CES Sunday Service Episode 114 (March 8th, 2020)
Channel: Church of the Eternally Secure (C.E.S.)
Date: 2020-03-08

The panel fields the congregation's questions every week during Sunday Service where we seek to  exemplify Liberty in non-essentials and share our views and opinions through a spirit of Charity.
Below are the questions that are covered during today's service:

Q1 (@20:24):  "John 14:15-16 says:  'If ye love me, keep my commandments.  And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;'
John 14:23 says something similar – if you love Jesus you will keep His Words, and the Father and Jesus will then abide with them.  Although I know this is not doing this, is this teaching us that in order to get saved and receive the Holy Spirit, we've got to first love Jesus and obey the commandments?"

Q2 (@40:22):  "People who see the Book of Enoch as having some authority support their position by saying that authors like Jude directly quoted from Enoch. If they are right and the book of Enoch has authority (where even Jude supposedly quotes from it), why didn't the Holy Spirit allow this book into the Bible?  Only people from false works-based Christian religions include the Book of Enoch.
I personally believe it is good that it is not in our Bible and think Jude quoting Enoch is just mere coincidence. I mean that even if the book of Enoch never existed, the Holy Spirit would have inspired Jude to say exactly the same thing about Michael contending with Satan about the body of Moses. I.e. I believe Jude was just quoting the mere element of truth that was in Enoch to make a point just as Paul quoted from things people said too."

Q3 (@1:01:43):  "Although I love all books of the Bible, I'd have to say my favorite are Psalms (shows the goodness of God), John (shows how easy it is to get saved, how love is the most important thing, and how repenting from sins is not the Gospel), Ephesians (great eternal security book as well as great moral teaching), and Galatians (absolutely the best book in refuting Lordship).  On the opposite side, if I had to give what I think are the most misunderstood books, the books that Lordshippers use the most at us, I'd say James (faith without works is dead, we are not justified by faith alone), Hebrews (classic 10:26 if we willfully sin or we must continue in the faith), Revelation (being spewed out, name blotted out, keep His commandments), and Matthew (enter through narrow way, I never knew you, parable of the guy with one talent being thrown out, goats on the left sheep on the right, etc.).  Luke, Renee, Matthias and anyone else on the panel, what are your favorite books of the Bible and what books do you think are the books that Lordshippers abuse the most?"

Q4 (@1:26:54):  "I believe that God saved us by grace through all dispensations, unlike what we label as 'Hyper dispensationalism teaching' which says that grace alone is only in the church age.  But in the Old Testament, with God saying things like 'My law is your life' and 'the soul who sins will die' (Ezekiel 18). Then God 'divorcing' and 'rejecting' Israel because of its' idolatry and God talking about rejecting and cutting people off because they did not obey Him (and there are more examples); it really looks like the Old Testament people were saved by grace plus works. Is the Old Testament teaching grace plus works, especially since God is so black and white - i.e. soul who sins will die.
Although I totally disagree with people who teach this e.g. Robert Breaker, I can easily see why they believe this – because God's judgments and black and white statements just hit you in the face. That brings me to the second part of this question which is, should we show grace and love as fellow brothers to people who see things like that (which is what I think we should be doing) or just reject them, speak harshly to them and 'expose' them 'false teachers' and 'heretics?"