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JFK Assassination System
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Date:
8/27/201
Agency Information
AGENCY: KISS/SCOW
RECORD NUMBER:
178-10004-10314
SCOWCROFT MEMCONS, HANDWRITTEN
RECORD SERIES:
AGENCY FILE NUMBER:
OCTOBER 1975
Document Information
ORIGINATOR:
WH
FROM:
SCOWCROFT, BRENT
TO:
[Restricted]
TITLE:
P/INTELLIGENCE MTG 13 OCT 75
Released under the John F. Kennedy
Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992
[44 USC 2107 Note). Case#:NW 88608
Date: 03-18-2025
DATE:
PAGES:
10/13/1975
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SUBJECTS:
FORD, GERALD R.
KISSINGER, HENRY A.
COLBY, WILLIAM E.
DOCUMENT TYPE:
CLASSIFICATION:
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COMMENTS:
CIA
CHURCH COMMITTEE
SCOWCROFT, BRENT
ASSASSINATIONS, FOREIGN LEADERS.
BUCHEN, PHILIP
NOTES
Secret
1B; 1C
Redact
08/12/1993
Participants: Ford, Kissinger, Schlesinger, Levi, Lynn, Colby, Buchen, Marsh, Rumsfeld, Scowcroft,
Raoul-Duval. Handwritten notes. For typed transcript see ID# 1781000410302.
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speech.
inans there is no way we can prevent its chase.
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timing over of documents. During the burthy, tho, come
was testimony but it hit ist involve all docusts
brrived.
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that we would review cant for mot
damaging frotations. It was appartent that on
withit geto vote in crate not to futhat a report.
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pass on a trip of
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is ut in with interest to lase it at all.
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