[00:20] do bans ever ex[ore [00:20] expire [00:21] articpenguin3800: No. [00:21] only if we remove them [00:21] articpenguin3800: We have to remove them manually, can I help you with something? [00:22] no i am not going to bother because i tried last month and they didnt belive me [00:23] are bans applied by ip range or single ips [00:23] Depends on the bam [00:24] ban. [00:24] evading a ban usually results in more bans [00:24] If you give me a few minutes, I can take a look at what we have in our logs for you.. [00:24] go aheaf [00:24] d [00:27] articpenguin3800: Do you remember what nickname you were in here as? or what the situation was regarding the not believing you? [00:28] no i dont remember the name but they banned me because of abusing !op [00:28] or sumthing like that [00:28] * PriceChild looks [00:28] Why did you call !op? [00:29] i didnt [00:29] proabaly someone on my network [00:30] Pici, look before that [00:30] articpenguin3800, do you use another nickname on the network at all? [00:31] PriceChild: I saw it. [00:31] ive only used this one [00:34] why? [00:35] articpenguin3800: You said that you came in here like a month or so ago to ask about the ban? [00:36] yes [00:37] ive changed the name since [00:37] ok so you have used a different name on the network....? [00:37] yes [00:37] You said no earlier? [00:38] ive used this one since and i dont plan on changing it [00:38] ok well if you're ever asking for a ban to be removed in the future, please answer questions truthfully no matter what you plan on doing in the future. [00:39] k [00:41] what dates are you looking at [00:41] Did you speak to the other people in your household about the bans? We had asked that you do that when you came in previously. [00:42] i dont remember being asked but i did ask [00:43] And? [00:43] Pici, what can I grep for to find this easily? [00:43] my brother said he did it [00:44] PriceChild: grep for falcon within your -ops log [00:44] thats why i changed from falcon to the new name i use [00:45] Pici, thanks [00:46] articpenguin3800, you blamed it on your brother last time you were in here? [00:46] he said he did it [00:47] could i suggest providing him with a seperate account on the machine? keep your login name to yourself as well as saved passwords etc. ? [00:47] i am doing that [00:47] And locking the screen when you are away. [00:48] thats what i have been doing in the past [00:49] If you can do those things, we can unban you. But if we see that sort of stuff from you again, you wont be getting another chance. [00:49] How does that sound? [00:49] ok [00:50] !guidelines | articpenguin3800 [00:50] articpenguin3800: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [00:50] thanks [00:51] is it possible for people to wipe a users password is recovery mode [00:51] articpenguin3800, yes [00:51] physical access is everything [00:52] articpenguin3800: You can join #ubuntu now [00:52] what about the kubuntu [00:52] I dont have access to that, PriceChild? [00:52] one set in +1 too [00:53] can i restrict programs somehow so only i can use it [00:54] !support | articpenguin3800 [00:54] articpenguin3800: the official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org [00:55] thanks [00:56] i will make my computer more secure from people [00:57] cya [01:25] elkbuntu, i got rid of wols [01:29] directed him to here as I'm about to go [01:31] got rid of him from where? [01:32] ah, i see [02:19] i'm going to be pretty much useless [02:20] had to install windows on my laptop for some work stuff and now the cd drive is dead so i can't install ubuntu again [02:20] !install [02:20] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [02:20] * Pici ducks [02:45] stdin: Wow, I didn't realise vit was in there that many times [02:45] ardchoille: he/she/it always is, just 8 concurrent connections was the proverbial straw in that case [02:46] I agree [02:46] in #kubuntu I presume? [02:46] yeah [02:46] Yes [02:46] I need to add that to my auto-join [02:47] he always starts connected as "vit_" then goes up to "vit________" and "vit_______freeno" this time [02:47] ugh.. [02:47] And this is the second time someone has hit the @es trigger for him/her/it [02:47] *!es [02:48] he's in -es too [02:48] Ah [02:49] do "/who *vit_*" to see all the pretty _'s [02:49] Weird.. they arent even from the same address. [02:50] Hmm.. multiple ip's too [02:50] yeah, I noticed that a few months ago [02:51] he's only ever spoken a few lines in #kubuntu, mostly just joins/quits/rejoins [02:51] I wonder how many of those are compromised boxes [02:51] They could be dialup accounts.. [02:51] Ah, yeah [02:52] I'm not up on my IP subnetting, but that isp says it owns 190.198/15 [02:53] they all seem to be owned by "CANTV Servicios, Venezuela" === aryo is now known as hana === aryo is now known as hana [03:27] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [03:27] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [03:28] yep, clone swarm [03:28] nalioth: you're fast [03:29] nah, i seen 'em coming [03:30] nalioth: still two of them hanging out in unregged [03:30] just didn't know where they were going [03:30] ah, with your staff-spidey-sense [03:32] Pici: might be worth becomming staff for [03:37] the only thing is that you have to use your 'staff spidey sense' to the benefit of the whole network (and not just #ubuntu-land) [03:37] i think that line "with great power comes great responsibility" is apt here [03:42] pity [03:46] Is there anyway to recover a registered IRC nick's password through the e-mail I registered the nick with? [03:47] sp0ro: yes, ask in #freenode, this channel is only for #*buntu* related issues. [03:47] Alright, sorry. The Wiki said you could ask for a hostname cloak here so I figured it might be related. Thanks :) [03:49] sp0ro: i can save you a trip [03:50] Ok, any info you need then? [03:50] sp0ro: your nick can't be recovered because you didn't give nickserv an email when you registered it [03:50] Oh [03:50] great [03:50] but if you come back in 6 days, we can release it to you for reregistration [03:50] unused nicks can be released after 60 days [03:51] heh alright then, time to play the guessing game and then register a new nick when I get bored :p [03:51] Ah, might be able to release it now then, let me check [03:51] sp0ro: in 6 days :) [03:51] Oh, heh. Thanks for the info :) [03:52] Woot [03:52] I remembered it :P [03:52] * Hobbsee kicks prozilla [03:53] Now, as for the hostname cloak, who would I contact for that to be done? [03:53] sp0ro: Are you an Ubuntu member? [03:54] Do you mean on the forums or ? [03:54] sp0ro: I mean a member, from your answer, I'm going to assume no. [03:55] I have no idea what you mean by "member", so yeah, I'll assume no. [03:55] sp0ro: either nalioth can help you with that, or you can ask in #freenode [03:55] Alright, thanks for the info. :) [04:08] sp0ro: did you want an Ubuntu cloak? [04:08] sp0ro: while you're identified, why not add an email to your account? [04:08] /msg nickserv help set email [04:09] /msg nickserv help set hide [04:09] I figured he'd ask in #freenode if you werent around [04:32] has LjL returned yet? === aryo is now known as hana [06:26] What is the proper channel for people looking for support of kde4 on kubuntu? [06:27] nixternal: ^? [06:27] ardchoille: #kde4-devel [06:28] stdin: for support? [06:28] really? [06:28] stdin: Ok, thanks [06:28] well there is no kde4 support only channel yet, and who better for support than the devs ;) [06:28] that is a toughy [06:29] tonyyarusso: it's not supported by Ubuntu [06:29] not at all [06:29] use at your own risk [06:29] nalioth: right [06:29] kde4-devel might give you a hand, someone in #kubuntu might give you a hand [06:29] what isn't supported by Ubuntu? [06:29] kde4 packages [06:29] they are supported by Kubuntu [06:30] nixternal: why does the kubuntu.org page say different? [06:30] because you are reading about pre-releases [06:30] we still support the packages [06:30] um, until 'official' release, they are all 'pre-releases' [06:30] we can't release a package or application and not support it unless it is a binary blog [06:30] s/blog/blob [06:31] binary blog, now that's an interesting idea... :p [06:31] heh [06:31] we just aren't excepting KDE 4 bugs just yet [06:31] unless of course you prove they are package bugs [06:31] and if you do, then it is stdin's fault :p [06:31] So support questions for kde4 on kubuntu are ok in #kubuntu? [06:32] nixternal: you did mean "accepting", right? [06:32] the packages are community supported, yes. but not many community members know much about it yet so the best place is #kde4-devel if no one knows [06:32] ya [06:32] where at on kubuntu.org does it say we aren't supporting KDE 4 stuff btw? I don't see it [06:32] stdin: Oh, and thank you for your work on the packages :) [06:33] I just run my "backport-kde4" script :p (now I need to go make a "backport-kde4" script) [06:33] hehe [06:34] I am about 1/2 way done with the official.....ermmm top-secret, can't spill the beans in here :) [06:34] I am getting good at using dch however :) [06:34] dch -e|-i [06:34] that is all I ever use with it [06:34] eg: dch --newversion "$(dpkg-parsechangelog|grep Version:|awk '{print $2}'|awk -Fppa '{print $1"ppa"$2+1}')" "Fix FTBFS:...";;debuild -S;dput kde4 ../*.changes [06:35] for ppaN->ppaN+1 [06:35] man, you are ballsy with that one, not even testing to make sure everything got installed :p [06:36] I can't, because it's amd64 and lpia that's failing [06:36] I test when i386 fails, but anything else is just fate [07:01] stdin: wtf? [07:01] stdin: whatever happened to the dch -i "Fix FTBFS"; debuild -S;dput kde4 ../*.changes [07:01] ? [07:02] Hobbsee: that adds ubuntu1 to the end for me, so I get "~ppa1ubuntu1" [07:02] oh, dodgy [07:02] stdin: you should provide a patch to make it understand what to do with ppa versions. [07:02] I did try -i first ;) [07:02] what's dch written in? [07:02] no idea [07:03] /usr/bin/debchange: perl script text executable [07:03] ah, there you go [07:03] I know no perl, at all [07:03] should be fudgable [08:45] edo: is there something we can help you with? [10:01] jussi01: Thanks. I sometimes forget about the factoids :( [10:01] :) [10:06] Hmmm, I wonder what the preferred way is. I often think it would be better if we encourage people to use graphical means to do things - even though the command line is _very_ useful, Ubuntu is about being easy to use - and this would help with this image for new people. [10:08] Well, I agree, it should be easy-to-use. But, some folks can get impatient and in the time it takes to launch adpet_manager and wait for it to be ready to use, I can sudo apt-get install something have have it almost done. [10:23] There's a wrong factoid [10:23] !virtualbox [10:23] VirtualBox is an x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubunut.com/community/VirtualBox [10:23] look at the spelling of the URL [10:23] "ubunut.com" [10:25] Arelis: thank you. we will ensure it is fixed :) [10:26] no problem :) [10:26] Hobbsee: good morning :) [10:26] Hobbsee: Can you correct the spelling in the url of the !virtualbox factoid? (ubunut.com) [10:27] heya! [10:27] !virtualbox [10:27] VirtualBox is an x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubunut.com/community/VirtualBox [10:28] !no virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [10:28] I'll remember that Hobbsee [10:28] !no virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [10:28] done [10:28] ty :) [10:29] ubotu: ping [10:29] pong [10:29] !no virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [10:29] I'll remember that Hobbsee [10:29] good bot [10:30] !virtualbox [10:30] virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available in !Gutsy as 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [10:31] Hobbsee: I hate to be pedantic but.... shouldnt that first "a" be "an"? [10:32] jussi01: last i checked, x is not a vowel? [10:32] or have i gotten confused? [10:32] Hobbsee: correct, BUT, its an exception to the rule iirc [10:32] x is not a vowel, true, but is it better to say " need a x-ray" or "I need an x-ray" ? [10:32] because it starts with a vowel like sound? [10:33] fwiw, I agree with jussi01 [10:33] oh, i thought y was the only exception [10:34] Hobbsee: Ive been out of the country a long time, I may be wrong... [10:34] jussi01: lp bug # is wrong, btw [10:34] Hobbsee: ? [10:34] in the patch [10:35] * jussi01 goes to look.... :( [10:36] don't worry, i'll fix it here [10:36] Hobbsee: thanks :D [10:45] cari_teman_FS: can we help you? [10:49] jussi01: you testd that, i take it? [10:58] Hobbsee: yes, persia has done, I havent a hardy system atm [10:59] ah right [10:59] * Hobbsee isn't aware of how to compile perl and such, so... [10:59] :) [11:02] * stdin hugs Hobbsee for closing 2 of his bugs in one foul swoop [11:02] :) [11:02] * Hobbsee closed all the u-r-e ones too [11:03] * Hobbsee also wrote a shell script to rsync the latest iso's of interest, off cdimage. [11:03] Hobbsee's been busy [11:03] yeah, i finally got motivated to do ubuntu stuff [11:05] stdin: and I've just closed one of yours [11:05] which one? [11:06] bug #180199 [11:06] Launchpad bug 180199 in meta-kde4 "Incorrect dependancy for kde4-amusements " [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180199 [11:07] yeah, but that's a bug I created, not one I solved :p [11:07] ;) [11:08] which reminds me to subscribe to bug mail for meta-kde4 [11:15] can we add something to nickspam that encourages people to set their nick in their client setup?there are just too many people who enter, then change nick straght away... [11:18] !nickspam [11:18] You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away " to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines [11:21] stdin: serial offender for the above ^ [11:22] * Hobbsee ponders fixing something else [11:22] Hobbsee: the flash plugin :D [11:22] pft [11:24] Hobbsee: do you know the current position on that? (or a bug number with info?) [11:24] oh wow, command-not-found doesn't bail on zsh [11:25] jussi01: erm, no. it's faily obvious in the list, though [11:25] Debian guys had it more or less fixed when I last heard anything [11:25] * jussi01 is sick of flash plugin queries.. [11:31] Can someone explain that to me? I mean isn't it simply as easy as having the package download the plugin from adobe? How bad is this flash problem? [11:31] ardchoille: the latest flash breaks konq [11:32] ardchoille: essentially yes, though [11:32] Ah, that explains it. I'd love to learn how to stop konq from asking me to install flash [11:32] stop using konq. easy solved. [11:32] hehe [11:33] hmmm, can someone hilight me using my name not as the first word? [11:33] hello jussi01 [11:34] jpatrick: thank you! [11:34] ardchoille: details: lastest Flash uses XEmbed, which Konqueror does not support (kdelibs + kdebase patch needed) [11:34] jpatrick: Oh, so it's not as simple as I thought. [11:34] jpatrick: thanks [11:34] jussi01, ardchoille: you're welcome [12:19] Well, got flash working in konqueror [12:19] Oops, wrong window. sorry [12:19] PurpZeY called the ops in #ubuntu (FLOOD) [15:33] crdlb: are you around at all please. [15:49] guys - persistant minor flooder / troll d0berman [15:49] in #ubuntu [15:49] nothing major but getting tedious [15:51] it's about to get ugly [15:51] assistance please [15:53] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (d0) [15:53] ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu (d0berman flooding/spamming/trolling in #ubuntu) [15:54] Seveas: has delt with, thank you === nalioth__ is now known as nalioth [17:04] potential issue Nahztu in #ubuntu [17:04] heads up [17:05] * Tm_T hides [17:05] oh, up, not down [17:06] chicken! [17:06] uh, I mean [17:06] duck! [17:06] assistance please, it's getting a little messy in #ubuntu [17:08] ikonia: I'm on it [17:09] ta [17:10] what's it called when you have irc on one machine, then log into that whenever you need [17:10] from say a laptop [17:10] screen [17:10] ? [17:10] PriceChild: proxy/bouncer, or, irssi+screen [17:10] PriceChild: can you expand on that a tad [17:10] I like my xchat though :) [17:11] PriceChild: I've been working on options for an X version of screen for ages [17:11] and I remember setting something up to play with a little while ago that let me connect my xchat to it [17:11] the only way I've managed to do it was a really ugly setup [17:11] PriceChild: irssi as proxy [17:13] * PriceChild tries out irssi-proxy [17:14] humm, wasn't this "debian" fellow one of those regular bypass trolls? [17:15] no idea [17:16] anyway, I need to cook and eat, so I'm off a bit, sorry :/ -> [17:20] now I'm really gone -> [17:23] 1922.41 < chuy_> What I want, is to remount the sda1 (Vagina Gentium), and then properly mount the 70 or so GB partician that cannot be found. [17:23] Tm_T, keeps connecting then disconnecting me :/ [17:23] * PriceChild wonders why he sees ipv6 addresses [17:23] (why on earth I did spot that while trying to cook) [17:23] Tm_T, that was on yesterday [17:23] Tm_T, it seems slightly legit to piracy [17:24] PriceChild: no idea what you're talking about [17:24] anyway, back cooking myself -> [17:24] Tm_T, irssi proxy 8-) [17:35] Tm_T: when did chuy_ say that [17:35] Tm_T: was that today [17:36] Hi there all [17:38] ikonia: was ~15 min ago [17:38] Tm_T: I believe this is a scam, he's been in 2 days trying to solve this problem (it's been solved multiple times for him) it looks like an excuse to keep saying "vagina" [17:40] anyway, I'm eating now [17:40] also, seems like I'm veeery busy all this night ;( [17:55] yay that's working... [17:55] ns info pricechi1d === nalioth_ is now known as nalioth [18:24] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (as) [18:33] astro76 called the ops in #ubuntu (tuxice) [19:04] In ubotu, ed_ said: What is the universe repository for? [19:04] !bot > ed_ [19:06] In ubotu, ed_ said: What is beryl? [19:06] * Pici facepalms [19:22] znc looks cool [19:22] Oh, are you here for good now? [19:24] PriceChild: are you using znc as way of connecting/controlling remove X11 apps ? [19:24] ooh I see it's an irc tool [19:24] not what I thought [19:25] Pici, i just had to reboot because i told my friend that the little smartmedia disk they had would fit in my laptop, but it didn't [19:25] Pici, and only had metal things, so turned it all off and battery out then fished it back out [19:29] ikonia, it seems to work quite well... if I run an irssi connected to it logging for me. [19:29] LjL, might want to set guard on too [19:35] PriceChild: it's not the tool I thought it was, but it looks interesting [19:36] It seems quite cool, was easier to set up than irssiproxy which I haven't completely fixed up yet. [19:36] Need to decide about hte machine first though [19:38] PriceChild: I'm not quite catching how different the solution is to say irssi and screen [19:39] PriceChild: quick summary, is there something obvious I'm missing [19:39] (I'm just reading on sourceforge) [19:40] i guess its slightly simpler just using proxy [19:40] hmm there is one difference [19:40] log into znc and it gives you a buffer [19:40] which i like [19:40] *just using irssi [19:40] ok, so the buffer is probably bigger than irssi nativly [19:41] oh sorry i misread you earlier [19:41] ooh [19:41] i would prefer to keep using xchat [19:41] rather than irssi + screen [19:41] PriceChild: yup, that bit I understand but how are you using xchat through znc [19:42] (I also miss-read you before I assumed you where using irssi+znc AS the solution you wanted) [19:42] irssiproxy + screen is good though, i'm sure there must be something letting you have a buffer in it [19:42] znc just acts as an irc server which you can connect xchat to [19:42] and then znc connect to the real irc server [19:42] ok, I see the difference, thank you [19:42] I wasn't quite getting that from the inital lines in the docs [19:48] keem an eye on tuxice in various channels [19:48] keep even - now missing from #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic [19:49] tuxick? [19:50] tuxice it was [19:50] well, I can see a tuxick in #kubuntu [19:51] ompaul, was talking with him yesterday [19:51] odd fellow [19:52] PriceChild, I just banned him from both locations [19:52] tried to convince me to make him an admin on ubuntuforums.org because he had experience on other forums [19:52] hah [19:52] I am gone cooking [19:52] obviously not enough experience to work out i'm a mod not an admin [19:55] tuxice is incoming [19:55] * crdlb thinks floodbot2 is malfunctioning [19:56] hi i need to state a case [19:56] can someone give me the guidlines [19:56] ? [19:56] !guidelines [19:56] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [19:56] !guidelines [19:57] tuxice, read the message ubotu has already given [19:57] oh [19:57] crdlb, hmm.... i forget hte command i think i need to use.... [19:58] gah nal's away [19:59] LjL, ping [19:59] 3 and 1 are in emergency mode :. [20:00] tuxice, can I help? [20:00] Hello all [20:01] What's going on with the flood bots in #ubuntu ? [20:01] im just reading the guidelines [20:01] Cpudan80, we are aware and just getting things sorted now. [20:02] Oh ok [20:02]