"Do you believe in God?" - What did Dr. Jung "Know" when asked? -  Dr. Jung's Meeting with Izdubar
Channel: Carl Jung Depth Psychology Reading Group
Date: 2023-06-25

This reading and commentary covers pages 277-299 of the Reader's Edition of _The Red Book_ by C.G. Jung.  In this section, which occurred January 8-9, 1914, Dr. Jung recounts his visionary encounter with Izdubar [later referred to as Gilgamesh, humanity's oldest myth].  We see that on January 9, 1914, Dr. Jung had the insight, which allowed him to "Know" when he was asked if he believed in God.  

This insight allowed Dr. Jung to heal Izdubar, and therefore heal the rift in all of the World's religions.  If you understand this, you understand everything, including why ALL of the religious wars of all ages were wrong headed, and why guilt mongers in the World's religions are wrong headed.  

With this insight, Dr. Jung could say at ¶751 of _Answer to Job_, "What most people overlook or seem unable to understand is the fact that I regard the psyche as real. They believe only in physical facts, and must consequently  come to the conclusion that either the uranium itself or the laboratory equipment created the atom bomb.  That is no less absurd than the assumption that a non-real psyche is responsible for it.  God is an obvious psychic and non-physical fact, i.e. a fact that can be established psychically but not physically....

And at ¶752, "It does not matter at all that a physically impossible fact is asserted, because ALL religious assertions are physical impossibilities. If they were not so, they would, as I said earlier, necessarily be treated in the text-books of natural science.  But religious statements without exception have to do with the reality of the psyche and not with the reality of the physis."

Of course, Dr. Jung said this in an obscure way, rather like when "reverse polish notation" started to be used in calculators in the early 1970s.  He gives you the puzzle about the atom bomb and what he was saying there.  But any modestly intelligent human being can work it out and see his point.  

So let me say it plainly.  God IS.  God exists in the psyche of humanity, and perhaps in the psyches of all sentient beings.  Does your dog think of you as a god; or does you cat think of itself as a god? We can speculate!  Perhaps both are true.   

You are encouraged to watch the remarkable 3.25 minute documentary by Digital Fusion on the making of the 2009 Folio Edition of Dr. Jung's Red Book: https://youtu.be/nIBQFSwX1UY  

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