Sold Cloak | Episode 4 - Vigilante Quandary
Channel: Sold Cloak
Date: 2023-06-09

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After a start as smooth as butter, the expert podcasters (Dan, Ethan, Hammond, and Jack) continued on to tackle vigilante justice. Points discussed include:

    What is a vigilante? Is vigilantism ever appropriate?
    Vigilante justice vs full revolution.
    The odd coincidence of lopsided justice in a politicized atmosphere.
    Biblical example of vigilantism – Simeon and Levi kill the men of Shechem.
    Honesty in justice as apposed to deceit.
    Biblical example v2 – Absalom kills Amnon. The cheese gets a little more binding.
    Why did David do nothing? What should Absalom have done?
    Is vigilante justice simply necessary sometimes, regardless of what is right and wrong?
    Kyle Rittenhouse tangent.
    George Floyd Autopsy.
    Should vigilantes free the Jan 6 detainees? Reasons why that might be a problem.
    King John’s anecdote, and forcing authority before rebellion.
    The difference in “punishment” vigilante justice and “deliverance” vigilante justice.
    Is there a quality to local vigilante justice not found in the judicial system?
    Caning in the town square.
    How dare you escape?
    A teaser on redress of grievances.
    Some wonderful parting advice from Dan.

Corrections:

    1 Chronicles does not say that the birthright went to Judah. Judah prevailed over his brothers, but the two sons of Joseph received the birthright (1 Chronicles 5:1-2).
    Clarification: shoplifting less than $950 in California was made a misdemeanor via Proposition 47 in 2014. It was not made nonprosecutable; though, one could argue that it had the same effect since misdemeanors are often not prosecuted. Other states have enacted similar laws.
    The Rittenhouse corrections (since we pulled it all from memory) [https://www.soldcloak.net/extra-notes/ep4].
    The George Floyd autopsy was not released in 2023, it was released in 2020. It does indicate that Floyd’s Cardiopulmonary arrest was (at least in part) due to neck compression [https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf].
    King John was not holed up in a barn, held at sword point while signing the Magna Carta. He was, however, compelled to apply his seal by his very unhappy barons.

Notes and Links:

    The Declaration of Independence [https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript].
    2 Samuel 12:7-12 Nathan the prophet tells King David that the sword will not depart from his house.
    Kenosha Riot Shooting; All Angles Synced Together with Timeline [https://rumble.com/vuwu96-kenosha-riot-shooting-all-angles-synced-together-with-timeline.html]. Also, a narrated video explanation of the indecent released before all the details were known [https://youtu.be/E4dhPM99i4I], and footage from the FBI [https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1455579165739167752].
    News media claiming Rittenhouse shot black men [https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/19/the-independent-falsely-stated-rittenhouse-shot-3-black-men-kyle-rittenhouse/]. Also a UCLA professor had the same error in one of her books [https://twitter.com/Nefertari_25/status/1478520924483719168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw].
    1 Corinthians 6:1-8 – Paul rebukes the Corinthian church for going to law before handling things as Christian brothers.
    Ethan never gets to his third biblical example that was going to contrast the first two. That would be Ehud killing King Eglon.