(15of20) TREATIES don't need Referendum -Ghillar, Michael Anderson feedback on Referendum Council
Channel: Sovereign Union
Date: 2017-06-02

In reality what did not take place at the Referendum Council Convention at Yulara/Uluru was proper discussion on the two primary questions:
1) Which way are we to go? and
2) What are our choices, our pathways? 

What was not raised nor discussed was that on these points it is imperative that they are followed up by definitions, that is to say: 
A) Do we want to be included in the constitution by way of constitutional referendum? or             B) Do we want a Treaty/ Treaties between the Commonwealth government, or Britain, and the Sovereign First Nations of this island continent as we continue to hold the continental common law?

These are the questions that should have been dealt with in detail, but were never responded to individually.

The program and agenda items represented the hedging of these two very important questions. Clearly, members of the Referendum Council worked very hard to avoid making this a black and white issue on these two points. In fact, they drove the proceedings of the meeting in such a way that confused everybody. 
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Despite all the rigging and wrongdoings, the consensus that was finalised was:

1) Sovereignty was never ceded;
2) Rejection of being 'recognised' in the constitution; 
3) No support a minimalist approach to constitutional reform; 
4) Agreement that a Treaty/Makarrata Commission be established to develop a national framework going forward that would permit each Sovereign Nation State to negotiate their own respective Treaty; 
5) Removal of section 51 (26) from the constitution; 
6) Establishment of Truth and Justice Commission;  
7) Resolved also that the constitution of Australia should have a Bill of Rights; and
8) Establishment of an elected Voice to the parliament and to ensure that this Voice has constitutional backing.

Going forward, I must say there was not enough time to discuss definitive aspects of each of these points. In particular, on the question of a Treaty/Treaties or Makarrata there was no time for a dialogue on this point, or to flesh out the differences between a Makarrata, which is a domestic treaty, and Sovereign Treaties under international law. Neither was it properly discussed that the Australian constitution already has the facility to treaty with Sovereign First Nations, without a referendum. 

Noel Pearson could only present one pathway – be in the constitution first, then talk about Treaty/Treaties, but that is wrong legal advice, because as soon as First Nations Peoples become constitutionally recognised by a Constitutional head of power, it can be argued that the Convention at Uluru consented to be governed as Australian citizens.  If this were successful and the outcome of anything going forward, then there can no longer be sovereign treaties, only domestic treaties, controlled by the existing colonial laws of Commonwealth and State governments. Ghillar, Michael Anderson
http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/perfecting-trickery-referendum-council

More info:

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/wrong-legal-advice-professors-referendum-and-sovereignty

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/murrawarri-nations’-analysis-uluru-statement-heart-uluru-statement

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/wrong-legal-advice-professors-referendum-and-sovereignty

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/governments-attempting-counter-sovereignty-movement-understanding-when-we-are-winning

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/formal-complaint-against-referendum-council-dialogue-processes-national-convention-uluru

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/beware-programmed-de-aboriginalised-aboriginals

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/referendum-councils-constitutional-dialogue-processes-fatally-flawed

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/formation-first-nations-renewable-energy-alliance

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/grassroots-aboriginal-movement-nsw-squashes-recognise

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/1-2-3-sovereignty-thats-how-easy-it-can-be

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/content/government-asking-you-blindly-vote-changes-referendum-without-even-clarifying-final-wording

http://nationalunitygovernment.org/governments-attempting-to-steal-our-original-sovereign-citizenship-and-independence