God? Everything? Where Do I Start? Andrius Kulikauskas
Channel: Math 4 Wisdom
Date: 2023-12-05

Andrius Kulikauskas shares with Jere Northrop his metaphysical autobiography, especially the tension between God and Everything as top-down and bottom-up starting points for his language of wisdom, Wondrous Wisdom.  They are relating their languages of wisdom. This meeting of the Math4Wisdom Language of Wisdom Study Group was recorded on 2023.11.20. 

1:20 Andrius's understanding of Jere's language of wisdom. Read "Philosopher's Dream" https://www.math4wisdom.com/files/20231018-Northrop-Philosophers-Dream.pdf and "Relational Symmetry Paradigm" (RSP) https://www.math4wisdom.com/files/20231014-Northrop-RelationalSymmetryParadigm.pdf
3:05 Andrius: My childhood wish to know everything and apply that usefully. 
5:15 Ancient Egypt.
6:20 In high school, I concluded that absolute knowledge was not in quantum physics but in wisdom.
8:20 As a freshman, I recognized the three-cycle of being, doing, thinking.
11:00 Absolutes in terms of divisions of everything, not God.
12:25 Plato's Republic: 4 levels of knowledge
13:50 Disputes (free will vs. fate) manifest divisions of everything. 
14:40 Documenting a language of cognitive frameworks.
15:55 Math PhD
16:35 Eight-cycle of divisions. Shift by adding 1, 2 or 3 perspectives. Zeroth, first, second, third persons.
20:00 Kahneman, "Thinking, Fast and Slow" about System 1 (Unconscious) and System 2 (Conscious) to which I add System 3 (Consciousness).
21:40 3 systems need 3 languages: Argumentation, Verbalization, Narration
22:10 Top-down, a theory interprets facts. My theory: they all unfold from God. 
23:05 I abstract from experience, unplug the Unconscious (personal experience), unplug the Conscious (assumptions), focus on Consciousness, which relates them. Bott periodicity may model an 8-track mind.
24:40 I ask participants to ignore our Unconscious answers and our Conscious questions. Focus on investigatory Consciousness.
25:40 Jere came up with similar structures in his own way. What can we learn by combining our similar language?
26:40 Andrius: Four levels of knowledge vs. equation of life (God does not have to be good)
28:40 Ambiguity of entropy. Is the Earth an open system (grace) or a closed system (justice)?
29:40 I add a blank page to RSP and remove interrelation.
30:20 As in RSP there is a 4x4 table. Spirit, structure, conceptions, unity.
31:15 God is motivated by asking, Is God necessary? Would there be God if God was not? Proof by contradiction yields spiritual and material worlds.
33:25 Everything is the structure of God. Division of everything into 1 perspective (everything) vs. 0 perspectives (God).
34:50 Equation of life in terms of structure, conceptions and unities. God wishes, humans have reservations. 6 ways of combining them to define structural frameworks for empathy. God's will loves the imperfect.
43:45 A deeper 4x4 table relates God's investigations and Human's investigations. Eight-cycle is perhaps 4+4.
44:15 Videos on preliminaries.
44:50 Facts can be explained by different theories.  Andrius supposes a primordial God. Jere supposes everything has Consciousness.
46:45 Jere focuses on the difference between God and everything. For him, a point is the most primitive, and likewise a distinction. Interpreting the start.
49:30 My personal tension. Friendly to God but in charge myself without God. Prefer not to assume.
50:35 Eightfold relationship with God who loves me more than I love myself.
55:35 Jere: What is everything? How do God, everything, Andrius relate?
56:30 Bottom-up facts derive from Everything, whereas top-down theory unfolds from God.
57:25 Spencer-Brown "Laws of Form". 
57:50 Jere: Covariance. Construct the relation between our foundations. Where do you start when you first wake up?
58:50 Science? Advanced mathematics, Bott periodicity which acts on the stable orthogonal group, which includes pure rotations and those which include a reflection. Modeling unconscious and conscious. CPT symmetry. Weak force suggests a mirror universe, just as unconscious is modeled by conscious.
1:05:20 Scientifically explore how mirror universes couple.
1:06:05 Math4Wisdom fosters a community of Consciousness. What would God's role be in that? 
1:07:20 Jere: What actually works in experience.
1:07:50 Three languages. Autognome as sixsome. Adding God and good yields the eightfold way.

Thank you for leaving comments, for liking this video and for subscribing to the Math 4 Wisdom YouTube channel!

Thank you Kevin Armengol, John Harland, Bill Pahl and all for your support through Patreon!  https://www.patreon.com/math4wisdom    

Join our Math4Wisdom discussion group at https://www.freelists.org/list/math4wisdom where you can join our study groups!

Visit http://www.math4wisdom.com to contact me, Andrius Kulikauskas, and learn more about Math4Wisdom!