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SUNJECT: ARTICHOKE Conference H- B/3

On 2. 1areh 1993 iler (leter intervicsed in conncction tith tho Tho rcason [or this visit, yas that the Feerle intend cosaihly to use Cin an operation Pand vish to find out whother or not--

1. !e. had too much lnoaledge. from a mcdical point of vicu (arntsia, tosares, techniques, dnnrs, ote.) fron our previous ARTIChOkL work: and

2. Fron a scenrity poini efsiea could he civ: toe mci inconation to f ho cold out directly to thom.

2. expresned the prefessional opinion insofar co the L TIcliCKE vork in June 1952 uas concerned that s would net have any valuable ka ulodge of Mhe AlTICliOkE tochniques. lfe steted tha! in his opinion a s telioved he uns iven a medical trcatnent and What questions asked of hint uere of a neiical nature and nol pure interrogation.

Szeemrther stated Uhat he felt that in considerablo part sg wonld have total amnesia Tor mnch that went on during June vhen ficokE treatnent vas applied. le alse stated he tould have no knowledgo of thorchericsis, techniques, rersonalities, nte. that iculd leofvalnc Lo seir he cold out. In connestion with thc goe trip in Aurust 4952 eTstated he helicvedAase: voud Inev that he hed been sugjocted to drugs sinco his hohavior vas not normal and sgrhinself is an intellirent, shreudl, hard-core apent. Lmc. aktated M vould not rake any difference any vay sihce "vas not asked pertinenò or intolligence-tyo questiens an! certAinly wotld have no kanotledre of chenicals riven :ince Lhuoy vere put in colfec, heer, and in his fool.

stated he felt, fron a medical point of ,vica,
thoro uculd to no real harn in usingCnekseron another onerabior and
that   cold out to eso, he conld rive then no truly
valuablò infommation and if ho did give Them infomtion, tho inicmmation
would do no more than confuse then sinceer-rter Could rive no
factual dotails. 2

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\- 5. In cornection with the slatoments made by Chere he stated he had been civen drucs Ter interrortien,a xprosscd the oninion thatteer.ase rocorninod Lhe fact that he was riven-choricals dirise ther msprocess tut that ne would have very little other information and he felt thet 联strtenonto were simuly dosigned to sorve hia oun ends ank wuro based on an intolligent mess and not much more.

Lresarusedstated that it wonld be intorestin if
other hoedquartersporsons were viaitinys
and. try to find out by subtle qucstions just what ervenered
of lha June ARTIclio tor: and wiat his vieus vere on the Aunst-Scpierher Pxperirentation.

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