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I've argued that the development of advanced AI could make this the most
important century [https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/] for
humanity. A common reaction to this idea is one laid out by Tyler Cowen here
[https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/02/are-nuclear-weapons-or-rogue-ai-the-more-dangerous-existential-risk.html]
: "how good were past thinkers at predicting the future? 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Fine By [Holden Karnofsky](https://www.cold-takes.com/about/ "Holden Karnofsky") Jun 30, 2022 14 min read The Track Record of Futurists Seems ... Fine ============================================ ![The Track Record of Futurists Seems ... Fine](/content/images/size/w960/2022/06/image1-2.png) *Click lower right to download or find on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, etc.* I've argued that the development of advanced AI could make this the [most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) for humanity. A common reaction to this idea is one laid out by Tyler Cowen [here](https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/02/are-nuclear-weapons-or-rogue-ai-the-more-dangerous-existential-risk.html): "how good were past thinkers at predicting the future? Don't just select on those who are famous because they got some big things right." This is a common reason people give for being skeptical about the [most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) - and, often, for skepticism about pretty much any attempt at *futurism* (trying to predict key events in the world a long time from now) or *[steering](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/#steering)* (trying to help the world navigate such key future events). The idea is something like: "Even if we can't identify a particular weakness in [arguments](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/) about key future events, perhaps we should be skeptical of our own ability to say anything meaningful at all about the long-run future. Hence, perhaps we should forget about theories of the future and focus on reducing suffering today, [generally increasing humanity's capabilities](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/#rowing), etc." **But *are* people generally bad at predicting future events?** Including thoughtful people who are trying reasonably hard to be right? If we look back at prominent futurists' predictions, what's the actual track record? How bad is the situation? I've looked pretty far and wide for [systematic](https://www.cold-takes.com/has-life-gotten-better-the-post-industrial-era/#the-basic-approach) answers to this question, and [Open Philanthropy](https://openphilanthropy.org/)'s[1](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn1) Luke Muehlhauser has put a fair amount of effort into researching it; I discuss what we've found in an [appendix](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#appendix-other-studies-of-the-track-record). So far, we haven't turned up a whole lot - the main observation is that it's hard to judge the track record of futurists. (Luke discusses the difficulties [here](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/how-feasible-long-range-forecasting).) Recently, I worked with Gavin Leech and Misha Yagudin at [Arb Research](https://twitter.com/ArbResearch) to take another crack at this. I tried to keep things simpler than with past attempts - to look at a few past futurists who (a) had predicted things "kind of like" advances in AI (rather than e.g. predicting trends in world population); (b) probably were reasonably thoughtful about it; but (c) are very clearly not "just selected on those who are famous because they got things right." So, I asked Arb to look at **predictions made by the ["Big Three"](https://www.google.com/search?q=big+three+sci+fi) science fiction writers of the mid-20th century:** Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, and Robert Heinlein. These are people who thought a lot about science and the future, and made lots of predictions about future technologies - but they're famous for how *entertaining their fiction was at the time*, not how good their nonfiction predictions look in hindsight. I selected them by vaguely remembering that "the Big Three of science fiction" is a thing people say sometimes, googling it, and going with who came up - no hunting around for lots of sci-fi authors and picking the best or worst.[2](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn2) So I think their track record should give us a decent sense for "what to expect from people who are not professional, specialized or notably lucky forecasters but are just giving it a reasonably thoughtful try." As I'll discuss [below](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#todays-futurism-vs-these-predictions), I think this is many ways "unfair" as a comparison to today's forecasts about AI: I think these predictions are much less serious, less carefully considered and involve less work (especially work weighing different people and arguments against each other). But my takeaway is that **their track record looks ... fine!** They made lots of pretty detailed, nonobvious-seeming predictions about the long-run future (30+, often 50+ years out); results ranged from "very impressive" (Asimov got about half of his right, with very nonobvious-seeming predictions) to "bad" (Heinlein was closer to 35%, and his hits don't seem very good) to "somewhere in between" (Clarke had a similar hit rate to Asimov, but his correct predictions don't seem as impressive). There are a number of seemingly impressive predictions and seemingly embarrassing ones. (How do we determine what level of accuracy would be "fine" vs. "bad?" Unfortunately there's no clear quantitative benchmark - I think we just have to look at the predictions ourselves, how hard they seemed / how similar to today's predictions about AI, and make a judgment call. I could easily imagine others having a different interpretation than mine, which is why I give examples and link to the full prediction sets. I talk about this a bit more [below](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#how-to-judge).) They weren't infallible oracles, but they weren't blindly casting about either. (Well, maybe Heinlein was.) Collectively, I think you could call them "mediocre," but you can't call them "hopeless" or "clueless" or "a warning sign to all who dare predict the long-run future." Overall, **I think they did about as well as you might naively**[3](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn3) **guess a reasonably thoughtful person would do at some random thing they tried to do?** Below, I'll: * Summarize the **track records of Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein,** while linking to Arb's full report. * Comment on **why I think key [predictions about transformative AI](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/) are probably better bets than the Asimov/Clarke/Heinlein predictions** - although ultimately, if they're merely "equally good bets," I think that's enough to support my case that we should be paying a lot more attention to the ["most important century"](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) hypothesis. * Summarize other existing research on the track record of futurists, which I think is broadly consistent with this take (though mostly ambiguous). For this investigation, Arb very quickly (in about 8 weeks) dug through many old sources, used pattern-matching and manual effort to find predictions, and worked with contractors to score the hundreds of predictions they found. Big thanks to them! Their full report is [here](https://arbresearch.com/files/big_three.pdf). Note this bit: "If you spot something off, we'll pay $5 per cell we update as a result. We'll add all criticisms – where we agree and update or reject it – to this document for transparency." The track records of the "Big Three" \------------------------------------ ### Quick summary of how Arb created the data set Arb collected "digital copies of as much of their [Asimov's, Clarke's, Heinlein's] nonfiction as possible (books, essays, interviews). The resulting intake is 475 files covering ~33% of their nonfiction corpuses." Arb then used pattern-matching and manual inspection to pull out all of the predictions it could find, and scored these predictions by: * How many years away the prediction appeared to be. (Most did not have clear dates attached; in these cases Arb generally filled the average time horizon for predictions from the same author that *did* have clear dates attached.) * Whether the prediction now appears correct, incorrect, or ambiguous. (I didn't always agree with these scorings, but I generally have felt that "correct" predictions at least look "impressive and not silly" while "incorrect" predictions at least look "dicey.") * Whether the prediction was a pure prediction about what technology could do (most relevant), a prediction about the interaction of technology and the economy (medium), or a prediction about the interaction of technology and culture (least relevant). Predictions with no bearing on technology were dropped. * How "difficult" the prediction was (that is, how much the scorers guessed it diverged from conventional wisdom or "the obvious" at the time - details in footnote[4](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn4)). Importantly, **fiction was never used as a source of predictions,** so this exercise is explicitly scoring people on what they were *not* famous for. This is more like an assessment of "whether people who like thinking about the future make good predictions" than an assessment of "whether professional or specialized forecasters make good predictions." For reasons I touch on in an [appendix below](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#appendix-other-studies-of-the-track-record), I didn't ask Arb to try to identify how confident the Big Three were about their predictions. I'm more interested in whether their predictions were *nonobvious and sometimes correct* than in whether they *were self-aware about their own uncertainty;* I see these as different issues, and I suspect that past norms discouraged the latter more than today's norms do (at least within communities interested in [Bayesian mindset](https://www.cold-takes.com/the-bayesian-mindset/) and the [science of forecasting](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/efforts-improve-accuracy-our-judgments-and-forecasts#Calibration_training)). More detail in [Arb's report](https://arbresearch.com/files/big_three.pdf). ### The numbers The tables below summarize the numbers I think give the best high-level picture. See the [full report](https://arbresearch.com/files/big_three.pdf) and [detailed files](https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1d6DEM79aSDUkSR6SEsmr1uR_yYAEXUCM) for the raw predictions and a number of other cuts; there are a lot of ways you can slice the data, but I don't think it changes the picture from what I give below. Below, I present each predictor's track record on: * "All predictions": all resolved predictions 30 years out or more,[5](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn5) including predictions where Arb had to fill in a time horizon. * "Tech predictions": like the above, but restricted to predictions specifically about technological capabilities (as opposed to technology/economy interactions or technology/culture interactions. * "Difficult predictions" predictions with "difficulty" of 4/5 or 5/5. * "Difficult + tech + definite date": the small set of predictions that met the strictest criteria (tech only, "hardness" 4/5 or 5/5, definite date attached). **[Asimov](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MR3MIFxKyRUpU00OTg1__FMvPkTscA5JSUG_kGaGadc/edit?usp=sharing)** | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | **Category** | **# correct** | **# incorrect** | **# ambiguous/near-miss** | **Correct / (correct + incorrect)** | | All resolvedpredictions | 23 | 29 | 14 | 44.23% | | Tech predictions | 11 | 4 | 8 | 73.33% | | Difficult predictions | 10 | 11 | 7 | 47.62% | | Difficult + tech + definite date | 5 | 1 | 4 | 83.33% | You can see the full set of predictions [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MR3MIFxKyRUpU00OTg1__FMvPkTscA5JSUG_kGaGadc/edit?usp=sharing), but to give a flavor, here are two "correct" and two "incorrect" predictions from the strictest category.[6](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn6) All of these are predictions Asimov made in 1964, about the year 2014 (unless otherwise indicated). * Correct: "only unmanned ships will have landed on Mars, though a manned expedition will be in the works." Bingo, and impressive IMO. * Correct: "the screen [of a phone] can be used not only to see the people you call but also for studying documents and photographs and reading passages from books." I feel like this would've been an impressive prediction in 2004. * Incorrect: "there will be increasing emphasis on transportation that makes the least possible contact with the surface. There will be aircraft, of course, but even ground travel will increasingly take to the air a foot or two off the ground." So false that we now refer to things that don't hover as "hoverboards." * Incorrect: "transparent cubes will be making their appearance in which three-dimensional viewing will be possible. In fact, one popular exhibit at the 2014 World's Fair will be such a 3-D TV, built life-size, in which ballet performances will be seen. The cube will slowly revolve for viewing from all angles." Doesn't seem ridiculous, but doesn't seem right. Of course, a side point here is that he refers to the 2014 World's Fair, which [didn't happen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world%27s_fairs). A general challenge with assessing prediction track records is that we don't know what to compare someone's track record to. Is getting about half your predictions right "good," or is it no more impressive than writing down a bunch of things that might happen and flipping a coin on each? I think this comes down to *how difficult the predictions are*, which is hard to assess systematically. A nice thing about this study is that there are enough predictions to get a decent sample size, but the whole thing is contained enough that you can get a good qualitative feel for the predictions themselves. (This is why I give examples; you can also view all predictions for a given person by clicking on their name above the table.) In this case, I think Asimov tends to make nonobvious, detailed predictions, such that I consider it impressive to have gotten ~half of them to be right. **[Clarke](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB6mz3vjkpyffTdYCQdyeJbcI8mA631Jj3JBKQpUiNg/edit?usp=sharing)** | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | **Category** | **# correct** | **# incorrect** | **# ambiguous/near-miss** | **Correct / (correct + incorrect)** | | All predictions | 129 | 148 | 48 | 46.57% | | Tech predictions | 85 | 82 | 29 | 50.90% | | Difficult predictions | 14 | 10 | 4 | 58.33% | | Difficult + tech + definite date | 6 | 5 | 2 | 54.55% | Examples (as above):[7](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn7) * Correct 1964 prediction about 2000: "[Communications satellites] will make possible a world in which we can make instant contact with each other wherever we may be. Where we can contact our friends anywhere on Earth, even if we don't know their actual physical location. It will be possible in that age, perhaps only fifty years from now, for a [person] to conduct [their] business from Tahiti or Bali just as well as [they] could from London." (I assume that "conduct [their] business" refers to a business call rather than some sort of holistic claim that no productivity would be lost from remote work.) * Correct 1950 prediction about 2000: "Indeed, it may be assumed as fairly certain that the first reconnaissances of the planets will be by orbiting rockets which do not attempt a landing-perhaps expendable, unmanned machines with elaborate telemetering and television equipment." This doesn't seem like a super-bold prediction; a lot of his correct predictions have a general flavor of saying progress won't be *too* exciting, and I find these less impressive than most of Asimov's correct predictions. * Incorrect 1960 prediction about 2010: "One can imagine, perhaps before the end of this century, huge general-purpose factories using cheap power from thermonuclear reactors to extract pure water, salt, magnesium, bromine, strontium, rubidium, copper and many other metals from the sea. A notable exception from the list would be iron, which is far rarer in the oceans than under the continents." * Incorrect 1949 prediction about 1983: "Before this story is twice its present age, we will have robot explorers dotted all over Mars." I generally found this data set less satisfying/educational than Asimov's: a lot of the predictions were pretty deep in the weeds of how rocketry might work or something, and a lot of them seemed pretty hard to interpret/score. I thought the bad predictions were pretty bad, and the good predictions were sometimes good but generally less impressive than Asimov's. **[Heinlein](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1in8dvIr_siwwt3pA0YUGZ-2nqgt2gNo8FZ7ciiIwlWI/edit?usp=sharing)** | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | **Category** | **# correct** | **# incorrect** | **# ambiguous/near-miss** | **Correct / (correct + incorrect)** | | All predictions | 19 | 41 | 7 | 31.67% | | Tech predictions | 14 | 20 | 6 | 41.18% | | Difficult predictions | 1 | 16 | 1 | 5.88% | | Difficult + tech + definite date | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.00% | This seems really bad, especially adjusted for difficulty: many of the "correct" ones seem either hard-to-interpret or just very obvious (e.g., no time travel). I was impressed by his prediction that "we probably will still be after a cure for the common cold" until I saw a prediction in a separate source saying "Cancer, the common cold, and tooth decay will all be conquered." Overall it seems like he did a lot of predicting outlandish stuff about space travel, and then anti-predicting things that are probably just impossible (e.g., no time travel). He did have some decent ones, though, such as: "By 2000 A.D. we will know a great deal about how the brain functions ... whereas in 1900 what little we knew was wrong. I do not predict that the basic mystery of psychology--how mass arranged in certain complex patterns becomes aware of itself--will be solved by 2000 A.D. I hope so but do not expect it." He also predicted no human extinction and no end to war - I'd guess a lot of people disagreed with these at the time. ### Overall picture Looks like, of the "big three," we have: * One (Asimov) who looks quite impressive - plenty of misses, but a 50% hit rate on such nonobvious predictions seems pretty great. * One (Heinlein) who looks pretty unserious and inaccurate. * One (Clarke) who's a bit hard to judge but seems pretty solid overall (around half of his predictions look to be right, and they tend to be pretty nonobvious). Today's futurism vs. these predictions \-------------------------------------- The above collect casual predictions - no probabilities given, little-to-no reasoning given, no apparent attempt to collect evidence and weigh arguments - by professional fiction writers. Contrast this situation with my summary of the [different lines of reasoning forecasting transformative AI](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/). The latter includes: * Systematic surveys aggregating opinions from hundreds of AI researchers. * Reports that [Open Philanthropy](https://www.openphilanthropy.org) employees spent thousands of hours on, systematically presenting evidence and considering arguments and counterarguments. * A serious attempt to take advantage of the nascent [literature on how to make good predictions](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/efforts-improve-accuracy-our-judgments-and-forecasts); e.g., the authors (and I) have generally done [calibration training](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/efforts-improve-accuracy-our-judgments-and-forecasts#Calibration_training),[8](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn8) and have tried to use the language of probability to be specific about our uncertainty. There's plenty of room for debate on how much these measures should be expected to improve our foresight, compared to what the "Big Three" were doing. My guess is that we should take [forecasts about transformative AI](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/) a lot more seriously, partly because I think there's a big difference between putting in "extremely little effort" (basically guessing off the cuff without serious time examining arguments and counter-arguments, which is my impression of what the Big Three were mostly doing) and "putting in moderate effort" (considering expert opinion, surveying arguments and counter-arguments, explicitly thinking about one's degree of uncertainty). But the "extremely little effort" version doesn't really look that bad. If you look at forecasts about transformative AI and think "Maybe these are Asimov-ish predictions that have about a 50% hit rate on hard questions; maybe these are Heinlein-ish predictions that are basically crap," that still seems good enough to take the "[most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/)" hypothesis seriously. Appendix: other studies of the track record of futurism \------------------------------------------------------- A [2013 project assessed Ray Kurzweil's 1999 predictions about 2009](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kbA6T3xpxtko36GgP/assessing-kurzweil-the-results), and a 2020 followup assessed his [1999 predictions about 2019](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NcGBmDEe5qXB7dFBF/assessing-kurzweil-predictions-about-2019-the-results). Kurzweil is known for being *interesting at the time* rather than being *right with hindsight*, and a large number of predictions were found and scored, so I consider this study to have similar advantages to the above study. * The first set of predictions (about 2009, 10-year horizon) had about as many "true or weakly true" predictions as "false or weakly false" predictions. * The second (about 2019, 20-year horizon) was much worse, with 52% of predictions flatly "false," and "false or weakly false" predictions outnumbering "true or weakly true" predictions by almost 3-to-1. Kurzweil is notorious for his very bold and contrarian predictions, and I'm overall inclined to call his track record something between "mediocre" and "fine" - too aggressive overall, but with some notable hits. (I think if the [most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) hypothesis ends up true, he'll broadly look pretty prescient, just on the early side; if it doesn't, he'll broadly look quite off base. But that's TBD.) A [2002 paper](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/evaluation-some-technology-forecasts-year-2000#sourceAlbright), summarized by Luke Muehlhauser [here](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/evaluation-some-technology-forecasts-year-2000), assessed the track record of *The Year 2000* by Herman Kahn and Anthony Wiener, "one of the most famous and respected products of professional futurism." * About 45% of the forecasts were judged as accurate. * Luke concludes that Kahn and Wiener were grossly overconfident, because he interprets them as making predictions with 90-95% confidence. * My takeaway is a bit different. I see a recurring theme that people often get 40-50% hit rates on interesting predictions about the future, but sometimes present these predictions with great confidence (which makes them look foolish). * I think we can separate "Past forecasters were overconfident" (which I suspect is partly due to [clear expression and quantification of uncertainty](https://www.cold-takes.com/the-bayesian-mindset/) being uncommon and/or discouraged in relevant contexts) from "Past forecasters weren't able to make interesting predictions that were reasonably likely to be right." The former seems true to me, but the latter doesn't. Luke's [2019 survey on the track record of futurism](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/how-feasible-long-range-forecasting) identifies two other relevant papers ([here](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040162518304438) and [here](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040162512002818)); I haven't read these beyond the abstracts, but their overall accuracy rates were 76% and 37%, respectively. It's difficult to interpret those numbers without having a feel for how challenging the predictions were. A [2021 EA Forum post](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/hqkyaHLQhzuREcXSX/data-on-forecasting-accuracy-across-different-time-horizons) looks at the aggregate track record of forecasters on PredictionBook and Metaculus, including specific analysis of forecasts 5+ years out, though I don't find it easy to draw conclusions about whether the performance was "good" or "bad" (or how similar the questions were to the ones I care about). 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Disclosure: I'm co-CEO of Open Philanthropy. [↩](#fnref1)- I also briefly Googled for their predictions to get a preliminary sense of whether they were the kinds of predictions that seemed relevant. I found a couple of articles listing a few examples of good and bad predictions, but nothing systematic. I claim I haven't done a similar exercise with anyone else and thrown it out. [↩](#fnref2)- That is, if we didn't have a lot of memes in the background about how hard it is to predict the future. [↩](#fnref3)- 1 - was already generally known 2 - was expert consensus 3 - speculative but on trend 4 - above trend, or oddly detailed 5 - prescient, no trend to go off [↩](#fnref4) \- Very few predictions in the data set are for less than 30 years, and I just ignored them. [↩](#fnref5)- Asimov actually only had one incorrect prediction in this category, so for the 2nd incorrect prediction I used one with difficulty "3" instead of "4." [↩](#fnref6)- The first prediction in this list qualified for the strictest criteria when I first drafted this post, but it's now been rescored to difficulty=3/5, which I disagree with (I think it is an impressive prediction, more so than any of the remaining ones that qualify as difficulty=4/5). [↩](#fnref7)- Also see this report on calibration for Open Philanthropy grant investigators (though this is a different set of people from the people who researched transformative AI timelines). 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Fine By [Holden Karnofsky](https://www.cold-takes.com/about/ "Holden Karnofsky") Jun 30, 2022 14 min read The Track Record of Futurists Seems ... Fine ============================================ ![The Track Record of Futurists Seems ... Fine](/content/images/size/w960/2022/06/image1-2.png) *Click lower right to download or find on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, etc.* I've argued that the development of advanced AI could make this the [most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) for humanity. A common reaction to this idea is one laid out by Tyler Cowen [here](https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/02/are-nuclear-weapons-or-rogue-ai-the-more-dangerous-existential-risk.html): "how good were past thinkers at predicting the future? Don’t just select on those who are famous because they got some big things right." This is a common reason people give for being skeptical about the [most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) - and, often, for skepticism about pretty much any attempt at *futurism* (trying to predict key events in the world a long time from now) or *[steering](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/#steering)* (trying to help the world navigate such key future events). The idea is something like: "Even if we can't identify a particular weakness in [arguments](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/) about key future events, perhaps we should be skeptical of our own ability to say anything meaningful at all about the long-run future. Hence, perhaps we should forget about theories of the future and focus on reducing suffering today, [generally increasing humanity's capabilities](https://www.cold-takes.com/rowing-steering-anchoring-equity-mutiny/#rowing), etc." **But *are* people generally bad at predicting future events?** Including thoughtful people who are trying reasonably hard to be right? If we look back at prominent futurists' predictions, what's the actual track record? How bad is the situation? I've looked pretty far and wide for [systematic](https://www.cold-takes.com/has-life-gotten-better-the-post-industrial-era/#the-basic-approach) answers to this question, and [Open Philanthropy](https://openphilanthropy.org/)'s[1](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn1) Luke Muehlhauser has put a fair amount of effort into researching it; I discuss what we've found in an [appendix](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#appendix-other-studies-of-the-track-record). So far, we haven't turned up a whole lot - the main observation is that it's hard to judge the track record of futurists. (Luke discusses the difficulties [here](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/how-feasible-long-range-forecasting).) Recently, I worked with Gavin Leech and Misha Yagudin at [Arb Research](https://twitter.com/ArbResearch) to take another crack at this. I tried to keep things simpler than with past attempts - to look at a few past futurists who (a) had predicted things "kind of like" advances in AI (rather than e.g. predicting trends in world population); (b) probably were reasonably thoughtful about it; but (c) are very clearly not "just selected on those who are famous because they got things right." So, I asked Arb to look at **predictions made by the ["Big Three"](https://www.google.com/search?q=big+three+sci+fi) science fiction writers of the mid-20th century:** Isaac Asimov, Arthur C. Clarke, and Robert Heinlein. These are people who thought a lot about science and the future, and made lots of predictions about future technologies - but they're famous for how *entertaining their fiction was at the time*, not how good their nonfiction predictions look in hindsight. I selected them by vaguely remembering that "the Big Three of science fiction" is a thing people say sometimes, googling it, and going with who came up - no hunting around for lots of sci-fi authors and picking the best or worst.[2](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn2) So I think their track record should give us a decent sense for "what to expect from people who are not professional, specialized or notably lucky forecasters but are just giving it a reasonably thoughtful try." As I'll discuss [below](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#todays-futurism-vs-these-predictions), I think this is many ways "unfair" as a comparison to today's forecasts about AI: I think these predictions are much less serious, less carefully considered and involve less work (especially work weighing different people and arguments against each other). But my takeaway is that **their track record looks ... fine!** They made lots of pretty detailed, nonobvious-seeming predictions about the long-run future (30+, often 50+ years out); results ranged from "very impressive" (Asimov got about half of his right, with very nonobvious-seeming predictions) to "bad" (Heinlein was closer to 35%, and his hits don't seem very good) to "somewhere in between" (Clarke had a similar hit rate to Asimov, but his correct predictions don't seem as impressive). There are a number of seemingly impressive predictions and seemingly embarrassing ones. (How do we determine what level of accuracy would be "fine" vs. "bad?" Unfortunately there's no clear quantitative benchmark - I think we just have to look at the predictions ourselves, how hard they seemed / how similar to today's predictions about AI, and make a judgment call. I could easily imagine others having a different interpretation than mine, which is why I give examples and link to the full prediction sets. I talk about this a bit more [below](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#how-to-judge).) They weren't infallible oracles, but they weren't blindly casting about either. (Well, maybe Heinlein was.) Collectively, I think you could call them "mediocre," but you can't call them "hopeless" or "clueless" or "a warning sign to all who dare predict the long-run future." Overall, **I think they did about as well as you might naively**[3](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn3) **guess a reasonably thoughtful person would do at some random thing they tried to do?** Below, I'll: * Summarize the **track records of Asimov, Clarke and Heinlein,** while linking to Arb's full report. * Comment on **why I think key [predictions about transformative AI](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/) are probably better bets than the Asimov/Clarke/Heinlein predictions** - although ultimately, if they're merely "equally good bets," I think that's enough to support my case that we should be paying a lot more attention to the ["most important century"](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) hypothesis. * Summarize other existing research on the track record of futurists, which I think is broadly consistent with this take (though mostly ambiguous). For this investigation, Arb very quickly (in about 8 weeks) dug through many old sources, used pattern-matching and manual effort to find predictions, and worked with contractors to score the hundreds of predictions they found. Big thanks to them! Their full report is [here](https://arbresearch.com/files/big_three.pdf). Note this bit: "If you spot something off, we’ll pay $5 per cell we update as a result. We’ll add all criticisms – where we agree and update or reject it – to this document for transparency." The track records of the "Big Three" \------------------------------------ ### Quick summary of how Arb created the data set Arb collected "digital copies of as much of their [Asimov's, Clarke's, Heinlein's] nonfiction as possible (books, essays, interviews). The resulting intake is 475 files covering ~33% of their nonfiction corpuses." Arb then used pattern-matching and manual inspection to pull out all of the predictions it could find, and scored these predictions by: * How many years away the prediction appeared to be. (Most did not have clear dates attached; in these cases Arb generally filled the average time horizon for predictions from the same author that *did* have clear dates attached.) * Whether the prediction now appears correct, incorrect, or ambiguous. (I didn't always agree with these scorings, but I generally have felt that "correct" predictions at least look "impressive and not silly" while "incorrect" predictions at least look "dicey.") * Whether the prediction was a pure prediction about what technology could do (most relevant), a prediction about the interaction of technology and the economy (medium), or a prediction about the interaction of technology and culture (least relevant). Predictions with no bearing on technology were dropped. * How "difficult" the prediction was (that is, how much the scorers guessed it diverged from conventional wisdom or "the obvious" at the time - details in footnote[4](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn4)). Importantly, **fiction was never used as a source of predictions,** so this exercise is explicitly scoring people on what they were *not* famous for. This is more like an assessment of "whether people who like thinking about the future make good predictions" than an assessment of "whether professional or specialized forecasters make good predictions." For reasons I touch on in an [appendix below](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#appendix-other-studies-of-the-track-record), I didn't ask Arb to try to identify how confident the Big Three were about their predictions. I'm more interested in whether their predictions were *nonobvious and sometimes correct* than in whether they *were self-aware about their own uncertainty;* I see these as different issues, and I suspect that past norms discouraged the latter more than today's norms do (at least within communities interested in [Bayesian mindset](https://www.cold-takes.com/the-bayesian-mindset/) and the [science of forecasting](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/efforts-improve-accuracy-our-judgments-and-forecasts#Calibration_training)). More detail in [Arb's report](https://arbresearch.com/files/big_three.pdf). ### The numbers The tables below summarize the numbers I think give the best high-level picture. See the [full report](https://arbresearch.com/files/big_three.pdf) and [detailed files](https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1d6DEM79aSDUkSR6SEsmr1uR_yYAEXUCM) for the raw predictions and a number of other cuts; there are a lot of ways you can slice the data, but I don't think it changes the picture from what I give below. Below, I present each predictor's track record on: * "All predictions": all resolved predictions 30 years out or more,[5](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn5) including predictions where Arb had to fill in a time horizon. * "Tech predictions": like the above, but restricted to predictions specifically about technological capabilities (as opposed to technology/economy interactions or technology/culture interactions. * "Difficult predictions" predictions with "difficulty" of 4/5 or 5/5. * "Difficult + tech + definite date": the small set of predictions that met the strictest criteria (tech only, "hardness" 4/5 or 5/5, definite date attached). **[Asimov](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MR3MIFxKyRUpU00OTg1__FMvPkTscA5JSUG_kGaGadc/edit?usp=sharing)** | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | **Category** | **# correct** | **# incorrect** | **# ambiguous/near-miss** | **Correct / (correct + incorrect)** | | All resolvedpredictions | 23 | 29 | 14 | 44.23% | | Tech predictions | 11 | 4 | 8 | 73.33% | | Difficult predictions | 10 | 11 | 7 | 47.62% | | Difficult + tech + definite date | 5 | 1 | 4 | 83.33% | You can see the full set of predictions [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MR3MIFxKyRUpU00OTg1__FMvPkTscA5JSUG_kGaGadc/edit?usp=sharing), but to give a flavor, here are two "correct" and two "incorrect" predictions from the strictest category.[6](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn6) All of these are predictions Asimov made in 1964, about the year 2014 (unless otherwise indicated). * Correct: "only unmanned ships will have landed on Mars, though a manned expedition will be in the works." Bingo, and impressive IMO. * Correct: "the screen [of a phone] can be used not only to see the people you call but also for studying documents and photographs and reading passages from books." I feel like this would've been an impressive prediction in 2004. * Incorrect: "there will be increasing emphasis on transportation that makes the least possible contact with the surface. There will be aircraft, of course, but even ground travel will increasingly take to the air a foot or two off the ground." So false that we now refer to things that don't hover as "hoverboards." * Incorrect: "transparent cubes will be making their appearance in which three-dimensional viewing will be possible. In fact, one popular exhibit at the 2014 World's Fair will be such a 3-D TV, built life-size, in which ballet performances will be seen. The cube will slowly revolve for viewing from all angles." Doesn't seem ridiculous, but doesn't seem right. Of course, a side point here is that he refers to the 2014 World's Fair, which [didn't happen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world%27s_fairs). A general challenge with assessing prediction track records is that we don't know what to compare someone's track record to. Is getting about half your predictions right "good," or is it no more impressive than writing down a bunch of things that might happen and flipping a coin on each? I think this comes down to *how difficult the predictions are*, which is hard to assess systematically. A nice thing about this study is that there are enough predictions to get a decent sample size, but the whole thing is contained enough that you can get a good qualitative feel for the predictions themselves. (This is why I give examples; you can also view all predictions for a given person by clicking on their name above the table.) In this case, I think Asimov tends to make nonobvious, detailed predictions, such that I consider it impressive to have gotten ~half of them to be right. **[Clarke](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WB6mz3vjkpyffTdYCQdyeJbcI8mA631Jj3JBKQpUiNg/edit?usp=sharing)** | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | **Category** | **# correct** | **# incorrect** | **# ambiguous/near-miss** | **Correct / (correct + incorrect)** | | All predictions | 129 | 148 | 48 | 46.57% | | Tech predictions | 85 | 82 | 29 | 50.90% | | Difficult predictions | 14 | 10 | 4 | 58.33% | | Difficult + tech + definite date | 6 | 5 | 2 | 54.55% | Examples (as above):[7](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn7) * Correct 1964 prediction about 2000: "[Communications satellites] will make possible a world in which we can make instant contact with each other wherever we may be. Where we can contact our friends anywhere on Earth, even if we don’t know their actual physical location. It will be possible in that age, perhaps only fifty years from now, for a [person] to conduct [their] business from Tahiti or Bali just as well as [they] could from London." (I assume that "conduct [their] business" refers to a business call rather than some sort of holistic claim that no productivity would be lost from remote work.) * Correct 1950 prediction about 2000: "Indeed, it may be assumed as fairly certain that the first reconnaissances of the planets will be by orbiting rockets which do not attempt a landing-perhaps expendable, unmanned machines with elaborate telemetering and television equipment." This doesn't seem like a super-bold prediction; a lot of his correct predictions have a general flavor of saying progress won't be *too* exciting, and I find these less impressive than most of Asimov's correct predictions. * Incorrect 1960 prediction about 2010: "One can imagine, perhaps before the end of this century, huge general-purpose factories using cheap power from thermonuclear reactors to extract pure water, salt, magnesium, bromine, strontium, rubidium, copper and many other metals from the sea. A notable exception from the list would be iron, which is far rarer in the oceans than under the continents." * Incorrect 1949 prediction about 1983: "Before this story is twice its present age, we will have robot explorers dotted all over Mars." I generally found this data set less satisfying/educational than Asimov's: a lot of the predictions were pretty deep in the weeds of how rocketry might work or something, and a lot of them seemed pretty hard to interpret/score. I thought the bad predictions were pretty bad, and the good predictions were sometimes good but generally less impressive than Asimov's. **[Heinlein](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1in8dvIr_siwwt3pA0YUGZ-2nqgt2gNo8FZ7ciiIwlWI/edit?usp=sharing)** | | | | | | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | **Category** | **# correct** | **# incorrect** | **# ambiguous/near-miss** | **Correct / (correct + incorrect)** | | All predictions | 19 | 41 | 7 | 31.67% | | Tech predictions | 14 | 20 | 6 | 41.18% | | Difficult predictions | 1 | 16 | 1 | 5.88% | | Difficult + tech + definite date | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0.00% | This seems really bad, especially adjusted for difficulty: many of the "correct" ones seem either hard-to-interpret or just very obvious (e.g., no time travel). I was impressed by his prediction that "we probably will still be after a cure for the common cold" until I saw a prediction in a separate source saying "Cancer, the common cold, and tooth decay will all be conquered." Overall it seems like he did a lot of predicting outlandish stuff about space travel, and then anti-predicting things that are probably just impossible (e.g., no time travel). He did have some decent ones, though, such as: "By 2000 A.D. we will know a great deal about how the brain functions ... whereas in 1900 what little we knew was wrong. I do not predict that the basic mystery of psychology--how mass arranged in certain complex patterns becomes aware of itself--will be solved by 2000 A.D. I hope so but do not expect it." He also predicted no human extinction and no end to war - I'd guess a lot of people disagreed with these at the time. ### Overall picture Looks like, of the "big three," we have: * One (Asimov) who looks quite impressive - plenty of misses, but a 50% hit rate on such nonobvious predictions seems pretty great. * One (Heinlein) who looks pretty unserious and inaccurate. * One (Clarke) who's a bit hard to judge but seems pretty solid overall (around half of his predictions look to be right, and they tend to be pretty nonobvious). Today's futurism vs. these predictions \-------------------------------------- The above collect casual predictions - no probabilities given, little-to-no reasoning given, no apparent attempt to collect evidence and weigh arguments - by professional fiction writers. Contrast this situation with my summary of the [different lines of reasoning forecasting transformative AI](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/). The latter includes: * Systematic surveys aggregating opinions from hundreds of AI researchers. * Reports that [Open Philanthropy](https://www.openphilanthropy.org) employees spent thousands of hours on, systematically presenting evidence and considering arguments and counterarguments. * A serious attempt to take advantage of the nascent [literature on how to make good predictions](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/efforts-improve-accuracy-our-judgments-and-forecasts); e.g., the authors (and I) have generally done [calibration training](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/efforts-improve-accuracy-our-judgments-and-forecasts#Calibration_training),[8](https://www.cold-takes.com/p/4c722b8a-b321-4a7c-96ce-3878bd73b8fa/#fn8) and have tried to use the language of probability to be specific about our uncertainty. There's plenty of room for debate on how much these measures should be expected to improve our foresight, compared to what the "Big Three" were doing. My guess is that we should take [forecasts about transformative AI](https://www.cold-takes.com/where-ai-forecasting-stands-today/) a lot more seriously, partly because I think there's a big difference between putting in "extremely little effort" (basically guessing off the cuff without serious time examining arguments and counter-arguments, which is my impression of what the Big Three were mostly doing) and "putting in moderate effort" (considering expert opinion, surveying arguments and counter-arguments, explicitly thinking about one's degree of uncertainty). But the "extremely little effort" version doesn't really look that bad. If you look at forecasts about transformative AI and think "Maybe these are Asimov-ish predictions that have about a 50% hit rate on hard questions; maybe these are Heinlein-ish predictions that are basically crap," that still seems good enough to take the "[most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/)" hypothesis seriously. Appendix: other studies of the track record of futurism \------------------------------------------------------- A [2013 project assessed Ray Kurzweil's 1999 predictions about 2009](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/kbA6T3xpxtko36GgP/assessing-kurzweil-the-results), and a 2020 followup assessed his [1999 predictions about 2019](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NcGBmDEe5qXB7dFBF/assessing-kurzweil-predictions-about-2019-the-results). Kurzweil is known for being *interesting at the time* rather than being *right with hindsight*, and a large number of predictions were found and scored, so I consider this study to have similar advantages to the above study. * The first set of predictions (about 2009, 10-year horizon) had about as many "true or weakly true" predictions as "false or weakly false" predictions. * The second (about 2019, 20-year horizon) was much worse, with 52% of predictions flatly "false," and "false or weakly false" predictions outnumbering "true or weakly true" predictions by almost 3-to-1. Kurzweil is notorious for his very bold and contrarian predictions, and I'm overall inclined to call his track record something between "mediocre" and "fine" - too aggressive overall, but with some notable hits. (I think if the [most important century](https://www.cold-takes.com/most-important-century/) hypothesis ends up true, he'll broadly look pretty prescient, just on the early side; if it doesn't, he'll broadly look quite off base. But that's TBD.) A [2002 paper](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/evaluation-some-technology-forecasts-year-2000#sourceAlbright), summarized by Luke Muehlhauser [here](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/evaluation-some-technology-forecasts-year-2000), assessed the track record of *The Year 2000* by Herman Kahn and Anthony Wiener, "one of the most famous and respected products of professional futurism." * About 45% of the forecasts were judged as accurate. * Luke concludes that Kahn and Wiener were grossly overconfident, because he interprets them as making predictions with 90-95% confidence. * My takeaway is a bit different. I see a recurring theme that people often get 40-50% hit rates on interesting predictions about the future, but sometimes present these predictions with great confidence (which makes them look foolish). * I think we can separate "Past forecasters were overconfident" (which I suspect is partly due to [clear expression and quantification of uncertainty](https://www.cold-takes.com/the-bayesian-mindset/) being uncommon and/or discouraged in relevant contexts) from "Past forecasters weren't able to make interesting predictions that were reasonably likely to be right." The former seems true to me, but the latter doesn't. Luke's [2019 survey on the track record of futurism](https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/how-feasible-long-range-forecasting) identifies two other relevant papers ([here](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040162518304438) and [here](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0040162512002818)); I haven't read these beyond the abstracts, but their overall accuracy rates were 76% and 37%, respectively. It's difficult to interpret those numbers without having a feel for how challenging the predictions were. A [2021 EA Forum post](https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/hqkyaHLQhzuREcXSX/data-on-forecasting-accuracy-across-different-time-horizons) looks at the aggregate track record of forecasters on PredictionBook and Metaculus, including specific analysis of forecasts 5+ years out, though I don't find it easy to draw conclusions about whether the performance was "good" or "bad" (or how similar the questions were to the ones I care about). 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Disclosure: I'm co-CEO of Open Philanthropy. [↩](#fnref1)- I also briefly Googled for their predictions to get a preliminary sense of whether they were the kinds of predictions that seemed relevant. I found a couple of articles listing a few examples of good and bad predictions, but nothing systematic. I claim I haven't done a similar exercise with anyone else and thrown it out. [↩](#fnref2)- That is, if we didn't have a lot of memes in the background about how hard it is to predict the future. [↩](#fnref3)- 1 - was already generally known 2 - was expert consensus 3 - speculative but on trend 4 - above trend, or oddly detailed 5 - prescient, no trend to go off [↩](#fnref4) \- Very few predictions in the data set are for less than 30 years, and I just ignored them. [↩](#fnref5)- Asimov actually only had one incorrect prediction in this category, so for the 2nd incorrect prediction I used one with difficulty "3" instead of "4." [↩](#fnref6)- The first prediction in this list qualified for the strictest criteria when I first drafted this post, but it's now been rescored to difficulty=3/5, which I disagree with (I think it is an impressive prediction, more so than any of the remaining ones that qualify as difficulty=4/5). [↩](#fnref7)- Also see this report on calibration for Open Philanthropy grant investigators (though this is a different set of people from the people who researched transformative AI timelines). 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