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IOQUTUN FCR: Techaical Scrvices Stafr Chief, Cperations Staff, 0/sI MON

1. Atteched thore is en 0-3 roport comorning LSD, for your rototicn, which you ray not Lave ssen, raragraph 7 has sono interesting icplications and I wander whother you will vt to folloz-up on Lhen or ue chould tako action. lihen you have lsoked it crer, could you phono m abouò this?

20 Febrery 1ah

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0(1) Nk. (2) psartidchs

—Tis is cu isreshig hepat, partiulely pera I. Sce Smlueg a Loiyt wilt te sugesi thr coues te follwup.

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CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCYNATION REPORT

REPORT NO..00-8-72014

DATE DISTR. 26 JAN5

THIS IS UNEYALUATED INFORMATION

On 8 Dec 53 I had dinzer in Hev York City with who 1s nov, I helirve, the US representative or cnher-aceutice bouss. During the. course of the evening,. afank  fair scount of bourboa and led the coaversation. Ee has a curious and tiresose tandeney to lard all that he bes to say to ce vith flatery. Os this cccesioo he constmutly referrei-to a feirly recest article of nine vhich appeared in a sciestific perioiical asd the ispact of this article os pzirzzcological thiekies in Surge.. I do pot kmc whet the poiat,o this fattery sas; probably nethisg sore thss the fast that Ass sther call drsiiddual vac ?ss sace kis say ia the werld by gasciss oa vell tita geople. Perhzps this is Lov he coecplishes it.

trovght up the following tter in such a persistent way that I could pot koip vonicriss just vhat his zotives vere. At a previous teeting vith alzost a year esrlier in Vasiisgtos, he brcught op the saze ratter in very much the saze persistero vay. so far ro resdy oplanstion has oscurred to ze for his persistense oskor tkas that he is keonly.isterested in tte mster. After several drirks, he lauachei rathes rta jtly isto the subjeet: (this quotatios is accurate) "The Post Saist ir'secret' is thes iz vas rot the bread at all. For veezs the Fressh lsleraterics vith asalyses of bresd. Is vas not as erget, it vas a dilacrtressthiis-like corpqund." He referred kare X tcse to the vell-kasa sassse in Fresse vhere a sood cany tillegers 'or. Peisancd, so it vs siii, by crgot in the grain they csed to mke cra2. 1 ccked bia chon ta roceriot to the pecple 1 1e tes sot ia ho Lread, ho kcaliedwat vo go not toow." Eo revieved azat he said to e a yenr carlier id Werhiagton that he thouche the thols business tas a lnered expurimaat presussbly ty the Fresch Gavurrsist.

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1 telked further about LSD "We J are still very zuch intcrested in Lso." Be vent on to say, "one snall rcason I am kere / in te us/ is to dispose oour JSD." He said "if tar breaks out psr lEd vill disappenr."

I osked his casually if anyboiy else in Europe was interested in separating out the ersot allaloids. He said that they vere beins proluced by Te large prarceutical firu in.

I aszed if he had any new egents he night like rs to test. He znid, "cne of our priccipel interests is in searching for anisD antidote. He have a bros-LsD copound. In the valtzios mice at least it checks the IsD's action. Ve do zot yet kow about its effect in man, as to vhether it vill ast es an antidote to LsD." rerzrks on this subject vere very iateresting to ca because of a conversation I had in!' Septecber 1953 vith a pharracological associate I hed asked the sans questica of nis during our zeetiag and he stated that they hpd a nev lysergic acid darivative but that it had not turned out. well. obviously did not vish to talk about. the subject.: It is possible, horever, that the bro=-LsD cospoid zentioned by is the sare as the oze referred to so vaguely by

It is interesting to speculete about the work of the ercot field. is e very copetent scientist and he and his and his vife in rife originally used to collavorate on experireats on the ergot derivatives. His wife vas forserly in love with a rather influential Comunist in . This mas,.is, I believe, cow Ccsd bat epparently his philosophy rude a very desp ipression on ker aad ber presert beliefs based on this Jorzer assosistiop kave coctributed I belieye to the break-up of her miiegs to -who is csrtainly no Couuist. It vculd be interestins to ks vasthes or not :wife has contisued ber Caunist associstions nad also vhether or not inforatict on ker busbard's expericepts bavs been Toased cn,through coy such esscciaticss.