1986-11-07 NSFRI - Plato - Symposium - Diotima's Dialogue with Socrates
Channel: Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Date: 2018-03-08

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 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society -- 1986-11-07 NSFRI - Plato - Symposium - Diotima's Dialogue with Socrates
Dialogue(s): symposium Stephanus Sections Covered: 201c-206b, 210a-212a Notes: Session begins with a reading of Socrates’ speech and his dialogue with Diotima on the subject of Love. Question raised, “what about beauty being in the eye of the beholder?” Pierre responds with this being true to an extent, but this involves both a perception and a judgment. And the judgment is that the perceived beautiful is judged to be good, otherwise, no one would want it. Emphasis on Diotima’s description of The Beautiful as not being beautiful in some part or portion, but beautiful in all ways, independent of time and the observer. Pierre remarks that it completely eliminates any aspect of relativism. Using alternate translations from Thomas Taylor, comparisons are made between The One and the description Diotima uses for The Beautiful. In-depth exploration follows to the end of the session of the individual stages/steps of Diotima’s process for attaining the highest vision of The Beautiful. (Thanks to BillD for videorecording, and thanks to RaphaelH for title, stephanus numbers, and above notes.) More info: http://noeticsociety.org Stephanus Sections, Explicit (for searching): 201c 201d 201e 202a 202b 202c 202d 202e 203a 203b 203c 203d 203e 204a 204b 204c 204d 204e 205a 205b 205c 205d 205e 206a 206b 210a 210b 210c 210d 210e 211a 211b 211c 211d 211e 212a