Neha Rungta, AWS | AWS re:Invent 2019
Channel: SiliconANGLE theCUBE
Date: 05/12/2019

Neha Rungta, Principal, Applied Scientist, Automated Reasoning Group at AWS, sits down with Jeff Frick & John Walls for AWS re:Invent 2019 at the Sands Expo & Convention Center in Las Vegas, NV.

How automated reasoning is making enterprise operations more secure

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Automated reasoning versus machine learning: How AWS provides secure access control without data

By embracing diversity, humanity finds greater strength. Our differences mean we can specialize, using our unique talents to excel in the areas to which we are most suited. This is as true for intelligence as for physical attributes. One person may solve complex algebraic equations for fun but care less about which political party is in power; another may have trouble calculating the tip on a restaurant check but can spend hours discussing the ins and outs of global foreign policy. Both are important skills, but with different applications.

Turns out, the same goes for machines. The intelligence required for facial recognition demands a very different learning base than the reasoning applied to security tasks such as access control. So, rather than approaching security from the machine-learning standpoint of ingesting masses of data, Amazon Web Services Inc. is training AI in a different style of smarts: automated reasoning.

“Machine learning and automated reasoning are subfields of AI. I would call them sister fields but on the opposite ends of the spectrum,” said Neha Rungta (pictured), principal engineer of the Automated Reasoning Group at Amazon Web Services Inc. “In machine learning you would have the computer system learn the rules by observing data, lots of data. … Automated reasoning, on the other hand, doesn’t look at data but for the things where we know there exists a definitive set of rules. We encode [those rules], and the system and the algorithms can reason about them.”

Rungta spoke with John Walls and Jeff Frick, co-hosts of theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media’s mobile livestreaming studio, during the AWS re:Invent conference in Las Vegas. They discussed the nuances of artificial intelligence and how automated reasoning can increase data security. (* Disclosure below.)

This week, theCUBE spotlights Neha Rungta in its Women in Tech feature.

From model checking to cloud security
An exceptionally talented student, Rungta took her passion for computer science from high school in India to Brigham Young University in Utah, where she gained the triad of bachelor’s, master’s and doctorate degrees in computer science. Numerous academic awards and scholarships marked her studies, including the prestigious Google Anita Borg Memorial Scholarship. As a graduate student, Rungta attended the Google School of Code, developing a test framework for the Java Pathfinder model checker for concurrent programs.

After being awarded a Ph.D. for her thesis on “Guided Testing for Automatic Error Discovery in Concurrent Software,” Rungta moved to California where she continued to pursue her passion for intelligent model verification. As a research scientist in the NASA Ames Research Center Robust Software Engineering, Intelligent Systems Division, Rungta published numerous papers on topics such as symbolic execution, automated program analysis, and airspace modeling.

IAM simplifies access control
In 2017, Rungta left NASA and joined Amazon’s Automated Reasoning Group to delve into the possibilities of using automated reasoning to improve cloud security. She is a key member of the team that created the AWS Identity and Access Management Access Analyzer, which was announced at re:Invent 2019.

IAM is an automated reasoning tool that seeks out misconfigurations that could lead to data vulnerabilities, providing what AWS calls “provable security.”

“It empowers the customers to make decisions about what access is intentional versus not,” Rungta said. “You don’t have to be a security expert, or even know how access control works, or be like a mathematician or a logician. It’s just simple declarative statements.”

The accepted idea of AI is the machine-learning algorithm that ingests vast quantities of data, allowing it to identify one object from another. That would be great if identifying a security threat was as easy as, say, telling the difference between a chihuahua and a breakfast taco. But who should, or should not, have access to resources within a business is an extremely complicated matter.

“I don’t think most people understand how complex access control can be,” Wall stated. “Between different rules, different projects, different resources, it gets to be a pretty nasty, hairy mess.”
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