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Becurity Offics, and I hed a conference. prior to tho
moting, had written up a lonr list of speeifio questiccs thich ha riched.
enswered by Dr. stated that the icolation, plrs tha spe
oielised interrogation techique he hsd developed at would, bo'be
lioved, result in a ccoplete pychio breakioe, i enorgh tirs vere pornitted.
The volonteer persomel used to date could nerer bo brought to this
stage, Ee stressed, hovever,that anyone going throrgh a corolete breakiown
would ccos cut with soncuhat lorored mastal facilitics." was partiou
larly interested in ceterniniog whethar tha ioolation technique conld be:
adapted to field conditions, both in à period of tics reqaired to brear the
indiridual and in the-equipent utilised. stated the uss of cartaio
typas cfidruge right ahorten the period before the braakdoan occurred.
also stated that sone other type of equipmant, such as an inflatrble suit ora
watar tank, might producs apprucinately the sane cooditions.These, he felt,
ight be pore spplicable to field conditions. ∴÷

2. There was a considerable amoct of discuesion about the rse by ths Sorists of amall roons to break dn the rorale of prisonars of var and pak thez susccptible to brain-sashing. stated that such isolstion distorts the individal's oen picture of hirself, snd result in iatenso desire to coioate with fellow an in order to regain the scnse of idsstity. Ths poesbility that the Russiansknow about Dr. experinenta at in isolating dogs and subsequently husan beings, was aiso discussed, rentioned that three topBussian piysiologists had visitedtoatch a brzinoperation,in which the ability to stisulate gr block pemry was demorstrzted. These sae piosiologists sar sonething of installations, presumably isolated dogs. There ws zlso an rticle in Eagarine rhich gave sors indication of the nature of sork. Ths entire exverirent in hes been toruinated. This was finced by the Jhas trice gone toCasi f to disoues tha experixant with So far as kons, noboty io the United States oris nov engaged in thia fiald.s

3. it the end of the msting, stated thet be wanted to atilise -the questions shich had ansrared as a basis for draving up a projoct, hichwould, ifspprored, perit CD to etilize Dr. i serrices including his medical secretary and psychologist.  stated that he had bad a talk carlier in the weak with widentified indiridaals inBe would prafer not to make any arrangerents withthe beczase he believes our Ageicy is the appropriate ons.

h. On 17 Yarch, telephoned to adrise that on his way back
yesterday afternoon, Dr. had rentioned that his conference a little
eerlier this week inhad been vith and his Deputs. bad

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cirpleed Cteat interct in czperircato,Eo cchrdEito ferairh nirelo crpark-nt on cn cotrcenictio cubicst thich veald result in ca-leto hina inóiccied thit h right mnt to cont a padkío breaia stated that he rould not reat coy othcrcecoev to imes irything rboat thio c periscat rnlena it proved to bo cucocsrfel. rcitcratod to Gerthet ho tio ecverco to bcoozing Lovalyedrith tho hed tolcphone o briof hin on there dcteiloi. Dtated thet ho vould cpodito hid project piper cod cond it throuch tho Direoter of Security to Caicf, rss, co thatAcency ccordinztion vould bo effeoted ct tho propor levöl