MORI 190498

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l'onday, 22 lay 1950

l0po hours, mceting, re narco-analysis as used by past and present enemy nations.

Present. at the meetingwere

1.. Fan to review past requirements statement to recornize amplifications. recognize amplificatlons.

B/3 2. Include subject in search list o of Nurnberg material A

3. anto review whatkniows of U.S. Government A activity re:

b. Psychiatric hypno therapy and narco-analysis.

and drugs used in public trials of c. Pickup in Governnent circles ofinfornation on technique etc. B/6

d. Related fields.

4. will recognize need of further inquiries. 5. for reviert of further collection A effort.

6. When.reaches "progress report of cvaluation," create a cormittee of judges and appraisers.

Tuesday, 26 lay 1950

Two hour interview with re activities during war and location of, "special file", which he believos is stored in "archives." Note: See spocial memoranduna re interview with B/6

Monday, 29 May 1950 ay,

Talked to to contact assignment to OSI.

Wednesday, 31 May 1950

rcame to the office after an interview with Had two hour interview re activities during war. lie offered access "special file" referred to b rasbeing in archives.

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Wednesday, 31 May 1950

Thursday, 1 June 1950

starts working on narco-analysis bibliography.

Friday, 2 June 1950

says is not yet cleared and therefore does not haye access to all of the Nurnberg and other trial. material. Parts of the classified sectionssithe trial in does not, cover this subject. has not yet recovered from hcart attack Seems adviseble to nostpone contact indefinitely with insulin or electric shock therapy and other phases of subconscious isolation.

After adequate cross checking,contact with following, should be considered:

Friday, 2 June 1950

could not keep appointment so had incidental interviev rith No mention of narcoanalysis, but better list of s and their interests in adninistration.

Tuesday, 6 June 1950

Bl Intervie" in with re activities during war. lie has full-time progran with but is sager to cooperate
B/3 th CiA. He knows of enemy es and counter espionage during war. and he cooperated. did not indicate any faniliarity with the latest information on subconscious isolation, in fact he has not yet

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met although he knewduing the war. He will give us names of past contacts and bring a roster up to date by adding new nanes which are available through his contact.

Thursday, 8 June 1950

has not yet received copy
of requirements which were submitted througi
says the originalrequirements were altered, promises copy of revi
requirements. again promises appointment with
early next weak going on leave so willproceed aand did not reveal any connection between
would have interview with tor liaison betweet regarding interrogation Agreed that Bk

has the most complete file on narco-analysis seen to date. Has an extensive table of drugs used by the Russians, including Harmaline. There was emphasis on narco-analysis with little on hypno-narco-analysis. llowever, he is definitely concerned with psychiatric interrogation. From the treatment of psychiatric cases, the group finds that the patient remembers what went on during the period of narcosis.

Discussed the Minterrogation. The r thas arranged to place in th for 48hours.Trsaysthe eare not especiafly interested and will not be included in the interrogation.Interrogationwill be covered by twp technical doctors andduringthecomplete physicalexanination and. will be brought in during the physiological testing and during subsequent interrogation. The Russian use of duress and narco-analytical methods will be coverPolitical and other interrogation will be conducted at a later date..ihas been advised of the advisability to exclude other CIA representatives during the preliminary testing. ivas.very much amroyeil by memno. Tagerestriny mifonnctiin csred hinn that a mehly womdd re biiited ta fro fee os and thas and voned l thr lire at Contacts for c/A.