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Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

DATE: 28 May 1952

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1. On Friday, 23 May 1952, the writer and had a brief discussion along Artichoke lines withh wno is at present asgisting Dith lectures in the

2. S1nce Thad previously o.k.ed conversation with the writer and talked with] lin more or less general terms concerning the use of chemicals, drugs, hypnosis, and other techniques in the extracting of information from recalcitrant persons. P stated that in his police work he had, upon quite a number of occasions, worked with individuals using the above mentioned techniques; some with success and some withoutesuccess. He also stated he had a great many friends in the farea who were practicing paychiatrists and knew that they had employed narco-analysis and he thought hypnoanalysis andxnethoagt in connection with their professional work. seemed very interested and quite willing to assist the Artichoke work and stated he was returning Saturday, 2h May l952, to and would start inmediately-to assemble.any information he had or could obtain along these lines.

3.1 and the writer made it very clear to the secrecy'of the work and Fassured them that he understood the security aspects involved, but,due to his professional work in he could make inquiráes without in any way showing an unusual interest.

b. stated that he would return to Washington somewhere " 7 near the lst of July and he would get in touch with and the writer and discuss any items of interest which he had obtained in the meantime. He also promised to ascertain whether or not there were any individuals in his area that were outstanding along Artichoke type work and-,if so, get sufficient background on them so that they-could be interviewed or possibly used by the writer.

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