From Anxiety to Action: How Can We Make Change Happen? | Dr. Renée Lertzman | Episode 16
Channel: Thrivability Matters
Date: 2022-09-01

From natural disasters to climate change, our world is struggling.
Solutions are in reach - but they can be difficult to embrace. Fears and anxieties can turn to denial, or even resistance to sustainable change. But what if we could reach out to them?

We welcome Dr. Renée Lertzman, a psychologist and engagement strategist dedicated to 
accelerating global system change on a broad scale - through helping people turn their fears and anxieties on our world into productive and sustainable action. She is the creator of Project Inside Out, a website that can help those who seek to make change engage others through understanding one another.

Today we discuss how people act when it comes to sustainability, how skeptics emerge, and how we can communicate on sustainability with people - not at them.
If we can understand and listen to each other, even when it is difficult, we can make a hopeful future where our world thrives. (31 mins)

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:51 Introducing Dr. Renée Lertzman
01:34 Psychological insight into climate denial 
04:57 How to talk about climate change without triggering a defence mechanism
06:47 Managing our own emotions and internal reactions 
10:15 Working with organisations to guide climate discourse
14:04 Navigating ambivalence and resistance to climate action
16:46 FOMO and undoing the damage of poor past environmentalist communication
18:11 How to communicate effectively through one-way mediums
20:12 Degrowth, systemic change, and tackling difficult existential conversations
21:31 Why do people regurgitate old talking points?
24:34 Psychological impacts of climate change, and the healing power of human connection
29:23 Working together to solve problems that are too big for any one of us.

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