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So I decided to try [this goofy thing](https://www.cold-takes.com/replies-to-ancient-tweets/) where I excerpt the tweets and give my replies on a Cold Takes page. The vibe I'm going for here is kind of like if someone delivered a sick burn in person, then received a FAX 6 years later saying "Fair point - but have you considered that it takes one to know one?" or something. You can check out [Ezra Klein's interesting thoughts on](https://www.cold-takes.com/replies-to-ancient-tweets/#20211130-1) my [Rowing, Steering, Anchoring, Equity, Mutiny](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/) post (and my brief reply), and my [reply to criticism from Will Buckner](https://www.cold-takes.com/replies-to-ancient-tweets/#20211130-2) on my [Pre-agriculture gender relations seem bad](https://www.cold-takes.com/hunter-gatherer-gender-relations-seem-bad/) post. Also, [someone with a ~million followers](https://twitter.com/stevenbjohnson) liked my [post using a boat as a metaphor for different worldviews](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/) because … it made him think of innovations in governance that took place aboard pirate ships? [See thread](https://twitter.com/stevenbjohnson/status/1468611092025077761). Not exactly what I was going for, but OK! [Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-<PHONE>/Married-couples-meet-online-SIX-times-likely-divorce.html): "Married couples who meet online are SIX times more likely to divorce in the first three years than those who meet through family or friends, study finds." [Actual "paper"](https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/MF-Risk-of-online-weddings-v6.pdf): looks like online dating is gaining mostly at the expense of meeting people in bars and other casual situations, and that the 10-year divorce rates are similar, although more of the divorces for online couples are concentrated in the first three years: ![](https://www.cold-takes.com/content/images/size/w1000/2021/12/marriage20211217.png) I have many questions about the rigor of this research, just based on the format and the [source](https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/about-us/), but this looks more encouraging than discouraging. (See my [previous speculations on relationship quality trends](https://www.cold-takes.com/has-life-gotten-better-the-post-industrial-era#matching)) Very interesting tweet with four charts where [official forecasts seem to have repeatedly missed in the same direction](https://twitter.com/XiXiDu/status/1455155157977739265). I do wish it were better-sourced. The Federal Reserve one and the IEA one would've about matched what I would've independently guessed so there's that. [WHAT are these basketball passes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8G7STWwLkE&ab;_channel=HouseofHighlights). They are all from the same game (a real game, a blowout but not officially a stunt show). I was watching and saying "No?!" and "You can't do that" out loud. ["Things I like about jargon."](https://twitter.com/ChanaMessinger/status/1462827038805475328) (I don't agree with all of this, but generally think jargon terms with relatively simple, findable definitions seem like more of a good idea than a bad idea.) [Matt Yglesias on AI risk](https://www.slowboring.com/p/on-what-matters): > Also bleak is the artificial intelligence situation. I don't write takes about how we should all be more worried about an out-of-control AI situation, but that's because I know several smart people who do write those takes, and unfortunately they do not have much in the way of smart, tractable policy ideas to actually address it. It's not like pandemics where we have the smart PDF and need to kick Congress' ass to get them to actually do it. There is no great PDF here, in part because the international dimensions of the problem are very hard to grapple with. To me, it seems important to know that Matt Yglesias thinks this is a serious issue, even though (as I [do concede](https://www.cold-takes.com/call-to-vigilance/)) there is no PDF ready to go! 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So I decided to try [this goofy thing](https://www.cold-takes.com/replies-to-ancient-tweets/) where I excerpt the tweets and give my replies on a Cold Takes page. The vibe I’m going for here is kind of like if someone delivered a sick burn in person, then received a FAX 6 years later saying “Fair point - but have you considered that it takes one to know one?” or something. You can check out [Ezra Klein's interesting thoughts on](https://www.cold-takes.com/replies-to-ancient-tweets/#20211130-1) my [Rowing, Steering, Anchoring, Equity, Mutiny](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/) post (and my brief reply), and my [reply to criticism from Will Buckner](https://www.cold-takes.com/replies-to-ancient-tweets/#20211130-2) on my [Pre-agriculture gender relations seem bad](https://www.cold-takes.com/hunter-gatherer-gender-relations-seem-bad/) post. Also, [someone with a ~million followers](https://twitter.com/stevenbjohnson) liked my [post using a boat as a metaphor for different worldviews](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/) because … it made him think of innovations in governance that took place aboard pirate ships? [See thread](https://twitter.com/stevenbjohnson/status/1468611092025077761). Not exactly what I was going for, but OK! [Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10148593/Married-couples-meet-online-SIX-times-likely-divorce.html): "Married couples who meet online are SIX times more likely to divorce in the first three years than those who meet through family or friends, study finds." [Actual "paper"](https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/MF-Risk-of-online-weddings-v6.pdf): looks like online dating is gaining mostly at the expense of meeting people in bars and other casual situations, and that the 10-year divorce rates are similar, although more of the divorces for online couples are concentrated in the first three years: ![](https://www.cold-takes.com/content/images/size/w1000/2021/12/marriage20211217.png) I have many questions about the rigor of this research, just based on the format and the [source](https://marriagefoundation.org.uk/about-us/), but this looks more encouraging than discouraging. (See my [previous speculations on relationship quality trends](https://www.cold-takes.com/has-life-gotten-better-the-post-industrial-era#matching)) Very interesting tweet with four charts where [official forecasts seem to have repeatedly missed in the same direction](https://twitter.com/XiXiDu/status/1455155157977739265). I do wish it were better-sourced. The Federal Reserve one and the IEA one would've about matched what I would've independently guessed so there's that. [WHAT are these basketball passes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8G7STWwLkE&ab;_channel=HouseofHighlights). They are all from the same game (a real game, a blowout but not officially a stunt show). I was watching and saying "No?!" and "You can't do that" out loud. ["Things I like about jargon."](https://twitter.com/ChanaMessinger/status/1462827038805475328) (I don't agree with all of this, but generally think jargon terms with relatively simple, findable definitions seem like more of a good idea than a bad idea.) [Matt Yglesias on AI risk](https://www.slowboring.com/p/on-what-matters): > Also bleak is the artificial intelligence situation. I don’t write takes about how we should all be more worried about an out-of-control AI situation, but that’s because I know several smart people who do write those takes, and unfortunately they do not have much in the way of smart, tractable policy ideas to actually address it. It’s not like pandemics where we have the smart PDF and need to kick Congress’ ass to get them to actually do it. There is no great PDF here, in part because the international dimensions of the problem are very hard to grapple with. To me, it seems important to know that Matt Yglesias thinks this is a serious issue, even though (as I [do concede](https://www.cold-takes.com/call-to-vigilance/)) there is no PDF ready to go! 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(I [know the title and what people say about it](https://www.cold-takes.com/reading-books-vs-engaging-with-them/))* I want to watch a space opera with a number of interplanetary civilizations locked in a centuries-long death match, knowing that whoever can wipe the others out will control the cosmos forever, and knowing that their odds of supremacy pretty much boil down to recruiting scientists, soldiers, etc. to leave the other civilizations and immigrate to theirs.[1](#fn1) So like: the Va-arlox spend most of their energy thinking about how they can make their planets more welcoming and appealing for the J'ghaar, how they can create enticing compensation and benefits offers, how they can phrase their civilizational values and goals in terms that J'ghaar can feel OK with, how to run successful missions to make friends with J'ghaar and convince them to relocate to Va-arlox planets, etc. etc. When they get a bunch of J'ghaar to immigrate, they high-five knowing that they've just pumped up their long-term prospects of having more scientists, more soldiers, etc. and winning the interplanetary war. (Hmm, minus the war part, this may be a world I'd like to live in as well as a show I'd like to watch.) The battle scenes are pretty short. Whoever's ahead in immigration generally has better and more spaceships, so they win the battle pretty easily. My favorite episode is the one where a few Va-arlox fall into a wormhole and end up on today's Earth, in the U.S. They visit the Pentagon and initially feel right at home with all the people furiously brainstorming about how to achieve American hegemony over China, Russia, etc. But then they ask some curious questions like "So how are you getting more Chinese people to relocate to America?" and they hear "Oh that's not the goal at all, in fact we turn away almost everyone who wants to come here." 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If you're asking "Wait, why would someone immigrate to an alien civilization that is enemies with their home civilization?" think about real life instead of existing sci-fi shows. This is totally something individuals would do. [↩](#fnref1)- I focused on military consequences of immigration because sci-fi shows are usually about war, not because I think this is the only or best reason to increase immigration. 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(Hmm, minus the war part, this may be a world I’d like to live in as well as a show I’d like to watch.) The battle scenes are pretty short. Whoever’s ahead in immigration generally has better and more spaceships, so they win the battle pretty easily. My favorite episode is the one where a few Va-arlox fall into a wormhole and end up on today’s Earth, in the U.S. They visit the Pentagon and initially feel right at home with all the people furiously brainstorming about how to achieve American hegemony over China, Russia, etc. But then they ask some curious questions like “So how are you getting more Chinese people to relocate to America?” and they hear “Oh that’s not the goal at all, in fact we turn away almost everyone who wants to come here.” And they’re SO confused, the look on their faces is the best.[2](#fn2) [![Twitter](https://www.cold-takes.com/content/images/2021/06/ct-twitter-square.png)](https://api.addthis.com/oexchange/0.8/forward/twitter/offer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cold-takes.com%2Ftv-shows-i-wish-i-could-watch-intergalactic-immigration-wars%2F&pubid;=ra-60a178324cffc42e&title;=Cold%20Takes%20-%20TV%20shows%20I%20wish%20I%20could%20watch%3A%20Intergalactic%20Immigration%20Wars&ct;=1) [![Facebook](https://www.cold-takes.com/content/images/2021/06/ct-facebook-square.png)](https://api.addthis.com/oexchange/0.8/forward/facebook/offer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cold-takes.com%2Ftv-shows-i-wish-i-could-watch-intergalactic-immigration-wars%2F&pubid;=ra-60a178324cffc42e&title;=Cold%20Takes%20-%20TV%20shows%20I%20wish%20I%20could%20watch%3A%20Intergalactic%20Immigration%20Wars&ct;=1) [![Reddit](https://www.cold-takes.com/content/images/2021/06/ct-reddit-square.png)](https://api.addthis.com/oexchange/0.8/forward/reddit/offer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cold-takes.com%2Ftv-shows-i-wish-i-could-watch-intergalactic-immigration-wars%2F&pubid;=ra-60a178324cffc42e&title;=Cold%20Takes%20-%20TV%20shows%20I%20wish%20I%20could%20watch%3A%20Intergalactic%20Immigration%20Wars&ct;=1) [![More](https://www.cold-takes.com/content/images/2021/06/ct-addthis-square.png)](https://api.addthis.com/oexchange/0.8/forward/menu/offer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cold-takes.com%2Ftv-shows-i-wish-i-could-watch-intergalactic-immigration-wars%2F&pubid;=ra-60a178324cffc42e&title;=Cold%20Takes%20-%20TV%20shows%20I%20wish%20I%20could%20watch%3A%20Intergalactic%20Immigration%20Wars&ct;=1) \--- Footnotes \--------- 1\. If you’re asking “Wait, why would someone immigrate to an alien civilization that is enemies with their home civilization?” think about real life instead of existing sci-fi shows. This is totally something individuals would do. [↩](#fnref1)- I focused on military consequences of immigration because sci-fi shows are usually about war, not because I think this is the only or best reason to increase immigration. 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