* Z:\home\khalils\Downloads\files\data\raw_asc\23883413c4fb_TIA_LoopGain_Probe_LTC6241.asc
* Generated by LTspice 26.0.1 for Windows.
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.ac dec 30 .1 10Meg
* Elements added to \ncompute current gain\nGi=I(V3)/I(V4)
* Element added to \ncompute voltage gain\nGv=-V(x)/V(y)
* Here the open loop gain is determined from the closed loop system[1].\nThe voltage gain and current gain are independently measured in\ntwo circuits identical except for the elements inserted into\nthe loop to make the measurements. Then the open loop gain\ncan be plotted by plotting the quantity:\n \n((I(V3)/I(V4))*(-V(x)/V(y))-1)/((I(V3)/I(V4))+(-V(x)/V(y))+2)\n \nAlternatively, you can add the lines\n.func Gi()=I(V3)/I(V4)\n.func Gv()=-V(x)/V(y)\n.func middlebrook(x,y) = (x*y-1)/(x+y+2)\nto your plot.defs file and then plot the quantity\nmiddlebrook(Gi(),Gv())
* This example schematic is supplied for informational/educational purposes only.
* 1] Middlebrook, R.D., "Measurement of Loop Gain in Feedback Systems", Int. J. Electronics, vol 38, No. 4, pp. 485-512, 1975
* This is exactly a copy from Frank Wiedmann's loopgain work.\nThanks Frank for your example.\n \nIf a single supply is used, especially take care of the input and \noutput voltage. The opamp has no gain if the output is at 0V.\nPlot this: ((I(V3)/I(V4))*(-V(x)/V(y))-1)/((I(V3)/I(V4))+(-V(x)/V(y))+2)
.param CP=10u
.STEP PARAM Cp LIST 1n 10n 100n 1u 10u
* Library below included based on ModelFile attribute of instance XU1, XU2 (C:\users\khalils\AppData\Local\LTspice\lib\sym\OpAmps\LTC6241.asy)
.lib LTC4.lib
.backanno
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* LTspice schematic (.asc):
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TEXT 272 -40 Left 0 ;Elements added to \ncompute current gain\nGi=I(V3)/I(V4)
TEXT 288 448 Left 0 ;Element added to \ncompute voltage gain\nGv=-V(x)/V(y)
TEXT -456 -272 Left 0 ;Here the open loop gain is determined from the closed loop system[1].\nThe voltage gain and current gain are independently measured in\ntwo circuits identical except for the elements inserted into\nthe loop to make the measurements.  Then the open loop gain\ncan be plotted by plotting the quantity:\n \n((I(V3)/I(V4))*(-V(x)/V(y))-1)/((I(V3)/I(V4))+(-V(x)/V(y))+2)\n \nAlternatively, you can add the lines\n.func Gi()=I(V3)/I(V4)\n.func Gv()=-V(x)/V(y)\n.func middlebrook(x,y) = (x*y-1)/(x+y+2)\nto your plot.defs file and then plot the quantity\nmiddlebrook(Gi(),Gv())
TEXT -304 904 Left 0 ;This example schematic is supplied for informational/educational purposes only.
TEXT -544 872 Left 0 ;1] Middlebrook, R.D., "Measurement of Loop Gain in Feedback Systems", Int. J. Electronics, vol 38, No. 4, pp. 485-512, 1975
TEXT -456 -496 Left 0 ;This is exactly a copy from Frank Wiedmann's loopgain work.\nThanks Frank for your example.\n \nIf a single supply is used, especially take care of the input and \noutput voltage. The opamp has no gain if the output is at 0V.\nPlot this:  ((I(V3)/I(V4))*(-V(x)/V(y))-1)/((I(V3)/I(V4))+(-V(x)/V(y))+2)
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TEXT -544 768 Left 0 !.STEP PARAM Cp LIST 1n 10n 100n 1u 10u
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