[13:11] <neeto> fserve: do you happen to know what chipset it's running?
[13:11] <Paavi2_0> neeto: i've got a-link wl54usb, works fine. methinks it's ralink
[13:11] <lolEee> I'm using an atheros on the EeePC and an rtl8187 at home
[13:11] <fserve> neeto: no.. but i can check if u wanna know
[13:11] <lolEee> The Eee needed some compiling but the rtl8187 works out the box
[13:11] <thefish> why is the name of the animal not in /etc/issue? i can never remember them properly!
[13:11] <neeto> fserve: well, I think I am gonna try and get a prism card
[13:11] <skorp> hello
[13:11] <neeto> does anyone happen to know what the latest version of the prism firmware is called?
[13:11] <fserve> lspci | grep wireless
[13:11] <neeto> prism64 or something?
[13:12] <sja> thefish, im need to continue downloading from hardy ?
[13:12] <fserve> 01:07.0 Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface
[13:12] <skorp> i've got a problem with that world pay...cand someone help?
[13:12] <skorp> can*
[13:12] <neeto> world pay?
[13:12] <skorp> yes, from the ubuntu store
[13:12] <IntangibleLiquid> I see the "write-down" thing everyday :(
[13:12] <thefish> 804 is gutsy no?
[13:12] <Toznoshio> Can you imagine how busy this channel is going to get? All the people who have been asking questions in ubuntu+1 will come over here ... crazy
[13:12] <Myrtti> thefish: no
[13:12] <rsk> 8.04 is hardy thefish
[13:12] <lolEee> no, 8.04 is hardy
[13:12] <omar> hey guys have a question. i gonna buy a wireless pci card, what pci card works out of the boxs on ubuntu
[13:12] <neeto> is 8.04 official yet?
[13:12] <ikonia> no
[13:12] <Myrtti> no
[13:12] <rsk> nope
[13:12] <neeto> ok
[13:12] <neeto> lol
[13:13] <thefish> aah ok
[13:13] <notsniw_> i got a amd64 and use i386 for some time now because some software hasnt been available for 64bit (like flash and so on) is the 64bit-version now fully supported?
[13:13] <thefish> sja, sorry, i made a mistake hardy is fine
[13:13] <ikonia> guys, please keep an eye on ubuntu.com for release updates or join the release party channel
[13:13] <yoology> omar: RaLink RT2500 works fine
[13:13] <thefish> Myrtti, is there a way to tell what the animal is called? my /etc/issue is just the number release
[13:13] <Myrtti> ikonia: please don't mention any url
[13:13] <orochi_> ikonia: I thought you didn't want people refreshing the page ;>
[13:13] <rconan> ikonia, no... don't keep and eye on ubuntu.com
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[13:13] <rconan> that just slows things
[13:13] <Myrtti> thefish: lsb_release -a
[13:13] <skorp> nobody here to help me?
[13:13] <sja> thefish, im kernel panic :))))))) okey... im contrinued downloading and installing, yes?
[13:14] <thefish> Myrtti, thanks
[13:14] <thefish> sja, yes
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[13:14] <omar> tnhx yoology
[13:14] <sja> thefish, big thanks :)
[13:14] <thefish> sja, sorry i always confise the names - never remember if its a warthog or a goat or a bird
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[13:14] <thefish> sja, good luck :)
[13:15] <visik7> I dunno why on 32bit flash player eat my cpu more than on 64bit with the nspluginwrapper
[13:15] <visik7> it's absurd
[13:16] <skorp> World Pay gives me this error: The transaction cannot be processed due to the following: the MD5 signature could not be verified when trying to checkout from the Ubuntu Store. Can anybody help me with this?
[13:16] <obsethryl> hmm, aint it here? -> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/dvd/
[13:16] <stdin> no
[13:16] <Myrtti> it always gets postponed with 42 mins when you ask and/or whine
[13:16] <stdin> no it's not
[13:16] <lolEee> obsethryl, it's not official yet
[13:16] <HairyHardon> Every time you ask if it's out yet God kills a puppy!!
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[13:16] <neeto> does anyone know what the latest version of the prism wireless firmware is called?
[13:16] <Myrtti> yes
[13:17] <sja> thefish, good luck too :)
[13:17] <_Rambaldi_> !webcam
[13:17] <obsethryl> HairyHardon: good, i want all puppies to be gone!
[13:17] <KiFka> raphink, :D hey
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[13:17] <neeto> hairy hardon lolol
[13:17] <obsethryl> lolEee: hmm it would fit though that this is the gold final imvho
[13:17] <neeto> nicely done sir.
[13:17] <mb--> hey, is some one using kickstart?
[13:17] <harfg> well guys ... can you please better test premium sound hardware, after all if you want to converet muso's allot of them have exactly that and eventually they will disire streaming wether that involves 1024 users or just a stream to there kiss player and they are hardly going to use a realtek 850 which Im sure some one has tested to death
[13:17] <Myrtti> HairyHardon: please change your nick
[13:18] <laeg> lol
[13:18] <neeto> Myrtti: you ruin all the fun, that's clever
[13:18]  * stimpie starts  'update-manager -c'  in a loop
[13:18] <hanumankatuwal> well in my loco room, ubotu disconnected and reconnected again, hummm
[13:18] <Myrtti> stimpie: *sigh*
[13:18] <ale1> hey all, can anyone help me with a USB automount problem ????
[13:18] <peterm> hi i'm a bit confused: ubuntu.com states 8.04 is already released (http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-8.04-lts-desktop) but the download link only points to 7.10. Is 8.04 already released?
[13:18] <peterm> whats the exact problem alel?
[13:19] <neeto> so I'm taking it that no one knows what the newest version of the prism wifi firmware is being called?
[13:19] <IntangibleLiquid> the date of that link is 21
[13:19] <Naib> peterm: then news is abt announcing the upcoming release NOT that it had been released, please learn to read
[13:19] <ale1> im trying to make a USB hard disk mount to the same point on boot. ive been looking into udev rules but am now confused :-(
[13:19] <laeg> peterm: only 8.04 rc is released
[13:19] <neeto> maybe I'll just get an atheros card
[13:19] <Seveas> peterm, the release process takes a long time. Things become gradually visible. it is however not released until ptoperly announced. They can still pull it back
[13:19] <hanumankatuwal> Come on...........
[13:19] <peterm> Naib & IntangibelLiquid, ah ok thanks so it's not released now :-)
[13:20] <abdelrahman> hi, I hve a question, to switch from windows to ubuntu, to do so, I have to have a virtual machine with windows on linux. I don't want it to be slow, my hardware configuration is Pentum M 1.4 GHZ and 768 of RAM! is it going to be slow, I am a heavy user of visual studio.. i need it for a couple of projects and assignments
[13:20] <ale1> I downloaded the RC today and am running it now . . .
[13:20] <orochi_> Yes, apparently even asking about it is enough for it to be pulled back if you believe the channel op's ;>
[13:20] <ikonia> adamorjames_: you could look at wine compatability layer ?
[13:20] <frozty_sa|pc> IT'S RELEASED (incase someone hasn't seen)
[13:20] <ikonia> !wine | adamorjames_
[13:20] <Naib> frozty_sa|pc: ...
[13:20] <DJones> peterm: the release notes you linked says that "Canonical announces the Upcoming release", that announcement was on a day or so ago in advance of the official release later today
[13:20] <ubotu> adamorjames_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[13:20] <Deckard> you sure ?
[13:21] <Seveas> <slangasek> ladies and gentlemen, I have an announcement to make
[13:21] <Seveas> <slangasek> I'm now going to bed
[13:21] <Seveas> <slangasek> because Ubuntu 8.04 LTS has been released :-)
[13:21] <Seveas> IT IS OUT!
[13:22] <gustavoimago> look.. //releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ ... not rc.. the date is modify 24-Apr-2008 08:23
[13:22] <zash> it is?
[13:22] <IntangibleLiquid> cool
[13:22] <Kcaj> I have a crash to report
[13:22] <Kcaj> I really need it fixed though
[13:22] <gustavoimago> ???
[13:22] <abdelrahman> is my computer going to be slow?
[13:22] <micha__> where? It still doesnt say so on the frontpage
[13:22] <ale1> it still says "coming soon"
[13:22] <virdiq> haha... I loved the temp +m :)
[13:22] <micha__> abdelrahman: I would say your comp is slow to start with ;-)
[13:22] <Naib> ... the install CD says i386 but it doesn't work on a i586...
[13:23] <marx2k> abdelrahman: if you have 768 megs of RAM total and plan on running linux and a VM with Windows in it running Visual Studio? Yeah it will be slow
[13:23] <abdelrahman> micha__: that's why I want to switch to linux?
[13:23] <ikonia> Naib: yes it does
=== Seveas changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Hardy is released!
[13:23] <bknoxx> :p
[13:23] <micha__> abdelrahman: and run an VM inside with VS? Why should this be *any* faster than just windows?
[13:23] <icesword> calm down, people. yes, it will be out soon, but the speed will be a bit slow... you see, so many people asking when when when
[13:23] <ale1> can anyone help with usb auto mount
[13:23] <micha__> abdelrahman: I could help you if you would abandon windows
[13:23] <icesword> a little bit
[13:23] <kbrooks> icesword, It's out in fact.
[13:23] <abdelrahman> micha__: at least I hope my computer won't crash
[13:23] <IntangibleLiquid> Seveas: plz include the torrent link :)
=== Seveas changed the topic of #ubuntu to: It's out, please use the torrents | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html | http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:23] <Light-> OMG ITS OUT
[13:24] <Amaranth> !isitout
[13:24] <ubotu> YES!
[13:24] <yoology> !isitout
[13:24] <harfg> Is worth reinstalling 8.x?
[13:24] <tarzeau> OMG
[13:24] <harfg> it is*
[13:24] <abdelrahman> micha__: i have to have visual studio.. I can't run that directly on linux, can it
[13:24] <Deckard> i cannot believe it !!
[13:24] <negge^> harfg: why would you do that when you can upgrade?
[13:24] <marx2k> harfg: upgrade
[13:24] <tarzeau> where? where?
[13:24] <Binary-G> no torrent yet... only direct download.
[13:24] <tarzeau> CAN I HAVE IT PLS?
[13:24] <Kcaj> Crash Report
[13:24] <r0b> torrents are the best bet
[13:24] <Kcaj> Sorry, Samba closed unexpectedly
[13:24] <vijay> ye i gues it is out ..... i started download :)
[13:24] <harfg> yea i would
[13:24] <gord_slater> abdelrahman: however just running ubuntu with that memory is fine, no problems. its the virtual machine and the V-S that will make it slow to a crawl
[13:24] <Kcaj> How to fix?!
[13:24] <marx2k> abdelrahman: if you need Visual Studio. stick with Windows
[13:24] <orochi_> Except for that the torrent actually would _BENEFIT FROM HAVING MORE PEOPLE DOWNLOAD_ :P Of course logic can now resume being applied to reality now that the actual post has been made
[13:24] <icesword> kbrooks, who will have the hornour to annouce
[13:24] <Akari> Torrent is here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[13:24] <harfg> but i got 30gb transfer limit
[13:24] <__max_> im not allowed to torrent through our corp firewalls so il have to use iso :(
[13:24] <negge^> I still get "no new release found" when I do do-release-upgrade
[13:24] <Kcaj> Umm
[13:24] <Kcaj> It says my system is up to date
[13:25] <kbrooks> icesword, It is out already.
[13:25] <r0b> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:25] <rack> ubuntu hardy is released!
[13:25] <abdelrahman> marx2k: I need it for my assignments, I forced to use it
[13:25] <dns53> from the release party channel http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:25] <Kcaj> The package nformation was last updated less than an hour ago
[13:25] <Darkchef> hey, is the new release out today ?? the site says coming soon ??
[13:25] <jrib> everyone discussing 8.04 here is making it harder for people with real issues to get support.  Please use #ubuntu-release-party
[13:25] <Kcaj> How do I upgrade?
[13:25] <thoreauputic> Folks, use the torrent
[13:25] <Mimi> Darkchef, it's out :D
[13:25] <marx2k> abdelrahman: then I suggest not switching until you can get out from under Visual Studio... or... dual boot for the time being
[13:25] <thoreauputic> URL in /topic
[13:25] <icesword> i know, it is out even yerstday
[13:25] <r0b> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:25] <Kcaj> Anyway
[13:25] <raphink> hi KiFka
[13:25] <Mimi> Read the topic Grr! :)
[13:25] <Kcaj> I have a real problem!
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[13:25] <Akari> @jrib 7.10 now is #ubuntu-1
[13:25] <Kcaj> Samba will not start, I have the crash report
[13:25] <rwycuff> Kcaj: use the iso to upgrade
[13:25] <Kcaj> I really need it to work
[13:25] <ikonia> Akari:  no it isn't
[13:25] <rakan> hardy is out
[13:25] <Falc> YES :D!
[13:26] <rwycuff> Kcaj:what error do you get with samba
[13:26] <Kcaj> It just wont start then gives me a crash report with a ton of stuff in it
[13:26] <tarzeau> wait wait. wait. i want to download it before you!
[13:26] <IntangibleLiquid> the torrent is starting to download !
[13:26] <harfg> hrm
[13:26] <ale1> can I just update from the RC???
[13:26]  * harfg sends his cousin to leech
[13:26] <Seveas> ale1, yes
[13:26] <ale1> cool
[13:26] <Kcaj> Want to hear the contents of the crash report?
[13:26] <gord_slater> abdelrahman: definitely dual-boot, google for "wubi" for an easy way to dual-boot if you are not familiar and need to keep windows as-is
[13:27] <Mimi> Is i386 the one I want if I have intel duo core? :P
[13:27] <gustavoimago> my torrent 40% and up :)
[13:27] <tarzeau> Mimi: yes
[13:27] <simion314> abdelrahman:  i belive that it will be hard for you ro run Visual Studio in VM,im dual boot windows and ubuntu just for Visual stuido, at least until monodevelop will have a debuger ready
[13:27] <rwycuff> Kcaj:post it in past bin then post that
[13:27] <omar> you can also download it here http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[13:27] <hanumankatuwal> YEPPIEEEEE
[13:27] <Kcaj> OK hold on
[13:27] <Mimi> Yay thanks tarzeau
[13:27] <tarzeau> are there faster mirrors?
[13:27]  * harfg hopes its polished not scuffed
[13:27] <erilliam> Mimi, what sort of dual core do you have?
[13:27] <Kcaj> It wont let me
[13:27] <IntangibleLiquid> LOL the number of peers increase crazily fast
[13:27] <mb--> can some one help me with kickstart? the installer is always ignoring the url part in my kickstart file!? :F
[13:27] <Kcaj> I cant seect the text
[13:27] <tarzeau> i can provide a gbit mirror too
[13:27] <Akari> YAY it's here!! ^^
[13:27] <abdelrahman> gord_slater: I have ubuntu installed in dual boot, I just don't like going back and forth between the OSs
[13:27] <Akari> @abdelrahman: Easy, just erase Windows :-)
[13:28] <ale1> Can anyone suggest a channel to talk technical??
[13:28] <abdelrahman> gord_slater: I keep losing track of my files
[13:28] <asdfe> tarzeau: use torrents
[13:28] <marx2k> abdelrahman: unfortunately, you dont have much choice as it sounds like your assignments require software tied to a vendor
[13:28] <gord_slater> abdelrahman: ah ok
[13:28] <tarzeau> asdfe: not allowed to @werk
[13:28] <micha__> abdelrahman: Well, its just with your machine and VS, this is going to be slow
[13:28] <Mimi> erilliam, mmm.. it's  intel centrino duo
[13:28] <nickthorley> hi all - is the link at the top now live - i noticed that the site hasnt yet updated with the new release?
[13:28] <gord_slater> abdelrahman:yes i agree, ask if your assignment can work on non-M$ systems
[13:28] <Mimi> erilliam, mmm.. it's  intel centrino duo -- dual core 2
[13:28] <C|-|R15> any ideas when 8.04 is going to be release?
[13:28] <complexx> irwie ist bei mir unten links nichts mit lolcales. oder besser gesagt bei mir ist dort gar nichts^^
[13:28] <gord_slater> abdelrahman:just keep naggin them :]
[13:28] <Pici> C|-|R15: its out
[13:28] <Usa> hy i have a problem have just install ubuntu and my sound card is Genius 5,1 and i don't hear anything what should i do????????????????????????
[13:28] <tarzeau> C|-|R15: it's out
[13:28] <Akari> 8.04 is out
[13:28] <Pici> !de | complexx
[13:28] <tux> has someone made a digg article yet?
[13:28] <r0b> nickthorley: its released but ignore the coming soon part
[13:28] <Akari> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[13:28] <IntangibleLiquid> my torrent is slow :( 33kbps
[13:29] <Falc> It just came out. Really.
[13:29] <Falc> XD
[13:29] <tux> post the http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent link
[13:29] <ubotu> complexx: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:29] <weltall> does anyone know if the kernel has still the restricted modules dependency?
[13:29] <tarzeau> IntangibleLiquid: that's also what i get by HTTP
[13:29] <rakan> it is out!
[13:29] <harfg> when I tryed comptia cds under nix before it failed
[13:29] <Kcaj>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent <--- is that it?
[13:29] <abdelrahman> gord_slater: can anybody suggest the min hardware configuration with which I can do the VM thing..
[13:29] <r0b> yippie hooray
[13:29] <orochi_> It didn't so much just come out as someone evidently overcame their denial and decided to post about it ;>
[13:29] <complexx> ubotu: ja ich bin in ubuntu und kubunte channels drin
[13:29] <Krusher00> Newbuntu!
[13:29] <Krusher00> :-D
[13:29] <mayakuza_> do ennyone know what type of games i can play in ubuntu?
[13:29] <Akari> Yeah so great. It's here and I cannot find a CD-R!!
[13:29] <abdelrahman> gord_slater: I might b able to buy a laptop soon
[13:29] <complexx> Pici: ???
[13:29] <Pici> !games > mayakuza_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:29] <Kcaj> Wait
[13:29] <tarzeau> mayakuza_: sauerbraten ?
[13:29] <Usa> hello
[13:29] <C|-|R15> website just listing RC version
[13:29] <ikonia> Akari: stop discussing it
[13:29] <Usa> bahg
[13:29] <Pici> complexx: /j #ubuntu-de
[13:29] <Kcaj> Can't I mount and run it from within Ubuntu?
[13:29] <fserve> abdelrahman, Pentium 233mmx 16mb ram
[13:29] <gord_slater> abdelrahman: if its a help, link "My Documents" in windows to you /home or desktop in linux
[13:29] <nickthorley> can anyone who has installed hardy comment if encrypting a filesystem is an option - do you need the alternative cd?
[13:29] <znag> anyone ever had the installer crashing while formating the hard drive before installing? It freezes at 33% every time :(
[13:29] <Kcaj> Do I really need a damn CDR?
[13:30] <gord_slater> abdelrahman:
[13:30] <Akari> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/  <--- release
[13:30] <tarzeau> Kcaj: no you can install from windows with wubi
[13:30] <marx2k> Kcaj: mount what
[13:30] <complexx> ohh lol sry@all wrong channel :>
[13:30] <gord_slater> abdelrahman: well, i gave up windoze years ago, and have never use Vis-Stud
[13:30] <Kcaj> No
[13:30] <Kcaj> I am already in Ubuntu
[13:30] <bazhang> Kcaj: unetbootin might be what you need
[13:30] <Kcaj> Is ther no "Daemon Tools" for Linux?
[13:30] <abdelrahman> anybody ?
[13:30] <tux> digg this people http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Hardy_Heron_Torrent_DIRECT_LINK
[13:30] <Pici> Kcaj: So you just want to upgrade?
[13:30] <Kcaj> Yes
[13:30] <ethana2> Digging
[13:30] <bazhang> tux not a good ides
[13:30] <Jarulf> tux, will do
[13:30] <Kcaj> I am using 8.04
[13:30] <abdelrahman> can anybody suggest the min hardware configuration with which I can do the VM thing..
[13:30] <Kcaj> From yesterday
[13:30] <Pici> Kcaj: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[13:30] <marx2k> Kcaj: you dont need daemon tools for linux. you can mount ISOs as another device
[13:30] <tux> its a torrent link, better than a direct iso
[13:30] <Pici> !final > Kcaj (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[13:31] <kunwon1> Kcaj, you can mount an ISO and use it just as you would any other type of drive
[13:31] <Pici> Kcaj: See the pm rather than the link
[13:31]  * Falc wants the AMD53.
[13:31] <Falc> *64
[13:31] <Kcaj> kk
[13:31] <IntangibleLiquid> the Homepage is still Coming Soon :P
[13:31] <gord_slater> abdelrahman: anyone? recap- needs to virtualise M$win and M$ Visual Studio, hardware recommends?
[13:31] <ikonia> Falc: stop discussing it
[13:31] <Amaranth> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Hardy_Heron_Torrent_DIRECT_LINK <--digg it please
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[13:31] <erot1con> Ubuntu 8.04 just has been released.
[13:31] <Falc> ikonia: Oh?
[13:31] <Kcaj> Aww
[13:31] <erot1con> I have received the Ubuntu e-mail :->
[13:31] <Toznoshio> Q: where are conversations in this channel archived / logged for future reference?
[13:31] <Kcaj> So te one I installed yesterday
[13:31] <Kcaj> the RC
[13:31] <TB`> Naib - is it released yet?
[13:31] <Stroganoff> Amaranth, add this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[13:31] <Akari> Old news :-)
[13:31] <Kcaj> is the one you gys are just now going nuts over?
[13:31] <Kcaj> :( lol
[13:31] <Kcaj> damn
[13:31] <Kcaj> Well I'd imagine then
[13:32] <Danny_G> damn, no DVD images..
[13:32] <marx2k> I can run VMWare with a full XP install with Visual Studio 2k5 on a 2ghz mahcine with 1gb of RAM decently
[13:32] <Kcaj> A lot of you are going to have the same problem I do with Samba GUI not working and the server not wanting to start
[13:32] <Kcaj> btw
[13:32] <Falc> Damn, sorry man. I was just doing what others where... 0_o
[13:32] <Toznoshio> Danny_G: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=l/%27%7E%AD%CFTR%1AO%3C%11%97%04%DB%E6%F3%BCh%B2
[13:32] <ikonia> Kcaj: works fine
[13:32] <marx2k> Samba GUI?
[13:32] <gord_slater> wow my iso timeout at 99% lol
[13:32] <laeg> update in update manager people!
[13:32] <TB`> Hey when is 8.10 scheduled for release?
[13:32] <bazhang> no more #ubuntu+1 yay!
[13:32] <a-v> WOW,
[13:32] <karbo> Anyone having issues with 8.04 resetting screen configurations? I have tried editing xorg.conf and using the ATI config tool to enable dual screen display, and it works untill i log in, then it resets to cloned display...
[13:32] <ikonia> TB`: get real
[13:32] <Kcaj> ikonia
[13:32] <a-v> 8.04 in update manager
[13:32] <laeg> 8.04 has been released
[13:32] <Kcaj> I disagee, mine crashes
[13:32] <a-v> W00T
[13:32] <TB`> ikonia I am very real
[13:32] <Pici> TB`: 2008.10 = october 2008
[13:32] <ikonia> TB`: 8.10 - 10th of 08
[13:32] <SpencerUk> hello
[13:32] <Kcaj> and I get a crash report
[13:32] <Kcaj> that I send every time
[13:32] <ikonia> TB`: 8.04 is just released and then your asking about 8.10
[13:32] <Kcaj> I tied forced uninstall and reinstall... to no avail
[13:33] <TB`> Valid question
[13:33] <Toznoshio> Q: where are conversations in this channel archived / logged for future reference?
[13:33] <Danny_G> Toznoshio: many thanks!!
[13:33] <Kcaj> All over
[13:33] <TB`> I think they're gonna charge $10 for 8.10
[13:33] <SpencerUk> i downloaded the torrent just now and it was the release candidate
[13:33] <SpencerUk> what gives
[13:33] <jrib> !logs > Toznoshio (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:33] <bazhang> !logs | Toznoshio
[13:33] <abdelrahman> marx2k: I've another question, I use C++ to connect to my camera to capture images, will I be able to do that over vmware?
[13:33] <ubotu> Toznoshio: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[13:33] <ubot5> Toznoshio: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[13:33] <TB`> Anyone got download links for the beta?
[13:33] <skor1> is hardy released?
[13:33] <laeg> yes
[13:33] <marx2k> abdelrahman: what do you mean you use C++ to connect to your camera?
[13:33] <Akari> yay
[13:33] <bazhang> skor1: nay
[13:33] <ikonia> TB`: beta for what ?
[13:33] <SpencerUk> link to official release please
[13:34] <skor1> ok:)
[13:34] <TB`> 8.10 ikonia
[13:34] <ikonia> TB`: there isn't one
[13:34] <TB`> Really?
[13:34] <Akari> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[13:34] <bazhang> SpencerUk: not there yet
[13:34] <ikonia> what do you think
[13:34] <Kcaj> anyone who maybe can help me with the samba thing on the latest ubuntu, go to offtopic? ;D
[13:34] <gomoran> 2.6.25 kernel? As the backlight of my tablet is supportet in 2.6.25 and not in 2.6.24, I build an 2.6.25 but • boot-splash is not working and
[13:34] <gomoran>  
[13:34] <abdelrahman> marx2k: one of my projects, uses a Video For Windows c++ library to capture images from connected camera
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[13:34] <bazhang> gomoran: that is not supproted
[13:34] <erot1con> from the download page 8.04 is not being shown.
[13:34] <Pici> SpencerUk: /topic
[13:34] <SpencerUk> every time i seem to download the torrent its the beta ..what gives
[13:34] <gomoran> • and network interfaces are dead after resume-to-ram.
[13:34] <marx2k> abdelrahman: how is the camera itself connected? USB?
[13:35] <lalalala> has the final version out???
[13:35] <bazhang> SpencerUk: read the /topic
[13:35] <abdelrahman> marx2k: yea yea, webcam
[13:35] <bazhang> lalalala: nay
[13:35] <jrib> erot1con: it takes time for the website to be updated.  Use the link in the topic
[13:35] <Akari> It's always possible to compile your own custom kernel
[13:35] <C|-|R15> has xubuntu hardy be released for download?
[13:35] <sgbirch> I received the Umail announcing the release
[13:35] <Pici> bazhang: it is
[13:35] <sgbirch> *Email
[13:35] <lalalala> 8.04 out??
[13:35] <bazhang> Pici: oops sorry
[13:35] <Pici> lalalala: yes
[13:35] <rick112> \topoic
[13:35] <marx2k> abdelrahman: VMWare has USB port recognition so it will show up in VMWare
[13:35] <spaghetti_> forums dont work for me?
[13:35] <lalalala> great!!!!!!!!!!
[13:35] <bazhang> lalalala: my mistake sorry
[13:35] <TB`> What time was 8.04 release?
[13:35] <SpencerUk> \topic to you too
[13:35] <ikonia> TB`: today
[13:35] <Pici> TB`: Like 10 minutes ago
[13:35] <constrictor> TB` it's out
[13:35] <maek> its out
[13:35] <TB`> Oh thanks
[13:35] <ThomasY> Is the new ubuntu out yet?
[13:35] <lalalala> no x64 version??/
[13:35] <Amaranth> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Hardy_Heron_Torrent_DIRECT_LINK <--please digg
[13:36] <nickthorley> sorry all to repeat my question but think it got missed as the conversations are flowing very quickly - can anyone comment on the new release having the option to encrypt filesystems on install?
[13:36] <bazhang> ThomasY: yes
[13:36] <Amaranth> lalalala: it's called amd64
[13:36] <abdelrahman> marx2k: ok... thanks a million
[13:36] <Pici> lalalala: See the release page
[13:36] <marx2k> abdelrahman: no problem.
[13:36] <Amaranth> lalalala: replace i386 with amd64 in the link
[13:36] <Pici> lalalala: We can't put every link in the topic
[13:36] <virdiq> Amaranth: are you trying to murder the tracker? :p
[13:36] <soreau> Amaranth: Can I have the link to the torrent?
[13:36] <Amaranth> virdiq: maybe
[13:36] <orochi_> Amaranth: You're asking people to Digg a link that you would have banned them for posting 10 minutes ago :>
[13:36] <Amaranth> soreau: which one?
[13:36] <bazhang> haha
[13:36] <orochi_> Not exactly good PR
[13:36] <Amaranth> orochi_: the release is out now
[13:36] <KiFka> :D
[13:36] <Akari> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/  get what you need ^^
[13:36] <maek> when will hardy be available as a distro upgrade ??
[13:36] <orochi_> Amaranth: Ahh, I assume the 42 minute delay period is over then? ;P
[13:37] <Joeb454> maek: it should be pretty soon if not already
[13:37] <Amaranth> maek: the servers are pretty slammed but it should be soon
[13:37] <bazhang> maek from gutsy? already is
[13:37] <soreau> Amaranth: I want the official link to the official release
[13:37] <skor1> can an operator help me please?:)
[13:37] <Pici> skor1: /topic
[13:37] <jrib> skor1: ask a question
[13:37] <Pici> skor1: whats up?
[13:37] <dna_> only the torrents are available atm? no http or ftp? :(
[13:37] <skor1> I've got a problem with WorldPay when checking out from the Ubuntu Store
[13:37] <Akari> There are iso's as well
[13:37] <Amaranth> soreau: you want the mailing list URL in the topic then
[13:37] <r0b> dna_: http and ftp are released also
[13:37] <orochi_> I don't see why any of the people who came in here curious about the release only to get kicked out would now want to do Ubuntu's advertising for them...but in either case, enjoy the release that is now "officially" out :>
[13:37] <Joeb454> dna_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[13:38] <b13> yay
[13:38] <Joeb454> the servers are getting hammered right now, so I'd suggest torrents if you can
[13:38] <r0b> just ignore the coming soon part and continue to download page you'll see
[13:38] <jrib> skor1: this isn't really the right channel for that.  Is there a "support" link on the page you could use?
[13:38] <dna_> thnks brothers and sisters
[13:38] <bazhang> seed your torrents!
[13:38] <gord_slater> skor1: note to all Worldpay is payment method akin to paypal etc
[13:38] <erot1con> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:38] <erot1con> is that the latest release or a RELEASE CANDIDATE?
[13:38] <r0b> use the torrents
[13:38] <jrib> erot1con: release
[13:38] <Seveas> erot1con, the releae
[13:38] <erot1con> yeah word
[13:38] <bazhang> erot1con: final
[13:38] <erot1con> Thanks.
[13:38] <erot1con> what about the server version, is there a torrent for it?
[13:38] <gustavoimago> kill bill
[13:38] <orochi_> bazhang, I was seeding the torrent until I saw how the ops in here were handling things :> Closed the window soon after that
[13:39] <gustavoimago> gates
[13:39] <skor1> jrib it may not be the right channel but this is what worldpay sais: Please send the following information to the merchant...
[13:39] <Deamos> damn...that torrent is moving hella fast
[13:39] <whileimhere> Amarath is that the final i386 release for this?
[13:39] <IntangibleLiquid> just hope this release runs well on my laptop
[13:39] <Deamos> im already 50%
[13:39] <bullgard4> Where can I download all Hardy GNOME source code files in a single process?
[13:39] <Akari> Can anyone confirm the md5 of ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso? I got 8895167a794c5d8dedcc312fc62f1f1f
[13:39] <plik> Worldpay is much more professional that Paypal
[13:39] <case_> Akari, i confirm.
[13:39] <virdiq> torrents seem to be pretty low on bandwidth according to tracker stats... 4gbps?
[13:39] <dns53> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[13:39] <compwiz18> Akari: it should be on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[13:39] <IntangibleLiquid> Deamos: 3.8% :(
[13:39] <Akari> Thanks alot!
[13:39] <Mimi> Everyone who wants to know how to get Hardy, please type and press enter:     /topic
[13:39] <jrib> skor1: understand that this channel is just ubuntu users, we aren't associated with the canonical merchandise store, so we can't help you
[13:40] <gord_slater> skor1: as a guess, u could email the "following information" to the merchant/store, assuming you get a confirmation code or something?
[13:40] <fserve> distro[Ubuntu 8.04]
[13:40] <erot1con> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ those are RC or release?
[13:40] <neeto> Is there a table of PCI wifi cards and what firmware they use somewhere?
[13:40] <Mimi> ... read the topic
[13:40] <skor1> ah, ok jrib, thanks for sorting this out, sorry for disturbing:)....and YEEEEY for 8.04:D
[13:40] <julio_neto> Hell everyone!
[13:40] <gord_slater> skor1: maybe javascript or popupblocker stoipped something happening
[13:40] <Akari> Here's the official releases: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[13:40] <grindhold> i have a problem with upgrading from gutsy to hardy.. may someone help me
[13:40] <gord_slater> skor1: pure guess^
[13:40] <skor1> gord_slater it says the MD5 signature could not be verified
[13:40] <jrib> skor1: try using https://shop.canonical.com/contact_us.php
[13:41] <Joeb454> grindhold: whats up
[13:41] <Mimi> !ask | grindhold
[13:41] <ubotu> grindhold: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:41] <skor1> ok, thanks jrib
[13:41] <gord_slater> skor1: aha
[13:41] <neeto> Is there a table of PCI wifi cards and what firmware they use somewhere?
[13:41] <gord_slater> skor1:
[13:41] <lilleman> Create mask in samba refuses to work. 7.10 server I've tried most things. Group  just wont gain write permissions by default >_< 0775 should fix this, ye?
[13:41] <gord_slater> skor1: err, lemme think/look
[13:41] <erot1con> Thanks yo.
[13:41] <TB`> Is there a Mandrake channel?
[13:41] <_Thoth_> where can i found dvd iso?
[13:41] <Akari> releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[13:42] <Mimi> Is it possible to use more than one tracker to speed things up with the torrent?
[13:42] <grindhold> my GUI updatemanager does not show me the upgrade button.. i tried changing servers in sources.list, checked for updates over 10 times but nothing changes
[13:42] <dtamas> checking for mcs... no - what can i do?
[13:42] <gord_slater> skor1: before we go further tell me roughly what u tried to buy?
[13:42] <bazhang> grindhold: may take a bit
[13:42] <gord_slater> was it a CD or something?
[13:42] <shoot^> guys, i work in an office that currently has a Debian server with a Samba domain controller sorting roaming profiles across XP and Vista machines. How easy would it be to tie Ubuntu machines as clients into this setup?
[13:42] <chillitom> if I go for AMD64 is there anythign I might have trouble with?
[13:42] <Paavi2_0> Mimi: won't help
[13:42] <C|-|R15> anyone have torrent link for xubuntu 8.04?
[13:42] <Danny_G> wow... bittorrent downloads are very fast now
[13:42] <Pici> C|-|R15: /topic
[13:42] <Mimi> Thanks Paavi2_0
[13:42] <neeto> Mimi: google the MD5 sum of the file and you might get another tracker that you can add
[13:42] <gord_slater> skor1: i never used stroe u see
[13:42] <gord_slater> store
[13:42] <Danny_G> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <--- full releases
[13:42] <Mimi> Oh neat
[13:42] <Pici> C|-|R15: er... sorry, I misread, try asking in #xubuntu
[13:42] <soreau> Amaranth: The torrent isn't downloading at _all_
[13:43] <Mimi> ... soreau  there's SO many ppl downlolading right now, what do you expect?! it's JUST released!
[13:43] <bazhang> soreau: fine here, just wait a bit
[13:43] <mayakuza_> is it posible tu uppgrade 7.10 to the new version?
[13:43] <erot1con> where is the ubuntu end of life versions page?
[13:43] <neeto> I am downloading every episode of MST3K on torrent, 135GB. I feel like I am participating in something epic.
[13:43] <bazhang> mayakuza_: yes
[13:43] <Pici> !eol | erot1con
[13:43] <ubotu> erot1con: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[13:43] <jrib> !upgrade > mayakuza_ (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:43] <C|-|R15> thanks danny G
[13:43] <maek> has anyone done a distro upgrade ?? does it break anything ??
[13:43] <erot1con> Thanks
[13:43] <compwiz18> mayakuza_: yep
[13:43] <gord_slater> skor1:   i font a contact us link, on page https://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=16
[13:43] <Mimi> maek,  it depends on your system :)
[13:43] <Danny_G> C|-|R15: you'r welcome
[13:43] <TB`> Is v8.10 in alpha stage yet?
[13:43] <gord_slater> its just above the worldpay/visa logos
[13:43] <compwiz18> maek: I did upgrade to the RC and it works fine
[13:43] <bazhang> maek: it goes well
[13:43] <lilleman> Anyone able to help me with umask problem in samba?
[13:43] <Pici> TB`: no
[13:43] <lalalala> ..............................
[13:43] <mayakuza_> oky ty
[13:43] <Pici> !traffic
[13:43] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[13:44] <adamorjames_> compwiz18, hola
[13:44] <ale1> can anyone help with a usb device mount issue??
[13:44] <jrib> maek: not usually.  It's definitely not intended that it breaks things.  If you are using official repositories, then you should be okay.  Back up your important data of course
[13:44] <Akari> Ok so now pelase teach me how to convince my ISP to offer 8.04 for their servers
[13:44] <gord_slater> skor1: its just above the worldpay/visa logos
[13:44] <neeto> When is the official release date of 8.04?
[13:44] <flokason> now
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> neeto, today
[13:44] <compwiz18> neeto: 15 minutes ago
[13:44] <maek> okay thanks for your response .... I will do one now I reckon
[13:44] <Pici> neeto: 20 minutes ago
[13:44] <bazhang> neeto: you are living it
[13:44] <adamorjames_> neeto, today
[13:44] <gord_slater> neeto: now/its out
[13:44] <neeto> wow nifty.
[13:44] <soreau> Oh, it's downloading now, be it slow
[13:44] <Akari> @ale1: USB sticks are mounted as scsi drives
[13:44] <prateek> There seems to be no kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.jigdo. Thanks to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JigdoDownloadHowto and other places I had downloaded RC iso and was planning to update it to the final one with jigdo.
[13:44] <neeto> And upgrade from 7.10 is completely seamless?
[13:44] <whileimhere> I feel stupid but I have to ask. How is it that Amaranth got the torrent before the Ubuntu.com site has it up?
[13:45] <C|-|R15> only 8.4kb dwnld on torrent....that similar across the board for everyone else?
[13:45] <compwiz18> whileimhere: the site hasn't been updated yet
[13:45] <ale1> Akari: I want to mount a usb device to the same mount point at boot . . . any ideas???
[13:45] <grindhold> hellyeah it works!
[13:45] <IntangibleLiquid> whileimhere: read the topic
[13:45] <bazhang> neeto: depends on what repos you are using; lots of third party stuff in there?
[13:45] <nanopino> whileimhere: maybe he's the inside man
[13:45] <whileimhere> compwiz18 yeah so how did Amaranth get it?
[13:45] <skor1> yes gord_slater, thank you very much, didn't notice the link
[13:45] <whileimhere> That could be sure
[13:45] <bazhang> whileimhere: the special connections
[13:45] <ScarEye> umm.. guys,  Is this site behing hammered ???  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/rc
[13:45] <skor1> have a nice day people :)
[13:45] <compwiz18> whileimhere: I'm guessing he went to release.ubuntu.com/hardy and clicked on the linhk
[13:45] <soreau> Amaranth: I'm not going to make a digg account just for that.. why do you want it to get dug anyway?
[13:45] <Akari> whileimhere: we have monitored releases.ubuntu.com closely and started downloading when it was updated
[13:45] <skor1> good bye
=== WhereIsNewBuntu is now known as Kokos
[13:45] <maek> OMG I checked the update manager half an hour ago and Hardy wasn't there now it is !!!!
[13:45] <neeto> bazhang: there's lots of third party stuff on my computer, but there aren't really that many 3rd party repos in my sources.list if that's what you mean
[13:46] <orochi_> whileimhere, The link was already there for some time, the ops just wouldn't announce it until about that long ago
[13:46] <gord_slater> skor1:no probs good luck, not that the "md5" thing is technical stuff, if u dont know what it is, paste any info u have in error message for them
[13:46] <gord_slater> note#
[13:46] <whileimhere> Akari Thanks that was what I was wondering.
[13:46] <plik> ScarEye: I doubt it, there doesn't seem to be much interest al all today  ;p
[13:46] <sgbirch> C|-|R15, I am seeing 50 KB/s on the torrent
[13:46] <bazhang> neeto: yeah the repos; you should be okay but some 3rd party stuff may not work as before
[13:46] <whileimhere> :)
[13:46] <neeto> bazhang: like what?
[13:46] <tarzeau> i'm curious what popcon.ubuntu.com will look like in a week
[13:47] <whileimhere> My torrent is at 80KiBs and I will leave it open for a few days.
[13:47] <orochi_> whileimhere: Of course now that it's "officially" released they'll ask you to Digg the link rather than ban you for posting it ;P
[13:47] <Akari> I'll give 200k/sec for at least a week
[13:47] <bazhang> neeto: depends on what you have; I may not have the same stuff you know?
[13:47] <bitraiser> AHHHH!! GOTTA LOVE THAT SPEED :)          http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superspeedbitraiserpu3.png
[13:47] <adamorjames_> http://www.news.com/8301-13580_3-9924912-39.html?tag=nefd.pop
[13:47] <tux> why are they calling it Ubuntu Education Edition 8.04 (Hardy Heron)
[13:47] <tux> is that a name change from now on ?
[13:47] <tarzeau> once i have it, you can get it with gbit: http://krum.ethz.ch/iso/
[13:47] <bazhang> tux edubuntu is now an addon
[13:47] <neeto> bazhang: I'ma just take a leap of faith and fix whatever gets gnarled in the final outcome
[13:47] <marx2k> tux: There's been an edu edition for a bit
[13:48] <tux> aha ok thanks
[13:48] <bazhang> neeto be sure to back up first ;]
[13:48] <whileimhere> Im jsut a small DSL line in the pnd but well we shall help as we can
[13:48] <neeto> bazhang: is there an xubuntu release for 8.04 already/
[13:48] <mayakuza_> where can i find the new version?
[13:48] <Pici> !list
[13:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:48] <bazhang> neeto: must be
[13:48] <jrib> mayakuza_: read the /topic
[13:48] <arvind_k> bazhang, hey whats the complete set of restricted formats known as
[13:48] <ale1> can anyone help with mounting a usb disk to the same mount point on boot???
[13:48] <Deckard> I GOT IT !!
[13:48] <cvasilak> Ubuntu 8.04 -- You'll never go back! yea baby yea! :)
[13:48] <neeto> bazhang: somehow I am nervous
[13:48] <erot1con> that Life Cycle URL works like shit.
[13:49] <bazhang> neeto dont be
[13:49] <ThomasY> ale1, add it to fstab?
[13:49] <Pici> erot1con: Watch the language please.
[13:49] <bazhang> arvind_k: PM?
[13:49] <erot1con> Pici: ok
[13:49] <erot1con> is there any other Life Cycle URL?
[13:49]  * Akari purrs, burning a second CD
[13:49] <neeto> bazhang: will it just slide the new kernel in without messing up my install whatsoever?
[13:49] <shane2peru> ahh, the server edition still is not able to install gnome desktop
[13:49] <ale1> ThomasY: tried that but if it dosent work. are usb devices scanned before running fstab???
[13:49] <jrib> erot1con: what are you asking about exactly?
[13:50] <Pici> erot1con: Not really... the wiki is just under high load from the release, be patient
[13:50] <arvind_k> neeto, use update-manager -d for that
[13:50] <Akari> If you need a desktop, please download the "desktop" iso :)
[13:50] <neeto> bazhang: like, I have everything very carefully setup, the way everything looks, the way everything feels, it's nifty-nice... I don't want that to get screwed up
[13:50] <bazhang> neeto: it should do that; best to always back up important data as a rule though
[13:50] <ThomasY> ale1 yes. define 'doesnt work'...have an error message?
[13:50] <seyl> I can't really open the forums very-well, is it because of high server load ?
[13:50] <julio_neto> What the hell is happening with Ubuntu website?!!!!
[13:50] <``Cube> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
[13:50] <bazhang> neeto then stick with gutsy for a while; it is very nice
[13:50] <``Cube> ITS OUUUUUT!
[13:50] <FloodBot1> ``Cube: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:50] <TB`> ``Cube - nope
[13:50] <ale1> ThomasY: no, sorry for poor information. will run it now.
[13:50] <shane2peru> Akari, actually use the torrents they are super fast!
[13:50] <neeto> bazhang: what's the best way to upgrade? update-manager -d as you said?
[13:50] <lalalala> .......................
[13:50] <lunchbox330> hardy broke compiz's 3d windows.
[13:50] <whileimhere> You know I have no real hope but on the laptop I use Ubuntu on it works perfectly with one exception the SD card reader that is built into it. Is there any chance that it will ever work with Ubuntu?
[13:50] <lalalala> download too slow!!!!
[13:51] <caizhao> why
[13:51] <neeto> lunchbox330: damn thanks for saying something
[13:51] <Akari> shane2peru: I know I'm seeding with max server speed :-)
[13:51] <gustavoimago> torrent slowwwwww, ai ai my heart
[13:51] <shane2peru> lalala use torrents
[13:51] <Danny_G> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <--- full releases, Hurdy CDs and *DVDs*
[13:51] <maek> lalalala, use torrents
[13:51] <ThomasY> whileimhere: its not an ubuntu issue..its a linux issue...and maybe, maybe not
[13:51] <Deckard> shane2peru i agree ultra fast !!!
[13:51] <shane2peru> lalalala, use torrents
[13:51] <ale1> ThomasY: However i did have a thought that if i had another USB device in at boot, how can i guaruntee that the one i want is SDB for example?
[13:51] <orochi_> lunchbox330, Well they never worked properly for me in the last release so maybe that's a good sign ;>
[13:51] <bazhang> neeto: your update manager should inform you of a new version
[13:51] <shane2peru> TORRENTS ARE GREAT!
[13:51] <dna_> usb ports never worked with ubuntu on my laptop :| even on the beta
[13:51] <Sake> Where can I get the ubuntu torrents?
[13:51] <Akari> lalalala, use torrents :-)
[13:51] <neeto> alright
[13:51] <whileimhere> My ETA is 2 hours and I can work on the lawn while it does its thing.
[13:51] <ThomasY> ale1, you can use udev for that
[13:51] <knightWse> congrats on the new release everyone !
[13:51] <lalalala> download too slow!!!!
[13:51] <lunchbox330> compiz does work (cube etc) but if you custom built the 3d windows plugin it's broke now.
[13:51] <Arcad3> it was launched ?
[13:51] <jrib> Sake: read the /topic
=== Pici changed the topic of #ubuntu to: It's out, please use the torrents | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2008-April/000111.html | http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:51] <``Cube> cube, that's my name!
[13:51] <PyChild> HI, hello, where torrents?
[13:52] <Light-> the torrent has insane speed
[13:52] <whileimhere> ThomasY Your right its a linux issue. Just have hopes!
[13:52] <knightWse> 1.29 hours and counting
[13:52] <lalalala> lol
[13:52] <Light-> PyChild: topic
[13:52] <Deckard> i just got my release in 12 minutes guys isn't that awesome ???
[13:52] <bazhang> Deckard: nice
[13:52] <knightWse> whow :) impressive
[13:52] <ale1> ThomasY: Ahh now this i have tried, udev rules. but got confused. do you know of any good tutorials or a wiki???
[13:52]  * Akari is raising bt speed
[13:52] <whileimhere> Deckard ahhhhh
[13:52] <Danny_G> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ <--- full releases, Hurdy CDs and *DVDs*
[13:52] <neeto> lunchbox330: how broken is the 3d windows plugin? Does it work at all or is it just sorta buggy like it's always been?
[13:52] <lunchbox330> i got my torrent off the ireland mirror like 2 hours ago...
[13:52]  * Akari pops a bottle of wine
[13:52] <orochi_> Deckard: That's almost as long as you would have been banned for even talking about it 20 minutes ago :P
[13:52] <ThomasY> ale1, yes..but you will have to wait. im not at a pc
[13:52] <Pici> orochi_: Drop it.
[13:52] <PyChild> Light: thanks
[13:52] <maek> Akari, how does WINE work in hardy ??
[13:53] <C|-|R15> just in case anyone is interested in Xubuntu release.... http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/alternate/
[13:53] <ale1> ThomasY: ok no problem, thank you very much for the effort. . . :-)
[13:53] <neeto> thanks C|-|R15
[13:53] <ThomasY> np
[13:53] <whileimhere> WOW my DL speed dropped from 84 to 10
[13:53] <Akari> maek: You need to use the wine repository it's always 2-3 versions behind
[13:53] <Light-> Is it just me, or does XFCE in Xubuntu look suspiciously like GNOME?
[13:53] <whileimhere> oh back up!
[13:53] <lunchbox330> you click the box then it unchecks itself neeto
[13:53]  * shane2peru is checking out jigdo to update his server edition rc iso
[13:53] <Akari> There is no Hardy repository yet
[13:53] <lunchbox330> standard compiz MO
[13:53] <tarzeau> 160kb/s
[13:53] <billgoldberg> are the ubuntuforums down again?
[13:53] <zash> Light-: default theme, yes
[13:53] <maek> oh okay Akari
[13:54] <whileimhere> You know concerning XFCE I dont see much of an improvement if any on my laptop between XFCE and GNOME
[13:54] <lunchbox330> akari, i've already apt-gotten from it
[13:54] <shane2peru> Akari, what, I have been using Hardy repository already with rc release
[13:54] <Akari> You better update from 7.10 to keep your wine version
[13:54] <neeto> lunchbox330: damn... I think I might just chill with 7.10 for a couple weeks so stuff can get fixed
[13:54] <ari_stress> welcome hardy :)
[13:54] <C|-|R15> nice to see everyone excited about the release.....shows what a good distro ubuntu is!
[13:54] <dante___> new version has only LTS?
[13:54] <orochi_> Pici: Threaten me too if you want, it's no big loss to me if I can't come in here :> I just think the way the ops were acting was embarrassing, particularly coming as an employee that's a commercial supporter of canonical
[13:54] <Pici> dante___: Yes, is that a problem?
[13:54] <ari_stress> C|-|R15: yes it is :D
[13:54] <dante___> no no just wondering
[13:54] <ajricoveri> how do i kill my gnome desktop ?? i want to only have my seven terminals ...
[13:54] <``Cube> I got 350 (my max), what speeds do you have?
[13:54] <adinc> hello, i just realized that python programms can not load modules. is there a problem with hardy and python?
[13:54] <Akari> o.O Ok delete my quote I'm absolutely saying the opposite now :-)
[13:54] <shane2peru> Akari, wine is easy to install an older version, just grab an old deb from winehq
[13:54] <bazhang> orochi_: please let it go; especially today of all days
[13:55] <dante___> i wanted to be sure i don't get the wrong version =)
[13:55] <nickthorley> anyone here installed the alternative  boot cd
[13:55] <ari_stress> ajricoveri: sudo update-rc remove gdm
[13:55] <maek> lol I would hate to see cancicals (sorry if I misspelt that) bandwidth bill after the hardy release
[13:55] <tlsarles> Any idea when the repositories are going to be updated?
[13:55] <whileimhere> Ubuntu Website just went down
[13:55] <Akari> Get the torrent!
[13:55] <neeto> lol dude, just chilling in here is completely turning me off from upgrading right now... problems with 3d windows, problems with python
[13:55] <lunchbox330> hardy is verynice otherwise though... amarok 1.4.9 ftw!
[13:55] <whileimhere> Now its back up
[13:55] <C|-|R15> glad i switched from mandrake a few years back....it as the free CD in post that good me interested.....now ubuntu is in my blood
[13:55] <Mimi> whileimhere,  still working for me :0
[13:55] <neeto> scares the fuck outta me
[13:55] <neeto> err sorry for the language
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[13:55] <bazhang> neeto language please
[13:55] <whileimhere> Mimi I think its getting hit hard
[13:56] <Light-> lol I feel bad, ive downloaded 300mb on torrent and only uploaded 5. stupid 128k upload
[13:56] <Mimi> whileimhere,  no way
[13:56] <ari_stress> C|-|R15: i think mandrake has lost it's identity
[13:56] <whileimhere> I was right
[13:56] <shane2peru> Light-, no, I think a lot of people are seeding
[13:56] <tarzeau> if you prefer to wget iso iamges: http://krum.ethz.ch/iso/
[13:56] <whileimhere> They just updated it
[13:56] <whileimhere> :)
[13:56] <Mimi> Light-,  dont worry im compensatting for you, downloading at 10kbps and uploading at ~ 50 -______-
[13:56] <shane2peru> Light-, therefore no need to upload a lot
[13:56] <spacemoose> Light-: that's 5 more than you would have uploaded over http :)
[13:56] <C|-|R15> yeah....they lost me a while back
[13:56] <adamorjames_> nice tarzeau
[13:56] <Light-> Mimi: Thanks :P
[13:56] <whileimhere> So the site went down for about 12 second for update
[13:56] <Viele-baeren> cu
[13:56] <ajricoveri> ari_stress, i meant just killing gnome and xserver just for this session hehee :p not meant to remove it from init scripts
[13:56] <adinc> yahu tarzeau ...
[13:56] <shane2peru> spacemoose, ha ha, that is funny. :)
[13:56] <neeto> If I'm running xubuntu, and my update manager tells me to update to 8.04, it will download xubuntu 8.04 right?
[13:57] <tarzeau> adamorjames_: it's still mirroring, so you'll need to run wget -c several times. it's gbit connected
[13:57] <jrib> neeto: yes
[13:57] <tarzeau> adinc: slm
[13:57] <amerio> neeto: right
[13:57] <neeto> jrib: good stuff.
[13:57] <adinc> slm
[13:57] <Sake> So I went to http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/, there's like 4 versions of hardy for desktop, which do I take? Is there a difference?
[13:57] <Matias> help someone, i have been playing with settings (appearance and such) and when I rebooted, resolution became 680x480 and can't go higher in monitor setup, how can I make it 1280x1024 again
[13:57] <ari_stress> ajricoveri: oh :), just press ctrl + alt F1-F6 then
[13:57] <gord_slater>  neeto: yep
[13:57] <lunchbox330> i got the alternate ISO and installed off that disc, it was very painless.
[13:57] <adamorjames_> I'm getting around 100kb/s on the torrent
[13:57] <bazhang> Sake: you want 32 bit or 64 bit?
[13:57] <compwiz18> Sake: use release.ubuntu.com/hardy , not the tracker
[13:57] <dman92> Yes! my nearest mirror finally got updated!
[13:57] <Pici> Sake: i386 desktop if you arent sure, the others are for 64bit processors and the alternate (non-live) cd
[13:58] <C|-|R15> i'm getting about 9kb on torrent
[13:58] <flokason> what is the diffrence between the cd version and dvd version?
[13:58] <lunchbox330> matias, theres a new res tool supposedly (i havent found it yet)
[13:58] <Akari> Alternative torrent link: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent the MD5 is 8895167a794c5d8dedcc312fc62f1f1f  (always check the MD5 when getting from unsupported sources!)
[13:58] <Light-> Matais: Change your screen to something that supports 1280x1024
[13:58] <ari_stress> Matias: open the menu: System > Preferences > Resolution
[13:58] <bazhang> flokason: one is larger
[13:58] <odious> should i use 32 or 64 bit for my macbook pro?
[13:58] <Sake> compwiz18: link dead
[13:58] <flokason> really?
[13:58] <compwiz18> Sake: just wait, it'll come back :)
[13:58] <whileimhere> They are still updating the Ubuntu pages
[13:58] <flokason> but other than that, what is the diffrence
[13:58] <ajricoveri> ari_stress, do i kill the  xserver process just by switching to another getty ?? is that it ??
[13:58] <compwiz18> Sake: or grab the torrent from the topic
[13:58] <bazhang> odious: up to you really; not much advantage to 64 bit really
[13:58] <Sake> Pici: Yea, but there's 4 versions of i386 desktop, and hten another 4 of the dvd. I also want the server release
[13:58] <Matias> ari_stress: there is no setting higher than 640x480 in monitor settings (KDE)
[13:58] <adamorjames_> C|-|R15, you sure you have a port opened and everything o_O
[13:58] <jrib> flokason: the dvd contains all of the main repository on the cd (so you don't have to download those packages)
[13:58] <ari_stress> ajricoveri: no. the gnome is still running in F7
[13:59] <odious> bazhang: yeah thought so cheers
[13:59] <Akari> compwiz18: That was a reaction to the report that ubuntu.com is down
[13:59] <shane2peru> does transmision (the bit torrent for hardy) start a torrent if I have the iso?  I'm not sure how to start a torrent for Ubuntu 64 Hardy if I haven't downloaded it via torrent
[13:59] <bazhang> flokason: all the desktops iirc (kde gnome, etc)
[13:59] <neeto> If I upgrade to 8.04 64 bit from 7.10 32 bit will it be a seamless upgrade just like it would be if I did 32 bit to 32 bit?
[13:59] <C|-|R15> DVD version has a lot more stuff that you would normally just get via internet as and when needed...DVD is good for internet-less comps
[13:59] <compwiz18> Akari: it's back now ,I think
[13:59] <Light-> Matais: Dunno about KDE, but in GNOME theres an option to change your screen type. This affects the resolutions you can choose from I believe
[13:59] <bazhang> neeto: not possible
[13:59] <ajricoveri> ari_stress, i wish to release system sources so i can compile my kernel more efficiently =)
[13:59] <cnr> hi all
[13:59] <jrib> neeto: no, you would need to reinstall to change architecture
[13:59] <shane2peru> neeto, NO, you can't upgrade from 32bit to 64bit
[14:00] <znag> geez ubuntu-desktop really installs a crapload of stuff on the Ubuntu Server.... Is there something such as metapackage which will provide the xorg server and Gnome without all the other software like openoffice?
[14:00] <Sake> Ok, so I grabbed the torrent from the topic. Where can I get a torrent for the server version?
[14:00] <ari_stress> ajricoveri: oh in that case: sudo init 1, it will bring text mode only
[14:00] <compwiz18> as someone said, the ubuntu.com sites are up and down like yoyos
[14:00] <ajricoveri> about hardy, what kernel version does it have ... ?? =)
[14:00] <shane2peru> neeto, also make ssure you create a new home directory, they config files will affect your 64bit install
[14:00] <compwiz18> Sake: you'll want the alt. install or the dvd
[14:00] <whileimhere> I like yoyos
[14:00] <ajricoveri> ari_stress, thank u
[14:00] <Pici> Sake: Use the links that are named ubuntu-8.04-......
[14:00] <lunchbox330> 2.6.24 i think?
[14:00] <shane2peru> neeto, either a new username, or wipe all the config files in your home directory.
[14:00] <shane2peru> neeto, they are hidden files usually.
[14:01] <Sake> compwiz18: but isn't there a server iso?
[14:01] <Pici> ajricoveri: 2.6.24
[14:01] <Akari> znag: Ubuntu desktop is... for desktops. If you need a text-only server install you should get the server install. You can also opt to uninstall OpenOffice using synaptic.
[14:01] <neeto> shane2peru: I was just asking a question, I'm not going to upgrade to 64. Thanks anyway though
[14:01] <Pici> Sake: scroll down, it confused me too
[14:01] <Yoni> Is the full 8.04 version is downloadable via the web site morror in switherlend?
[14:01] <ari_stress> my download from taiwan takes 17 hours, can you believe it?? :(
[14:01] <gopp> should I do an upgrade
[14:01] <shane2peru> neeto, I have been there done that, and got the t-shirt, just didn't want to see you do the same. :)
[14:01] <gopp> for full install
[14:01] <Akari> neeto: I have a sempron and had a less-than-nice experience with the ubuntu amd64 install
[14:01] <lunchbox330> all in all, i have a fully configured hardy guys, few problems (bling related) otherwise go update now!
[14:01] <icesword> ari_stress, where are you
[14:01] <compwiz18> Sake: for some reason I'm thinking there isn't, but I think the alt install has one (I might be wrong about either or none)
[14:01] <gord_slater> err, suggestion for future realeases - automated "click to share the iso to help spread bandwidth demands around the community" sort-of applet  IF release=within 1st week   etc etc, just a raw idea for noobs
[14:01] <tarzeau> Yoni: not yet, but it's downloading
[14:01] <gopp> any problems with upgrade
[14:01] <shane2peru> neeto, I think 64 bit is worth the change. just MHOP
[14:02] <shane2peru> MHO
[14:02] <tarzeau> Yoni: if your download manager (wget -c) can continue it, you'll get it soon fully
[14:02] <hanumankatuwal> u all should ask ur ISPs to put it on their mirrors
[14:02] <Yoni> I'm on windows ATM :\
[14:02] <ari_stress> icesword: indonesia, but the local repo hasn't got hardy yet, so i grab from taiwan, they said it's the fastest from here
[14:02] <Akari> gopp: None here it's on my second computer
[14:02] <bazhang> gord_slater: just make a new torrent in transmission
[14:02] <neeto> shane2peru: word... I think I'll chill at 32 for a while though, I've no need for 64 bit math or over 4 gigs of ram yet so I'm not to worried
[14:02] <tarzeau> Yoni: if you have Safari web browser on windows, it can do that
[14:02] <Yoni> Where can I find a torrent for it then?
[14:02] <gord_slater> yeah, but "wizarded" for noobies i meant
[14:02] <Pici> Yoni: /topic
[14:02] <rohan> it's out! thanks a congrats to the ubuntu team :)
[14:02] <D0pamine> gay ?
[14:02] <shane2peru> neeto, yeah, me either really, just tried it, and haven't gone back.
[14:03] <rohan> and the ubuntu.com website intro to 8.04 is TOO GOOD lol
[14:03] <bazhang> gord_slater: doesnt get much easier than what transmision offers
[14:03] <Akari> Again: All official files are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:03] <Qrawl> Where can I get the torrent
[14:03] <compwiz18> transmission is awesome :)
[14:03] <Yoni> I need the 64bit image?
[14:03] <Yoni> ...
[14:03] <D0pamine> why cant i empty my bin in hardly heron ?
[14:03] <cnr> anyone succeed with running hardy heron AMD64 on thinkpad r61 (c2d t8100), coz' i've got kernel panic right after kernel loads
[14:03] <ari_stress> rohan: yeah, it's really tempting windows user :D
[14:03]  * compwiz18 points to the topic (@qrawl)
[14:03] <prateek> I have the Kubuntu RC desktop iso. How do I update it to the final one with Jigdo? http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/ doesn't seem to have the necessary jigdo file.
[14:03] <Akari> 64 bit, torrent, desktop, server it's all there!
[14:03] <livingdaylight> is it sudo apt-get ubuntu-dist-upgrade?
[14:03] <Sake> aaah, ok. So if I go to http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/, the links that are ubuntu-8.04-... are the proper releases, right? Not the hardy-...
[14:03] <shane2peru> Yoni, get the torrent!  it is faster
[14:03] <Qrawl> ty
[14:03] <Yoni> where??
[14:03] <dna_> when will the documentation be available?
[14:03] <neeto> this is sketchy
[14:04] <scizzo-> livingdaylight: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:04] <Yoni> Where can I find the torrent 64bit?:\
[14:04] <livingdaylight> scizzo-, really?
[14:04] <compwiz18> oops, my mistake, there is  aserver isntall :)
[14:04] <scizzo-> livingdaylight: try it
[14:04] <compwiz18> Yoni: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[14:04]  * Pelo wonders if there is going to be a dvd 
[14:04] <neeto> lunchbox330: did you ever get 3d windows to work?
[14:04] <shane2peru> Yoni, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  look for torrent
[14:04] <D0pamine> where is trash:// located , some files are in there owned by root
[14:04] <gord_slater> bazhang: haha never tried it meself gotta look when i get away from this damn win32 box :)
[14:04] <compwiz18> Pelo: get your dvd on http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[14:04] <dsargean1> cnr: I'm running it now
[14:04] <D0pamine> cant delete them
[14:04] <rohan> one question - can i run it using a pen drive? i've got no blank cd-r(w) handy :(
[14:04] <Akari> Only server and alternate install have *.jigdo files there hmm
[14:04] <compwiz18> Pelo: I take that back :) but there is a dvd, I'm downloading it now
[14:04] <Pelo> compwiz18, no dvd on there
[14:04] <mok0> Yoni: You want the alternate CD?
[14:04] <Pelo> compwiz18, torrent ?
[14:04] <livingdaylight> scizzo-, do i need to mess with sources list first and replace gutsy with hardy?
[14:04] <shane2peru> rohan, quick run and buy a cd, lol
[14:04] <compwiz18> Pelo: yep
[14:05] <Pelo> compwiz18,   gimme ?
[14:05] <andash> D0pamine: ~/.Trash/ I think
[14:05] <scizzo-> livingdaylight: do-release-upgrade will fix all that for you
[14:05] <compwiz18> livingdaylight: System -> Admin -> Update Manager
[14:05] <XB23> is it possible to block someone from running a ircd using iptables?
[14:05] <rohan> shane2peru: well that'd be an unnecessary waste of money :(
[14:05] <Pici> D0pamine: in Hardy? ./.local/share/Trash
[14:05] <XB23> via username
[14:05] <compwiz18> Pelo: sure, hang tight for a sec
[14:05] <Pici> D0pamine: sorry, ~/.local/share/Trash
[14:05] <LogicalDash> Where is the torrent file of Hardy?
[14:05] <rohan> fedora, for example, has a livecd-to-usb script. does ubuntu have one?
[14:05] <gord_slater> bazhang: i really meant for first-time users as part of a "new users start here" thing
[14:05] <D0pamine> ahh cheers Pici
[14:05] <rohan> LogicalDash: in the /topic
[14:05] <livingdaylight> compwiz18, woah
[14:05] <bazhang> rohan aye but will be much slower
[14:05] <cnr> dsargean1: thx - so i propably got broken iso img
[14:05] <shane2peru> rohan, I think you can us a usb, or even the iso file if you have an extra partition, but I'm not sure how.
[14:05] <Pelo> LogicalDash, compwiz18  is getting the dvd torrent for me now ,   cd torrent on the site
[14:05] <rohan> bazhang: yes, where are the instructions?
[14:05] <LogicalDash> rohan, *facepalm* and thanks
[14:05] <D0pamine> why is it not just in ~/.Trash
[14:05] <bazhang> gord_slater: right I get your point, but really it is that simple
[14:06] <pax```> Hello, I've got a problem with the language switcher, I have it set so alt-shift would change languages, however on bootup it doesn't register the hotkey, I have to open the layout options dialog, uncheck and check again the checkbox for alt-shift, close the dialog so it would start switching language on alt-shift. Is there a solution to this?
[14:06] <Akari> cnr: If there is just a small error in your iso you can use torrent to fix it fast
[14:06] <compwiz18> Pelo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/release/
[14:06] <bazhang> www.pendrivelinux.com rohan
[14:06] <gord_slater> bazhang: k, i check it out later
[14:06] <compwiz18> Pelo: should be in there
[14:06] <rohan> bazhang: i don't mind if it's slow, as it is i'm going to install it.. been using ubuntu from the 6.06 release now ;)
[14:06] <shane2peru> D0pamine, there are two .Trash, one is root
[14:06] <icesword> bazhang, when you annouced the release
[14:06] <Pelo> compwiz18, thanks
[14:06] <mok0> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:06] <D0pamine> i have no ~/.Trash :S
[14:06] <mok0> for torrents ^
[14:06] <shane2peru> D0pamine, I think the other is cd /home/.Trash
[14:06] <lunchbox330> neeto, i havent been messing with it too much, i've had this prob before on a different box in gutsy and i fixed it, though i dont remember how
[14:06] <cnr> Akari: ok, thx!
[14:06] <bazhang> icesword: not sure what you mean?
[14:06] <compwiz18> Pelo: no problem, hope it works, heard reports that cdimage.ubuntu.com is a little dead today ;)
[14:06] <Akari> Hardy Heron : The most hyped OpenSource OS ever ^^
[14:07] <D0pamine> nah , that'd be gentoo 2008.0
[14:07] <shane2peru> D0pamine, no it is  sudo cd /home/.Trash-root
[14:07] <Yoni> I'm downloading it directlly from the web site of Ubuntu :)
[14:07] <jtravnick> how safe is doing an update verses a fresh install with hardy?
[14:07] <Yoni> Hope it's the final one & not RC...
[14:07] <Yoni> :\
[14:07] <rohan> bazhang: that guide still forces me to first burn a disc
[14:07] <neeto> lunchbox330: alright I'ma just cross my fingers and hope for the best then... I've screwed around a lot with compiz in the past, so I think I can probably fix it again if need be.
[14:07] <Pelo> compwiz18, it's taking it's time loading , 'll dl all the torrents and up them up on demonoid, just for the heck of it
[14:07] <compwiz18> I'd be interested to know how much bandwidth we're using
[14:07] <shane2peru> Yoni, it is the final, did you get the torrent?
[14:07] <Yoni> noop...
[14:07] <Yoni> :\
[14:07] <Akari> Yoni: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ is the official release
[14:07] <compwiz18> Pelo: yeah, sorry :/
[14:07] <Pelo> compwiz18, I woudn'T want the bitt
[14:08] <Pelo> bill
[14:08] <D0pamine> also , is it a big job to remove sudo , i'd much rather have proper root and user ya know
[14:08] <Yoni> Thx Akari :)
[14:08] <shane2peru> Yoni, ahh, the torrent is faster, alot of people are seeding
[14:08] <compwiz18> Pelo: I can't sent the .torrent to you if you want
[14:08] <compwiz18> Pelo: sorry, *can*
[14:08] <Pelo> compwiz18, I would appreciate it
[14:08] <peter_> Congratulations on the release!
[14:08] <compwiz18> Pelo: ok
[14:08] <shane2peru> Yoni, I'm downloading at 45Kib which is the fastest my connection can dl
[14:08] <Smegzor> yay its out, and I have nothing to download :D
[14:08] <Y0Gi> hey. can anybody tell me which way http://packages.ubuntu.com/ uses to determine the default release in the select menu? is there any? I use hardy since many weeks, but not it's released and still "gutsy" is selected by default :(
[14:08] <grindhold> <3 ubuntu !!!1!one!11eleven!1
[14:08] <bazhang> rohan: what is your final goal; to avoid using a disk? you can use unetbootin for that then
[14:08] <twistage> The update manager doesn't seem to be bogged down i'm hitting 500 kb/s+
[14:08] <ubuntu_> how do i check in the terminal wheter i am using i386 or amd64 version of ubuntu atm
[14:08] <Sake> I went to http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ and the link for ubuntu-desktop-i386 seems to be dead. What gives?
[14:08] <v0lksman> can you disable policykit by just un-installing it or will that fubar the network-admin and user-admin apps?
[14:09] <TB`> Does TrackMania work on latest Ubuntu?
[14:09] <Akari> D0pamine: sudo is a philosophy
[14:09] <b13> the torrent is really slow for me
[14:09] <jrib> Y0Gi: there's just a default that should be updated relatively soon
[14:09] <Pelo> Y0Gi, it's possible taht the page is not updated yet
[14:09] <Pici> Y0Gi: Its a static page
[14:09] <Y0Gi> I already sniffed the HTTP dialogue, but didn't find anything that looks like some identifier. and the user-agent shouldn't be it.
[14:09] <Mimi> ubuntu_     uname -a     in command prompt
[14:09] <Smegzor> TB`: Yes
[14:09] <rohan> bazhang: final goal is to install from iso without burning it to a cd.. and yes, unetbootin is nice, thanks :)
[14:09] <v0lksman> ubuntu_:  uname -r
[14:09] <TB`> Ty Smegzor
[14:09] <shane2peru> b13, really?  slower than the http?
[14:09] <gord_slater> err, rohan, would wubi be any use to you (windows environment right now?) or use a mini iso/ netbooty
[14:09] <compwiz18> Pelo: hang on a second :)
[14:09] <b13> yea
[14:09] <Akari> b13: Did you limit your upload to about 80% of your bandwidth or just use a bt client out of the box?
[14:09] <Y0Gi> jrib, Pelo, Pici: I see, thank you very much.
[14:09]  * Pelo hangs on for dear life
[14:09] <Smegzor> specifically TM Forever works (but no sound)
[14:09] <grindhold> TB' i dont think so. it depends on how wine has been improved
[14:09] <b13> yep
[14:09] <shane2peru> b13, wow, perhaps something isn't configured right.
[14:09] <D0pamine> uhm
[14:09] <b13> dunno
[14:09] <luka> ubuntu homepage has been broken since last update on firefox 2.0. where should i file the bug?
[14:09] <D0pamine> still cant find the trash
[14:10] <b13> i will cheak the http
[14:10] <ubuntu_> Mimi: it says  "x86_64" what does that mean
[14:10] <Pelo> luka, broken how ?
[14:10] <luka> css error
[14:10] <Skiessi> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download :o
[14:10] <bazhang> ubuntu_: that is 64 bit
[14:10] <grindhold> Smegzor: does the wine version in 8.04 "emulate" directx 9.0c?
[14:10] <shane2peru> ubuntu_, that is for 64bit
[14:10] <dakk> link to torrent doesn't appear to be working
[14:10] <throe> is hardy heron out yet?
[14:10] <shane2peru> ahh, bazhang you type too fast. lol
[14:10] <Pici> luka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/
[14:10] <tarzeau> throe: yes
[14:10] <Mimi> ubuntu_ It means you have intel 64 bit processor.
[14:10] <Niptech> hi
[14:10] <bazhang> throe: aye
[14:10] <grindhold> throe: yes 30 mins ago
[14:10] <Akari> b13: you need to limit your upload to about 80% of your upload speed otherwise your torrent jams itself
[14:10] <bazhang> shane2peru: ;]
[14:10] <andrer> is the ALTERNATE installer still necessary for raid/LVM installs?
[14:11] <ubuntu_> ok so i should install 64 bit ubuntu
[14:11] <Akari> I got about 2.5 MB/second from the torrent
[14:11] <Pelo> compwiz18, sorry , I usualy block  pm , try again
[14:11] <Smegzor> grindhold: you'd want to ask that in #winehq
[14:11] <Skiessi> why the server is down?
[14:11] <grindhold> Smegzor: roger that :)
[14:11] <b13> Akari: i know, it is configured right
[14:11] <Skiessi> ok it's working again
[14:11] <monkeyBox> omg I think I just killed ubuntu.com
[14:11] <shane2peru> why does my transmision say "Tracker hasn't responded yet."  ???  I"m uploading and downloading
[14:11] <Pelo> compwiz18, thanks
[14:11] <Akari> Ok I'm seeding with 500kb/sec right now
[14:11] <gord_slater> andrer: lotta people prefer the alternate anyways.....
[14:11] <D0pamine> anyone know the path where deleted items are kept ?
[14:11] <bazhang> this may break bit torrent. thanks guys ;[
[14:11] <Niptech> Can anyone tell me what the different between Ubunto to Kubunto ? what is the KDE maen ..?
[14:11] <Stroganoff> please confirm and post logfiles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-installer/+bug/202959
[14:11] <D0pamine> i have nothing in ~/
[14:11] <compwiz18> Pelo: no problem :)
[14:11] <tarzeau> Akari: i can send/recieve 100mbyte/s
[14:11] <prateek> I have the Kubuntu RC desktop iso. How do I update it to the final one with Jigdo? http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/8.04/ doesn't seem to have the necessary jigdo file.
[14:11] <tarzeau> Akari: http://krum.ethz.ch/iso/
[14:11] <soc> hi
[14:11] <Bagualas> yeahhh ubuntu download finished :D
[14:11] <compwiz18> I've got the amd64 dvd torrent, if anyone wants it, just PM
[14:12] <soc> will http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktop/features be updated too?
[14:12] <micha__> Niptech: KDE is another Desktopenvironment
[14:12] <Light-> T_T: Tracker Status: Alert: Connection refused (HTTP code=-1, times in a row=4
[14:12] <Pelo> compwiz18, are you .torrent encrypted or someting ?
[14:12] <bazhang> Niptech: www.distrowatch.com has screenshots--take a look your self
[14:12] <Mimi> D0pamine,  i think its /home/yourname/trash
[14:12] <v0lksman> how do you disable policy kit?
[14:12] <shane2peru> !KDE | Niptech
[14:12] <ubotu> Niptech: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[14:12] <micha__> Niptech: similar to gnome, have a look at www.kde.org
[14:12] <rohan> v0lksman: why would you want to/
[14:12] <compwiz18> Pelo: no, its just the way transmission stores it I think
[14:12] <marvxxx> is there a way to upgrade ubuntu server from cd?
[14:12] <shane2peru> !Gnome | Niptech
[14:12] <ubotu> Niptech: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[14:12] <marvxxx> cause i have no gnome on it
[14:12] <spsneo> when is ubuntu 8.04 releasing
[14:12] <soc> "Firefox 2.0 is a powerful, award-winning and   standards compliant web browser. [...] New features in 2.0 include inline spell check support in web forms, restore session that crashed, [...]"
[14:12] <spsneo> ?
[14:12] <monkeyBox> I went there and the page looked odd, so I refreshed,  now it's temporarily unavailable.   It's all my fault.
[14:12] <Yoni> There is only 19 seeders for the 64bit 8.04 torrent :
[14:12] <Yoni> :\
[14:12] <Mimi> marvxxx,  YES, get ALTERNATE CD
[14:12] <v0lksman> rohan:  cause its not working....the "unlock" buttons are always greyed out....
[14:12] <bazhang> spsneo: already there
[14:12] <Pelo> compwiz18, I can' t use that then, the filename is just gibberish
[14:12] <marvxxx> Mimi: ok
[14:12] <Yoni> 50+ now :)
[14:12] <_oOMOo_> D0pamine, are you using hardy?
[14:12] <Yoni> this is much better.
[14:12] <soc> maybe at least replacing 2.0 with 3.0
[14:12] <spsneo> whats the uRL to download
[14:12] <spsneo> ?
[14:12] <julle__> how do i upgrade från server beta to LTS version via the terminal?
[14:13] <Light-> <Yoni> There is only 19 seeders for the 64bit 8.04 torrent : <-- no, theres almost 1000
[14:13] <compwiz18> Pelo: feel free to rename it
[14:13] <spsneo> bazhang: whats the URL to download
[14:13] <Light-> OHSHI
[14:13] <Akari> Yoni: I have a sempron amd64 and still get the i386 version. Amd64 caused nothing but trouble
[14:13] <Adys> Bleah, http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ just went under 503
[14:13] <jburd> The ubuntu.com website is down!
[14:13] <bazhang> spsneo: see the /topic
[14:13] <Pelo> compwiz18, nvm,  amd64 , thanks for trying
[14:13] <Niptech> micha__, Kubunto just have nicer GUI ?
[14:13] <Light-> I accidentally downloaded the i386 torrent
[14:13] <arvind_k> julle_, update-manager -d
[14:13] <Adys> oh nm
[14:13] <monkeyBox> spsneo,  ubuntu.com
[14:13] <pax```> (posting this message again, was d/ced) Hello, I've got a problem with the keyboard layout applet, I have to uncheck and recheck the checkbox near alt-shift after every reboot for the keyboard layout to switch on alt-shift, is there a solution to this? Been that way since the early betas of hardy
[14:13] <Yoni> dunno.. my dl stream is still slow.
[14:13] <rohan> jburd: not down, just heavily under load. for eg, it's working perfectly here
[14:13] <micha__> Niptech: depends on whom you ask^^
[14:13] <bazhang> Niptech: opinions vary
[14:13] <julle__> arvind_k: thank you!
[14:13] <Yoni> although I allowed max bandwidth for this 1..
[14:13] <arvind_k> julle_, you are welcome
[14:13] <jburd> rohan: Service Temporarily Unavailable.
[14:13] <micha__> Niptech: to be diplomatic lets say different
[14:13] <Pelo> Light-, for the dvd ? can I have it ?
[14:13] <shane2peru> why does Transmision (torrent client for hardy) say "Tracker hasn't responded yet." I'm seeding and downloading
[14:14] <Yoni> 650kb/bps download
[14:14] <gustavoimago> change the topic >  hardy heron is out... you'll never go back...
[14:14] <Yoni> 65/bps upload
[14:14] <Yoni> This is all I've got...
[14:14]  * jburd needs to know the torrent mirrors
[14:14] <SeanTater> Is torrent.ubuntu.com down? I cannot get a list of peers..
[14:14] <bazhang> shane2peru: we broke bit torrent ;[
[14:14] <Myrtti> shane2peru: because the trackers died :-P
[14:14] <neeto> is upgrading with the iso completely seamless?
[14:14] <rohan> jburd: well, all the pages are loading fine and fast here.. just keep trying :)
[14:14] <chico> Hi! Does anyone know if the wpa enterprise networks are now saved in Hardy?
[14:14] <jamessfoster> Tracker isn't responding for me. Is that normal? (7 mins and counting)
[14:14] <micha__> Niptech: but yes, it is nicer (and now flame me^^)
[14:14] <Light-> <Pelo> Light-, for the dvd ? can I have it ? <-- huh?
[14:14] <Adys> shane2peru: problem with the tracker, not transmission
[14:14] <Smegzor> grindhold: In my experience, directx 9.0c stuff works well in Wine.  I can play most games from a clean wine install.  I do add some registry hacks however to improve performance.
[14:14] <kholo> Hi. I'm just taking a look...
[14:14] <shane2peru> bazhang, Myrtti Adys ahh, ok, so it isn't me. :)
[14:14] <mok0> Hmm. The tracker is not in good shape...
[14:14] <jburd> rohan: Can you email torrents?
[14:14] <bazhang> kholo: it is out if you are curious
[14:14] <Pelo> Light-, you accidentaly downloaded the torrent for i386 if it's the dvd torrent can you please dcc it to me ?
[14:15] <Akari> bazhang: I doubt that you can break BT. Instead the people downloading the ISO will break the webserver
[14:15] <Myrtti> there we go
=== bknox is now known as bknoxx
[14:15] <throe> so if I was running beta, I do what?
[14:15] <Light-> Pelo: No, its the one in the topic
[14:15] <rohan> jburd: sure
[14:15] <shane2peru> jburd, just download them from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:15] <grindhold> Smegzor: sounds nice.. i'll have to read some tutorials.. till now, steam cs:s always crashed within 1 minute
[14:15] <bazhang> Akari: was humor ;]
[14:15] <Akari> throe: Online update
[14:15] <Light-> damn ubuntu tracker is refusing my connections
[14:15] <shane2peru> jburd, they are small
[14:15] <micha__> Niptech: thought, gnome is somewhat better supported in the *buntu universe
[14:15] <emj> Do net install instead of downloading the ISO..
[14:15] <throe> akari: just apt-get update and upgrade?
[14:15] <jburd> shane2peru: Ah that's the only link that opened so far.
[14:15] <Niptech> micha__, I mean does the only different is the GUI ? (U to Kubuntu )
[14:15] <rohan> jburd: tell me which one you want
[14:15] <Smegzor> grindhold: all the Steam games work flawlessly for me.  Better than in native XP.
[14:15] <micha__> Niptech: Yes
[14:15] <shane2peru> Niptech, if you don't know the difference just give Ubuntu Desktop a try
[14:15] <bazhang> Niptech: because gnome users need the support more ;]
[14:15] <D0pamine> i think i'm going to format this hdd and install something a little simpler than hardy heron
[14:16] <kholo> Actually it's been a while since I didn't use an irc client. I was just wondering what people were talking about here.
[14:16] <Pelo> Niptech, gui related apps as well
[14:16] <shane2peru> Niptech, then later you can try KDE too.
[14:16] <arvind_k> bazhang, thats rude !!!!
[14:16] <D0pamine> why is trash vfs ???
[14:16] <v0lksman> rohan:  I'm demoing Ubuntu to my boss today and really need the admin features to work.  Polkit is fubard for some reason (I've had this problem before and I think it has to do with this being a "server" build with desktop added after).  Any ideas on fixing or disabling polkit?
[14:16] <bullgard4> What is the proper place to store GNOME source code files in Hardy?
[14:16] <micha__> Niptech: You can even switch later by a few clicks to the other DE
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[14:16] <Akari> throe: Doesn't your update manager offer you a button for upgrading?
[14:16] <pax```> Hello, I've got a problem with the keyboard layout applet, I have to uncheck and recheck the checkbox near alt-shift after every reboot for the keyboard layout to switch on those keys, is there a solution to this? Been that way since the early betas of hardy
[14:16] <Pelo> later folks
[14:16] <grindhold> Smegzor: sick.. have to test it.  err. maybe i didn't test it with my new nvidia graphic-device yet :)
[14:16] <shane2peru> Niptech, it is a matter of personal opinion, and if you don't know the only thing to do is try. :)
[14:16] <PyChild> If I want to upgrade from the CD, do I need the alternate version? Is there a torrent for that?
[14:16] <bazhang> cya Pelo
[14:16] <throe> akari: not really
[14:16] <rohan> PyChild: yes, and yes
[14:16] <qzio> question: if I'm on a macbook should i go with the 386 or with 64-bit?
[14:16] <Akari> PyChild: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ there are all official files
[14:16] <throe> akari: how do I check if I am up to date already
[14:16] <bazhang> PyChild: from cd yes; the torrent is in the topic iirc
[14:16] <rohan> qzio: 64 bit
[14:16] <Niptech> Thanks all
[14:17] <rohan> qzio: if it has core 2 duo
[14:17] <Light-> qzio: depends on your processor
[14:17] <Adys> qzio:  386 if you dont know really
[14:17] <Deckard> gtg bye all ;-)
[14:17] <PyChild> Akari: thank
[14:17] <D0pamine> maybe sabayon or arch
[14:17] <Smegzor> grindhold: I custom built my new pc for wine, linux and virtualisation.  Consequently it flies.
[14:17] <rohan> qzio: if in doubt, though, go for 32bit
[14:17] <ichat> Congrats yall '
[14:17] <Adys> is there a manager around by the way? id like to host a mirror for the isos
[14:17] <tarzeau> Adys: just do it?
[14:17] <Light-> Adys: PM an op?
[14:18] <Mez> !mirror | Adys
[14:18] <ubotu> Adys: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[14:18] <huhsp> hi
[14:18] <LogicalDash> huhsp, hello
[14:18] <Adys> aight
[14:18] <_oOMOo_> D0pamine, the location of the trash folder changed since Gutsy
[14:18] <qzio>  /proc/cpu says "model_name : Genuine Intel (R) CPU 1400 @ 1.83Ghz"; "cpu family : 6"
[14:18] <dakk> torrent link is sluggish but its working
[14:18] <Mimi> Whats the new path _oOMOo_
[14:18] <rohan> v0lksman: what problem are you having, exactly?
[14:18] <tabman> looking for a software which will let me create following type of class diagram: http://www.kidport.com/RefLIB/Science/Animals/Animals.htm
[14:18] <mok0> Keep your torrents running after the iso file has downloaded!
[14:19] <eltech> hey guys.. whats the best widget or screen app to use to display multiple clocks? different states and time zones.. is widgets the best?
[14:19] <ichat> are there any  high bandwidt  seeders for the  hardy trackers?
[14:19] <Light-> qzio: 32bit
[14:19] <v0lksman> rohan:  the unlock buttons on any admin app is greyed out...
[14:19] <gustavoimago> moko after is format heheheheh
[14:19] <tabman> sorry wrong link: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/figures/java/classes-graphicObject.gif
[14:19] <Light-> I think
[14:19] <shane2peru> mok0, wouldn't that be hard if you are installing. lol
[14:19] <bazhang> eltech: with compiz or not
[14:19] <micha__> eltech: On what DE?
[14:19] <Keule> hi there i use 8.04... and i have a nvidia card - the restricted driver is activated - but will not be uses... do anybody know where the problem is - and how to solve it?
[14:19] <_oOMOo_> I'm just trying to find it! :) It's in /usr/local somewhere I think
[14:19] <rohan> v0lksman: add your user to the admin group
[14:19] <tarzeau> ichat: i'm not seeding, but i got a gbit http mirror
[14:19] <erUSUL> Mez: Gutsy ?? someone has to edit the factoid XD
[14:19] <Akari> ichat: I only have 100 mbit
[14:19] <m1r> oh, time to DL :) congratulations ubuntu
[14:19] <qzio> Light-: ok, so that'll be 386 then
[14:19] <v0lksman> rohan:  I have tried to re-install the packages but it made no diff
[14:19] <Mimi> tabman, youre just looking for something that can make a simple table like that?
[14:19] <shane2peru> mok0, kidding of course. :)
[14:19] <eltech> bazhang no heavy graphics need
[14:19] <Light-> qzio: yep
[14:19] <LogicalDash> tabman, try Dia
[14:19] <dejavu4u2> Hello. Can anyone advise if they have working intel HD ICH8/STAC92xx sound & ALPS/GlidePoint touchpad? These worked fine (with exception if input mic) on 7.04 and 7.10, but 8.04 has broken them!
[14:19] <mok0> shane2peru: :-)
[14:19] <Akari> ,1r: You're just an hour late
[14:19] <eltech> micha__ i dont know what DE is :)
[14:19] <v0lksman> rohan: already am part of admin
[14:19] <LogicalDash> tabman, or OpenOffice Draw
[14:19] <grindhold> Keule: tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[14:19] <bazhang> gdesklets perhaps eltech; screenlets for with compiz
[14:19] <mok0> I am seeding all of the isos
[14:20] <m1r> 1675 ppl in the room, nice addition
[14:20] <eltech> bazhang cool thanks :)
[14:20] <Keule> jepp tried it 1000 times
[14:20] <Keule> grindhold:
[14:20] <micha__> eltech: Desktop Environment, i.e. Gnome or KDE?
[14:20] <Akari> RELEASE PARTY! :-)
[14:20] <shane2peru> mok0, how would you start a torrent after an you install?
[14:20] <jrib> eltech: the default clock applet in hardy lets you do that
[14:20] <ichat> im trying to get it, for a   1,4mbit  superseed  (not mutch  but my ips isn't helping mutch
[14:20] <Keule> my gdm theme is also not correct
[14:20] <_oOMOo_> Mimi I was wrong(ish) it's in /home/$username/.local/share/Trash
[14:20] <gord_slater> Adys:   have u seen  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/mirror    ?
[14:20] <shane2peru> mok0, you download, install, then want to seed, how would you do that?
[14:20] <mok0> shane2peru: just start a "download" again
[14:20] <Keule> i have an 1400x1050 screen -but it only shows me an 120
[14:20] <Adys> gord_slater:  got it sorted thanks
[14:20] <eltech> jrib rreally? I was trying to get it working, but .. hmm
[14:20] <Theo_> how do you see how much space is left in your filesystem through CLI?
[14:20] <Light-> man hardly anyone is downlaoding the 64-bit iso
[14:20] <gord_slater> k
[14:20] <eltech> micha__ its gnome
[14:20] <shane2peru> mok0, so you have to download the iso again?
[14:20] <mok0> shane2peru: but leave the iso in the same place
[14:21] <micha__> Theo_: df -h
[14:21] <Keule>  i have an 1400x1050 screen -but it only shows me an 1280x1024 grindhold
[14:21] <grindhold> Keule: fully deinstall the driver and download the latest one from nvidia.com the driver i have load with the restricted manager never worked at my pc, too
[14:21] <D0pamine> so nobody knows how to empty the trash ( i've changed permissions in nautilus ) , would be so easy if i could just cd /there and rm -R the lot
[14:21] <shane2peru> mok0, ahh, ok
[14:21] <Akari> Keule: I had to edit xorg.conf for 7.10 perhaps it's similar problem?
[14:21] <micha__> eltech: I thought it has a builtin worldclock?
[14:21] <D0pamine> but i cannot , its vfs
[14:21] <bazhang> !hardy
[14:21] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[14:21] <andrer> gord_slater: i know some people prefer the alternate version, but my case is that I only do lvm / raid installs and having 1 cd for livecd, and another for install is kind of redundant... if the new livecd  could do both... I would only need one...
[14:21] <mok0> shane2peru: or copy it back from the cd
[14:21] <shane2peru> mok0
[14:21] <ichat> 64bit ??? - hardly any software is ported to 64bit,  so no real  sence to install is there
[14:21] <andoma> !torrents
[14:21] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[14:21] <Keule> Akari: maybe - i cant tell you more.... damn
[14:21] <shane2peru> mok0, ok, thanks
[14:21] <v0lksman> D0pamine:  Trash is usually in ~/.Trash
[14:21] <grindhold> Keule: i think its a sucking driver support oO but i may be wrong
[14:21] <mosno> so 8.04 does full-disk encryption on LVM right?
[14:21] <D0pamine> v0lksman , not in hardy heron
[14:21] <Light-> ichat: You can just compile from source
[14:21] <mosno> i plan to use the alternate CD
[14:21] <_oOMOo_> V0lksman it's changed
[14:22] <v0lksman> Ahhh
[14:22] <Keule> grindhold:  Akari i will download the latest from nvidia and try it this way
[14:22] <D0pamine> its vfs now
[14:22] <v0lksman> haven't gotten there yet
[14:22] <ichat> light -  like OpenOffice ?
[14:22] <v0lksman> hahaha
[14:22] <ichat> dont think soo
[14:22] <grhluna> i downloaded the dev version im not getting any updates yet through the update manager
[14:22] <Mimi> 7%.. ;p
[14:22] <Light-> ichat: It comes with 64bit ubuntu so no need
[14:22] <terminal_dude> WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
[14:22] <grindhold> Keule: okay, tell me how it did
[14:22] <terminal_dude> its out
[14:22] <pax```> I've got a problem with the keyboard layout applet, I have to uncheck and recheck the checkbox near alt-shift after every reboot for the keyboard layout to switch on those keys, is there a solution to this?
[14:22] <terminal_dude> :)
[14:22] <ichat> wow
[14:22] <FloodBot1> terminal_dude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <D0pamine> so this is a bug i'm assuming
[14:22] <D0pamine> should i file a bug ?
[14:22] <_oOMOo_> /home/$username/.local/share/Trash/files/ and /home/$username/.local/share/Trash/info/
[14:22] <Keule> grindhold: i cannot use compiz - i have to use xcompmgr.... thats an other prob - i use nvidia Go 6600
[14:22] <shane2peru> mok0, if the torrent and iso file are in the same location (ie. same folder) it should just start the seeding process then correct?
[14:22] <ichat> does in support the same software than ?
[14:22] <Mimi> !enter | terminal_dude
[14:22] <ubotu> terminal_dude: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:22] <Akari> Keule: As usual having a tad bit older hardware helps
[14:23] <gord_slater> andrer: ah i see, yeah if u need both (assuming it cant do both in one) maybe u could master both onto a live-dvd and have a quick menu choice at boot...
[14:23] <eltech> micha__ or anyone how do i access this and the nice widgetize look for desktop?
[14:23] <terminal_dude> People dose the alternative..version include encrypted hard drive installation
[14:23] <mok0> shane2peru: yes
[14:23] <chillitom> what's the difference between the dvd and the cd?
[14:23] <bazhang> the amount of work to get the bot switch over to hardy and all the factoids is mind-staggering
[14:23] <grindhold> Keule: is the composite extension activated in your xorg.conf?
[14:23] <LainIwakura> Is this channel now 8.04 support?
[14:23] <compwiz18> LainIwakura: yep
[14:23] <LainIwakura> compwiz18: Thanks.
[14:23] <bazhang> LainIwakura: aye
[14:23] <Keule> grindhold:  i think so - do you know the tag?
[14:23] <grindhold> err.. moment
[14:23] <Akari> LainIwakura: Yes but we're haiving some kind of a release party, support will be slow I guess ^^
[14:23] <Pici> !party
[14:23] <ubotu> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[14:23] <v0lksman> rohan:  could it be the kernel?  I'm using -server...maybe it only works with -generic ?
[14:24] <ast_> ./j #python.pl
[14:24] <shane2peru> mok0, ok, great, because I'm going to have to move mine to another larger partition and seed from there, I would like to seed several of them, server, desktop 64bit etc.
[14:24] <mok0> shane2peru: Cool!
[14:24] <grindhold> Keule: in Section "Extensions" there must be an entry like this : Option         "Composite" "1"
[14:24] <Akari> Pici: So much to the theory. In fact everybody is currently installing and playing with Hardy ^^
[14:24] <marvxxx> the nl mirror is so dead..i cant even download the torrent file
[14:24] <nickwebcoukok> Quikc one guys and gals - I dled 8.04 RC, and its working fine, apart from my keyboard. I have the apple aluminium WIRED, and I hit what looks like the Num Lock key (small square with an X thru it) - Now none of the keys work, except some letters type as numbers. I tried deleting the keyboard, restarting, unplugging etc. Nothing works. Any ideas?
[14:24] <shane2peru> mok0, I figure it will help!
[14:24] <Akari> marvxxx: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ there are all official files. Alternate i386 torrent: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent just in case ubuntu.com is down
[14:25] <Mimi>  As soon as the torrent was announced here, there were 7 full copies.... now there are only 3 full copies... What's the deal with that...?
[14:25] <Keule> grindhold:  i dont hav a section "extensions"....  damn
[14:25] <mok0> shane2peru: I am sure it will!
[14:25] <Akari> nickwebcoukok: Ubuntu 8.04 release is our, please update
[14:25] <doug2266778822> how do i change my curser theme?
[14:25] <Hohlraum> mimi: they are installing it? :)
[14:25] <Keule> grindhold: is there any standard xorg.conf?
[14:25] <grindhold> Keule: did compiz work before without thaT?
[14:25] <nickwebcoukok> dling just now, but its incase it happens again
[14:25] <shane2peru> it is a good thing that the Ubuntu install process only takes about 30-45min, one can install and then seed, if it took 2 days like Microsoft, wouldn't be many seeders. lol
[14:25] <Mimi> Good point Hohlraum  :D
[14:25] <sweRascal> toggle --help
[14:25] <sweRascal> toggle -help
[14:25] <D0pamine> k gone :)
[14:25] <testla> the torrent should be posted on ubuntu.com !
[14:26] <elektronik123_> i have problem i want install new version of Ubuntu and i don`t know 8,04 maybe 8,10 it must be i polish version
[14:26] <Akari> Mimi: To install a cd you need to reboot your computer, that's what happened.
[14:26] <mattycoze> hey what does "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'." mean in the cups device settings
[14:26] <mumu> hello every one
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[14:26] <marvxxx> and i can upgrade the ubuntu server with the alternative cd? without problems
[14:26] <Keule> it didnt grindhold my ram runs full and than my system hangs more and more..... do you know what i mean?
[14:26] <PyChild> exit
[14:26] <LogicalDash> doug2266778822: System->Preferences->Appearance, click Customize, go to Pointer
[14:26] <shane2peru> elektronik123_, 8.04 just released and long term support for 3 years
[14:26] <bazhang> elektronik123_: you can specify language--there is no polish version
[14:26] <mluser-work> anyone else having problems reaching 'http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading' ?
[14:26] <mattycoze> i think my cups daemon is screwed :/
[14:26] <Akari> marvxxx: Should be ^^
[14:26] <grindhold> Keule: no i didnt have a problem like that yet
[14:26] <shane2peru> elektronik123_, get it here:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  Torrents are fast!
[14:26] <grindhold> Keule: you think this is caused by compiz? oO
[14:27] <doug2266778822> LogicalDash: i did but i do not see it in there i have a theme downloaded from gnome look but i can not seem to install it.
[14:27] <elektronik123_> maybe 8.10 ?
[14:27] <grzyb> sciagaj nie gadaj
[14:27] <kholo> I'm leaving, upgrading time. Bye
[14:27] <Akari> guten tag :-)
[14:27] <Akari> kholo: Have fun and good luck ^^
[14:27] <throe> so if i got beta, i just aptget update and upgrade?
[14:27] <Keule> grindhold:  i dont know - maybe my hardware - i have that problem since 7.10 on the same laptop - i had that "black-window-bug" i think.... now its better - but the ram-overload is still there
[14:27] <mattycoze> hey, someone what does "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'." mean in the cups device settings
[14:28] <vijay> i just downloaded hardy heron ........ is this md5 hash correct for hardy "8895167a794c5d8dedcc312fc62f1f1f"
[14:28] <Gibson_> hi, I have a small q: with a core2duo cpu should I get the 64bit version of Ubuntu, or the standard?
[14:28] <gord_slater> elektronik123_: 8.04 is latest, out today, sorry dont know about polish - anyone?
[14:28] <Gibson_> thanks
[14:28] <mrkeishii> is it here yet
[14:28] <chillitom> CD vs DVD?
[14:28] <shane2peru> vijay, get the MD5SUM file from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:28] <ssam> vijay, looks good to me
[14:28] <da_> Hello. Somebody know the md5-sum of ubuntu8.04?
[14:28] <mrkeishii> is it here yet
[14:28] <Akari> vijay: Confirmed.
[14:28] <elektronik123_> maybe wait for stable 8.10 version ?
[14:28] <Gibson_> hi, I have a small q: with a core2duo cpu should I get the 64bit version of Ubuntu, or the standard?
[14:28] <grindhold> Keule: for the composite extension try to add the code i sent you to your xorg.conf
[14:28] <grindhold> add it at the last line
[14:29] <Keule> ok
[14:29] <mrkeishii> is it here
[14:29] <noelferreira> final release of hardy heron is already available for download?
[14:29] <shane2peru> elektronik123_, 8.04 should be stable, it is released today, not a Release Candidate.
[14:29] <tarzeau> noelferreira: yes
[14:29] <tarzeau> mrkeishii: yes
[14:29] <ampex> what happene dto #ubuntu+1 ? :)
[14:29] <doug2266778822> elektronik123_: im on 8.10 now and it is stable for me i have had no probs on my end.
[14:29] <jrib> Gibson_: get 32bit unless you need 64bit for a specific reason
[14:29] <ichat> is it advisable to run  the 64bit edition   on a  turion  laptop  with   nforce / gforce  chips
[14:29] <Akari> elektronik123_: "Stable version" means waiting for 8.10
[14:29] <noelferreira> thanks
[14:29] <da_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
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[14:29] <chillitom> CD vs DVD? what's the difference?  just iso format?
[14:29] <LogicalDash> doug2266778822: have you dropped the theme folder in /usr/share/themes?
[14:29] <mrkeishii> but the the website is temporarily Unavailable
[14:29] <Gibson_> thanks jrib
[14:29] <Akari> It's out. Nothings gonna change now
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[14:29] <Keule> grindhold: pleas paste it for me - im not the best programmer - and i dont have an "Extention" section
[14:29] <mrkeishii> but the the website is temporarily Unavailable
[14:29] <vijay> @ shane2peru ... thanx i will check
[14:29] <mattycoze> hey, someone what does "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'." mean in the cups device settings
[14:30] <elektronik123_> hym 8.04 or 8.10 what is better ?
[14:30] <LSG> Does anyone have any clue how to get a Logitech MX1000 working?
[14:30] <elektronik123_> i don`t know
[14:30] <doug2266778822> LogicalDash: no i have it in a folder on the desktop i have curser theme installed but i can not do anything with it . none of the themes from that do not work
[14:30] <arj> plug it in
[14:30] <rohan> elektronik123_: 8.10 is not released
[14:30] <ampex> elektronik123_: does 8.10 even exist?
[14:30] <bazhang> elektronik123_: there is no 8.10
[14:30] <Akari> mrkei: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:30] <Keule> grindhold: but i will purge my nvidia driver and install that one from nvidia directly - or wouldnt you say that?
[14:30] <grindhold> Keule: i sent it to you in a private chanel
[14:30] <enver> can someone help please can't set resolution higher than 640x480
[14:30] <doug2266778822> elektronik123_: sorry 8.04
[14:30] <grindhold> Keule: only 3 lines
[14:30] <LogicalDash> doug2266778822: move it to /usr/share/themes and try again, I guess
[14:30] <elektronik123_> download 8.04 LTS ?
[14:30] <jrib> !fixres > enver (read the private message from ubotu)
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[14:30] <Keule> thanx grindhold
[14:30] <DanaG> heh, mass kicking in #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <DanaG> FUn.
[14:30] <gord_slater> elektronik123_: yes
[14:30] <grindhold> aeh
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[14:31] <doug2266778822> LogicalDash: do i need sudo?
[14:31] <grindhold> only the first 3 lines Keule
[14:31] <LogicalDash> doug2266778822: dunno
[14:31] <LogicalDash> doug2266778822: try without first
[14:31] <mrkeishii> I'm Downloading it
[14:31] <mrkeishii> YEAH
[14:31] <elektronik123_> where i can download it the fastest ? i want polish language
[14:31] <Keule> grindhold: paste what i want - or what you want! :)
[14:31] <mattycoze> DanaG what's going on in +1?
[14:31] <mrkeishii> what time did it release
[14:31] <DanaG> It no longer exists.  It redirects here.
[14:31] <mrkeishii> est
[14:32] <DanaG> Heh:
[14:32] <grindhold> Section "Extensions"
[14:32] <grindhold>     Option         "Composite" "1"
[14:32] <grindhold> EndSection
[14:32] <bazhang> 4o or so minutes ago mrkeishii
[14:32] <jrib> mrkeishii: read the mailing list link in the /topic
[14:32] <grindhold> Keule:
[14:32] <grindhold> Section "Extensions"
[14:32] <grindhold>     Option         "Composite" "1"
[14:32] <grindhold> EndSection
[14:32] <FloodBot1> grindhold: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <mattycoze> heh, well what do they expect?
[14:32] <ibleed> is there anyway i can lookup the speed my memory is being run at on ubuntu?
[14:32] <DanaG> kicked by Seveas: (Seveas)  -- how about a better reason?  kicked by Seveas: (Channel closing)
[14:32] <LSG> Does anyone have any clue how to get a Logitech MX1000 working?
[14:32] <stefg> Hmmm... releases.ubuntu.com is so overloaded that i can't even get the torrent. Anyone has an alternate location for the torrent-file?
[14:32] <mattycoze> hey, someone what does "There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'server-error-service-unavailable'." mean in the cups device settings
[14:32] <doug2266778822> LogicalDash: i also have atlanta theme but it will not show up in ccm. any idea
[14:32] <tarzeau> ibleed: maybe with memtester?
[14:32] <jeffimperial> could anyone point me to the torrent for hardy alternative cd?
[14:32] <ibleed> thank you tarzeau
[14:32]  * elektronik123_ where i can download 8.04 the fastest ? i want polish language
[14:32] <Seveas> DanaG, would be better but this is pointy-clicky in xchat :)
[14:32] <DanaG> atlanta theme?
[14:32] <Keule> grindhold:  one last question - should i delead the xorg.conf - and run the reconfigure? - thanx a lot so far!!
[14:33] <mattycoze> stefg; http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:33] <mattycoze> mine's downloading @ 145kb/s atm :D
[14:33] <DanaG> Or perhaps change the topic:
[14:33] <apal> Hello
[14:33] <DanaG> "Channel closing; bye!"
[14:33] <doug2266778822> yes atlanta DanaG its the fish in the cube.
[14:33] <jeffimperial> could anyone point me to the torrent for hardy alternative cd?
[14:33] <DanaG> atlantis2.
[14:33] <jatt> when is next LTS version out?
[14:33] <grindhold> Keule: just write it in.. i don't know if your xorg.conf contains bugs yet.. if it's bug-free, only add the lines and restart the GUI
[14:34] <fserve> jatt, 2011
[14:34] <bazhang> jatt: today
[14:34] <grindhold> Keule: otherwise reconfigure would be usefull
[14:34] <mattycoze> stefg ahh sorry; you wanted the torrent :p
[14:34] <Adys> jeffimperial:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[14:34] <rohan> v0lksman: i'm sorry, i was away. did you add your user to the "admin" group?
[14:34] <stefg> mattycoze: as i said, i can't even get a /torrent/ from releases.ubuntu
[14:34] <jatt> thanks fserve
[14:34] <rohan> v0lksman: kernel can't cause problems like those
[14:34] <Keule> grindhold: ok ok - but i have a buggy xorg.conf i think...
[14:34] <Keule> ok grindhold thanx a lot! ill try! bye!
[14:34] <jeffimperial> Adys, thanks a bunch!
[14:34] <grindhold> Kelue: cu
[14:35] <gord_slater> elektronik123_: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download   select a location close to you, many keyboard languages included, select at install
[14:35] <stefg> consider releases.ubuntu.com DDOS'ed
[14:35] <DanaG> #ubuntu is a bit too busy for me; I may come back to +1 once that one opens.  If anybody needs me, I usually hang out in #cplug (Cal Poly Linux Users Group).
[14:35] <mattycoze> stefg i'm yet to find the benefit of torrent files, i can't do them anyway cause of my stupid firewall on the stock modem
[14:35] <jeffimperial> laters, peeps
[14:35] <doug2266778822> LogicalDash: i had to do sudo to move it its in theme folder now but i can not find where to make that theme my mouse curser i am wanting the zelda mouse theme.
[14:35]  * grindhold is fetching a cookie (Reallife :>)
[14:35] <DanaG> Error launching "xdg-open 'http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download'": Failed to fork (Cannot allocate memory)
[14:35] <jatt> ugh
[14:35] <elektronik123> clon xD
[14:35] <DanaG> Oh, duh..... I did swapoff a while ago.
[14:35] <mattycoze> can someone help me with getting the CUPS daemon working again on my machien?>
[14:36] <mattycoze> *rather than talk about the recent release :p)
[14:36] <elektronik123> gord_slater out of order xD
[14:36] <Niptech> After i install Compiz Fusion does it matter if my ubuntu is KDE or GNOME ?
[14:36] <Spydon> WAY!
[14:36] <Spydon> is there any kubuntu cd torrents?
[14:37] <rohan> Spydon: yes
[14:37] <Mimi> .....
[14:37] <simonp> is there a way to update my daily alternate 20080422.2 with jigdo?
[14:37] <Mimi> go .. check....
[14:37] <Spydon> rohan, link?
[14:37] <Adys> Niptech: depends, kde and gnome are just desktop environments and the general way your desktop looks, the apps on it, etc
[14:37] <clutsy-ribbon> I was thought it dint matter if you used KDE or Gnome for compiz
[14:37] <rohan> simonp: yes, using jigdo
[14:37] <pSamathideS> hi,
[14:37] <pSamathideS> i can't use turkish font on AMSN, what is the suggestion about that?
[14:37] <DanaG> Seveas: too bad IRC doesn't have a way to programmatically move everybody in one channel to a different channel..... but that'd be abusable, I guess.
[14:37] <rohan> Spydon: on kubuntu.org
[14:37] <Akari> Spydon: Official releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  in case the site is down you can use the alternate download URL: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:37] <simonp> rohan: where's the jigdo file?
[14:37] <v0lksman> rohan:  yeah...I already am part of the admin group....
[14:37] <jdownie> where can I go for instructions on how to get nvidia drivers running? https://help.ubuntu.com/ doesn't show 8.0.4 yet.
[14:37] <erUSUL> stefg: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/
[14:37] <Spydon> Akari, that isnt kubuntu?
[14:37] <Niptech> But Compiz Fusion changes the GUI
[14:37] <elektronik123> i away xD  bye
[14:37] <Akari> Spydon sorry macro discard the i386 torrent link :)
[14:37] <pSamathideS> ehheeemmm :
[14:37] <Spydon> and rohan I can unly find torrent for the dvd there
[14:37] <gord_slater> elektronik123_: hey i'm trying to help that link not work for you?
[14:37] <stefg> erUSUL: brilliant, thx
[14:37] <rohan> v0lksman: strange, it should work, then :-/
[14:37] <farchord> lol help.ubuntu.org is dead
[14:38] <pSamathideS> i can't use turkish font on AMSN, what is the suggestion about that?
[14:38] <pSamathideS> : [
[14:38] <rohan> Spydon: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:38] <bazhang> this is an interesting factoid:
[14:38] <v0lksman> rohan:  yeah...its annoying... :)
[14:38] <doug2266778822> LogicalDash: any other ideas? i have done the best i can on researching this on google.
[14:38] <gord_slater> elektronik123_: works for me right now from polish mirrors...
[14:38] <Spydon> thx rohan
[14:38] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk
[14:38] <ubotu> Package envyng-gtk does not exist in gutsy
[14:38] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk hardy
[14:38] <rohan> simonp: on any mirror
[14:38] <v0lksman> rohan:  I'm pretty sure it has to do with how I built the system (being I did server and then installed ubuntu-desktop on top of it)
[14:38] <ubotu> envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[14:38] <Niptech> Adys, ButCompiz Fusion change the GUI
[14:38] <erUSUL> jdownie: it should be the same as in gutsy system>Admin>restricted drivers
[14:38] <Akari> 1694 users :-) I wonder if the Windows XP release party had such a good attendance
[14:39] <bazhang> niptech no difference with compiz
[14:39] <Adys> Niptech: it only changes the windows and desktop
[14:39] <mattycoze> ~is in need of help; can someone help me with getting the CUPS daemon working again on my machien?>
[14:39] <Adys> s/desktop/workspaces/
[14:39] <erUSUL> stefg: thank hobsee XD
[14:39] <pSamathideS> is there anybody here who has know anything about that?
[14:39] <bazhang> nickrud should be here
[14:39] <rohan> v0lksman: yes, but that still shouldn't cause problems. infact i suggest you to file a bug
[14:39] <erUSUL> bazhang: so envy is now blessed software ??
[14:40] <pSamathideS> heyyyy!
[14:40] <bazhang> erUSUL: for hardy aye
[14:40] <v0lksman> rohan:  was thinking about it...will be my first... ;)
[14:40] <rohan> v0lksman: hehe
[14:40] <pSamathideS> hey heyyyy
[14:40] <pSamathideS> is there anybody here who has know anything about that?
[14:40] <pSamathideS> i can't use turkish font on AMSN, what is the suggestion about that?
[14:40] <bazhang> !fonts | pSamathideS
[14:40] <ubotu> pSamathideS: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:40] <doug2266778822> anyone know how i can get my mouse themes to work i have the zelda one from gnome look. i also have curser theme installed but it wont work.
[14:40] <farchord> Anyone have an alternate page for the upgrade directions for kubuntu? lol
[14:40] <_nano_> There are  more than one hardy-desktop-i386.iso torrents at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/    which one to choose?
[14:41] <Niptech> Akari, Wait for the 29th whn sp3 is out on wu ^^
[14:41] <_oOMOo_> pSamathideS do you have Turkish fonts displaying ok in other apps?
[14:41] <shane2peru> _nano_, get them from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:41] <jdownie> was automatic nvidia or ati driver support the plan for this release, or will the doco explain that installing envyng-gtk is important?
[14:41] <igormorgado> what are the improvements/drawbacks in 64bits version over 32 ?
[14:41] <NekoKun> http://www.sedentario.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/fffggg.jpg :D
[14:41] <pSamathideS> Using font; utf8, Cuntry; Turkey, Os; Ubuntu Berly
[14:41] <shane2peru> _nano_, they are the official release
[14:41] <_nano_> thanks shane2peru
[14:41] <shane2peru> _nano_, no prob
[14:41] <jatt> igormorgado: you can run programs which need more than 4GB of memory
[14:41] <Akari> Niptech: Who cares? I use windows for WoW only.
[14:41] <_nano_> shane2peru: alright
[14:41] <bazhang> jdownie: it is optional for hardy
[14:41] <igormorgado> jatt: omg! =D
[14:42] <mattycoze> my CUPS broke, i need help
[14:42] <jatt> igormorgado: haha not that you need that for normal use
[14:42] <jatt> igormorgado: and anyway you can run 32bit programs in the 64bit version
[14:42] <NekoKun> igormorgado: PVT?
[14:42] <_oOMOo_> mattcoze what is the problem
[14:42] <igormorgado> jatt: only this? I read about some incompatibility with w32codecs in 64bits version.
[14:42] <jdownie> bazhang: that's fine with me, but the hardware option sort of suggested to me that it was installed but not used. gutsy gave a button that just installed it.
[14:42] <igormorgado> NekoKun: ? what?
[14:43] <erUSUL> jatt: to be fair in 32 bits the maximun size of a process is actually lower than the teoricall 4 GB ...
[14:43] <jdownie> bazhang: am I doing something dumb?
[14:43] <bazhang> igormorgado: if you like hassling with flash intsall then 64 bit is a good choice
[14:43] <_oOMOo_> igormorgando there is a w64codecs package at medibuntu
[14:43] <tsp> I'm getting a timeout on the i386 torrent, someone mind dccing?
[14:43] <NekoKun> igormorgado: may I send a pvt msg?
[14:43] <bazhang> jdownie: not sure what you did
[14:43] <jatt> igormorgado: yes, some codecs make problems and AFAIK flash (for youtube and google video) is only available in 32bit versions
[14:43] <prateek> I have the Kubuntu Desktop RC ISO, renamed to kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso. If I download the final version using rsync in that directory, will it download just the differences (reducing data transfer)?
[14:43] <igormorgado> NekoKun: why you should? but ok.
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[14:43] <jdownie> bazhang: nevermind. i'll read more.
[14:43] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> i can't print anything, and i think the CUPS daemon has screwed itself over somehow, whenever i try accessing it it gives me a message like "unavailable"
[14:43] <Cwiiis> bazhang / jatt: flash installs with nsplugins very simply in hardy
[14:43] <igormorgado> jatt: then I will not use 64bit version, since I want it for desktop use.
[14:43] <Cwiiis> (on 64-bit)
[14:44] <Cwiiis> nspluginwrapper even
[14:44] <erUSUL> prateek: no
[14:44] <Achoth> Hello. How do I remove the partitions that are automatically placed on my desktop?
[14:44] <Rockj> Cwiiis, what about java webstart?
[14:44] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> like i can't access the print server either
[14:44] <jatt> igormorgado: you can still use youtube and google video on a 64bit distribution
[14:44] <ubuntuROX> Will the update manager eventually update the beta version?
[14:44] <Rockj> does java have 64bit version yet?
[14:44] <jatt> igormorgado: I do it on my laptop, you can run a 32 bit environment (called chroot) inside your 64 bit environment
=== igormorgado is now known as Lin
[14:44] <Cwiiis> Rockj: I use icedtea, but yeah, if you really want a decent java plugin, 64-bit is a no
[14:44] <tarzeau> Rockj: not as browser plugin
[14:44] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> the server route was to; /var/run/cups/cups.sock
[14:44] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze it's a remote printer I take it? Have you tried restarting CUPS on the server?
[14:44] <mooboo1> i should use 32-bit or 64-bit?
[14:44] <shane2peru> Rockj, it is icedtea, and opensource version of java
[14:44] <aboeysa> #linuxac
[14:44] <tsp> ah there
[14:44] <_Lucretia_> why is it that some of the Ada libs are built for gnat-4.2 andd some others are for 4.1? I find this strange
[14:44] <tarzeau> mooboo1: 32bit if you want youtube and other flash to work
[14:44] <mosno> anyone using an Asus F3SV laptop with Hardy?
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[14:45] <Rockj> Cwiiis, tarzeau shane2peru :  I need Sun Java due to accessing my bank online  - guess Im still stuck on 32bit ;)
[14:45] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> ahh i haven't restarted the CUPS server directly, i've just been going ctrl+alt+bsp to restart GNOME
[14:45] <Cwiiis> mooboo1: flash works fine under 64-bit - Java is a problem, and I've not tried wmv9 yet, but that also might be a problem
[14:45] <shane2peru> Rockj, Icedtea does seem to work fairly well though, I haven't run into problems with it.
[14:45] <prateek> erUSUL: Thanks. How do I get it to download only the differences? There doesn't seem to be a jigdo file either? So I thought maybe rsync will do the trick...
[14:45] <mattycoze> assuming that did the same thing
[14:45] <Lin> jatt: run chrooted environments on desktop is pointless. just for a 4gb+ improvements.
[14:45] <shane2peru> Rockj, only thing I can say is give it a try and see if it works.
[14:45] <ubuntuROX> Does anyone know if the update manager will eventually update the beta release to the final?
[14:45] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze if you can ssh into the server and sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[14:45] <Cwiiis> mooboo1: On the other hand, my system does certain tasks (like compiling) noticeably faster under 64-bit
[14:45] <fserve> ubuntuROX, yes
[14:45] <rohan> ubuntuROX: it will
[14:46] <shane2peru> Rockj, if it works, you are in good shape, if not, you haven't lost anything
[14:46] <bazhang> ubuntuROX: you have the beta now? then just update and you are final
[14:46] <erUSUL> prateek: jidgos are aviable iirc
[14:46] <madrazr> Hi guys
[14:46] <bottiger> are the default repositories dead yet?
[14:46] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> so how would i do the ssh part?
[14:46] <madrazr> Hardy is rocking
[14:46] <Akari> CWiiis: "Noticeably" means 20% or more?
[14:46] <madrazr> shout everyone
[14:46] <madrazr> Hardy is rocking
[14:46] <mattycoze> ssh /etc/init.d/cupsys ??
[14:46] <Cwiiis> Akari: It means 'noticeably', I've no idea about the numbers ;)
[14:46] <bazhang> madrazr: so you said
[14:46] <jatt> Lin: yes for some users there isn't any great advantage in use chroot
[14:46]  * shane2peru scratches his head, wondering how to shout on IRC
[14:46] <ubuntuROX> hmmm,, I did not get any updates today
[14:46] <Akari> Cwiiis: Must be 20% :-)
[14:47] <maek> does anyone know if Apple's time capsule will work with Ubuntu ... like just as a network drive not as a back up solution ??
[14:47] <dtamas> where does gtwitter store datas?
[14:47] <mattycoze> shane2peru (CAPS)
[14:47] <prateek> erUSUL: No jigdos for desktop CDs here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/ :-(
[14:47] <grhluna> i got the release candidate and update manager gives me nothing new
[14:47] <Akari> Apple? *puke*
[14:47] <farchord> Hey guys, anyone know how to upgrade to the refresh version, not the LTS?
[14:47] <grhluna> how come?
[14:47] <ubuntuROX> and it still shows I am booting off of a development version?
[14:47] <shane2peru> mattycoze, ha ha, I guess that would work. :)
[14:47] <rohan> farchord: what? refresh of what?
[14:47] <farchord> I mean Remix AKA KDE 4.0
[14:47] <bazhang> maek no it wont
[14:47] <Stroganoff> any idea whats causing this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/202959
[14:47] <erUSUL> prateek: o dunno for sure about kubuntu ...
[14:47] <farchord> rohan: meant remix, the new kde
[14:47] <prateek> erUSUL: Ok, thanks anyway.
[14:47] <Lin> jatt: I really dont want to bother with chroot in my desktop, I use ubuntu in desktop to dont care at all. I have enough of configurations in my servers. Jailing users, traffic shapping them. =D
[14:47] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze how do you normally administer the print server?
[14:48] <bazhang> farchord: get kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[14:48] <sachael> has anyone heard of smooth scrolling in gtk/gnome?
[14:48] <maek> oh bazhang I cant create a drive on time capsule then mount it in ubuntu ??
[14:48] <farchord> bazhang: that's all!?
[14:48] <bazhang> farchord: aye
[14:48] <red_> hello..after updating, when  i launch a new window or app its top boarder hides beneath the my top panel. how do i resolve this. need help pls...
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[14:48] <jlhenry> Anyone have a torrent link for 8.04 desktop ?
[14:48] <shane2peru> jlhenry, get them here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[14:48] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> ahh just throught the graphic front end
[14:48] <rsk> is there stats for the torrents anywhere?
[14:48] <maek> jlhenry, its in the IRC header
[14:49] <jlhenry> shane2peru, web site does not respond
[14:49] <mattycoze> i've only done it once a few months ago jsut to get it working with my network printer <_oOMOo_>
[14:49] <Akari> WAI www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu is updated to 8.04
[14:49] <Sergeant_Pony> morning
[14:49] <jlhenry> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ down
[14:49] <doug2266778822>  anyone know how i can get my mouse themes to work i have the zelda one from gnome look. i also have curser theme installed but it wont work.
[14:49] <lartza_> How can I monitor my cpu temperature? I have sensors-applet but it wont show. I might have disabled something important for this(acpi?). Could someone help?
[14:49] <mr_boo> hi
[14:49] <mattycoze> jlhenry no it aint
[14:49] <shane2peru> jlhenry, give it another try, it is up and down because of the amount of hits it is getting
[14:49] <mr_boo> i accidently applied the "rm -r" command on a folder
[14:49] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze ok I see, well you can just do it in a terminal on the server, open a terminal and sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[14:49] <thefish> anyone know if there is a way to amplify the sound output in ubu? I have maxed everything in alsamixer, but for some stuff (esp flash) i need to put my ear next to the speaker to hear anything
[14:49] <mayakuza_> need some help. when i try to play some videos in youtube there are some videos that have low sounds
[14:49] <Akari> I really wished HostEurope would offer Ubuntu server for their machines
[14:49] <grhluna> moonchild@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a
[14:49] <grhluna> No LSB modules are available.
[14:49] <grhluna> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[14:49] <grhluna> Description:    Ubuntu 8.04
[14:49] <cl3> hallo
[14:49] <FloodBot1> grhluna: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <grhluna> Release:        8.04
[14:49] <thefish> ^ intel laptop speakers
[14:49] <grhluna> Codename:       hardy
[14:49] <mattycoze> oh okay
[14:49] <shane2peru> jlhenry, what, link do you want, !386 desktop, 64bit, alternate?
[14:49] <gord_slater> elektronik123_: please, try the download, select your keyboard layout/language at install time, it should just work i think, in Polish. Ubuntu is multi-language, but some parts like the first install might be in english only, it depends if anyone has translated everything yet.
[14:50] <Achoth> red_: Are you using Compiz Fusion? Then you have to activate "Place Windows" under "Window Management".
[14:50] <jlhenry> shane2peru, it's ok, I got the page this time :)
[14:50] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> you know these services that are running in the b/g
[14:50] <mr_boo> can i recover files after the "rm -r" command?
[14:50] <jatt> lartza_: I think without acpi you cannot monitor temperature, I do have acpi=off in my grub and cannot...
[14:50] <Q_Continuum> Question: are the DVD installer torrents updated and live yet, or are they still on daily/beta/rc builds?
[14:50] <jatt> mr_boo: no way
[14:50] <mayakuza_> need some help. when i try to play some videos in youtube there are some videos that have low sounds
[14:50] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_>how do I restart, and start them whenever i want to
[14:50] <red_> Acoth yes
[14:50] <jlhenry> for others: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:50] <Lin> is there any torrent to ubuntu DVD:
[14:50] <cl3> halllo brooo
[14:50] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> just asking because it's handy to know
[14:50] <lartza_> jatt: i have acpi disabled in bootupd, i try to enable that and reboot, thx
[14:50] <Lin> is there any torrent to ubuntu DVD? (that was a question)
[14:50] <Q_Continuum> Lin: There usually are, I'm trying to find out if they're available yet...
[14:50] <gord_slater>  elektronik123_:   i dont read Polish but does this tell you anything?   https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-pl
[14:51] <bazhang> mayakuza_: what about when you dl them? still low?
[14:51] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze they should be started at boot if you look in Administration>Services
[14:51] <Achoth> red_: Then activate it!
[14:51] <red_> Acoth: what will i do?..
[14:51] <Lin> Q_Continuum: if you find please tell me.
[14:51] <Q_Continuum> Lin: will do!
[14:51] <Achoth> red_: You have to activate "Place Windows" under "Window Management".
[14:51] <mayakuza_> can i doenload youtube videos?
[14:51] <elektronik123> gord_slater i copy all important data
[14:51] <red_> how? i think i have already since i can do the cube effects
[14:51] <jadams> anyone suggest a good unix-y (cross platform, library or utility) method of transferring multiple files w/ resume?
[14:51] <jlhenry> packet lost from everywhere: http://www.just-ping.com/index.php?vh=www.ubuntu.com&s=ping%21
[14:51] <szachista> elektronik123: #ubuntu-pl maybe?
[14:51] <red_> Acoth :how? i think i have already since i can do the cube effects
[14:52] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> oh yeah i know that but from the command line
[14:52] <lartza_> I think I have acpi... Now what to do?
[14:52] <Keneo> mayakuza_: there are a lot of firefox add-on's to download youtube video's, they'll be in .flv format...
[14:52] <lartza_> Where could I check it's enabled in grub?
[14:52] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> like say i'm out of the graphical environment and just doing it all from commant prompt
[14:52] <elektronik123> szachista i have ban there
[14:52] <evanfraser> hi folks
[14:52] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | mayakuza_
[14:52] <ubotu> mayakuza_: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2008.01.24-1 (hardy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[14:52] <Achoth> red_: That has nothing to do with this effect, use "customize" under the "Visual effects" tab in "Appearance"
[14:52] <lartza_> And maybe I shuold enable temperature monitorin in bios too? :P
[14:52] <Lin> Q_Continuum: I found RC only
[14:52] <gord_slater>  elektronik123_: ok , i think you will be ok, i have french/arabic/malaysian people i have helped so usually no problem, there is no "Polish-only" version you see, maybe like that with Microsoft, but not here :)
[14:52] <mayakuza_> i got ubunto for s
[14:52] <szachista> elkbuntu: it's very hard to get banned there, have you been trolling?
[14:53] <evanfraser> Anyone else having a kernel hang on bootup since upgrading to hardy?
[14:53] <lartza_> Do I need apmd?
[14:53]  * maek loves when a new OS is released ... the activity ... the questions everyone has etc.
[14:53] <lartza_> To monitor temp
[14:53] <evanfraser> 2.6.22 boots fine, but 2.6.24 doesn't
[14:53] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze oh ok, well they're usually added to the init scripts so you can normally sudo /etc/init.d/$yourService start|stop|restart
[14:53] <szachista> ooopps.. I mean elektronik123*
[14:53] <bazhang> szachista: elk is an operator...
[14:53] <kebab> Leeeech
[14:53] <mayakuza_> i diden't understand that
[14:53] <Lin> Q_Continuum: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:53] <evanfraser> Anyone know how I can rectify "checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip magic numbers); looks like an initrd"?
[14:53] <Akari> Official releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  in case the site is down you can use the alternate download URL: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:53] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl mayakuza_
[14:53] <Lin> Q_Continuum: there is 4 files. =/
[14:53] <lartza_> Nooooo! New ubuntu is released :(
[14:54] <Akari> :( ?????
[14:54] <Q_Continuum> Lin: Thanks
[14:54] <orochi_> It isn't that hard to get banned here :> Ask anyone who asked about the release before it was made official
[14:54] <Lin> Q_Continuum: do you know which one?
[14:54] <gord_slater>  elektronik123_: he maybe got booted for calling me "out of order", its a language barrer thing dont worry
[14:54] <kebab> If I upgrade via upgrade manager is it going to break my setup?
[14:54] <maek> I got kicked for posting an MD5 of the hardy iso
[14:54] <bazhang> orochi_: still mad? please dont be
[14:54] <doug2266778822>  anyone know how i can get my mouse themes to work i have the zelda one from gnome look. i also have curser theme installed but it wont work.
[14:54] <Q_Continuum> Lin: Notta clue.  That's the raw tracker data...
[14:54] <Akari> I've never been in order
[14:54] <elektronik123> not you
[14:54] <jorwex> wow is ubuntu.com having problems cuz of everyone trying to get it?
[14:55] <elektronik123> server
[14:55] <lei> 这里有谁会讲中文的？
[14:55] <Ktron> Anyone notice a decrease in performance using Xgl/Compiz-Fusion after upgrading from Gutsy to Hardy?
[14:55] <grindhold> does anyone know if the new openoffice.org 2.4 is coming with 8.04?
[14:55] <Pici> jorwex: yes
[14:55] <Ktron> (besides me)
[14:55] <bazhang> !cn | lei
[14:55] <ubotu> lei: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:55] <jorwex> crazy..all i want is the torrent :)
[14:55] <fserve> grindhold, yes, it is.
[14:55] <TB`> Can't wait for 8.10
[14:55] <Akari> lei: we do not offer chinese support here
[14:55] <grindhold> fserver: hellyeah, thanks :)
[14:55] <elektronik123> gord_slater not you xD
[14:55] <Arelis> What has changed since the release candidate, guys?
[14:55] <lartza_> How many has 8.04 already?
[14:55] <Akari> TB`: You still don't have it?
[14:55] <blue|palm> Hi, ive just started using ubuntu after a while, and now with the ATI catalyst 8.3 driver my ATI X1900XTX can't seem to play video inside compiz. it flickers black-video-black constantly. Is this known?
[14:55] <maek> OMG TB` we are just concerned with hardy atm
[14:55] <bazhang> arelis a few updates
[14:55] <Akari> Official releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  in case the site is down you can use the alternate download URL: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:56] <orochi_> bazhang: I've already contacted Canonical, I'm interested in what they have to say about all of it if anything
[14:56] <LSG> Does anyone have any clue how to get a Logitech MX1000 mouse working?
[14:56] <tim1> bazhang: Which packages have been updated?
[14:56] <Lin> Q_Continuum: i will get the biggerone
[14:56] <julle__> How do i upgrade on Server Edition, i run beta atm?
[14:56] <mayakuza_> oky i typed the code. now what?
[14:56] <Rolcol> Where is the link for the alternate torrent?
[14:56] <gord_slater>  elektronik123_: hey no problem, very veyr busy here today
[14:56] <bazhang> orochi_: okay then no need to repeat here ad nauseam
[14:56] <fserve> julle_, just apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:56] <jorwex> GOT the torrent! woohoo!
[14:56] <maek> PEOPLE STOP ASKING FOR THE TORRENT LINK ITS ON THE HEADER
[14:56] <julle__> fserve: doesn't work
[14:56] <Yodude> hey about the hardy upgrade, if my connection cuts out, will i haver to re-download evrything or will the package manager cache them ?
[14:57] <Akari> LSG: Mouse problems can easily be solved by using the PS/2 connectors instead of USB, this way you save valuable USB ports, too
[14:57] <harvey1> bit of a new question, I "think" I have a 64 bit amd, is there any way to verify which version i should download?
[14:57] <Ktron> Yodude, they cache
[14:57] <doug2266778822>  anyone know how i can get my mouse themes to work i have the zelda one from gnome look. i also have curser theme installed but it wont work.
[14:57] <fserve> julle_, O_O here work : (
[14:57] <farchord> Haha I love this.... upgrading my Kubuntu version from a mirror that's like 1h in car from here.... Downloading it at capped speeds
[14:57] <mrkeishii> what time did hardy heron Released on EST Time
[14:57] <Lin> Yodude: it will cache
[14:57] <fbc> Is there a way to do an upgrade from the desktop CD? or does it have to be the alternative cd?
[14:57] <bazhang> mayakuza_: you do it in the command line man youtube-dl for more info
[14:57] <tarzeau> my mirror is complete: http://krum.ethz.ch/iso/
[14:57] <orochi_> bazhang: I suppose that's another "hint" from a volunteer that I'll be removed if I continue to criticize how the ops handled the release process ;>
[14:57] <Akari> harvey1: You can download the i386 iso it will work and be most compatible
[14:57] <red_> Acoth: it's ok now but launch place isn't consistent. how do i set it to launch at the center of the desktop?
[14:57] <bazhang> fbc: alternate only
[14:57] <Pici> fbc: Has to be the alternate unfortunately
[14:57] <fserve> fbc, have to be alternate
[14:57] <ikerc> If ftp Ok ?
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[14:57] <marvxxx> on the desktop cd there isnt a cdromupgrade...where can i find it?
[14:57] <Yodude> ktron: thnx a bunch c u on hardy !
[14:57] <ikerc> IS Ftp Ok ?
[14:57] <FilipinoYakuza> okay
[14:57] <fserve> marvxxx, alternate cd
[14:58] <erUSUL> harvey1: if you have a 64 bit x86 chip "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm" should return something
[14:58] <marvxxx> oh shit...ok
[14:58] <bazhang> orochi_:  not a hint; just plesae go to #ubuntu-offtopic as it distracting from helping others thanks
[14:58] <FilipinoYakuza> what time did 8.04LTS Come Out on EST Time????
[14:58] <Akari> What does "Is ftp ok" mean please?
[14:58] <mosno> ubuntu alternate CD ftw
[14:58] <marx2k> thetre really should be a cd-rom upgrade option in the non-alternative install CD
[14:58] <erUSUL> marvxxx: alternate CD
[14:58] <mayakuza_> bazhang i typed the code in terminal but how do i use it?
[14:58] <FilipinoYakuza> what does an alternate cd do???????
[14:58] <Akari> FilipinoYakuza: Installing in text mode :)
[14:58] <Pici> !alternate | FilipinoYakuza
[14:58] <ubotu> FilipinoYakuza: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:58] <one_tao> (rubbing awake his eyes...) Hey! There it is !!
[14:58] <marx2k> leads an alternative lifestyle
[14:58] <Arelis> Who thought up the banner on the Ubuntu.com site about the Desktop release? ('We have an uninstall button. Redundant - We know")
[14:58] <FilipinoYakuza> oh
[14:58] <bazhang> mayakuza_: then add the url of the vide you want to download after it
[14:58] <FilipinoYakuza> i hate text mode
[14:58] <orochi_> bazhang: How is the conduct of the volunteers operating this channel not related to this channel?
[14:58] <fserve> FilipinoYakuza, install ubuntu live the desktop only, but with text mode
[14:58] <FyreFoX> are there no isos for ppc in 8.04 ?
[14:58] <tim1> Please use the torrent download instead of the FTP servers.
[14:58] <erUSUL> FilipinoYakuza: it has a traditional debian like instaler without liveCD
[14:59] <rohan> FyreFoX: no
[14:59] <tapas> ah i see, there's no ubuntu+1 anymore
[14:59] <marx2k> I thought PPC was due to be dropped
[14:59] <lartza_> How big was your update? Will gutsy progs work on hardy?...
[14:59] <FilipinoYakuza> oh
[14:59] <ikerc> Akari,  ftp is ok to maj ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 ?
[14:59] <harvey1> erUSUL: it returns a long list of flags
[14:59] <rohan> FyreFoX: i think 6.06 was the last versoin supported for ppc
[14:59] <erUSUL> FilipinoYakuza: it can be used as source of packages to upgrade as well
[14:59] <FilipinoYakuza> oh
[14:59] <Arelis> tim1: I am using a mirror in the Netherlands right now. Isn't that allowed?
[14:59] <vbabiy-laptop> Wow I don't think I have ever seen this many people in the Ubuntu channel
[14:59] <sidewalk> if i want to be able to dist-upgrade with apt-get, do i need to edit /etc/apt/source.list ?
[14:59] <Akari> FilipinoYakuza: Get i386 :-)
[14:59] <bazhang> orochi_: I'd rather not continue this convo thanks
[14:59] <peppers> is www.ubuntu.com down or am I the only one getting a 503 error?
[14:59] <marx2k> sidewalk: no
[14:59] <ikerc> I've 1030 maj its ok ?
[14:59] <FilipinoYakuza> I'm downloading the live Cd of 8.04LTS
[14:59] <erUSUL> harvey1: in which you can see the lm flag (long mode == lm == 64 bits)
[14:59] <rohan> peppers: down
[14:59] <orochi_> bazhang: I'm not surprised :>
[14:59] <Arelis> peppers: itś being overloaded
[14:59] <FilipinoYakuza> not the alternative
[14:59] <fbc> bazhang, Pici fserve , no wonder it's flying... it's only going to take me 30 minutes to download it... cool...
[14:59] <peppers> rohan:  back up aparently :P
[14:59] <gord_slater> occasional 503 last 20 mins for me
[14:59] <rohan> peppers: i mean, sometimes it works, sometimes down
[14:59] <ikerc> not down for me ubuntu.com
[14:59] <SeanTater> Isn't it possible to have more than one tracker for bittorrent? Are there any mirrors for torrent.ubuntu.com?
[14:59] <rohan> peppers: exactly :D
[15:00] <peppers> torrents people, TORRENTS
[15:00] <sidewalk> marx2k: but im not able to upgrade yet?
[15:00] <tapas> ok, since hardy i cannot switch my thinkpad t21 to use the external vga output anymore
[15:00] <Whitor> So... Is this the old #ubuntu+1 channel ?
[15:00] <Q_Continuum> Lin: I'm guessing DVD isos are a bit behind everything else, should be up sometime later today.  I'm pulling down just the Desktop CD ISO for now.
[15:00] <vbabiy-laptop> peppers: is up and down
[15:00] <blue|palm> can anyone help with an fglrx problem in hardy? Im using the restricted driver manager version of fglrx (catalyst 8.3) and video doesn't work in compiz... is there anyone who knows how to fix this?
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[15:00] <LSG> Akari: But it's a wireless mouse
[15:00] <gpled> is their a torrent for the new ubuntu?
[15:00] <bazhang> Whitor: likely yes as that one is now gone
[15:00] <peppers> hmm ok, 8.04 is a big thing heh :P
[15:00] <Pici> Whitor: #ubuntu+1 is closed and forwarded to #ubuntu
[15:00] <xelnaga> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[15:00] <vbabiy-laptop> they are really feeling the hit this time around :D
[15:00] <marx2k> sidewalk: people were saying the dist-upgrade is in the repo now.. you may want to ask around
[15:00] <red_> Acoth: thank you so much for your help...:)
[15:00] <Akari> Official releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  in case the site is down you can use the alternate download URL: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:00] <FyreFoX> rohan: I thought it wasnt supported but I thought you could still install it..?
[15:00] <duaneb> is there a torrent for kubuntu-kde4-hardy?
[15:00] <rajiv_nair> I have ubuntu 7.10(gnome) installed and I installed KDE along with it. If i want to upgrade to hardy using an alternate CD which one should i use. Kubuntu or ubuntu?
[15:00] <LSG> Akari: I don't think a bluetooth hub can be plugged in a PS/2
[15:00] <Ktron> Has anyone said when 8.04 is Supported until?
[15:00] <Arelis> When did it get released?
[15:00] <gpled> xelnaga: thanks
[15:00] <fbc> yes they are all where they should be mow
[15:00] <Whitor> Thanks Pici and Bazhang
[15:00] <fbc> now
[15:00] <Akari> LSG: Ouch ^^
[15:00] <bazhang> duaneb aye
[15:01] <Pici> Ktron: 3 years on the desktop and 5 on the server
[15:01] <harvey1> kk thanks, so is there any advantage in getting the 64bit?
[15:01] <bazhang> about an hour ago arelis
[15:01] <duaneb> bazhang, got a link? pretty please? :)
[15:01] <grhluna> big chance people getting the new ubuntu will love it
[15:01] <Ktron> Pici, Thanks
[15:01] <rohan> rajiv_nair: either, you'll need to download more packages to complete the full dist upgrade anyway
[15:01] <bazhang> duaneb: in the topic
[15:01] <ranjan> rajiv_nair: anyone
[15:01] <yoology> duaneb: topic in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:01] <Akari> harvey: Slight speed increase and more software problems.
[15:01] <Achoth> Hello. How do I remove the partition shorcuts that are automatically placed on my desktop?
[15:01] <shane2peru> ha ha, that is great, there is sooo much traffic I can't get the ubuntu.com page to come up. lol
[15:01] <Arelis> Pici: So.. this thing is far more stable than Gutsy?
[15:01] <tim1> Arelis: I've just downloaded ubuntu over torrent but I only had a speed of 100 KB/s. It will help everybody if you seed since more people are going to switch to Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
[15:01] <sidewalk> marx2k: repo?
[15:01] <rajiv_nair> ranjan: alrightey. thanx for the help
[15:01] <duaneb> yoology, thanks much
[15:01] <marx2k> sidewalk: ask around about dist-upgrade availability
[15:01] <marx2k> !dist-upgrade
[15:01] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:01] <ranjan> rajiv_nair: enjoy
[15:01] <Pici> Arelis: Depends, I didnt have many problems with Gutsy myself
[15:01] <lartza_> Is flightgear included in ubuntu :S When I updated to gutsy flightgear got installed
[15:01] <LSG> Akari: Hehe, yeah, i've been looking all over (except here) for a way to make it work. Every forum i've read only solves the amount of buttons available, but apparently it's supposed to work right from the installation. Mine didn't.
[15:01] <Niptech> Ktron, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition - Supported to 2011
[15:01] <mayakuza_> oky i downloaded but now i can't find the file
[15:02] <Rolcol> can someone get me the link to the kubuntu ISO torrent?
[15:02] <Ktron> Niptech, thanks
[15:02] <bazhang> mayakuza_: in your home folder
[15:02] <Akari> Achoth: Delete the files from ~/.Desktop
[15:02] <Arelis> tim1: what if i download it, then put it in the torrent format so i can seed the downloaded copy (that i downloaded from the mirror)
[15:02] <xelnaga> Rolcol: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[15:02] <lartza_> Is flightgear included in ubuntu :S When I updated to gutsy flightgear got installed
[15:02] <blue|palm> people.... if you want torrents... use a torrent indexer!!!! like isohunt
[15:02] <Rolcol> thank you xelnaga
[15:02] <bazhang> topic in #kubuntu most likely Rolcol
[15:02] <fation_linuX> happy Hardy to all :P
[15:02] <Akari> Achoth: You can edit your /etc/fstab and remove the offending entries
[15:02] <marx2k> I'll let you guys do the early adopting, read about the bug issues for the first week and then install it myself :D
[15:02] <aspin> How do I change the size of the desktop icons?
[15:02] <jorwex> hmm should i be concerned if my torrent is still in the initial stage after 4 minutes?
[15:03] <Achoth> Akari: Alright, thanks :)
[15:03] <harvey1> thanks Akari
[15:03] <lartza_> Is flightgear included in ubuntu :S When I updated to gutsy flightgear got installed
[15:03] <LSG> aspin: Resize? =)
[15:03] <Pici> !info flightgear | lartza_
[15:03] <ubotu> lartza_: flightgear (source: flightgear): Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2330 kB, installed size 6488 kB
[15:03] <blue|palm> www.isohunt.com and search for ubuntu/kubuntu whatever
[15:03] <marx2k> jorwex: sounds like some port issues
[15:03] <jorwex> aspin: right click and go to resize?
[15:03] <bazhang> jorwex: nay; it will pick up trust me ;]
[15:03] <Akari> Yeah early adapting after how many years of Ubuntu? ;-)
[15:03] <Q_Continuum> marx2k: same here, but I'm getting the ISOs now while the torrents are fresh out of the oven :D
[15:03] <tim1> Arelis: It slows down the server and will cost lots of money for the operators of those servers.
[15:03] <lartza_> Pici: TY!
[15:03] <aspin> yes pixels
[15:03] <marx2k> Q_Continuum: same
[15:03] <jorwex> I'm not behind any routers or anything requiring port forwarding
[15:03] <jorwex> aight I'll wait a few more minutes :)
[15:03] <Arelis> tim1: There are so many mirrors. Isn't that spread? I'm not downloading from the main server
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[15:03] <guillaume__> If I installed the RC 2 days ago do i need to reinstall the final version ?!?!?!
[15:04] <bazhang> wow 367kb/s
[15:04] <Arelis> Will my Wacom Bamboo Fun work with hardy?
[15:04] <gord_slater> i dont recall this much excitement when tomsrtbt got a new version...
[15:04] <aspin> no, just update
[15:04] <Zelta> Rolcol: If the torrent does load, try hobbsee.com/tmp/
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[15:04] <mayakuza_> there is still low sond afther i DLd it
[15:04] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> evince has some crazy issues with CUPS
[15:04] <Zelta> *doesn't
[15:04] <bazhang> guillaume__: nay just update and you are final
[15:04] <marcjank_> I got RC 2 days ago too- I'm not seeing the upgrade
[15:04] <luderacer> i was getting it at 2/mbs
[15:04] <Akari> bazhang: Torrent? That's a tad bit slow ^^
[15:04] <Zelta> Because the main servers are a bit slow
[15:04] <tim1> Arelis: Yes, but you have the chance using P2P. There are people out there whose ISPs block (or limit) BitTorrent.
[15:04] <aspin> guillaume__: just update
[15:04] <FilipeR> http://www.tecnovision.it/news.php?Linguaggio=EN&Link=41
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[15:04] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> i think that's the main problem it causes the CUPS daemon to crash unnexpectedly
[15:04] <FilipeR> what configure in the ubuntu 8.04?
[15:04] <FilipeR> http://www.tecnovision.it/news.php?Linguaggio=EN&Link=41
[15:04] <FloodBot1> FilipeR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <bazhang> marcjank_: just update and upgrade
[15:04] <tim1> Akari: Yeah, BitTorrent was very slow here too.
[15:04] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> (i'm trying to print a .pdf)
[15:04] <guillaume__> bazhang : standart update or do I need to use the distro update ?!
[15:04] <Akari> tim1: I'm seeding at 100 mbit max speed not much but it'll help!
[15:04] <marcjank_> ohh, thanks
[15:04] <Sinnerman> there were some kernel modules/drivers (fglrx, ndiswrapper for wifi, and webcam) i had to get and load manually for those items of hardware to work properly; how would upgrading affect the working of those?
[15:05] <mmarsman> what did you do to xmms!!!
[15:05] <tim1> Akari: Thanks.
[15:05] <luderacer> im seeding at 1gb
[15:05] <peppers> ok, torrenting i386 desktop now, will seed soon
[15:05] <bazhang> guillaume__: if you have the beta.rc then just upgrade normally
[15:05] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze I think I can relate to that. You can print ok with OpenOffice?
[15:05] <aspin> nope its update
[15:05] <jorwex> wow torrent is slow
[15:05] <aspin> he already has 8.04
[15:05] <mayakuza_> there is still low sownd on the video
[15:05] <jorwex> i thought it'd be super fast
[15:05] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> yeah that's true, OpenOffice works a charm
[15:05] <Akari> Sinnerman: An upgrade will replace your custom kernel with the default one
[15:05] <majestic1> guillaume__: do apt-get update and then update-manager will show new release
[15:05] <aspin> its just a mater of 120mb of updates
[15:05] <luderacer> ne way im off
[15:05] <bazhang> jorwex: I'll seed for you ;]
[15:05] <markuman> tim1: :-D
[15:05]  * orochi_ is downloading at 250K/s, uploading at 1 ;>
[15:05] <marx2k> Sinnerman: since youre upgrading the kernel you will probably need to rebuild/reinstall the restricted modules
[15:05] <ionstorm> ubuntu.com is down
[15:05] <ionstorm> why?
[15:05] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> well i haven't tried it now, but I haven't had any problems with it
[15:05] <Gman99999> does the upgrade fix the acpi hp laptop sound problems?
[15:05] <jorwex> hehe thanks
[15:05] <Akari> Official releases are here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/  in case the site is down you can use the alternate download URL: http://www.allanime.org/fileadmin/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:05] <ionstorm> Service Temporarily Unavailable Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) Server at www.ubuntu.com Port 80
[15:05] <kmanro3> Q: How to upgrade from 8.04 beta to LTS?
[15:06] <aspin> just go to update manager
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[15:06] <bazhang> ionstorm: hmm busy perhaps? ;]
[15:06] <tim1> markuman: Hey, you're the guy from the German ubuntu channel?
[15:06] <TB`> 8.04?
[15:06] <Akari> ?manro: Standard system upgrade
[15:06] <zaggy-nl> lol http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2244/2436225528_e5c1887fe1_o.png
[15:06] <grindhold> does anyone have so much "dependency problem" warnings in the networkbased upgrad like me? does anyone know why this is not working clearly?
[15:06] <bazhang> kmanro3: just upgrade normally and you are there ;]
[15:06] <markuman> tim1: yeah :-)
[15:06] <zaggy-nl> ubuntu hardy heron poster
[15:06] <mmarsman> !xmms
[15:06] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[15:06] <ranjan> kmanro3: just apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:06] <Sinnerman> Akari: im sorry, i didn't elaborate enough; the kernel is the one that shipped with gutsy. it's the additional modules i have that im concerned about.
[15:06] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze I had some pdfs that refused to print from evince in the past. The only way I found around it was to use Acrobat - I think medibuntu has a .deb
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[15:06] <gord_slater> dmesg
[15:07] <gord_slater> whoops
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[15:07] <rodolfo_> hi! what's the version of Linux kernel that comes with U8?
[15:07] <marcjank_> I did sudo apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade, and it did not update my RC
[15:07] <rsk> U8?
[15:07] <Sinnerman> marx2k: oops. and with no guarantees that it'll work... :(
[15:07] <bazhang> rodolfo_: 24
[15:07] <peppers> weird, the torrent tracker is refusing my conenction. ideas?
[15:07] <jburd> rodolfo_: 2.6.24
[15:07] <stimpie> I have just upgraded to 8.04 and now my screen is bigger then my screen resolution
[15:07] <steve_pearce> oh well, tried to change nick to torrent address to stop people asking where it is
[15:07] <erphan> OMG
[15:07] <duaneb> Is there a mirror for the kubuntu iso?
[15:07] <Achoth> Akari: How exactly do I remove them from ~/.Desktop?
[15:07] <LSG> Does anyone have any clue how to get a Logitech MX1000 mouse working?
[15:07] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> heh, these pdf's were made by M$ word btw :p
[15:07] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> so no doubt why it won't work
[15:07] <rodolfo_> hmm so why does the installer fails to continue with the installation..?
[15:07] <Oprtz> hi, i am using ubuntu 7.10 with Intel 946GZ motherboard and internal vga that doesn't install in ubuntu automatically, u need to install the drivers seperatly and then it will work with ubuntu and compiz, do i download new ubuntu and install a clean installation or just upgrade it?
[15:07] <kmanro3> is this the current version? No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	UbuntuDescription:	Ubuntu 8.04 Release:	8.04 Codename:	hardy
[15:07] <bazhang> duaneb: should be in #kubuntu-kde4 topic
[15:07] <jorwex> @LSG: it doesn't work by default?
[15:07] <Koheleth> How do I alter the size of the desktop icons?
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[15:08] <bazhang> kmanro3: aye
[15:08] <duaneb> bazhang, yea, but the site's down
[15:08] <jorwex> damn how do you do that..
[15:08] <kmanro3> ah ok thx.
[15:08] <LSG> jorwex: No...it's supposed to, isn't it?
[15:08] <steve_pearce> duaneb: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[15:08] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze I'd love to say I'm surprised :)
[15:08] <toni> does anyone know where I can find an official .torrent?
[15:08] <tim1> LSG: I have this mouse but it's working out-of-the-box here.
[15:08] <jeffimperial> now that the bustling is starting to subside... how does one enter the BIOS in a hardy machine? I have an Intel Desktop board
[15:08] <Akari> LOL that movie ad is great thanks for sharing
[15:08] <jorwex> mine works in Gutsy without any issues
[15:08] <duaneb> steve_pearce, thanks
[15:08] <marcjank_> for newer mice, you may need to write your own driver
[15:08] <Juan> Does anyone know how to get Nautilus to list items without extra columns like Windows Explorer does?
[15:08] <jorwex> no extra buttons tho
[15:08] <biagidp> Do any Thunderbird users know how I can minimize it to my gnome tray?
[15:08] <tim1> LSG: Are you using Hardy?
[15:08] <Zelta> toni: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/
[15:08] <marcjank_> I use an mx310, that's what I had to do
[15:08] <ubunturox> most of my hardware i had to tweak nuttin!!
[15:08] <guillaume__> I just did the apt-get dist-upgrade and it did not upgrade my RC
[15:08] <mooboo1> 230 kb/s from torrent, this sucks, from local mirror, i would have downloaded 5 megabyte second
[15:08] <mooboo1> or 10
[15:08] <marcjank_> me too guillaume
[15:08] <grindhold> does anyone have so much "dependency problem" warnings in the networkbased upgrad like me? does anyone know why this is not working clearly?
[15:08] <ikerc> Ubuntu 8.04 LTS for desktops -> You'll never Go Back
[15:09] <ionstorm> guillaume__, same w/me
[15:09] <Koheleth> how do you know you have rc anymore
[15:09] <LSG> tim1: Yeah, i've read everywhere that it does, but mine somehow didn't. And no, i'm still using Gutsy.
[15:09] <xngear> mooboo1: 5 mb? that sucks, i dowload at 12
[15:09] <jorwex> i keep meaning to use this guide tho: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MX1000_Buttons
[15:09] <bazhang> guillaume__: no need to dist-upgarde, just regular upgrade is fine
[15:09] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze some pdfs have security built in which I'm not sure evince supports as yet, IIRC
[15:09] <mmarsman> bring back xmms!
[15:09] <mmarsman> in the repo that is :D
[15:09] <gord_slater> jeffimperial
[15:09] <mooboo1> xngear, wow you have fast internet
[15:09] <tim1> LSG: Maybe that's the reason. I've just tested it on Hardy.
[15:09] <Ktron> Anyway, Happy Release Day, I'm out of here to get work done
[15:09] <jeffimperial> yeah, gord
[15:09] <ionstorm> update-manager doesnt upgrade rc , what is a good repo
[15:09] <marcjank_> I did sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade and it didn't do it
[15:09] <Koheleth> guillaume__: type this lsb_release -a
[15:09] <tim1> LSG: When I was using Microsoft Windows XP some years ago, I also needed some drivers.
[15:09] <Pici> !final | ionstorm
[15:09] <ubotu> ionstorm: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Hardy. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.
[15:09] <gord_slater> jeffimperial: same way as in windows or gutsy, if that helps
[15:09] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> what is IIRC?
[15:09] <duese> website down?
[15:10] <tim1> mattycoze: It's an abbreviation afaik.
[15:10] <MEtaLpREs> well the upgraded worked and my computer started back up, thats always a plus
[15:10] <bazhang> marcjank_: lsb_release -a shows what
[15:10] <jeffimperial> gord_slater, that was the first thing I tried.. didn't work
[15:10] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze it means if I remember correctly
[15:10] <Koheleth> your version
[15:10] <gord_slater> jeffimperial: its hardware dependant, not OS dependant, try F2, DEL, F10 etc
[15:10] <grindhold> why are there so many dependency errors while upgrading?
[15:10] <grindhold> may anyone help me
[15:10] <mattycoze> oh okay
[15:10] <rohan> grindhold: must be some third party software which you've installed
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[15:10] <Juan> Does anyone know how to get Nautilus to list items without extra columns like Windows Explorer does? So instead of only having 1 column list all items in a folder, with the other columns used for Size, Date, etc, have multiple columns of only items?
[15:10] <steve_pearce> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 is now being hammered people, be patient
[15:10] <Frozenball> Can anyone tell the MD5 of the page?
[15:10] <bazhang> grindhold: plesae pastebin your sources.list
[15:11] <mattycoze> lol thx,
[15:11] <LSG> tim1: Odd. It worked without even installing it on WinXP. Meh, if it works off the box in Hardy i'll just wait until i upgrade. Getting tired of this crappy mouse i'm using now though =(
[15:11] <Frozenball> *of the ubuntu-desktop-i38n
[15:11] <cryptolife> nautilus still without tabs !
[15:11] <Frozenball> *386
[15:11] <rodolfo_> have this ever happened to any of you guys? =>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221282
[15:11] <gord_slater> jeffimperial: hmm, ok, then truy a cold shutdown, then boot by power-button-press, some boards need that
[15:11] <marcjank_> so, if I lsb_release -a, and it says no LSB modules are available, it's up to date?
[15:11] <Koheleth> I had the rc and I waited and waited for the release for no point
[15:11] <duese> website ist back :-D
[15:11] <grindhold> rohan:  yes i have , but does the upgrade affect my 3rd party software? afaik it didn't while updatinig from 7.04 to 7.10
[15:11] <peterm> hi
[15:11] <DShepherd> ubuntu.com looks jazzy!.. nice
[15:11] <peppers> steve_pearce: is torrent.ubuntu.com:6969 the tracker server?
[15:11] <bazhang> marcjank_: it says 8.04 or 7.10
[15:11] <peterm> where do i find a torrent for ubuntu 8.04?
[15:11] <jeffimperial> gord_slater, a cold shutdown? newbie in over his head here...
[15:11] <marcjank_> it says 8.04
[15:11] <Koheleth> I updated the rc this morning and it was final
[15:12] <bazhang> marcjank_: then you are fine
[15:12] <steve_pearce> peppers: yeah
[15:12] <peppers> ye it's refusing connections now :S
[15:12] <marcjank_> hmmm
[15:12] <gord_slater> jeffimperial: hehe no problem, we take it slow. If you have a working operating system, shut it down, computer goes off/silent
[15:12] <szachista> Crazyguy: of course there are no tabs in nautilus, developers have stated many times that nobody needs them ;)
[15:12] <peppers> centralized dependant p2p :S
[15:12] <Koheleth> there are no more updates for it now, I have Hardy Heron 8.04 I waited for nothing :)
[15:12] <steve_pearce> peppers: im about to mirror the torrents i grabbed
[15:12] <Juan> How can I check my Ubuntu version to see if I have final release 8.04 version?
[15:12] <Frozenball> "Nobody needs tabs"
[15:12] <Frozenball> bullshit
[15:12] <immesys> is anyone having grief with the kubuntu-kde4 torrent?
[15:12] <mattycoze> oh well, thanks for the link <_oOMOo_, currently downloading the adobepdf reader via synaptic
[15:12] <marcjank_> well then is there a way to turn off the debugger?
[15:12] <marcjank_> juan lsb_release -a
[15:12] <onats> hello, is there a quick way to upgrade to 8.04?
[15:12] <jtbandes_> Hi, I'm having issues updating the RC with rsync; it asks me for a password. I'm using this command: rsync --verbose ubuntu.osuosl.org:/releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso .
[15:12] <DShepherd> Koheleth, heheeh... isnt life sweet!
[15:12] <onats> from 7.10?
[15:12] <bazhang> lsb_release -a juan
[15:12] <peppers> hmm steve_pearce I'm gonna seed on my server, not really a ubuntu mirror :P
[15:12] <Frozenball> They are jus ttoo lazy
[15:12] <gord_slater> jeffimperial: then when u start it again (from "cold" u see) try the bios key, like F2, F10, Del, INS etc
[15:12] <Juan> thank you kindly
[15:12] <marx2k> onats: dist-upgrade
[15:12] <DShepherd> onats, sure..
[15:12] <jeffimperial> gord_slater, alright.. then
[15:13] <bazhang> onats well today may not be quick ;]
[15:13] <tim1> LSG: Hehe. I've switched back to a Logitech RX1000 (with cable) because I didn't want to charge the mouse.
[15:13] <DShepherd> onats, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[15:13] <Koheleth> DShepherd: yeah, it was a right windup
[15:13] <Frozenball> Can anyone tell the MD5 of ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[15:13] <onats> any risks?
[15:13] <toan> gm,
[15:13] <szachista> Frozenball: no, tabs are "confusing" :D
[15:13] <duaneb> boo, the tracker is down :'(
[15:13] <Juan> er ... what should it say if I'm up to date?
[15:13] <B_166-ER-X> is there a way to install Hardy whitout completely formatting gutsy ?
[15:13] <Koheleth> I think the ops knew all along
[15:13] <tim1> How long does Ubuntu take to install?
[15:13] <marcjank_> 8.04
[15:13] <mattycoze> szachista harden up!
[15:13] <marcjank_> juan
[15:13] <LSG> tim1: It lasts a pretty long time between charges though.
[15:13] <tim1> I think about 10 minutes.
[15:13] <toan> fgfh
[15:13] <bazhang> B_166-ER-X: sure via the net
[15:13] <orochi_> Koheleth, No kidding :P
[15:13] <jatt> tim1: depends on your machine
[15:13] <marx2k> onats: just the regular distribution upgrade risks
[15:13] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[15:13] <marx2k> !dist_upgrade
[15:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist_upgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:13] <Frozenball> I hate the ideology that takes features away
[15:13] <Koheleth> sods :)
[15:13] <marx2k> !dist-upgrade
[15:13] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:13] <Juan> Thanks marc
[15:13] <mooboo1> ubuntu.com is down!!!!!!!!11
[15:13] <Frozenball> Can anyone tell the MD5 of ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[15:13] <grindhold> rohan: another question.. will 8.04 work even when i dont have 3rd party activated?
[15:13] <DShepherd> hehehe
[15:13] <onats> marx, high or low risk?
[15:13] <Juan> Does anyone know how to get Nautilus to list items without extra columns like Windows Explorer does? So instead of only having 1 column list all items in a folder, with the other columns used for Size, Date, etc, have multiple columns of only items?
[15:13] <DShepherd> ubuntu.com is dead
[15:14] <Frozenball> Can anyone tell the MD5 of ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso?
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[15:14] <Akari> Endswith 1f1f1
[15:14] <W8TAH> DShepherd: its called overload
[15:14] <marx2k> onats: depends on your specific system, really...
[15:14] <_oOMOo_> mattycoze cool, hope it fixes it. One other way I tried with moderate success on occasion was to print the pdf to pdf (if you see what I mean) using the built in PDF printer, and then print the resulting pdf. Enough pdfs already
[15:14] <marcjank_> okay, if this is up to date, i've got a few problems
[15:14] <jeffimperial> gord_slater, alright.. I'll try that again later.. still updating to the finalrelease so can't shut down right now
[15:14] <mooboo1> how can i check md5sum of ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso?
[15:14] <marcjank_> juan, use the LS command
[15:14] <tim1> LSG: Yeah, I think it was every 10 hours.
[15:14] <DShepherd> W8TAH, tell me about it
[15:14] <gord_slater> jeffimperial: is this the machine you are talking on now? or a spare one?   and, best way to get bios up I find is not to hold key down so it has a fit, but to tap the key once a second until i "happens"
[15:14] <xpoint> B_166-ER-X,  update-manager -d
[15:14] <aubade> Frozenball: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/MD5SUMS
[15:14] <W8TAH> Frozenball: take it easy -- keeping asking isnt gonna help
[15:14] <onats> demmit, dist-upgrade is not available on my copy
[15:14] <bazhang> marcjank_: ask away
[15:14] <Frozenball> Sorry to flood, but thewebiste is slow as hell
[15:14] <mattycoze> <_oOMOo_> yeah tis printing now; woot now i can get on with my research
[15:14] <grindhold> rohan: another question.. will 8.04 work even when i dont have 3rd party activated?
[15:14] <szachista> right know i have opened opera with over 20 tabs, terminal with 4 tabs and gedit with few more and i feel soooo confused :)
[15:14] <LSG> tim1: At first i thought it was gonna be a royal pain (it was a gift for a friend). The one i can't use anymore is the MX5000 keyboard, also wireless
[15:14] <mooboo1> aubade, thanks
[15:14] <W8TAH> DShepherd: torrents seem to be the way to go
[15:14] <tim1> The installation process stopped here. [Errno 5] Input/output error
[15:14] <Pici> !md5 | mooboo1
[15:14] <ubotu> mooboo1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[15:14] <Frozenball> Thanks
[15:14] <rodolfo_> no answer? it seems I'm the only one running into this..
[15:14] <onats> isnt the release late? i thought i was supposed to be out last week?
[15:14] <marcjank_> okay, my login screen is about 4 times the size of my actual screen
[15:14] <Akari>  # md5sum ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:14] <Akari> 8895167a794c5d8dedcc312fc62f1f1f  ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[15:14] <Koheleth> is 8.04 support here now?
[15:14] <jeffimperial> gord_slater, it is.. ok, i'll try and remember that.. thanks
[15:15] <bazhang> Koheleth: aye
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[15:15] <orochi_> Koheleth, Yes, you're allowed to talk about it now :P
[15:15] <jorwex> what would it take for my university to become a mirror?
[15:15] <DShepherd> W8TAH, ok.. i am not upgrading yet though. waiting till the rush is over
[15:15] <DShepherd> :-)
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[15:15] <LSG> tim1: I don't want to buy 4 AA batteries every...like 4 weeks or something
[15:15] <Koheleth> http://goukihq.org/MD5/ for md(s
[15:15] <DShepherd> Koheleth, it should be
[15:15] <Juan> marcjank_ : How do I use ls command within Nautilus?
[15:15]  * ubunturox please look at this baby!! Description:    Ubuntu 8.04 yea!
[15:15] <Koheleth> ok, I will close the other tabs
[15:15] <marcjank_> and when I try to run zmud, it claims that it doesn't run when debuggers are active- I thought they'd only be on if I was using RC but apparently I'm in the full release now
[15:15] <xngear> why i cant join #ubuntu+1? i want 8.10 alpha now!
[15:15] <immesys> is there a problem with torrent.ubuntu.com?
[15:15] <DShepherd> Juan, you dont. you use it on the terminal
[15:15] <bazhang> about 45gbs of space jorwex
[15:15] <Techsalvager> May I ask you ubuntu people to clean up ubuntu-ru
[15:16] <tomd123> Juan: you can't use ls with nautilus, ls is for the command line
[15:16] <Ertyle> xngear: there is no 8.10 alpha yet.
[15:16] <Akari> xngear:LOL^^
[15:16] <Techsalvager> and stop them from spamming ##windows
[15:16] <Juan> haha yes I know that, but I want it to list in Nautilus, not terminal
[15:16] <jtbandes_> Anyone used rsync to update the .iso from the RC to the final release?
[15:16] <cyclonut> any redditors here?
[15:16] <bazhang> xngear there in no alpha now
[15:16] <DShepherd> xngear, #ubuntu+1 wont be up for a little while
[15:16] <jorwex> is that a constant 45gigs? or is that increasing with each release?
[15:16] <Ertyle> Techsalvager, you need to ask a -ru operators. /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-ru list
[15:16] <jatt> hahaha ##windows
[15:16] <szachista> Techsalvager: spamming #windows? good idea
[15:16] <spiderfire> hello, can someone tell me how to use a character from the character map?
[15:16] <tim1> LSG: Yep, me too. I think cordless mouses are better for exactly this reason.
[15:16] <Juan> My question was:
[15:16] <Juan> Does anyone know how to get Nautilus to list items without extra columns like Windows Explorer does? So instead of only having 1 column list all items in a folder, with the other columns used for Size, Date, etc, have multiple columns of only items?
[15:16] <bazhang> jorwex: not sure you may want to ask his-child
[15:16] <ljudkort> Ah, I love the sound of a Ubuntu-CD being burned...
[15:16] <Juan> Like a graphical representation of the terminal's ls command.
[15:17] <bazhang> juan yes, and no one knows right now; when someone does they will answer
[15:17] <onats> wow, torrent doesnt seem to be working even
[15:17] <Frozenball> I would like to note that the warning not to download was just plain bullsjhit
[15:17] <kbrosnan> Juan: chanage view as icons to view as list
[15:17] <FilipinoYakuza> how fast did some people download Hardy Heron?
[15:17] <Frozenball> I downloaded the iso earlier by torrent and md5sums matched
[15:17] <kbrosnan> Juan: drop down on the upper right
[15:17] <onats> hoy filipino yakuza
[15:17] <blue|palm> anyone on 8.04 using fglrx having any problems with video?
[15:17] <LSG> tim1: Hmm...maybe i could buy rechargeable batteries for the keyboard...no idea how long they'll last though.
[15:17] <ubunturox> this totally cured my flu
[15:17] <tomd123> onats: ya, torrent isn't working, I'll help though once I download the 8.04 cds :P
[15:17] <FilipinoYakuza> hoy
[15:17] <Koheleth> some peopl had it in 5 or 10 minutes
[15:17] <FilipinoYakuza> kabagis
[15:17] <tim1> blue|palm: What's your problem?
[15:17] <ubunturox> ubuntu cures your flu.
[15:17] <Ertyle> FilipinoYakuza: please use the torrents to download faster without clogging the mirror
[15:17] <ivob> Hi! Downloaded 64 bit ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso. Attempted install failed at manual partitioning. Apparently it kind find any free RAID devices when attempting creation of RAID1.
[15:17] <Ertyle> !torrents > FilipinoYakuza    (FilipinoYakuza, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:17] <onats> CDs? that means its more than 700mb?
[15:17] <FilipinoYakuza> y
[15:17] <Koheleth> I was quicker though, I already had it I did not know :)
[15:17] <ljudkort> FilipinoYakuza, I downloaded all the versions as soon as they released it, now I'm seeding them all at a couple MB/s each
[15:17] <orochi_> Frozenball, Yes, that's been well established :>
[15:17] <tomd123> onats: cd, my bad
[15:17] <DShepherd> spiderfire, try draggint the character you want to the textbox below and select copy..
[15:17] <Juan> kbrosnan: Hi ... it still shows the other columns I don't want. I just want the whole screen to be filled with item names - files and folders
[15:18] <DShepherd> spiderfire, then i think you can paste it where you like
[15:18] <grindhold> will the upgrade affect my xorg-conf?
[15:18] <spiderfire> DShepherd: ok thanks but is there a keyboard shortcut?
[15:18] <tim1> LSG: You can charge them for about 1 000 times.
[15:18] <LSG> tim1: They should have a cord you can connect to the keyboard though, so you can recharge it and still use it in the meantime
[15:18] <blue|palm> tim1, I get severe flickering (black-video-black-video) etc. This doesnt only happen with videos ive notice though, it also happens to any gl appls
[15:18] <szachista> Juan: you mean sth like this? http://thunar.xfce.org/images/thunar-compact-view-beta1.png
[15:18] <tomd123> Ertyle: the torrents are down, so don't yell at ppl plz
[15:18] <ivob> Do I report this as a bug or what?
[15:18] <onats> bah
[15:18] <steve_pearce> Ive mirrored _some_ of the torrents at http://stevepearce.info/data/ubu_mirror if it helps
[15:18] <Jawshie> Has anybody had any problems in the upgrade? Broken installs, etc?
[15:18] <Jadd76> Could someone post the torrent URL for Hardy? releases.ubuntu.com seems to be down at the moment
[15:18] <blue|palm> tim1, this all only if aiglx/compiz is on
[15:18] <onats> jeezus bejeezus
[15:18] <Juan> szachista: yessir, that's right.
[15:18] <DShepherd> spiderfire, i really dont know. :-(
[15:18] <gord_slater> jeffimperial:try F1 as well for some intel boards, refer to motherboard user manual if u have one, the BIOS happens way before the (OS) operating system (Ubuntu/Linux or Windoze), so isnt affected by OS. I'm guessing you need to change the boot order to get the CD to boot before the hard drive
[15:18] <Juan> So should I ditch Nautilus and use Thunar exclusively for that feature?
[15:18] <ubuntuROX_> I have been running the beta, it still shows me booting a development release, and there are no updates available in Synaptic, or Update Manager?  Any thoughts?
[15:18] <Jadd76> OK, Ill try that
[15:18] <blue|palm> tim1, it basically makes using any video and/or 3d apps with compiz unusable
[15:18] <orochi_> Frozenball: Banning people who posted the link to the torrent was apparently the volunteers' method of channel control up until they decided to actually admit that it was out ;>
[15:18] <tomd123> holy cow, I think I'm gonna come back when things have settled down
[15:18] <tim1> blue|palm: I haven't had this problem before. Can you post your xorg.conf on pastebin?
[15:19] <FilipinoYakuza> so why download from torrent????
[15:19] <tim1> blue|palm: Is composite turned on?
[15:19] <jtbandes_> FilipinoYakuza: it's faster
[15:19]  * mosno wonders if he'll cop any NVIDIA/X crashes/lockups on Hardy (8600M GS)
[15:19] <marx2k> FilipinoYakuza: it's faster
[15:19] <marx2k> and it doesnt kill the Ubuntu mirrors
[15:19] <FilipinoYakuza> cuz I'm downloading from Http
[15:19] <immesys> where can I get a .torrent for the kubuntu-kde4-alternate iso?
[15:19] <Ertyle> tomd123: the torrents are not down, please don't yell at me.
[15:19] <blue|palm> tim1, its not explicitly on in xorg.conf... i thought that its default now. ill try that in a sec
[15:19] <cool> FilipinoYakuza, Not necessary but recommended
[15:19] <mosno> although maybe it was just a Compiz bug
[15:19] <tim1> LSG: Good idea.
[15:19] <ubuntuROX_> Ive been using nvidia and it works great.
[15:19] <FilipinoYakuza> yeah i know
[15:20] <FilipinoYakuza> how faster is the torrent??
[15:20] <bazhang> !info envyng-qt hardy
[15:20] <ubotu> envyng-qt (source: envyng-qt): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 62 kB, installed size 336 kB
[15:20] <jtbandes_> It's sucking right now :P
[15:20] <steve_pearce> FilipinoYakuza: very
[15:20] <Ertyle> FilipinoYakuza, try and see, it depends on your connection as well as 100 other factods.
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[15:20] <ubunturox> yea this is the first version my nvidia card is fully supported
[15:20] <DPic> does anybody know if region coding on DVDs matters with Ubuntu?
[15:20] <tim1> blue|palm: You need to change the driver to fglrx, if you haven't done so.
[15:20] <blue|palm> tim1, http://www.pastebin.org/31738
[15:20] <cool> FilipinoYakuza, Perhaps test & see :)
[15:20] <FilipinoYakuza> okay
[15:20] <gord_slater> FilipinoYakuza: was same sped for me :-p
[15:20] <jorwex> k, going ALOT faster via http. how do i seed that after i get it?
[15:20] <LSG> tim1: I wish i could get payed for my ideas =(
[15:20] <FilipinoYakuza> send me the torrent
[15:20] <a1fa_> wooo
[15:20] <a1fa_> congrats on a new release :P
[15:20] <Ertyle> !torrents | FilipinoYakuza
[15:20] <ubotu> FilipinoYakuza: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[15:21] <erot1con> where could I read when is the 8.04 end of life going to be?
[15:21] <blue|palm> tim1, check xorg.conf, as far as i know it should be right. but i don't know that much :-/
[15:21] <tomd123> Ertyle: then the torrents are corrupt on the mirror, because they don't work
[15:21] <jtbandes_> Why are so many people not seeding?
[15:21] <a1fa_> TLS
[15:21] <a1fa_> ubuntu.com
[15:21] <marx2k> erot1con: 2011
[15:21] <bazhang> jorwex: you can use transmission to create a new torrnet
[15:21] <Ertyle> tomd123: which mirror?
[15:21] <gord_slater> 2011 desktop 2013 server
[15:21] <Falc> 120476
[15:21] <a1fa_> hehe
[15:21] <cool> erot1con, todays date + 3 years
[15:21] <mosno> jtbandes_, most are probably switching distro on their only PC
[15:21]  * grindhold need coffee.. C8H10N4O2 support
[15:21] <a1fa_> hey
[15:21] <jorwex> wait...is there just one torrent out? shouldnt i seed with that one?
[15:21] <Ertyle> !offtopic
[15:21] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:21] <a1fa_> when does 8.10 come out :P
[15:21] <jorwex> (i dont really know how torrents work)
[15:21] <cool> erot1con, means 2011
[15:21] <inditech> hi there
[15:21] <ubu> hello, i've hardy...where can i find the firefox binary in the filesystem because /usr/bin/firefox is a script
[15:21] <Ertyle> a1fa_: in 6 months
[15:21] <DShepherd> alfanick, six months from now
[15:21] <a1fa_> :)
[15:21] <tim1> LSG: Hehe. Go to Logitech and suggest your idea to them. Even better is to buy a patent.
[15:21] <rascal999> !help
[15:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[15:21] <inditech> anyone willing to answer a quick question?
[15:21] <bazhang> Ertyle: good luck with that today ;]
[15:22] <Zelta> a1fa_: October
[15:22] <a1fa_> Ertyle : ahhahaha no way? i was kidding
[15:22] <Ertyle> ubu: try "dpkg -L firefox"
[15:22] <marcjank_> go for it inditech
[15:22] <evandro> #ubuntu-br
[15:22] <a1fa_> I WAS KIDDING
[15:22] <tomd123> Ertyle: hold on, I'll try to find it, unless the web page times out (ubuntu.com) :P
[15:22] <Ertyle> bazhang: with what?
[15:22] <cool> ubu, what exactly you are trying to do?
[15:22] <FilipinoYakuza> what does everyone recommend????
[15:22] <inditech> well I updated to 8.04 before today - ie. beta
[15:22] <Ertyle> evandro: /join #ubuntu-br
[15:22] <Zelta> Ubuntu follows a 6 month release cycle
[15:22] <jeffimperial> so ubotu is back
[15:22] <FilipinoYakuza> Torrent or Http
[15:22] <marx2k> !ask
[15:22] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[15:22] <tim1> blue|palm: Looks good so far but I think you need to enable composite in it.
[15:22] <evandro> ok
[15:22] <erUSUL> FilipinoYakuza: torrent
[15:22] <inditech> and now the official LTS is out, do I need to upgrade?
[15:22] <cool> FilipinoYakuza, Torrents
[15:22] <Zelta> Usually, a release is released on April and October
[15:22] <Ertyle> a1fa_: and do you think a channel with 1700 people, scrolling so fast that my client can barely keep up, needs jokes?
[15:22] <Ertyle> !ot
[15:22] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:22] <bazhang> with sending people to offtopic Ertyle
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[15:22] <EskimoBOB> does anyone have the change log for hardy? ubuntu's site seems to be down
[15:22] <DPic> does region coding on DVDs matter on Ubuntu?
[15:22] <FilipinoYakuza> okay
[15:22] <jrib> inditech: no, it's your choice if you want to upgrade to hardy
[15:22] <FilipinoYakuza> thanks
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[15:22] <blue|palm> tim1, ok, ill try that
[15:23] <bazhang> dpic nay
[15:23] <talntid> hi :)
[15:23] <marcjank_> bob- there's a ton of changes
[15:23] <jeffimperial> may pinoy dito?
[15:23] <LSG> tim1: Meh, i'm not even close to the US and i don't think there's anyone from Logitech in my country. You can patent it if you want =)
[15:23] <a1fa_> ubuntu+1 forwards to #ubuntu
[15:23] <orochi_> Ertyle: You mean like the "it'll take 42 minutes longer if you ask for the release" joke that the ops were spouting not that long ago? ;P
[15:23] <inditech> jrib: well I am on Hardy but its the beta one they release a couple of weeks ago
[15:23] <cool> EskimoBOB, You might be interested in Release notes
[15:23] <DPic> bazhang: sweet, thought so
[15:23] <jrib> !final > inditech (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:23] <FilipinoYakuza> you think it would be done when i come back from school?
[15:23] <marcjank_> new gnome, new nautilus, tons of new apps packed with it
[15:23] <tim1> blue|palm: It needs to be in the Extensions section. If you don't know how, look for some examples at google.
[15:23] <ubu> cool, app-armor doesn't have the firefox profile in /etc/apparmor.d/ and selinux doesn't have it when i do semodule -l so i tried to look if firefox is corectly labeled as mozilla_exec_t or something like this...
[15:23] <lalalala> download too slow!!!!
[15:23] <inditech> will my update manager take care of the missing pieces?
[15:23] <blue|palm> tim1, thx
[15:23] <EskimoBOB> i am, do you have a link to them cool?
[15:23] <jorwex> works for me... not a text file tho http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804
[15:23] <W8TAH> lalalala: deal with it
[15:24] <LSG> lalalala: 140kbps here!
[15:24] <tim1> LSG: I'm neither living in the US.
[15:24] <talntid> where do I edit my VPN connection settings at? anyone know?
[15:24] <tim1> LSG: Where are you from?
[15:24] <blue|palm> Don't you guys have local linux mirrors?
[15:24] <tim1> blue|palm: No problem. :)
[15:24] <EskimoBOB> thnx
[15:24] <LSG> tim1: Argentina. You?
[15:24] <blue|palm> they usually get synched often
[15:24] <tim1> LSG: Germany.
[15:24] <cool> EskimoBOB, search on Ubuntu.com
[15:24] <Koheleth> thats a lot of memory for a linux distro
[15:24] <cool> ubu,sorry, dunno
[15:24] <Koheleth> 384mb
[15:25] <zerosneaker> I've installed the RC version of ubuntu 8.04. But can't upgrade to the stable version? why is that?
[15:25] <Koheleth> zerosneaker: what do you mean
[15:25] <mrtimdog> Is it possible to install without LVM and on an ecrypted volume?
[15:25] <orochi_> Koheleth, ? Only 190MB total in use here and that's with a lot running
[15:25] <marx2k> zerosneaker:  youre already at the stable if no more updates can be made
[15:25] <jrib> !final > zerosneaker (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:25] <marcjank_> zerosneaker lsb_release -a
[15:25] <zerosneaker> yeah. it says 8.04
[15:25] <bazhang> zerosneaker: when you have updates apply them--servers might be tab bit overworked today though
[15:25] <Ertyle> immesys: http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:25] <marcjank_> zerosneaker if lsb_release -a shows 8.04, it already did the updates necerssary
[15:25] <LSG> tim1: Sweet! I've always wanted to visit there. I was going to make a little trip around Europe with a friend but he quit his job so...no money.
[15:25] <zerosneaker> okey. yeah thanks :)
[15:25] <Koheleth> zerosneaker: just go to update manager
[15:26] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[15:26] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:26] <ubu> ouch...system_u:object_r:bin_t /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5/firefox...app armor doesn't have enough profiles and selinux too...
[15:26] <ubuntuROX_> marx2k problem is that it still boots from a development version,,, I think I have the same problem with the beta
[15:26] <zerosneaker> i've tried that. it didn't showed anything so i thought something was wrong here:)
[15:26] <tim1> LSG: Oh, I'm sorry for him.
[15:26] <jeffimperial> anyone in here ever experienced Alternate CD not working in less than required memory?
[15:26] <zerosneaker> nvm
[15:26] <zerosneaker> thanks :)
[15:26] <cool> EskimoBOB, you still there?
[15:26] <ikerc> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2244/2436225528_e5c1887fe1_o.png
[15:26] <EskimoBOB> yeah
[15:26] <EskimoBOB> sry reading
[15:26] <cool> EskimoBOB, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/804
[15:26] <EskimoBOB> that's what i'm reading :)
[15:26] <jeffimperial> EskimoBOB, was that for me?
[15:27] <Juan> By god, if I could combine Thunar and Nautilus, it'd be great
[15:27] <pawal> why no wordpress 2.5 in hardy?
[15:27] <EskimoBOB> jeffimperial, no
[15:27] <ubu> what's the point of selinux/app-armor if they haven't a firefox profile...there is one inside the refpolicy...isn't there any step i missed?
[15:27] <LSG> tim1: Don't be. He quit just cause he's lazy. I might still go with a girl i met <.<
[15:27] <abli> Hi! how can I debug usb stick automounting? using the live cd of hardy plugging in the usb stick it gets automatically mounted, but in the recently installed hardy it doesnt. judging from dmesg the usbstick is recognized, and it shows up in the places menu, but 'mount' doesn't know about it. Any ideas?
[15:27] <tim1> LSG: Ok, good luck.
[15:27] <marcjank_> does anybody know how to disable debuggers?
[15:28] <LSG> tim1: Thanks, later man
[15:28] <cool> abli, type dmes at terminal
[15:28] <Zorg95> hi, ubuntu hardy installer keeps complaining about corrupted md5 checksums, but when i manually check them in windows, everything works fine... any idea?
[15:28] <cool> abli, dmesg
[15:28] <Juan> Is there some sort of addon for Gnome that gives me something similar to Windows' Quick Start bar, with a list of all my favorite items listed on the panel itself?
[15:28] <jeffimperial> abli, have the same prob with a hard drive
[15:28] <xyzz> ubu selinux is not just for firefox
[15:28] <fahadsadah> I updated my kernel to 2.6.25, and now my Nvidia drivers don't work.
[15:28] <Zorg95> for file /dists/hardy/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[15:28] <marcjank_> juan places takes care of all of that
[15:28] <hcoal> Hello, I have 2 gigs of ram, how big should I make my swap partition?  Should it really be 4 gig as the rule of thumb goes?
[15:29] <cool> Juan, you can add shortcuts on the top panel, Right click and add to panel
[15:29] <abli> cool, what? according to dmesg it is recognized. what should i look for?
[15:29] <heartsblood> o.o was ubunt+1 taken over last night?
[15:29] <wild_oscar> Juan: I also can think of "places" for that
[15:29] <bazhang> fahadsadah: that is not supported
[15:29] <marcjank_> juan oh, if you want things on the bar, just drag the icon
[15:29] <peppers> hcoal: it's 1.5x the RAM so make it 3Gb
[15:29] <ubu> xyzz, i know that but what's the point of integrating it on the Desktop without the desktop profile?
[15:29] <cool> abli, perhaps, manual mount it
[15:29] <hcoal> peppers: thank you!
[15:29] <marcjank_> does anybody know how to disable debuggers?
[15:29] <duaneb> hcoal, just to make it safe, I'd do 4 gigs
[15:29] <peppers> hcoal: np
[15:29] <duaneb> how much HD space do you have?
[15:29] <v0lksman> anyone know a link with some good docs on policy kit?  I really need to figure out why it isn't working on my systems
[15:29] <Juan> marcjank_ : Yeah, I've dragged the icons, but since I wanted a dual-row panel for my open programs, the icons are huge. Any way to make those program icons use two rows as well and make them smaller?
[15:30] <hcoal> 500gig
[15:30] <peppers> duaneb: over 1.5x tends to loose preformance if you don't actually use it.
[15:30] <Juan> I was hoping there was a specific addon for that ... but making the icons smaller works well too
[15:30] <fahadsadah> I updated my kernel to 2.6.25, and now my Nvidia drivers don't work.
[15:30] <zyx386> what is new in ubuntu 8.4?
[15:30] <xyzz> ubu consider it as first test deployment
[15:30] <abli> cool, how can I find out which device to mount?
[15:30] <MenZa> !hardy | zyx386
[15:30] <heartsblood> Is it possible to see exactly the ammount of ram the processes on my system are using?
[15:30] <cool> hcoal, IMO, this much /SWAP will not be needed, unless you use hibernation
[15:30] <bazhang> fahadsadah: that is not supported
[15:30] <MenZa> heartsblood: top
[15:30] <MenZa> heartsblood: As in, the program top. Run it in a terminal.
[15:30] <cool> abli, looks in dmesg
[15:30] <fahadsadah> bazhang: Crap
[15:30] <wild_oscar> !hardy
[15:30] <marcjank_> juan: can you send me a screenshot of what you're talking about?
[15:30] <ubu> xyzz, ok...i have it on gentoo and i have a firefox,wine,java,mono,etc...
[15:30] <ubotu> zyx386: Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[15:30] <cool> abli, last few lines
[15:30] <Koheleth> ubuntus index page is knackered
[15:31] <Juan> marcjank_ yessir I'll upload now
[15:31] <mighty-d> Hi
[15:31] <Koheleth> its up and down
[15:31] <ubu> xyzz, oops add profile to the end of the sentence
[15:31] <mrkeishii> is the Hardy Heron LTS download the same as the Torrent?????
[15:31] <hcoal> One more thing, should I create a separate partition for /usr ?
[15:31] <timboy> what program is the ubuntu website made in?
[15:31] <Myrtti> hcoal: /home atleast
[15:31] <cool> mrkeishii, Yeah
[15:31] <mok0> !torrent
[15:31] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[15:31] <mighty-d> would you help me?, im having a bad day with slapd, all i get is >> Unrecognized database type (lbdm) , i get the same for bdb
[15:31] <jpt9> hey.
[15:31] <alfrenovsky> there's any torrent DVD ?
[15:31] <mrkeishii> you sure
[15:31] <mok0> !torrents
[15:31] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[15:31] <zyx386> ubotu, i said what is new in hardy, i already download it  ;)
[15:31] <jpt9> has anyone tried Wubi on Vista?  I've heard that there are problems since Vista doesn't use boot.ini anymore.
[15:31] <marcjank_> personall,y I like running utorrent behind wine
[15:31] <xyzz> ubu same in fedora, but it took a lot of time to create policy for everything
[15:32] <Ertyle> mrkeishii: the torrent ISO's are exactly the same ISO's that you get from HTTP
[15:32] <mrkeishii> okay
[15:32] <b0xxy> ssooo new ubuntu is out
[15:32] <b0xxy> ?
[15:32] <marcjank_> yes
[15:32] <Myrtti> yes
[15:32] <b0xxy> grand
[15:32] <bazhang> b0xxy: aye
[15:32] <heartsblood> Menza: how? I run top and hit m and I only get a percentage and the highest one is 3%.  but according to atop I only have 381mb free of 1gb.  (no desktop manager running atm) so I can't figure out what's hogging it all
[15:32] <mrkeishii> and it is not that fast
[15:32] <b0xxy> i shal download now
[15:32] <cool> jpt9, I always use normal & the tested way
[15:32] <Ertyle> b0xxy: as you can see if you type /topic
[15:32] <Ertyle> !enter
[15:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:32] <mrkeishii> torrent for me ain't fast
[15:32] <b0xxy> meh
[15:32] <b0xxy> havent rejoined chan in ags
[15:32] <peppers> ok, sedding the iso now :D bbl people
[15:32] <heartsblood> I mean I'm looking for the hard numbers
[15:32] <jpt9> cool: which is?
[15:32] <heartsblood> not just a %
[15:32] <Ertyle> !enter | b0xxy
[15:32] <one_tao> b0xxy : Go be happy!
[15:32] <ubotu> b0xxy: please see above
[15:32] <Ben_Cs> hello
[15:32] <timboy> what program is the ubuntu website made in? Dreamweaver?
[15:32] <duaneb> that ubotu is cheeky
[15:32] <cool> jpatrick, Use CD
[15:33] <ubu> xyzz, but how ubuntu,gentoo and fedora differs? apart the fact that it's firefox3 ubuntu dev could import the refpolicy/fedora profiles no?
[15:33] <Ertyle> !offtopic | timboy
[15:33] <ubotu> timboy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:33] <b0xxy> ?
[15:33] <heartsblood> timboy: highly doubt it
[15:33] <marx2k> timboy: highly doubtful
[15:33] <talntid> mrkeishii: you're probably natgted then
[15:33] <heartsblood> marx2k: copy cat
[15:33]  * marx2k looks at heartsblood 
[15:33] <bazhang> timboy: funny but not possible
[15:33] <erUSUL> timboy: vi or emacs ;)
[15:33] <jpt9> cool: My laptop is a ThinkPad; I'm at RPI and they have a laptop program.  I don't want to have worry about partitioning my drive and possible data loss, etc.
[15:33] <jpt9> erUSUL: vim.
[15:33] <one_tao> ubu: Ubuntu is the easist to instll and add stuff to
[15:34] <Ben_Cs>  i installed hardy when it became release candidate. and kept it updated. one of the updates deleted update manager. so i don't know if i can upgrade to the "hardy release" version, and how. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , does nothing. one of the updates removed the update manager?
[15:34] <tomd123> timboy: dreamweaver? wow, nice try though ;P
[15:34] <talntid> for the life of me... i can't find the config file..
[15:34] <talntid> for reverse DNS
[15:34] <spq> is 8.04 the today released version?
[15:34] <b0xxy> downloading now
[15:34] <cool> jpt9, I also own a Thinkpad, There a thinkwiki site specially made for thinkpad users
[15:34] <jpt9> cool: What exactly do you mean by using the CD -- running Wubi from it?  Booting to it and installing from it?
[15:34] <tomd123> spq: yes
[15:34] <beoba> does someone have an alternate url for the .torrent, im not even able to get that off the site
[15:34] <bazhang> Ben_Cs: just normal upgrades will do it
[15:34] <tomd123> spq: 8.04 was released today
[15:34] <Ertyle> Ben_Cs: you should "sudo apt-get update" before the dist-upgrade
[15:34] <khalderon> hi
[15:34] <marx2k> I also doubt the Ubuntu website is running on an IIS server using C# in ASP.NET with an MS SQL Server backend
[15:34] <khalderon> I have a problem...
[15:34] <bazhang> spq aye
[15:34] <zo0mguy> how Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State       PID/Program name
[15:34] <zo0mguy> tcp        0      0 localhost:mysql         *:*                     LISTEN     4686/mysqld
[15:34] <zo0mguy> tcp        0      0 *:8888                  *:*                     LISTEN     6464/sbcl
[15:34] <zo0mguy> tcp        1      0 hardy.ucs.indiana.:8888 ablaze.uits.indian:4576 CLOSE_WAIT 6464/sbcl
[15:34] <zo0mguy> tcp        1      0 hardy.ucs.indiana.:8888 ablaze.uits.indian:4575 CLOSE_WAIT 6464/sbcl
[15:34] <khalderon> A big one!
[15:34] <zo0mguy> tcp        1      0 hardy.ucs.indiana.:8888 ablaze.uits.indian:4577 CLOSE_WAIT 6464/sbcl
[15:34] <FloodBot1> zo0mguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:34] <heartsblood> I don't understand why top and atop give me different memory usage numbers
[15:34] <khalderon> I cant download hardy
[15:34] <cool> jpatrick, booting & installing via Ubiquity or Debain installer
[15:35] <khalderon> the web site is down
[15:35] <pheriod> hi
[15:35] <erUSUL> beoba: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/
[15:35] <khalderon> and there is no torrents link
[15:35] <heartsblood> top says I have 634MB free, atop says 391MB free
[15:35] <xyzz> ubu they differs and a lot. it may result into many problems, if some not tested policies will on firefox produce avc for non skileld users
[15:35] <marx2k> !torrents
[15:35] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[15:35] <khalderon> even the link in the forums doesnt work
[15:35] <pheriod> is there enyone here who is able to use f-spot?
[15:35] <khalderon> nooo
[15:35] <Ertyle> beoba: you could try http://se.cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (or other country abbreviations instead of "se")
[15:35] <bazhang> khalderon: did you read the topic?
[15:35] <khalderon> this is not what I want
[15:35] <tomd123> khalderon: I wouldn't be surprised, just imagine the traffic...
[15:35] <xyzz> ubu if you think its the same, instal selinux module from gentoo/fedora and see yourself
[15:35] <MrBill> So, does a Ubuntu-1 join the mix for people still using Gutsy? now that Hardy is the current release?
[15:35] <pheriod> it cant connect to dbus here
[15:35] <khalderon> why is everyone giving these links
[15:35] <khalderon> ???
[15:35] <Kalisto> so hardy is now officially released? just wondering, im at work and have an ssh session to my computer. how can i upgrade my distro? usually i use the gnome update manager. do i use apt instead?
[15:35] <ubu> xyzz, ok
[15:35] <imagelife> hi how to harddisk install ubuntu ? maybe give me a links :)
[15:35] <khalderon> I want the alternate install
[15:35] <b0xxy> guys, install or upgrade? wat do u think?
[15:35] <bazhang> MrBill: we are all here ;]
[15:35] <jtbandes_> Using rsync, I get "skipping non-regular file "ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso"", how do I fix that?
[15:35] <tomd123> khalderon: because the servers can't handle this much traffic
[15:35] <khalderon> and not that stupid live cd
[15:35] <heartsblood> btw, why is esound-common A REQUIRMENT TO INSTALL COMPIZ?
[15:35] <marx2k> !alternate
[15:35] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[15:35] <abli> cool, ok, I can mount it automatically. mount gives no error messages, and none show up in /var/log/syslog/ related to mounting. I do however get 'reset High speed usb device' messages in /var/log/syslog/  So now that I can mount manually, how can I get it to automatically next time?
[15:35] <zo0mguy> how can I kill close-wait sessions on Ubuntu, they are making my application sleep
[15:36] <heartsblood> that makes no sense what so ever
[15:36] <Ertyle> MrBill: : gutsy is supported in ths channel
[15:36] <khalderon> so no link for alternate torrent?
[15:36] <khalderon> grrrrr!
[15:36] <Ertyle> khalderon: go to the "torrents for other Ubuntu flavors" and you'll find it
[15:36] <khalderon> where is that?
[15:36] <tomd123> khalderon: you have a long way before you can call anything stupid
[15:36] <the_alamo> i have come a folder in my trash that i don't have permission to delete.  how do i get rid of it?
[15:36] <Juan> marcjank_ Here's a screenshot of what I want to do with the Gnome panels: http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotrm3.png
[15:36] <Akari> I'm going to install on this machine now. Love you all! ^^
[15:36] <Ertyle> khalderon: in the factoid you were just thrown. http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[15:36] <Ben_Cs> Ertyle , bazhang: why did one of the updates removed the update-manager? i installed it back, and added it to auto started apps, but i can't make it sit and listen to updates in tray
[15:36] <khalderon> I asked something: WHY IS ONLY A LINK TO THAT DAMN LIVECD GIVEN?
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[15:36] <Rokko> ciao
[15:37] <Rokko> posso
[15:37] <xyzz> ubu you may also help to derivate module for ubuntu from these
[15:37] <genii> khalderon: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:37] <marx2k> !caps
[15:37] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:37] <Rokko> parlare anche di kubuntu?
[15:37] <khalderon> thanks
[15:37] <bazhang> khalderon: seems to want some attention
[15:37] <zo0mguy> how can I kill close-wait sessions on Ubuntu, they are making my application sleep
[15:37] <marek> !cups
[15:37] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[15:37] <tomd123> khalderon: wow, so ignorant
[15:37] <Ertyle> !it | rokko
[15:37] <ubotu> rokko: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:37] <Mimi> pms
[15:37] <khalderon> is this official: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[15:37] <khalderon> ?
[15:37] <Ertyle> rokko: /join #kubuntu or /join #ubuntu-it
[15:37] <oriez> why download the upgrade is so slow its started from 400kb/s and now its 16kb/s
[15:37] <Ertyle> !attitude | khalderon, the alternate torrent is at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:37] <ubotu> khalderon, the alternate torrent is at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[15:37] <Mimi> yes khalderon  -_-
[15:37] <spq> can anyone give me a checksum or something of the iso? (desktop, amd64) i downloaded a file today, but dont knowif its the rc or the today released one...
[15:37] <marcjank_> juan: that's easy, just go to applications, and drag the application you want to the panel
[15:37] <marcjank_> the icon will appear
[15:38] <Ben_Cs> why did one of the updates removed the update-manager? i installed it back, and added it to auto started apps, but i can't make it sit and listen to updates in tray
[15:38] <ubu> xyzz, ok...i know how to USE selinux but not yet how to make policies without audit2allow...but i have the book
[15:38] <Ben_Cs> anyone please?
[15:38] <khalderon> bye!
[15:38] <Ertyle> khalderon: the link to the live CD is given because *that is the official installation CD*. if you want to use alternate, you'll surely know how to browse a web site.
[15:38] <Juan> marckank_ yessir, I've done that, but I'm trying to make those icons smaller than they show in that screenshot ...
[15:38] <khalderon> Ertyle, how arrogant
[15:38] <jorwex> Ben_Cs I dont know
[15:38] <Administrator_> is there an option to load live ubuntu toram ? I REALLY need this
[15:38] <erUSUL> !caps | khalderon
[15:38] <ubotu> khalderon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:38] <Juan> marcjank_ I mean
[15:38] <khalderon> this will confuse so many users
[15:38] <xpoint> oriez, download is slow since all trying to downgrade to hardy right now
[15:38] <jorwex> is that supposed to happen?
[15:38] <khalderon> it is like M$
[15:38] <Ertyle> Ben_Cs: i have no ide. try « sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »
[15:38] <Ertyle> !enter | khalderon
[15:38] <ubotu> khalderon: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:39] <TB`> Where do I buy Ubuntu from?
[15:39] <khalderon> it forces you to use certain thing
[15:39] <orochi_> khalderon, Confusing users is almost as popular as threatening users when it comes to this channel's ops :>
[15:39] <Ertyle> !offtopic | khalderon
[15:39] <ubotu> khalderon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:39] <Ertyle> !ubuntu > TB`    (TB`, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:39] <bazhang> khalderon: intereting but offtopic
[15:39] <khalderon> anyway
[15:39] <ubuntuROX_> should the final release still be booting off a development version ?
[15:39] <gord_slater> the_alamo: probably "owned" by root, one way is to type "sudo nautilus" in a terminal, giving you temporary superuser permissions, navigate using the nautilus left-side tree to trash, delete file (note, i not runnig 8.04 yet lol, might be wrong nowadays)
[15:39] <khalderon> I dont want to do any more offtopic
[15:39] <khalderon> thanks for the link
[15:39] <Administrator_> is there an option to load live ubuntu toram ?
[15:39] <khalderon> and next time provide all of the links
[15:39] <khalderon> and dont behave arrogant
[15:39] <marx2k> Administrator_: Ubuntu LiveCD loads to RAM
[15:39] <khalderon> bye bye :)
[15:39] <Ertyle> khalderon, most people won't need or want the alternate CD. and providing *that* link *would* confuse them.
[15:39] <Decepticon> i cant download the .torrent file for some reason, is releases.ubuntu.com being slow/unresponsive? anyone have a mirror to download the 8.04 torrent
[15:39] <fserve> khalderon, cya
[15:40] <bazhang> bye khalderon
[15:40] <tomd123> khalderon: your the one asking for links, wow, that was rubbish
[15:40] <oriez> xpoint - you mean "upgrade"
[15:40] <tarzeau> Decepticon: http://krum.ethz.ch/iso/
[15:40] <b0xxy> oi
[15:40] <Ertyle> khalderon: i don't see why you'd need the alternate CD unless you want to install a custom selection of packages, or your computer has very limited hardware resources.
[15:40] <xpoint> oriez, i am sakastisks since its more or less a downgrade as today
[15:40] <bazhang> it is a fun day; too bad not everyone can be happy
[15:40] <Administrator_> marx2k: ubuntu live cd loads to ram and I can eject cd and use a cd burner
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[15:40] <alexvd_> hi I keep having the same issue of trying to upgrade to hardy and it hanging at checking package manager.  This happened for RC1 and now the official version.  Is thier a fix?
[15:40] <Ben_Cs> Ertyle: you are right. for some reason ubuntu-desktop package got removed, together with update notifier
[15:40] <zax1> can i use internet explorere on linux or ubuntu
[15:40] <Ertyle> Decepticon, yes, it's pretty slow. there are mirrors
[15:40] <marx2k> Administrator_: No :(
[15:40] <Decepticon> thanks tarzeau
[15:40] <Decepticon> tarzeau, i was hoping for a .torrent file
[15:40] <Juan> zaxl: yes, with wine
[15:40] <mooboo1> im seeding 8.04 in 590 kb/s
[15:41] <bazhang> zax1: via wine yes
[15:41] <Ertyle> Decepticon: try http://fr.cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (or another nation instead of "fr#")
[15:41] <khalderon> help
[15:41] <tarzeau> Decepticon: sorry, but this mirror is really fast, since almost nobody knows about it :)
[15:41] <khalderon> I cant open the torrent
[15:41] <khalderon> grrrr
[15:41] <Ertyle> !enter | khalderon
[15:41] <ubotu> khalderon: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:41] <oriez> xpoint - why r u saying it
[15:41] <zax1> thanks
[15:41] <khalderon> it just hangs... :(
[15:41] <marcjank_> juan: ahhh you could try changing the resolution.  I'm not sure otherwise
[15:41] <bazhang> khalderon: really not your day
[15:41] <Ben_Cs> thanks
[15:41] <tarzeau> khalderon: then try the http download from http://krum.ethz.ch/iso/ ?
[15:41] <khalderon> yeah
[15:41] <bullgard4> What is the proper place to store GNOME source code files in Hardy?
[15:41] <khalderon> it is slow
[15:41] <tomd123> khalderon: be patient...
[15:41] <Decepticon> i just need a mirror for this file http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:41] <khalderon> btw is that an official link?
[15:41] <ikonia> bullgard4: source files can go where you want
[15:41] <duaneb> Decepticon, http://hobbsee.com/tmp/
[15:41] <Decepticon> tarzeau, im not planning on installing yet, i just want to help seed, thats why im asking for a torrent
[15:41] <tarzeau> khalderon: no, but it's gbit fast
[15:42] <schiv> hi is hardy heron a monkey?
[15:42] <Ertyle> khalderon: please STOP using enter as punctuation, my client is about to freeze up from the scrolling. yes, that's an official mirror
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[15:42] <tarzeau> Decepticon: i see
[15:42] <bazhang> khalderon: we are volunteers; please be nicer
[15:42] <ikonia> schiv: this is a support channel only
[15:42] <tomd123> khalderon: it doesn't matter if it's an official link, as long as the checksum is the same!!
[15:42] <khalderon> Ertyle, just stop telling me how to write here! this is insulting!
[15:42] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[15:42] <schiv> ikonia: ok thanks
[15:42] <duaneb> ouch
[15:42] <Ertyle> !ops | khalderon
[15:42] <ubotu> khalderon: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[15:42] <oriez> xpoint, do you think its not worth upgrading
[15:42] <Decepticon> thanks duaneb
[15:42] <duaneb> FloodBot takedown
[15:42] <marx2k> wow....
[15:42] <Torikun> Arch Linux FTW!
[15:42] <the> when i'm installing ubuntu, the installer don't understands that i have the hard drives in raid0, so it only sees 2 hds and not the partitions i made.. anything i can do?
[15:42] <hardy64> khalderon: stop flooding the channel
[15:42] <jrib> khalderon: ?
[15:42] <ikonia> Torikun: Please stop -
[15:42] <the> when i'm installing ubuntu, the installer don't understands that i have the hard drives in raid0, so it only sees 2 hds and not the partitions i made.. anything i can do?
[15:42] <orochi_> khalderon: You're lucky you didn't get here earlier, you would have been banned for even talking about the link they're now asking people to Digg up ;P
[15:42] <ikonia> Torikun: this is an ubuntu support channel only
[15:42] <Pici> !offtopic
[15:42] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:42] <orochi_> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=533250&cid=23182722
[15:43] <ikonia> orochi_: can you drop comaplining about the link banning please.
[15:43] <Treeckcold57> Hey I have a question. how suppose do I with openoffice for using MLA format?
[15:43] <MattAAron> wow so much talking going on in here
[15:43] <dystopianray> the: is it a fakeraid setup? you might need to use the alternate cd
[15:43] <Frozenball> Can you install Ubuntu without wasting yet another cd?
[15:43] <Treeckcold57> 1 inch left and right.
[15:43] <ikonia> MattAAron: it's not like this,
[15:43] <bazhang> orochi_: indeed that is tiring
[15:43] <TuxPWNZ> Guys what's the command to know the current version of Ubuntu?
[15:43] <Juan> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/1672820/gnome-panel-systray-unefficient-icon-arrangement.png haha that's a perfect description of my job as well.
[15:43] <dystopianray> Treeckcold57: MLA is access?
[15:43] <ubuntuROX_>  should grub still say Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel 2.6.24-16-generic if its the current version?
[15:43] <marx2k> Frozen: from within linux?
[15:43] <ikonia> Frozenball: netboot, perhaps
[15:43] <ConstyXIV> MattAAron, well, it is release day
[15:43] <elkbuntu> orochi_, the link banning was done to prevent pipe cloggage... which would only delay the release. please lay off.
[15:43] <bazhang> Frozenball: sure; what is the host os
[15:43] <jrib> !version > TuxPWNZ (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:43] <ikonia> TuxPWNZ: lsb_release -a
[15:43] <jatt> lsb_release
[15:43] <fserve> lsb-release -a
[15:43] <marek> where are release notes that describe what has been changed from last release?
[15:43] <ikonia> ubuntuROX_: no - it's stable now
[15:43] <Mimi> <TuxPWNZ>  type uname -u in command prompt
[15:44] <Frozenball> I have Windows + Linux Mint installed
[15:44] <cool> Frozenball, Check various installtion methods supported by Ubuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[15:44] <scot524> @tux - cat/etc/issue
[15:44] <MattAAron> ahhh, crazy... Funny, this is my first time ever in the #ubuntu channel, never even used linux myself...until today, donwloading it now to try it out :D came in here and BAM, talk talk talk lol
[15:44] <ikonia> Mimi: thats not going to show the release
[15:44] <luke__> wc
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[15:44] <ubuntuROX_> how do I force an upgrade?
[15:44] <Mimi> im sorry <TuxPWNZ>  type uname -a   instead
[15:44] <karbo> anyone been able to successfully use the new "Screen resolution" tool with the ATI drivers?
[15:44] <xpoint> oriez, hardy as today have lots of dependice errors that needs to be fixed, one of them is easy to see with "apt-get install mozilla-*" with installs both seamonkey and mozilla but it fails on dependice
[15:44] <ikonia> Mimi: thats not going to show the release.
[15:44] <mohbana> can i download a dvd of hardy?
[15:44] <the> what should i do when the installer dont understand that i have my 2 hard disks in raid0, but see 2 seperate hard disks?
[15:44] <bazhang> Frozenball: try unetbootin from windows
[15:44] <bullgard4> ikonia: Unification is a valuable asset in software production and usage. It is a waste to not unify a location for source code files in Linux and Ubuntu.
[15:44] <Frozenball> cool, It's kind of impossible since servers are jammed
[15:44] <bazhang> mohbana sure
[15:44] <MattAAron> you support ppl must be going insane today with all these ppl
[15:44] <Mimi> ikonia,  i thought he wanted the version not the release. good point
[15:44] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok, "there isn't an official location"
[15:44] <mohbana> bazhang: where
[15:44] <bazhang> MattAAron: its fun
[15:44] <MattAAron> lol
[15:44] <orochi_> bazhang: All of a sudden you can hear me again, amazing ;> I'm sure the people who got banned for trying to promote your release are very happy about it
[15:44] <ConstyXIV> MattAAron, we're all just normal peoples
[15:44] <hrist> bazhang: oh yeah :D
[15:44] <jatt> no support ppl here sir
[15:45] <cool> Frozenball, Its possible, check googles cache ;)
[15:45] <ubuntuROX_> I have tried all the sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade etc. stuff its showing no updates.
[15:45] <gord_slater> MattAAron: Welcome! this is "crazy day 8.04" so its a bit mad right now
[15:45] <jatt> only volunteers :)
[15:45] <ikonia> orochi_: STOP, please, drop it
[15:45] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ok. I notice. -- Thank you.
[15:45] <ikonia> bullgard4: no problem
[15:45] <bazhang> orochi_: please stop
[15:45] <MattAAron> yea seems like it... and i thought #xbmc gets crazy at times, nope, not at all
[15:45] <Cen> does anyone know if there is a dedicated Ubuntu JeOS irc channel?
[15:45] <ikonia> Cen: not that I'm aware of
[15:45] <mohbana> where is the dvd link?
[15:45] <scot524> @ubuntuROX_ -- gksu "update-manager -c"
[15:45] <Ertyle> !no alternate is <reply> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:45] <marx2k> Whoa! There's an #xbmc!?
[15:45] <orochi_> Take note, anyone who is new to Ubuntu: Canonical's volunteers are more than willing to jilt their own users over a website announcement
[15:45] <cool> ubuntulog, try update-manager
[15:45] <un2him> just did a fresh install keeping my old home directory. aside from reinstalling a couple of apps, all is groovy
[15:45] <alexvd_> Hi update manager keeps hanging at checking package manager can anyone help
[15:46] <MattAAron> #xbmc here on this network, yea lol they moved a while ago to FreeNode :D
[15:46] <Ertyle> !offtopic | orochi_
[15:46] <ubotu> orochi_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[15:46] <MattAAron> #xbmc-linux for the linux version
[15:46] <cdm10> I want to get the torrent, but the website appears slightly broken and the link in the topic is dead...
[15:46] <nemo> hm. #ubuntu+1 has been shut down?
[15:46] <bazhang> cdm give it a bit; should pick up soon ish
[15:46] <Whitor> Can anyone confirm that Wireless networking works on a Thinkpad t61p?
[15:46] <bazhang> nemo yes
[15:46] <hardy64> Isn't the GDM login screen resolution determined by the first item listed under display in xorg.conf? My screen resolution on GDM is not right
[15:46] <ubuntuROX_> It tells me my system is up to date
[15:46] <erUSUL> cdm10: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/
[15:46] <ConstyXIV> cdm10, try ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:46] <ikonia> nemo: it's in here
[15:47] <bazhang> whitor is that 3945 or 4965
[15:47] <nemo> ikonia: alrighty.
[15:47] <ikonia> Whitor: I've had it working
[15:47] <nemo>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[15:47] <nemo>  8027 nemo      39  19 2118m 730m 2672 S  0.0 36.1   9:36.63 trackerd
[15:47] <cdm10> Thanks guys
[15:47] <FloodBot1> nemo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <ido--> ugh
[15:47] <nemo> FloodBot1: 2 lines is a flood?
[15:47] <Whitor> bazhang, How do I check ?
[15:47] <ido--> gettign 12k/s when downloading the image
[15:47] <lesjoh1> anyone know if the issues with OO in the powerpc port have been resolved?
[15:47] <mohbana> where can i download a dvd of hardy?
[15:47] <nemo> FloodBot1: silly bot
[15:47] <bazhang> lspci in the terminal whitor
[15:47] <ubuntuROX_> has anyone else had the beta do an automatic update to the released version?
[15:47] <Ertyle> nemo: yes, given there's 1700 people in here. use the pastebin :)
[15:47] <ikonia> ubuntuROX_: it doesn't do it automaticlly, you have to tell it to
[15:47] <Pici> nemo: Lines with all caps get weighted higher
[15:47] <nemo> Ertyle: that saves one whole line :-p
[15:47] <dejan> zdr
[15:47] <bazhang> !torrents | mohbana look here
[15:47] <ubotu> mohbana look here: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[15:47] <Ertyle> Pici: i don't think that needs to be explained
[15:47] <nemo> Ertyle: and I only included the first line to give context
[15:48] <zo0mguy> how can I kill close-wait sessions on Ubuntu, they are making my application sleep, plz
[15:48] <ikonia> nemo: lowercase is best
[15:48] <nemo> Ertyle: hell, ubotu just did 5 "lines" there.
[15:48] <alexvd_> Ertyle: I have tried to upgarde gutsy to hardy and it keeps hanging on checking package manager.
[15:48] <hardy64> whos cares dont do it
[15:48] <ubuntuROX_> ok, I just ran gksu "update-manager -c" and it still says no updates, how to I tell it to?
[15:48] <Whitor> bazhang, 4965
[15:48] <ikonia> zo0mguy: normally time out on their own
[15:48] <nemo> ikonia: gotcha.
[15:48] <Pici> nemo: Just use a pastebin next time :)
[15:48] <Ertyle> nemo: ok, but the channel is scrolling so fast that people will hardly have time to read your paste to begin with, so pastebin helps
[15:48] <bazhang> whitor does ifconfig show three entries or two?
[15:48] <nemo> Anyway, main point is. why is trackerd so damn greedy?
[15:48] <nemo> 36% of system memory
[15:48] <ikonia> nemo: what ?
[15:48] <Ertyle> alexvd_: i've upgraded using apt-get, however that's not supported and you need to be careful if you do it that way...
[15:49] <nemo> ikonia: my paste was of trackerd
[15:49] <Cen> JeOS is loading my CD drive as SCSI, it is then erroring (ata2: DRQ=1 with device error, dev_stat 0x49), but according to the JeOS Wiki it does not support SCSI devices, any ideas on how to force it to load the device as an IDE like normal ubuntu does?
[15:49] <ikonia> nemo: what's it doing,
[15:49] <Ertyle> nemo: perhaps it's indexing and the RAM usage will go down when it's finished indexing...
[15:49] <ikonia> Cen: we don't seuppot jeOS
[15:49] <nemo> Ertyle: naw. has been like that for days
[15:49] <Whitor> bazhang, I'm still on 7.10, I wanted to confirm that it would work before I upgraded... Wireless stopped working on my home unit... this is my work laptop and I cn't afford to have the wireless go down
[15:49] <alexvd_> Ertyle: i would prefer not to fubar my machine.
[15:49] <nemo> Ertyle: note the time running.
[15:49] <Cen> ikonia: where can i go for support?
[15:49] <doug2266778822> i had a prob with compiz so i did in term{compiz} and pastebined it someone in there said my vid drivers are not properly installed can anyone help me with this?        http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64240/ is what i linked to him.. anyone know how to fix this?
[15:49] <nemo> I did do one restart yesterday actually, but it was greedy before that too
[15:49] <mohbana> no torrent for hardY?
[15:49] <nemo> oh. no. I didn't do a restart yesterday
[15:49] <Ertyle> alexvd_: then file a bug about the update manager, i guess :|
[15:50] <nemo> my uptime is at 2 days
[15:50] <ikonia> Cen: actially, my mistake, wrong product
[15:50] <bazhang> whitor ah okay; maybe get a livecd when you have time (of the final) and take a look into a livecd session
[15:50] <eugman|college> How do i make a new user from the command line. Specifically one without sudo rights?
[15:50] <Ertyle> !torrents > mohbana    (mohbana, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:50] <ikonia> Cen: it is supported, my apologies
[15:50] <mphill> nemo: if you want to kill trackerd remove it from /etc/xdg/autostart
[15:50] <Ertyle> !adduser > eugman|college    (eugman|college, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:50] <alexvd_> ertyle: they have bugs filed about this going back to RC1.  I though the official release would fix
[15:50] <marek> !releasenotes
[15:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about releasenotes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:50] <bazhang> mohbana: did you read the link I gave you?
[15:50] <moise7000> upgrade in progress
[15:50] <eugman|college> thanks
[15:50] <nemo> mphill: don't want to kill it per se. just want to try and get it to behave
[15:50] <gord_slater> nemo: i seems to recall trackerd eating huge chunks out of my 7.10 boxes, after about 7 days led to total grind-to-halt, sorry dont recall how i got rid of it right now
[15:50] <Whitor> bazhang, Thats what I was thinking .. better safe than sorry.
[15:50] <Fdisk93> #ubuntu+1 #ubuntu Forwarding to another channel #ubuntu+1 full ??
[15:50] <Quicksilva> hi there. would it be recommended to use the 32bit version even if you have an amd 64 cpu?
[15:50] <bazhang> whitor all reports are that it works
[15:50] <nemo> gord_slater: well. don't really want to get *rid* of it...
[15:50] <ikonia> Quicksilva: depends on your needs
[15:50] <Quicksilva> of hardy heron i mean
[15:51] <julle__> is there anyone who has been successful with upgrading from the server edition beta?
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[15:51] <Ertyle> eugman|college: adduser will *not* give your user sudo rights by default
[15:51] <bazhang> Fdisk93: it is closed for now
[15:51] <gord_slater> nemo: fater 7 days, I sure did!
[15:51] <mphill> nemo: trackerd never behaved for me, I just scraped it.  I'll just have to remember were i put everything :)
[15:51] <gord_slater> after
[15:51] <ikonia> julle__: some of my machiens updated
[15:51] <rinaldi_> mohbana: im using it right now http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=z%82i%D1%80%1B%20%3F%96%EE%FB%D6%8C%BC%D6%80V%F8%CC%84
[15:51] <Fdisk93> k thank you
[15:51] <Ertyle> Fdisk93: no, #ubuntu+1 currently doesn't exist, as there is no +1 release even in alpha.
[15:51] <Quicksilva> ikonia, mainly internet browsing
[15:51] <ikonia> Quicksilva: 32bit will be fine then
[15:51] <umbrualbert> need help installing bcm4328 driver in Hardy
[15:51] <eugman|college> wow, help.ubuntu.com is taking a while to load
[15:51] <julle__> ikonia:  i performed an update earlier today but that was long before the LTS was releaseed
[15:51] <bazhang> nemo trackerd was something that gave me problems as well
[15:51] <BonezAU> anyone know how to open *.fdf files in ubuntu? it's an acrobat reader form
[15:51] <nemo> mphill: I was interested in it as a possible code indexer
[15:51] <ikonia> julle__: so it's not updated then
[15:51] <umbrualbert> Tried forums, no joy
[15:51] <Ertyle> eugman|college, the whole ubuntu.com is very slow.
[15:51] <Whitor> bazhang, I often take the risk anyway :) ... I'm just going to get a good image of my existing system first :)
[15:52] <odatona> hi! can anyone could give a link with postfix and dovecot tutorials for ubuntu or debian?
[15:52] <rinaldi_> eugman|college:  the whole site is slow
[15:52] <nemo> mphill: I have a lot of projects on this computer, I thought it would be useful for locating uses of methods
[15:52] <julle__> ikonia: what did u write to upgrade?
[15:52] <bazhang> whitor always a wise choice ;]
[15:52] <ikonia> odatona: https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:52] <amenado> where do they hide the debootstrap.**.deb for ubuntu, the older one i have has hardy pointing to gutsy ?
[15:52] <ikonia> julle__: I updated after release so the beta mark was removed
[15:52] <gord_slater> nemo:  this any help from 7.10 .... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591867
[15:52] <julle__> ikonia: i've tried apt-get dist-upgrade sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:52] <nemo> mphill: is trackerd essentially beagle? that .NET abomination?
[15:52] <Fdisk93> so is this the support channel for hardy now
[15:52] <ikonia> julle__: your packages are probably up to date
[15:52] <nemo> and I say that in the kindest possible terms. I spent a lot of time on beagle :)
[15:52] <nemo> including patches
[15:52] <Ertyle> Fdisk93: for hardy and for all supported versions
[15:52] <amenado> rather the debootstrap.**.deb i have points hardy to gutsy
[15:52] <ikonia> julle__: you just did it before the release mark was removed
[15:52] <hardy64> Isn't the GDM login screen resolution determined by the first item listed under display in xorg.conf? My screen resolution on GDM is not righ
[15:52] <gbossa> whats the name of the package to configure compiz? cant rememebr
[15:52] <Juan> How do I find the name and location of the gnome theme I am currently using? The theme manager just shows it as "custom"
[15:53] <mohbana> is there another cahnnel?
[15:53] <umbrualbert> Hardy BCM4328 wireless support
[15:53] <erUSUL> nemo: no; it is C based and in my experience beagle worked better
[15:53] <Ertyle> !ccsm | gbossa
[15:53] <ubotu> gbossa: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[15:53] <julle__> ikonia: yeah i guess so
[15:53] <Fdisk93> thank you again
[15:53] <nemo> erUSUL: well. beagle was also a hog ;)
[15:53] <odatona> ikonia: like setting it up together
[15:53] <lalalala> ..................
[15:53] <ikonia> odatona: yes, there is docs on that page
[15:53] <nemo> anyway, this is new behaviour for trackerd. had no issues in gutsy.
[15:53] <gbossa> cheers Ertyle
[15:54] <erUSUL> Juan: that's becouse you cnaged something (maybe icons theme)
[15:54] <julle__> ikonia: was it a big upgrade u did? or small?
[15:54] <eugman|college> hmmm, ok so I understand how to use adduser but what about the password, do i have to use a different program to set that?
[15:54] <erUSUL> nemo: but at least it worked teracker is a hog but shows half the info
[15:54] <ikonia> julle__: not much really, I've kept most of the test machines up to date
[15:54] <chmac> Does the Ubuntu CD contain most of the software the average laptop user would need?
[15:54] <cgentry72> I'm trying to share a folder and it has installed samba, however it says I do not have permission to share folders. Can someone help
[15:54] <zzantozz> anybody help with a ubuntu/java problem? running ubuntu 8.04 beta as LiveCD, java gives "error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so"
[15:54] <ikonia> chmac: sure
[15:54] <bazhang> chmac sure
[15:54] <chmac> I saw a DVD listed as a download option, is it worth the extra bandwidth?
[15:54] <ubuntuROX_> LOL, this reminds me of the rush to get the stuff from a fallen house in ultima online.
[15:54] <julle__> ikonia: hmm okey, maybe my machine is up to date, would be fun to check that somehow
[15:54] <ikonia> zzantozz: that library is not there, move to the stable cd
[15:54] <yell0w> /39/39
[15:54] <umbrualbert> Can anyone help with BCM 4328 wireless support
[15:54] <julle__> maybe to check what kernel is running?
[15:54] <cgentry72> chmac, yes and will download the rest
[15:55] <nemo> erUSUL: heh. I had indexing issues with beagle too ;)  but, at least I had RTFSed that one...
[15:55] <RedWar> I want to upgrade but right now I am on Gutsy 32 bit but I have over six gig of memory.  I will not be able to avoid 64 bit.  I cannot use update manager to upgrade from Gutsy 32 to Hardy 64, right?
[15:55] <ikonia> julle__: if apt-get update shows no updates, it's either a.) up to date b.) pointing at the wrong repo
[15:55] <gord_slater> nemo: i recall was a gutsy problem for me on boxes with abot 1-2TB of data esspecially many small text-like files, have you mounted new partitions or added drives that need an initial index run?
[15:55] <bazhang> chmac depends on you and mostly your dl speed; I would say no if you have decent speed
[15:55] <eugman|college> Oh, nevermind. i tried it
[15:55] <IsotropicSpin> ooo ooo ooo!!! whats on the DVD? can i just get that using the updater?
[15:55] <ikonia> RedWar: you need to fresh install from 32 -> 64 bit
[15:55] <doug2266778822> i need help with installing my nvidia driver can anyone help me? this is what errors i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64240/
[15:55] <IsotropicSpin> is it good stuff?
[15:55] <ubuntuROX_> what is the right repo?
[15:55] <ikonia> IsotropicSpin: read the docs
[15:55] <ikonia> ubuntuROX_: the installer sets it up for you
[15:55] <nemo> erUSUL: I do note with gratification that trackerd indexes file notes
[15:55] <inditech> hi there had to walk away from my question
[15:55] <inditech> will ask again...
[15:55] <IsotropicSpin> ikonia: sorry that question was so uncalled for!
[15:55] <julle__> ikonia:  i haven't changed anything in the repo since installation
[15:55] <nemo> erUSUL: that was always an irritation with beagle.  I had a patch for that, but it was pretty hackish
[15:56] <dethstar> anyone know how to add a trashcan back to the panel?
[15:56] <inditech> have been using the beta version of 8.04 for about 2 weeks now...
[15:56] <dethstar> mine is gone now
[15:56] <priman> ubuntu 8.04 installer cant find my partitions, what should i do?
[15:56] <mohbana> i need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[15:56] <ubuntuROX_> well, its telling me there are no updates, but still showing development version
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[15:56] <ubu> xyzz, fedora9 has the same firefox as ubuntu...
[15:56] <chmac> bazhang: I'm going to moving around a lot, so it might be easier to resume the iso download, what do you think?
[15:56] <bazhang> !trash | dethstar
[15:56] <ubotu> dethstar: The location of Trash has changed in 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash
=== LjL-Temp changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Ubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) is out, download torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent (or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent for AMD64, or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent for the Alternate CD, ask in #kubuntu for Kubuntu)
[15:56] <zzantozz> ikonia: the lib exists in /opt/jre1.6.0_05/lib/i386/jli (in the jre install dir); is it supposed to be somewhere in ubuntu? I tried copying it to /usr/lib, and got a the same error about libjava.so
[15:56] <inditech> and now the official LTS is out, do I have to reinstall
[15:56] <erUSUL> nemo: i used beagle for pdf & mails mainly
[15:56] <inditech> or can the update manager handle it?
[15:56] <cgentry72> dethstar, right click and choose add to panel
[15:56] <timsandtoms> Is anyone else NOT able to get 8.04 via the torrent?
[15:56] <ikonia> zzantozz: ldconfig does not look in /opt
[15:56] <rinaldi_> dethstar: right click on the bottom panel and do "add to panel
[15:56] <cgentry72> dethstar, then select trash can
[15:56] <dethstar> cgentry72, k
[15:56] <smithers> what best app to use to write php code? I need to be able to run it as well within the app
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[15:56] <dethstar> rinaldi_, ty
[15:57] <zachb> smithers: phpgedit
[15:57] <mok0> inditech: Yes, the update-manager handles it just great
[15:57] <nemo> erUSUL: oh well. I get the idea the upshot is no one knows why trackerd is a memory hog. it just is.
[15:57] <ubuntu_> help, i installed 8.04 x64 and wen it boots it says errorloading operating systerm
[15:57] <v0lksman> rohan:  you still here?
[15:57] <smithers> awesome thanks.
[15:57] <nemo> Anyone know where trackerd might log things?
[15:57] <nemo> so I could look for clues?
[15:57] <chmac> zachb: Does phpgedit auto-complete?
[15:57] <ubuntuROX_> so I am looking for something to explain whats wrong, Julle said it may be the wrong repo.
[15:57] <inditech> mok0, thanks although the updates the other day installed some stuff, and now doesn't want to know anymore!
[15:57] <nemo> and thanks for the xdg shutdown suggestion. I might need to do that
[15:57] <zachb> I just burnt an alternate CD, and when I run cdromupgrade, I get "Could not find the upgrade application archive, exiting"
[15:57] <jamiejackson> umbrualbert: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff <-- but see the third paragraph in the introduction and the note about the 4328 rev 3 in the step 2 instructions
[15:57] <cgentry72> I'm trying to share a folder and it has installed samba, however it says I do not have permission to share folders. Can someone help
[15:57] <RedWar> Thanks Ikonia.  I could upgrade to 32 perhaps and shrink volume for partition and have 64 added as another operating system, or is there a risk of overwrite?
[15:57] <julio_neto> I gotta go folks!
[15:57] <julio_neto> See ya!
[15:57] <zachb> nemo: like the files? I remember I removed them once , I forget where, though
[15:58] <AzizLight> if I have a MacBook Pro w/ Intel Core2Duo can I still install the x86 version of ubuntu or it's way better to install the 64bit version?
[15:58] <rinaldi_> damn, ran out of cd's and my download has just finshed :P
[15:58] <gopppp_> why is my torrnet not downloading
[15:58] <bazhang> AzizLight: youcan use either
[15:58] <gopppp_> it agt 0%
[15:58] <gopppp_> at
[15:58] <gopppp_> 10 mins
[15:58] <cgentry72> AzizLight, i haven't noticed a different in 32 or 64 bit
[15:58] <inditech> guess I can just try it later when I get home...
[15:58] <zachb> chmac: no clue
[15:58] <rinaldi_> gopppp_:  make sure you have correct ports open. Mine is going strong at 1.4mb/s
[15:58] <dethstar> cgentry72, the trashcan is not appearing on the panel :(
[15:58] <mok0> gopppp_: Stop the ufw firewall (if you're running hardy already)
[15:59] <cgentry72> dethstar, but you have chosen to add it right?
[15:59] <dethstar> cgentry72, I'm selecting add
[15:59] <whegge> has anyone else noticed that xmms has disappeared from 8.04?
[15:59] <gord_slater> nemo: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591867&page=5          2nd on page by Kevmaster explains ur problem maybe
[15:59] <gopppp_> oh
[15:59] <ubuntu_> i installed 8.04 x64 and wen it boots it says errorloading operating systerm
[15:59] <wigren> i downloaded, burned and inserted the 8.04-desktop-i386 cd. when i use the update manager to upgrade it says it needs to download 709M of packages. can't it get that off the cd?
[15:59] <timsandtoms> Why isn't the torrent working for 8.04? Torrents in general work, this one just isn't connecting to tracker
[15:59] <timsandtoms> wigren: No.
[15:59] <ArikTautendil> is there a .torrent to download hardy?
[15:59] <Exteris_> timsandtoms, my torrent is working
[15:59] <Exteris_> ArikTautendil, yes there is
[15:59] <zzantozz> ikonia: it's busy here, but i'll add one more thing--using the same setup with the same ubuntu and java installed in a VM works fine. just doesn't work running from LiveCD
[15:59] <bazhang> timsandtoms: they have dropping in and out for many of us
[15:59] <cgentry72> dethstar, right click the panel and choose properties and see if expand is clicked or not
[15:59] <yell0w> wigren: add the cd to your sources.list
[16:00] <timsandtoms> Exteris_ Dang, ok, thanks. The site kinda died for a minute for me and my friend(In a diff COUNTRY), so thats probably it.
[16:00] <doug2266778822> how do i get Deluge to run it does not want to start now.
[16:00] <ziggy> http://cbs3.com/topstories/officer.robert.melia.2.706410.html
[16:00] <timsandtoms> bazhang: Ah, sweet. Thanks.
[16:00] <chmac> This mirror lists 8.04-rc - that's the release candidate not the final version, right? http://cl.releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[16:00] <marcjank_> run utorrent through wine
[16:00] <inditech> goes without saying though, that anyone that has the torrent downloaded - please keep seeding!
[16:00] <dethstar> cgentry72, yes it is
[16:00] <rinaldi_> ArikTautendil:  there is. torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[16:00] <^pipe^> hi there
[16:00] <marcjank_> by far the best torrent client
[16:00] <yell0w> chmac: yes
[16:00] <bazhang> chmac: right; the /topic should have final
[16:00] <Ertyle> chmac: see /topic for the final release
[16:00] <^pipe^> how is the dist-upgrade going so far?
[16:00] <inditech> ^pipe^:hi
[16:00] <oriez> the upgrade stuck its download package 703 and doesnt move.......
[16:00] <cgentry72> dethstar, u want to add it to your desktop instead?
[16:01] <^pipe^> I'm at 1149
[16:01] <ArikTautendil> rindaldi, thnks
[16:01] <dethstar> not really, but i suppose I can
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[16:01] <rinaldi_> marcjank_:  there are native apps perfectly capable of handling torrents. such as transmission or deluge
[16:01] <ikonia> zzantozz: linker is is configurable easier on a install
[16:01] <^pipe^> I'm gonna do a fresh install... but I don't have any cdr's right now...
[16:01] <amenado> aw shucks, no new debootstrap for hardy, old 1.0.8 stil points to old gutsy
[16:01] <jgoo_> !isitout
[16:01] <ubotu> YES!
[16:01] <jgoo_> :)))))))
[16:01] <marcjank_> transmission and deluge don't work with my university's firewall
[16:01] <Hohlraum> someone have a link to the md5sum for ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[16:01] <^pipe^> and I also want to experience the dist-upgrade
[16:01] <bazhang> ubotu lag
[16:01] <ubotu> You have lag, I don't have lag
[16:01] <rinaldi_> ^pipe^:  same here need to go shop now
[16:02] <Impsyn> Hm, I'm trying to upgrade using http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading but the upgrade button never appears. Anyone got any recommendations?
[16:02] <ubuntu_> oh great
[16:02] <ubuntu_> terminal on the live cd dosent work
[16:02] <inditech> I would actually like to do a clean install, but when I boot the CD I cannot see my current linux partitiion - all I get is the option to resize my windows partition
[16:02] <erUSUL> Hohlraum: http://hobbsee.com/tmp/MD5SUMS
[16:02] <Hohlraum> ty
[16:02] <^pipe^> to let my non tech friends know if they can upgrade or not
[16:02] <inditech> not sure if anyone has any ideas
[16:02] <marcjank_> I had the exact settings for each, deluge and transmission would never seed or download, whereas utorrent does just fine
[16:02] <zzantozz> ikonia: i'm farily new to linux. do you mean that ubuntu can more easily find needed libs when installed rather than running from CD?
[16:02] <amenado> Impsyn-> you can use  apt-get update
[16:02] <Impsyn> thx amendado
[16:03] <ubuntu_> no terminal on the livecd????
[16:03] <swald> Bonjour !!!!
[16:03] <bazhang> hello swald
[16:03] <yell0w> zzantozz: more up-to-date yes , when you install and upgrade
[16:03] <inditech> anyone else seen the same problem (not seeing current linux partition when attempting to clean install)?
[16:03] <doug2266778822> how do i change the resolution ?
[16:03] <amenado> inditech-> running from liveCD does not mount your partitions from hard disk..you must mount it manually to see them
[16:04] <inditech> amenado: Thx, although I am choosing the install option from the grub loader rather than booting into the Live os
[16:04] <zzantozz> yell0w & ikonia: thx for the replies. gotta run
[16:04] <smithers> where do i find phpgedit? no in the repo's
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[16:04] <rinaldi_> doug2266778822: go System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[16:04] <marcjank_> doug2266778822 go to system->preferences->screenresolution
[16:04] <amenado> inditech-> what? what are you booting to?
[16:05] <tawt> lol.  www.ubuntu.com is taking forever to load
[16:05] <Impsyn> Still no upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04, via terminal or update manager. :-/
[16:05] <inditech> sorry - from the grub screen - top option to install
[16:05] <tim1> smithers: it's gphpedit I think
[16:05] <bazhang> tawt do tell ;]
[16:05] <erichammond> I have an Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy system running Transmission as a bittorrent seed. It peaked at 60Mbps outbound, then dropped down with CPU iowait soaring.  Any ideas? http://hardy.azeelo.com/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain.html
[16:05] <Nicekiwi9> :(
[16:05] <marcjank_> impsyn: apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:05] <mik3> i'm having some serious problems with my machine, i left it vpn'd in last night and today i woke up now there's no pptp manager on the network icon in the tool bar, i can't get to any web pages, only local ip addresses
[16:05] <Nicekiwi9> how can i start terminal?
[16:05] <^pipe^> I think today it's the first day the masses are paying attention to linux
[16:05] <talntid> can someone help me out with creating a samba share?
[16:05] <rasputnik> hi all. Are there downloadable vmware images for 8.04 anywhere?
[16:05] <smithers> tim1 thanks!
[16:06] <inditech> amenado, sorry - not got screen in front of me (at work) I think that the top option is a direct installer, rather than booting to the live environment
[16:06] <Impsyn> marcjank_: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:06] <marcjank_> rasputnik just download the iso
[16:06] <mikedep336> talntid, what do you need to know?
[16:06] <talntid> i *think* i have created it on the server, but I'm having trouble mounting it... but maybe I didn't create it right?
[16:06] <tim1> smithers: No problem. I'm mainly using nano and gedit for PHP development.
[16:06]  * Nicekiwi9 cries, there no terminal on live cd??
[16:06] <Frozenball> Can I just dump the cd to usb stick and boot it from there
[16:06] <Syntux> tim1, nano? for PHP wow
[16:06] <amenado> inditech-> please be in front of your machine so you can see what is going on, rather than guesssing
[16:06] <talntid> mount error 6 = No such device or address
[16:06] <doug2266778822> my screen resoluton is set to 640 x 800 how do i make it smaller all i have is that one and then 800x600 or something.
[16:06] <talntid> is the error that is being returned
[16:06] <MilitantPotato> Upgrade day, just like having 56k.
[16:07] <inditech> amenado, ok will try later from home
[16:07] <^pipe^> btw, the dist-upgrade should be p2p so it's quite faster...
[16:07] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:07] <tawt> militantpotato, nope, a little worse
[16:07] <bazhang> Impsyn: what does cat /etc/apt/sources.list show? gutsy or hardy
[16:07] <yaro> Hello, I have Hardy Heron installed now... but there's no 'Screens and Graphics' tool. Is there a way I can setup my monitor so I can get my full resolution again?
[16:07] <mikedep336> talntid: when you create a samba share, you aren't mounting anything
[16:07] <mikedep336> you right click on the folder to share
[16:07] <Impsyn> bazhang: gutsy
[16:07] <AzizLight> does anyone have a link with a step by step tutorial (or just a good tutorial) on how to install ubuntu on a macbook pro please?
[16:07] <doug2266778822>  my screen resoluton is set to 640 x 800 how do i make it smaller all i have is that one and then 800x600 or something.
[16:07] <artir> whats happening to the servers?
[16:07] <amenado> mohbana-> additional packages can always be installed  separately
[16:07] <artir> even the main page is down
[16:08] <fiXXXerMet> I have already 7.10 installed.  What is the recommended way to upgrade?  Through the Update Manager, or do a fresh install, or ??
[16:08] <mik3> i'm having some serious problems with my machine, i left it vpn'd in last night and today i woke up now there's no pptp manager on the network icon in the tool bar, i can't get to any web pages, only local ip addresses
[16:08] <dethstar> cgentry72, I just restarted x.... and all the trash cans I was trying to add all appeared.... I had like 30 trash cans on the panel.  lol
[16:08] <talntid> do'h. typo
[16:08] <mohbana> amenado: latexd is huge about 1gb
[16:08] <talntid> thanks
[16:08] <Frozenball> Ubuntu servers should be seperated
[16:08] <rhineheart_m> hello.. where to download the hardy server edition by torrent ?
[16:08] <bazhang> Impsyn: then you need to change those from gutsy to hardy first then update and dist-upgrade
[16:08] <pmvalente> as anybody know how to add a user in console mode?
[16:08] <amenado> mohbana-> still, you can download it separately
[16:08] <amenado> rhineheart_m-> read the topic please
[16:08] <christopher_> dethstar, yes sometimes that will happen.  sometimes you have to restartx sorry forgot about that one.
[16:08] <Myrtti> rhineheart_m: 32 or 64
[16:08] <Impsyn> bazhang: M'kay, thanks for the recommendation
[16:08] <dethstar> cgentry72, np
[16:08] <nemo> gord_slater: ah. impolite default prefs. thanks.
[16:09] <bazhang> Impsyn: no worries ;]
[16:09] <dmakalsky> Hi, is it safe it upgrade?
[16:09] <jtravnick> where is the md5 for hardy?
[16:09] <rhineheart_m> amenado, please read carefully what I need..
[16:09] <dethstar> christopher_, np
[16:09] <nemo> gord_slater: yeah. I don't need "faster indexing"  - I also blew away a bunch of files and masked off some bad paths
[16:09] <christopher_> dethstar, that's a lot of trash ;)
[16:09] <Nicekiwi9> Error loading operating system???
[16:09] <amenado> mik3-> if your vpn does not have a keep alive and network gets interrupted, it may just go to sleep mode and never wake up?
[16:09] <nemo> gord_slater: for example, I'd rather it not try and index 20 gigabyte data files ;)
[16:09] <Dominusx> help .... the graphis of kde4 is similary mac osx?
[16:09] <dethstar> christopher_, lol
[16:09] <rhineheart_m> Myrtti, 32. Thanks
[16:09] <inditech> will leave everyone to it - good luck one and all  - will check back later!
[16:09] <christopher_> Nicekiwi9, that doesn't sound good.
[16:09] <nemo> especially when those are *compressed* data files
[16:09] <inditech> cya
[16:09] <Dominusx> graphics
[16:09] <pmvalente> as anybody know how to add a user in console mode?
[16:09] <MilitantPotato> fiXXXerMet: I tend to do a fresh install, but my /home is on a separate drive so it saves a lot of hassle, but it's really up to you.
[16:09] <mikedep336> dmakalsky: what is your system?
[16:09] <Nicekiwi9> nope....
[16:09]  * Nicekiwi9 cries
[16:09] <doug2266778822> hello i need help setting up my nvidia card please anyone
[16:09] <yaro> Hello, I have Hardy Heron installed now... but there's no 'Screens and Graphics' tool. Is there a way I can setup my monitor so I can get my full resolution again?
[16:09] <carlosslack> e ae povao
[16:10] <mikedep336> or rather, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:10] <duaneb> Dominusx, kde4's graphics are sexy, though they AREN'T based on mac os x support
[16:10] <bazhang> Dominusx: if by the same you mean much better then yes
[16:10] <Nicekiwi9> wots worse is the terminal on the live cd dosent work >:(
[16:10] <carlosslack> aalguem do brasil ai ?
[16:10] <mik3> amenado : that wouldn't explain why it doesn't work after i reboot my computer
[16:10] <Pici> !br | carlosslack
[16:10] <ubotu> carlosslack: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[16:10] <pmvalente> xim
[16:10] <carlosslack> blz
[16:10] <Dominusx> and gnome ????????
[16:10] <mik3> i have no routes anywhere except to local ips
[16:10] <christopher_> yaro, not familiar with hardy heron but have you tried right clicking on your desktop to see if there is an option there
[16:10] <amenado> mik3-> what does not work? clarify
[16:10] <shane2peru> Does anyone know of an openoffice translator program in Ubuntu?
[16:10] <smithers> tim1 how does one actually compile the code to make sure it works using gphpedit?
[16:10] <amenado> !who | mik3
[16:10] <ubotu> mik3: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[16:11] <MilitantPotato> shane2peru: OpenOffice has several language packs
[16:11] <tim1> smithers: To compile which code?
[16:11]  * Nicekiwi9 runs back to windows crying
[16:11] <Myrtti> rhineheart_m: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-i386.iso.torrent
[16:11] <yaro> christopher: No, just the usual.
[16:11] <shane2peru> MilitantPotato, no, I mean a translator, that will translate a document into another language on the fly.
[16:11] <smithers> a simple php script how can i verify it works
[16:11] <tim1> smithers: PHP code doesn't need to be compiled. It's an interpreter language or are you talking of the source code of gphpedit?
[16:11] <smithers> and see output
[16:11] <tim1> smithers: ah.
[16:11] <MilitantPotato> shane2peru: ah, no idea, I use babelfish
[16:11] <christopher_> yaro, whats the usual?
[16:11] <tim1> smithers: php filename.php
[16:12] <smithers> cant be done within the app?
[16:12] <MilitantPotato> shane2peru: tried google?
[16:12] <bazhang> shane2peru: what langueage?
[16:12] <shane2peru> MilitantPotato, yeah, I know, I thought how hard would it be to tie OOo to Google Translator?
[16:12] <tim1> smithers: Please add my nickname in front of your messages since it's going to be highlighted.
[16:12] <rhineheart_m> Myrtti, thank you
[16:12] <shane2peru> bazhang, English->Spanish
[16:12] <dmakalsky> I have a tp x60... will hardy work?
[16:12] <zelrikriando> hmm my upgrade is stuck
[16:12] <wangfg> hello
[16:12] <smithers> tim1: any app that i can see output on itself
[16:12] <vido22> hi all
[16:12] <shane2peru> I know I can do that online, just thought it would be a nice if there was something that worked with ooo
[16:13] <doug2266778822> can anyone please help me?
[16:13] <yaro> christopher_: Things like themes, background, font, interface, and effects, nothing like Screens and Graphics. The new dialog doesn't let me set the monitor manually, which is what I REALLY need.
[16:13] <oholiks> so, I enabled bitmap fonts in fontconfig, can see the knickers font with xlsfonts, but aterm still cannot find it, worked before upgrade, any ideas where to look next?
[16:13] <shane2peru> doug2266778822, what is the problem
[16:13] <chris062689> So how's everyone enjoying 8.04?
[16:13] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: ask the group
[16:13] <ionstorm> !final | ionstorm
[16:13] <vido22> can i add one more colum to the table
[16:13] <chris062689> Now you guys can no longer tell me to go to #ubuntu+1 :D
[16:13] <christopher_> yaro, forgive me but are you using the latest ubuntu
[16:13] <MilitantPotato> shane2peru: maybe this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/anaphraseus/
[16:13] <rchase> if I am already dual booting, will wubi clobber grub?
[16:13] <doug2266778822> shane2peru: my resaluton is set to 800x 400 i need it smaller but all i have is that one and 640x800
[16:14] <smithers> i really dont see a difference between 7.10 and 8.04 yet
[16:14] <bazhang> http://www.smartlinkcorp.com/translation/translation-software-spanish-promt-MT71101-info.html shane2peru
[16:14] <yaro> christopher_: Yes, I am.
[16:14] <chris062689> Did they get all of the kinks worked out of the new GNOMEVS thing?
[16:14] <mohbana> amenado: latexd is huge about 1gb
[16:14] <smithers> tim1. any ideas?
[16:14] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:14] <tim1> smithers: I haven't used gPHPedit for a long time. I'm using the console to test my PHP scripts since I actually use PHP for client software and not for websites. If you want to use PHP for websites, use a webserver instead. LightTPD is a fast one.
[16:14] <oddalot> what does the LTS stand for?
[16:14] <blankboy> smithers: copy some files.
[16:14] <wangfg> i have use update then distupgrade, is it release version now?
[16:14] <MilitantPotato> shane2peru: the real time translation might be harder to come by I'd guess
[16:14] <chris062689> oddalot: Long Term Support
[16:14] <tim1> oddalot: Long term Suppor
[16:14] <oddalot> ahh thanks
[16:14] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: i have asked 20 times no one seems to want to help me.
[16:14] <christopher_> yaro, if your using the latest version have you click on system at the top and chose preferences and screen resolution
[16:14] <christopher_> doug2266778822, don't get frustrated, someone help figure it out
[16:14] <amenado> mohbana-> still, you can download it separately, no matter how huge
[16:14] <shane2peru> doug2266778822, hmm, sounds like X isn't setup correctly, I'm not too good at that stuff.
[16:15] <rwycuff> wow the ubuntu site seems to be lagging
[16:15] <rasputnik> much of a difference between server and desktop (apart from size)? haven't used ubuntu for a year or so
[16:15] <yaro> christopher_: Again, I say, that dialog provides no way to set my monitor manually. Just the less-than-useful detect button.
[16:15] <doug2266778822> shane2peru: my nvidia driver is not installed.
[16:15] <oddalot> woah, are the ubuntu servers really slow right now, i'm only getting like 30kb/s
[16:15] <christopher_> yaro, im really confused because i'm using the same version and I can set my resolution
[16:15] <shane2peru> MilitantPotato, well, I guess even translate a written doc, without copying pasting into a browser.
[16:15] <andycaass> Do I have to do some uprading when i currently have RC??
[16:15] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: its a big group because of all the activity today.  sorry mate.
[16:16] <oddalot> holy crap , 1,634 people in one channel, never seen that many
[16:16] <yaro> christopher_: Nono, you're not quite getting what I am saying. I am trying to set my MONITOR, not my resolution. I don't get my max possible resolution bexcause I can't tell it exactly what model my monitor is.
[16:16] <mohbana> d
[16:16] <andycaass> Do I have to do some updating when i currently have RC??
[16:16] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: np just it is getting hard to look at the screen with this res. setting.
[16:16] <shane2peru> bazhang, I like MilitantPotato's suggestion, it is free. :)  Thanks both of ya for the info.
[16:16] <max-_-> dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `o3read' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed.
[16:16] <Myrtti> andycaass: yes
[16:16] <dman92> oddalot: the day of the release? yes.
[16:16] <Kr0ntab> what is the native resolution supposed to be on your monitor?
[16:16] <andycaass> Myrtti: What do i have to do?
[16:16] <max-_-> i get this error for every package
[16:16] <shane2peru> bazhang, I will have to try the free first, and then thing about investing. :)
[16:16] <oddalot> well i take that back 1636....never seen THAT many
[16:16] <mohbana> amenado: i'd rather not do that, it's really inconvenient
[16:16] <christopher_> yaro, i understand now but you stated resolution sorry
[16:17] <wangfg> oddalot: how can you see how many people on chat?
[16:17] <christopher_> yaro, alright, let me look at a few things give me a minute
[16:17] <bazhang> shane2peru: free on is better ;]
[16:17] <oddalot> xchat on top of the user list
[16:17] <max-_-> all my file-list-files are missing
[16:17] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: what is the native resolution supposed to be on your monitor?
[16:17] <shane2peru> bazhang, ha ha, that is why we use Linux. :)
[16:17] <Myrtti> andycaass: wait untiil your updatemanager tells you need to do updates
[16:17] <bazhang> shane2peru: ;]
[16:17] <MrObvious> I can't connect to ubuntu's website. Can someone help me out to download the 64 bit ISO torrent? A direct link would be nice.
[16:17] <hb> what does the alternate cd do again?
[16:17] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: somethng in the 1000's
[16:17] <rasputnik> hb: text installer
[16:17] <hb> that's for people with raid setups right?
[16:18] <wangfg> oddalot: i use irssi
[16:18] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent MrObvious
[16:18] <oddalot> i don't know then
[16:18] <andycaass> Myrtti: wasnt there a terminal command to distro updating?
[16:18] <MrObvious> bazhang, That's the link I tried.
[16:18] <dsargean1> yaro, run sudo displayconfig-gtk
[16:18] <bazhang> oops sorry MrObvious
[16:18] <hb> hmm
[16:18] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:18] <kbrosnan> wangfg: script for user counting on irssi.org
[16:18] <Myrtti> hb: or wierd display/graphics drivers, or raid, or encryption
[16:18] <christopher_> yaro, well ur right, not much of a hardware configuration tool available but i'm still looking
[16:18] <yell0w> MrObvious: http://davang.org/ubuntu/
[16:18] <hb> yea raid, that's what I need it for
[16:18] <christopher_> yaro, be right back
[16:18] <MrObvious> That works yell0w thanks.
[16:19] <andycaass> Why cant i access ubuntu wiki?
[16:19] <yaro> dsargean1: This is EXACTLY what I am looking for! Thanks!
[16:19] <wangfg> kbrosnan: thx
[16:19] <yell0w> MrObvious: np
[16:19] <mohbana> the website is so slow
[16:19] <yaro> I wish I could understand WHY the Ubuntu developers took that out of the menus.
[16:19] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: u know how i can get it smaller?
[16:19] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent MrObvious how about this one
[16:19] <oddalot> i want my money back
[16:19] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: thats where I would start first.  Get your monitors recommended resolution from documentation... and the video cards supported resolutions.  we can then start from there.
[16:19] <glenn7> hi there - any news about a ps3 release build?
[16:20] <MrObvious> I got it from yell0w baz thanks though.
[16:20] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: its something like 1048x800 or so
[16:20] <bazhang> okay sorry about the lag MrObvious
[16:20] <yaro> dsargean1: Thank you very much. I need to make sure I can remember this for future reference.
[16:20] <andycaass> Why cant i access ubuntu wiki?
[16:21] <max-_-> anyone? -> http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/201449/
[16:21] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: its actually fairly easy... /etc/X11/xorg.conf is where you specify the resolutions.  but if your monitor / vid card is something obscure... then it may not have put the appropriate res. in there.  you'll have to manually find the right values.
[16:21] <yell0w> andycaass: crunch time :B
[16:21] <bazhang> andycaass: why wiki when you have us? ;]
[16:21] <yell0w> lol bazhang
[16:21] <dsargean1> yaro: no problem.  They removed it from the menu to avoid confusion with the other resolution gui and I'm assuming to keep people from breaking x.
[16:21] <oddalot> max, try uninstalling and reinstalling the packages?
[16:21] <dmb> wow! thats a lot of users in this channel
[16:21] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: how can i find the right ones?
[16:22] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: I need to jet to work... but find those first, and someone will be able to help you.
[16:22] <max-_-> oddalot, all my package/filelistfiles er missing
[16:22] <max-_-> thats just a snippet
[16:22] <oddalot> wow, you ride a jet to work?
[16:22] <tawt> how can i tell which kernel i'm using?
[16:22] <bazhang> !party | dmb
[16:22] <ubotu> dmb: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[16:22] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: documentation for the monitor model number
[16:22] <oddalot> max, that sounds like the problem then
[16:22] <roocraig> what is the command to find out what soundcard you have?
[16:22] <max-_-> odatona, right :)
[16:22] <max-_-> oddalot, right
[16:22] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: e.g. if you have an NEC monitor... search for the model number on the internet... maybe the users manual for the monitor and it will tell you.
[16:23] <gord_slater> tawt: uname -a usually does it i think
[16:23] <roocraig> tawt: system:about ubuntu
[16:23] <Kr0ntab> doug2266778822: good luck mate.
[16:23] <mangol> if i download 8.04 and then i can upgrade ubuntu 7.10? if yes? how ? thanks
[16:23] <max-_-> oddalot, i removed accidently all the files in that /var..... folder
[16:23] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:23] <ubuntu999> hi can i install and run nvidia drivers in livecd mode 8.04 ?
[16:23] <tawt> awesome!  i finally got the new kernel to boot!
[16:23] <andycaass> bazhang: I want wiki because it contains driver information for my nx6325 laptop, thanks.......
[16:23] <dredhammer> hello is there a fix for the failed to initialize HAL error in the later -15/-16 kernels in Hardy Heron?
[16:24] <zachb> cdromupgrade isn't working for me
[16:24] <andycaass> So is it down for just me or noone cant access it?
[16:24] <bazhang> oh sorry andycaass was just joking
[16:24] <gord_slater> tawt: gratz u roll it yuourself?
[16:24] <doug2266778822> Kr0ntab: i found it
[16:24] <beex> how do I look at the channel's title?
[16:24] <roocraig> can anyone help me get sound on my laptop-please. I am a newbie and need some help? Thanks :)
[16:24] <oddalot> so make sure you repositories are correct, and erase, then reinstall everything that is giving you problems....you gotta learn to troubleshoot
[16:24] <bazhang> beex /topic
[16:24] <beex> bazhang, thanks
[16:24] <zachb> I had to edit it in order for the upgrade manager to start, then it fails after Preparing to upgrade
[16:24] <rasputnik> andycaass, tried google cache?
[16:24] <lalalala> download too slow!!!!
[16:24] <tawt> gord_slater, at first booting would only give me a black screen, but after reconfiguring xserver and booting from recovery mode, it works
[16:25] <MilitantPotato> lalalala: you're not kidding :)
[16:25] <mohbana> hello...
[16:25] <macpo4> is it possible to upgrade from 7.10 i386 to 8.04 amd64 in one step?
[16:25] <hb> Is the ubuntu torrent tracker running?  It seems to be having problems :x
[16:25] <andycaass> rasputnik: it doesnt want to work either, infinite loading time :/
[16:25] <rasputnik> amd64 torrent seems to have finally woken up, cool.
[16:25] <tscolin> is the new ubuntu cd, a livecd?
[16:25] <bazhang> doug2266778822: you having troubles with drivers? are you on hardy?
[16:25] <tscolin> or just install?
[16:25] <Koheleth> how do I not have a backgroung for my desktop without deleting my wallpapers?
[16:25] <gord_slater> tawt: ah ok sounds like xserver config cured it then
[16:25] <Zelta> macpo4: no....
[16:25] <mangol> bazhang: if i download 8.04 and then i can upgrade ubuntu 7.10? if yes? how ? thanks, because the downloading is very slow ...
[16:25] <bazhang> tscolin: both
[16:25] <christopher_> macpo4, no you have to install it
[16:25] <tawt> gord_slater  yep :D
[16:25] <christopher_> macpo4, i believe
[16:26] <tscolin> bazhang: fantastic
[16:26] <tscolin> does it support intels wireless n card?
[16:26] <bazhang> mangol: via the alternate cd? or you want to upgrade via the net
[16:26] <Zelta> you can't go from i386 to amd64 just by upgrading
[16:26] <Pici> mangol: The Alternate CD is the only one that supports doing an upgrade.
[16:26] <christopher_> Koheleth, did you choose a background from a different partition, like windows partition?
[16:26] <leonbrussels> mangol:  I think you can select your CD in "Software Sources and then upgrade as normal and it will get the packages from the cd"
[16:26] <roocraig> any audio people here?
[16:26] <mangol> bazhang: alternate cd
[16:26] <tale_> does anybody know of an alternative product to the Red Hat Network that I can use to manage a group of ubuntu servers from a single console?  I don't want to have to login to each server for upgrades or to see stats.
[16:26] <Koheleth> no
[16:26] <tscolin> roocraig, im an advid audio guy :D
[16:26] <bazhang> mangol: should do then yes
[16:26] <MilitantPotato> bazhang: give me two seconds
[16:27] <doug2266778822> can someone help me with my video please here is the outlook of my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64243/
[16:27] <Koheleth> but if I want to have just a black background I seem to have to delete the wallpapers?
[16:27] <bazhang> doug2266778822: you on hardy?
[16:27] <rasputnik> tale_, canonical support do a thing called Landscape. Haven't tried but it sounds like a RHN clone.
[16:27] <Myrtti> Koheleth: no
[16:27] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:27] <mangol> bazhang: thanks dear, will it ask me to upgrade or a difficult procedure?
[16:27] <MilitantPotato> bazhang: download the hardy alternate CD, and read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-7311a7de9fdf1ca310c6937460c0a9d33f54279d
[16:27] <doug2266778822> bazhang: yes i am
[16:27] <lalalala> download too slow!!!!
[16:27] <mohbana> very slow
[16:28] <rasputnik> lalalala, use a mirror.
[16:28] <tscolin> 30k here
[16:28] <bazhang> doug2266778822: you might try envyng-gtk then
[16:28] <Myrtti> Koheleth: up left corner
[16:28] <rwycuff> tale: the idea would be to setup deb respo of your own and use something liek rsync to config all servers to update from it but thats more time spent then just running the update from term on each
[16:28] <hb> the torrents arn't working :/
[16:28] <askand> Hi, I am having troubles with Hardy.  The driversmanager wont tell me that I have an ATI-card..solutions?
[16:28] <MilitantPotato> lalalala: there's a few tens of thousands (or more) people downloading 800mb of packages, try a mirror or upgrade via a CD
[16:28] <rasputnik> 500kKB/sec on the torrent here
[16:28] <ikerc> where ?
[16:28] <hb> I can't get the tracker to respond
[16:28] <bazhang> thanks MilitantPotato that was for mangol (see upthread mangol)
[16:28] <^^malajenho^> hi, I'm starting with linux and ubuntu, what do u think is the best option? create only 1 partition for / or 1partition for / and another for /home ???
[16:28] <mohbana> very slow
[16:28] <doug2266778822> bazhang:  what is that?
[16:28] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:28] <J3roen> anyone else get an cifs error while booting? Can't find the problem. Same problems as this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4741275
[16:28] <ikerc> where ? for 500kkb/s
[16:28] <Koheleth> sorted
[16:28] <Koheleth> thanks
[16:28] <XLV> any .torrents for DVD version of 8.04 i386?
[16:29] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk hardy | doug2266778822
[16:29] <ubotu> doug2266778822: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[16:29] <Myrtti> Koheleth: np
[16:29] <Koheleth> one of the apparent wallpapers is just a colour
[16:29] <xif> Congratulations upon the release of Hardy?
[16:29] <leonbrussels> I upgraded to Hardy,now with the new kernel it hangs after USB init, the old kernel works though
[16:29] <xif> err, s/?/!/
[16:29] <bazhang> xif it's a boy
[16:29] <schilly> ^^malajenho^: one for / and one for /home ... yes. and / needs just 10gb max on average
[16:29] <mangol> bazhang: where can i found the new hardware support for Intel 946GZ motherboard for ubuntu 8.04 LTS ?
[16:29] <christopher_> Koheleth, that is correct, it looks like a picture but it's the color you select at the bottom
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[16:29] <MaCkeR> Everyone: I got .torrent of DVD version after an hour of trying. Mirroring it on www.aamod.co.nr
[16:29] <bazhang> mangol: not sure about that
[16:29] <MaCkeR> grab it if u want it fast
[16:30] <colmar> hi
[16:30] <mangol> bazhang: ok dear thanks
[16:30] <christopher_> bazhang, it's the first wallpaper (color)
[16:30] <XLV> MaCkeR, where you got the .torrent?
[16:30] <bazhang> hi colmar
[16:30] <colmar> there is a graphical hex editor for ubuntu?
[16:30] <jatt> emacs
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[16:30] <tale_> rwycuff, yeah.  I know I can do that.  I've seen commercial products that let you use one application to see all installed packages, hardware specs, load, etc for all of your machines.  They call it data center automation
[16:30] <MaCkeR> XLV, on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[16:30] <pheriod> colmar, try ghex
[16:30] <Pici> colmar: ghex
[16:30] <artir> the servers are pwned!
[16:30] <MaCkeR> XLV, I've its MD5SUMS also
[16:30] <mangol> lol, ubuntu.com --- cannot find server---- server is busy
[16:30] <pheriod> anyone here got f-spot running?
[16:30] <tale_> I'm looking for an open source product that does data center automation
[16:31] <roocraig> how do I find out what soundcard I have?
[16:31] <dredhammer> hello is there a fix for the failed to initialize HAL error in the later -15/-16 kernels in Hardy Heron?
[16:31] <MaCkeR> XLV al mirrors r damn busy
[16:31] <pheriod> roocraig, lspci
[16:31] <erUSUL> roocraig: lspci
[16:31] <tononoinks> anybody here with vostro 1400?
[16:31] <XLV> MaCkeR, cdimage.ubuntu.com doesnt load atm...
[16:31] <rwycuff> tale_:so google data center automation and see what turns up
[16:31] <bazhang> roocraig: what does lspci say in terminal
[16:31] <Finnish> My hardy is beta-version, and I lost my update-icon on ad-menu a few days ago. Any news how this will be fixed?
[16:31] <MaCkeR> Get torrent n go P2P
[16:31] <doug2266778822> bazhang: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk ?
[16:31] <tommydanger> is the rc identical to the final or do I have to update?
[16:31] <Pici> tale_: You may want to ask in ##linux , we're a bit flooded here due to the Ubuntu release
[16:31] <bazhang> doug2266778822: aye
[16:31] <MaCkeR> XLV, Ya! I got it after trying for an hour
[16:31] <Koheleth> <chhristopher_> yeah, it took me a minute or 2, I am not the sharpest tool in the box :)
[16:31] <zachb> mangol: well, its being essentially DDoS'd
[16:31] <MilitantPotato> evny is evil
[16:31] <Pici> MilitantPotato: envyng is in the hardy repos
[16:31] <rchase> if I am already dual booting, will wubi clobber grub?
[16:31] <MaCkeR> XLV, So just mirroring it for helping others..
[16:31] <bazhang> MilitantPotato: now blessed for hardy
[16:32] <christopher_> Koheleth, no problems! i didn't notice it right away either
[16:32] <oddalot> how does ubuntu get financial support...anyone know?
[16:32] <ssam> new mirror http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU8GIRUd_g
[16:32] <MilitantPotato> bazhang:  Pici  I never thought I'd see the day.
[16:32] <vincent> hi
[16:32] <christopher_> oddalot, the founder was a millionaire
[16:32] <bazhang> rchase not likely
[16:32] <Koheleth> they say things right in your face are harder to sort out
[16:32] <colmar> ok, 09 is TAB?:)
[16:32] <Jaymac> christopher_: he still is :)
[16:32] <christopher_> oddalot, and has a lot of contributions
[16:32] <jatt> oddalot: philanthropy
[16:32] <MaxMad> Hello
[16:32] <Koheleth> who 'they' are I have no idea
[16:32] <christopher_> Jaymac, right sorry
[16:32] <oddalot> heh, is that really considered philanthropy...supporting linux geeks?
[16:32] <guillaume__> Am I the only one having slow performance  with the torrent ?!?!?!
[16:33] <bazhang> guillaume__: some of us are having issues with the tracker as well
[16:33] <jatt> oddalot: ubuntu's owner is a billionaire
[16:33] <mohbana> ii need to get hardy in dvd form, because we need latex.   my question is dvd only for installation as i can't use it like the live cd?
[16:33] <Mortuis> Anyone know of a good command line email client that can handle multiple email accounts and keep them seperate?
[16:33] <Oscar_> hola a todos
[16:33] <jatt> !es | Oscar_
[16:33] <bazhang> is the dvd a live dvd?
[16:33] <ubotu> Oscar_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:33] <zachb> Mortuis: mail
[16:33] <rchase> oddalot: offering a free OS to the world is pilanthropy
[16:33] <rasputnik> Mortuis, mutt FTW.
[16:33] <Koheleth> is he a billionaire or just loaded?
[16:33] <MaCkeR> ya the DVD is live dvd
[16:33] <Mortuis> rasputnik: Thanks
[16:34] <os2mac> ubotu !torrent os2mac
[16:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torrent os2mac - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:34] <oddalot> it's not saving lives per se though...
[16:34] <madrazr> Hii all
[16:34] <bazhang> mohbana: dvd is live dvd thanks MaCkeR
[16:34] <ranjan> dvd is not live ubuntu on it is live
[16:34] <evand> rchase: no, it wont.
[16:34] <Gretyl> anyone know if 8.04 supports installing to an external USB drive from the launch i386 CD?
[16:34] <bazhang> !torrents | os2mac
[16:34] <ubotu> os2mac: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[16:34] <madrazr> all the deb files are cached in /var/cache/apt/archives, and as I have experienced, the cache limit is 500MiB, how to make it infinite or to change it to a larger valu?
[16:34] <oddalot> how fast is the torrent going right now? anyone know?
[16:35] <leonbrussels> Anyone on my hang-after-USB init problem?
[16:35] <doug2266778822> bazhang: now what?
[16:35] <r0b> fast
[16:35] <qualidafial> Do I need to do something special for apt-get dist-upgrade to see the updates?  I've already run apt-get update
[16:35] <calc> the easy way to get it of course is just to rsync an older image, if you have one
[16:35] <Riff_451> hi all. i'm trying the upgrade from 7.10 but i can't free space in /var. i made apt-get clean but it isn't enough. What else could i delete?
[16:35] <rasputnik> oddalot, 300 - 700Kb here
[16:35] <ubuntuROX_> What does this mean? current dist not found in meta-release file
[16:35] <calc> eg a test image from a couple days ago
[16:35] <bazhang> doug2266778822: launch it
[16:35] <qualidafial> server i386 torrent has 340 in swarm
[16:35] <doug2266778822> bazhang: where is it in?
[16:35] <roocraig> bazhang: can you help me with my audio problem?
[16:35] <oddalot> ok i'm going to switch to that...the upgrade is only getting 40kb/s
[16:35] <madrazr> how to increase the apt archives cache size?? Can someone help me please?
[16:35] <ubuntuROX_> I get that when I run the update manager in terminal
[16:35] <calc> when i tried updating my dvd from a couple days ago it didn't update anything since it was already the final version, md5sum checked out as well :)
[16:36] <eolo999> Congrats to every member of the ubuntu community!
[16:36] <bazhang> doug2266778822: try envyng-gtk from the terminal or run command see if that does it
[16:36] <ubuntuROX_> I think it explains why its not updating the beta version
[16:36] <mangol> bazhang: the size of 8.04 LTS alternate CD is 697mb ?
[16:36] <artir> the servers are down or what?
[16:36] <xanax`> hello
[16:36] <bazhang> mangol: sounds right
[16:36] <mangol> bazhang: ok :)
[16:36] <bazhang> artir really? what could be the cause
[16:36] <swilky> Can some one help me understand something about DNS PM me
[16:36] <artir> hardy of course
[16:37] <Adlai> swilky: just ask here
[16:37] <qualidafial> the ubuntu tracker keeps going down
[16:37] <mangol> oh my i cant download it, downloading process stops, i think server is tooo busy,
[16:37] <kilrae> is the tracker down for the torrents?
[16:37] <swilky> OK here gose
[16:37] <r0b> anyone else getting could not connect to server on the alternate cd
[16:37] <monkeyBox> Ack!!  I just ran the distro upgrade and a couple of hours later my electricity went out so my comp rebooted.  What do I do??
[16:37] <bazhang> roocraig: please state your problem clearly; if someone knows they will answer thanks
[16:37] <Koheleth> How do I make the desktop icons smaller
[16:37] <ubuntuROX_> has anyone been able to update from the beta version to the released version with update manager?
[16:37] <artir> torrents are OK
[16:37] <swilky> i have perchest a domain name
[16:37] <oddalot> hey, does the torrent upgrade, or can you only install a fresh copy?>
[16:37] <swilky> and set up bind
[16:37] <artir> updates wont work today IMO
[16:37] <woj> hi, anybody can recommend program which i can use to create mp3 disc @ CDR?
[16:38] <bazhang> oddalot the alternate can
[16:38] <christopher_> Koheleth, you can right click on the icons and size them i believe
[16:38] <artir> the torrent download a ubuntu new iso
[16:38] <r0b> woj: k3b
[16:38] <swilky> but do i need to register my name server at the .net registry ?
[16:38] <christopher_> Koheleth, choose stretch
[16:38] <oddalot> are there any downsides to the alternate?
[16:38] <roocraig> My sound card is: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0  (rev 01)--the headphones work fine but there is no sound out of laptop speakers:(
[16:38] <woj> thx r0b
[16:38] <Koheleth> stretch icon!
[16:38] <Koheleth> ok
[16:38] <tscolin> osu is slow as balls, its a damn shame i cant use torrents at work
[16:38] <r0b> woj: np
[16:38] <xanax`> I own an Intel Core 2 Duo, should I download the 64 bits version (AMD64) ?
[16:38] <tscolin> yes
[16:38] <darthanubis> anyone know when the repos will be updated with final?
[16:38] <christopher_> Koheleth, im guessing let me look lol
[16:38] <doug2266778822> bazhang: im getting a warning sign then it froze and 0% connecting...
[16:38] <twanj> tscolin: you could use a metalink :)
[16:38] <oddalot> oh well, i should really just install fresh anyway i guess
[16:38] <os2mac> have they NOT started seeding the torrents yet?
[16:38] <bazhang> oddalot well you want to updtae via cd right? then the laternate does that
[16:39] <mphill> xanax`: You can, but but you might run into issues from time to time with i386 only packakges.
[16:39] <Koheleth> what if you want them all exactly the same size
[16:39] <bazhang> doug2266778822: give it a bit of time
[16:39] <Koheleth> thats a pain, something for Gnome to work on
[16:39] <oddalot> update is sounding more and more sketchy the more i think about it, i think i'll just install fresh system
[16:39] <christopher_> Koheleth, that just makes them bigger doesn't it
[16:39] <xanax`> tscolin : but I fear that all packages don't have a 64 bits equilavant version ..
[16:39] <Koheleth> and smaller
[16:40] <Koheleth> but you cant set to a exact pixel
[16:40] <ikonia> xanax`: not all do
[16:40] <Koheleth> you have to guess
[16:40] <ikonia> xanax`: most do though
[16:40] <doug2266778822> bazhang: all i get is still those two to pick from.
[16:40] <os2mac> anyone know the status of the bittorrent trackers?
[16:40] <coraline> i forgot to turn this off
[16:40] <PupUser-da5233> if i install ubuntu on my vista computer, will it automatically preserve my vista installation?
[16:40] <qualidafial> os2mac: working on my side.  the torrent trackers are really getting hammered though
[16:40] <bazhang> doug2266778822: what two; plesae specify
[16:40] <leonbrussels> PLease someone on my hang-at-boot-after-usb problem... :(
[16:40] <ubunturox> this totally cured my flu
[16:40] <Koheleth> you have to have a good eye I guess
[16:41] <mayakuza_> can someone help me to get DC++?
[16:41] <coraline> what do you do with this program?
[16:41] <christopher_> PupUser-da5233, that depends if u partition it right
[16:41] <oddalot> pupuser- yes, if you install it right
[16:41] <qualidafial> os2mac: It's been several minutes since the tracker responded, however once you get into the swarm it's not such a problem
[16:41] <bazhang> coraline what program
[16:41] <PupUser-da5233> will it help me thru partitioning?
[16:41] <doug2266778822> bazhang: 800x600 and 640x480
[16:41] <christopher_> PupUser-da5233, you should end up with four partitions
[16:41] <pvandewyngaerde> can i make jigdo use the packages i allready have downloaded in my /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[16:41] <xanax`> and the 64 bits version really gives extra performance ?
[16:41] <tapas> hmm, i can't switch to external vga anymore with hardy
[16:41] <madrazr> how to increase the apt archives cache size?? Can someone help me please?
[16:41] <tapas> on my thinkpad t21
[16:41] <ikonia> xanax`: doubtful
[16:41] <tapas> any hints?
[16:41] <swilky> Do i have to register my DNS server for my domain name to work?
[16:41] <coraline> this thing im typing on
[16:41] <coraline> in
[16:41] <oddalot> pupuser - grup is an excellent boot loader
[16:41] <bazhang> doug2266778822: did you run envyng-gtk?
[16:41] <xanax`> ok, i'll stick to 32 bits then.
[16:41] <oddalot> grub*
[16:41] <PupUser-da5233> thanks guys
[16:41] <coraline> are you people in my computer?
[16:41] <yell0w> swilky: probably
[16:41] <tapas> coraline: yes
[16:41] <doug2266778822> bazhang: yes
[16:41] <swilky> where do i do that?
[16:41] <mayakuza_> can someone help me to get DC++?
[16:41] <drobvice> how can you tell if you are running 8.04 final?
[16:41] <oddalot> heh, in reality a good partitioner would delete vista by default
[16:41] <tapas> coraline: you should clean your keyboard
[16:42] <bazhang> doug2266778822: that is not possible--it takes 10 or so minutes
[16:42] <doug2266778822> bazhang: how i find exactly what one i have
[16:42] <yell0w> drobvice: system >> about ubuntu
[16:42] <coraline> what
[16:42] <coraline> ?
[16:42] <doug2266778822> bazhang: well it did it rebooted as well
[16:42] <qualidafial> doug2266778822: lsb_release -a
[16:42] <smithers> what am i missing i can see my windows box from 8.04 but it shows no shares. I know there on it
[16:42] <doug2266778822> bazhang: could i have ran the wrong one?
[16:42] <coraline> help
[16:42] <swilky> where do i register my dns server?
[16:43] <bazhang> doug2266778822: try running it again--should be in your menus either admin or apps
[16:43] <doug2266778822> bazhang: No LSB modules are available.
[16:43] <doug2266778822> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[16:43] <doug2266778822> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04
[16:43] <doug2266778822> Release:	8.04
[16:43] <doug2266778822> Codename:	hardy
[16:43] <FloodBot1> doug2266778822: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <Mighty^^> all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[16:43] <Riff_451> hi all. i'm trying the upgrade from 7.10 but i can't free space in /var. i made apt-get clean but it isn't enough. What else could i delete in /var?
[16:43] <christopher_> doug2266778822, questions. have you tried selecting the resolution from the boot menu?
[16:44] <doug2266778822> christopher_: no
[16:44] <qualidafial> tracker's back up--quick, overwhelm it!
[16:44] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Can you add DVD torrents too?
[16:44] <smithers> so issue is hardy sees no shares on my windows box when its on the network
[16:44] <drobvice> yell0w: I tried that and it doesn't really say the version number.  Only "Ubuntu - The Linux for Human Beings"
[16:44] <dethstar> is ubuntu.com down?
[16:44] <christopher_> doug2266778822, i'm not sure if that will do it or not but it should remember it the next time. try it and see
[16:44] <gord_slater> well, i'm off for a bit, good luck ppl, have fun :) history in the making etc etc
[16:44] <mooboo1> i am uploading torrent at 1350 kbyte/s
[16:44] <jmibanez> where do i ask routing and iproute2 related questions? thanks
[16:44] <dolly_> coucou tlm
[16:44] <coraline> i installed ubuntu on this computer but it don't say what these programs are
[16:45] <mphill> dethstar: the servers are getting hammered, a lot of people are interested in gutsy
[16:45] <qualidafial> dethstar: you may have to refresh a few times.. the servers are buckling under the load
[16:45] <bastid_raZor> are the ubuntu servers maxed out?
[16:45] <mooboo1> ubuntu servers are hammered, i leave torrent on even after i downloaded it
[16:45] <Myrtti> mooboo1: please do
[16:45] <coraline> it isn't like my windows
[16:45] <lalalala> .............................
[16:45] <Adlai> <3 rsync
[16:45] <Mighty^^> all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[16:45] <smithers> how can i get to my windows shares?
[16:45] <coraline> i never saw this on windows before
[16:45] <inter4ever> is the kubuntu hardy torrent the KDE 4 or KDE 3.5 version? or does it contain both?
[16:45] <qualidafial> mooboo1: I try to leave torrent on until my share ratio is at least 1.0
[16:45] <Mighty^^> MaCkeR: If I find them I will
[16:45] <doug2266778822> christopher_: i did but i did not see the resoluton  there.
[16:46] <mooboo1> coraline, Goto "Applications" in top-left corner, then you can choose category, and try out the different software, then you know what is what
[16:46] <lalalala> why use ubuntu when u have windows vista !!
[16:46] <dethstar> mphill, you mean that a lot of people are interested in hardy?
[16:46] <mphill> inter4ever: there are two version, KDE4 is the kubuntu remix version
[16:46] <christopher_> lalalala, watch your mouth
[16:46] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Thanks! I've Ubuntu DVD i386 torrent
[16:46] <lalalala> =D
[16:46] <mooboo1> qualidafial, i downloaded 699 mb, uploaded 3gb
[16:46] <ubuntuROX_> umm, you prefer to work on stuff other than removing spyware and viruses
[16:46] <christopher_> doug2266778822, the resolution wasn't available?
[16:46] <gord_slater> thats not the mouth she's talkin out of........
[16:46] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:46] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:46] <Koheleth> ubuntus website is letting the side down
[16:46] <bastid_raZor> MaCkeR; can i have the url for that.
[16:46] <doug2266778822> christopher_: no
[16:46] <qualidafial> mooboo1: then you have fatter pipes than me
[16:46] <christopher_> gord_slater, lmao
[16:47] <pisca> i have package themes from look-gnome.org, package name is ubuntu_sunrise_v1.2.tar.gz , how i can install it...???
[16:47] <grhluna> wheres the linux button??? :pPPp
[16:47] <mayakuza_> how can i get DC++?
[16:47] <MaCkeR> bastid_raZor, Sure. Get it from www.aamod.co.nr
[16:47] <christopher_> doug2266778822, what kind of video card do you have
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[16:47] <smithers> !samba
[16:47] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[16:47] <MaCkeR> bastid_raZor, its my blog
[16:47] <lalalala> guys why u use ubuntu??
[16:47] <drobvice> next to the any key
[16:47] <lalalala> can i ask
[16:47] <Mighty^^> mayakuza_: linuxdc++...  getdeb.net
[16:47] <Koheleth> why not
[16:47] <doug2266778822> christopher_: how do i find out?
[16:47] <Pici> lalalala: Please direct those sort of questions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:47] <rwycuff> lalalala: Because Ubuntu is simple ... and vista is a boggy POS that not even its own mother could love
[16:47] <elmargol> Someone knows how can I get the hex value of a key on my keyboard?
[16:47] <ubuntuROX_> lalala I just told you
[16:47] <yell0w> lalalala: control
[16:47] <Adlai> pisca: click install in system>preferences>appearance
[16:47] <lalalala> more stable than vista?
[16:47] <jamiejackson> it's free and good lalalala
[16:47] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Get the .torrent from www.aamod.co.nr
[16:47] <eternal_p> rwycuff: boggy eh
[16:47] <Pici> !offtopic | lalalala
[16:47] <ubotu> lalalala: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:47] <Adlai> elmargol: xev
[16:47] <christopher_> doug2266778822, lspci
[16:47] <mooboo1> qualidafial, yes, 100 mbit/s download, and 10 mbit/s upload
[16:47] <christopher_> doug2266778822, from terminal
[16:48] <joan> I'm having a problem with my new instalationof ubunt 8.04, in the login window the fonts of the text box are very very big.
[16:48] <mayakuza_> Mighty^ i dident understand that
[16:48] <elmargol> thx
[16:48] <rwycuff> lalalala: vista is not stable in any way so yes i would say more stable
[16:48] <joan> anyone have this problem?
[16:48] <christopher_> lalalala, why are you here if you are going to talk about vista.  there are channels for that.  if you curious about ubuntu thats fine.
[16:48] <kevin_> anyone knows were i can change (keyboard settings)
[16:48] <christopher_> kevin_, system/preferences
[16:49] <christopher_> kevin_, then choose keyboard
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[16:49] <manfromns> i'm upgrading from gutsy and it's hanging at "fetching 1101 of 1257" files
[16:49] <doug2266778822> christopher_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64246/
[16:49] <philipp__> Is the torrent tracker down?
[16:49] <ubuntuROX_> lalala go to the off topic channel I will talk to you
[16:49] <rwycuff> kevin_:do "man Xorg" that will be start to how to config KB
[16:49] <DevLilJohn> anyone know what the desktop x86 hardy torrent is?
[16:49] <kevin_> thx christoff
[16:49] <christopher_> doug2266778822, let me take a look
[16:49] <Mighty^^> MaCkeR: thx.
[16:49] <qualidafial> philipp__: occasionally, just leave it running and eventually you'll get into the swarm
[16:49] <rwycuff> joan: thats pry due to the resolution you have setup
[16:49] <christopher_> kevin_, np.. please put the persons nick in front of a reponse
[16:49] <doug2266778822> christopher_: thank you
[16:49] <manfromns> k thx
[16:49] <zachb> coraline: yes
[16:49] <philipp__> ah, ok. I am able to share my 100 Mbit bandwith,;-)
[16:49] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Welcome
[16:50] <dajhorn> DevLilJohn: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[16:50] <christopher_> doug2266778822, have you downloaded the nvidia drivers
[16:50] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, I think you'll add it
[16:50] <Mighty^^> I did
[16:50] <mayakuza_> i diden't understand how to gett DC++
[16:50] <Mighty^^> all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[16:50] <mohbana> what the hell is up with the server? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[16:50] <doug2266778822> christopher_: yes but not sure for what one i need,
[16:50] <dajhorn> DevLilJohn: The server is very busy, so it may ignore you.  Try the mirrors.
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[16:50] <christopher_> doug2266778822, let me look
[16:50] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, I think i'm getting amd torrent too
[16:50] <Mighty^^> ok
[16:50] <Adlai> mohbana: it's getting the crap beaten out of it
[16:50] <DevLilJohn> dajhorn thanks
[16:51] <pisca> Adlai, when i click install in theme tab - appearance, error.. : the file format is invalid. What can i do?
[16:51] <Adlai> pisca: use a theme that isn't broken?
[16:51] <philipp__> ah, ok. It works - Torrent is up ;-)
[16:51] <philipp__> Thanks
[16:51] <christopher_> doug2266778822, try the one that says 'new one'
[16:51] <pisca> Adlai, i don't know..
[16:51] <christopher_> doug2266778822, hang on
[16:51] <doug2266778822> christopher_: in the link i sent u?
[16:51] <Koheleth> !mp3
[16:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[16:51] <bogus-> np: Schandmaul - Blechpfeiferl [stopped]
[16:52] <Boredcollegekid> iTunes 7.6.2.9 stopped
[16:52] <christopher_> doug2266778822, go to applications and select add/remove software
[16:52] <christopher_> doug2266778822, in the search box type nvidia
[16:52] <lalalala> any difference between x32 and x64 on ubuntu???
[16:52] <Scunizi> How do I start a kde session in a different TTY while running gnome in tty7(normal spot)
[16:52] <christopher_> doug2266778822, select NVidia binary X.Org driver ('new' driver)
[16:52] <christopher_> doug2266778822, and then select Hardware Drivers
[16:52] <Koheleth> lalalala: google earth is a problem with 64bit
[16:52] <dajhorn> lalalala: The software packages are the same.
[16:53] <Scunizi> lalalala: yes.. if you've never used ubuntu or linux get 32bit.. most programs are written for it anyway
[16:53] <doug2266778822> christopher_: it is installed
[16:53] <Mighty^^> now ALL .torrent are here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[16:53] <Koheleth> for me anyway
[16:53] <christopher_> doug2266778822, both of them are installed
[16:53] <lalalala> im using vista x64!
[16:53] <GeoAir> Hi, can someone pointme to the dvd torrents?Thanks
[16:53] <Amaranth> Scunizi: gdmflexiserver
[16:53] <Adlai> pisca: you can try opening it in file-roller, but it's probably best to just give up on that theme, or read its download page for instructions
[16:53] <doug2266778822> christopher_: not the hardware one but the nivida was
[16:53] <Amaranth> Scunizi: then on the login choose the KDE session
[16:53] <christopher_> doug2266778822, install the hardware one
[16:53] <Scunizi> lalalala: yes.. but are you using 64 or 32 bit programs.
[16:53] <doug2266778822> christopher_: i am now will this fix it?
[16:54] <Scunizi> Amaranth: don't you need to log in as a different user with that?
[16:54] <lalalala> i dont really care programs... how abt the performance???
[16:54] <lalalala> on ubuntu
[16:54] <christopher_> doug2266778822, i hope so, we will see.  reboot when you install it
[16:54] <pisca> Adlai, Ok..
[16:54] <christopher_> doug2266778822, then come back and let me know - there may be one more step
[16:54] <dajhorn> lalalala: Substantially similar.
[16:54] <joan> I'm having a problem with my new instalation of ubuntu 8.04, in the login window the fonts of the text box are enormously big. anyone have the same problem or a solution?
[16:54] <MilitantPotat1> GeoAir: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/8.04/
[16:54] <Adlai> lalalala: honestly, you won't notice much difference
[16:55] <Amaranth> Scunizi: You do
[16:55] <doug2266778822> christopher_: if the last step dont work? it was at that res before a real low one.
[16:55] <GeoAir> MilitantPotat1: Thanks
[16:55] <Scunizi> Amaranth: I'd like to log in as the same user using the same /home but with different desktops
[16:55] <christopher_> doug2266778822, you have already rebooted?
[16:56] <smithers> why is it still so hard to do the simpliest things on linux?
[16:56] <tech0007> is it officially out?
[16:56] <Koheleth> can anyone get through to the restricted formats url https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[16:56] <zachb> Has anyone gotten the upgrade from cd working?
[16:56] <jamessfoster> tech0007, yes.
[16:56] <Amaranth> Scunizi: You can't do that
[16:56] <doug2266778822> christopher_: no its still installing.
[16:56] <zachb> tech0007: yes
[16:56] <bazhang> smithers: such as?
[16:56] <yell0w> tech0007: yes
[16:56] <dajhorn> joan: Restart the computer, choose recovery mode, and tell it to recreate your X11 configuration.
[16:56] <christopher_> doug2266778822, ok.. let me know
[16:56] <smithers> mount a network share?
[16:56] <Koheleth> I'm there at last
[16:56] <leonbrussels> smithers: go in nautilus, connect to server
[16:56] <smithers> u figure u should be able to do this out of the box
[16:56] <Kinetic> smithers smb share?
[16:57] <smithers> smb fails
[16:57] <smithers> Kinetic yes
[16:57] <marwell> Are there any real benefits, jet, choosing 64bit vs. 32bit-x86 version of ubuntu? Is flash-plugin available in 64bit btw?
[16:57] <lalalala> i only use ubuntu for the compiz fusion effects tbh =D
[16:57] <dajhorn> joan: You must push ESC at the GRUB prompt to get the menu.
[16:57] <christopher_> smithers, well considering that drivers are all made by individuals who work for free not the hardware companies thats hard to do
[16:57] <doug2266778822> christopher_:  i am rebooting now brb
[16:57] <Kinetic> smithers smbmount
[16:57] <lalalala> i only use ubuntu for the compiz fusion effects tbh =D
[16:57] <dajhorn> marwell: Use 32-bit unless you have more than 4 GB of memory in the computer.
[16:57] <Scunizi> Amaranth: Back in Dapper days someone had mentioned doing it on a different tty but said that you had to have different desktops to prevent file issues.. wish I had made notes
[16:57] <oddalot> 64 bit seems like it would just cause troubles
[16:57] <tech0007> did anyone get any updates ?
[16:57] <leonbrussels> smithers: connect to server in nautilus doesn't work?
[16:57] <Kcaj> What does it mans
[16:58] <Kcaj> when sudo is unable to resolve host?
[16:58] <doug2266778822> christopher_: nope
[16:58] <smithers> leon: no it fails
[16:58] <leonbrussels> damn
[16:58] <christopher_> doug2266778822, boy your computer boots fast.
[16:58] <ChamPro> quick question... off of http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ , which is the right DVD image to download for Hardy (that has both desktop and server)?
[16:58] <christopher_> doug2266778822, did you reboot or restartx
[16:58] <Kinetic> leonbrussels i think hes referring to mounting to any spot in the filesystem
[16:58] <leonbrussels> smithers: with what error?
[16:58] <mohbana> god damn thing is so slow
[16:58] <daemon3> How long does the 8.04 update take?
[16:58] <ikonia> christopher_: do you want the desktop or server version ?
[16:58] <daemon3> Anybody updated yet?'
[16:58] <lalalala> i only use ubuntu for the compiz fusion effects tbh =D
[16:58] <ikonia> daemon3: depends on how fast your connection, which mirror and what needs updating
[16:58] <doug2266778822> christopher_: restarted x
[16:58] <Openuser> do someone have tried hardy?
[16:58] <ikonia> lalalala: ubuntu is not the only distro with compiz
[16:58] <ikonia> Openuser: many people
[16:58] <daemon3> It's a pretty fast connection.
[16:58] <bazhang> doug2266778822: need a full reboot
[16:58] <christopher_> doug2266778822, please reboot and type noapic before selecting from grub
[16:58] <Kcaj> My operations are not permitted and sudo says unable to resolve host
[16:59] <smithers> location is already mounted which it is not
[16:59] <leonbrussels> daemon3: via update-manager about 1 hour
[16:59] <Kcaj> :(
[16:59] <Kcaj> what to do?
[16:59] <Pici> !hostname | Kcaj
[16:59] <ubotu> Kcaj: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[16:59] <leonbrussels> but I updated before it was officially released
[16:59] <Openuser> ikonia: and what about it? it's great?
[16:59] <ikonia> Kcaj: you'll need to ad your hostname in /etc/hosts if your dns is not working
[16:59] <christopher_> bazhang, thank you.. i thought i clarifyed that
[16:59] <leonbrussels> so probably longer now
[16:59] <Kinetic> smithers where are you trying to mount it to?
[16:59] <erUSUL> Kcaj: check /etc/hosts
[16:59] <Ethan> hey, is there a way to install 8.04 from the iso without burning it? (I am under a  6.06 with a broken apt)
[16:59] <ikonia> Openuser: try it
[16:59] <stev> hai
[16:59] <stev> i need help
[16:59] <ikonia> Ethan: not very easy
[16:59] <Kcaj> I'm using a terminal
[16:59] <Kcaj> ON THE MACHINE
[16:59]  * Scrounch_ is now away: off
[16:59] <smithers> like i used to a shortcut on the desktop
[16:59] <stev> i want to ask something]
[16:59] <ikonia> Kcaj: do'nt need to use caps
[16:59] <Kcaj> it can't resolve myname-desktop
[16:59] <stev> anyone wants to help
[16:59] <stev> ....???
[16:59] <Koheleth> !ask
[16:59] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:59] <dajhorn> Kcaj: See also this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/32906
[16:59] <leonbrussels> Ethan: You can mount the iso and make a live-usb stick
[16:59] <ikonia> Kcaj: put it in /etc/hosts
[16:59] <tech0007> i didnt get any updates since 22nd i think, so does that mean i have the official 8.04 already?
[17:00] <eternal_p> Ethan: backup everything, install a clean 8.04 but create a seperate partition for /home, that way, if it happens again, you can reload, and just don't format the /home partition
[17:00] <eternal_p> tech0007: I believe so
[17:00] <stev> how can I install KDE on ubuntu
[17:00] <stev> ..??
[17:00] <MilitantPotat1> daemon3: 1 hour + download time, D/L for me was around 4 hours at 50kb/s, I'm getting a torrent of the alternate CD, shaving about 3.5 hours off
[17:00] <eternal_p> stev: download kubuntu is the easiest way
[17:00] <tlsarles> I'm running the Hardy beta, and update manager isn't showing an upgrade available. Is it just me, or is the repo not updated yet?
[17:00] <ikonia> stev: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[17:00] <tech0007> eternal_p: i update everyday...did you get any updates today?
[17:00] <Pici> stev: install the kubuntu-desktop package in your favorite package manger
[17:00] <ikonia> tlsarles: you may not need any updates
[17:00] <eternal_p> tech0007: nope
[17:00] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[17:00] <ikonia> pawan: it's out
[17:00] <tech0007> eternal_p: ok, thanks for the info
[17:00] <MrKeuner> hi, can I upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the CD
[17:01] <rinaldi_> eternal_p: is there an option to create a seperate home directory on the live cd or do you have to do it manually?
[17:01] <oddalot> what is the difference between the normal and alternate cd?
[17:01] <Sersi> Same here tlsarles, i kept my install up to date so i guess its ok
[17:01] <christopher_> stev, in your add and remove type kde in the search
[17:01] <ikonia> MrKeuner: poit the repo at the cdrom and use the dist-upgrade option
[17:01] <christopher_> stev, kde4 is available
[17:01] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, I got AMD64 torrent and posted on my blog!
[17:01] <tlsarles> gotcha. No major changes in the last couple days then?
[17:01] <dajhorn> MrKeuner: Yes, just insert the disc and the upgrade should automatically start.
[17:01] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Oh! It seems you got it already..
[17:01] <killemall> are there official links to the torrents for the new ubuntu, i cant find them at ubuntu.com
[17:01] <Koheleth> stev: http://www.kubuntu.org/
[17:01] <marwell> dajhorn: Ok.. Not a lot of benefits using 64bit? Comparing performance? (I have 2GB)
[17:01] <leonbrussels> Ethan: If you really need that, I could walk you through it
[17:01] <eternal_p> rinaldi_: manually
[17:01] <killemall> nvm
[17:02] <MaCkeR> killemall, Official site is overloaded
[17:02] <killemall> i just read the topic :p
[17:02] <oddalot> marwell, maybe, but in my experience, there are tons of software problems
[17:02] <christopher_> stev, did you see what i typed?
[17:02] <dajhorn> marwell: Yes, and the stuff that actually needs the 64-bit goodies, like Xen and VMware, know how to get at it.
[17:02] <shane2peru> ahh, I made an iso for the 64bit server edition with jigdo, and tried to seed it via transmission, and it started downloading a new file, how can I seed it?
[17:02] <doug2266778822> christopher_: thank you so very much...... =D
[17:02] <Ethan> eternal_p: I am backing up indeed but I don't have a cd ... Upgrading from a clean 6.06 does create the same 'thing' as installing from a cd ?
[17:02] <Mighty^^> http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:02] <christopher_> doug2266778822, so i guess it worked?
[17:02] <MaCkeR> killemall, I've uploaded torrents on my blog www.aamod.co.nr and also available on http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:02] <pawan> how to upgrade
[17:02] <ikonia> shane2peru: you don't need to make iso's they are available officially form ubuntu
[17:02] <orbin> oddalot: desktop is the live cd & graphical installer, alternate has the text based installer
[17:02] <doug2266778822> christopher_: yes now to get compiz to work and auto load
[17:03] <oddalot> thanks orbin
[17:03] <eternal_p> Ethan: I don't get what you mean...a clean install is ALWAYS better than an upgrade
[17:03] <marwell> oddalot, dajhorn: Ok. Thanks!
[17:03] <orbin> np
[17:03] <Bert_2> hi, how can I check which firewalls I have on my linux system and how can I open certain ports in it ?
[17:03] <CVirus> congratulations everybody
[17:03] <genii> eternal_p: I guess it depends on how many custom conf files or startup scripts you have
[17:03] <shane2peru> ikonia, I know, but I have the server Release Candidate, and updated that via jigdo to come up with the official release, and would like to seed, without having to download the 600+mb, that would take me most of the day to download.
[17:03] <killemall> thanks macker
[17:03] <christopher_> doug2266778822, that is an easy one, would u like some help :D
[17:03] <joan> it didn't worked
[17:04] <ikonia> shane2peru: don't see homemade iso's
[17:04] <rwycuff> !iptables | Bert_2
[17:04] <ubotu> Bert_2: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[17:04] <doug2266778822> christopher_: if you do not mind sure
[17:04] <Kev3124> when i try to upgrade via the update manager, the update screen becomes grey and unresponsive..any ideas?
[17:04] <MrKeuner> will there be difference between upgrade and reinstall?
[17:04] <Pusselgenerator> Ah, fresh install, lovely
[17:04] <shane2peru> ikonia, ??? what, do you know what jigdo does?  it makes the same image as on the server without downloading all the files, it only downloades the ones that have been upgraded.
[17:04] <leonbrussels> Ethan: with apt broken update probably won't work
[17:04] <christopher_> doug2266778822, right click ur desktop and choose change desktop background
[17:04] <Ethan> eternal_p: that's what I wanted you to say, so installing an old version to upgrade it afterwards is not as good
[17:04] <killemall> isnt this EXACTLY what torents are for? big releases
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[17:05] <eternal_p> Ethan: definetly not, seems a waste of time
[17:05] <ikonia> shane2peru: I appriciate what it does, I'd just rather have sources officaily package from ubuntu
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[17:05] <christopher_> doug2266778822, select visual effects and then choose the option for visual effects.
[17:05] <joan> I still see very big fonts on the login window.
[17:05] <eternal_p> genii: I agree, that is why I try and keep everything in my /home and do symbolic links when required
[17:05] <ikonia> shane2peru: accidents/mistakes happen
[17:05] <christopher_> doug2266778822, it should install the necessary requirements for compiz
[17:05] <trekdanne> what's the recommened minimum size for a wubi installation?
[17:05] <shane2peru> ikonia, I had the release candidate, and then ran jigdo-lite as per the ubuntu wiki, and now have the server 64bit iso.
[17:05] <eternal_p> I even bring over my .wine folder  so I can be really, really lazy :)
[17:05] <leonbrussels> Ethan: is the computer reasonably new so it supports usb booting?
[17:05] <christopher_> doug2266778822, then there is one more step
[17:05] <doug2266778822> christopher_: thank you if u do not mind one more?
[17:05] <christopher_> doug2266778822, hehe ok
[17:05] <ikonia> shane2peru: I understand that
[17:05] <El1> Hi guys, when trying to upgrade from 8.04 beta to the final release I get the error 'current dist not found in meta-release file' when running the update manager from the terminal, does anyone know how I can solve thsi?
[17:06] <shane2peru> ikonia, well, it checks all the md5sums of every package in my cd, and then downloads the non-matching
[17:06] <eternal_p> Ethan: or go to Best Buy and "rent" a USB CD-ROM ;)
[17:06] <doug2266778822> christopher_: urs first lol but i cant get the zelda mouse theme to work. from gnome look.
[17:06] <ikonia> shane2peru: if the md5's match, thats a pretty solid response
[17:06] <eternal_p> Eli: make sure you don't have CDROM repository's turned on
[17:06] <eternal_p> Eli: in software sources
[17:06] <shane2peru> ikonia, I don't see how that could mess up any worse than downloading the iso
[17:06] <leonbrussels> eternal_p: Why not use USB?
[17:06] <El1> in sources.list?
[17:06] <christopher_> doug2266778822, where did you get the zelda theme?
[17:06] <NeoGeo64> lol bittorrent is a lifesaver
[17:06] <Kev3124> when i try to upgrade to 8.04 via the update manager, the update screen becomes grey and unresponsive..any ideas?
[17:06] <mayakuza_> how do i get DC++ ned detaild help
[17:06] <doug2266778822> christopher_:  off gnome look
[17:06] <erUSUL> El1: patience; all ubuntu servers are loaded today people should be patient and wait a day or two for the dust to sttle down
[17:06] <NeoGeo64> all the ftp servers are down, but torretns are flying
[17:06] <Ethan> leonbrussels: it might be, but from what I have read I may need to format my usb drive
[17:06] <susanoo> So guys , is the 8.04 out ?
[17:06] <shane2peru> ikonia, I will check the md5sum too, but I just wanted to seed, to help the ubuntu community
[17:06] <Koheleth> El1:  try the update manager in the admin menu
[17:06] <eternal_p> Eli: system->administration-> software sources
[17:06] <ikonia> shane2peru: npe, I agree with that
[17:06] <christopher_> doug2266778822, did it install correctly?
[17:07] <ikonia> shane2peru: if the md5's match up, must be spot on
[17:07] <El1> that's the one that gave me the error koh
[17:07] <doug2266778822> christopher_: i could not get it to install
[17:07] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, now torrent list seems somewhat complete!
[17:07] <eternal_p> leonbrussels: assuming he has a 1 one gig memory card and a MB that can boot it, for sure
[17:07] <MrKeuner> is there faq on upgrade versus reinstall?
[17:07] <shane2peru> ikonia, sooo, how then would I get it to seed?
[17:07] <leonbrussels> Ethan: nope, if its 700mb big and formated fat32 thats fine
[17:07] <christopher_> doug2266778822, give me the link to the mouse theme and i'll give it a shot
[17:07] <eternal_p> Eli: I bet if you look in there, it says Install from CD/DVD Rom checked
[17:07] <Ademan> hrm, hardy is out, that must be why the repos have slowed to a crawl lol
[17:07] <El1> erUSUL: I don't think my error is due to servers being overloaded?
[17:07] <ikonia> shane2peru: you need to create a seed file using your client of choice
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[17:07] <kristian42> The desktop fails to start on my a64. IT failed with one of the last updates this week. Anyone have any tips ?
[17:08] <orbin> susanoo: yep.  see topic
[17:08] <doug2266778822> christopher_: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/zelda-cursors?content=50663
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[17:08] <Tomcat_> !restrictedformats
[17:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[17:08] <shane2peru> ikonia, right, I guess that is my question, I don't know how, I'm using transmission (the default hardy torrent client)
[17:08] <Ethan> leonbrussels: but I can't put the iso file like that and hope that it will work, can I? (About the formatting, I need to check it)
[17:08] <leonbrussels> kristian42: tried to boot to recovery console?
[17:08] <Tomcat_> I need basic help on DVD playback in totem-xine.
[17:08] <Mighty^^> MaCkeR: almost.. one missing
[17:08] <ubuntuROX_> El1, I have the same issue, install from cd is not checked
[17:08] <orizon> ubuntu is the best, just wanted to say thanks!
[17:08] <mayakuza_> how do i get DC++? need detaild help
[17:08] <ikonia> shane2peru: I'm not massive on torrents, let me see if I can find anything
[17:08] <qualidafial> Does it seem to anyone else that Hardy Heron fails the playground name-calling test?  My wife and I are trying to name our soon to be born son and this code name truly baffles me
[17:08] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Which?
[17:08] <killemall> thisis the biggest torrent ive ever been part of, 3000 seeds and 550 users, lol
[17:08] <Mighty^^> kubuntu kde4 amd64
[17:08] <killemall> awesome!
[17:08] <Cameron> geez the ubuntu servers are slow
[17:08] <christopher_> doug2266778822, brb
[17:08] <kristian42> leonbrussels: How do I do that ?
[17:08] <shane2peru> ikonia, ok, thanks,
[17:08] <killemall> 550
[17:09] <killemall> 5500 hehe
[17:09] <Mighty^^> http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:09] <MrKeuner> is reinstall recommended over upgrade?
[17:09] <shane2peru> does anyone else know right off hand on getting a torrent to seed?
[17:09] <MaCkeR> ubuntu servers are dead slow!
[17:09] <jamessfoster> Cameron: Thousands of people are accessing them all at the same time. Of course they're slow!
[17:09] <rsk> MrKeuner: not generally, but in some cases.
[17:09] <Kcaj> This is crap
[17:09] <Kcaj> I can't open any files on my system
[17:09] <ipx> I installed ubuntu 8.04 from a format but i have /home on another partition, so some old settings from gnome was there. Can I somehow remove those folders and get back to default gnome settings?
[17:09] <christopher_> doug2266778822, i don't like the sword it's too big.. but it works on my end, let me tell ya how
[17:09] <Kcaj> Not even folder, programs, nothing
[17:09] <MrKeuner> rsk: what kind of cases?
[17:09] <ipx> Got some mouse problems that seems related to gnome
[17:09] <Kcaj> They all start to load, and then don't do anything
[17:09] <leonbrussels> kristian: If you get your grub menu where you have the differen boot options, select recovery (should be the second) and press enter :)
[17:09] <ikonia> shane2peru: http://www.torrentreactor.net/guide/how_make_seed_torrent_files.php
[17:10] <yao_ziyuan> how do you determine in dolphin or nautilus that a file is really a media file but not an executable file? this is a security concern when playing movies ...
[17:10] <rsk> MrKeuner: if an upgrade fails. =)
[17:10] <Kcaj> No crash reports now, just, nothing working, at all
[17:10] <leonbrussels> Etan: lets got to private chat
[17:10] <christopher_> doug2266778822, do you still have the theme archive saved on ur computer
[17:10] <rickest> I had to use envy to get ubuntu to recognize my nVidia 8800GT. I know I have to uninstall envy before upgrading to Hardy, my question is if envy will still be necessary after the upgrade?
[17:10] <yao_ziyuan> in windows i just check the file extension
[17:10] <Kcaj> I can't even open a terminal
[17:10] <qualidafial> yao_ziyuan: your movie files should be chmod a-x
[17:10] <ikonia> rickest: you don't have to use envy
[17:10] <Kcaj> My entire system has become UNUSABLE
[17:10] <shane2peru> ikonia, ahh, that site is blocked by opendns, hmm, I will try and figure it out with transmission
[17:10] <koro> when using the file browser, is there a way to have a "up in tree" option like there is in the windows file explorer? (one that sends you to /foo/bar if you are in /foo/bar/dir)?
[17:10] <ikonia> !envy | rickest
[17:10] <ubotu> rickest: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:10] <MrKeuner> rsk: if it does not fail can I conclude that reinstall and upgrade would produce exactly the same output?
[17:10] <Kcaj> I have a brick in front of me now :O wtf
[17:10] <ikonia> rickest: you've pretty much made you system unsupportable
[17:10] <yao_ziyuan> qualidafial: but how do i see it from nautilus or dolphin?
[17:11] <doug2266778822> christopher_: yes on desktop and mind if we go to a dif room this one to flooded for me say room #wwed ?
[17:11] <chazco> Hi... anyone know if mediabuntu is up for 8.04? (checking before i try to update)
[17:11] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Whatz missing from list?
[17:11] <ikonia> Kcaj: phrases like WTF are not needed or welcome here
[17:11] <ikonia> chazco: it is
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, We understand your frustration but please tone it down and stop ranting
[17:11] <koro> The default "up" button in the gnome explorer has a different behavior (it sends you up in the relative path, not absolute)
[17:11] <chazco> Ah, thanks ikonia :)
[17:11] <rickest> ikonia: are you saying the 8800GT is supported in the repositories now?
[17:11] <bazhang> rickest: you on hardy?
[17:11] <ikonia> rickest: the current hardy drivers should pick it up I believe
[17:11] <qualidafial> yao_ziyuan: right-click and select properties, look for file permissions.  None of the "executable" permissions to be turned on
[17:11] <UBUNTUJAY123> ubuntu site is slow today
[17:11] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Gobuntu!
[17:11] <rickest> bazhang: not yet
[17:11] <inkynoob> what are the bt download speeds like right now?
[17:11] <ikonia> UBUNTUJAY123: lots using it
[17:11] <Kcaj> Okay, instead of lecturing me, why not offer some type of support? I've never had ANY operating system do anything like this before.
[17:11] <mayakuza_> how do i get DC++? need detaild help
[17:11] <ttsmj> shit ubuntu 8.04 final sux, u call it LTS??? it won't boot to X on this laptop, video card is sis and when I try to poweroff I get a shitload of output
[17:11] <UBUNTUJAY123> i know the upgrade
[17:12] <ikonia> Kcaj: drop tha attitude
[17:12] <Kcaj> No terminal... nothing will open... not at all.
[17:12] <qualidafial> inkynoob: awesome once you get connected--that part can take a little while
[17:12] <lalalala> Woohoo!!!!
[17:12] <killemall> im gettin 125d/20u right now
[17:12] <bazhang> language ttsmj
[17:12]  * ttsmj is dissapointed
[17:12] <killemall> 200d now heh
[17:12] <genii> inkynoob: I'm getting about 500Kb/s (in Canada)
[17:12] <eckhard> nein
[17:12] <shane2peru> ha ha, ikonia I'm about slow, under torrent there was an option for new torrent.
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, help yourself and us by forming a complete question on one line about your problem.
[17:12] <ipx> ttsmj: good point.. it doesnt work for you == it sucks? It works FINE here, so i'd say it rules. :)
[17:12] <eckhard> help
[17:12] <Pitel> Is there a packege with "old" firefox 2.0 in hardy?
[17:12] <inkynoob> good :-)  thanks
[17:12] <ikonia> shane2peru: good find.
[17:12] <Kcaj> Okay
[17:12] <karllenz1> is there a way to control fan speed
[17:13] <ikonia> karllenz1: apm can on some systems
[17:13] <shane2peru> ikonia, what would I put for the Announce URL?
[17:13] <ttsmj> ipx: yes but... previous versions were better here
[17:13] <Pici> Pitel: firefox-2 package
[17:13] <rwycuff> ttsmj:welcome to linux these things happen
[17:13] <Kcaj> NOTHING on my system will open at all. No terminal, no program, nothing. I can't even open a folder. It starts to open, then disappears (from the bottom area). No crash report or anything.
[17:13] <ikonia> shane2peru: no idea, I think it's where you host the seed file
[17:13] <rickest> ikonia: made my system 'unsupportable'?  FUD
[17:13] <karllenz1> whats apm?
[17:13] <ikonia> rickest: using envy
[17:13] <djaiss> hey guys what's?
[17:13] <ikonia> karllenz1: power managment daemon
[17:13] <Kcaj> I can't even open a system log. I'm at the point where I just want to reboot and pray it fixes my problem. Either way, at that point, I'll probably just switch to a different OS because this is entirely unacceptable.
[17:13] <bazhang> rickest its supproted in hardy though
[17:14] <rickest> ikonia: fud
[17:14] <rickest> bazhang: cool, thanks
[17:14] <koro> is there a way to modify the "up" button in nautilus so that it directs to the previous directory in the absolute path rather than relative?
[17:14] <ikonia> rickest: fud ?
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, is this an upgrade or fresh install.
[17:14] <yao_ziyuan> if an executable file has the extension ".rmvb" and the "movie" icon....
[17:14] <bazhang> rickest please be polite
[17:14] <Kcaj> Brand new
[17:14] <rickest> bazhang: indeed
[17:14] <ttsmj> I wish myself more luck on another nvidia based laptop
[17:14] <yao_ziyuan> i would not instantly find out if it's a real rmvb or a virus right?
[17:14] <ikonia> rickest: I've just told you envy is not supported but the card works in hardy
[17:14] <ikonia> rickest: and your response to that is "FUD"
[17:14] <kristian42> leonbrussels: I tried restoring X. Same as before. I get to logon and it seems to stop a few seconds afterwards
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, how much room did you allow on the hard drive
[17:14] <Kcaj> I installed yesterday, really barely added anything at all, and always used synaptics
[17:14] <Kcaj> 320GB
[17:15] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk hardy | rickest
[17:15] <ubotu> rickest: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[17:15] <ikonia> Kcaj: is this a re-occuring fault
[17:15] <Kcaj> It wont go away so umm, I guess?
[17:15]  * christopher_ needs a cigarette brb
[17:15] <rickest> ikonia: and I thanked you. just saying 'made my system unsupportable' is a little over the top.  everything's fine
[17:15] <yao_ziyuan> i consider this a serious security vulernability
[17:15] <Phoop> Kcaj:  Did you tried rebooting?
[17:15] <MrKeuner> if upgrade does not fail can I conclude that reinstall and upgrade would produce exactly the same output?
[17:15] <ikonia> rickest: no- it does make your system unsupportable, as the factoid suggested
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, what all did you install
[17:15] <leonbrussels> kristian42: so it crashes before X. Do you have a nvidia card by any chance?
[17:15] <pisca> thx all
[17:15] <ikonia> rickest: your system isn't fine or you wouldn't be in here asking for help
[17:15] <Kcaj> Phoop: If I do, and that fixes it, and it returns, do you expect me to reboot every time this occurs? I'd rather fix this problem than side-step it.
[17:15] <Phoop> sigh
[17:15] <Kcaj> Jack_Sparrow: MySQL, PHP, lots of related stuff, Apache 2, Samba, Samba GUI, Mac OS X theme
[17:16] <bazhang> ikonia envyng is in the hardy repos though
[17:16] <rickest> ikonia: please stop blowing it out of proportion. my system is fine, I was just asking about the upgrade path
[17:16] <Kcaj> athat is about it really, i mean I installed a few other packages here and there, some python stuff, nothing major or obscure.
[17:16] <El1> I'm getting this error 'current dist not found in meta-release file' when upgrading. I don't have CDROM repositories checked in software listed, does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
[17:16] <ikonia> bazhang: the envy tool as far as I'm aware is still unsupported
[17:16] <Lior1> Hello , i have Ubuntu Gutsy gibbon 7.10 and i clicked on the "Upgrade" button 2 hours ago its was on 50% and then i had a powerfailure and everything got shutdown now i opened up ubuntu back but what would i do now ? i want 8.04
[17:16] <ikonia> bazhang: same as ndis
[17:16] <rinaldi_> I am going to do a fresh install. How do I create a seperate partition for the /home directory? Also how big do you recommend? I have 200gb
[17:16] <Arelis> Okay, I am inside Hardy now. What has changed since Gutsy?
[17:16] <Phoop> El1:  Servers are pretty unreachable atm :) Thata the problam
[17:16] <Kcaj> Anyway
[17:16] <LordAnubis> hi there, i need help guys
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Kcaj, so that is more that a little stuff ... reboot..
[17:16] <ikonia> rickest: I'm not I'm just advising you of that
[17:16] <Kcaj> I'll be back in a bit, lunch :x hope to get this fixed asap
[17:17] <ubuntuROX_> I think the only way to solve it is to download the cd, put the check mark there then do an update..
[17:17] <ikonia> rickest: if your happy without community support, it's not an issue
[17:17] <Kcaj> Okay I'll reboot and tell you how it goes
[17:17] <LordAnubis> i am trying to run a perl script, but i am getting error messages on my Ubuntu machine.
[17:17] <ubuntuROX_> at least, thats what Im trying right now EL1
[17:17] <ikonia> LordAnubis: what's the error ?
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[17:17] <maw> I just setup dual display with fglrx drivers, my issues is dragging windows screen to screen is laggy, it takes time to redraw the window, anyone know what is wrong?
[17:17] <bastid_raZor> MaCkeR; thanks ..
[17:17] <LordAnubis> The error message is regarding WagnerFischer, which is required for my script to run. ikonia
[17:17] <El1> I think best is to just wait till the servers are reachable ubuntROX
[17:17] <ikonia> LordAnubis: what is the error though
[17:17] <MaCkeR> bastid_raZor, welcome
[17:18] <ubuntuROX_> Well, that might work too
[17:18] <LordAnubis> ikonia: sent to u by PM
[17:18] <ikonia> LordAnubis: I don't want pm's thanks
[17:18] <LordAnubis> ok
[17:18] <yao_ziyuan> i also observed that all linux executables have the "gears" icon in dolphin (they can't have their own icons?), so it's impossible for an executable to fake as a movie file, right?
[17:18] <LordAnubis> $ perl csb3.pl
[17:18] <LordAnubis> Can't locate Text/Align/WagnerFischer.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at csb3.pl line 12.
[17:18] <LordAnubis> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at csb3.pl line 12.
[17:18] <FloodBot1> LordAnubis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <grhluna> @ubuntu:~$ echo i love you
[17:18] <grhluna> i love you
[17:18] <ubuntuROX_> however, yesterday, I noticed it did not update at all, and I wonder if they shut the beta out or something.
[17:18] <LordAnubis> ikonia: its says: Can't locate Text/Align/WagnerFischer
[17:18] <ikonia> LordAnubis: your issue is that it's looing for perl includes in paths that don't exist
[17:18] <ikonia> LordAnubis: looks like your missing some modules needed
[17:18] <LordAnubis> so how do i fix it
[17:19] <tech0007> my grub still says  Ubuntu hardy (development branch), kernel 2.6.24-16-generic....is that right?
[17:19] <El1> probably, since the release came out today, anyway nothing to do now but wait...
[17:19] <ikonia> LordAnubis: look for the package that contains WangerFishcer.pm
[17:19] <MrKeuner> anybody not happy with using upgrade versus reinstall
[17:19] <LordAnubis> anyway i can get the whole package+necessary mods (svn or something)
[17:19] <LordAnubis> aha cool
[17:19] <linux__alien> Hi anyone running 8.04 on laptop ?
[17:19] <ubuntuROX_> Thats what mine says too Tech007, I do not think there is a fix yet.
[17:19] <ikonia> MrKeuner: my personal preference is a clean install if possible
[17:19] <eternal_p> tech0007: I don't know if the development branch will ever go away even if you are running 8.04 full, but that is the right kernel
[17:19] <Yoni> hmmm
[17:19] <ikonia> MrKeuner: more so when moving from non-lts to lts
[17:19] <Malic> are the servers down?
[17:19] <Yoni> I just finished to install ubuntu 8.04
[17:19] <Yoni> final...
[17:19]  * Flare183 is here
[17:19] <ikonia> Malic: they are responding slow
[17:19] <LordAnubis> ikonia: where can i look for that
[17:19] <jtravnick> somebody asked a while ago this question and i havnt seen an answer Will a fresh install and an upgrade produce the same hardy or will there be diferences?
[17:19] <ikonia> LordAnubis: I don't know
[17:19] <matthew__> server is burning
[17:19] <kristian42> Is the torrent tracker down too ?
[17:19] <LordAnubis> ikonia: i am very new to ubuntu
[17:19] <ikonia> LordAnubis: I don't support that package
[17:19] <El1> They can't be down Malic, since they're running ubuntu :P
[17:20] <linux__alien> does Intel ABG 3945 Wireless card work in 8.04 ?
[17:20] <tech0007> eternal_p: ok
[17:20] <linux__alien> is the bug solved?
[17:20] <LordAnubis> ikonia: do u know anyone who does?
[17:20] <ikonia> LordAnubis: no
[17:20] <linux__alien> cos 8.04 uses iwl3945 driver
[17:20] <bearblade> anyone who know how to install cadence
[17:20] <luke__> oh....
[17:20] <linux__alien> is it still broken ?
[17:20] <Yoni> & I saw on the live CD & live on my hard drive the volume is really low... anybody has the same "issue"?
[17:20] <LordAnubis> ikonia: thanks anyway mate
[17:20] <Jaymac> linux__alien: yes it does, but it now uses the freel iwl3945 driver
[17:20] <Flare183> !search hardy
[17:20] <kristian42> linux_alien: Does not work on my machine
[17:20] <ubotu> Found: awn, heron, ebox, hardy, shipit, khardy, queue, ubuntu+1, installhardy, torrents
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[17:20] <Adlai> jtravnick: same system
[17:20] <Flare183> !installhardy
[17:20] <ubotu> Every time you install hardy, Hobbsee pokes a kitten with the long pointy stick of doom!
[17:20] <linux__alien> Jaymac, Does the free driver work ?
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[17:20] <eternal_p> jtravnick: personally, I don not like upgraded OSs, that is just me, but apparently people have been upgrading ubuntu since 5 and have been happy, so ymmv
[17:20] <Flare183> !khardy
[17:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported
[17:20] <MrKeuner> ikonia: I am considering if there will be problem with new drivers if they fail to initialize since there are older versions
[17:20] <Malic> El1: oh you are right ^^
[17:20] <jtravnick> Adlai, thanks
[17:20] <Mighty^^> almost all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:20] <highvoltage> wow, this must be the busiest channel on the network
[17:20] <shane2peru> ikonia, md5sum did check out for the record, and I figured it out, just had to change my preferences to select folder, and then open the torrent, and verify local data, and started seeding. :)
[17:20] <eternal_p> jtravnick: that is why I always recommend doing a seperate /home partition, easy upgrades
[17:20] <bearblade> hello every
[17:21] <shane2peru> ikonia, thanks for the help.
[17:21] <ikonia> shane2peru: you helped your self
[17:21] <linux__alien> Jaymac, does iwl3945 work for Intel ABG 3945 cards?
[17:21] <DooMRunneR> hi
[17:21] <linux__alien> is anyone using it ??
[17:21] <doug2266778822> when i try to open deluge it hands at starting then wont open i do killall deluge i get this Starting DHT...
[17:21] <doug2266778822> No DHT file to resume
[17:21] <doug2266778822> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'asio::system_error'
[17:21] <doug2266778822>   what():  Address already in use
[17:21] <doug2266778822> Aborted
[17:21] <FloodBot1> doug2266778822: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <luke__> yes
[17:21] <doug2266778822>  then when i type kill deluge i get this killall deluge
[17:21] <eternal_p> linux__alien: running it now
[17:21] <Jaymac> linux__alien: yes it does, i have one on my laptoop
[17:21] <bazhang> linux__alien: aye; works well
[17:21] <jlund> Is the tracker down?
[17:21] <gopper> i have 2 pannels, one for the main menus (applications, places, system) and another for the started applications. Both are bottom-placed, but i want the applications-one to be above the other. Everytime i restart they are switched, any ideas?
[17:21] <highvoltage> hey pipedream :)
[17:21] <linux__alien> eternal_p, so the bug in hardy beta is solved?
[17:21] <shane2peru> jlund, tracker has been having problems all day
[17:21] <eternal_p> linux__alien: works fine...although if you want your WiFi led to work, download backports for a better version
[17:22] <pipedream> highvoltage: hye
[17:22] <jtravnick> eternal_p, comeing from fedora world i also usaly do fresh installs but figured id try an upgrade on the laptop just to see how it went
[17:22] <linux__alien> eternal_p, ok
[17:22] <shane2peru> jlund, up and down, up and down
[17:22] <eternal_p> linux__alien: what bug?
[17:22] <doug2266778822> sorry for the flood didnt know it would be that long.
[17:22] <bearblade> quit
[17:22] <linux__alien> eternal_p, so in the live CD itself it works i dont need to do anything extra to make it work in my dell Inspiron 1520 ?
[17:22] <eternal_p> linux_alien: if the live CD works, the OS will work too
[17:22] <eternal_p> that is the point of the live CD
[17:23] <DooMRunneR> i get a bunch of errors when i try to install hardy from the desktop and the alternate cd "user not known to the underlying authentication module", what does this mean?
[17:23] <tech0007> i remembered typing #ubuntu+1, am I on the right channel?
[17:23] <justinh> !topic
[17:23] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[17:23] <linux__alien> eternal_p, no what i meant was did you install any packages extra to make it work or it just recognized your Router ? coz the bug in Beta was if you uses WPA2 encryption it wouldnt work
[17:23] <JediMaster> haha, the ubuntu site is half dead under the load =)
[17:23] <ifree> hi, i did a network upgrade to hardy. But then my menu.lst is not updated due to i chosed retain local version.
[17:24] <mayakuza_> i have a sound problem. my sound just stoped. i have volum on and my speaker on but when i play a movie or music i don't hear ennything. what can i do?
[17:24] <ifree> is there anyway to fix it ? i can't boot to ubuntu now
[17:24] <JediMaster> anyhow, does anyone know how to get a full list of supported printers from CUPS?
[17:24] <eternal_p> linux_alien: I run WPA2, never needed any extra packages
[17:24] <highvoltage> JediMaster: more like, 90% dead :)
[17:24] <anon> is there any1 who uses the cx8800 module (for tvcards)? on 7.10 it causes constant high cpuload (ksoftirqd/0). can some1 confirm that this is fixed in 8.04?
[17:24] <linux__alien> eternal_p, great thanks then i am off to install Hardy . Did you upgrade it or did a clean install?
[17:24] <zachb> [ $[ $RANDOM % 3 ] == 1 ] && echo "Ubuntu loves you" || echo "Ubuntu wishes you were dead"
[17:24] <Aperculum> why isn't the torrent link on the main ubuntu site?
[17:24] <mooboo1> 5gb uploaded on torrent
[17:24] <karllenz> is there a command line way to upgrade to hardy?
[17:24] <eternal_p> linux__alien: I always prefer a clean install
[17:24] <mooboo1> Aperculum, i wonder too
[17:24] <MaCkeR> Bye everyone! Happy Ubuntuing!!!!!!!!
[17:24] <Aperculum> I've been searching for it all over
[17:24] <mooboo1> maybe they think torrents are scary
[17:24] <JediMaster> highvoltage: true, but it's a good sign that it's popuplar and had a lot of press exposure
[17:25] <Aperculum> until now
[17:25] <mooboo1> ya
[17:25] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Great idea of mirroring torrents
[17:25] <gopper> i have 2 pannels, one for the main menus (applications, places, system) and another for the started applications. Both are bottom-placed, but i want the applications-one to be above the other. Everytime i restart they are switched, any ideas?
[17:25] <mayakuza_> i have a sound problem. my sound just stoped. i have volum on and my speaker on but when i play a movie or music i don't hear ennything. what can i do?
[17:25] <MaCkeR> Mighty^^, Bye. Happy Ubuntuing to u too
[17:25] <captain_c> Will the daily jigdo iso update to the release version?
[17:25] <tech0007> how do i get started with ibex?
[17:25] <eternal_p> mayakuza: it is probably pulse audio, I would reboot, should clear it up
[17:25] <saminthemiddle> mayakuza_ make sure a program isn't hogging the sound card
[17:26] <gopper> help ;[
[17:26] <mohnkern> karllenz -- sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should do the upgrade.
[17:26] <Pici> tech0007: You wait until the developers get started with it
[17:26] <tech0007> hardy is rock solid in my box, its boring..
[17:26] <mayakuza_> hogging the sound card? how di i cheach that?
[17:26] <saminthemiddle> mayakuza_ you should know what programs are running
[17:26] <akio> i can't even get to the torrent page
[17:26] <JediMaster> tech0007: what's the point in being a linux geek if you don't have to battle with your OS to do things properly huh? ;-)
[17:27] <saminthemiddle> mayakuza_: think if any of them have sound and don't show up on pulse audio's mixer
[17:27] <Adlai> JediMaster: I know, I keep getting these urges to install bsd
[17:27] <mooboo1> Pici, when do developers get started with it?
[17:27] <tech0007> JediMaster: you nailed it!
[17:27] <Adlai> JediMaster: then I remember I don't have shark insurance
[17:27] <JediMaster> lol
[17:27] <ifree>  hi, i did a network upgrade to hardy. But then my menu.lst is not updated due to i chosed retain local version. i can't boot up to 8.04 now. Any help?
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[17:27] <a1fa_> has bitchx been removed from 8.04?
[17:27] <saminthemiddle> anyone know if Ubuntu 8 has a torrent out yet? The servers are super slow
[17:27] <Pici> mooboo1: Not for a bit, I dont believe that the bluprints have even been made up yet.
[17:27] <a1fa_> !torrent
[17:27] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[17:27] <Adlai> ifree: boot into something and fix menu.lst/grub.conf
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[17:28] <a1fa_> bitchx is not part of ubuntu 8.04 anymore.. whats up?
[17:28] <daemon3> 19 Hours for an upgrade.
[17:28] <sdakak> DOWNLOAD Can't download the torrent it says. The tracker is offline.
[17:28] <mooboo1> my vlc freeze after the porno has finished, and then it freeze whole ubuntu for like 10 seconds, until it say "VLC has frozen" and I click "Close"
[17:28] <daemon3> I doubt that's correct.
[17:28] <karllenz> mohnkern: that did work
[17:28] <MaCkeR> !P2P
[17:28] <ubotu> Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[17:28] <Adlai> alfa_: irssi!
[17:28] <apg49> anyone wanna help me out with a quiick dumb question regarding 'fashion' ?
[17:28] <ifree> Adlai: i need to know hardy grub.conf right.. but i got no clue at the moment
[17:28] <JediMaster> a1fa_: I can't see it in apt-cache, so possibly
[17:28] <mooboo1> alfa_: sudo apt-get install bitchx
[17:28] <yell0w> saminthemiddle: http://davang.org/ubuntu
[17:28] <Buyyde1> Which torrent program is the one used in hardy? I don't have a good one installed on my gutsy.
[17:28] <Adlai> ifree: update-grub or something should do it
[17:28] <mgedmin> note to self: remove any self-compiled core GNOME libraries from /usr/local before upgrading Ubuntu version
[17:28] <akio> where is the .torrent?
[17:28] <atlef> !no
[17:28] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[17:28] <mohbana> what does this mean? 503 Service Unavailable
[17:28] <Adlai> Buyyde1: transmission-gtk
[17:28] <eternal_p> Buyydel: I prefer deluge
[17:28] <donomo_> yeah for Heron.
[17:28] <Phoop> Buyyde1:  Transmission
[17:28] <a1fa_> mooboo1 : it doesnt exist
[17:28] <Mighty^^> Buyyde1: Transmission
[17:29] <Mighty^^> almost all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:29] <vladuz976> stupid question, i have a 40" lcd tv, possible to use that as a monitor?
[17:29] <Buyyde1> wow, thanks! :D
[17:29] <a1fa_> mr. smartie pants
[17:29] <mooboo1> alfa_ oh... wow
[17:29] <a1fa_> !bitchx
[17:29] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[17:29] <yell0w> rtorrent
[17:29] <saminthemiddle> thanks yell0w
[17:29] <donomo_> the download page asks for 32bit or 64bit. is an Intel Core 2 Duo a "64bit AMD and Intel computers"
[17:29] <mohnkern> karllenz -- Glad its working for you.
[17:29] <yell0w> saminthemiddle: np
[17:29] <gopper> i have 2 pannels, one for the main menus (applications, places, system) and another for the started applications. Both are bottom-placed, but i want the applications-one to be above the other. Everytime i restart they are switched, any ideas?
[17:29] <eternal_p> donomo_: you will have less trouble with the 32bit
[17:29] <grhluna> note to self: email microsoft with desktop screenshot
[17:29] <mooboo1> alfa_, you're right. try with irssi maybe, or file a report
[17:29] <karllenz> mohnkern: its not lol
[17:29] <donomo_> eternal_p: thats what i thought, though i could run 64bit?
[17:29] <anon> is there any1 who uses the cx8800 module (for tvcards)? on 7.10? it causes constant high cpuload (ksoftirqd/0). can some1 confirm that this is fixed in 8.04?
[17:29] <mohnkern> laduz -- Depends on the inputs on your TV, and what type of video card you have.  Technically yes.
[17:29] <a1fa_> lol
[17:30] <Adlai> donomo_: probably yes
[17:30] <eternal_p> donomo_ yup, but 64-bit itsn't "there yet"
[17:30] <a1fa_> all reposatories are sooo SLOW
[17:30] <a1fa_> :P
[17:30] <Plantain> Is there anything wrong with just replacing gutsy with hardy then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:30] <eternal_p> although people want it to be
[17:30] <a1fa_> thanks to NEWBS
[17:30] <vladuz976> mohnkern: nvidia
[17:30] <rambo3> whats then name of osx like app lunacher bar
[17:30] <BlueParrot> guys my system bell ( at terminals and such ) is earblastingly loud, is there any way to tunr it off system wide ?
[17:30] <b33r> donomo_, I'm using 64 bit since gutsy never had problems
[17:30] <donomo_> eternal_p: ok thx
[17:30] <vladuz976> mohnkern: sony laptop
[17:30] <Absurdium> Plantain: its better to follow the update guide
[17:30] <Adlai> Plantain: update-manager -d is what you want, I think
[17:30] <a1fa_> all reposatories have slowed downnnnn
[17:30] <vladuz976> mohnkern: dunno the model
[17:30] <donomo_> b33r: ive read bits here and there like flash on 64bit is problematic
[17:30] <BlueParrot> as in, when music through pulse is at a comfortable level the system bell will blow my ears out, can I disable it ?
[17:30] <Plantain> Absurdium: That's not working (hangs on checking for new release)
[17:30] <eternal_p> I think I'll keep hitting check for updates, just to annoy everyone :)
[17:30] <mohnkern> vladuz976-- You will definitely need to know the model.
[17:30] <iddo> donomo_: im using 64bit without problems too.. flash wraps 32bit plugin and works fine
[17:30] <b33r> donomo_, you can use 32 bit java and flash
[17:30] <Adlai> BlueParrot: sudo rmmod pcspkr
[17:31] <b33r> easy to install there's a script somewhere on forums
[17:31] <BlueParrot> Adlai, thnx
[17:31] <Adlai> BlueParrot: you'll need to blacklist that module to prevent it being reloaded on boot
[17:31] <donomo_> iddo, b33r: oh interesting.
[17:31] <eternal_p> iddo: exactly, but a pita to setup, where the 32bit just "works" know what I mean
[17:31] <a1fa_> 0% [Waiting for headers]
[17:31] <a1fa_> LOL
[17:31] <a1fa_> NEWBS
[17:31] <Adlai> BlueParrot: I know what you mean, I hate that frakking beep
[17:31] <eternal_p> no advantage
[17:31] <donomo_> b33r: what about ATI video driver?
[17:31] <smithers> using smbmount just gives me the following error retrying with upper case share name
[17:31] <stev> is there a nice gam
[17:31] <smithers> mount error 6 = No such device or address
[17:31] <stev> is there a nice game to play on ubuntu
[17:31] <b33r> donomo_, dunno about that I use intel vga
[17:31] <vladuz976> mohnkern: not so worried about the laptop, wanna build a desktop but not spend the money for another monitor
[17:31] <vladuz976> mohnkern: and save space
[17:31] <Adlai> stev: nethack
[17:31] <stev> is there a nice game to play on ubuntu?
[17:31] <smithers> i can ping my windows box from hardy without a problem so it does exist on the network
[17:31] <Pici> !games | stev
[17:31] <ubotu> stev: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:31] <x0x> hey. how do i make root can restart/shutdown computer?
[17:32] <Adlai> stev: and please don't ask more than once that frequently
[17:32] <donomo_> ubuntu.com download page is not responsive. must really be getting hammered
[17:32] <W8TAH> stev - asking over and over is only going to get you banned
[17:32] <BlueParrot> Adlai, where do I blacklist it, modprobe ?
[17:32] <b33r> donomo_, and you'll notice big difference in performance if you compile a lot
[17:32] <Adlai> BlueParrot: /etc/modprobe.d/ or somesuch
[17:32] <Flare183> donomo_: Yes, in fact it is.
[17:32] <NukeSkyjumper> how do you get bitmapped fonts like nexus and vga to work in gnome-terminal?
[17:32] <Flare183> b33r: Good or bad?
[17:32] <Adlai> BlueParrot: might be /etc/modules.d, don't remember
[17:32] <mohnkern> vladuz -- Post a question on the forums for a recommended video card to hook up to a TV.  There are several, I just don't know what they are.
[17:32] <b33r> Flare183, faster
[17:32] <iddo> eternal_p: since gutsy flash worked without any setup issues, when firefox asks to install flash plugin the ubuntu package just works
[17:33] <x0x> hey. how do i make only root can restart/shutdown/blah?
[17:33] <tv3skurt> i am amazed that there is no vsync in totem despite using ati drivers.
[17:33] <Adlai> iddo: well, except when the checksum failed *raises fist in anger*
[17:33] <eternal_p> iddo: I hear you, unless you do heavy, heavy work I don't see the advantage...my cpu can do 64-bit, but 32-bit works perfectly, so why make my life more difficult
[17:33] <Flare183> b33r: What ark?
[17:33] <BlueParrot> I just add one line with 'pcspkr' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist , right ?
[17:33] <tv3skurt> Just unreal that there seems to be no support for vsync so there is massive tearing in videos.
[17:33] <arakthor> Adlai: the system pc speaker can also be disabled without removing the package.
[17:33] <smithers> smb is broken on hardy. atleast for me
[17:33] <Adlai> BlueParrot: 'blacklist pcspkr'
[17:33] <eternal_p> iddo: could be my age too, I don't have the time to fight with it like I used to
[17:33] <tv3skurt> how do i disable pc speaker in ubuntu its very annoying
[17:33] <donomo_> fat-pipe mirror here: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/8.04/
[17:34] <Stroganoff> xdm is broken, too
[17:34] <chicobo329> Wow this place is packed!
[17:34] <mohbana> are there any mirrors for the dvd torrents?
[17:34] <Adlai> arakthor: you mean module, and yeah, there's a graphical way, but disabling the module does it for ttys also
[17:34] <iddo> Adlai: ahh yes the checksum issue happened to me once on another computer... i found solution in forums
[17:34] <Flare183> chicobo329: yes of course
[17:34] <eternal_p> mohbana: isn't a mirror for a torrent a redundant question?
[17:34] <apg49> how does one wear a "Cotton belt" the on with two loops? http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50202145/Cotton_Belt.jpg
[17:34] <x0x> ANY one gonna help me?
[17:34] <Adlai> tv3skurt: get BlueParrot to explain it to you, he just did it
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[17:34] <doug2266778822> pidgin is locking up on me what else can i do now?
[17:34] <mohbana> eternal_p: i can't download the .torrent i get 503 errors
[17:34] <iddo> but anyway i think ubuntu is one of only distros where flash works well in 64bit... other distos are usually worse for that..
[17:35] <Adlai> doug2266778822: you can do a lot of things...play freecell, perhaps?
[17:35] <C_Kode> x0x: permissions
[17:35] <free1> is there a fax application for ubuntu that can send and receive faxes with a cable modem?
[17:35] <eternal_p> x0x: root is the only one who can do a shutdown, etc. that is what sudo is for, for everyone else
[17:35] <chicobo329> I have a pre-release Hardy that I want to update to the release version. However, the update manager can't check the repostories anymore. How can I get it to update to the proper release version?
[17:35] <luke__> chatroom so hot
[17:35] <BlueParrot> tv3skurt, add 'blacklist pcspkr' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:35] <Scunizi> Is there a way in console to take several emails in evolution and merge them into one text file? or as a second option.. saving the emails as text then merging them.. I'd like them in ascending date order if possible.
[17:35] <mohbana> iddo: fedora works fine for me
[17:35] <tv3skurt> BlueParrot: there really should be gui option to disable it.
[17:35] <iddo> ok
[17:35] <gopper> i have 2 pannels, one for the main menus (applications, places, system) and another for the started applications. Both are bottom-placed, but i want the applications-one to be above the other. Everytime i restart they are switched, any ideas?
[17:35] <BlueParrot> tv3skurt, then do sudo rmmod pcspkr to stop it
[17:35] <donomo_> mohbana: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu-releases/8.04/
[17:35] <x0x> eternal_p, thanks xD
[17:36] <sniker> Is there anyone but me who has problems with the panels freezes sometimes when I try to expand the clock or change gnome theme?
[17:36] <Adlai> tv3skurt: there is, but I don't think it works for ttys
[17:36] <donomo_> oh those are CDs. is there a DVD distribution?
[17:36] <doug2266778822> what other programs can i use besides pidgin since it is starting to be buggy on me and wont let me in?
[17:36] <BlueParrot> tv3skurt, I agree, I don't write the stuff thou , I literally came on here just to figure how to kill the damn thing
[17:36] <Adlai> tv3skurt: system>preferences>sound
[17:36] <Adlai> tv3skurt: 'system beep' tab
[17:36] <DooMRunneR> hmm
[17:36] <eternal_p> doug2266778822: kopete, amsn
[17:36] <Scunizi> doug2266778822: for irc?  xchat it's in the repos
[17:36] <yell0w> doug2266778822: kopete
[17:36] <Mighty^^> All .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:36] <smithers> doug2266778822: digsby.com
[17:36] <eternal_p> doug2266778822: however disabling the sound makes pidign 100% stable
[17:36] <apg49> how does one wear a "Cotton belt" the on with two loops? http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50202145/Cotton_Belt.jpg
[17:36] <bluefox83> ok, i'm downloading some pdf viewing software for hardy, and the download speeds are in bytes, not kb, it isn't upgrade day is it? >.>
[17:37] <Adlai> !offtopic apg49
[17:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic apg49 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:37] <donomo_> bluefox83: heehee. when is apt-get going to use bittorrent
[17:37] <Adlai> !offtopic | apg49
[17:37] <ubotu> apg49: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:37] <Scunizi> bluefox83: pdf viewing should be built in..
[17:37] <JPSman_> Is the update manager currently down?
[17:37] <iddo> anyone knows if this bug was fixed in hardy final? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/99508
[17:37] <apg49> :( thers no where i can find out
[17:37] <bluefox83> donomo_, hopefully...never
[17:37] <MrKeuner> ikonia: what is different in non-lts than lts with respect to upgrading from each to other?
[17:37] <chicobo329> yeah that's right, I can't use the Update Manager to update to the release version of Hardy
[17:37] <smithers> smb mounting worked fine in gutsy broken now
[17:37] <chicobo329> I dunno if it's down or something
[17:37] <smithers> sigh
[17:37] <mtristan> hi everyone
[17:37] <Adlai> apg49: you seem to be looking in all the wrong places, judging by what I'm seeing
[17:37] <bluefox83> Scunizi, i found some neat pdf viewing and editing packages...so i figured i'd install them
[17:37] <skep_> does the live cd support luks?
[17:37] <saminthemiddle> yell0w: thanks, it's better than the mainline downloads at least. Someone should put it on the official download page. Right now only a few people are on it.
[17:38] <dny> chicobo329: I'm getting the same problem, and I can't use torrents. :/
[17:38] <Scunizi> bluefox83: is one of them pdfedit?
[17:38] <apg49> Adlai where shud i look
[17:38] <tv3skurt> BlueParrot: thanks for the help
[17:38] <eternal_p> im' out...g' luck everyone
[17:38] <rbd> hi guys, I messed up some files in an installed package. what's the easiest way to reinstall a deb (without having to uninstall it first, I just want to install it again and overwrite everything)
[17:38] <rinaldi_> I am going to do a fresh install. How do I create a seperate partition for the /home directory using the livecd? Also how big do you recommend? I have 200gb
[17:38] <chicobo329> I suppose it could be a traffic issue, though I would like to know an official answer at least. Perhaps I should wait until later?
[17:38] <tv3skurt> BlueParrot: now i am hopeing someone can help me get vsync in totem so i can videos without problems.
[17:38] <bluefox83> Scunizi, yeah, the other is pdfcube :)
[17:38] <tv3skurt> There is massive tearing.
[17:38] <eternal_p> rinaldi_: bad timing for you, I have to run, or else it is easy to do
[17:39] <_kavOOr_> Hardy is GOD level . .thank you developers
[17:39] <dny> chiciobo329:  Is yours saying yoru system is up to date?
[17:39] <mik3> are the mirrors dead or something? install has stopped at 'scanning the mirror'
[17:39] <JPSman_> rbd: download iso and burn it to a CD, then run that live cd (and format your drive section partition)
[17:39] <Scunizi> bluefox83: pdfedit has been buggy for me.  never tried pdfcube
[17:39] <chicobo329> it stalls when I click the 'check' button, dny
[17:39] <eternal_p> rinaldi_: basically you need 100mb /boot parition a swap partition (I like 2gb) a / partition (I like 10-20gigs) and your /home for the rest
[17:39] <chicobo329> it doesn't download any of the packages
[17:39] <eternal_p> rinaldi: g'luck
[17:39] <JPSman_> yes, IS the package downloader off line right now??
[17:39] <apg49> Adlai do you know how to
[17:39] <vsdz> monkaiy
[17:39] <dny> chiciobo329:  ahh, well mine will run through the check, but comes back saying im fully updated
[17:39] <bluefox83> Scunizi, all well, i don't think i will be editing many pdf files, i'm just curious as to how well they work
[17:39] <sebastt> hello everyone. I need some help please. I cant get my ati mobility radeon card to work under hardy
[17:39] <rbd> JPSman: shut up
[17:40] <v0lksman> anyone got good docs on how to use PolicyKit?  I do all my work remotely and PK is blocking me from network changes...I thought I had enabled everything in Authorizations to allow it but I guess not...Need help....thanks!
[17:40] <mtristan> can someone help me with openbox : I try to have the wallpaper at startup, but each time, I get the black background...
[17:40] <JPSman_> rbd: ?
[17:40] <chicobo329> do you mind if I paste what it fails to fetch from the error window?
[17:40] <suxxor> somebody using XAMMP?
[17:40] <Adlai> apg49: holy hell this is a support channel for an operating system, not a community devoted to helping you get dressed in the morning, and besides, I already pmed you
[17:40] <HymnToLife> !pastebin | chicobo329
[17:40] <ubotu> chicobo329: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[17:40] <fbc> They only way I can get into my machine is through FAILSAFE GNOME. How can I fix this???
[17:40] <suxxor> /var/run/mysqld
[17:40] <mik3> are the mirrors dead?
[17:40] <rwycuff> suxxor:why use XAMMP youve got linux
[17:40] <Scunizi> bluefox83: what I'd really like to have is a G3 fax .tif editor or annotator that will allow me to save the edits with the multipage file.
[17:40] <suxxor> somebody using XAMMP?
[17:41] <JPSman_> mik3: exactly what I want to know
[17:41] <juano__> #ubuntu-bugs
[17:41] <JPSman_> are the mirrors down right now?
[17:41] <mik3> has to be
[17:41] <hb> I have 10 FiOS PCs seeding the 8.04 image for those who are fighting with slow http downloads.
[17:41] <Eric_Jardas> anyone else having problem with getting response from repository ?
[17:41] <juano__> iddo: join #ubuntu-bugs
[17:41] <suxxor> somebody using XAMMP?
[17:41] <zero> hey, can anyone help me? i want to install the new KDE4 core under Ubuntu
[17:41] <Mighty^^> All .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:41] <citronbleu-v> there is torrent files ?
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[17:42] <hb> oh yea
[17:42] <JPSman_> Eric_Jardas: is that like the package manager?  because mine isn't working right now
[17:42] <mik3> this freakin installation won't finish because it's stopped on Scanning the mirror
[17:42] <suxxor> somebody using XAMMP?
[17:42] <NeoGeo64> What time did Ubuntu come out today?
[17:42] <chicobo329> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64258/ Okay, this is what I get when I try to download the packages to check for updates
[17:42] <hb> I'm running 6MBps full atm
[17:42] <skep_> around 1pm gmt i think
[17:42] <mtristan> is there anyone using OpenBox under Ubuntu feisty, and who could help me?
[17:42] <fbc> Could someone tell me how I can boot into regular gnome without having to go into fail-safe?
[17:42] <hb> well that's a lie
[17:42] <hb> ~6Mbps
[17:42] <NeoGeo64> what time zone are you in skep_
[17:42] <Eric_Jardas> JPSman, yep...it looks like its probably becuase of massive ammount of people updating their ubuntu
[17:43] <suxxor> somebody using XAMMP?
[17:43] <mik3> suxxor : no for fucks sake
[17:43] <JPSman_> lol isitout?  why can't I update lol   wow
[17:43] <ikonia> mik3: stop with the language
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[17:43] <ikonia> mik3: thats unacceptable and uncalled for
[17:43] <beex> does anybody know how to unlock your pointer?
[17:43] <Eric_Jardas> JPSman, it's out but its too slow to update now
[17:43] <skep_> NeoGeo64: CEST
[17:43] <ubuntuROX_> I guess the development version description in grub not changing from the beta is a bug eh?
[17:43] <Eric_Jardas> it won't hurt you to wait a little
[17:43] <fbc> mik3, Yes we are all prudes here.
[17:44] <chicobo329> could that be my problem then?
[17:44] <skep_> UTC+2 that is
[17:44] <rwycuff> suxxor: apt-get install mysql-server apache2 php5 php5-mysql for you xampp
[17:44] <Cameron> how can I make nautilus navigate forward/backwars using the sidebuttons on my mouse ?  firefox just works.
[17:44] <hb> whats the x in xampp?
[17:44] <zero> hey i have a problem with my update manager, when i start it out in terminal i get this message:current dist not found in meta-release file HOW DOI FIX this?
[17:44] <hb> I know what lamp is
[17:44] <W8TAH> can someone recomend a good program that can act as an alarm clock from ones laptop or a desktop unit?
[17:44] <stib> Hi , trying to u/g my xubuntu install, but the upgrade manager is only saying that there is an upgrade to 7.10 available. Is there somthing I can add to sources.lst or whatever it is to get it to see 8.04? Thanks
[17:45] <mtristan> is there anyone using OpenBox under Ubuntu feisty, and who could help me with setting the background at startup?
[17:45] <ShmooliKipod> !isitout
[17:45] <ubotu> YES!
[17:45] <JPSman_> Eric_Jardas: do you know the terminal command to tell me what version of a specific loaded driver I am using?
[17:45] <suxxor> i`ve got xampp but the problem is that is running the default mysql server on linux i can`t run xampp mysql server
[17:45] <atlef> Cameron: i think you need to install imwheel
[17:45] <ubuntuROX_> zero, I have the same issue,
[17:45] <m1r> suxxor: try change mysql and apache ports
[17:46] <free1> ubotu: what up, fool
[17:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what up, fool - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:46] <mgedmin> stib: what version do you have?  if 7.04, then you must first upgrae to 7.10
[17:46] <zero> ubuntuROX_, what is that all about? i havent had an update come for 2 days not
[17:46] <zero> *now
[17:46] <suxxor> how can i do that ?
[17:46] <JPSman_> Zero: too many people are trying to use it at once.    Just wait for updateability
[17:46] <suxxor> to change this porsts
[17:46] <Cameron> atlef: why does it work for firefox out of the box , but not nautilus ?
[17:46] <free1> is there any decent fax software for ubuntu
[17:46] <ubuntuROX_> zero, even when using the cd and checking it as a source, it does not update,, Im wondering whats up with that?
[17:46] <zero> JPSman, but it doesnt show dist in meta-release file, whats tha ll abou it
[17:46] <atlef> Cameron: i do not know
[17:46] <ubuntuROX_> is it possible that its just mislabled as a development version?
[17:47] <Cameron> atlef: when I run imwheel, it stops firefox from working
[17:47] <mgedmin> why doesn't Ctrl+Alt+Fx switch to other consoles in hardy?
[17:47] <Cameron> atlef: (navigation forward/backward I mean)
[17:47] <nekohayo> madmanwoo_: madman2k?
[17:47] <zero> ubuntuROX_, is it stable or not?
[17:47] <beex> mgedmin, I don't have that issue
[17:47] <atlef> Cameron: although it did not work in firefox either before hardy, atleast not for me
[17:47] <sebastt> hello everyone. I need some help please. I cant get my ati mobility radeon card to work properly under hardy
[17:47] <stib> mgedmin: thanks. I think it is 7.04 Dang. Two >600 downloads and the local mirrors are glowing hot..
[17:47] <hb> leech my little trolls leech!  Verizon is gonna hate me :>
[17:47] <ubuntuROX_> I dont know, I downloaded the cd and ran update manager from it, said there were no updates
[17:47] <chicobo329> well I guess I should just wait for later then. I'm just surprised there would be issues with so many people downloading it! I guess it's just really popular these days
[17:48] <mtristan> is there anyone using OpenBox under Ubuntu feisty, and who could help me with setting the background at startup?
[17:48] <mgedmin> beex: strange thing is it works in the login screen, but not after login
[17:48] <zero> ubuntuROX_, when did you dl the CD
[17:48] <Adlai> mgedmin: it should, perhaps something is broken
[17:48] <mgedmin> must be a configuration issue somewhere
[17:48] <psymin> If anyone has iwl3945 working with Heron on amd64 please message me advice.
[17:48] <Mighty^^> now ALL .torrent are here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[17:48] <ubuntuROX_> today, after release
[17:48] <NukeSkyjumper> what's a good font for really small out-of-the-way terminals?
[17:48] <zero> mrtristan, feisty is pretty outdated, why not upgrade?
[17:48] <cwillu> NukeSkyjumper, terminus
[17:48] <mgedmin> xev shows XF86_Switch_VT_1 keysyms
[17:48] <hb> Mighty^^: they're also listed on isohunt/Piratebay as well
[17:48] <PaulMooney> we can ask hardy questions in here right?
[17:48] <BlueParrot> oh horror, the repos are under a bit of stress it seems :P
[17:49] <zero> ubuntuROX_, ok tahts the stable, well, not sure about htat
[17:49] <hb> Mighty^^: They're being hosted on PBs tracker as well
[17:49] <mgedmin> launchpad.net is melting today ;)
[17:49] <grhluna> ubuntu is sexy
[17:49] <NukeSkyjumper> what's a good truetype font for small terms?
[17:49] <ubuntuROX_> I would think that if the cd does not update it its stable
[17:49] <tawt> can someone help me?  how do i get the mouse to scroll up/down on a touchpad?
[17:49] <mtristan> zero : I think I'm going to upgrade, but to gutsy, not hardy
[17:49] <zero> ubuntuROX_, its stable
[17:50] <ubuntuROX_> however, it could be that its not recognizing the name of the current version
[17:50] <xngear> do you think number of people dling ubuntu is bigger or lower then ppl dling gta 4? ;/
[17:50] <hb> lol
[17:50] <mtristan> but I can't still try......     is there anyone using OpenBox under Ubuntu feisty, and who could help me with setting the background at startup?
[17:50] <zero> mtristan, why not hardy
[17:50] <frostburn> tawt, not sure on your specific issue, but check out the synaptics package
[17:50] <regis_> hello, is there a recursive options for apt-get that also remove the dependences when you uninstall a package?
[17:50] <ubuntuROX_> but, like you I have not seen any updates since they released the RC
[17:50] <Pici> !offtopic | Please try to keep #ubuntu open for Support Questions
[17:50] <mtristan> cause it's to fresh zero :p
[17:50] <ubotu> Please try to keep #ubuntu open for Support Questions: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:50] <Adlai> regis_: aptitude tends to do that by itself
[17:51] <zero> mtristan, ive been using it for over 2 weeks now, its fucking awesome, im telling you, its great
[17:51] <gustavo_> mtristan: look for openbox howto gentoo wiki at google.. i managed to config the wallpaper following this guide
[17:51] <regis_> Adlai, thanks
[17:51] <mtristan> gustavo_, even under ubuntu?
[17:51] <gustavo_> mtristan: its for gentoo, another distro, but the logic is the same
[17:51] <Pici> zero: Please watch the language in here.
[17:51] <mtristan> ok gustavo_
[17:51] <ubuntuROX_> did everything go stable 2 days ago?
[17:51] <gustavo_> brb
[17:51] <lmntox> hello all
[17:51] <james_> i am wondering if anyone here canhelp me solve a wierd issue with my network manager, the issue is that out of the box on live cd and after first reboot it saw my wifi card, however wifi-radar see's it and so does iwconfig wlan0 but when i connect with wifi-radar it does not relize iti is on the internet so my internal network functions do not work, any idea
[17:51] <Zvezdichko> hello, repos gives me
[17:52] <Zvezdichko> connect (111 Connection refused)
[17:52] <Zvezdichko> what is this?
[17:52] <mattywarr> hello - how do i cd to a directory that has spaces in the folder name?
[17:52] <murphyt> any know why the cd install gives "buffer i/o error" errors and "squashfs" errors?
[17:52] <hb> Pici, you're in an internet chatroom.  That's like walking into a bar and screaming don't drink!
[17:52] <james_> try and underscore
[17:52] <rothchild> congratulations and thanks to all the Ubuntu devs for getting Hardy out of the door
[17:52] <murphyt> mattywarr, try putting \ in front of the space
[17:52] <mtristan> zero : will hardy run correctly with a 500MHz ?
[17:52] <kdubois> mattywarr: use the escape sequence "\ "
[17:52] <karllenz> to upgrade it takes 5 hours??
[17:52] <karllenz> lol
[17:52] <james_> zero what distro you using
[17:52] <thoreauputic> mattywarr: or just tab complet the name
[17:52] <kdubois> mattywarr: without the quotes, just backslash space
[17:52] <zero> james_, ubuntu 8,04
[17:52] <BlueParrot> is there any easy way to get a list of backport packages I have installed ?
[17:53] <Pici> hb: Nevertheless, its part of the channel guidelines
[17:53] <SaadSaeed> took too long to reach ubuntu.com man its getting hammered
[17:53] <ltracy__> Is there something special you have to do to get from the beta to the release version?  My apt sources list appears to be a little hosed now
[17:53] <orthodoc> SaadSaeed: you can reach the download page though
[17:53] <SaadSaeed> orthodoc: linky?
[17:53] <james_> zero cool will it work on a PIII at 800mhz with 128mb ram =)
[17:53] <Jimdb> james:  in my testing of 8.04 on laptops the wifi problems got worse, not better.  I did lot of reporting on the issues but they seem to have been ignored.
[17:53] <lmntox> I am trying to get ubuntu to work with my belkin wireless n notebook card any ideas?
[17:53] <orthodoc> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[17:53] <Zvezdichko> ``is there somebody who has problem with repositories?
[17:53] <rodolfo_> is there a way to upgrade directly from the mounted image, burned on cd?
[17:53] <centyx> Zvezdichko: it's nick moffit's fault. he broke the servers.
[17:53] <james_> i am running dreamlinux 3.0 with xfce right now it worked out of the box and after the first reboot
[17:53] <mtristan> does anyone know if hardy would run correctly with a 500MHz ?
[17:53] <mattywarr> hmm - ok how do i cd to my cdrom device? cd /cdrom0 doesn;t seem to work
[17:53] <james_> now i am haveing an issue
[17:54] <Zvezdichko> centyx: thank you
[17:54] <Zvezdichko> I thought the problem is related to my computer
[17:54] <ubuntuROX_> ltracy - they say update manager is supposed to do it
[17:54] <bullgard4> Since upgrading to Hardy irregularly a while after booting my LAN connection to the router fails. See line 498 of  http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/201556, and repeats itself all 8 lines. What is the cause of this?
[17:54] <james_> limdb thanks i am running dreamlinux 3.0 actually
[17:54] <leonbrussels> mtristan: Check out xubuntu, extra lightweight, with klighter window manager
[17:54] <thoreauputic> mattywarr: try cd /medis.cdrom
[17:54] <ltracy__> mtristan, Try the XFCE version.. it's probably your best bet.
[17:54] <james_> it is a debian based package
[17:54] <zero> james_ not very well, the minimum system requirements require 256 mb ram, you MIGHT be able to get xubuntu to work, but if i were you i'd try something like DSL or Puppy, or DreamLinux
[17:54] <centyx> Zvezdichko: :P i'm kidding. it's like this every time there's a new release
[17:54] <Pici> james_: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, try ##linux perhaps
[17:54] <thoreauputic> mattywarr: sorry /media/cdrom
[17:54] <murphyt> any know why the cd install gives "buffer i/o error" errors and "squashfs" errors? i'm trying to instal clean ver
[17:54] <ubuntuROX_> I believe, you may be already updated and its just still mis-labeled in grub.
[17:54] <rothchild> I've got a problem with gdm, I get an 'authentification failed' error message that I can get rid of, the only way to log out and log in again is to shutdown and restart I'm not sure where to start looking at how to fix this?
[17:54] <atlef> Zvezdichko: you do understand that the traffic at this moment is tremendous
[17:54] <james_> pici i tried linus
[17:54] <james_> linux
[17:54] <stefano> mtristan, it will run, it well be a bit sluggish but it will run, you might want to install xubuntu, it is a lot faster and you get all the gtk goodness
[17:54] <orthodoc> SaadSaeed: torrent download is the best way i think...
[17:54] <james_> not any help in there
[17:55] <lmntox> I am trying to get ubuntu to work with my belkin wireless n notebook card any ideas? on hardy btw
[17:55] <hb> 31.25MBps up.  I'm expecting verizon to call me any minute :x
[17:55] <james_> hey zero you familar with dreamlinux
[17:55] <NeoGeo64> I just finished downloading Ubuntu 8.04.  Should I bother seeding?
[17:55] <Pici> james_: That doesnt mean its okay for you to ask in here.
[17:55] <mattywarr> perfect, thanks :)
[17:55] <Zvezdichko> atlef: I even didn't understand that it's stable now. I am using it since beta
[17:55] <SaadSaeed> orthodoc: good torrent client for ubuntu?
[17:55] <mtristan> leonbrussels, ltracy__, stefano,  I will use openbox so I don't care about xubuntu or ubuntu...
[17:55] <thoreauputic> NeoGeo64: of course
[17:55] <mooboo1> NeoGeo64, sure if you can :)
[17:55] <lolEee> NeoGeo64, the more seeds the better
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[17:55] <zero> james_: a little bit yeah, its installed on one of my thumb drives
[17:55] <rob3r_> I am running the RC on this laptop, how can I have it updated so it is at the 8.04 LTS version?
[17:55] <james_> zero if you can can you PM me
[17:55] <ubuntuROX_> transmission
[17:55] <stefano> mtristan, then you're good to go
[17:55] <lordlandon> is anyone having trouble with the hardy repos?
[17:55] <mooboo1> NeoGeo64, i finished downloading it long ago, I am still seeding
[17:55] <mtristan> sure stefano?
[17:55] <mtristan> ^^
[17:55] <Jimdb> neogeo64:  of course, more seeders means faster distribution
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[17:55] <bjoern25> Does someone have the torrent, this game = Crysis Special Edition 8,43 GB =Other place ETA = 17 ouers !!? I wanne try share movies and games over Win.Live Messenger 2008 to get faster speed !Annyone?
[17:55]  * lolEee is sat on a phone connection so cannot download (nor seed) hardy
[17:55] <orthodoc> SaadSaeed: bittorrent or deluge
[17:56] <NeoGeo64> i only have a 50k/sec upload though
[17:56] <orthodoc> or ktorrent
[17:56] <centyx> lordlandon: everyone is. wait a day or two ;)
[17:56] <mooboo1> rob3r_, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade :p
[17:56] <bjoern25> Does someone have the torrent, this game = Crysis Special Edition 8,43 GB =Other place ETA = 17 ouers !!? I wanne try share movies and games over Win.Live Messenger 2008 to get faster speed !Annyone?
[17:56] <bcnaat> lordlandon: my update icon has been gray for about 30 minutes now - repos are being hammered right now!
[17:56] <matrix|ab> i'm having terrible terrible problems with DVD playback. mplayer won't go to fullscreen and neither will VLC. they both just crash when i try to fullscreen
[17:56] <Pelo> rob3r_, you probably already are up to 8.04 level,  there is no specific difference with RC if RC is uptodate
[17:56] <biabia> if i download the hardy iso and burn and install it is that much different than if i update/upgrade to it
[17:56] <lordlandon> so i figured q=
[17:56] <Jimdb> neogeo64:  typical of cable internet upload speeds.
[17:56] <bstock> hey, anyone know the syntax in /etc/apt/sources.lst to add local files? i want to copy the cd locally and use those as a source
[17:56] <stefano> mtristan, yes, no problem. get the minimal install cd, it will install just a command line system, then you can go from there
[17:56] <lordlandon> quite unfortunate D=
[17:56] <bcnaat> I'm waiting to see if there is an update for the sound - no sound?
[17:56] <rob3r_> moobool, thanks :)
[17:56] <rob3r_> Pelo, thanks
[17:56] <lordlandon> i should've thought about that before clean installing q=
[17:56] <mtristan> ok stefano, thanks
[17:56] <thoreauputic> bjoern25: totally off-topic :)
[17:56] <Riot777> sorry for stupid question but is hardy out officially or still rc?
[17:57] <stib> mtristan: I'm runnign on a ~700 using Xubuntu. It's about as fast as win98 was. Xubuntu is your best bet for low end machines. Puppy linux was faster, but too unstable.
[17:57] <bstock> riot777 official
[17:57] <lolEee> Riot777, it's out
[17:57] <Riot777> ty
[17:57] <hb> win.live? ew
[17:57] <wad> Hi, I need to make a Gantt Chart. Is there a linux tool that does this sort of thing?
[17:57] <Exlax> I know theres a channel for wine, but since this seems to be related to 8.04..i'll ask here...does anyoen else get a preloader: failed to reserver ############ when they start wine in hardy?
[17:57] <Jimdb> how much difference between teh RC1 and the official release?
[17:57] <Pelo> bcnaat, some ppl have had issues with pulseaudio,  I think it is mentionned in the !sound guide now
[17:57] <bjoern25> Does someone have the torrent, this game = Crysis Special Edition 8,43 GB =Other place ETA = 17 ouers !!? I wanne try share movies and games over Win.Live Messenger 2008 to get faster speed !Annyone?
[17:57] <Pelo> !sound | bcnaat
[17:57] <ubotu> bcnaat: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[17:57] <mattywarr> trying to install a java app but geting an error: The wizard cannot continue because of the following error: could not load wizard specified in /wizard.inf (104)
[17:57] <bluefox83> stib, how about dsl?
[17:57] <hb> somebody an him.
[17:57] <hb> ban even
[17:57] <lmntox> pelo, are you one of the people helping out??
[17:57] <murphyt> any know why the cd install gives "buffer i/o error" errors and "squashfs" errors? i'm trying to instal clean ver (not using wubi)
[17:57] <wad> kickban!
[17:58] <alienbrain> Is ubuntu.com main page broken on FF?
[17:58] <ltracy__> What do I have to do to upgrade from the Beta to the release of Hardy?  It appears that my update-manage can't resolve many of the apt sources that were installed by the beta dist-upgrade
[17:58] <Pelo> lmntox, I do what I can, it's not like I get paid or anything
[17:58] <Yahoouser> Hello!
[17:58] <JVJB> no alient, just slo
[17:58] <repabil> Since I upgraded to hardy my desktop can't find my home partition. It say's fsck died with exit status 8
[17:58] <marx2k> murphyt: do a check on your hard drive
[17:58] <Jimdb> murphyt:  i think it has to do with acpi or something like that.
[17:58] <zero> am i the only one making to the front page of ubuntu wiht no issues
[17:58] <JPSman_> If I found the solution to a particular problem, where can I post the answer?
[17:58] <Pelo> alienbrain, the website is under heavy load because of the release
[17:58] <JPSman_> ubuntu forums?
[17:58] <stib> bluefox: didn't try that. I can't remember why, I looked at it and went for puppy instead.
[17:58] <ubuntuROX_> ltracy__ the preferred answer for your issue is to wait until the servers are unloaded
[17:58] <Yahoouser> First of all I would like to thank you for latest version of Ubuntu.
[17:58] <hb> alienbrain, no just really busy.  if you're looking for hardy do a search for hardy 8.04 on isohunt or piratepay.org.  Do not download the files labed as "RC"
[17:58] <Pici> JPSman_: Thats a good place
[17:58] <bjoern25> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzDoes someone have the torrent, this game = Crysis Special Edition 8,43 GB =Other place ETA = 17 ouers !!? I wanne try share movies and games over Win.Live Messenger 2008 to get faster speed !Annyone?
[17:58] <lmntox> pelo, i know volunteer an what not do you know anything about throwing on a notebook wifi card?
[17:58] <ltracy__> ubuntuROX_, ok :)
[17:58] <Pelo> !ops | bjoern25
[17:58] <ubotu> bjoern25: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[17:58] <Pici> !piracy | bjoern25
[17:58] <ubotu> bjoern25: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[17:59] <cyborg_> 32 or 64 bit version?
[17:59] <PriceChild> Pelo: no need to ops when there is one active :)
[17:59] <stefano> Bjoern25, winners don't do warez
[17:59] <cyborg_> os[Linux 2.6.22-14-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz @ 1.63GHz] mem[Physical : 2026MB, 87.0% free] disk[Total : 240.89GB, 5.10% Free] video[nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8800 GTS]] sound[]
[17:59] <lmntox> lol stefano
[17:59] <Pelo> !wifi > lmntox   check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[17:59] <Yahoouser> I was reading Ubuntu Server Feature list. I need help to understand the meaning and advantage of certain kernel features.
[17:59] <Pelo> PriceChild, I didn't notice you
[17:59] <lmntox> hey thanks pelo
[17:59] <Luckrider> what is the party chan?
[17:59] <PriceChild> Pelo: i meant pici ;)
[17:59] <W8TAH> can someone recomend a good program that can act as an alarm clock from ones laptop or a desktop unit?
[18:00] <Luckrider> PARTY CHAN?
[18:00] <Pelo> PriceChild, didn'T notice him either
[18:00] <Jimdb> murphyt:  put this as a switch on the command line when booting:             ide=nodma
[18:00] <Luckrider> !pastebin
[18:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:00] <rambo3> this channel need #ubuntu-overflow
[18:00] <Pici> Luckrider: #ubuntu-release-party
[18:00] <Luckrider> tahnks
[18:00] <Luckrider> Thanks
[18:00] <murphyt> Jimdb: thanks i'll try that
[18:00]  * Pelo has all the opns on /ignore anyway 
[18:00] <alienbrain> hmm nice! I got 100% fooled. Thought that main page big banner is Flash.
[18:00] <Pici> Pelo: :P
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[18:00] <cyclonut> has anyone gotten firebug working with firefox 3 b5?
[18:00] <Pici> cyclonut: No, it is not compatible.
[18:00] <MrObvious> Where can I get some other apt-get repositories?
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[18:01] <stefano> does anyone know how to get webkit to run inside firefox or epiphany
[18:01] <Drefsab> just wiped and resintalled my server with 8.04 and alls up and running smooth :D
[18:01] <stefano> ?
[18:01] <rothchild> I've got a problem with gdm, I get an 'authentification failed' error message that I can get rid of, the only way to log out and log in again is to shutdown and restart I'm not sure where to start looking at how to fix this?
[18:01] <Pici> cyclonut: You can install firefox-2 if you *need* to use it though
[18:01] <MrObvious> !repositories
[18:01] <neverblue> Heron was released today ?
[18:01] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[18:01] <Pici> neverblue: yes
[18:01] <Pelo> MrObvious, menu > system > admin > software sources,  check all the boxes on the top half of the 1st and 3rd tab
[18:01] <neverblue> ah, thanks Pici
[18:01] <hb> MrObvious: open up synaptic and go to the sources, there should be an option to pick a source based on speed
[18:01] <cyclonut> Pici: I get errors when trying to install in ffx2
[18:01] <cyclonut> :(
[18:01] <biabia> if i download the hardy iso and burn and install it is that much different than if i update/upgrade to it
[18:01] <m1r> mtristan: yes, use alternate cd install for 500mhz, maybe even try xubuntu
[18:02] <Luckrider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64260/
[18:02] <xngear> what program you recommend for ubuntu to burn xbox 360 isos? :/
[18:02] <Pelo> biabia, you can upgrade from the alternate cd or from the dvd,  it's quiker
[18:02] <hb> biabia: yes and no, but considering that all of the ubuntu mirrors are getting hammered right now your best bet for an upgrade is donwloading the iso via torrent
[18:02] <alesan> hey but isn't there a bittorrent to download the new ubuntu
[18:02] <Pelo> xngear, brassero and gnomebaker work well
[18:02] <alesan> ???
[18:02] <murphyt> ok i tried acpi=off on one occasion and ide=nodma on a different occasion, neither of the worked for my "sqashfs" errors and "buffer i/o" errors, any other suggestions
[18:03] <neverblue> alesan, read the topic...
[18:03] <hb> www.isohunt.com www.piratebay.com they both have the torrents on their respective trackers now
[18:03] <idealab_loco> How can i upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10 by using shell
[18:03] <idealab_loco> ?
[18:03] <Pelo> idealab_loco, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:03] <chimp_> Hmm the gb ubuntu repos are ignoring me, should i just wait, for time being doing network upgrade?
[18:03] <biabia> Pelo: speed isnt my concern, i just didnt want to install from cd and erase any data on my pc other than whats needed to be changed with the new version
[18:03] <lortjava> people from Argentina?
[18:03] <Scunizi> If I'm running gnome and want to purge Kubuntu-desktop would I sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop? and will that eliminate the config files for things like koffice as well?
[18:03] <xngear> Pelo does it support double layer? never heard they support it
[18:03] <MrObvious> Ahh better!
[18:03] <bhsx> i've been running the beta for about 5-6 weeks now....    it's running fairly unstable though...  should I just run an update, or should i DL the iso and go for a fresh install???
[18:03] <lortjava> people from Argentina??? i have news about events of Web And Beer :D
[18:04] <mattywarr> where can I change the JAVA_HOME environment variable?
[18:04] <MrObvious> Thanks Pelo and hb
[18:04] <hb> np
[18:04] <Pelo> biabia, the severs are under heavy loads,  I donT' think upgrading the distro online is a very good idea, get the alt or the dvd in torrent , save some bandwith if yo ucan
[18:04] <matrix|ab> where can i get xubuntu
[18:04] <maek> Does hardy heron have Xorg7.3 ??
[18:04] <Pelo> xngear, no idea,  I think brassero does
[18:04] <idealab_loco> It should be quicker than using the Administration-->Update Manager?
[18:04] <JPSman_> can anyone else sign onto ubuntu forums??
[18:04] <hb> it's flooded man
[18:05] <hb> i'm surprised ubuntu.com is even alive atm
[18:05] <javiolo_> Hi, just downloaded 8.04 and burned a cd how can I update my sistem from cd-rom ? I added the cdrom as a repo but it doesn´t work
[18:05] <xngear> Pelo i see you have no idea about burning xbox 360 isos
[18:05]  * northman jump
[18:05] <Scunizi> JPSman: yes
[18:05] <Pelo> idealab_loco,  the servers are under heavy loads,  if you want quick , get the .torrent for the dvd or the alt-cd and upgrade from that
[18:05] <lordlandon> i think ubuntu.com is static
[18:05] <Pici> javiolo_: You can only upgrade using the alternate CD.
[18:05] <lordlandon> so it holds up better than a forum
[18:05] <TerryYaki> Hey, I was checking my network status, and it says that I've been downloading something for the past few hours. Yet, I have no idea what I'm downloading. Silly question, but if it's upgrading or downloading upgrades, should there be something that tells me explicitly that I'm downloading the packages?
[18:05] <JPSman_> ScuniziL thank you
[18:05] <Pelo> xngear, you mean burning from an xbox or burning an xbox.iso file ?
[18:05] <javiolo_> Pici ok
[18:05] <javiolo_> thanks
[18:05] <Destroyer> Can someone help me ?
[18:05] <fbc> How do I get to adjust my video card driver and monitor type in Hardy?
[18:05] <JPSman_> heh, ubuntu on an Xbox - wait
[18:05]  * JPSman_ runs off to google
[18:06] <jharkn> TerryYaki: it tells you when doing updates, there'd be an icon next to the time
[18:06] <Drefsab> how hard is it to bind multiple IP's to one network interface from the commandline?
[18:06] <Pelo> xngear, just checked brassero does dboule layers,  and an iso is just an iso , which ever app you use to burn it will  make a clone copy of he original cd it was taken from
[18:06] <murphyt> ok i tried acpi=off on one occasion and ide=nodma on a different occasion, neither of the worked for my "sqashfs" errors and "buffer i/o" errors, any other suggestions
[18:06] <Destroyer> what does this error mean: [64063.268592] mangos-worldd[19329]: segfault at ffffffffff497ba0 rip ffffffffff497ba0 rsp 433d6d68 error 14
[18:07] <dreamnid> is anybody having problems with cut and pasting files in Hardy?
[18:07] <Pelo> Destroyer, put the error msg in the search of the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[18:07] <TerryYaki> Hmm... then that's not it. Well, in that case, I can't figure out what I'm downloading.
[18:07] <stothepizzle> happy release day!
[18:07] <xngear> Pelo i see you have no idea of copy protection schemes
[18:07] <matrix|ab> i think ubuntu has gotten buggier
[18:07] <stothepizzle> of course it has matrix
[18:07] <mrak> hello
[18:07] <Scunizi> Pelo, even if the formatting/filesys of the cd may not be recognized by anything
[18:07] <rsc___> why is that matrix?
[18:07] <stothepizzle> as code gets bigger it gets buggier
[18:07] <BlueParrot> uhm, ok , so I did an aptitude update , problem is some of the repositories seem to be overloaded so I can't get the package list, is it safe to install/uninstall software without having up to date package lists from all the repositories ?
[18:07] <stothepizzle> its just a natural law
[18:07] <stothepizzle> and ubuntu is getting bigger and bigger
[18:07] <Destroyer> does anyone know what this error means: [64063.268592] mangos-worldd[19329]: segfault at ffffffffff497ba0 rip ffffffffff497ba0 rsp 433d6d68 error 14
[18:07] <rwycuff> Destroyer: maybe ask question that has something to do with ubuntu and not ilegal wow server emulator
[18:07] <neeto> How do I install 8.04 from an ISO without burning it to a CD first?
[18:07] <matrix|ab> things that once worked flawlessly no longer work. e.g. dvd playback, suspension
[18:08] <Pelo> xngear, you shouldn'T be asking to copy copyrighted material here, I was assuming you needed to burn an image of someting legitimate
[18:08] <Destroyer> It aint an emulator, i am just asking what the general protection error means.
[18:08] <mrak> can u give me url for hh repository cz.archive.ubuntu.com doesnt work
[18:08] <rwycuff> neeto:i think you need kickstart or something like that
[18:08] <hb> neeto: I could be wrong but I believe you would have to boot from it
[18:08] <Pelo> matrix|ab, I haven'T experienced this sorry
[18:08] <jharkn> neeto: mount the iso using, for example, daemon tools, then install under windows using wubi
[18:08] <rwycuff> Destroyer: last i checked mangos is an emu
[18:08] <neeto> rwycuff: how do you kickstart it? I have it mounted as a loop device right now... I just don't have any CD's to burn it to.
[18:08] <bcnaat> matrix|ab: do have also have problems with flash?
[18:08] <Destroyer> Its for learning purposes only
[18:08] <jharkn> iirc
[18:08] <oddalot> bah, i can't download any packages from 8.10 what gives?
[18:09] <matrix|ab> i haven't tried flash.
[18:09] <xngear> Pelo: i dont need excuses from you
[18:09] <fbc> How do I get to adjust my video card driver and monitor type in Hardy?
[18:09] <rwycuff> !kickstart | neeto
[18:09] <ubotu> neeto: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[18:09] <neeto> rwycuff: thanks mate
[18:09] <digisus> My friend just upgraded (no CD) and got into "debconf" asking many fancy configuration questions... can someone confirm that debconf is supposed to be popping up during upgrade?
[18:09] <whiteeagle> it's out, eh?
[18:09] <bcnaat> Matrix|ab: flashplayer I mean, sorry. Can't get playback on anything flash in browsers
[18:09] <whiteeagle> happy hardy day!
[18:09] <rsc___> anyone know where i can get the torrent of the new version?
[18:09] <rwycuff> neeto: np glad to help
[18:09] <matrix|ab> resuming from suspension gives blue, red, white screens on i8600 dell
[18:09] <oddalot> my ati drivers do not work
[18:09] <hb> rsc___, /topic
[18:09] <oddalot> bahhhh
[18:09] <bcnaat> I also have no sound
[18:09] <giedrius> I tried to manually install ATI drivers, and when I login to ubuntu, the screen is all white, I can see and move the mouse cursor. What may be wrong?
[18:09] <rsc___> yes!
[18:10] <bcnaat> haven't worked on that one yet
[18:10] <idealab_loco> I've downloaded the 8.04LTS desktop edition in windows,How can I upgrade my ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 by using it.
[18:10] <oddalot> everything is wrong
[18:10] <oddalot> bahhhhh
[18:10] <idealab_loco> ?
[18:10] <vistakiller> try to install driver with envyng
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[18:10] <giedrius> but the login screen appears fine
[18:10] <repabil> Since I upgraded to hardy my desktop can't find my home partition. It say's fsck died with exit status 8
[18:10] <rwycuff> Destroyer: then best turn your attention to mangos forums
[18:10] <hb> rsc___, if ubuntu is loading to slowly do a search on www.thepiratebay.org; DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE RC
[18:10] <mrak> hello again .... any works repository for hardy
[18:10] <suxxor> how to start the apache server  ./apachectl -k start ?
[18:10] <suxxor> httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[18:10] <suxxor> httpd (pid 11420) already running
[18:10] <Destroyer> I did, don't get any answers there :-S
[18:10] <Pelo> digisus, during my upgrade to beta it was asking me if I wanted to keep certain files like /grub/menu.lst and such ,   are you sure he's not upgrading from a beta  ? in anycase tell him to use the new ones if that is it
[18:10] <northman> It's simpler to use xorg-x11-fglrx module
[18:10] <Pici> idealab_loco: You need to have downloaded the Alternate CD in order to do the upgrade, just put it in when Ubuntu is running it should prompt you to upgrade
[18:10] <MrObvious> God dang torrenting is killing my connection. lol
[18:11] <nick23> how can i restore my permissions across the whole filesystem? the original ones
[18:11] <fbc> How do I get to adjust my video card driver and monitor type in Hardy?
[18:11] <hb> Mrobvious, set a limit on your upload
[18:11] <Destroyer> So i thought maybe some experts here that can help me out with this error, its from my kernel .log and no mangos log
[18:11] <Zvezdichko> finally, downloaded all upgradable packets
[18:11] <Pici> nick23: You chmodded recursively from / ?
[18:11] <Pelo> MrObvious, 250 k/ps here for downlaod I can't max out my upload,  it will kill it
[18:11] <Stroganoff> if torrents are running slow your should look up PORT FORWARDING :p
[18:11] <Zvezdichko> and ubuntu will be upgraded till stable
[18:11] <MrObvious> No the torrents are fine, it's everything else. lol
[18:11] <rothchild> I've got a problem with gdm, I get an 'authentification failed' error message that I can get rid of, the only way to log out and log in again is to shutdown and restart I'm not sure where to start looking at how to fix this?
[18:11] <Pelo> Destroyer, can you repeat the error ? it's a busy channel , try being breif
[18:12] <Zvezdichko> is there any difference between upgrade/fresh install as a performance, packets and so on?
[18:12] <hb> Stroganoff, I think he's saying too many people are downloading from him
[18:12] <giedrius> has anyone else experienced white screen after manually installing ATI drivers?
[18:12] <Destroyer> [64063.268592] mangos-worldd[19329]: segfault at ffffffffff497ba0 rip ffffffffff497ba0 rsp 433d6d68 error 14
[18:12] <Pelo> Zvezdichko, there shouldnT' be
[18:12] <nick23> Pici: yes
[18:12] <Destroyer> Thanks for helping out
[18:12] <sparr_> how long until #ubuntu+1 reopens?
[18:12] <digisus> Pelo, he upgraded from directly from gutsy, no beta.
[18:12] <Comfortmeter> I have a dual boot computer. XP/ Ubuntu7.10 I had it all working. I got a bad ivrus and had to reinstall windows/ubuntu now im getting eroor 17 message. if i try to change ubuntu to boot i get a error 18 message. I think grub installed it self in the wrong partion??
[18:12] <BruceLozz> Ubuntu 64bits... old Flash problem. Any fix for this?
[18:12] <Pelo> geirha, it,s been mentionned   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:12] <murphyt> ok i tried acpi=off on one occasion and ide=nodma on a different occasion, neither of the worked for my "sqashfs" errors and "buffer i/o" errors, any other suggestions
[18:12] <Pici> nick23: Then you have broken your system, the only solution is to re-install.
[18:12] <jtravnick> anyone else doing an upgrade have a problem with network-manager?
[18:12] <rwycuff> Destroyer doesnt matter what logs its from stil issue with the mangos app and its not ubuntu issue
[18:12] <marx2k> Comfortmeter: Super Grub Rescue Disc
[18:13] <nick23> Pici: isnt there any other way to restore the original ones?
[18:13] <hb> pro....
[18:13] <nick23> \
[18:13] <hb> hey
[18:13] <dreamnid> BruceLozz: Try removing and installing flashplugin-nonfree
[18:13] <Pici> nick23: No
[18:13] <Mighty^^> almost all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[18:13] <hb> since you've already turned it into fubar, sudo rm -rf /
[18:13] <nick23> ok then how do i enable root user?
[18:13] <Gman99999> is there a scheduled ubuntu huge package update today besides the obvious distro upgrade?
[18:13] <Comfortmeter> I ran super grub.
[18:13] <rsc___>  ugh, my / is at 100% (excluding my home partition). where do I begin cleaning it up?
[18:13] <Pelo> digisus, what kind of msg ? about keeping old config files ? tell him to accept the new one unless he knows the file and has done some major editing
[18:13] <BruceLozz> Dreamnid: thanks, I'll try
[18:13] <rsc___> (which is really weird considering it's always been at 50% or so)
[18:13] <hb> most of us want to do it from time to time but we never grow the fortitude for it :(
[18:13] <Comfortmeter> It says the files can not be found to reinstall grub
[18:13] <BlueParrot> hmm, I got cloned screens working, how do I make it they work as a large desktop instead, is that in screen settings or the window manager ?
[18:13] <marx2k> Comfortmeter: tell it to look on a different partition ;)
[18:14] <jharkn> comfortmeter: I'm not an expert but http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm is good on grub
[18:14] <Pelo> rsc___, it you are upgrading , it needs to save the files somewhere
[18:14] <rsc___> Pelo, I havent began upgrading
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[18:14] <Comfortmeter> Can I use grub commands for this or?"? new to this
[18:14] <Pelo> rsc___, donT' know then
[18:14] <Gman99999> how do i turn off most of the even messages appearing in this chat?
[18:14] <Ertyle> !root | nick23
[18:14] <ubotu> nick23: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[18:14] <Dimacus> Does anyone know why the stuff i echo into /proc/acpi/ibm/* is overwritten a second later?
[18:14] <Destroyer> I['ts an error generated by ubuntu, i am only trying to figure out what such error means:
[18:14] <Destroyer> does anyone know what this error means: [64063.268592] mangos-worldd[19329]: segfault at ffffffffff497ba0 rip ffffffffff497ba0 rsp 433d6d68 error 14
[18:14] <rsc___> Pelo, I just deleted a few things from /var/log and it's still at 100%.. sigh i dont know whats "eating" my space
[18:15] <Pelo> Gman99999, xchat , right click the channel tab at the bottom
[18:15] <nick23> Ertyle: no i want to enable root
[18:15] <rsc___> can anyone help?
[18:15] <tv3skurt> I have tried everything to enable video overlay with ati drivers but it seems impossible any help please?
[18:15] <dystopianray> Destroyer: mangos-worldd segfaulted
[18:15] <Ertyle> nick23: that's not supported.
[18:15] <Dimacus> i need to manually control the fan speed, but something keeps reseting it to auto
[18:15] <Ertyle> nick23: why do you need to enable root?
[18:15] <digisus> Pelo, he was not asked about old config files (but the upgrade is not yet finished). Everything went as usual... after all packages were downloaded "deconf" opened and started asking detailled questions about system configuration stuff.
[18:15] <Destroyer> Thank you :-)
[18:15] <marx2k> !grub
[18:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:15] <Pelo> rsc___, mught not have been deleted,  check in /root/.local/share/Trash or in /root/.Trash
[18:15] <Pelo> rsc___, chift+del
[18:15] <rwycuff> Destroyer : do you see you are not getting answers this is because no one will support that app go to its source search for it on google if the writer of the app will not help nothing can be done
[18:16] <vvlaski> anyone know how i could get Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini-Card(xps1330)  to install on 804?
[18:16] <nick23> Ertyle: i just want to try
[18:16] <mrpoundsign> congrats on the release :)
[18:16] <rsc___> Pelo, I used rm -rf and those folders are empty :x
[18:16] <Gman99999> well that's alot better
[18:16] <Gman99999> pelo thanks
[18:16] <Emof> so why isn't the automatic update manager in gnome letting me download HH?
[18:16] <Pelo> rsc___, that's the only idea I have
[18:16] <Kl4m> !upgrade
[18:16] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:16] <Ertyle> nick23: there is no difference between having root enabled and just typing "sudo -i" to get into a root shell. it's the exact same thing, modulo the problems that having root enabled may cause on a distribution that wasn't designed for it.
[18:16] <grindhold>            
[18:16] <rothchild> I've got a problem with gdm, I get an 'authentification failed' error message that I can get rid of, the only way to log out and log in again is to shutdown and restart I'm not sure where to start looking at how to fix this?
[18:16] <ha-nocri> Hello. I've problem on ASUS notebook to install ATI XPress 1100 drivers on Hardy. When I install restricted driver, after reboot I've only blank screen at startup. Is it possible to install this driver?
[18:16] <jharkn> rsc: accessories --> disc usage manager?
[18:16] <Emof> thanks
[18:17] <vvlaski> anyone know how i could get Wireless 1505 Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini-Card(xps1330)  to install on 804?
[18:17] <Pelo> rothchild,search the error msg in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[18:17] <Destroyer> didnt had alot of help from you, but anyway thanks: rwycuff
[18:17] <Gman99999> I wonder if the new acpi upgrade fixes my hp laptop acpi problems with sound due to dual booting with windows
[18:17] <Hohlraum> jesus i can't believe they installed a version of firefox that isn't compatible with google browser sync ><
[18:17] <Pelo> !wifi > vvlaski check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[18:17] <r4d2> hello, i've got a problem with the new ubuntu 8.04 desktop CD (32bit), after choosing "Install Ubuntu" oder "Try Ubuntu" from the boot menu, it goes to a black screen with a blinking white dash in the top left corner and stays that way forever (system: acer 5114 with ati x1600 amd X2 and 3gb ram)
[18:17] <rsc___> anyone know where else i can look for help?
[18:17] <Emof> uhm... that upgrade page says nothing about 8.04
[18:17] <vvlaski> thanks pelo
[18:17] <ikonia> rsc___: help with what ?
[18:17] <zachb> Is everyone having trouble w/ apt & archive.ubuntu.com?
[18:17] <r0b> rsc___: what do you need help with?
[18:18] <Ertyle> r4d2: have you tried verifying the CD?
[18:18] <Pelo> Hohlraum, it's in beta , they had to or you would have been stuck with 2.2 until you next upgraded
[18:18] <tv3skurt> I have tried everything to enable video overlay with ati drivers but it seems impossible any help please?
[18:18] <Ertyle> zachb: use another mirror, archive.ubuntu.com is most certainly overloaded.
[18:18] <r4d2> burned it twice
[18:18] <Comfortmeter> Before ubuntu "really" installs theres a advanced options menu. It says grub will be installed to (hd0) is this right?? I read one form that stated that if you left it with default options it might install into the wrong spot.
[18:18] <r4d2> still the same
[18:18] <ad> hello , i will support the newbies too
[18:18] <Pelo> zachb,  it's release day,  all the servers are under heavy load , be patient
[18:18] <Ertyle> zachb: try for instance ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:18] <rsc___> ikonia, r0b, my / partition is at 100%. (this excludes my home folders.) whenever I delete something (in say /var/log), this doesn't change. this is strange because i'm usually at around 50% free space here
[18:18] <zachb> Ertyle: I try to, but there's always one that goes back
[18:18] <jharkn> hd0 is first hard disc
[18:18] <Ertyle> zachb: uh?
[18:18] <ikonia> rsc___: please show me the output of "df -h" in a pastebin please.
[18:18] <Emof> it's not possible to upgrade to 8.04 yet?
[18:19] <jharkn> so depends on your system and where its booting from
[18:19] <Pelo> Comfortmeter, hd0,0 is the boot sector of your boot hdd as per the bios
[18:19] <Kl4m> Emof: oops! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades
[18:19] <rsc___> sure ikonia, one moment
[18:19] <jharkn> check your biso for the boot order
[18:19] <mrpoundsign> rsc___: have you installed anything new? Sounds like something may be logging excessivly and creating a large log possibly?
[18:19] <Zvezdichko> everybody wants to upgrade today :)
[18:19] <ikonia> rsc___: note "in a pastebin"
[18:19] <zachb> Ertyle: my mirror's always been ubunut.media.mit.edu, and it still trys to go to archive.ubunutu.com
[18:19] <tv3skurt> Why does not accelerated ati driver support overlay ?
[18:19] <rsc___> http://pastebin.com/m4988a791
[18:19] <rwycuff> Destroyer: the only other help ive seen you get wwas being told to post it to thier bug reports when that happens they will look and see mangos-world whats this and discard it
[18:19] <tv3skurt> I am going nuts
[18:19] <ikonia> rsc___: got it
[18:19] <Fusoya> I take it we know why us.archive.ubuntu.com is down, heh
[18:19] <murphyt> ok i tried acpi=off on one occasion and ide=nodma on a different occasion, neither of the worked for my "sqashfs" errors and "buffer i/o" errors, any other suggestions
[18:19] <Pelo> tv3skurt, join the club , what,s the problem ?
[18:19] <Emof> ah, thanks :)
[18:19] <ad> anyone has a question for me ?
[18:19] <digisus> Hi ad, my friend is running an upgrade right now and after the packages were downloaded "debconf" started unexpectedly and started asking many config questions. Any idea why that happened?
[18:20] <rwycuff> Destroyer:mangos is illegal app for what its used for and this isnt good place to be asking for help
[18:20] <Ertyle> zachb: eh, use one of the *official* mirror, that is countryacronym.archive.ubuntu.com. change it in your /etc/apt/sources.list, for everything but the security repository
[18:20] <MrBill> Can anyone tell me how much a base install of hardy will consume in terms of disc space?
[18:20] <rsc___> ikonia, any ideas? :)0
[18:20] <ikonia> rsc___: from "/" please do. "sudo du -h -x"
[18:20] <zachb> Ertyle: k, thanks
[18:20] <ikonia> rsc___: look for "big" files"
[18:20] <DevLilJohn> MrBill, a few gigs
[18:20] <ricanelite> anyone here uses Compizgit?
[18:21] <gopp> hi I have 8.0.4 installed
[18:21] <fdkrew> does anyone have an torrent link for ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[18:21] <ad> digisus, hm he did not change the verbosity level somehow ? you can change this if you run a special command
[18:21] <Zvezdichko> fdkrew: see topic :)
[18:21] <r4d2> hello, i've got a problem with the new ubuntu 8.04 desktop CD (32bit), after choosing "Install Ubuntu", "Try Ubuntu" or even "Verify CD" from the boot menu, it goes to a black screen with a blinking white dash in the top left corner and stays that way forever (system: acer 5114 with ati x1600 amd X2 and 3gb ram)
[18:21] <r0b> fdkrew: /topic
[18:21] <marx2k> !torrent
[18:21] <gopp> how do I make 8.0.4 look like windows login prompt
[18:21] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[18:21] <gnuskool> i just installed hardy, on first boot i got an error saying ther kernel server cant run on my cpu? ne ideas?
[18:21] <fdkrew> thansk
[18:21] <ikonia> ad: depends on the command
[18:21] <marx2k> !torrents
[18:21] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[18:21] <Pelo> MrBill,  under 700 meg , for the OS itself, but if you want to know how much hdd space to set asside  5 gig iis a minimum
[18:21] <oriez> whats the link for the torrent live cd (DVD) i386 ubuntu 8.04
[18:21] <gopp> I have installed on my office workstation
[18:21] <MrBill> If someone wanted to install just for kicks and test a few things out, as far as seeing the speed that it runs on a particular system, would they be able to install on a 4gb drive?
[18:21] <digisus> ad: no. simply clicked the "upgrade" button and that's what happened. But debconf should not come up, should it?
[18:21] <Pelo> MrBill, scratch that ,  700 is the size of the install cd
[18:21] <rsc___> ikonia, okay, running that in the background. is there a way to look for files created in the last X days or something?
[18:21] <Pelo> Comfortmeter, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[18:21] <ikonia> rsc___: sure find can do that
[18:21] <ad> ikonia, run in terminal : sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf , choose "non interactive"
[18:21] <Beta-guy> I hear Ubuntu 8.04 is released is there a download that supports the PS3, or the cell processor?
[18:21] <wild_osca1> is file roller's drag'n'drop still broken in hardy?
[18:22] <gopp> but I need it to have windows login like theme prompt, and theme how do I do that
[18:22] <mik3> why is there no xubuntu-desktop metapackage anymore
[18:22] <gondim> hi all. sorry my english but. I have Ubuntu Server 7.10. I need to enable dapper-update in sources.list before upgrading?
[18:22] <DevLilJohn> fdkrew, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:22] <wild_osca1> I was trying to drag'n'drop to a nautilus window, but still can't!
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[18:22] <lch_> is it me or is it impossible to upgrade because of the huge traffic on the servers. the torrent tracker refuses connection and the update manager ran into a timeout...
[18:22] <tv3skurt> I think its really amazing that there is no overlay support with ati drivers !!!!
[18:22] <oddalot> lol floodbot was flooding
[18:22] <Pelo> gondim, no,  just run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:22] <stothepizzle> i'm updating
[18:22] <highvoltage> hey ompaul
[18:22] <r4d2> hello, i've got a problem with the new ubuntu 8.04 desktop CD (32bit), after choosing "Install Ubuntu" oder "Try Ubuntu" from the boot menu, it goes to a black screen with a blinking white dash in the top left corner and stays that way forever (system: acer 5114 with ati x1600 amd X2 and 3gb ram)
[18:22] <stothepizzle> its going super slow though
[18:22] <Riot777> anyone here know a status of LIRC GPIO module within hardy heron, is it buildable  or works some other way ?
[18:22] <gnuskool> i just installed hardy, on first boot i got an error saying ther kernel server cant run on my cpu? ne ideas?
[18:22] <gaurav__> can i upgrade 7.10 to 8.04 (desktop) using the same method as server?
[18:22] <Pelo> wild_osca1, it works here
[18:23] <murphyt> ok i tried acpi=off on one occasion and ide=nodma on a different occasion, neither of the worked for my "sqashfs" errors and "buffer i/o" errors, any other suggestions
[18:23] <fdkrew> DevLilJohne: the torrent link is not responding to my ktorrent
[18:23] <Beta-guy> I hear Ubuntu 8.04 is released is there a download that supports the PS3, or the cell processor?
[18:23] <Pelo> gnuskool, what kernel did you install ? and what is your cpu ?
[18:23] <DevLilJohn> gaurav yes
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[18:23] <wild_osca1> Pelo: to a folder with "view as list"?
[18:23] <gaurav__> thank you DevLilJohn
[18:23] <Pelo> Beta-guy, we donT' know yet
[18:23] <DevLilJohn> fdkrew it just worked for me like 2 min ago
[18:23] <rsc___> Pelo, got it. var/cache/apt is 3GB :p
[18:23] <Pelo> wild_osca1, haven't tried that
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[18:23] <StealthCP> Beta-guy, no, PowerPC suport is still supported with Ubuntu 6.06 though.
[18:23] <kittyn-> i downloaded the i386 iso from torrents, and Im already running gutsy, is there a way to upgrade using this iso image? like the same way a dist-upgrade would?
[18:23] <fdkrew> ok ill try agein
[18:23] <wild_osca1> Pelo: try it then ;)
[18:23] <fdkrew> thanks
[18:23] <Pelo> rsc___, shoudl I have tought of that
[18:23] <gopp> wild_osca1 do you were  I can get a windows xp like theme for ubuntu
[18:23] <gnuskool> pelo, its a server install, not sure kernel number, but i got thinkpad r51 cpu
[18:23] <gondim> Pelo, I would like using do-release-upgrade -d?
[18:24] <rsc___> Pelo, thanks! :)
[18:24] <oriez> hi pelo what's do you know if they released the Live CD
[18:24] <Beta-guy> stealthCP: why is powerpc support dropped?
[18:24] <oriez> *what's up
[18:24] <jharkn> kittyn-: if you use the alt cd afaik
[18:24] <Dimacus> can anyone tell me why something seems to reset all changes i make to the fanspeed via /proc/acpi/ibm/fan?
[18:24] <Pelo> wild_osca1, no problems
[18:24] <matrix|ab> what should i do if my nvidia card is really old (go5200) .. restricted driver manager doesnt work for me
[18:24] <wild_osca1> gopp: don't know, I've made mine OS leopard
[18:24] <StealthCP> I'm not 100% sure, it's down to lack of interest and maintenance really
[18:24] <gondim> Pelo, sorry. Can I using do-release-upgrade -d?
[18:24] <Pelo> gnuskool, I meant what didyou install   amd64 or i386 ? and on what cpu
[18:24] <StealthCP> As Macs are now Intel based, the need for PowerPC based distros has dropped considerably.
[18:24] <oddalot> is anyone here able to download files from synaptic or apt-get? i can't get anything
[18:24] <Cirilo> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:24] <gnuskool> pelo, i386
[18:25] <Vicfred> hi, im trying to update to hardy heron from the RC but the update manager is not displaying the update i already downloaded the iso via torrent can i use it to update?
[18:25] <Pelo> gondim, not sure
[18:25] <kittyn-> jharkn: i have to use the alt cd and not the main cd?
[18:25] <gopp> any one got a windows xp theme for ubuntu
[18:25] <StealthCP> Beta-guy: you'd probably be better off going for a distro that fully supports the PS3 like YDL or Fedora - this way you can't go wrong
[18:25] <oriez> Live CD torrent? anyone...
[18:25] <gondim> Pelo, thanks :)
[18:25] <ubuntuROX> Vicfred you are probally already updated
[18:25] <jharkn> kittyn-: I'm no expert but that's what I hear
[18:25] <Pelo> gnuskool, that one should install on most PC , try booting the recovery mode
[18:25] <ad> gopp, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[18:25] <ubuntuROX> run sudo grub-update
[18:25] <jharkn> kittyn-: don't take my word for it :)
[18:26] <Beta-guy> I tried ubuntu on the PS3 b4, and I loved it, the updating program was great, that's why I was hoping to use Ubuntu
[18:26] <beex> would anybody have a good reference for music players that work on the terminal?
[18:26] <tv3skurt> please help i am desperate to get ati overlay to work i can't stand the vsync tearing.
[18:26] <legend24> where is hal-device-manager (Hardware Information) in hardy?
[18:26] <beex> I'm looking for something that plays flac, but an having a hard time :-/
[18:26] <kittyn-> thanks jharkn!
[18:26] <Riot777> anybody know if "they" fixed in hardy heron lirc gpio building issue?
[18:26] <kittyn-> Ill probably wait
[18:26] <Pelo> tv3skurt, check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[18:26] <kittyn-> until I can use dist-upgrade
[18:26] <jharkn> kittyn-:  np :)
[18:26] <kittyn-> dont want to mess anything up
[18:26] <Vicfred> ubuntuROX>ic ic i though that could be a possibility, is there a way to know it?
[18:26] <kittyn-> =(
[18:26] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  on tv out?
[18:26] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: no
[18:26] <Pelo> legend24, I donT think it is installed by default anymore,  look in synaptic , gnome system info I think
[18:26] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i have tried totem and vlc both have the same issue
[18:27] <rwycuff> beex: mpg123 for in term
[18:27] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  what card?
[18:27] <ubuntuROX> If you ran beta, or RC and still show development,, run  sudo grub-update to fix it.
[18:27] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: x1950pro
[18:27] <legend24> Pelo: ok ty
[18:27] <Jobias> hey, were there changes made to hardy so that you can't use sudo dkpg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-org to add screen resolutions to ubuntu?
[18:27] <lch_> why is bittorrent so slow... 1st it uses about 8 minutes to start downloading the Hardy CD and then it only uses about 1/5th of the available downstream..
[18:27] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  driver?
[18:27] <doug2266778822> how do i disable the mouse pointer from switching to the next window when it gets close to it?
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[18:27] <BlueParrot> does hardy support any dual screen configuration other than "clone screens" ? because it doesn't seem to for me
[18:27] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i am going crazy over here and because there is no overlay it gets extremely pixelated too.
[18:27] <ad> BlueParrot,  shure
[18:27] <jrabbit> Eh studio is 1.0 gb
[18:27] <v0lksman> BlueParrot: card?
[18:27] <BlueParrot> I guess it could be the Intel graphics card that doesn't
[18:27] <jrabbit> not worth it
[18:27] <psymin> anyone on Hardy using amd64 and iwl3945 .. if you have it working please enlighten me :)
[18:27] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: intel graphics does
[18:27] <ad> psymin, working here
[18:28] <Pelo> ich_ the tracker is over loaded and give it time ,  also throttle down your upload speed a bit
[18:28] <BlueParrot> v0lksman, X3400 iirc
[18:28] <mut80r> psymin: you mean ipw3945 ?
[18:28] <v0lksman> tv2skurt:  which driver are you using?
[18:28] <BlueParrot> v0lksman, intel
[18:28] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i have tried  aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv but it does not make any difference
[18:28] <psymin> mut80r: iwl3945
[18:28] <BassFreak> does hardy crash for anybody else too when playing mp3 with movie player?
[18:28] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: xorg-driver-fglrx
[18:28] <psymin> ad: what did you have to do to get iwl3945 working on amd64 version of hardy?
[18:28] <Pelo> later folls
[18:28] <ad> psymin,  mut80r  i think i have ipw3945 , tahts the wireless driver is it
[18:28] <v0lksman> tv2skurt:  have you tried installing the ATI driver?
[18:28] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: yes
[18:29] <mrpoundsign> BassFreak: you mean the entire OS crashes?
[18:29] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, how do I make it use the second screen to extend the desktop? at the moment it only wants to clone the output, even if I uncheck the "clone screen" box in resolution settings
[18:29] <ltracy__> psymin, I got the compat-wireless package, and that made it work for me.  I am not running amd64, however
[18:29] <v0lksman> tv2skurt:  same thing?
[18:29] <jtravnick> BassFreak, i wouldnt know since the upgrade has locked up my desktop
[18:29] <psymin> is ipw3945 in hardy?
[18:29] <wild_osca1> wtf...drag'n'droping out of file roller still doesn't work here
[18:29] <zachb> My friend's having trouble w/ the new version, he has an atheros wireless card, it says its supported, but its not showing up in the network manager
[18:29] <beex> rwycuff, how does it compare to cplay?
[18:29] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx i used that and then enabled it in hardware drivers
[18:29] <DrusT> hi
[18:29] <psymin> ad: is ipw3945 in hardy?
[18:29] <rwycuff> beex:ive never used cdplay
[18:29] <Asgaroth> how do i set hotkeys with enligthenment(e16)?
[18:29] <DrusT> someone know a mirror for .torrent files of Hardy Heron ?
[18:29] <ProwL> beex: i myself use cmus
[18:29] <Pici> psymin: no. its iwl3945 now
[18:30] <ad> psymin, argh sorry, that was on my laptop (3945)
[18:30] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: it says ATI accelerated graphics driver enabled in use
[18:30] <maco> DrusT: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[18:30] <Vicfred> my pidgin is freezing up after a few seconds I ran it, how do I fix it?
[18:30] <BassFreak> mrpoundsign, everything locks up but mouse moves
[18:30] <rwycuff> beex: mpg123 is just simple command
[18:30] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  try downloading and installing Envy and use it to install the ATI drivers.  It worked for my x700 but ultimately I have dropped ATI from my machine due to crappy drivers
[18:30] <ad> psymin, here i got an atheros pci card
[18:30] <psymin> ad: cool thanks
[18:30] <DrusT> thanks macd
[18:30] <tv3skurt> v0lksman:ok never heard of envy
[18:30] <DrusT> maco*
[18:30] <maco> psymin: iwl3945 is hardy's driver for that
[18:30] <beex> rwycuff, should be all I need for now, although I'll probably keep looking for something that uses ncurses
[18:30] <BassFreak> mrpoundsign, can't do anything cntrl+alt+f2 does nothing and so does cntrl+alt+backspace
[18:30] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  correction, envyng...envy is the old version
[18:30] <stojic> beex: moc is a nice one
[18:30] <beex> ProwL, I'll give smurf a try too
[18:31] <maco> psymin: it works well, and its not in the restricted manager because it's open source this time
[18:31] <Andy_Chicago> anyone know of a US based vendor selling 8.04 DVD?
[18:31] <ltracy__> psymin, you might try this.  It worked for me.  http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Download
[18:31] <beex> so many music players!
[18:31] <ProwL> beex: i love it. its themeable, and supprts my flac and etc!
[18:31] <_xaos_> hi
[18:31] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: so when it is installed overlay will work ?
[18:31] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  it's a great app that cleans up a lot of the mess of installing third party vid drivers from ATI or NVidia
[18:31] <chris062689> Andy_Chicago: shipit provides free CDs
[18:31] <rwycuff> beex:ncurces ok but playlist and mpg123 always works greeat for me
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[18:31] <Dgro> Hi
[18:31] <jdrake> What would be the 'recommended' system requirements for the main Ubuntu release? Right now my brother uses a P2-400 running xubuntu. If that would not be enough would a P3-733 or Duron900 likely do it?
[18:31] <neeto> Alright it says that 218 packages are going to be removed, 113 packages are going to be installed and 685 packages are going to upgraded. I DO NOT want any packages to be removed...
[18:32] <oriez> Live CD torrent? anyone...
[18:32] <ad> jdrake,  i am running it @ quadcore with 8gb ram at the moment , runs great
[18:32] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: so when it is installed overlay will work ?
[18:32] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  I can't say for sure but I didn't have an issue with it on my x700....I've used (fought) with a lot of ATI cards and eventually get them to work but they aren't fun
[18:32] <jdrake> ad, I bet it does :-)
[18:32] <JasonF> I still say this release should have been Hungry Hippo
[18:32] <Citizen1> I just finished upgrading, but now I get an error "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error" when logging in
[18:32] <Citizen1> And my desktop doesn't appear
[18:32] <maco> oriez: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[18:32] <rwycuff> cmus does look nice
[18:32] <Andy_Chicago> I wanted the DVD with all the extras. On dialup its hard to download that stuff after install from the basic CD
[18:32] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: ok i have installed it how do i run it ?
[18:32] <Kevin`> wat this mean?
[18:32] <Kevin`> [48900.456000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: host controller process error, something bad happened!
[18:32] <Kevin`> [48900.456000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: host controller halted, very bad!
[18:32] <rsc___> wow. I cant connect to my local .archive.ubuntu.com. haha
[18:32] <ProwL> jdrake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[18:32] <Kevin`> [48900.456000] uhci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: HC died; cleaning up
[18:32] <FloodBot1> Kevin`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[18:33] <pen> hi
[18:33] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  its under system tools iirc
[18:33] <pen> where is ubuntu+1?
[18:33] <ionstorm> JasonF, hungry hippo is a great name, would have made a nice logo
[18:33] <pen> it disappeared
[18:33] <beex> BassFreak,  mgedmin was having a similar issue, I'm not sure what the cause was though.
[18:33] <maco> neeto: run with -s to simulate it.  theyre probably ones that are being replaced
[18:33] <ionstorm> lol
[18:33] <jharkn> hahaha hungry hippo
[18:33] <psymin> ltracy__: Thanks, I'll pass that along to my buddy on amd64 hardy
[18:33] <sig_wall> pen: it happened :)
[18:33] <Beererde> hi - is it possible to update ubuntu using bittorrent? the servers are under heavy load
[18:33] <neeto> maco: doesn't seem so... compiz looks like it's getting killed, so does bind9 and ALL my networking crap... NO THANKS
[18:33] <beex> pen, Hardy is now official... woot
[18:33] <v0lksman> pen:  here...its no longer +1  :)
[18:33] <jrabbit> Beererde: yes
[18:33] <pen> :)
[18:33] <Beererde> jrabbit: how?
[18:33] <pen> cool
[18:33] <jrabbit> mount the iso
[18:33] <BassFreak> beex, what was the fix ? ;)
[18:34] <pen> finally I can chat here now
[18:34] <beex> does that mean that gusty is now ubuntu-1?
[18:34] <pen> lol
[18:34] <jrabbit> and dist-upgrade
[18:34] <n6rej> is it me or are the mirrors down to a crawl?
[18:34] <beex> BassFreak,  don't know the fix either
[18:34] <Citizen1> "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when attempting to register the file manager view server."
[18:34] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i dont have any system tools menu
[18:34] <pen> I have a problem with my session
[18:34] <Citizen1> Help? :(
[18:34] <v0lksman> n6rej...yep
[18:34] <mut80r> n6rej: the servers are under heavy load
[18:34] <Beererde> n6rej: they are. i am trying to use bittorrent now, but i do not now how
[18:34] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: I have dual monitor setup on my intel graphics right now
[18:34] <sn0rlax> could someone dcc me the server-i386 torrent?
[18:34] <neeto> oh fuck upgrading right now.
[18:34] <beex> BassFreak, I just remember seeing it... sorry :-/
[18:34] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: I set it up using xrandr on a terminal
[18:34] <ubuntu-user> hello can somebody help me with ryhtmbox. i will convert a audio cd but it is only possiple to convert it in ogg can i change it i will convert it in mp3
[18:34] <chris062689> !language | neeto
[18:34] <ubotu> neeto: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[18:34] <n6rej> Beererde: so far I haven't found a torrent for 8
[18:34] <jrabbit> Beererde: i don't know the comand to loop mount it
[18:34] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  Applications -> System Tools -> Envyng
[18:34] <lch_> sn0rlax: how about the link in /topic?
[18:34] <pen> in session options I clicked "Remember Currently Running Applications" and now the checkbox in startup programs doesn't work anymore
[18:34] <Beererde> n6rej: mee too..
[18:35] <n6rej> neeto: watch ur language plz
[18:35] <pen> how do I reverse this?
[18:35] <mgedmin> BassFreak: ctrl+alt+Fx doesn't work for me, but ctrl+alt+backspace does
[18:35] <mgedmin> must be a different issue
[18:35] <jdrake> ProwL: That link gives indications for installation, but I am primarily interested if his P2-400 can actually run the full gnome desktop.
[18:35] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: no system tools menu in the applications menu
[18:35] <BassFreak> mgedmin, does your mouse work then
[18:35] <neeto> LOL this is retarded
[18:35] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  how did you install envyng?
[18:35] <mgedmin> yes
[18:35] <n6rej> jdrake: yeah it can... what exactly do you want it to do?
[18:36] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: in the command line
[18:36] <BassFreak> mgedmin, then it's were similar problem
[18:36] <pen> anyone know session?
[18:36] <mut80r> Ubuntu 8.04 burned to disc, rebooting and installing ;)
[18:36] <sn0rlax> lch_: wget took me several minutes to tell me 404, so i wasn't even going to attempt to bring up the page in a browser....
[18:36] <Dgro> I can't do plugins and downloads!
[18:36] <v0lksman> from the repos in hardy?
[18:36] <ProwL> jdrake: im sure it can run it, but it wont perform exceptionally well.
[18:36] <BlueParrot> uhm, is grandr broken ?
[18:36] <sn0rlax> lch_: ( I know I have the wrong url )
[18:36] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: sudo apt-get install envyng-core
[18:36] <BlueParrot> i.e, shoudl it normally work ?
[18:36] <maco> neeto: O_O
[18:36] <jdrake> I will stick to XFCE then.
[18:36] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  did you also get envyng-gtk?
[18:36] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: hardy/universe it says.
[18:36] <n6rej> There are lots of things that can be done to make that p2 sing like a jet
[18:36] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: try xrandr
[18:36] <lch_> sn0rlax: try again. the torrent is small and it worked for me to get it
[18:36] <n6rej> yep, thats the biggest :D
[18:36] <BassFreak> how to make hardy remember volume setting in the mixer? every time I boot it's set to defaults
[18:37] <sn0rlax> lch_: happen to know the full url?
[18:37] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: no that was huge 103mb
[18:37] <dystopianray> BassFreak: sudo alsactl store
[18:37] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  you need it...its the frontend
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[18:37] <lch_> sn0rlax: the topic of this channel has it :-)  http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[18:37] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: sorry that was the envyng-qt
[18:37] <n6rej> lch_: tyvm!!
[18:38] <sn0rlax> lch_: i tried the url from the topic...
[18:38] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  gtk may be almost as big but it is necessary to run it...
[18:38] <Divot> hi, does anyone know if hardy can support three monitors with two graphics cards?
[18:38] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, it seems to claim i can't set a large enough display size
[18:38] <ad> LOL, i entered "mp3" in the search dialog and it responded : "did you mean MP1? "
[18:38] <chris062689> Is there a channel for Python w/ GNOME development?
[18:38] <sn0rlax> lch: gave me 404. n/m the page finally came up in links, i'll get it from there
[18:38] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i have the accelerated driver installed should i remove it ?
[18:38] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, "user selected display size larger than maximum display size"
[18:38] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: what does it say your maximum is?
[18:38] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, same as the largest screen it seems
[18:38] <doug2266778822> how do i disable the mouse pointer from switching to the next window when it gets close to it?
[18:38] <neeto> I am going to kill someone if this gets rid of my compiz install
[18:38] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: which is?
[18:38] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  uhm...good question...may want to check the faq on the envy web site...but I think it handles it all for you
[18:38] <BlueParrot> 1280x1024
[18:38] <marx2k> (This is why I let others play with Hardy a week before I try it out)
[18:39] <northman> Is it possible to upgrade to 8.04 release version from 8.04 RC (AMD64)? Is apt source ready now?
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[18:39] <BlueParrot> uhm, it's even weirder
[18:39] <Gistybit> i've installed a 32 bit version of firefox, but when trying to save a file i get a gnome-vfs error, since it tries to load the 64bit library instead of the 32bit library in /usr/lib32 .. (...)libfile.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64). How do i make it call the 32 bit library?
[18:39] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: ah that's not good at all, at least on mine I'm doing 1680x1050, so I can do two 800x600 displays
[18:39] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, "maximum 1280 x 1280"
[18:39] <pen> northman: I believe RC is already 8.04 release after all the updates
[18:39] <marx2k> northman: if apt-get contains no more updates, you're already at final
[18:39] <BlueParrot> why is that ?
[18:39] <jepe> Bonsoir à tous !
[18:39] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: did u have to do anything else to get a real overlay with no vsync tearing ?
[18:39] <v0lksman> tv3skurt: Envy will do it for you. However if you want to uninstall the driver, nothing bad will happen ;)
[18:39] <ubuntuROX> If you ran beta, or RC and still show development but it finds no updates,, run  sudo grub-update then reboot to fix it.
[18:39] <BlueParrot> is it the card that limits it ?
[18:39] <pen> in session options I clicked "Remember Currently Running Applications" and now the checkbox in startup programs doesn't work anymore
[18:39] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: driver limitation
[18:39] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, oh
[18:40] <BassFreak> mgedmin, it only happens when using movie player. If I use rhytmbox it works so codeds seem to work. probably a glitch in movieplayer
[18:40] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, why does the drive limit it ?
[18:40] <dystopianray> BlueParrot: no idea
[18:40] <ubuntuROX> northman If you ran beta, or RC and still show development but it finds no updates,, run  sudo grub-update then reboot to fix it.
[18:40] <northman> Thanks all, but the title in GRUB still has a "development branch" tag
[18:40] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: seems to go extremely slow now to connect to archive.ubuntu.com
[18:40] <Dgro> BB
[18:40] <northman> got it
[18:40] <jl-satyr> can anyone give me the md5sum hash for the i386 desktop iso?
[18:40] <ubuntuROX> :)
[18:40] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  Honestly I can't recall.  Like I said I used a couple different ATI cards across 5 different Ubuntu releases now...What I do know is I will likely never buy another ATI card.... :)
[18:40] <NeoGeo64> is 20gb enough hdd space to allocate for ubuntu?
[18:41] <NeoGeo64> between 15 and 20gb
[18:41] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  yeah....that's just due to the number of crazy fools trying to get hardy... :)
[18:41] <maco> northman: sudo update-grub
[18:41] <Tabris-> hello
[18:41] <magicrobotmonkey> whats the launch party channel?
[18:41] <whiteflag> hi
[18:41] <Tabris-> i'm a noob in ubuntu
[18:41] <Tabris-> and i have a system that suports 64bits
[18:41] <maco> magicrobotmonkey: #ubuntu-release-party
[18:41] <darthanubis> !kernel
[18:41] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[18:41] <magicrobotmonkey> maco: ty
[18:41] <Noiano> salve
[18:41] <ubuntuROX> Man,, I spent hours trying to figure that one out
[18:41] <Tabris-> should i use 64bits ubuntu or the 86 one?
[18:41] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, found it : http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_950#External_VGA_port_with_XRandR
[18:41] <BlueParrot> dystopianray, xorg.conf messing
[18:41] <darthanubis> which kernel is Hardy using?
[18:42] <n6rej> wow, nobody is seeding?
[18:42] <Tabris-> i've heand some programs don't work well in 64bits
[18:42] <northman> I'm so stupid.
[18:42] <maco> darthanubis: 2.6.24
[18:42] <Beererde> n6rej: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:42] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i tink if the general public is ever going to adopt ubuntu we need to have working video overlay out of the box.
[18:42] <darthanubis> macd, -16?
[18:42] <n6rej> Beererde:  got it!
[18:42] <darthanubis> maco, -16?
[18:42] <Noiano> guys I need to download the dvd version...where do I get that (torrent) ?
[18:42] <ubuntuROX> dont feel bad,, me too
[18:42] <n6rej> Beererde: just its not seeding :(
[18:42] <OllieA> Hey, I have Ubuntu 8.04 and  the only screen resolution I can choose is 860x600 but I want 1000 or something, how?
[18:42] <maco> Tabris-: flash is a bit tricky to get going on 64bit, java too maybe, dont think there's any wine or crossover or cedega on 64...other than that...
[18:42] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  I can tell you that the only ATI card I couldn't get to stop tearing was a mobile card in my laptop.
[18:42] <Beererde> n6rej: ok.. can i use this to update a 7 version?
[18:42] <ubuntuROX> I even downloaded it to try an update with cd checked
[18:43] <jimcooncat> tv3skurt: does the general public know what a video overlay is? Sorry to be numb, but I don't
[18:43] <jms1989> Is the repositories down for maintenance? I'm trying to download a few packages but it won't connect.
[18:43] <OllieA> 1024x768 res I want
[18:43] <n6rej> Beererde: no, just go to the front page and follow the upgrade steps... its much easier that way
[18:43] <whiteflag> hum... a small question : I can't refresh the "deposits" (sorry, I am french...) Is it normal ?
[18:43] <Tabris-> [maco]: no wine? So it's 86 =p
[18:43] <Wrath> Yea I'm having issues with the tracker for the alternate cd torrent
[18:43] <ConstyXIV> jms1989, they're a molten pile of slag at the moment :)
[18:43] <Beererde> n6rej: yes, but not working because the servers are down :/
[18:43] <tv3skurt> jmcooncat: they will surely see the extreme tearing and pixelation in videos just because there is no video overlay.
[18:43] <jharkn> whiteflag: heavy server load
[18:43] <n6rej> Beererde: that really sucks LOL
[18:43] <ConstyXIV> everyone: don't expect updates to work for now
[18:43] <tv3skurt> jmcooncat: and slow framerate
[18:43] <maco> Tabris-: i dont use wine...
[18:43] <Beererde> n6rej: it does...
[18:44] <whiteflag> ok thx jharkn
[18:44] <jimcooncat> tv3skurt: ok, I don't do much video. thanks
[18:44] <tv3skurt> ok
[18:44] <Tabris-> does ubuntu 8.04 reads and writes ntfs partitions by default
[18:44] <jms1989> Crap. I'm glad its not just me.
[18:44] <jharkn> np
[18:44] <dystopianray> Tabris-: yes
[18:44] <gnuskool> whiteflag: they are very busy right now
[18:44] <kostkon> Tyes
[18:44] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  the biggest problem with your comment is this has nothing to do with Ubuntu or GNU in general.  Your complaint should go to your card manufacturer (ATI) and they should provide decent drivers for GNU....I recently switched to NVidia cards and have had nothing but success in anything I try (including dual display with Compiz enabled).
[18:44] <kostkon> ooops!
[18:44] <sacamano> wow, serious kudos to canonical and all the developers with wubi. i am blown away
[18:44] <Doubletwist-> Is suspend/hibernate still broken when using the ATI 3D drivers [on a Radeon 200M]?
[18:44] <dystopianray> Tabris-: the latest release or two did as well
[18:44] <stothepizzle> how do i change my sudoers file so that my sudo session is only maintained for one minute?
[18:44] <jharkn> it doesn't write does it?
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[18:45] <jharkn> I thought only read
[18:45] <ConstyXIV> i would try going into "Software Sources", and pick either a) a close mirror, or b) one in a timezone where everyone's asleep :)
[18:45] <TerryYaki> Hey, is there a reason why my network monitor shows constant network activity when I'm not (knowingly) downloading anything?
[18:45] <Odd-rationale> jharkn: write/read
[18:45] <soulwarp> jharkn both
[18:45] <dystopianray> stothepizzle: check out the sudoers man page
[18:45] <OllieA> How do I get a screen res that I cannot choose by default
[18:45] <n6rej> Beererde: check the page, maybe you can update from the cd?
[18:45] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  there is a lot of topics relating to this on the forums cause its an ongoing issue with ATI in general.  They are terrible at keeping up with their support...
[18:45] <bullgard4> Can one explain the sentence: "Also check all handlers each timer interrupt." of /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documentation/kernel-paramters.txt to me?
[18:45] <sotap> Noiano: Look for it at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[18:45] <n6rej> Beererde: least its finally seeding now
[18:45] <gnuskool> stothepizzle: isint that the policykit they going on about is for?
[18:45] <Beererde> n6rej: yes.. somehow specify it as source...
[18:45] <jharkn> fair do's
[18:45] <Ax3> finally
[18:45] <Ax3> bittorrent is ramping up speed
[18:45] <jharkn> ty
[18:45] <jondowd> I love my working here a oregonstate. I'm next door to the opensource labs and DL'd my ISO in less that 3 min!
[18:45] <Ax3> 10mbit+ :D
[18:45] <stothepizzle> i might wait till my hardy upgrade is finished
[18:45] <cain297> hey guys - any idea when 8.04 VMWare image will be available - it's not up yet at http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/
[18:45] <zorros> Ax3: preved
[18:45] <Ax3> zorros, ?
[18:46] <ConstyXIV> i'm seeding at max capacity
[18:46] <zorros> stothepizzle: kagdila?
[18:46] <Doubletwist> I'm pushing outbound 4mbit on bittorrent [both desktop isos]
[18:46] <dystopianray> bullgard4: you'll probably have better luck in #linux or a similar channel
[18:46] <zorros> How to get Ubuntu working?
[18:46] <ConstyXIV> only 1Mbit out here :(
[18:46] <OllieA> How can I get new screen res options in 8.04?
[18:46] <Ax3> yea i've got a server im getting ready to see it on for everybody, 100mbit FD, not much, but it'll help the swarm :)
[18:46] <Ax3> seed*
[18:46] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: yes it is very sad that things are not working well i mean its not disaster if the 3d acceleration is not working but the 2d and overlays should be working perfectly i mean it is 2008.
[18:46] <jms1989> Where is that torrent? I'd like to download it.
[18:46] <ConstyXIV> we need some of those people with symetrical FiOS connections to seed
[18:46] <Ax3> /topic
[18:46] <bullgard4> dystopianray: Are Ubunteros no Linux users?
[18:47] <OllieA> How can I get new screen res options in 8.04?
[18:47] <wild_oscar> does anyone know how to configure wireless? I can't seem to ping my network devices, even though internet works fine
[18:47] <twistage> Anyone have a problem with Static noises coming out of your speakers at random moments in Hardy?
[18:47] <ConstyXIV> OllieA, iirc, it's sys -> admin -> screens and graphics
[18:47] <Doubletwist> Not sure why it's not seeding at a full 10mbps... :/ :(
[18:47] <ronzo> anyone having problems installing?
[18:47] <seledec> me dice que 11 horas para descrgar los archivos
[18:47] <ConstyXIV> Doubletwist, your ISP?
[18:47] <Beererde> hah i get 800 kb/s now for the torrent :)
[18:47] <ronzo> *installing packages
[18:47] <jondowd> OllieA: From a teminal run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[18:48] <Doubletwist> ConstyXIV: It's from a hosted server in a datacenter
[18:48] <Pici> !es | seledec
[18:48] <ubotu> seledec: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[18:48] <ConstyXIV> ah
[18:48] <milly1234> for some reaon I couldn't even download the torrent link in the topic
[18:48] <Beererde> 1.4 mb/s ... it works, just takes a while
[18:48] <hardy64> Isn't the GDM login screen resolution determined by the first item listed under display in xorg.conf? My screen resolution on GDM is not right
[18:48] <proq> Doubletwist: either you're being throttled, using all your bandwidth elsewhere, or no one needs to download that much
[18:48] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  completely agree.. :)  If the driver Envy installs doesn't work for you you are SOL...but I'm pretty sure it will...I used my little x700 for 2 years before buying my 8600GT....I do a LOT of video stuff on my PC (MythTV, Divx, Vid editing etc)...Didn't have any issue with the ATI driver for that in particular...
[18:48] <Doubletwist> Probably the drive is too busy reading and writing.
[18:48] <jharkn> I dl'd the beta at 1.5MB/s 8-)
[18:48] <gribouille> hi
[18:48] <gribouille> is hardy released or not ?
[18:49] <hardy64> it is
[18:49] <jharkn> not not
[18:49] <kristian42> I just reinstalled a64 because I thought my beta was borked. Turns out desktop hangs after login even on ac clean install. Suggestions ?
[18:49] <gribouille> why is there no press release ?
[18:49] <Beererde> gribouille: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:49] <Ax3> ready the topic
[18:49] <Ax3> /topic
[18:49] <jondowd> gribouille: yes it is
[18:49] <Ax3> read*
[18:49] <Ax3> heheheh
[18:49] <ConstyXIV> try these: ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/ for the torrents
[18:49] <jms1989> It has been added.
[18:49] <jondowd> gribouille: visit www.ubuntu.com
[18:50] <milly1234> I heard that 8.04 was going to have a install/upgrade feature that would not erase the home folder if it was on the same partition as the main system, is this true?
[18:50] <Gistybit> i've installed a 32 bit version of firefox, but when trying to save a file i get a gnome-vfs error, since it tries to load the 64bit library instead of the 32bit library in /usr/lib32 .. (...)libfile.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64). How do i make it call the 32 bit library?
[18:50] <Frozenball> I would like to say that this new Ubuntu is just plainly awesome
[18:50] <ConstyXIV> that mirror's a torrent-only, so it should handle more of a beating
[18:50] <mgedmin> milly1234: all versions of ubuntu don't erase your home folder on upgrades
[18:50] <ubuntuROX> its been pretty awesome for the last month or so
[18:50] <jms1989> Hehe, it should be done in 3 and a half hours. :)
[18:51] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: everything installed but still no working overlay
[18:51] <milly1234> mgedmin, great news for me :) thank you, i didn't know that
[18:51] <v0lksman> you will need to reboot for the new driver to take effect
[18:51] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i have rebooted
[18:51] <dystopianray> Frozenball: I agree, it's much better than 7.10
[18:51] <lesjohn> anyone tried the powerpc version?  i'm not sure whether to upgrade now or wait for a few weeks
[18:51] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  oh...well crap...hahaha
[18:51] <proq> Doubletwist: your hard drive can handle it if it's less than 15 years old
[18:51] <ronzo> hehe. seeding time!
[18:51] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: i am desperate
[18:51] <jondowd> dystopianray: what do you like more now?
[18:51] <Doubletwist> proq: you would think :)
[18:51] <ubuntuROX> both of the betas I have used,, gutsy, and this one have been better than that other companies final release products.
[18:52] <hja_elightsey> Can someone message me. I'm using a new IRC client and want to see what it looks like
[18:52] <dystopianray> jondowd: pardon?
[18:52] <ConstyXIV> hja_elightsey, sorta like this
[18:52] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  that's kinda surprising...........
[18:52] <jondowd> dystopianray: just wonderin' what your opinion is on what's improved.
[18:52] <LannyC> hey can anyone help me with a hardy heron install issue?
[18:52] <hja_elightsey> ConstyXIV yea thats cool... i'm using Irssi and making some changes
[18:53] <kristian42> Has anyone seen any reports of desktop not starting (after login) on A64 ?
[18:53] <proq> kristian42: this has happened to me
[18:53] <dystopianray> jondowd: oh, well i've been using kubuntu and a whole swath of little niggling issues are now gone, also more importantly suspend is working reliably again, suspend was relaly messed up in 7.10 for me
[18:53] <dfgas> is there any other mirrors that i can get the 64bit from?
[18:53] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  trying to remember how you see what features are enabled with aticonfig
[18:53] <kristian42> proq: Find any solution ?
[18:53] <Pici> !mirrors | dfgas
[18:53] <ubotu> dfgas: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[18:53] <BlueParrot> \o/
[18:53] <proq> kristian42: I installed the server version and then apt-get installed my window manager
[18:53] <mooboo1> i've uploaded 8gb torrent
[18:54] <LannyC> i'm using wubi and it hangs while configuring apt
[18:54] <shadeofgrey> what torrent address is having the best luck getting 8.04
[18:54] <jondowd> dystopianray: Cool. ty. I have DL'd Kbuntu, but not installed it yet.
[18:54] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: ok
[18:54] <TerryYaki> My network monitor says I'm constantly downloading something even when I have nothing running. It's going on 3 gigs now, and I can't figure out what's going on. Could there be another reason for it?
[18:54] <jms1989> thanks guys, ubuntu is still the greatest in my book.
[18:54] <Beererde> TerryYaki: chkrootkit
[18:54] <kristian42> proq: I was originally updating from herd3 all the way up to today. It broke a few days ago.
[18:54] <picca_> TerryYaki: 3 gigs ... you downloading Windows VIsta ?
[18:55] <TerryYaki> I'm not knowingly downloading anything.
[18:55] <proq> kristian42: you could drop into a tty and try updating again to see if any fix addressed it
[18:55] <mooboo1> TerryYaki, maybe it pics up from other stuff in the house such as other computer or IPTV
[18:55] <Pici> TerryYaki: netstat -tanp will tell you what processes have current open connections and to where
[18:55] <ConstyXIV> shadeofgrey, try ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[18:55] <pierce> TerryYaki: maybe it's your package updates?
[18:55] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  you said you ran sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv  with no luck right/
[18:55] <TerryYaki> If it were updates, should I know it's updating?
[18:55] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: yes
[18:56] <Mighty^^> all .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[18:56] <gopp> were can I get a windows xp theme for ubuntu
[18:56] <bronson> also sudo apt-get install jnettop
[18:56] <reactor> Hello people, I am a newbie
[18:56] <pierce> TerryYaki: I have mine to download packages in the background, then install when I say so
[18:56] <Wyleyrabbit> I have an Athlon64 X2 CPU with ~ 3.25 GB of RAM. Should I be using the AMD64 version of Ubuntu? Will I get better performance?
[18:56] <kristian42> proq: I was on top of updates and I reinstalled because I thought it would fix anything.
[18:56] <bronson> A great way to see what's moving over your network.
[18:56] <gopp> any one know
[18:56] <Mighty^^> gopp: gnome-look.org
[18:56] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: it just says Warning: Option 'VideoOverlay' doesn't affect running session.
[18:56] <gopp> and search for xp MichaelXin
[18:56] <Beererde> Wyleyrabbit: somewhat better
[18:56] <gopp> Mighty^^
[18:56] <cain297> any 8.04 vmware images out there??
[18:56] <kristian42> proq: Seen any issues on lauynchpad for this one ?
[18:56] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: but i have restarted and have gotten same results with no overlay
[18:56] <reactor> I have a CPU AMD 3200+ which as per the specs is a 64 bit processor
[18:56] <TerryYaki> My only netstat -tanp connections are for pigdin.
[18:56] <hja_elightsey> Today is the official release date for ubuntu
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[18:56] <harfg> What to do if update manager stops dl'ing a package
[18:56] <Ximal> How do I chnge the graphic used when I shrink or maximize a window ? I forgot how ..
[18:57] <myf> wow the ubuntu download is slow
[18:57] <Mighty^^> reactor: do U have an AMD XP or an AMD X64 ?
[18:57] <Pici> TerryYaki: You may need to run it with sudo to see all processes
[18:57] <reactor> but I am unable to install the 64 bit version of any software, what could be the possible reason? Any suggestion?
[18:57] <Beererde> myf: bittorrent
[18:57] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  hang on phone call
[18:57] <Beererde> reactor: you have a 32 bit kernel?
[18:57] <harfg> can i just start it again
[18:57] <myf> Beererde: I'm trying to upgrade
[18:57] <jharkn> reactor: you have the 64bit OS right?
[18:57] <dystopianray> reactor: what's happening to prevent you installing them?
[18:57] <harfg> or should i wait it out like myf sais cause of slowness
[18:57] <Pici> reactor: If you are a newbie, you probably want the i386 edition, its much easier to get everything working
[18:57] <Wyleyrabbit> will I have problems with the AMD64 version with a lack of available packages, etc? Or is that issue pretty much solved?
[18:58] <Pici> Wyleyrabbit: There are still some issues, such as java and wine
[18:58] <dfgas> i am looking for a fast mirror for the 64bit desktop version. i am on a 5megbit connection
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[18:58] <TerryYaki> sudo netstat -tanp .... all I see are pigdin and cupsd.
[18:58] <dubby> lol the server is so dead right now
[18:58] <dubby> lol
[18:58] <jharkn> I'm on x86_64 right now and I've had no issues
[18:58] <Beererde> Wyleyrabbit: flash is not easy to install.. but you can emulate firefox from windows in wine and then it works
[18:58] <myf> i can't even finish the apt-get update atm
[18:58] <gregorah> dfgas: Torrent.
[18:58] <hardy64> Pici: I'm running wine on 64bit
[18:58]  * pimplife i just installed 8.04 res stuck at 800x600 how do i fix it
[18:58] <reactor> even my sys info is specifying the processor to AMD Athlon (tm) 64 Processor 3200+
[18:58] <proq> kristian42: no, I don't follow launchpad
[18:58] <x54lzyx> Hey I'm trying to install so I boot the hardy disk and do the live cd option (to make sure everything works) but it keeps booting to busybox i tried my onboard graphics card that didnt fix anything... any ideas why this would be happening?
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[18:58] <mooboo1> hardy64, wine works good for you?
[18:58] <Gralco> why isn't my sestem upgrade to 8.04 working
[18:58] <ylar35> ubuntu servers are slammed huh?
[18:58] <Pici> TerryYaki: What bandwidth monitor are you relying on?
[18:58] <Ruzarik> ubuntu 8's not wurkin for meh, halps.
[18:58] <Wyleyrabbit> ahhh. ok, I'll stick to the i386 version then. I want easy and productive, not a time sync getting stuff working.
[18:58] <Ded_Ryzing> I'm on 64 right now with no issues except flash
[18:58] <Pici> hardy64: oh, nevermind me then :)
[18:58] <jimcooncat> Pici, no problem with server type software, e.g., Apache2, DRBD, KVM, etc. on amd64?
[18:58] <Gralco> it says it doesnt have internet connection
[18:58] <reactor> The problem is this only, that I am unable to install any software which is 64 bit version. Not even the OS of 64 bit version
[18:58] <Wyleyrabbit> THanks for the help
[18:58] <dystopianray> reactor: are you running 64-bit ubuntu?
[18:59] <hardy64> mooboo1: I'm running Macromedia Fireworks & photoshop cs2 now
[18:59] <Pici> jimcooncat: No, those should work fine
[18:59] <dystopianray> reactor: you need 64-bit ubuntu to run 64-bit software
[18:59] <tv3skurt> v0lksman: ok
[18:59] <mooboo1> Ruzarik, "not wurkin" is pretty vague
[18:59] <mooboo1> hardy64, oh
[18:59] <jrabbit> Can ubuntu out of box run on a MBP?
[18:59] <Beererde> reactor: then you have a cpu too old?
[18:59] <reallost1> Hey,  my favorite Linux site (podlinez.com) is up for a webby. http://pv.webbyawards.com  Please go vote for it! (its under mobile services)
[18:59] <mooboo1> jrabbit, MBP?
[18:59] <jimcooncat> Pici, thanks. going to be doing a large (for me) investment in it
[18:59] <jrabbit> I.e.no internet catch-22s?
[18:59] <proq> jrabbit: yes
[18:59] <jrabbit> Good
[18:59] <dystopianray> reactor: you need to download the 64-bit livecd if you want 64-bit ubuntu
[18:59] <TerryYaki> I just go to System>Administration>System Monitor
[18:59] <steveire> Got a ubuntu torrent somewhere?
[18:59] <Pici> reallost1: This is a support channel, please refrain from that.
[18:59] <reactor> Distopianray: I am using a 32 bit right now, because am unable to install a 64 bit version
[18:59] <mooboo1> reallost1, sounds like spam
[18:59] <jrabbit> I hated installing on systems that had no ethernet support
[18:59] <amenado> who has done 7.10 debootstrap install? does it fail on using liveCD? but it works on the alternatecd ? am using file:/mountpointofiso/ubuntu
[18:59] <Pici> !guidelines > reallost1 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[18:59] <hardy64> looks like spam
[18:59] <twistage> where is alsa-base located at?
[18:59] <gilead> hi
[19:00] <dystopianray> reactor: what is the error when you try to install a 64-bit version?
[19:00] <rwycuff> jrabbit: it should work you may have to install the nvidia driver and if you want certian key fundtion it would require tweaking but it will work outta box other then thaty
[19:00] <mooboo1> twistage, $ whereis alsa-bas
[19:00] <mooboo1> twistage, $ whereis alsa-base
[19:00] <twistage> thanks
[19:00] <mooboo1> :)
[19:00] <bullium> I just upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and I've found a few weird issues...I'm running desktop effects and the scroll wheel no longer shades and unshades windows, also Emerald Themer no longers changes the theme. Anyone experiencing the same types of issues?
[19:00] <x54lzyx> Hey I'm trying to install so I boot the hardy disk and do the live cd option (to make sure everything works) but it keeps booting to busybox i tried my onboard graphics card that didnt fix anything... I have a SATA hd any ideas why this would be happening?
[19:00] <gilead> is it safe to kill update manager which sits there doing nothing for like 5 minutes after clicking 'upgrade' to Ubuntu 8?
[19:00] <A[D]minS> where i can download  ubuntu using rsync?
[19:00] <lch_> why is it removing xeyes for an upgrade to hard?!?! not that it use it, but...
[19:00] <bullium> btw desktop effects are still working exactly like they did before
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[19:01] <reactor> It says something like "Use the correct compatible configuration"
[19:01] <Beererde> bullium: they changes some settings
[19:01]  * pimplife i just installed 8.04 amd64 res stuck at 800x600 how do i fix it
[19:01] <jrabbit> Also, i can just scale back an NTFS in my MBR hybrid?
[19:01] <jereme> happy Hoary day everyone
[19:01] <bullium> Beererde: I see that :)
[19:01] <dny> my update manager keeps telling me my system is up to date :/
[19:01] <jrabbit> then sync MBR back to GPT
[19:01] <jrabbit> right?
[19:01] <steveire> Got it here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[19:01] <z0det> ok
[19:01] <A[D]minS> !download
[19:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Hardy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[19:01] <Beererde> bullium: change them back with compiz settings manager
[19:01] <h00k> dny: dist-upgrade
[19:01] <steveire> !torrents
[19:01] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[19:01] <thebigham> How do i update from hardy RC to the offical one?
[19:01] <jereme> happy hardy day rather
[19:01] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  it may be that your card isn't well supported...all my notes I can find said I just ran aticonfig --initial and then aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv and restart X....
[19:01] <reactor> I will try installing through a liveCD once again
[19:01] <z0det> hm dos any one knows the swedish channel for unbuntu?
[19:01] <dny> h00k: how? :x
[19:01] <jereme> took my first sip of coffee and woke up to my error
[19:01] <amenado> x54lzyx-> do you have a current linux installed? wud you like to try installing from your running linux?
[19:02] <Pici> lch_: Because xeyes is no longer a standalone package, its in the x11-apps package
[19:02] <Gistybit> how do i set it to download the necessary files for an upgrade? apt-get -d dist-upgrade didn't work.. (download-only)
[19:02] <z0det> hm dos any one knows the swedish channel for unbuntu?
[19:02] <x54lzyx> I dont amenado
[19:02] <leonbrussels> thebigham: I think you can use update manager
[19:02] <h00k> dny: open a Terminal: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:02] <Seveas> !se | z0det
[19:02] <ubotu> z0det: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[19:02] <z0det> tack
[19:02] <x54lzyx> just windows like 15 gigs of free space
[19:02] <Pici> !traffic
[19:02] <ubotu> NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding!
[19:02] <pen> in session options I clicked "Remember Currently Running Applications" and now the checkbox in startup programs doesn't work anymore
[19:02] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  you can also install Catalyst Control for linux and see if that helps
[19:02] <pen> how do I solve this to make session use startup program tab again?
[19:02] <h00k> x54lzyx: and thats on a fresh install;)
[19:02] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  I never had much luck with it but it is available
[19:02] <Ded_Ryzing> any issues with adobe flash plugin in 64bit?
[19:03] <x54lzyx> lol
[19:03] <thebigham> leonbrussels: it says its already up to date, i remember i downloaded a 100mb+ update from the update manager last night. was that the update? How can i check if its updated or not
[19:03] <dny> h00k: err, it comes back with nothing installed, changed, removed, or anything ;x
[19:03] <Beererde> Ded_Ryzing: yes, does not work
[19:03] <pimplife> i just installed 8.04 amd64 res stuck at 800x600 how do i fix it
[19:03] <x54lzyx> i meant i didnt make the partition the whole size of the disk :-p
[19:03] <reactor> Another thing, pls guide how to clear up the space in Root directory.
[19:03] <amenado> x54lzyx-> if you had linux we could have tried debootstrap style install
[19:03] <jharkn> Ded_Ryzing: fine for the most part but laggy in youtube fullscreen for example
[19:03] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  may also want to look here for more help  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page
[19:03] <bullium> Beererde: any idea where those settings are located?
[19:03] <Beererde> Ded_Ryzing: you can use 32 bit firefox, or even use windows firefox in wine
[19:03] <Beererde> bullium: installed the settings manager? else you cannot change it easily
[19:03] <ferric84> I'm trying to apt-get something, but due to the traffic apt won't connect to the server.  Can I tell it to use a mirror?
[19:03] <Wyleyrabbit> is it possible to upgrade a system in place from the 8.04 CDROM?
[19:03] <h00k> dny: did you do sudo apt-get update
[19:04] <Pici> Wyleyrabbit: Only if you have the alternate CD
[19:04] <x54lzyx> amenado: any particular reason i would be getting this or anyway to check why?
[19:04] <jharkn> or use "youtube-dl" and just download the videos :P
[19:04] <reactor> pls guide how to clear up the space in Root directory.
[19:04] <jms1989> Any idea when eog will fade images in slideshows? Is that on the agenda?
[19:04] <dny> h00k: ah, nope
[19:04] <stothepizzle> have they fixed the wubi crash problems hardy was suffering?
[19:04] <amenado> x54lzyx-> i dont know, i dont have hardy iso yet
[19:04]  * Wyleyrabbit goes to download the alternate CD. 
[19:04] <whiteflag> "Online training for the desktop" <- what is this ?
[19:04] <leonbrussels> thebigham: gnome-system-monitor normally tells you
[19:04] <stothepizzle> last time i used hardy under wubi one bad mount and the whole thing failed
[19:04] <milly1234> hmmm torrent is going slower then the http download I had going before that
[19:04] <leonbrussels> thebigham: In the system tab
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[19:04] <Bubble_tea> is 8.04 beta or its good to go?
[19:04] <h00k> dny: try an update first, then dist-upgrade, and that should work for you - let me know
[19:04] <evand> stothepizzle: crash problems?  Can you elaborate?
[19:04] <x54lzyx> ah this was happening with the betas and rc too and im sure its not a bad burn
[19:04] <h00k> Bubble_tea: it's Released today :)
[19:04] <dystopianray> Bubble_tea: it has been officially released
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[19:04] <jereme> Bubble_tea: it's officialy good to go today
[19:05] <v0lksman> tv3skurt:  http://pastebin.ca/996045  those are my complete install notes before using Envy
[19:05] <pimplife> <-----------i just installed 8.04 amd64 res stuck at 800x600 how do i fix it?
[19:05] <stothepizzle> evand it wouldn't mount hard drives if there was a single ntfs problem
[19:05] <maco> milly1234: the point of torrents isnt necessarily speed. its to avoid killing ubuntu's servers
[19:05] <reactor> pls guide how to clear up the space in Root directory. it is getting full very fast
[19:05] <jharkn> reactor: run baobab may help
[19:05] <ilMacchia> ciao a tutti
[19:05] <Bubble_tea> How i update from 7.10 to 8.04
[19:05] <ilMacchia> hello
[19:05] <milly1234> maco, thanks, I will continue to use it then
[19:05] <Theo_> how much swap should i have on a desktop computer? how much swap should i have on a server?
[19:05] <KiwiJoker> reactor are you talking about /root or / ?
[19:05] <Beererde> Theo_: depends on your ram
[19:05] <h00k> Theo_: it depends on how much RAM you have
[19:05] <thebigham> How do i check if i got the lastest update or not?
[19:06] <Beererde> Theo_: i have 4 gb ram and NO swap, why bother
[19:06] <Theo_> i have 2GB on desktop and 128mb on server
[19:06] <mgedmin> swap is a safety net
[19:06] <milly1234> 10 - 24 hours I will have my download :)
[19:06] <maco> thebigham: well, you never want to be using swap, but um...they say double your ram.  you will not use that much unless you're hibernating.  you shouldnt use more than 256mb of swap
[19:06] <mgedmin> give it a couple of gigs
[19:06] <KiwiJoker> i have 2gigs of ram and no swap...
[19:06] <reactor> Both / and /root should be in the same drive. I am talking of the smae
[19:06] <evand> stothepizzle: I'm not entirely sure what you mean.  If chkdsk needs to be run on the ntfs partition, then run it, let it fix the errors, and everything should be peachy after that.
[19:06] <Tabris-> [reactor]: what a coincidence! i'm one too =P
[19:06] <h00k> Beererde, Theo_, I have 3gigs, 3gigs swap, and I've never used the swap.
[19:06] <dystopianray> Theo_: if you intend to hibernate you'll probably want your swap to be at least equal in size to your ram
[19:06] <Tabris-> ops
[19:06] <Theo_> swap is optional?
[19:06] <Tabris-> sorry
[19:06] <[LMM]Iowahc> is it possible, that the updates about a week ago already upgraded my Ubuntu to hardy release?
[19:06] <Beererde> h00k: then disable it...
[19:06] <stothepizzle> ok evand
[19:06] <Theo_> so its incase you run out of ram?
[19:06] <Bubble_tea> Is it safe to just update 7.10 to 8.04?
[19:06] <KiwiJoker> reactor, so your wondering why your drive is filling up lol
[19:06] <maco> thebigham: yes
[19:06] <mgedmin> when the system runs out of memory, and you have swap, you can kill the leaking app and recover
[19:06] <maco> Theo_: yes
[19:07] <mgedmin> when you don't have swap, you're out of luck
[19:07] <[LMM]Iowahc> i was running Hardy Beta
[19:07] <h00k> Beererde: I am doing that now, I just never got around it;)
[19:07] <maco> thebigham: sorry not you
[19:07] <jburd> reactor: Use the Disk Usage Analyzer.
[19:07] <Theo_> so 512 is enough or more than enough
[19:07] <maco> Theo_: swap is like pagefiles
[19:07] <Beererde> mgedmin: other way around, the leaking app will cause the system to deadlock, with no swap it will just eexit
[19:07] <thebigham> How do i check if i got the lastest update or not?
[19:07] <kostkon> Bubble_tea, have you checked this?: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[19:07] <Ruzarik> why is update manager crashing when i hit upgrade? why are all my CD images corrupted? why are all the files on my CD images not installing?
[19:07] <ubuntuROX> LMM northman If you ran beta, or RC and still show development but it finds no updates,, run  sudo grub-update then reboot to fix it.
[19:07] <bubba> what software can use MSN on
[19:07] <KiwiJoker> i have 2gigs of ram and have barely ever used close to 1.5gigs ram,
[19:07] <twistage> Any particular reason I'm getting a massive amount of static coming out of my speakers on Hardy when playing audio files?
[19:07] <jharkn> reactor: enter "baobab" in the terminal
[19:07] <lch_> [LMM]Iowahc: if you have had a beta installed and upgraded today, yes then you're on the final release automatically
[19:07] <Theo_> pidgin is good for msn
[19:07] <h00k> bubba: aMSN, Pidgin
[19:07] <KiwiJoker> and i do alot of shit
[19:08] <Pici> !language | KiwiJoker
[19:08] <ubotu> KiwiJoker: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:08] <bubba> nice thanks
[19:08] <Beererde> twistage: check dmesg
[19:08] <henbru> bubba: emesene
[19:08] <browniehead> where do i get drivers for my newly acquired 8600gts
[19:08] <timUR123> when is 8.10 alpha 1 comming out ?????
[19:08] <ubuntuROX> [LMM]Iowahc If you ran beta, or RC and still show development but it finds no updates,, run  sudo grub-update then reboot to fix it.
[19:08] <[LMM]Iowahc> lch_ there are no updates today for me, i updated 3-4 days ago
[19:08] <Theo_> how do i send  a message to a specific person on irc?
[19:08] <v0lksman> browniehead:  install Envyng
[19:08] <timUR123> when is 8.10 alpha 1 comming out ?????
[19:08] <tlacuache> hey, anyone had any trouble burning the 8.04 isos with nautilus?
[19:08] <[LMM]Iowahc> ok
[19:08] <[LMM]Iowahc> thx
[19:08] <jacoblyles> are the ubuntu software archives down today?
[19:08] <maco> timUR123: not for at least a month
[19:08] <Nicekiwi9> i cant play DVDs
[19:08] <reactor> Thanks jharkn. Thanks, jbird, Tabris, kiwijoker. I will try doing the same right away.
[19:08] <h00k> man -- this channel is going to be rockin with people today.
[19:08] <maco> timUR123: UDS has to happen first
[19:08] <dystopianray> jacoblyles: it's release day, they are being hammered
[19:08] <Pici> jacoblyles: They are slammed from the release
[19:08] <Deamos> weee...Hardy upgrade did not go so well :P
[19:08] <marx2k> jacoblyles: no, but they are very slow due to the amount of peolpe hammering at them
[19:08] <lch_> jacoblyles: no, just overwhelmed by much traffic ;-)
[19:09] <tlacuache> i try it with nautilus and it ejects the disc and says to insert another one. i try with brasero and it sayt's it's not a valid iso9660 filesystem
[19:09] <Gralco> the update manager isnt working for me
[19:09] <dubby> jacoblyles no, just over used
[19:09] <tlacuache> but i can mount it on the loopback fine
[19:09] <Deamos> I guess ill just reinstall fresh from the CD
[19:09] <alexz> guys!! I need some help!
[19:09] <Deamos> :P
[19:09] <tlacuache> and the md5sum matches
[19:09] <jharkn> np
[19:09] <v0lksman> h00k:  going to be?  :)
[19:09] <Pici> !ask
[19:09] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:09] <A[D]minS> this is command correct ? rsync -ravP rsync://ubuntu.intergenia.de/ubuntu-linux/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso  .
[19:09] <J_Humphrey> is there a mirror for the torrent link, the one int the MOTD is not working
[19:09] <alexz> my firefox is hanging my whole machine!!!
[19:09] <h00k> v0lksman: er. yeah. is. my bad.
[19:09] <henbru> Nicekiwi9: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:09] <KiwiJoker> upgrades have never really worked out, i always found its better to back up your /home and do a fresh resinstall
[19:09] <Deamos> hehe I had like 20 crash errors :P
[19:09] <milly1234> er well might have it downloaded in 4 days... don't normally use this torrent thing, looks like downloads are resumable on it though
[19:09] <thebigham> !pastbin
[19:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:09] <Deamos> yeah thats what im doing Kiwi :)
[19:09] <dassouki> where can i find installation issue problems before i upgrade ?
[19:09] <maco> J_Humphrey: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[19:09] <thebigham> !binpast
[19:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binpast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:09] <h00k> !pastebin
[19:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[19:09] <dubby> !pastebin
[19:09] <tim__b> tlacuache, i burned the i368 dvd with out problems. which on did you test?
[19:09] <jacoblyles> I can't use apt-get to install irb because the ubuntu archives are down. Is there another way to get it?
[19:09] <thebigham> thanks
[19:09] <dubby> spell it right
[19:10] <alexz> my firefox is hanging my whole machine!!!
[19:10] <maco> stop it guys!
[19:10]  * pimplife downloaded ubuntu 8.04 in 14 mins
[19:10] <maco> nobody was paste-spamming
[19:10] <v0lksman> jacoblyles:  aren't down...just slow and hard to get a queue
[19:10] <mooboo1> 8,5 gb uploaded on torrent :)
[19:10] <Deamos> upgrading to Hardy....crashcrashcrash die buzz...fizzle :P
[19:10] <xda> what does PITA mean
[19:10] <x54lzyx> whats the difference between the dvd and cd
[19:10] <Jessica_lilly> what are some perental control software for ubuntu my friend wants to move to it but needs some
[19:10] <dystopianray> xda: pain in the arse
[19:10] <x54lzyx> xda: pain in the aass
[19:10] <Pici> xda: pain in the rear
[19:10] <wild_oscar> does anyone know how to configure wireless? I can't seem to ping my network devices, even though internet works fine
[19:10] <maco> Jessica_lilly: dansguardian
[19:10] <xda> lolol
[19:10] <xda> thx
[19:10] <beex> xda: pain in the @$$
[19:10] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:10] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:11] <KiwiJoker> it was the same for feisty and gutsy, better off to do fresh reinstall
[19:11] <JPSman_> I am now seeding desktop i386.iso for you all :OD
[19:11] <Beererde> Jessica_lilly: pull the plug :)
[19:11] <maco> Jessica_lilly: its like a firewall for bad content
[19:11] <dubby> I love how every question gets a billion of the same response
[19:11] <Jessica_lilly> i need it to control the users time as well
[19:11] <legend2440> in gutsy when i mounted drives in fstab as /media/Seagate the icon on desktop would be labeled Seagate but in hardy /media/Seagate is labeled  '160.0 GB Media. is there a way to get it label icon 'Seagate' like in gutsy?
[19:11] <jharkn> dvd just contains all the variants iirc
[19:11] <jacoblyles> wild_oscar: search Ubuntu forums for how to setup your specific wireless hardware
[19:11] <Deamos> well then..time for a fresh install...wish me luck :)
[19:11] <maco> Jessica_lilly: an egg timer and a parent
[19:11] <jharkn> so only need cd if you know what you want
[19:11] <pbryan> Anyone here know about util-vserver package?
[19:11] <h00k> x54lzyx: Good luck Deamos
[19:11] <KiwiJoker> cant go wrong with a fresh reinstall ;)
[19:11] <h00k> whoops
[19:11] <Jessica_lilly> fair enough
[19:11] <Beererde> Jessica_lilly: not good paedagogics.
[19:11] <x54lzyx> ?
[19:11] <maco> Jessica_lilly: tvs arent parents, so there's no reason to think a computer is
[19:11] <h00k> x54lzyx: my bad
[19:12] <peepsalot> is there a package for 32bit jdk on 64bit ubuntu?
[19:12] <reactor> jharkn, baobab leads me to disk analyser, I believe. What do i do next? how to clean up the unwanted files.
[19:12] <icltlfatppl> pimplife: how did you get that download so fast?
[19:12] <Nicekiwi9> my resalutions r screwed
[19:12] <Jessica_lilly> well its not for me so it dont matter
[19:12] <dystopianray> excellent, the german apt mirrors aren't being hammered
[19:12] <Jessica_lilly> ill tell the person who wants it
[19:12] <Jessica_lilly> :) thanks
[19:12] <askand> I can not g the the loginscreen settings :( how can I solve that?
[19:12] <zachb> Any ideas on why my atheros wireless card doesn't even show up in network admin?
[19:12] <KiwiJoker> everyone use german apt mirrors! there not being hammered!
[19:12] <Beererde> dystopianray: which ones specifically? i tried several
[19:12] <jharkn> reactor: well run the analysis and it will show you where the space is being taken up, its then up to you to delete those files
[19:12] <lch_> peepsalot: i dont think so, but you could install a 32 bit version in a "chroot"
[19:12] <henbru> So, which Hardy-torrent is the most seeded?
[19:12] <ltracy__> Interesting how simple questions get political responses
[19:12] <thebigham> after i do a sudo apt-get update and a sudo apt-get upgrade, i get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." does that mean my comp is up to date?
[19:12] <reactor> hmmm
[19:12] <askand> zachb: have that problem too
[19:12] <dystopianray> Beererde: de.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:12] <jacoblyles> dystopianray: how do I switch apt to use another mirror?
[19:12] <Gman99999> I can't check off whatever I want to include in the upgrades in the upgrade manager why is it?
[19:13] <Beererde> dystopianray: thx
[19:13] <reactor> kharkn, cool. I will be back
[19:13] <tim__b> henbru, the i368 desktop
[19:13] <zachb> askand: any developments?
[19:13] <jharkn> reactor: ok :)
[19:13] <peepsalot> lch_, what's chroot for?  if it's not in the repos, can't I just install from sun's site?
[19:13] <ubuntuROX> <thebigham> If you ran beta, or RC and still show development but it finds no updates,, run  sudo grub-update then reboot to fix it.
[19:13] <dystopianray> jacoblyles: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list or there is probably some way to do it in synaptic/adept
[19:13] <askand> zachb: im afraide not..it shows up in hardwaremanager
[19:13] <woodwizzle> Is there a bittorrent or metalink of Hardy out? Seems like there are less mirrors than normal
[19:13] <KiwiJoker> peepsalot if you dont know what chroot is, dont even touch it mate, you'll only end up hurting yourself
[19:13] <dystopianray> peepsalot: you should already have it
[19:13] <pimplife> <-----------i just installed 8.04 amd64 res stuck at 800x600 how do i fix it?
[19:13] <zachb> askand: exactly the same fore me
[19:13] <dystopianray> peepsalot: it's a standard linux command
[19:14] <jharkn> pimplife: system-->prefs-->screen res?
[19:14] <tim__b> woodwizzle, torrent mirror: http://tinyurl.com/6avfwz
[19:14] <chazco> One last question before I try to download 8.04... is it possible to downgrade to Firefox 2 until Firefox 3 becomes stable?
[19:14] <pimplife> doesnt work
[19:14] <peepsalot> dystopianray, no i mean, if the repos don't have 32bit jdk, why would I need chroot
[19:14] <twanj_> woodwizzle: torrents n metalinks at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[19:14] <jappdev> chazco: yes
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[19:14] <dny> chazco: yes
[19:14] <ubuntuROX> yes you can have both installed
[19:14] <lch_> peepsalot: while it is possible to mix 32 bit and 64 bit applications on 64 bit ubuntu, sometimes it is easier to run a 32 bit ubuntu in a sandbox. "chroot" allows you to run linux within linux. i use it for 32bit firefox w/ plugins for example
[19:14] <pen> chazco: firefox 2 is installed in 8.04 too
[19:14] <legend2440> in gutsy when i mounted drives in fstab as /media/Seagate the icon on desktop would be labeled Seagate but in hardy /media/Seagate is labeled  '160.0 GB Media. is there a way to get it label icon 'Seagate' like in gutsy?
[19:14] <dystopianray> peepsalot: they do have a 32-bit jdk
[19:14] <KiwiJoker> chazco, just uninstall firefox 3 and install firefox 2 ;)
[19:14] <pen> chazco: go to menu internet and you will see two firefox
[19:14] <jharkn> pimplife: sorry don't know then, I'm a noob really
[19:14] <lch_> peepsalot: there is an article about chroot in the ubuntu wiki, search there :-)
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[19:14] <x54lzyx> ok so i just disconnected my hard drive to see if that was making the installer boot into busy box, but i still got busybox
[19:15] <pimplife> jharkn: lol
[19:15] <pen> chazco: or if you don't have firefox2 you can always install it in synaptics ;)
[19:15] <myf> hello people, what's the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade, which one do i use for upgrading to hardy?
[19:15] <Willizar> how can i format a usb stick
[19:15] <jharkn> ;)
[19:15] <pen> myf: the first one
[19:15] <chazco> Ah... so it can all be done from the repos / apparently installed... sounds good, thanks jappdev, dny, pen, KiwiJoker :)
[19:15] <zachb> myf: upgrade upgrades packages, dist-upgrade upgrades to hardy
[19:15] <Bubble_tea> It show Thord party sources blocked
[19:15] <KiwiJoker> Willizar cfdisk
[19:15] <maco> Jessica_lilly: i actually have seen some software for it before. it just takes like 5 hours for me to find it every time
[19:15] <myf> gotacha :)
[19:15] <zachb> askand: so, any cle?
[19:15] <zachb> *clue
[19:16] <Willizar> KiwiJoker:  what??
[19:16] <pen> my question now
[19:16] <pen> in session options I clicked "Remember Currently Running Applications" and now the checkbox in startup programs doesn't work anymore
[19:16] <ompaul> !upgrade | myf
[19:16] <ubotu> myf: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:16] <pen> how do I solve this to make session use startup program tab again?
[19:16] <reactor> jharkn, it is running. It saeems it is going to take some time b4 I know whats wrong where.
[19:16] <KiwiJoker> Willizar open up terminal and type in "cfdisk" without the quotes
[19:16] <askand> zachb: Im searching google right now, I let you know if I findanything
[19:16] <KiwiJoker> Willizar actually before you even do that, open up a terminal and type in "man cfdisk" without the quotes
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[19:17] <lch_> !chroot | peepsalot
[19:17] <ubotu> peepsalot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[19:17] <didy> wow!!!
[19:17] <didy> 8
[19:17] <didy> 8.04 rock!!!!
[19:17] <stbain> indeed it does
[19:17] <zachb> 8.05 stone!!!!
[19:17] <Zackymc_k> is this now a hardy irc? or still gutsy?
[19:17] <x54lzyx> ok so i just disconnected my hard drive to see if that was making the installer boot into busy box, but i still got busybox
[19:17] <Ruzarik> MY UBUNTU DOESNT WORK :'(
[19:17] <milly1234> I wonder if my isp is limiting my bandwidth on this torrent, its going about 45KiB/s
[19:17] <ddollar> is archive.ubuntu.com hosed right now?
[19:17] <jharkn> reactor: ok, it'll give you a pretty chart which you can mouse over and find the largest folders and then subfolders etc. as well as a list
[19:17] <didy> wow!!!!!
[19:17] <dystopianray> ddollar: yes
[19:17] <zachb> ddollar: yup
[19:17] <magnetron> !doesn't work | Ruzarik
[19:17] <ubotu> Ruzarik: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[19:17] <uwo> hi all. ever since renaming my wireless router my laptop doesn't connect automatically (appears to be i.e. wifi light is on, but no internet) - in order to work I have to use iwconfig & dhclient manually... n1 ideas what could be wrong? are there still some older settings anywhere?
[19:17] <jharkn> reactor: pretty snazzy lol
[19:18] <Milos_SD> what package is responsible for detecting extransions and give them icons?
[19:18] <dystopianray> ddollar: de.archive.ubuntu.com is still working
[19:18] <drivetrax> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/firestarter/firestarter_1.0.3-6ubuntu1_i386.deb
[19:18] <didy> does Automatix work on 8.04???????????????
[19:18] <Willizar> KiwiJoker:  what is this??
[19:18] <zachb> drivetrax: archive hosed
[19:18] <maek> does anyone know if Hardy Heron has Xorg7.3 ??
[19:18] <zachb> didy: don't use Automatix
[19:18] <didy> does Automatix work on 8.04???????????????
[19:18] <Ruzarik> ubotu: yes, it's throwing dishes at me when i tell it to get a job.
[19:18] <CowBud> RELEASe what what
[19:18] <dystopianray> didy: why would you need automatix?
[19:18] <didy> ah
[19:18] <zachb> !Automatix
[19:18] <stefg> !automatix | didy
[19:18] <ubotu> Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[19:18] <ubotu> didy: please see above
[19:18] <KiwiJoker> Willizar are you reading whats on the terminal after you typed in "man cfdisk" ?
[19:18] <drivetrax> hosed?
[19:18] <drivetrax> hosed?
[19:18] <roffe__> my cd-burner appears to have broken... is it possible to install 8.04 from an SD?
[19:18] <hyperair> i can't get the torrent out T_T
[19:19] <hyperair> it's soooooooo jammed
[19:19] <Assid> okay.. quick question
[19:19] <Ademan> yay the update broke!
[19:19] <dystopianray> maek: it has x.org 7.3, yes
[19:19] <magnetron> Milos_SD: gnome. right click on the file and choose properties
[19:19] <maek> thanks dystopianray
[19:19] <Willizar> yes KiwiJoker
[19:19] <OllieA> I really badly need a new screen res but it is not on the list, how do I be able to choose a new one?
[19:19] <Assid> if i use a guided resize ...i have a delll laptop.. and windows and that dell partition in there... so does it retain ALL partiitons?
[19:19] <rlj__> i have a amd64 laptop which is starving at 512MB memory, and i'm about to reinstall ubuntu. previously ran the 32bit version. are there any benefits with running 64bit linux performance-wise, since I have such limited memory anyway. or will the performance actually be worse? also, since some (proprietary) stuff is still only usable on 32bit, i guess i'm really asking if there's any use running 64bit at all for me?
[19:19] <magnetron> !fixres | OllieA
[19:19] <ubotu> OllieA: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:19] <KiwiJoker> Willizar keep reading then
[19:19] <milly1234> so when I upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 it will not erase my home directory, but can it wipe out the system itself and start fresh while still doing that?
[19:19] <pen> !session
[19:19] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[19:19] <drivetrax> You saying that I can't get firestarter cause of the new ubuntu?
[19:19] <dystopianray> rlj__: 64-bit uses more ram
[19:19] <roffe__> my cd-burner appears to have broken... is it possible to install 8.04 from an SD?
[19:20] <Assid> rlj__: no no
[19:20] <askand>  zachb: tried ndiswrapper?
[19:20] <Pici> rlj__: I suggest 32bit, you arent really gaining much on that system
[19:20] <pen> !boot
[19:20] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
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[19:20] <Milos_SD> magnetron, I don't have icons for .zip and .pdf files... but on LiveCD I have ...
[19:20] <Assid> rlj__: it can ACCESS more ram
[19:20] <Pici> !msgthebot | pen
[19:20] <ubotu> pen: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:20] <lch_> rlj__: performace: little change. but you i'll have problems with flah plugin and some other software on 64 bit
[19:20] <dystopianray> Assid: it also has higher memory consumption
[19:20] <zachb> askand: have you?
[19:20] <Assid> Pici:  and i think you  do gain out of that suystem
[19:20] <pen> ok
[19:20] <Assid> dystopianray: it does?
[19:20] <dystopianray> rlj__: 64-bit consumes more memory
[19:20] <dystopianray> Assid: yes
[19:20] <reactor> I have got the graphs, but there is another problem now. I do not know which one is important and which one might be a temp folder, which I can delete right away
[19:20] <lch_> rlj__: that supposed to say "Flash Plugin"
[19:20] <KiwiJoker> dystopianray thats rubbish
[19:20] <dystopianray> KiwiJoker: no it's not
[19:20] <jharkn> Assid: it will also use more due to the larger block (?) size afaik
[19:20] <hyperair> does anyone have a mirror to the torrent?
[19:20] <KiwiJoker> dystopianray care to explain in pm?
[19:20] <maek> roffe__, CD drives are next to nothing these days
[19:20] <didy> wow!!!!!!!!
[19:20] <hyperair> i can't even get the torrent
[19:21] <askand> zachb: nope im using another wireless card right now but it would be nice to get the atheros going
[19:21] <rlj__> Assid: yeah that's what i thought. i suppose kernel pages are bigger and as all addresses use 64bits, i'll be addressing the RAM with a ton of useless bits.
[19:21] <hyperair> this is ridiculous
[19:21] <didy> ok whats the best mp3 player???
[19:21] <dystopianray> KiwiJoker: suddenly you have all your pointers and a bunch of your variables doubling in size
[19:21] <ubuntuROX> I like audacious
[19:21] <maek> Rythmbox didy
[19:21] <helmut_> does anyone here know how to deactivate the key-binding of the alt-key so that it won't move a window when I drag it?
[19:21] <ddollar> are there any alternatives to archive.ubuntu.com that i can use?
[19:21] <hyperair> banshee
[19:21] <reactor> jharkn, I came across "apt-get clean". Does it help?
[19:21] <zachb> askand: know where I can get the driver for the card?
[19:21] <hyperair> i'm all for banshee
[19:21] <[diecast]> anyone have a link that shows mirrors for archive.ubuntu.org
[19:21] <hyperair> esp 1.0
[19:21] <ubuntuROX> its like winampish
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[19:21] <milly1234> hyperair, I had that same problem, when I went to download the torrent file in the title it took a while for that file to start
[19:21] <woodwizzle> twanj_: Wow, canonical is doing the metalinks now?! That is awesome
[19:21] <Assid> someone mentioned to me they found the system to be a bit more "sensitive"
[19:21] <rlj__> but there are no other nifty features then that can only be exposed in my cpu when running native 64bits. then 32bit it is!
[19:21] <zachb> askand: its not my computer, actually, it's a friend's computer who I'm trying to help over the 'net
[19:21] <mgedmin> helmut_: system -> preferences -> windows, iirc
[19:21] <didy> banshee???
[19:21] <josinalvo> hi there.
[19:21] <josinalvo> me and my friend in here would like to upgrade to the new ubuntu. CAn we do so with the ISO (or cd) ?
[19:21] <J_Humphrey> I have /home installed on a seperate partition, so when I upgrade, if i delete all the ./* folders in /home, will ubuntu rebuild them?
[19:21] <nixnoob> whats the command to upgrade to hardy?
[19:22] <hyperair> milly1234: do you think you could send me the file through irc or sth
[19:22] <KiwiJoker> dystopianray i think you re-read your material there mate
[19:22] <dystopianray> KiwiJoker: those extra 32-bits all over the place have to be stored somewhere and that means more memory usage
[19:22] <stbain> josinalvo: yes
[19:22] <maco> josinalvo: alternate CD will let you
[19:22] <rlj__> thanks for the feedback guys!
[19:22] <twanj_> woodwizzle: I know! pretty exciting...
[19:22] <hyperair> i think it supports file transfers
[19:22] <hyperair> or i hope
[19:22] <chris062689> Has anyone here built computers before?  Could someone help me make sure my hardware is compatable with Ubuntu?  (Im going to be building.)
[19:22] <maek> nixnoob, look in your update manager
[19:22] <zachb> askand: oh, I think he got it
[19:22] <hyperair> O_o
[19:22] <askand> zachb: Ahh I see, well all I can say is that perhaps he could try ndiswrapper :)
[19:22] <helmut_> does anyone here know how to deactivate the key-binding of the alt-key so that it won't move a window when I drag it?
[19:22] <askand> zachb: oh? how?
[19:22] <nixnoob> maek, it says nothing
[19:22] <Zackymc_k> THIS TOO MANY PEOPLE TALKING IN 1 channel... is there another one?
[19:22] <Xzvm> Hello there. Is there anyone that can help me with a thing?
[19:22] <Beererde> chris062689: use intel chipset and nvidia and it will work
[19:22] <zachb> askand: sudo apt-get install install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:22] <Milos_SD> you can get .torrent files from here: http://www.sdcafe.co.yu/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent and http://www.sdcafe.co.yu/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[19:22] <milly1234> hyperair, I am not registered so it won't let me dcc, and I have no clue what sth is
[19:22] <jharkn> reactor: I'm not an expert and haven't heard of that, feel free to try it though! I'll look it up myslef since I'm not busy with anything
[19:22] <zachb>  /ignore Zackymc_k
[19:22] <askand> Zackymc_k: perhaps it is one for you language?
[19:22] <nixnoob> maek, nevermind i had to restart
[19:22] <didy> i installed Sun Java 6 Runtime on x64.. but it doesn't seem to work!
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[19:22] <flithm> that's a pimpin fast torrent
[19:23] <reactor> thanks jharkn
[19:23] <Marfi> anyone else having problems installing amarok?
[19:23] <didy> i installed Sun Java 6 Runtime on x64.. but it doesn't seem to work!
[19:23] <jharkn> reactor: np
[19:23] <hyperair> milly1234 aw crap.. could you upload it to mediafire.com or something then?
[19:23] <nass> Hy, someone here could help me set up 2 screen display on my laptop on ubuntu HArdy ?
[19:23] <milly1234> ok, I just registered it for this reason
[19:23] <zachb> askand: err.. nevermind... I lied
[19:23] <didy> i installed Sun Java 6 Runtime on x64.. but it doesn't seem to work!
[19:23] <backgen> hey guys, i'm currently running Ubuntu Gutsy...what's the easiest way for me to upgrade to Heron? I've heard i can just type something in Terminal or something...but i smell a lie
[19:23] <peepsalot> i have a problem: when i try to install a package it says: could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:23] <askand> zachb: yea tried that before :(
[19:23] <dystopianray> didy: in what way does it not seem to work?
[19:23] <Interflop> Anyone know why my TV Tuner isn't being detected like it was in previous versions of ubuntu?
[19:23] <josinalvo> maco: will I lose the packages that are not on the CD (that I apt-geted) ?
[19:23] <vega--> backgen: update-manager
[19:23] <dubby> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[19:23] <lch_> backgen: just run the update manager from the menu and click on update
[19:24] <maco> josinalvo: they wont be updated.  youll have to update them separately
[19:24] <didy> it says need GCJ!!!
[19:24] <mazaf> does basket notes have a spell checker ?
[19:24] <hyperair> milly1234: thanks!
[19:24] <milly1234> you are welcome
[19:24] <dystopianray> didy: what needs gcj?
[19:24] <Zackymc_k> Does the touch screen work for the tx1000 in hardy?
[19:24] <pwrquest>  hey everyone, i would like to have the system remember where my windows are and place them there when they are reopened, is there any simple way to do this? I'm using compiz fusion with gnome.
[19:24] <rconan> anyone tried installing hardy on a fakeraid yet?
[19:24] <J_Humphrey>  have /home installed on a seperate partition, so when I upgrade, if i delete all the ./* folders in /home, will ubuntu rebuild them?
[19:25] <Ranbee> Zackymc_k: there's one at EFnet i just tried it and there's not many people there!
[19:25] <josinalvo> maco: do you know if I can just add the ubuntu CD as a repository on my sources.list ?
[19:25] <backgen> holy ****** i've got 148 updates available....so if i install all of them i'll official have Hardy Heron on my Computer?
[19:25] <reactor> jharkn, it seems "apt-get clean"  cleans everything from /var/cache/apt/archives
[19:25] <dystopianray> backgen: essentially, yes
[19:25] <Aperculum> why isn't there a md5sum or sha1sum available for latest ubuntu release?
[19:25] <maco> josinalvo: the alternate cd,yes. itll prompt you to add it when you insert it
[19:25] <nass> Anyone here could help me set up 2 screen display on my laptop on ubuntu Hardy ?
[19:25] <akhilesh> i have a question what is the difference between gutsy and beryl ???
[19:25] <didy> ..................................
[19:25] <Aperculum> or is it hidden too like the torrent link was?
[19:25] <lch_> J_Humphrey: most applications if not all will write their settings again if they dont find a file in your /home. however i'd backup and not delete the old ones in case one isn't doing what you expect.
[19:25] <dystopianray> Aperculum: there are md5sums available for all isos
[19:26] <backgen> dystopianray: hourray! thanks! ...what do you mean by essentially though, will i be missing something?
[19:26] <Aperculum> dystopianray, where?
[19:26] <shane2peru> Aperculum, no you can find them at the main site
[19:26] <dystopianray> akhilesh: they are two entirely differnet things
[19:26] <J_Humphrey> pwrquest: if you go to Preferences>Sessions it will work for what you want
[19:26] <zachb> akhilesh: so much
[19:26] <dystopianray> Aperculum: on all the mirrors look at the file MD5SUMS
[19:26] <shane2peru> Aperculum, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[19:26] <J_Humphrey> thanks ich_
[19:26] <akhilesh> dystopianray: like red had and ubuntu ?
[19:26] <mut80r> sighs. dissapointed.
[19:26] <shane2peru> Aperculum, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS
[19:26] <jharkn> reactor: I see, is your filesystem filling itself up?
[19:26] <Aperculum> oh, hidden
[19:26] <wickers> is there an official torrent?
[19:26] <dystopianray> akhilesh: beryl is a piece of software
[19:26] <Interflop> Anyone know why my TV Tuner isn't being detected like it was in previous versions of ubuntu?
[19:26] <reactor> may be, Yes
[19:27] <dystopianray> akhilesh: guts is a linux distribution
[19:27] <Aperculum> wickers, look at topic
[19:27] <shane2peru> Aperculum, it isn't hidden, it is there in plain sight, scroll toward the bottom.
[19:27] <lch_> Interflop: did you have to build some kernel module yourself the last time?
[19:27] <backgen> hey guys...can someone help me to completely remove Automatix from my computer?
[19:27] <reactor> guys, how s Google OS or GoOS installation which is based on ubuntu platform itself??
[19:27] <wickers> Aperculum, thanks, I don't understand why that was so hard to find on the website.
[19:27] <dystopianray> backgen: no i guess not, you'll be equivalent to the final if you update
[19:27] <Interflop> Ich: Nope, it was simply autodetected in previous versions
[19:27] <Aperculum> shane2peru, yes, but the site it self doesn't present a link to it
[19:27] <backgen> dystopianray: :D thanks
[19:27] <mut80r> guys. something on 804 about wireless firmware download. fw-cutter something script .. as soon as i check the box in the restricted drivers manager, the entire system locks up. waited for 10 mins, nothing. Ctrl+Alt+Backsp doesnt work.
[19:27] <josinalvo> akhilesh: gutsy is a version of ubuntu, beryl is a program (to make gnome better-looking)
[19:28] <lch_> Interflop: USB or PCI?
[19:28] <didy> ...........
[19:28] <Interflop> PCI
[19:28] <pwrquest> rconan: i have
[19:28] <rconan> pwrquest: how did you do it?
[19:28] <KiwiJoker> mut80r wireless firmware update?
[19:28] <mazaf> does basket notes have a spell checker ?
[19:28] <didy> omg
[19:28] <backgen> josinalvo: is beryl like compiz then?
[19:28] <didy> my banshee hangs there while playing mp3!
[19:28] <Dani> hi!
[19:28] <shane2peru> Aperculum, it is right here:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ about  3/4 of the way down the page, that is where I got the link for it.
[19:28] <excitatory> does anyone know if that keyboard bug (in a ATI, fglrx / XGL setup) has been fixed in the new release?
[19:28] <josinalvo> backgen: yup
[19:28] <akhilesh> heelo  ??
[19:28] <shane2peru> Aperculum, scroll down the the list of files at the bottom
[19:28] <jharkn> reactor: apt-get clean deletes archived installation files
[19:28] <lch_> Interflop: is it still listed when you write "lspci" and do you see some messages about the card when you look at the message of "dmsg|less"?
[19:28] <Aperculum> yeah, I will
[19:29] <mut80r> KiwiJoker: can't privmsg, it says something about it needs to download the firmware because it can't legally be shipped with the OS or something. as soon as I hit the checkbox bam. system dies.
[19:29] <nixnoob> update manager window grey's out indefinately when i hit upgrade to hardy button anyone have any ideas?
[19:29] <Dani> i'm having a bad time trying to get my 22'' lcd screen to work on it's native resolution, anyone could give me a hand?
[19:29] <didy> whats the codec to play mp3 plz
[19:29] <reactor> kharkn, is it harmful?
[19:29] <shane2peru> Aperculum, at any rate you have it. :)
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[19:29] <T-Hawk> hey guys... anybody know why /etc/init.d/mpd start complains about Avahi?
[19:29] <reactor> sorry Jharkn, is it harmful to remove archived installation files?
[19:29] <Dani> i'm using an nvidia card (6 series)
[19:29] <J_Humphrey> Dani, do you have ATI or nVidia?
[19:29] <lch_> nixnoob: try again later. servers are under heavy load
[19:29] <mgedmin> nixnoob: that's all right; there should be a new window opened when you push that button
[19:29] <didy> .............
[19:29] <roffe__> maek: Sry, I had to take a dump :) Yeah, I'm aware, but I can't get hold of one now, and since I'm about to buy a laptop soon, I have no reason to buy one.. but is it possible to install from a memory card?
[19:29] <didy> whats the codec to play mp3 plz
[19:29] <pwrquest> rconan: wait, should i say i'm using a fake raid drive. but my boot is a normal drive
[19:29] <milly1234> Dani, what monitor
[19:29] <KiwiJoker> mut80r ah ok, you sure its not actually talking about your graphics card drivers though? ive never encountered a firmware download from restricted driver manager
[19:30] <nixnoob> mgedmin, no there isnt the window greys out and it just sits there
[19:30] <Aperculum> thanks shane2peru
[19:30] <Odd-rationale> How to get broadcom wireless (bcm4306) working in Hardy? It worked perfectly in Gutsy... I've already tried somethings in the forums...
[19:30] <rconan> pwrquest: ah... not what i meant
[19:30] <Dani> Lg l225ws, milly1234
[19:30] <nixnoob> lch_, yea i figured that was it
[19:30] <Interflop> Ich: I don't see it under lspci
[19:30] <jharkn> reactor: I would say no as I would guess they are only for backup purposes in the case of no internet connection, but as I say, I'm no expert
[19:30] <rconan> pwrquest: i want to install ubuntu onto the fakeraid
[19:30] <mut80r> Kiwijoker: Broadcom 43 Wireless
[19:30] <shane2peru> Aperculum, no problem
[19:30] <reactor> i understand
[19:30] <Marfi> Odd-rationale, you'll have to enable the extra repositories, and you should be able to pick it up from there. i had to do that with my nvidia card
[19:30] <milly1234> if you are using an nvidia running nvidia-settings as sudo does a good job
[19:30] <KiwiJoker> mut80r damn sorry bud, i've never had that before :S
[19:30] <jharkn> wow, I used "I" alot :p
[19:30] <rconan> anyone else had any luck installing hardy onto a fakeraid?
[19:30] <mut80r> KiwiJoker: tis k. I'll google
[19:30] <peepsalot> pleas help: apt-get gives this error:  Unable to lock list directory
[19:30] <Dani> not for me, milly1234
[19:30] <didy> whats the codec to play mp3 plz
[19:30] <reactor> but it did not effect my hard disk space much as well. So one might choose to keep it for the time being
[19:30] <lch_> nixnoob: i had to start the update twice too, but now it is downloading
[19:31] <Odd-rationale> Marfi: I need wired connection then?
[19:31] <jharkn> rconan: I bought a new hd for ubuntu instead
[19:31] <bottiger> is the servers alive again?
[19:31] <Marfi> ***** for nvidia users, enable the extra repositories, and install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new depending on your card *****
[19:31] <lch_> peepsalot: you run it as root or with "sudo"?
[19:31] <Marfi> Odd-rationale, yes
[19:31] <reactor> Any linux gurus from Delhi, India?
[19:31] <peepsalot> lch_,
[19:31] <peepsalot> yes
[19:31] <jharkn> rconan: but I think it's technically possible
[19:31] <Dani> actually, nvidia-settings doesn't get higher than 800x600 milly1234
[19:31] <peepsalot> i am using sudo
[19:31] <nixnoob> lch_, i dunno it has the same behavior every time, i press "upgrade" and it greys out and does nothing till i kill it
[19:31] <milly1234> Dani, if you click advanced you can manually type in the resolution too, if you have not tried it already
[19:31] <Ranbee> didy: lookup mp3 at the ubuntu wiki
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[19:31] <rconan> jharkn: well... i have used all 7 sata ports so that isn't an option
[19:31] <Interflop> Ich: my card didn't show up in lspci
[19:31] <Odd-rationale> Marfi: do you happen to know if i can just get it from packages.ubuntu.com and put it on my thumb drive?
[19:31] <netcrusher88> is vmware-server going to be in hardy partner?
[19:31] <lch_> peepsalot: running an other package manager at the same time?
[19:31] <nixnoob> lch_, do you kno how to do it from terminal?
[19:31] <Dani> i have, milly1234
[19:31] <jharkn> reactor: is you HD filling itself up?
[19:32] <rconan> jharkn: it was doable with gutsy i believe so i just want to know if there are any quirks specific to hardy
[19:32] <milly1234> sorry then, I don't have an answer I know of
[19:32] <lch_> nixnoob: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade i think
[19:32] <Marfi> Odd-rationale, don't know if other files come in with it. but if you had all of the dependancies: yes
[19:32] <Dani> ok, thanks anyway
[19:32] <jharkn> reactor: if so, no amount of deleting will solve the underlying problem
[19:32] <Odd-rationale> Marfi: cool which package do I need?
[19:32] <peepsalot> lch_, not that I can see
[19:32] <josinalvo> maco: that is very cool, thanks. Can I add an "generic" CD to sources.list ? (even if I  need to do it by hand, it is not a problem)
[19:32] <josinalvo> would it make any difference (I did not download either yet ... I just want to save ubuntu.com the bandwith and use the torrent)
[19:32] <ddollar> anyone know what is up w/ archive.ubuntu.com
[19:32] <Marfi> Odd-rationale, don't know, never used broadcom drivers. =)
[19:32] <jharkn> rconan: ah, I see
[19:32] <Odd-rationale> Marfi: ok. thanks anyways...
[19:33] <dystopianray> ddollar: it is being hammered, it is release day
[19:33] <suxxor> E: mysql-server-5.0: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:33] <suxxor> E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[19:33] <lch_> peepsalot: did a package manager crash? if so, you may need to delete that lock file manually
[19:33] <suxxor> what`s the problem
[19:33] <maco> josinalvo: apt-cdrom
[19:33] <J_Humphrey> ddollar: I would assume that thousands of people are all trying to do exactly what you're trying to do
[19:33] <nixnoob> lch_, nah apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing.
[19:33] <ddollar> heh i didnt even realize it was release day
[19:33] <B3zso> I have an quastion please can some one help whit the monitor problem i have iam on ubuntu8.04 and on the monitor the screen are jumping  in the right size and dont know whats wrong..... please help me..
[19:33] <maco> ddollar: perhaps a million or so
[19:33] <ckpro> hey
[19:33] <ddollar> i was just trying to update a piece of software
[19:33] <Ranbee> the mirrors are really fast, i just downloaded 8.04 in about 10 minutes :|
[19:33] <ckpro> sup guys
[19:33] <ckpro> can somebody help me
[19:33] <cain297> hey guys - is there any vmware image for 8.04 available??
[19:33] <ckpro> please
[19:33] <FloodBot2> ckpro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <ckpro> Tried to install the ATI Linux Driver (for Radeon 9250) , tried all tuts on how to do it, and everyone of them, saying "X Server: unable to detect"..anyone know how to fix this ?
[19:33] <drivetrax> release day OR not.... the system is failing
[19:33] <suxxor> E: mysql-server-5.0: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:33] <suxxor> E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[19:33] <suxxor>  what to do
[19:33] <riddlebox> when will ubuntu go to the 2.6.25 kernel?
[19:33] <Interflop> My TV tuner isn't showing up in lspci.  What's going on?
[19:34] <peeps[work]> lch_, hmm, i found this with ps:   root      8216  0.0  0.0  16968  2048 ?        SN   10:12   0:00 apt-get -qq update -o APT::Update::Auth-Failure::=cp /usr/share/apt/apt-auth-failure.note /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/
[19:34] <jharkn> rconan: if you did it before then I guess its still doable but I don't really know that much detail sorry
[19:34] <didy> .....................
[19:34] <lch_> nixnoob: when you follow the hardy links on ubuntu.com there is a page about alternate ways to upgrade. but i prefer the update manager
[19:34] <alexz> guys, seems like my X is hanging... something in my gnome... not sure.... any ideas on how to diagnose??
[19:34] <dystopianray> riddlebox: it will use that or a later kernel in the next release, so 8.10
[19:34] <rwycuff> !ati | ckpro
[19:34] <ubotu> ckpro: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:34] <Mighty^^> All .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[19:34] <maco> riddlebox: 8.10 will bypass it, most likely
[19:34] <Comfortmeter>  Has anyone ever had the partition editor in Ubuntu 7.10 crash. When changeing "boot" mounting??
[19:34] <nixnoob> lch_, thanks
[19:34] <riddlebox> Interflop: I am having some issues with tv tuner cards, and compiling the v4l drivers with this kernel on hardy
[19:34] <B3zso> I have an quastion please can some one help whit the monitor problem i have iam on ubuntu8.04 and on the monitor the screen are jumping  in the right size and dont know whats wrong..... please help me..
[19:34] <eitreach> am I the only one just slightly dissappointed with HH so far?
[19:34] <tawt> can someone help me?  how do i add a folder link to the Places dropdown menu?
[19:35] <diego> Hi guys, i'm is new in Linux and Ubuntu to. My English is no good... But i'm need help...
[19:35] <peeps[work]> lch_, i'm not sure what that process is doing, should I kill it?
[19:35] <dystopianray> eitreach: why are you disappointed?
[19:35] <reactor> my hard disk is filling itself up by itself
[19:35] <jharkn> yeah, eit
[19:35] <lch_> peeps[work]: that is the aplication that periodically checks for upgrades maybe it is working right now and doing it slowly because of the server overload. you may terminate it, yes
[19:35] <Interflop> riddlebox: did you get any results yet?
[19:35] <tim__b> tawt, boomark them in nautilus
[19:35] <J_Humphrey> diego, just ask your question
[19:35] <didy> ............
[19:35] <Cygoku> Can I transfor a ntfs drive to ext3 without formating the driver ?!?!?!?!??!
[19:35] <eitreach> dystopianray, to me it feels like a journey back to the uncomfortable Linux-90's.
[19:35] <laiya> what is hardy heron ? is it better than gutsy gibbon ?? coz thats what i have ..
[19:35] <dystopianray> eitreach: in what way?
[19:35] <Interflop> hardy heron is just the newest release
[19:35] <peeps[work]> lch_, cool it is working again
[19:35] <peeps[work]> thanks
[19:36] <dystopianray> woah, firefox 3.0 has full page zoom
[19:36] <maco> diego: #ubuntu-es?
[19:36] <diego> I'm programer in PHP and instal PHPEclipse in my computer, but don't work perfect..
[19:36] <good_dana> whats the command to upgrade 7.10 to 8.04?
[19:36] <spartanii118> laiya:  it is the newest version of ubuntu
[19:36] <lch_> laiya: hope so, hardy is the next best ubuntu release :-)
[19:36] <kyxap> hi! http://paste.org.ru/?30yfqq its lates of x64 or no? Plz! Ansver me!
[19:36] <eitreach> dystopianray, I can only use one sound source at a time - and when I want to change that, I have to close the current sound source and restart the one I want to use next before being able to.
[19:36] <tawt> tim_b, how?
[19:36] <riddlebox> Interflop: well my pvr-500 is working fine, but I have a Pinnacle PCTV pci card that isnt working, it will in kernel 2.6.25 but I used to be able to just download the latest v4l drvers and install them and this kernel has issues with it, I reported it as a bug and hopefully it will be fixed soon
[19:36] <Comfortmeter>  Has anyone ever had the partition editor in Ubuntu 7.10 LIVE  crash. When changeing "boot" mounting??
[19:36] <Pabo_Papp> Is anyone having trouble downloading some repo indexes for gutsy?
[19:36] <dystopianray> eitreach: on yeah pulseaudio has really screwed things up
[19:36] <Odd-rationale> strange. i have wlan0 in iwconfig but not in ifconfig
[19:36] <kyxap> hi! http://paste.org.ru/?30yfqq its lates of x64 or no? Plz! Ansver me!
[19:36] <maco> dystopianray: pulseaudio is for fixing that
[19:36] <jharkn> reactor: well obviously you'll have to find the source; if you could find the large file(s) doing it then maybe you could tell what app is doing it?
[19:36] <Cygoku> Can I transfor a ntfs drive to ext3 without formating the driver ?!?!?!?!??!
[19:37] <Beererde> can only the alternate install cd to an upgrade?
[19:37] <B3zso> I have an quastion please can some one help whit the monitor problem i have iam on ubuntu8.04 and on the monitor the screen are jumping  in the right size and dont know whats wrong..... please help me..
[19:37] <maco> eitreach: is pulse running?
[19:37] <Nicekiwi9> i cant watch DVDs? the codecs screwed lots of green bars etc...
[19:37] <Odd-rationale> Cygoku: no you can not
[19:37] <eitreach> dystopianray, and apparently the nvidia-drivers haven't been fixed yet either.. I still get yellow or pink shadows in Compiz.
[19:37] <milly1234> I am taking a pinnicle pctv hd pci card back to the store... in like 30 minutes
[19:37] <jharkn> reactor: you could then sort that app out somehow
[19:37] <diego> My workspace is /home/diego/workspace don't work .... but i'm login with user root is work in /var/ww
[19:37] <zachb> askand: did you try madwifi?
[19:37] <nhuyanhuk> hey guys
[19:37] <tscolin> someone mentioned an ubuntu torrent
[19:37] <laiya> spartanii118: so if i download it .. is it hard to install
[19:37] <dystopianray> eitreach: that is a problem with nvidia, ubuntu devs can't do anything about it
[19:37] <maco> Nicekiwi9: try with mplayer.  there's some DRM that normal methods cant overcome, but mplayer can
[19:37] <tscolin> can someone link that ubuntu torrnt?
[19:37] <riddlebox> milly1234: they work and work good
[19:37] <zachb> tscolin: topic!
[19:37] <milly1234> just got it yesterday... it borked my webcam... and didn't work all that great
[19:37] <tscolin> oh duh4
[19:37] <maco> tscolin: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[19:37] <ConstyXIV> is it normal for wubi to take forever to "format swap space"?
[19:37] <tim__b> tscolin, http://tinyurl.com/6avfwz
[19:37] <jharkn> reactor: or terminate it as a temporary fix
[19:37] <dystopianray> diego: you should not be running eclipse as root
[19:37] <Beererde> ConstyXIV: disable swap
[19:37] <eitreach> dystopianray, still.. no-one had to fit them in this early with no fix in sight.
[19:37] <bort_> ive installed gISOmount, but i cant find where it is. how can i know that?
[19:38] <nhuyanhuk> I HAVE THIS PROBLEM GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[19:38] <nhuyanhuk> How to fix it ?
[19:38] <kyxap> hi! http://paste.org.ru/?30yfqq its lates of x64 or no? Plz! Ansver me!
[19:38] <ConstyXIV> Beererde: i'm installing it ATM
[19:38] <askand> zachb: I was under the impression that I dont need to do that? That it is included with ubuntu with the help of driversmanager
[19:38] <milly1234> infact even after I removed the card my webcams video doesn't work
[19:38] <Seveas> kyxap, stop repeating.
[19:38] <evand> ConstyXIV: not generally, but if it should crash or never finish, please file a bug at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug
[19:38] <kristian42> [ 2947.756400] gnome-keyring-d[7921]: segfault at 24 rip 42c63c rsp 7fff9b938f30 error 6
[19:38] <Beererde> ConstyXIV: there should be an option to install without swap
[19:38] <laiya> im new to ubuntu .. i recently switched from windows
[19:38] <Cygoku> I have 2 hard drive, the secondary one is ntfs and hardy heron only sees it trough Gparted, why ?!?!??!?!
[19:38] <kristian42> Anyone seen this ?
[19:38] <ConstyXIV> no option
[19:38] <riddlebox> milly1234: what problems do you have with the card?
[19:38] <legend2440> anyone having problem starting system>administration>Login Window in hardy. it starts to open the disappears. in hardy?
[19:38] <tawt> welcome laiya
[19:38] <bort_> or how can i run gISOmount in a terminal?
[19:38] <nhuyanhuk> any 1 have a solution for this : GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[19:38] <kyxap> Seveas, no ansver --> repeating
[19:38] <alexz> guys, my X with gnome is freezing after some time after login, I need help diagnosing.. any ideas??
[19:38] <alexz>  I have Ubuntu 7.10
[19:38] <alexz>  It was working ok until today
[19:38] <diego> yes i'm understend.. but URL : http://localhost/Locadora/Login.php  Not Found
[19:38] <dystopianray> eitreach: yeah it seems hardy has gone a bit crazy with unstable software versions, but it's only compiz it's not a big deal
[19:38] <Beererde> bort_: alt+f2
[19:38] <lch_> the bandwith monitor looks like a earthquake monitor, instead of a constant high donwload rate it has big rate changes, heh.
[19:39] <jharkn> Cygoku: can you mount it manually?
[19:39] <bort_> Beererde: problem is, it says i need to be root
[19:39] <legend2440> anyone having problem starting system>administration>Login Window in hardy. it starts to open then disappears.
[19:39] <milly1234> it took my /dev/video0 and that was what my webcam was on, and my webcam never showed up on any other video device
[19:39] <Beererde> can only the alternate install cd to an upgrade?
[19:39] <ConstyXIV> and when I tried wubi with RC, this machine would randomly go into a hard lock.
[19:39] <Beererde> do^
[19:39] <milly1234> this was on 7.10
[19:39] <nhuyanhuk> can some1 help me with Compix please
[19:39] <bullium> Beererde: any idea where those settings are located?
[19:39] <nhuyanhuk> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[19:39] <Beererde> bullium: which settings?
[19:39] <zachb> askand:yeah... by any chance, did you do Wubi?
[19:39] <Beererde> bort_: sudo
[19:39] <diabolix> I just installed 8.04, and it can't find the nvidia module. nothing sane seems to come up with 'locate nvidia' either. any ideas?
[19:39] <eitreach> dystopianray, it might just be a lot of small things, but they just add up to me.. I don't like the LTS-stamp on this at all. Honestly, I'm hoping it will be withdrawn and given a new release date. So many things will give the distro a bad name with the current release.
[19:39] <Beererde> bort_: sudo program
[19:39] <B3zso> I have an quastion please can some one help whit the monitor problem i have iam on ubuntu8.04 and on the monitor the screen are jumping  in the right size and dont know whats wrong..... please help me..
[19:40] <J_Humphrey> diabolix: google?
[19:40] <maco> diabolix: install it
[19:40] <Cygoku> jharkin ... what would be the command line to do that ??
[19:40] <laiya> is it difficult to install hardy heron on gutsy ??? im new to linux and since you say hardy is the latest how do i install it on gutsy ?
[19:40] <bort_> Beererde: on a terminal? already tried, says command not found
[19:40] <nhuyanhuk> how to expand desktop to another screen guys ?
[19:40] <shane2peru> anyone know where I can find a 386 desktop jigdo?
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[19:40] <Seveas> !upgrade | laiya
[19:40] <maco> laiya: update manager
[19:40] <ubotu> laiya: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[19:40] <B3zso> I have an quastion please can some one help whit the monitor problem i have iam on ubuntu8.04 and on the monitor the screen are jumping  in the right size and dont know whats wrong..... please help me..
[19:40] <HorizonXP> whoa
[19:40] <bullium> Beererde: shading with the mouse
[19:40] <iDN> hey everyone!
[19:40] <HorizonXP> almost 1700 people in here!
[19:40] <dystopianray> eitreach: i've had the opposite experience, although i use kubuntu, 7.10 was rather crap and buggy but 8.04 has improved vastly
[19:40] <Seveas> HorizonXP, we topped at 1708 ;)
[19:40] <diabolix> macd, how?
[19:40] <Beererde> bullium: just try the several plugins
[19:40] <HorizonXP> Seveas: hahahah, nice
[19:40] <TheSandman> hello
[19:40] <shane2peru>  HorizonXP did you count them??
[19:40] <rwycuff> B3zso , video card?
[19:40] <Beererde> bullium: maybe just the key changed
[19:40] <gub> I expect we'll hit 2000 later tonight
[19:40] <zachb> ! xinerama | nhuyanhuck
[19:40] <ubotu> nhuyanhuck: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[19:41] <diabolix> maco, how?
[19:41] <eitreach> dystopianray, I hope my experience isn't the general one, that's for sure.
[19:41] <laiya> ok so update manager can download and install it right
[19:41] <Seveas> gub, I bet 1800 :)
[19:41] <Beererde> bullium: should be called "shade" or somehting
[19:41] <daemon3> Hm.  I had to cancel my Ubuntu package download, and now the update manager doesn't say I need to upgrade to Hardy Heron.
[19:41] <milly1234> I was thinking of going with the pctvhd 5500 which was specifically designed for linux instead of the pinnicle card
[19:41] <ConstyXIV> Seveas: is that by chance a all-time #ubuntu record?
[19:41] <HorizonXP> shane2peru: I'm using Pidgin, which shows how many people in the room automatically
[19:41] <TheSandman> i  have a problem with my Atheros AR5006 wifi card
[19:41] <KiwiJoker> I tihnk in another two releases, ubuntu will be truly a force to rekon with on the plains of the desktop wars
[19:41] <Seveas> ConstyXIV, it is
[19:41] <diabolix> i thought nvidia drivers are installed by default?
[19:41] <iDN> how can i import my ff3b5f for windows bookmarks into ff3b5 for ubuntu?
[19:41] <B3zso> nvidia 420MX  nosrednaekim
[19:41] <diego> Apache/2.2.4 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.3-1ubuntu6 Server at localhost Port 80
[19:41] <diego> i'm need config. my Eclipse running in user not root but my workspace in /var/www
[19:41] <diego> this /var/www/ don't work in simple user....
[19:41] <Thezanke> ~cartographer3
[19:41] <FloodBot2> diego: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:41] <Seveas> releases tend to have that effect
[19:41] <shane2peru> HorizonXP, ohh, I was thinking, you were really bored, lol
[19:41] <Beererde> KiwiJoker: it is already
[19:41] <ConstyXIV> TheSandman: not showing up?
[19:41] <TheSandman> i just upgraded to hardy, and used to have madwifi
[19:41] <bort_> Beererde: sudo gISOmount in a terminal? already tried, says command not found
[19:41] <Myxb> TheSandman: mine works ok
[19:41] <KiwiJoker> Beerede not really
[19:41] <B3zso> nvidia 420MX  RWYCUFF
[19:41] <jharkn> Cygoku: "mount" try "man mount" for the manual
[19:41] <HorizonXP> I uploaded 10GB on torrents for you guys on my campus network. The admins are gonna have a fit!
[19:41] <daemon3> I keep hitting "Check"
[19:41] <Beererde> bort_: because the program is not called so
[19:41] <spartanii118> laiya, within a few days, it will prompt you to install updates(the little orange box )and therte will be an option to upgrade
[19:42] <kyxap> hi! http://paste.org.ru/?30yfqq its lates of x64 or no? Plz! Ansver me!
[19:42] <Seveas> HorizonXP, :)
[19:42] <Beererde> bort_: sudo g[tab]
[19:42] <shane2peru> anyone know when or where I will be able to find the 386 desktop jigdo file?
[19:42] <stder1> daemon3: It disappeared from my upgrade manager too after I did another apt-get update a couple hours ago
[19:42] <HorizonXP> shane2peru: I hope I'm NEVER that bored
[19:42] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: yes
[19:42] <rwycuff> !nvidia | B3zso
[19:42] <ubotu> B3zso: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:42] <ConstyXIV> TheSandman: did you have to compile it in in gutsy?
[19:42] <shane2peru> HorizonXP, right, lol :)
[19:42] <bort_> Beererde: how can i know how the program is called then?
[19:42] <rwycuff> !Xorg | B3zso
[19:42] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: yes, the madwifi drivers
[19:42] <ubotu> B3zso: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[19:42] <bort_> Beererde: i thought i was calle gISOmount
[19:42] <diego> ok
[19:42] <Beererde> bort_: giso[tab]
[19:42] <Beererde> bort_: or gI[tab]
[19:42] <Nicekiwi9> mplayer crashes
[19:42] <ConstyXIV> TheSandman: you'll have to compile them in again, because of the new kernel
[19:42] <Beererde> bort_: try around
[19:42] <Nicekiwi9> grr...
[19:42] <eitreach> bort_ gisomount, all small letters.
[19:42] <Nicekiwi9> even vlc dosent work
[19:42] <bort_> eitreach: gonna try
[19:43] <iDN> how can i import my ff3b5f for windows bookmarks into ff3b5 for ubuntu?
[19:43] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: the stupid part is that in the drivers section there appears to be atheros wifi support
[19:43] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: only it's not showing
[19:43] <bort_> eitreach: sweet, thx
[19:43] <suxxor> how can find the directory in which is installed the defalt mysql server ?
[19:43] <bort_> Beererde: thx
[19:43] <maco_> diabolix: restricted manager
[19:43] <iDN> how can i import my ff3b5f for windows vista bookmarks into ff3b5 for ubuntu?
[19:43] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: on network manager
[19:43] <J_Humphrey> iDN: you have to find where they are stored at
[19:43] <Beererde> bort_: you should get familiar with the tab key
[19:43] <ConstyXIV> iDN: you might be able to pull your entire profile over
[19:43] <eitreach> bort_ np. :)
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[19:43] <Pici> !repeat
[19:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:43] <bort_> heh, i will
[19:43] <HorizonXP> Seveas: you know what though, 1700 people are just the ones savvy enough to know/use IRC.... imagine how many are downloading right now and posting on the forum?
[19:43] <docgnome> can I do a cli install of ubuntu from the alternate cd the way I could from a mini cd?
[19:43] <suxxor> how can find the directory in which is installed the default mysql server ? somebody to help me
[19:43] <Pici> docgnome: yep
[19:43] <docgnome> cool. thanks.
[19:43] <stojic> iDN: Bookmarks -> organize boorkmaks -> File -> Export, then import in linux
[19:43] <maco> HorizonXP: oh dang.
[19:44] <iDN> J_Humphrey: already did, copied both .html files into my ubuntu installation.
[19:44] <JEEB> the site seems really loaded atm 8)
[19:44] <Seveas> HorizonXP, the torrent stats went over 10000 -- and those are only the people savvy enough to use torrents
[19:44] <iDN> stojic: i'll try. thank you.
[19:44] <rwycuff> suxxor:try whereis mysql
[19:44] <sammy> oh it's upgrade day. not a good day to come in with wierd EDID anomolies.
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[19:44] <pen> suxxor: I think you can set it yourself
[19:44] <reactor> can anybody suggest a fast server to download Ubuntu 8
[19:44] <HorizonXP> Seveas: yeah, that's ridiculous
[19:44] <ddollar> is there any way to point the do-release-upgrade command at a mirror?
[19:44] <alex314> I LOVE HARDY!!
[19:44] <tunisiano> hi :D
[19:44] <JEEB> reactor, torrent network?
[19:44] <reactor> can anybody suggest a fast server to download Ubuntu 8
[19:44] <ConstyXIV> reactor: a torrent
[19:44] <HorizonXP> could it be..... Hardy Heron launch >>>> Vista launch?
[19:44] <Nicekiwi9> I HATE HARDY!!
[19:44] <alex314> Everything works for me!
[19:44] <katakaio> B3zso: could you repeat the question, going step-by-step through your problem?
[19:44] <pen> lol
[19:44] <JEEB> HorizonXP, that's possible ^^
[19:44] <alex314> Nicekiwi9, why?
[19:44] <ConstyXIV> reactor: or metalink
[19:45] <Slart> Ubuntu supports ipv6, right? Could I run my own ipv6 network at home and let the gateway "translate"/NAT/"do the voodoo that only it does" ? Do network switches even care if I run ipv4 or ipv6 through them?
[19:45] <Nicekiwi9> many problems :(
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[19:45] <katakaio> Sorry, nevermind
[19:45] <HorizonXP> JEEB: it'd be really interesting the stats
[19:45] <iDN> i have to disconnect, i'm on ubuntu. cu
[19:45] <alex314> Nicekiwi, like what?
[19:45] <Slart> !ipv6
[19:45] <daemon3> I want Hardy. :(
[19:45] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[19:45] <Seveas> HorizonXP, I've heard from reliable sources that ubuntu release in the passed caused nationwide interbet-cloggings in smaller, less well connected countries
[19:45] <pen> Nicekiwi9: you can always solved it
[19:45] <alex314> for me Hardy works perfect
[19:45] <nass> Anyone here could help me set up 2 screen display on my laptop on ubuntu Hardy ?
[19:45] <rick111> what do you ubuntu users user for SVN software?
[19:45] <alex314> that's right
[19:45] <Nicekiwi9> 3 hours later... not yet :(
[19:45] <spartanii118> reactor: use the torrents, mirrored on theark.endoftheinternet.org
[19:45] <ConstyXIV> rick111: svn
[19:45] <JEEB> dang, I can't read the text well as it's going off so fast -.-
[19:45] <maco_> Seveas: where are stats?
[19:45] <HorizonXP> Seveas: that would not surprise me! lol
[19:45] <alex314> 2 displays is a pain in the ass
[19:45] <sammy> Seveas: I just had to wait a good minute or so to download a single package from us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:46] <Seveas> HorizonXP, but we won't be satisfied until the blip show up in major transit carriers :)
[19:46] <alex314> a friend of mine is struggling with the 2 display problem atm
[19:46] <rick111> ConstyXIV: i search svn on software tools, it said there were none
[19:46] <jadams> how would I set my desktop background (multiple monitors) to a fullsize view of a web page?
[19:46] <lch_> Seveas: so hows the term translated, "slahsdotted" -> "ubuntoted"? ;-)
[19:46] <Nicekiwi9> resalution errors, and ubuntu has hidden the graphics card config module very helpfully
[19:46] <diego> Sorry, but have one persona user PHPeclipse in Ubuntu?
[19:46] <Seveas> sammy, archive mirrors will be slow as hell for a while, but that's not general internet cloggings :)
[19:46] <nass> alex314: My "only" pb is that the automatic conf tool does not propose the screen resolution...
[19:46] <riddlebox> alex314, I have three monitors hooked up right now
[19:46] <wynd> I've got a question -- I installed the new Ubuntu this morning and after a while I get errors like "ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }" and my CPU load goes up to like 10, can anyone give me some tips?
[19:46] <ConstyXIV> rick111: Add/Remove or synaptic?
[19:46] <HorizonXP> alex314: I'm running two 22" displays at 1680x1050 on Hardy right now
[19:46] <dystopianray> sammy: try the german mirrors, they worked for me
[19:46] <Seveas> lch_, a nationwide slashdotting, sounds good :)
[19:46] <Seveas> better than a nationwide rickroll
[19:47] <Pusselgenerator> I've seeded 231 GB on the torrents now... Ouch
[19:47] <nonks> hey everyone
[19:47] <User2005> lol
[19:47] <J_Humphrey> its a linux roll Seveas
[19:47] <sammy> Seveas: it's true. dystopianray: not a bad idea. I'm in seattle, there should be some decent canadian mirrors
[19:47] <HorizonXP> alex314: but it's an Nvidia card, which has its own config tool, so YMMV
[19:47] <ConstyXIV> i think slashdotting is one hell of a understatement
[19:47] <B3zso> katakaio ... my problem is thet the screen are jumping if its come to some black backgrouund and i think i need to fix the X but i dont realy know why coz other linux OS are not doing it just only this ubuntu....
[19:47] <rick111> add/remove
[19:47] <nonks> i need help with the new ubuntu 8.04
[19:47] <dystopianray> sammy: just try differnet countries till you find one that works
[19:47] <Mimi> !ask | monks
[19:47] <ubotu> monks: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[19:47] <riddlebox> HorizonXP: thats what I have for my 3 monitor setup, two nvidia cards
[19:47] <timUR123> Can't wait till 8.10 comes out !!!
[19:47] <blue-frog__> suxxor: dpkg -L mysql-server-5.0
[19:47] <maco_> B3zso: its the newest version of X...some big changes took place.   if you run "xrandr --auto" what happens?
[19:47] <OllieA> Hi, when I use the command " sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in Terminal it displays this error: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080424194550" How can I fix?
[19:48] <KiwiJoker> timUR123 forget 8.10! what about 10.10!!
[19:48] <Pici> OllieA: Thats not an error.
[19:48] <maco_> OllieA: that command is for old versions of X
[19:48] <maco_> OllieA: use xfix instea
[19:48] <maco_> *instead
[19:48] <Mimi> OllieA: thats not a error and its perfectly fine :D
[19:48] <mrpoundsign> 14.28 for me!
[19:48] <stefg> timUR123: you'll be disappointed... 8.10 will be a playing ground for new concepts and will give lots of grief
[19:48] <nonks> how to get 1280x1024 screen resoltion in buntu 8.04?
[19:48] <ConstyXIV> rick111: try "sudo apt-get install subversion" in a terminal
[19:48] <Pici> maco_: xfix?
[19:48] <B3zso> maco nothing it will be same.. something jumping dont know why.. i have 8.04 TLS but same 7.10 there it was the same problem..
[19:48] <timUR123> KiwiJoker, I feel that 10.10 will defintely rock !
[19:48] <rick111> thanks
[19:49] <blue|palm> is anyone on hardy experiencing problems with the ati driver? xv didnt work in the beginning (I had to mess around in xorg.conf) and then after that now i get a flickering (black-video-black-video etc.) playback while in compiz. This flickering happens to other apps where opengl is used too (like glxgears and blender) - but all only in compiz. anyone else get this?
[19:49] <DrX> please can someone assist with GUI failure "Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.com"?
[19:49] <maco_> Pici: i think...thats what one of the other forum mods said...
[19:49] <OllieA> Mimi: In the guide I am reading it says there should be some options come up, what!?
[19:49] <zachb> askand: did you try the eee fix?
[19:49] <J_Humphrey> nonks: we need more info, like what kind of video card
[19:49] <HorizonXP> riddlebox: this is a laptop though, so not quite possible. the fact that it has a DVI port AND VGA port is nothing short of miraculous
[19:49] <flexxall> if i am running 8.04 already is there any reason to get the new release ?
[19:49] <RoAkSoAx> flexxall, no just update
[19:49] <HorizonXP> riddlebox: though I would LOVE it if I could use the built-in screen too, thus making it 3
[19:49] <nonks> i have an integrated video card
[19:49] <rick111> looks like that's working ConstyXIV - thanks
[19:49] <ConstyXIV> flexxall: just check for updates, and you'll be good
[19:49] <flexxall> greatht hanx
[19:49] <maco_> OllieA: its an outdated guide
[19:49] <lch_> flexxall: rust run the update manager and you will be fine
[19:49] <Pusselgenerator> blue|palm: Yeah... have the same problem at my other computer... I have no idea about a solution to it :/
[19:49] <flexxall> great thanx even
[19:49] <Mimi> OllieA: if you got that far, where it says "im going to overwritte this filie ok?", then you've completed the setup
[19:50] <maco_> OllieA: that command does not give options anymore and hasnt since feisty
[19:50] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, great :-/
[19:50] <Arelis> Hello everybody. How do i get my Wacom Bamboo Fun (which is a tablet, used for drawing pictures on a computer) to work with Ubuntu Hardy? It should work out of the box, right?
[19:50] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, silly drivers :-(
[19:50] <Pady92> My ubuntu hardy boot only works with nosplash. How to modify bootscreen
[19:50] <HorizonXP> hey, where's the setting to turn off audible beeps?
[19:50] <Seveas> Arelis, it should, or at least mostly should
[19:50] <maco_> Mimi: in gutsy and hardy, that command *only* backs up xorg.conf. it does nto reconfigure it at all
[19:50] <Mimi> Anyone know how to turn off join/part messages in Pidgin?
[19:50] <JEEB> I can't wait to try 8.04 on my laptop 8) To see if the wireless has gone faster and if the audio/video works properly
[19:50] <xsubzerox> Is there a reason why the package server is slow.
[19:50] <laiya> so what is beryl ... how is it different from gutsy gibbon and hardy heron ???
[19:50] <ConstyXIV> xsubzerox: its release day
[19:51] <OllieA> Mimi, maco_, This guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto" and the section labled "Adjust Only Resolution Settings on Dell Laptop"
[19:51] <dystopianray> xsubzerox: thousands of people are trying to use it
[19:51] <woodwizzle> twanj_: Maybe you know how to do this. I have the downthemall extension for firefox. When I click on a metalink firefox just opens it as a txt file. and if I manually add it to downthemall, it downloads the metalink, it doesn't USE the metalink
[19:51] <Pusselgenerator> blue|palm: yeah.. I'll let you know if I find anything that works though.
[19:51] <dmb> when do the docs on help.ubuntu.com for 8.10 come out?
[19:51] <Seveas> xsubzerox, dunno, maybe a new release went out today and everybody is downloading
[19:51] <Seveas> but that's just a wild guess
[19:51] <KiwiJoker> JEEP lol@"see if the wireless has gone faster"
[19:51] <HorizonXP> nvm, found it
[19:51] <ConstyXIV> xsubzerox: go to software sources and try a close/far mirror
[19:51] <J_Humphrey> mimi, go to the main pidgin window, and go to tools>preferences then go to the sound tab
[19:51] <Pici> maco_: Ah, it seems to be an option in recovery mode, not an actual command
[19:51] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, thanks
[19:51] <mrpoundsign> xsubzerox: everyone and their mother is updating? :) It might be worth trying to bittorrent the CD/DVD and upgrade form there.
[19:51] <JEEB> KiwiJoker, I did some comparison with XP & ubuntu 7.10
[19:51] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, if you are here often, ill let you know if i find something too. going to go check out phoronix for a fix now
[19:51] <JEEB> The speed difference was not so good :/
[19:52] <strtok> anyone know the easiest way to create a permanant mount of a cifs share in hardy? smbfs?
[19:52] <Arelis> Seveas: It doesn't. It doesn't do a thing when i wave my pen over it or click with it. How do i enable it? (I installed the wacom-tools package, but haven't rebooted yet - did a modprobe wacom though, but still no /dev/input/wacom)
[19:52] <Pusselgenerator> blue|palm: I'll be connected here all the time I'm at my computer, so... I'll write down your nick so that I'll remember
[19:52] <KiwiJoker> JEEP It probably wont be either my friend ;-)
[19:52] <D> !info wine hardy
[19:52] <NeT_DeMoN> i have a question, i have an Atheros wireless network driver and i didnt have it on during the installation of hardy, should i have had it on and is there a way to install it without a fresh install?
[19:52] <RoyK> How does Ubuntu server compare with Debian?
[19:52] <twistage> I had 12 gb of data under filesystem in Gutsy and now when I look under Hardy it says I have 4 gb with some contents unreadable, wtf? Did the upgrade destroy some of my data? I also thought my sound was broken and I come to find out my MP3s were corrupt in some parts
[19:52] <wx9j> I have linux on a second hard drive, can I get grub to work for both the windows drive, and the linux drive ?
[19:52] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, thanks a lot
[19:52] <ubotu> wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.59-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 11455 kB, installed size 53620 kB
[19:52] <JEEB> Probably because of the drivers for this (probably Realtek) stuff I have, but still - it pretty much made me use XP with the wireless
[19:52] <OllieA> Mimi, This guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto" and the section labled "Adjust Only Resolution Settings on Dell Laptop"
[19:52] <maco__> Pici: oh ok
[19:52] <dystopianray> argh ubuntu has detected my onboard sound card even though it is disabled in the bios
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[19:53] <Pusselgenerator> blue|palm: :) No worries, I want the solution too :D
[19:53] <maw> how can I verify fglrx driver is fully removed from my system?
[19:53] <KiwiJoker> JEEP thats like saying a car can only go 100kmph, but will go faster depending on the driver
[19:53] <J_Humphrey> maw: go to snypatic and search for glrx
[19:53] <bts3685> SO! who's running ibex?
[19:53] <JEEB> KiwiJoker, I got really bad latency
[19:53] <JEEB> On Ubuntu
[19:53] <maco> OllieA: its outdated.
[19:53] <KiwiJoker> JEEP thats wireless for you
[19:53] <laiya> hey im new to ubuntu can someone please help me understand a few things please
[19:53] <excitatory> does anyone know if that keyboard bug (in a ATI, fglrx / XGL setup) has been fixed in the new release?
[19:54] <maw> J_Humphrey: is there a lower level way of doing it? On shell? modprobe maybe?
[19:54] <J_Humphrey> laiya, like what?
[19:54] <Gioacchino> hello
[19:54] <OllieA> maco: How can I achieve those results then?
[19:54] <excitatory> laiya: sure, just ask your questions and peoples will answer
[19:54] <mrpoundsign> laiya: shoot! :)
[19:54] <J_Humphrey> maw: i don't know
[19:54] <Gioacchino> I installed hardy
[19:54] <JEEB> KiwiJoker, but since I don't get as much on XP I guess it was a driver issue. I'm not a complete idiot you know
[19:54] <Gioacchino> but now I have a problem that I don't have with gutsy..
[19:54] <Gioacchino> at boot
[19:54] <JEEB> Or then my TCP/IP settings were wrong
[19:54] <JEEB> Who knows
[19:54] <Arelis> Seveas: If you read my previous message, do you know how to get it to work?
[19:54] <KiwiJoker> JEEP hehe ok
[19:54] <JEEB> (I used them clear after install)
[19:54] <Gioacchino> it make some error with hd
[19:54] <Gioacchino> and it try for 15 minutes before start..
[19:54] <twistage> How do you run disk check from terminal?
[19:55] <Gioacchino> I have a jmicron sata controller..
[19:55] <Gioacchino> how to fix?
[19:55] <KiwiJoker> JEEP this is going on bash.org btw lol
[19:55] <XceII> twistage:  sudo touch /forcefsck
[19:55] <Pici> !fsck | twistage
[19:55] <ubotu> twistage: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[19:55] <wynd> Gioacchino: what error?
[19:55] <JEEB> KiwiJoker, please 8)
[19:55] <Gioacchino> like
[19:55] <livingdaylight> so, what's new in hardy besides the new background?
[19:55] <Gioacchino> ata8.00
[19:55] <laiya> J_Humphrey: firstly i need to know is it entirely necessary to upgrade to hardy heron .. im new and recently switched from XP .. is hardy better than gutsy ??
[19:55] <Gioacchino> STRS failed
[19:55] <maco> OllieA: you jsut want to change your resolution?
[19:55] <Gioacchino> and some other
[19:55] <wynd> Gioacchino: DRDY ERR?
[19:55] <twistage> Thanks guys
[19:56] <Ax3> anybody else having problems installing software via apt or synaptic?
[19:56] <Gioacchino> I can see it only in installation
[19:56] <maco> OllieA: xrandr -s 1024x768 <-- insert whatever resolution you actually want
[19:56] <reactor> gioacchino, perhaps "fsck" might help you
[19:56] <tumbleweed05> this is awesome! congrats ubuntu!
[19:56] <gregbrady> Wow, the upgrade went well!  Wireless works!  My only issue is that my compiz-fusion effects are very, very slow now, on an ATI Xpress 200 card.  Anyone else with that problem that has found a solution?
[19:56] <Gioacchino> because now I see kubuntu splash note list of error..
[19:56] <ais523> my upgrade just failed, I think
[19:56] <wtoptech> quit
[19:56] <wynd> Gioacchino: i'm getting similar errors, no one seems to know why
[19:56] <wtoptech> exit
[19:56] <JEEB> gregbrady, nice of saying that Xpress 200 works 8)
[19:56] <Gioacchino> with gutsy it boot in 30sec...
[19:56] <ais523> I got lots of error messages about the interaction between libstdc++ and gcc
[19:56] <maco> gregbrady: is "dont use ati" a solution?
[19:56] <gogeta> yay 8.04 is out
[19:56] <JEEB> Now I know I can use my X1100 as well, probably
[19:56] <gregbrady> jeeb, sure does!
[19:56] <Gioacchino> with hardy 15min 30 sec...
[19:56] <ibleed> laiya, its not necessary.  you might as well do it though its not difficult.  hardy gets 3 years support on desktop and 5 for servers
[19:56] <gogeta> :)
[19:56] <ais523> and now the installer has just hanged
[19:56] <gregbrady> maco, um, no
[19:56] <ais523> there's no text in its window at all
[19:56] <bremby> hey, if I downloaded the iso, can I somehow make it upgrade my 7.10?
[19:57] <OllieA> maco: Yeah but the option I want isn't there
[19:57] <J_Humphrey> laiya: Hardy just got released today, so it's not critical, but its nice to have the most recent version, but hardy does have long term support
[19:57] <myf> hi, i wonder why when i run apt-get dist-upgrade it shows nothing
[19:57] <dny_> How do I know what filesystem I am using? :x
[19:57] <Gioacchino> wynd: yes also DRDY error
[19:57] <gord_slater> laiya: wel, if u want to wait, that's fine, maybe a month will be easier, more help for minor problems on the websites etc, if you have a spare (maybe older) computer you could try it now, but remember, we're all learning new trick here too :)
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[19:57] <tumbleweed05> bremby: when you burn it to a cd.
[19:57] <towlie> hi
[19:57] <maco> OllieA: you want a resolution thats not in your mode list?
[19:57] <towlie> im on 7.10
[19:57] <tumbleweed05> hey towlie.
[19:57] <OllieA> maco: Yup
[19:57] <gregbrady> maco, it worked really well in 7.10
[19:57] <towlie> and i am looking forwarding to upgrading to 8.04
[19:57] <tumbleweed05> i'm on mac os x tiger.
[19:57] <strtok> i need a sources.list for a source that isn't pegged
[19:57] <strtok> :P
[19:57] <excitatory> maco: heh, sure if you're talking about a desktop.. but on a laptop, that's an obtuse thing to say (even though you're absolutely correct)
[19:57] <tumbleweed05> i need a blank cd!
[19:57] <maco> OllieA: lemme check the xrandr manpage
[19:57] <bremby> tumbleweed05: yes, but what then? boot from it?
[19:57] <towlie> tumbleweed05, i have a dual boot between leopard and ubuntu 7.10
[19:57] <tumbleweed05> i have none.
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[19:57] <Ax3> anybody else having problems installing software via apt or synaptic?
[19:57] <tumbleweed05> bremby: ya.
[19:57] <OllieA> maco: OK
[19:58] <stder1> wynd: I don't know too much about it, but it's probably a kernel thing... maybe it's logging more device errors - could be a change in driver or something...
[19:58] <User2005> ////////////////////////////sound driver ?
[19:58] <Pusselgenerator> Ax3: What's the problem?
[19:58] <reactor> gioacchino: you may try "fsck" command at Konsole
[19:58] <tumbleweed05> towlie: i have a powerpc mac. i'm saving up for a macbook. then i'll have hardy.
[19:58] <Arelis> !ubuntu-release-party
[19:58] <ANTDx1> so uh
[19:58] <gogeta>  Ax3 thats the joy of relese day apt dies
[19:58] <maco> excitatory: i dont get it.  pay extra for ati and nvidia cards which are pain in the rear or just use onboard intel which work like a charm....how is this a hard decision?
[19:58] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[19:58] <gogeta> :P
[19:58] <ANTDx1> anybody know why my update manager freezes every time I try to upgrade?
[19:58] <reactor> whats hady used for?
[19:58] <myf> Ax3: i tried dist-upgrade it did not show anything new
[19:58] <towlie> ok so whats the command to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[19:58] <Dani> hi again!, i just made a clean amd64 hardy heron install. I have a nvidia card (6 series) and a 22'' widescreen lcd (lg l225ws). Before installing restricted modules the max resolution detected was 800x600, installing the restricted modules got compiz working but max resolution decreased to 640x480. I tried forcing the pannig using nvidia-settings but it didn't work either. Can please give me a hand. It worked flawlessly in gutsy gibbon.
[19:58] <ais523> ANTDx1: no, but I'm having the same problem
[19:58] <Arelis> !release-party
[19:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about release-party - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:58] <bremby> tumbleweed05: but I don't want clean install, or how do I make it upgrade my current installation?
[19:58] <wynd> stder1: no, it's not just logging, something happens where it takes forever (~5 minutes) to access anything off the drive that isn't already in RAM
[19:58] <Ax3> Pusselgenerator: everything fails heh, i guess it's because of the high server load
[19:58] <gogeta> ANTDx1 yep as i said
[19:58] <J_Humphrey> reactor: its used for a lot of things
[19:58] <gregbrady> antdx1, give it time.....mine did the same
[19:58] <Pusselgenerator> ANTDx1: Parhaps the servers are having a difficult time at the moment...
[19:58] <Pici> !party | Arelis
[19:58] <ubotu> Arelis: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[19:58] <kbrooks> towlie, don't
[19:58] <laiya> gord_slater:, J_Humphrey: is it difficult to install it on gutsy gibbon ?
[19:58] <reactor> whats "hardy used for?
[19:58] <Gioacchino> fsck 1.40.8 (13-Mar-2008)
[19:58] <Gioacchino> fsck.ext3: Impossibile risolvere 'UUID=49a9e748-303f-4742-a07b-ab17208f78ce'
[19:58] <towlie> kbrooks, why not
[19:58] <Pusselgenerator> Ax3: yeah, you're right there, I believe
[19:58] <gord_slater> laiya: also,  this version has LTS- Long Term Support, of 3 years (until 2011) for the Desktop version, so it will be better in the long term. I run many systems with ubuntu and other types of linux, I'm waiting a month or so before i upgrade/install on critical/production "important" machines, if that's a help,
[19:58] <Arelis> Pici: thanks
[19:58] <tumbleweed05> bremby: um i think it'll give you the option of upgrading.
[19:59] <ais523> Pusselgenerator: it's nothing to do with the servers in my case
[19:59] <ANTDx1> Difficult time?  Only millions of updates going on at once =P
[19:59] <Arelis> !party | Everybody
[19:59] <ubotu> Everybody: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Hardy release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseParties
[19:59] <Gioacchino> reactor:
[19:59] <Pici> Arelis: ...
[19:59] <tumbleweed05> sooo many people talking. holy crap.
[19:59] <ais523> because it happened well after everything was downloaded
[19:59] <gogeta> !party
[19:59] <Pusselgenerator> ais523: Do you get any errors?
[19:59] <Myxb> can't get it... is the fully upgraded 8.04RC = 8.04 release? i've got no upgrade today
[19:59] <LordCrimson> hello. I've just updated and got a problem, when gnome initializes it tells "Unable to initialize HAL"
[19:59] <kbrooks> towlie, if you want 8.10, simply download it.
[19:59] <Pici> Myxb: Yes.
[19:59] <gregbrady> ANTDx1, yup, it will work for you.  At least it did for me!
[19:59] <LordCrimson> where to dig for that
[19:59] <ANTDx1> ok, i'll wait on it
[19:59] <ais523> Pusselgenerator: I had lots of errors about libstdc++ and gcc version earlier
[19:59] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino sounds like you got a UID mismatch in fstab
[19:59] <towlie> kbrooks but i dont want to do a fresh install
[19:59] <J_Humphrey> laiya: So you already have gutsy installed, but want to update to hardy?
[19:59] <ais523> can't remember the exact text
[19:59] <Pici> kbrooks: Why are you telling people not to do upgrades?
[19:59] <ais523> now, the window's just gone blank
[19:59] <towlie> J_Humphrey, i want to do that
[19:59] <mrpoundsign> tumbleweed05: are you contributing to the signal or the noise? :P
[19:59] <tumbleweed05> ok confused about the downloads Amd64 can be used for 64bit intel chips right?
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> or amd only.
[20:00] <myf> anybody made it through  dist-upgrade?
[20:00] <towlie> upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> mrpoundsign: both.
[20:00] <maco> OllieA: ok in the manpage it says to use --newmode and then give a name and the modeline that would go in xorg.conf
[20:00] <Bernard_Minet> !fr
[20:00] <Gioacchino> KiwiJoker:  how to fix it??
[20:00] <Pici> tumbleweed05: 64bit any
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> lol.
[20:00] <laiya> J_Humphrey: i wouldn't mind if its more user friendly
[20:00] <guillaume_> whats the md5 sum of 8.04 please ?! thanks !
[20:00] <gord_slater> not really, although the servers are quite busy right now, but as long as you have Gutsy (7.10) it should be a "supported method" , so it should "just work", haha :)
[20:00] <Arelis> Pici: Would you want to help me get my tablet to work?
[20:00] <kbrooks> Pici, i'm suggesting that it may be a better use of his time to fresh install.
[20:00] <Slart> tumbleweed05: yes.. amd64 for all 64bit chips
[20:00] <Pusselgenerator> asi523: Oh.. Well, I'm quite new to ubuntu (been around since 7.04) so.. I can't really answer that :/
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> thanks pici
[20:00] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:00] <Pici> Arelis: I'm not free to do that right now
[20:00] <maco> OllieA: they you run xrandr again with --addmode to add it to whichever screen you want
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> thanks Slart
[20:00] <Arelis> Pici: okay
[20:00] <Bernard_Minet> !fr
[20:00] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: it worked, thanks
[20:00] <kbrooks> Pici, to "upgrade" from 7.04 to 8.04
[20:00] <towlie> ok so whats the command to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[20:00] <OllieA> maco: Done yet?
[20:00] <gregbrady> ANTDx1, mine took about 5-10 minutes to begin the process.  Greyed out the whole time.
[20:00] <ais523> could someone here tell me how to mount a USB stick when the automounter isn't working?
[20:00] <Pici> Bernard_Minet: /j #ubuntu-fr
[20:00] <TheSandman> ConstyXIV: see ya
[20:00] <lch_> tumbleweed05: the 64 bit release works fine on my Core2 Duo machine
[20:00] <Slart> !upgrade | towlie
[20:00] <ubotu> towlie: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:00] <maco> OllieA: i just gave you directions...
[20:00] <Dani> hi again!, i just made a clean amd64 hardy heron install. I have a nvidia card (6 series) and a 22'' widescreen lcd (lg l225ws). Before installing restricted modules the max resolution detected was 800x600, installing the restricted modules got compiz working but max resolution decreased to 640x480. I tried forcing the pannig using nvidia-settings but it didn't work either. Can please give me a hand. It worked flawlessly in gutsy gibbon.
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> good.
[20:00] <kbrooks> towlie, oh sorry....
[20:00] <ais523> that way at least I can back up /home and restart
[20:00] <D> is there something like WINE to use mac apps on hardy?
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> need macbook asap lol.
[20:00] <Bernard_Minet> Merci Pici
[20:00] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino on the ubuntu site, there should be a section in community docs about fstab, its to much to type to explain here
[20:00] <tumbleweed05> but i gotta shower. bbs.
[20:00] <YgorOnLine> hello
[20:00] <maco> D: not that i know of
[20:00] <kbrooks> towlie, i completely misread
[20:00] <KiwiJoker> !fstab
[20:01] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[20:01] <trinity93> who asked about x64?
[20:01] <YgorOnLine> the servers of ubuntu are soo lazy today, or only here?
[20:01] <J_Humphrey> laiya: I don't understand what you're trying to do, do you already have gutsy installed on a partition?
[20:01] <Slart> D: nothing that I've heard of
[20:01] <kbrooks> towlie, umm
[20:01] <towlie> kbrooks ?
[20:01] <Arelis> Anyone want to help me get my tablet to work? It's a Wacom Bamboo Fun. I installed the "wacom-tools" package and did "modprobe wacom" but i still don't have /dev/input/wacom (which indicates if the system detects it or not). When i wave my pen over it it does nothing.
[20:01] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino there you go
[20:01] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I'm having serious problems on my Dell Inspiron 1420 after upgrading to 8.04. My sound does not work anymore and when I click the icon, I get the message "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[20:01] <maco> YgorOnLine: not lazy.  hammered. and i dont mean alcohol.
[20:01] <guillaume_> whats the md5 sum of 8.04 please ?! thanks !
[20:01] <Gioacchino> KiwiJoker: thanks
[20:01] <jburd> What does the Ubuntu DVD contain more than the CD?
[20:01] <laiya> J_Humphrey: is it much different ?
[20:01] <twanj_> woodwizzle: you can right click the metalink URL and select Save link w/ DTA or Start saving w/ DTA oneclick
[20:01] <OllieA> maco: Can we go into a seperate chat coz I am getting confused with everone else
[20:01] <gord_slater> laiya: bear in mind that in a week or two all this chaos will calm down a little, if it seems quite scary right now, so if you're nervous, maybe better to wait a little :)
[20:01] <Pusselgenerator> ais523: I usually use "Storage Device Manager", it's in Add/Remove applications
[20:01] <towlie> ahh too much talking in here!
[20:01] <Slart> jburd: lots of packages
[20:01] <mooboo1> 9,5 gb uploaded on torrent :D
[20:01] <myf> hi                anybody made it through  dist-upgrade?
[20:01] <YgorOnLine> and can i to ask for free cd's today?
[20:01] <wx9j> how do I check my ipconfig from bash ?
[20:01] <ais523> Pusselgenerator: I'm in the middle of a dist upgrade here
[20:01] <Pici> !anyone | myf
[20:01] <ubotu> myf: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:01] <ConstyXIV> anyone out there by chance have a precompiled package for the eee's AR5007 wifi drivers?
[20:01] <ais523> so I need to do things by hand
[20:01] <ais523> can't install or uninstall software
[20:01] <Pici> wx9j: type ifconfig
[20:02] <ais523> and the automounter has been stopped
[20:02] <J_Humphrey> laiya: Gutsy is the old version, released 6 months ago, while hardy is the new vesion, released today
[20:02] <twanj_> guillaume_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS
[20:02] <laiya> yeah i guess ill wait
[20:02] <Slart> jburd: it's a good alternative if you want to save your internet-connection for other things.. =)
[20:02] <maco> OllieA: PM
[20:02] <YgorOnLine> thanks
[20:02] <jburd> Slart: Ah
[20:02] <insane_alien> Can anyone help me try and recover some data off a USB Flashdrive?
[20:02] <wx9j> Pici thanks
[20:02] <ibleed> Cheesasaurus_Rex, no gstreamer?  sounds like your missing audio codecs.
[20:02] <ANTDx1> Mine is doing that at the moment, gregbrady
[20:02] <kbrooks> towlie, you can upgrade manually (possibly graphically?), but please be aware that the mirrors are slow now
[20:02] <myf> .....
[20:02] <lch_> apropos EEE is it supported? is there an official hardware compatibility list?
[20:02] <maco> wx9j: ifconfig
[20:02] <Lunks> ubuntu servers are so slow right now... =\
[20:02] <insp12> yeah they are
[20:02]  * mgedmin was smart and downloaded the hardy debs yesterday
[20:02] <Arelis> Anyone want to help me get my tablet to work? It's a Wacom Bamboo Fun. I installed the "wacom-tools" package and did "modprobe wacom" but i still don't have /dev/input/wacom (which indicates if the system detects it or not). When i wave my pen over it it does nothing.
[20:02] <towlie> slart that site doesnt mention 7.10 to 8.04
[20:02] <Lunks> how long after a release do they become stable?
[20:02] <excitatory> maco: well sometimes one just ends up with these cards.. i'm rather poor, and a friend gave me his old computer for my birthday, which has a ati card.. eventually when i get caught up on bills and such, i can afford to change the card, but until then i'm stuck.. so it's not fair to assume everyone can just choose what hardware they're using.
[20:03] <J_Humphrey> I'm so glad I have /home on a seperate partition
[20:03] <laiya> so which of all the linux os' would ya say is the best and fastest ?
[20:03] <gregbrady> ANTDx1, it will work.  I started mine around 1:00 this afternoon.  Things might have gotten busier now.
[20:03] <gord_slater> laiya:not really difficult to upgrade at all (there should be soon appearing in your upgrade manager "orange star" thing a bit that saya "A New Distibution/Version Is Available" or something similar, it may take a day or two, although the servers are quite busy right now, but as long as you have Gutsy (7.10) it should be a "supported method" , so it should "just work", haha :)
[20:03] <insp12> I am not sure, I was able to get the release with torrents
[20:03] <Pusselgenerator> ais523: Oh... That makes it more difficult.. I do not know how to do it by the terminal, but try "man mount" and see if you get any smarter :/
[20:03] <Lunks> J_Humphrey: yeah, me too. :)
[20:03] <Gioacchino> KiwiJoker:  how to get real uid of ext3 ?
[20:03] <Slart> towlie: probably because 8.04 still is new.. but afaik the procedure is the same.. the command should all work (sudo update-manager.... etc)
[20:03] <J_Humphrey> laiya: that depends on what you want to do, your computer, what you like, etc
[20:03] <Lunks> isn't there something like deb-over-torrent?
[20:03] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino dont use UID's in fstab
[20:03] <insp12> Lunks is there a way to move the home folder?
[20:03] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino just /dev/<whatever>
[20:03] <Estilo> k m off c ya tomorrow morning
[20:03] <towlie> Slart, ok
[20:03] <Lunks> insp12: google it, i believe you can
[20:03] <myf> after i made it through apt-get update after like 10 tries, when i start to do dist-upgrade and upgrade, it says 0 new package. does anybody know why?
[20:04] <maco> excitatory: i wouldnt even bother changing the card.  discrete graphics are just plain annoying on linux.  but if theres an ati card...well, those are always cards, they dont make onboard graphics.  there should be some onboard graphics in the motherboard
[20:04] <insp12> cool thanks
[20:04] <TJP> HARDY IS OUT!!!!! w00t
[20:04] <insp12> yeaaaa
[20:04] <Gioacchino> KiwiJoker:  then I remove uuid and put  /dev/sda3 ??
[20:04] <insp12> haaardaay
[20:04] <TJP> just waiting for my torrent to finish
[20:04] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino if thats the name of your device, then yep
[20:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[20:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:04] <gord_slater> laiya: all versions of linux can be customised to be very fast, very stable, very "hardened", so speed is relative, do you find gutsy slow on your machine now?
[20:04] <mgedmin> Gioacchino: do you mean UUID?  run sudo blkid to see all of them
[20:04] <Doubletwist> maco: ati makes onboard cards
[20:04] <TJP> about 15 mins to go
[20:04] <Lunks> insp12: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[20:04] <Arelis> Has anybody actually read my question, or should i repeat it again?
[20:04] <Doubletwist> maco: my laptop has one
[20:04] <Slart> Arelis: repeat it.. it's a bit busy today
[20:04] <calc> Gioacchino: its easy to get the uid
[20:04] <J_Humphrey> laiya: The small distros, like DSL are fast, but dont have much on eye candy, but then there debian, which has pretty much every package you can imagine, but is a little slower because of it
[20:04] <Arelis> Slart: okay
[20:04] <excitatory> laiya: each distribution of linux has many similarities and most can do what the others can do.. it's more of a preference thing.  also, some distros focus more on certain things, such as servers, etc.  k/ubuntu focuses on the desktop experience, and will probably be your best choice if you have to ask this question.
[20:04] <insp12> I had the beta, and I have a cd, is there a way to update the beta from the cd?
[20:04] <Arelis> Anyone want to help me get my tablet to work? It's a Wacom Bamboo Fun. I installed the "wacom-tools" package and did "modprobe wacom" but i still don't have /dev/input/wacom (which indicates if the system detects it or not). When i wave my pen over it it does nothing.
[20:05] <insp12> without changing my settings etc?
[20:05] <KiwiJoker> Gioacchino you can find out your HD's "device name" by opening terminal and typing in "df" without the commers
[20:05] <Slart> Arelis: ah.. that one =).. I read it.. but I can't help you.. sorry.. never played with laptops
[20:05] <J_Humphrey> Arelis: have you tried documentation and google?
[20:05] <excitatory> man, this channel is poppin'
[20:05] <insp12> the beta is installed through wubi, but I guess it shouldnt be too hard?
[20:05] <gopp> hey any one know why ubuntu 8.0.4 won't seem my other monitor
[20:05] <ais523> Pusselgenerator: I figured it eventually, it's mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[20:05] <towlie> how long does it take to update typically to 8.04 and what happens if my network connection gets interrupted ? can i just resume later ?
[20:05] <User2005> Yea...
[20:05]  * gary4gar checks, if madness level have been brought down
[20:05] <maco> Doubletwist: not on desktops...?
[20:05] <laiya> gord_slater: yes i find gutsy running slower than xp ..
[20:05] <bullgard4> I'd like to report an error in Launchpad. What Ubuntu 'project' does a (faulty) (Ethernet) LAN connection belong to?
[20:05] <Jessica_lilly> is this for hardy now or just gutsy still
[20:05] <Arelis> J_Humphrey: there is an old guide for Gutsy that involves custom-compiling a lot of stuff, but the drivers should be included into Hardy now.
[20:05] <ais523> Pusselgenerator: however, man wasn't working for me, I figured it using mount --help
[20:05] <gopp> ?????
[20:05] <zachb> askand: http://www.screenage.de/blog/2008/04/07/eee-updated-to-hardy/ worked for him!
[20:05] <maco> Doubletwist: i thought only intel and nvidia did onboard
[20:05] <TJP> does anyone know what time (UCT) hardy was let loose?
[20:05] <Pusselgenerator> ais523: Ah, there you have it! Nice work ;)
[20:05] <Gioacchino> with blkid I obtain the same uuid of fstab....
[20:05] <Slart> towlie: usually you can just resume the update later
[20:05] <Lunks> excitatory: almost 2000 users, it has to be popping. :P
[20:06] <Arelis> J_Humphrey: And google just gives a lot of old guides
[20:06] <jericho> is the torrent the official file ??
[20:06] <gopp> hey any one know why ubuntu 8.0.4 won't seem my other monitor????
[20:06] <Pici> bullgard4: probably the kernel you're using
[20:06] <towlie>  slart how long does it take
[20:06] <Slart> jericho: yes
[20:06] <KiwiJoker> Gioaachino type df in terminal
[20:06] <Pusselgenerator> jericho: yep
[20:06] <no37> Jessica: all versions, I believe
[20:06] <Arelis> Slart: It's actually a tablet that you connect via USB. the system itself is a desktop system.
[20:06] <jericho> Slart: ok
[20:06] <Lunks> !repeat | gopp
[20:06] <ubotu> gopp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[20:06] <gord_slater> ok, give me a clue what you do that is slower, like email, web browser, office applications or gimp ? or everything lol?
[20:06] <evand> insp12: you can add the CD to your sources and update just like a regular install.  The use of Wubi wont matter with respect to that.
[20:06] <bullgard4> Pici: Ah! Thank you.
[20:06] <Slart> towlie: right now.. probably a looong time since everyone is updating.. normally.. say an hour, max
[20:06] <Doubletwist> maco: My laptop has an onboard ATI 200M
[20:06] <gord_slater> laiya:ok, give me a clue what you do that is slower, like email, web browser, office applications or gimp ? or everything lol?
[20:06] <gary4gar> bullgard4, Report it in Ubuntu project as a whole, if you are not sure. Rest Ubuntu bug squad will take care
[20:06] <maco> Doubletwist: but desktops dont have onboard ati, right?
[20:06] <Lunks> gonna reinstall mac =)
[20:06] <Gioacchino> then I use  /dev/sda3 instead of uuid
[20:06] <tawt> can anyone help me?  is there a good app that can download videos from YouTube?
[20:06] <Lunks> cu!
[20:06] <calc> use vol_id --uuid to find out the uuid for a partition for /etc/fstab
[20:07] <calc> Gioacchino: see ^
[20:07] <Alan> Does anybody know how to stop gnome-panel from doing its slide-in thing?
[20:07] <mut80r> anyone know why hardy locks up when enabling my bcm4311 ?
[20:07] <Gioacchino> VERY THANKS ALL!!!!!
[20:07] <J_Humphrey> tawt: theres a firefox extension for that
[20:07] <Doubletwist> maco: And some desktop motherboards have that chipest built on too
[20:07] <maco> tawt: the unplug extension for firefox
[20:07] <User2005> # I think this will copy the driver in the right place...
[20:07] <User2005> cp es1371 ~/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/audio
[20:07] <Slart> Arelis: ah.. it's one of those little drawing thingies.. well.. I don't have one of those either.. sorry =(
[20:07] <TJP> does anyone know what time (UCT) hardy was let loose?
[20:07] <tawt> thanks
[20:07] <Dani> hi again!, i just made a clean amd64 hardy heron install. I have a nvidia card (6 series) and a 22'' widescreen lcd (lg l225ws). Before installing restricted modules the max resolution detected was 800x600, installing the restricted modules got compiz working but max resolution decreased to 640x480. I tried forcing the pannig using nvidia-settings but it didn't work either. Can please give me a hand. It worked flawlessly in gutsy gibbon.
[20:07] <maco> Doubletwist: really? thats weird...
[20:07] <pjoul> tawt: ./youtube-dl
[20:07] <myf> Pici: do you know why there isn't any new upgrades when i run apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:07] <KiwiJoker> bad idea using UUID in place of the actual device name imo
[20:07] <Jessica_lilly> im currently still using gutsy because when i tryed hardy eariler on today my network kept droping out and freezing my system
[20:07] <CloseCall> hi
[20:07] <]grimm[> What's the most efficient way to upgrade multiple machines to Hardy (all the same architecture), I've got one machine started up now, but it seems to be a shame to waste bandwidth and grab those same packages again
[20:07] <CloseCall> when i try to do the upgrade to heron i get an error that update manager could not get release notes..
[20:07] <CloseCall> is the server being slammed ?
[20:07] <ConstyXIV> tawt: dunno about downloading, but "Movie Player" can search and play them once you install "Ubuntu restricted extras"
[20:07] <Pici> myf: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[20:07] <pjoul> tawt: google youtube-dl
[20:07] <maco> myf: you didnt change your sources.list?
[20:07] <CloseCall> to many ppl trying to upgrade perhaps
[20:07] <bigdog_> Okay, on my upgrade, I decided to quit downloading the packages and start over.  Now Update Manager doesn't say that 8.04 is available.
[20:07] <bigdog_> What could be wrong?
[20:07] <FloodBot2> CloseCall: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <calc> KiwiJoker: yea what with it letting you boot if your device naming changes
[20:07] <Slart> tawt: there's an extension for firefox.. hang on.. I'll get the name of it
[20:07] <laiya> everything in its own way ... just seems i need more processor or ram ... i currently have P4 3.4 1gb
[20:07] <myf> Pici: gutsy
[20:07] <calc> KiwiJoker: using UUID is a much better idea than using the /dev/sdX# naming
[20:08] <Flannel> ]grimm[: grab the alternate CD, or setup a package cache
[20:08] <myf> maco: how do i change sources.list
[20:08] <bullgard4> gary4gar: I will take your advise as a fall-back solution if Launchpad does not accept the current Hardy kernel as a 'project'.
[20:08] <Jessica_lilly> how can i stop my network dropping out or is it only me having the problem now
[20:08] <gregbrady> doubletwist, I have a laptop and desktop with ATI x200
[20:08] <Slart> tawt: it's called DownloadHelper.. I'm using v3.03... check the firefox site for it
[20:08] <maco> myf: as root with a text editor. it's at /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:08] <no37> Jessica: Same here. Update Manager just kept freezing. Am going to wait a bit. It's because the servers are getting hammered
[20:08] <calc> KiwiJoker: the UUID doesn't change unless you format the drive, but the name in /dev changes depending on what you put in your system or in usb, etc
[20:08] <Pici> myf: run update-manager -c
[20:08] <maco> myf: but the update manager can just do it all for you
[20:08] <stuneedhelp> wie isn der chan für deutsch support
[20:08] <TJP> does anyone know what time (UCT) hardy was let loose?
[20:08] <stuneedhelp> ubuntu.de oder wie..?
[20:08] <tawt> slart thanks
[20:08] <calc> KiwiJoker: you can even uuid map usb devices to always mount in the same spot using UUID
[20:08] <Slart> !de | stuneedhelp
[20:08] <ubotu> stuneedhelp: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:08] <reactor> Dani: I will give you one tip, I was facing a similar problem. It seems nvidia does not configure the right kernel required by the OS. I do not know the reason for this, but it seems to be the reason.
[20:08] <calc> KiwiJoker: which you can't do with plain /dev/sdX#
[20:09] <]grimm[> Flannel: I grabbed the alternate CD, but I can't seen to do a networkless upgrade with it, it fails and says that it "can't calculate the upgrade" or something to that extent.  Thus I use the CD, but allow it to grab Internet updates and it seems to download about 1/3 of the packages
[20:09] <Jessica_lilly> mine freezes when i connect using my onboard network card which is a big pain i have to use my external usb adapter
[20:09] <gary4gar> Dani, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:09] <Pici> TJP: about Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:17:20 -0700 (13:17 BST)
[20:09] <reactor> Dani: instead, try installing a software "envy". Google it, or I can send the installation file to you right away. Try installing nvidia drivers through the same. I bet it will work
[20:09] <N3WFI3> hardy is pretty cool
[20:09] <Dani> reactor, thanks... but I don't know what to do with the info
[20:09] <Slart> !envy
[20:09] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[20:09] <]grimm[> Flannel: Is there a way for me to set up a package cache after I've started the upgrade procedure on one of my four machines?
[20:09] <myf> maco: i just want to experience it a little bit, what do i have to change at /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:09] <Pici> Slart: envyng is in Hardy
[20:09] <CarlFK> how do I turn of trackerd permanately?
[20:09] <Beererde> hi. i got the alternate install cd, and tried the cdupgrade script- but it fails-- what can i do?
[20:09] <Slart> reactor: don't advice people to use envy,, unless you're available to fix their problems afterwards
[20:09] <N3WFI3> i don't see much new tho, all i noticed was the new visuals and firefox and a couple apps
[20:09] <Slart> oh.. it is
[20:09] <ibleed> reactor, envy is now in the hardy repos i believe
[20:10] <Dani> reactor, i'll begin the envy thing, thanks!
[20:10] <Jessica_lilly> dose anyone else use RTL8187B
[20:10] <Slart> sorry, reactor.. my bad
[20:10] <gary4gar> Beefeater, fails as like, any error message?
[20:10] <Slart> thanks, pixi
[20:10] <TJP> Pici: wow, thats specific, so about midday UTC then - thought it would be! else NZ etc get it on the 25th! (says me sat here in UK)
[20:10] <Slart> pici
[20:10] <maco> myf: you either upgrade or you dont.  there's no "a little bit" that isn't also "horribly broken"
[20:10] <reactor> Slart: I have used it myself, and it running absolutely fine. Thats why I am endorsing it
[20:10] <Flannel> ]grimm[: You could just use the packages in your local cache, yeah.  It'd be less automated than apt-proxy, but certainly doable (/var/cache/apt/archives)
[20:10] <gary4gar> Dani, you just need to do a  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:10] <tmxdt> us.archive.ubuntu.com ( 91.189.92.3 ) isn't responding to sudo apt-get upgrade.  Are the repos getting owned?
[20:10] <Dani> gary4gar, dpkg-reconfigure only brings the system back to the 800x600 thing, (no compiz)
[20:10] <maco> gary4gar: no
[20:10] <maco> Dani: that command is gone
[20:10] <J_Humphrey> tmxdt: i'd say yes
[20:10] <bigdog_> Please, someone help. I want Heron! :(
[20:10] <myf> maco: i want to experience upgrading with apt, that's what i meant
[20:10] <Beererde> hi. i got the alternate install cd, and tried the cdupgrade script- but it fails-- what can i do?
[20:10] <]grimm[> Flannel: how do I get another machine to use those packages?  Or do I have to move them somewhere and then set it up as a cache?
[20:10] <Slart> reactor: nice.. I'll have to give it a try then. Thanks
[20:11] <Dani> garygar, a little imprevement but... i'm kinda searching the 1680x1050 thing
[20:11] <fbc> How can I browse a limewire share on my local lan from ubuntu??
[20:11] <Dani> garygar, thanks anyway
[20:11] <insp12> beererde what is the cd upgrade script?
[20:11] <maco> myf: last time i did that, it broke. the gui checks for conflicts that for some reason they didnt just put in the packages so apt could handle it
[20:11] <rmbell> i've been using the RC version of Heron, and an update released within the last day or two has broken my sound
[20:11] <Slart> !p2p | fbc
[20:11] <ubotu> fbc: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information
[20:11] <gary4gar> Dani, if you correctly follow the Options & select right driver & screen relo, you are done
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[20:11] <Beererde> insp12: like the name says..
[20:11] <tmxdt> J_Humphrey: Ah I think requests are fashioned in a queue.  I'm downloading stuff now.  Thanks
[20:11] <reactor> Slart: Dani" and good thing about Envy is that it makes the whole painful installation of nvidia thing, a piece of cake
[20:11] <TJP> food time - big up ubuntu - and if anyone is on here not using a torrent to download - give the ubuntu servers a rest!
[20:11] <TJP> bubi!
[20:11] <Slart> fbc: I don't know if any of those links help you.. but it's worth a try
[20:11] <bond`> the update manager hangs when i try to upgrade to 8.04
[20:11] <Cpudan80> So ehh
[20:11] <Jessica_lilly> im having problems with my onboard wireless card RTL8187B
[20:11] <reactor> At least in my case, it worked pretty fine
[20:11] <Cpudan80> I am trying to upgrade to HH
[20:11] <myf> maco: so your suggestion is go for update-manager ey
[20:12] <FlyasS> How can i join the server i usely use?
[20:12] <Cpudan80> But when I hit the upgrade button in update manager - it just kinda hangs
[20:12] <Slart> reactor: nvidia has always been easy for me.. never had a problem with their installer
[20:12] <node357> the torrents are the best way to go.. took 20 minutes, now I'm a "seed"
[20:12] <maco> myf: yeah. safer.
[20:12] <gord_slater> laiya: OK thats good specs for a machine, especially for linux, so the perception of "slow" might be that u have either a lot of stuff goin on/open, or maybe a faster/leaner desktop might please you more. I'm thinking soemthing like Fluxbox, like I use, but it takes a lot of setting up unfortunately, for a noobie
[20:12] <insp12> where did you find it though?
[20:12] <Arelis> Slart: that's okay.
[20:12] <VeN0mizer> Can anyone tell me the build date for the hardy final CD? Is it April 23,2008?
[20:12] <]grimm[> Flannel:  Or I guess I could just dump pacakges from one archives directory into the archives directory of the next machine in line...
[20:12] <Dani> thanks reactor, i'll give it a try...
[20:12] <fbc> Slart, yeah I just want the browser for the protocol used to share on the local lan
[20:12] <insp12> I am looking to try something like that
[20:12] <myf> maco: thanks
[20:12] <Beererde> node357: but how to upgrade using the iso?
[20:12] <gary4gar> !wireless | Jessica_lilly
[20:12] <ubotu> Jessica_lilly: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:12] <reactor> Slart: I envy you, I have a real real hard time.
[20:12] <bond`> Cpudan80: my update manager hangs too
[20:12] <node357> Beererde, don't know, sorry :(
[20:12] <Jessica_lilly> ive allready looked on the internet
[20:12] <Jessica_lilly> no look
[20:12] <reactor> Slar: I mean I HAD a hard time
[20:12] <Jessica_lilly> *luck
[20:12] <Dani> garygar, have you tried that on harde heron?
[20:12] <jburd> Can the update manager be designed such that it uses P2P to download updates?
[20:12] <Beererde> node357: so it's completely useless :/
[20:12] <bigdog_> Jessica_lilly: I can't private message you.
[20:12] <Cpudan80> bond`: I think it is actually just very slow downloading or something - it just now proceeded
[20:12] <Slart> fbc: can't really help you with that.. never played around with limewire
[20:13] <lch_> VeN0mizer: that's the date my download had too
[20:13] <laiya> gord_slater: i have automatix
[20:13] <jburd> So I can pull updates from my friend's notebook?
[20:13] <node357> Beererde, not if you're doing a fresh installation
[20:13] <gary4gar> Dani, i am on hardy since Alpha 2 :)
[20:13] <gord_slater> laiya: i have to admit that Gutsy seems a bit "wooly for mee too", BUT it doesnt slow down much more when heavily loaded
[20:13] <Beererde> node357: yeah..
[20:13] <Pici> !automatix | laiya
[20:13] <ubotu> laiya: Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[20:13] <Flannel> ]grimm[: yeah, that's what you'll end up needing to do.  Just make sure you get the pkgcache files as well as the archives of the package.
[20:13] <talntid> hardy har har...
[20:13] <bond`> Cpudan80: tries to connect to 91.189.92.3 port 80
[20:13] <]grimm[> Flannel: Will they be in the same directory?
[20:13] <Dani> garygar i'm asking becayse dpkg-reconfiguring xserver-xorg has changed, it wouldn't ask for res... or driver
[20:13] <laiya> gord_slater: someone helped me with that and its quite easy for installing stuff
[20:13] <Slart> is automatix in hardy too? =)
[20:13] <Jessica_lilly> if you are trying to upgrade and you have gutsy installed just go to terminal or shell and type apt-get upgrade-manager or go to the mirrors
[20:13] <LockeVendetta> hi does anyone knows if it's possible to install ubuntu on a ps3, but in an external HDD, not the PS3 HDD internal?
[20:13] <Cpudan80> bond`: Yeah... I wish we could change that
[20:13] <gary4gar> jburd, No, its only supports FTP & HTTP
[20:13] <Flannel> ]grimm[: yeah, just copy one to the other
[20:13] <mooboo1> i've seeded 10 gb of 8.04 torrent? how much have you seeded?
[20:13] <gord_slater> laiya: there ya go, automatix is OK for a noob but can lead to some problems later, ^^^^see the autobot answer justa bove
[20:14] <emorris> what can I use to download torrents with in gutsy?
[20:14] <]grimm[> Flannel: gotcha, thanks
[20:14] <Pici> gord_slater: NO! Automatix is NOT okay
[20:14] <node357> mooboo1, I've only seeded about 200 MB but I"m leaving for a few hours so letting it run
[20:14] <bigdog_> Jessica_lilly: The problem is htat I quit a little way though downloading the packages and so the Update Manager doesn't say that I need to upgrade.
[20:14] <jburd> gary4gar: I'm not talking about what it supports.  I'm talking about what it could.
[20:14] <Slart> emorris: there's transmission, deluge, azureus and probably some more
[20:14] <J_Humphrey> emorris: you can get azuerus
[20:14] <gord_slater> laiya: haha there ya go, it seems its more hated nowadays, i dont know i never used it lol
[20:14] <Doubletwist> mooboo1: only seeded 4GB, but I only started 2 hours ago...
[20:14] <Slart> !torrent
[20:14] <gary4gar> Dani, then the other way more easy, i need your xorg.conf file
[20:14] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[20:14] <mooboo1> Doubletwist, not bad :)
[20:14] <Jessica_lilly> check /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:14] <Jessica_lilly> think its spelt write
[20:15] <emorris> is there any (torrent clients) already installed i ubuntu
[20:15] <gary4gar> jburd, Bad timing, in such rush, you can hardly talk
[20:15] <Jessica_lilly> if you go to /etc/apt/ in file manager fine the sources.list file
[20:15] <emorris> in**
[20:15] <reactor> Dani: did u try it?
[20:15] <Pici> emorris: Transmission is instaled by default.
[20:15] <jburd> gary4gar: Yeah, I guess.
[20:15] <emorris> ok thanks pici
[20:15] <Arelis> With this new version of Ubuntu, (which is an LTS), will new programs get into the repositories often?
[20:15] <VeN0mizer> lch_: check your PM ;)
[20:15] <Pici> Arelis: No
[20:15] <Slart> Arelis: probably noy
[20:15] <gord_slater> laiya: i recommend u learn to use aither apt-get (very easy, often u can cut/paste to/from command line boxes in website helps, or use synaptic package manager, the GUI version
[20:15] <MrObvious> So.
[20:16] <Arelis> Pici: okay
[20:16] <gary4gar> Arelis, What *new programs*?
[20:16] <ThomasY> 2/win c
[20:16] <Dani> reactor, i'm on it... first i'm trying de dpkg-reconfigure thing (just a way to learn) if i have a very bad time (that i'm having now) i'll do the envy thing
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[20:16] <Slart> Arelis: ubuntu isn't like debian and the others..  it doesn't evolve like that
[20:16] <Arelis> Slart: okay
[20:16] <Dani> garygar, how can i get my xorg.conf for you?
[20:16] <devin_> anyone having a problem apt-get update?
[20:16] <bullgard4> Pici: Launchpad does not know a 'project' '2.6.24-16'. If i search for 'kernel', it returns 'autokernel', '    AutoKernel (Product)
[20:16] <mrkeishii> So how is 8.04LTS????????
[20:16] <sotap> Dani: have you tried running sudo displayconfig-gtk?
[20:16] <lopin> Is there something wrong with the servers?  I can't update?
[20:16] <rmbell> whenever i play any sound on 8.04, it just continues to loop the sound over and over, and usually freezes, any help?
[20:16] <Slart> lopin: they are probably busy
[20:16] <Wrath> yea, they are getting hammered
[20:16] <lopin> So, I'm not the only one with problems?
[20:16] <dystopianray> lopin: they are being hammered, too many people are trying to use them
[20:16] <VeN0mizer> yeah it's called a DoS attack, and it's caused by EVERYONE downloading the new ubuntu
[20:17] <bigdog_> lopin: I'm having the same problem
[20:17] <mut80r> lopin: they're under heavy load
[20:17] <ibleed> Dani, you best backup xorg.conf before you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg since you dont know what your doing
[20:17] <Wrath> i havent been able to update most of the day
[20:17] <gary4gar> Dani, first it gary*4*gar, and yes
[20:17] <gopp> hi dual monitor setup in ubuntu 8.0.4 is how ???
[20:17] <Jessica_lilly> irc is a bit busy tonight
[20:17] <lopin> Damn...
[20:17] <devin_> getting : [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.3)] 52% and it stops on that
[20:17] <Pici> bullgard4: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[20:17] <no37> lopin: same here
[20:17] <lopin> Can we voulenteer mirrors?
[20:17] <Wrath> devin_: yup, same thing here
[20:17] <gord_slater> laiya: take hard look at what u actually use in the automatix list, i suspect you have "lots of stuff going on" due to automatix like i mentioned above.
[20:17] <laiya> gord_slater: so how do i use apt-get ?
[20:17] <Doubletwist> mooboo1: I'll catch up :) Outgoing rates:    9730.1 kbits/sec
[20:17] <lopin> *hates that word*
[20:17] <gary4gar> devin_, use torrents, servers are overloaded
[20:17] <NeT_DeMoN> excuse me everyone but i have a wireless laptop with an Atheros network driver and it comes up on my drivers list but theres no wireless option on my connections thing :S
[20:17] <linkmaster03> Why do my web browsers always close when I load RuneScape? It does this with Firefox and Epiphany
[20:17] <Dani> ibleed, don't worry i know the backup thing :P but thanks
[20:17] <lopin> NeT_DeMoN: I have a link for you
[20:17] <mooboo1> Doubletwist, wow, god damn.... you got FAST internet
[20:18] <lopin> NeT_DeMoN: Should fix it right up
[20:18] <NeT_DeMoN> lopin: ok
[20:18] <Pici> Doubletwist: mooboo1: Can you please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:18] <mooboo1> Doubletwist, you must have 100 mbit upload?
[20:18] <Doubletwist> mooboo1: It's a hosted server. Not my home connection :)
[20:18] <laiya> gord_slater: hardly .. i dont need any more of the software in  there
[20:18] <stuneedhelp> hatte jemand zufällig das problem... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64267/ und es gelöst....? please i need help
[20:18] <Doubletwist> mooboo1: it's a 10mbit connection
[20:18] <gary4gar> !wifi | NeT_DeMoN
[20:18] <ubotu> NeT_DeMoN: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:18] <ANTDx1> hmm update started, but it's taking a year to download the files
[20:18] <gord_slater> well, best way is not to describe here, but if for example you google for the phrase "sudo apt-get install" you will find many many examples of how it is used
[20:18] <mrkeishii> man
[20:18] <J_Humphrey> !de | stuneedhelp
[20:18] <ubotu> stuneedhelp: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:18] <lopin> gary4gar: He's got an atheros...  Those aren't in wifidoc
[20:18] <VeN0mizer> Will my beta version update to final through "Update manager" when it all comes back up?
[20:18] <excitatory> i was reading about this Zen kernel on the forums and ubuntu wiki..it sounds really good, especially since I'm the experimental type.. however, I was just wondering if this is worth it or even a good idea compared to the newly released hardy kernel?
[20:18] <SeanO> Anyone have a pointer for installing 8.04 under Parallels Workstation 2.2? I think I need a boot flag to get past a crash during the kernel load.  Is this a good channel to ask in?
[20:18] <arooni> i'm looking for a tool that functions like http://www.activewords.com within firefox... i.e. it can turn a few characters of text into several long paragraphs (of common text i usually type to clients that i send within gmail).  is there anything for ubuntu gutsy or firefox that meets the bill?
[20:18] <shameless> ok, update manager's locking up whenever i try to get HH, any suggestions?
[20:18] <mrkeishii> I'm still downloading Hardy Since 10:00am this morning
[20:19] <lch_> VeN0mizer: yes it will
[20:19] <lopin> shameless: We're all in the same boat
[20:19] <Dani> sotap... i haven't and it seems promising
[20:19] <lopin> shameless: Servers are getting hammered!
[20:19] <Stop_It> Good evening all
[20:19] <shameless> lopin: damn
[20:19] <gary4gar> lopin, i didn't have time to read that :p, heavy flood here
[20:19] <VeN0mizer> lch_: thanks ;) And did you get my PM?
[20:19]  * Mimi asks: is it possible to install Taskel in Hardy or not? It's not on the repos
[20:19] <shameless> lopin: should have used torrents, less strain on the main servers
[20:19] <stuneedhelp> ja im deutschsprachigem bekomme ich keine antwort ;-(
[20:19] <lopin> gary4gar: Yes, but they're all about the servers getting thrashed
[20:19] <gord_slater> laiya:its sorts everthing out for you, and adds extras if they are absolutely needed you see, these are called "dependencies", this is one way we avoid the "DLL-hell" that can plague windows, you may have had that sort of thing before ;)
[20:19] <lch_> VeN0mizer: yes and i wrote you back an answer there
[20:20] <VeN0mizer> lch_: darn pidgin...I didn't get it :(
[20:20] <MemoryDump> everybody should be using the torrent link provided in the topic of this channel to obtain 8.04
[20:20] <lopin> NeT_DeMoN: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[20:20] <UltraNav> how do I update from 7.10 to 8.04 via CD ? I only get to synaptic but no further
[20:20] <gary4gar> SeanO, Contact professional support
[20:20] <node357> the only dll hell I've had on Windows is between GIMP and GAIM :P
[20:20] <VeN0mizer> lch_: so was it after or before? lol
[20:20] <Vecnah> hi , is there a problem with archive.ubuntu.com I can't use EnvyNG now
[20:20] <gord_slater> haha me too node
[20:20] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO
[20:20] <node357> so I'm not alone hehe
[20:20] <Seveas> Vecnah, hardy was released, everybody is downloading :)
[20:20] <devin_> damn servers probably have smoke rolling off them
[20:20] <lch_> VeN0mizer: it was the date i saw when i started downloading the torrent 2 hours ago
[20:20] <gary4gar> UltraNav, You should have Alternate install CD
[20:20] <Beererde> nice error message, i'm impressed: http://pastebin.com/me18e45a
[20:20] <jimcooncat> We must be amateur support
[20:20] <mon^rch> lol repos jammed :P
[20:20] <laiya> gord_slater: yeah probably ... so how do i update dependencies .. i see ubuntu updating new stuff almost daily ..
[20:21] <VeN0mizer> lch_:  awesome man thanks ;) Sorry for the incessant nagging
[20:21] <shameless> do we know if tablet support is getting integrated in HH?
[20:21] <SeanO> gary4gar, k thx
[20:21] <LordCrimson> one more. I upgraded to ubuntu 8.04. Hal daemon does not start, tells, that it cannot init policykit context
[20:21] <shameless> like, tablet pc, not wacom tablets
[20:21] <gord_slater> laiya: you dont its all taken care of :) thats what the update manage does for you, at regular intervals
[20:21] <devin_> i was wondering why apt-get kept locking up when i was trying to install java =(
[20:21] <gary4gar> LordCrimson, English Only Please
[20:21] <laiya> gord_slater: oh ok
[20:21] <Jessica_lilly> i need help with my RTL8187B
[20:22] <laiya> gord_slater: lots to learn i guess
[20:22] <gord_slater> but to do manually, itrs something like (search google for yourself to learn, its not hard at all)  sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:22] <chronos> I'm trying to find the netmini ISO of hardy so I can install it on my PPC mac. Where's it at?
[20:22] <mrkeishii> so the more people downloading it the slower the download is????
[20:22] <Stop_It> Well yes
[20:22] <mrkeishii> oh
[20:22] <gord_slater> laiya: those tho phrases basically do what the update manager does daily or so
[20:22] <insane_alien> pretty much
[20:22] <gary4gar> Jessica_lilly, http://danmarner.blogspot.com/2008/01/rtl8187b-linux-native-driver-works-on.html
[20:22] <LordCrimson> gary4gar: HAL daemon cannot start after update. It cannot init policyKit context for some reason... Any ideas?
[20:22] <gord_slater> laiya:two #
[20:23] <DrX> does Linux have an equivalent to Windows ipconfig -all that will show you the DHCP server IP, the DNS server(s) IPs), and the default gateway IP?
[20:23]  * Mimi asks: is it possible to install Taskel in Hardy or not? It's not on the repos
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[20:23] <bicz> mrkeishii: try with torrent
[20:23] <gary4gar> LordCrimson, Nopes
[20:23] <khaije> anyone else having difficulties w/ hardy w/ a 8600GT ?
[20:23] <chronos> DrX: ifconfig
[20:23] <mrkeishii> I'm at 85%
[20:23] <mrkeishii> right now on Http
[20:23] <Cpudan80> I found a good mirror :-)
[20:23] <NeT_DeMoN> i still cant find how to make the wireless choice come up in the networks connetions tab
[20:23] <N3WFI3> hello
[20:23] <towlie> if i update from gutsy, would i download the updates from the ubuntu site or are the updates stored on a different/mirror site ?
[20:23] <Cpudan80> 2.5 MB/s :-)
[20:23] <Pici> Mimi: tasksel should be in a base install, no need to instal it
[20:23] <daemon3> Using update manager is virtually impossible right now.
[20:23] <mattl> has anyone seen this? when i click 'upgrade' in update-manager, it just hangs.
[20:23] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: right click?
[20:23] <N3WFI3> how do i return the text rendering to GUTSY style?
[20:23] <the_corona> hi guys, can anyone help me install the ati driver (im new to linux)?
[20:24] <N3WFI3> its better
[20:24] <daemon3> Maybe we should have named the distro "Hard to get Heron"
[20:24] <Jessica_lilly> thanks for the link
[20:24] <Stop_It> I'm 63% complete (64 bit version)from a Swedish mirror, it raced off at 480KB/S then.....it fell, down to 120KB?s now, ah well, can't wait to see it anyway.
[20:24] <Cpudan80> towlie: You download from the main thing - then run the upgrade tool on the cd
[20:24] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: what do you mean, right click on what?
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[20:24] <jfrench_> I seem to be getting a bug in evolution in hardy. Bug has be submitted.
[20:24] <mattl> daemon3: ho come?
[20:24] <void^> DrX: ifconfig -a && route && cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:24] <gary4gar> Cpudan80, which mirror, i need it too :D
[20:24] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: what do you need help with?
[20:24] <tigran> Hi
[20:24] <emorris> mattl: that happened to me, killed it and retried, worked fine
[20:24] <Dani> sotap, i did displayconfig-gtk, there i can change the res (And even try it... it works!!) but when i click keep settings, i return to my ugly 800x600 res
[20:24] <towlie> Cpudan80, i dont have a cd and am not downloading one
[20:24] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: on the networkmanager icon in the system tray
[20:24] <mattl> emorris: killed it a few times.
[20:24] <Cpudan80> gary4gar: It has to do with the fact that I routed my traffic over a privileged network :-/
[20:24] <mrkeishii> If I'm at 85% on Http do i stick with that or should i download the torrent instead???
[20:24] <towlie> Cpudan80, im going thru update manager
[20:24] <daemon3> mattl Did I talk to you earlier today?
[20:24] <the_corona> well i went to hardware, and selected the properitary driver, and then rebootet, and the pc crashed
[20:24] <devin_> can you all ping 91.189.88.46 ?
[20:24] <gord_slater> laiya:there really isnt much to learn at all, just slow, easy streps, one thing at a time, that add's to your knowledge. I'd start with apt-get you see, so u can at least install something small and useful "by hand" but still be "automated" - not this isnt what Automatix does!
[20:24] <the_corona> i had to go to recovery and do that x-server thing :-(
[20:24] <emorris> mattl: i might have rebooted, not sure
[20:24] <mattl> daemon3: i don't think so. not in here, certainly.
[20:24] <tigran> I've just finished installing 8.04 desktop, and in restricted drivers nvidia-new just says not enabled all the time. How can I fix this? Thanks.
[20:24] <Stop_It> One question (And it will possibly be no), I have a 360, will I still be able to use ICS to connect both at the same time, and will media sharing work? if both answers are yes I may never use Windows outside of gaming!
[20:24] <the_corona> i want to get the nice desktop effects :-)
[20:24] <gary4gar> Cpudan80, oh i see
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[20:25] <xda> does xorg run as suid?
[20:25] <daemon3> mattl:  You're in my class :)
[20:25] <Mimi> Question.... "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/nvidia-glx-new_169.12+2.6.24.12-16.34_i386.deb" "  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.92.2), connection timed out"  WAI?!?!?! :P
[20:25] <lch_> lol ask all 1700pl to ping his IP..
[20:25] <DRebellion> xda, i doubt it
[20:25] <mattl> daemon3: your class where?
[20:25] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: let me find a link for you... are you using 8.04 or an ealier edition?
[20:25] <Cpudan80> gary4gar: if you were at my univ I could help you out... but... :-/
[20:25] <grouse704> Hello
[20:25] <daemon3> mattl Never mind them.
[20:25] <daemon3> ...then
[20:25] <jiapian> hi
[20:25] <Pici> Mimi: The mirrors are a bit overloaded, be patient
[20:25] <the_corona> uhmm, the one that was just released :-)
[20:25] <Kcaj> Fun tip: Tab works the same as ENTER when logging in to Ubuntu/Gnome :P lol
[20:25] <guillaume_> Does anyone have the md5sum of the iso from the torrent ?!?!?
[20:25] <gary4gar> Mimi, try another mirror or just wait
[20:25] <laiya> gord_slater: how do i see the list of applications on apt get?
[20:25] <void^> Mimi: servers are overloaded. don't bother upgrading/installing right after a new release comes out.
[20:25] <the_corona> yeah, 8.04 i think
[20:25] <Stop_It> Reply from 91.189.88.46: bytes=32 time=256ms TTL=55 <---Had one dropped ping out of 4 though.
[20:25] <chronos> Does the new Hardy even support PPC and have ppc packages?
[20:25] <Stop_It> packet..
[20:25] <Pici> chronos: no
[20:26] <mattl> daemon3: no, i'm quite far from portland. i'm nearer MIT.
[20:26] <Mimi> void^ understood, but I need these drivers to work.. oh well :)
[20:26] <Flannel> chronos: Not officially, they're community supported
[20:26] <crackbaby> does the do-release-upgrade tool (in server mode) support conversion of Desktop to Server install?
[20:26] <MemoryDump> are the upgrade files on the ISO? I extracted the ISO and I don't see a upgrade folder...
[20:26] <tigran> I've just finished installing 8.04 desktop, and in restricted drivers nvidia-new just says not enabled all the time. How can I fix this? Thanks.
[20:26] <devin_> glad i upgraded to hardy a week ago
[20:26] <mrkeishii> whats the torrent site of 8.04LTS
[20:26] <sotap> Dani: hmm, not sure why that is.  perhaps you can try rebooting
[20:26] <Seveas> chronos, yes, on ports.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:26] <LockeVendetta> hi does anyone knows if it's possible to install ubuntu on a ps3, but in an external HDD, not the PS3 HDD internal?
[20:26] <Mimi> gary4gar:  how can I select anther mirror?
[20:26] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: i did that, what does that do?
[20:26] <grouse704> so I downloaded the heron off the ubuntu site, but when I try to run the setup it comes up with an i/o error. Is this a known bug?
[20:26] <gord_slater> laiya:haha, good question, for that its easier to use Synaptic, the GUI package manager - synAPTic, you see, its uses the same stuff behind the scenes :)
[20:26] <DBautell> MemoryDump, I think you need the alternate ISO
[20:26] <Pici> PLEASE TAKE NON SUPPORT CONVERATION TO #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC - Thanks, The Management
[20:26] <crackbaby> i.e., can I seamlessly switch 6.10Desktop to 8.04 server w/o re-install
[20:26] <Flannel> crackbaby: You'd just remove the GUI stuff after the upgrade, or before.
[20:26] <J_Humphrey> LockeVendetta: have you tried google?
[20:26] <mrkeishii> whats the torrent site of 8.04LTS
[20:26] <emorris> what port(s)  do i need to open for bittorrent?
[20:26] <kittyn-> i downloaded the i386 iso from torrents, and Im already running gutsy, is there a way to upgrade using this iso image? like the same way a dist-upgrade would?
[20:26] <Dani> sotap, and runnig that ap doesn't seem to change my xorg.conf
[20:26] <Slart> mrkeishii: check the topic
[20:26] <MemoryDump> DBautell: DOH!! crappy :(
[20:26] <gary4gar> Mimi, System>admin > Software sources
[20:26] <the_corona> thnx J_Humphrey, reading
[20:26] <mut80r> does anyone know if an MSI 6877 Wireless is supported on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS ? I am replacing a BCM4311 with it because I give up with broadcom and fwcutter
[20:26] <Seveas> kittyn-, no
[20:27] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO (I think you need the 'alternate' ISO)
[20:27] <mbarak> hi i'm having a problem with bind/dhcp and ddns, can anyone here help me?
[20:27] <gord_slater> laiya: it should be up on your menu, admin? maybe (sorry I'm on a sad windows box right now)
[20:27] <Dani> gary4gar, how can i get you have a look at my xorg.conf?
[20:27] <DRebellion> Is the page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading suggesting that apt-get dist-upgrade is now safe, stable and bug-free?
[20:27] <Seveas> DBautell, yes, the alternat can do it :)
[20:27] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: you are using ubuntu hardy right?
[20:27] <gary4gar> Dani, post it in pastebin
[20:27] <kittyn-> seveas: ok thanks =(
[20:27] <Slart> !pastebin | Dani
[20:27] <ubotu> Dani: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:27] <jfrench_> kittyn- you could burn the disk then put it in your gutsy install it will upgrade from that
[20:27] <Seveas> DRebellion, better use the update manager
[20:27] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: yes
[20:27] <N3WFI3> is it firefox text rendering that changed or ubuntu
[20:27] <mbarak> hi i'm having a problem with bind/dhcp and ddns, can anyone here help me?
[20:27] <jimcooncat> mbarak, ask it or try #ubuntu-server
[20:27] <Seveas> DRebellion, (though apt-get never failed me :))
[20:27] <N3WFI3> I WANT THE OLD STYLE BACK
[20:27] <grouse704> installer doesn't seem to work
[20:27] <mbarak> thank you
[20:27] <emorris> what port(s)  do i need to open in the firewall for bittorrent?
[20:27] <Slart> N3WFI3: it's firefox 3.. might be some font thing too
[20:27] <bts3685> mbarak: i was having some dns issues with hardy too.
[20:27] <laiya> gord_slater:  lemme see if i can figure it out
[20:27] <kittyn-> jfrench_: thanks!
[20:27] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: i'm not 100% sure since i'm using kubuntu
[20:27] <N3WFI3> oh
[20:28] <Seveas> N3WFI3, leave the caps on the doorstep please
[20:28] <DRebellion> Seveas, excellent, saves me having to download the cd :)
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[20:28] <bts3685> mbarak: mind if i mvt msg?
[20:28] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: i found the "edit wireless connections"
[20:28] <N3WFI3> i dont like firefox3 text rendering :(
[20:28] <the_corona> J_Humphrey:  i did that, but after reboot it just......stays black and crashed....even tried the one from ati.com :-(
[20:28] <Slart> emorris: configurable in the client.. I think default is 6801 or something like that
[20:28] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije1: yes
[20:28] <towlie> has anyone here installed hardy on a laptop ?
[20:28] <bts3685> s/mvt/pvt
[20:28] <N3WFI3> anyone know how to get back the old style
[20:28] <mut80r> towlie: yes
[20:28] <dystopianray> towlie: i have
[20:28] <Seveas> !anyone | towlie
[20:28] <ubotu> towlie: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:28] <sotap> Dani: that sounds like a bug
[20:28] <Slart> towlie: I tried the live cd on one
[20:28] <faemir> Is it possible to upgrade to 8.04 using the cd? I'm having problems with the update manager
[20:28] <grouse704> @towlie: no, tried but failed
[20:28] <mbarak> o, the dns works just fine, its integrating the dynamic update that i'm having trouble with
[20:28] <salkot> N3WFI3, try #firefox
[20:28] <bts3685> khaije1:
[20:28] <gary4gar> towlie, many of us, shoot your question
[20:28] <towlie> ok have the problems with sleeping in gutsy been fixed in hardy ?
[20:28] <DBautell> faemir, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO
[20:28] <towlie> err
[20:28] <dystopianray> towlie: i had a minor sleep related issue that was fixed
[20:28] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: heres another link that shold work:
[20:28] <DRebellion> towlie, depends on your hardware.
[20:28] <J_Humphrey> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[20:29] <vaughn> towlie, sleeping seems to work for me now in Hardy
[20:29] <towlie> DRebellion, a macbook pro
[20:29] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[20:29] <Slart> towlie: have no idea.. I played with it constantly.. didn't give it time to sleep =)
[20:29] <dystopianray> towlie: my laptop would suspend again after it woke up from the initial suspend, that no longer happens
[20:29] <gfxstyler> hello
[20:29] <mheath> towlie: There are many different problems effecting lseeping; many are hardware related. What was your issue?
[20:29] <gary4gar> towlie, can't you sleep?, go to doctor then :p
[20:29] <gfxstyler> is there a way to "blacklist" kernel modules on boot?
[20:29] <faemir> DBautell, darn it, that isn't possible with the livecd is it? :(
[20:29] <N3WFI3> ok thanks
[20:29] <gfxstyler> because the hardy livecd wont let me boot :/
[20:29] <Jomatam> Hi  how to change screen resolution to 1280 1024
[20:29] <faemir> And woah, talk about a lot of torrent seeders :D
[20:29] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:29] <mheath> gary4gar: not helpful, given how busy this channel is. Might be better to wait a bit for the jokes :-)
[20:29] <Beererde> DBautell: cdromupgrade does NOT work
[20:30] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: you're funny :) i can't access that one cause it's a livecd and hangs at boot
[20:30] <faemir> Jomatam, system > preferences > screen resolution
[20:30] <DBautell> faemir, I just read up on it myself, and they say you need the alternate... Waiting for my torrent to finish
[20:30] <Beererde> DBautell: http://pastebin.com/me18e45a
[20:30] <the_corona> puhh....kinda complicated...ill try though, thnx J_Humphrey
[20:30] <savetheWorld> DrX: look in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth1.leases or /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases   depending on which interface you want to know
[20:30] <tigran> Whats the nvidia driver package name for 8.04?
[20:30] <DBautell> thanks, Beererde
[20:30] <Dani> gary4gar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64269/ that's my xorg.conf
[20:30] <faemir> DBautell, ok, I just finished my livecd torrent, was downloading at ~300kbps so hopefully this will as well ;)
[20:30] <^^malajenho^> wenas
[20:30] <mheath> tigran: Its easiest to just use the restricted drivers manager.
[20:30] <Jomatam> Resolution    there is no 1280 1024, just 1280 800
[20:30] <gaurav__> how do i upgrade to 8.04 from the beta? my gdm login prompt still does not come up which was a bug i had since upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 beta.
[20:30] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: i want to install ubuntu but it always hangs at boot "Loading Hardware Drivers" and the last entry is "b43legacy-phy0 found"
[20:30] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: it looks complicated, but if you just copy and paste all the commands, its not that bad, I did it for the previous release, without knowing anything about linux
[20:30] <Beererde> DBautell: but now we need another solution
[20:30] <mheath> tigran: Go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[20:30] <gord_slater> laiya: i'm a bit linux-limited right now (win-only here) due to work, everything gotta come from memory, I'm just in here to lend a hand since it's so busy today. as an example try a synaptic search for "chess" and you should find a couple of games that you could install, i think
[20:31] <bcnaat> mheath: where are the restricted drivers in hardy?
[20:31] <gangsterlicious> stop downloadin the isos, you are slowing the internet
[20:31] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: i think there might be a way to specify modules to blacklist as a kernel argument, but not i'm not sure exactly
[20:31] <towlie> does anyone here have a macbook pro with hardy heron  ?
[20:31] <mheath> bcnaat: Go to system->adminstration->Hardware Drivers
[20:31] <gaurav__> sorry, i meant to add, how do i upgrade from the terminal, seeing as i can't login through gdm
[20:31] <ois> In ubuntu 7.10 I got the Keyboard Shortcuts open. How do I unbind a shortcut key without assigning a new key (like the Delete key which is getting annoying ^_^;; )
[20:31] <tigran> mheath: Yea, well, the restricted driver says thats its enabled (nvidia_new) but under status it says not in use
[20:31] <^^malajenho^> acabo de instalar hardy heron y quiero hacer funcionar mi adaptador wireless Broadcom, cuando utilizo bcm43xx-fwcutter para pasarle el firmware mediante " bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o" me dice q no puede abrir el archivo wl_apsta.o
[20:31] <^^malajenho^> a k se puede deber?
[20:31] <DBautell> Beererde, for real, I want FF3
[20:31] <mut80r> gaurav__: sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:31] <KyleK> gaurav__: if you're already on 8.04 cant you just apt-get upgrade?
[20:31] <gary4gar> Dani, checking
[20:31] <tigran> mheath: I restarted and its the same thing
[20:31] <khaije1> !es
[20:31] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:31] <bcnaat> mheath: went there, shows no drivers or hardware listings
[20:31] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: this problem does only appear with a 2.6.24 kernel, 2.6.22 worked fine
[20:31] <krappe> !fr
[20:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:32] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: what is the actual problem?
[20:32] <mheath> bcnaat: what drivers are you trying to install? For what hardware?
[20:32] <J_Humphrey> laiya, if you want an easier way to download more popular programs, go to the applications menu, and go to add/remove programs, and search to your hearts content
[20:32] <gord_slater> laiya: synaptic will sort out all the dependencies for you, and install whatever you tick. if you decide to remove software, you can do that too, so u can take control of your machine more easily.
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[20:32] <laiya> gord_slater: i did just that instead im getting pacman .. its been a long time i played that
[20:32] <Jomatam> resolution    I tried that xorg code, but I dont see resolutions there
[20:32] <Dani> gary4gar, thanks a lot, if i want to activate nvidia i just add Driver "nvidia" to the device section, but as i said... it work at 640x480 at max
[20:32] <gaurav__> mut80r + KyleK: i have tried, some stuff today was upgraded, however i have 53 packages "not upgraded" from beta
[20:32] <bcnaat> mheath: for sound, someone mentioned checking there to see if my driver was restricted
[20:32] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: i insert the livecd to install hardy, it boots but hangs at "Loading Hardware Drivers...", booting without splash-screen says it hangs at "b43legacy-phy0: found blablabla" so i guess it's some kind of related to that one
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[20:32] <khaije1> krappe: that was totally spanich
[20:32] <khaije1> *spanish
[20:33] <akorn> Anybody know why i can't update to 8.04...i'm running 64 bit version...
[20:33] <bcnaat> I get system sounds, but no playback on anything - websites, cd etc
[20:33] <N3WFI3> bah the text rendering is so annoying
[20:33] <mheath> bcnaat: only a few sound drivers are restricted.
[20:33] <akorn> tried several servers and none of them are working for 64 bit
[20:33] <N3WFI3> anyway to downgrade back to old firefox?
[20:33] <gord_slater> laiya: and J_Humphrey: yeah good point J, the add/remove sopftware is a similar but cut-down version of synaptic
[20:33] <krappe> khaije1, I know.  I just wanted to know the french channel name.  I'm french.
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> laiya, if you like old arcade games check into xmame and roms which are available from all over.
[20:33] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: i already tried all the boot command stuff thingies like acpi=off, noapic, nolapic and so on
[20:33] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: looks like an issue with your wireless card
[20:33] <^^malajenho^> hi, I've installed hardy heron. I want to use my wifi BROADCOM with bcm43xx-fwcutter, but I obtain this error: bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o --->Cannot open input file /home/juanchi/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[20:33] <mheath> bcnaat: System sounds being.....crude beeps? Or the full sounds, just only for system things?
[20:33] <zachb> I can't wait until October!!!
[20:33] <bcnaat> mheath: thanks.
[20:33] <mut80r> N3WFI3: yes but I don't think it works
[20:33] <Slart> N3WFI3: search for firefox2.. it's supposed to be in the repos
[20:33] <tigran> gfxstyler: Do you use irrlicht?
[20:33] <gaurav__> akorn: you mean you can't download the x64 iso image?
[20:33] <khaije1> krappe: oic, nm :-)
[20:33] <bcnaat> mheath: when I do a check, it does the sounds, mostly strange sounds - beeps seem normal
[20:33] <gfxstyler> tigran: not anymore, why you ask?
[20:34] <akorn> gaurav_ woudl that be the simplest way? i was trying to do it thru the upgrade process thru the repos...
[20:34] <mheath> akorn: A lot of the servers are _heavily_ overloaded right now
[20:34] <tigran> gfxstyler: seen your name in that channel
[20:34] <Jomatam> where are resolutions in xorg
[20:34] <mheath> akorn: try the torrent
[20:34] <MKdx> Hello
[20:34] <MKdx> just to confirm about the preserving /home feature that was planned for ubuntu.. Is it implemented in 8.04?
[20:34] <mheath> akorn: Even that takes some patience, as the trackers are all overloaded.
[20:34] <gfxstyler> anyone else here who can't boot hardy >> stuck at "Loading Hardware Drivers..."
[20:34] <gaurav__> akorn: i would wait or try the torrent
[20:34] <akorn> gaurav_ and mheath yea i guess i'll do that instead! haha thanks...
[20:34] <laiya> Jack_Sparrow: whats xmams ?
[20:34] <akorn> exit
[20:34] <tigran> mheath: What can I do?
[20:34] <bcnaat> my only problem with hardy over the past few days is the sound issue and no flash playback on web
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> laiya, multi arcade machine emulator
[20:34] <erimar77> mheath: select the fastest mirrors in the software sources section
[20:35] <Xecuter> hi! just installed hardon! :D but having trouble with the terminal, the auto-completion isn't working like it used to... how can i fix that?
[20:35] <laiya> Jack_Sparrow: how do i download and play em ?
[20:35] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/195218     this is the bug i think
[20:35] <Wyleyrabbit> where can I get the checksums for 8.04?
[20:35] <Jomatam> What to do if I dont see needed resolution under resolutions
[20:35] <gary4gar> Dani, your config file is messed up
[20:35] <Dani> gary4gar why?
[20:35] <faemir> Jomatam, go to the 'screen' section
[20:35] <|chiz|> can someone tell me who is the user that will be executing an init script during startup if one is not specified in the script?
[20:35] <gary4gar> Dani, Wait, trying to fix it
[20:35] <bcnaat> I've tried removing and reinstalling alsa, etc, but that didn't help
[20:35] <Starnestommy> |chiz|: root
[20:35] <J_Humphrey> Xecuter: are you sure your not just trying the wrong names?
[20:35] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec.. phone call
[20:35] <Jomatam> Screen?
[20:35] <lch_> |chiz|: root
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[20:35] <mheath> Jomatam: do you have the driver for your graphics card installed?
[20:35] <nishanthgc> Hi ppl
[20:36] <Dani> gary4gar, thanks... but thats the very original one (before any change made)
[20:36] <Xecuter> J_Humphrey, jepp... i know how to write aptitude  and install :P
[20:36] <gangsterlicious> someone man 5 autofs
[20:36] <mheath> Jomatam: If you have an ATI or Nvidia card, you'll have to install the driver for it first by using System->Administration->Hardware Drivers.
[20:36] <mut80r> MSI 6877 Wireless in ubuntu 8.04, supported ?
[20:36] <Waffle> Wyleyrabbit, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS
[20:36] <Wyleyrabbit> thanks Waffle
[20:36] <Sinnerman> if i manage to somehow screw up my package files list/local repositories, say, by manually deleting them (accidentally), could i fix that by just firing up synaptic and clicking on reload or doing apt-get update?
[20:36] <linkinxp> a good tool to download Youtube videos?????
[20:36] <|chiz|> Starnestommy: 1ch_: thats odd because if I run /etc/init.d/blah start it works fine but just starting up this thing doesn't work
[20:36] <gord_slater> laiya: note that a lot of the applications in the synaptic lists might not be graphical applications, so don't look very flashy or dont even "look" at all, there are many ways to do stuff in linux, the bottom line is usually the command-line, and that's good enough for many jobs, so if you seem to "lose" something you just installed, it may not habve any graphical stuff at all, a lot of beginners say that to me
[20:36] <Dani> gary4gar i would say that's the default xorg.conf file in hardy (as it's said xorg now handles everything for you)... just a guess
[20:36] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:36] <MKdx> I meant this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome
[20:36] <KyleK> how do i exit a ssh ifit goes dead? do i have to kill from somewhere else?
[20:37] <twistage> How do you list hidden files in a directory under terminal
[20:37] <erimar77> KyleK: can't you just close the window
[20:37] <mattl> twistage: ls -la
[20:37] <mheath> mut80r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454990 says yes, with some problems.
[20:37] <Starnestommy> twistage: ls -a
[20:37] <lch_> |chiz|: the system runs these as root, if you start them manually use sudo in front of the command line
[20:37] <andycaas1> how to use gnome icon packs?
[20:37] <KyleK> i guess i could
[20:37] <grindhold> hello, got a problem with my sound. pulse does not work.. had oss driver before
[20:37] <nishanthgc> I was having trouble with one of the clients in the lab.After the grub initialises the particular client says that there is an error on disk /dev/hda1 and fsck tries to repair it automatically but doesnt succeed.It ask me to repair manually and warns me that the root file system is mounted  read only and prompts me for root password.
[20:37] <nishanthgc>              So I was wondering if you could help me out in figuring  the problem.I would sincerely appreciate your help if you can help me out in any way and is there a root password for the client or do i need to change the thin client settings on the server??
[20:37] <grindhold> does anyone know how to fix?
[20:37] <DBautell> Wyleyrabbit, if that's slow, here's a torrent only mirror ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[20:37] <tovare> My wlan got broke after upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04. [  311.308680] eth1: AP denied association (code=18) any ideas?
[20:37] <zombophone> How do I set what architecture to compile for with a standard autoconf ./configure script?
[20:37] <nith> does anyone know where the hardy MD5's are?
[20:37] <|chiz|> 1ch_: I'm saying that if I do it manually it works fine its just durning startup they don't start properly for some reason
[20:37] <mut80r> mheath: thanks
[20:38] <Dani> does anyone know why the theme improvement in early unestable versions of hardy has been removed?
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[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> laiya, sorry I had to take that call...  sudo apt-get install xmame     then gcxmame for gui front end of kxmame your choice
[20:38] <evand> MKdx: yes, it is.  Go into the advanced parititoner and make sure the format checkbox isn't checked for your root partition.
[20:38] <DBautell> nith ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[20:38] <openuser> do anybody know where are shared folders in hardy?
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[20:38] <erimar77> tovare: try going back to an open access point to see if its really broken
[20:38] <gary4gar> Dani, posting the modified config, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64272/. back up your previous one.
[20:38] <bd__> is anybody else update manager crashing?
[20:38] <tovare> erimar77: My AP is open.
[20:38] <nith> DBautell: thx
[20:38] <lch_> |chiz|: ok. is the script depending on some service that is not yet started when the script is run?e.g. if you use network or similar
[20:38] <laiya> gord_slater: oh ok .. hey that pacman isnt downloading .. i guess it isnt available anymore
[20:38] <erimar77> tovare: ouch
[20:38] <Wisteso> is there a way someone can upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 WITHOUT burning the cd, and just mounting the (desktop x86) ISO?
[20:38] <nith> DBautell: are there none posted on the ubuntu site?
[20:38] <KyleK> oh cute, spammin iwconfig wlan0 key mykey was needed to make wifi go
[20:39] <KyleK> sigh
[20:39] <tigran> mheath: The driver isnt working, in xorg.conf it says its using vesa driver...?
[20:39] <nith> Wisteso: look into a dist-upgrade
[20:39] <gord_slater> laiya: aha, _maybe_ just server load right now, its a pretty extreme day
[20:39] <DBautell> nith, they would be, but their servers are swamped, I'm sure
[20:39] <|chiz|> 1ch_: thats a good call, I didn't think of that
[20:39] <Dani> gary4gar thanks a lot i'm gonna try!
[20:39] <openuser> does anybody know where are shared folders in hardy?
[20:39] <gopp> were is the graphic card option in ubuntu
[20:39] <mattl> w/in 18
[20:39] <|chiz|> 1ch_: thats a good call, its mounting upnp devices so yeah it needs a few things to be up first
[20:39] <r_a_f> openuser: yea
[20:39] <Xecuter> J_Humphrey, i remember fixing auto-completion once, maybe i should try that again? but i dont remember...
[20:39] <Wisteso> nith, the server is too slow (and unreliable from our connection) and we already have the ISO.
[20:39] <andycaas1> how to use gnome icon packs?
[20:39] <El1> Hi guys I'm having problems installing nvidia drivers in hardy, I've tried envy, restricted drivers manager, but no success, could anyone help me with this please?
[20:39] <gary4gar> Dani, if X does not show up & then restore previous one
[20:39] <mheath> tigran: you've gone to System->Adminsitration->Hardware Drivers, checked the checkbox, and restarted?
[20:40] <tigran> mheath: yea
[20:40] <gopp> were is the shared tools option
[20:40] <cyris|> is it possible to add a configure directive to a package that gets downloaded/installed via apt-get? I'm assuming no but i thought id ask
[20:40] <grindhold> Eli:  load the .run driver file from nvidia.com and try that
[20:40] <tigran> mheath: Should I try again?
[20:40] <J_Humphrey> Xecuter: yeah, I don't know much about the more advanced topics, my best bet is to either reinstall, or check the orginal iso md5, or google it
[20:40] <Dani> gary4gar, ok... already had to do that some times...
[20:40] <MKdx> evand: thx, this is the same in ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu I assume?
[20:40] <Dani> xD
[20:40] <sploby> Hello everybody, i'm trying to install a Ati drive with envyng, but i occurs an erro that says: not support envy
[20:40] <sotap> Dani: It hasn't been removed, it's Human-Murrine in System->Preferences->Appearance, at least I think that's what I think you're referring to.
[20:40] <mheath> tigran: try once more.
[20:40] <nith> Wisteso: thx, the md5 listed matches my download :)
[20:40] <grindhold> El1 try to install the drivers from nvidia.com
[20:40] <franek> hi. how update 7.10 to 8.04 I have cd 8.04
[20:40] <tigran> mheath: Ok
[20:40] <lch_> |chiz|: so one thing is to use the number in the file name, likee S99... to make it start later. also note that some services in ubuntu are started when the user logs in, not when the system boots
[20:40] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:40] <El1> grindhold: isn't that what the nvidia-glx-new package does?
[20:40] <Jomatam> what driver I need for ATI Radeon 9250  ?
[20:40] <openuser> r_a_f: yes what???
[20:40] <J_Humphrey> franek: boot up the 8.04 iso as a live cd, and install 8.04
[20:41] <grindhold> El1 yes but sometimes it doesn't work
[20:41] <nazgul> evening. I messed up my /etc/udev/rules.d/ after following suggestions on this channel. I managed to get the system booting again, but removable media (usb sticks etc) don't get auto-mounted any more. I've tried re-installing all kind of packages (udev,hal..) and manually extracting the udev .deb. I cann see in the kernel messages that the media are detected. Any ideas what udev rule may be missing?
[20:41] <grindhold> El1 i had problems with that
[20:41] <El1> and grindhold: if I try that it says it can't find a pre-compiled kernel
[20:41] <sploby> what would that be?
[20:41] <El1> so it just quits
[20:41] <Dani> gary4gar, no luck... i got but to this ugly 640x480
[20:41] <ois> how do I unbind a keyboard shortcut in ubuntu 7.10 gnome?
[20:41] <Mads-b> I need help connecting to the internet on 7.10 (wired). It worked one week ago on the same setup, so no hardware problem..
[20:41] <deeflex> Just upgraded to hardy but now my logitech mice back/forward buttons are not working in Firefox. Any suggestions?
[20:41] <nishanthgc> I am having trouble with one of my thin clients can someone help me out plzz
[20:41] <kumarm0hit> I have this lenovo notebook with an EISA  hidden recovery partitin I a about to install hardy. If I make it take the entire disc, I think it would remove the EISA partition as well
[20:41] <Jomatam> radeon 9250 driver?
[20:41] <Cpudan80> When you do an upgrade from the ISO - you have to use the alternate CD right?
[20:41] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, hey, i've found this which explains it: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9159
[20:41] <jon_> How can i mount my windows ntfs partition in hardy
[20:41] <evand> MKdx: Yes.  One last point: please make sure you have backups.
[20:41] <LadyNikon> nishanthgc: just ask your question.
[20:42] <grindhold> then you must get into the synaptic package manager and search for linux-header oder kernel-header or something. dunno anymore and download the packages.. give me a moment to search
[20:42] <grindhold> then you must get into the synaptic package manager and search for linux-header oder kernel-header or something. dunno anymore and download the packages.. give me a moment to search El1
[20:42] <nazgul> ois: with the backspace key
[20:42] <Arelis> Anyone want to help me get my tablet to work? It's a Wacom Bamboo Fun. I installed the "wacom-tools" package and did "modprobe wacom" but i still don't have /dev/input/wacom (which indicates if the system detects it or not). When i wave my pen over it it does nothing.
[20:42] <Dani> gary4gar system -> preferences -> Res, only shoes 640x480 and 320x240 both 50 Hz...
[20:42] <franek> J_Humphrey thx
[20:42] <DBautell> Cpudan80, I understood that to be the case, but have been informed that it may be broken
[20:42] <J_Humphrey> Mads-b: you might have to unclick "enable wireless" on the right click menu of the wifimanager
[20:42] <ois> nazgul: thanks
[20:42] <[BT]JaC> hi there, how can i make the terminal use color?
[20:42] <Assid> hey
[20:42] <|chiz|> 1ch_: I used update-rc.d blah defaults to put it in there
[20:42] <gary4gar> Dani, Press ALT+CTL+ Plus sign "+"
[20:42] <Dani> i did that, gary4gar
[20:42] <Assid> what happened to avant?
[20:42] <Cpudan80> DBautell: broken?
[20:42] <Jomatam> Radeon 9250 driver  is it in symantic packages?  whitch one?
[20:42] <Assid> its not int he repositories?
[20:42] <nazgul> ois: it says so in the explanation text
[20:42] <LadyNikon> bts3685: which terminal?
[20:42] <Mads-b> J_Humprey: no difference. I thinked my father has f*ked up the settings :
[20:42] <grindhold> El1 search linux-headers
[20:43] <El1> did, and all installed
[20:43] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:43] <sploby> anyone?
[20:43] <El1> btw, installing the nvidia.com package, isn't that what envy does?
[20:43] <openuser> shared folders doesn't appear in my hardy, why?
[20:43] <El1> when manually installing I can select the 169.* drivers
[20:43] <gary4gar> Dani, hmm
[20:43] <DBautell> Cpudan80, all I have is this: http://pastebin.com/me18e45a I'll be trying it myself before long
[20:43] <lch_> |chiz|: ok, that is good, but i never did that with custom scripts. i guess there is some option to specify the number to launch it later
[20:43] <jon_> How can i mount my windows ntfs partition in hardy
[20:43] <Jomatam> ATI  radeon 9250 driver needed
[20:43] <jugimaster> hey..  i can't even boot up the damn installation!  - 7.10 didn't realize i have a hdd, but agreed to boot up by adding "irqpoll" to the boot-up parameters (whatever they actually are :))..  so now what?
[20:43] <Samstone|Junior> Hi all
[20:43] <El1> which in particular should be installed btw?
[20:43] <Pusselgenerator> blue|palm: Oh, I'm going to read that, thanks!
[20:44] <Abd> the upgrade is soooo slllooowwww
[20:44] <LadyNikon> !ntfs | jon_
[20:44] <ubotu> jon_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:44] <tim__b> i have a little tar issue: i want to backup my home using tar --exclude-tag-all='CACHEDIR.TAG' -czf file.foo -g timestamps ~ When using the -g switch --exclude* is ignored, withour -g --exclude* works. for incremental backups i need -g but don't want to waste space on some special directorys containing the CACHEDIR.TAG file. (answer please with nick highlight, thanks)
[20:44] <jugimaster> (right, i'm trying to start 8.04 now ofc)
[20:44] <Dani> gary4gar, my eyes are hurting :P ... next shoot should be the envy thing, don't you think?
[20:44]  * tovare found a bug reference indicating that my wlan woes is related to the iwl3945 driver.
[20:44] <grindhold> El1 one question.. if envy does the same as the nvidia driver, how may envy install it without the header files? :)
[20:44] <the_corona> why wont my driver work :-(
[20:44] <ois> nazgul: duh :( I just skim read it as "press this key to edit, or this one"
[20:44] <Mighty^^> one last time
[20:44] <Cpudan80> DBautell: According to the bugsite - the fix was pushed out in feb
[20:44] <El1> that's the problem it gave me the same error
[20:44] <Mighty^^> All .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[20:44] <KyleK> hah i cant make my wireless work, iwconfig wlan0 essid wireless isn't settin it
[20:44] <gopp> were is the graphic card option in ubuntu
[20:44] <Cpudan80> DBautell: maybe that guy has an old iso
[20:44] <El1> couldn't find install candidate or something
[20:44] <sploby> my video card is a ATI
[20:44] <bts3685> LadyNikon: i think you have me confused with someone else
[20:44] <Mads-b> What's the checklist for fixing wired network? First time I've ever had this problem on linux..
[20:45] <Jomatam> HELP   ATI radeon 9250  driver needed   HELP
[20:45] <gary4gar> Dani, google for "screen resolution ubuntu", you will get your answers, perhaps are you sure you have installed driver?
[20:45] <El1> but eventually it did install with envy, but I'm assuming not properly
[20:45] <elliott_> KyleK: what driver?
[20:45] <DBautell> Cpudan80, could be, I know nothing, just yet
[20:45] <grindhold> El1 open the synaptic package manager and search for linux-headers
[20:45] <the_corona> i have ati card too, and the driver doesnt work :-(
[20:45] <[BT]JaC> how can i make the terminal use color?
[20:45] <kuse> Anyone got any solution for the bonobo-application-server errormessages in hardy?
[20:45] <sploby> i'm trying dual-head but got no lucky
[20:45] <gary4gar> Dani, does "glxinfo | grep rendering" says yes?
[20:45] <the_corona> hd2600 xt and with the ati driver the pc crashes on boot :-(
[20:45] <MKdx> evand: excellent, thanks
[20:45] <livingdaylight> anyone know how i convert a mp3 file to wav?
[20:46] <the_corona> is there any other way to get those nice desktop effects without the ati driver?
[20:46] <El1> did that grindhold and I think all nescessary ones are installed
[20:46] <grindhold> El1: then download linux-headers-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-16 and linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic
[20:46] <Cpudan80> DBautell: only 1 more minute on the download - plus a few for the burn - so we'll see
[20:46] <Dani> yes, gary4gar
[20:46] <faemir> livingdaylight, why you want to do that?
[20:46] <Assid> err wheres avant ?
[20:46] <Dani> gary4gar... believe i did google a bunch before making you lose your time with me
[20:46] <gord_slater> Mads-b: do you know if you have DCHP, tell u show you normally conect to the internet, is it ADSL? for example
[20:46]  * Assid scratches his head
[20:46] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: I'm not sure
[20:46] <Jomatam> HELP   ATI radeon 9250  driver needed   HELP
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[20:46] <deeflex> Just upgraded to hardy but now my logitech mice back/forward buttons are not working in Firefox. Any suggestions?
[20:46] <DBautell> Cpudan80, you can just mount the ISO without burning it
[20:46] <MasterShrek> !ati
[20:46] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:46] <livingdaylight> faemir, to change login sound
[20:46] <Dani> gary4gar i could find anything, truth be told, i found some old bugs
[20:46] <El1> Those are installed grindhold
[20:47] <faemir> livingdaylight, audacity probably can
[20:47] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: probably not though, because you have to have 3D stuff
[20:47] <Cpudan80> DBautell: good point
[20:47] <jugimaster> Problem: Adding "irqpoll" to boot options used to revive my computer with 7.10 but doesn't work with 8.04.  - Any ideas?
[20:47] <thebigham> i just updated to hardy, how come the wireless broadcom driver doesnt show up on the hardware drivers list where i can enable, but it did showed up during the live cd install session.
[20:47] <the_corona> i did all that ubotu but it crashes after reboot (screen stays black and keyboard is "dead")
[20:47] <tovare> Why is it that when I try to do a manual configuration, that I am unable to choose an open network. The only options I have are WEP WPA and WPA2 ??  (My open wlan isn't working).
[20:47] <gary4gar> Dani, hmmm, forward a mail into the mailing list?
[20:47] <phoenix24> Whenever I mount a windows share in I get, "cannot find application to handle smb://". How can I mount SAMBA Shares ???
[20:47] <grindhold> El1 hrmm did you allow the nvidia driver installer to download a precompiled kernel from nvidia.com? or did envy ask you for that?
[20:47] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: but either ask in here, (I'm not that knowledgeable) or google it
[20:47] <Mads-b> Gord_slater: usually DHCP. I've tried disabling roaming mode and setting DHCP manually, but no difference
[20:47] <El1> didn't ask me for it, but the original nvidia installer did
[20:47] <the_corona> i am asking in here J_Humphrey :-) but thnx
[20:47] <Dani> gary4gar, i'm not in the mailing list
[20:48]  * Joeseph celebrates from a corrected xorg configuration :)
[20:48] <Dani> gary4gar how can I?
[20:48] <grindhold> El1 did you confirm the question in the nvidia installeR?
[20:48] <gord_slater> ah ok then, do you have another computer on the network? does it work? a laptop maybe? b4 you really break the ubuntu rofl
[20:48] <gary4gar> Dani, lists.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: what I meant was put it all the information you have in a single question :)
[20:48] <evand> MKdx: anytime :)
[20:48] <Cpudan80> How do you mount an ISO again?
[20:48] <gord_slater> Mads-b: ah ok then, do you have another computer on the network? does it work? a laptop maybe? b4 you really break the ubuntu rofl
[20:48] <the_corona> also, can somebody tell me why rythmbox (that music player) wont import files from a windows server? (I can browse the servers contents just fine)
[20:48] <Dani> gary4gar thanks for your time, info and help, i'll do that after dinner
[20:48] <El1> wait, just found something: says linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic is not installed, but in synaptic it says it is
[20:48] <Dani> gary4gar thanks a lot!!!
[20:48] <Gman99999> my update manager is goign all dark and failing to respond I was updating to the latest release but had to reboot halfway through the download, what could be wrong?
[20:48] <thebigham> i just updated to hardy, how come the wireless broadcom driver doesnt show up on the hardware drivers list where i can enable, but it did showed up during the live cd install session.
[20:49] <Mads-b> gord_slater: network is always up and running. It's the settings on the ubuntu box that's complaining. Tho arch boxer running on the same LAN constantly downloading :D
[20:49] <DBautell> Cpudan80, mount -o loop name.iso /dir/to/mnt
[20:49] <Cpudan80> DBautell: ty
[20:49] <gary4gar> Dani, Don't make me small, i didn't help you a bit :(
[20:49] <Dani> gary4gar... you tried hard ;)
[20:49] <kbrooks> the_corona, copy the files to your home directory.
[20:49] <the_corona> kbrooks:  lol
[20:49] <El1> oh wait no, the 15 and 16 are installed but not 14, how can I add that to synaptic? linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[20:49] <El1>  that is
[20:50] <gord_slater> laiya: ok, so you're payed the bill the :):) ok, whell i start with the physical layer 1st, is there a light on the swith or back of the PC network card? maybe a pet chewed it or some1 tripped on wire?
[20:50] <gary4gar> Dani, do ping me as a PM, after dinner, we would see it again
[20:50] <kbrooks> the_corona, simple enough
[20:50] <Assid> okay whats better
[20:50] <twistage> whats the name of the file search front end so i can run it from terminal
[20:50] <Wyleyrabbit> I'm trying to burn the 8.04 cd using the built-in CD burner (whatever is installed by default) in Ubuntu 7.10. I have now made 4 coasters in a row. WTF??? Am I missing something? The software seems to have zero options to tweak, other than recording speed and I've tried everything from 16x down to 2x with the same result. What should I be using?
[20:50] <Assid> adovbe flash or gnash
[20:50] <gord_slater> laiya: sorry ,meant for Mads-b : ok, so you're payed the bill the :):) ok, whell i start with the physical layer 1st, is there a light on the swith or back of the PC network card? maybe a pet chewed it or some1 tripped on wire?
[20:50] <Gat0rvean> where can I find a torrent link for 8.04?
[20:50] <the_corona> kbrooks: thats not a good solution at all
[20:50] <J_Humphrey> Wyleyrabbit: don't make data CDs, you have to make iso images
[20:50] <OllieA> I need to add a new resolution to my drop down box, open a new chat with me to help!  Please!!
[20:50] <gary4gar> Wyleyrabbit, is your burner really okay?
[20:50] <Starnestommy> Gat0rvean: it's in the topic message
[20:50] <DBautell> Gat0rvean, ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[20:51] <steven2> hello!
[20:51] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps crashing why?
[20:51] <J_Humphrey> Wyleyrabbit: Right click the iso file, and write to disc
[20:51] <tigran> mheath: Its the same thing and the driver still says vesa in xorg
[20:51] <icanhasproxy> My GDM is borked on default hardy install. splash login comes up, hangs after login before gnome loads. if i /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and startx, gnome works fine. can't tell what's hanging it
[20:51] <Wyleyrabbit> J_Humphrey: I have just been right-clicking the iso and choosing "write to disc"
[20:51] <OllieA> I need to add a new resolution to my drop down box, open a new chat with me to help!  Please!!
[20:51] <the_corona> then maybe somebody can tell me this, how can i make sure i dont have to manually mount a partition (ntfs) after each reboot?
[20:51] <KrimZon> i could do with grabbing the release iso
[20:51] <Gman99999> Im halfway downloading the next release and I cant get the update mamnager to go again
[20:51] <Cpudan80> DBautell: ./cdromupgrade
[20:51] <Cpudan80> tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[20:51] <Wyleyrabbit> gary4gar: have used same burner in windows for past 6 months and not a single coaster from it.
[20:52] <DBautell> Cpudan80, does work?
[20:52] <Cpudan80> DBautell: looks like there's an error after all
[20:52] <Joeseph> Do updates update desktop managers also?
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[20:52] <wubrgamer> is 7.10 firewalled by default like 8.04?
[20:52] <MikeCulver> icanhasproxy: Have you tried changing session settings?
[20:52] <El1> nvm grindhold, I'll find it from here, thanks a lot for the help :-)
[20:52] <DBautell> Cpudan80, :(
[20:52] <Cpudan80> DBautell: no - it complains about that tar file missing
[20:52] <KyleK> firewalled?
[20:52] <shrift> hey guys, I'm probably asking the same question as everyone else.... Anyone know of a working, updated 8.04 repository?
[20:52] <faemir> Wyleyrabbit, use brasero (gnome) or k3b (kde)
[20:52] <wubrgamer> ufw
[20:52] <Starnestommy> wubrgamer: yes, but there are no rules set by default in its firewall
[20:52] <gord_slater> Mads-b:my next check, if lights are on,  is  to type    sudo ifconfig -a    in a terminal, I check i can actually see the NIC there, for example, eth0
[20:52] <Wyleyrabbit> faemir: I'll give that a try
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[20:52] <milly1234> can a ubuntu 8.04 wipe out the entire install other then a home dir during install to keep personal files but give the system a fresh start?
[20:52] <flask_> so did the torrent servers ever come back?
[20:52] <faemir> Wyleyrabbit, :)
[20:52] <KyleK> shrift: are you in canada?
[20:53] <wubrgamer> does 8.04 have rules set ?
[20:53] <OllieA> I need to add a new resolution to my drop down box, open a new chat with me to help!  Please!!
[20:53] <nickt> hi all - just tried to use the 8.04 live disk but it didnt pick up my wireless card for my laptop when the older cd did - why could this be?
[20:53] <shrift> kylek: us, but I'd use any that worked... I don't need a lot of packages. : (
[20:53] <J_Humphrey> milly1234: yes, but you have to have the /home directory on a seperate parition
[20:53] <nazgul> shrift: the de.* ones work
[20:53] <Mads-b> gord_slater: I see my eth0 and eth1 (two cards), but no IÅ
[20:53] <shrift> nazgul: tyvm I'll try that
[20:53] <Mads-b> *IP
[20:53] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps failing does anyone know why?
[20:53] <thebigham> i just updated to hardy, how come the wireless broadcom driver doesnt show up on the hardware drivers list where i can enable, but it did showed up during the live cd install session.
[20:53] <gary4gar> shrift, you have to wait for some more time
[20:53] <milly1234> darn, wish 7.10 defaulted to home being a seperate partition
[20:53] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps failing does anyone know why?
[20:53] <MemoryDump> should "./cdromupgrade" still be performed on a running version of Hardy Beta with all the updates applied up until yesterday? or would a "apt-get update/upgrade" do the trick to fix/updated changed files?
[20:53] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps failing does anyone know why?
[20:53] <Flare183> On Kubuntu, when I go and try to upgrade to hardy the button "Version Upgrade" Does not show up, even after I click
[20:53] <Starnestommy> Gman99999: I think a lot of the update servers are geting a heavy load due to the new release
[20:54] <J_Humphrey> milly1234: there is away of migrating /home to a seperate dir, google it, and you'll find it
[20:54] <Flare183> On Kubuntu, when I go and try to upgrade to hardy the button "Version Upgrade" Does not show up, even after I click Fetch updates (correction)
[20:54] <lch_> MemoryDump: use apt-get  that will be fine
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[20:54] <Wyleyrabbit> Gman99999: repeating your question like that will just annoy people!
[20:54] <Gman99999> my update manager goes black like its crashed why is that?
[20:54] <MemoryDump> lch_: thanks :)
[20:54] <gord_slater> Mads-b: OK then, you say u normally have DHCP, but has the card got an IP assigned to it? MIne once got "out of synch " with the networkmanager applet thingy......manual ip was set by mistake no matter what i did
[20:54] <nazgul> Gman99999: calm down. does it continue its service later on?
[20:54] <compaqr4000> Gman99999. It is busy....wait
[20:54] <lch_> MemoryDump: you can of course also use the graphical update manager :-)
[20:54] <openuser> does someone know why sahred folders app doesn't appear on my ubuntu?????????????????
[20:55] <Gman99999> nazgul ok I
[20:55] <arbrandes> Dag nabbit, 20kbps on the update... This is going to take forever.
[20:55] <pjoul> Gman99999: download hardy iso and reinstall your previous installatio
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, Here is a page on that.. a bit outdated, but still good info  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[20:55] <lch_> openuser: firewall on the windows box?
[20:55] <Gman99999> nazgul ok Im going to wait hopefully it wont be like this forever
[20:55] <DBautell> Cpudan80, I wonder if one can add the CD as a repo
[20:55] <arbrandes> DBautell, yes you can.
[20:55] <J_Humphrey> thanks Jack_Sparrow for getting that, I'm writing the 8.04 image, and didnt want to mess it up by opening firefox :)
[20:55] <bpr> how do i check which package owns a particular file?
[20:55] <Gman99999> can you upgrade to hardy heron with the iso?
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:55] <J_Humphrey> DBautell: you can
[20:56] <arbrandes> Gman99999, yes you can
[20:56] <steven> hey steven2
[20:56] <gord_slater> Mads-b: you could try manually setting an IP that you know to be free, on the same subnet, and see what happens. stop me if i'm confusing from here
[20:56] <steven> lol
[20:56] <Cpudan80> DBautell: It works
[20:56] <nazgul> Gman99999: apps (temporarily) not reacting fade b&w. the compiz window manager does this. if it stays like this for , say, >10min something is wrong
[20:56] <DBautell> tyvek, ty, ty
[20:56] <weltall> does anyone know if hardy packages are updated enough to say no to this? Create deprecated sysfs files (SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
[20:56] <DBautell> doh
[20:56] <Wunar> What is the apt-way of searching which package provides some file? (something like yum whatprovides /usr/bin/firefox)?
[20:56] <steven2> hi steven, but stop using my nick
[20:56] <jrabbit> Wtf the iso is too large!
[20:56] <macd> !avg
[20:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:56] <Cpudan80> DBautell: Give it the full path when you exec it
[20:56] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:56] <Gman99999> nazgul ok its been 10 mins
[20:56] <Joeseph> Alright, I've got a question not relating to the new update- its more computer generic though: My network, or possilby my network manager, keeps booting me off the network.  Sometimes it seems random, and sometimes its when I access certain cites, such as Facebook.   Can anyone think of anything that could be causing it?
[20:56] <arbrandes> Gman99999, but it will still need to download extra packages from the internet.  I'm doing this now.
[20:56] <Cpudan80> DBautell: debrac@zazu:/media/iso$ sudo /media/iso/cdromupgrade
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, please dont use that shorthand in here
[20:56] <jrabbit> How can I keep it bootable but slim it down?
[20:56] <DBautell> Cpudan80, ok, good deal
[20:56] <openuser> Ich_: firewall, don't know what are saying, sorry, i'm spanish, but what I'm trying to say is i don't see the application shared dolders on system>Administracion
[20:56] <Brandon_> curious what do I type to get the CPU usage on a ubuntu server?
[20:56] <nickt> is there any reason why hardware drivers for a common wireless system would be dropped?
[20:57] <jrabbit> Jack_Sparrow: please don't release data 6 mb over limits
[20:57] <tigran> Jack_Sparrow: I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[20:57] <Flare183> nevermind
[20:57] <elduchy> oi
[20:57] <mistapapa> is here anyone that is willing to help me with my wlan? when resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect... :'(
[20:57] <nazgul> Gman99999: if you dont have a computer from the stone age it hangs for sure. kill it and retry.
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, Just try to burn it...
[20:57] <Gman99999> so now I have to download the iso to get this update finished?
[20:57] <jrabbit> Everything says its TOO BIG
[20:57] <arbrandes> Gman99999, no, but it'll probably finish faster if you start over from the CD.
[20:57] <Gman99999> nazgul I have a new laptop and Ive done it a few times
[20:57] <J_Humphrey> well, I'm off, installing 8.04 now
[20:58] <lch_> Gman99999: try patience ;-)
[20:58] <DBautell> Gman99999, You'll need the alternate ISO to do that
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, iso's contain info about the original that is not actually burned to a cd
[20:58] <elliott_> Brandon_: top and uptime will show you relevant info
[20:58] <jrabbit> "699 needed 656 avail"
[20:58] <arbrandes> Gman99999, oh that's right, you need either the alternate cd or the DVD.
[20:58] <nazgul> Gman99999: you do a Ubtuntu CD install?
[20:58] <wizo> hey guys
[20:58] <elduchy> someone can help me with a soundcard problem on hardy ??? please pvt me
[20:58] <Cpudan80> DBautell: aww man - it wants to remove my apache and VLC
[20:58] <Cpudan80> :-(
[20:58] <dethstar> !trash
[20:58] <ubotu> The location of Trash has changed in 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash
[20:58] <snarkste1> I have a HP external USB cd burner that I cant get to mount a disc, lsusb does see show the device. any clues?
[20:58] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, cd upgrade?
[20:58] <mistapapa> elduchy: make the move to 804
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, my disks all say 700mb
[20:58] <PriceChild> Does anyone use rtorrent and know how to add extra trackers to an existing torrent?
[20:58] <wizo> just a question, if i do a command like this : xload &, should the program still continue running even after i have closed the terminal?
[20:59] <lch_> jrabbit: there are 650MB and 700MB media, you need the later...
[20:59] <Cpudan80> arbrandes: Yes - why?
[20:59] <Brandon_> elliott_, oh didn't realize that's what those numbers were heh. Thanks
[20:59] <kumarm0hit> would broadcom wifi and ethernet work out of the box in hardy?
[20:59] <mistapapa> elduchy: new soundsubsystem on board
[20:59] <milly1234> thank you Jack_Sparrow
[20:59] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, you should let it download packages from the net too.
[20:59] <jrabbit> lch_: Its obviously not ethier of them :"|
[20:59] <tumbleweed05> hows hardy everyone? stable? fantastic?
[20:59] <Gman99999> nazgul do i have the gutsy gibbon cd?
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, np  also please see uuid
[20:59] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, or use the DVD to update.
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid > milly1234
[20:59] <shrift> nazgul: the de. servers are indeed working. tyvm.
[20:59] <DBautell> Cpudan80, both beyond my needs/knowledge... conflicts with other packages?
[20:59] <Gman99999> nazgul or the new hardy heron?
[20:59] <Wunar> How to determine which package installed some file, like "which_deb_to_blame_for /usr/bin/firefox" ?
[21:00] <elliott_> Brandon_: load average should be somewhere between 0 and the number of cores/processors you have, and the highter the more used it is
[21:00] <NeT_DeMoN> the wireless options not in my connections tab :S does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:00] <Cpudan80> arbrandes: Yes but the packages from the net thing is painfully slow
[21:00] <suwro> hello
[21:00] <gord_slater> Mads-b: still with me?  next real step is to ping your default gateway if you know it, assuming u get (dhcp) or have given(manual) the card an IP
[21:00] <MikeCulver> I can't get DRI or compiz working on my Fire GL T2.  I'm using the open source driver, but glxinfo says "libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)"
[21:00] <Brandon_> elliott_, yeah 1.13
[21:00] <tumbleweed05> hey suwro
[21:00] <icanhasproxy> NeT_DeMoN: load your wireless card module
[21:00] <milly1234> thanks Jack_Sparrow, ran into that one when I was trying to get my windows partition mountable when I added the drive as a second drive
[21:00] <compaqr4000> kumarm0hit: mine did not
[21:00] <mistapapa> is here anyone that is willing to help me with my wlan? when resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect... :'(
[21:00] <Netham45> trying to update my server, but it is hanging on getting update-manager-core through apt-get
[21:00] <crdlb> MikeCulver: uninstall fglrx (xorg-driver-fglrx)
[21:00] <tumbleweed05> #ubuntu is quite busy today.
[21:00] <NeT_DeMoN> icanhasproxy: how do i do that?
[21:00] <weltall> does anyone know if hardy packages are updated enough to say no to this? Create deprecated sysfs files (SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
[21:00] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, yes, I have the same problem.  I downloaded the cd torrent in one hour, but it's taking a further 3 hours for the remaining packages.
[21:00] <Gman99999> nazgul Im running a partial upgrade now so hopefully it will fix it
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, just trying to cover the bases..
[21:00] <ericus> how do i upgrade from feisty to hardy using the command line?
[21:00] <MikeCulver> crdlb: not using fglrx.. also, it's uninstalled already
[21:00] <reverseblade> I can't seem to uninstall openpanel, can anyone help ?
[21:00] <icanhasproxy> NeT_DeMoN: you probabaly don't without fixing something first. if it didn't start itself it's broken for sure
[21:00] <ericus> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wont work
[21:00] <NeT_DeMoN> tumbleweed05: of course, hardy was released today :P
[21:00] <]tla[> Hi.  I have installed Hardy under VMWare.  The VMware-Tools do not compile under Hardy.  Is there an update available to VMware-Tools that will compile?  I Can't find anything on the vmware web site.  Thx.
[21:01] <milly1234> no, I appreaciate it actually, you are most helpful and friendly
[21:01] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, the DVD iso would probably be quicker, but the torrent is not that fast either.
[21:01] <tumbleweed05> NeT_DeMoN: i know lol.
[21:01] <crdlb> MikeCulver: are you sure? It's definitely still present
[21:01] <Cpudan80> arbrandes: The stuff isnt that critical - I can go without a web server for one day
[21:01] <NeT_DeMoN> icanhasproxy: it works one my vista side of the partition
[21:01] <nazgul> Gman99999: what did you tell the update manager to do? update your distriubution?
[21:01] <elduchy> lspci sais i Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
[21:01] <Brodwen> I'm thinking of installing Hardy to dual-boot with Vista, will I run into any serious problems?
[21:01] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I'll try to purge it
[21:01] <crdlb> MikeCulver: if you've removed the package, you can: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx
[21:01] <Brandon_> elliott_, heh stupid question how does one find out the hardware info on a computer?
[21:01] <fliegenderfrosch> Brodwen:  you shouldn't
[21:01] <fation_linuX> hello to all
[21:01] <fation_linuX> :P
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, I always appreciate a polite response...
[21:01] <Fishscene> ]tla[ that's a question for vmware... Thanks for the heads-up on that though. I'm a vmware fan as well.
[21:01] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, hehehe, roger that.
[21:01] <Gman99999> nazgul its working again I just picked to do a partial upgrade when it asked me when it opened
[21:01] <nikitis> When does support on 7.10 run out?
[21:01] <mistapapa> ]tla[: vmware tools are horrible... i also got lots of problems
[21:01] <tumbleweed05> hey fation_linuX
[21:01] <suwro> Is there any way to make firefox 2 the default browser - I find ff3 broken, instable and a lot of pages are not shown correct - I have a feeling like I use IE instead firefox...
[21:01] <fation_linuX> ;)
[21:01] <[BT]JaC> how can i make the terminal use color?
[21:02] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I've also reinstalled those as well as per the DRI wiki..
[21:02] <arbrandes> nikitis, in a year.
[21:02] <Brodwen> Also; Is the Windows installed included on the ISO on the Ubuntu website?
[21:02] <Fishscene> mistapapa, what OS?
[21:02] <Brandon_> fliegenderfrosch, you mean ubuntu doesn't have a "hardware manager"?
[21:02] <ericus> [BT]JaC, under profiles
[21:02] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I'll try removing fglrx further as you suggested
[21:02] <nikitis> arbrandes, thanks
[21:02] <ericus> colors
[21:02] <mistapapa> [BT]JaC: edit bashrc
[21:02] <tigran> I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[21:02] <fliegenderfrosch> Brodwen: if you use wubi, you don't even have to mess with partitions
[21:02] <suwro> ??
[21:02] <bicyclis1> mistapapa My recommendations is always, try virtualbox
[21:02] <dustybin> if ubuntu is based on debian, what parts of debian is it based on?
[21:02] <Brodwen> Thanks Fliegender
[21:02] <bahadunn> virtualbox is sweet
[21:02] <arbrandes> nikitis, you're welcome
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[21:02] <Brandon_> fliegenderfrosch, sorry hit the wrong key
[21:02] <daekdroom> dustybin: Apt
[21:02] <bahadunn> dustybin: all of it?
[21:02] <crdlb> MikeCulver: does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say direct rendering: enabled ?
[21:03] <dustybin> daekdroom: just apt?
[21:03] <baske> hello all, anyone experienced problem with intel 4965 wireless networking after updating ubuntu8.04 recently?
[21:03] <fliegenderfrosch> Brandon_: thought so :)
[21:03] <mistapapa> tigran: sorry... ain't got an idea... I'm on ati
[21:03] <icanhasproxy> NeT_DeMoN: vista is going to have nothing to do with wrong / incorrectly installed linux drivers
[21:03] <daekdroom> dustybin: Well. Apt and comes everything that depends on apt :p
[21:03] <MikeCulver> crdlb: Yes.. and that's what threw me off to begin with
[21:03] <Mads-b> gord_slater: I just identified the problem :P After troubleshooting every concieveable software problem, I discovered that the hub the computer war plugged into was not powered (of course my homebrew poewr splitter melted) :D
[21:03] <tigran> mistapapa: Thanks anyway
[21:03] <dustybin> ok
[21:03] <DrX> What might be causing a green screen and pointer only for the GUI at startup (command line login OK) and what can be done about it?
[21:03] <bicyclis1> bahadunn just a had a presentation today and all the folks just said. Wow, look he uses Windows. All i said, sure, but trapped inside virtualbox and the master os is sweet ubuntu ;)
[21:03] <suwro> dustybin: what part do you want? - debian is debian - clean "keep it simple" linux.
[21:03] <PaulMooney> fliegenderfrosch: ?
[21:03] <mistapapa> tigran: :-/
[21:03] <daekdroom> dustybin: X.org is debian's too.
[21:03] <MikeCulver> crdlb: DRIconf won't start correctly, and glxanything all report a problem
[21:03] <DBautell> DVD torrent link, anyone?
[21:03] <suwro> anyone have problems with firefox 3 ?
[21:03] <fliegenderfrosch> PaulMooney: what is it?
[21:03] <dustybin> daekdroom: so ubuntu stole apt, and xorg?
[21:03] <wizo> hey, if i run a program from the command line and append it with a &, is it meant to continue even after i close the terminal?
[21:03] <numaan> having trouble downloading repositories
[21:04] <daekdroom> dustybin: and almost everything else.
[21:04] <PaulMooney> fliegenderfrosch: my fault.  i thought you were talking to me.  my name is brandon... didn't realize that my nick wasn't at th etime
[21:04] <jappdev> suwro:it runs great, just waiting for plugins to be updated for it
[21:04] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: virtualbox is nice.  I started using it a few months ago and I was not sure why I never heard of it before then
[21:04] <]tla[> Error is: "include/linux/types.h:40: error: conflicting types for ‘uintptr_t’"
[21:04] <fliegenderfrosch> PaulMooney: np :)
[21:04] <daekdroom> dustybin: But Ubuntu has a different release cycle.
[21:04] <arbrandes> DBautell, http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[21:04] <tigran> Well lets say nvidia driver is installed but xorg inst being updated, whats the name of the driver so I can manually try to change in xorg
[21:04] <bicyclis1> What i love is the seemless mode and that you can resize it and the resolution adapts.
[21:04] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: I was using qemu before virtualbox but qemu was too slow on my hardware
[21:04] <mistapapa> when I resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect to wireless lan... :'( is there a way to manually get wlan up?
[21:04] <Mimi> Hello, I think Hardy is very cool so far... I have selected "Advanced" desktop effects... but where do I go to customise it? And where's Emerald?  Thanks in advance
[21:04] <bicyclis1> and of course the performacne
[21:04] <suwro> dustybin: stole is impropper to say - both applications you mention are open sources
[21:04] <DBautell> arbrandes, thanks
[21:04] <dustybin> daekdroom: aye true, debian has a slow release cycle, ubuntu twice a year
[21:04] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: virtualbox is very fast though
[21:04] <gaara> hi
[21:04] <arbrandes> DBautell, you're welcome
[21:04] <Fishscene> Mimi, in 7.04, you needed to install the compiz extensions from add/remove software
[21:04] <fliegenderfrosch> Mimi: you have to install cssm for more configuration
[21:05] <NeT_DeMoN> icanhasproxy: how do i fix it then?
[21:05] <Mimi> DOH!! Thanks guys!!
[21:05] <tumbleweed05> alright. i'm out. later people.
[21:05] <bicyclis1> True. And it allows me to use several virtual oses in parallel.
[21:05] <tigran> mistapapa: you have to add it to a whitelist or blacklist cant remember which one or where it was, try googling
[21:05] <linkmaster03> can I get Hardy from Update Manager?
[21:05] <Marfi> is anyone else having problems installing packages?
[21:05] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: I have had entire virtual networks of systems running with virtualbox in one machine
[21:05] <mistapapa> is here anyone that is willing to help me with my wlan? when resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect... :'(
[21:05] <tumbleweed05> enjoy hardy since i can't.
[21:05] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: yes
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <gord_slater> Mads-b: haha glad u got it sorted, like i said, i start with the physical layer first, especially if I have been out of the room  for more than a few minutes - trust no-one and no-thing :)
[21:05] <Mimi> Yes you can linkmaster03
[21:05] <bicyclis1> Man that was a show today at that presentation
[21:05] <linkmaster03> Thank you
[21:05] <mistapapa> tigran: pardon
[21:05] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: very nice for testing clusters/load balancing/high availability etc...
[21:05] <suwro> Mimi: I had the same problem - change your repos - I had a broken repo - after that - no more problems.
[21:05] <dustybin> i havent found anything technologically amazing about ubuntu, maybe its just because people prefer to use newer packages rather than debians older stable packages
[21:05] <arbrandes> linkmaster03, yes, but you don't want to do that today.  It's too slow.
[21:05] <lch_> woho one package to download left :-)
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Marfi, expect all sorts of timouts and delays for a day or so
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <FloodBot2> gaara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <bicyclis1> bahadunn true, it helps a lot !
[21:05] <suwro> Mimi: except firefox3 which i hate it.
[21:06] <Marfi> Jack_Sparrow, thats what i was figuring. =)
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> dustybin, please take the discussion to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[21:06] <Stop_It> Yey, download finished, CD burned, wish me luck
[21:06] <bahadunn> I wonder if you can emulate arm cpus in virtualbox
[21:06] <Marfi> =0 FloodBot2 blocked Gaara of the sands?
[21:06] <bicyclis1> I am just burning copies of 8.04 in the moment for our next computer lecture at my departement. I will spread them among the listeners ;)
[21:06] <Mads-b> gord_slater: I thought I had it sorted, but when I have a LAN room with 12 switches and 3 routers things can get really messy really fast. That's why I made my homemade splitter too; I didn't have enough power outtakes ^^
[21:07] <bahadunn> there are tons of SDKs that could be useful for cause qemu is just too slow unfortunately
[21:07] <tigran> I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[21:07] <arbrandes> bicyclis1, heh, spread the word, brother! :)
[21:07] <bahadunn> I would not mind playing with that arm port of ubuntu
[21:07] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[21:07] <baske> anyone has experience of intel 4965 wireless card and ubuntu 8.04?
[21:07] <doktoreas> sorry, is the Intel Quad Core 32bit ?
[21:07] <mistapapa>  anyone knows if there is a way to get wlan manually up and down...?
[21:07] <doktoreas> for the iso to be used
[21:07] <Mimi> ...guys.... im using tasksel to install lamp server..... but instead its removing banshee, compiz-gnome, agave..... O.O Help!
[21:07] <mistapapa> o_O
[21:07] <KyleK> arm port of ubuntu? theres arm machines with VGA?
[21:07] <bahadunn> doktoreas: its 64bit
[21:07] <Fishscene> doktoreas, if it's core 2, then yes, it is 32-bit and 64-bit capable
[21:07] <bahadunn> doktoreas: you can tell with a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:08] <diggduggz> Hello, I'm wanting to do a fresh install of Ubuntu HH, how do I wipe the old ubuntu and do a clean install? will the Live CD give me this option? im about to burn it.
[21:08] <bicyclis1> Coolest thing today: A kid stood in my back talking to his friend like a real expert. Look, he is using vista, aint that cool. I was running the compiz cube.
[21:08] <mistapapa> shit this channel is completly overloaded
[21:08] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I found the kernel sourse for fglrx still there... removing that.  pruged and autocleaned...
[21:08] <tseug> my battery is at 36%.  the adapter is plugged in.  how can i fix my battery? it's been like this for over a week. the laptop shuts off sometimes when using dvd player. what could be wrong? this all began after i upgraded to gutsy.
[21:08] <bicyclis1> Just turned around and said, well, that is way beyond vista......
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[21:08] <doktoreas> ok thx
[21:08] <Fishscene> Is there a way to setup an Ubuntu overflow channel?
[21:08] <KyleK> diggduggz: tell it to format things?
[21:08] <daemon3> How do I install mac themes?
[21:08] <Aranel> Is "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is enough for updating ?
[21:08] <OllieA> I can't enable 1024x768 screen res because not in drop down box, how do I enable it!?
[21:08] <diggduggz> KyleK ..  things?
[21:08] <Folk_Theory> no use update manager
[21:08] <lch_> tseug: i dont know, but you could upgrade to hardy, as its out today :-)
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mistapapa, Please watch the language
[21:08] <arbrandes> Aranel, if you edited /etc/apt/sources.list, yes.
[21:08] <gord_slater> Mads-b: coming from an electronics background myself, the 1st stage in most troubleshooting involves "check supplies". This was a mains (230volt) splitter you had?
[21:09] <dubby> help someone i need java and gcj is not stable enough
[21:09] <Aranel> arbrandes: how can I edit it ? :) I don't edited.
[21:09] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: this won't give you the new version, just updates
[21:09] <Ayabara> is there an _easy_ way to share a folder using samba?
[21:09] <KyleK> diggduggz: like partitions that you want cleaned out, like / but not /home maybe
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> diggduggz, yes, select manual partitioning
[21:09] <livingdaylight> i'm adding wav files to /usr/share/sounds to change login sound. Yet when i hit 'test' i get no sound??
[21:09] <tseug> lch_, what? a new dist???
[21:09] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: you shouldn't perform the upgrade this way
[21:09] <dubby> i am trying to install the stuff from sun micro-systems but its not making a mozilla plugin
[21:09] <lch_> tseug: yes, see topic line of this channel :-)
[21:09] <Acoustyk> i know im the millionth person to ask but has 8.04 come out officially yet?
[21:09] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: how can I perform the upgrade ? can "sudo do-release-upgrade" do it ?
[21:09] <arbrandes> Aranel, you have to change all "gutsy" references to "hardy", basically.
[21:09] <Mimi> ..guys......guys.... im using tasksel to install lamp server..... but instead its removing banshee, compiz-gnome, agave, gnome-power-manager... notification-daemon........ O.O Help!
[21:09] <arbrandes> Acoustyk, yes
[21:09] <OllieA> Is anyone recieving these messages?
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[21:10] <Mimi> It just removed the network manager :-(  !!!
[21:10] <KyleK> Mimi: what does tasksel do?
[21:10] <arbrandes> Aranel, that is, if you're upgrading from Gutsy.
[21:10] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: yes, if you want to use the console, else use "update-manager --devel-release", but don't expect fast speeds today
[21:10] <steindani> Hi! I'd like to install Konica Minolta 2500W under Ubuntu 8.04. Can anyone help?
[21:10] <Starnestommy> Mimi: you may want to consider installing mysql, apache, and php separately
[21:10] <bpr> how do i tell which package owns a given file?
[21:10] <Mimi> KyleK: ... it allows you to install software packs... in my case  I was going to install web server and such... :(
[21:10] <Wyleyrabbit> faemir: Thanks for the tip on brasero. That app burned the CD perfectly!
[21:10] <Acoustyk> how do i upgrade to 8.04?
[21:10] <Trikd1> any way to revert to Firefox 2 in Hardy?
[21:11] <Phoop> !upgrade
[21:11] <Acoustyk> i did sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:11] <Starnestommy> Acoustyk: use the update manager
[21:11] <Mimi> Starnestommy: thanks but i guess its too late now... :(
[21:11] <gba> bpr, dpkg -S
[21:11] <lch_> bpr: i used packages.ubuntu.com for that task
[21:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:11] <consfearacy> is the latest ubuntu good?
[21:11] <guy_> hi all, anyone had problems with the CTRL key in Hardy? (ASUS V1J laptop here)
[21:11] <livingdaylight> i'm adding wav files to /usr/share/sounds to change login sound. Yet when i hit 'test' i get no sound??
[21:11] <faemir> Wyleyrabbit, no problem. Tis good app :D
[21:11] <Ashfire908> Acoustyk: dist-upgrade i think
[21:11] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: ok, I'm running update-manager --devel-release now, is it enough ?
[21:11] <Mimi> consfearacy:  yes, it's really really nice :)
[21:11] <Acoustyk> ah thanks
[21:11] <bpr> gba, lch_: thanks!
[21:11] <fliegenderfrosch> Acoustyk: its better to wait a few days, the servers are overheating anyway
[21:11] <Aranel> or Do I need additional commands ?
[21:11] <KyleK> Mimi: tasksel back to desktop :p
[21:11] <Acoustyk> ah k
[21:11] <Flare183> Acoustyk: nope
[21:11] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: there should appear a message about a new distro version available
[21:11] <KyleK> over hating servers :)
[21:11] <Wyleyrabbit> faemir: no kidding. In windows, I really like ImgBurn, but this appears a close second.
[21:12] <jonathan> Im having trouble using my scroll wheel. It works fine in windows, so I dont think its a hardware problem. Could someone help me?
[21:12] <Trikd1> Firefox 2 in Hardy?
[21:12] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: if not, you probably don't have the newest version of update-manager
[21:12] <hyjal> I'm hearing no sound from flash in hardy! I installed flash via "ubuntu restricted extras". It worked fine in gutsy. Any ideas?
[21:12] <Mimi> KyleK:  thanks for the reminder, i thought i was lost.... you're right :P Mmm.... i hope it doenst completely delete my wireless modules otherwise im poo'ed ;p
[21:12] <AtariMoe> I'm not sure how upgrading is for Hardy, but when I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy I had some minor quirks... you might want to reinstall from the disk if you can
[21:12] <dD0T> Is there something like a mrtg visualisation of the ubuntu mirror servers? Would be very interesting to see the current load ;-)
[21:12] <Flare183> !hardy
[21:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[21:12] <Jomatam> Catalist control center says   no ATI driver   where i can see what drivers I have and from where I can install them?
[21:12] <jpt9> hey.
[21:12] <jpt9> does Wubi work on Vista?
[21:12] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch:  In fact, I'm installing it now :)
[21:12] <Mimi> Jomatam:  is this for hardy?
[21:12] <KyleK> Mimi: reinstall it before you reboot :) it wont have deleted firmware or ndiswrapper drivers
[21:13] <Jomatam> yea
[21:13] <Aranel> I dont have a program named update-manager
[21:13] <Ashfire908> jpt9: from screenshots i've seen, yes.
[21:13] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: with acceptable download speeds?
[21:13] <jpt9> I've that there heard issues since Vista doesn't use boot.ini.
[21:13] <Mimi> .... neat.....! thanks for the awesome tip KyleK xD!
[21:13] <guy_> aranel: system > administration menu
[21:13] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: I'm installing update-manager , not new distro :) i dont know.
[21:13] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: but I'm running Kubuntu. Is it important ?
[21:13] <grindhold> my sound doesn'T work after the upgrade i had OSS before. may anyone help me?
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, read the wubi faq carefully including the warnings...
[21:13] <arbrandes> Aranel, download the torrent iso, burn it, put the cd in, and follow instructions.  It'll be much faster.
[21:13] <milly1234> any download speed is acceptable to me, as long as I can restart were I left off, torrents pretty nice for that
[21:13] <Mimi> lol i dont even have the gnome panel anymore... i suspect tasksel is gonna kill gnome real soon... this might be my last words...
[21:13] <Mimi> lol
[21:14] <milly1234> torrent was slower for me, but it can restart and stop at any time without problems
[21:14] <KyleK> hah
[21:14] <Fishscene> UBuntu 8.04 Torrents are out? I couldn't find the link for them
[21:14] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: have a look at !upgrade
[21:14] <Starnestommy> Fishscene: see the topic message
[21:14] <milly1234> Fishscene, in the topic
[21:14] <arbrandes> Fishscene, check the topic of the channel.
[21:14] <Fishscene> Starnestommy, thanks
[21:14] <Jomatam> for Ubuntu torrent  search Ubuntu releases
[21:15] <steindani> The repository is so slow, that I must wait up to 5 seconds to download anything.
[21:15] <steindani> Can I use an other rep.?
[21:15] <twistage> Anyone have problems with static noises in Exaile under Hardy?
[21:15] <XB23> guys whats it mean
[21:15] <XB23> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[21:15] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:15] <XB23> /etc/network/interfaces:2: misplaced option
[21:15] <arbrandes> All torrents: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[21:15] <Daniel^> when running quake1 and quake2 in ubuntu i have some keyboard problems, like some keys wont work, and if i bind them in game i get the error that they are unknow keys
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[21:15] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: I tried. But Its downloading only 400~ Meg file. same of the dist-upgrade .
[21:15] <Trikd1> anybody know how to get Firefox 2?
[21:15] <Jomatam> Were I can find what drivers I have and how I can het ati driver
[21:15] <steindani> http://drop.io/ubuntutorrent
[21:15] <Starnestommy> Trikd1: I think there's a firefox2 package
[21:16] <jconnolly> anyone else having problems downloading from us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[21:16] <jconnolly> 91.189.92.3
[21:16] <steindani> Trikd1: I could tell you... open private
[21:16] <lrp> hello everyone
[21:16] <lrp> i have a question
[21:16] <arbrandes> jconnolly, yes, it's completely swamped.
[21:16] <Starnestommy> jconnolly: It's being very slow for me
[21:16] <lrp> how can i connect to a remote mirror in ubuntu ?
[21:16] <Starnestommy> all four IPs on that hostname, even
[21:16] <fliegenderfrosch> Trikd1: i thought ff2 was installed by default, as firefox-2 or similar
[21:16] <milly1234> jconnolly, probably so many downloading it is near its limits
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> diggduggz, yes, select manual partitioningjcoextreemly busy, and I would expect them to be that way through the weekend
[21:16] <lrp> you know im totally new using ubunty and i dont know how is the structure  in sources.list
[21:16] <jconnolly> is there something new out today?
[21:16] <Starnestommy> fliegenderfrosch: the new release usues firefox 3 by default
[21:16] <lrp> any hand or howto doing that ?
[21:17] <Starnestommy> jconnolly: ubuntu 8.04
[21:17] <arbrandes> jconnolly, lol, yes, the new Ubuntu.
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jconnolly, extreemly busy, and I would expect them to be that way through the weekend
[21:17] <jconnolly> ohhh
[21:17] <Stop_It> (21:16:46) (jconnolly) is there something new out today? <--Yes, Ubuntu ver 8.04
[21:17] <cham_eleon> My IDE hdd is not recognized by the hardy kernel, with gutsy everything works fine. My sata devices are working fine, only one IDE hdd is not working... does anyone have an idea?
[21:17] <lch_> Jack_Sparrow: tries to answer many questions in one line ;-)
[21:17] <jconnolly> I have Hardy already
[21:17] <fliegenderfrosch> Starnestommy: i know, but I thought ff2 was installed as well
[21:17] <jconnolly> ;D
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[21:17] <dny> whats the command to chmod a folder(and all files/folders in it) to have all permissions to everyone?
[21:17] <arbrandes> jconnolly, hehehe
[21:17] <Stop_It> Sod
[21:17] <fliegenderfrosch> Starnestommy: i might be wrong though, i don't use hardy yet
[21:17] <js_> does the update manager hang for anyone else?
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> js_, yes
[21:17] <arbrandes> js_, yes, the servers are swamped.
[21:17] <js_> dny: you don't want to do that
[21:17] <jconnolly> js_ servers are swamped
[21:17] <js_> swamp swamp
[21:17] <arbrandes> It's all a big bog.
[21:17] <milly1234> dny, if you must chmod 777
[21:17] <dny> js_ well, then for root and myself :x
[21:17] <jordanjay29> I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6.
[21:17] <milly1234> dny, I don't advise it though
[21:17] <js_> i'll try tomorrow then
[21:17] <twistage> Is "purge" interchangeable with "remove"?
[21:17] <OllieA> Hi
[21:18] <Abd> ubuntu servers are overloaded with traffic
[21:18] <arbrandes> js_, try next week, or the torrents.
[21:18] <lch_> OllieA: nex time you ask if someone is seeing you, dont leave in the same second...
[21:18] <jpt9> what is the maximum file size on an NTFS partition?  Will a 5GB disk image even work for Wubi on an NTFS drive?
[21:18] <fliegenderfrosch> twistage: afaik purge also removes configs
[21:18] <Stop_It> Just doing the install within windows, i'm guessing I dont miss out on anything (Apart from Hibernate) by doing so? I can still install stuff on there etc?
[21:18] <Jomatam> hei  were I can see what drivers I have and where i can get ATI radeon 9250
[21:18] <Kcaj> Is it possible to have all the Windows machines in my imemdiate vicinity log on to and authenticate as Ubuntu users at start up?
[21:18] <dny> milly1234 whats the number for just root and myself?
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[21:18] <OllieA> I need to use the 1024x768 screen res but not in drop down box, how do I add it to box?
[21:18] <milly1234> dny, change the folders owner with chown to yourself
[21:18] <exploid> the torrents are slower then what I thought...
[21:18] <fliegenderfrosch> Jomatam: just use the restricted driver manager
[21:18] <bullium> has anyone else lost their number keypad since the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04? NumLock is on but my number keys do not work?
[21:18] <fserve> hi
[21:19] <milly1234> don't use the 777, its for everyone
[21:19] <dny> milly1234 well its the /var/www/ folder, so idk if it need sto have root as user or not
[21:19] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: check the config dialog, i think there is an option there
[21:19] <arbrandes> exploid, the desktop torrent is pretty fast.  the alternate is ok.  The DVD is kinda slow.
[21:19] <ere4si> !ati | Jomatam
[21:19] <ubotu> Jomatam: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:19] <Jomatam> I also have resolution problem
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, it will work..  but you would need to defrag as it needs continious space.. personally , I wont risk my windows ntfs for the sake of wubi
[21:19] <tigran> fliegenderfrosch:  I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[21:19] <Trikd1> Starnestommy: where would i find this package?
[21:19] <Assid> arbrandes: not many people seeding it thats why
[21:19] <Jomatam> yea ATI Radeon 9250
[21:19] <arbrandes> Assid, the DVD? yes, that's why.
[21:19] <exploid> arbrandes: Ièm downloading desktop
[21:19] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: config dialog?
[21:19] <Starnestommy> Trikd1: it should be in the package manager
[21:19] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: not sure where that is
[21:19] <wuxia> how does 8.04 desktop and server differ?
[21:19] <jpt9> Jack_Sparrow: why would it be risky?
[21:19] <timUR123> What do u think about debian Sid linux it seems much fasyer than ubuntu ??
[21:19] <john47> question: I dont have a separate "home" partition on my computer...will upgrading to hardy heron from gutsy wipe out the files in my home folder??
[21:19] <arbrandes> exploid, desktop comes at over 300kbps, here.
[21:19] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: the keyboard config dialog in ubuntu
[21:19] <Kcaj> Jack_Sparrow
[21:19] <Assid> if peoople started seeding that.. would be fun
[21:19] <OllieA> I need to use the 1024x768 screen res but not in drop down box, how do I add it to box?
[21:19] <[tla]> Hi.  Anyone have a working vmware-tools source / patches for Hardy / 8.0?
[21:19] <evand> jpt9: Yes, it will work fine.  NTFS max file size is 16 EiB
[21:19] <Kcaj> For anybody else interestedmy problem earlier
[21:19] <Fishscene> wuxia, server is geared more for "server" roles.
[21:19] <exploid> arbrandes: 50 :s
[21:19] <Kcaj> Was caused by changing the host name
[21:20] <nownot> just got 8.04 and when i do sudo apt-get install perlmagick i get couldnt find package perlmagick
[21:20] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: could be the mouse config dialog, i haven't tried it myself
[21:20] <Kcaj> After changing the host name you have to log back in
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, read the wubi faq
[21:20] <Kcaj> or else the GUI is virtually broken
[21:20] <wuxia> Fishscene: yes, is there a online list of the actual differences?
[21:20] <Jomatam> I so that howto.   It is not for hardy and i didn't understood how to use it
[21:20] <arbrandes> Assid, yes, because then we could use the DVD to upgrade, instead of the bogged servers.
[21:20] <Trikd1> Starnestommy: would i need to add anything to have it appear there? all im seeing is firefox 3
[21:20] <lch_> john47: no, just use the update manager to upgrade
[21:20] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: there should be a checkbox where the numpad can be enabled/disabled
[21:20] <john47> lch_: whew, many thanks....I was worried....
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > timUR123
[21:20] <bad_cables> what is the chan for ubustu/
[21:20] <bad_cables> ?
[21:20] <Starnestommy> Trikd1: it might have a different name, but I am pretty sure that it's in the repositores
[21:20] <nownot> ? anyone 8.04 with perlmagick?
[21:20] <timUR123> Jack_Sparrow,  what ?
[21:20] <gaurav__> hi, i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 beta, ever since i upgraded i had a bug where the gdm login would not load, however the orange background and mouse cursor would load but it never gets to the login prompt... i have now upgraded fully to 8.04 and the bug is still there, i get no gdm login window... anyone have any ideas?
[21:20] <Starnestommy> *repositories
[21:21] <arbrandes> bad_cables, ubustu? this is ubuntu ;)
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> timUR123, you are offtopic
[21:21] <lrp> you know im totally new using ubunty and i dont know how is the structure  in sources.list i need a hand doing this
[21:21] <Theo_> In CLI: How do I combine two text files?
[21:21] <jpt9> Jack_Sparrow: I did.  But don't you have the same risk of filesystem corruption regardless of OS if you kill the power without properly shutting down?
[21:21] <OllieA> I need to use the 1024x768 screen res but not in drop down box, how do I add it to box?
[21:21] <bad_cables> ubuntu studio with the rt kernel
[21:21] <bad_cables> for music
[21:21] <wx9j> 4 failed installs of Ubuntu, one of Debian, all stall at "scanning Mirrors" at 40% ..... any clues ?????
[21:21] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: any idea why that would change on the upgrade? I've got a few other weird issues like this as well...
[21:21] <kestaz> so how hardy ?
[21:21] <ere4si> !res > OllieA
[21:21] <lch_> john47: im upgrading that way right now, hope i'm right ;-) (well it used to work for previous dist upgrades. pyckup your precious data anyway)
[21:21] <arbrandes> wx9j, servers are swamped.
[21:21] <Kcaj> wx9j: Fate
[21:21] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: no idea, i just heard someone else had the same issue
[21:21] <jordanjay29> I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6. I've thus had little luck converting the info in the .pcf file to the VPN config utility. The pcf has encryption keys, which I'm not sure what to do with.
[21:21] <hanasakiRemote> what do I run to do the update to the release that just came out
[21:21] <Fishscene> Wuxia, Server: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition ,  Desktop: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[21:21] <vlad> hi people im havng a problem trying to download packages from add/remove programs when it begins to download it doesnt show any progress
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, I wont use it.. feel free to do so...
[21:22] <arbrandes> vlad, servers are swamped.
[21:22] <vlad> :O
[21:22] <vlad> as i thought
[21:22] <vlad> :D
[21:22] <wx9j> arbrandes, does that happen often ? never seen it before.
[21:22] <OllieA> ere4si: I hav looked at that and it doesn't work
[21:22] <lch_> vlad:  ubuntu release day, servers are sloooow..
[21:22] <nownot> how do i fix ubuntu couldn't find package
[21:22] <vlad> yeah
[21:22] <andycaas1> Why doesnt emerald keep the titlebar after i try to exit terminal (its running emerald --replace)
[21:22] <vlad> i thught that
[21:22] <arbrandes> wx9j, no today is the release of the new ubuntu.
[21:22] <john47> lch_: oh, ok, I thought you knew for sure...Has anyone else upgraded via the update manager without damaging data files in the home folder???
[21:22] <NeT_DeMoN> in synaptics, what do i need to search for to get my x.org binarys for my ATI graphics card?
[21:22] <vlad> ill wait then
[21:22] <tigran> Is there a nvidia-glx-new package in 8.04
[21:22] <vlad> thx
[21:22] <jordanjay29> Anybody for helping on Cisco VPN client?
[21:22] <jpt9> if it's so risky, why did they include it?  It seems silly to have a tool that makes it easy for beginners/Linux noobs to try Ubuntu, but that has a horrible risk of wreaking havoc on the user's data...
[21:22] <ere4si> OllieA: have you installed the drivers for your vid card?
[21:22] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: at least I'm not the only one...does emerld manager not control themes anymore? it will not change my them now?
[21:22] <Starnestommy> arbrandes: try emerald --replace & disown
[21:22] <AtariMoe> wx9j: you're trying to upgrade, not fresh install, correct?
[21:22] <Assid> okay this isnt stable
[21:22] <fliegenderfrosch> NeT_DeMoN: use the restricted manager
[21:22] <Assid> its still hanging for me
[21:22] <OllieA> ere4si: Dunno :P
[21:23] <rinaldi_> tigran: yes there is
[21:23] <wx9j> arbrandes, now I feel lke a tool. thanks
[21:23] <[T]-Rex> yo
[21:23] <nownot> how do i fix ubuntu couldn't find package
[21:23] <arbrandes> wx9j, heh, we all do ;)
[21:23] <Assid> hellp :!:(
[21:23] <ere4si> OllieA: what's the card?
[21:23] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: emerald manager never controlled themes, only window decorations
[21:23] <tigran> rinaldi_: Umm E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[21:23] <OllieA> ere4si: No idea :P
[21:23] <NeT_DeMoN> fliegenderfrosch: ok
[21:23] <tigran> rinaldi_: same for new
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, the risk is minimal, but I wont use it...  I was against them including it
[21:23] <KyleK> how do I simplify the firefox 3 auto complete?
[21:23] <lch_> john47: i'm sure, i would not do the upgrade that way else..
[21:23] <jpt9> Jack_Sparrow: oh.
[21:23] <the_darkside_986> everyone else having the same Nvidia problem?
[21:23] <jordanjay29> I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6. I've thus had little luck converting the info in the .pcf file to the VPN config utility. The pcf has encryption keys, which I'm not sure what to do with.
[21:23] <wx9j> AtariMoe, No was showing a MCSE how easy to install over windows this was :)
[21:23]  * [T]-Rex finally has ubuntu installed! :)
[21:23] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: opps wrong words...it isn't changing my decorations after the upgrade
[21:23] <rbs-tito> KyleK: What do you mean?
[21:24] <ere4si> OllieA: open a terminal and type    lspci | grep vga   that will tell you
[21:24] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: is emerald running?
[21:24] <exploid> someone should set the topic to something including the packages are slow
[21:24] <Jomatam> On hardy heron I cant find in resolution settings 1280x1024, i can't find how to change my monitor, set up video card or it's driver. using comand... xorg resolutions did not appeared. And that How to for graphic cards was not very useful. HELP
[21:24] <Daliuso> Hello. I am trying to get my wireless internet card (Broadcom BCM43XG) working. When I type "sudo lshw -C network", it gives my on-board ethernet and it also shows my wireless which is listed as "UNCLAIMED"... any tips on how to get this working?
[21:24] <arbrandes> exploid, agreed.
[21:24] <bullium> let me check my session
[21:24] <rbs-tito> !broadcom | Daliuso
[21:24] <john47> lch_: ok...i will backup my files before I attempt to upgrade to hardy just to be 100 percent sure...
[21:24] <andycaas1> Why doesnt emerald keep the titlebar after i try to exit terminal (its running emerald --replace)
[21:24] <the_darkside_986> I just installed Ubuntu Hardy--clean install--and everything is dreadfully laggy and slow and I can't get Nvidia restricted to be enabled. The box is checked but it says it is not in use no matter what.
[21:24] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: let me check my session
[21:24] <Assid> okay pidgin irc plugin slows down my machine :(
[21:24] <KyleK> well if I type a letter like C instead of getting sites that begin with C I get like .com matches
[21:24] <Daliuso> Thanks rbs-tito
[21:24] <Daliuso> !broadcom
[21:24] <jordanjay29> !broadcom
[21:24] <AtariMoe> wx9j: i see... i was going to suggest the alternate install cd if you were fresh-installing; i had problems with the xubuntu live cd on some old hardware that the alternate CD worked with
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> why doesn't "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" give as many options anymore in hardy? Where do I go to choose vidoe driver, resolution, etc?
[21:24] <nickt> is there a reason why a restricted driver would have been included last version but not 8.04
[21:24] <rbs-tito> Daliuso: Sorry, I thought that worked
[21:24] <exploid> arbrandes: and if the topic should be smaller use the link http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[21:24] <rinaldi_> tigran: have you tried in synaptic? also apt-get update?
[21:24] <rbs-tito> Daliuso: I'll find it for you
[21:24] <OllieA> Hello?
[21:25] <Daliuso> lol its okay
[21:25] <Daliuso> thank you
[21:25] <Marfi> the_darkside_986, enable the extra repositories, then install nvidia-glx-new  ;)
[21:25] <jordanjay29> Anybody for helping on Cisco VPN client?
[21:25] <the_darkside_986> oh ok
[21:25] <KyleK> rbs-tito: i like the old auto complete better :)
[21:25] <arbrandes> exploid, problem is, I don't know who the ops are. :)
[21:25] <testname> hi
[21:25] <wx9j> AtariMoe, I always use the alt disc, today I tired both, both died same place, also the debian
[21:25] <ubotu> Daliuso: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[21:25] <Jomatam> give as many options anymore in hardy? Where do I go to choose vidoe driver, resolution, etc?
[21:25] <rbs-tito> Daliuso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx
[21:25] <john47> wow, it seems like lots of folks are having issues with hardy...maybe I should wait to upgrade.
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[21:25] <exploid> arbrandes: yeah itès a big problem I guess :P
[21:25] <andry> jordanjay29: what is the problem with cisco vpn?
[21:25] <gord_slater> imagine, just imagine,  a perfect world where each ISP would transparently mirror the ISO file for a week after release...................
[21:25] <zilche> [pulse-audio help] My multimedia keys/gnome-volume-control isn't allowing me to vary the volume, while I can on pulse-audio's volume control, any help?
[21:25] <tigran> rinaldi_: Oops heh, right, it was timing out so I didnt do it, and I forgot.
[21:25] <rbs-tito> KyleK: What's the difference?
[21:25] <wx9j> AtariMoe, its a gate$ plot
[21:25]  * [T]-Rex anyone using irssi
[21:26] <DooMRunneR> hi
[21:26] <testname> does the update-manager automatically restart my system or do i haven't to worry about that?
[21:26] <arbrandes> gord_slater, heh, that's why there are torrents ;)
[21:26] <rbs-tito> KyleK: I see what you mean, it took some getting used to
[21:26] <nownot> how do i fix ubuntu couldn't find package
[21:26] <OllieA> ere4si: How do I find out my card?
[21:26] <rinaldi_> tigran: same. I had to do it a couple of times
[21:26] <Daliuso> Thanks guys
[21:26] <Odd-rationale> testname: it will not restart until you say so
[21:26] <tigran> rinaldi_: Its working now tho, I'll try to install the driver once its done
[21:26] <jimcooncat> gord_slater: apt-cacher too
[21:26] <fliegenderfrosch> nownot: what exactly do you mean?
[21:26] <Marfi> OllieA, lspci
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, the servers are swamped... just wait..
[21:26] <jordanjay29> andry: I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6. I've thus had little luck converting the info in the .pcf file to the VPN config utility. The pcf has encryption keys, which I'm not sure what to do with.
[21:26] <testname> Odd-rationale, thanks
[21:26] <the_darkside_986> I've got all the repos enabled but I can't find any "nvidia-glx-new" or anything with "nvidia-glx"
[21:26] <tigran> rinaldi_: I had release days, so crazy
[21:26] <tigran> rinaldi_: hate*
[21:26] <jocke> Hmm, is the new release of gobuntu released now?
[21:26] <DooMRunneR> i have a linksys wusb54g ubs wifi card, anyone an idea how to set up this thing under hardy?
[21:26] <gord_slater> arbrandes: mines choked at about 3kb/s upload right now by  the ISP
[21:26] <rbs-tito> KyleK: Short of using FF2 I can't see what you can do
[21:26] <ere4si> OllieA: open a terminal - type   lspci | grep vga   - that will tell you
[21:26] <KyleK> :(
[21:27] <lch_> john47: consider that those with problems tend to speak up while the others where everything works are not even here ;-) but waiting a day or tow will also help for a faster download as the servers are overloaded right now
[21:27] <arbrandes> gord_slater, oh, yeah, there's THAT problem too :)
[21:27] <mh166|smith> hi everybody
[21:27] <breiti> hi mh166|smith
[21:27] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: it doesn't look as if it was...why would that have changed...sorry for so many questions...seems like a lot of simple stuff is breaking...I've done at least to other upgrades (not on this machine) and haven't had any issues before...Have their been a lot of issues with upgrades?
[21:27] <AtariMoe> wx9j: oh... i don't have anymore to suggest on that then... a gate$ plot plausible enough
[21:27] <Cpudan80> Does anyone else get a scrollkeeper error when upgrading to Hardy?
[21:27] <Cpudan80> It says .... blackjack.xml:402 parser error : .... ?
[21:27] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: I started emerald and it runs, but why would it have been disabled on the upgrade?
[21:27] <antonsky> join #ubuntu-de
[21:27] <gord_slater> arbrandes: its because of everyone sharing the latest holywood blockbuster "Hardy Heron does Global"
[21:27] <the_darkside_986> I get this: Package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:27] <Greyhound-> where is the restricted drivers manager in 8.04? I can't find it
[21:28] <arbrandes> gord_slater, hehehehe, sounds about right :)
[21:28] <andry> jordanjay29: import never worked for me. the inly way it worked to recreate vpn config in network manager applet
[21:28] <john47> lch_: Sounds good....I already downloaded an ISO of hardy this morning as soon as it went live, and it was fast.  Now that everyone is home from work and doing upgrades, I'm sure the servers are bogged down.
[21:28] <jlewis2979> Hi guy. Here's my problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu 8 on my vista ultimate laptop. I've downloaded the iso image and burnt it to a dvd using ashampoo. I then used disk management to resise my windows partition which created 35 gigabites of unallocated space. I then reset my computer with the dvd in. The setup menu loads but when i try to choose install or the "try before you install" option the ubuntu logo/load screen comes 
[21:28] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: not all upgrade issues are found in testing and can be fixed
[21:28] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: I understand that :)
[21:28] <bicyclis1> gord_slater: For sure a movie i can highly recommend ;)
[21:28] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: System > admin > hardware drivers
[21:28] <Ayabara> I'm trying to share files in samba, but can't see anything on my windows pc. how can I verify that my ubuntu is actually sharing the files?
[21:28] <livingdaylight> i needz help changing login sound
[21:28] <Greyhound-> but there's nothing there rbs-tito
[21:28]  * [T]-Rex yo
[21:28] <jordanjay29> andry: I tried that. I'm certain there are values missing, since my Uni's pcf file includes encryption keys. I'm not certain where the input for those are.
[21:28] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: in the login manager config afaik
[21:28] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: It isn't called restricted anymore, it's called hardware
[21:28] <StuckMojo> hey is the mirror list mirrored anywhere?
[21:28] <lch_> john47: when you already have the CD you can boot it live to check if it works well on your PC before upgrading the installed system :-)
[21:28] <Jomatam> Ok  as I understan no one knows how to set up resolutions in Hardy what are not listed. And I even can't tell what dirivers I have and what i haven't.
[21:28] <danbhfive> Ayabara: try this site: http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> How do I choose my video drivers, resolution, etc? I looked in the xorg file. I don't understand "Configured Video Device"... :?
[21:29] <rinaldi_> the_darkside_986: make sure when you do "sudo apt-get update" you don't time out. I had that a couple of times. the servers are slow
[21:29] <Greyhound-> I want to enable a driver for my nvidia mx440
[21:29] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:29] <livingdaylight> i added wav file to usr/share/sounds/ but when i test it don't work
[21:29] <compaqr4000> It seems like my grub did not get updated along with 8.04, any ideas why and how to fix that?
[21:29] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, lol, isn't that ironic?
[21:29] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I'm back.. and there seems to be no change.  glxinfo still returns the same error
[21:29] <nickt> greyhound-: let me know what you doing as I think i have that prob too - i have wireless restricted driver i need
[21:29] <StuckMojo> i'm just trying to do an apt-get upgrade and it's toast cus of all the iso downloaders
[21:29] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: hehe
[21:29] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, yup, same here
[21:29] <Jomatam> the same problem     How do I choose my video drivers, resolution, etc? I looked in the xorg file. I don't understand "Configured Video Device"... :?
[21:29] <jordanjay29> StuckMojo: servers are swamped, try again tomorrow
[21:29] <StuckMojo> can't get to the damn mirror list either
[21:29] <Greyhound-> nickt: I'm trying to enable a driver for my gfx card
[21:30] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Do you have administrator priveleges? Check in your user account and the new priveleges manager
[21:30] <john47> lch_: now, there's a fine idea!  I'm actually going to try to do the wubi install on my HP laptop.  I tried to install gutsy on it with disastrous results before (ie, had to reinstall windows, ie wipe the HD...my IT dept was not very happy with me! lol)
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Jomatam, the new xorg is entirely different.. not sure how it all works myself yet
[21:30] <the_darkside_986> argh update is stuck at 87% at archive.ubuntu.com. why can't everyone just use torrents or alternative mirrors :(
[21:30] <Greyhound-> rbs-tito,  where's that?
[21:30] <arj> why arent you :)
[21:30] <Fa> i use torrents
[21:30] <fliegenderfrosch> Jack_Sparrow: a lot more is autoconfigured now
[21:30] <Fa> i'm seeding now :P
[21:30] <gaurav__> hi, i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 beta, ever since i upgraded i had a bug where the gdm login would not load, however the orange background and mouse cursor would load but it never gets to the login prompt... i have now upgraded fully to 8.04 and the bug is still there, i get no gdm login window... anyone have any ideas? i think this is related to bug 210538
[21:30] <arbrandes> the_darkside_986, i wish more people used the DVD torrent, so then we could all upgrade without using the servers.
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> fliegenderfrosch, I got that much thanks
[21:30] <nickt> greyhound-: how do you add a driver - its a pain being wireless i cant play and chat as obviously cant get on net :(  will find info and reboot and try again
[21:30] <danbhfive> StuckMojo: use a torrent, and get the alternate cd, I think that would work
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[21:31] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: System > admin > authorisations
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fliegenderfrosch, and you can still force your config using the xorg.conf
[21:31] <fr500> hmmm
[21:31] <andry> Jomatam: there is screen and graphics utility in system->administration. if it's not there install one
[21:31] <StuckMojo> danbhfive: no i'm already running hardy
[21:31] <fr500> framebuffer console doesnt work
[21:31] <john47> has anyone tried the wubi install on hardy?
[21:31] <StuckMojo> danbhfive: i just want to mod my sources.list so i can get updates
[21:31] <[BT]JaC> how can i set colors in terminal
[21:31] <MikeCulver> When libGL tries to load my r300_dri.so, i get an error about an unresolved symbol.  DRI and compiz will not work.
[21:31] <fliegenderfrosch> Jack_Sparrow: but i hope xorg.conf-editing will die out soon :)
[21:31] <arbrandes> StuckMojo your best bet for the weekend is the DVD torrent.
[21:32] <[BT]JaC> how can i set colors in terminal?
[21:32] <Jomatam> How it is called    that screen and graphic utility
[21:32] <tcpdumpgod> hmm, what happened to #ubuntu+1 ?
[21:32] <xtf> Hey everyone!
[21:32] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: i'm already running hardy
[21:32] <fliegenderfrosch> john47: how do you mean "on hardy"?
[21:32] <djm62> Can anyone update the UbuntuHashes page on the wiki to include Hardy?
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fliegenderfrosch, there will always be a need for some way to manually configure odd hrdware
[21:32] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, I see, Sir Luke
[21:32] <tcpdumpgod> hi xtf
[21:32] <westherm> will fixes that worked in gutsy work on hardy
[21:32] <livingdaylight> fliegenderfrosch, interessant.... ich hätte gedacht das System>Preference>Sound dafür war_
[21:32] <SchighSchagh> how do I disconnect a USB device (ie: unload the device driver) without physically unplugging the device?
[21:32] <Seveas> westherm, depends on the fix
[21:32] <fliegenderfrosch> Jack_Sparrow: but at least one can use a projector now without editing this file
[21:32] <djm62> And also, can anyone point me to the md5 sums of the current release?
[21:32] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: i just want to be able to apt-get upgrade to get updates
[21:32] <xtf> Wat u doing tcpdumpgod?
[21:32] <westherm> i had to fix soundcards on a dell laptop
[21:32] <[BT]JaC> Seveas how can i set colors in terminal?
[21:33] <jordanjay29> andry: I'm normally asked for my username and password for VPN. In ubuntu, I'm asked for my password and group password. I think the group pass is the encryption key, but I'm unsure what password would be, then. I don't think it'll log me in with only my username or just my password
[21:33] <tim__b> djm62, do you need the file hashes?
[21:33] <jamiehale> Anyone else get Errno 5 on install?
[21:33] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, yeah, in that case, I suggest waiting a couple of days.
[21:33] <xda> is xorg suid?
[21:33] <StuckMojo> yeahhh yeah yeah
[21:33] <[BT]JaC> arbrandes how can i set colors in terminal?
[21:33] <djm62> tim__b: I downloaded from an extremely unverified source (no choice) so it would be nice
[21:33] <tcpdumpgod> nadda xtf... trying to find "#ubuntu+1"
[21:33] <Seveas> [BT]JaC, edit -> current profile (->) colors
[21:33] <john47> fliegenderfrosch: I mean has anyone used the hardy disk to install Ubuntu 8.04 within windows and dualbooted using the wubi install method...Flying frog - cool name!
[21:33] <SchighSchagh> how do I disconnect a USB device (ie: unload the device driver) without physically unplugging the device?\
[21:33] <pmasters_genie> help just upgraded to 8.04 and my wireless card no longer works :-(
[21:33] <[BT]JaC> Seveas - server edition
[21:33] <StuckMojo> maybe i'll use the wayback machine to find the mirrors page ;)
[21:33] <the_darkside_986> when's us.archive.ubuntu.com going to start working? am I going to be stuck in a broken nvidia state for the remainder of the week?
[21:33] <[BT]JaC> Seveas no desktop
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[21:33] <xtf> oh... im so board
[21:33] <Jomatam> Got that   must wait cuple days for experts to get used to hardy
[21:33] <rinaldi_> SchighSchagh: right click on the device and click "unmount"
[21:33] <Theo_> In CLI: how do I combine text files
[21:33] <tcpdumpgod> What the hell does "#ubuntu+1 #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel" mean guys?
[21:34] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:34] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, lol, that's actually not a bad idea
[21:34] <tim__b> djm62, get the hardymd5.txt from http://tinyurl.com/6avfwz it's a copy of the offical md5s
[21:34] <GNUtoo> hello, gnash is broken on ubuntu(doesn't play youtube videos) but the same version 0.8.2 works fine on gentoo...is it because ubuntu's gnash is compiled with gstreamer and i compiled the gentoo version with ffmpeg?
[21:34] <wild_oscar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765426
[21:34]  * StuckMojo tries it
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> john47: i thought you meant installing ubuntu within ubuntu with wubi (maybe thats possible with wine? :) )
[21:34] <GNUtoo> it's on ubuntu hardy
[21:34] <djm62> tim__b: and also I noticed that the official page was un-updated so I thought I'd do the responsible thing...
[21:34] <Theo_> In CLI: how do I combine text files and remove duplicates?
[21:34] <Macpower|afk> moin
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> tcpdumpgod, + 1 no longer exists
[21:34] <Macpower|afk> hi
[21:34] <Seveas> [BT]JaC, you need escape codes then. read a bash tutorial :)
[21:34] <mh166|smith> hi Macpower|afk ^^
[21:34] <Greyhound-> rbs-tito, what exactly should I grant myself access too? there's nothing speicifically related to drivers...
[21:34] <arbrandes> Theo_: cat file1 file2 > combined_file
[21:34] <wild_oscar> if someone knows why this happens: Network IP's only available after /etc/init.d/networking restart...
[21:34] <tcpdumpgod> Jack_Sparrow, hmm... where would I go to discuss Hardy issues?
[21:34] <[BT]JaC> Seveas escape codes?
[21:34] <Theo_> will that remove duplicates?
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: here
[21:34] <gord_slater> tcpdumpgod: the ubuntu+1 was for pre-release 8.04, now it released it forwards here
[21:34] <Teknoenie> hi all
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: hardy is released now
[21:34] <djm62> tim__b: thanks, I'll take two uncorrelated unreliable sources to more-or-less be reliable ;-)
[21:35] <arbrandes> Theo_, duplicate what? lines? no
[21:35] <john47> fliegenderfrosh: yikes, no, I wouldn't do that.  No, I wanted to know if someone had successfully installed hardy within windows and what they thought of the process and result (in terms of speed, disk access, etc.)
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tcpdumpgod, THis is the support room for hardy, discussions go to ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <xtf> Does enyone know how to setup a Primergy 600? this thing wont work?
[21:35] <westherm> is it recommended to stay with gutsy until a lot of the wrinkles have been ironed out
[21:35] <Teknoenie> how can I tell Ubuntu 8.04 to start NIS before NFS
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: so its no longer ubuntu+1
[21:35] <Theo_> how can i remove duplicate words
[21:35] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: http://web.archive.org/web/20070702220402/www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> oooh gord_slater ! I dint know Hardy was released.
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> When did that happen
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> yesterday/today?
[21:35] <Fishscene> Today
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> today
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> now
[21:35] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Come to think of it, it shouldn't make a difference if you are using sudo. Is there much missing from your admin menu?
[21:35] <gord_slater> today
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Sweet!
[21:35] <OppTupacShakur> na Macpower|afk nu frag mal los :P
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Should I change my sources.list for the release?
[21:35] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, hehehe, cool
[21:35] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:35] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tcpdumpgod, updates and upgrades will be dead slow...
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Or just leave "hardy" in there?
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Yeah, I can imagine.
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: leave it
[21:36] <SchighSchagh> rinaldi_ I'm trying to connect my iPhone to a VMware guest OS (WinXP). my host OS is gutsy (naturally). the iPhone isn't mounted anywhere, but VMware can't connect it
[21:36] <tcpdumpgod> okay fliegenderfrosch !
[21:36] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Try running "gksu -D /usr/share/applications/jockey-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/jockey-gtk"
[21:36] <gord_slater> u mean u didnt notice 1700 ppl in  a channel and thought "what?"
[21:36] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: after a normal upgrade you have the final hard
[21:36] <Greyhound-> well I don't really know what should be tehre.. I'm on the livecd
[21:36] <tcpdumpgod> word!
[21:36] <erle-> how often does ubuntu check for updates?
[21:36] <somethingunique> what are the most common problems people are having with hardy so far?
[21:36] <fliegenderfrosch> erle-: is configurable, daily per default
[21:36] <mrkeishii> dang I'm downloading the torrent fast
[21:36] <dressing> Vmware Server fails to complile under 8.04. has anyone managed it?
[21:36] <arbrandes> Awwwwwww, I got up to 60 kbps for about 2 seconds, and then it fell back to 20.
[21:36] <breiti> OppTupacShakur, mh166|smith, Macpower|afk
[21:36] <breiti> :P
[21:36] <denny> every time I read the name, I think of the Hardy Brothers books
[21:36] <jordanjay29> somethingunique: just listen in here for a while and you'll pick them up
[21:36] <denny> or Hardy Boys, whatever it was
[21:36] <Fishscene> dressing, that's probably a question for #vmware
[21:37] <Greyhound-> rbs-tito, ran that and it's still empty...
[21:37] <jordanjay29> Hardy Boys, denny
[21:37] <somethingunique> can't listen... at work... installing as soon as i get home
[21:37] <arbrandes> denny, or Laurel and Hardy
[21:37] <[BT]JaC> can someone give me a list of sources that should be in sources.list please?
[21:37] <rinaldi_> SchighSchagh:  you would have to ask someone else about vmware. not my area
[21:37] <gord_slater> somethingunique: mainly low resolutions i think
[21:37] <arbrandes> denny, Google also thinks of those first. :)
[21:37] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:37] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:37] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:37] <Fishscene> denny, a fan of that book series? I used to read them all the time back in the day :)
[21:37] <FloodBot2> mh166|smith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:37] <stalker314314> if I had --devel-release, how to switch to 'normal'? (you're probably hearing this 100th time this day) (can't find it anywhere in ubuntu site)
[21:37] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: why don't you just use the sources config dialog?
[21:37] <denny> read them a lot when I was young, yeah
[21:37] <somethingunique> k
[21:37] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Try making another user with administrator access, and see if it works from that account
[21:37] <[BT]JaC> fliegenderfrosch no idea how
[21:37] <milly1234> moving around 120 - 160 KiB/s about here
[21:38] <SchighSchagh> rinaldi_ oh well, thanks anyway. is there a VMware channel or something by any chance?
[21:38] <saywatmang> what does the LTS stand for in 8.04 ?
[21:38] <somethingunique> doesn't sound too bad... is it specific to a chipset maker?  ATI Nvidia Intel?  or across the board?
[21:38] <Starnestommy> saywatmang: Long Term Support
[21:38] <xfa> i want to install gtk2 themes, but i can't find the system/settings/themes tool, got an idea?
[21:38] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: system>system administration> sources (or similar)
[21:38] <arbrandes> saywatmang, Long Term Support
[21:38] <SchighSchagh> this chat is awefully loud...
[21:38] <MEtaLpREs> long term support
[21:38] <kestaz> how to install ubuntu on ipod shuffle ?
[21:38] <stalker314314> LTS - long term support
[21:38] <rinaldi_> SchighSchagh: #vmware i think
[21:38] <[BT]JaC> fliegenderfrosch server not desktop
[21:38] <jordanjay29> loud? It's absolutely silent
[21:38] <jordanjay29> :P
[21:38] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: ah, sorry
[21:38] <[BT]JaC> np
[21:38] <graft> hey, is there any written word on why FFb5 is the one used in hardy?
[21:38] <moparisthebest> is there an alternative for us.archive.org? I keep timing out
[21:38] <somethingunique> kestaz: gtkpod
[21:38] <jordanjay29> FF2 will be outdated by June, graft
[21:38] <Teknoenie> how can I tell Ubuntu 8.04 to start NIS before NFS
[21:38] <arbrandes> graft because it's there. :)
[21:38] <[BT]JaC> fliegenderfrosch could you pm me your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[21:38] <saywatmang> why put long term support on the name ?
[21:38] <DooMRunneR> ls
[21:39] <moparisthebest> is there an alternative for us.archive.ubuntu.com? I keep timing out
[21:39] <Fishscene> moparisthebest, have you tried torrents?
[21:39] <graft> jordanjay29: outdated in what way?
[21:39] <jordanjay29> graft: June is the release of FF3
[21:39] <MEtaLpREs> well in the few hours ive been using it i can definitely see a noticeable speed increase in hardy, everything just seems to be a lot snappier
[21:39] <arbrandes> saywatmang, because it's got long term support (longer than average)
[21:39] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: I'm still using feisty
[21:39] <moparisthebest> Fishscene: im just trying to upgrade a few packages
[21:39] <saywatmang> ic
[21:39] <[BT]JaC> ah ok
[21:39] <Starnestommy> saywatmang: because it's supported for 3 years on desktops and 5 years on servers, while regular releases are only for 18 months
[21:39] <saywatmang> gotcah
[21:39] <graft> jordanjay29: the scheduled release... but you're still putting a beta browser in your release, right?
[21:39] <jordanjay29> graft: thus making it more suitable for an LTS edition
[21:39] <[BT]JaC> does anyone have the gutsy sources.list please
[21:39] <Fishscene> moparisthebest, sorry, I misunderstood your question
[21:39] <Scunizi> how do you get back to a Job that you've stopped in terminal?
[21:39] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: gutsy? not hardy?
[21:39] <jamiehale> Anyone get I/O errors part way through install?
[21:40] <arbrandes> Scunizi, type "fg"
[21:40] <[BT]JaC> flie Sec
[21:40] <stalker314314> if I had --devel-release, how to switch to 'normal'? (you're probably hearing this 100th time this day) (can't find it anywhere in ubuntu site)
[21:40] <llAMYll> If you have the beta version of 8.04 are there no-updates to become 8.04? i didn't see any updates today =(
[21:40] <MikeCulver> jamiehale: I've gotten those from a bad burn.  Try burning slower
[21:40] <graft> jordanjay29: um, so will the release be updated in june, or will the final firefox version just be in backports?
[21:40] <[BT]JaC> fliegenderfrosch how can i see which version it is
[21:40] <Scunizi> arbrandes: do I need the job number someplace?
[21:40] <livingdaylight> does Hardy have desktop applet AND Tracker Search Tool? by default?
[21:40] <jordanjay29> graft: It's supposed to be supported for, as Starnestommy just said, 3 years on desktops and 5 on servers. Firefox 2 won't be supported that long, most likely. Firefox 3 has a better chance of being supported for 3 years.
[21:40] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[21:40] <livingdaylight> or did upgrade simply not remove the old one?
[21:40] <jordanjay29> graft: when FF3 is out, you'll be notified through Firefox
[21:40] <arbrandes> Scunizi, not if it's the only job you stopped.
[21:40] <rbs-tito> jordanjay29: No. The mozilla team are confident that it is stable and we will merge all critical and security updates into the released beta as the year progresses.
[21:40] <arbrandes> Scunizi, I assume you stopped it with CTRL-Z.
[21:40] <fliegenderfrosch> [BT]JaC: lsb_release -a
[21:41] <Scunizi> arbrandes: yes.. i think
[21:41] <graft> jordanjay29: that's not my question... my question is, will hardy be updated, or will it jus tbe in backports?
[21:41] <Scunizi> arbrandes: i was trying to exit it and ended up putting it in the background.
[21:41] <arbrandes> Scunizi, hehehe, the old CTRL-Z slip... Large fingers? :)
[21:41] <livingdaylight> fliegenderfrosch, fliegenderfrosch, interessant.... ich hätte gedacht das System>Preference>Sound dafür war_
[21:41] <[BT]JaC> 7.10
[21:41] <[BT]JaC> gutty
[21:41] <[BT]JaC> gutsy
[21:41] <jordanjay29> graft: I don't know. FF3 final will likely be in 8.10 for sure.
[21:41] <graft> jordanjay29: in any case i'm not about to upgrade firefox via it's in-browser upgrade mechanism, and i hardly think that's what ubuntu would recommend
[21:41] <Scunizi> arbrandes: yep.. and old habbits.
[21:41] <andycaas1> How to put a trashbin on a desktop?
[21:41] <rbs-tito> graft: It won't be updated to the final release, most likely, that is not how things are usually done. But any important changes that mozilla make will be merged into the beta, as is normal.
[21:42] <siloko> Feisty @ logon = 120 processes; Gutsy@ logon = 170 processes; Hardy @ logon = 230 processes - what goves - I gain a hundred process (and associated resource hog) for no apparent benefit!!
[21:42] <arbrandes> Scunizi, so yeah, "fg" should do it.  Type "jobs" to list the ones that are suspended or on the background.
[21:42] <jordanjay29> graft: Mozilla's always makes sure that Firefox updates correctly for all systems it's compatible with.
[21:42] <dredhammer> how do you go about installing the restricted nvidia drivers for 8.04 i can't find them in synaptic
[21:42] <Scunizi> arbrandes: fg shows it but doesn't continue the process in the forground so I can kill it
[21:42] <rbs-tito> andycaas1: There is a program called ubuntu-tweak that makes a good job of it
[21:42] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: this is part of the login managers task, which can only be configured by the administrator, thats why it isn't in the sound preference dialog
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[21:43] <fliegenderfrosch> dredhammer: use the hardware manager
[21:43] <orfeu> hy all
[21:43] <Scunizi> arbrandes: I seem to remember using a bang or & or % and the job number
[21:43] <graft> jordanjay29: so, i should do updates to firefox via the browser and not the package manager?!
[21:43] <rinaldi_> dredhammer: try doing "sudo apt-get update" . the servers are slow so make sure it doesn't time out. I had to do it a couple of times. then try synaptic again
[21:43] <livingdaylight> fliegenderfrosch, but sound lets one add /change sounds apparently. This is confusing
[21:43] <Scunizi> arbrandes: maybe fg did kill it.. it's gone.. :)
[21:43] <dredhammer> yes thats empty fliegenderfrosch
[21:43] <graft> jordanjay29: why don't i just run slackware, then?
[21:43] <arbrandes> Scunizi, is it one of those pesky processes that fork by themselves?  You should be able to get it back with fg, even if you used & to send it to the background.
[21:43] <rbs-tito> jordanjay29: That isn't very likely to be activated though, the Ubuntu version is extremely customised. Any updates will come through the update manager, as is standard.
[21:43] <arbrandes> Scunizi, probably the process finished by itself after fg got it back.
[21:43] <rbs-tito> graft: Because it doesn't ship with GNOME?
[21:44] <graft> rbs-tito: ah, good.. okay, thanks for your answer
[21:44] <graft> rbs-tito: <- running KDE
[21:44] <jordanjay29> rbs-tito: thanks, didn't know that.
[21:44] <hanasakiRemote> do-release-upgrade gives ....   File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 7, in <module>
[21:44] <hanasakiRemote>     from UpdateManager.Core.MetaRelease import MetaReleaseCore
[21:44] <orfeu> hello guys how it is 8.04 ? :)
[21:44] <jordanjay29> graft: #kubuntu
[21:44] <Scunizi> arbrandes: maybe.. it was gdb -p <process number>
[21:44] <orfeu> what do you think about it ?
[21:44] <Wyleyrabbit_> would there be any benefit to doing a full fresh install instead of an in-place upgrade to 8.04 desktop?
[21:44] <graft> jordanjay29: this channel is for general support as well
[21:44] <graft> jordanjay29: if i had a KDE question i'd go there.
[21:44] <arbrandes> Scunizi, oh, you were attaching to the process then.  Maybe the *process* itself died in the meantime.
[21:45] <minion_> is the LTS a final release or a beta?
[21:45] <jordanjay29> graft: Just so you're aware is all.
[21:45] <cherva> I'm having problems with some update packages .... see here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64278/ please help
[21:45] <naes> does anyone know the mp3 packages for amarok, my net is working but the mp3 support amarok brings up takes forever to open synaptic and then doesn't download..
[21:45] <sebastian> Is there a good graphical WLAN thingy out there? nm-applet kinda sux :P
[21:45] <Scunizi> arbrandes: I hope not.. it was xorg
[21:45] <graft> jordanjay29: i'm well aware, thanks :)
[21:45] <Abd> minion_ it's final
[21:45] <jordanjay29> minion_: Final release. LTS is Long Term Support.
[21:45] <andycaas1> How to use compiz themes?
[21:45] <rbs-tito> orfeu: Hi, you might be better off asking in #ubuntu-offtopic , unless you have a specific issue. Better yet, try it and see :)
[21:45] <Fishscene> Minion "LTS" is "Long Term Support"
[21:45] <minion_> sick thanks
[21:45] <fliegenderfrosch> Wyleyrabbit_: yes, you get rid of all programs you don't use anymore
[21:45] <graft> andycaas1: if you mean emerald themes, you can run emerald-theme-manager, probably
[21:45] <pen> how to convert from ogg to other formats?
[21:45] <arbrandes> Scunizi, lol, yeah, I hope not too. :)  Maybe a child process, then?
[21:45] <caleb_> my update manager seems to be frozen.... any help?
[21:45] <fliegenderfrosch> andycaas1: there are no "compiz themes"
[21:45] <minion_> so are people loving it so far?
[21:45] <DooMRunneR> hmm, i can see the WUSB54G adapter in lsusb, anyone an idea witch driver this beast needs?
[21:45] <arbrandes> caleb_, servers are swamped.
[21:45] <jordanjay29> caleb_: servers are slow
[21:45] <jordanjay29> or swamped
[21:45] <djm62> for the guy that helped me before, doing the md5sum and googling brought me http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/MD5SUMS which doesn't match the sums on that mirror
[21:45] <arbrandes> heheheh
[21:45] <DooMRunneR> i´ve read something about rt2500
[21:45] <Abd> jordanjay29 more than slow
[21:46] <pmasters_genie> no network card dont work anymore!!!
[21:46] <Fishscene> Minion, I dont' know, too much going on in this chanel and I'm still trying to get it myself :P
[21:46] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: Linksys?
[21:46] <caleb_> damn
[21:46] <Blu3Knight> jordanjay29: good and bad things about it.
[21:46] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: jep
[21:46] <jiphex> Yo, anyone know if it's possible to get an actual device descriptor from under a v4l record in sysfs?
[21:46] <Stev1> Good Afternonn
[21:46] <jordanjay29> Blu3Knight: what are you referring to?
[21:46] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: WUSB43G V4
[21:46] <Scunizi> arbrandes: ah .. who know's at this point.. nice to have it dead though.   It seems that Xorg chews a high percentage of my cpu on some sort of clock cycle..
[21:46] <netster403> Running 8.04 right now, freaking awesome..  apt repos are CRAZY slow though
[21:46] <Stev1> If I've been running the pre release version, there's nothing i need to do, right?
[21:46] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: RaLink chipset?
[21:46] <caleb_> how long do you think the servers will be slow?
[21:46] <ubuntuROX> Stev1
[21:46] <jordanjay29> caleb_: maybe a day or so
[21:47] <rbs-tito> netster403: caleb_: Things should be normal in a day or two
[21:47] <Stev1> yes Rox
[21:47] <rinaldi_> caleb_:  couple of days
[21:47] <sp219-away> I have a question. Is there any VNC server i can use that is compatible with copy & pasting w/ a windows VNC Client? Any at all? thanks!
[21:47] <ubuntuROX> its probally updated but you want to run sudo update-grub
[21:47] <pmasters_genie> anyone help? my netgear wireless card WPN311 doesn't want to play
[21:47] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: dont know the chipset
[21:47] <Stev1> ah, ok
[21:47] <dettoaltrimenti> how can I see what driver my broadcom network card is using? I'm on hardy 8.04
[21:47] <stbain> equivalent to curse.com on patch day
[21:47] <At0x0> Is anyone having problems with us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.92.3)?
[21:47] <rbs-tito> sp219-away: Vmware is about to support that
[21:47] <caleb_> yes! i just got throught
[21:47] <sp219-away> I have a question. Is there any VNC server i can use that is compatible with copy & pasting w/ a windows VNC Client? Any at all? thanks! i've tried tightvncserver so far, that's it
[21:47] <caleb_> *through
[21:47] <Starnestommy> At0x0: a lot of people are
[21:47] <arbrandes> Scunizi, do you use proprietary video drivers?  I'm back on open-source ones for the big Hardy upgrade, and Xorg is chewing up a lot more CPU.
[21:47] <jordanjay29> dettoaltrimenti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[21:47] <netster403> FYI the torrents are moving crazy fast, i would highly recommend using them.  I was getting on average 800Kb/s due to the sheer number of seeders and leachers
[21:47] <wad> Is it possible to run a vnc server on my linux box, and allow Windows users to connect to me, and see what I'm seeing? I installed vncserver, but I'm not cure this is the right thing.
[21:47] <Greyhound-> rbs-tito, I made an administrator account and ran the command
[21:47] <tharvey> how can I get my NIC to register its name with the dhcp/dns server?
[21:47] <arbrandes> At0x0, the servers are swamped.
[21:47] <MikeCulver> At0x0: Yes, there is a huge load on the servers at the moment
[21:47] <Greyhound-> can I pm?
[21:47] <ubuntuROX> Stev1 otherwise it will show develpment branch when booting
[21:47] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: any idea how to check that?
[21:47] <At0x0> Is there someplace I can get a deb for firefox 2 besides the ubuntu archive?
[21:47] <gaurav__> hi, i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 beta, ever since i upgraded i had a bug where the gdm login would not load, however the orange background and mouse cursor would load but it never gets to the login prompt... i have now upgraded fully to 8.04 and the bug is still there, i get no gdm login window... anyone have any ideas? i think this is related to bug 210538
[21:48] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: Could you paste the output of lspci to pastebin.org please?
[21:48] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Go ahead
[21:48] <sp219-away> rbs-tito: i don't want to emulate it, i just want to have a vnc server running that supports copy and pasting
[21:48] <icanhasproxy> gaurav__: do you have an acer laptop?
[21:48] <arbrandes> netster403, too bad the DVD torrent is not that fast.
[21:48] <sp219-away> it doesn't even have to be VNC
[21:48] <gaurav__> icanhasproxy: nope
[21:48] <sp219-away> anything that supports copy/pasting
[21:48] <rbs-tito> sp219-away: Sorry, I read VM. Need to sleep more!
[21:48] <Scunizi> arbrandes: I haven't done the upgrade. I'll wait until the servers settle down. but yes.. whatever the restricted drivers manager in gutsy uses..
[21:48] <sp219-away> rbs-tito: :P
[21:48] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito in lspci is nothing about that usb-adapter
[21:48] <arbrandes> Scunizi, ok, so it's not that.
[21:48] <rinaldi_> wad: if you are using it over the internet you need to tunnel your vnc server over ssh and recieve with putty and a vnc client on a windows computer. Google it. there are many tutorials
[21:49] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: Sorry, I meant lsusb
[21:49] <jiphex> I can get the records for devices under sysfs under /sys/class/video4linux/video0 or whatever, but how do I get to the actual device descriptor underneat that directory?
[21:49] <zoidberg> hey guys...i have this laptop that i has ubuntu on it to ssh into a school redhat account using the login via XDMCP option at the ubuntu login screen....for some reason i can't login using XMDCP into that smae account using my PC which aslo has ubuntu on it
[21:49] <zoidberg> any help
[21:49] <zoidberg> ?
[21:49] <Scunizi> arbrandes: think maybe compiz might be part of the issue?
[21:49] <fiete> Hi! glxinfo says that I have GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. However when calling compiz.real it says that its missing. Card is radeon 9000, driver radeon. Ideas?
[21:49] <KyleK> oh sure now the repositories are lagged ;_;
[21:49] <milly1234> seeding ubuntu now...
[21:49] <At0x0> Will this file install firefox or is it only an update? firefox_2.0.0.14+2nobinonly-0ubuntu0.7.10_i386.deb (its 8.8M)
[21:49] <lch_> zoidberg: do you use ssh -X?
[21:49] <arbrandes> Scunizi, oh, I'd most certainly try disabling it to see if the CPU eat-up stops.
[21:49] <zoidberg> no
[21:50] <rinaldi_> wad: I would help you through it but I have got to go
[21:50] <wad> rinaldi_, I'm thinking this should be pretty straitforward. We're both on the same LAN. He's just on a Windows box, and I'm on a Linux box.
[21:50] <rbs-tito> milly1234: Every little helps, thanks! :)
[21:50] <wad> rinaldi_, thanks!
[21:50] <gaurav__> At0x0: that looks like firefox itself, not an update
[21:50] <sorto> is it normal when I open an SSH session to an ubuntu server, that the prompt only shows a dollar sign? I thought its typically username@host:~#
[21:50] <zoidberg> lch_, i use the XMCP session option on login screen..it works on my laptop but not on my desktop to access the same session
[21:50] <At0x0> Would I want to install it with dpkg or apt?
[21:50] <mtappenden> What came between Breezy Badger and Dapper Drake ???
[21:50] <lch_> zoidberg: cause it can be set as default in the config file or specified manually. if you use ssh X tunneling it must be set one or the other way
[21:50] <milly1234> at least until I have to reboot for the install, but I will give it a little while
[21:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[21:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) was the fifth release of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[21:51] <fliegenderfrosch> sorto: you can configure that
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[21:51] <rbs-tito> AtariMoe: Anything from the repositories is done with apt, dpkg is for standalone debs.
[21:51] <cham_eleon> dany_21a: thanks for your help, i'll try that
[21:51] <rbs-tito> ** At0x0 , sorry AtariMoe
[21:51] <dettoaltrimenti> ok under lspci I have a broadcom BCM4328 network controller, and wired internet works, but wireless internet doesn't show up on network manager. Do I need a different driver?
[21:51] <zoidberg> lch_, well i'm confused...i didn't have to do anything on my ubunut laptop to access this session....how can i access the same session using the XMDCP session option at login on my ubuntu PC
[21:51] <arbrandes> Scunizi, as a matter of fact, even not knowing anything about your system, I'd bet that compiz is at least indirectly responsible.
[21:51] <rinaldi_> wad: in which case, do system > preferences >remote desktop and set that up. then download vnc for windows and connect to your server's IP
[21:51] <lch_> why does it want to remove XMMS???? i dont want it to do that
[21:51] <nahoj> question: when using the live-cd of 7.10 - my computer automatically detects all the settings for the network and connects to internet through my d-link dir-655. when installing the 8.04 on my computer (or running the 8.04-live cd) I can't access the network. what to do? please help me, I am a noob...
[21:51] <sorto> fliegenderfrosch, what should I search for to see some instructions on how to do that?
[21:51] <Emof> after upgrading to 8.04 my nvidia drivers don't work (I'm using the glx-new ones)
[21:51] <AtariMoe> rbs-tito: no problem
[21:51] <El1> Hi guys I can't manage to get my nvidia drivers working in hardy heron, everything installs just fine without errors but when I reboot I get a prompt to run in low graphics mode saying there's no drivers installed
[21:51] <fliegenderfrosch> sorto: bash prompt
[21:51] <Emof> el1: me too...
[21:51] <wad> rinaldi_, thanks again! I'm working on it.
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[21:51] <At0x0> rbs-tito: Well, it's a .deb file but it's from the apt cache..
[21:52] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: http://www.pastebin.org/31805
[21:52] <rbs-tito> At0x0: Why don't you download it with apt?
[21:52] <At0x0> rbs-tito: I don't know how to install .deb files with apt.
[21:52] <ariqs> i can't decide between ubuntu and kubuntu, someone tell me what to pick! ;P
[21:52] <At0x0> rbs-tito: The repository is down.
[21:52] <Scunizi> arbrandes: nope.. even set to none in System/Preferances/Appearance/Visual Effects.. that should turn on compiz..
[21:52] <At0x0> Or lagged out.
[21:52] <lch_> zoidberg: you are using XDMCP over the internet without encryption??? or do you tunnel it through a ssh connection?
[21:52] <Black_Magic> Uh,...
[21:52] <Abd> ariqs lol pick xfce
[21:52] <Abd> :p
[21:52] <Black_Magic> is ubuntu+1 gone?
[21:52] <arbrandes> Emof and El1: I'd try using "envy".
[21:52] <UncleTimmy> Has the final of 8.04 been released?
[21:52] <ubuntuROX> Use ubuntu
[21:52] <Emof> arbrandes: what is that?
[21:52] <El1> I did that millions of times reinstalling
[21:52] <jappdev> UncleTimmy: yes
[21:52] <arbrandes> Scunizi, oh well, back to square 1. lol
[21:52] <lch_> UncleTimmy: read topic, yes
[21:52] <El1> I even used the nvidia.com driver
[21:53] <Fishscene> UBuntu+1 is meant for the next release of Ubuntu. Since the next release is THIS release, the channel has been closed
[21:53] <El1> and tried installing the packages from synaptic
[21:53] <ubuntuROX> I say use ubuntu,, but only cause I do and IM partial to the simple fast Gnome interface :)
[21:53] <knewbee> How can i refresh my Ipaddress configured as DHCP client?
[21:53] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: Try these instructions, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-setup-linksys-wusb54g-v4-wireless-in-ubuntu-gusty.html
[21:53] <nickt> can anyone advise why third party drivers would be removed from a new ubuntu version?
[21:53] <arbrandes> Emof: a script that'll install/uninstall the official Nvidia drivers.  It is now in the universe repository.
[21:53] <zoidberg> lch_, i dunno...i am trying the same method on two different machines...like i said i just type in username@different.machine.edu using both my laptop and pc but only the laptop gets htrough like that
[21:53] <El1> yet still when I try to restart after a perfect install of drivers it says low gfx mode
[21:53] <Black_Magic> DanaG: uh you still recommend i reinstall DHCP it still didnt work had to do the gw thing and all think it has something to do with the default GW?
[21:53] <dsop> update-manager dist-upgrade hans when starting the update
[21:53] <Scunizi> arbrandes: just weirdness.... I may end up doing an upgrade to get the latest program updates then a fresh install using the old /home (separate partition) . things will be cleaner
[21:53] <UncleTimmy> Oh yeah, duh.  My mistake..  well, my update manager is stuck at "20".. is this perhaps caused by network overload?
[21:53] <El1> what could be the cause of this?
[21:53] <dsop> does anybody know why?
[21:53] <DooMRunneR> lol, would be nice if i can connect to the internet with that machine :)
[21:53] <lch_> zoidberg: ok, then i don't know. need to reboot into hardy now. bye
[21:54] <compaqr4000> I seem to be having a grub problem here.  I have multiple hard drives and 3 operating systems installed.  Ubuntu 8.04 is my os of choice, but my grub is in an older pclos drive.  How do I move that?
[21:54] <El1> Could it be a problem that I'm still running hardy beta?
[21:54] <arbrandes> Scunizi, yeah, that will at least rule out some variables.
[21:54] <rbs-tito> El1: It is a bit confusing when you type over multiple lines, please keep your messages to one send. Could you put your xorg.conf on pastebin.org please ?
[21:54] <ais523> for whoever had the same problem I did, I figured out what caused my Gutsy->Hardy upgrade to fail: the file /usr/local/lib/libgcc_s.so.1. After the upgrade locks, shutdown your computer and reload and it goes to a command line. Then sudo mv that file to a new name, reboot, use synaptic to fix broken dependencies and install updates.
[21:54] <ere4si> dsop: the servers are overloaded
[21:54] <gord_slater> dsop: network overload, the sources "servers" are reaally busy with the new release
[21:54] <ubuntuROX> If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[21:54] <winterelf> hi people got a wierd problam , i'm using "atp-get install " and it stacks in "connecting to archive.ubuntu.com(91.189.92.3)
[21:54] <lmnop> why is web browsing so slow ? always sais waiting for...
[21:54] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Hello, I have a Dell Inspiron 1420. I came here earlier with a sound problem...but I fixed it based on directions specified by Dell itself. However, the sound is incredibly low, despite having everything turned all the way up. How would I fix this?
[21:54] <dsop> ere4si, gord_slater okay i already thought this, thanks. hmm let's hope it's better in a ew hours
[21:54] <xfroggy> after upgrade, my partitions don't show up by their names anymore but by their size, is it possible to change it?
[21:55] <arbrandes> winterelf, servers are swamped.
[21:55] <Blu3Knight> compaqr4000 - Which one is your boot drive?
[21:55] <matt44> if you get the torrents, can you do an "upgrade"?
[21:55] <XB23> hey guys for some reason ive binded some ips to my box when i do ipconfig they show fine and i can connect to them great but i cant ping them from the box itself?
[21:55] <XB23> any ideas
[21:55] <arbrandes> matt44, yes with the alternate-cd, or dvd.
[21:55] <ere4si> dsop: might be a FEW DAYS
[21:55] <XB23> they wont connect to each other
[21:55] <tovare> Hi All, I fixed by wlan whoes by sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-16-generic
[21:55] <Coren> I'm new to Ubuntu, any way to get an Auzentech Prelude card to actually produce sound?
[21:55] <winterelf> arbrandes: what do u nean?
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[21:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> nevermind
[21:55] <gord_slater> dsop: yes same problem in all releases for me testing here no worries
[21:55] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> I'm fine now
[21:55] <Scunizi> arbrandes: I did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop yesturday. Do you know how to eliminate everything it installed?
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[21:55] <El1> atm I don't have an xorg.conf file as I have no drivers installed at the moment and am running from vesa
[21:55] <arbrandes> winterelf, with the release of Hardy Heron today, everybody is downloading.
[21:55] <matt44> arbrandes:  this is the same as doing a dist-upgrade, right?  i don't want to lose my files.
[21:55] <winterelf> ho
[21:55] <winterelf> :) thanks
[21:55] <El1> oh wait nevermind that last
[21:55] <arbrandes> matt44, yes, except the packages are on the iso/cd/dvd
[21:56] <tovare> But, I have another issue after upgrading to 8.04, the keyboard layout keeps snapping back to US and not Norwegian. I`ve tried configuring it lots of times.
[21:56] <pinkmutz> gggggggggggggggg
[21:56] <arbrandes> matt44, you just pop in the cd, it'll prompt to do the upgrade.
[21:56] <Dusk_> hi there
[21:56] <gord_slater> well, good luck everyone 9 hours in here for me i'm thoroughly shattered nn all
[21:56] <Jack_Sparrow> pinkmutz, please dont do that
[21:56] <thunder_storm> hello everybode
[21:56] <rbs-tito> !hi | dusk
[21:56] <ubotu> dusk: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:56] <UncleTimmy> It's rather odd because I didn't upgrade today and my update manager is showing No Upgrades Available
[21:56] <compaqr4000> Blu3Knight, oh boy....how do I find the name of that?  I know it is called 8.4 GB Media in Nautilus
[21:56] <stintage> 7.04
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[21:56] <arbrandes> matt44, you might still need to download some packages from the servers, though, especially if you use the alternate-cd instead of the DVD.
[21:56] <lmnop> anyone know why web browsing is soo slow?
[21:56] <nahoj> coren, there are no drivers released as far as I konw... I have the same card and had to take it out to get some sound...
[21:56] <Dusk_> i installed ubuntu 8.04rc yesterday. how can i get pass to stable release now???
[21:56] <lmnop> always sais waiting for...
[21:56] <arbrandes> Scunizi, oh, I had that problem once.
[21:56] <knewbee> Probably sudo dhclient
[21:56] <thunder_storm> can somebody help me with conky and lm-sensors?
[21:57] <arbrandes> Scunizi, wait up.  You're on Gutsy, right?
[21:57] <fliegenderfrosch> Dusk_: just do an update
[21:57] <dettoaltrimenti> I'm running 8.04, and my wired connection works, but I don't see any options to use wireless internet: is this a driver problem?
[21:57] <Canaris_> Hey. I just installed 8.04 and the max screensize I can pick is 1280x1024 instead of 1600x1200, which worked fine under 7.04 and 7.10! I tried changing the Monitor, but I cannot do this anymore. All I can do is change the screen resolution. Any clue on howto change the monitor as it was possible in 7.10 ??
[21:57] <oddalot> i can't use apt-get on 8.10...it won't connect to the servers...anyone else having this problem?
[21:57] <El1> rbs-tito: the xorg.conf file is at http://pastebin.org/31806
[21:57] <stintage> lolwut?
[21:57] <Scunizi> arbrandes:
[21:57] <Scunizi> arbrandes: yes
[21:57] <Coren> nahoj: not even some generic driver? nothing at all? :(
[21:57] <oddalot> err 8.04
[21:57] <Catsceo[BBS]> what the heck is Translation-en_US? http://pastebin.ca/996291
[21:57] <nahoj> Coren, afaik no
[21:57] <ompaul> Dusk_, Applications Accessories Terminal and type this: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  ; sudo reboot and happy days
[21:57] <flaremaster> i'm a beginner and I need help on how to install from a tarbell
[21:57] <ere4si> oddalot: the servers are overloaded
[21:57] <Coren> nahoj: aw, that sucks. This may be a dealbreaker for me :(
[21:57] <oddalot> oh
[21:57] <dystopianray> flaremaster: what are you trying to install?
[21:58] <oddalot> thanks
[21:58] <ais523> flaremaster: normally, create a directory somewhere
[21:58] <flaremaster> Mozilla thunberbird
[21:58] <fliegenderfrosch> flaremaster: sure there is no ubuntu package for your program?
[21:58] <thunder_storm> lm-sensors is configured and works fine - i see a lot of temperatures, if i use the sensors-command
[21:58] <dystopianray> flaremaster: that's in the repos
[21:58] <edwin__> happy birthday ubuntu
[21:58] <ompaul> flaremaster, as a beginner you don't need to install from a tarball there are over 20000 applications already made for this
[21:58] <fliegenderfrosch> flaremaster: use the one in the repos
[21:58] <K4k-laptop> does anyone know of a way to get xmms installed? It keeps insisting I get xmms2 but I want regular xmms
[21:58] <strtok> us.archive.ubuntu.com is dead
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[21:58] <DBautell> this channel needs more tarbell
[21:58] <DooMRunneR> is it possible to make an DNS entry persistent in resolv.conf, the network-manager changes those entrys every reboot
[21:58] <XB23> guys how do i make this happen on system boot ->  ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
[21:58] <thunder_storm> but i don't see it in conky
[21:58] <rbs-tito> El1: You said you tried the Nvidia binary from nvidia.com ?
[21:58] <arbrandes> Scunizi: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[21:58] <nahoj> I just installed 8.04 from being a windowsuser for a long time. I can not get the computer to connect to the network. Works just fine with the 7.10 live cd. but not with the installed version of 8.04. any ideas?
[21:58] <flaremaster> how would you do that
[21:58] <matt44> arbrandes:  where is the alternate DVD?  i can't find it.
[21:58] <ompaul> K4k-laptop, xmms is no longer maintained in upstream,
[21:58] <UncleTimmy> ok dumb question but what's the file i edit to get restricted upgrades
[21:59] <netster403> xmms sucks
[21:59] <Scunizi> arbrandes: thanks.. I'll look at it.
[21:59] <ais523> nahoj: wireless or wired?
[21:59] <matt44> ubuntu does a pretty crummy job of advertising their products if you can't easily find them on the ubuntu webpage.
[21:59] <K4k-laptop> ompaul, that's what I figured, but is there a way to still get it?
[21:59] <nahoj> ais523, wired
[21:59] <adinc> tarzeau: ping!
[21:59] <ere4si> thunder_storm: seen this - http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html
[21:59] <ompaul> K4k-laptop, not supported
[21:59] <K4k-laptop> :'(
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[21:59] <ais523> nahoj: how far away from your computer can you ping?
[21:59] <arbrandes> matt44: All torrents: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[21:59] <rbs-tito> matt44: We had big banners earlier but they are down now, probably because of bandwidth
[21:59] <Abd> aarrgghh the server stalled again
[21:59] <nahoj> ais523, not even the router
[21:59] <Coren> nahoj: it's not possible either to just have Ubuntu ignore the prelude and to get it to use on-board audio instead?
[21:59] <XB23> guys how do i make this happen on system boot ->  ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
[21:59] <openuser> Hi, I have installed a program called ebox to manage my intranet, but it ask me for a ''distinguished name of the search base'', but i don't know what is this, do someone??
[21:59] <munkie> can the alternate cd be used to install on a pc with 2gb HDD?
[21:59] <flaremaster> just for reference, how would you compile from a tarbell?
[21:59] <EnvoyRising> matt44: I found the alternate cd, but you say there's a dvd as well?
[22:00] <nahoj> Coren, yes, that is what I am doing
[22:00] <ompaul> XB23, it happens automatically
[22:00] <ais523> nahoj: first try restarting your network connection, do sudo ifdown then sudo ifup at a command prompt
[22:00] <matt44> <EnvoyRising>  that's what i was told.  ican't find it either.
[22:00] <Jack_Sparrow> matt44, bandwidth costs money, cd's are readily available, dvd's .. from the torrents
[22:00] <lch_> something is broken. i just booted into my new upgraded hardy and it shows errors about crahsed application, that i'v not run since i booted... are these "old" messages?
[22:00] <realcoolguy> accidentally messed with my printer settings.  under system->administration->printing it keeps defaulting to an IP address that isn't the local machine.  I can say 'goto server' and put in 127.0.0.1 and then it sees everything, but i need to make that default somehow (i can only print a test page, no other programs seem to be able to see printer)
[22:00] <arbrandes> EnvoyRising, yes, there's a dvd (it's not alternate, it's just THE dvd)
[22:00] <Coren> nahoj: but you had to physically take it out? or did I misunderstand?
[22:00] <EnvoyRising> its right on the download page
[22:00] <compaqr4000> How do I find the name of my default grub boot drive
[22:00] <nahoj> ais523, done, did not work
[22:00] <cdavis> how do I write a regexp to match "Object Deleted:" in the middle of a line
[22:00] <Hikejinx> flaremaster: it's a tarball
[22:00] <rbs-tito> flaremaster: usually it is ./configure , make, sudo make install. See each package for information
[22:00] <fliegenderfrosch> flaremaster: extract it, cd to the dir, use "./configure", "make" and "sudo make install"
[22:00] <matt44> <Jack_Sparrow>  where?  where is the alternate DVD torrent?
[22:00] <nahoj> Coren, put it in after I realized it was not in the way =p
[22:00] <DBautell> !torrents
[22:00] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[22:00] <arbrandes> EnvoyRising: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[22:00] <ais523> nahoj: did you get any error messages?
[22:00] <EnvoyRising> arbrandes: oh, nevermind. the dvd i can't find. the alternate cd is there though
[22:00] <Catsceo[BBS]> so the repos are down?
[22:01] <fliegenderfrosch> Catsceo[BBS]: at least heavily overused
[22:01] <rbs-tito> EnvoyRising: There's no such thing as the alternate dvd
[22:01] <nahoj> ais523, just that it did not get any response when asking for a connection
[22:01] <Canaris_> I just installed 8.04 and the max screensize I can pick is 1280x1024 instead of 1600x1200, which worked fine under 7.04 and 7.10! I tried changing the Monitor, but I cannot do this anymore. All I can do is change the screen resolution. Any clue on howto change the monitor as it was possible in 7.10 ??
[22:01] <ais523> Catsceo[BBS]: not all of them, go to software sources and do a scan and it'll pick up one that's till up
[22:01] <Jack_Sparrow> matt44, I dont have a link handy..  several people have posted them in here today
[22:01] <rbs-tito> EnvoyRising: The DVD has text mode and graphical mode all on one disc
[22:01] <Scunizi> arbrandes: nice .. it's working.. then after do I do a apt-get purge (list of file names)?
[22:01] <jourdan> Canaris_: you can edit xorg.conf
[22:01] <El1> rbs-tito: are you finding anything in my xorg.conf?
[22:01] <lch_> is it normal that the login screen text entry box is not centered on screen? (hardy)
[22:01] <Canaris_> jourdan, ok thx
[22:01] <ais523> nahoj: try taking the cable out and plugging it back in
[22:02] <matt44> <Jack_Sparrow>  not to the alternate DVD they didn't.  i have the links.  they have alternate CDs but no the alternate DVD.
[22:02] <nahoj> ais523, ok, brb
[22:02] <arbrandes> Scunizi, yeah, I guess there'd be no harm in purging them.
[22:02] <EnvoyRising> rbs-tito: ah. has ubuntu always had that, or is it just a new thing?
[22:02] <openuser> does anybody know how to solve the ebox problem
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> matt44, I did see the dvd torrent posted earlier...  just look for it
[22:02] <Scunizi> arbrandes: except at the end it reinstalls ubuntu-desktop
[22:02] <EnvoyRising> i'm already on 8.04, but i was just curious
[22:02] <Coren> On to the next problem, then. How do I install a Canon Pixma MP600 printer when it's not in the driver list?
[22:02] <arbrandes> Scunizi, which I think it should.  It is good to at least have one of the *-desktops, specially for upgrades.
[22:02] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, simple question that I can't seem to remember the answer to.  I'm using KDE and I've decided I want to upgrade to 8.04 using Gnome from Kubuntu 7.10.  What do I have to change in what file again?
[22:02] <fliegenderfrosch> openuser: probably everyone is busy with solving download/installation problems... :)
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[22:02] <matt44> <Jack_Sparrow>  I have the DVD link.  I need the ALTERNATE DVD torrent.  I don't want to do a fresh install, i have important files.
[22:03] <Scunizi> arbrandes: ?
[22:03] <oddalot> ok, i'm on 8.04, i notice no differences, except i can't update anything, and my ati drivers don't work
[22:03] <Scunizi> arbrandes: * :)
[22:03] <rbs-tito> El1: It seems that you are using the open source nv drivers on a board called "vesa". Try letting the nvidia driver reconfigure it
[22:03] <rbs-tito> EnvoyRising: Yup
[22:03] <arbrandes> matt44: there's no alternate dvd.  there's only THE dvd.
[22:03] <matt44> anyone have a link for the alternate DVD torrent?
[22:03] <arbrandes> matt44: it contains everything: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[22:03] <janste> hi
[22:03] <smax> I've setup 8.04 on boot I see error 21 : Selected disk does not exist
[22:03] <El1> How do you send messages in light-brown to others?
[22:03] <rbs-tito> !hi | janste
[22:03] <ubotu> janste: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[22:03] <matt44> <arbrandes>  will the DVD allow me to upgrade without erasing my files?
[22:03] <munkie> is that a desktop dvd or alternate arbrandes?
[22:03] <arbrandes> matt44, yes
[22:03] <hali> is there a live feed from de hemms?
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> matt44,  The DVD has text mode and graphical mode all on one disc
[22:03] <maco> munkie: thre is only one
[22:03] <nahoj> ais523, ok.. so now i get something like "ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0"
[22:04] <jtuttle> hey.
[22:04] <_boikhutso_> does the server cd come with the ubuntu desktop packs?
[22:04] <arbrandes> munkie, there's only ONE dvd, THE dvd: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrentY
[22:04] <rbs-tito> matt44: Pop it in while Ubuntu is on, it will offer an upgrade
[22:04] <fliegenderfrosch> El1: what you mean is probably the highlighting of your irc program which happens when someone writes your nick
[22:04] <maco> El1: what are you talking about?
[22:04] <jharkn> smax: you have an error with grub
[22:04] <P_Kable> what does LTS stand for ?
[22:04] <arbrandes> rbs-tito, matt44: yes, just pop it in.
[22:04] <milly1234> well off I go to make a partition, copy my home dir, then install 8.04, hope all goes well
[22:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !lts
[22:04] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[22:04] <El1> yes, thanks, got it now
[22:04] <L815> if you've been using hardy beta for a while will the release today bring much difference?
[22:04] <matt44> <rbs-tito>  thanks
[22:04] <Zoft> When I start ubuntu (8.04, installed with wubi) I get the error ata4.00: revalidation failed (errno=5). Any suggestion for fix? (hilight me)
[22:04] <rbs-tito> munkie: The only DVD released by Ubuntu has the functions of both the desktop and alternate cds
[22:04] <jharkn> smax: probably trying to boot from the wrong HD and/or partition
[22:04] <jtuttle> I'm running from the Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCd.  I have a ThinkPad T61 with an nVidia Quadro NVS 140M, and I want to try out the desktop effects.  Is this possible?
[22:04] <maco> P_Kable: long term support
[22:04] <ubuntuROX> If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[22:04] <munkie> cool thanks rbs-tito
[22:04] <oddalot> is anyone elses apt-get working?
[22:04] <ais523> nahoj: run ifconfig
[22:04] <fliegenderfrosch> El1: always write the nicks if you answer someone, as the messages easily get lost in such a busy channel
[22:04] <maco> L815: if youve stayed up to date, thats it
[22:05] <arbrandes> oddalot, no, servers are swamped
[22:05] <Scunizi> arbrandes: looks like it's removing my entire system
[22:05] <L815> maco, alright, thanks
[22:05] <Jack_Sparrow> oddalot, expect long delays, repos are very busy
[22:05] <oddalot> damn, i should of never upgraded
[22:05] <VeN0mizer> System->Admin->Software sources->Download from->Other->archive.ubuntu-rocks.org->Choose....there ya go ;) Update manager lives again with the latest updates and barely any lag
[22:05] <j_humphrey> How do I change the wireless module to load iwp3945 instead of iwl3945?
[22:05] <rbs-tito> P_Kable: LTS means it will be supported with updates for a long time. Though we will still release versions evry 6 months, you can keep using lts for a few years if you want.
[22:05] <whonicca> can someone put the official torrent file on some other hosting site =\
[22:05] <arbrandes> Scunizi, uhhh, it shouldn't do that at all.
[22:05] <janste> hey, i am updating through the shiny interface - and during the fetching of "Paketdepots anpassen" the update notifier tells me to update... i think this daemon should not do this, because i am already upgrading =)
[22:05] <yaris12346789> hello guys i installed mplayer and it throws this message when i try converting some video files
[22:05] <El1> rbs-tito: by reconfiguring it, do you mean installing the nvidia drivers? Because that's what I did lots of times but it just ends up back in low-res mode back to vesa.
[22:05] <yaris12346789> Try appending the scale filter to your filter list,
[22:05] <ubuntuROX> L815 If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[22:05] <[T]-Rex> exit
[22:05] <yaris12346789> e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
[22:05] <[T]-Rex> cw
[22:05] <arbrandes> Scunizi, seriously, I ran this to remove Kubuntu AND Xubuntu, and it worked fine.
[22:05] <dexhu> hello to all from Florida
[22:05] <jharkn> smax: see http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[22:05] <[T]-Rex> cp
[22:05] <Scunizi> arbrandes: it took skype out which isn't really related to Kubuntu
[22:05] <maco> j_humphrey: why:?
[22:05] <L815> ubuntuROX, i'll give that a sho
[22:05] <L815> *shot
[22:05] <nahoj> ais523, ok, and then? it just lists a bunch of things
[22:06] <Scunizi> y
[22:06] <Squirrely_Wrath> I want to update from Kubuntu 7.10 to Ubuntu 8.04.  How do I do that?
[22:06] <ais523> nahoj: is eth0 listed in the output?
[22:06] <rbs-tito> El1: Have you tried sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:06] <matt444> anyone have a link handy to a page that shows the new features?  there was one when gutsy released that was very nice.
[22:06] <whonicca> can someone put the official torrent file on some other hosting site =\
[22:06] <j_humphrey> maco: iwl3945 isnt working in hardy, but i know for a fact that ipw3945 worked in gutsy
[22:06] <Squirrely_Wrath> er...upgrade
[22:06] <rbs-tito> El1: Use "nvidia" as the driver name
[22:06] <_boikhutso_> does the server cd come with the ubuntu desktop packs ?
[22:06] <maco> j_humphrey: define "isn't working"
[22:06] <ais523> nahoj: if it is, is it marked as UP?
[22:06] <arbrandes> Scunizi, hmm, I seem to remember Skype depends on something KDE related.
[22:06] <fliegenderfrosch> Squirrely_Wrath: make sure "ubuntu-desktop" is installed
[22:06] <maco> j_humphrey: i havent found a use case where it fails on my laptop
[22:06] <ilembitov> Hi, all. Can anyone point me to GetDeb's apt repo, so that I could install those packages from Synaptics?
[22:06] <daemon3> How big is the Ubuntu ISO for Hardy?  I think I successfully torrented it, but I'm not sure.
[22:06] <ubuntuROX> it will fix it, I tried for an hour to force it to update, even downloaded the release,  but it was just a grub label error
[22:06] <j_humphrey> maco: I try to connect to the wireless, and it stalls
[22:06] <El1> rbs-tito: will try dpkg now, but when I select nvidia as the driver name it doesn't work.
[22:06] <GIn> how do you upgrade from rc to hardy?
[22:06] <rbs-tito> _boikhutso_: No. But oyu can grab ubuntu-desktop from the repositories after isntallation
[22:06] <arbrandes> Scunizi, I should have warned you, this will remove any and all KDE dependencies.
[22:06] <VeN0mizer> 699MB
[22:06] <fliegenderfrosch> Squirrely_Wrath: you probably have to remove the unused kubuntu-packages manually though
[22:06] <oddalot> anyone got the drivers for ati working on 8.04?
[22:06] <L815> daemon, probably around 680+mb
[22:06] <arbrandes> Scunizi, you'll have to reinstall those.
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> ilembitov, getdebs.net  ?
[22:06] <matt444> found one:  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[22:06] <VeN0mizer> oddalot: me
[22:06] <rbs-tito> El1: I can't suggest anything else, sorry.
[22:07] <maco> j_humphrey: using? network manager? network admin (the thing in sys -> adm -> net)? command line?
[22:07] <oddalot> veN0mizer: what did you do?
[22:07] <Squirrely_Wrath> fliegenderfrosch, K, thanks
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[22:07] <jtuttle> hey.
[22:07] <Scunizi> arbrandes: arbrandes I figured that at this point.. I'd planned on reinstalling what I actually needed on an individual basis.. like k3b
[22:07] <fliegenderfrosch> matt444: i love this page, it looks so shiny :)
[22:07] <ubuntuROX> EL1  did you see that?
[22:07] <j_humphrey> maco, the network manager doesnt work
[22:07] <smax> Help me. I've installed 8.04 on boot I see Error 21: Selected disk doesn't exist
[22:07] <El1> rbs-tito: thanks anyway for the help
[22:07] <arbrandes> Scunizi, yup, I remember having to reinstall that one too ;)
[22:07] <VeN0mizer> just checked enabled under restricted hardware and it fired right up after a reboot
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[22:07] <matt444> <fliegenderfrosch>  yeah, i love it too.
[22:07] <ubuntuROX> EL1 the solution to our issue from this morning.
[22:07] <_boikhutso_> rbs-tito: what about from the live-cd, will that be possible
[22:07] <maco> j_humphrey: are you using WEP? ive never gotten NM to do WEP with ipw or iwl
[22:07] <At0x0> I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 today, which replaced FF 2 with the beta of 3, which sucked. I removed 3 and re-installed 2 (2.0.0.14), but now every time I close FF it treats it like a crash and opens all the tabs I had open previously. Is this a bug or what?
[22:07] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Greetings. Where can I find the MD5 hash of Hardy? The Hashes page doesn't say.
[22:07] <oddalot> hmmm
[22:07] <nahoj> ais523, up broadcast running multicast.... ?
[22:07] <oddalot> k brb thanks
[22:07] <j_humphrey> maco, I'm using WEP
[22:08] <GIn> how do you upgrade from rc to hardy?
[22:08] <arbrandes> Scunizi, still, it's the price you pay to have a "pure gnome" installation, ehhehe
[22:08] <jtuttle> I'm running off the LiveCD.  I have a ThinkPad T61 with an nVidia Quadro NVS 140m.  I want to try the desktop effects; however, it says it can't enable them.  What do I need to do?
[22:08] <ais523> nahoj: that's what it's meant to say; do pings still fail?
[22:08] <ilembitov> Jack_Sparrow: How do I add it to Synaptics?
[22:08] <whonicca> for the love of god can someone upload the torrent file somewhere =\ directly to me even =(
[22:08] <matt444> does anyone know if the Hardy version of Evolution has a tray icon yet?  that's always been odd to me, how such a simple feature was missing.  alltray makes it bearable but it shouldn't have to be that way.
[22:08] <j_humphrey> maco, let me try again, so i'll be back
[22:08] <maco> j_humphrey: try connecting from network-admin and then running "sudo dhclient" in the terminal
[22:08]  * Rolcol is away: <Inserst Reason Here>
[22:08] <fliegenderfrosch> jtuttle: you probably have to install the binary driver in the hardware manager
[22:08] <El1> ubuntuROX:  oh so just waiting and keep trying will fix the issue?
[22:08] <arbrandes> whonicca, which torrent, the cd, the alternate cd, server, or dvd?
[22:08] <arbrandes> whonicca, or desktop?
[22:08] <dystopianray> jtuttle: you need to install the nvidia binary drivers for your card before compiz iwll work
[22:08] <maco> j_humphrey: thats the only way i can get ipw or iwl to do wep
[22:08] <rbs-tito> _boikhutso_: The live CD has all desktop packages, but no server packages
[22:08] <nahoj> ais523, should I ping for example 192.168.0.1 or what should I ping?
[22:08] <swuboo> Does anyone know why Synaptic suddenly wouldn't work?  I can't download any repository files or packages as of today.
[22:08] <ubuntuROX> L815 If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[22:08] <ubuntuROX> do that El1
[22:08] <whonicca> desktop/i386
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> ilembitov, you dont, you just go to their site and dl it
[22:08] <AaronMT> Traffic
[22:08] <Scunizi> arbrandes: done.. I"m almost afraid to reboot! :)
[22:08] <arbrandes> whonicca, they're all here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[22:08] <fliegenderfrosch> swuboo: servers are swamped
[22:08] <dexhu> I have 8.04 beta installed..how do I upgrde to the LTS version?
[22:08] <j_humphrey> maco: what does dhclient do?
[22:08] <whonicca> thanks
[22:08] <jtuttle> dystopianray: will it still work from the LiveCD?
[22:08] <ais523> nahoj: try your router first if you know its address
[22:08] <jharkn> swuboo: heavy server load
[22:08] <daemon3> swuboo: The Ubuntu server is overloaded.
[22:08] <maco> swuboo: because the release was today
[22:08] <VeN0mizer> one last time...FOR EVERYONE NOT BEING ABLE TO UPDATE UBUNTU DUE TO TIME-OUT USSUES...System->Admin->Software sources->Download from->Other->archive.ubuntu-rocks.org...OR ANOTHER....->Choose....there ya go ;) Update manager lives again with the latest updates and lightning fast too ;)
[22:08] <AaronMT> Change your server to the closest server in Sources
[22:08] <ubuntuROX> It is stable,, just grub needs to be updated
[22:08] <swuboo> Ah.
[22:09] <daemon3> swuboo: I can't upgrade either.
[22:09] <maco> j_humphrey: asks the router for an IP address
[22:09]  * whonicca hugs arbrandes 
[22:09] <dystopianray> jtuttle: yes, you just need to install the nvidia driver
[22:09] <arbrandes> Scunizi, lol, I know the feeling :) But if ubuntu-desktop is installed, you should be fine.
[22:09] <Scunizi> dexhu: just do your updates when prompted and you'll be ther.
[22:09] <jtuttle> dystopianray: which one?
[22:09] <arbrandes> whonicca, hehehe, you're welcome.
[22:09] <AaronMT> It'll ping all servers and you can pick the fastest one.
[22:09] <VeN0mizer> maybe that will help take _some_ load off of the servers :P
[22:09] <ilembitov> Jack_Sparrow: But is there any normal .deb mirror?
[22:09] <nahoj> ais523, yes, I think it is 192.168.0.1. that is what I write in the browser if I want to config it
[22:09] <fr500> are ubuntu servers slow today?
[22:09] <swuboo> daemon3:  I'm actually already upgraded, but I just swapped out my graphics card and I need the appropriate drivers.
[22:09] <_boikhutso_> rbs-tito: i meant to ask, after the server installation, can i use the live -cd to install the desktop
[22:09] <fliegenderfrosch> jtuttle: just use the ubuntu hardware manager, it will install it for you
[22:09] <fr500> archive.ubuntu.com is sloooooooooooooow
[22:09] <j_humphrey> thanks maco I'll go try it now
[22:09] <ais523> nahoj: the number you gave is a common one for a router, so try pinging it
[22:09] <daemon3> Has anyone downloaded the full Hardy ISO?  How big is it?
[22:09] <maco> fr500: of course
[22:09] <arbrandes> fr500, yes, they're all crawling
[22:09] <dystopianray> jtuttle: run the hardware device manager thing and it should be able to install the driver for you
[22:09] <VeN0mizer> daemon3: 699MB
[22:09] <jharkn> fr500:everyone is hitting it for the hardy release....
[22:09] <maco> fr500: its a release day.  they cant do anything but be slow and timeout
[22:09] <VeN0mizer> or do you mean DVD?
[22:10] <fr500> meh iĺl try a distant mirror
[22:10] <Jack_Sparrow> ilembitov, no
[22:10] <arbrandes> daemon, either 670 mb for the cd, or 3.7 Gb for the DVD
[22:10] <daemon3> VeN0mizer: Good I have the whole thing.  Thanks.
[22:10] <rbs-tito> _boikhutso_: ...You could get the debs off it, I guess, by adding the CD as a software source
[22:10] <El1> ubuntuROX: thx for the advice btw :-)
[22:10] <jtuttle> fliegenderfrosch: there's a hardware manager?  I know there's a "hardware drivers" preference panel, but it doesn't have anything listed in it.
[22:10] <fr500> thanks guys
[22:10] <fliegenderfrosch> daemon3: use md5sum to check if the download was complete
[22:10] <arbrandes> fr500, np
[22:10] <dakrone> has anyone managed to get VMwareTools running on 8.04 yet? None of the kernel drivers will compile for me
[22:10] <matt444> Not trying to stir the pot or anything.... but Canonical refused to put Pidgin in Feisty because they claimed it was still beta and had no features that GAIM didn't have.  But now they are putting a Firefox beta into Hardy?  That's hypocrisy right there.
[22:10] <ubuntuROX> I spent hours, a dev in release party knew what it was in 2 seconds.
[22:10] <fliegenderfrosch> jtuttle: i don't know the exact wording, as i don't use hardy yet
[22:11] <arbrandes> matt444, lol, I have to agree on that one
[22:11] <munkie> the firefox beta is so much better than the stable matt444
[22:11] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Where can I find Hardy's MD5 hash? The Ubuntu Hashes page doesn't say.
[22:11] <StealthCP> konqueror is not installable, causing problems with dependancies in apt.
[22:11] <StealthCP> http://pastebin.com/d7f68eff1
[22:11] <Seveas> matt444, gaim is supportable for the duration of an lts release, firefox2 not
[22:11] <El1> ubuntuROX: thank god you found it then :P
[22:11] <AaronMT> And it's Hardy Heron not Hardy Heroin.
[22:11] <Jack_Sparrow> matt444, Take the discussion/comments to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[22:11] <matt444> <arbrandes>  software favoritism.
[22:11] <StealthCP> How can I resolve the problem with installing konqueror?
[22:11] <ants> ugrading ubuntu won't get rid of my stuff right?
[22:11] <fliegenderfrosch> AaronMT: :)
[22:11] <matt444> <Jack_Sparrow>  thanks
[22:11] <arbrandes> ants, no, /home directories remains practically untouched.
[22:11] <lutz> grisar
[22:11] <nahoj> ais523, ok got the following result: 169.254.3.110 icmp seq=2 Destination Host unreachable" and so on
[22:11] <ompaul> ants,  always use backups anyway
[22:12] <arbrandes> ompaul, ants: yeah, always have backups, and always be prepared. :)
[22:12] <rbs-tito> matt444:  arbrandes: Our Mozilla team are confident that wew have made a stable release of firefox. Our beta is better than mozilla's beta because we merge changes made by ourselves and mozilla, and release them long before Mozilla manage it. Security and critical updates, if any are needed, will be delivered through update manager. Furthermore, Mozilla believe the FF£ beta is more stable than the FF2 release.
[22:12] <tanath> anyone have any idea why certain compiz keyboard shortcuts won't work?
[22:12] <jtuttle> fliegenderfrosch: I assume I'll have to restart X once it's installed?
[22:12] <ais523> nahoj: that's strange, it changed the IP that was the target; what IPs do you get when you run the route command?
[22:12] <fliegenderfrosch> jtuttle: yes
[22:12] <arbrandes> rbs-tito, matt444: alright, you convinced me.
[22:12] <ikonia> rbs-tito: who is "our mozilla team"
[22:12] <nahoj> ais523, what command?
[22:12] <jcdick1> I am going to be doing a migration on a server from OpenSuSE to Ubuntu server, and I was wondering about file equivalency between the two ...
[22:13] <lutz> Konversation terminated!
[22:13] <rbs-tito> ikonia: There are some mozilla devs
[22:13] <Spoom> hi folks, i'm trying to install eclipse here, add/remove programs says there are conflicts, and when i go to synaptic, it wants to remove metacity(!) and ubuntu-desktop to be able to install eclipse
[22:13] <Seveas> ikonia, asac and his buddies :)
[22:13] <tanath> the ones for the put plugin work, and rotating the cube, and such... but certain other ones don't
[22:13] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:13] <tjelvar> Good evening everybody, I would really appriciate some help with my asus laptop. Sound's always at max and no wlan (broadcom)
[22:13] <matt444> <rbs-tito>  i will respond to you in off-topic
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[22:13] <ais523> nahoj: route
[22:13] <tanath> even if i change them
[22:13] <ikonia> rbs-tito: yes but "our mozllia team" who is our ? ubuntu ?
[22:13] <arbrandes> tanath, I remember having some problems with that.
[22:13] <nahoj> ais523, just "route" ?
[22:13] <nick_> hi all - in 8.04 there are no restricted drivers listed for my laptop - why would the wireless driver have been removed from 7.10
[22:13] <MrBill> Might be a silly question... but online, why do i keep seeing Hardy and LTS together, when Gutsy doesn't seem to carry that designation?
[22:13] <ais523> nahoj: yes, it shows the routing table your computer has
[22:13] <Spoom> i've looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE and other places but none mention this issue specifically afact
[22:13] <Spoom> afaict*
[22:13] <ikonia> nick_: your using the desktop version I take it
[22:13] <nick_> ikonia: yes
[22:14] <rbs-tito> ikonia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam Yes, Ubuntu devs working on Mozilla projects.
[22:14] <Spoom> anyone have any idea why it wants to remove metacity just to be able to install eclipse?
[22:14] <ubuntuROX> its a long term support version
[22:14] <cherva> can someone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64281/
[22:14] <tanath> arbrandes, i think i had this problem when upgrading to gutsy too, but don't remember how i fixed it
[22:14] <abad> I'm trying to upgrade to 8.04 through the update manager but the update manager just freezes up, can anyone help me out here?
[22:14] <ubuntuROX> gutsy was a regular release.
[22:14] <jtmonz> strange problem... can anyone else not mount the cd after installation? i'm trying to apt-cdrom it, which failes, so i sudo mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom and it reads the cdrom but fails to mount
[22:14] <jtuttle> Is there a proper way to restart (besides hitting Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)?
[22:14] <ikonia> rbs-tito: ok, so you mean the ubuntu mozilla developers
[22:14] <VeN0mizer> abad: System->Admin->Software sources->Download from->Other->archive.ubuntu-rocks.org->Choose....there ya go ;) Update manager lives again with the latest updates
[22:14] <tjelvar> Anyone having problem with volume on asus laptop? (I have)
[22:14] <fliegenderfrosch> abad: probably due to the overloaded servers
[22:14] <ineti> can i use the pacifica or vanderpool features on a 32bit ubuntu with xen, or do i require a 64bit kernel?
[22:14] <ikonia> nick_: which card is it ?
[22:14] <rbs-tito> ikonia: Yes, but there are more than just devs in the team I believe.
[22:14] <tanath> jtuttle, restart x? you can log out
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> cherva, Please do not post just a link, give the short version of your problem as well
[22:14] <vanzemaljac> yoo
[22:14] <nick_> ikonia: is there a way i could download restricted drivers - when i installed 7.10 the wilress driver was there
[22:14] <arbrandes> tanath, lol, me neither.  Eventually I gave up on compiz.  Will try again with Hardy.
[22:14] <ikonia> rbs-tito: I'm sure
[22:14] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: HIIIII!!
[22:14] <nick_> ikonia: intel 3945
[22:14] <jcdick1> In SuSE, I have shadow, passwd, group, shadow ... if I copy those off and then put them into the new Ubuntu server /etc, will Ubuntu know about users and groups?
[22:14] <StealthCP> konqueror is not installable, causing problems with dependancies in apt.
[22:14] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: do I know you ?
[22:14] <StealthCP> http://pastebin.com/d7f68eff1
[22:14] <AaronMT> I have no use for bluetooth, anyone know how to completely turn off bluetooth services.
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[22:14] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: last nite i found links with u inn ittt lol talking
[22:14] <StealthCP> How can I resolve the problem with installing konqueror?
[22:15] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: nah ive got help from u from another nick
[22:15] <matt444> geez, torrents aren't much faster than the servers.
[22:15] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: but you are popular! :)
[22:15] <tanath> arbrandes, heh, i didn't. i hate not using compiz
[22:15] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: where you in as coco or something like that ?
[22:15] <matt444> only 66kb here ;(
[22:15] <cherva> Jack_Sparrow: I'm trying to update after a cdrom upgrade and this is what comes out .... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64281/
[22:15] <gnubie> 8.04amd64, fresh install using existing /home. When I try to create a previous user I am told the directory already exists and asks me to create a new one. unbunut has not done this b4.
[22:15] <nahoj> ais523, well.. got a few rows of text... the only ip's I could see was 255.255.0.0 and 0.0.0.0
[22:15] <maco> when the minimum speed Nautilus CD Burner offers for burning at is 9x and you use it, how do you follow its instructions to try burning at a lower speed after the burn fails?
[22:15] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: coko yeahhh how u know yo? lol u a genious
[22:15] <may> heyho
[22:15] <K4k-laptop> ompaul, a point of information from before, I did some digging it looks like Audacious is the new xmms, even though it's just a gtk2.0 fork
[22:15] <tanath> i'm trying to tile some windows, but the shortcuts won't work
[22:15] <DBautell> the DVD torrents seem to be getting slower all the time
[22:15] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: one time talking.. u already remember my ... lsjafl
[22:15] <Jack_Sparrow> cherva, the servers are overloaded due to the release of hardy.. expect delays
[22:15] <ais523> nahoj: OK, it seems that the routing tables are wrong on your system
[22:15] <arbrandes> tanath: I had problems with running other OpenGL apps, like Google Earth, that's why I stopped using it.
[22:16] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: I'm sorry I don't recall
[22:16] <arbrandes> DBautell, same here.  We need more seeders.
[22:16] <tanath> arbrandes, hmm... i just tried that earlier, and i can barely run it too
[22:16] <ais523> nahoj: go to the network configuration tool, and make sure that the 'gateway' value is set to your router's IP
[22:16] <abad> Has anyone else had any trouble with there update managers freezing while trying to upgrade?
[22:16] <Spoom> is there any more info i can give to help solve this problem?  i've been looking around myself and a few places suggest just compiling it locally in my home dir, but that seems a weird way of getting around the issue
[22:16] <arbrandes> tanath: yeah, I judged GE was more important than compiz, so... :)
[22:16] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: cokolina :)
[22:16] <tanath> arbrandes, it's the only one i've had trouble with so far.
[22:16] <VeN0mizer> abad: already answered that
[22:16] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: i asked about which ubuntu member :)
[22:16] <cherva> Jack_Sparrow: do you think Failed to fetch is a delay ?
[22:16] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: I don't recall, sorry
[22:16] <tanath> arbrandes, really? i don't really see the big deal with google earth... i get the same stuff in google maps...
[22:16] <VeN0mizer> abad: Ubuntu servers are overloaded, try selecting a different mirror
[22:16] <abad> VeN0mizer:  I was asking if anyone else had it...
[22:16] <ais523> abad: yes, and it was a real pain to fix, I got lots of errors beforehand though, most people have had that for a different reason which has already been explained repeatedly
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[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> cherva, yep.. it timed out
[22:17] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: hehe its ok :) i got it all working i wanted to know if there was somthing i can bring that ubutnu partition up on windows.. while im in windows bring that up.. anything like that?
[22:17] <cherva> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:17] <sidewalk> hey guys
[22:17] <arbrandes> tanath: well, I'm kind of a GE junkie.  Google maps are good and all, but I like spinning the globe.  Always did. :)
[22:17] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: there is an ext3 driver for windows but I don't advise using it
[22:17] <ora> salut les gars
[22:17] <abad> ais523:  can you tell me where I can find the info?
[22:17] <ora> j'aime les frites
[22:17] <sidewalk> i tried upgrading my machine and it went k0k0
[22:17] <ikonia> !fr | ora
[22:17] <ubotu> ora: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:17] <tanath> arbrandes, haha... have you played with celestia?
[22:17] <arbrandes> ikonia, vanzemaljac: I don't advise using it either.  Gave me problems.
[22:18] <sidewalk> my box tells me to run dpkg --configure -a
[22:18] <janjokela> Hello, I have a nvidia card but the restricted driver doesn't work. It shows as enabled but says "Not in use". disabling and enabling asks for restart but doesnt do it
[22:18] <sidewalk> but that doesnt work, it tell me
[22:18] <ais523> abad: go to software sources in system|administration, then select other from the dropdown and click on the button to scan for the best source, many of them are overloaded right now
[22:18] <sidewalk> dpkg: too many errors, stopping
[22:18] <nahoj> ais523, should it still be set on "roaming mode"?
[22:18] <sidewalk> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252: process_queue: Assertion `!queuelen' failed.
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[22:18] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[22:18] <fliegenderfrosch> sidewalk: but you do use "sudo"?
[22:18] <abad> ais523:  ok, let me try that..
[22:18] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: wont work
[22:18] <arbrandes> tanath: I've been meaning to for some time now, just haven't gotten around to it.  Yeah, I'm a "spinning the skies" junkie, too. :)
[22:18] <vanzemaljac> ikonia arbrandes any other way?
[22:18] <DrX> I've got an IBM hardware RAID controller and I'm thinking the RAID software will allow me to expand volumes so that I can use a time-tested easy to troubleshoot file system like ext3 without LVM... is that a safe assumption?
[22:18] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: not really
[22:18] <sidewalk> fliegenderfrosch: yes
[22:18] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: wm ware?
[22:18] <ais523> nahoj: it depends on the configuration of your router, try both ways
[22:18] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: well, you could load it as a vm, but thats loading it within an OS
[22:18] <ubuntuROX> could do a manual install or look in synaptic for a different nvidia driver if the cards old..
[22:19] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: you'd be dependant on y our host allowing access to the vm file systems
[22:19] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: thats what i want
[22:19] <ugeeku> !tcl
[22:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tcl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:19] <tanath> arbrandes, it's a bit weird to control at first, but is fun when you get the hang of it :)
[22:19] <ugeeku> How can I install TCL on ubuntu? (needed for eggdrop)
[22:19] <ugeeku> How can I install TCL on ubuntu? (needed for eggdrop)
[22:19] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: i want ubuntu to be within windows.. runing windows and ubuntu up
[22:19] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: I'm sorry, I can't remember what I was helping you with
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[22:19] <ikonia> ugeeku: it's normally installed by default
[22:19] <vanzemaljac> ikonia: windows prime
[22:19] <ora> salut
[22:19] <ora> sa farte ?
[22:19] <AaronMT> I have no use for bluetooth, anyone know how to completely turn off bluetooth services.
[22:19] <nick_> ikonia: is there a way to download more restricted drivers?
[22:19] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: i got nothing with rausb1/0 in interfaces ans also no modules for that driver in lsmod
[22:19] <ugeeku> ikonia: It says it can't find it, when I go to compile eggdrop
[22:19] <ugeeku> ...
[22:19] <ora> vous faites quoi
[22:19] <ikonia> vanzemaljac: same as I just said
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[22:19] <ScarEye> Hey guys I just downloaded Kubuntu with KDE4 is there a way I can installed like VNC Server or something ?
[22:19] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: wusb54g
[22:19] <ora> you speak french little plz
[22:19] <arbrandes> tanath: thanks for the recomendation, I think I'll try it just as soon as I can get this damn Hardy up and running.
[22:19] <ikonia> ugeeku: you need the development libraries
[22:19] <tanath> ugeeku, you can find it in synaptic
[22:19] <Jaymac> !fr | ora
[22:19] <ubotu> ora: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[22:19] <ikonia> !fr | ora
[22:20] <ora> yes ?
[22:20] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: Oh right, that didn't work?
[22:20] <Zicks> can someone tell me why emerald wont change themes ?
[22:20] <ora> Quoi Jaymac ?
[22:20] <ora> Et ikonia ?
[22:20] <fliegenderfrosch> Zicks: is it running?
[22:20] <tanath> arbrandes, what's the problem?
[22:20] <ora> vous voulez des mi chocos ?
[22:20] <ikonia> ora: this channel is english only
[22:20] <maco> Zicks: emerald is dead
[22:20] <Zelta> Zicks: Choose a theme and restart your computer (or just X)
[22:20] <_boikhutso_> does anyone know of any channel where i can get help on borland c++ builder
[22:20] <Zicks> yes but it wont change any themes
[22:20] <ikonia> ora: #ubuntu-fr for french
[22:20] <maco> ora: #ubuntu-fr
[22:20] <Jaymac> ora tappes: /j #ubuntu-fr cette chaine est seulement pour la discussion en anglais
[22:20] <Zicks> already did restart x
[22:20] <ikonia> _boikhutso_: we don't discuss warez
[22:20] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: i have two wifi-cards, this usb thing and a pci-card
[22:20] <ora> .j #ubuntu-fr
[22:20] <Zelta> Zicks: When you restart, you will be able to change themes
[22:20] <arbrandes> tanath, the servers are slow, and the DVD torrent is slow, so it's taking a while to get the packages. lol
[22:20] <Zelta> Then restart your computer
[22:20] <Zelta> Not just X
[22:20] <maco> ora: ne parlez pas francais...um...here
[22:20] <DBautell> _boikhutso_, ##c++ , and if not, they'll redirect you
[22:21] <TheTaylorEffect> Happy 8.04 Day everyone!
[22:21] <tanath> _boikhutso_, #c++ perhaps?
[22:21] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: You might have a bettter chance with the pci
[22:21] <Zicks> also where do i find screens and graphics in hardy., i want to change monitor settings
[22:21] <ora> ok thanks
[22:21] <arbrandes> Hehhee, same to you, TheTaylorEffect
[22:21] <ora> bye
[22:21] <_boikhutso_> ikonia: what is warez?
[22:21]  * gaurish is getting nice speeds on Torrents
[22:21] <ugeeku> tanath: What's the command to install it via. terminal?
[22:21] <ikonia> _boikhutso_: illegal software
[22:21] <osmosis> why is the AMD64 release in the topic. That doesnt support flash.
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[22:21] <tanath> arbrandes, weird that the torrent is slow..
[22:21] <TheTaylorEffect> :)
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[22:21] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: when i type ifconfig the wusb dont pops up
[22:21] <ikonia> osmosis: it does
[22:21] <nexano> anyone ever use xmms2 + esperanza over network? im having trouble connecting
[22:21] <evilbug> can i upgrade to 8.04 from a cd or do i have to do it directly from update manager?
[22:21] <tanath> ugeeku, depends. there's different versions
[22:21] <osmosis> ikonia: it does?
[22:21] <ugeeku> tanath: latest?
[22:21] <osmosis> ikonia: since when ?
[22:21] <ikonia> osmosis: yes
[22:21] <arbrandes> tanath, the other ones are pretty speedy, it's just the DVD.  Needs more seeds, I guess.
[22:21] <_boikhutso_> ikonia: lol, illegal, an in not open ?
[22:21] <ikonia> osmosis: in various guises for a long time
[22:21] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: i need both, connected to two different access-points... :)
[22:21] <osmosis> ikonia: any reason to stay with i386 then ?
[22:21] <tanath> ugeeku, you might try 'sudo aptitude install tcl8.5'
[22:21] <ikonia> osmosis: not having flash doesn't make it not releasable
[22:21] <dany_21a> where can i find gnome-compiz-manager under hardy? (or what shall i use to configure compiz under KDE?)
[22:22] <arbrandes> evilbug, you can, from the alternate cd or from the dvd.
[22:22] <ikonia> osmosis: thats up to you
[22:22] <tanath> arbrandes, ah
[22:22]  * compbrain points to http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/
[22:22] <Bender1337> does ubuntu have a gui for dialup
[22:22] <osmosis> ikonia: so I have to try it and find the bugs on my own.
[22:22] <Zicks> where do i find screens and graphics in hardy., i want to change monitor settings
[22:22] <ikonia> _boikhutso_: you have to pay for borland products, so channels to get it = illegal
[22:22] <Jaymac> dany84_at: compizconfig-settings-manager or something
[22:22] <jharkn> osmosis: I installed mine just via firefox prompting for it
[22:22] <ikonia> osmosis: no
[22:22] <cool> tanath, try Desktop install CD, i am downoad 64bit version, 1k seeds & 500 leachers
[22:22] <osmosis> Zicks: dunno...guess they took that out.
[22:22] <evilbug> arbrandes- so the main desktop cd doesn't work to update?
[22:22] <fliegenderfrosch> Bender1337: install gnome-ppp
[22:22] <tanath> dany_21a, you can't find it in synaptic?
[22:22] <nahoj> ais523, well, I have to set it to "static IP" to change the gateway, right?
[22:22] <eZe> what's the quickest way to check if a port is open?
[22:22] <arbrandes> evilbug, not really, no
[22:22] <TheTaylorEffect> I am seeding all of the 8.04 Desktop ISOs
[22:22] <adamorjames_> happy hardy day DinCahill , tyranos and all the otehr ppl joining the chan
[22:22] <arbrandes> evilbug, at least not in any user friendly way.
[22:22] <Zicks> i reboot thanks for your help
[22:22] <adamorjames_> *other
[22:22] <TheTaylorEffect> You should all do the same if you have the bandwidth
[22:22] <tanath> dany_21a, or, you mean to run? try 'ccsm'
[22:22] <dany_21a> tanath: nope... the pack. existed in ubuntu-1 ... its gone in hardy
[22:23] <jimcooncat> I can't eject my usb stick, how do I find what processes are using it?
[22:23] <cool> eZe, Utorrent Port checker
[22:23] <Bender1337> fliegenderfrosch: can i install that over a flash drive
[22:23] <osmosis> How do I get dual screens working with  nvidia_new?  What is nvidia_new anyways ?
[22:23] <DinCahill> hi. im on the hardy livecd and it wont detect my IDE hard drives but it will detect my SATA ones
[22:23] <ikonia> TheTaylorEffect: this is a support channel, we don't need a lecture on being good seeders
[22:23] <dany_21a> tanath: ah... thx !
[22:23] <ais523> nahoj: yes, and you have to decide on an IP within your own network for your own computer; roaming mode means it asks the router for its IP and settings automatically
[22:23] <_boikhutso_> ikonia: you are saying i got it illegaly or....?
[22:23] <DinCahill> i want to install on my ide drive
[22:23] <evilbug> arbrandes- thanks!do you think the torrent .iso will be faster than the direct download?
[22:23] <tyranos> are the intel core 2 duo x86_64 or 32 ????
[22:23] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: I'm sorry, I can't really suggest anything else. Except, perhaps, blacklisting the ralink module and using ndiswrapper
[22:23] <TheTaylorEffect> LOL!
[22:23] <ikonia> _boikhutso_: lets stop discussing this
[22:23] <fliegenderfrosch> Bender1337: how do you mean "over a flash drive"?
[22:23] <eZe> cool, and what if i dont have utorrent installed? ;)
[22:23] <arbrandes> evilbug, MUCH faster.
[22:23]  * Rolcol is back (gone 00:15:10)
[22:23] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: is it possible that i need to set an alias for that device in modprobe? thats the way i know it from redhat :)
[22:23] <MilitantPotato> Hey all, Hardy is detecting my PATA drive as a SDA, in gutsy it was HAD  Is this something to be concerned about?
[22:23] <evilbug> arbrandes- thanks!
[22:23] <priman> what file system should i have on my ubuntu primary partition?
[22:23] <dettoaltrimenti> ok I can't figure this out- I installed b43-fwcutter, but my network controller is bcm4328: do I need to install another driver before installing b43-fwcutter?
[22:23] <TheTaylorEffect> Sorry... I'm just excited!
[22:23] <ais523> nahoj: actually, I think what may be the problem is that roaming mode is correct but the router isn't telling your computer the settings for some reason
[22:23] <ikonia> osmosis: you can configure xinerama or twinview, your call
[22:23] <DinCahill> tyranos: x64
[22:23] <_boikhutso_> ikonia: ok, was just confused
[22:24] <ghdkkdk> ext2 or ext3
[22:24] <tyranos> thx
[22:24] <Liquidy> DinCahill: boot with "pci=nommconf"
[22:24] <arbrandes> evilbug, I have to recommend the DVD torrent, though, because then there will be fewer packages that might need to be updated from the internet.
[22:24] <MilitantPotato> HAD*
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[22:24] <osmosis> ikonia: twinview is crashing
[22:24] <tanath> dany_21a, the ccsm package is 'compizconfig-settings-manager'
[22:24] <DinCahill> ok thanks liquidy
[22:24] <ais523> priman: use ext3
[22:24] <tyranos> is that the reason y flashnonfree is giving me the md5 mismatch error
[22:24] <priman> does ntfs work?
[22:24] <Bender1337> fliegenderfrosch: download from another compurter then install it on the computer that needs it from the flash drive
[22:24] <maco> where can i get *real* cdrecord instead of wodim?
[22:24] <DBautell> priman, yes
[22:24] <cool> eZe, does not matter. www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=<replace post value>
[22:24] <MoLE_> MilitantPotato, No nothing to be concerned about
[22:25] <fliegenderfrosch> Bender1337: should work
[22:25] <osmosis> for some reason  nvidia-glx wasnt included
[22:25] <nahoj> ais523, yeah, seems like that... my router is showing my computer in the browserconfigurator
[22:25] <dany_21a> tanath: thx for the hint, long ago that i used compiz
[22:25] <MilitantPotato> MoLE_: Ok, thanks
[22:25] <fliegenderfrosch> Bender1337: maybe there are some dependencies that you would have to download as well
[22:25] <ikonia> osmosis: that may not be the right packge fo you
[22:25] <priman> will it be much better with ext3 than ntfs?
[22:25] <eZe> ty cool
[22:25] <osmosis> ikonia: do you use nvidia_new
[22:25] <GIn> how do you upgrade from rc to hardy?
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[22:25] <AaronMT> !swfdec
[22:25] <idyllic> hi, there is no 'custom effect' option in System - Preference - Visual Effects, even though i installed compizconfig-settings-manager. I'm on Ubuntu 8.04
[22:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swfdec - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:25] <Ratshell> Is anyone else having issues with the us.archive.ubunut.com? where it just hangs at this 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.46)]
[22:25] <ikonia> osmosis: depends on what machine
[22:25] <GIn> !update
[22:25] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:25] <ikonia> osmosis: some machines I do
[22:25] <ais523> nahoj: in that case, I'm stuck; I don't know all that much about routers and roaming mode
[22:25] <cool> priman, In terms of support, as EXT3 is native file format for Ubuntu
[22:25] <arbrandes> Ratshell, all of us.  The servers are bogged.
[22:26] <priman> ok, thx, i'll go for ext3
[22:26] <nahoj> ais523, ok. thanks alot for the help anyway, rellay nice of you =)
[22:26] <osmosis> ikonia: its strange behavior.  Default config at install is  nvidia_new is installed, but does Not enables, even though it is checked.
[22:26] <Ratshell> arbrandes ahh okay thx, just thought it was me but now I realize its there broke servers :)
[22:26] <oddalot> bah, does anyone know how to install the nvidia video drivers manually, it won't let me download them from the hardware drivers menu
[22:26] <oddalot> ?
[22:26] <arbrandes> Ratshell, yup
[22:26] <AaronMT> Oh jeez, swfdec is alot more unstable than adobe's
[22:26] <docgnome> Ratshell: that's why I'm going to wait a few days before doing an upgrade
[22:26] <ikonia> osmosis: default config for "you" is nvidia_new, probably because detection believes that is the right package for you
[22:26] <At0x0> Did anyone else notice some of their fonts get hosed after upgrading to 8.04?
[22:26] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: I'm not sure, sorry.
[22:26] <jharkn> oddalot: you can try envy
[22:26] <adamorjames_> happy hardy day dsch04, boolka and all the other ppl joining the chan
[22:26] <tyranos> Oddalot try envy it works well
[22:26] <oddalot> what is envy?
[22:26] <osmosis> ikonia: wow, really? thanks.
[22:27] <arbrandes> adamorjames_, same to you!
[22:27] <tanath> idyllic, you sure compiz is installed?
[22:27] <boolka> lol thanks
[22:27] <jharkn> oddalot: an app that installs for you automatically
[22:27] <adamorjames_> :D
[22:27] <tyranos> google it , a tool that installs nvidia and ati proprietary drivers
[22:27] <oddalot> k thanks
[22:27] <livingdaylight> does FF3 have issues with java?
[22:27] <osmosis> ikonia: see  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4607491
[22:27] <cryptolife> envy
[22:28] <dsch04> Quick question: Does the alternate install CD run as a live CD like the Desktop CD ?
[22:28] <adamorjames_> For me FF3 has big font... maybe an nVIDIA problem...
[22:28] <arbrandes> dsch04, no
[22:28] <Crazyguy> dsch04, no
[22:28] <oddalot> is envy installed by default?
[22:28] <Abd> livingdaylight possibly, because it's still beta
[22:28] <arbrandes> dsch04, only the DVD does both.
[22:28] <jharkn> oddalot: no
[22:28] <sidewalk> i get dependency problem
[22:28] <sidewalk> dpkg: error processing libglademm-2.4-1c2a (--configure):
[22:28] <tanath> livingdaylight, mine works fine
[22:28] <cryptolife> apt-get install gtk envy
[22:28] <tanath> livingdaylight, though i'm using swiftfox...
[22:28]  * dsch04 looks in topic for torrent location for DVD
[22:28] <tyranos> i need help
[22:28] <j_humphrey> maco: dhlcient didnt work
[22:28] <docgnome> tyranos: with?
[22:28] <livingdaylight> tanath, can you check gokgs.com and tell me whether applet starts?
[22:28] <arbrandes> dsch04: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[22:28] <Liquidy> tyranos: with?
[22:28] <ikonia> osmosis: thats user error on (in my opinion) of poster
[22:28] <Assid> err.. i got a ati radeon mobility 9000.. i used to use compiz during the alpha releases..
[22:29] <livingdaylight> tanath, swiftfox?
[22:29] <matt444> mc44:  i take that back.  6.0.1 is fine.  it was the previous version that stunk.
[22:29] <j_humphrey> maco:  heres the output of dhclient: http://pastebin.com/m24ab6500
[22:29] <tyranos> flash non free on gutsy 32 but on a core 2 duo
[22:29] <ceil420> how long does it usually take for the new ubuntu version to be attainable from update-manager?
[22:29] <Assid> however now it doesnt work.. can someone help me please
[22:29] <dsch04> arbrandes: Got it. Leeching now
[22:29] <matt444> they must have just upgraded the repository version.  because i'm using 6.0.1 that i had to manually install.
[22:29] <tanath> livingdaylight, it's and optimized build of firefox for linux. getswiftfox.com
[22:29] <chaqui> ok guys
[22:29]  * x1250 wants intrepid ibex, when will the repos be available?
[22:29] <sidewalk> shit i need help guys
[22:29] <arbrandes> ceil420, you mean, after the servers aren't so bogged down? Dunno, a few days?
[22:29] <dsch04> I'n outta here - it's mad!!!
[22:29] <osmosis> ikonia: not to be rude, but such an accusation without explanation, seems like trolling.
[22:29] <ikonia> x1250: they are
[22:29] <arbrandes> dsch04, np
[22:29] <ais523> sidewalk: what's the problem?
[22:29] <sidewalk> my dist-upgrade went k0k0
[22:29] <chaqui> this is the easiest question all day
[22:29] <chaqui> ready?
[22:29] <sidewalk>   Package libpango1.0-0 is not configured yet.
[22:29] <Liquidy> tyranos: be more specific
[22:29] <sidewalk> dpkg: error processing libglademm-2.4-1c2a (--configure):
[22:29] <dsch04> Thx for the help
[22:29] <tanath> livingdaylight, go applet doesn't appear to be working
[22:29] <maco> j_humphrey: pm me the output of iwconfig
[22:29] <sidewalk> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:252: process_queue: Assertion `!queuelen' failed.
[22:29] <x1250> ikonia: great, thanks.
[22:29] <chaqui> how do i find out my ip address
[22:30] <chaqui> :-[
[22:30] <_moro_bana_> im trying to add the server cd with apt-cdrom add, giving me permission denied, help
[22:30] <arbrandes> dsch04, a pleasure :)
[22:30] <ceil420> arbrandes, i mean until it stops telling me that i'm up to date and won't even offer the download :x i'd take it at 20kb/s
[22:30] <ScarEye> chaqui: ifconfig
[22:30] <j_humphrey> maco: I dont have that
[22:30] <livingdaylight> tanath, it was in gutsy in previous ff, so....
[22:30] <ScarEye> in konsole
[22:30] <dsch04> You never know, I *might* switch from Fedora ;)
[22:30] <dystopianray> chaqui: your internalnetwork ip? or your external internet ip?
[22:30] <arbrandes> ceil420, it should be available now
[22:30] <ceil420> maybe i should update apt :o
[22:30] <tv3SkUrt> I must say that ati radeon video overlay support in linux is a disaster neither totem or vlc works with ati video overlay only xine works.
[22:30] <osmosis> ikonia: btw...the article isnt one poster...its 3 separate people having the same issue.
[22:30] <arbrandes> ceil420, the problem might be that the servers are so bogged down that you're not getting the latest version of update-manager.
[22:30] <ikonia> osmosis: not really, it looks like the origional poster has not understood the nvidia packges, in that there is no driver to be loaded, or there is a problem with the nvidia-new acting as a meta package for nvidia_glx/new_glx
[22:30] <maco> j_humphrey: yes you do
[22:30] <j_humphrey> maco: but i did connect to the wireless AP, but I had a 0% connection  strength
[22:30] <tv3SkUrt> i spent a whole day to fix the problems.
[22:30] <HayHay> Hi, Is the the channel #ubuntu+1 for Hardy Heron still working?
[22:30] <chaqui> inteneral network
[22:30] <ceil420> arbrandes, bah, knew i shoulda got the RC a few days ago ><
[22:30] <nohelphere> the xserver xrashing error I wonder if it's been fixed...
[22:31] <_moro_bana_> dystopianray: what if i want the exteranal
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[22:31] <maco> j_humphrey: so there's 0% strength when you see the router, and the router doesn't respond when you talk to it?
[22:31] <tanath> livingdaylight, it works for me in epiphany. try that
[22:31] <maco> j_humphrey: that sounds like the router
[22:31] <ceil420> HayHay, i think it's for Ignorant Iguana, or whatever the 'i' alliteration is
[22:31] <j_humphrey> maco: I would have to restart my computer and log into ubuntu to get iwconfig
[22:31] <fliegenderfrosch> HayHay: no, this is the channel for hardy now
[22:31] <x1250> HayHay: nope, hardy is now in #ubuntu
[22:31] <arbrandes> ceil420, well, there are lotsa RC folks complaining that they can't get the release version for the same reason, so... :)
[22:31] <tanath> livingdaylight, epiphany-browser
[22:31] <osmosis> ikonia: well, I installed nvidia-glx-new as well, and it fixed the error msg and made my 3d work.
[22:31] <maco> j_humphrey: did you just dhclient from windows?
[22:31] <arbrandes> ceil420, I recommend getting the DVD torrent and upgrading from it: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrentW
[22:31] <livingdaylight> tanath, ok... thank you
[22:31] <arbrandes> ceil420, or rather: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[22:31] <fliegenderfrosch> ceil420: its intrepid ibex :)
[22:31] <ceil420> arbrandes, i'd be happy with RC; all i really wanna do is update libconfuse so i can install awesome wm :x
[22:31] <ikonia> osmosis: yes, that will do as the nvidia_glx packages contain the drivers
[22:31] <j_humphrey> maco: no, i logged into ubuntu and dhcliented
[22:31] <oddalot> so what is the main difference in hardy from gutsy?
[22:31] <oddalot> i don't see any difference
[22:31] <ceil420> arbrandes, also, i don't have a dvd drive
[22:31] <dystopianray> _moro_bana_: www.whatismyip.com
[22:31] <mwe> apt-get keeps telling me firefox was automatically installed and is no longer required. How can I tell apt I want to keep firefox so it stops suggesting me to remove it?
[22:32] <j_humphrey> maco: but since i dont have internet on ubuntu, i have to log into windows
[22:32] <ikonia> oddalot: thats a good thing
[22:32] <maco> j_humphrey: there's no wired internet around?
[22:32] <tyranos> liquidy , i m trying to install flash on gutsy 32 on a 64 bit machine , but apt-get gives me a md5 size mismatch  at the end and says flash not installed
[22:32] <ceil420> oddalot, you can actually update packages with each release
[22:32] <arbrandes> ceil420, no need for a DVD drive.  Just get the iso and mount it via loop device.
[22:32] <osmosis> ikonia: twinview still isnt working though
[22:32] <ikonia> oddalot: why would gnome "look" different, it's a minor update
[22:32] <j_humphrey> maco: it would be difficult
[22:32] <fliegenderfrosch> oddalot: mainly new versions of most software
[22:32] <HayHay> x1250: Thanks - didn't know it changed - umm - Just when you think you got it all figurede out - Grin  : )
[22:32] <ceil420> arbrandes, no room for a dvd iso :x
[22:32] <ikonia> osmosis: twinview = poor in my opinion, twinview + compiz = very poor in my view
[22:32] <oddalot> so why the need for a name change?
[22:32] <nohelphere> do you think the  x server restarting issue wa sfixed?
[22:32] <XATRIX> hi....what Login manager ubuntu using by default ?
[22:32] <j_humphrey> maco: but if there is something i can do while wired to fix wireless, then i can get wired for a few
[22:32] <arbrandes> ceil420, then again, you could always upgrade from the alternate cd torrent.  It's there, too: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[22:32] <_moro_bana_> dystopianray: using the net, i know that, i thought there would be something on ubuntu to do that
[22:32] <ceil420> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:32] <ceil420> /dev/sda1              18G   14G  3.2G  82% /
[22:32] <maco> j_humphrey: ok well here's what i do when i have to do wireless
[22:32] <fliegenderfrosch> XATRIX: gdm
[22:32] <osmosis> ikonia: huh? worked perfectly in gutsy
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[22:32] <nohelphere> it was quite annoying
[22:32] <ikonia> osmosis: why is that a measure ?
[22:33] <ikonia> osmosis: your on a new os, 1 day old, with new drivers
[22:33] <nohelphere> oh though it's been released
[22:33] <maco> j_humphrey: sudo iwlist scan
[22:33] <XATRIX> fliegenderfrosch> what theme does it use ? i want to set such a theme in gentoo
[22:33] <nohelphere> so it's probably fixed
[22:33] <nexano>  anyone ever used esperanza along with xmms2? im having
[22:33] <nexano>                    trouble connecting to my other computer via esperanza >:|
[22:33] <dystopianray> _moro_bana_: it depends on your network setup, it's not trivial
[22:33] <arbrandes> ceil420, beware that there might be packages that need to be downloaded from the net, if using the alternate cd.  That's what I'm doing, by the way.
[22:33] <nexano> oO
[22:33] <tanath> arbrandes, you can install ubuntu from a mounted image? o.O
[22:33] <maco> j_humphrey: then thatll show all available networks and you can see what your wireless card is called.  mine's wlan0
[22:33] <ceil420> XATRIX, Gnome's "Human" theme, unless they've changed it
[22:33] <ffm_> maco, !!!!
[22:33] <j_humphrey> mine is wlan0 as well, maco
[22:33] <arbrandes> tanath: yes, that's what I'm doing.  well, actually, no, I'm upgrading. :)
[22:33] <billisnice> does this release work with dvd's out of the box?
[22:33] <fliegenderfrosch> XATRIX: not sure about the new ubuntu version, just search for "human" on gnome-look and you should find something
[22:33] <nohelphere> can I see some release notes?
[22:33] <j_humphrey> maco: it used to be eth1 in gutsy though
[22:33] <tanath> arbrandes, how would you do that?
[22:33] <xfroggy> my partitions on desktop show up by the volume sizes instead of names like it was previously, any way to change this?
[22:33] <_moro_bana_> im trying to add the server cd with apt-cdrom add, giving me permission denied, help
[22:33] <lopin> Are there any problems installing with the torrented iso?
[22:33] <ScarEye> So I guess repos are down or loaded with traffic ?  Cause I cannot apt-get install openssh-server
[22:34] <ceil420> arbrandes, i don't wanna fight with it, i'll just wait for a nice 'n' easy update-manager download :p if apt-get update will hurry up :x
[22:34] <maco> j_humphrey: then: sudo iwconfig essid "mywirelessnetwork" key "ABCDEF12345"
[22:34] <fliegenderfrosch> ScarEye: true
[22:34] <lopin> Like is it going to get packages that can't be gotten to due to the rush?
[22:34] <maco> j_humphrey: so that "mywirelessnetwork" matches whatever your router is called
[22:34] <osmosis> ikonia: "twinview = poor in my opinio"  you mean  twinview on hardy is poor then.
[22:34] <maco> j_humphrey: and the ABCD... thing is where your WEP key goes
[22:34] <fliegenderfrosch> ScarEye: you could use a different mirror though
[22:34] <arbrandes> tanath: If you mean upgrade, just get the alternate cd or dvd, pop it in / mount it, and let it do it's work.
[22:34] <maco> j_humphrey: then run "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[22:34] <cak054> hi
[22:34] <maco> ffm_: hi ffm
[22:34] <ibleed> can you add an entry to grub, pointing to an .iso on the hard drive that for installation purposes ?
[22:34] <arbrandes> tanath: Installing it from an image would be slightly more complicated. :)
[22:34] <ikonia> osmosis: no, I mean the product in the nvidia drivers of any version is poor (only in my opinion)
[22:34] <tanath> arbrandes, i already upgraded 2 days ago :P
[22:34] <dreamcoder> i cant beleive i have just spent all day backing up to put a piece of crap like hardy with kde4 on my pc
[22:34] <ScarEye> fliegenderfrosch:  Do you have a link or doc to that mirror
[22:34] <wuxia> on ubuntu 8.04 ... how do I get nvidia acceleration?
[22:34] <HayHay> x1250: Where is best to find out what comes on this distro? "ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent" - Ubuntu website?
[22:35] <tanath> arbrandes, i mean, installing/upgrading from a mounted iso
[22:35] <ceil420> dreamcoder, ewww kde
[22:35] <maco> ffm_: my cd burner is failing! im gonna have to put the isos on a flash drive and burn on a school comp
[22:35] <ceil420> i can't believe you did it either :p
[22:35] <fliegenderfrosch> ScarEye: in the ubuntu sources config dialog, you can search for other mirrors
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[22:35] <lopin> You can use the cdupgrade command on the cd
[22:35] <osmosis> ikonia: like I said, worked great in gutsy.
[22:35] <plik> dreamcoder: doh! you should have backed-up yesterday, in antici
[22:35] <plik> pation
[22:35] <dreamcoder> the display size is wrong res is wrong monitor wrong and no gui to condigure it
[22:35] <key2> which ubuntu has as default kernel 2.6.18 ? someone knows ?
[22:35] <maco> ffm_: first will try real cdrecord instead of wodim.  do you know where to get a cdrecord deb?
[22:35] <arbrandes> tanath: upgrading I can vouch for. Installing I haven't tried with Ubuntu (did it all the time with Fedora, but over the network).
[22:35] <ScarEye> fliegenderfrosch:  I try that, thanks
[22:35] <ffm_> maco, Darn. Fortunately I have a few burners here. How many exactly do we need?
[22:35] <j_humphrey> ok maco, i'll try that now, brb
[22:35] <smallfoot-> the new start page in firefox for 8.04 is much better than old one, its much easier!
[22:35] <XATRIX> fliegenderfrosch> thanks for the help
[22:35] <Liquidy> tyranos: sorry for delay, flash and 64 bits, ...
[22:35] <ffm_> maco, No, I'll look.
[22:35] <VeN0mizer> ScarEye: System->Admin->Software sources->Download from->Other->archive.ubuntu-rocks.org->Choose....there ya go ;) Update manager lives again with the latest updates
[22:35] <fliegenderfrosch> XATRIX: np
[22:35] <theunixgeek> I keep getting an error when downloading the upgrade tool. What do I do?
[22:36] <chaqui> shit son!
[22:36] <ffm_> maco, Tried K3B?
[22:36] <wuxia> on ubuntu 8.04 ... how do I get nvidia acceleration?
[22:36] <tv3SkUrt> Something must be done about the ati drivers. Video overlay only works properly with Xine both VLC and Totem fails to use video overlay.
[22:36] <maco> smallfoot-: whats the start page?
[22:36] <dreamcoder> cant beleive i wasted a good system and used 35 dvds to back up
[22:36] <ikonia> osmosis: as I said this is a different situation
[22:36] <ceil420> key2, i think that's between Edgy and Feisty, but i'm not sure
[22:36] <chaqui> oops sorry
[22:36] <x1250> HayHay: you can find info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/RC
[22:36] <iDN> hey, me again
[22:36] <ffm_> !language | chaqui
[22:36] <ubotu> chaqui: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[22:36] <ibleed> HayHay, bunches of stuff on it.  the dvd has text and graphical installer though and i'm not sure what else.  if you want you could download the cd, and have it download updates after you install.
[22:36] <chaqui> wrong chatbox
[22:36] <maco> ffm_: no. tried nautilus, brasero, and gnomebaker
[22:36] <ikonia> chaqui: what was the need for that language, it's uncalled for
[22:36] <oddalot> woot it fixed itself
[22:36] <smallfoot-> maco: http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[22:36] <Emof> Hi! After upgrading to 8.04 my nvida drivers doesn't work. I've tried using envy to reinstall them (nvidia-glx-new) but it still won't work
[22:36] <DinCahill> liquidy: i booted with pci=nommconf but it didnt work
[22:36] <osmosis> ikonia: nope, you said you are referring to the nvidia product, not to hardy.
[22:36] <chaqui> sorry i had the wrong chatbox
[22:36] <maco> ffm_: they all say burn error, potential overburn
[22:36] <tyranos> Liquidy ,even while using a 32 bit verison of gutsy
[22:36] <ffm_> maco, K3B usually is awesome.
[22:36] <ikonia> osmosis: yes, I am
[22:36] <wuxia> Emof: hey, i'm having similar problems with nvidia
[22:36] <maco> smallfoot-: oh that. isnt it normally a local fil?
[22:36] <wuxia> Emof: what have you found out so far?
[22:36] <dreamcoder> nothing is instllable through addremeove
[22:36] <VeN0mizer> tv3SkUrt: yes, ATI needs to have someone else work on their linux drivers besides the janitors
[22:36] <maco> *file?
[22:36] <ffm_> maco, May be a hardware issue, hm?
[22:36] <livingdaylight> tanath, is swiftox worth it?
[22:36] <iDN> how can i update to hardy heron from the cd? i already have an ubuntu 7.4 installed.
[22:36] <smallfoot-> maco, uhm yeh.. it were
[22:36] <Emof> wuxia: that nothing works :(
[22:37] <tanath> maco, k3b is the best, but if you want cdrecord, it's in the repo too
[22:37] <dreamcoder> what a waste of time evey one should stick to the previous release
[22:37] <fserve> iDN, get the alternate cd
[22:37] <wuxia> Emof: i'm tempted to download the *.sh from nvidia's website and go from that
[22:37] <maco> tanath: no its not. it's replaced by wodim.
[22:37] <ScarEye> LTS = Only GNOME ?   NO KDE version ?
[22:37] <Liquidy> tyranos: i'm a bit confused
[22:37] <iDN> :(
[22:37] <crashsystems> iDN, you need to download the alternate installer
[22:37] <gustavo_> anyone knows "irc it" ? the ii client?
[22:37] <maco> ScarEye: yes
[22:37] <ceil420> dreamcoder, i just wanna update libconfuse so's i can install awesome wm :x
[22:37] <fliegenderfrosch> iDN: you can't upgrade directly to hardy, you have to reinstall or update to 7.10 first
[22:37] <ScarEye> maco:  thanks
[22:37] <crashsystems> burn that CD, then stick it into your drive
[22:37] <holabola> wasup !!
[22:37] <maco> ScarEye: KDE4 is too untested to be LTS
[22:37] <Liquidy> tyranos: you're trying to install it on 32 bits now?
[22:37] <jaymzh> is there a problem with us.archive.ubuntu.com? My 'apt-get install' and "apt-get update" just hang on opening a connection to it
[22:37] <jaymzh> (and is there an alternative)
[22:37] <DrX> can you share a CD ROM in a Linux box out to a Windows server over the network using SAMBA?
[22:37] <ffm_> maco or anyone else: Whenever I go to Apps>Sys>NewLogin and then choose "quit" from the gdm menu, I am returned to a blank (white) screen, only seeing my mouse.
[22:37] <iDN> blast!
[22:37] <L815> is there a torrent link for hardy ?
[22:37] <tanath> livingdaylight, define 'worth it'. just click the link to the .deb file, and open & install it. it's a bit faster that's all
[22:37] <plik> dreamcoder: back ups are always useful, but you might have been better off with a different hard disk
[22:37] <ffm_> jaymzh, It's overused.
[22:37] <arbrandes> jaymzh, servers are bogged.
[22:37] <ceil420> for some reason i can't install it from source :(
[22:37] <jordanjay29> woo-hoo!
[22:37] <VeN0mizer> jaymzh: System->Admin->Software sources->Download from->Other->archive.ubuntu-rocks.org->Choose....there ya go ;) Update manager lives again with the latest updates
[22:37] <iDN> fliegenderfrosch: sorry for misleading you. i have 7.10 installed.
[22:37] <ffm_> L815, Yes, see releases.ubuntu.com/8.04
[22:37] <ibleed> the forums are down ?
[22:38] <DBautell> Drx, I have
[22:38]  * jordanjay29 got the Cisco VPN working! :D
[22:38] <theunixgeek> meh... I'll just download the torrent instead of upgrading. FRESH INSTALL! :D
[22:38] <iDN> does it matter if i have 7.04 or 7.10? i have 7.10.
[22:38] <Emof> it's strange that they didn't test hardy with nvidia drivers before releasing it...
[22:38] <arbrandes> ibleed, servers are probably as bogged down as the update servers.
[22:38] <fliegenderfrosch> !torrent | L815
[22:38] <ubotu> L815: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[22:38] <crashsystems> iDN: then you can install from the alt installer
[22:38] <dreamcoder> yeah if i had new it was so opoo i would of stuck with my fully configured working good system
[22:38] <fliegenderfrosch> !torrents | L815
[22:38] <ceil420> Your system is up-to-date
[22:38] <ceil420> There are no upgrades available for your system. The upgrade will now be canceled.
[22:38] <ubotu> L815: Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[22:38] <ceil420> LIES!
[22:38] <maco> L815: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[22:38] <livingdaylight> tanath, worth it being noticeably faster. you say it is so....
[22:38] <ceil420> my system is NOT up to date :(
[22:38] <crashsystems> if you had 7.04, you'd need to upgrade to 7.10 first
[22:38] <DinCahill> hardy recognises my sata drives but not my ide ones
[22:38] <ikonia> ceil420: what package is missing ?
[22:38] <lch_> is  2.6.24-16 the kernel version is should have in hardy or did grub boot the wrong one?
[22:38] <arbrandes> ceil420, lol
[22:38] <lopin> I can't get bittorrent working on the iso
[22:38] <L815> maco, thanks
[22:38] <smallfoot-> so when is Ubuntu 8.10 Ibex, Alpha1?
[22:38] <theunixgeek> come on, seed! :D
[22:38] <fliegenderfrosch> iDN: sorry, what was your question again?
[22:39] <tanath> livingdaylight, i'm not sure. it's been quite some time since i've used plain firefox... but my firefox 3.0pre1 is pretty damn quick
[22:39] <iDN> crashsystems: so there's no way of upgrading from 7.10 to hardy using the livecd?
[22:39] <grandpapadot> Hi all.  Anyone have a fast direct download site for 8.04?
[22:39] <ceil420> ikonia, it just tells me that when i try to update-manager --dist-upgrade (from Gutsy)
[22:39] <tanath> livingdaylight, er, swiftfox that is
[22:39] <dreamcoder> kubuntu should still be in beta stage not released
[22:39] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: other question, is it possible to make the dns entries in the resolv.conf persistent, the network manager alway change them
[22:39] <smallfoot-> lch_, thats the one it should be
[22:39] <crashsystems> firefox3 rocks!
[22:39] <Liquidy> DinCahill: it didn't work?
[22:39] <ikonia> ceil420: probably has no server to connect to
[22:39] <iDN> fliegenderfrosch: how can i upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 using the livecd?
[22:39] <DinCahill> nope
[22:39] <livingdaylight> tanath, do you choose the processor or just go for the apt-get install?
[22:39] <arbrandes> grandpapadot: torrents here, http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[22:39] <DinCahill> pci=nommconf right
[22:39] <sileni> hello, im following the typical ndiswrapper broadcom tutorial http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/install-bcm94311mcg-wlan-mini-pci-ubuntu-710/ , it says blacklist bcm43xx but its already there and i just did fresh install of heron. should i blacklist something else other than bcm43xx
[22:39] <ffm_> iDN, you can't.
[22:39] <arbrandes> iDN: you can't
[22:39] <iDN> ic
[22:39] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: No, and it annoys me really badly! I hate having to do it the old fashioned way.
[22:39] <fliegenderfrosch> iDN: i'm not sure if its possible with the live cd, it is with the alternate cd though
[22:39] <Emof> Anyone have any clue to how you get nvidia drivers working in Hardy?
[22:39] <lch_> smallfoot-: thank you, so grub automatically choose the new one :-)
[22:39] <ceil420> ikonia, then why wouldn't it tell me that? i'd rather it give me a 503 error than a "you don't need to upgrade" message ;x
[22:39] <maco> ffm_: yeah it probably is a hardware issue. never buying from circuit city again.  they replaced a bad hard drive with worse one and a bad cd-rw/dvd-rw with one that should be able to do all thse functions but instead just reads
[22:39] <DinCahill> on boot i pressed f6 for options and i stuck it in
[22:39] <VeN0mizer> sileni: you gotta google wirelessfix.sh and read the post
[22:40] <iDN> well, how do i do that using the alternate cd?
[22:40] <sileni> ok
[22:40] <ikonia> ceil420: no idea
[22:40] <maco> sileni: you shouldnt need broadcom
[22:40] <jaymzh> VeN0mizer, thanks!
[22:40] <tanath> livingdaylight, i chose my cpu and get the deb directly, so as to get v3. the repos has the latest 2.0 version
[22:40] <smallfoot-> iDN, you can just type "update-manager --dist-upgrade"
[22:40] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: the old fashioned way?
[22:40] <fliegenderfrosch> iDN: just insert it and it will ask you
[22:40] <arbrandes> iDN: just pop it in or mount the image, it'll prompt you to upgrade.
[22:40] <dreamcoder> i am beginnging to see why i should wait a few months when something is released with linux
[22:40] <sileni> what do you mean i dont need broadcom
[22:40] <ffm_> maco, Nasty.
[22:40] <sileni> thats my wireless card
[22:40] <maco> sileni: just install the firmware from the restricted manager
[22:40] <VeN0mizer> jaymzh: yw ;)
[22:40] <sileni> i thought firmware one was slow
[22:40] <maco> sileni: i meant shouldnt need ndiswrapper :P
[22:40] <sileni> like 24 mbps vs 58
[22:40] <ffm_> maco, I usually buy hard disks directly from the mfg, WD has a 5~ year warrenty on their portables.
[22:40] <maco> sileni: i have no idea
[22:40] <arbrandes> iDN: if it doesn't, run: gksu "sh /media/loop/cdromupgrade"
[22:40] <maco> ffm_: it was warranty
[22:40] <rbs-tito> DooMRunneR: Ifup ifdown
[22:40] <VeN0mizer> sileni: you're right, the default cutter drivers suck, google wirelessfix.sh for hardy and you'll find your answer for ndiswrapper
[22:41] <DooMRunneR> rbs-tito: ok :)
[22:41] <iDN> fliegenderfrosch and arbrandes: thank you, i'll try that.
[22:41] <maco> ffm_: you cant get a warranty replacement from WD on hdd's included in systems
[22:41] <arbrandes> iDN: roger, roger
[22:41] <smallfoot-> 1599 ppl in this channel :D
[22:41] <dreamcoder> is ubuntu 8.04 any better than kubuntu 8.04?
[22:41] <dettoaltrimenti> can someone please help me with my broadcom/wireless internet? I've spent 3 hours now reading things online trying to get it to work
[22:41] <Odd-rationale> this might be dumb question, but how do you exit full screen in vinrage? :?
[22:41] <maco> dreamcoder: its just a different GUI
[22:41] <smallfoot-> dreamcoder, no, its different :p
[22:41] <iDN> thanks for everyone's help. : i appreciate your quick reply. :)
[22:41] <ceil420> dreamcoder, yes.
[22:41] <Emof> so no one else have had problems with nvidia drivers after the update?
[22:41] <KyleK> dreamcoder: insert kde/gnome flamewar
[22:41] <iDN> cu
[22:41] <arbrandes> dreamcoder, yes, cause KDE sucks (just kidding, just kidding)
[22:41] <ceil420> KDE fails :p
[22:41] <smallfoot-> dreamcoder, kubuntu 8.04 is ubuntu 8.04 with KDE instead of GNOME
[22:41] <ceil420> KyleK, beat me to it <_<
[22:41] <gustavo_> dreamcoder: it depends on what you prefer.. they yse different desktop systems
[22:41] <VeN0mizer> dettoaltrimenti: what are you using? ndiswrapper?
[22:41] <ceil420> arbrandes, i wasn't :p
[22:41] <dreamcoder> kde 4 with ubuntu is NOT good
[22:41] <tv3SkUrt> Ubuntu is great sadly the drivers are not :|
[22:42] <arbrandes> ceil420 (me neither, but don't tell anyone)
[22:42] <maco> dreamcoder: theres a non-kde4 version of kubuntu
[22:42] <ceil420> dreamcoder, a lot of people have a beef with Ubuntu's implementation of KDE
[22:42] <mwe> how can you tell apt you want to keep a package it thinks is not needed?
[22:42] <dreamcoder> well with kde 4 and ubuntu theres no gui for editing the right display
[22:42] <dreamcoder> i loved gutsy and kde
[22:42] <ceil420> (personally, i don't like the DE on any system)
[22:42] <dreamcoder> then heron happend
[22:42] <weasy> Breeze
[22:42] <DooMRunneR> where are those resolutions in the xorg.conf gone?
[22:42] <Gistybit> any way to cross update from ubuntu 64bit to 32bit?
[22:42] <dettoaltrimenti> venomizer- no, I read that in 8.04 you can use the package b43-fwcutter
[22:42] <dreamcoder> hardy*
[22:42] <weasy> You shouldn't act as gm lol
[22:42] <KyleK> damn these hammered repositories
[22:42] <wuxia> Emof: I got nvidia up now, using the nvidia's download
[22:42] <fliegenderfrosch> DooMRunneR: this is now autoconfigured
[22:42] <weasy> I am sure that went well
[22:42] <ceil420> KyleK, right?
[22:42] <Emof> wuxia: from their site?
[22:42] <yukonho> has anyone had painfully slow boot/install processes? Mine hangs on "loading hardware drivers" and fails....
[22:42] <Chouji> Amsg: booting into windows >_>
[22:42] <oddalot> hi, anyone know what happened to the screens section, all i can find now is the resolution section, and it only gives me 640-480 resolution max!!
[22:42] <ffm_> maco, Really? Cool.
[22:42] <maco> mwe: sudo aptitude <package>&m
[22:42] <ceil420> all i want is to update libconfuse :(
[22:43] <ceil420> damn frozen packages ;x
[22:43] <tanath> KyleK, heh, that's why i upgraded 2 days ago :D
[22:43] <Sivik> does anyone have a linksys wireless pci card up and running corrrectly for 7.10 or 8.04
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> kyleabaker: what hammered repos?
[22:43] <sileni> venomizer, i did and i found a post
[22:43] <maco> mwe: thatll mark it as manually installed so it doesnt think its some leftover dependency
[22:43] <MEtaLpREs> can someone give me a quick answer,  without starting a big debate or flame war, on newer hardware is xubuntu at all noticeably faster than ubuntu?
[22:43] <DooMRunneR> fliegenderfrosch: hmm, but my gdm resolution is to high...
[22:43] <afallenhope> hey how do you uninstall a module?
[22:43] <ceil420> IndyGunFreak, Ubuntu's hammered repos
[22:43] <ffm_> MEtaLpREs, Yes.
[22:43] <crashsystems> DooMRunneR: ubuntu is using dexconfig to determine resolution values
[22:43] <mwe> maco, I'll try, thanks
[22:43] <tv3SkUrt> Its really strange i tried red hat linux about 8 years ago and had to stop using because of drivers issues and now 8 years later the driver issue still persists.
[22:43] <IndyGunFreak> ceil420: they seem fine to me
[22:43] <dreamcoder> anyone using gutsy kubuntu DO NOT upgrade to that piece of pooo call hardy with kde it really is poo
[22:43] <maco> ffm_: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ <-- see kubuntu and kubuntu-kde4?
[22:43] <wuxia> Emof: yep, compiz isn't working yet, but glxgears is at 3596fps
[22:43] <ffm_> MEtaLpREs, But once you insatll a single GNOME app...
[22:43] <ceil420> MEtaLpREs, probably not, but i prefer xfce for aesthetic reasons
[22:43] <fliegenderfrosch> DooMRunneR: afaik you can still write them into xorg.conf
[22:43] <sileni> VeN0mizer:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=760529 the second post by pulmite is that the post i shoudl follow ?
[22:43] <maco> mwe: er...sudo aptitude install <package>&m
[22:44] <ffm_> maco, what about it?
[22:44] <x1250> tv3SkUrt: 8 years with the same hardware? I dont think so? :)
[22:44] <DooMRunneR> fliegenderfrosch: and after that dexconfig wouldnt work anymore or what? :)
[22:44] <maco> ffm_: isnt that what you "really?"d at?
[22:44] <Emof> wuxia: do you have a link to the place you downloaded it
[22:44] <ceil420> IndyGunFreak, t's not working so fine for me
[22:44] <biabia> With this new release of Hardy, if I burn to .iso can I just upgrade my install? or will it overwrite all my data and settings?
[22:44] <ceil420> (and my connection is fast and is working)
[22:44] <IndyGunFreak> ceil420: luck of the draw i guess.
[22:44] <afallenhope> how do you uninstall modules?
[22:44] <mwe> maco, the ampersand makes aptitude run in the backgroun :|
[22:44] <x1250> biabia: what settings?
[22:44] <fliegenderfrosch> DooMRunneR: dexconfig?
[22:44] <MExUbuntu> I need help!! I have an Apache web server in my intranet and it has a many deb files. I would like to add it as a repository. But I don't know what to do. The server IP address is 172.17.250.250
[22:45] <MEtaLpREs> i really like gnome and have been using it for a long time but i keep hearing xubuntu is faster and just as good, but if the speed increase is barely noticeable then i dont want to bother
[22:45] <wuxia> Emof: go to front page, click on drivers, I choose geforce 8 series; it pointed me to a NVIDIA-linux-x86_64-blahblah-pkg2.run sh file
[22:45] <VeN0mizer> FOR THOSE HAVING BROADCOM AND NDISWRAPPER ISSUES CHECK OUT http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=734003 Thanks ;)
[22:45] <DooMRunneR> fliegenderfrosch: chrashsystems talked about that some lines above
[22:45] <ffm_> maco, No, I didn't know that mfg warrentes on HDs were passed along to consumers.
[22:45] <ceil420> MEtaLpREs, it's still prettier :)
[22:45] <sileni> appreciate it venomizer
[22:45] <ffm_> !caps | VeN0mizer
[22:45] <ubotu> VeN0mizer: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[22:45] <ikonia> VeN0mizer: don't use caps and don't post random urls
[22:45] <HayHay> x1250: Hi Sorry my scroll back on XChat was set too low and I missed the Wiki link you posted for me - Sorry - Have scroll back set to 600 lines now.  :o)
[22:45] <x1250> MEtaLpREs: you can always install xubuntu-desktop package
[22:45] <dreamcoder> i cant beleive hardy with kde 4 was released
[22:45] <arbrandes> MEtaLpREs: it really isn't all that much faster, if you got a recent PC.
[22:45] <VeN0mizer> !aware | ffm_
[22:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aware - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:45] <fliegenderfrosch> DooMRunneR: ah, i think that should still work
[22:45] <MEtaLpREs> ceil420: which is?
[22:45] <ceil420> MEtaLpREs, if i had a quad core with 4gb RAM and an nvidia 8800GTS 512, i'd still choose Xfce over Gnome/KDE
[22:45] <afallenhope> VeN0mizer: I thought the new b43 driver fixed it so y didn't have to use the ndsiwrapper
[22:45] <ffm_> dreamcoder, Two versions of hardy were.
[22:45] <x1250> HayHay: you can find info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/RC
[22:45] <dreamcoder> if i knew it was going to be this bad i would of stuck with suse
[22:45] <maco> mwe: sudo aptitude unmarkauto <package>
[22:45] <dreamcoder> or gone with ubuntu with boring gnome
[22:46] <maco> ffm_: theyre *not* passed to consumers
[22:46] <Emof> wuxia: thanks, trying that
[22:46] <arbrandes> MEtaLpREs, x1250: but if you install the xubuntu-desktop package, USE APTITUDE TO DO IT
[22:46] <ffm_> VeN0mizer, Uh, then why did you do it?
[22:46] <VeN0mizer> afallenhope: sadly, the new b43 driver is slow and causes odd hangs for me :/
[22:46] <HayHay> x1250: thx mucho - got it.....
[22:46] <ceil420> dreamcoder, why not install gnome? sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:46] <dsch04> The DVD torrents seem real slow
[22:46] <KyleK> afallenhope: im using ndiswrapper, b43 doesn't support the PHY i have
[22:46] <arbrandes> dsch04, yup, same here.
[22:46] <tanath> livingdaylight, you trying out swiftfox?
[22:46] <afallenhope> VeN0mizer: did you patch your driver? If you patch your driver... it shoul have fixed that.
[22:46] <dsch04> Am only getting 20kbs max
[22:46] <wuxia> dsch04: tried pulling from mirrors.kernel.org?
[22:46] <arbrandes> dsch04, in contrast to the lightning fast desktop torrent.
[22:46] <VeN0mizer> ffm_: because the channel is rolling with spam, and several people have asked, and when I try to respond it seems I go unheard, it is a critical issue
[22:46] <IndyGunFreak> i downloaded the CD torrent, at around 5-600k.. about max for my connection
[22:46] <DBautell> painfully slow
[22:46] <plik> ceil420: he'd rather just complain and moan
[22:46] <walilo> hello every body
[22:46] <DinCahill> anyone know how i can get hardy livecd to recognise ide hard drives which worked in gutsy?
[22:46] <ffm_> maco, uh... "<maco> ffm_: you cant get a warranty replacement from WD on hdd's included in systems"
[22:46] <livingdaylight> tanath, problems
[22:47] <mluser-work> should I use the 64bit version of ubuntu for a 'core 2 quad' processor.. or just stick with the 32bit?
[22:47] <dsch04> 148 seeds for the i386, 50 for x86_64
[22:47] <MEtaLpREs> arbrandes: if i install xfce i can choose between both gnome and xfce?  it doesn kill the other?  i might try it out
[22:47] <ceil420> plik, sounds like someone i know in ##linux :x
[22:47] <maco> dreamcoder: theres a kde3.5.9 and kde4 version. kde4's too new and kde3.5.9 is too old to support that long. hence no lts
[22:47] <tanath> livingdaylight, oh?
[22:47] <plik> heh
[22:47] <ffm_> mluser-work, Both will work.
[22:47] <afallenhope> KyleK: you would need to patch the driver with SuD's patch.
[22:47] <livingdaylight> tanath, and epiphany isn't letting me launchapplet either
[22:47] <maco> ffm_: yeah, see the "cant"
[22:47] <dsch04> mluser-work: depends how much RAM you have
[22:47] <plik> there's always one (or more)
[22:47] <dreamcoder> i think i will try my lucxk with ubuntu
[22:47] <afallenhope> Now... how do you uninstall modules? lol.
[22:47] <DooMRunneR> ls
[22:47] <dreamcoder> why not
[22:47] <ffm_> maco, Oops.
[22:47] <mluser-work> ffm_: I know.. but other than larger memory.. are there any other benefits?
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> mluser-work: i would stick w/ 32bit,.,. but thats just me
[22:47] <livingdaylight> tanath, i did apt-get update && apt-get install swiftfox-athlon-xp
[22:47] <arbrandes> MEtaLpREs, yes you can choose.  One does not kill the other.
[22:47] <mwe> maco, It wants to remove "unused packages" including firefox :(
[22:47] <ffm_> mluser-work, faster code compilation, etc.
[22:47] <IndyGunFreak> unless you have a real need for it.
[22:47] <maco> dreamcoder: because 3.5.9 will not be getting security patches in 3 years...same reason no firefox 2
[22:47] <maco> mwe: firefox is being upgraded to firefox 3
[22:48] <ffm_> mluser-work, I am on 64bit right now, and don't have any problems.
[22:48] <tanath> livingdaylight, the repo doesn't seem to have the latest version
[22:48] <mluser-work> dont pae kernels work with 4+ gigs of ram.. even in 32bit systems?
[22:48] <livingdaylight> tanath, and it asks whether i was root, which i was so, i don't know why it didn't work
[22:48] <MEtaLpREs> arbrandes: how do you choose which one boots? is there a menu somewhere?
[22:48] <ryan__> hey ever body
[22:48] <techII> ok, blender doesn't work on hardy (64 bit with ati card)
[22:48] <bcardarella> Just upgraded... my numerical keypad is no longer working. Any ideas?
[22:48] <tanath> livingdaylight, try synaptic?
[22:48] <mwe> maco, oh
[22:48] <livingdaylight> tanath, i added to repo as the swiftfox site recommends
[22:48] <ryan__> can some one private message me... i have a quick question!
[22:48] <tanath> livingdaylight, yeah, but fx 3 is better :)
[22:48] <arbrandes> MEtaLpREs, it's been a while since I did this, but I believe you can choose on the login screen.
[22:48] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: did you use sudo before AND after the && ?
[22:48] <maco> mwe: you can also run "sudo aptitude why-not firefox"
[22:48] <Nihilist_Nerd> Where can I find the results of fsck?
[22:48] <mluser-work> ffm_: any driver issues with your box?
[22:48] <walilo> I have a problem with my printer Canon Lbp 800 it can't work on Ubuntu 7.10 : ( plese help me how to do it?????
[22:48] <tanath> livingdaylight, and i've found it completely stable
[22:48] <dreamcoder> everyone using gnome inhere?
[22:48] <MEtaLpREs> arbrandes: ok thanks, i will give it a try
[22:48] <maco> mwe: and itll show you if its conflicting with nything
[22:49] <ceil420> Fx3 is win :)
[22:49] <mwe> maco, are you kidding me? :)
[22:49] <livingdaylight> fliegenderfrosch, AND after the && - no
[22:49] <ceil420> dreamcoder, i'm using Xfce with the Enlightenment 16 window manager
[22:49] <ffm_> mluser-work, none.
[22:49] <mluser-work> ffm_: thanks
[22:49] <maco> mwe: aptitude has CRAZY options available.  go check out the manpage. i doubt even the devs know all the stuff it can do
[22:49] <afallenhope> I'm running 64 bit Ubuntu Hardy Heron, and I'm trying to get uninstall a module that I added. anyone able to help me out?
[22:49] <saminthemiddle> is anyone else having problems with 64bit Firefox on Hardy? It won't let websites set their own font sizes. And I have already checked the check box in the perfs and set minimum font size to "none"
[22:49] <ffm_> mluser-work, keep in mind YMMV.
[22:49] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: you have to use "sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get install whatever"
[22:49] <Nihilist_Nerd> Oh, I have found it, dw
[22:49] <tanath> livingdaylight, heh ;)
[22:49] <arbrandes> MEtaLpREs, remember to use aptitude instead of apt-get or synaptic.  With aptitude it is easier to remove unused packages if you decide to remove xubuntu-desktop or even ubuntu-desktop.
[22:49] <mluser-work> ffm_: YMMV?
[22:49] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: or else the 2nd command isn't executed with root privileges
[22:49] <techII> afallenhope: 'rmmod' and 'modprobe -r' dont work?
[22:50] <tanath> livingdaylight, yeah, gotta remember it's a new command..
[22:50] <mluser-work> ffm_: never mind.. I get it :)
[22:50] <ceil420> arbrandes, apt-get remove has never failed me :o
[22:50] <afallenhope> techII: that only unloads it.
[22:50] <techII> afallenhope: or are you talking about packages?
[22:50] <kewlburn> anyone can help me on how to enable KDETwitter?
[22:50] <bigdog_> I still can't seem to get my update manager to see that I need to upgrade.
[22:50] <ffm_> ceil420, but aptitude is better.
[22:50] <saminthemiddle> ceil420: he means for removing deps
[22:50] <kewlburn> please.....
[22:50] <ceil420> ffm_, why?
[22:50] <dsch04> I'm about to buy a dual head graphics card for use with 8.04 (x86_64) in an Asus P5K WS board (PCI-E x16). Any recommendations?
[22:50] <mwe> maco, yeah I used it a bit but I think it's sometimes trying to be a bit too clever
[22:50] <arbrandes> ceil420, well, until relatively recently it would not auto-remove unused packages.
[22:50] <afallenhope> techII: I want to get rid of the module itself
[22:50] <dsch04> I'm mainly looking for chipset support
[22:50] <ceil420> saminthemiddle, apt-get autoremove for unneeded packages
[22:50] <maco> ceil420: aptitude remove is almost the same as apt-get remove and then apt-get autoclean...except one step
[22:50] <tanath> aptitude is smarter
[22:50] <livingdaylight> tanath, is swiftfox proprietary?
[22:50] <dsch04> i.e. ATI or nVidia?
[22:50] <tanath> livingdaylight, kinda
[22:50] <ffm_> ceil420, it presents solutions when dependancies are unsatisfied, and is better at resolving errors.
[22:50] <ceil420> maco, sometimes i just wanna reinstall something :p
[22:50] <VeN0mizer> I thought aptitude was obsolete?
[22:51] <tanath> livingdaylight, the artwork is
[22:51] <ceil420> of course, it didn't help with vlc ;x
[22:51] <saminthemiddle> ceil420: that works, I just go through the logs and remove everything that was installed when I installed that program
[22:51] <ffm_> livingdaylight, Then again, so is firefox.
[22:51] <tanath> livingdaylight, but it's just an optimized build of firefox
[22:51] <maco> ceil420: aptitude reinstall <package>
[22:51] <ceil420> it's still buggin' out on me
[22:51] <Nihilist_Nerd> Please can somebody tell me what this is saying? /dev/sda2: 305996/4921952 files (2.8% non-contiguous), 7888500/9839812 blocks
[22:51] <chaqui> can i make everything a bit smaller?
[22:51] <ceil420> maco, i'll try that in a bit
[22:51] <biabia> x1250: I was just afraid if I download the iso, and burn it that it would overwrite my entire drive and destroy all my data.
[22:51] <richard> Hola
[22:51] <dsch04> Nihilist_Nerd: Nothing wrong there
[22:51] <tanath> livingdaylight, it has a trademark, and it's own icon, but that's about it
[22:51] <Nihilist_Nerd> What about 7888500/9839812 blocks?
[22:51] <ceil420> still tryin' to get Hardy atm
[22:51] <mwe> maco, it insists I should solve some "problems" before it will unmarkauto as far as I can tell
[22:51] <ffm_> Nihilist_Nerd, That's what is in use.
[22:51] <Nihilist_Nerd> dsch04: Thanks
[22:51] <ceil420> awesome wm is more important to me than vlc right now :p
[22:51] <chaqui> i think my fonts are just to big
[22:51] <livingdaylight> ffm_, FF is proprietary?
[22:51] <saminthemiddle> Nihilist_Nerd: it means 2.8% of your files are fragmented. Don't worry about it
[22:51] <dsch04> You've used x of y blocks
[22:51] <ffm_> livingdaylight, technically, according to debian.
[22:51] <ceil420> not if you mean Firefox
[22:52] <Nihilist_Nerd> ceil420: Oh I see; thanks. I thought it might be how many blocks were bad :P
[22:52] <x1250> biabia: don you have /home mounted on the same partition as / ?
[22:52] <riskbreaker> hey guys. running Xubuntu hardy at the moment. i am trying to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as my xorg.conf is poorly configured at the moment (lacks most of the encessary sections for some reason)
[22:52] <x1250> don/do
[22:52] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: the artwork is afaik
[22:52] <biabia> x1250: yes
[22:52] <riskbreaker> when i run that progrma, i get tihs error about halfway through the reconfiguration:
[22:52] <riskbreaker> FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[22:52] <arbrandes> dammit, only 35 packages to go, but 2 hours left.
[22:52] <ffm_> livingdaylight, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox#Licensing
[22:52] <tanath> Nihilist_Nerd, whatever you used to get that output, try adding a '-h' to the command
[22:52] <Zicks> hey osmosis
[22:52] <riskbreaker> can anyone help?
[22:52] <Nihilist_Nerd> tanath: thanks; it ran automatically
[22:52] <x1250> biabia: you dont need to download the iso, you can upgrade with aptitude
[22:52] <gustavo_> dragobr: hi there
[22:52] <Lacrymology> why is ubuntu's new version called "Hard Heroyn"?
[22:52] <techII> afallenhope: you can blacklist them in '/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist' then they won't load at boot (no idea if they get loaded when something is plugged in (usb)), i would think your best bet would be to delete/move it from the '/lib/modules/' tree
[22:52] <Zicks> i figured out, to reset all dekstop preferences in gnome default session and then re do all of it
[22:52] <Bender1337> riskbreaker: mabey
[22:52] <arbrandes> x1250, biabia: not right now, you can't
[22:53] <z0man> I have a really common question to ask here....."Hows the upgrade facility from feisty to hardy"?
[22:53] <arbrandes> Lacrymology, lol, Heroyn
[22:53] <ffm_> livingdaylight, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWeasel
[22:53] <x1250> arbrandes: why?
[22:53] <bigdog_> Anyone else having trouble detecting an upgrade with Update Manager?
[22:53] <_r0b_> whats the best way to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[22:53] <ffm_> livingdaylight, the name, logo, and artwork are nonfree.
[22:53] <arbrandes> x1250, because all the servers are bogged down.  It would take aeons to finish.
[22:53] <osmosis> Zicks: yes
[22:53] <tanath> Nihilist_Nerd, the -h makes it output human readable format (kb/mb/etc)
[22:53] <riskbreaker> there is a thread on ubuntu forums about the problem but it's not resolved:
[22:53] <biabia> x1250: gah thats not what i want to know. I want to know, IF I can download the iso, burn, and upgrade my install without overwriting everything else, like all my music, pictures, documents
[22:53] <riskbreaker> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=761447
[22:53] <Lupion> I asked this question some hours ago, anyway i couldn't fix it yet... I recently made a clean Hardy Heron AMD64 install. I'm using a NVIDIA 6 Series Card and a 22'' Widescreen LG L225WS Screen. The issue here is that I cannot manage to set the native screen resolution which is 1680x1050. The default xorg.conf file runs at 800x600 max resolution, I thought installing nvidia restricted driver would fix it, so I installed it from the repo
[22:53] <ffm_> z0man, Fine.
[22:54] <Nihilist_Nerd> tanath: thanks, but it's just given me usage and emergency help.
[22:54] <ffm_> !spam | riskbreaker
[22:54] <ubotu> riskbreaker: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[22:54] <arbrandes> biabia: yes, you can.
[22:54] <Nihilist_Nerd> edward@edward-desktop:~$ fsck -C -a -t -h ext3 /dev/sda2
[22:54] <tanath> Nihilist_Nerd, just an fyi for future reference
[22:54] <ffm_> riskbreaker, please don't just paste random links into the channel.
[22:54] <ryan__> Hey im running Ubuntu and my download speed for updates and (mozilla) downloads is like 50 K/Bs ... any help??
[22:54] <afallenhope> techII: when I delete it from the modules tree I type: "sudo modprobe -r rt73" and it unloads... then I  reboot and it STILL loads.
[22:54] <arbrandes> biabia: but you have to download the ALTERNATE cd, or the DVD.
[22:54] <dsch04> So, nobody got any gfx card recommendations?
[22:54] <gustavo_> dragobr_: are you there?
[22:54] <dbristow> seem too have trouble getting a coherent copy of wubi.exe (one that matches the MD5SUMS)
[22:54] <riskbreaker> ffm_: please look at the message i placed right before it
[22:54] <Nihilist_Nerd> Thanks
[22:54] <wuxia> in ubuntu 8.04, how do I avoid that annoying "please entre ur private key password" screen every time something tres to ouse my ssh key? I alredy added it using ssh-add, how can I disable this stupid popup?
[22:54] <Zicks> osmosis: so basically when upgrading its best to reset everything to defaults and start from there
[22:54] <bigdog_> ryan__: I think all of us are having trouble. :)
[22:54] <tanath> !mousebuttons
[22:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mousebuttons - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:54] <tanath> !manymousebuttons
[22:54] <ffm_> Lupion, And?
[22:54] <biabia> arbrandes: ok. so the normal live/install doesnt offer the option i need?
[22:54] <arbrandes> dsch04, if you're into 3D stuff, definitely Nvidia.
[22:55] <VeN0mizer> wuxia: change the password to blank in the keyring manager
[22:55] <gaucho> My sound isn't working on 8.04! I have an Asus p5b motherboard with onboard sound..
[22:55] <ffm_> !botabuse | tanath
[22:55] <ubotu> tanath: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[22:55] <arbrandes> biabia: no, it doesn't.
[22:55] <ScorpKing> i want to upgrade to 8.04 but i don't have enough bandwidth here to download apps. is there a way i can parse my apt-move repo and just run aptitude --download-only <apps-from-my-repo> on a remote box that has the bandtwidth i need?
[22:55] <dsch04> Not really - will be using as a workstation
[22:55] <IndyGunFreak> !mouse | tanath
[22:55] <ubotu> tanath: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[22:55] <techII> afallenhope: use '/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist' thats what i do with the madwifi (atheros) modules so i can get ndiswrapper working (my newer card isn't supported)
[22:55] <ryan__> ohh so not just mee? Its everyones download speed (regardless of ubuntu version)
[22:55] <MEtaLpREs> thats odd, when i do apt-get for xubuntu-desktop it says it will install 91 packages, when i use aptitude it says 87 packages,  why would it be installing different things?
[22:55] <GIn> hello, any tool to make a webpage to pdf?
[22:55] <Lupion> ffm_ ?? what do you mean?...
[22:55] <tanath> IndyGunFreak, yeah, got it, thx
[22:55] <ffm_> ScorpKing, Use a local mirror like the MIT Media labs one.
[22:55] <wuxia> VeN0mizer: I'm not going to put a blanck password on my private key; I just wnat that stupid popup to stop popping up since I've already added it using 'ssh-add'
[22:55] <biabia> arbrandes: thanks! is there a guide to useing the alternate install cd/dvd so I dont make any crucial mistakes?
[22:55] <afallenhope> techII: I've blacklisted it
[22:55] <ffm_> Lupion, What happened after you installed the drivers?
[22:55] <ffm_> biabia, Yeah, on the wiki.
[22:55] <ffm_> !alternate | biabia
[22:55] <ubotu> biabia: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[22:55] <MilitantPotato> Is there a meta package for the general programs needed for building from source?
[22:55] <x1250> biabia: you CAN, but that would be crappy, since there are some packages that were dropped since gutsy, and you would have them on your hard drive, and apt-get wouldn't know about them.
[22:56] <dbristow> ffm_: as far as I can tell, the media lab is not on the list of mirrors for 8.04, don't know why
[22:56] <tanath> for some reason the forward button doesn't work
[22:56] <_r0b_> whats the best way to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[22:56] <effowe> i'm looking to do a fresh install of ubuntu and xp on my pc, i am looking to dualboot, what should I install first?
[22:56] <Waffle> GIn, what do you mean make a webpage to pdf? If you have Firefox 3, you can file and print to file, then choose PDF as the file type
[22:56] <VeN0mizer> wuxia: what does it matter? you STILL have to login to even get to they manager password or not :P
[22:56] <tanath> _r0b_, with the upgrade manager
[22:56] <ffm_> dbristow, Go to sys>prefs>softsource
[22:56] <techII> afallenhope: then if it loads at boot, i have no idea why
[22:56] <arbrandes> biabia: it is pretty simple: pop in the CD or DVD and it should prompt you to upgrade.  If it doesn't, run gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[22:56] <Lupion> ffm_ with the restricted drivers from the repositories, the system says the max resolution is 640x480... (but compiz is workin :P)
[22:56] <MEtaLpREs> effowe: install xp first
[22:56] <ScorpKing> ffm_: is MIT Media an app?
[22:56] <red22> to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 you can't use the regular install cd?
[22:56] <backgen> hey guys i'm trying to update from Gutsy to Heron but whenever i click upgraded on my Update Manager it just doesn't work...is there another way?
[22:56] <wuxia> VeN0mizer: linux is about choice; my ability to choose how I interact with my software; and freedom; my ffreedom to configure my software as I wish
[22:56] <effowe> metal: when installing ubuntu how much space should I allocate to it? is 20gb enough?
[22:57] <jimcooncat> wuxia, I believe if you set the passphrase to be the same as your computer password, gdm, pam, and seahorse take care of everything for you. It's that way on my gutsy.
[22:57] <MilitantPotato> !resolution | Lupion
[22:57] <arbrandes> red22: no, you can't.  You need the alternate cd, or the dvd.
[22:57] <ubotu> Lupion: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[22:57] <VeN0mizer> wuxia: lol wow, go have a drink man
[22:57] <ffm_> ScorpKing, No, MIT Media labs is a group at MIT that, along with lots of other places, mirrors ubuntu repositories.
[22:57] <fliegenderfrosch> backgen: what is "just doesn't work"?
[22:57] <MEtaLpREs> effowe: 20gb is plenty
[22:57] <tanath> red22, there's an upgrade guide in the topic
[22:57] <ffm_> effowe, yes.
[22:57] <_r0b_> tanath: i get a error about a server problem
[22:57] <Lupion> ubotu, i know that...
[22:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i know that... - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:57] <MEtaLpREs> effowe: you would be fine even using 10gb
[22:57] <KyleK> hey is there something like torrents for the repository system?
[22:57] <tanath> _r0b_, server's are getting hammered. maybe that's why? you could try a mirror
[22:57] <arbrandes> KyleK, only for the isos.
[22:57] <Lupion> ubotu... i man the gdm restart thing (i use ctrl+alt+del)
[22:57] <tanath> *servers
[22:57] <effowe> cool, will the ubuntu disc automatically resize my partition and install? will I be able to access that partition from windows and vice versa?
[22:57] <ffm_> KyleK, What?
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[22:57] <backgen> fligenderfrosch: well first the update manager goes grayish...so i leave it for a while...then it comes back and asks me if i want to update...then it tries to update but gives me a "recognition" error or something like that
[22:58] <biabia> arbrandes, ffm, x1250 thanks!
[22:58] <ffm_> KyleK, You mean to torrent apt?
[22:58] <ffm_> biabia, np.
[22:58] <arbrandes> biabia, no problemo.
[22:58] <VeN0mizer> wuxia: NetworkManager constantly prompted me for my keyring password, to remedy this, I set my keyring password to blank, now it no longer asks...I STILL have to log in with my username and linux password...nothing needs to be "configured how you want" albeit an oompa loompa or not'
[22:58] <ffm_> KyleK, No.
[22:58] <red22> arbrandes: since i have the 8.10 cd, but i want to upgrade.. can't i tell it to do an online update, but to use the cd as a source (i'm assuming most of the stuff to download is inthere already)
[22:58] <KyleK> ffm_: well any old p2p would be nice
[22:58] <backgen> flingenderfrosh: i'm trying it again now so i'll be able to give you more accurate details...but is there any other way to upgrade, say via Terminal or what not?
[22:58] <ffm_> KyleK, Nope.
[22:58] <MEtaLpREs> effowe: you can access windows partitions in ubuntu no problem,  accessing linux partitions in windows is a bit more complicated
[22:58] <fliegenderfrosch> backgen: you can use the alternate cd
[22:58] <matrix|ab> is archive.ubuntu still down or what?
[22:58] <KyleK> hmmm
[22:58] <arbrandes> red22, you need the *alternate* cd, not the normal desktop cd.
[22:58] <ryan__> Hey my downloading speed for anything* is like 50 K/Bs.... is that a problem everyone is having (i havent upgraded to 8.10)
[22:58] <effowe> metal: i heard that ubuntu can be installed on ntfs with 8.04?
[22:58] <Lupion> MilitantPotato... what do you mean?
[22:58] <riskbreaker> i'm running xubuntu hardy. i have the problem described in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=761447 dpkg-reconfigure seems convinced i'm on a laptop and tries to load battery modules, but i'm not and so it fails and crashes. can anyone help me fix this
[22:58] <ffm_> KyleK, The best thing is to use apt-mirror to make a local apt mirror (it'll be slow to download, but...) or use another mirror,.
[22:58] <fliegenderfrosch> backgen: or "do-release-upgrade"
[22:58] <[tla]> If anyone is having troube installing vmware-tools (not vmware server, there are other patches for that) on Hardy, the solution is here: http://projects.tuxx-home.at/?id=vmware_updates  I have used the method described and patched tar files and now have working ethernet etc.
[22:58] <cak054> :)
[22:58] <thebigham> The ubuntu server is so slow =(
[22:58] <FliesLikeABrick_> effowe it sounds like you want to read about wubi
[22:59] <ffm_> KyleK, Sys>Adm>SoftSources.
[22:59] <effowe> it's really not important to access it, but it would be nice..
[22:59] <backgen> fliegenderfrosch: what's "do-release-upgrade"
[22:59] <waseidel> hi slowly some one can help me with a broadcom bcm4311 i can't install it
[22:59] <MilitantPotato> effowe: Yes, it will automatically do it, although it's probably best if you do it yourself, and no, EXT3 file systems are not visable from windows, but linux can work with NTFS drives, so you could exchange files by putting them on a different partition
[22:59] <ffm_> !flame | theaber
[22:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:59] <FliesLikeABrick_> thebigham  if you're downloading an ISO, considering using a torrent
[22:59] <arbrandes> red22, even so, probably not all packages will be available. the DVD is better, in this case.
[22:59] <MEtaLpREs> effowe: i dont know, ive never tried it
[22:59] <crashsystems> use the torrents thebigham
[22:59] <j_humphrey> maco: it didnt work
[22:59] <fliegenderfrosch> !upgrade | backgen
[22:59] <ubotu> backgen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[22:59] <ScorpKing> ffm_: ah ok. that won't help. i can't afford to donwload all the apps that i have on my box again. it cost too much. is there a way i can download all the packages in my current 7.10 apt-move repo somewhere else and use it to make a apt-move repo for 8.04?
[22:59] <backgen> fliegenderfrosch: is that just sudo do-release-upgrade?
[22:59] <backgen> thanks!!!
[22:59] <riesenpixel> hello, i have a problem with my toshiba portege m200 which is not working since ubuntu hardy.. it uses a wacom tablet.. how can I activate it? (doesn't do anything at the moment)
[22:59] <fliegenderfrosch> backgen: see the upgrade notes
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[22:59] <techII> ok, OpenGL apps flicker, so my blender issues seem to be related to X11/OpenGL, anyone have any ideas
[22:59] <ffm_> thebigham, This is the help channel. For discussion, see #ubuntu-offtopic. For trolls, see /dev/null.
[22:59] <fliegenderfrosch> backgen: yes, you can use sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:59] <dmsuperman> Does _anybody_ know where to get xfx linux drivers for? Their website absolutely refuses to load for me, I even let it run overnight and it's still not loaded. I just need to get audio drivers for the xfx nforce 680i lt sli motherboard
[23:00] <effowe> should i be using ext3 partition in ubuntu? what about manually sizing partitions for /root and other directories? should I just let it do it automatically on one?
[23:00] <gafatoa> hello guys ! I've installed Hardy Heron and I can't change the monitor resolution with xrandr or the new tool System/Pref./Screen resolution. xrandr worked perfectly under gusty; Any advice ? (thanks)
[23:00] <ffm_> ScorpKing, I apologize, I don't know.
[23:00] <Ratshell> Hey to all that is having the issues still with the us.archive.ubuntu.com servers I just found a fix that will fix it for now.
[23:00] <waseidel> ScorpKing, could you help me with a wireless broadcom bcm4311 Rev 02 i can't make it work
[23:00] <cak054> apt-get install get me a new job
[23:00] <FliesLikeABrick_> techII see if it happens when you go to System>Preferences>Appearance and set visual effects to none
[23:00] <j_humphrey> maco: heres all the info i think is relevent: http://pastebin.com/m27c578ea
[23:00] <red22> arbrandes: well i was looking to hybrid it from the cd.. my conection is kinda slow so it would have helped a lot if the packages on the regular install cd could be used..
[23:00] <Sajuukkhar> I have a problem, I was updating to hardy heron and it updated BUT xorg had troubles finding my drivers, so i updated through apt-get update then apt-get dist-install, then i went apt-get install bunutu-desktop and what happened i got a dependency error and told me to use sudo apt-get install -f to fix teh dependencies BUT now i still have a problem; Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xkb-data_1.1~c
[23:00] <ScorpKing> ffm_: np. thanks anyway :)
[23:00] <ffm_> effowe, Use ext3, and do so automagically.
[23:00] <MEtaLpREs> eeesh,  i guess i should have install xfce earlier,  repos are going super slow now, i was maxing my connection earlier with the upgrade, now its crawling
[23:00] <ffm_> effowe, unless you want to put home on its own partition.
[23:00] <FliesLikeABrick_> MetaBot switch what repo you're using.  Try lug.mtu.edu
[23:00] <ScorpKing> waseidel: look at the ubuntu docs online. it's there
[23:00] <cak054> apt-get install new girl friend
[23:00] <effowe> ffm: does it matter really? ive heard it's better if you separate certain partitions
[23:01] <Ratshell> hey arbandes, you still here?
[23:01] <FliesLikeABrick_> MEtaLpREs  switch what repo you're using.  Try lug.mtu.edu
[23:01] <arbrandes> red22, oh, I see.  Try copying any *.deb files on the cd to /var/cache/apt/archives, maybe it'll cut down on the total time.
[23:01] <red22> arbrandes: .. well i guess i'll go get it ty.
[23:01] <yoursfaithfully> Hi - how do I upgrade from Gutsy without using the Upgrade Manager?  I'd prefer to download a torrent.
[23:01] <ScorpKing> waseidel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[23:01] <Canaris_> there seems to be no more possibility to change your monitor settings in 8.04 !? Is this correct or am I just not finding it?!?
[23:01] <arbrandes> Ratshell, yup
[23:01] <Lupion> Is it really that hard to change screen resolution in hardy???
[23:01] <red22> arbrandes: ah ok, worth a try ty.
[23:01] <FliesLikeABrick_> yoursfaithfully you burn the CD, put it in, and it will ask you if you want to install updated packages from the disk
[23:01] <Sajuukkhar> anyone?
[23:01] <z0man> Thx ffm_
[23:01] <Ratshell> arbrandes, i found a temp fix that lets you get your files like you would off of the us.archive but without the error :)
[23:01] <karllen1> i have two internal hdd's at (sdb1 and sdc1) they are both an ext3 format. but they are not automounting when i start my pc. how can i mount and automount with root access to everyone including read and write abilities?
[23:01] <FliesLikeABrick_> yoursfaithfully alternatively you can use APT tools from the command line
[23:01] <MEtaLpREs> FliesLikeABrick its fine, its only got like 10 mins left anyway, i dont want to stop the install half way through
[23:01] <waseidel> ScorpKing, i have already installed but i can't detect a wifi network with the router just at side of the laptop
[23:01] <maco> j_humphrey: in what order did you do those? and does the access point even show up when you do "sudo iwlist scan"?
[23:01] <jimcooncat> effowe: I separate my /home partition because I like to do clean installs instead of dist-upgrades
[23:02] <waseidel> ScorpKing, but let me read this doc
[23:02] <arbrandes> Ratshell, what is it?
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[23:02] <yoursfaithfully> Flies - you mean set my CD-ROM as a repository and use APT to upgrade?
[23:02] <DBautell> yoursfaithfully, use the alternate CD or the DVD
[23:02] <FliesLikeABrick_> MEtaLpREs ok, just remember it in case you want to install anything later, it typically takes 2-3 days or the repos to stop being a smoldering pile of goo
[23:02] <Liquidy> any suggestions of apps for "frapsing" ?
[23:02] <arbrandes> Ratshell, what is the fix, I mean
[23:02] <j_humphrey> maco: the AP does show up, and I did those in the order they are written down
[23:02] <Theo_> is swap necessary? I am installing 8.04 and I got 4 partitions including the ext3 filesystem. It says that I cannot create anymore partitions (509mb left). Do i need to make a swap partition?
[23:02] <effowe> hm, ok. . now to hardware compatibility, is there a list of hardware that's compatible so i can check mine against it?
[23:02] <backgen> fliegenderfrosch: hmm the upgrade notes are only for Fawn to Gutsy...not for Gutsy to Heron...are they the same thing though?
[23:02] <FliesLikeABrick_> Theo_  how much RAM do you have?
[23:02] <dmsuperman> nobody knows where to get xfx linux drivers at all?
[23:02] <MEtaLpREs> FliesLikeABrick yea thats fine, i doubt i will be installing much over the next few days anyway
[23:02] <yoursfaithfully> Thanks everyone!
[23:02] <FliesLikeABrick_> yoursfaithfully if you burn a hardy disk and put it into your CD drive while you're using Ubuntu, it will show you a dialog on upgrading
[23:02] <Ratshell> arbrandes, make backup of the one your got right now your sources.list file and then edit the source.list and replace all us.archive.ubuntu.com with no.archive.ubuntu.com run sudo apt-get update and then do whatever you wanted with it will work np
[23:02] <Theo_> 2GB
[23:03] <ffm_> z0man, np.
[23:03] <FliesLikeABrick_> Theo_ you should be ok without swap, but swap is always recommended
[23:03] <Sajuukkhar> I have a problem, I was updating to hardy heron and it updated BUT xorg had troubles finding my drivers, so i updated through apt-get update then apt-get dist-install, then i went apt-get install bunutu-desktop and what happened i got a dependency error and told me to use sudo apt-get install -f to fix teh dependencies BUT now i still have a problem; Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/xkb-data_1.1~c
[23:03] <ScorpKing> waseidel: do it from the terminal. the gui doesn't always work well with wireless. i don't use wireless a lot so i'm not sure how that's done
[23:03] <j_humphrey> maco, i also did the iwconfig essid thing, and it didnt work
[23:03] <sebastian> Does anyone know why "gdmsetup" hangs?
[23:03] <arbrandes> Ratshell, oh, I see! "no" is norway, isn't it?
[23:03] <Theo_> why can't i make one?
[23:03] <jimcooncat> Theo_: you may be able to use a swapfile, but I don't know how in Ubuntu
[23:03] <sebastian> Ow! It worked.. like 2 minutes later
[23:03] <FliesLikeABrick_> theaber does your hard drive already have 4 partitions?
[23:03] <Ratshell> arbrandes, I think so but it works and the stuffs in english :)
[23:03] <arbrandes> Ratshell, cool, I'm going to try it in a little while! thanks
[23:03] <Ratshell> np arbrandes
[23:03] <jeriath> can anyone help me with setting up a dhcp server in ubuntu.....i used the same process that i used in 7.10 but it doesnt want to work in 8.04 :(
[23:03] <FliesLikeABrick_> Theo_ a hard drive can only hold 4 primary partitions at once
[23:04] <ffm_> Ratshell, Is your nick Rat's Hell, or Rat Shell?
[23:04] <FliesLikeABrick_> jereme it should be exactly the same as 8.04, I've done it a number of times on gutsy and hardy
[23:04] <Ratshell> ffm_ ratshell
[23:04] <avianchaosx> hi all, a quick question, is anyone else having a really slow connection to archive.ubuntu.com? my apt-get is stuck in getting stuff, it sems.
[23:04] <llin-ubuntu> Is upgrading a good idea or do people have errors when they upgrade VS clean install? (I know that is a general question but i just want to know if the people who upgraded are mostly stable afterwards)
[23:04] <arbrandes> lol, ffm_ Ratshell
[23:04] <Ratshell> lol yeah :)
[23:04] <maco> j_humphrey: is this your access point? 2WIRE882
[23:04] <effowe> anyone have a link to a hardware compatibility list?
[23:04] <TwinX> sebastian; try sudo updatedb, and try gdmsetup again
[23:04] <j_humphrey> maco: yes
[23:04] <jeriath> llin-ubuntu: i had a lot of problems updating
[23:04] <jeriath> i needed to do a clean install
[23:05] <FliesLikeABrick_> jeriath did you upgrade today or a while ago?
[23:05] <Theo_> so I can't have 4 partitions?
[23:05] <arbrandes> 15 packages to go, and counting...
[23:05] <jeriath> i upgraded with the last rc
[23:05] <llin-ubuntu> I downloaded the 32bit alternate hardy heron ISO and I have it burnt, i'm at a crossroads of what to do with it
[23:05] <maco> j_humphrey: when you look with network manager, does your access point show up? is it visible?
[23:05] <j_humphrey> Theo_: you can have a maximum of 4 partitions, unless you use a logical parition
[23:05] <FliesLikeABrick_> Theo_ you can, but you would have to change how your hard drive is partitioned now so that some of the partitions are created as extended partitions
[23:05] <jeriath> and it screwed everything up
[23:05] <techII> FliesLikeABrick_: glxgears isn't flickering now, haven't tried blender, so it seems like a compiz/AIGLX/compositing problem
[23:05] <karllen1> any one
[23:05] <deadlock> Hello all. I no longer have my 3rd party repos, where can i find a list of them.
[23:05] <arbrandes> llin-ubuntu, is it an upgrade? No need to burn it.
[23:05] <ibleed> has anyone installed ubuntu from a entry in grub pointing to an iso file as shown in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=316093 i am wondering what the sizes of the two partitions needs to be, for ubuntu installation, and for the iso itself.  also wondering where i would get the vmlinuz and initrd.gz for hardy so i could do this
[23:05] <lekremyelsew> hai everone, update issues. the updater tries to reload the repository and it gets through 11 out of 20 files and fails. it fails on the Translation-en_US files, whats the problem
[23:05] <dmsuperman> How is it possible that there are no linux drivers for an entire company's line of motherboards?
[23:05] <deadlock> I cant find nvidia-settings in repos anymore
[23:05] <ScorpKing> jeriath: if you just copy /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to the same location on your new instalation it should work.
[23:05] <stbain> lekremyelsew: servers are overwhelmed
[23:05] <dmsuperman> All I want is XFX motherboard drivers :S
[23:05] <SOTI> Question: http://forums.techguy.org/unix-linux/706843-atheros-ar5bxb63-ubuntu-8-04-a.html read what's there, I seriously need help on that.
[23:05] <FliesLikeABrick_> dmsuperman "motherboards" don't have drivers.  The individual components on the motherboard do
[23:06] <j_humphrey> maco: yes it is, but when i try to connect to it anyway i try, it never works, even though it did in hardy, I believe it's because the wireless driver changed from ipw3945 to iwl3945
[23:06] <llin-ubuntu> I have it burnt because I no longer have the gutsy gibbon CD
[23:06] <jeriath> ScorpKing: i dont have it to copy :/
[23:06] <FliesLikeABrick_> techII ok, hopefully this  gives you some direction to look for your answers in.  You may want to post on the forums for this problem, and mention what you've found so far
[23:06] <Theo_> should my filesystem partiion be primary or logical?
[23:06] <FliesLikeABrick_> techII the odds of your problem being solved while the channel is this busy are slim
[23:06] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick, obviously, but you still get drivers for the onboard audio and such
[23:06] <j_humphrey> maco it worked in gutsy*
[23:06] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick, which are part of that motherboard
[23:06] <llin-ubuntu> But i still have gutsy gibbon 32bit installed on all of my computers
[23:06] <matrix|ab> how can a switch to a different audio device
[23:06] <FliesLikeABrick_> dmsuperman what audio chipset are you looking for?
[23:06] <lekremyelsew> stbain: haha that makes perfect sense, have u seen this before?
[23:06] <ScorpKing> jeriath: look at man dhcpd then. i prefer dnsmasq
[23:06] <techII> FliesLikeABrick_: ok, blender still crashes, but it doesn't flicker
[23:06] <FliesLikeABrick_> matrix|ab look at gnome's audio configuration under system->preerences
[23:06] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick, it has a nvidia 680i lt sli chipset, is that the one?
[23:06] <jeriath> ScorpKing: im using dnsmasq
[23:06] <matrix|ab> FliesLikeABrick: no. option isn't there
[23:07] <x1250> someone on ibex yet?
[23:07] <stbain> lekremyelsew: I equate it to curse.com being overwhelmed on WoW patch day when everyone is trying to update their broken Warcraft mods
[23:07] <FliesLikeABrick_> dmsuperman go to system>administration>Hardware drivers and check the box to install the nvidia drivers
[23:07] <arbrandes> llin-ubuntu, you can use the alternate cd to upgrade.  Mount the iso on the loop device (mount -o loop ubuntu.iso /media/loop), and run gksu "sh /media/loop/cdromupgrade"
[23:07] <maco> j_humphrey: well you should be able to "sudo modprobe -r iwl3945" (might have to do it on the other things that show up when you "lsmod | grep 3945" first because of dependencies, then "sudo modprobe ipw3945"
[23:07] <ScorpKing> jeriath: ah ok. can you pastebin dnsmasq.conf?
[23:07] <maco> j_humphrey: and that might work
[23:07] <Lupion> does anyone know why in hardy dpkg-reconfigure doesn't show the driver dialog nor the screen resolution dialog??????
[23:07] <maco> Lupion: because gutsy's doesnt either?
[23:07] <FliesLikeABrick_> Lupion add -pmedium before the packagename
[23:07] <lekremyelsew> stbain: lol. how long wud u guess before it cools down?
[23:07] <stbain> lekremyelsew: probably a day or two
[23:07] <FliesLikeABrick_> maco no, it is because of the threshold it is using for "what kinds of questions do you want to be asked"
[23:08] <maco> j_humphrey: im confused by people having issues with iwl3945....it makes me want to try out my laptop on their network
[23:08] <j_humphrey> maco: i tried to modprobe ipw3945 already, and it said it doesnt exist, as it is no longer shipped with 8.XX and above
[23:08] <llin-ubuntu> Will upgrading erase any of my settings?
[23:08] <matrix|ab> how can a switch to a different audio device
[23:08] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick, I have no "system -> administration -> hardware drivers"
[23:08] <grzyb> err is there alsa-modules package for hardy ?
[23:08] <lekremyelsew> stbain, mmkay
[23:08] <jeriath> ScorpKing: whats the file location?
[23:08] <maco> j_humphrey: compile it?
[23:08] <FliesLikeABrick_> maco j_humphrey I have a iwl3945 working perfectly under hardy
[23:08] <Theo_> should my filesystem partiion be primary or logical? If I only have space for one more partition on my harddrive it means i cannot have swap. is this really bad?
[23:08] <aaroncampbell> I was part way through a dist upgrade ("fetching the upgrades"), and it kicked me out to the KDE login screen.  I logged back in, and the upgrade process was gone.  I re-opened Adept Manager, and the version upgrade button is gone, but it says that I have 1024 upgradable packages.  If I just upgrade them will everything work OK?
[23:08] <arbrandes> llin-ubuntu, files and most configuration is left intact.
[23:08] <maco> FliesLikeABrick_: so do i. his is confusing me
[23:08] <tanath> llin-ubuntu, it shouldn't
[23:08] <ScorpKing> jeriath: /etc/dnsmasq.conf i think
[23:08] <red22> FliesLikeABrick: if you insert the regular (not the alternative) 8.04 cd.. it will take you through the steps to upgrade as well?  is this what you are saying?  Or will it just attempt to clean install?
[23:08] <j_humphrey> FliesLikeABrickbut mine's not, did you do anything different;y?
[23:08] <tanath> llin-ubuntu, not unless something goes wrong
[23:08] <FliesLikeABrick_> aaroncampbell that should work fine
[23:08] <ek> Can anyone tell me what to use in order to check if there is a CD in the CD device? (shell script-wise)
[23:08] <maco> FliesLikeABrick_: like i said, when others cant make it work i want to go to their network and prove that its their router, not the driver
[23:08] <FliesLikeABrick_> j_humphrey it juts worked
[23:08] <FFEMTcJ> is there anyway to tell if my system updated from RC to the release version?
[23:09] <llin-ubuntu> Thanks guys, i'll try upgrading then
[23:09] <Lupion> FliesLikeABrick_ that was no godd
[23:09] <FliesLikeABrick_> maco sounds reasonable ;)
[23:09] <maco> red22: no. hast to be alternate
[23:09] <tanath> llin-ubuntu, at least, not if you use the upgrade manager
[23:09] <FliesLikeABrick_> FFEMTcJ if update-manager shows no updates, you are updated to release
[23:09] <Lupion> maco i would say in gutsy, they showed in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:09] <j_humphrey> FliesLikeABrick and maco here is the bug report already done by someone: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/185037
[23:09] <ScarEye> guys, what is a good vnc server for ubuntu 8.04 KDE4 ? What would you recommend ?
[23:09] <FFEMTcJ> ok.. the reason i ask is cause it hasnt updated since the full version came out
[23:09] <maco> Lupion: but it wouldnt ask you bout the screen, just about keyboard
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[23:09] <arbrandes> tanath, llin-ubuntu, the alternate-cd contains a version of update-manager, so it should all be the same.
[23:09] <lekremyelsew> stbain: the user number on the IRC is huge today
[23:10] <darkscript> can anybody help me?
[23:10] <maco> Lupion: if you used -phigh in feisty itd just ask graphics questions.  -phigh in gutsy/hardy does nothing but backup the config
[23:10] <jeriath> ScorpKing: well apparently everything in it is commented out :/
[23:10] <RyanPrior> Anybody else having trouble downloading the latest package lists from the repositories?
[23:10] <arbrandes> darkscript, depends, what's your problem? :)
[23:10] <darkscript> pornoview is segfaulting me and this is a time sensitive issue
[23:10] <tanath> arbrandes, thought so, but i haven't actually upgraded from a cd before
[23:10] <FliesLikeABrick_> ScarEye there is one built into KDE
[23:10] <stbain> lekremyelsew: release day for the win
[23:10] <llin-ubuntu> I already have the Hardy Heron alternate CD burnt
[23:10] <darkscript> its really lame
[23:10] <maco> Lupion: without the -phigh, on gutsy, it just exited before it reached the graphics part
[23:10] <darkscript> and ticking me off
[23:10] <avianchaosx> hi all, a quick question, is anyone else having a really slow connection to archive.ubuntu.com? my apt-get is stuck in getting stuff, it seems.
[23:10] <ScarEye> FliesLikeABrick:  Really...
[23:10] <lekremyelsew> stbain: :)
[23:10] <FliesLikeABrick_> Lupion  try -plow
[23:10] <maco> avianchaosx: of course
[23:10] <arbrandes> tanath, yup, doin it right now
[23:10] <maco> avianchaosx: its a release day
[23:10] <RoC_MasterMind>  I guess do-upgrade-release isn't working so well right now
[23:10] <darkscript> anybody have any ideas on why pornoview segfaults?
[23:10] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick, the only chipset that anything says about my motherboard is the motherboard chipset, the 680i lt sli. for audio, everywhere it just says "high definition 8 channel audio". every google search i perform for "680i lt sli linux driver" results in nothing for linux
[23:10] <FliesLikeABrick_> ScarEye yes, GNOME and KDE have VNC servers built  in.  Look through the settings/preferences
[23:10] <Lupion> maco anyway... in hardy heron displayconfig-gtk doesn't work... in gutsy it did
[23:10] <RyanPrior> avianchaosx: Yup, today is going to be nuts for accessing the repos.
[23:11] <sidewalk> im having problems with some packages that won't install
[23:11] <stbain> lekremyelsew: As far as I can tell, this release is reaaally getting a lot of action and reaction from the masses as well as the press. Maybe because it's LTS? Dunno.
[23:11] <darkscript> -_-"
[23:11] <JZServices> Hi, is there anyone that would be able to point me to a DVD iso link that isn't torrent?
[23:11] <ScorpKing> jeriath: can you pastebin it?
[23:11] <Theo_> can the computer name specified in the installation be changed later-on?
[23:11] <sidewalk> what do you guys recommend?
[23:11] <darkscript> ubuntu is lame
[23:11] <maco> Lupion: yes, that's being removed, i think
[23:11] <llin-ubuntu> It's probably swapmed (I downloaded my Hardy Heron from bittorrent, maxed out my connection both up and down there, I'm gonna seed this for a while too :D )
[23:11] <FliesLikeABrick_> dmsuperman nvidia chipsets (besides video) typically have *horribly* Linux support
[23:11] <thedonvaughn> darkscript: thanks for the info.  next?
[23:11] <llin-ubuntu> swamped**
[23:11] <RoC_MasterMind> JZServices, just use one of the URL's from the topic but remove the .torrent at the end.
[23:11] <dbristow> JZServices: ubuntu doesn't come as a DVD, it's small enough for CD-ROM
[23:11] <maco> Lupion: the new screen resolution thing does everything it does except choose the driver
[23:11] <tanath> JZServices, why would you not want to use the torrent?
[23:11] <FliesLikeABrick_> llin-ubuntu yes, torrents are great for distributiong Linux distros, especially on release day
[23:11] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick_, so I'm basically just screwed?
[23:11] <FFEMTcJ> does anyone know if evolution in 8.04 will support exchange 2007?
[23:11] <arbrandes> JZServices, you should use the torrent if possible.  Otherwise, it'll be veeeeeery sloooooooow
[23:11] <llin-ubuntu> I know :D I love torrents
[23:11] <FliesLikeABrick_> JZServices it'll take you a LONG time to download it from a server without a torrent
[23:11] <Lupion> FliesLikeABrick_ -plow didn't make it either
[23:11] <FliesLikeABrick_> dmsuperman possibly
[23:12] <pushpop> DO you have to install 8.04 from scratch or can you upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10 via updates?
[23:12] <ScarEye> FliesLikeABrick:  I will do that know.  thanks for your help.. You are a gentlemand and a scholar
[23:12] <ubuntuROX> umm,, I love its perceived lameness :)
[23:12] <FliesLikeABrick_> Lupion I'm not sure, sorry
[23:12] <tanath> JZServices, torrents are most efficient
[23:12] <jeriath> ScorpKing: http://pastebin.com/m1ce1018b
[23:12] <maco> dbristow: it can
[23:12] <FFEMTcJ> pushpop: you can update using update manager
[23:12] <stbain> FFEMTcJ: I believe it supports it out of the box. Not sure, but I think I saw that on the features list.
[23:12] <FliesLikeABrick_> pushpop you can do it via updates
[23:12] <jPratt> My install is stuck at 82 % it just says Scanning Mirror been there for about an hour now
[23:12] <pushpop> thanks
[23:12] <dmsuperman> FliesLikeABrick_, sigh... thanks for the help anyway :(
[23:12] <jPratt> Hey Nevermind
[23:12] <Lupion> maco: but my problem is that it get's really messed up resolutions
[23:12] <FliesLikeABrick_> pushpop you will want to switch to another mirror, not the default one
[23:12] <HayHay> Hi, Have looked in preferences and other places - Can't find where I can set my mouse to open things - Desktop Folders, Programs, etc. - With a Single Left Click - Any idea's?
[23:12] <FFEMTcJ> stbain: 7.10 didnt, tis why i ask.. ty
[23:12] <dbristow> maco: I'm not saying you can't burn it as a DVD-ROM, it's just that you don't have t
[23:12] <dbristow> t
[23:12] <dbristow> to
[23:12] <RoC_MasterMind> pushpop, you do it from an "upgrade", but don't try it today....too slow
[23:12] <dbristow> stupid keyboard
[23:12] <FloodBot2> dbristow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <sidewalk> hey guys
[23:12] <FliesLikeABrick_> pushpop the default one is slow because it is release day.  Try using lug.mtu.edu
[23:12] <kenan> where do I go to disable rotating cube when I use the scroll button on the mouse? I don't see anything that shows that Scroll will switch desktops
[23:12] <RyanPrior> dispalyconfig-gtk works fine fo rme.
[23:12] <sidewalk> i have like 10 packages that won't install
[23:12] <maco> dbristow: theres a dvd version that does live and alternate and has some extra packages
[23:12] <sidewalk> what do you recommend?
[23:12] <flamedryad> hi ya'll
[23:12] <dbristow> maco: ok, haven't heard of that
[23:12] <IndyGunFreak> sidewalk: probably cuz the servers are bogged down, wait
[23:13] <ubuntuROX> I suggest you wait for a day or two
[23:13] <JZServices> Flies... I was able to download CD release at 3.4 MB/s
[23:13] <maco> Lupion: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[23:13] <Lupion> maco, i mean really low resolutions (640x480 using nvidia driver)
[23:13] <kenan> Sorry, im talking about Compiz
[23:13] <FliesLikeABrick_> JZServices then you got lucky ;)
[23:13] <ubuntuROX> or download the cd.
[23:13] <RyanPrior> kenan: There's a setting that makes scrolling on the plain desktop switch cube faces.
[23:13] <sidewalk> IndyGunFreak: i think not
[23:13] <maco> Lupion: have you restarted X since installing nvidia's stuff?
[23:13] <tanath> HayHay, nautilus prefs > behaviour
[23:13] <sidewalk> IndyGunFreak: they should work?
[23:13] <waseidel> help reading a manual of ubuntu 8.04 it says the wireless broadcom bcm4311 already comes at the kernell from 2.6.24 and i have 2.6.24-16 but it dont work
[23:13] <j_humphrey> maco: So what do you think could work?
[23:13] <kenan> RyanPrior: where do i disable it
[23:13] <IndyGunFreak> sidewalk: ok then super genius, figure out why they aren't downloading
[23:13] <BrianB04> So, I wanted to say that everyone involved with Ubuntu knocked it out of the park this release. It has fixed numerous issues I have run into with Ubuntu in the past.
[23:13] <Lupion> maco yep!, before nvidia i could get it at 800x600, after nvidia (and X restart) 640x480
[23:14] <emivan> \j #ubuntu-br
[23:14] <maco> waseidel: the driver's there. just not the firmware. install b43-fwcutter to get firmware
[23:14] <HayHay> tanath: Thanks - Will give a whirl - see how much damage I can cause - <grin>
[23:14] <waseidel> ok
[23:14] <maco> Lupion: leave it to nvidia...
[23:14] <RyanPrior> kenan: You probably need to install ccsm to disable it. I'm disappointed that they enabled it in the first place - it's really annoying.
[23:14] <waseidel> maco ill se
[23:14] <Lupion> maco what do you mean?
[23:14] <kenan> RyanPrior: yes it is annoying and i do have ccsm installed i just dont know where to go
[23:14] <kesi> hi all.  Gutsy was my first install.  I'm going to update to HH but wondering how long it will take through the Update Manager over DSL
[23:14] <JZServices> exit
[23:14] <emivan> #ubuntu-br
[23:14] <kemi> how do i enable compiz effects from the livecd? i have installed nvidia-glx and restarted X but it nothing happens
[23:14] <maco> Lupion: tsk tsk @ nvidia
[23:14] <RyanPrior> kenan: It's probably either in the main settings module or in the cube desktop module.
[23:14] <tanath> HayHay, that will work in nautilus, and should work for the desktop too, since nautilus draws the desktop by default
[23:14] <FFEMTcJ> kesi: probably a while.. wait a few days until it isnt so busy
[23:15] <emivan> +s
[23:15] <alaric_> !list
[23:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[23:15] <maco> kesi: dont do it today
[23:15] <llin-ubuntu> Does anyone know how much bandwidth the ubuntu servers have?  I'de like to know how many megabits they use on a day like today when obviously they are maxed out
[23:15] <jPratt> Is it Possible to Update to hardy via The manager?
[23:15] <maco> kesi: itll take FOREVER if you do it today.  too many people doing it
[23:15] <kesi> macd, FFEMTcJ OK thanks.
[23:15] <Lupion> maco i'm guessing it also has something to do with xserver, don't you think?
[23:15] <HayHay> tanath: This might sound stupid but where do I find nautilus ?
[23:15] <maco> Lupion: yeah um whats "xrandr --prop" say?
[23:15] <RyanPrior> llin-ubuntu: Ask the ubuntu-devel mailing list. Somebody probably knows.
[23:15] <KyleK> llin-ubuntu: not enough ;)
[23:16] <ScarEye> Is it safe to say that there is more development being done for gnome than kde for ubuntu ?
[23:16] <tanath> HayHay, it's the file manager
[23:16] <lekremyelsew> stbain: ubuntu is all over the tech news, and much more than the last time
[23:16] <Lupion> maco, make  640x480        50.0*
[23:16] <Lupion>    320x240        51.0
[23:16] <RyanPrior> ScarEye: Ubuntu is Gnome-only. Kubuntu has support from Canonical as well, but it is a smaller operation.
[23:16] <llin-ubuntu> <grin> they must have alot though because ubuntu is a pretty big name in the linux world
[23:16] <HayHay> tanath: oh ok - thx again - will write this down for future reference.
[23:16] <emivan> Como entro em um chat em português?
[23:16] <Lupion> make the same two resolutions the system->preferences->resolution gets
[23:16] <maco> kenan: ccsm -> desktop -> rotate cube -> bindings -> rotate cube -> mouse rotate left & mouse rotate right...disable those
[23:16] <Lupion> maco the same two resolutions the system->preferences->resolution gets
[23:17] <jPratt> Ubuntu Is not GNOME only i can run KDE with a few clicks :P
[23:17] <RyanPrior> !pt | emivan
[23:17] <ubotu> emivan: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:17] <maco> ScarEye: yes
[23:17] <j_humphrey> maco: no suggestions?
[23:17] <zzorn> Any idea how to re-enable firefox 2 plugins after upgrading to 8.4?  Clicking on the enable button doesn't do anything.
[23:17] <ScorpKing> jeriath: look at line 130 on that pastebin
[23:17] <flamedryad> otay ya'll
[23:17] <maco> j_humphrey: maybe able to compile the ipw driver for it but :-/ your computer scares me
[23:17] <j_humphrey> heh
[23:18] <Lupion> maco I also tried with nvidia-settings (no good) and displayconfig-gtk (I COULD test the right configuration but after hitting "keep this configuration" buton I got back to this ugly low res)
[23:18] <BubbleTea> When I try update it keep saying u need to check your internet
[23:18] <jeriath> ScorpKing: yea, i just uncommented that and changed the range to what i wanted it
[23:18] <jeriath> ScorpKing: should that do it?
[23:18] <vanzemaljac> lol
[23:18] <CaptainMorgan> how's everything liking their new release ??
[23:18] <ScorpKing> jeriath: just that. :) and restart dnsmasq
[23:18] <CaptainMorgan> thing=one
[23:18] <maco> Lupion: better than displayconfig-gtk ever did for me...i was left with no X at all after trying that thing on my mom's computer
[23:18] <flamedryad> my external is giving me a hard time when linux tries to mount
[23:18] <Lupion> maco :O
[23:19] <maco> BubbleTea: kinda hard to update from a server that's down
[23:19] <RyanPrior> CaptainMorgan: feel free to chat about it in #ubuntu-offtopic -- this channel is just for help :-)
[23:19] <ScorpKing> jeriath: line 136 might be a better one to uncomment
[23:19] <flamedryad> there is a security issue between windows and linux
[23:19] <KyleK> hah mirror.us.kernel.org is three days old
[23:19] <maco> BubbleTea: its not totally down but...might as well be
[23:19] <zzorn> Without adblock and flashblock for firefox the internet is a scary place.  Including Firefox 3 was maybe not a so good move.
[23:19] <KyleK> least it works!
[23:19] <flamedryad> i know there is a fix but i need to be on a windows box
[23:19] <Ratshell> howdy anyone else having the us.archive.ubuntu.com error thing?
[23:19] <flamedryad> so what is the fix??????????????
[23:19] <maco> zzorn: there's adblock plus on ff3...im using it
[23:19] <MEtaLpREs> ok so i just installed xubuntu-desktop in ubuntu,  now how do i switch from gnome to xfce?  there is nothing on the login screen to choose the desktop environment, theres only a login box,  do i have to push a key to get the option to popup?
[23:20] <ubuntuROX> zzorn you are welcome to use firefox 2 as well.
[23:20] <maco> MEtaLpREs: bottom left corner i think
[23:20] <ubuntuROX> all the extentions work for it
[23:20] <maco> MEtaLpREs: "sessions"
[23:20] <ScorpKing> jeriath: after changing it save and run sudo /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart
[23:20] <matt444> my torrent is still slow slow slow.
[23:20] <lewench> How can I update my ubuntu from 7.10 to the new one?
[23:20] <CaptainMorgan> RyanPrior, define "offtopic" -- my question appears is an implicit help question too :)
[23:20] <matt444> only 26k
[23:20] <kemi> how do i enable compiz from the livecd? I have installed nvidia-glx and restarted X but it nothing happens
[23:20] <Ratshell> upgrade!
[23:20] <Ratshell> !upgrade
[23:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:20] <zzorn> ubuntuROX: I'm using firefox 2, but it seems all my add ons got disabled
[23:20] <RyanPrior> MEtaLpREs: Did you install a new GDM theme or something? There should be a logo in the lower left corner for you to choose options
[23:20] <MEtaLpREs> maco: there is no buttons anywhere on the login screen, hardy changed the screen and got rid of that option
[23:20] <maco> lewench: tell the normal update manager to check for updates.  wait 2 days first though...the servers are too slow. itll take like 5 hours
[23:20] <KyleK> MEtaLpREs: look at the /etc/alternatives/x-session-manager symlink
[23:21] <lewench> maco, lol alright thanks
[23:21] <xmd> kubuntu
[23:21] <xmd> ?
[23:21] <ubuntuROX> make sure you have completely exited firefox3 before starting firefox2
[23:21] <maco> MEtaLpREs: seriously? O_O i use the facebrowser but...im pretty sure there's a button somewhere even on the normal one
[23:21] <lewench> !update
[23:21] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[23:21] <Ratshell> maco, the servers aren't slow you mean the us.archive.ubuntu.com one?
[23:21] <sidewalk> how do i configure auto start applications?
[23:21] <arbrandes> MEtaLpREs, if you're using xfce session manager, take a loot at this: http://www.xfce.org/documentation/4.2/manuals/xfce4-session
[23:21] <blbrown> woot!!!!
[23:21] <RyanPrior> CaptainMorgan: Anything which is social banter, like impressions of something or friendly discussion, is offtopic for this channel.
[23:21] <ubuntuROX> then just go get your extentions from mozilla
[23:21] <Lupion> maco if running xrandr -q in a ubuntu system (hardy amd64 nvidia 6 series and 22'' widescreen) using the drivers from the repositories (restricted drivers) gives pretty low res (640x480 & 320x240 ONLY) whose problem is it? xserver or nvidia?
[23:21] <blbrown> is this it for team ubuntu, the ground breaking version
[23:21] <flamedryad> any body? V.V
[23:21] <tanath> zzorn, i'm assuming you checked for updates to your extensions?
[23:22] <zzorn> ubuntuROX: ok, I'll experiment with it.  Thanks.
[23:22] <CaptainMorgan> blbrown, why?
[23:22] <GIn> how do you upgrade from rc to hardy?
[23:22] <maco> Ratshell: lots of the mirrors are going bonkers right now. i dont know which, i just know the forums and channels keep getting hit with "omg i cant update it just keeps loading and cant reach anything! is archive.ubuntu.com gone??"
[23:22] <zzorn> tanath, yep.  Started firefox 3 fisrt, I guess it messed up the profile for firefox 2, or something.
[23:22] <Ratshell> maco, there is a way to fix that.
[23:22] <jeriath> ScorpKing: ive tried both and neither work :(
[23:22] <n6rej> anyone running ubuntu server and had major problems with 8?
[23:22] <maco> GIn: did you install all of your updates for the last week?
[23:22] <Ratshell> maco I've fixed that problem :)
[23:22] <GIn> maco: yea.
[23:22] <maco> Ratshell: find another repo?
[23:22] <kenan> I checked ccsm and rotate left and right with mouse is disabled but it still switches desktop when i use the scroll, can someone help please?
[23:22] <maco> GIn: then you're there
[23:22] <Ratshell> maco, yep
[23:22] <tanath> zzorn, you might try the nightly tester tools extension to enable old ones that should work. be careful though. if you enable the wrong one, you won't be able to start firefox with that profile
[23:22] <RyanPrior> flamedryad: You haven't given us any useful information, so we can't really help you yet. You need to explain exactly what is wrong, what error messages you get, etc.
[23:22] <tanath> zzorn, so enable them one at a time
[23:23] <alex_mayorga> OMG! it's packed in here
[23:23] <zzorn> tanath, Ok, thanks.
[23:23] <Lupion> if running xrandr -q in a ubuntu system (hardy amd64 nvidia 6 series and 22'' widescreen) using the drivers from the repositories (restricted drivers) gives pretty low res (640x480 & 320x240 ONLY) whose problem is it? xserver or nvidia?
[23:23] <ScorpKing> jeriath: ok hang on. gonna find my config file for you
[23:23] <GIn> maco: but it's a RC version. :\
[23:23] <tanath> zzorn, if you end up enabling one that makes it not work, just run firefox 2 with that profile to fix it
[23:23] <Nomad_> i got a little, silly, annoying question, on wich i've been 'trying' to get some result, my brain might be damage severely since  i have'nt figured out at this time, but what would be the find command to delete dir older than few days?
[23:23] <alex_mayorga> how do I check if I'm already on the release?
[23:23]  * baddog pokes #ubuntu on DevNode
[23:23] <jeriath> ScorpKing: thanks
[23:23] <zzorn> tanath, k
[23:23] <maco> kenan: woah youre right. freaky
[23:23] <gaucho> Fucking shit! Ubuntu 6 works fine! On Ubuntu 7, my microphone don't work! I'm Ubuntu all my sound card don't work! What the fuck are you drinking?
[23:23] <maco> GIn: no its not
[23:23] <Nomad_> find ./ -type d -mtime +1 -exec rm -rf {} \; is the best i could have right now and it wont del dir
[23:23] <WelshDragon> Helloooo. Does anyone know of any software similar to LogMeIn Rescue that will run on ubuntu. The emphasis is on the feature that allows you to control someone computer with them installing any software.
[23:24] <maco> GIn: you did all your updates since last friday's RC snapshot, therefore, you're on final
[23:24] <RyanPrior> !language | gaucho
[23:24] <ubotu> gaucho: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[23:24] <alex_mayorga> gaucho: keep it family friendly
[23:24] <ScorpKing> jeriath: i'm just starting my server. it's on there
[23:24] <jeriath> alright
[23:24] <ubuntuROX> GIN If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[23:24] <maco> WelshDragon: regular ol' VNC
[23:24] <flamedryad> RryanPrior the main issue had been fixed but there is a security flag made by windows that is messing up my external
[23:24] <WelshDragon> maco, Aye, but that requires them to install VNC.
[23:24] <rectec794613> I'm having a problam playing songs in gutsy
[23:24] <WelshDragon> I sort of needed an easier way to control there computer
[23:25]  * baddog wants to know where 8.04 is
[23:25] <HayHay> tanath: Single click works great - Thanks again.
[23:25] <RyanPrior> baddog: Read the topic.
[23:25] <maco> WelshDragon: bomgar is a very expensive linux-compatible way to do logmein that happens to have a free trial just like logmein
[23:25] <tanath> HayHay, np :)
[23:25] <baddog> oh :P
[23:25] <vlt> WelshDragon: Easier?
[23:25] <baddog> lol
[23:25] <Ovation13579> Hi All - I've just upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy on my Compaq EVO Laptop and now when I log in with either of my users Gnome fails to start (even in Failsafe). Can anyone help my diagnose this?? Thanks
[23:25] <WelshDragon> Ok thanks alot maco
[23:25] <maco> vlt: yes, hitting "next" to install vnc is too hard for some people, unfortunately
[23:25] <rattts> hi all....how do i enable syntax highlighting in my terminal.....right now, everything is white, wheter its an executable, or a folder....i want folders to show up with different colors.
[23:26] <cygoku> Hi ppl.
[23:26] <RyanPrior> Ovation13579: Have you tried using the old kernel?
[23:26] <maco> rattts: ls --color
[23:26] <jeriath> wow....i think all of the ubuntu servers are full or something
[23:26] <cygoku> Problem here :( ...
[23:26] <maco> rattts: that should show colors..
[23:26] <jeriath> takes forever to dl anything :/
[23:26] <maco> jeriath: we know
[23:26] <tanath> Ovation13579, wow, that's the opposite from me. every time i tried to log into gnome with gutsy, x crashed. upgrading fixed it :D
[23:26] <maco> jeriath: its a release day
[23:26] <krul> torrents are fast!!!
[23:26] <rectec794613> problem
[23:26] <Ovation13579> No - I haven't even looked at the boot menu - I assume it's listed there?
[23:26] <Stev1> Anyone know if the new server release has much of a GUI or is it command line?
[23:26] <rattts> maco   thats not permanent
[23:26] <maco> jeriath: this happened in october for gutsy and april for feisty an october for edgy....
[23:26] <rattts> its only for one time
[23:26] <flamedryad> RryanPrior all i know is it something to do with the way windows stores info
[23:26] <rattts> i want it permanent
[23:26] <maco> rattts: but does it work?
[23:26] <rattts> yes
[23:27] <gnuskoo1> on hardy is gnash or adobe the best?
[23:27] <kenan> I checked ccsm and rotate left and right with mouse is disabled but it still switches desktop when i use the scroll, can someone help please?
[23:27] <Ovation13579> I have notice that gnome-keyring-daemon is segfaulting all the time, but not sure if it's related.
[23:27] <RyanPrior> Ovation13579: Yup, your old kernel should be there in the boot menu.
[23:27] <cygoku> I have 2 hard drives, the first one 1 ext3 and the other is ntfs ... the ntfs one isn't recognise by Hard Heron, but GParted can see it ... what can I do to use my second hhd ????????
[23:27] <rattts> it works
[23:27] <maco> rattts: ok then in your .bashrc add a line that says: alias 'ls'='ls --color'
[23:27] <rattts> ok hold on
[23:27] <RedBlack> hi
[23:27] <maco> rattts: then save it and when you open a new terminal, it should be colored
[23:27] <marx2k_> !torrents
[23:27] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[23:27] <RyanPrior> flamedryad: I don't know anything about security flags. As far as I know, unless it's encrypted, you should be able to mount the drive just fine.
[23:27] <rattts> hey maco
[23:27] <RedBlack> the dvd version it's out or no?
[23:27] <maco> RedBlack: yes
[23:27] <rattts> where can i find my bash rc
[23:28] <maco> rattts: .bashrc its all one word and the . means it's hidden.  it's in your home directory
[23:28] <mOrO^> should I delete Automatix before upgrading to Hardy??
[23:28] <RedBlack> maco direct link?
[23:28] <n6rej> guys i'm having a real problem with hardy :(  says srst failed to start errorno -16
[23:28] <RyanPrior> cygoku: What do you mean it isn't recognized?
[23:28] <flamedryad> RryanPrior something in it makes me have to use force mount to get in when i plug back into my linux box
[23:28] <Andre_Gondim> rattts, ~/.bashrc
[23:28] <rattts> ok hold on
[23:28] <maco> RedBlack: umm idk but i can link you to the torrent for it, that work?
[23:28]  * n6rej automatix is bad juju
[23:28] <maco> mOrO^: YES
[23:28] <minion_> are there torrents out for kubuntu remix non-dvd?
[23:28] <rectec794613> well when i try to play a song in VLC Media Player or Totem, it stops responding
[23:28] <histo> Sweet flash doesn't work YAY
[23:28] <rectec794613> ANY HELP?
[23:28] <histo> lol
[23:28] <maco> minion_: yes
[23:28] <mOrO^> maco, thanks...WILL DO.
[23:28] <histo> God I love ubuntu's shotgun approach to releasing stuff
[23:28] <cygoku> RyanPrior ... I mean I cannot not access them.
[23:29] <RedBlack> maco idk? or ed2k?
[23:29] <tanath> kenan, in that case it's probably a gnome shortcut that's doing it, rather than compiz
[23:29] <histo> Topic should be changed
[23:29] <Laser87> cygoku: mount it in fstab
[23:29] <RyanPrior> cygoku: What happens when you try to mount it?
[23:29] <Jakoo> hello everyone, I have messed up with the graphic card, the system has set different drivers i hae changed into ati radeon which is the card iuse then after reboot the sytem starts in safe graphic mode. how can i fix it back?
[23:29] <tanath> kenan, there's probably a setting in the configuration editor
[23:29] <ubuntuROX> actually the full version has been running on my pc for like 2 days now
[23:29] <cygoku> Laser87 & RyanPrior ... I cannot find the way to do it.
[23:29] <jPratt> Well I just installed and am Upgrading I love ubuntu the Stickers i got when i ordered My 7.10 (And 8.04 is on its way) is on my laptop God Bless Canonical
[23:29] <RyanPrior> histo: Flash has been working in Hardy for me for months.
[23:29] <corinth> Is there something wrong with nvidia in Hardy? The Hardware Drivers tool says that "nvidia_new" is enabled, but the status is "Not in use" with a red light. I just did a clean install, and I was previously using the RC with no problems. 32-bit Hardy LTS, nvidia geforce 6600.
[23:29] <maco> minion_: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/kubuntu-kde4-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[23:29] <sivel27> anyone else getting really blocky/studdering vlc avi or mkv playback? it seems like the quality of video in vlc linux is way worse than vlc windows.
[23:29] <icesword> hi, good morning
[23:29] <RyanPrior> histo: There may be problems, but hopefully it's something that can be fixed.
[23:29] <goat|work> If I enable the CD as a deb location in Gutsy,  would that set the Hardy update to check the CD for files, instead of all the files in the updates grabbing from the servers?
[23:29] <JacksonVanBuren> <--(first time linux-user): has anybody gotten their ATI card working properly on 8.04?
[23:30] <kenan> tanath:but when i disable rotate cube, it doesnt rotate when i scroll so it must be something in there
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[23:30] <rattts> how do i list hidden directories with ls
[23:30] <ianliu_88> Anyone experiencing troubles with br.archives ?
[23:30] <sivel27> ls -al
[23:30] <rattts> and hidden files
[23:30] <maco> RedBlack: i only have a link to http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[23:30] <RyanPrior> JacksonVanBuren: My ATI card works fine. I used the Restricted Driver Manager to install the driver, and it's fine.
[23:30] <jeegr> Can you start programs threw ssh? Ie. Ventrilo server and after i close my ssh connection, the ventrilo server will still stay up.
[23:30] <flavio__> why are download speeds so slow with the update manager?
[23:30] <emorris> JacksonVanBuren = yes
[23:30] <maco> goat|work: yes
[23:30] <JacksonVanBuren> What happened after you rebooted?
[23:30] <ScorpKing> jeriath: http://pastebin.com/m7263d764 - find and uncomment those ones and change what you need.
[23:30] <goat|work> maco, thank you very much
[23:30] <jeriath> ScorpKing: if you can pastebin that and pm it to me ill take a look at it.....ive got to head out ...thanks for the help though
[23:30] <jeriath> alright
[23:30] <rattts> i dont have a .bashrc file?????????????????
[23:30] <RyanPrior> flavio__: It's release day, so the repos will be very busy for awhile.
[23:30] <jeriath> thanks :D
[23:30] <ibleed> can i non-destructively resize my /home ext3 partition, while i am logged into ubuntu -- ie using the repos version of gparted
[23:30] <jeriath> scorp thanks :D
[23:30] <maco> rattts: sure you do.  ls -A ~
[23:30] <Laser87> cygoku: search the wiki for mount or fstab (can't help u - only know the German wiki)
[23:30] <tanath> kenan, compiz animates changing desktops according to the cube... are you sure you're not still changing desktops, just without the cube animation?
[23:31] <RyanPrior> ibleed: Only if you unmount it first.
[23:31] <ubuntuROX> IM not sure about nvidia, mine might be compromised. I installed it manually back in beta, but now its the restricted drivers version and seems to be working fine.
[23:31] <flavio__> 75kb/s.... thats 10% of my normal speed :/
[23:31] <Odd-rationale> rattts: grab one from /etc/skel/.bashrc if you need one
[23:31] <RedBlack> maco too bad :)
[23:31] <ScorpKing> jeriath: you're welcome. i'm going to bed now. ;)
[23:31] <JacksonVanBuren> Mine looks fine, but I can't enable any effects and I can't get my other monitor to do anything but Clone
[23:31] <maco> ibleed: probably not a good idea
[23:31] <RyanPrior> JacksonVanBuren: When I rebooted things worked fine.
[23:31] <emorris> JacksonVanBuren: it worked fine, it was an upgrade from gutsy,
[23:31] <rattts> i have a .bash_history
[23:31] <jeriath> ScorpKing: night
[23:31] <rattts> thats it
[23:31] <RyanPrior> JacksonVanBuren: pastebin glxinfo for me
[23:31] <tanath> flavio__, you might try a mirror
[23:31] <flavio__> tanath: where?
[23:32] <laeg> i am installing ubuntu from the 7.04 live cd and i want to leave a partition untouched by the installer
[23:32] <rattts> i have a .bash_history   but no .bashrc
[23:32] <JacksonVanBuren> uh.... pastebin glxinfo? I've been using linux for 3 days. help
[23:32] <matt444> why are the torrents so slow? i thought the torrents are supposed to be fast...
[23:32] <maco> rattts: royally freaky.  ok then... create it and put that in there
[23:32] <rectec794613> can anyone help?
[23:32] <jPratt> 5 hours and 8 minutes to upgrade oh dear god
[23:32] <Jakoo> can someone tell me how to fix the graphic drivers back as i have changed them and now i can start in safe mode only....using ati radeon
[23:32] <RyanPrior> laeg: If you don't specify for the live CD installer to format a partition, it shouldn't touch it.
[23:32] <maco> laeg: why?
[23:32] <goat|work> matt444: i got my DL in about 5 min
[23:32] <tanath> flavio__, you can add a country code to the front of the URL, like 'ca.archive...'
[23:32] <RyanPrior> jPratt: BitTorrent is fast!
[23:32] <maco> laeg: thats a year old
[23:32] <emorris> JacksonVanBuren: type it in accessories > terminal
[23:32] <naterwall> does do-release-upgrade get sources from /etc/apt/sources.conf or somewhere else?
[23:32] <rectec794613> :/
[23:32] <laeg> maco: it's what i have
[23:32] <flavio__> oh
[23:32] <flavio__> let's try canada.
[23:32] <maco> matt444: torrents are for taking a load off the servers, not for speed
[23:32] <goat|work> matt444: give it some time, if you have a fat pipe, the seeds will connect eventually
[23:32] <laeg> RyanPrior: i got this WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[23:32] <laeg> well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[23:32] <maco> laeg: why not get the new one?
[23:32] <tanath> flavio__, or whatever's closest
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> rattts: grab one from /etc/skel/.bashrc if you need one
[23:33] <RyanPrior> jPratt: Download the alternate CD via BitTorrent and mount it, then you can upgrade from those packages.
[23:33] <laeg> maco: i will upgrade
[23:33] <kenan> tanath: it isnt changing desktops when rotate cube is off because i have workspace switcher on and when i scroll it still stays on same workspace
[23:33] <cygoku> It's su fucking stupid that an OS doesn't show all installed HDD
[23:33] <Odd-rationale> rattts: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/
[23:33] <tommmy> I downloaded it via torrent and hit 600k/s.. soo
[23:33] <RyanPrior> laeg: It will destroy data **on partitions you've removed or marked to be formatted** -- that means ones you haven't removed, or marked to format, will not be deleted.
[23:34] <Zicks> can anyone help with why emerald doesnt work in hardy heron ?
[23:34] <jPratt> I know about Torrents and Well its easier on me to Upgrade Via The Upgrade manager even though the 2 hours it would take to DL and burn is less i need not manually install anything
[23:34] <RyanPrior> cygoku: You haven't said anything other than "I can't figure it out" - we need some actual info in order to help you.
[23:34] <akorn> anybody know what the keyboard shortcut to get Tracker to pop up is?
[23:34] <maco> laeg: make sure you update to gutsy before going to hardy.  skipping versions, except from LTS to LTS (in this case 6.06 to 8.04) is not supported
[23:34] <laeg> RyanPrior: define 'removed'. i have a apartition i didn't touch in the installer but there is an option where you set / and /home to instead set 'don'tuse'
[23:34] <maco> Zicks: because it's dead
[23:34] <RyanPrior> cygoku: I'd love to help you figure out how to mount the hard drive, but I don't have anything to go on other than "it doesn't work"
[23:34] <tommmy> I doubt you'll download anything from any of the repos... on new distro days, they are slow as crap.
[23:34] <Zicks> maco dead ?
[23:34] <laeg> wtf
[23:34] <maco> Zicks: emerald is for beryl.  beryl is gone.
[23:34] <cygoku> RyanPrior ... What more information do you need ?!?!
[23:34] <gluer> im running Warty Warthog how do i upgrade to 8.04?
[23:34] <tommmy> Better off downloading the CD, and using it as a source in sources.list.
[23:35] <matt444> <goat|work>  usually torrents speed up after 20 minutes or so.  i've been going for 2 hours.  still only 43k.
[23:35] <laeg> maco: wasn't wtfing at you, just the behaviour of this old gaim im client. i know the update procedure ty
[23:35] <RyanPrior> laeg: I don't think that setting something to "don't use" means "remove this partition". Removing a partition would be, for example, deleting your Windows partition to make more room for Ubuntu.
[23:35] <maco> Zicks: it can work with compiz, but its really flaky, and the compiz team no longer supports its continued existence
[23:35] <emorris> cygoku: what are you trying to do?
[23:35] <Zicks> what do we use instead?
[23:35] <BubbleTea> When I try install ubuntu there was 2 hard drive activated . When i installed on the first hard drive it combined together. Did i made a mistake?
[23:35] <macpo4> assuming I have a system running debian, is it possible to install (k/x)ubuntu across the network without first downloading and burning an install cd?
[23:35] <goat|work> matt444: who's your provider? what country?
[23:35] <matt444> i'm thinking of giving up the torrent route and just wait a couple of days until the servers are faster.
[23:35] <maco> Zicks: gtk-window-decorator or the kde one
[23:35] <tommmy> matt: sucks for you.  I hit 600k/s, and it was done in 30-35 minutes.
[23:35] <laeg> RyanPrior: i didn't set it to don't use, i didn't set it to anything, should i?
[23:35] <krul> in Hardy, my fonts in gnome-terminal are really ugly, anyone?
[23:35] <maco> Zicks: they use normal gnome and kde themes
[23:35] <Ovation13579> Hi RyanPrior - I've tried all three kernels that I have but they've made no difference. I get a login screen as expected, enter a correct username and password and then just get the default background with a cursor in all three cases... Failsafe makes no difference.
[23:35] <matt444> <goat|work>  United States, Bell South DSL.
[23:35] <Laser87> gluer: step by step to Dapper and then to Hardy- or a fresh install
[23:35] <cygoku> emorrie ...  I have 2 hard drives, the first one 1 ext3 and the other is ntfs ... the ntfs one isn't recognise by Hard Heron, but GParted can see it ... what can I do to use my second hhd ????????
[23:36] <akorn> does anybody know why my time is showing in white font (everything else on the bar is showing in black text...)
[23:36] <Zicks> thats just crazy
[23:36] <maco> Zicks: the compiz team is considering making a new window decorator, but it hasnt been decided yet
[23:36] <goat|work> matt444: I hit 1000k/s this afternoon, and am still seeding
[23:36] <vladuz976> wanna connect my LCD TV via HDMI, I have no idea how to configure Xorg.conf to make that work. no idea about refresh rate and resolution, any idea how to handle that
[23:36] <gluer> laser87: thanks
[23:36] <InGunsWeTrust> has anybody managed to install zsnes on hardy heron 64 bit
[23:36] <DBautell> matt444, goat|work, it seems to be only the DVDs that are failing, I'm guessing that's the diff between your circumstances
[23:36] <p0lluX> hi, is there any official repo working for gutsy??
[23:36] <matt444> <goat|work>  wow, you're lucky.  although my max is around 600k.  i would kill for just 200.
[23:36] <goat|work> matt444: try changing your bittorrent port, and make sure your firewall allows outside connections
[23:36] <RyanPrior> Ovation13579: Does the cursor move? Can you restart X? Is there any hard drive activity? Is your /home full maybe?
[23:36] <Zicks> so there is no alternative ?
[23:36] <evilbug> how can i upgrade to hardy using the alternate disc?
[23:36] <matt444> <goat|work>  not a firewall/port problem.  i use torrents all the time and know what i'm doing.
[23:36] <RyanPrior> laeg: I think it should only use a partition if you tell it to do so.
[23:36] <Baughn> Is there a netboot image for Hardy? There doesn't seem to be one on the cd I downloaded, like the howto suggests
[23:36] <laeg> RyanPrior: i have 4 parts on the drive, linux swap, / and /home, and one i am just temp storing files - i did not go near that part in the install
[23:36] <p0lluX> sorry, i wanted to say--> hi, is there any official repo working for hardy??
[23:37] <matt444> <DBautell>  must be it.  i'm getting the DVD and speeds are terrible.
[23:37] <gnuskoo1> Ovation13579: what wm are you using? xfce once had that prob, related to swap mem if i recall, got swap?
[23:37] <maco> Zicks: compiz gets transparency on the metacity themes when you use gtk-window-decorator now, and transparency was all emerald had going for it
[23:37] <feierfox> is there something like a comunity-channel of ubuntu?
[23:37] <laeg> RyanPrior: ty
[23:37] <RyanPrior> laeg: Just read carefully and you should be good. It's difficult for me to say anything for sure because I don't have the installer in front of me.
[23:37] <tanath> InGunsWeTrust, WFM on 32 bit... don't 32 bit apps work on 64bit?
[23:37] <goat|work> matt444: ok, cool,  i know comcast is tricky sometimes, i've seen jumps from changing ports, until they find it again
[23:37] <maco> Zicks: ok fine, emerald's theme manager had a nice way of editing/creating themes too...
[23:37] <RyanPrior> laeg: If you want extra peace of mind, screenshot it and I'll take a look. :-)
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[23:37] <flavio__> tanath: theres no such thing as ca.archieve.ubuntu.com :/
[23:37] <g00se> are the repositories loaded down today?
[23:37] <icesword> nnnd, 8.04 is so coooool
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[23:37] <rectec794613> I need HELP!!!
[23:37] <DBautell> matt444 me too, both 386 and 64bit DVDs are creeping
[23:38] <RyanPrior> g00se: You bet they are. Release day!
[23:38] <icesword> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/804features/
[23:38] <Zicks> do i sudo apt-get install gtk-window-decorator ?
[23:38] <maco> Zicks: you *can* use emerald if you like...ive done so...but its a piece of crap.  compizquinn told me its a pile of spaghetti code
[23:38] <Heartsbane> Wow!
[23:38] <maco> Zicks: it should be there
[23:38] <g00se> haha, yep, thats what i thought.   =)
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[23:38] <Sam827> Whenever I attempt to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy using the Update Manager it sits there for a while, then crashes. Any help?
[23:38] <Ovation13579> So far I've tried removing all the .gnome* directorys for my user, and have monitored /var/log/messages - All I see is gnome-keyring-daemon dying with segfault. The mouse moves and CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE restarts to the loging screen. There's no hard disk activity and there's a few hundred megs free in /home
[23:38] <tanath> flavio, ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[23:38] <maco> Zicks: its what automatically does window deocrations when you use compiz
[23:38] <goat|work> feierfox: #ubuntu-offtopic is one place...
[23:38] <tanath> flavio, oops, wrong flavio
[23:38] <rattts> i once had a folder that was called public_html  and it was able to be treated as an apache htdocs folder(basically, u could go to it through the internet to view web pages saved in it)   now i dont think its connected to internet....how do i check to see if it is?
[23:38] <arbrandes> 2 packages to go...
[23:38] <g00se> is there any difference between todays release and yesterdays release candidate?
[23:38] <Hydrogen> heh, and when compizquinn says that you know it has to be bad.. considdering the code quinn wrote...
[23:38] <tanath> flavio__, it's "archive" ;)
[23:38] <jedimasterk> When I go to boot with the 8.04 cd and I click either Try Ubuntu without Changes or Install Ubuntu. I will get a (initramfs)_ prompt. This never happened with any version of Ubuntu I had in the past. Whay's wrong. Tried burning CD from 2 different mirrors.
[23:38] <InGunsWeTrust> no, if you sudo apt-get install zsnes it errors out. with feisty i used the dfreer repo that had a package called zsnes32 compiled for 64 bit
[23:38] <emorris> rectec794613: some more info?
[23:39] <rodietze> hey
[23:39] <akorn> what's the shortcut to load up tracker?
[23:39] <maco> g00se: rc was friday, and any packages that changed in the last week are it
[23:39] <cygoku> jesus christ ... no one knows mounting ?
[23:39] <rectec794613> well when i try to play a song in VLC Media Player or Totem, it stops responding
[23:39] <rectec794613> ANY HELP?
[23:39] <cygoku> jesus christ again
[23:39] <Zicks> where do i get theme gnome-look.org ?
[23:39] <maco> !patience rectec794613
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[23:39] <tanath> g00se, there were some
[23:39] <maco> Zicks: yep
[23:39] <rattts> anyone know the key combination that i can press so my home directory will list all the hidden folders?????
[23:39] <flavio__> doh..
[23:39] <rectec794613> I've been wiating 45 mins
[23:39] <maco> Zicks: install them in your normal gnome theme thingy and compiz automatically adds transparency
[23:39] <flavio__> the ca one is also of no use
[23:39] <Zicks> maco: thanks for your help
[23:39] <InGunsWeTrust> rattts: Ctr + H
[23:39] <goat|work> rattts: ctrl+h  in the gui
[23:39] <maco> rattts: ctrl H
[23:39] <ubuntuROX> gOOse If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[23:40] <rattts> thanks
[23:40] <g00se> okay cool..  hope i can get hellanzb working smoothly this time around...
[23:40] <Ovation13579> gnuskoo1: I'm using the default WM (presumably GNOME??) it's the same I've used since first installing feisty
[23:40] <maco> rattts: or View -> hidden files (it says ctrl+h right next to it)
[23:40] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Chill out. Today is going to be a crazy day, there are tons of newbies to help, and we've only got so much expertise in the room.
[23:40] <maco> Ovation13579: gnome != wm
[23:40] <Zicks> maco where can i find the hardy heron release notes ?
[23:40] <Sam827>  Whenever I attempt to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy using the Update Manager it sits there for a while, then crashes. Any help?
[23:40] <rattts> hey ingunswetrust.....lets say i navigate to a hidden folder and all of a sudden i want to open a file browser, basically a visual of all the files. how do i do it?
[23:40] <RyanPrior> cygoku: Answers aren't always available - I suggest coming back later and asking, and/or searching on the Ubuntu Forums.
[23:40] <cygoku> I guess.
[23:40] <Ovation13579> I have got swap mem.. I'm running on an 8GB flash drive, so shouldn't have it, but tools like Bibble and GIMP just die without swap!!
[23:40] <tanath> cygoku, no jebus here... or anywhere for that matter. what's the prob?
[23:40] <dbristow> I still can't get a copy of the wubi.exe that matches the MD5SUM line
[23:40] <maco> Zicks: good question. i dont know. ...ive been using it so long ive had no reason to look. i can link you to the new features page...
[23:41] <MEtaLpREs> ok im really stumped here,  i dont have a sessions menu on my login screen, theres only the ubuntu logo and the username box, no other buttons or menus,  how can i fix that?
[23:41] <goat|work> cygoku: can you repeat your question?
[23:41] <Zicks> maco yes please
[23:41] <smallfoot-> why doesn
[23:41] <Baughn> Sam827: Try doing it with apt-get instead?
[23:41] <smallfoot-> why doesn't ubuntu support .7z out-of-the-box?
[23:41] <Sam827> Baughn: how?
[23:41] <stoked> !lvm
[23:41] <jedimasterk> When I go to boot with the 8.04 cd and I click either Try Ubuntu without Changes or Install Ubuntu. I will get a (initramfs)_ prompt. This never happened with any version of Ubuntu I had in the past. Whay's wrong. Tried burning CD from 2 different mirrors.
[23:41] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[23:41] <Ovation13579> Okay maco - I use what ever wm is default on Ubuntu - I've never changed it...
[23:41] <RyanPrior> smallfoot-: Because .7z isn't widely used. However. it's about three cllicks to install support!
[23:41] <maco> rattts: nautilus --browser .
[23:41] <Baughn> Sam827: Hm. You'd have to change the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list appropriately, then apt-get dist-upgrade..
[23:42] <InGunsWeTrust> rattts: if you do gnome-open /path/you/want/to/open it will open the folder. If you want to open it with root permissions you can do gksu gnome-open /path/for/thing
[23:42] <tanath> smallfoot-, prolly not popular enough (for some reason)
[23:42] <ethana2> LZMA FTW ;)
[23:42] <Baughn> Sam827: And hope nothing breaks, and that I'm not skipping anything necessary for ubuntu but not debian
[23:42] <Zicks> maco : i found them .. thanks
[23:42] <maco> Ovation13579: the default in gutsy and hardy is compiz.  before that, metacity
[23:42] <Baughn> Sam827: Oh, and apt-get update before the upgrade. ;)
[23:42] <maco> InGunsWeTrust: what is gnome-open?
[23:42] <Simonft> i just upgraded ubuntu, and now when i log in, all i get is a orange screen
[23:42] <Simonft> exept in secure gnome
[23:42] <Sam827> Baughn: Actually it says could not find release notes when it crashes now
[23:42] <cygoku> goat|work & tanath ... see pm plz
[23:42] <akorn> Is there a macro to load up Tracker??
[23:43] <pale-yafa> hi, I just upgraded to 8.4, got some really bad problems, first the numpad is not working at all
[23:43] <InGunsWeTrust> maco: gnome-open just tells gnome to do the default open action for something. if you do it on a folder that action is nautalis
[23:43] <goat|work> cygoku: no pm yet
[23:43] <Baughn> Sam827: apt-get is the underlying tool it's using. It should be a lot more robust.
[23:43] <Sam827> i no
[23:43] <tommmy> There.  I Just seeded the torrent and capped it at 50k/s.  Hope to help some of you.
[23:43] <llin-ubuntu> Hey ifanyones having trouble connecting to the ubuntu servers, I found out you can ping all the servers and select the fastest one.  System/Administration/Software Sources Click "Download from" select "Other" on the window that comes up click "Select best server"
[23:43] <rodietze> how can I set the WEP passphrase when trying to connect to a wireless network?
[23:43] <tanath> cygoku, no pm. i think you have to be registered to send them
[23:43] <Lupion> reactor I just tried the envyng thing (I was Dani previously) but it didn't work. Thanks anyway!
[23:43] <jedimasterk> When I go to boot with the 8.04 cd and I click either Try Ubuntu without Changes or Install Ubuntu. I will get a (initramfs)_ prompt. This never happened with any version of Ubuntu I had in the past. What's wrong. Tried burning CD from 2 different mirrors.
[23:43] <Sam827> but i dont want to deal with it
[23:43] <cygoku> thats crazy lol
[23:43] <maco> pale-yafa: turn on numlock?
[23:43] <Sam827> the updating sources and such
[23:43] <cygoku> I have 2 hard drives, the first one 1 ext3 and the other is ntfs ... the ntfs one isn't recognise by Hard Heron, but GParted can see it ... what can I do to use my second hhd ????????
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[23:44] <pale-yafa> maco: good one:d it is turned on but its not working
[23:44] <maco> rodietze: youll be prompted for it and then it can save it
[23:44] <px> I've upgraded to Hardy, and my laptop is more unstable.  It locks up, and X will just get stuck, and even the alt-sysrq doesnt work.
[23:44] <tanath> cygoku, spam & stuff
[23:44] <akorn> Anybody know why my date/time is showing in white font when the rest of my panel is all black font??
[23:44] <ubuntuROX> Wow,, what kinda sucks is people are getting bad downloads, because of network issues and they are going to be complaining about the release.
[23:44] <goat|work> cygoku: are you mounting with the force flag?
[23:44] <maco> pale-yafa: system -> preferences -> keyboard?
[23:44] <flavio__> tanath: canada sucked. although germany is pretty far away ,seems to be better.
[23:44] <Ovation13579> So does anyone have any ideas?? I have the same problem with a completely 'vanilla' account that I created, so It's not user preference related. Right now I'm stuffed as I can't figure out what's failing or what to do about it...
[23:44] <tanath> cygoku, install ntfs3g
[23:44] <crimsun> ubuntuROX: they should be checking the *sums first
[23:44] <cygoku> i dont know anything about mounting ... i just changed from Windows ... used Gutsy on my laptop for the past  months
[23:44] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntuROX: well, anyone with a rock in their head should know the issues right now are due to server overload
[23:44] <RyanPrior> Ovation13579: Does it happen with a LiveCD?
[23:44] <Veinor> so inthe COMPLETELY UNBIASED opinion of everybody here, is upgrading to heron worth it?
[23:44] <tanath> flavio__, prolly lots using the canadian one too ;p
[23:44] <emb> is it possible to "upgrade" from the development branch to the stable branch. I moved to the development branch to resolve some issues, but now I would like to move back
[23:44] <cmw72> any reason why i can't ping internal ip addresses on a fresh HH install ... but external addresses (i.e. google.com) work just fine?
[23:45] <tanath> flavio__, it's the closest to the US
[23:45] <goat|work> cygoku: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[23:45] <ubuntuROX> yep, but alot of them who are trying for the first time dont know how to do that.
[23:45] <InGunsWeTrust> ubuntuROX: its pretty hard to deal with millions of people all dling the same thing on the same day
[23:45] <Veinor> or are there too many problems?
[23:45] <Baughn> emb: Possible, but incredibly dangerous if you don't know what you're doing
[23:45] <flavio__> tanath: yeah, must be why its so clogged up
[23:45] <dbristow> I've been able to get all the other files no problem, either via jigdo or torrent or direct.  But the md5sums on the wubi.exe never match.
[23:45] <maco> crimsun: hello genie of the lamp
[23:45] <rectec794613> ANY HELP?
[23:45] <x1250> Veinor: yes, but it really depends on YOUR expectations
[23:45] <ubuntuROX> and they will think poorly about a very robust distro
[23:45] <maco> crimsun: er..of the speaker
[23:45] <Baughn> emb: A reinstall is a far better idea. Just keep /home unchanged.
[23:45] <Veinor> x1250: what do you mean?
[23:45] <cygoku> this ?
[23:45] <Ovation13579> Don't know about the LiveCD.... I upgraded using the upgrade manager (which was perfect from Feisty to Gutsy before)... I don't have the LiveCD and would have to download it...
[23:45] <cygoku> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[23:45] <cygoku> #
[23:45] <cygoku> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[23:45] <cygoku> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[23:45] <cygoku> # /dev/sda1
[23:45] <FloodBot2> cygoku: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <rectec794613> OMG :(
[23:45] <RyanPrior> ubuntuROX: BitTorrent is fast.
[23:45] <px> I've upgraded to Hardy, and my Dell inspriron 6000 laptop is more unstable.  It locks up randomly, and X will just get stuck, and even the alt-sysrq doesnt work.
[23:45] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntuROX: well, if they're that dense, they are probably better off..
[23:45] <goat|work> cygoku: use pastebin
[23:45] <maco> emb: if you have all your updates from unstable, youre on stable
[23:46] <flavio__> tanath: i have NO instances of just "archive.ubuntu.com" in my sources.list, and somehow my apt-get update is trying to connect to it?
[23:46] <x1250> Veinor: its worthy, imo
[23:46] <pale-yafa> maco: what am I supposed to see there
[23:46] <tanath> cygoku, install the ntfs-3g package, and nautilus should be able to see your drive
[23:46] <goat|work> cygoku: but yes that
[23:46] <maco> pale-yafa: check your keyboard layout settings
[23:46] <cordofsips> flavio__ you have that problem too?
[23:46] <tanath> flavio, did you do an 'apt-get update' first?
[23:46] <goat|work> tanath: hardy has ntfs3g by default, i thought
[23:46] <Baughn> emb: If you can just /remove/ the packages before reinstalling the stable versions, that would be fine
[23:46] <maco> pale-yafa: make sure the part for your numpad shows up
[23:46] <Veinor> x1250: so if I have a gutsy install that works pretty well (there's one or two bugs but they're not horrible), what do I gain from upgrading?
[23:46] <cordofsips> my apt-get gets update hangs on that
[23:46] <tanath> flavio__, woops, misread
[23:46] <flavio__> tanath: well thats what im doing
[23:46] <xim> linux is so validating to use, if you can do it.  it makes me feel like an elitist, because theres NOO way a regular person could handle it
[23:46] <cygoku> http://pastebin.com/m711c9d82
[23:46] <RyanPrior> px: Must be a kernel panic. Perhaps use the old kernel for awhile?
[23:46] <Saladin> Hey guys, I am wanting to revert back to Firefox 2.0.014 after doing the Hardy Heron upgrade. Any help, as I am unable to do so
[23:46] <tanath> flavio__, XD
[23:46] <flavio__> cordofsips: sounds like it
[23:46] <cygoku> Here is my pastebin : http://pastebin.com/m711c9d82
[23:47] <maco> xim: BS
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[23:47] <maco> xim: my mom uses ubuntu
[23:47] <michael__> i have RC1 but don't know how to upgrade to the final release could someone tell me the command?
[23:47] <Ziroday> Saladin: install the firefox-2 package
[23:47] <Baughn> emb: Obviously that won't work on core system packages, which is also /why/ getting this wrong is dangerous - you can leave the system unusable rather easily if they're downgraded in the wrong order
[23:47] <px> RyanPrior: would I have to set something in /etc/apt/preferences for that?
[23:47] <ubuntuROX> michael If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[23:47] <Saladin> Ziroday, how do I do that?
[23:47] <maco> xim: as do my brother and sister. im the only person in the family who knows anything about computers.
[23:47] <goat|work> cygoku: can you cat /proc/partitions     and pastebin that as well?
[23:47] <x1250> Veinor: I think nobody will tell you about any specific features. Install it in virtualbox and see if you like it or not...
[23:47] <Ziroday> Saladin: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[23:47] <maco> michael__: did you do your normal updates for the last week? if so, youre on final
[23:47] <icesword> www.ubuntu.com  has a good upgrade guide
[23:47] <xim> but i bet you have to take care of them constantly
[23:47] <tanath> Saladin, there's a package for firefox 2. check synaptic
[23:47] <ubuntuROX> michael If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[23:47] <Saladin> Thank you, Ziroday
[23:47] <RyanPrior> px: Nope, to try an older kernel select it from the boot menu, and if you want to boot into that older kernel by default you'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:48] <blbrown> I am getting can't update errors, should I wait or is something else going on.  Is anyone else able to easily upgrade?
[23:48] <emb> OK, I think I'll go the backup home directory and then do a reinstall
[23:48] <ubuntuROX> you should wait
[23:48] <tanath> flavio__, you ought to be using the upgrade manager anyway
[23:48] <IndyGunFreak> blbrown: the servers are gettign bogged down... either wait a few days, or download a torrent
[23:48] <dassouki> hey all the distrubtion upgrade is 1/3 of the way in fetching the files, i need to leave work, can i cancel it safely?
[23:48] <Baughn> emb: A nice reason to keep it on a separate partition. ;)
[23:48] <warriorforgod> ls
[23:48] <px> RyanPrior: well the 2.6.22 was kind of unstable for me also
[23:48] <basso> I love you all!
[23:48] <RyanPrior> blbrown: That's very common today. The repositories are very busby from millions of downloads. BitTorrent is the fastest way to upgrade - download the Alternate CD via BT, burn it, stick it in, and upgrade.
[23:48] <crimsun> maco: ja?
[23:48] <px> RyanPrior: that's the only other kernel i have installed
[23:48] <ubuntuROX> the downloads are slow at best, and may fail or corrupt the file easily.
[23:48] <flavio__> tanath: i am, just trying to update the sources.list through apt-get
[23:48] <Veinor> x1250: I see. The other question I have is, is reformatting my hard drive to have /home on a separate partition when I do decide to upgrade worth it?
[23:48] <Baughn> dassouki: Yes
[23:48] <Simonft> when i log in, it only show a black screen. I logged in in secure Gnome, and ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[23:48] <maco> crimsun: playing around because you just appeared
[23:49] <michael__> maco: yes i did, thanks!
[23:49] <Simonft> will that fix it?
[23:49] <xim> i thought about putting my dad on it, but i just dont wanna be doing maintanence for him constantly
[23:49] <tanath> flavio__, it will handle that
[23:49] <goat|work> cygoku: also one more thing, type the following and give me the output:  sudo aptitude search ntfs-3g
[23:49] <Ziroday> dassouki: if it is still only downloading files then yes
[23:49] <RyanPrior> px: That sucks. Sounds like you'd need to compile your own kernel, which is not fun.
[23:49] <michael__> maco: i upgraded to RC1 a couple days ago.
[23:49] <cygoku> There is nothing in my proc/partitions
[23:49] <px> RyanPrior: compiling aint no thing, i'm a gentoo user
[23:49] <xim> this channel is more for questions than chat huh?
[23:49] <RyanPrior> px: I wish there was an easier way to install old kernels, it would make my life a lot easier. :-)
[23:49] <ubuntuROX> michael If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[23:49] <goat|work> cygoku: cat /proc/partitions
[23:49] <goat|work> sorry
[23:49] <Veinor> x1250: and if so, how big should I make /home relative to my entire hard drive?
[23:49] <emb> Baughn: thanks for the help
[23:49] <Ziroday> xim: correct, #ubuntu-offtopic is chat
[23:50] <ubuntuROX> michael__ did you see that?
[23:50] <twinkie_addict> gentoo makes kernel building nic e:)
[23:50] <maco> michael__: and if you installed all updates that came through in the last few days, youre done
[23:50] <cygoku> Some repos are down aswell,...
[23:50] <jrabbit> 8.4 crashes on livecd boot for me
[23:50] <michael__> ubuntuROX: see what?
[23:50] <jrabbit> soem bug I can't recall
[23:50] <ubuntuROX> just run sudo grub-update
[23:50] <jrabbit> It repeats
[23:50] <ubuntuROX> michael If you have been running the Beta or RC version, and it shows development branch, and no updates available you are likely running stable but will want to run sudo grub-update to fix that.
[23:50] <Jimdb> I downloaded 8.04 via bittorrent and it was pretty fast, but after the download COMCAST started interfering with me seeding it.  They kept breaking the connection. So, when i got it to start later I increased my upload bandwidth just to eat more of their bandwidth up.
[23:50] <tanath> jrabbit, corrupt iso? scratched disc?
[23:50] <maco> Veinor: i make / be 10GB and /home for the rest
[23:50] <x1250> Veinor: Uhm, I really think upgrading is not worth a reformat. Just upgrade using aptitude. If you need to reinstall and format your hard drive, then having /home in its own partition will be very useful...
[23:50] <jrabbit> tanath: I torrented it
[23:50] <maco> Veinor: ive never filled a 10GB / ...have filled 7GB though
[23:50] <jrabbit> lemme check disc
[23:51] <Saladin> And guys, sorry to be a pain, but how do I remove Firefox 3, or is that done automatically when I install 2?
[23:51] <ubuntuROX> dont remove it
[23:51] <cygoku> My cat http://pastebin.com/m3b4d72cf
[23:51] <matt____> after trying 8.04, the livecd, it boots to an error message cli. any ideas why? (typing this from a 7.10 install??????????????????)
[23:51] <ubuntuROX> leave it there, just start 2 instead
[23:51] <RyanPrior> Saladin: I think firefox 2 is removed when you upgrade to hardy.
[23:51] <jrabbit> tanath: hahaha
[23:51] <px> RyanPrior: could I add one of the older ubuntu sources to sources.list and get an old kernel like that?
[23:51] <michael__> ubuntuROX: you mean update-grub? grub-update says command not found
[23:51] <RyanPrior> Saladin: Have you given up all hope of being able to use FF 3?
[23:51] <Veinor> x1250: I've herad from other people that it's better to just format and reinstall than to upgrade over a live distro.
[23:51] <ubuntuROX> yes
[23:51] <jrabbit> there was a HUGE mark on it tanath jsut buffed it out
[23:51] <ubuntuROX> sorry
[23:51] <Jimdb> what's the error message exactly matt?  can't tell you unless we know what it is.
[23:51] <blbrown> RyanPrior, you have a bittorrent link or what should I google for.  Also, I am assuming that the CD does an upgrade?
[23:51] <tanath> jrabbit, heh
[23:51] <maco> michael__: whichever one exists, yeh
[23:51] <goat|work> cygoku: do you know what drive your windows disk is located on?
[23:51] <Pelo> as anyone using metacity compositing noticed that during the splash part of the install  the background colour changes to bleu-grey when  compositing comes on  ?
[23:51] <laeg> RyanPrior: i'm just not confident continuing with the warning WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[23:51] <laeg> well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted. there's nothing in the install docs online about it either
[23:51] <RyanPrior> px: You could, but I wouldn't suggest it since each Ubuntu build uses a different tool chain.
[23:51] <Fishscene> !bittorrent
[23:51] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[23:51] <Saladin> Yes, RyanPrior - I have use thirty extensions, only about four are compatible.
[23:51] <xim> ziroday k thx
[23:51] <jrabbit> tanath: k rebooting
[23:52] <michael__> ubuntuROX: i actually did the update manually because i didnt know the command at the time! ahah, thanks
[23:52] <ubuntuROX> I had that problem this morning
[23:52] <DBautell> blbrown, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[23:52] <Pelo> Has anyone using metacity compositing noticed that during the splash part of the install  the background colour changes to bleu-grey when  compositing comes on  ?
[23:52] <px> RyanPrior: good to know thx, ill just try building my own from sources
[23:52] <DBautell> !torrents
[23:52] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[23:52] <maco> Veinor: they both work ok, but it's easier to figure out whats going on if something's wrong from a clean system
[23:52] <x1250> Veinor: thats not true... although, upgrading may have some caveats. But thats the way it works, upgrading and not reformatting.
[23:52] <Saladin> And ubuntuROX, why should I not remove it?
[23:52] <cygoku> goat|work ... I had Hardy installed on my windows hdd
[23:52] <Fishscene> DBautell, thanks! :P I called the wrong command. lol
[23:52] <michael__> ubuntuROX: yeah it makes everything really slow if you dont do it.
[23:52] <JPSman> I think I love you so what am i so afraid of  -  i'm afraid i'm not sure of the love there is no cure for  - think I love you isn't that what life is made of
[23:52] <x1250> Veinor: most of the time, upgrading goes well
[23:52] <ben-g> wireless is enabled in restricted drivers. How do i install the driver for an atheros wireless card?
[23:52] <RyanPrior> laeg: The thing is, the warning is true and it means exactly what it says.
[23:52] <ubuntuROX> well because if you remove it you will have to re-install it in a couple of weeks or months when they release it
[23:52] <JPSman> i think....i think i'm falling in love with linux guys
[23:53] <Veinor> yeah, true. I think I'll just get the alternate CD, play around with it for a while, and see if ti works.
[23:53] <DBautell> Fishscene, that was my first usage of auto replace, purty proud of myself
[23:53]  * Pelo points out that ppl whit an uptodate beta or RC do not need to upgrade , it's the samething 
[23:53] <ubuntuROX> and actually,, other than the extentions, its pretty good
[23:53] <RyanPrior> laeg: It will give you that warning no matter what you do, because it needs to format at least a few parititions to install.
[23:53] <Jimdb> old partridge family tune
[23:53] <px> RyanPrior: does the info bot have a good howto link for compiling the kernel from sources?
[23:53] <Fishscene> DBAutell, awesome :P
[23:53] <laeg> RyanPrior: it could mean *all data, which includes my storage partition
[23:53] <Ovation13579> Can anyone tell me what log files I should be looking at to understand why I only get a blank screen + mouse after login? The only login which works is an xterm login.
[23:53] <goat|work> cygoku: that cannot be...  if you have hardy installed on sda1, and swap is on sda5, the hard drive is telling the system that those are the only two partitions on that drive
[23:53] <RyanPrior> laeg: The warning is to make you think carefully about which parititions you chose to format.
[23:53] <ubuntuROX> I like it better now after using it for a week or so.
[23:53] <goat|work> cygoku: so there is a problem
[23:53] <Saladin> Well, that's cool. I won't be installing when it is first released anyway - I always wait for all my extensions to become compatible.
[23:53] <Pelo> Ovation13579, reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:53] <RyanPrior> px: I dunno. /msg ubotu with some keywords and see what he says.
[23:53] <x1250> Ovation13579: xorg log files
[23:53] <PePa> Can anyone give me some pointers on upgrading to Hardy?
[23:53] <px> RyanPrior: thx, wasn't sure how to address the bot properly
[23:54] <tanath> JPSman, it's great stuff, but it's not without it's issues :)
[23:54] <laeg> RyanPrior: ok, lets see what happens
[23:54] <nous> hi, big problem : I just uprgaded to hardy and my graphic card is not recognised anymore (an Intel 945)
[23:54] <twinkie_addict> i love linux have for years , i hate however how i have to run windows for my games ::(
[23:54] <ubuntuROX> the extentions will most likely work within days of the release
[23:54] <JPSman> PePa: Download ISO, burn it
[23:54] <Pelo> PePa, what version are you upgrading from ?
[23:54] <RyanPrior> PePa: I suggest downloading it via BitTorrent, since the direct downloads and repos are very slow.
[23:54] <|stefan|> just upgraded to hardy and now it thinks i want posix instead of utf-8 in console.
[23:54] <PePa> Don't have enough space, and thought of mounting an external partition onto /var somewhere
[23:54] <maco> Pelo: that doesnt do anything for graphics, and it didnt in gutsy either.
[23:54] <matt____> after trying 8.04, the livecd, it boots to an error message cli. any ideas why? (typing this from a 7.10 install??????????????????)
[23:54] <ubuntuROX> thats how it was when 2.0 was released anyhow.
[23:54] <matt____> after trying 8.04, the livecd, it boots to an error message cli. any ideas why? (typing this from a 7.10 install??????????????????)
[23:54] <tanath> Ovation13579, ~/.xsession-errors
[23:54] <flavio__> tanath: thanks for the tip. i used the "find best server" thing and its pretty decent.
[23:54] <michael__> take care everyone!
[23:54] <Pelo> Ovation13579, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[23:54] <ubuntuROX> later michael
[23:54] <tanath> flavio__, :)
[23:54] <PePa> but don't know where in /var space is needed
[23:54] <Jimdb> matt____:::::what are you saying?  you end up at a prompt?
[23:54] <PePa> fromn Gutsy
[23:55] <|stefan|> how do i change locales ?
[23:55] <tanath> flavio__, erm, where exactly did you see that, 'cause i didn't see that when i did mine
[23:55] <|stefan|> from console
[23:55] <JPSman> tanath: tell me about it.  I just had major problems installing my internet driver.
[23:55] <matt____> Jimdb: um...something "box" i believe it is called...
[23:55] <PePa> I'd like to use update-manager -d
[23:55] <Pelo> PePa, you shouldn'T need to make hdd space ifyou uppgrade from the alt-cd
[23:55] <maco> Jimdb: busybox
[23:55] <oddalot> anyone here running nvidia drivers successfully? i'm not getting any resolution over 680x480 on my crt??
[23:55] <maco> matt____: that right ^
[23:55] <dragao-azul> Hi, i have a problem trying to run the ubuntu live cd, can i ask for help here?
[23:55] <flavio__> tanath: on "software sources" program
[23:55] <CaptainMorgan> anyone have a Thinkpad T61 with the new release on it? Any problems reported? I'm about to install it and would like a heads-up if you got one
[23:55] <Saladin> Also, I have noticed that my Emerald Themes are no longer working on Hardy. Any idea why, or if there is a fix for it?
[23:55] <maco> !ask | dragao-azul
[23:55] <ubotu> dragao-azul: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[23:55] <ubuntuROX> I am running nvidia drivers
[23:55] <rcarcamo> hi ... im having problems with my sound card ( sigmatel STAC 9250 input ) i have google it for a couple of days ... and nnothing usefull comes on ... have any body have the same problem or fix it
[23:55] <flavio__> tanath: system ->> adminstration --> software sources
[23:55] <JPSman> PePa: use the alt-cd install, it allows you to update from a CD
[23:55] <matt____> maco: say what?
[23:55] <nous> hi, big problem : I just uprgaded to hardy and my graphic card is not recognised anymore (an Intel 945). What can I do ?
[23:55] <tanath> flavio__, ah :D
[23:55] <maco> Saladin: emerald is dead
[23:56] <maco> matt____: busybox?
[23:56] <Saladin> :(
[23:56] <cygoku> goat|work ... Should I re-installed ... and have the first HDD formated with gparted in livecd mode ?
[23:56] <Jimdb> matt___try a different CD reader...try adding ide=nodma on command line when you boot into the installer.
[23:56] <Saladin> What can I do about my cool themes then?
[23:56] <JPSman> Anyone else having problems with rt2500 drivers?
[23:56] <maco> Saladin: compiz can composite normal gnome themes now
[23:56] <JPSman> I was able to fix mine
[23:56] <maco> Saladin: they have transparency
[23:56] <PePa> JPSMan, don't have external CDRom (it's an Eeepc)
[23:56] <RyanPrior> Saladin: Emerald themes should still work with Compiz Fusion, I think.
[23:56] <ubuntuROX> right now its the restricted drivers version, but I had installed the driver manually from nvidia back in early beta so IM not a good example.
[23:56] <dragao-azul> I hava an ATI card (HD2900Pro), and ehen i run the live cd, after it loads, i just get a white screen, it just stops there. How can i solve this?
[23:56] <matt____> maco: busybox, that is correct. any clue what is causing it?
[23:56] <Saladin> Ah, okay.
[23:56] <maco> RyanPrior: dont recommend it
[23:56] <maco> RyanPrior: emerald crashes constantly on compiz
[23:56] <dragao-azul> (ehen= when)
[23:57] <tanath> flavio__, someone should add that to the topic :P
[23:57] <maco> RyanPrior: if you use nvidia + emerald, everything slows down like its 1999
[23:57] <barslow> hello, I installed a beta of 8.04 about a month ago and it completely ruined my system
[23:57] <PePa> update-manager wants enough space, but where??
[23:57] <barslow> will the final version install with no issues?
[23:57] <falcon4ever> hmm
[23:57] <Ovation13579> Pelo: Is there any way I can filter the channel a bit coz it's all scrolling so fast I can't keep up...
[23:57] <IndyGunFreak> barslow: hopefully
[23:57] <RyanPrior> Saladin: Sounds like Beryl and Emerald are pretty much borked right now
[23:57] <maco> PePa: if you run "sudo apt-get clean" itll empty out your old debs so the update manager has room
[23:57] <oddalot> ubuntuROX: are you using an LCD?
[23:57] <ubuntuROX> well, I had no issues with the beta barslow about a month ago myself.
[23:57] <maco> RyanPrior: beryl's dead too
[23:57] <matt____> maco: well?
[23:57] <falcon4ever> http://www.multigesture.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/screenshot.png <- what would cause this pink glow around the windows? im using an nvidia 8600m gt and i've enabled the nvidia new restricted drivers
[23:57] <ubuntuROX> yes, 1440 x 900
[23:58] <RyanPrior> barslow: Most people are upgrading with no problem, but if you have issues, come in here and we'll try to help.
[23:58] <x1250> barslow: we don't know, since you didn't say anything very descriptive
[23:58] <PePa> maco, done that, still not enough
[23:58] <maco> matt____: no i was just pointing it out to Jimdb
[23:58] <matt____> Jimdb: yes, busybox pops up
[23:58] <maco> PePa: how small is your / ?
[23:58] <PePa> (very small partition...)
[23:58] <matt____> maco: oh, ok, thanks :)
[23:58] <tanath> for everyone with trouble downloading & upgrading, go to System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from other... > Select best server
[23:58] <glaxo> I am unable to get my wired network working - tried everything I can think of - can someone help?
[23:58] <Jimdb> matt___try a different CD reader...try adding ide=nodma on command line when you boot into the installer.
[23:58] <PePa> 3.7G
[23:58] <tvakah> anyone know much about the lvm encryption option using the alternate installer?
[23:58] <cygoku> Repos are down ?? (using HH RC)
[23:58] <oddalot> ubuntuROX can you post your xorg.conf somewhere that i can copy it?
[23:58] <barslow> Ryanprior: last time everything went bad and I had to reinstall my entire system, XORG issues
[23:58] <maco> PePa: O_O oh
[23:58] <cygoku> Some of them...
[23:58] <ubuntuROX> sure
[23:58] <ubuntuROX> want me to send it to you?
[23:58] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, are you using a router with a DHCP server?
[23:58] <maco> PePa: upgrade from a CD?
[23:58] <cygoku> goat|work ... Should I re-installed ... and have the first HDD formated with gparted in livecd mode ?
[23:58] <oddalot> yes
[23:59] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, i am using a router yes - tried it with static and with DHCP
[23:59] <RyanPrior> barslow: Hardy contains a massive Xorg update, so I suggest trying the LiveCD before taking the plunge.
[23:59] <ubuntuROX> I will send you the automatic resolutions one.
[23:59] <PePa> no CDRom drive
[23:59] <dragao-azul>  I have an ATI card (HD2900Pro), and when i run the live cd, after it loads, i just get a white screen, it just stops there. How can i solve this?
[23:59] <oddalot> yes, thank you very much
[23:59] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, the router is a wrt54gs running latest tomato firmware
[23:59] <x1250> barslow: want went wrong with xorg?
[23:59] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, are you able to get a DHCP IP from the router?
[23:59] <maco> PePa: how about from a flash drive?
[23:59] <laeg> what's the new firewall with 8.04 like guys?
[23:59] <maco> PePa: do you have another computer?
[23:59] <goat|work> cygoku: i think that windows is on sdb or sdc...  which is ok
[23:59] <laeg> firestarter is buggy
[23:59] <barslow> x1250: I never was able to find out
[23:59] <dunkyp> hey wondering if anyone could help me
[23:59] <pale-yafa> firebug does not work after upgrading to 8.4, how come this is not mentioned in the changes?
[23:59] <matt____> RyanPrior: so would this perhaps explain why the live cd doesn't work for me? perhaps xorg not working right?
[23:59] <tcpdumpgod> glaxo, what is the routers IP addy?
[23:59] <x1250> barslow: try the live-cd
[23:59] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, no - i get "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[23:59] <goat|work> cygoku: but we have to figure out which drive
[23:59] <asoare> hello, I have a question about building packages, it says here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistCompilerFlags that "dpkg-buildpackage sets these flags to the default values unless the flags are already defined in the environment", but that is not actually true, how can i use custon CFLAGS when building a package ?
[23:59] <maco> PePa: you can put the alternate ISO on a flash drive and mount the ISO on your EeePC as if it was a real CD then install from there
[23:59] <PePa> yes have another PC
[23:59] <glaxo> tcpdumpgod, 192.168.0.1