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Chief,. Security Research Staff

FRoM : Chief, Technical Branch

syBjeCt: Interview vith Cleared Contacts.

1.On Wednesday, 27 January 1954, between 9:30 and 10:30 Ali, and the writer talked vith and A in ccnnection with AnliChOkE work. Set out below is a very brief swwary of the discussion and results thereof:

and Both men wore strongly recomened to the ARTICHOKE program by

C and the writer, introduced who had been previously contacted by Fand requosted that the A writer again explain, in general .terms,, the problems of. the ARTICHOKE program. After this had been done, and both agreed that such a study should have been made alony time ago and they would co-operate fully in an -effort to discover chemicals or drugs of use to ARTICHOKE-type work. ho had previously
AC given echnical leads, again brourht up the subject of lysergic acid and pronised that he an tvould examine -this matter with particular reference to thie interest in ccrtain medicincs vhich vere closely related to ergot and errot derivatives. stated that actually the does not get by-products but quite often thcy received information regarding new discoveries and chianges in formulas which would undoubtedly be of interest to us. lie stated thathe vould re-examine his contacts with the various chemical and drut houses in the lnited States and would give us the benefit of his thoughts in this matter in the near future.

C the chemical houses that are doing advanced work in psycho-chemistry 1.4 stated he and buld attempt to find out and attempt to find out the names of the best researchers in this , field. This information, they promised, would be given to us as soon as possible.

stated he had talkcd with and had again displayed unusual cnthusiasm in this connection anu stated he hoped his Stalf would produce results of interest along ARTICHOKE lines.

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be approached since his Staff had done a cònsidcrable amount of work along these lines and had good labs and exceptionally tõod library facilities particularly in connection with narcotic drugs. is in the procoss of being cleared and will be contacted as soon as official clearance has been received by this Brančh.)\_