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FORM NO. SEP 1946 36-8

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GELERAL:

At Hew York, Now York

On 28 Hovenber 1953, at 7:50 a.m., ROEERT V. LASHERCOK was interviewed in Roaa L88, Statler Hotel, 33rd Street and Seventh Avenue.

Mr. LASHERCOK advised that the SUBJEC was a biochezist and Agency erployee assigned to a project at Ca Dietrick, Frederick, Karyland. He stated that a Coicnel VT:CZT RUnET is Comanding Officer of the SUEJECT's group. LASTCCK indicated that he has kncw the SUBJECT for about one year. He stated that the SUBJECT had been suffering frcn "persecuticn delusions and guilt feelings." He indicated that these delusicns and guilt feelines wors not in arzas rxlated to the SUEJECT's wprk. LISHERCCK statad that the SLEJECT had roccived a medical discharze frc the =ilitary service bacauso of ulcers and was draving Cisability pay. It was the SUBJECT's fe:ling that he actually had no ulcers and that he therefore believed that he vas choatine the governrent. In this cornecticn, LASHERCCK stated that the SUEJECT would listen.to ro reasonatie solution to his problen. ie stated that Colonel RUiET had tecone aware of SUSJECT's condition and suggested that sonothing be cone about it. As a result, en 2h Novanber l953, Colcnel RiET, LASHERCON and the SUEJECT cane to New York to consuit with Dr. HLROLD A. ARUSOI who has offices at 133 East 5Eth Street, New York City, and who resides at L7 Neu Strest, Cold Sprine Harbor, Long Island, liew York. The three consulted wit Dr. AERuSoN on 2h and 25 Novamber 1953 and on the night of 25 Novetbor all three went. to the Hotel Statler with the intenticn of daparting for Washingten, D.C., at about 7:30 a.., 26 Novenber. At about 5:30 a.m., Colcnel RUWET and LASIERCCK arose and were unable to find the SUBJECT. They proceeded to the lctby of the hotel and found SJECT there. The SUBJECT told then that he had been "waudering around for a while."

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He also told the that ho had torn up what paner noney he had and various pepers in his wallet. Ho also indicated that he then threw the wallet auay, He was unatle to indicato where he had discarded tho above articles. Colonel FUnET, lir. LASHERCGK and the SUIJECT returned to ashington, D.C., on the morning of the 26th. The SUB JECT's ccudition was such that it was considored advisatlo that they return to ew York iediately ior a-ther ccnsaltation with Dr. APRSON, Colcnel RUwET renained in Washingten and LSHEROOK and the SUBJECT returned to New York, arziving at La Guardia Airport at about 2:00 p.m. They proceeded by tad to Dr. AERASCl's residence, L7 New Strcet, Hintinaton, Long Island, arriving there at about b:00 p.n. After about a one-hour consultaticn, LisHcok and the SUBJECT want to the Anchorare Guest House at Cold Spring Harbor where they remained overnisht. At about 8:15 a.m. on 27 oveber 1953, Dr. ARAISC nst LASEROCX and ths SUBJECT at the Anchorage Cuest House and drove ther to Dr. AERv.SCl's Hew York offico at 133 East S8th Streat. There was a further ccnfereneo in which all three participated and it was Dr. ASGl's sucrestion that the SU3JECT go to a hospital for treatment. LASHEROOK stated that SUEJECT indicatad that this was afrecabie to hia. Dr. AEL.SC! then contacted the Chestnut Lcdge at Rockville, Karyland, and mado. artengements for the SUSJECT, acccpanied by LASHECCK, to ce thore at noon on 28 Novenber l953. The Chestnut Lodre was decided upcn after talephonic discussion between Dr.. ARRSON! and Dr. COTTLIEE. LASHERCOK identified Dr. GOTLIES as Dr. SID GOTTLIEB,' his (LASHERCCK's) supervisor. After the ccnference and on the afteroon or 27 lovember l953, LASHERCOK and the SUEJECT retumnad to the Hotal Statler and checked in. They watched televisica for a whils and then vent to ths hotel cocktail lcunge whare each had two martinis. They later had dinner in the hotel's nain dining rocm. LASHsROCK stated that no other alccholic beverages were consuned by either of thsa. LAsHERCCK stated that at this tine, the SUBJECT appeared cheerful and in a ccnsiderably better mood. Shortly before l0:CO p.., the SUBJECT telephoned his wife. Be stated that the SU3jECT appeared reluctant to discuss his condition with his wife. LASHBRCOK added that the SUaJECT's wife had had psychiatric .care early this year. At about l0:0O p.m., the SUBJECT and LASHECCK returned to their roon. They had Rocm fl018 which centained twin beds. LAShRCC% stated that shortly after 10:00 p.n. he called Colonel EEr who agreed to moet then at .the plane. arrival\_ at Washington at about 9:30 a.., 28 Novomber 1953. LASR00K and tho SUBIECT watched television in their room until about 1l:00 p.

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LASHERCOK stated that the SU3JECT remarked that he felt more relaxed than he had for a lcng tine. Eoth then went to bed and LASHERGCK fell aslesp. LASHERCCK stated that Fecalling that tho SURJEC had "disappeared" the day bezore, he, Lassssook, took the bed nearest the door. Laskco stated that he was unable to fix the tine definitely tut that about 2:30 a.a. he heard a loud crash of glass. He said that the SuSJECT had jrped through the vindow shade and the glass and landed on the sidavalk of Seventh Avenue, across ths street fron Pennsylvania Staticn. He repeated that his estinate of the tixe vas not accurats and that "that tine may be way off." He stated that be inradiately, and befors roportins to anyone else, telephonically contacted his susrior, r. COTTLIB, at his home, telephone VIEIA (Virginia) 15ilu, and told hin what had happened. He then reported the incident to the hotel telephone operator. LAsscCK said that imrodiately afterward he called Dr. AssSC who "wanted to be kept out of the thing ccmpletely." Shortly aftervard, sone unifored police officers and hotel aployees caze to his rooa. LASicCć stated that he did not.obtain their nazs. He told the police at thit tine that he did not know why the SUEJECT had juped and indicated to them that he knew the SUaJECT swrsered froa ulcors. The unifered police made a search of the roon and fomd no papers balonging to tho SUEJECT, with one exception. LASERCCK said that this was a letter to the SUEJECT fran the Veterans Aciinistratien concering a lapsed insurance policy. This was in LAsHERco%'s suitcase. He exolained that on Thursday night, the 26th, the SUEJEC had thrcwn the letter into a waste paper basket and LASrrock had retrieved it. ahile the police wore in the room, Dr. ApRuSC! called back and incated that he had changed his mind about wantins to be "left out corpletely," and vould assist. LAShERCOK stated thit no one exhibited any curiosity about this cnll. Ha stated that he observed that curins the first call to Dr. Asasol the doctor's voice was loud and clear. Durins the second call, he could not hear the doctor very well and speculated on the possibility of a tapped wire. Following a sezrch of the roos by the polics, LASHERock was requested to ro to the police staticn house at l33 liest 30th Street to idaitisy the bocy. At ths station house, he was interviawed by Detectives LRD and HULLEE of the lLth Detective Squad. The detective asked hin to turn out his pockets. LaSkERCCK stated that among his papers there were airline tickets for the trips that he and the SUB-JECT had taken within the past few days and a receipt on plain wàite paper for 01l5.00 cated 25 November 1953 and simed by JO: HULHOLLAND. The receipt indicated "Advznce for Travel to Cricago." There was also a post card with Colonel RvaET's accress appearing as follows: "Vince Ruwet, l00k Rosemont Avenue, phone Nonunent 3-369." LAsueR00X said that his papers included soae hotel bills and also a paper with the

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address of the Chestnut Lodze in Rockville, Karyland. This lattor paper was rotained by Detsctives ARD and KiLLE. Anong LASHEROCK's papers exarined bs the. datoctives, there was one which centained Dr. AbRASOl's office and home addresses and telephone nunbers.

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LASkERcoK statod that this inroration was coniod by Detectives WARD and KULiEE and thoy askad hin who G.W., H.H. and J.N. were. He indicated tiat ha prefsrrod not to identify thon bacause of secirity reasons and the matter was pressed no furthor br the detectives. LASHEcck idmntified O.v. to the reportinz agent as another royerment official. He

LASHERCOK idontified J.M. as J., as

Diring the interview by the detectives, LAsiÉaccK stated that he told thar he was enployed by the Dopartment of Defonse and exhibited his AGO card for identification. He said that the police requested no details concering his superior or office location and that he voluntaored none. He gava the detectives his Califomia home address, Mll5 Kontrose, South Pasadona, which is where his parents reside, and his Washington, D.C., address, Apt. 109, l633 Nev Hapshire li.W. LASHBROOK stated that he told the deteotives that the SU3JECT was employad at Ca Diatrick, Fredorick, Maryland, that Colcnel ViCET RUdET was the person there to be notisied and that the SUEJECT came to llew York with the kowladge of Colonel RUET and SUBECT's wife. LASHBRCOK stated that he gave no details of SUSECT's eplopment at Camp Dietrick. He indicatad to tha police that he, LiSHERCOK, was stationed in Nashington, D.C. LASrERcOx stated that the detzctives indicatad that he had been sonewhat uncooperative when questioned by the police in his roon at the hotel. LAskBcci said that he explainsd to the datectives that bocause of ths nature of SUSJEcT's illness he

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was reluctant to discuss it before so nany people. Ho indicated to the .dotectives that he cane to lev York witn the SUaCCr to see Dr. ABRWSOi and tant tho SUEJECT was Seeing Ir. AERLSC: because er mental illness. LASHEnocK told the detoctives that he was to accospaty the SUBJECT to Chestnut Lodre at Rociville; Naryland. LASHEROCN stated that the detzctives thon exarined his wallet. The wallet contiined his A00 pass, h95652, and an Ay Chonical Conter pass, fC750. The wallet also contnined a saall slis of sapor with about thirty urelated letters of ths alphabat. LASHEEOOk eoiained to the ropcrting agent that this was a coded saie conbination. He stated that the police passed right ovor thess pacors and' did not copy then. The wallet also contained Azency pass 7E-2Ll with Sarial FCll6832lE29. This pass indicated "If found return to Box l925, Lashinaton, D.C." This pass was not quostioned by the detectives snd not icontiriad or explained ty LaskERoCk. Ho indicated also that ne advised tho Police Dopartaons that he, LASHERCoK, shared his apartaint in Washington, D.C., with EDvDI SPoSHEL. At tho conclusion o th? intorview by the detectives, all papers wore returned to LASHERCCX and thay assirad hia that thore vould bo no publicity enanatins fron the Police Departront rerardin? tho incident. They requested that betreen the hours o5 9:00 a.. and 12:00 noon on 28 Novonb 1953, LA3HER00 identify SUEJECT's body at the Norgue, Bellevue Hospital, 2Sth Street and First Avenus, Heu York City. They further indicated that there would not be any further need to question hin.

The interview was concludad at about 9:30 a.a. and reporting agant advised LAShERCOK that hs would contact hin at the Statler Hotei when LASHEROOK returned fron the Bellevue Norgue.

At about 12:30 p.n., reporting agent and LASHERoOX met at tha Hotel Statler. LASriCok advised that he had made the offisial identification of SUEJIcT's body and that funeral arranganonts would be made by Colonel RLhIT or the SUejEcT's vife. Reportine agent remained with LASHRCCK until S:O0 p.m. LASHRCOK made a nunbar or phone.calls\_during zhe. artornoon ind other than exhibiting fatigue, appeared copletaly ccposed. He advised that pirsuant to inst-uctiors received fror Lr. CoTL3 he was to meet with Dr. AESCy at 9:15 p.a. on the 28th to obtain a report fros . ASuiSCi which he was to take to washington.

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At 5:00 p.m., Agent L P.T., Jr., aet reporting agent and ROBRT LASHERCCx at Pennsylvania Station at New York City. Parsuant to instructicns, Asent MALT P.T. accopanied LASERCCK throughout tho ovening and rocorting agent departed. LiSHpock indicatad that ho would like to take a walk and go to a aovie until his 9:l5 p.a. appointnmt. After seeing "Cease Fire" at the Citarion (hhth Stroet and Broacray) and dirner at Nc Ginnis's Rastaurant (Leth Street and Broaay), LASCOK and Agent LT P.T. wlkad to 133 East 15Eth Street, New York, N. Y., arriving there at about 9:15 p.n. Upon arriving there, they procasded to Roon 3lo. LAscok incicated that he preferrsd to have the azent wait in ths recepticn roon while he spoke to Dr. AERUISOH. LASHESOCK introCced the agent to Dr. AERLSON without the use of the agont's nane and indicated that he was a friend accompanyinz hin in an advisory capacity. mile remaining in the outer office, A-ent Silz P.T. ovirheard a portion of the conversation between LASHEROO% and Dr. AERaSC. This conversation is sumarized as follows: 1

Upon closing the door, Dr. AERASO! and LASHERCCK started a discussion relatinz to security. Dr. AavisCi vas heard to coment to LASHBRCCK that he was worrisd about hin. LASHERCCK then stated that he thought it vould be bost if he dictated to Dr. AzSO. Prior to his dictation, they listened to potions of a convarsation which had baan recordzd. Althouh nanes ware not mentionod, it is believed that the recording represented an intartiov betvzen a physician or psychiatrist and the SUEJECT. Followinr this, LASHERCCK started to dictate to Dr. AELSC conceming the SUEiECT. This relsted to LASPERCOK's observaticns of SUEJECT's bahaviour prior to SUBJECT's demise. LASHERCOK told D. A2RASOI that SUEJ3C had told him that as far back as March l953 SU3JECT's wife had suggested that SUBJECT see a doctor because or his depressed condition. LASHERCCK further stated that it was his iression that SuEjEcT had delusions and was srfforing frea guilt and persecution comlexes. LAshEtock mentioned that SUBJEoT thought he was stcaling soney fron the government. LASHRCCK also indicated to Dr. AERLSI that SUBJECT had told him that he thought the agency group was putting bensedrine in his coffee to keep hin awake. Toward the close of his dictaticn, LasHERCcK indicated.that he had had iner at the hotal with the SUZJECT at which tina the SUSJECT had said to hin, "I hava't felt better for a lag tine." Savaral tines during LisHERock's ictaticn, the dictation was interrptad and he and Dr. ARusCl listened to portions of tho tape recordisg.

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Agent WALTER P.T. heard LASHERCOK and Dr. ABRUISCI leave the roo closest to the outsids offics and enter another roon. At this point, LASHFCCK and Dr. AERUSCI were apparently havine a drink. r. AsRWSOl was heard to ronark to LASHERcck thit ha was "woried as to whether or not the doal was in jecparcy" and that ha thought "that the cperaticn wis darFarous and thit the whole deal should be reanalyzed." LASRRCCK and Dr. AERASCN rejoined Arent MLT P.T. in tho outer office at about 10:3O p.. Dr. AERU.SCt accompanied LASH-BROOK and the afent to the stroet. On the way down, . AERuSC spoke to LASHERCCK using modical tars which LASHERCCK apparently understood quite well. Agent WLT P.T. got the impressicn that LASHBRCOK is a doctor or scientist.

Agent WALTR P.T. and LASHZROCK took a tad fron 5Eth Street and Park Avanue to Pennsylvania Station tmere LAsrERcok boarded the 12:10 a.. trainr for asnington, D.C., at 1l:00 p..

On 2 Dacember 1953, Agant JOHl D.P. obtained Cartifieate o? Death relating to the SUBlECT frcn the New York City Departent of Health, Bureau of Records and Statistics. This certificate is attachsd and marked Exhibit A.

On 2 Deceber 1953,. Agent JREIAH J.N. examined "HOtS MPORTANT El NEDICIE," Second Sditien, 1952, at the New York Pablic Library, L2nd Strest and Fisth Avenue. Inis book contained the follcwing inforation about D. HOLD AERuSON:

"AERSCN, Harold Alexander, Physician; born Novenber 27, 1899, Hew York, N.Y.; son of F. Samuel and K. Rose (Richard) Abranson; educated at Colubia Univ., A3 1920, MD 1923; maried Earbara Hoaland Saith, June 26, 1933; Children - Alexandra Hcviand, Harold Alaxander, Barbara Howland, Hoviand Wiison. Enraged in the practice of Nedicine since l525. laticnal Resoarch Council Fellow, Zaiser Wilhela Institute for Phys. Chenistry and Reotrochenistry, Berlin, l926-27. Instructor in Medicine, Jonn Hopkins University, l929-31. Associate in sacteriology and Imunolosy, Corell Iniversiey, lc3h-35. Assistant Professor or Phoysiolcgy, Coluabia University, since l935. Associate Physician and Chief of Allery Cinic, Nt. Sinai Hospital. Escovered and-daveloped electrophoretic and ultracentriiugal isolaticn c nolecules causing hay fever; elec. charge of blood cells; electrolbsretic (sic) skin tasts and thorapy with pollen extracts; mechanis o allergic skin reactions, nature of ionizing groups of protein suriaces. Initiated (lgh2) and.

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dirccted penicillin aerosel theravy for lunrs for Tech. Div., Chea. Har Sorvice, World War I. Assistant Chief and Chief, Dafense Katoriel. Fellov: N.Y. Acadeny of ledicine; Awrican Collzze of Mllernists (Pres. 195l-52). lienbor: Anorican Assn. for Advancznent of Science; Anerican Acaday of Aller; Amrican Psychosomatic Socioty; N.Y. Acadeny of Science; .í. Allery Society (Pres. 195l-52); Atorican Socicty of Cartified Allergists; Aaerican Society o Siolosical Chenists; .I. County lecal Society; Society for Egerimental Biol. and Ned.; Society er Lavestizative Dermatolo; Alpha Cnega Alpha; Epsilon Chi; Menber, Eoard of Tristees, Biolozy Lab., Cold Spring Harbor, L.I. Avarded Neyarhor Prise, Colurbia !odical College, 192l; Stovens Triemnial Prise, Col. Cniv., l935; Legion of Narit, World War II. Nenber o? Editorial Eord: Annals of Allzrg; Psychosoratic liedicine; Arcnives of Allergy and Iunolo. Lt.-Col., Med. Corps Ras. (inaozive). Ras: Cold Spring Harbor, .. Off: l33 East 58 St., .Y. 22, l.Y."

The MEDICAL DERECTRY CF HEJ YORK STATE, VoluTe XLIV, 1951, published by the Nedieal Sosiety of ths State of Neu Tork, 292 liadison Avenue, leu'York, . Y., indicatis that Dr. AERASCH's practice is linited to Lmunolog and Alorg.

On 2 Decenber 1953, Agent JAES J.NcC. ccntacted Dotectives JAMES WARD and DAVID HULLES at the lbth Police Precinct, 138 West 30th Street, New York City. Dateotivs WaD mado available the comolaint report in SUluEoT's case which indicated the date and time as 28 Noverber 1953 at 3:50 a.m. The cas? nmber was l12512h and the crine DA (Death on Arrival). The place of occurence was noted to be the hotel Statler, Room l0lEk, 33rd Street and Savanth Ávanue, and the case was handled by Detective JANES WARD, lLth Squad.

The details as reported by coplainant Patrolman GUAsTErESTE, Shield 1626, described tha SU3JEC as "uninom, N--L2-5:10-170 lbs.- blue eyes-blonde hair-partly bald-vearing white underwear. Registered in hotel under ne of of Route 5, Fredarick, Nd. Jumpsd or fell through windoy in roon at place of occurenco and pronounced DCA by Dr. DEoSD:O of St. Vincent's Hospital. Deccased found by Assistant Nanager FITZSkALD of Statler Hotel. Eody, to station house."

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Report of Lnvestigating Officer dated 11l/28/53 stated that .the investigaticn was bannr coneictec and that in view of the facts set forth it was requested that ths case rerain active.

A supplementary coaplaint report concering the case indicated that the crins or offense reported was now listed as DA (Suicide). The status of the case was indicated as-Closed  (with written report).

The repcrt of the investigation dated 30 lovamber l953 reflected the following: 2

"SUBJECT-RE: EIVESTIGADIC CONDGCTED, IDEITITY OF DECEASED, CAUSE OF DEATH AID DISPGSITICN OF EODI.

1. Voon boine notifisd of this occwrerce, imodiately visited place of occurence, Statler Hotel, whore a thorourh investigation was conducted. At this tine, it was disclosad that ths deceased had rogistered in Pa. fl018A on lovanbar 26, 1933, uncer the naze of FX 3. Fredarick, Md., with another parson naned RoERT LiShERCOk, Washingten, D.C., Apt. l09, who identified hinself as a consultont chosist eloyed by the kar Denartnant, Defense Eureau, Adiutant's Gmnoral's Cffice, Washington, D.C., undor Serial sCll6S32l829 =lso had picture on card with nunber 22kb. LAsHmRcoK at this time disclosed that the deceased was one FAK 3. 3 Ca Datrick, Fredorick, Naryland, a bacteriologist, eolcTed ty tae sane branch of the govenent as hé (LaSrECCK). Be further statad chat tha ceceased with hinsalr and a Colcnel VixCum RUwET, attached to Cap Detriok, Fredarick, Kd., cane to lew York City an Nlovenber 2k, 1953, for tie purpose of naving the deceaced exanined by a Dr. EALD AESO, 133 E. 5th St., N..C. (PL 3-8338), as he was sufferinr fron a nental ailrant. They renzined in ll.Y.C. until the norning of Novonber 26, 1953, rogisterod at the Statler lotal, Cring which tine the deceased was exemined by ths doszr on tuo occassiens and on the morine of November 26, 1953, LisHErck, with tha deceased, returned to Now York City and rogistered in the Statler Hotel. They again visited the aforzmenticned doctor and as a result of this visit the deceased was advised to enter a sanitariu ≈ he was suffering fron severe psychosis and illusicns. At this tine, srairents xere made for the deceased to enter the Chastnut Lódga, Rmkviilo, Kd., undar the supervisicn of a Dr. F0RT. On the evenine Novcmber 27, l953, the deceased in the ccpany of LASHERcCK had er in the Cafe Rouge of the Statler Eotaland retunod to their roa at approxizately9:30 p.a.

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looked at television for approximately 1 hour and then proceeded to go to sleep. At approxtely 3:20 a.. on 7lovaber 2E, 1953, LiSECOx stated that hae heard a crash of glass which avakened hin and pen turnirg on the lirht he observed that tha dsceasod wus not in his bod and that the wincow o the roon leacing out to 7th Avenus was broken. Ya then called the cparitcr of the hotel and at this tize he learéd that had juped out of the wizdox.

"2. The assigned iodiately checked on the above facts rolated by LASHCOK and they were verified by D. HARCLD AERC.SC and Colonel VTCT RUET.

"3. Due to the importanco of the positions held by the deceased and LASHRcCK with the U.S, Govemnent, tho facts in this case were related to F.3.I. Agent GERGS DALZI (by telephone).

h. Cn llovonber 2ê, 1953, autopsy persormed on bos of deceased by Assistant Kedical Euniner DI Ki0 and as a result of sane it was disclosed that doath resulted fron nultiple fractures.

"5: Cn lovenber 28, 1953, boty of the deceased claized by his wife ALICE and delivered ty Frank E. Capbell, undortakers, l076 Hadison Ave., nder rehoval E7, for burial. CASS CLOSED."

This report vas subritted and signed by Datective JAl.ES W. WARD, Shield #338, lhth Squad.

Before reviewing the report, Detective DaVID MULL, who had reported to cuty on the evoning shift a little earlier than Datective WRD, engeged in convarsation with Agent JAES J. NcC. then MULLEE was contacted and advised that the asent was intarested in obtaining the repert conceming SUEJECT's case, KULL advised that he was Detective üiD's partner cn the case. He stated that HARD was rasponsible for the report and he personally discussed the case and said that RCET LASHECOK, vho was th the SUEECT, had been quite uncooperativo and he and Detectivo RD had to bring LASH-BRooX to the statien house before he would answer other questions. Datective MULlES said that they were first very susoicious that LASH-BROOK and the SUEJICT zight have been engaged in some hcnosexzal affair and also were mulling over in their minds the possibility that the case was actually a honocide. He further stated that they were considoring

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the possibility that SUEJECT and LASHEROCK were involvd in sone ccmittee hearing for they wrs awire that Sen. Kc Carthy's Comittee was in town around this tire. He stated that the case of DUcolii of the State Dipartnont cane to nind and as a result they cslled the FBI to see whetha or not they kew anything, about sither LASHCCK or the SLEJEO. About this time, Dotective Jas SaD appeared and he norz or less conried what Datective MLLEE had said. He advised trat LASHERGCK was uncooperative and it was "like pulling teoth to get anything out of hin." He said that thoy secured Dr. AEuiscH's name fron the hotel cperator who apparently had intarcepted LAEHECCR's call to Dr. AEPMiSCl and he continued by stating that he could not telieve anything could be so secretive that Lasacck would have baen justified in being so uncooperative. He acvised that he had boen in tcuch with an F.P.I. arent (whon Detectiva MTLLE thou-ht was naned lic SHciE) whon he, Detectiva WARD, did not identisy, and who was equally unbelieving and had exressed the opinicn .that he did not kmox of any goverrrent work so confidential as to justify a lack of cooperation with police oficials.

After this discussion, Detectivs W?D made available report. set forth above and when tae report was returned to hin, in answar to a qusry as to whother the FbI vas still interested in the case he stated that he believed they were doing further checking into the background of LASHEECOK.

Detactives HRD and HULLE advised.that the SUBJECT's case had been given little pablicity but this was not because the reporters were not intorested in the case at the time that it happened, but rather that none of tho nors Lortant lew York nexspapers have been published since the incident ocourred. Thoy said that reporters had been around the staticn house trying to get details on the story on the day it happened but advised shat after twanty-four hours news stories lose their valus.

Detectives WARD and MULLES vare fully cocperative and advised that they would be willing to give further help if it ware desired.

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