Title: State v. Jackson

State: ohio

Issuer: Ohio Supreme Court

Document:

[Until this opinion appears in the Ohio Official Reports advance sheets, it may be cited as State 
v. Jackson, Slip Opinion No. 2018-Ohio-2169.] 
 
 
 
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SLIP OPINION NO. 2018-OHIO-2169 
THE STATE OF OHIO, APPELLANT, v. JACKSON, APPELLEE. 
[Until this opinion appears in the Ohio Official Reports advance sheets, it 
may be cited as State v. Jackson, Slip Opinion No. 2018-Ohio-2169.] 
Criminal law—Fifth and Sixth Amendments—A social worker’s statutory duty to 
cooperate and share information with law enforcement with respect to 
child-abuse investigations does not render social worker an agent of law 
enforcement for purposes of Fifth and Sixth Amendments to United States 
Constitution when social worker interviews an alleged perpetrator unless 
other evidence demonstrates that social worker acted at direction or under 
control of law enforcement—Record does not support court of appeals’ 
conclusion that social worker was acting as law-enforcement agent when 
she interviewed child-abuse suspect—Court of appeals’ judgment reversing 
suspect’s convictions reversed and cause remanded. 
(No. 2017-0145—Submitted February 13, 2018—Decided June 7, 2018.) 
APPEAL from the Court of Appeals for Cuyahoga County, 
No. 103957, 2016-Ohio-8144. 
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SYLLABUS OF THE COURT 
A social worker’s statutory duty to cooperate and share information with law 
enforcement with respect to a child abuse investigation does not render the 
social worker an agent of law enforcement for purposes of the Fifth and 
Sixth Amendments to the United States Constitution when the social worker 
interviews an alleged perpetrator unless other evidence demonstrates that 
the social worker acted at the direction or under the control of law 
enforcement. 
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O’DONNELL, J. 
{¶ 1} The state of Ohio appeals from a judgment of the Eighth District Court 
of Appeals reversing the convictions of Demetrius Jackson for kidnapping, gross 
sexual imposition, and two counts of rape.  The issue presented on this appeal is 
whether a social worker’s statutory duty to cooperate and share information with 
law enforcement regarding a child abuse investigation renders the social worker an 
agent of law enforcement for purposes of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments to the 
United States Constitution if the social worker interviews an alleged perpetrator. 
Facts and Procedural History 
{¶ 2} On August 5, 2015, C.H., who at the time was 14 years of age, went 
to the home of N.J. and joined her sister, S.H., and her sister’s friend, Demetrius 
Jackson, who also were there.  C.H. went to sleep in an upstairs bedroom, and when 
Jackson woke her up and tried to lay down with her, she pushed him out of the bed 
and he left the room.  However, he later returned and offered C.H. $200 a week if 
she would allow him to perform oral sex on her and would keep it secret.  She 
refused, and Jackson then ripped her underwear off, performed oral sex on her, and 
choked her when she resisted.  He also digitally penetrated her and had vaginal sex 
with her.  She escaped and ran to a family member’s nearby home.  The police were 
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called, and she was taken to a hospital where she was examined and treated.  Police 
arrested Jackson and attempted to interrogate him but he refused to speak after 
being advised of his Miranda rights. 
{¶ 3} The incident was reported to the Cuyahoga County Division of 
Children and Family Services via a hotline phone call on the day of the incident, 
and the case was assigned to Tina Funfgeld, a sex abuse intake social worker 
assigned to the agency’s sex abuse unit.  Funfgeld contacted the police to conduct 
a joint interview with C.H., but police had already interviewed her, so Funfgeld 
conducted a separate interview.  Separately, CCDCFS social worker and child 
advocate Holly Mack, who was “assigned to the county jail,” interviewed Jackson 
on August 11, 2015, at the request of Funfgeld.  Mack works “directly with 
incarcerated parents as well as alleged perpetrators that are in the jail,” and one of 
her “primary job duties” is to interview alleged perpetrators when the agency 
receives referrals for abuse and neglect.  Mack stated that when she meets with 
suspects, she identifies herself and advises them of the allegations, that anything 
they say “can be subpoenaed by the [c]ourts,” and that it is up to them whether to 
continue the interview.  During his interview, Jackson told Mack that he had 
consensual oral sex with C.H., whom he believed was at least 21 years of age, and 
that afterwards she requested money, which he refused to give her.  He denied 
having vaginal sex with her. 
{¶ 4} A grand jury indicted him on three counts of rape and additional 
counts of gross sexual imposition, importuning, felonious assault, and kidnapping 
with a sexual motivation specification.  Jackson waived the right to a jury trial, and 
at a bench trial, his counsel objected to Mack’s testimony about the statements 
Jackson had made to her because she questioned him “as an agent of the State and 
law enforcement” and failed to notify him of his Miranda rights.  The court 
overruled the objection and allowed Mack to testify.  As a result of that ruling, 
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Jackson testified on his own behalf and claimed he only had consensual oral sex 
with C.H. 
{¶ 5} The court dismissed the importuning and felonious assault charges, 
found Jackson not guilty of one of the counts of rape, but found him guilty of the 
remaining two counts of rape, the gross sexual imposition charge, and the 
kidnapping charge with a sexual motivation specification.  For purposes of 
sentencing, the court merged the gross sexual imposition offense with the 
kidnapping offense and therefore sentenced Jackson on two counts of rape and one 
count of kidnapping with the specification.  The court imposed an aggregate 11 
year prison term. 
{¶ 6} Jackson appealed, claiming that the trial court violated his 
constitutional rights by allowing Mack to testify about his statements to her, that 
the court violated his Sixth Amendment rights by admitting hearsay statements 
made by C.H. to a police officer, and that his convictions were against the manifest 
weight of the evidence.  In a split decision authored by Judge Eileen A. Gallagher, 
the appellate court reversed his convictions.  The majority explained that pursuant 
to Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 16 L.E.2d 694 (1966), 
“statements stemming from custodial interrogation of the defendant must be 
suppressed unless the defendant has been informed of his Fifth and Sixth 
Amendment rights before being questioned.”  2016-Ohio-8144, 75 N.E.3d 922,  
¶ 15.  The majority further explained that Miranda only applies to admissions made 
to officers of the law or their agents, that a person must act “under the direction or 
control of a law enforcement agency” to qualify as an agent of law enforcement, 
and that based on the facts before it, Mack acted as an agent of law enforcement 
when she interrogated Jackson.  Id. at ¶ 17-18.  The majority concluded the 
direction or control element was  
 
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satisfied in this instance due to the formal procedure established by 
CCDCFS and local law enforcement for routinely conducting 
interrogations of defendants without providing Miranda warnings. 
These interrogations are proceeding under the direction, and for the 
benefit, of law enforcement pursuant to a “memorandum of 
understanding” required by Ohio law. 
 
Id. at ¶ 18, citing former R.C. 2151.421(F) and (J) (now R.C. 2151.421(G) and (K)).  
The majority further explained that former R.C. 2151.421(F) required a child 
advocate “not only to conduct an investigation in cooperation with law enforcement 
but also to submit a report of the advocate’s investigation, in writing, to law 
enforcement.”  Id. at ¶ 20. 
{¶ 7} The majority also noted that Mack was assigned to the jail and that 
one of her primary duties was to interview alleged perpetrators in abuse cases.  Id. 
at ¶ 19.  It could find “no legitimate purpose” for Mack’s interview “other than to 
directly assist the investigation of law enforcement pursuant to [former] R.C. 
2151.421(F).”  Id. at ¶ 21.  The majority acknowledged Mack “may have been 
performing her customary duties as an investigator for CCDCFS” but stated that it 
was “problematic” that her “customary duties are designed to routinely violate the 
constitutional rights of defendants.”  Id. at ¶ 22. 
{¶ 8} The majority held Mack violated Jackson’s Fifth Amendment rights 
by subjecting him to custodial interrogation without Miranda warnings and violated 
his Sixth Amendment right to counsel by conducting the interrogation outside the 
presence of his attorney.  Id. at ¶ 28-29. 
{¶ 9} Judge Sean C. Gallagher dissented.  He opined that Mack was not an 
agent of law enforcement because the record did not demonstrate she acted at the 
direction, control, or behest of law enforcement and that the statutory duty “to 
cooperate with and submit a report to law enforcement does not, in itself, 
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demonstrate that the child advocate acted as an agent of law enforcement.”  Id., 
2016-Ohio-8144, 75 N.E.3d 922, at ¶ 40, 43 (Gallagher, J., dissenting). 
{¶ 10} The state appealed and presented one proposition of law:  
 
A social worker’s duty to cooperate and share information 
with law enforcement does not render the social worker an agent of 
law enforcement, under the Fifth and Sixth Amendments of the U.S. 
Constitution, where the social worker does not act at the direction, 
control, or behest of law enforcement. 
 
Positions of the Parties 
{¶ 11} The state contends that Miranda applies only to law enforcement 
officers or their agents, that it is undisputed that a social worker is not a law 
enforcement officer, and that a social worker’s statutory duty to cooperate and share 
information with law enforcement with respect to a child abuse investigation does 
not transform the social worker into an agent of law enforcement for purposes of 
the Fifth and Sixth Amendments to the United States Constitution.  It argues that 
interviews of alleged perpetrators by social workers are “inherently less coercive 
than those addressed by Miranda” and “serve important interests related to the 
health and safety of children.”  It asserts that the proper inquiry for determining 
whether a social worker is an agent of law enforcement is whether the totality of 
the facts demonstrate the social worker acted at the direction, control, or behest of 
law enforcement, and here, there is no evidence that Mack acted in such a manner 
when she interviewed Jackson. 
{¶ 12} Jackson maintains that the state’s “entire argument rests on the faulty 
premise” that the requirements of Miranda apply only to law enforcement officers 
or their agents, and he relies on Estelle v. Smith, 451 U.S. 454, 101 S.Ct. 1866, 68 
L.E.2d 359 (1981), and State v. Roberts, 32 Ohio St.3d 225, 513 N.E.2d 720 (1987), 
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for the proposition that Miranda applies when a state actor subjects a defendant to 
custodial interrogation and “the totality of the circumstances warran[t] use of the 
procedural safeguards required by Miranda.”  Jackson points out that courts in 
several jurisdictions have held Miranda applies to social workers employed by 
children services agencies, and he argues that social workers should be treated no 
differently from Internal Revenue Service agents, who must comply with Miranda 
pursuant to Mathis v. United States, 391 U.S. 1, 88 S.Ct. 1503, 20 L.E.2d 381 
(1968).  He claims it is “important to recognize” that Mack was a “member of a 
special unit” at CCDCFS that “collaborated with law enforcement,” that she was 
“assigned to the county jail,” and that her “only job-related duty was to interview 
‘alleged perpetrators’ in the county jail,” and that it is reasonable to assume that she 
possesses interrogation skills comparable to or exceeding those of most law 
enforcement officers.  He also maintains that “there was both a formal and informal 
relationship between the agency and law enforcement which involved a significant 
level of coordination, cooperation, and sharing of information,” and “the agency 
and law enforcement very much worked as a team in the investigation and 
prosecution of crimes against children.”  (Emphasis sic.) 
Issue 
{¶ 13} The issue presented on this appeal is whether Mack’s statutory duty 
to cooperate and share information with law enforcement resulting from her 
interview with Jackson rendered her an agent of law enforcement for purposes of 
the Fifth and Sixth Amendments to the United States Constitution. 
Law and Analysis 
{¶ 14} “The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, made 
applicable to the states by the Fourteenth Amendment, states that “[n]o person  
* * * shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself.”  
(Ellipsis sic and citation omitted.)  State v. Graham, 136 Ohio St.3d 125, 2013-
Ohio-2114, 991 N.E.2d 1116, ¶ 19.  Pursuant to Miranda, “the prosecution may not 
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use statements, whether exculpatory or inculpatory, stemming from custodial 
interrogation of the defendant unless it demonstrates the use of procedural 
safeguards effective to secure the privilege against self-incrimination.”  384 U.S. at 
444, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 16 L.E.2d 694. 
{¶ 15} In State v. Watson, 28 Ohio St.2d 15, 275 N.E.2d 153 (1971), this 
court stated, “Inasmuch as custodial interrogation, as defined in Miranda * * * 
means ‘questioning initiated by law enforcement officers after a person has been 
taken into custody,’ the Miranda requirements do not apply to admissions made to 
persons who are not officers of the law or their agents * * *.”  Id. at paragraph five 
of the syllabus, quoting Miranda at 444; see also State v. Bernard, 31 So.3d 1025, 
1029 (La.2010) (Miranda applies only if “the interrogation is conducted by a ‘law 
enforcement officer’ or someone acting as their agent”).  And we have observed 
that other courts have recognized  
 
that the duty of giving “Miranda warnings” is limited to employees 
of governmental agencies whose function is to enforce law, or to 
those acting for such law enforcement agencies by direction of the 
agencies; * * * it does not include private citizens not directed or 
controlled by a law enforcement agency, even though their efforts 
might aid in law enforcement. 
 
(Emphasis added.)  State v. Bolan, 27 Ohio St.2d 15, 18, 271 N.E.2d 839 (1971). 
{¶ 16} “The Sixth Amendment, applied to the States through the Fourteenth 
Amendment, guarantees that ‘[i]n all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall * * * 
have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.’ ”  (Ellipsis sic.)  Kansas v. Ventris, 
556 U.S. 586, 590, 129 S.Ct. 1841, 173 L.Ed.2d 801 (2009).  In Ventris, the United 
States Supreme Court explained: 
 
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The core of this right has historically been, and remains today, “the 
opportunity for a defendant to consult with an attorney and to have 
him investigate the case and prepare a defense for trial.”  Michigan 
v. Harvey, 494 U.S. 344, 348, 110 S.Ct. 1176, 108 L.Ed.2d 293 
(1990). We have held, however, that the right extends to having 
counsel present at various pretrial “critical” interactions between the 
defendant and the State, * * * including the deliberate elicitation by 
law enforcement officers (and their agents) of statements pertaining 
to the charge. 
 
(Emphasis added.)  Id. 
{¶ 17} “[W]hether someone is acting as an agent of law enforcement is 
dependent upon the unique circumstances of each case.”  Bernard at 1033. 
Child Services Agency 
{¶ 18} R.C. 2151.421(G)(1)—formerly R.C. 2151.421(F)(1)—provides 
that generally, a public children services agency 
 
shall investigate, within twenty-four hours, each report of child 
abuse or child neglect that is known or reasonably suspected or 
believed to have occurred * * * that is referred to it under this section 
to determine the circumstances surrounding the injuries, abuse, or 
neglect * * *, the cause of the injuries, abuse, neglect, or threat, and 
the person or persons responsible.  The investigation shall be made 
in cooperation with the law enforcement agency and in accordance 
with the memorandum of understanding prepared under division (K) 
of this section.  A representative of the public children services 
agency shall, at the time of initial contact with the person subject to 
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the investigation, inform the person of the specific complaints or 
allegations made against the person. * * * 
* * * The public children services agency shall submit a 
report of its investigation, in writing, to the law enforcement agency. 
 
{¶ 19} R.C. 
2151.421(K)—formerly 
R.C. 
2151.421(J)—addresses 
memoranda of understanding.  R.C. 2151.421(K)(1) directs that a public children 
services agency “shall prepare a memorandum of understanding that is signed by” 
certain officials and organizations, such as the county juvenile court judge, law 
enforcement officers handling child abuse and neglect cases in the county, the 
county prosecutor, and the county humane society.  The memorandum 
 
shall set forth the normal operating procedure to be employed by all 
concerned officials in the execution of their respective 
responsibilities under this section * * * and shall have as two of its 
primary goals the elimination of all unnecessary interviews of 
children who are the subject of reports made pursuant to division 
(A) or (B) of this section and, when feasible, providing for only one 
interview of a child who is the subject of any report. 
 
R.C. 2151.421(K)(2). 
{¶ 20} In addition, the memorandum “shall include all of the following”: 
 
(a) The roles and responsibilities for handling emergency 
and nonemergency cases of abuse and neglect; 
(b) Standards and procedures to be used in handling and 
coordinating investigations of reported cases of child abuse and 
reported cases of child neglect, methods to be used in interviewing 
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the child who is the subject of the report and who allegedly was 
abused or neglected, and standards and procedures addressing the 
categories of persons who may interview the child who is the subject 
of the report and who allegedly was abused or neglected. 
 
R.C. 2151.421(K)(3). 
{¶ 21} Although CCDCFS’s memorandum of understanding is not part of 
the record in this case, nothing in R.C. 2151.421 or the record supports the 
conclusion that pursuant to it, Mack acted as an agent of law enforcement when she 
interviewed Jackson.  Although R.C. 2151.421(G)(1) imposes a duty on a children 
services agency to cooperate with and provide information to law enforcement 
regarding child abuse investigations, it does not mandate that agency employees 
interview alleged perpetrators of child abuse at the direction or under the control of 
law enforcement.  See also Ohio v. Clark, ___ U.S. ___, 135 S.Ct. 2173, 2183, 192 
L.E.2d 306 (2015) (mandatory child abuse reporting statutes “alone cannot convert 
a conversation between a concerned teacher and her student into a law enforcement 
mission aimed primarily at gathering evidence for a prosecution” for purposes of 
the Confrontation Clause). 
{¶ 22} Thus, a social worker’s statutory duty to cooperate and share 
information with law enforcement with respect to a child abuse investigation does 
not render the social worker an agent of law enforcement for purposes of the Fifth 
and Sixth Amendments to the United States Constitution when the social worker 
interviews an alleged perpetrator unless other evidence demonstrates that the social 
worker acted at the direction or under the control of law enforcement. 
{¶ 23} And here, the record contains no evidence that Mack acted as an 
agent of law enforcement when she interviewed Jackson.  The only evidence of 
contact between CCDCFS and law enforcement about the investigation in this 
matter before Mack interviewed Jackson is Funfgeld’s testimony that she contacted 
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law enforcement to coordinate a joint interview of C.H., which is consistent with 
the statutory goal of a memorandum of understanding of eliminating unnecessary 
interviews of child victims.  See R.C. 2151.421(K)(2).  There is no evidence that 
law enforcement asked Mack to interview Jackson before or after the detective’s 
failed attempt to interview him or that law enforcement influenced Mack’s 
interview of Jackson in any way. 
{¶ 24} Accordingly, the appellate court erred when it concluded that Mack 
acted as an agent of law enforcement in conducting an interview of Jackson. 
Inapposite Authority 
{¶ 25} Jackson’s reliance on Mathis, Estelle, and Roberts is misplaced.  In 
Mathis, the United States Supreme Court considered whether an IRS agent who 
questioned an individual in connection with a tax investigation while he was 
serving a state prison sentence had to give the individual Miranda warnings.  391 
U.S. at 3-4, 88 S.Ct. 1503, 20 L.E.2d 381, fn. 2.  Mathis rejected the government’s 
attempt “to escape application of” Miranda on the grounds that the interview 
occurred “as part of a routine tax investigation where no criminal proceedings 
might even be brought” and that the defendant was not “put in jail by the officers 
questioning him, but was there for an entirely separate offense.”  Mathis at 4.  As 
the Supreme Court of Louisiana has noted, in Mathis, the court “was not called 
upon to decide whether the IRS employee was a ‘law enforcement agent,’ as the 
government apparently ceded that point.”  (Emphasis sic.)  Bernard, 31 So.3d at 
1030. 
{¶ 26} In Estelle, the United States Supreme Court held that a state court 
violated the Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights of a defendant in a capital case when 
it ordered a psychiatric examination to determine his competency to stand trial, the 
psychiatrist interviewed the defendant in jail without advising him of his Miranda 
rights, and during sentencing, the court allowed the state to question the psychiatrist 
about statements the defendant made during the interview in order to establish his 
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future dangerousness even though defense counsel was not notified in advance that 
the psychiatric examination would encompass that issue.  451 U.S. at 456-458, 461, 
467-468, 470-471, 101 S.Ct. 1866, 68 L.E.2d 359.  The Supreme Court concluded 
the fact that the defendant “was questioned by a psychiatrist designated by the trial 
court to conduct a neutral competency examination, rather than by a police officer, 
government informant, or prosecuting attorney, is immaterial” because when the 
psychiatrist testified at sentencing, “his role changed and became essentially like 
that of an agent of the State recounting unwarned statements made in a postarrest 
custodial setting.”  Id. at 467.  This case is distinguishable because it does not 
involve a court ordered examination, and the Supreme Court has observed that the 
“opinion in Estelle suggested that [its] holding was limited to the ‘distinct 
circumstances’ presented there,” Penry v. Johnson, 532 U.S. 782, 795, 121 S.Ct. 
1910, 150 L.Ed.2d 9 (2001), quoting Estelle at 466. 
{¶ 27} In Roberts, this court considered whether statements a probationer 
made to his probation officer while in custody without prior Miranda warnings 
were admissible in a subsequent criminal trial.  32 Ohio St.3d at 227, 513 N.E.2d 
720.  Although we observed that decisions in other jurisdictions were in conflict on 
the issue, noted that “[m]ost of these cases turn on whether a probation officer is a 
‘law enforcement officer’ under Miranda,” id., and concluded that the “better rule 
is followed in those jurisdictions which require a probation officer to give Miranda 
warnings prior to questioning” a probationer who is in custody, Roberts at 231, we 
did not specifically determine whether a probation officer is a law enforcement 
officer or agent.  However, we noted that R.C. 2901.01(A)(11)—formerly R.C. 
2901.01(K)—defines “law enforcement officer” to include an officer of the state 
with a statutory duty to enforce laws and authority to arrest violators and that R.C. 
2951.08 gives probation officers the authority to arrest a defendant during a period 
of probation, id. at 228, fn. 7, and we emphasized that a probationer has an 
obligation “to ‘ “report to” ’ and ‘ “answer questions posed by a probation officer” 
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’ ” and is under “ ‘heav[y] psychological pressure to answer questions put by his 
probation officer, a figure of both authority and trust,’ ” id. at 230, quoting Marrs 
v. State, 53 Md.App. 230, 233, 452 A.2d 992 (1982), quoting United States v. Rea, 
678 F.2d 382, 390 (2d Cir.1982).  Here, there is no assertion that Mack possessed 
authority to make arrests, and the record does not demonstrate that Jackson and 
Mack had a relationship comparable to that of a probationer and probation officer. 
{¶ 28} Accordingly, none of those cases support the position that Mack had 
an obligation to provide Jackson with Miranda warnings even though she was not 
an agent of law enforcement. 
{¶ 29} And because Mack is not an agent of law enforcement, the appellate 
court also erred when it concluded the trial court violated the Fifth and Sixth 
Amendments, as applied to the states through the Fourteenth Amendment, in 
admitting her testimony. 
Conclusion 
{¶ 30} A social worker’s statutory duty to cooperate and share information 
with law enforcement with respect to a child abuse investigation does not render 
the social worker an agent of law enforcement for purposes of the Fifth and Sixth 
Amendments to the United States Constitution when the social worker interviews 
an alleged perpetrator unless other evidence demonstrates that the social worker 
acted at the direction or under the control of law enforcement.  In this case, no 
evidence indicates that Mack acted at the direction or under the control of law 
enforcement when she interviewed Jackson. 
{¶ 31} Accordingly, we reverse the judgment of the appellate court, and we 
remand this case to that court to consider the assignments of error it did not address. 
Judgment reversed  
and cause remanded. 
O’CONNOR, C.J., and FRENCH, FISCHER, and DEWINE, JJ., concur. 
KENNEDY, J., concurs in judgment only. 
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DEGENARO, J., dissents, with an opinion. 
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DEGENARO, J., dissenting. 
{¶ 32} I agree with the majority that a state-employed social worker’s 
statutory duty to share with law enforcement information concerning a child-abuse 
investigation does not render the social worker an agent of law enforcement in all 
cases—I would stop short of creating a bright-line rule.  Although the statutory 
scheme and the way it operates clearly establish a cooperative relationship between 
children’s services agencies and law enforcement, whether a social worker acted as 
an agent of law enforcement when interviewing an alleged perpetrator must 
ultimately be determined on a case-by-case basis.  The proper analysis requires 
determining which of two distinct statutory duties the social worker was performing 
during the interview: the reporting duty under R.C. 2151.421(A)(1)(a) or the 
investigative duty under R.C. 2151.421(G)(1). 
{¶ 33} Here, the effect of R.C. 2151.421, coupled with the evidence—that 
one of the primary job duties of Cuyahoga County Division of Children and Family 
Services (“CCDCFS”) social worker and child advocate Holly Mack was to 
interview alleged perpetrators in jail—never child victims; her 17 years of 
experience; that she interrogated appellee, Demetrius Jackson, in jail after he had 
been arraigned on the charges she was investigating and after he had already 
invoked his Miranda rights when questioned by police—leads to the conclusion 
that when she interviewed Jackson, Mack was functioning as an agent of law 
enforcement for purposes of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments to the United States 
Constitution.  Accordingly, I dissent from the court’s judgment and would affirm 
the judgment of the court of appeals. 
{¶ 34} Mack’s interview of Jackson was undertaken pursuant to a statutory 
scheme that directs children’s services agencies, law enforcement, and prosecutors 
to work collaboratively to investigate and prosecute crimes against children.  R.C. 
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2151.421(G)(1) mandates that social workers employed by public children’s 
services agencies do more than merely report instances of child abuse or neglect to 
law enforcement as required by R.C. 2151.421(A).  Rather, they must “investigate 
* * * to determine the circumstances surrounding the injuries, abuse or neglect, 
* * * the cause of the injuries, abuse, neglect, or threat, and the person or persons 
responsible.”  (Emphasis added.)  R.C. 2151.421(G)(1).  That “investigation shall 
be made in cooperation with the law enforcement agency.”  (Emphasis added.)  Id. 
{¶ 35} In furtherance of this duty, a children’s services agency is also 
required to “submit a report of its investigation, in writing, to the law enforcement 
agency” and to “make any recommendations to the county prosecuting attorney or 
city director of law that it considers necessary to protect any children that are 
brought to its attention.”  R.C. 2151.421(G)(1) and (2).  As a corollary, R.C. 
5101.13 provides for the establishment of a uniform statewide automated child-
welfare information system (“SACWIS”), which, among other things, “shall 
contain records regarding * * * [i]nvestigations of children and families * * * in 
accordance with [R.C.] 2151.421.”  R.C. 5101.13(A)(1).  Mack testified that she 
uploaded the results of her interview with Jackson into this database. 
{¶ 36} Information contained in SACWIS may be accessed by, among 
others, a prosecuting attorney when the “access * * * is directly connected with 
assessment, investigation, or services regarding a child or family.”  R.C. 
5101.132(A)(1)(a); see also Ohio Adm.Code 5101:2-33-21(F)(2) and (3) 
(providing that public children’s service agencies “shall release” child-welfare 
information in SACWIS to “[l]aw enforcement officials who are investigating a 
report of child abuse or neglect” and the “county prosecutor who is investigating a 
report of child abuse or neglect”). 
{¶ 37} The statutory scheme formalizes cooperative investigations among 
children’s services agencies, law enforcement, and prosecutors.  Therefore, I agree, 
to a point, with Jackson’s argument that it would be disingenuous for us to require 
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that police specifically request that a social worker question an alleged perpetrator 
before the social worker may be considered an agent of law enforcement for 
purposes of the Fifth Amendment—indeed, the institutional arrangement provided 
by law obviates the need for such a request, in many cases.  That said, the facts of 
each case must be examined to determine whether the social worker was acting as 
an agent of the police. 
{¶ 38} I question the majority’s reliance on Ohio v. Clark, ___ U.S. ___, 
135 S.Ct. 2173, 2183, 192 L.Ed.2d 306 (2015), as support for its conclusion that 
Mack was not acting as an agent of law enforcement when she interviewed Jackson.  
Ohio v. Clark involved a preschool teacher’s statutory duty to report suspected 
abuse to law enforcement.  At issue here is a state-employed social worker’s 
statutory duty to cooperatively investigate suspected abuse with law enforcement. 
Compare R.C. 2151.421(A)(1)(a) and (b) with R.C. 2151.421(G)(1).  See Ohio v. 
Clark at 2182-2183. 
{¶ 39} As Chief Justice O’Connor explained in her dissent in State v. Clark, 
137 Ohio St.3d 346, 2013-Ohio-4731, 999 N.E.2d 592, rev’d and remanded, __ 
U.S. __, 135 S.Ct. 2173, 192 L.Ed.2d 306: 
 
What the [reporting] statute requires is actually quite 
minimal: when teachers, or others who are required to report, 
encounter suspected abuse or neglect in their official capacity, 
they must report it.  In turn, the children’s services agency or the 
police—not the mandatory reporters—are responsible for 
investigating the injury or condition “to determine the 
circumstances surrounding the injuries, abuse, or neglect or the 
threat of injury, abuse, or neglect, the cause of the injuries, abuse, 
neglect, or threat, and the person or persons responsible.” 
 
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(Emphasis added.)  Id. at ¶ 85 (O’Connor, C.J, dissenting), quoting former R.C. 
2151.421(F)(1) (now R.C. 2151.421(G)(1)).  Ohio v. Clark is therefore factually 
distinguishable from this case. 
{¶ 40} Moreover, Ohio v. Clark involved a distinct constitutional issue: 
whether statements made by a minor victim of abuse to his teacher were testimonial 
and therefore barred under the Sixth Amendment’s Confrontation Clause from 
admission at trial.  For these reasons, Ohio v. Clark does not control the outcome 
of this case. 
{¶ 41} That said, I agree with the majority that R.C. 2151.421(G) and 
related statutory provisions do not categorically transform a children’s services 
investigator into a law-enforcement agent.  However, the specific facts here lead to 
the conclusion that Mack was acting as the functional equivalent of law 
enforcement when she had Jackson removed from his housing unit in the jail so she 
could question him. 
{¶ 42} The lead CCDCFS sex-abuse intake social worker Tina Funfgeld 
explained in her testimony that Mack was “assigned to the county jail,” and indeed, 
Mack testified that one of her primary job duties was to interview alleged 
perpetrators in jail and that she interviewed no one else.  Mack had 17 years of 
experience with CCDCFS.  Jackson, on the other hand, though he had a prior 
criminal record, did not display a high level of insight regarding the criminal 
investigative process.  For example, according to his testimony, after the rape 
allegations were levied against him, he waited for the police to arrive, believing 
that a rape kit would be performed on site and would immediately exonerate him. 
{¶ 43} Moreover, Jackson’s statement to Mack occurred after he had 
declined to speak to police.  He did not talk to any of the officers at the hospital 
where he was taken upon his arrest.  And when a Cleveland Police detective visited 
him at the jail and advised him of his Miranda rights, Jackson refused to speak, 
explaining at trial that he “just wasn’t saying nothing after that.” 
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{¶ 44} Thereafter, Mack came to the county jail to question Jackson.  
Importantly, for purposes of this appeal, the only issue is whether Mack acted as an 
agent of law enforcement.  The state concedes that Jackson was in custody during 
Mack’s interview and that Mack did not Mirandize Jackson; further, the state does 
not dispute that Mack’s interview constitutes an interrogation. 
{¶ 45} Mack testified to her protocol when interviewing an alleged 
perpetrator: “I identify myself, I let them know that they have been named as the 
alleged perpetrator, I let them know what the allegations are against them, and then 
I also let them know that anything they tell me can be subpoenaed by the Courts.  
It is then up to them whether or not they want to continue with the interview or 
not.”  Mack further testified that when informed of the allegations against him, 
Jackson proceeded to tell her “his side of the story.” 
{¶ 46} The manner in which Mack conducted her interview resulted in one 
of the primary concerns of Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436, 86 S.Ct. 1602, 16 
L.E.2d 694 (1966): the use of deceptive tactics to obtain incriminating statements.  
See State v. Roberts, 32 Ohio St.3d 225, 230-231, 513 N.E.2d 720 (1987).  She 
never testified whether—or if so—how she followed her protocol with Jackson or 
whether she explained the ramifications for him.  Specifically, there is no indication 
that Jackson understood that his statements to Mack could be used against him at 
trial or—what ultimately happened here—that the admission of her testimony 
would put him in the position of taking the stand at trial when he otherwise would 
not have.  Based on these facts, it is highly questionable whether Jackson would 
have spoken to Mack had she first advised him of his Miranda rights. 
{¶ 47} Contrary to the majority’s conclusion, Mathis v. United States, 391 
U.S. 1, 88 S.Ct. 1503, 20 L.Ed.2d 381 (1968), and Estelle v. Smith, 451 U.S. 454, 
101 S.Ct. 1866, 68 L.Ed.2d 359 (1981), are instructive.  Mathis involved an Internal 
Revenue Service (“IRS”) agent who questioned an inmate in prison where the 
inmate was serving a state sentence.  The inmate was ultimately charged with and 
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convicted of violations of the federal false-claims statute.  On appeal, the Supreme 
Court concluded that statements and information gathered by the agent should not 
have been admitted at the defendant’s trial because the agent had failed to provide 
him Miranda warnings.  Implicit in the court’s decision was a determination that 
the IRS agent was the functional equivalent of law enforcement. 
{¶ 48} Estelle is even more on point.  In that case, the Supreme Court held 
that Miranda applied to a psychiatric examination conducted by a court-appointed 
psychiatrist, concluding that the fact that the defendant “was questioned by a 
psychiatrist designated by the trial court to conduct a neutral competency 
examination, rather than by a police officer, government informant, or prosecuting 
attorney, is immaterial.”  Id. at 467.  The Supreme Court observed that under these 
circumstances, the psychiatrist “went beyond simply reporting to the court on the 
issue of competence and testified for the prosecution.”  Id.  At that point, “his role 
changed and became essentially like that of an agent of the State recounting 
unwarned statements made in a postarrest custodial setting.”  Id. 
{¶ 49} Similarly, Mack’s interrogation of Jackson exceeded the customary 
function of a child advocate: to protect the safety and welfare of children.  Rather, 
she was acting as an extension of law enforcement.  Mack went beyond 
investigating and reporting—whether, for example, the victim was at risk of 
exposure to a sexually transmitted disease.  Instead, she elicited and ultimately 
recounted Jackson’s “side of the story,” which put Jackson in the position of taking 
the stand in order to counter Mack’s testimony. 
{¶ 50} Further, the decision of the United States Court of Appeals for the 
Second Circuit in Jackson v. Conway—affirming the grant of federal habeas corpus 
relief in a case with facts strikingly similar to those here—is persuasive.  763 F.3d 
115 (2d Cir.2014).  In that case, the defendant was arrested before dawn after he 
was accused of committing multiple rapes during the night.  Later in the morning, 
after police had read him his Miranda rights, he invoked his right to remain silent 
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and refused to speak to them.  He remained in a holding cell until the afternoon.  At 
some point during the day, after interviewing the victims, a child-protective-
services (“CPS”) caseworker from the county department of social services 
interviewed the defendant in the hallway outside of his holding cell after the 
defendant was escorted there by an officer.  The caseworker “introduced herself as 
a CPS caseworker, explained her role, and asked [the defendant] if she could speak 
with him about the victims’ allegations.  She did not, however, inform him of his 
right to an attorney or give him any other warnings.”  Id. at 122.  The defendant 
agreed to speak with her and, in essence, told her his side of the story.  At trial, the 
caseworker testified about what the defendant had related to her.  Applying Mathis, 
the Second Circuit held that the admission of the caseworker’s testimony about the 
interview violated the defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-
incrimination.  Jackson v. Conway at 135-140. 
{¶ 51} As the majority opinion in the court of appeals here emphasized: it 
“is absolutely undisputed” that if law-enforcement officers conducted interviews in 
the manner in which Mack did, the practice would violate the Fifth Amendment.  
2016-Ohio-8144, 75 N.E.3d 922, ¶ 20.  Given the facts of this case, Mack was the 
functional equivalent of a law-enforcement agent and absent Miranda warnings, 
her interrogation of Jackson violated his right against self-incrimination.  “Any 
other conclusion would allow the State to ignore a defendant’s constitutional rights 
merely by having the interrogation conducted by someone who lacks the title ‘law 
enforcement officer’ but who is otherwise performing the interrogation of such an 
officer.”  State v. Deases, 518 N.W.2d 784, 790 (Iowa 1994) (concluding that 
“when a state official conducts a custodial interrogation that would require a 
Miranda warning if undertaken by a police officer, then the official is similarly 
required to give a Miranda warning”). 
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{¶ 52} Based on all of the above, the admission of Mack’s testimony 
violated Jackson’s Fifth Amendment right to be free from compelled self-
incrimination. 
{¶ 53} I would also affirm the court of appeals’ conclusion that the 
admission of Mack’s testimony violated Jackson’s Sixth Amendment right to 
counsel.  “The Sixth Amendment protects the right of the accused not to be 
confronted by an agent of the State regarding matters as to which the right to 
counsel has attached without counsel being present.”  (Emphasis added.)  Maine v. 
Moulton, 474 U.S. 159, 177, 106 S.Ct. 477, 88 L.Ed.2d 481 (1985), fn. 14.  “[O]nce 
the adversary judicial process has been initiated, the Sixth Amendment guarantees 
a defendant the right to have counsel present at all ‘critical’ stages of the criminal 
proceedings.  Interrogation by the State is such a stage.”  (Citations omitted.)  
Montejo v. Louisiana, 556 U.S. 778, 786, 129 S.Ct. 2079, 173 L.Ed.2d 955 (2009). 
{¶ 54} The state does not dispute that Jackson was subjected to a custodial 
interrogation.  Mack’s interview with Jackson took place after he had been 
arraigned and after he had invoked his Miranda rights when a detective attempted 
to interrogate him at the jail.  Significantly (in light of Jackson’s prior invocation 
of Miranda), the record fails to demonstrate that Mack Mirandized him or asked 
him whether he wanted an attorney present.  Based on all of the above, the 
admission of Mack’s testimony violated Jackson’s Sixth Amendment right to 
counsel. 
{¶ 55} In sum, based on the totality of the circumstances in this case, I 
would conclude that Mack was functioning as an agent of law enforcement for 
purposes of the Fifth and Sixth Amendments to the United States Constitution when 
she questioned Jackson.  Therefore, I would affirm the judgment of the court of 
appeals. 
{¶ 56} Respectfully, I dissent. 
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Michael C. O’Malley, Cuyahoga County Prosecuting Attorney, and 
Anthony T. Miranda, Assistant Prosecuting Attorney, for appellant. 
 
Jonathan N. Garver, for appellee. 
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