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INTERVIEW AND MEETING SUMMARY
DATE: 07/25/75
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INTERVIEW WITH DAVID, PAUL (ALIAS),
SUBJ: ASSASSINATION INQUIRY
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INTERVIEW WITH:
Paul David (alias)
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DATE-TIME-LOCATION:
July 25, 1975; 608 Carroll Arms
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INTERVIEW AND MEETING SUMMARY
TOP SECRET
This morning, Joe and I met with Paul David
("P.D.") at the Carroll Arms for approximately
two hours. George Clarke from the CIA's General
Counsel's staff was present for the last fifteen
minutes of the interview.
Background:
1948-51
1951-54
Assistant to the Chief of station.
Rumanla
Chief Rumanian Desk
1954-58 Chief of Operations Against Communist
15-16
1958-61
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1961-62
1962-63
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Areas (Eastern Bloc)
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(Operations from
(Sasterak baise - stationed in (ce).
Tara Chief Station,
Special Assistant to Helms
15-16
National War College (June 1962
July 1963)
Helms' Special Assistant
Chice Station (Utland/Haque
1963-64
1965-66
1966-69
1969-73
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Chief of Station
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1973
1973-74
5-6
Hopa 2-21
Chief of Operational Services
Chief of Staff in DDP.
Clandestine Services)
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(Director
Chief Career Management Personnel
Chief Plans & Programs for Directorate
Interview Summary:
Bissell "out of the blue" asked P.D. to read
and comment upon Zoogby's Cuban operations paper.
P.D. told Bissell that the paper/proposals "stunk"
(.
"much like another Bay of Pigs"). Appar
ently, Helms also read and liked P.D.'s comments.
After Bissell "left", Helms requested that P.D.
come on board as his staff assistant.
P.D. stressed that he was not in the opera-
tional line of command "I provided an interface
for intelligence information." A typical day in
P.D.'s life:
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Screening cable traffic (7 9 a.m.).
Primarily cables relating to positive in-
telligence, to prepare Helms for his daily
9 a.m. hour-long meeting with DCI McCone.
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Prepared a daily briefing for the White
House on Cuban intelligence.
Preparing review of books such as "The
Invisible Government" and damage reports
(i.e., reports setting forth what sensitive
information exposed by book).
P.D. stressed that he was "out of touch with the
day-to-day operations of Task Force W". However,
he believes that Harvey kept Helms fully briefed.
Harvey, in P.D.'s own words, was "not an
ordinary man",
"egocentric", "bombastic",
"one of the strongest proponents of compartmentali-
zation and need to know". In addition, Harvey had
a law degree and a successful FBI stint prior to
joining the Agency.
As one of the
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Harvey had a thyroid problem.
"CIA's most interesting characters", Harvey was
often talked about; P.D. has difficulty separating
personal experience from rumors. Describing
Harvey as a "four martini man at lunch"
which, coupled with Harvey's thyroid medicine,
caused Harvey to be sleepy, etc., after lunch.
fact, P.D. told us that this was the "last straw"
in McCone's eyes; i.e., apparently when McCone
called Harvey in to "discuss" the Kennedys' com-
plaints about Harvey's utterings, it was immediately
after lunch and Harvey either fell asleep or failed
to pay attention. ("McCone did not have an audience."
P.D. added that there was general "bad chemistry"
between McCone and Harvey.
P.D. noted Harvey's intense loyalty to "his people"
(including Helms and Starkey. However, P.D.
is sure that even with these people, Harvey was
likely to have been extremely close-mouthed.
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