[00:00] New bug: #189772 in mesa-utils (main) "[hardy] glxinfo uses 100% CPU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189772 [00:05] New bug: #150638 in linux-source-2.6.22 "framebuffer mode results in black screen starting with kernel 2.6.22-13-generic (dup-of: 129910)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150638 [02:49] New bug: #183869 in xorg-server (main) "mouse is not working after upgrading to hardy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183869 [07:22] bryce: whoa, you closed a couple of intel bugs :) [07:23] :-) [07:24] tjaalton: halfway to my goal of reducing -intel to <100 bugs [07:25] I guess there are a lot of bugs on drivers which should really be against mesa [07:26] DRI, 3D etc [07:26] could be [07:26] it's interesting how much easier it is working on bugs once they're cataloged properly [07:27] right [07:27] so like today since I'd finished with New, I just focused on bugs marked 'Incomplete' [07:28] next time I'll focus on the confirmed ones and get them upstreamed [07:28] or ask to try with hardy [07:28] I did that a lot today [07:28] yeah [07:28] it was interesting just how large a portion of the bugs were plain old out of date [07:30] sort of makes me think how unproductive a lot of the bug reporting efforts are - the bug report never gets seen upstream, yet the issue got fixed anyway, so the effort of reporting the bug merely generated work, with no benefit. [07:30] not really their fault though of course [07:31] I think our documentation should be changed to use 'lspci -nn | grep VGA', which should be enough. -vvnn creates too much noise [07:32] thats partly because there are too many bugs open [07:32] ..still [07:32] so if we only had those that we are certain about, it would be easier to identify new ones and forward upstream [07:34] yup [07:36] having a release biannually doesn't really help :P [07:37] in any case, I feel like we're making good progress with them [07:38] I'd like to get to a point where I can focus on creating fixes more than just managing bug loads [07:57] a reasonable goal indeed :) [07:58] yay, we are below 1600 bugs (1580) [07:59] nice; where is that totaled? [07:59] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+packagebugs [07:59] that's my start page when triaging [08:01] bbl [08:01] ah cool [08:02] looks like most bugs are in lrm [08:52] yeah :/ [08:53] ati needs a cleanup as well [08:53] maybe I should put the BTFH hat on and start bashing :P [09:12] hehe :-) [09:19] bryce: did you notice my comment about the bug list you showed me? only one of them has been tested against the ~latest driver, and the rest should be fixed according to upstream (I actually closed some of them) [09:19] this was about intel vs. i810 [09:20] oh cool, no I missed that [09:20] so it looks like i810 could be dropped IMHO [09:20] was that this page? http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogasawara/qa-hardy-list-archive/sort-by-package/current-buglist.html [09:21] 12:04 < bryce> 114331 135093 147189 157610 16887 131972 and probably others [09:21] nope, that :) [09:21] ahh [09:22] 147189 is the one that seems to be valid now, and I forwared it upstream [09:23] ok [09:24] there were some more 8xx ones I looked at in doing the triage today. I don't remember whether I asked for them to be re-tested or if they looked legit [09:26] but yeah, I think we're getting close to being ready to deprecate it [09:26] I asked Shaun (147189) to try the latest driver [09:27] since it seems that the past week there has been some changes that should fix issues with i830 [09:38] ooh, new -intel this morning :) [09:38] heya Ng [09:38] hey hey :) [09:39] how evil am I for using EXA, greedy migration and "ExaNoComposite" "false"? [09:39] seems to make EXA as nippy as XAA [09:40] for me just the greedy stuff is enough (965) [09:40] bryce: we actually toyed with the idea to use EXA only for 965 and use greedy :) [09:40] this was on #ubuntu-desktop yesterday [09:44] not a bad idea actually [09:46] and XAA for the rest [09:46] I'm not sure if it's doable, but.. [09:47] yeah, I was wondering if that's feasible myself [09:48] bedtime... night [09:48] greedy makes it use CPU more, so I haven't tried what happens to the battery lifetime [09:48] night! [09:48] hmm [09:48] there's something odd about the new driver [09:49] Ng: oh? describe [09:49] tjaalton: it's quite hard to describe, but things like the fading in of menus is more like a flicker [09:49] and it almost seems like colours are made up of 8bit gif dithering [09:50] hmm [09:51] Ng: you had 945? [09:51] nah this is 855 [09:51] ah ok [09:53] gonna try pulling out those options [09:53] it's possible my eyes have just gone funny ;) [09:54] no, that didn't help :/ [09:58] going back to XAA doesn't seem to have helped either [09:59] ok, so it seems like a regression then [10:02] a pretty hard one to describe, but for example glxgears - the green gear looks like it alternates between light green dots and dark green dots instead of all of the pixels being a uniform green [10:04] I should still have the old package, I'll give that a try again just to be sure I'm not mad [10:04] hehe [10:06] nope, definitely not mad :) [10:06] 2:2.2.0+git20080107-1ubuntu2 is better [10:07] should be pretty easy to bisect then [10:07] yes, since that version had all the commits up to ~Jan 31. [10:14] filed as #189868 [10:15] thanks [10:37] looks like the only possible commit which broke this is "Allow non-strict free order for bo_list" a70b59bd44d14e77c9e522dbe225b62a8bcf3050 [10:48] tjaalton: I'd be happy to test a build without that :) [10:48] Ng: git-revert a70b59bd; make :) [10:51] Ng: I'll reply to the bug, 'patch -R < foo' should work too :) [11:01] yeah, menus work fine on my 965 [11:17] New bug: #189863 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "[Hardy]Window borders are not drawn using fglrx" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189863 [11:17] New bug: #189868 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "regression in 2.2.0.90-2ubuntu2 on i855GM" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189868 [11:44] bah, wgetting that git link downoads 30kb of html [11:44] hmm? not here [11:45] in a browser I get a patch [11:45] 928 bytes [11:46] this is a patch to i830_memory.c, right? [11:47] yes [11:47] it's not reverse applying cleanly. just looking at why [11:48] it's not that huge either, so you can just edit by hand if all else fails :) [11:50] I sure wish patch could tell me why though [11:53] * Ng shrugs. visual inspections suggest I reverted it by hand fine, but the patch still doesn't apply. gonna build it and see what happens ;) [12:00] tjaalton: nope, still doing it without that patch, afaics [12:00] bah [12:08] Ng: look at the commits since the one 13 days ago, list found here http://gitweb.freedesktop.org/?p=xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel.git;a=shortlog;h=xf86-video-intel-2.2-branch [12:08] and apply one at a time on top of the working driver [12:08] but I guess you don't have the sources anymore? [12:10] you can find it here: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/dpkg [12:11] cool, ta [13:36] is there a known bug about middle click events being duplicates sometimes on hardy? [15:01] I don't remember seeing one [17:15] New bug: #189969 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Newest revision (2.2.0.90-2ubuntu2) leaves garbage on screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189969 [17:16] interesting [17:16] that's 855 [17:17] it's very distressing how many variants there are of each model. I've never seen anything remotely like that bug ;/ [17:35] could be the same commit that causes the breakage [17:41] Ng: even more important for you to find out which commit broke it :) [17:48] tjaalton: yeah, I'll try and work through the patches this weekend [17:48] hmm, I could forward it upstream in the meantime [18:21] done [18:33] cool, thanks [18:36] New bug: #36625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "can't remove nvidia-glx" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36625 [19:31] New bug: #22297 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "no icon for nvidia settings in gnome menu (dup-of: 44897)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22297 [19:36] \o/ the only remaining bug regarding i830 is fixed with 2.2.0.90 [19:36] so now we only have the regression with 855 :) [19:36] whoohoo [19:37] so, we could drop -i810 with 2.2.1 final [19:37] I don't think it's of much value anymore, unless someone really insists on using xinerama [19:38] going through lrm bugs btw.. man, there are plenty [19:39] yeah [19:40] when I was looking at fglrx the other day, I just searched on "fglrx" so I could focus on just that subset [19:40] the good thing is that many bugs are marked against many lrm versions, so it's trivial to mark wontfix the old ones [19:40] yup [19:41] bug 36625 might have the information needed to finally fix the nvidia/fglrx uninstall issues.. [19:41] Launchpad bug 36625 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 "can't remove nvidia-glx" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36625 [19:41] (bumped the version, was against 2.6.17) [19:43] seems like if mesa has been updated or tried another revision of the driver, this could happen [19:50] New bug: #190004 in xf86-input-evtouch (universe) "Please merge xf86-input-evdev 0.8.7-3 (universe) from debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190004 [19:56] New bug: #54335 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "fglrx should contain install instructions" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54335 [19:56] New bug: #54966 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "nvidia-glx boasts unnecessary dependencies" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54966 [19:58] yeah [19:58] after FF I want to really hammer on some bugs - hopefully I'll have this xrandr gui done by then! [20:00] there's been a lot of people coming to us about keyboard and mouse problems... makes me think we need to look into that more seriously [20:02] New bug: #22255 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "Potential deadlock when the connection to the AP is lost?" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22255 [20:02] we should switch to input-hotplug (=evdev).. :) [20:03] ie. waiting for gravity [20:06] New bug: #48276 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "iwlist can make network tools unusable when it crash" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48276 [22:46] New bug: #158317 in compiz (main) "Random screen flicker on Dell Inspiron 9400 (dup-of: 164589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158317 [22:46] New bug: #160747 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Random black frames (screen flickering) #7.10 (dup-of: 164589)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160747 [23:15] New bug: #34017 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (restricted) "Include nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34017 [23:35] New bug: #39082 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "nVidia driver in dapper API mismatch" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39082 [23:46] New bug: #126251 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "nvidia-settings menu item missing (dup-of: 44897)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126251 [23:57] New bug: #149204 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 "[gutsy] Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149204