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On19 January 1954 between 2:00 and5:00 FM, and the writer talked with four contacts who have been cleared'to the Secret level in connoction with the ARTICHOKE work. Set' out below is.avery.brief,sumary ofthe discussions and the results,thereof.

wno was interviewed jointly.wit see below) wes extremely co-operative;
offered the facilities of. the library; and offored!
to assist'in ihe identification of rare mushrooms
if ever'necessary. Eso stated-he
would talk.to other specialists at and
attempt to arrange ways and means to grow mush
rooms or prepare mushrooms "unofficielly" for
possible future\_use in connection with the ARTI-
CHOKE.program Cated he felt.that
there was a great deal of informationmissing in
tonnectionwithtoxic qualitiesof the mushroom
family.and he waswell aware of:use made by,certaii
Soviet peoples in certain.types of. muahroom intoxi cation. felt that considerablework
could be-done in;tnis direction and urged and
recommended that reseerch be extended, and to:include particularly contact. with lready-cleared) isia close working associate and by profession is both a botanistaid Lycologist attached to Tas noted above, was interviewed with andsupportedentirely the viows of personally

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collect toxic species and personally research .sources aveilable to hin for rare and littleknown types of mushrooms having toxic qualitie's of interest to ARTICHOKE.. a

to us by P and other specialists in biology and plant collection. proved an exceptionally interesting person nd in the future will be an undoubtedly useful contact. has treveled, aloverthe world collectiig plants for

s opinion, the ARTICHOKE
field has nevereen properly explored insofer as
little-known narcotic plants end shrubs are.conted, e number of years ago
cerned. for a grant
he aaked of twenty million dollers to make a study of
medicinal plants of all types in the Western stated this enormous re-Hemisphere. in principal quest wes approved by but was turned down when it was discovered that government agencies of necessity would become inpromised that he volved in this work. would immediately write to individuals he knew, without disclosing Agency interest, and set up con-
tactstand request advice in'collection of material. in addition, requested the clearance of certein individuals who he steted would be of great help in this work end promised when these individua were cleared;he would see to it that the necessary co-operation was forthcoming. Furthermore Surned' over the use of his extremely valuable library containing rar a considerable amount of and gave, t oricinal material along lines of interest to

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contacted, who is e specialist in the obtaining of and propegating of certain botani-. cals, can be of great assistance in the ARTICHOKE work. who was seen very late in the day, proved to be very enthusiastic and offered every possible assistance both in collection and growth ,of. botanicals. Since 3088 leaving sstthe following day, time was very short and he asked Brand the writer to return as soon as arrangements could be made and he could work out certain ideas he had regarding contacts.and botanical collections along ARTICHOKE lines. A report will,begubmitted on subssquent) interviews withe:

was one o tne inaiviquas wnom p, endorsed and recommended in
connection with the ARTICHOkE work. proved entirely
sympathetic and made numerous suggestions anc immediately produced
information of value in this work. very definitely
gupported the idea of extensive work in the ARTICHOKE field and
stated efforts should be made to carry out experimentation on human
ibeings through the use of prison facilities or hospitals, preferably
close.to. Washington where the work could be observed properly. atated thst some.of his work has been carried out in
certein experimentation at. and
he thought that would be holpful
and co-operateinthis work. ated if funds could be
made available,his organizetion wouid support andcarry out researt
alongithe lines of ARTICHOKE which would furnish a perfect natural
cover for this work. rstated he, would immediately begin
research alongthese lines and requested fand the
writer to have a conference next week with him and his associateg fis clesrad and this conference wi be arranged as soon as
possible.)3 Cequested that certainother individuals
be cleared:to facilitats-this work. and stated thet hewould
direct his associates to research along certain lines of interest to, uswithoutdisclosingAgency.interest.