[00:43] in xfce, whats the default theme used? [00:45] Ven]n: do you mean window manager theme, or 'user interface settings' theme/ [00:46] user interface settings :p [00:47] the default one used in recent versios of xubuntu is murrina storm cloud. the default xfce one is just 'xfce' i think. [00:47] ok [00:47] thanks [00:47] the default xfce icon theme is 'rodent' but xubuntu has used the tango icon theme as our default [00:47] ok [00:48] are there many other themes to download? [00:48] xfce-look.org has some other ones [00:48] most themes from gnome-look.org also work. [00:49] any specific you reccommend? [00:49] i like the default window manager theme, but like the xubuntu-studio icons. if you search google for xubuntu-studio icons, you will find them. [00:50] ty [00:50] yw [00:51] hello all [00:52] wel this channel is not very active either it seems [00:54] where do i put xubuntu-studio icons ? [00:58] Yo, anyone active? [00:59] !ask ollie_ [00:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about ask ollie_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:59] !ask [00:59] Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-) [01:00] oh well, sweet, Well i've just loaded on Xubuntu to my Eee and ive installed all the new web-cam program. But when i run the web-cam prog it just shows black [01:01] Does anyone know why my sd card reader would work and show a mounted SD card when I first start up my computer but then once I remove it and put it in again it wouldn't mount? [01:01] ollie_, xubuntu and not eeexubuntu? [01:02] kosha, did you umount the drive and then mount the new one? [01:02] my bad, eeeXubuntu [01:02] http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:customization#camera [01:02] did you do that? [01:04] yeah, ive done both. and i have the icon in my tray [01:04] and i can en/disable it no problems [01:04] you have enabled it in bios? [01:05] yeah [01:05] i enabled mine in bios, then downloaded ucview [01:05] that was it [01:05] no extra software or anything [01:06] eeexubuntu r3 of course [01:06] i guess ill just deal with then [01:06] cheers for the help [01:07] sorry i couldnt be of more help :) [01:07] try in #eeepc [01:08] is there a chanel for help with xubuntu hardy? [01:10] im not sure, im sorta new to xubuntu and xchat [01:10] so im just winging it at the moment [01:12] vidd: AFAIK all the hardy stuff is in #ubuntu+1 [01:12] ty [01:17] is fiesty still supported? [01:17] yes, until hardy [01:18] im trying to copy some icons into /usr/share/icons .. but i get omitting directory.. why? [01:18] you need to do -Rf [01:18] -R is "recursive" ... [01:18] so it included directories [01:19] you also might need to "sudo" [01:19] vidd: no i just took out the sd card and stuck it back in without umounting or anything [01:19] When I first startup the system the SD card shows up as a mounted drive [01:19] but when I take it out of the sd reader [01:19] it goes away [01:19] but then when i reinsert the SD card [01:19] it doesn't mount it again [01:20] vidd, thanks [01:20] that is most likely the issue...i dont use SD cards, so i dont really know what to say [01:40] its a pita finding a good theme for xfce.. any suggestions? [02:03] what is the command for terminal [02:03] I want to add it to my launcher [02:03] but terminal or Terminal dont' work [02:04] ryan_: xfce4-terminal [02:04] okay, thanks [02:04] anytime [02:12] okay new issue, now my panels have disapperead on me [02:13] if I run gnome-panel from the terminal it will load but it will obviously close once I do [02:13] do I have to put the command into my autostarted apps? [02:35] ryan_: alt+f2 then run gnome-panel [02:36] okay [02:37] excellent, thanks [02:37] np [02:50] hmm [02:50] any japanese speakers here? [02:50] yes? [02:50] i'm using scim on eeexubuntu [02:50] idk [02:51] and chinese works, korean works (romaja) [02:51] i think there is a eeexubuntu chanel...dont recall the name offhand [02:52] it's not #eeexubuntu, afaik [02:52] it was mentioned earlier if someone could offer it [02:52] (ive left and came back) [02:53] I've been trying to ge scim to work for a while no [02:53] now* [02:53] no dice, I can't chose the jap IME [02:53] and it doesn't even load properly [02:53] oh [02:53] #eeepc [02:54] yeah...thats it! [02:54] ryan_: weird, do you have scim-anthy installed? [02:54] so i have a 'normal' gutsy installed on a desktop [02:54] and scim-anthy works just fine [02:55] that's the name anthy, I had that before upgrading to gutsy [02:56] but I forgot the name and scim just wasn't workin for me [02:56] ryan_: on my gnome gutsy machine, anthy works just fine [02:56] duncanm, does gnome work correctly on your eee? [02:57] vidd: i don't have gnome, because i only have eeexubuntu [02:57] because of this japanese glitch, i'm considering switching to gutsy + eee-compat scriptpack [02:58] but some dude on #eeepc just said i should stick with eeexubuntu [02:58] let me hunt down some help? [02:58] oh? [02:58] woohoo [02:58] there's a japanese page on this, maybe [02:58] * duncanm tries to read it [02:58] let me see if I can install it with synaptic [02:58] eeeh [02:58] he says japanese input just worked for him [02:59] well I have it installed already [02:59] I just can't find it to run it [03:00] yeah it exits abnormally [03:01] i tried google, and it looks like all the relevent pages are in japaneese [03:01] =[ [03:02] so im afraid i will be of no help [03:02] one of the pages says it worked without any hassle [03:02] have you rebooted? [03:02] sure [03:04] have you tried dpkg-reconfigure anthy? [03:04] and maybe apt-get install anthy-el [03:04] that's for emacs [03:05] I'll give them a shot [03:06] if anthy-el dont fix it, you can just apt-get remove --purge to take it back off [03:06] =] [03:07] i dont understand Japanese so i dont know if it works for me or not [03:07] =\ [03:10] Anything in Latin sounds profound [03:10] my problem seem related to this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scim-anthy/+bug/107391 [03:10] Launchpad bug 107391 in scim-anthy "scim-anthy does not work and make any application which uses it hang" [Undecided,New] [03:26] hi o/ [03:26] hi [03:35] question: i have a laptop asus eee uner eeexubuntu, i've mounted a external disk usb, but when i launch a .deb installer, i can't find the disk in the folder , any idea? [03:36] where did you mount it to [03:37] hum in /media [03:37] i' a novice in using any linux system maybe i forgot a simple thing [03:38] did you run the mount command in terminal to mount it to /media if you do a reboot it wont auto-mount unless its in the fstab folder [03:39] when i unplug it it disappear, and when i plug it back it appear, i supposed it automatically mounts no? [03:39] it takes me a long time but now i have the permissions on it [03:40] the icon will show up but it may not me mounted. open your terminal and type "fdisk -l" and tell me where the device is it will be like /dev/sd[a|b] [03:41] do you know how big it is [03:41] one moment i pick up m just my notebook, just have to wipe the cat out he's sleeping over it [03:42] after the command look and see what size is the correct one and tell me what the /dev part says [03:54] ok here i am [03:55] it give me an error "only root user can mount /dev/sdc1 on /mnt/usb [03:55] so...sudo it [03:56] then chown it if needed [03:57] soldats, its give me good infos about the disk [03:57] /dev/sdc1 [03:59] "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media" should work [04:00] an0nyme, that should mount it ^^ [04:00] i think i said that =\ [04:00] yep it mounted it [04:00] vidd, he was looking for the full command :) [04:01] ah [04:01] I have a fresh install of xubuntu with compiz fusion running. Also installed Avant Window Navigator... but i dont seem to have any of the applets for it. Are they in another package? [04:01] little dence today [04:01] an0nyme, well try to install whatever you needed and see if it works [04:01] vidd, :P me too. [04:02] soldats, wont am0nym[eee] need to chownthe disk first ? [04:02] * vidd missed half the convo! [04:03] im not entirely sure if he cant write to it he only said only root can mount it [04:03] it will need to be mounted via root in order to chmod it anyways [04:03] right...but that will mount it with it chowned to root [04:04] hum a new error [04:04] write permissions? [04:04] no [04:05] with the install of the .deb [04:05] what does the error say? [04:06] cannot obtain lock on the /media.hal/mtab [04:07] what are you trying to do? [04:08] nothing [04:08] cannot obtain lock means some other app is using that file/directory [04:09] are you trying to run a .deb from there? [04:10] you have to be doing SOMETHING... otherwise no error would show [04:10] hum [04:10] i try a rebbot k? [04:10] what are you trying to do...in general? [04:10] install a program? [04:10] my objective [04:11] yes [04:11] is to isntall a game on the usb disk [04:11] install??? [04:11] because i just have 4 gig on the ssd in the notebook [04:12] yes i have a .deb installer and i'd like to install the game on the usb disk [04:14] a new error, [04:14] so then it saounds like you need to set up some kind of LVM to include the run-path and install-path between /usr/bin and that usb [04:15] maybe my fstab is corrupted [04:16] this is outside my experience [04:16] yes vidd it looks like this [04:16] i m first going to reinstall the new retail of eeexubuntu [04:16] and then i'll see [04:17] install it with the usb in place [04:17] so that the install will knowits there [04:17] any idea [04:18] during the set-up, choose to set up with LVM [04:18] so that / will span the main drive andthe USB [04:18] what is "lvm" [04:19] "Logical Volume Management" (or something similar) [04:19] ok the packet i dowloaded via synaptic [04:19] it lets your file system span one directory over one or more physical partitions [04:20] and if you set / to span both partions, then your whole filesystem will [04:20] it s a live cd it does'nt cause any prob? [04:21] or, you can set the /home directory on the USB...since that uses up more HD space (in most cases) it might be a better choice [04:21] * vidd avoids the live cd's like the plague [04:22] i wont do a live cd install [04:23] i try it once per release [04:23] and i have yet to be problem free [04:25] i need to reboot [04:25] ok [04:25] soldats, you going to be ableto help him further? [04:26] if my upgrade is successful, i wont be back on [04:26] i m downlading rc 3 of xxxubuntu for eee and i'll see to isntall it on usb disk wit lvm [04:27] afaik if he does /home on the usb as well as that main hdd he should be fine [04:28] sorry i was in the ubuntu-az meeting reading and catching up [04:28] np [04:28] yes i t s a good solution, if i can install my system on the usb i don't have any permissions pb i think [04:28] bt yea doing /home onthe usb should do what you want [04:29] but it implicates i have to boot on the usb disk every time [04:29] yes [04:29] ill try first a install on the ssd [04:30] just updating the lvm packets, and modyfiing nothin in fstab [05:06] So does this mean anything: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Xubuntu_is_no_longer_supported_by_Canonical [05:06] Are just the packages moving to universe, or is Xubuntu as a project going away? [05:07] I do so love the Xubuntu live CD. [05:16] bytor4232: Nothing is changing for the end-user [05:17] I certainly hope so. [05:18] somerville32: I was quite impressed with your defense of XFCE, if it could be called that. [05:18] somerville32: You spoke with eloquence and intelligence, and represented us Xubuntu users quite well. [05:19] So when 8.04 and 8.10 are released, Xubuntu will still be an option, as will "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" [05:20] Is this true? [05:20] bytor4232: Correct. We will also continue to make ISOs available [05:29] Whew. [05:30] I'm extremely happy about that. My fear, and the fear of the digger at the link above, is that Ubuntu was trying to re-absorb all the specialized distro spinoffs, like xubuntu, edubuntu, and kubuntu. [05:30] I like the fact that Ubuntu has specialized projects like Xubuntu. [05:56] how i can format a extern usb disk in fat 32, it s actually in ntfs and i have son rights problems [06:03] I need some help with Xubuntu [06:04] I need to know the text commands to install the nvidia binary drivers and the commands to configure it [06:05] !nvidia | chrsghoyt will these pages help? [06:05] chrsghoyt will these pages help?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [06:06] I'll check [06:06] other wise sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new i think is the correct one [06:09] yeah that documentation didn't seem to help me much [06:09] it seems to describe how to do it when you have at least some graphics working [06:09] I have none [06:10] my card is an evga 7800GT [06:10] I'm in Windows right now so I'll have to reboot to try that command out [06:11] there was some command to reconfigure xorg or something that I might need too [06:12] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [06:14] ok I think it is time to go try it and then I'll come back and report on how it went [06:14] thanks for the help [06:24] !dualboot > soldats [06:25] I'm back and it worked [06:25] I have graphics now [06:25] yay [06:25] im glad [06:26] now I just need to do something similar for my wireless network card and I'll be able to get online in Linux [06:42] srry lost the page [06:43] looks like I might need to use NDISwrapper [06:44] I wonder if that will work with 64 bit Xubuntu [06:46] worth a shot. i dont really know about wireless im always connected to my router [06:47] yeah I have an ethernet jack in the wall but it isn't working right now [06:47] the wireless has been a good backup in Windows for me though [06:48] better than nothing [06:49] yea :) [07:26] hi could someone help, i've just done a fresh install from ubuntu to xubuntu and tried to disable mouse accel though xset m on startup but it wont work for some reason. I've added "xset m 0 0" to autostarted applications but i can still feel mouse accel, mouse accel goes if i disable type the command in terminal. Also im using xchat gnome and as i type i keep getting system error beeps lol. [07:59] Hey, ive just installed eeexubuntu and im just wondering what is the equivilant to Win MSconfig? [08:00] ive got two of the same prog in the taskbar running [08:03] ollie_: network monitor? [08:03] cheers, thanks [08:04] argh [08:11] ollie_: it's not the name of msconfig, I was asking if it's the application that you have two times [08:11] ollie_: I don't even know what msconfig is [08:11] ohhh ok, it shows you what starts up and lets you disable the program [08:12] ive got my Eeecamtray running twice [08:13] ollie_: settings->autostarted applications [08:14] yeah thats un-ticket [08:15] i'll remove it completly [08:15] ollie_: close them and save your session when logging out [08:16] er..to save the session..how do you do that? [08:16] im sorta new [11:17] hello [11:17] hewow [11:31] !stop [11:31] NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken. [11:52] here, this video is helpful http://www.fat-pie.com/healthreminder.htm [12:17] does anyone know the cli command for the gdm login manager? [12:18] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start - is that what you need neeto? [12:19] I need to edit the gdm settings [12:19] settings->login window [12:20] yeah... I lost that [12:23] gdmsetup [12:23] with sudo [12:23] thanks mate === Igorots is now known as Knightlust [14:11] what are system requirements for xubuntu? [14:45] IdleOne: see on xubuntu.org [14:45] IdleOne: in the 'get' section [15:04] TheSheep: ty [15:39] anyone gotten logitech vx nano to work in xubuntu/eeexubuntu? [16:10] i dont understand why evdev driver under mouse configuration is interfering with the keyboard [16:10] any ideas? [16:14] it's a generic usb device driver [16:15] not just for mouse, also for usb keyboards and all sorts of other controllers [16:15] its causing my down arrow key to work as enter [16:15] and my layout is no longer "no" [16:15] Ven]n: can you pastebin the relevant section of your xorg.conf? [16:15] but "eng" [16:15] yes, one sec [16:16] http://rafb.net/p/WXj5a097.html [16:18] Ven]n: ah, it's a single receiver for both wireless keyboard and mouse? [16:19] no [16:19] only for the mouse [16:19] you keyboard is connected via usb? what model is it? [16:19] but i have little knowledge about this so im only trying to follow guides [16:19] laptop [16:19] eee pc [16:19] :/ [16:20] hmmmm [16:20] how do I change which daemons start on startup? [16:20] system->services [16:21] ah [16:21] services-admin.. thanks [16:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-409870.html [16:21] evdev messes up keyboard :p [16:22] hmm.. thttpd isnt in there.. [16:23] iamsthitha: you can have much finer control (and opportunity to break things really bad) using sysv-rc-conf program that you can install from the repos [16:24] Ven]n: have you tried this solution? [16:25] TheSheep: where's that? [16:25] oh.. repos.. nvm [16:25] iamsthitha: it's a terminall application [16:25] terminal [16:25] ok.. [16:27] TheSheep, not yet :p [17:17] \o/ [17:22] hi just formated to xubuntu from ubuntu to and im trying to set fonts like gnome.. on gnome I had a res of 1280x1024 with 10px font and 80dpi, but on xubuntu I use the same res but cant set font to 80dpi. I've tried in "~/.config/Xft.xrdb" by adding "Xft.dpi: 80" but it doesn't change the font size at all. My fonts and theme is default on 1280x1024 atm with nvidia card. Help please :)) [17:31] whats the difference between ; and # in config files really? [17:35] Ven]n: which config files? [17:38] does it matter? [17:38] heh [17:38] why use # in xorg.conf and not ; for instance? [17:48] Ven]n: # is the standard for comments in the unix world, pretty much [17:48] ok [17:48] Ven]n: Microsoft had to be different in irrlevant details, so they used ; instead [17:54] i just edited a file for some opera settings (the browser) [17:54] they used ; [17:55] yes, they use the same syntax as the windows .ini files [17:56] Ven]n: Opera started as a windows application [17:58] hello. Since I upgraded to xubuntu 7.10 I can't find the power managment button in application > prefrence > screensaver settings. I wonder if there is another way to reach that. And there is not even this advanced tab in the screen saver settings. I have looked via the terminal and it says that I run gnome-screensaver (if that can be of any help) [17:59] TheSheep, yeah, i know :) [18:01] ADrop: yes, xubuntu switched to gnome-screensaver at some point [18:01] ADrop: I guess it doesn't hae advanced settings [18:04] TheSheep: hmm yes I have read about this switch in teh forums and other help documents. You wouldn't know a way via the terminal where I could change the settings? [18:06] ADrop: no, sorry, I neverd owned a laptop so I wasn't interested [18:06] TheSheep: oki, thanks anyway :) [18:20] is there a ppt viewer as light and quick as Abiword does doc? [18:32] is there a way to format a partion so the live cd can install? [19:10] i have a lot of dead suggestions in my "open with" list.. how do i remove them? [20:15] what plugins go i need to install to make totem-xine play mp3s? i dont want to use gstreamer. [20:15] libxine-extracodecs [20:15] thanks :) will try it now [20:17] hmm tried that before but i get this error Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package. [20:17] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [20:17] is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: ibxine1-ffmpegE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate [20:22] !repos [20:22] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [20:24] TheSheep: Thanks check that I had the repos but tried libxine1-ffmpeg and that worked. [20:25] ah, it must have been renamed [20:25] :) thanks for the help though [20:47] http://www.linux.org/news/2008/01/21/0001.html [20:50] Would Cannonical even have the authority to impliment something like that? [20:50] I thought Xubuntu was a community developed distro. [21:44] hello, does anyone know where I can get mass de-op scripts anywhere? [21:45] for the xubuntu IRC [21:55] little mindframe- don't be scared, I have candy, get into my car with me [21:55] err [22:07] hi, should live cd have taskbar & menu? I've got only desktop .. [22:08] paranoid1: this happens sometimes on low memory, press alt+f2 and type 'xfce-panel' [22:10] umm.. no such file or directory [22:11] sorry [22:11] xfce4-panel [22:11] no problem :) [22:50] i need help joining xubuntu to an existing xp network share. Anybody interested? === random__ is now known as RandomDestructn [22:55] goodnight :) [22:56] could anyone please run me through the steps of setting up a xubuntu/windows dual-boot? [22:58] Deadweight42: sure, install xubuntu on a machine with windows already instaleld. end. [22:58] Deadweight42: it will autodetect windows and set everything automatically [22:58] really? [22:58] Yes. [22:59] As long as windows was there first, you will have a menu to select Windows or Linux when the installer is done. [22:59] where would I download the installer then? [22:59] xubuntu.com/get [22:59] cool, thanks a bunch :) [23:05] i need help joining xubuntu to an existing xp network share. Anybody interested? [23:06] cookiemonster078: you need to install an application for that, it doesn't have any by default [23:07] cookiemonster078: pneighbourhood is one such an application [23:07] in the repository? [23:07] pyneighbourhood [23:07] sorry [23:08] !info pyneighbourhood [23:08] Package pyneighbourhood does not exist in gutsy [23:08] :/ [23:08] looks like it's not there anymore [23:08]