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I awarded a penalty to the attacking team. The kick was intended for a lineout by the try line. The kick missed target and went out on-the-full between the try line and dead ball line. My gut instict was to award a lineout to the defending team at a position of the kick. A friend, also a referee said the it should have been a 22 drop-out and yet another aquiantance, also a referee said it should have been a scrum to the defending team at the point of the kick. If the kick had been a normal kick from the hand that had gone wrong then I would also have awarded a scrum to the defending team at the position of the kick. I followed my gut instinct and awarded a lineout defending team at the position of the kick. I have read and re-read law 22.8 but it does not seem to cover this. Was I wrong? and if so, Why? Can anyone help? Ian_Cook 09-03-09, 11:03 Law 22.8 is the correct Law for this occurrence. The ball was kicked into touch in goal, it was not a shot at goal or an attempted dropped goal. The fact that it was a PK is irrelevant. Law 22.8 applies whether it was a FK, PK or a kick in play. Your two acquaintances were both half right 22.8 BALL KICKED DEAD IN IN-GOAL If a team kicks the ball through their opponents? in-goal, into touch-ingoal or on or over the dead ball line, except by an unsuccessful kick at goal or attempted dropped goal, the defending team has two choices: To have a drop-out, or To have a scrum at the place where the ball was kicked and they throwin. Dickie E 09-03-09, 11:03 and welcome to the forum, Gary. Where is R.C The Dukes? Ian_Cook 09-03-09, 11:03 and welcome to the forum, Gary. Where is R.C The Dukes? If I had to guess, I'd say its in the Netherlands. ttp://thedukesopentens.web-log.nl/menut\\... Phil E 09-03-09, 11:03 Oooooh...VPL........and I don't mean the bloke in green tights!!!! Davet 10-03-09, 00:03 Option to defenders of Scrum back or 22 dropout. definitely NOT a line out. Andyp 25-03-09, 15:03 Had this in our U13s festival the other week. Our 10 kicked touch-in-goal from a penalty, Oppo took a 22. Kicked out on the full. Our captain was offered a line out or scrum in the centre. Took the scrum on the 22 and the 10 put a DP through the posts to win the game 3-0. cheers Andy. PaulDG 25-03-09, 18:03 This is actually very common in English U11 & U12 rugby. Games are played across pitches and the kickers tend to be the better footballers in the squads so they can easily (and often do, to the despairing looks of their coaches) kick the ball dead at every penalty. Dixie 25-03-09, 22:03 This is actually very common in English U11 & U12 rugby. I thought for a moment you meant the ball going dead from a 22 (15m). In the two years my son was a denizen of these age groups, I never once saw a 15m drop-out awarded nor taken. Just as well really - no-one ever knew where the line was, as for some reason the coaches chose to mark the goal-line as the 5m line, with the try line as the dead ball line. Weird!