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MEMORANDUM FO Dapsty Director o Ceriral Ltelligezce VIAI DO?6G

Dintervles wllh Mr.G aa the rubjoct ct Byzncale

Memorandum 22 Norernler 196l, Chief, to Mr.licCogé, reporting ca sabject Ixtervias

l. Paragraph 9 al thle cemorneduo cocteias a rectmamonda. Hian for the appreval of the DDCl.

2. Felioing are Stafi comrerto aná recommescaticno en sabject ard seferancs wich is zitacbod hersto.

3. Beth the Clnco ef Security end the Techaical Services Diviaien kave bad a sastained laterest la the euhject of bypnosis and have subsiéised rezcarch la it. Beth affices and thostaff have been alert to davelopmerts vhich misht bo cf cpereticasl use. bet, so lar, nahing Cemanstrzbly useiel la aperctlenal pitoulicus bas beea fomnd.la Jmes i9se thsStall, in cooptratias with the Cf3es of Escurity cnd T8D, tritlated a prcgrein to sttempt teatiaz of bypwcis in opariozal sitaticas. The emptasie for this parpots bas tets ca relatively Uttle used rspid isdoctioa techriques. Wo bellera this type of bypnosis, rather thsn the cizssle type vhich most practicieners keve la mind, prabably oora tha greatest poatibilittea for cperetieas, and ee are on ths alert for epportuoities fer Clald tecting.

4. To date ealy oas operational test hae beea coaducted; it dzs incarclusive. Dificaities in aporational terting revoive arorrd thrae polnts: (l) ths problera di Rudirz sparatoro for trataiag wke bave the mecesrary operstional taleats, language ubility, and motivatioa (2) tze cxtrese dicalty of Eadia experimartal scbjeets and sttustians wbich do ari hare a dasgercas polsatiai for Agency

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embarrassments end (3) of courae, the precent inposslkillty ef predicting resulis.

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F/I 8. With rezard to paregraph 1 of the was usci by ur in onr eperstiona agaiust  and we F/I memorandum, are in a positicp to recontact him, abould it become necoesary.
F/I incidertaliy, is nct dependezt oshelp, bet isI griníully employed.

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C 9. It is rocomcended thot r.be tcld the follosing:

Although CLA does moaitor Cevelopmects in tha field of byoccin for both cofensivo ani cffenelve razssza, de fecl thst bacic ressarch ia thás ficld should remaia ia tha hands cf private isstitrtiona end overt clemeois of the Coverniner.

Ha iterest end offer are apprecisted, and ths possibility ci etillciag bie acsistance slll be explored.

We aro su courznt on the opertionel pocsibllities F/I01:0: bae re apprezlato his latercet.

C k woulá be cawiae to adrise Mr. of the scnsltivity of the sabject and i is rocauaoded that ths Agency reply net be in writing.

l0. Tho gist of the above recomrieniztion wae conveyed by
telephone toMir.by kir. ci this Flaff on
22 November. A A

CCNCUR: OD? (dete)

The recozmeaietian cantalned in parsgraph 3 abore is apprtved.

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propared byi G/A 22 dac 61 H

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COPY

Following is a copy of the transmittal note from Mr. to
AMr. which accompanied the latter's memo to the DDCI
6 subject. Interview with Mr. on the C aubject of Hypnosiat
A D/DCI has approved the attached recommendation ard wiahss you to proceed promptly to make contact wiih
C Mr. on behalf of the DCI. Whoever makes the
Ccontaet with Mr. should bave in hia posaession tho
C.letter from to Mr. McCone / note:attached to
AMr. memo when it was retd by Mr. A and should thank him for the letter and the baeket of frult on behalf of Mr. McCone.

D/DCI alao wanta to have either

and advise him of how we have handled this matter with Mr. D/DCI feels it C would be advisable (over) to tell Mr. that we keep fully abreast of developments in the field of hypnosis and believe we have more fully experienced and better qualifled connections in this particular field than Mr. C

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