[11:55] hi [14:01] Hiyas all [15:46] * genii-around makes coffee === bregma_ is now known as bregma [16:10] * BobJonkman craves a coffee from genii-around [16:12] * genii-around slides BobJonkman a very tasty and strongly brewed coffee, just cooled off enough to be perfect for drinking [16:12] * BobJonkman adulterates genii-around's excellent coffee by adding a dollop of cream [16:12] :) [16:13] "a dollop of cream" - what else is measured in dollops? [16:14] Not sure.. but there are some interesting ways to measure stuff. My grandma always says like: 3 glugs of molasses for recipes, etc [16:15] Dollops are also for mud and fat men: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/dollop [16:15] Heh [16:16] There's also "jiggers" [16:16] distinct from "chiggers" [16:17] Wouldn't want to get those two mixed up [16:18] * genii-around contemplates hogsheads and other quaint systems [16:18] Sadly, http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/jigger doesn't have a definition as a unit of measure. [16:18] As in "a jigger of rum" [16:19] Probably some nautical cup size... [16:19] I can see why "hogshead" fell out of favour. Any time you try to measure something it would just pour out the eyes and nostrils [16:20] * BobJonkman should be getting back to work now [16:20] * BluesKaj tries to find documentation or a tutorial for a way in thru the bell pvr ethernet port [16:21] BluesKaj: Looking to get an Internet connection through your satellite from the PVR ethernet? [16:21] jigger=1.5 ounces of liquor [16:22] * BobJonkman would hire BluesKaj for genii-around's coffee bar in a jiffy [16:23] BluesKaj: Is it the pve plus? [16:23] *pvr [16:23] BobJonkman, I have a bell 9242 and would like to addit to the home network , TiVo style ..there's a site that promotes python scripts for running TiVos on a home network , but I can't find the equivalent for the Bell pvr [16:24] So you just want to control the PVR or view the contents. [16:25] Sadly, I have no experience with either Bell or PVRs [16:26] It would be interesting to get an Internet connection using the PVR as a router to the satellite connection, though [16:26] BobJonkman, yes, but mostly I'd like to be able to add or copy content back and forth between the networked pcs and the pvr ..but due to encryption I somehow doubt that's even feasable [16:26] Likely, your PVR is locked up, and Bell holds the keys. [16:26] I wonder if it uses snmp [16:28] BobJonkman, genii-around , I haven't begun my research in ernest yet , but the lack of info even in google and the digitalhome sitr is discouraging so far [16:29] I used to use a 9200 , but got this 9242 with remote access capability , as a swap out due to the change over from MPEG2 to MPEG4 codec/compression that Bell is switching to . [16:41] I have a SD TiVo that i used on our home network, it was neat to be able copy content down loaded off the internet to the TiVo. Now I just use a home pc media server instaed , but it would be nice to have option copy files to pc from the pvr in case we run out of room on the HDD. [17:39] BluesKaj: You could always isolate it from the internet but hooking it to a router that gives it an IP but doesn't go to internet, then poke at it a bit with like nmap to see what ports are open on the thing. [17:47] genii-around, yeah I was thinking that too, just need an another ethernet cable to connect it up [17:51] BluesKaj: It must use some kind of method to talk to Bells servers for the remotepvr stuff to work [17:53] I wonder if you hooked it to a box with webserver and dhcp server, what the webserver access logs would look like [17:56] hey guys [17:57] so you know I was saying I had an issue with screen sessions [17:57] if you'll forgive me just talking out loud [17:57] I did a reinstall, running 11.10 server now [17:57] genii-around, what method should I use to connect the pvr to my other box ? [17:57] I am still seeing the same issue [17:58] I have a running screen session, and when I open a new term inside it, I end up at, willwh@web:(unreachable)/$ [17:58] if I do an ls though, I am in my /home/willwh [17:58] which is really odd.. [17:59] I am not sure how to try to troubleshoot this, or get some help [17:59] anyone have any ideas? [18:01] BluesKaj: If you have a webserver/dhcp server on said box and want to probe it? Probably a crossover cable [18:05] Work, back in a while [18:07] genii-around, no webserver or dhcp server on the other box..it's strictly a kubuntu box with static IP in network interfaces and dns nameserver IPs in resolv.conf , no NM [18:09] most of the pvrs are out there are really locked down [18:09] I have a pace pvr (shaw) - everything disabled 'cept for the sata port :( [18:09] usb/cat5/etc - all dead :/ [18:09] probably be better with a capture card [18:10] and run mythtv [18:14] willwh, the bell pvr has an ethernet port for remote accessing the record and guide settiings , but so far I see nothing about copying anyprogramming toa pc via ahome network setup as backup or overflow from the pvr hdd [18:16] HD capture cards are rare birds indeed [18:21] mythtv is unecessary , mencoder can copy files if one uses the right strings [18:24] willwh, I fear that the content is encrypted by a method that's unavailble/proprietary anyway [18:24] most likely yes [18:24] any ideas on my issue above BluesKaj ? [18:25] willwh, sorry i don't understand it ...are you opening a terminal inside a folder or directly from the menu ? [18:26] well, no, I ssh to my server [18:26] where I have irssi running in screen [18:26] inside a screen session, you can do, ctrl + a, c, to open a new term inside the screen session [18:27] now - the weird thing is - it doesn't happen after starting a fresh screen session [18:27] just after some time [18:27] it seems to puke [18:27] I cannot for the life of me, understand it :\ [18:29] willwh, , why not just open another prompt with ctrl+alt+F2 or 3 , or is this not suitable? [18:29] well - I'm logging in to a remote box [18:30] it's just that my irssi logging dies after a while too [18:30] over the 'net or Lan ? [18:30] both [18:31] sorry, no experience with internet ssh , only lan [18:35] brb [18:48] willwh: I've had the same problem. Haven't had the time to figure out what's going on, though. [18:48] Let me know if you find a fix... [18:49] dscassel: I don't even know where to start tbh [18:49] really annoying though! [18:49] Yeah. :/ [18:50] looks like a daemon is timing out or something [18:50] i.e. I am not sure how I even bug report it [18:50] or where to start digging [18:50] so frustrating [18:50] you guys still use network manager ? [18:50] I'd switch to Quassel, but I can't find a way to turn off join, parts, quits, etc. [18:50] BluesKaj: Yup. [18:50] I wouldn't [18:50] I have far too many custom scripts for irssi [18:50] and I can't be arsed rewriting ;) [18:52] willwh, are you irssi'd on the remote machine? sounds dumb I know but I have to ask [18:53] BluesKaj: yup, irrsi runs in a screen session on the remote machine [18:54] what exactly is a screen session ? [18:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen [18:56] :] [18:56] back shortly [22:06] dscassel: around? [22:08] http://pastie.org/2911278 [22:08] interestingly, look at the path it's supposed to be at, ~willwh/public_html/play/index.php [22:08] how the france did willwh get stuffed in there === starcraft is now known as starcraftman