* Z:\home\khalils\Downloads\files\data\raw_asc\2664c9af7202_10_1_Probe.asc
* Generated by LTspice 26.0.1 for Windows.
* .ac dec 500 0.1k 200MEG
* PROBE-B, 10:1, WITH LOSSY TRANSMISSION LINE Z=50 Ohm, R=100 Ohm/m
* PROBE-A, 10:1, WITH LOSSLESS TRANSMISSION LINE Z=50 Ohm
* PROBE-C, 10:1, WITH LOSSY TRANSMISSION LINE Z=100 Ohm, R=190 Ohm/m
* 10:1 HIGH IMPEDANCE OSCILLOSCOPE PROBE NEEDS LOSSY CABLE
* Probe-a(selfmade): probe with 50 Ohm cable, l=2m, R'=0 (lossless, standard coax)
* Probe-b(selfmade): probe with 50 Ohm cable, l=2m, R'=100 Ohm/m, special cable
* Probe-c(HP/Ag, Tek): their probes have typ. 100 Ohm cable, l=2m, R'=190 Ohm/m, special cable
* R' is the ohmic resistance per 1m length of the inner conductor.
* .AC analysis can be used also to see the "flat" frequency response.
* Characteristic Impedance Z: Z=sqrt(L/C)
* not used
* OSCILLOSCOPE
* length = 2m
* PULSE GENERATOR\n \nf=1MHz, Trise=1ns, Tfall=1ns
* FEEDTROUGH\n50 Ohm
* FEEDTROUGH\n50 Ohm
* FEEDTROUGH\n50 Ohm
* OSCILLOSCOPE
* OSCILLOSCOPE
* Inner conductor with ohmic resistance of 100 Ohm/m
* Inner conductor with ohmic resistance of 190 Ohm/m
* Standard 50 Ohm cable
* Resistance of inner conductor omitted
* PULSE GENERATOR\n \nf=1MHz, Trise=1ns, Tfall=1ns
* PULSE GENERATOR\n \nf=1MHz, Trise=1ns, Tfall=1ns
* We learn how useless a standard coaxial cable is for this purpose.
* Probe cables need adapted high ohmic resistance of inner conductor.
* Delay: Tpd/m = sqrt(L*C) = 5ns/m or v=1/sqrt(L*C) = 2/3*c0 choosen
* Helmut Sennewald, 4/25/2004
* Typical values are 100 Ohm/m to 200 Ohm/m depending on the cable's Z-impedance.
* Z from dimensions: Z = 60/sqrt(Er)*log(D/d) [Ohm] , D/d = outer/inner diameter
* HP/Ag or Tek 10:1 PROBE, LENGTH 2M
* http://www.tek.com/site/ps/0,,60-15265-INTRO_EN,00.html
* http://www.probemaster.com/helpful.htm
* Some links:
* Plot V(out_a), V(out:b) and V(out_c)
O1 int_b 0 out_b 0 LTRA1
O2 int_c 0 out_c 0 LTRA2
Ctip_b in_b int_b 28p
Rser_b out_b N004 500
Cadj_b N004 0 30p
Rtip_b in_b int_b 9Meg
Rt_b in_b 0 50
Ci_c out_c 0 20p
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Rtip_a in_a N001 9Meg
Rg_b N005 in_b 50
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V1 N003 0 PULSE(0 20 100n 1n 1n 499n 1000n) AC 20
Rser_a out_a N002 100
Ctip_c in_c int_c 17p
Ri_c out_c 0 1Meg
V3 N007 0 PULSE(0 20 100n 1n 1n 499n 1000n) AC 20
Ri_b out_b 0 1Meg
Rg_c N007 in_c 50
V2 N005 0 PULSE(0 20 100n 1n 1n 499n 1000n) AC 20
Ci_b out_b 0 20p
T1 int_a 0 out_a 0 Td=10n Z0=50
Rg_a N003 in_a 50
Cadj_c N006 0 30p
.tran 0 1u 0 1n
.MODEL LTRA1 LTRA(R=100 C=100p L=250n LEN=2)
.MODEL LTRA2 LTRA(R=190 C=50p L=500n LEN=2)
.backanno
.end

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TEXT -1080 -672 Left 0 ;.ac dec 500 0.1k 200MEG
TEXT -1072 -712 Left 0 !.tran 0 1u 0 1n
TEXT 184 624 Left 0 !.MODEL LTRA1 LTRA(R=100 C=100p L=250n LEN=2)
TEXT 0 496 Left 0 ;PROBE-B, 10:1, WITH LOSSY TRANSMISSION LINE Z=50 Ohm, R=100 Ohm/m
TEXT 8 -144 Left 0 ;PROBE-A, 10:1,  WITH LOSSLESS TRANSMISSION LINE Z=50 Ohm
TEXT 160 1280 Left 0 !.MODEL LTRA2 LTRA(R=190 C=50p L=500n LEN=2)
TEXT 0 1152 Left 0 ;PROBE-C, 10:1,  WITH LOSSY TRANSMISSION LINE Z=100 Ohm, R=190 Ohm/m
TEXT -240 -784 Left 0 ;10:1 HIGH IMPEDANCE OSCILLOSCOPE PROBE NEEDS LOSSY CABLE
TEXT -232 -496 Left 0 ;Probe-a(selfmade):  probe with 50 Ohm cable, l=2m, R'=0  (lossless, standard coax)
TEXT -232 -464 Left 0 ;Probe-b(selfmade):  probe with 50 Ohm cable, l=2m, R'=100 Ohm/m, special cable
TEXT -232 -432 Left 0 ;Probe-c(HP/Ag, Tek): their probes have typ. 100 Ohm cable, l=2m, R'=190 Ohm/m, special cable
TEXT -232 -384 Left 0 ;R' is the ohmic resistance per 1m length of the inner conductor.
TEXT -1080 -632 Left 0 ;.AC analysis can be used also to see the "flat" frequency response.
TEXT -232 -592 Left 0 ;Characteristic Impedance Z:  Z=sqrt(L/C)
TEXT 1320 1040 Left 0 ;not used
TEXT 1224 -96 Left 0 ;OSCILLOSCOPE
TEXT 584 -72 Left 0 ;length = 2m
TEXT -1048 -72 Left 0 ;PULSE GENERATOR\n \nf=1MHz, Trise=1ns, Tfall=1ns
TEXT -520 -72 Left 0 ;FEEDTROUGH\n50 Ohm
TEXT -528 568 Left 0 ;FEEDTROUGH\n50 Ohm
TEXT -528 1232 Left 0 ;FEEDTROUGH\n50 Ohm
TEXT 1224 1200 Left 0 ;OSCILLOSCOPE
TEXT 1224 544 Left 0 ;OSCILLOSCOPE
TEXT 192 584 Left 0 ;Inner conductor with ohmic resistance of 100 Ohm/m
TEXT 160 1240 Left 0 ;Inner conductor with ohmic resistance of 190 Ohm/m
TEXT 296 -72 Left 0 ;Standard 50 Ohm cable
TEXT 296 -40 Left 0 ;Resistance of inner conductor omitted
TEXT -1040 576 Left 0 ;PULSE GENERATOR\n \nf=1MHz, Trise=1ns, Tfall=1ns
TEXT -1048 1224 Left 0 ;PULSE GENERATOR\n \nf=1MHz, Trise=1ns, Tfall=1ns
TEXT -232 -736 Left 0 ;We learn how useless a standard coaxial cable is for this purpose.
TEXT -232 -704 Left 0 ;Probe cables need adapted high ohmic resistance of inner conductor.
TEXT -232 -560 Left 0 ;Delay:  Tpd/m = sqrt(L*C) = 5ns/m  or  v=1/sqrt(L*C) = 2/3*c0 choosen
TEXT 616 -784 Left 0 ;Helmut Sennewald,   4/25/2004
TEXT -232 -672 Left 0 ;Typical values are 100 Ohm/m to 200 Ohm/m depending on the cable's Z-impedance.
TEXT -232 -640 Left 0 ;Z from dimensions:   Z = 60/sqrt(Er)*log(D/d) [Ohm] ,  D/d = outer/inner diameter
TEXT -256 1096 Left 0 ;HP/Ag or Tek 10:1 PROBE, LENGTH 2M
TEXT -1080 -376 Left 0 ;http://www.tek.com/site/ps/0,,60-15265-INTRO_EN,00.html
TEXT -1080 -344 Left 0 ;http://www.probemaster.com/helpful.htm
TEXT -1080 -408 Left 0 ;Some links:
TEXT -1080 -776 Left 0 ;Plot V(out_a), V(out:b) and V(out_c)