[02:53] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:53] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:53] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [02:53] !staff 21:52 < fiN> DCC SEND asdadasdadasdasdasdasd [02:53] bah [02:53] klined [02:53] lurvely [02:53] thankee [05:58] DGFT called the ops in #ubuntu () [05:58] BLJUTRJCGN called the ops in #ubuntu () [05:58] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [05:58] !staff [05:58] Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel or Gary, I could use a bit of your time :) [06:21] I think ubotu is getting packeted. [06:25] i think ubotu is getting deprecated. [06:26] I think ubotu is getting pwnt. [06:26] Netham45: what makes you say that? [06:26] jussio1, he's disconnected like 4 times right after reconnecting. [06:27] with the quit message, Excess Flood [06:27] hmm, /s/packeted/flooded. [06:27] might make more sense, heh. [06:29] @btlogin [06:29] doh [09:26] Saint`Diamond [i=fyre@dfspflxa-as-1-209-208-77-3.dyn.atlantic.net] has quit ["FUCK OFF"] [09:26] .... [09:26] (in #ubuntu) [13:24] PriceChild [13:24] i was never told how long the ban is set for in #ubuntu [13:24] Piero_Scarufii: remember why you were banned? [13:25] offtopic [13:25] i was warned 2x [13:25] and i was stupid enough to continue but i didnt mean to get banned [13:26] i just want to be unbanned so i can use ubuntu again [13:46] !test [13:46] Failed. [13:47] Piero_Scarufii: hey I'm back sorry. [13:48] !guidelines | Piero_Scarufii [13:48] Piero_Scarufii: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [13:49] Piero_Scarufii: please read it then tell me when done. [13:50] done! [13:51] That was very quick. [13:51] i want my privilege back please :( [13:51] * Hobbsee watches PriceChild hand out The Test. [13:56] Piero_Scarufii: Please don't call people noobs. Don't use the bot in #ubuntu if you don't know what you're doing, /msg ubotu instead. Use your common sense. #ubuntu is english speaking, a list of other languages channels can be provided if you ask politely. [14:18] PriceChild? [14:18] so how long is the ban for? [14:18] thats all i wanted to know [14:18] you've been unbanned, play nice [14:18] ty :) [14:18] i will part now then thanks again [14:29] sorry i have one more question PriceChild [14:29] He may not be around, is there anything I can help you with? [14:30] the residual ban that i only got via the ban #ubuntu namely the ban in #ubuntu-nl hasnt been lifted yet and now that the ban i have in #ubuntu is lifted the sole cause for the residual ban in #ubuntu-nl still remains so if a ubuntu op would be so kind to ask Seveas to lift the residual ban also please [14:34] Piero_Scarufii: leave him a message in a query [14:34] ok [14:37] Ok thanks i left him a query i hope he will be reasonable but i have my doubts well thanks again for the help [14:38] he has his doubts, how come :) [15:00] aschmack: Please fix your ident and realname to be more... family friendly before joining #ubuntu. [15:02] ah. [15:02] i was wondering why i couldnt join [16:12] sigh [16:15] DJones called the ops in #ubuntu (balls) [16:17] [17:16:19] --> KiSZnonack has joined this channel (i=tetois@gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat). [16:17] [17:17:09] --> poopshoote has joined this channel (i=beef@i.pay.for.my.dialup.with.food-stamps.org). [16:17] setting +r after these two and the other imbeciles [16:17] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [16:17] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [16:17] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [16:17] ... ok, should have set +R too. [16:20] its gone quiet all ov a sudden there :D [16:20] We should do that more often :p [16:20] how did it get made so quiet ? [16:20] +rR [16:21] that happens all the time though [16:21] ubotu, set mode +m on #ubuntu :P [16:21] in -unregged, [16:21] [17:21:06] --> odin_anala_la has joined this channel (i=tetois@gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat). [16:21] [17:21:10] <-- odin_anala_la has left this channel. [16:21] [17:21:12] --> odin_anala_la has joined this channel (i=tetois@gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat). [16:21] -ubotu- Access denied [16:21] i can't believe this person is genuine, with all the nicks he's changing [16:21] gay cat again ? [16:21] i'm banning [16:21] * odin_anala_la :There was no such nickname [16:21] * odin_anala_la :End of WHOWAS [16:26] .cat is a TLD o_O [16:26] well [16:26] he 1) joined right during an attack, just when another person (an attacker) with a very weird hostname joined [16:26] 2) changed three nicknames in two days [16:26] 3) is banned [16:27] 69.42.219.138 [16:27] = the IP [16:27] http://www.robtex.com/dns/gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.gay.cat.html [16:27] however, tis freedns [16:27] [17:25:10] --> anal_curtain has joined this channel (i=tetois@noo.bz). <- being abusive... [16:28] *!?=tetois@* [16:29] right [16:31] bleh [16:31] why do we need 4 bans for one person? [16:31] because they're evading? [16:31] staff then? [16:31] *!?=tetois@* will get him for now [16:31] no [16:31] he just joined with another ident [16:31] oh, never mind [16:31] yeah, sorry, didnt see that [16:31] before you removed the other bans [16:32] seveas isnt even in here? [16:32] or is my tab-complete broken? [16:32] no, he's not in here [16:33] ok we have no way to stop this idiot [16:34] banning you-know-what [16:34] which is a bit generic, but for now [16:34] Netham45: Can we help you? [16:35] where is he now ? [16:37] !coc > Seveas [16:38] (check bt) [16:53] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62734/ [16:55] [17:49:52] Piero_Scarufii: what the hell are you doing?? [16:55] oh, you as Floodbot4 [16:55] yes, before that, he said a lot of messages (that i couldn't see) causing the bot to reply "either say blah" a number of times [16:56] ah, fair enough [16:56] why are so many people wrong on the internet [16:57] (#freenode) [17:57:26] Piero_Scarufii: you won't be unbanned from #ubuntu even after fixing your router, because your attitude in this situation has been unacceptable. please type /msg ubotu etiquette, make sure you understand the whole of it, and come back tomorrow in #ubuntu-ops. [16:57] fair enough [16:58] [17:58:07] LjL unban me at once [16:59] i'm just reading in #freenode [16:59] * Seeker` facedesks [16:59] dfeuer: ah, it's that you're on a java client [16:59] Oh, is that not cool? [17:00] I would think identifying to nickserv would be enough :-/ [17:00] dfeuer, one sec [17:01] * Bans matching dfeuer!n=DavidF2@wikimedia/Dfeuer (Java User) [17:01] * Java?User [17:01] it's the real name that's doing it, lemme add an exception [17:01] [18:00:46] his methods to get people to fix exploited routers is to rude for words [17:01] [18:00:55] unban me at once [17:01] [18:00:55] [Notify] livingdaylight is online (ljlhead). [17:01] [18:01:00] LjL [17:01] don't unban [17:02] dfeuer, can you try joining #ubuntu now ? [17:02] Thanks, Mez. [17:02] That worked. [17:02] Whats it have against my real name? [17:03] dfeuer, yeah, I added an exception for your hostmask, as you seem an actual person - just dont make me regret it [17:03] dfeuer, it's showing your "real name" (GECOS field to be technical) as "Java User" [17:03] which we've had some issues with [17:03] I shan't. If you want verification I'm real, just see how long I've been registered ;-) [17:04] i wrote a bot two years ago too [17:04] dfeuer, the fact you have a wikimedia cloak ;) [17:04] was actually the reason why I had no doubts :D [17:04] enjoy dfeuer, sorry for the hassle. [17:04] No problem. [17:04] Thanks. [17:07] LjL banned me after purposely exploiting my router in #ubuntu-read-topic i saved the logs i didnt know what the heck was going on and confused and now i am banned from #ubuntu again while i was exploited [17:07] and i am not tech savvy so i get banned for not being knowledgeable [17:07] Piero_Scarufii, please calm down one moment. [17:08] just sit back, and listen to what I have to say - ok ? [17:08] Piero_Scarufii: you won't be unbanned from #ubuntu even after fixing your router, because your attitude in this situation has been unacceptable. please type /msg ubotu etiquette, make sure you understand the whole of it, and come back tomorrow in #ubuntu-ops. [17:08] and then he said that in #freenode when i attempted to report him for it [17:08] Piero_Scarufii: You were banned originally from #ubuntu (along with others) because you were exploited by a malicious user. [17:09] Piero_Scarufii, I know. but, let us talk for a moment [17:09] my attitude wasnt disproportional i thought i was being hacked i didnt know he is a ubuntu staffer [17:09] it was a channel filled with bots [17:09] Piero_Scarufii: Did you read the topic in that channel? [17:09] ok i am listening [17:10] i didnt have a chance the bots were spamming [17:10] Piero_Scarufii, the bots were giving you instructions in reply to you saying something other than what they were expecting [17:10] how should i know that [17:11] i am not used to dealing with bots [17:11] Piero_Scarufii, because of what they were saying, and because of what the topic of the channel says and what chanserv messages you when you join [17:11] and i didnt trust the bots [17:11] i thought it was a hackers channel [17:11] * Now talking on #ubuntu-read-topic [17:11] * Topic for #ubuntu-read-topic is: Your router is buggy 1) Please follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit to FIX it, 2) and then type the two words « test me » in this channel, 3) If the automatic test FAILS, then type « /join #ubuntu-ops » and ask to be tested there by the operators [17:11] * Topic for #ubuntu-read-topic set by ompaul at Tue Mar 11 22:59:58 2008 [17:11] its all too late now he banned me [17:12] and wont let me back in even when i fix it [17:12] Piero_Scarufii, maybe not today, but, he did say to fix yourself and come back tomorrow, and talk to us. LjL is a reasonable person, and your attitude, when he was trying to be helpful, wasn't very good. [17:13] i thought he was a hacker [17:13] I understand that you may have been dubious regarding the channel, but, he did say, and you could have always joined here to confirm [17:13] and he disconnected me on purpose in that channel [17:13] Piero_Scarufii, you were asking to be unbanned. [17:14] i didnt know the channels were affiliated i found out in #freenode [17:14] Piero_Scarufii, the information was available to you in the topic of the channel. [17:14] How would you have even gotten into the channel had we not forwarded you there? [17:14] anybody can make a channel with ubuntu in it [17:14] on freenode [17:14] If you didnt read that, that is our problem. [17:14] the bots were spamming [17:14] *not our problem [17:14] i am just a confused user [17:14] Piero_Scarufii, however, the Ubuntu Team have the power to request the removal of any # [17:15] and i get punished for it [17:15] #ubuntu-* channel [17:15] Piero_Scarufii, you were punished for your inability to listen. [17:15] i freaked [17:15] i thought i was under attack [17:15] so yes of course i couldnt listen i wasnt calm [17:16] you were flooding the bots, who were giving you instructions. [17:17] [17:50:51] Piero_Scarufii: Either say « test me » after following the instructions, or consult the operators if unclear (did you read the instructions carefully?) [17:17] LjL stepped in to try and help, and you wouldn't listen. [17:17] plus, there's also the fact that you are still an exploitable user [17:18] i saw a talking bot [17:18] Piero_Scarufii, you will not be unbanned from #ubuntu tomorrow [17:18] saying it was human [17:18] Piero_Scarufii, you will not be unbanned from #ubuntu today * [17:18] i thought it was some sham [17:18] what does that mean Mez? [17:18] however, if you follow the instructions to fix your exploitable router, then you MAY be allowed back in there in the future. [17:18] so i will be banned for a long time because of this? [17:19] Piero_Scarufii, I don't have the power to overturn the ban. But, now you understand what happened, if you go fix your router, and come back tomorrow, apologise, and have a chat with LjL, without being rude, he should be kind enough to let you back in [17:19] because you guys are incapable of creating a method of helping users without confusing them i thought ubuntu was for keeping things simple [17:19] no he wont let me back in [17:19] Piero_Scarufii, everyone else has no problem with reading the instructions [17:19] Piero_Scarufii: How do you suggest we make it simpler? [17:20] and he did purposely disconnect me when i doubted him [17:20] that shouldnt be allowed on freenode [17:20] and he should apologize to me [17:20] Piero_Scarufii: you won't be unbanned from #ubuntu even after fixing your router, because your attitude in this situation has been unacceptable. please type /msg ubotu etiquette, make sure you understand the whole of it, and come back tomorrow in #ubuntu-ops. [17:20] i will report it to the freenode staffers [17:20] Piero_Scarufii, feel free - the email address is staff@freenode.net [17:20] i saved the logs as evidence [17:20] Piero_Scarufii, we also have logs, which *I* have already forwarded to freenode staffers [17:20] You already have. They understand and have sactioned the actions that we do in #ubuntu-read-topic [17:21] i will go to higest freenode staff and i will do it in my own unique way he is rude and banned me and discourages me from fixing my exploit [17:21] good [17:21] very good [17:21] he shouldnt be allowed to exploit and disconnect me [17:21] not even to show me i am vulnerable [17:22] Piero_Scarufii, one moment, I'm trying to see if I can contact the person whos in charge of freenode for you [17:22] hi :) [17:22] ikke sant prov igjen D: [17:23] hva skal man prove igjen? [17:23] :/ thats all the Norsk i know [17:23] well, 'not true, try again' is a good start i suspect [17:23] this is a terrible mix up [17:23] was there anything i could help with? [17:24] i dunno but someone exploited my vulnerable router in #ubuntu-read-topic to show me i was vulnerable i didnt know it was a ubuntu affiliated channel [17:24] its just a mix up if i fix my issue i should be let back in [17:24] generally you will find that all #ubuntu-* channels are affiliated with the ubuntu project :) [17:24] i do apologize for being confused by ubuntu operators [17:24] they are too good at it [17:25] esp. LjL who adressed me under a bot nick [17:26] He was in the process of maintaining the bots and it was the quickest way for him to get into the channel. [17:27] oh, they are very good at being confusing -- i have long since given up on trying to work them out, they generally mean well though :) [17:27] * Mez -> smoke [17:27] yeah but should i be discouraged to not fix my issue now because i cant get in #ubuntu in the near future [17:28] can't win with hierarchies its the same allover the place the outsiders and third parties can never be right well i know i am right [17:28] i am not entirely sure what happened as i wasnt there [17:29] i was disconnected by an exploit exploited by LjL a DCC exploit to show me i was vulnerable and that shouldnt be allowed on freenode not even by example [17:29] he should have used words and not an exploit [17:29] i saved the log [17:30] as soon as i said i was going to report him i was booted out of the channel [17:30] and he came with his announcement that i wouldnt get back in #ubuntu not even after i fixed the problem [17:30] i actually very much agree with that (in regards to the exploit) [17:30] thank you [17:31] and i'm a bit surprised to hear that he'd use one as i am sure he is aware it's a offense which generally goes hand in hand with a network ban :o [17:32] and i certainly can understand if said action made you respond with somewhat of an attitude [17:32] 00[17:51] my connection is fine [17:32] [17:51] <@FloodBot1> Piero_Scarufii: Either say « test me » after following the instructions, or consult the operators if unclear (did you read the instructions carefully?) [17:32] [17:51] <@FloodBot4> then why will the following disconnect you? [17:32] [17:51] some hackers on here [17:32] Session Close: Thu Apr 10 17:51:42 2008 [17:32] see i have proof [17:32] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62734/ [17:33] that made me angry [17:33] sorry Mez [17:33] i am still a bit sad and angry i get treated this way [17:33] Piero_Scarufii: let us quickly read over that log :) [17:34] sure i will post it on pastebin [17:34] ta, I'll quickly walk home while you do :) [17:34] see [17:34] Piero_Scarufii, no, thats the log we have. [17:34] he exploited me [17:35] tomaw, christel: LjL prefixed his pasting of that pastebin link with this: 11:56:28 yes, before that, he said a lot of messages (that i couldn't see) causing the bot to reply "either say blah" a number of times [17:35] and then i get banned for an x amount of time [17:35] thats not fair [17:35] backtrack please, did Piero_Scarufii get banforwarded to that channel? [17:35] christel: Yes. [17:35] ok [17:35] christel: We had an attack in #ubuntu and he and a number of users were forwarded there. [17:36] i thought it was a hackers channel [17:36] i didnt saw the forwarding [17:36] Piero_Scarufii: looking at that log it seems pretty clear that you have no idea why you ended up in said channel, and didn't really get a clear explanation when asking [17:36] later i found out in #freenode [17:36] and i can understand that this will have been both confusing and frustrating, i would have felt the same [17:36] it belonged to the ubuntu community [17:37] i don't think it was the ubuntu ops teams intention to annoy you though, and while i do believe they could have taken more care to try explain the situation, i also believee its one of those scenarios they walk through so many times a day that it probably is no longer 2nd nature to even think to do so [17:38] they wished to alert you to a router exploit your end after a dcc exploit attack on the main channel, you were in no way singled out, and they tried to help, educate and empower you [17:38] yeah by sending me a dcc exploit [17:38] thats not allowed on freenode [17:38] he made a mistake and on top of it punished me [17:38] Piero_Scarufii: Unfortunately, thats the only way we know of to test if the fix has been applied. [17:39] I don't see him requesting to be tested [17:39] Does it happen without requests too? [17:39] in my case it did [17:39] tomaw: I dont believe so, but LjL is the one to ask, he designed the bots. [17:39] It could be worth reviewing the code to ensure that that can't happen in future. [17:39] Indeed. [17:39] Piero_Scarufii: i agree there, i am quite surprised and a bit shocked at that happening, and i will speak with LjL about that [17:39] It's one thing to have it test on request but quite another to have it happen at random [17:40] tomaw, Floodbot4 in that log is LjL [17:40] oh wow he did it twice even [17:40] Mez: it's not clear from that paste which nick sent the test [17:41] if he apologizes i will too but i am not the only one to blame there [17:42] tomaw, the log is from a client, so I'd presume it was from LjL [17:42] Piero_Scarufii: from what i can see it looks like it may have been somewhat of a misunderstanding, and i certainly dont believe you had any ill-intent at any point [17:43] however, LjL doesnt appear to be around to enlighten us :) [17:43] christel, indeed, LjL had to leave [17:44] how convenient for him [17:44] dfeuer: actually, i have to go, so join #ubuntu-ops and ask there [17:44] (when dealing with another user [17:44] and so i will have to remain banned from #ubuntu for a long time for a misunderstanding [17:44] unfortunately we also have life outside IRC [17:45] we haven't been pardoned from that burden [17:45] a ha. [17:45] * PriceChild looks in [17:45] hi priceywisey [17:45] ompauls not here, bugger [17:45] Hey christelleywistelleyy [17:46] I think it can be very difficult to distinguish between people who dont know what is going on and people who like to pretend they dont know what is going on [17:47] I don't know what you are talking about ^____^ [17:47] * PriceChild wishes he had remembered to op in the channel [17:47] lol [17:47] Seeker`: very true. [17:47] hilarious [17:47] so can i be unbanned from #ubuntu please [17:47] the log proves my case [17:47] i hope [17:47] Piero_Scarufii: Did you fix your client yet? [17:48] i dunno i am on the 8001 port but i am banned in the test channel so i cant test [17:48] Piero_Scarufii: if you've fixed things so you can't be exploited anymore, you can say testme in -read-topic, a bot will try, if it fails it will remove the ban. [17:48] Piero_Scarufii: I can test you here, but you have to understand that doing so involves using the exploit to prove that you are no longer vulnerable. [17:48] i am banned there [17:48] by LJL [17:48] PriceChild, also banned form -read-topic [17:49] lemme fix that [17:49] ah [17:49] Piero_Scarufii: Also, please keep your statements on one line, rather than using the enter key as punctuation. === Mez is now known as Floodbot5 [17:49] ok [17:49] test me [17:50] hmz [17:50] * Floodbot5 is only temp on this nick so that he can unban you when he finds the password [17:50] still banned there [17:50] Floodbot5: why are you using that nick? [17:50] PriceChild, so I can unban Piero_Scarufii in -r-t [17:50] (as noone seems to have access [17:50] Floodbot5: why don't you just ask someone who is active to do it? [17:50] Nope. [17:51] Floodbot5: I am currently +o in there..? [17:51] PriceChild, I thought only nalioth had access === Floodbot5 is now known as Mez [17:51] Piero_Scarufii: Looks like you are still vulnerable. Please read the instructions again, more carefully. [17:51] Mez: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-read-topic list [17:51] Piero_Scarufii: is all sorted and well for now? [17:52] Mez: all ubuntu/members have access, i don't think the floodbot passwords are public knowledge? or did you know them from working on them? [17:52] christel: Sorry for dragging you into this, thanks for the help mediating the situation. [17:52] Pici: no worries, always happy to help where we can :) [17:52] (Do the instructions clearly state to restart your client? I haven't checked them out lately.) [17:53] it's simple maths really [17:53] christel no i am banned in #freenode #ubuntu and the test channel i can test if i am on the right port now [17:53] happy users = happy staff = happy christel [17:53] tonyyarusso: yes, in bold [17:53] /me hugs christel [17:53] Piero_Scarufii: I believe Mez is unbanning you now. [17:53] LoReZ banned me in #freenode [17:53] * christel hugs Myrtti [17:53] PriceChild: good, good. [17:53] * tonyyarusso just waits then [17:53] from #u-r-t at least. [17:53] ok [17:53] christel: by that logic, does happy christel infer happy staff so happy users? [17:53] PriceChild: happy christel usually means frightened staff :/ [17:54] i cant work that one out [17:54] "Hmm... something is wrong..." [17:54] i'll be all 'BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE' and you're all like 'OK IM GOING ON HOLIDAY GOODBYE' and im sat here going 'whaa? :(' [17:54] christel, could I bother you a second in query? [17:54] Piero_Scarufii: your #freenode ban is lifted [17:54] i am not happy yet christel i have too many bans and i was going to ask for a cloak they will decline it when i have this many bans [17:54] no0tic: why but of course [17:55] PriceChild: did you unban Piero_Scarufii from -r-t [17:55] ty christel [17:55] mez_: now i have. [17:55] PriceChild: thanks, damned net died [17:55] Piero_Scarufii: np [17:55] mez_ works for vbulletin? Why then is it not yet open-source? [17:56] tonyyarusso, cause i wouldnt get paid if it was [17:56] bah, support! [17:57] tonyyarusso, :P [17:58] NOW I know WHO to attack with vbulletin problems! [17:58] HÄHÄ! [17:58] [17:58] Piero_Scarufii, you can now join #ubuntu-read-topic, where the bots will automatically test you if you say "test me" - but please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit first [17:58] MWAHAHA [17:58]