[00:07] (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/p8kwW2fC.png [00:07] @Javacookies [try searching for Futify in the forums … it's a premium-only spotify app that work …], Thanks for the tip, it works like a charm [00:07] Thanks for your answers. I hope some developer will find the proposal interesting (I m far to be able to do so 😢) [00:19] WenJie Lin was added by: WenJie Lin [01:38] @Stereofont [They started arriving a couple of days ago. But still early], im really excited :) [01:41] @dohbee [sharing kernel between android and ut doesn't work great (we disable selinux and …], i think i saw something about twrp and the ota updates once, somethig about the arxhive format [01:54] perhaps someone can try continuing the work on MultiROM as I think it was abandoned now? … that one worked well on my Nexus5 and OTA updates were working as well. You can also access android folder on UT and vice versa if you mount them. [02:51] ah, i guess they patched that one on the nexus 5 [03:15] @Fuseteam [Looks like you'd the perfect guy to test the installer xD], Wish I have more time to [04:41] @mateosalta [ah, i guess they patched that one on the nexus 5], I think it was working on OPO too … the developer suppprted UT and Sailfish back in the days....just needs to update the image servers now to ubports [05:54] @RealDanct12 does mobile data works on lavendar? [06:10] guys i use moto z (griffin) and flashed all the kernels and stuff and its just stuck at boot [06:10] i tried to connect to my pc and it does recognize as ubuntu touch [06:10] any fix ? or should i wait like a hour at boot ? [06:42] MADELINE Lajoie was added by: MADELINE Lajoie [07:13] @Javacookies [perhaps someone can try continuing the work on MultiROM as I think it was abando …], Worked fine on nexus 7 (deb,), too. 👍 [07:14] multirom sure would be nice [07:57] LOVISA Eija was added by: LOVISA Eija [08:03] Can anybody tell me a bit more about the functionality of Anbox? Is it usable enough to run Android apps? [08:29] @BlackHat17 [Can anybody tell me a bit more about the functionality of Anbox? Is it usable en …], Its early alpha, so only basic apps without too much hardware interaction works. Also powermanagement is kinda not existing, everything will happily run in the background and drain your battery ;) [08:32] @Flohack [Its early alpha, so only basic apps without too much hardware interaction works. …], Can't I close the apps? How much drain will there be? [08:32] I need at least two Android apps actually. [08:33] @BlackHat17 [Can't I close the apps? How much drain will there be?], Of course but you will forget and then end up with empty battery. I am just saying what I think you should probably try yourself [08:33] The container is also based on an old Android version so many Apps are simply not working there anymore. I guess its 5.1 [08:33] @Flohack [The container is also based on an old Android version so many Apps are simply no …], Indeed, that won't work for most apps. [08:34] The planet has billions of people and yet nobody wants to work on it, what can I say [08:35] @Flohack [The planet has billions of people and yet nobody wants to work on it, what can I …], I noob [08:35] Lol [08:35] @Flohack [The planet has billions of people and yet nobody wants to work on it, what can I …], Yes, that's a pity. [08:35] I'm a ok buildbot but noob dev [08:36] Problem is also motivation, the good developers are also nerds and dont understand obviously why they would like to run an Android container like this on their phones [08:36] We are in a very dark corner of IT worls [08:36] @Flohack [Problem is also motivation, the good developers are also nerds and dont understa …], Lol [08:36] [Edit] We are in a very dark corner of IT world [08:37] Yeah its a pity, and also Upstream Anbox devs ignore us. They rather only focus on desktop Anbox [08:39] @Flohack [Yeah its a pity, and also Upstream Anbox devs ignore us. They rather only focus …], Can't you run the same version of Anbox on UT as is used on desktop? [08:39] @BlackHat17 [Can't you run the same version of Anbox on UT as is used on desktop?], Well it wont have any hardware interaction that we are abstracting from Android. So only network and playback of sound will work. No camera, location, sensors etc [09:03] Oma Narvaez was added by: Oma Narvaez [09:22] @Flohack [Well it wont have any hardware interaction that we are abstracting from Android. …], Although for some things that might be enough and be an improvement. Can there be two versions for the user to decide? [09:22] @Flohack [Well it wont have any hardware interaction that we are abstracting from Android. …], That may be a limitation some users needing a few Android apps would accept. But yes I understand your point it is not good for others (the majority) [09:23] OK, I see @Danfro beat me to it, that was my question... [09:24] personally, the few apps I look to that don't have a good UT option would be ones I would start and use only a few minutes each day. Sound and network would be good, other hardware features of the phone not needed. But not interested in trying to have them run in the background. [09:25] Once they are not focused, happy to have them "killed" [09:25] @rikshaw [That may be a limitation some users needing a few Android apps would accept. But …], Who knows what the majority is. I think only a few people do actually use Anbox. [09:26] @rikshaw [OK, I see @Danfro beat me to it, that was my question...], 😎 [09:33] @xxpsnguy [guys i use moto z (griffin) and flashed all the kernels and stuff and its just s …], If you want to port that device, best to start in @Halium group [09:34] @BlackHat17 [Can't I close the apps? How much drain will there be?], Expect two hours maximum 🤡 [09:37] @rikshaw [personally, the few apps I look to that don't have a good UT option would be one …], Yes. Paying for parking, instead of using coins. Nothing fancy and on for a couple of minutes [09:46] @mateosalta [Wish I have more time to], same [09:50] @Flohack [Yeah its a pity, and also Upstream Anbox devs ignore us. They rather only focus …], i wouldn't say "ignore" the desktop side hasn't seen much development either [09:58] @Flohack [Yeah its a pity, and also Upstream Anbox devs ignore us. They rather only focus …], [Edit] i wouldn't say "upstream ignores us" the desktop side hasn't seen much development either [10:04] shubhnaik was added by: shubhnaik [10:09] Xperia X has 3 GB of RAM but it seems to still run out of memory and kill apps quite often. Sometimes it feels like it's even worse than Nexus 5 [10:10] @Flohack [Yeah its a pity, and also Upstream Anbox devs ignore us. They rather only focus …], [Edit] i wouldn't say "upstream ignores us" the desktop side hasn't seen much development either and well i've seen the opposite :p [10:11] eh? what you do? [10:13] I usually just have Pesbuk and TELEPorts open and sometimes when I open morph or dekko, TELEports is killed and worse is a reboot LOL [10:14] I wonder if the aggressiveness of OOM killer is decreased when in windowed mode because it seems that I can open more apps on Nexus 5 in desktop mode. [10:15] to be fair, I hate that my HTC 10 that has 4GB also kills my current app when I just try to switch to another and back 😅 [10:28] yeah in desktop mode apps aren't suspended in the background [10:33] @thankchu [Is there a version of. Ubuntu touch for Oneplus 5t?], @thankchu did you try this? Did you face any issues. I'm planning to test and build for my own phone in near future [10:33] I was planning on filing a feature request for "silencing notifs but not calls" but then i snooped around in setting and found you can silence notifs while letting them appear in notif list LOL [10:34] [Edit] I was planning on filing a feature request for "silencing notifs but not calls" but then i snooped around in setting and found you can silence notifs while still letting them appear in notif list LOL [10:35] @Fuseteam [yeah in desktop mode apps aren't suspended in the background], yeah, I know that but I guess OOM killer targets suspended apps so it's not too active in windowed mode [10:35] Wait they get killed in windows mode? [10:36] [Edit] Wait they get killed in windowed mode? [10:38] I think they do but a lot less often? hmmm....let me try later on my Nexus 5...can;t remember exactly if apps are killed or Lomiri just crashes or totally reboots 😅 [10:42] In this scenario if lomiri crashed its the oom killer is perpetrator [11:44] How to take screenshot on ub ? [11:45] @nandanrmenon [How to take screenshot on ub ?], press volume up and volume down [11:46] @nandanrmenon [How to take screenshot on ub ?], Press volume up+down. Or hold power and select screenshot at the menu. [11:46] or long press power button [11:46] and there's screenshot option in menu [11:46] Let me see [11:46] Haha, looks like we got it covered now. 😀 [11:47] Is teleports the only telegram client? [11:47] not [11:47] I use `mywebtelegram` [11:48] (Photo, 1080x2160) https://irc.ubports.com/Q97KEMtL.png [11:48] @nandanrmenon [Is teleports the only telegram client?], Native client yes. Some webtelegram apps too available. [11:49] Ohk [12:06] Hey hey, this is an odd one--could someone please dump the perm for /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb2 [12:06] also, is there anyone here who worked on mir-android-platform? [12:15] @Danfro [Haha, looks like we got it covered now. 😀], or you can connect a keyboard and press the print screen button or press the volune keys simultaneously 😂 [12:18] @Javacookies [or you can connect a keyboard and press the print screen button or press the vol …], Yeah! Cool idea. I didn't think of that. 😎 [13:07] itsme2005new was added by: itsme2005new [13:25] mad_dev yes there are devs who worked on the mir-android-platform like universalsuperbox and mariogrip [14:00] Is is possible to run mainline kernel or is it limited to respective android base of halium? [14:01] [Edit] Is it possible to run mainline kernel or is it limited to respective android base of halium? [14:04] it is possible, but generally on android phones most hardware won't be functional at the current time [14:04] a nice matrix of what would work can be found on postmarket os's website [14:05] Okay.. Thanks [14:50] https://t.me/ubports_news [14:50] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/KNgTi55z.webp [15:06] Mark S was added by: Mark S [15:06] welcome mark [15:08] thanks! I am wondering if any version of the Nexus 5 will work [15:09] if you already own a nexus 5, i believe the installer can easily tell you that [15:11] I have a Nexus 5X - I will try the installer. Thanks! [15:11] ohw the 5x :c [15:12] the 5x isn't supported no, that's a completely different device from the nexus 5 [15:13] ah. that's what I was wondering since I only say support for 5 without any variants. [15:15] https://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Unlocked-4-95true-Quadcore-Android/dp/B00H7PXOI6 [15:15] will that work? [15:16] probably yes [15:17] I will buy a used phone to experiment on [15:24] thank you to all those that are contributing to this project. I think it's awesome. I will be supporting you. [15:51] not lucky, nexus 5x is not supported [15:54] 👍 [16:30] jk_bharti was added by: jk_bharti [16:42] @Mark S [ah. that's what I was wondering since I only say support for 5 without any varia …], Its not a variant, its a totally different device [16:46] yes I understand. Thanks for the guidance. I bought a used Nexus 5 to play with. [16:54] Сергей was added by: Сергей [16:59] Ethan Hunt was added by: Ethan Hunt [17:02] Hi, i have honor 5x how can i install ububtu touch in it. [17:02] @Ethan Hunt [Hi, i have honor 5x how can i install ububtu touch in it.], U can't [17:03] Yes, i know that's why I'm asking [17:03] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Hid639yP.webp [17:04] @Ethan Hunt [Yes, i know that's why I'm asking], Buy a supported phone [17:05] Or maybe port it yourself. 20,000% more difficult though… [17:08] Can someone provide installation file for honor 5x [17:08] @Ethan Hunt [Can someone provide installation file for honor 5x], No [17:09] U have to buy a supported phone [17:09] @Ethan Hunt [Can someone provide installation file for honor 5x], There are none [17:11] Hmm. That is an Android 5 device. Huawei, so presumably a locked bootloader [17:37] @Ethan Hunt [Can someone provide installation file for honor 5x], there is no installation file, you'll have to create by following docs.halium.org [17:52] Can you provide installation file for honor 5x [17:53] @Ethan Hunt [Can you provide installation file for honor 5x], They do not exist. [17:53] @Ethan Hunt [Can you provide installation file for honor 5x], Impossible [17:53] @Ethan Hunt [Can you provide installation file for honor 5x], Read the above message [18:10] it's almost like they don't understand english 💭 [18:19] maybe maybe [18:42] the website doesn't make it very clear which versions/variants/models will work. It just says "Nexus 5" but doesn't mention anything about "5X" so some will be left with questions (like I was) about whether or not the X would work. Only after coming here did I learn that the X is completely different. If there was a table showing popular d [18:42] evices/models I bet the community would be happy to contribute to it and that way you won't have as many people joining here asking the same questions. [18:42] people are already posting their successes/failures in this channel, right? [18:43] you can fix and contribute to the device list and it's description: https://gitlab.com/ubports/infrastructure/devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [18:45] @Mark S [the website doesn't make it very clear which versions/variants/models will work. …], The installer has a fat warning that 5x is not compatible, but yes if you like we insert a note. In general I think I would get suspicious since with modern it equipment we should know that every letter counts [18:45] Maybe we should have a not supported section [18:45] @amyosx [Maybe we should have a not supported section], no need [18:46] it's a waste of space and time [18:46] Like all huaweis [18:46] @RealDanct12 [it's a waste of space and time], OK [18:46] just don't list that device there [18:46] yet people don't read [18:46] Brandon Urban was added by: Brandon Urban [18:49] we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Nexus 5X wouldn't. So if a compatibility table were to be created, then it can answer the questions quickly. [18:50] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], not talking about you, was referring to other people asking to install X on a device that isn't supported [18:52] @RealDanct12 can you please confirm if mobile data works on lavendar? [18:52] @ItsMeShouko [@RealDanct12 can you please confirm if mobile data works on lavendar?], need to put a sim card to the phone [18:53] a bit too lazy to do that today thou [18:53] Oh, let me know if you do so :) [18:53] but i believe it doesn't work as there's no new commit to hybris-patches to add the missing deps [19:13] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], it's really just a different device, different cpu, different everything [19:13] https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7556&idPhone2=5705 [19:14] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], [Edit] it's really just a different device, different cpu, different release date, different android version [19:15] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], [Edit] it's really just a different device; different cpu, different release date, different android version [19:15] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], [Edit] it's really just a different device; different cpu, different release date, different android version … https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7556&idPhone2=5705 [19:16] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], [Edit] it's really just a different device; different chipset, different release date, different android version … https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7556&idPhone2=5705 [19:16] oscar JOLEEN was added by: oscar JOLEEN [19:18] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], [Edit] it's really just a different device; different chipset, different release date, different android version etc … https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7556&idPhone2=5705 [19:24] Laser9un was added by: Laser9un [19:28] Carbonneau bech was added by: Carbonneau bech [19:32] The Morph browser doesn't keep passwords, does it ? [19:32] @RealDanct12 [but i believe it doesn't work as there's no new commit to hybris-patches to add …], do you know what is missing? [19:33] it's mentioned in some halium chat [19:42] BT keyboard question: i have a fairly simple BT keyboard. works fine so far, but it doesnt have a Right CTRL button. how do i type special characters with it in UT? [19:44] is it possible to remap it to Left CTRL somewhere? [19:47] @coding_hedgehog [The Morph browser doesn't keep passwords, does it ?], nope. but there are some password apps in the Open Store [19:54] @YougoChats [BT keyboard question: i have a fairly simple BT keyboard. works fine so far, but …], You mean AltGr? [19:56] it has AltGr, and indeed /some/ special chars that are mapped to that, but by far not all [19:56] Vitek NewPort was added by: Vitek NewPort [19:57] @YougoChats [it has AltGr, and indeed /some/ special chars that are mapped to that, but by fa …], Well yes, only so many keys on a board. What would right Ctrl get you? [19:58] @dohbee [You mean AltGr?], i'll be darned. AltGr doubles as Right CTRL as well [19:58] TIL [19:59] Serhio_Conditioners was added by: Serhio_Conditioners [20:00] @dohbee [Well yes, only so many keys on a board. What would right Ctrl get you?], well some keys have the special chars on the lower right corner, like E has é with AltGr, but to reach ë, i have to AltGr+Shift+' ; E [20:01] Hello. Dooge S40 - ubuntuphon compatible or not? [20:03] @YougoChats [TIL], [SOLVED] [20:04] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], Its like if you buy a Samsung S10 its not the same as S220 [20:04] @Mark S [we do read. But we don't know the technical reasons why a Nexus 5 works but a Ne …], [Edit] Its like if you buy a Samsung S10 its not the same as S20 [20:04] With mobile phones every letter counts. Why you would think a N5x is the same or similar to N5 ? If you install any ROM for Android, you also need to use that specific ROM for that device [20:05] YOu cannot install N5 ROM on N5x [20:05] And we mention the codenames I think, if not, we could do it. Latest with having the device codename a big bell should ring: "Do I have the device with the right codename?" [20:06] @Serhio_Conditioners [Hello. Dooge S40 - ubuntuphon compatible or not?], No [20:06] (Photo, 246x67) https://irc.ubports.com/NLmQ2LpA.png What more than thbis can we do? [20:40] @Flohack [], The `Comment` column is empty. Perhaps this could be used for commonly confused devices, such as the `5X`. [20:57] @imraniqbal [The Comment column is empty. Perhaps this could be used for commonly confused d …], Yeah, that wouldn't hurt for sure [22:03] hi guys, perhaps you already spoke about it, but i would like to find some hint about the "open with" behavior, i don't find any link on "how to" [22:06] @tr4ck3ur [hi guys, perhaps you already spoke about it, but i would like to find some hint …], http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/guides/contenthub.html [22:07] Content Hub is the magic keyword here. 😊 [22:07] oh ok, let me check if i find my way, thanks btw ;) [22:07] Have fun. 👍 [22:13] hum, sure, it seems relevent, thanks Danfro, i will give a try [22:18] just a question, why isn't be used on UTmedia app for video Nexus 5 device ? [22:18] is there any blocking point ? [22:25] @tr4ck3ur [is there any blocking point ?], I remember some issue about it being an html app, but I don't remember nothing more... @nfsprodriver do you remember more about this? [22:28] hum, ok, that may be a sufficent reason. may be a work to port to "clickable" btw [22:28] ok, thanks for the light [22:41] Good night. [22:42] How install google meet web browser? [22:43] Oo [22:43] in same kind of question, is there any app that open any file with a standard text editor ? ok, terminal will fit. [22:43] Web app [22:49] Paulo pandryx, sorry, i don't get your point. [22:55] Is it possible to install web video conference apps? [22:57] oh yes, btw we want this kind of feature [22:57] i see there is gstreamer [22:58] and many people are able to do it from a raspberry [22:58] wihtout the sound btw [22:59] without* [23:00] Paulo ? do you check on your side to build a solution for it ? [23:08] xaviergm was added by: xaviergm [23:10] Hi guys! I have a couple of old devices that would like to try Linux on. They are not on the supported list but I am open to experiment with them... But before, does the installation tool provide any way to backup the stock roms and boot files that come with the phones/tablets? They are old and bad enough that there are no working archiv [23:10] es out there anymore. TIA. [23:28] Gabri79 was added by: Gabri79