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1. 合 of Itos met witnto discuss certain details of the trainingfor "Blucbird" operation.

2. outlined the problem as follous:

a. Can we nake an wnilling subject talk

b.  Can ve provent, our om agonts wdo fall into eneay hands fron disclosing information vital to us.

c. Can a man bo made to comnit.acts useful to us wder post-hypnotic suggestion

(1) Is there an accurate tost we can use to see if a man is uder post-iypnotic authority

d., Can ve condition our own people so they will not bo suhject to post-hypnotic sucgestion

2. The organization at present contsmplates 3-h teans conatituted as follows:

a. polygraph man (possibly chief)

b. Doctor

c. Technician to do recording

. (1) Fhotography

(2) Sound

(a) Tape recording ability

(b) Use of micropiones, ote.

d. Interpreter

3. There wonld also be a home tean or stafl over-ncad vhich would condluct:

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a. Rescarch in improved methods

b. Testing, of techniques

c. Training, of ner personnel

h. Tdhen dleseribed his ideas about Lhe nature of the program. It shouldi consist of

a. Traininr. in tho polygraph oporation.(3-h voeks). Tis would be follpacd rith 2-3 voeks practice in the usc of it in the polygraph testing activity of I& SS.

b. lypnotic techniques (1-2 wecks)

c. Intcrrogation

d. Origntation in Communist techniques

e. Orientation in substantive material likoly to be covered.

The whole program to take about threc months.

mhasized the need for practice here before a tean was to .be sent out.

a. They woud operate in English

b. They wouldl operate under controlled conditions

Our biggest current problom is to obtain suitable subjects.

H-B/6te covi briefly described the program ateeas under stewThe cover is a prorran in the use of drura to reduce the listed soie problems that must be considered immediately:

a. Vhat subtle wags are there of inoculation with drugs.

(1) itypo-spray (2) Gases (3) Food

b. Ihat is Uhc actual. state of knowlodze of hpnotism? c.g. Can we condition a man so that, he can "beat the polypraph"?

c. ihat are the possibilities of supersonic vibrations?

d. Vhat aro the possibilities of electric devices

(1) Shock machines B3 (2 sleep inducing machines such as used at

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e. Mhat. by-products of psychologicid rescarch exist that can be of help to us?

7. Our discussion dovoloped a definite need to find out wiat other ajoncies are doing, in this field; e.g.,

b. has supposcdly a rrogran formuestioning defectors al zwhat, methods are,they using? Tnat success with these mcthods? llave results becn verified, and if so how?

3. At the present. tine khiaself represents the major portion of Uhe ClA activity. thas designated sonc candidatos but they have not operated nor bccn fully treined.

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