The actual real truth about Palestine (and West Bank)
Channel: Joniversity
Date: 18/01/2014

Palestine - To was or not to was? That is the question, which 2 Palestinian chicks tried to answer in an attempt to debunk, pwn and otherwise refute claims made in another video titled "Israel Palestinian Conflict: The Truth About the West Bank" - from the crafty hands of Danny Ayalon who seems to be enjoying making videos ever since he left the Israeli parliament. Well, now the poor girls got a Joniversity response. 

A few links to feast on:
"Langue"-free version (if that's what stopping you from sharing): http://youtu.be/dbtcAcgW9Qo 
My facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Joniversity
Genocidal Race Traitor: http://genocidalracetraitor.blogspot.co.il/
A video where I deal with Biblical Archeology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrMNGjFC7Qc
Danny Ayalon's original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYxLWUKwWo
The response video by the two Arab chicks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBYkBqY1-LM
The Bill Maher bit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmizyHFabqQ
 
Stuff I talked about:
Anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda vs Arab anti-Israel propaganda: http://www.antisemitism.org.il/eng/Arab_Anti_Semitism

The view of the West Bank as Disputed Territory rather than Occupied Territory: 
Video: http://youtu.be/O78S2xfGdso
Article: http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm

Palestine laid waste with little population: http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~peters/depopulated.html

Demographics of Palestine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Palestine

League of Nations Mandate for Palestine: http://cojs.org/cojswiki/League_of_Nations_Mandate_for_Palestine%2C_July_24%2C_1922.

Palestinian nationalism (nice article where Benny Morris reviews Rashid Khalidi's book): http://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=summary&url=/journals/israel_studies/v003/3.1morris.html

The two chicks based some of their stuff on works by Ilan Pappe. Here's Benny Morris shredding him one passage at a time http://www.newrepublic.com/article/books/magazine/85344/ilan-pappe-sloppy-dishonest-historian

My personal views:
For me personally the legal case for the West Bank as disputed territories seams sketchy, and I have a hunch that most Israelis are on the same page as I am on this. Also, I for one, do not think that the fact that the Palestinian national identity was manufactured not long ago (mainly for political reasons, but yes, also in response to a more organic sense of identity that has developed over time) means that they have more or less rights than the ancient Jewish national identity. The way I see it, trying to solve the Israeli-Arab conflict by benchmarking it against a historical justice/injustice scale simply seams extremely counter-productive - it is a fight both sides can potentially win at the face value argument level. Although Palestinians have the "advantage" of appearing as the weak party, which automatically makes a certain type of people  unite in defense of the poor suffering brown native noble savage (just as they did for Israel when it was the weak party), after all weak = victim, and victim = just. Didn't you know? And yes, it helps when that poor suffering brown native noble savage has petro-dollar money pushing its propaganda.
Be good.
Jonny.