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: Office Me. cOrandiin • pIITED STATES GOV. RNMENT

TO : Chief, Security descerch Staff

FROM : Chief, Technical Eranch

sUBJECT: AETICiOKE Conference, 19 Noventer 1953.

DATE: 3 Peccrter 1793
A/B, II, 1, 3

1. 0n 19.llovember 1953, between 2:12 11 end 3:50 I: an ARTICHOKE Conference yas held in the Security Offico Conferorce Room.Present woresackre

2. frkrprcpened the Gonference by discuusing agein the A perers on the re-statement of airs end functions of the ARTICliCKE progran and the project involving treiree veluntocrs. se statedi that wless the Conforence proposed chenres in the idces, these papers would te regarded as conplete and would te taken up throuch the proper /goney channels of authority. The paper of the re-statement of aims and functions would te forwerded to the Director's Office and the paper on trairen volumtocrs vould te taken up with the Training Division in order that deteils of the progran could Le worked out before being carried hirher (sec reragraphs 7-13).

3.ethen spoke of the sendirg of the ARTiciCle Teams to the statedtitt prswould be leaving probably atout the first of the year for Ahesgoingpelmanentlyd going for a period not to exceed six nonths TDY to work with nzeand pain exsrience.feroeaehgointed out thetsevas now in intensive training in lanpres and had reccntly worked in a spociel training cource in hypnosis and wes continuing work in practical training alonr; thcse linon. Sror Cousstated thal TrrwerChicf of Sccurityat licadeuartcrs Sar is arriving protably the followine weck and a conference would l laid on withe in rorard towork ond A ss mission would bo spellnd out in dcteil and co-crtinrted with ms

Aroereeeten aoked whether Ehe crorram was e brord fiel reseerchrerram or sumort proa s if the rosults of the overations corried on tyewouid te

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rerorted to Hondmuarters. In thia connçebien,ssxest.znformet ond the Conference tht Yurogran vos of tio
natures: Tirst, an experimental progran to devclop the test tech
nioues and rcthods and; secondly, it vould involvo actual suprort
es required in the field. ethen stated thats
would make detailed retorts to Headquerters ard et the prtarnt tiro Cevss vere working on types of reports ito be
required of 111

5. t.erpointed out he recegnised in such a progrem as this there would te variableszand uucontrelled fectors wouldix. undouttedlycomplicatethe problem.alsopointed oub that expenses as well os operetional problems elso increased in the field.eroplied tosstatingthat every efort would bc macie to carry out-intelligent and controlled experimentel. work with rerorts beinr returncd bthat weuld help enalysis at Headquarters eshington. pointed out ns soen as rarrived in the field he would berin a study of all ierial end subjects avsilable, particulorly concontrating on grcups whetc sound experimental procosses could bo worked out.

6. Aserasked what is the torrot date of placing an ARriciorE Toen ineetessstatedat prcsent therewus nothing definite but, in general, it night, be essund that Security hoped to have a Tesm reedy by next sumer or certainly by l Soptenber 19b4.r stated at the preseut moment, we were prepared to send an AiTiChOKL Tean to eny plece in the world if ARTICHCt: wes required in support of operations.

7. atook up the metter of the aims and functions of the pregran and said he wished to state for the rocord that, àt the present time.his Division could not offer support previcuuly contemplated althoughvery carefully eplained thet, he approved of the work and weuld support this work as far os posnible. stated in this connection he would mekc a report to the Director of Security but wished to crplein it lorsonallj to the ARTiChuks Conference. zaadviscd, in generel, thet his cepabilities for providing medical surport. for AfrIChOkE Teams hed boen greatly reduced. lie stated that heretofers he had toon able to procure well-qualified H.D.s to carry out any preject, but. oving to the chenes in the Doctor's Jaraft. Aet end chanfes in the Depertront of Defenso requircnent for physicians, thic rich sourco of medicel. suprort hod evopornted. sestated thal coctors or poychiatrists to vork in the ARiIChülE progrer hed to be very carefuily serecned and that, with the atove-rontioned rrocurorout. problon, he felt he ceuld not produce doclors in support eercof at lcast at the present time but he was making avery effort to meet; this situetion. le stated he contemplated supplying doctors for the AiTIClCkE work out of various psychiatric tears which wouid Le

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thet thisrprogrem has not. as yet leenorproved by the Eucrot Conuaittee.

6. discusaod the project of utilizing traince voluntcers for experimentel work in AlTIClCts but said he wanted tg. sxpend the progrem end to include oporational and othdr Aconcy personnel who were foriliar aith operaticns nnd who cculRte checked egainst now trcinee voluntcors and act es cort of a "norm". hs felt that all. interestcd divisions such asrrond Security should be asked to contribute voluntcers. rr then went. on and stated thet as everyone knew this tn of work (chenical experincnts) has an element. of risk both as to the intercst it may arouse and the ectual possible injury or physical thrent to /gency personnel. Stated that the 7

would be an entirely proper bese and provide sounc cover for this work. stated he vould net vant to toke over thc prorrem but felt thefecilitics vere bettet for ccntrol. and would providc croater socurity than a safe house and edded thet this should be siven ccnsideration at the lighest level.

9. At this point,h pointeri out thet "trainoa" A. voluntcers can bo enployees who hove returred from overscus or Heedquarters personnel teking trninin: courses as well ": nrv people. ; Stated he felt those vhe had experience in A Agency operation rattors would bo very valuable and thet if ve broacened the scope of the whole progrem and includrda ewe ond rersonnel, it would be letter because of the vider experience of the personnel involved. At this peint,madri spoke in surport of r iden and al:ted tliat it vould not te limited to Tréining Division personnel only. A

10.  cormented thet many mcn in the/ a would be possible subjects in such a prorur.

11. rthon expleined that the locotien as rreposed A (safe house) originally vas not final and elso said thet consideretion could bo given top es a locetion for this work. C anes howover, stated he recornized theires hed meuy advontaces and egroed withj vicws that, there A vore risks involved and in any protier of this type the Agorey chould consider these mattera.

12. csucnt on to explain that thiel and he personelly for a lorg period of time hiad e very top-lovel working agreement with thefand that this relationship vas on

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an extremely corlial tesis end we weull be able to cot l00: support of this progran.

13. A short discussión followed of the possible use of facilities. It vas agreed thcse facilities presented so many advantazcous features plus a sound projoet cover thet this chould 1e consiered as the bost possible approach of the developmont of the progran. 三

1.Atthispoint,aeaRzhcther
in his opinion this matter should be takon un verbaly first with
DCI to detormine whether or not he would suprort such a progren
carried out in theestoted in his opinion this was
a good idea and it was unonimously proposed to first conult the
DCI orally for his opinioa and if thc DCI ansuered faverably to
then submit a project paper. rzetated he sould inforn aho would appreach the LCI. 15. After this,zgstatod le hed recently tolked
to edeand hnd tried to strighten cut ein hisaperoaches to the Agency. bitouesticnel
hiin relrtive theorogrem and,steted that Lhe son of
Seeoud be in the United Stotes in
the next weck or two. eerfstated he hed heard goasip that Sapeseeywhoisapsychintrist,oresa last year but was now conpletely recovcret.

15. At this point,  esked if there wao any A evidence currently available that the Reds were usinz ARTIClOkd or sinilar techniques. stated thot so far thore had boen no indication of Red use of chcricels in informotien obtained fron returned FCls. confirmed this an also stated thal reseorcù did not indicatc uac of clemicals in conncction with intorrogution or indoctrination althouchpointed cut there was a considerable ancunt of second and third-hand natorial which indiceted the Commists had uaed certain materialn. then stated he would make a requost to his own poople asking then to bring research along these lines up to dato.

17. then stated that he hed beon infored thal h vhontheoorle
had satie the oricinal contact in the Lsù mi ter, hed sceu p lroi:
of clippincs from vorious foreirn nowspapers in LhFolfice
which were eritical ofEsafor mking lSu aveilailo oniy 1e
countries ouiside the fron Curtein. sgaeTodvised the! 1

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thates will endoovor to obtain turtior intoractien on this fron these 1

18. abrourht cut aroin the question of the dofensive briefing of our personnel against enemy interrogetion. A discussion followed concerning methods of "baying timo", dolaring tactics and techniques and mothods of interfcrring xith Sovict interrogation methods, perticularly in the event of ser.

12. In thin connection,ebrocosed thet the A Director of:Security submit n collection roqucst, for informntion along these lines. In the discussion that followed, Sa stated he would take the matter up witheeand requested that all be prepared to discuss this problem at tho noxt . meeting-

20. Date of the next mecting was set at 17 Decomber l953 at 2:00 FH in tho S0 Conference Room.