| === spiv_ is now known as spiv | |
| [00:35] <michaelh1> Speaking of me, | |
| [00:36] <michaelh1> is staging up at the moment? The last entry on successful-updates is from four hours ago | |
| [00:39] <lifeless> michaelh1: see my question to spm just before the reference to you :P | |
| [00:40] <michaelh1> Thanks. | |
| [00:40] * spm quickly unignores lifeless, reads, adds the ognore back and crawls into a depper hole. | |
| [00:40] <michaelh1> A different question: is there a way to edit and/or delete bug messages in LP? If not, can I edit them through the API? | |
| [00:40] <lifeless> ognore eh? | |
| [00:40] <spm> and adds extra typos for maximal confusions | |
| [00:40] <lifeless> michaelh1: no | |
| [00:41] <lifeless> michaelh1: they can be hidden I believe, in extremis | |
| [00:41] <michaelh1> No to both the UI and the API? | |
| [00:41] <lifeless> and the DB | |
| [00:41] <spm> edited for super awesomely special cases as well; but *really* needs to be special. | |
| [00:42] <spm> wich is another way of saying I can probably count on one hand the numbers of times it's been done. | |
| [00:42] <michaelh1> spm: nope, I don't count for that. We're using messages to add meta data to a bug. The problem is when the meta data is wrong... tags are inappropriate. | |
| [00:43] <wgrant> Why are tags inappropriate? | |
| [00:43] <michaelh1> wgrant: we're using tickets to also track the upstream status of a bzr revision | |
| [00:44] <michaelh1> wgrant: the revisions are fully qualified as in lp:gcc-linaro/4.5,revno=1234 and there are up to 20 entries per bug | |
| [00:44] <wgrant> michaelh1: You could keep them in the description. | |
| [00:45] <michaelh1> wgrant: I'd like to have a timestamp and author that is easy to review. Descriptions not a bad idea though... | |
| [00:51] <lifeless> michaelh1: why are tags inappropriate? | |
| [00:51] <michaelh1> lifeless: see the reply to wgrant above | |
| [00:51] <lifeless> michaelh1: I asked this before and you linked to a wiki page which didn't help me understand your design constraints or needs at all | |
| [00:52] <lifeless> so, I'm open to the idea of building a generic lookaside store, but I want the use cases pinned down very carefully | |
| [00:53] <lifeless> since there are so many ways such a thing could go wrong | |
| [00:58] <michaelh1> lifeless: yip. I'll try and describe it better over the next few weeks | |
| [01:05] <lifeless> michaelh1: some specifics - please look at https://dev.launchpad.net/ArchitectureGuide for my big picture concerns | |
| [01:05] <lifeless> michaelh1: and for this thing - do we need: | |
| [01:06] <lifeless> - search facilities (e.g. metadata values, modifiers, modification times) | |
| [01:06] <lifeless> - logs/journalling | |
| [01:06] <lifeless> - display UI in web pages | |
| [01:06] <lifeless> - would this be better served by specific integration-information e.g. 'patches to forward upstream'. | |
| [01:16] <poolie> gary_poster: you could link that lep from the relevant bug | |
| [01:16] <poolie> hi lifeless | |
| [01:16] <lifeless> hi poolie | |
| [01:17] <gary_poster> poolie, I'm trying to link all sub-bugs to LEP, but yeah, you are right, there is that big one, I forgot, thanks | |
| [01:17] <gary_poster> Currently fighting moin syntax though :-P | |
| [01:18] <lifeless> spm: so, in all seriousness - what is the status of staging | |
| [01:18] <spm> gah. sorry distracted. looking... | |
| [01:19] * lifeless offers spm some eye for the eyeballs | |
| [01:19] <spm> it's building an importd atm; so "soon". I'd suggest counted in smller minutes. maybe 15-30? | |
| [01:20] <lifeless> gary_poster: oh you're still around | |
| [01:21] <lifeless> excellent. I need help. | |
| [01:21] <gary_poster> :-P | |
| [01:21] <lifeless> can you do voice? just so that I can have the code full screen | |
| [01:21] <gary_poster> I'm here because I didn't have time to get the stuff I needed to get done today, done | |
| [01:21] <lifeless> L< | |
| [01:21] <lifeless> :< | |
| [01:21] <gary_poster> :-) | |
| [01:21] <lifeless> Let me sketch my issue, and you can decide if mercy is appropriate | |
| [01:21] <lifeless> I have a patch, lp:~lifeless/launchpad/oops | |
| [01:21] <gary_poster> ok looking | |
| [01:22] <lifeless> which replaces the request_statements list with a Timeline object | |
| [01:22] <lifeless> its failing one test. xx-opstats.txt line 186 | |
| [01:22] <gary_poster> and trunk doesn't, I assume? | |
| [01:23] <lifeless> right | |
| [01:23] <gary_poster> ok | |
| [01:23] <lifeless> I've thrown a bunch of print statements at timeout and soft timeout setting code | |
| [01:23] <lifeless> and patched SoftTimeoutView in an attempt to understand it | |
| [01:23] <lifeless> but I'm getting less clue not more | |
| [01:24] <lifeless> http://pastebin.com/xBnLuiPR has my 'wth' edits | |
| [01:24] <lifeless> One of the things confusing me is that AFAICT the test should *never have passed* | |
| [01:24] <lifeless> the page it requests does not DB access, and only DB access can set a hard timeout | |
| [01:24] <gary_poster> heh, one of those | |
| [01:25] <lifeless> I added DB access in, but that didn't work | |
| [01:25] <lifeless> setting the soft time out to 200ms seems to work | |
| [01:25] <lifeless> 20 doesn't reliably | |
| [01:25] <gary_poster> have to get boys out of bath, but back in a bit | |
| [01:25] <lifeless> I'd be ok with a 'does not blow up in the next devs face' tweak | |
| [01:25] <lifeless> kk | |
| [01:25] <lifeless> will rabbit on a bit | |
| [01:26] <lifeless> Ideally I'd actually fix it | |
| [01:26] <lifeless> one thing i'm sure is happening is this: | |
| [01:26] <lifeless> the db code I addedfire, a timeout is raised | |
| [01:27] <lifeless> but the end request hook sees the request as having no oops id | |
| [01:27] <lifeless> and the oops code that puts the oops id into the request isn't running until *after* the end request hook has set a soft request oops id | |
| [01:33] <gary_poster> same request? | |
| [01:34] <lifeless> pretty sure | |
| [01:34] <gary_poster> fly by--still putting kids to bed | |
| [01:34] <lifeless> will check | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + I (<class 'storm.exceptions.TimeoutError'>, TimeoutError(), <traceback object at 0xf1a16c8>) | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + raising request= <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 (<class 'storm.exceptions.TimeoutError'>, TimeoutError(), <traceback object at 0xf194b48>) | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + G | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + UPDATE SessionData SET last_accessed = CURRENT_TIMESTAMP | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + end-hook-set-soft <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + raising request= <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 (<class 'canonical.launchpad.webapp.errorlog.SoftRequestTimeout'>, SoftRequestTimeout(None,), None) | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + save fool | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> + raised-soft <canonical.launchpad.webapp.servers.LaunchpadBrowserRequest instance URL=http://localhost> 280053312 | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> save fool is where the oops is set on the reuqest | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> so - same request | |
| [01:42] <lifeless> and raising is being called into | |
| [01:49] <thumper> hmm... lunch is caling | |
| [01:49] <lifeless> so _makeErrorReport is barfing | |
| [01:49] <lifeless> and its silently swalloed | |
| [01:49] <lifeless> gary_poster: thanks | |
| [01:50] <gary_poster> lifeless, oh solved | |
| [01:50] <gary_poster> awesome | |
| [01:50] <lifeless> gary_poster: well not solved | |
| [01:50] <lifeless> but progress | |
| [01:50] <gary_poster> I had actually built a branch and was proceeding to start a test | |
| [01:50] <gary_poster> great | |
| [01:51] <lifeless> gary_poster: its failing to call sys.exc_info() >< | |
| [01:51] <gary_poster> heh | |
| [01:51] <lifeless> s/call/print the exc_info/ | |
| [01:51] <lifeless> I suspect a securityProxy stabbing me | |
| [01:51] <lifeless> or something | |
| [01:51] <lifeless> + 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'microseconds' | |
| [01:51] <lifeless> *blink* | |
| [01:53] <lifeless> gary_poster: is there something that one can raise, which *will* escape the publication machinery and give a sensible diagnostic in pagetests? | |
| [01:54] <gary_poster> do not understand "escape the publication machinery" | |
| [01:55] <gary_poster> (IOW, the goal) | |
| [01:56] <gary_poster> lifeless ^^^ (and I need to get off the computer in 4 min for mental health :-) ) | |
| [01:56] <lifeless> gary_poster: I was thinking of ways to make this easier to debug in future | |
| [01:57] <lifeless> gary_poster: thank you very much for helping me escape my own mental trap | |
| [01:57] <gary_poster> heh, I'm not sure what I did to help, but I'm glad I did | |
| [01:57] <lifeless> gary_poster: I think I'm good now. May brainstorm later about how this might have been easier to diagnose. | |
| [01:57] <lifeless> gary_poster: you were patient; asked good questions, and sympathised. | |
| [01:58] <lifeless> combination let me take enough of a step back to apply my own awesome skillz :> | |
| [01:59] <lifeless> now to find this ztrace log thing | |
| [02:00] <gary_poster> :-) cool. | |
| [02:00] <gary_poster> have a good day | |
| [02:09] <spm> lifeless: if you haven't noticed; staging lives1 | |
| [02:11] <lifeless> spm: \i/ | |
| [02:11] <lifeless> spm: erm | |
| [02:11] <lifeless> spm: something is wrong | |
| [02:11] <spm> oh? | |
| [02:12] <lifeless> is https://staging.launchpad.net/successful-updates.txt meant to match with the revision in the footer of staging ? | |
| [02:12] <spm> shuold | |
| [02:13] <lifeless> spm: ... | |
| [02:13] <spm> so I see | |
| [02:14] <spm> is def revno 9738 in the live tree. | |
| [02:15] * lifeless is skeptical | |
| [02:15] <spm> bzr-version-info.py is 9710 tho. how... curious | |
| [02:15] <spm> launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr revno | |
| [02:15] <spm> 9738 | |
| [02:15] <spm> ^^ bug in bzr then? :-P | |
| [02:16] <lifeless> bug in the lp build thingymajig | |
| [02:16] <lifeless> file a bug with the details please? lp-foundations | |
| [02:17] <spm> wait a sec... something's not right. | |
| [02:18] <spm> https://pastebin.canonical.com/36696/ <== build date vs date | |
| [02:18] <spm> and the rev id for that matter | |
| [02:18] <lifeless> I agree | |
| [02:19] <lifeless> something is wrong :) | |
| [02:19] <lifeless> run generate_version_info | |
| [02:19] <lifeless> see what happens | |
| [02:19] <spm> heh, was kinda hoping that was "Oh That's *X*" | |
| [02:19] <lifeless> gary_poster: a) thanks again; its all sorted and I'm much happier. b) what happened to your mental health :) | |
| [02:20] <gary_poster> lifeless: (a) yay! (b) it appears to be hosed ;-) | |
| [02:20] <lifeless> gary_poster: ah, welcome to my world... we can be insane together :) | |
| [02:20] <gary_poster> lol :-) | |
| [02:20] <spm> um. find . -name 'generate_version*' <== nothing found. ???? | |
| [02:21] <lifeless> generate_version_info | |
| [02:21] <lifeless> hmm | |
| [02:21] <lifeless> grepping | |
| [02:22] <lifeless> gary_poster: you may like knowing that the fix to my issue also means that every sql statement *attempted* on 'LaunchpadDatabase' will be logged. | |
| [02:22] <gary_poster> that sounds cool | |
| [02:22] <lifeless> changing the confusion that existed around attempted-but-not-executed | |
| [02:23] <gary_poster> right | |
| [02:23] <lifeless> for now I'm logging them with a duration of 999999 | |
| [02:23] <gary_poster> heh | |
| [02:23] <gary_poster> that'll stand out, I hope | |
| [02:23] <lifeless> can dig into the oops stack to see if we can do '-' or something in future | |
| [02:23] <gary_poster> sure | |
| [02:24] <lifeless> spm: scripts/update-bzr-version-info.sh | |
| [02:25] <spm> *blink* | |
| [02:25] <spm> launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ scripts/update-bzr-version-info.sh | |
| [02:25] <spm> Skipping bzr-version-info.py update; already at revno 9710 | |
| [02:25] <lifeless> bzr 2.2 | |
| [02:25] <lifeless> bet you its a bug | |
| [02:26] <lifeless> please file; launchpad-foundations + bzr tasks; losa tag, critical (it will really mess us up if that doesn't right itself) | |
| [02:26] <spm> bzr --version ==> Bazaar (bzr) 2.2.0 | |
| [02:26] <thumper> wallyworld_: best tales docs I've found http://www.owlfish.com/software/simpleTAL/tal-guide.html | |
| [02:27] <thumper> lifeless: that's that all about? | |
| [02:27] <lifeless> spiv: can you please assist ^ > | |
| [02:27] <lifeless> ? | |
| [02:27] <lifeless> thumper: the thing that updates the revision in the bottom right of staging and edge isn't (updating) | |
| [02:27] <thumper> ah | |
| [02:27] <thumper> ok | |
| [02:28] <lifeless> which suggests, very strongly, a bzr bug | |
| [02:30] <poolie> this twitter oauth thing strongly reminds me of the "we must have unique per app tokens" launchpad used to have | |
| [02:31] <poolie> i think we've now seen the light, fortunately | |
| [02:31] <wgrant> For anonymous access, sure. | |
| [02:32] <poolie> yes | |
| [02:32] <poolie> this was proposed for a long time as a reason we couldn't allow anonymous access | |
| [02:33] <wgrant> Indeed. | |
| [02:33] <wgrant> But Twitter's situation is different, as it's authenticated. | |
| [02:36] <spm> lifeless: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/629212 | |
| [02:36] <_mup_> Bug #629212: staging update is showing incorrect version in the html/page footer <canonical-losa-lp> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629212> | |
| [02:36] <lifeless> we can have multiple apps per token, its just a config + trust thing | |
| [02:37] <lifeless> spiv: if you could look at bug 629212 that would be awesome | |
| [02:37] <_mup_> Bug #629212: staging update is showing incorrect version in the html/page footer <canonical-losa-lp> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629212> | |
| [02:37] <lifeless> spiv: I realise its an interupt; but we're hitting release-week on Monday, and thats already pretty harsh for lp :( | |
| [02:40] <poolie> lifeless: he's out atm (or he was) | |
| [02:43] <lifeless> poolie: oh sure, it can wait for later today | |
| [02:43] <lifeless> poolie: I just wanted to be clear about it all | |
| [02:46] <lifeless> ok, thats pretty impressive, I admit it: 2455 OOPS-1706L64 ProductSeries:+bugs | |
| [02:46] <lifeless> the first number is sql queries | |
| [02:51] <wgrant> You should have seen Soyuz a year or so ago. | |
| [02:51] <wgrant> It was better than that :) | |
| [02:52] <lifeless> wgrant: without timing out ? | |
| [02:53] <wgrant> lifeless: ... just. | |
| [02:54] <lifeless> foods time | |
| [03:19] <mwhudson> lifeless: well, that's why we have such beefy db servers :-) | |
| [03:24] <lifeless> mwhudson: >< | |
| [03:29] <lifeless> wtf | |
| [03:29] <lifeless> we still query AccountPassword? | |
| [03:30] <wgrant> Yup. | |
| [03:30] <wgrant> It's still needed for basic auth. | |
| [03:30] <wgrant> But I don't know why it's queried every time. | |
| [03:31] <lifeless> we don't support basic auth anymore do we? I mean, I know its *enabled*, but *support* is different | |
| [03:31] <wgrant> Right. | |
| [03:31] <wgrant> It's enabled and dangerous. | |
| [03:31] <wgrant> So should be deleted. | |
| [03:31] <lifeless> propose a patch | |
| [03:31] <lifeless> DoIt | |
| [03:31] <lifeless> make it controlled by a feature flag | |
| [03:31] <lifeless> if after the rollout folk are screaming | |
| [03:32] <lifeless> we can add a rule to enable it | |
| [03:32] <wgrant> Ooh, good idea. | |
| [03:32] <lifeless> and transition the remaining user(s) | |
| [03:32] <lifeless> if noone screams by 10.10, we nuke the code completely. | |
| [03:35] <wgrant> (and the table) | |
| [03:35] <lifeless> spm: ping | |
| [03:35] <spm> yo | |
| [03:35] <lifeless> spm: on staging | |
| [03:35] <lifeless> I have some evidence suggesting it *is running 9710* | |
| [03:35] <lifeless> spm: I'd like to dig deeper | |
| [03:35] <lifeless> here is my evident | |
| [03:36] <lifeless> my patch 11483 in stable preloads is_valid_person for https://staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+assignments | |
| [03:36] <stub> We still have AccountPassword to support the test OpenId provider the testsuite uses. Dropping it is part of the roadmap I drafted yesterday. | |
| [03:36] <lifeless> but | |
| [03:36] <lifeless> stub: awesome | |
| [03:36] <lifeless> spm: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1707S19 | |
| [03:37] <lifeless> shows 191 SELECT ValidPersonCache.id FROM ValidPersonCache WHERE ValidPersonCache.id = %s LIMIT 1 calls | |
| [03:37] <lifeless> spm: on edge, when I checked yesterday, the page didn't have that | |
| [03:37] <wgrant> stub: I guess it really just needs a place to enter an email address? | |
| [03:37] <wgrant> And maybe a button to fail auth, to make testing easier. | |
| [03:38] <stub> wgrant: Yes, and a box to override the OpenId Identity to test some edge cases. | |
| [03:38] <wgrant> Since that's difficult at the moment. | |
| [03:38] <lifeless> spm: db-stable 9738 is past 11483 | |
| [03:38] <wgrant> Ah, true. | |
| [03:38] <lifeless> spm: so, in theory, it should not be issuing those queryies | |
| [03:38] <lifeless> spm: so I think that staging right now is still useless | |
| [03:39] <spm> mmmmmmmmmmm | |
| [03:39] <spm> frown evem | |
| [03:39] <lifeless> spm: "grep 'def _specification_sort' lib/lp/blueprints/model/specification.py" | |
| [03:40] <lifeless> spm: if that finds a function, lets cross check that whats showing on the web *is running from where you think its running* | |
| [03:40] <lifeless> spm: if it doesn't, then what we're seeing on the web is consistent with the source code you're looking at, and we can look at bzr etc | |
| [03:42] <spm> was going to ask do you have a way to confirm existance... ta | |
| [03:42] <spm> lifeless: most curious. zero results found. ?? | |
| [03:42] <lifeless> then we're not running 9738 | |
| [03:42] <lifeless> ok | |
| [03:42] <spm> orsum | |
| [03:42] <spm> bzr missing; perhaps? | |
| [03:42] <lifeless> bzr revision-info --tree | |
| [03:42] <lifeless> bzr revision-info | |
| [03:42] <lifeless> run both please | |
| [03:42] <spm> oki | |
| [03:43] <lifeless> bug 629212 | |
| [03:43] <_mup_> Bug #629212: staging update is showing incorrect version in the html/page footer <canonical-losa-lp> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629212> | |
| [03:43] <spm> wow | |
| [03:43] <spm> launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr revision-info --tree | |
| [03:43] <spm> 9710 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100827184922-1f7jszjyrqw4dasv | |
| [03:43] <spm> launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr revision-info | |
| [03:43] <spm> 9738 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100902161314-dy8vhr3l8epgpo2s | |
| [03:43] <lifeless> spm: ok, the tree is out of date | |
| [03:43] <lifeless> I'll update 629212 with that | |
| [03:43] <lifeless> spm: please run 'bzr update' | |
| [03:43] <lifeless> and make run, or however you kick things off | |
| [03:44] <spm> i wonder if this'll break staging rather spectacularly - the DB would have been set via 9710.... | |
| [03:44] <lifeless> spm: almost certainly | |
| [03:44] <spm> as we just rsync the code around. whee. | |
| [03:44] <lifeless> well | |
| [03:44] <lifeless> where does this code start? | |
| [03:44] <lifeless> whats the source of the rsync | |
| [03:44] <lifeless> and if you say sodium, el crasho, I'm going to cry. | |
| [03:45] * spm hates to see a grown man cry and says nothing | |
| [03:45] <lifeless> ok, so you probably just need to run 'bzr update' on sodium | |
| [03:45] <spm> launchpad@asuka:/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad$ bzr update | |
| [03:45] <spm> bzr: ERROR: This tree contains left-over files from a failed operation. | |
| [03:45] <spm> Please examine /srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad/.bzr/checkout/limbo to see if it contains any files you wish to | |
| [03:45] <spm> keep, and delete it when you are done. | |
| [03:45] <lifeless> and kick the whole thing off again | |
| [03:45] * spm puts head in hands and tears up a little | |
| [03:46] <lifeless> sodium will be like that too | |
| [03:46] <lifeless> lets fix at root | |
| [03:46] <spm> yeah, that's where I'm heading | |
| [03:48] <spm> damn. sodium is really futzed with that tree. | |
| [03:48] <lifeless> bug updated | |
| [03:48] <lifeless> whats the sodium rt ? I cannae see it | |
| [03:49] <spm> the h/w fail one? not sure if it even has one tbh | |
| [03:50] <lifeless> it had one | |
| [03:50] <lifeless> it may have been closed after the chassis was replaced. | |
| [03:51] <spm> have moved the existing db-stable to *.busticated; doing a brand new branch et al to be sure to be sure | |
| [03:52] <lifeless> thanks | |
| [03:52] <lifeless> sorry for the interrupt | |
| [03:58] <lifeless> spm: I've updated the bug and the bodyswap RT ticket | |
| [03:59] <lifeless> stub: sodium has less CPU and RAM than it did, its why the PPR may be running into swap when it wasn't before. | |
| [03:59] <spm> oh no, is fine; and yeah that sounds about right. | |
| [04:01] <lifeless> hah | |
| [04:01] <lifeless> rt fail | |
| [04:01] <lifeless> it mades a new ticket | |
| [04:01] <lifeless> 41200 >< | |
| [04:01] <lifeless> spiv: unping | |
| [04:09] <stub> lifeless: ahh | |
| [04:10] <lifeless> stub: I only found out reading closed rt tickets looking for the sodium thing | |
| [04:10] <lifeless> spm: it would be nice to share those things btw, just saying | |
| [04:11] <lifeless> (and I know it wasn't up to you :>) | |
| [04:13] <lifeless> http://ayende.com/Blog/archive/2010/08/31/it-really-happened-legacy-programmers-tales.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+AyendeRahien+(Ayende+%40+Rahien) | |
| [04:17] <stub> Is sourcepackage one word or two in the Launchpad vocabulary? I can never remember. I think I even asked this yesterday... | |
| [04:17] <lifeless> one I think | |
| [04:19] <stub> BinaryPackageBuild thinks it is two, pretty much everything else thinks its one. But BPB is new and perhaps the new way forward? | |
| [04:20] <wgrant> stub: Two. | |
| [04:20] <wgrant> What says it's one? | |
| [04:20] <lifeless> spm: Segmentation fault in cron still waorries me | |
| [04:24] <stub> wgrant: hyphenation of database column names... haven't looked for capitalisation in Python source code. | |
| [04:25] <stub> but hyphenation can be wonky from when we didn't underscore between words. | |
| [04:25] <wgrant> stub: Pretty much everything except BPB predates the hyphenation. | |
| [04:25] <wgrant> Exactly. | |
| [04:25] <stub> Ta. | |
| [04:25] <wgrant> It's been capitalised SourcePackage since like 2005. | |
| [04:30] <spm`> pqm@devpad:/code/rocketfuel-built/db-stable$ bzr revision-info --tree | |
| [04:30] <spm`> 9739 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100902175034-3o81ksb8qmulx82x | |
| [04:30] <spm`> pqm@devpad:/code/rocketfuel-built/db-stable$ bzr revision-info | |
| [04:30] <spm`> 9739 launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100902175034-3o81ksb8qmulx82x | |
| [04:30] <spm`> lifeless: ^^ | |
| [04:30] <lifeless> spm`: \o/ | |
| [04:31] <lifeless> spm`: time for the acid test | |
| [04:31] <spm`> :-) | |
| [05:05] <thumper> :( | |
| [05:05] <thumper> 'lp.services.job.tests.test_runner.TestTwistedJobRunner.test_timeout' spurious test failure | |
| [05:10] <spm`> lifeless: right. timing worked against us a bit there; have stabbed the (still doing it wrong) restore; manually ensureed we have the latest pony; and the next restore in .... 4 minutes, should push out 9739 | |
| [05:10] <lifeless> spm`: if my fingers cross any harder they will break | |
| [05:10] <spm`> :-) | |
| [05:10] <lifeless> stub: did you remember where our new storm base base class is ? | |
| [05:11] <stub> lifeless: I don't think anyone has created it yet. | |
| [05:12] <lifeless> stub: is it ok to use storm.base.Storm ? | |
| [05:12] <lifeless> stub: on completely new things? | |
| [05:13] <lifeless> (TimeLimitedToken for the librarian ) | |
| [05:13] <stub> I use storm.locals.Storm, but yet. Better to create a three line subclass in the LP tree though and use it. I don't think anyone knows where it should live though. | |
| [05:13] <stub> c/yet/yes/ | |
| [05:13] <lifeless> stub: I want to get this branch in shape for Abel | |
| [05:14] <lifeless> if we're already using Storm directly, anywhere, we'll need to do a mass migration, so its no harder. | |
| [05:14] <stub> We already use Storm directly elsewhere. | |
| [05:14] <lifeless> thanks | |
| === almaisan` is now known as al-maisan | |
| [05:18] <lifeless> time to rebuild my session db | |
| [05:18] <lifeless> stub: will you want a sql patch for the tokens | |
| [05:18] <lifeless> stub: or just grab the table defn I put in session.sql | |
| [05:24] <lifeless> spm`: staging mail came through, but staging is down. | |
| [05:24] <lifeless> spm`: is that normal, monsieur backtick ? | |
| [05:24] <spm`> yeah. I manually rekicked it. | |
| [05:24] <lifeless> spm`: just a minute ago ? | |
| [05:24] <spm`> about 10ish | |
| [05:24] <spm`> 15 I kicked; it should have restarted abot 10 ago | |
| [05:25] <spm`> and isn't. sigh. | |
| [05:25] <lifeless> spm`: I saw mail 6 minutes or so ago | |
| [05:26] <spm`> yeah. something funkies up | |
| [05:26] <stub> lifeless: I need to manually apply things, so no need for a database patch. Needs a note on 'unusual deployment' on the rollout page, because things will explode if I forget. | |
| [05:27] <stub> lifeless: Staging will explode too if it lands without work, so I guess I should make the changes to prod and staging just before you land. | |
| [05:31] <spm`> wowo. something really blew up. | |
| [05:31] <spm`> Fri Sep 3 04:22:22 UTC 2010 Applying database updates and permissions to DB | |
| [05:31] <spm`> Traceback (most recent call last): | |
| [05:31] <spm`> File "./upgrade.py", line 13, in <module> | |
| [05:31] <spm`> import _pythonpath # Sort PYTHONPATH | |
| [05:31] <spm`> ImportError: No module named _pythonpath | |
| [05:31] <spm`> stub: ^^ staging restore just now | |
| [05:31] <lifeless> buildout | |
| [05:32] <stub> Yay, it isn't me! | |
| [05:32] <spm`> although this looks bad too: urllib2.URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/srv/staging.launchpad.net/staging/launchpad/download-cache/dist/setuptools-0.6c11-py2.6.egg'> | |
| [05:32] <spm`> ha | |
| [05:32] <lifeless> whats the staging librarian url ? | |
| [05:34] <lifeless> ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/robertc/launchpad/lp-branches/working/lib/canonical/shipit/browser/configure.zcml", line 7.4-12.49 | |
| [05:34] <lifeless> ImportError: No module named cachedproperty | |
| [05:34] <lifeless> *hate hate hate stab stab stab* | |
| [05:37] <spm`> lifeless: librarian.staging.launchpad.net ? or did you mean something else... | |
| [05:37] <wgrant> lifeless: Split split split. | |
| [05:37] <wgrant> spm`: Er, really? | |
| [05:38] <wgrant> I really hope not. | |
| [05:38] <lifeless> spm`: the staging equivalent to launchpadlibrarian.net | |
| [05:39] <spm`> oh that one. right. staging.launchpadlibrarian.net | |
| [05:39] <wgrant> (phew) | |
| [05:39] <spm`> you may begin to see a pattern here... :-) | |
| [05:40] <lifeless> thumper: can you please put rt 41202 to pri 89 | |
| [05:41] <thumper> lifeless: possibly, trying to login | |
| [05:41] <lifeless> where do shipit bugs get filed? | |
| [05:42] <lifeless> like 'we can't rollout until this is fixed' style shipit bugs | |
| [05:42] <wgrant> shipit | |
| [05:42] <wgrant> But they're normally fixed by LP... | |
| [05:42] <lifeless> yeah | |
| [05:42] <lifeless> I have a sketchy patch | |
| [05:42] <thumper> lifeless: done | |
| [05:42] <wgrant> But it can't be broken, can it? | |
| [05:42] <wgrant> ec2 tests it. | |
| [05:42] <wgrant> So does buildbot. | |
| [05:43] <lifeless> wgrant: guess what | |
| [05:43] <lifeless> wgrant: go on guess | |
| [05:43] <lifeless> wgrant: I dares you | |
| [05:45] <wgrant> My guess would be python version differences, but that doesn't seem relevant here. | |
| [05:45] <wgrant> Or buildbot wasn't update-sourcecoding. | |
| [05:45] <wgrant> Or prasé isn't. | |
| [05:45] * spm` notes the 'prasé' and smiles :-) | |
| [05:46] <lifeless> wgrant: zcml barfs in includes that don't affect the core test suite don't break it. | |
| [05:46] <lifeless> wgrant: or something ~= to that | |
| [05:46] <wgrant> lifeless: O_o | |
| [05:46] <lifeless> wgrant: anyhow, I dunno. | |
| [05:47] <lifeless> maybe allenap cheated and didn't ec2land, in which case its going to go boom and we'll be in testfix in, oh, 2.5 hours | |
| [05:47] <thumper> ec2 giving WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! | |
| [05:47] <thumper> anyone else seeing this? | |
| [05:47] <thumper> is there a reason? | |
| [05:48] <lifeless> wgrant: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/shipit/+bug/629259 for your pain | |
| [05:48] <_mup_> Bug #629259: cachedproperty was imported by shipit <canonical-losa-lp> <ShipIt:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629259> | |
| [05:49] <mwhudson> lifeless: have you run utilities/update-sourcecode? | |
| [05:49] <lifeless> mwhudson: I'm checking that now, but pqm barfed at me with the same error earlier | |
| [05:49] <mwhudson> ah | |
| [05:49] <lifeless> mwhudson: on a production config change | |
| [05:50] <mwhudson> oh there's probably some config-manager branch that needs to change | |
| [05:50] <mwhudson> maybe | |
| [05:50] <lifeless> yes | |
| [05:50] <lifeless> I suspect so now having checked | |
| [05:50] <lifeless> sourcecode has been udpated | |
| [05:50] <wgrant> thumper: That just means you're lucky. | |
| [05:51] <wgrant> thumper: You've got an instance reusing an old IP. | |
| [05:51] <mwhudson> the config-manager config is in the lp-production-configs branch iirc... | |
| [05:51] <thumper> :( | |
| [05:51] <lifeless> mwhudson: yes, had a lovely race condition there last night | |
| [05:51] <thumper> wgrant: three times in a row | |
| [05:51] <thumper> must be extra lucky* | |
| [05:51] <lifeless> actually its a bug | |
| [05:51] <lifeless> if you're using ec2 land/test | |
| [05:51] <mwhudson> thumper: rm ~/.ec2/known_hosts | |
| [05:52] <lifeless> that is meant to zap stuff and set it up for you | |
| [05:52] <wgrant> Ah, right. | |
| [05:52] <thumper> lifeless: using ec2 test | |
| [05:53] <mwhudson> ec2 test should probably use the ssh -RogerMeHarder options to not get it to check keys at all | |
| [05:53] <mwhudson> if it has them even | |
| [05:54] <lifeless> mwhudson: every now and then your uk heritage shines through ;) | |
| [05:54] <thumper> so I can fix this by removing the known_hosts | |
| [05:54] <thumper> ? | |
| [05:55] <mwhudson> thumper: yes | |
| [05:55] <mwhudson> until next time | |
| [05:55] <mwhudson> lifeless: >:) | |
| [05:55] * thumper sighs | |
| [06:01] <lifeless> spm`: when is the next edge update ? | |
| [06:01] <lifeless> spm`: can we abort it ? tip of stable is not safe to rollout. | |
| === ]reed[ is now known as [reed] | |
| [06:07] <lifeless> I really dislike this Robert Collins(bugnumnber)... | |
| [06:07] <lifeless> in emails | |
| [06:08] <wgrant> As in the fake bug email address? | |
| [06:08] <lifeless> yes | |
| [06:09] <wgrant> Yes :( | |
| [06:12] <lifeless> ok -> airport. bbiab | |
| [07:02] <spm`> lifeless: about one hour, and yes. | |
| === spm` changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: Code hosting offline 8.00-9.30 UTC on Friday 3rd September for unexpected hardware maintenance. http://is.gd/eRMxF | Launchpad Development Channel | Performance Tuesday | Week 3 of 10.09 | PQM is OPEN | firefighting: edge rollouts disabled | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Get the code: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | On-call review in irc://irc.freenode.net/#launchpad-reviews | |
| [07:37] * StevenK tries to work out what Zope is telling him | |
| [07:37] <wgrant> StevenK: What's it complaining about? | |
| [07:40] <StevenK> wgrant: ComponentLookupError | |
| [07:42] * StevenK grumbles at zcml | |
| [07:59] <lifeless> spm`: can we stop it ? | |
| [07:59] <spm`> lifeless: it is: https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/OSA/LaunchpadProductionStatus#Edge%20Updates | |
| [07:59] <lifeless> spm`: thanks | |
| [07:59] <spm`> np. | |
| [07:59] <spm`> I should relaly restart bip to get rid of that '`' | |
| === spm` is now known as spm | |
| [08:00] <lifeless> I'll put the rollback into pqm in a few minutes | |
| [08:00] <spm> coolio | |
| [08:01] <lifeless> spm: hows staging? | |
| [08:03] <spm> still unwell I assume, haven't chased tbh. | |
| === henninge_ is now known as henninge | |
| [08:38] <spm> lifeless: revno 9741 should be being rolled out in about 5 mins. (fingers crossed etc etc) | |
| [08:39] <spm> on staging, as in. | |
| [08:46] <lifeless> spm: great, thanks | |
| [08:46] <adeuring> good morning | |
| [08:56] <lifeless> spm: bugger | |
| [08:56] <lifeless> spm: can you stamp on pqm for me | |
| [08:56] <spm> wich part? | |
| [08:56] <lifeless> the job I just mistargeted to prod-devel | |
| [08:56] <spm> oops | |
| [08:58] <spm> lifeless: lucky you | |
| [08:58] <StevenK> Is there some way I can cleanup my lp-sourcedeps/eggs directory? | |
| [08:58] <spm> Commit message [[rs=deryck][ui=none] Rollback rev 11491.] does not match commit_re | |
| [08:59] <lifeless> spm: thanks | |
| [09:02] <lifeless> hopefully this one will get through | |
| [09:02] <lifeless> adeuring: I have a rollback landing | |
| [09:03] <adeuring> lifeless: I've seen your mails (but haven't had yet enough coffee) | |
| [09:04] <lifeless> adeuring: thats cool | |
| [09:04] <lifeless> adeuring: I"m starting to update bugs and stuff now that I'm back home from the airport | |
| [09:04] <lifeless> adeuring: simply letting you know so that we don't roll it back twice :P | |
| [09:04] <adeuring> lifeless: ok. so, how shall we proceed regarding the need to get the retracers working again? | |
| [09:05] <lifeless> the firewall port has been opened | |
| [09:05] <lifeless> adeuring: if lp is serving the restricted librarian urls out now, it should be working | |
| [09:05] <adeuring> lifeless: right | |
| [09:05] <lifeless> adeuring: have your coffee; catch up on mails | |
| [09:06] <adeuring> ;) | |
| [09:06] <lifeless> that will give me time to update bugs to make the plan as clear as I can | |
| [09:12] <spm> <adeuring> lifeless: I've seen your mails (but haven't had yet enough coffee) <== Man after my own heart. I too find dealing with lifeless and his emails to be much smoother post coffee. ;-) | |
| [09:21] <allenap> lifeless: Have I broken something? | |
| [09:22] <lifeless> allenap: I'm not sure | |
| [09:22] <allenap> :) | |
| [09:22] <lifeless> allenap: have you landed the shipit change? | |
| [09:22] <allenap> lifeless: Yeah, that landed over a week ago I think. | |
| [09:23] <lifeless> allenap: for cachedproperty use? | |
| [09:23] <stub> Gah. I'm always bitching about other people adding stdout noise to the test suite, and I just notice some from one of my recent landings :-P | |
| [09:23] <allenap> lifeless: Yep. | |
| [09:23] <lifeless> allenap: ah, but your lp branch only landed last night? | |
| [09:23] <allenap> lifeless: Yeah, but versions.cfg only got bumped in my branch too. | |
| [09:24] <lifeless> allenap: so landing a production config change barfed this morning on shipit zcml | |
| [09:24] <allenap> lifeless: Sorry, utilities/sourcedeps.conf | |
| [09:25] <lifeless> allenap: because that doesn't use versions.cfg, we have to land branches that cause incompatibilities in lockstep, not way apart. | |
| [09:25] <lifeless> allenap: it may be fixed now, I'll toss a test change at it. | |
| [09:26] <allenap> lifeless: Was shipit tip pulled into production? | |
| [09:27] <lifeless> allenap: yes, thats how the older stuff works | |
| [09:27] <allenap> lifeless: Gah, I didn't realise that could happen. | |
| [09:27] <lifeless> allenap: not live production, but the mechanism by which production config changes are made | |
| [09:28] <lifeless> allenap: its a hangover, it should be changed. | |
| [09:28] <allenap> lifeless: Okay. I'm sorry about that. I meant to land the two branches close to one another, then realised there were problems with the Launchpad part, and thought it would be okay - because of sourcedeps.conf - to leave shipit as is. | |
| [09:29] <lifeless> allenap: no worries, now I know what went on it makes sense. I'm checking now that there isn't a persisting problem | |
| [09:29] <wgrant> Why doesn't production use sourcedeps.conf? | |
| [09:29] <allenap> lifeless: Cool, thanks for sorting this out while I slept unaware :) | |
| [09:29] <lifeless> wgrant: pqm landing production-configs uses config-manager | |
| [09:29] <lifeless> allenap: I think your branch landing has sorted it | |
| [09:29] <wgrant> lifeless: Yes, but why? | |
| [09:30] <lifeless> wgrant: 20:30 < lifeless> allenap: its a hangover, it should be changed. | |
| [09:31] <wgrant> lifeless: Your clock is wrong. | |
| [09:31] <wgrant> But, ah. | |
| [09:32] <StevenK> wgrant: Pedant. | |
| [09:32] <lifeless> oh foo, I can't land stuff till codehosting is back. | |
| [09:32] * lifeless files a bug for redundandcy | |
| [09:33] <StevenK> A redundant bug? | |
| [09:42] <jkakar> I think the diff on the merge proposal page would be more readable if it used a fixed-width font. | |
| [09:43] <wgrant> jkakar: It does. | |
| [09:44] <wgrant> jkakar: Are you using edge, and also don't have the UbuntuBeta font installed? | |
| [09:45] <jkakar> wgrant: I'm using edge and I have the UbuntuBeta font installed. | |
| [09:46] <wgrant> Hmm. | |
| [09:47] <jkakar> The diff is shown using the UbuntuBeta font. | |
| [09:47] <wgrant> Not for me :( | |
| [09:48] <wgrant> Maybe my UbuntuBeta is old. | |
| [09:48] <wgrant> Hm, no. | |
| [09:50] <lifeless> thumper filed a bug for this on launchpad-web today, I think. | |
| [09:50] <lifeless> or someone did. | |
| [09:50] <allenap> +1 for diffs in cursive. | |
| [09:50] <StevenK> Argh, no | |
| [09:50] <StevenK> allenap: Evil! | |
| [09:50] <wgrant> lifeless: There is a bug for it, yes. | |
| [09:50] <wgrant> Bug 629181 | |
| [09:50] <_mup_> Bug #629181: code review diffs are in a proportional font on edge <launchpad-web:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629181> | |
| [09:51] <wgrant> Hence the question about whether the font was installed. | |
| [09:51] <jkakar> allenap: p:first-letter { font-size: 200% } | |
| [09:51] <lifeless> wgrant: ah, it was you ;p | |
| [09:51] <jkakar> Might as well make the diff look like an old manuscript. :) | |
| [09:51] <allenap> jkakar: Oh, oh, that's so brilliant. | |
| [09:51] <wgrant> lifeless: It wasn't me. | |
| [09:51] <wgrant> I just saw it fly past. | |
| [09:52] <lifeless> oh, someone. | |
| [09:52] <StevenK> lifeless: mwhudson | |
| [09:53] <lifeless> ah yes thanks | |
| [10:02] <lifeless> adeuring: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/395960 | |
| [10:02] <_mup_> Bug #395960: proxying user supplied files via the launchpad appserver domain has security and performance issues <librarian> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/395960> | |
| [10:03] <lifeless> adeuring: thats the bug we'll be fixing | |
| [10:04] <adeuring> right | |
| [10:09] <lifeless> adeuring: codehosting is back if you want to pull the private-librarian branch | |
| [10:09] * adeuring is looking | |
| [10:10] <lifeless> adeuring: there are instructions on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~lifeless/launchpad/private-librarian/+merge/31020 about getting going with it | |
| [10:31] <lifeless> adeuring: hey, so I've updated the bug and the mp and chased a few things around | |
| [10:31] <adeuring> lifeless: ok | |
| [10:32] <lifeless> adeuring: so I'm going to work on this monday, tuesday etc | |
| [10:32] <adeuring> cool | |
| [10:32] <lifeless> adeuring: if you'd like to collaborate that would be awesome | |
| [10:32] <lifeless> adeuring: I understand deryck is giving you a slab of time to do this, if you're interested. | |
| [10:32] <adeuring> lifeless: sure, I am | |
| [10:32] <lifeless> awesome | |
| [10:33] <lifeless> so, its heading towards late for me; I'd love to give you a brain scan to get my internal state on it | |
| [10:33] <lifeless> but failing that, perhaps you can poke around and ask / discuss to get some info before I crash? | |
| [10:33] <adeuring> lifeless: thanks :) Are the scanners yet internet ready? | |
| [10:34] <lifeless> adeuring: the scanners? | |
| [10:34] <lifeless> oh | |
| [10:34] <adeuring> lifeless: for brain scans | |
| [10:34] <lifeless> for the scan. No. Thats why I can't | |
| [10:34] <lifeless> I have them in the doorways at the house; instant backup | |
| [10:34] <adeuring> lifeless: cool. Anyway, I'm reading the MP, but I'm not that fast ;) | |
| [10:45] <michaelh1> Hey, is the API up at the moment? I'm getting strange errors using launchpadlib... | |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | |
| === mthaddon changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: Launchpad Development Channel | Performance Tuesday | Week 3 of 10.09 | PQM is OPEN | firefighting: edge rollouts disabled | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Get the code: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | On-call review in irc://irc.freenode.net/#launchpad-reviews | |
| [10:55] <lifeless> hmm, its not perf tuesday anymore ;P | |
| === lifeless changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: topic | |
| [10:55] <lifeless> bah | |
| === lifeless changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: Launchpad Development Channel | Week 3 of 10.09 | PQM is OPEN | firefighting: edge rollouts disabled | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Get the code: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | On-call review in irc://irc.freenode.net/#launchpad-reviews | |
| [10:58] <seb128> hi | |
| [10:58] <seb128> is there any known bug with untagging bugs with the launchpablib api recently? | |
| [10:58] <seb128> the retracers are running but seems untagging is not working | |
| [10:59] <seb128> though the recent retracer crashed on a | |
| [10:59] <seb128> lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error | |
| [10:59] <seb128> ... | |
| [10:59] <seb128> Sorry, you can't upload or download files from Launchpad at the moment, | |
| [10:59] <seb128> because we're doing feng shui in the server room. Normal service will | |
| [10:59] <seb128> resume within an hour. | |
| [10:59] <lifeless> hmm, thats a librarian related error | |
| [10:59] <seb128> I guess that's different from the untagging | |
| [10:59] <seb128> it failed to add the stracktrace | |
| [11:00] <lifeless> mthaddon: sorry for the interrupt; have both librarians been behaving ? | |
| [11:00] <lifeless> seb128: yeah, thats the upload process | |
| [11:00] <mthaddon> not aware of any librarian problems | |
| [11:01] <seb128> ok, I've restarted the retracer | |
| [11:01] <seb128> let's see if that was a one time issue | |
| [11:21] <lifeless> adeuring: well I hope it made sense ;) | |
| [11:21] <adeuring> lifeless: the discussion in the mp? sure | |
| [11:36] <lifeless> adeuring: gnight | |
| [11:37] <lifeless> adeuring: I'll probably poke at this in the weekend; please do push up any stuff you do on top of it and mention in the MP or something | |
| [11:39] <adeuring> lifeless: ok, will do. nice weekend! | |
| [11:42] <noodles775> Night lifeless | |
| [11:49] <jtv> Argh. This familiar to anyone? It doesn't seem related to anything I did in my branch. | |
| [11:49] <jtv> ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/ftesting.zcml", line 17.4-17.35 | |
| [11:49] <jtv> ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/lib/canonical/configure.zcml", line 147.4-148.42 | |
| [11:49] <jtv> ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/lib/canonical/shipit/configure.zcml", line 7.4-8.28 | |
| [11:49] <jtv> ZopeXMLConfigurationError: File "/home/jtv/canonical/lp-branches/bug-618393/lib/canonical/shipit/browser/configure.zcml", line 7.4-12.49 | |
| [11:49] <jtv> ImportError: cannot import name cachedproperty | |
| [11:57] <deryck> Morning, all. | |
| [11:57] <noodles775> jtv: bug 629259 ? | |
| [11:57] <_mup_> Bug #629259: cachedproperty was imported by shipit <canonical-losa-lp> <ShipIt:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/629259> | |
| [11:57] <jtv> noodles775: ah thanks! | |
| [11:57] <jtv> hi deryck | |
| [11:57] <seb128> re | |
| [11:58] <seb128> retracer crahed again the same way | |
| [11:58] <seb128> lazr.restfulclient.errors.HTTPError: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error | |
| [11:58] <deryck> hi seb128. | |
| [11:58] <seb128> Sorry, you can't upload or download files from Launchpad at the moment, | |
| [11:58] <seb128> because we're doing feng shui in the server room. Normal service will | |
| [11:58] <seb128> resume within an hour. | |
| [11:58] <seb128> hey deryck | |
| [11:58] <seb128> deryck, seems we progress, the retracers have access to the crashes now | |
| [11:59] <jtv> noodles775: I wonder why suddenly this started affecting me around the time I renamed my branch directory… | |
| [11:59] <seb128> they just get an error when trying to upload the retraced stacktrace | |
| [11:59] <deryck> seb128, ok, let me check on that. | |
| [12:04] <jtv> noodles775: ah, a devel merge was also needed. | |
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| [17:11] <mars> beuno, something interesting for you and the design group: http://uxmovement.com/design-articles/faster-with-top-aligned-labels | |
| [17:13] <beuno> mars, based on research, that's how I defined this: https://wiki.canonical.com/UserExperienceDesign/WebGuidelines/Forms | |
| [17:14] <beuno> not that I'm allowed to do design anymore (?) | |
| [17:14] <mars> beuno, that's awesome | |
| [17:14] <mars> the page I mean :) | |
| [17:15] <beuno> heh | |
| [17:15] <beuno> (apologies for all you lurkers not being able to see that page) | |
| [17:15] <beuno> mars, there's a bunch of stuff there: https://wiki.canonical.com/UserExperienceDesign/WebGuidelines/ | |
| [17:15] <beuno> I don't think anyone has picked up that work | |
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| === lifeless changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: Launchpad Development Channel | Week 3 of 10.09 | PQM is OPEN | firefighting: - | https://dev.launchpad.net/ | Get the code: https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | On-call review in irc://irc.freenode.net/#launchpad-reviews | |
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| [21:44] <lifeless> gary_poster: timeline has landed | |
| [21:44] <gary_poster> great, lifeless | |
| [21:44] <gary_poster> that will be nice to see | |
| [21:44] <lifeless> gary_poster: do you know of anything other than (sql, email, memcache) in production that can block atm ? | |
| [21:44] <gary_poster> do the oops tools need a parallel update? | |
| [21:45] <lifeless> gary_poster: it would be nice to teach them to do more with the info and look at a format change; for now I worked in the current constraints as expressed in the LP code | |
| [21:45] <lifeless> so the database column is now category | |
| [21:45] <gary_poster> fair enough | |
| [21:45] <lifeless> 'launchpad-master' will be SQL-launchpad-master | |
| [21:45] <lifeless> so the existing group-and-report-longest should still work | |
| [21:46] <gary_poster> blocks:I'm told that librarian blocks already, and I do seem to recall this. | |
| [21:46] <lifeless> ah yes, I knew that one but forgot. Thanks! | |
| [21:46] <lifeless> I'm looking at doing a tiny patch to add categories and reporting for all of these, | |
| [21:46] <lifeless> . | |
| [21:47] <lifeless> and propose it for RC so we get better reporting during the next cycle | |
| [21:47] <gary_poster> before I forget, lifeless: in regards to your "simplify OOPS emails" email from a while ago, that fits in line with things matsubara and Ursinha had discussed. In a couple of weeks I'm planning to start focusing them + mars on that. We'll be in touch soon with our thoughts so we can all be aligned. | |
| [21:48] <lifeless> gary_poster: great, thanks for letting me know. | |
| [21:48] <gary_poster> of course | |
| [21:59] <lifeless> http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1854041 | |
| [21:59] <lifeless> slightly tweaked version of his blog post | |
| [22:19] <mars> heya lifeless, have a sec for a testrepository question? | |
| [22:19] <lifeless> shoot | |
| [22:19] <mars> ok | |
| [22:19] <mars> I was looking at using testrepository with the Zope testrunner | |
| [22:20] <mars> and thinking about how zope can take test IDs in the form 'bin/test id1 id2 id3' | |
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| [22:20] <thumper> lifeless, any quake damage where you are? | |
| [22:20] <lifeless> thumper: rangiora; haven't gone around the town looking but not expecting to find much : old riverbed, not reclaimed land | |
| [22:21] <lifeless> chc turned to jelly after the first shockwave passed through | |
| [22:21] <thumper> I've seen some pictures | |
| [22:21] <lifeless> thumper: my place seems fine so far, haven't gone into the weather to audit the outside yet. | |
| [22:21] <thumper> personally I slept through it | |
| [22:21] <lifeless> the press has some pretty stunning ones | |
| [22:21] <thumper> cool | |
| [22:22] <mars> lifeless, so testrepository has an IDFILE and test_id_option... ok, just thought of something | |
| [22:23] <lifeless> mars: the zope test runner should support --load-list | |
| [22:23] <lifeless> mars: jml patched it up | |
| [22:23] <lifeless> mars: naively, I'd expect the .testr.conf for launchpad to work with it unmodified | |
| [22:23] <mars> lifeless, hasn't landed in upstream. I have the latest | |
| [22:23] <lifeless> ah | |
| [22:24] <lifeless> maybe zope.testing is ahead of zope itself? | |
| [22:25] <mars> zope.testing + zope.testrunner | |
| [22:25] <mars> (now) | |
| [22:25] <mars> actually | |
| [22:25] <mars> zope.testing + zope.testrunner + zc.recipe.testrunner | |
| [22:26] <lifeless> ok | |
| [22:26] <lifeless> anyhow, --load-list is terribly simple. | |
| [22:26] <lifeless> best thing to do would be to get that upstream | |
| [22:26] <lifeless> it is 'load all the tests. Perform a set intersection.' | |
| [22:26] <mars> lifeless, this should work: deoesn't though: | |
| [22:26] <mars> [DEFAULT] | |
| [22:27] <mars> test_command=./bin/test --subunit $IDOPTION | |
| [22:27] <mars> test_id_option= $IDLIST | |
| [22:27] <lifeless> what dos it do ? | |
| [22:27] <mars> prints the string 'IDLIST' | |
| [22:27] <mars> $ testr run --failing | |
| [22:27] <lifeless> there are a couple of testr bugs in this area | |
| [22:27] <mars> 'IDLIST' | |
| [22:27] <lifeless> up | |
| [22:27] <lifeless> uhm | |
| [22:27] <lifeless> try test_command=./bin/test --subunit $IDLIST | |
| [22:29] <mars> ok, that sort of works, but it looks like it only accepts one module or test | |
| [22:29] <mars> bin/test that is | |
| [22:29] <mars> ok, so upstream is still the best option | |
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