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Hr. J. R. Alerti, lavy Losignca Lt. Cdr. Herlonkurg, lavy Altornto Col. Llogd E. Gould, Air Forco Designce Lt, Cal. Killin H. Souricrs, Any Dosigrco

l. Dr,es rcvicued tho dovelcnont of the Project tithin CIh
This progren ues urdértakon beccuse it becare evident that scze reisures
must bo token to prorida protcction for ar porsonol against Sovist
interregation technicuos. Cecoordetions vere mods to Ilr. Dullcs, thero
fore, that a high priority progrea be ostablished on this subjcct. Te
progrn tas cceopted ty kr. Dallos and approvod by tho DoI. At an
executiva sersion at the Lic on 2 April i9l, the progran vas eplained
to the herds of the chor intolligerco arencics end thoy voro retpouted
to axinato dosignces to trk uita tho Assistant Dircctor for Scicntifie
Intolligonco on tho attor. Esch ors of tho dosigroes kas beon cpproschod
inforlly to detemiro lis departaont's interosts, and proiras existont.
A final stop in this prccoss ues tho remcraniua to each dosigrmo asldinz
for the specifio objoctiras of his copartont cnd for infozition on estalishcd cr plared progs. Tho dato of 20 July for suinission of this infoiration vas estllishod tecanse of a ncoting of connultents to the projoct scheduled for 23 aly 1951 2. lir. Aborti cutlind in datail ths Favy progran ani his concept of the over-cll cbjectivas: a. Defensivo amocts - An omlo of the action takon ty the lavy in thds rograd is a briofint shicl lr. Atorti gives to CIA parsonnol viich consists prinrily of indcctrirstion or conditicnin b. Offonsive aspocts - Theco trerk dom into: (1) To uso of. drugs, etc.e (2). Intorroratica technigueo (a) Kochanical sids (b) Phapmccuticals Tho cmrent Navy roscarch offort started in lok7 at Eothcsca The Ary ani the Air Force vere cavised of this effort vhich prccccded rather slovly dro to lisitation in fuds, cte.  The noxt siguificant

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a. C  pproachod lir.borti for cupport in commoction uith,Projcet Mlucbird (in thio comoction lir. Altorti cugceoted at tho ctco-nmo fortho CIA Project bo changed clnco "plrobird" referred ta, a spccifis oporation uhich is nes conploted.) Col. idsars's projcct concicted prinarlly of tho uso of narco--hopnosis plus rochanical aids such as tho He dotoctor. To CIA Projoct did rot uco cono of tio drugs offerod by tho lavy and tho opportonity for teoting thoso in that project tas thorofore lost.

b. At abcat tho seze tire tlio Lavy re-enalyzed tho Dopurtront of Deforss projocto concorred vith'obtaining intclligonce fron intorrogeticus snd dccided that there vera linitaticns en crpabili ties sitin tho Departecnt of Dofenso due to the difficnlty of conductinz testa co inlivicvals, eto. The lay took the mattor u ith Adniral Lrom uo uas cesociated vith Dr. lieiling in tho Offico of the Sacrotary of Defenre,and uho koa of tho Lavy interest bocause of his provioos position as Director of Rescarch, Deretn of Kedicins and. Sugory. At that tino alco, the iavy Fsho ias vorking on zotion sicnuss" problcis. AArojoct ves establidhcd uzor 0ia vith  vith allocated by OsD over a poricd of trco yaro. . 0R to date has uzponiod (50,000 for vhich thoy vill ultirtoly bo roidoersed by the Office of Socretary of Doforcs Tho Aro mxl Air Force voro Lriefed on this projoct. Also joint reotings voro hold vith CIA ani tho FEI, but not tha Departeent of Stato. The Filis rosction vas - no interest - rothing to contriruto could not anit interost in such a project ayaey. c. Aco at tho aco.tire, Oln edvised on o? thokproject nt the Univorsity of Trlinna. This projoct is in csscnce a search for valid irications of dcccption othor than tho mochmical indicators roa boing used. It elso considored cortain cther kacum mochanical ixicators such as oye zotions, cte. Tiis projeet in r firuced - fevy \$50,000- Anry and Air Forco €25,000 each. In tunry, Kr. Albarti stated that tho pocitic objcotives of thoso projects aro the dovolopnent of affensive tcehnicues. Moy aro cooniinutcd Deptrtront of Pefonse projocts unior tho managmpnt control of O.All iirortion on such projects vill to mde availnblo to CI Tho Kkavy also has an intinzo interost in daveloping ncu tochnigios for resistence to Lntorrogation (tke Cefensivo aspcots). 3. Tie Air Force ueobor edvioed that ho tould bo forced to givo a nagativo riport on activitics in his depertnant until furthor inforration could lo obtaired. l. The Airy nciber edvised that he was in about?tho sore position excopt that ho had lcarmed of a projcet at larvard Vaivorsity urior

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Dr. ToL. telioves that this projsct i n tho yehiatrie foid, is unclaoulried, and vas dovelcped and is controlled by tho Offiea of tho Surgcon Cerorol of tho Ary.

5.Dr.a exlind tho iosion of tho modical wit in OSI. It is rsconsiblo for, continued mrvoillanco of foroign offorts in t:i Meld Lut is not triclcd éd has no rosponaibility for this project as ouch. He is hanálinz ovezythin enéor his porsonal dlrection with all individuals in CIà listedras to knsulcigo, cto.

6. To corvica porbers lrought up tho mibject of nanuals nor in prcparation in tho Joint Chiofs of.Staff to servo as guidanco as to the attitudo to to ziopted ty r.abors of tho Armed Sorvices when captured, Tero is a serics of OS papers (clescilication TOP EDRLT) uhich uhon spproved vill te sutritted tnrouch tho Lcl to tho Natiorl Seciity Couscil, thon finally approvd thcso will rosult in wnclassificd diroctives and nenuals for tho guidsnco of all sorvico porsonol. Te prirary puposa Ls to edviso cervice porsonnel ont

Thoco inlividuals scot remlarly to insuro contiming progross and full cooniination with rorpcct to cach aspcct of tho projcot in tich on or rcre camonnts of CI have en interest, Tho informtion on the cxistorco of the proioct is liitcd to a fes iniividnals in ccch of tho intorosted officos and this list is on rocord hore..

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This is a treug vhich will to lricfed on 23 July at vhich tioo it is hopod. to convuco thion that tho projaet is rorthy of thoir attontion and es auch of their tino as thoy cen saro fren thoir othor rosponsibilitiog. It is hoped that we can stiolato thoir thiniking and obtain sco conotructivo sugcestiong-as to mpeciiio approaches to tho various rerosrch asposts nf tho profect. In this ccmcction, thcro will ba eperirsntal progas vhich can bo cerricd cut in thio countey. . Thoro will also co progrees Mhich cannot to doro here and ray take tho form of the origini projoct Euebint. Tho rosulta of tho Lattor type of oxperinont vill probably to roportod in tro wayat

a. Eubstentivo reports on the dctailled inforation obtained fraa tho irdividacl, Tuoso ars not our concorn ard vill re issucd throughi rogular estcbliched intelligonco channels.

b. Tochnical roporto - Tcso are reports uhich woald be mado by tochnical. dh\_crvors on tho reactions of tho subjeot uith respect to tho toclmiquca uced anl uould. cono back for rovies by the best sciontit ccpotence svailable. Tais vould.then sagrost rou eppivachos and genarato furthor ezporirantation. Ir. Allorti noted the Aifficulty vhich aroso in conmoction vith original Projoot Muebird anl askod that adeqeato notica of neu CIA oporations for roscarch purposos in this field be Eiven to tho sorvice reprosentatives.

10. The subjcct of collation of infonation taich is ko to to
availcblo in grcat caantities on the toclmiqnes uced on inlividuals tho
have beon in tho hspis of tho Soviots ups considorcd. Er. Alberti notod
that this breaks doua into tuo rrin catocories: n.  Inforation on intoriogatien of cctured persons for tho purpore 'of obtaining intalligsaco.: Thoro is practioslly no infor mation avallailo en tho 'tsciaiçoo used in this comoction. b.. Inforntion en intcrrogations to ootein confcssions. Thera is knom to bo romtains of inorticn on this subjost all of vhich kco been collated by interosted officials in ths Departront of Dofcnso althoagh no suuary has boea prupaied and it is not Lalioved that mch a sumary. is nocessery
n. It was creed thnt it vold to constructiva to trint togothor tho
uvico designces anl tho CIá ccnsltant panel at an cazly date. It uould

9. In zddltlon, GIl hao en cutsido vorsins grepp corposid or epotont cciautists as follcsi

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12. A cacsostion fns malo that sinco vo vill ovontually reot the preblet of cltairing funls for roscardh frta tho various participating agcncics, concicaration-ke given to utilising oidistins and ostablic.ed srarcics for this'piuposo, Tho Air Forco paaber entiored in partioular ths camittco a relical corvices urler tho Air.Fcrco Research and Dovaley rent Carud.

. 13. Cdr.bricicd tho Eroup on cur contacts vith tho acorcseutatives in r and also cur discussions ith tp in conncotion uith tiis cabjoct. In both casos, no irlication or cctive partioipaticn in tiris nttor either in CLa or tho Eepartoent of Dafcnso vas givon.

ll. Posgibility of re-coproachirg the FaI uhich so farhs indicatod no intorost in tlis projoct uas diccussed. laaes suggested vhich pight bo uceful in this conscction vero provided (r. tand lr.an aa): The foror is protably tho inivieial vith the real kculodge thile tho latter 1s the FBI liciscn officer with the sorvdcese.. TCe3