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DOCUMENT INFORMATION
FROM : 108TH MI GROUP
ΤΟ :
TITLE : EXHIBIT
DATE : 02/25/70
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5
SUBJECTS : NAGELL, RICHARD C.
TRINKALA, VICTOR L.-
SWORN STATEMENT
TAPE RECORDING OF INTERVIEW
CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR
DISCHARGE FROM ARMY
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UNITED STATES ARMY INTELLIGENCE COMMAND
EXHIBIT
COVER SHEET
SUBJECT:
FILE NUMBER:
PREPARING UNIT:
AGENT REPORT DATED:
DESCRIPTION:
TRINKALA, Victor Lee
186 42 1155
PVT
9321 6006)
108th MI Group (I-SIB)
25 February 1970
SUBJECT'S Sworn Statement (DA Form 2823),
dated 19 February 1970..
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WITNESS STATEMENT
(AR 195-10-TB PMG 3)
PLACE 108th MI Group, Region I, Room 1332,
26 Federal Plaza, New York, NY
LAST NAME, FIRST NAME, MIDDLE NAME
TRINKALA, Victor Lee
ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS
10007
DATE
19 Feb 70
TIME 1500 HPS FILE NUMBER
1600 Hrs 9321: 6006
SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT NO.
186 42 1155.
-127 West 43d Street, Room 301; Manhattan, New York 10036
V7 Victor Lee Trinkala
SWORN STATEMENT
GRADE
PVT
WANT TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT UNDER OATH:
Q. Mr. Trinkala, before we proceed, it is my desire to acquaint you with the purpose
of this interview. The United States Department of Army must be assured of the
character, suitability, and unswerving loyalty to the United States of persons who
are in the United States Army and its Reserve component.
In this regard, you
Chave been asked to voluntarily undergo an interview under oath concerning your
background since you were discharged from active duty and placed in the inactive
reserves. This interview will provide a dual opportunity to you and the Depart-
ment of Army to determine your status up to the present. Do you understand what
I have just said to you? -
Q.
A.
Q.
Yes.
Do you have any objection to being interviewed under oath?
No..
Please stand and raise your right hand. Do you affirm to tell the truth, the
whole truth and nothing but the truth?
A. Yes, I so affirm.
A.
ہے بھی ہے بھی ہے
'A.
04
Q.
A.
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Do you have any objection to having this interview tape recorded for administra-
tive purposes?
No, none whatsoever. VLT
Please state your name, address of residence, occupation, name and address of
employer, and Social Security Account Number.
My name is Victor Lee Trinkala and I reside at the Hotel Woodstock, Room 301,
127 West 43d Street, Manhattan, New York. I am currently unemployed. My Social
Security Account Number is 186 42 1155.
What addresses have you resided at since your discharge?
I lived at the Hotel Strand, 206 West 43d Street, Manhattan, New York for approxi
mately two or three weeks after my discharge from the Army. I then moved to my
current address and have resided there ever since.
What employment have you had since your discharge?
A. None. I collect a weekly unemployment check from New York State which pays for my
bills.
Did you come directly to New York City after your discharge?
Q.
A.
Yes.
Q.
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Mr Trinkala, have you ever had contact with any embassies, legations, consulates,
or representatives of any foreign country?
A. No, none that I know of.
Q.
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Have you or any member of your family ever been contacted by a representative of
a foreign intelligence service either here or abroad?
A. No, none that I know of.
Q.
Have you or any member of your family ever been contacted by anyone with a more
than casual interest in your military assignments, career,
or duties?
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Statement of TRINKALA, Victor Lee, taken at 108th MI Group, Region I, 26 Federal
Plaza, Room 1332, New York, New York 10007, dated 19 February 1970, continued:
VA. No, no one that I can recall.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
نی ہے نی ہے نی ہے نی
ہی تو ہے نی ہے تو
If you were contacted by someone with a more than casual interest in your
military assignments, career, or duties, what would you do?
I would report them to the FBI, CIA, or the CID.
Do you Mr. Trinkala, still consider yourself to be a Conscientious Objector?
YES.
You do consider yourself to be a Conscientious Objector?
I consider myself to be a Conscientious Objector to a certain point.
Explain, if you will, Mr. Trinkala.
I do not believe in killing someone for no reason. I just can not bring myself
to kill a man because someone tells me to.
Q.. What are your Conscientious Objector grounds based upon?
A
Q.
A.
Qo
Q.
I have religious and moral objections to killing people.
When were you discharged?
I was discharged on 3 December 1969.
What were the reasons given for your discharge?
I really cannot recall the reasons for my discharge.
Were you told why you were discharged?
A. There were several reasons involved.
charged.
VLT
A friend of mine helped me to get ais- VLT
How did he help you obtain a discharge?
I do not know how he helped, or if, in fact, he did help me to get discharged.
What is your friend's name?
Q.
A.
Qo
A.
His name is Richard Nagel.
Q.
A.
I do not know where he lives.
Qo
A.
Where does Richard Nagel reside?
I have never met him in person and do not know
him personally. He is a friend of a friend,
How did you become acquainted with Mr. Nagel.
NT
Mr. Nagel is actually the friend of Tony Muneer of whom I have known for three
or four years.
Qo
A.
Q.
A.
A.
Q.
A.
Qe
Where does Mr. Muneer reside and what is his occupation?
Tony Muneer resides at the Hotel Woodstock, 127 West 43d Street, Manhattan,
New York. He is employed there as a Desk Clerk.
Have you ever resided in the same residence with Mr. Muneer previous to your
discharge?
Yes, we both lived in the Hotel Strand, 206 West 43d Street, Manhattan, New
York.
What was his occupation at that time?
He was working as a Desk Clerk and going to school at IBM.
What was your occupation at that time?
I was working at the Clinton Hotel, 19 West 31st Street, Manhattan, New York.
So, Mr. Muneer told you he would help you get out of the Army?
A. Yes, he said he would speak to a friend, Richard Nagel, and see what he could do.
Did he ever tell you what he did to help you get out of the Army?
Që
'A.
No.
Qu
5,0
A.
No..
Have you ever associated with 2 dissident, anti-Army, or anti-war groups?
sociated
Have you ever been contacted by any individual who is
dissident, anti-Army, or anti-war groups?
A.
I do not know..
Q.
representative of any
Has any person ever asked you to attend meetings of such groups?
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Statement of TRINKALA, Victor Lee, taken at 108th MI Group, Region I, 26 Federal
Plaza, Room 1332, New York, New York 10007, dated 19 February 1970, continued:
A.
Q.
ہے نی ہے
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
Q.
.A.
-Q.
Have you ever attended any meetings of any dissident, anti-Army, anti-war
groups?
No, never.
Where were you stationed while in the Army?
I was stationed at Fort Gordon, Georgia for approximately nine weeks during
which time I received Basic Training. I then went to Fort Polk, Louisianna,
for AIT training in the MOS 11B10. I stayed at Fort Polk for approximately
10 weeks. I was then sent to Oakland Army Terminal with orders for Viet Nam.
I was discharged at Oakland Army Terminal on 3 December 1969.
Do you not remember the reasons for your discharge?
No, I do not remember the specific reasons.
How much time had you spent in the Army?
I had spent five months and 22 days.
Did you not think it rather odd that you should be granted a discharge after
only five months and 22 days?
Yes, I thought it was odd but I did not know what was happening.
Did you receive any counseling while in the Army from Army personnel?
A. No, but the Personnel Officer at Oakland Army Terminal asked me who Richard
Nagel was.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
Q.
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Why did he ask you the identity of Richard Nagel and what was his name and rank?
I do not know why he asked me about Richard Nagel. He was a Warrant Officer but
I do not remember his name or rank.
What did you tell him about Mr. Nagel?
I told him only that he was a personal friend of mine.
Had you requested a discharge at any time prior to arriving at Oakland Army Ter-
minal?
A. I do not recall.
A.
You had never requested a discharge?
I was trying to get my combat status changed to non-combat status. I never
initiated any formal procedures to obtain a discharge.
Did you ever tell any one that you were a Conscientious Objector?
A. Yes, I told the adjutant at Oakland Army Terminal but he tore up my request and
told me to get the hell out.
أنا
Q.
Have you his name and rank?
A.
No, I do not recall his name or rank.
Q.
A.
VOT
Q.
A..
Did Richard Nagel ever mention to you how he got your out of the Army?
No, as I mentioned before I have never seen him before or since. He called me
long distance from New York City while I was at Oakland Army Terminal and that
was the first and last I heard from him,
Has Tony Muneer heard from him or does he know of his whereabouts?
No, Tony has not heard from him since December 1969 and does not know of Richard
Nagel's whereabouts.
Q. Have you ever been arrested?
A
Yes.
Qo
How many times?
A.
About three or four times.
506
Have you ever been arrested since being inducted into the Army?
A. No, and I listed all my arrests on the forms I had to fill out before going into
the Army and at Basic Training.
VLT
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STATEM
EMENT (Continued).
Q: Do you have friends who are members of dissident, anti-Army, or anti-war groups
or organizations?
f
A. No, but most of my friends do not like the Army. I do not know their reasons:
To what country do you owe your allegiance?
Q.
A.
Q.
The United States.
Do you support the Constitution of the United States and are you willing to
- defend the United States against any and all of her enemies without exception?
ALI 
support the 
Constitution and am willing to fight any enemies who invade the
United States but I am not willing to fight in Viet Nam because I believe the
war is immoral.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
Q.
A.
If called upon to fight in Viet Nam would you go?
I would try to obtain Conscientious Objector status. If that did not work I do
not know what I 
would do.
Would you be willing to go on Active Duty if called upon?
I would not be willing to be called to Active Duty and I do not know if I would
'go 
if called.
Why are you opposed to killing?
ا ناول
I was brought up to be opposed to killing. They wanted to teach me in four
*months to kill somebody and you can not teach in four months something which is
opposed 
to what you have been taught for many years.
Qa
Are these attitudes due to religious beliefs?
A.
Yes, I am Catholic and do not believe in killing.
Q.
ہے نی ہے تو ہے ہی ہے تو نے تھی
A.
If you had to kill someone in self-defense what would you do?
I would fight back but this is different than being placed in Viet Nam where
I would 
probably have to kill.
If you were in Viet Nam and were under fire would you kill the enemy?
Yes, I would. Any human being would fight back.
If a foreign power attacked the United States would have any objection to killing
the aggressor? V
A. No, not really.
Do you have anything further to add?
A. NO, ///ALE
//// Nothing Follows
UCF
VLT
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AFFIDAVIT
1, Victor Lee Trinkala
HAVE READ OR HAVE HAD READ TO ME THIS STATE-
MENT WHICH BEGINS ON PAGE 1 AND ENDS ON PAGE 1 FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CONTENTS OF THE ENTIRE STATEMENT
MADE BY ME. THE 
STATEMENT IS TRUE. I HAVE INITIALED ALL CORRECTIONS AND HAVE INITIALED THE BOTTOM OF EACH PAGE
CONTAINING THE STATEMENT. I HAVE MADE THIS STATEMENT FREELY WITHOUT HOPE OF BENEFIT OR REWARD, WITHOUT THREAT
OF PUNISHMENT, AND WITHOUT COERCION, UNLAWFUL INFLUENCE, OR UNLAWFUL INDUCEMENT.
WITNESSES:
Vitu Lee Triala
(Signature of Person Making Statement)
Muncen
Subscribed and sworn to before me, a person authorized by law
to administer oaths, this 20th way of February
19.70
T
a: 127 West 43d Street, Manhattan, NY 10036
JAKINI NAZO STANIC 10036= 7 7 Mc Phinn
ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS
ORGANIZATION OR ADDRESS
507
(Signature of Person Adminletering Ceth)
TIMOTHY T. MC PHERSON, Special Agent.
(Typed Name of Person Administering Oath)
ÁR 136 (b), UCMJ
INITIALS OF PERSON MAKING STATEMENT
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(Authority To Administer Oatha).
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