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1. was enthusiastic about the possibility of having his rrcup test the effects of bulbocapnine and siilar irigs which affect the psrche. Cn the other hand, ne poircei cut thas no was not failiar with bulbocapnine and requessed th-t we Surnish in all available publications en its use. He was sola that as far as cur office knew, there have been no experiments wish the hypnotic eflecs oi bulrocapnine uoon humans. lie then asked for availacle literacure describing experinents wish,anirals.

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