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lnttãs ef tho Uorking Coaaittee leeting; holą 12 Aprtl 1935, at 1030 heoãs.

Kantoro procent varo:

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It eos reportoã that sizco tho lest ceetieg, cttesyts haa beca maãe to contect nombers o? tho lenking Coreittce ináividually to Ciscvos aopeets of the pregroa c? cociel intorest. levever, chargos in the Cerutteo noaberohip haà occunel and coze prosont nseãed oricntetion.

Neport vas offored ca capletsd or near-ccaploted projacto. Tase iacluded the Eisal roport on the Brainrashing Stuáy ucv in pross cnà the stuãy ca Chineco bahevior pattorna uhich hao cczplotel collcctioz of ¿sta. It ueo inäicotea chat tho lattor projoct vcvld re ccsylotod by,lJuly 1956.

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lie,e boporteá thet dsto elrcaéy dicieitrted on the Chcneee projcet cas Tevxrdly rocdtvel by hie Diviclen. éstnáleaied thet Coxther ésta woold de dictribatad et a leter dato.

sarreyated ca cho taoin ctudles nos oncoing ct culvorpiey Hatiept Beloal. Sman prallatrcay Eiroiega trao dogtrtea cnd it us iuteatel te ctadios wald exítcre.

Tho atea. of kypacnio zea êissasrea. It mo egesed that arnctsotle Antaoot An thio aran cadeted in Ca Agany, lut thnt to Artercot us ccstor éiea tho aáaal epamntieãal raoé. An objoetiv hero uil. to to coteapt to unucrêla a oyotamsie raper trincing togottex variens rioie sná uos. Dr. Frms inquirea co to vo rea how nech tico rso iavolved in chò ctuãy of hypnosis. It so iräicctoà thot tuo seall prejects rozo ncw cugelrg and' thas a thiza projeet unn in the proposal eape. Dr Atso indicatca Cat tho etulioo cere ceipot cná nant about a3, fer ao tho Aganey ncadaã. lr. C O nivtoion, inlicstad that háo offics kal kopt os tep os tho subjaat for any yesrs.

Dr. iniccted that Ssptauer to Apnii uno too leeg s. tii tetraoa metsugs eod. tret in evñnr to cvalnato tho cetivity tore coataat ms petercay. lr. Crery inéiectel Unt le teld. tork eo cleuoly ts yesciblo utth DrKcpnd tat kt e2o the

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intontion to cce iP Uhoro coaa bo roro frogvont cootings cith Veriting Coxaittee maabora. Zt vas irdicatod that it vas bolieved the enèiro Voriting Ccmttteo chculd rzot ct laect tuice a year, but that thoro chcnla to raro frogeat contceto- vith inéiviéual !
cOLbOrS.

Eyyncsio r2s dicoucced agoin end Dr.Fyrepertoà Ehat tho, prescnt pheco tes corzolctins horsotie poscmas uith phyotological end bicehoaicel pococres. Dr. crrbinéiceted agoin thero vao no colid craretiencl. xegnirosoat for vork ca byposio. Ne saaaizlccted that dhoso teo veal coirg cn at tho procent tiro to Elrá ecsezaled tochimss Ser tho iciuction ef hypacsão, particurrly dy noioc tho polycraph. To inéicstod. tat toy hea not secched tho -point chare toy hea croeifie 1nfonatien, tut as cesn ac avaálablo fhoy voall givo inforzeticn atout is. Ib inçiccted that in hís opinion, theis vork voo scaouiat erule, but thot tho rosulto rero encounezing. Dr. Andicoted thct toro vo ecnsiéorable intoroot in hpeosic cad meporteà on com Canctbies styeies. le aleo ciccucscd tho ieposteneo of stuâying caos lypnooic. Ih.  inãicated that thoro toro plons to set botter inforrtioa Eren tke iola o? cnthrpolesy, uich ras telicved to have scso c? the best infonatien ca the thinto Dr. Catas Ciccscing. Éacver, te bave ao ooterntie vork An thís aroa nor. Br.t iréectod ttat la Eolt ctes in thio crea voro very pertirene, portiçuorly in ctnliticaing arento for Siolá assigncoato. C

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V. vi8t  el Ue poyehechosiurlc uca 1srted. It

wes irlieeted aat tho rajes erpresls at tho pareest tiãa 1a ea studylag roneticns of inäivlávalo to Crugs rather thea the drug itcel². lozà is contimateg en trylag to learn,coro chout hea to renace, ceploit, ená utilízo reáoticns fer putpcsos pertivent to tho Agezcy.

Eo Tucileot Acsoacront Pregras ves roporteà cs a noy cutivilty. lt ves polnted cut Gant a joint vozling comitteo, coãe uo o? zoproçantstives cf dho Cfies ol Treinieg,áS, erd tro veoko. At tho prosant tirs a stoly uíll to veéortca to attaet to Cicocve» vhothor e poroca'o rocoticno unéer clechol con to uceá eo o vssul escoocnnt Covice. Dr.E veated to cutaa tizt thio tao co of tho thioss va vore trying to Sind cut. Pre iséiected thct ho cnd hic colleeaues voro intorccteà in thic aadjeot erd Dr. C ani le inäicatol thet cs ceop cs te had a srociãie peoncçal v3 veulà ecza to hin for cooiotanco. Dr. p inqicoted that there teo ecsicorable ccncora. accac oreratícmal peoplo on this cubject. Ee ctated that to voro lockisg for tho bost vay to nemt corirontal vork in thio asoa. le. oyatertic cprzeeah to cos thothox juôgaont caão froa potoo, bahevlor et ccclitoil τavtios, enl co ¿erth, ccvlà ccatritute anvthinn to acciot ogorating caso ofricers in thcir eporatios. Dr. mw inäicated that o possibla vilvzble ccnclusica voale da thct caco of thoco tulngs vavlà do batter igaorcã.

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Juterest 1i. ,nterrogeties teehniouea waa à. osud. vao roported in paevlen reotinga. Tío is a utudly to etteapt to got gurdad inforaaticn froa inäividuzlo chich they cratnarily rofuso to pvvoal. It tas inãicsted that thíoprogren vas catting alcaz fairly voll crà that vo vare in ebout to ridló e? it. Dr. C veatel to kneu thst vs roczt by "the nicle of it". Or.  indiccted thot the cnporicoatal cosiga heê been aploted. Tvnty-cigit inlividunls had boen systozaticclly staied by perticipoting voychiatriots end a cories of ctruotured quontono rolating to czeh inaiviáuol ked beon ecplotea. Sors of {to cctunl intervicuing haa bogun. Reuoror, co greliuirary Pinctoge kave teon rererteć.

lir.l rerorted thot in liro vith tho original Li. rora

Chertor, propxacls hed tesa unde to onpend. the overt reeorsah Seundatien. n, At tho procont tino the Scsioty is co elosoly counoetsd vith aPUniversity thot it ie disficult to uso it Por contraeting for extornel recserch in other rocezrch cozunities. Torefore, it vas. being propocod that the Sccicty ba ecopletely aaparcted froaé Dünivorsity, e full-tiee rcscarch alroctor of tho,Socicty hized rokiag it poscible to kecp clover touh vith tho resccrch cczzunity eni acunt projeets of intcrost es requiromentu dovolopra.

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Dr, indicated Uhat he bed dirflculty 1n
mounting certain projecto in vich ho mao intereétea end Uat he
knov vhothor Socurity aspeets of this nov cotup had boan -properly
evaluated. Dr. nted to knov viat typo of porson ves
baing conatdored as full-tieo director. Nar. indicated
that ho hd sovoral types in mirá aná that this covld be dis
cusseà lator vith Dr.'.if he vas intorcsted. Dr. pointed
cut that lo vos not:a can2iêata for tho position tut that lo
vewld valacao ca cpportunity to tolk about chat vaò baing planasd. wieh tho conelusiol of tho brainraohing stuly, casontiall

the coro croup verking ca this predlea Lay begin vork en a otudy e? to dynasies o? defcctiea and treeson. A cpecisic propeoal in thio crea is noy in cur banão ard vill probably be iaplcumnted in the nozt yoor.

Tare cro no plans for furthor stelies ca fercigo bohovior sueh co tho Chiscce přoject. Scuover, the Chieese stuey is lookcã uyon as a pilot stuãy in this area cnê chouid the neea ariso further subjoet studios moy bo rounted.

The ext area discusced vas thet of operational uuulovau •.It vas raportod that tuo ficld trials usias poyehochenicals as an aajunet to intorregaticn had beon tried, that it vas planncd to contiouo to give this assistooce vèerever indlicated cnd popcible.

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Dr. faportea tiat thcro bad beon lorgely cuecesoful frea tho ctavépelnt of boing nhle to teko a roasure ef chcro vo are cad vhoro ca aro golrg. Dr.ãSenntea to kxca if tào aéoluiotzation of dnugs haa boen henaled by recezuised rxdical men. Dr ainlieatéd that this vas iapcssiblo unãer tho circuasteraes. Iodical opccioliats voro ecnsultad but N.D. 'a' did not cetively participato in tho Anterrogations. Dr. Cuan ntated that us ohould caasicor the ücogor involvel in not ucieg H.D.'s cud thot even in cortain forcign erees, ll.D.'o ean bo yrovided to tert witd thozo projoets, taaò eo tast bo proparot to cascunt for uufurtusato resaticns. Lo capbcoiacd otrcagly thct thio cheuld bo takea into consldorotica. Dr.C inlientel that ve did have thio ecneera cnd thot it kol bocd takca into acccunt.

Tare vos furter Gisaucoica of the Chinoco strãy as a pilot progras. It uro indicotea that tho Chinose ctrãy hat deon a worthvailo study, but that nothing Iroo this stuly inüleated going oyoteratieally frea cultere to cultura eith sisilar otulies. Further atraico in thís area vill havo to be countad cu tho bosis of specifie oporational roguirenents levied ogainst cur crcup.

To mprocontatives frea otder officos vora aqked to
roport on cything of significance. ld. Cpropartal thot there
hea beon no AsTcrakE cases cnà centicaed cgun tho diegutced
bypucots stody. Dr. sesroported thct they ted beon coked
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uidorotetdo hao recolved uléo cirenteèicn. Tho docurent vaa preparod frea vork reported by(ená O. Thoy bed tried to lako it intorenting cnd recdable. le tnãorotcel that thero hea bacn soo laek cf ccoráinctica in tho final iosvaaco of tho dceurent anl tiey hqpod thore bed toon no erbarrosezent cevsed by thio. Ee inâiected tht thoy hea bad a voal to proyzre tho decusont en? hra doaa givon to unãorotand that cocráirctioa vau boing totan coro a by comcono clco. Dr. sirdiczted that no hea no cpecilie roport to roko, that thero ka boos rogules particlpaticn uàcn cppartumiey baa dron eficréoa, tat ho vorked vit Socurity on Az uen it earo up. Dr. a indicated thnt bo lad no soport to Eako othor than tlat bo tas vorking tith Ir. ss on tho bypacoic study. Dr. hod to vork doth voys; thzt vo vero roporting tict vo voro deing aná that for us to de efãcetive, eo psoãoà to lnoa a govd doal abcut thnt othora in tho area woro doing also. To lerking Cossitteo is cn eévispry crap cnd vo ore silling to cpoco cur vork Sor ccrutiny. lo czo inviting roplo to cro toTD to look us cor mná va vonld lile to cco caro of uiat othozo are doing. Dr. isâiented that my c? the tingo his collcaguos vero doing voro comoa praotice. Lo cuscosted thst rooy of the thingo thogprogrea toa ctuäyiag vore thingo that his colleagues vero elrecdy cvaro of cad havo oed in thoir professicaal proctico for yeero. Dr."inüicatoá that thoy vented to got

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all. tcy ccolà frea the Comaltteo. Dr. $\lim \limits _ { t  \infty } \tan \limits _ { s }$ stated Gat the Ccsitteo les a veluzblo plece cs cn ulvioory cozaittes. Le 1 wnted it unáorstcrà tbnt bo vao not ccaplaining but that ho bolicved eore goel coala to acccrplichod by Cetting eávico beoro a projoet iãa rcunted rather than eftorurão.

Tho meeting closcà vith Nr. Fa otating that iu tho chscneo of cny cávieo to tho controry, tho teaning of gooo deyona eleco. At tre requcot of tho Director, this rechonicn is ca ettezpt ct coordinating all intercoted activitico pertinent to tho clcodootiro sorviccs, that this ,pooting haa teen ca cttorpt to implcsozt thio coanlinatica idca cal thot throuzà Eaatirg togothor cnd having thto typo of diccvcsicn, e better urlerotendingof tho concept could bo evelveã.