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1. i discurion ves beld toiy vith ls. on vurious methods (sone of thes in the egerirantal staco) of inusing inolutary replies to questios, certein forrs of Lmeris, and teperary degrecs af nertal derancexent, eic. It vas brougat out that trare is ao real evidcncc vastscever tast toe Chinese Comrmiste, or even the Russians, are uoing these tecimiques in interrogation of Pais. lr. A stetec taat he vas certain that is miy of thess fields the Rusrians vere as advanced as ve, but hs areed tat at this tix no positive action shoald betakento prpireecrtice persomeligcint aryspccific scient le interrocationteobaiqucs,J

2. i.agroed to keepmo constantly inforneéof dorelopenta in tais field, ané of any intelllgence reports pericinin to Commnist use of these methoás..

3. In tue cowrae of the discussion there car to lignt seversi posaible chsnele for experiment and ingniry into the use af drugs as a nans of effectinessapeLron a prisc aap, border crossi. e seracted that thie mtter be discussed with and that certain specifie erperi-6 rtal requirents be put on paper and adirossed to For cuauple6 thereis a pill, now in poduetion, wich will induce an ertroverted and iratorniring cttitude in a givan indivicual, yet vill have no sfiect pon his motivation for vithholding secrets. Sueh ricat. be highly valuatle in en interreraticn, espocially if the intcrrogater vere an Orieptal. Anotier poslity is a druc (in powéer ferz, also in prodstion), a muate anount of wict sucfices te put a mn to slecp tor a amsideratle period of timo, and whee bo wakes, he kas no idea wtcoever of bs he fell asle or waane Toe dossgo requirod is so srall taat the air aroné the prison guari could be cortanlinated with toc druc morely by vaiving ono'e hand, in vaich a amall amourt of this poder hes been places, in the guard's face.

h. It is ry recommondatios that both of these poesibilities be looked into frther.

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