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Office Me.orandum STAIES GOVI NMENT TO Chief, A AB.2, 33/2019

1. Retween 19 August and 4 September 1952, the I&S Artichoke Tean engaged in a special observation and evaluation project with a In the opinion of all the Artichoke Team members and in the openly expressed opinion of two of tho four-man Team and in the opinion of all Case Officers and all other Agency personnel involved, these operations. (except as noted below) were not successful. Details follow:

2. Approximately two years ago, the established a research
project at th ostensively
todiscover ways and means to conbat "motion sickness" and related
matters. The project, however, was designed to serve as a cover for an
exhaustive search to find certain drugs and chemicals that would materi
ally assist interrogators when interviewing or interrogating all tynes
of persons. The projéct was headed by
clinical psychologist who isa is not, a medical doctor. Details as to the size
of the project, persons involved, statistics, etc. are not knotn,
Under date of August 1952, the elligence Agency. This memorandum stated in effect that forwarded a Top Secret memorandun to the Director of Central B/3 rexperiment had produced a drug having, exceptionally meri
torious effects along Artichoke lines and was capable of concealment
in common liquids. The drig was also described as being non-toxic.
The memorandum requested that this Agency work with and test
the drug under actual field conditions. After certain preliminary
difficulties were overcome, agreement was reached as to time and place B/3
for the operation and on 12 August 1952, a four-man left Washington, D.C., and went to Sincethe 11
I&S Artichoke Tean was unatle to travel at that time, the Artichoke
Team did not leave Washington until 18 August l952 and arrived at , on 19 August I952. The experimental program began
shortly thereafter. 一

3. The I&S Artichoke Team was composed of the following individuals: for the Team; TecnnicaleBranch, SRS, l&s, and in charge of technical matters; and the writer.

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l. Thé composed of the following indlyiduals.

5. The experimental work covered five cases. The first two subjects were hardcore professional agent types and the final three subjects were low-grade defectors. The first subject handled was a difficult , suspected of possihle espionage activity. This case, in addition to being tested on the experimental technique, was, at the urgent request.of case officers in the Ficld, given the advancedArtichoke treatment at the conclusion of thexperiment. For matter of record, the Artichoke technique in this case, according to the case officer involved, produced valuable and positive resuits. The other cases were handled in strict accordance with the instructions of Details will be set out under individual cases.

6. As had been done on the previous Artichoke operation in
in June. l952, security details were efficiently handled by the office of under the personal direction ofr This
involved, in the first two cases, the safe house near: with ex
treme precautions as carried out in the previous operations including The remaining three cases were handled at the Since the last,
three of the cases mentioned were defectors and at the time were being
given-high preferential treatment, the security and guard problems-at were not as involved as the operation at the safe house ner

.7. Closely related to the security problem was the alway3 important problem of amnesia on the part of the subjects involyed. In this connection, the writer wishes to point out that th technique was allegedly applied to the various subjects without their knowledige. Whether this was successful or not cannot be stated, but the Artichoke Team comments in this connection will be found in the Conclusion after the individual cases. The first subject (as noted above) was given the adyanced Artichoke treatnent and in the professional opinion of was incapahle of any memory of a pertinent type concerning details of this treatment.

S Concerning the concealability of the drugs as used by the matter appnars somewhat debatable. while there is no positive means of establishing whether the inuividuals were cognizant of the faet that fbreign matter had heon placed in their coffee or beer, the Artichoke Team fecls that a strong possihility exists that the

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subjects wore aware of some form of tampering either with their food or drinks. This belief is supported by the fact that. one of the subjects mado a face when tasting his coffee, another subject complained of bitterness and a third subject became apparen'ly thoroughly intoxicated on three bottles of beer when it had been established that the subject was capable of drinking more than three bottles of beer without effect. More cónments in this connection will be added to individual case discussions.

9. The technical problems were similar to previous problems en-In the first place, these countered in the Artichoke work in.. Hence,case officers-interpretors subjects spoke only. iset up a complex recording apparatus were, used. As before, and tapes were made of all conversations. In addition, since visual observation was important to this workea two-way mirror was set in However,this was impossible operation at the safe house neat to install at the, where only monitoring equipment could be used. was A It should be noted"that in all cases, however, present throughout, each interview. His professional report is at present being prepared in this connection.

l0. The disposal problem was not involved in this operation and, as usual, the Artichoke Team made it specilically clear to all individuals involved that the disposal of cases was not the responsibility of the Artichoke Team.

ll. With the exception of the advanced Artichoke techniques as used in the second half of the first case, all cases'were handled in It may be said tha techthe manner specified b nique was as follows: Each subject was interviewed by a Team consisting case officers or interpretors (as required), and Interviews were, as a rule, conducted in a "pleasant" manher and at the start were apparently aimed at gaining rapport with the 'subject. Then as the effects of the drugs began to show themselves, the questions were changed to more pertinent matters. The drugs were administered throuzh various media -- coffee, beer, or even given a3 a "medicine" to allegedly decrease nervousness on the part of the subject. and Dosages were prepared "on the soot" in various, amounks by No regular or who occasionally consulted pre-determined dosages were administered. (See Artichoke Team Log and did not propose the dosages but merely Medical Report) guestions and assisted in the preparing answered ani placing of the druigs in the media selected. Dosages, amounts, formulas, reasons, etc.were not discussed with the Artichoke Team by but records appearing in. the Artichoke Log eithe were Riven unofficially to the Artichoke Team by.

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12. In general, the cover used in these experimental operations was that the interviews were part of an assessment program in relation to the subject's possible future activity. Thls assessment progran also included some medical and some psychiatricexamination as part of the cover., Ihis was carried out Tparticularly in the first case. The presence of gas covered apparently bk the explanation that she was present to take notes or to assist. as necessary.

13. For matter of record, it should be noted that only very general explanations of the drugs were given to members of the Artichoke Tean. The names of the drugs were never given to Artichoke Team members and this, unfortunately, in the opinion of Team members, materially affected the proper evaluating and judgment in these operations. merely stated that the drugs would produce a certain euphoria in the subject, would materially affect their discretion, would lower their inhibitions, and would promote, as a general rule, a feeling of well being and a desire to talk expansively.

lh. Also for matter of record, in each case, the case officer briefed all hands in the backgrounds of each subject, and the various problems presented. As previously discussed by Artichoke. Team members, the case officers, interpretors involved were highly co-operative, thoroughly familiar with their particular cases and worked in the experimental problems with the highest possible effort and enthusiasm.

At this point, it should be noted that, by
obsenrationand asking questions (particularly
of who was extremely co-opcrative),
it was determined that instead of one suhstance
as stated in the original Top Secret memorandum, was using three substances which he had
named "G", "L", and "". In this connection, the
writer, at the conclusion of the first session,
had specifically requested the names of the sub
stances and the chemical formula, but had been
denied them because /had stated that he
felt if we (the Artichoke Team) knew the names of the substances, we might be inclined to "prejudge" the results. This did not conforn with the previous statements made by the that these substances would be made known to the Artichoke Team upon the conclusion of the first test.

In view of the above, this report does not contain a record of specificdosages. (See Log and Medical Report of

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basically but, spoke and and aprarently bad ew gaged in a ccnsiderable amount. ot intelligence activities prior to the Agency's contact, with hin. Intellectually, he arpeared to br a man of medium formal education but having a shrewd, nstural inteliigence with what appeared to be a typical hard-ccre agent outlook. The major problem'in the subject's case was fundamentally whether or not this individual could be trusted.

Case Officers were in disagreoment, as to his reliability which arose !rom the fact that althorch doing business with .Agency personnel, he had bern physicallv observed by surveillance visiting the on mumerous occasions. The smiject, mte attempted'to explain this on the hasis that his Fconnections were essential for future worx for this Acency and had insisted that he had not. disclosed and in any way. His story, however, had mumerous hcins in it and many contradictory statements had appeared in his explanations. In view of this, and in the opinion of tee Artichoke Team, tne subject. presented an ideal test case for the. experinont, since the suhject was tough, intelligent, shrewd and certainly a profossional arent. typo. Case Officers involved, however, requested that, in adaitien to thr echnique, thc subject be given advanced Artichoke treatiaont in an effort to help the Case Officers clear up the many questions in this case. The subject was in solitary confinement prior to the interrogation.

On Monday, 2y Aumst. ly52, the subject. was picked un at a nearty r eand several guards and was brought to A the safe, house nca in the manner of the two cascs handled in June. At 2:30 PM, 'lhe first session began with the subject on an informal basis with (case officer), esent. At 3:uS PM, the session was interrupted for a short period of time. During this interruption, drurs were inserted in a bottle of beor which was bo he later given to the subject..

NOTE:. It should be noted that the exact proportions of the drugs used at this time were not. given to the Artichoke Team since it had been decidied by all interested parties: at a meeting in waghington and reaffirmed at thefirst meeling Tr ethat after the first tests the names and amounts of the drilgs would be

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At h:00 P, the session resuned and at i:19 ti the subject, was givon the drugced. beer while othors present had uncontaminated beor. At approximately 5:30 Pit, the subject corpleled drinking, nis bottle of beer and at 7:30 Pl:, the session was completeu.

Imuediately after this, a general conferencs was held with ail hands present and a aiscussion was held concernins the previous session. Nothing particularly significant, was reported. Following the conference, the first day's work was concluded.

On 26 Aurust ly52, Tuesday, after a quiet night,, the snbject, was given coffee which contained a smali amount, of an unknown liquid with his breakfast. This was given the subject at 8:l5 Aii and at approximately 8:55 Aii, the subject had completed his hreakfast, drinking his entire pot of coffee. In this connection, it snould be stated that, the writer examined the subject's roon to delermine wnether or not the suhject had disposed of' his coffee in some manner other than drinking same, but there was no evidence of this. For matter of record, it should be noted that this procedure was followed in all cases hy the writer.

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At 9:u0 AM, a general conferunce was held by ali hands and at 10:16NM and joined the subjett in the operations room and, according to plan, shortly thereal'ter, coffee was served to those. present. Drugged coffee was Eiven to ths suhject at this time. At approximately ll:23 A, entered the operations'room and gave the subject another cup of coffce while the others present were given straight coffee. At l:OO PM, this session ended.

NOTE: In connection with the drugged coffee above, it" should be noted that the writer was carefully watching through the two-way mirror and observed that the subject made a face, indicating an unpleasant taste, when he first sipped his coffee and, in addition, at this time, looked at his coffee in a strange manner.

Betwoen l:45 PM and 2:35 PH, the subject had his lunch in his bedroom. Served with his lunch was a bottle of beer that nad been drugged by Subject consumed most of his lunch and drank all of the beer.

At approximately 2:35 Pl, the afternoon's session began with ar talking with tns subject. At 3:ho Pli, by previous agree-A ment, a heavily-drugged bottle of teer was given to the surjectAt h:20 PM, the subject finished his bottle of beer and at h:25 Pii, left the room and brought in fresh beer for the subject whicn had not been contaminated. Straight. teer was served to the others present. at this time. At 5:ll Fi, this afternoon's session ended and at S:u5 FM, a conference was held by all hands. It should be noted that no significant statements were made during this conference and no inportant details were obtained. At 6:07 PHi, the conference ended and the. day's work wasconcluded.

On 27 August l952, at 8:15 AM, the subject was given coffee which had been contaminated in the same manner as had been done on previous days.The subject completed his breakfast including all of his coffce at 8:50 AM.

At 9:l5 AM, a conference was held by all hands and a general procedure was worked cut for the day and at 9:b2 AM, the conference ended. At approximately 9:l9 AM, the subiect entered the cperations roon. where answere seated. At 9:57 AM, the subject was given drugs openly in a glass of water. The subject made no objection to taking the drugs.

NOlEi: Details in this connection will be best established by reference to the Medical Report, but it would

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appear that. under cover of "medication for nervousness", was openly giving, drues to the subjcct. As will be noted immediately following, the subject was given additional drugs again openly in water. In-each instanc, would leave the room,come to the monitoring room, consult. with and then place the cirugs in a glass of water, return to the operations room and five the drugged water to the subject. Since the Artichoke Team was in an observation capacity only and since this procecure had the obvicus approval. of the writer felt that he could not interfere with the open giving of drugs to the subject. Hence, the writer and did not ask any questions but simply continued to observe the procedure.

At l0:00 Ail, the group in the operations room began to play a type of poker using hard beans for poker chins. At l0:50 AM and ll:oo Ai, the subject was given drugs in water which he drank without, objection. At approximately l2:05 PM, the poker session ended and the conversation, which apparently had teen gencral to that, point, changed from a pleasant, type of conversation to a more serious type anc began asking pointed questions of a psychiatric nature (sce Fedical Report). At l:l4 FM, the morning session ended. Retxcen l:20 and l:35 Pli, a ccnference was held hy all hands with no significant comments made. Thereafter, the entire group adjourned for lunch and at 2:20 PH, another conference was helà by all hands. Shortly after this, anc left the premises sincepreviously had requested that the Artichoke technique be used in this case after the experimentawork had been comploted. 3

As stated previously, this first, case was an extremely hard, shrewd and intelligent individual and the Case Officer was desirous of ohtaining certain pertinent information. felt that since the Artichoke techniques had worked so successfully in June he wished them applied to thissubiect. It was, therefore, agreed that after thepexperiment on this subject had heen completed that the Artichoke technique would te brought to bear. It was also agreed that since time was of the essence, the drug-bypnotic technique would not be userd, but ohly the straight druf, method, using, sodium pentothal and Desoxyn, would be tried. (Gce Medical lieport for full details in this connection.)

The Artichoke Team furthermore agreed that. would permit toassis in view of the possiblsdangerous reactions of the -8-

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subject, who, as mentioned above, was a very to observe the technique sinco ance. The Artichgke Team, however, specifically kon to have an aole Tie presen and war- B13 excluded ang B/6

At 2:l5 Ph, the remaining group had a general briefing and, exclusive of the doctors proceded to rearrange t1perationom or ths Artichke echnique Between 3l0 and A and the standard medical cover was laid on.s duced as a "specialist" who would help the subject with his "nervous condition. At 3:15 PH, ande rentered the perations room and the subject was placed oh the bed with all-medical apparatus ready.

At 3:21 P11,4 Kmade the first insertion with a needie in the subject's right forearm and hegan injections of sodium pentothal under instructions. Between 3:22 and 3:30 Fii, made tests to determine the effects of the pentothal. At 3:30 Pil, used a small syringe and injected a sec ond drug (Dosoxyn) in the subiectts left arn for a period of about one to. two minutes. At 3:35 Pii; Astarted the pre-arranged discussion with the subject upon a signal fromí as to the effects of the drugsThis discussion continued from this time unlil about L:20 Pl when Staff Officer, entered the room by pre-arrangement and the discussion with the subject was diverted to new channels.

NOTE: is a Staffmember and a capable interpretor in bott and lleretofore, the conversa- A t,ions had been conducted with. acting as interpretor and speaking solely in --the subject's knowledge of English being reported as extremely slight.
6 wlile thecomechithe sad hon c during t, d ad been brieied on the subject's case by individuals working on the case and it had been decided that was to act'the role of a with whom the subject had B/ had known previous dealings. This deception was considered possible in view of the regression technique which was to be used in the Artichoke mcthod.

Retween :22 and 5:00 FM, approximatel workil together, questioned the subject successfully on pertinent material.

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At 1:31 PM, Tagain injected a arug in the subject's left arm using a small syringe. At l:3l lik removed the small syringc and replaced it with the large syringe. dhen this was emptied, removed the syringe from the subject's arm. At 5:ou PM, again placed the large syringe in the subject's left arm and at 5:l0 FM (approximately), the large syringn was taken out (for details as to dósages, see Medical Report).

As noted ahove, significant questions were asked the subject fron apprcximately 3:lO P'f on. The subjec't. by this time, had reached a complete "twilight state" and tne Artichoke Team had then entered the room and were closely observing theoverations and assisting directly. Dhuring thisperiod(and also after Thad entered the room at u:20) significant material was uncovered inthis case althourh the questionine had been of a persuasive and not unfriendly type. Howeverbetideen L:ls and 5:l0 Fil, under instruction from the Artichoke Team, changed his questioning tactics and very harshly denounced and questioned the subject, to see what results could be obtained at this point and ty lhis technique, since it kas established that significant material had now been obtained andi felt that, the time was hesinnine to run out for the test, drug control. This sharp questioning produced an extremely violent. result. lhe suhject wept, copiously, spasmodically tensed and relaxed his muscles, moved almost continously on tho bed, and made a series of anguished statements apparently in denial of charges put to him by The subject's agitated condition continued until inserted the large needle in his left arm at S:05 Pi. This hada strong effect for approximately at 5:l0 Pri, the subject hecame calm, very quiet and passed into a deep coma or heavy.sleop. Ihis condition lasted for a few minutes when the subject then passed into a more or less normal appearing sleep condition. At 5:/4 Pii, ali persons present in the operations room left thesubject excepuwho was 5A instructed to tell the subject to sleep if at any time lie awakened.

Fetween 5:l5 and 7:50 FM, the subject, was left alone in the opora- 是/3 B/3 tr s  ctant chck pticond ne to doctors. At 7:s0 , A the subject was removed by and the twc guards to his own bedroom and the subject's condition was reported by jand the doctors as being, at that time, satisfactory. At 8:00 Fri, approximately, after a brief conference, the day's, session ended.

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Case /2 was. handlod by the Artichoke fean in in June 1952 using, a combined Arlichoke technique of drur-nypnosis ant a straight druc approach. Hence, it was acrerd by mombers ol the Artichoke roam in consultation with the case officers thal. it would be unnecessary to annly àrtichoke methods in this cnse again, but use the case fer thex experimentation. It was felt. iy all hands that was an ideal test, case, since he had been treated by the Articnoko technique previously and results could bc cross-checkedstashould also be Ccasein noted that the case officer who worked with the to for tho sole June was brought frch at this time, was enzaged, purpose of working on this case. sand, hence, his tiine was very in a very conplex operation out. limited.

Physical details and background history of Case #2 was set out. in great detail in he June l952 report by the Artichoke Team and is not being repeated herein.

On 28 Augnst 1952 10:15 Ar, the subject was hrcught to the Saf'e and guards and taken immediately to his room House by and procedures set out in June were followed as before.

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At 1:35 Pii, a conference was called and only the following wore to attend: (interpretor) the Case Officerr excluded llessrs A capparently for personal reasons. Neither the writer nor A made objections to this on the basis that we would be represented be Team's visw that no problems should be placed in the way aind it was the Artichoke 3/ This conference ended at 2:30 PH.

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At 2:35 pi, the subject was taken to the oporations roon with tending and at.2:h0 Fli, heer was carried into the room by The subject's heer at this tine had been drugeed with a vory heavy dosage of the three suhstances being used. It appears that on the basis of the known facts in this case and the subject's high intelligence and robust pbysique that the henvy dosage had been agreed upon byaa ßy h1:53 P, tne subject had completed drinking his bottle of drugged benr and at 6:06 Pll, the first session ended and the suhject was taken to his tedroomn. At 6:30 P, dinner was served the subject in his room and at this tine he was given another bottle of beer wnich had been drugged. A 7:20 Pii, the subject had finished his meal. He had consumed all of his beer but had not eaten much of his food.

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called another conference and azain exclude This conference ended at B:03 Pli and at b:25 Pii, the second session began with the subject with the operations room.

At approximately 8:30 PH, beer was prepared for all individuals in the operations roonand the subject was given a hoavily drugged bottle of beer. At l0:l0 Pii, the subject had linished nis bottle of beer, and all hands laft the operations roon for a short time Fetween 10:17 and 10:55 calledanother conference withy in attendance. At 10:55 Pi1, the conference ended arn returnedtotho operations room and rejoined tne subject. At 12:05 P carried in straight beer and shrinp and remained in the room, apparently on instructions fre At2P, this session ended by agreement and this case wasconcludedorsdecision. Shortly thereafter, the subject returned to his beuroon and in view of the necessity for leaving at once for this case was considered terminated.

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On Friday, 29 August 1952, the rticnoko Teaun" ro
movel the technical equipment fron lhe safy houso F
nean fand transferred it to the at A and made the neceasary technical Installations at this point which were used in
Cases 3, l, and 5. In this connection, Lhe rooms in which the interrogation was carried on at
were suitahle only for monitoring purposes and a specinl mirror was not, placed in these roons. Hence, wheroas much of the information in the first two cases was by direct eye-witness and monitoring, the following cases were monitored only. After the handling of the first two cases, which were hard-core agent types, the Staff Officers a had made arrangonents for 8/3 thesupnlyipgof types for processing bya at his request.chses 3, h, and 5 were all individuals of this type and each individual had been Fiven the "deluxe" treatment -- they had heen placed in comfortable nouses, had not boen confined in any way, had been given spending money and a great amount of freedom. They had not been harassed in any manner and no threats had been made, even though all of them had given stories which were not wholly factual and which were in parts evasiveand, at times, palpably false. On Saturday, 30 August 1952, after a brief conference at 9:05 Aii was brought to the with all hands present. Case /3, the firs and the first, session started at 9:35 AN operations room a ang (case officors)
A B1 in the oserations roomtw This first
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At, 9:h0 AH, coffee was prepared and a bitter tasting substanc? (quinnine sulphate --?--) was olaced in the subject's cuo. This was done on instructions from..hecause he explained that he wished to make the suhisict's coffee taste bitter. No other cnemical was added at then carried the coflee into Lhe operations this time. room. Again at l0:20 A another pot of coffee was made-and more of the bitter substance was olaced in the subject's coffec and carried into the operations room by

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At 10:50 Ai4, the subject was given a tottle of heavily drugged beer while all others in the ruomn were served uncontarinated bottlesof beer.. At ll:22 Ai, the subject had consumed the cntire bottle of beer.

At 12:30 PH, the session endod and all hands stopped for Lunch with no significant comnents made at this time.

At l:30 PM, the second session began with this subject with again in the operations roon. At 2:50 Pii, another bottle of beer was prepared and at 3:00 Pi, the drugged beer was taken in and given to the subject

At l:02 PH, the officers monitoring the interrogation were informed that direct questions were now being put to tho suhject whereas previously the discussions had been friendily and informal.

At 4:25PM cane into the monitoring room and advised that the subject, in going to the bathroom, had stumbled and fallen apparently in an intoxicated manner. At 5:25 Pii, this session ended and gescorted the subject froin the arca.

At. 5:37 Pli, a general conlerence,was held by all hands including; . erin the monitoring roos. The writer at this time for thi noted some enthusiasm on the part ok technique but under direct questioning hy the writer, certain oovinus weaknesses appeared.It was the writer's opinion tnefand had beon perhaps "psychologically conditioned" by previously talking to rand their opinions were not coldlvwimpartial. This was later confirmed by talking withe and and by their commentsmade later to the Artichoke Tean andl also to At 6:20 Pl, this conference ended and this case was conand cluded.

NOTE: The writer feels that it is advisable at this time to point.out that during the course of the day's sessions, this subject drank only thrce bottles of beor yet, according to eye-witness reports, he. anpeared intoxicated, stumbled ard fell going to the bathroom. Accordingto r. the subject was able to drink many times this anount and the writer believes the use of drugs could not be called surrepticious since any intelligent person would wonder why after only three bottles of beer he had become intoxicated and fallen.

The writer also feels that he should point out that, this subject altered or changed several of his previously given statements during the day's sessions.

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On 30 August 1952(Sunday), the rxperimental Team interrogated Case f This su Asstated beforé, ne had previously nade false and evasive statements t? interrogators and his story to date had contained numerous discrepancies.

At 10:17 Ai, the conference ended and at l0:24 , At 9:uo AM, a general conference was held with allhands Dresent. A escorted the suhject into the opcrations room and shortly thercafter B/6 he was joined by had enterea the operations room previously.

At l0:h0) Ail, coffee was prepared with drugs and at l0:50 AN (approximately) this coffee was carried into the onerations room with the drugged coffeo heing given to the subjoct b At ll:07 AM, more coffee was requested and this was sent in. This coffee was not drugged.

At ll:2l AM, the subject was given drugged beer by who had left the room and retirned carrying the beer.

The morning session ended at l:Zl Pit and the entire group adjourned for lunch.

At 2:32 Pil, the second session began with this subject with are attendling. At 2:50 Pri drugged coffee was prepared and gifen to the suhject. This coffee was finished by the subject at 3:20 PM.

The interrogation continued until h:50 rH when non-contaminated beer was taken into the operations roon.At 5:30 PH, the session ended and the suhject was escorted out by A

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The writer asked bote, ar ownether there was any more reason to behieve his Statements now than previously and and at this time admitted that they could not be certain as to which stateinent was nearer the truth. No other significant comments were made at this time.

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Imnediately thereafter, a ceneral conference was held in the operations room wi and attending. The writer, who was not asked to join in this discussion, monitored it and noted a disagreement between, 1. an as to results obtained although both indicated they thought the previous day's session was more successful. In general, the results weré totally negative. This conference was concluded at 6:00 Pi.

On 3 Jeptember 1952, wendesdayCase  was interrogated hy the technigue. This case-was the-nad This suhject was never been questioned in detail but had only been engaged in geperal conversations. Hence, he appeared to be ideal material for the. technique.

At 9:18 A and brought the suhject into the operations room and were joined immediately therèafter by.

At 9:37 Ai, coffee was prepared and heavily drugged for the subject and given to him. Py l0:05 AM, the"subject had finished this colfse and at l0):2l AM, drugged beer was given to the subject. Again at ll:2l Ai, another bottle of beer was heavily drugged and given to the subject. At ll:45 AN, all beer was finished and at l2:ul FH, the morning-session ended and all hands adjourned for lunch.

The\_afternoon session began at l:45 Pil wit and rin the operations room. A few minutes later, a bottle of heavily druigged beer was given to the subject wnich he finished at approximately 2:50 Fl. At "h:05 Pii,the session ended and the subject left the operations room. Petween l:05 Pl and h:22 Pli, a conference was attending and with no held with significaht comments noted.

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