2018-08-18 NSSAT NSDRM - What is Cause?; Dream Explorations: JulieH, Regina
Channel: Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Date: 2018-09-22

2018-08-18 NSSAT NSDRM - What is Cause?; Dream Explorations: JulieH, Regina

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  Sections: What is Cause?;SynopsisAnother Saturday morning chat with Pierre and members of the Noetic Society. Dream explorations with JulieH and Regina, and some continued consideration on 'cause' from last night's talk.The book and film that Pierre is returning, on the table at the beginning, are Greg Palast's, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.Dream TextsJulieH's Dream #1Fri, August 17,2018 Dream - 2:55 a.m.I’m in this house and it’s a house, an old house, in an old neighborhood, in anold city. I don’t know where, but it’s clean. And there are people there who are all,we're all about the same; you know, I don’t know what age we are. Yea, age is notimportant but we're all growing; we’re all kind of on edge and by that I mean frommy perspective, I don’t know these people.Are they gangsters? Are they in their right minds? Do any of them haveguns? Could any of them lose their cool state of mind and go off and shootsomebody, could somebody from the outside shoot somebody? Could there be adrive by?There’s just this kind if sense of impending doom but, so there’s guys andgirls and sometimes we're inside, sometimes we're outside. There are other roomsin the house. It’s a kind of interestingly constructed house actually; hallways that are so large, they can actually function as sitting rooms with chairs to sit and read.But there’s this underlying unfolding intelligibility that we’ve all beenparticipating in and that has a strong force that, that I think keeps everybody aliveand well.And yet it’s almost like being in a state of mind where sometimes when I’ve taken too much of a drug and J think, “Whoa, what, you know, is something badgoing to happen? Like, am I going to pass out? Or, am I going to say somethingreally foolish or be embarrassed, or trip or and having visions of something badhappening?”It’s like that state of mind I’m having in the dream. I’m worried for everyonethere; is someone going to pull out a gun and shoot somebody? But we're all talking.We're all now talking to each other now and again. And, but, the conversation - Idon’t know - it seems like we're all talking about - reflecting on this event that wesaw. And although we're not in continuous talking, talking, talking, sometimes twoor more of us will get together and somebody will say something about the eventthat they’ve just like realized or remembered that they really liked and they want torepeat it or they got a question from the event and they want to stay in it.So it’s like-a continuous state of mind that we're all sharing in and the state ofmind is generative of reflections. That’s basically all we’re doing. But, yet, some ofthese guys look so gangster [chuckle] and it’s like, it’s just ah, it’s just, I mean, I meanthe stension (sic).It kind of reminds me of the state of mind that came about when I talkedwith this guy last night (Thursday eve) at the end of the mtng for soc sci at Fullertonand afterwards I talked to the one guy who teaches and who has a full time job withChild and Family Services of Orange County, and he said that, you know, he sees,everyday he’s in court and he - I asked him if he watches DN! And ne said that hedoesn’t because every day he’s faced with horrible, horrible things and he doesn’twant, on his time off, to hear any more horror. And that he teaches on Saturday; hehas a Sat class and he loves it. And he’s, he’s been doing it long enough so that he’sgot his class down and it doesn’t require a lot of work and he can talk to the studentswhen they come up to him after class and talk to him about their lives. I don’t know,it just kind of seems like that. You know there were about as many characters ashere were adjunct at the mtng last night. Out of the 96 Adjunct faculty at Fullerton,there were about 12 there.And, I don’t’ know. That’s the end.But back to the dream. It seems like there was something we were waiting for. I don’t know, I mean I was visiting, myself. I was visiting this house and I don’tknow what I was doing there except talking to people. It’s kind of like my life, you know, I talk to people. And like I talked to the guy from child and family svcs and I shared some ideas with him, ‘cause I had an idea and I wanted to run it by him and that’s just the idea that I'll put it in my syllabus that every day I'll start my class with current events for about 10 minutes talk about something in the news that’s psychologically related. He told me that it sounded good but that what would better is if I got them to go it too after I modeled it for them.I said, Ok, that sounds good. They could turn something, type it up, the URL of the information, a title, what topic it deals with, what chapter of the book.And he said something like, “Yea so you could look it up because that's what he teaches his students and that’s what a good part of his job is is just looking upcodes and it’s a good skill to have. So, I liked that a