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Subject: SI and H Experimentation, 5 December 1951

On Wednesday, 5December l95l, SI and H experiments vere carried on in. Building13, Room 20, Hith Messrs and were present also.

Since this was the initial.visit by and since had not participated in any of the experimental work in the past five or six weeks,it was decided that a basic explanation would be given" rin geheral terms and only simple tests for suggestability would be run during this session.

The writer explained to the general type of work being carried on in this office (details and important matters onitted) and explained to her the use of volunteer subjects in connection with some of the experimental work.

At the conclusion of this general discussion, the writer attempted the standard falling back test with with very poor results. zobviously resisting the suggestions. It should be noted, however, that some slight swaying was produced.

Thereafter, the standard hand rising test was undertaken, but the writer noticed that s response in this connection was very slow; fifteen minutes at least being required to produce a very simple small rising of the hand and arm.t. Again the writer and his associates clearly noticed that was notco-operating and apparently was in fact attempting to defeat the test.

Thereafter, a short period of discussion insued in which further matters were discussed with Fand At the ran a slow relaxationtest conclusion of this discussion about 20minutes.Both on both and outwardly gave the impression of ralaxing to a certain extent. However, the writer and Messrs. agreed that the subjects were both either faking or "play acting" in this: test, at least to a certain degree.

After both subjects were awakened by the l23 method by eattampted by an eye fixatation method to place responded, or at least went gain in a sleep condition.

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through the motions of attaining what appeared to be a sleep state, but again the writer ,). and felt that her actions were not authentic and notproperly co-operative.

The evening's work was concluded after this with a short discussion..

COMMENT

In the opinion and the tests were completely unsuccessful since it appeared that had either given instructions or had coached in advance. Whether or not absolute fakery was present could not be determined and since the tests were volunteer, the subjected were not challenged along these lines. It does appear. however, that very little work, if any, should be done in the future with either or unless it can be shown that they are completely willing to co-operate and are interested in the work other than merely an excuse for piling up overtime.