Atheism: Objective Reality Problem of Knowledge Descartes Doesn't Exist Philosophy
Channel: Undrunk- Sober Interests of an Optimistic Nihilist
Date: 2021-04-22

Atheist Atheism Objective Reality Problem of Knowledge Descartes Doesn't Exist Philosophy Subjective
Excerpt (Auto-Generated): I saw angling to do with atheists being
moral and I followed this sort of train
of videos and trying to get an answer to
the question I went ahead and looked at
three different apologists who talked
about atheism and morality and I've also
looked at some atheists videos on
atheism and morality and I want to
instead of just saying in one video can
atheist be moral actually when I looked
at the videos it's pretty obvious both
people of faith and atheists agree that
atheists can be moral so I wanted to
take the discussion a little bit farther
than that and go more into the Christian
apologetics idea to understand where was
that they were coming from in the videos
that you'll watch you'll see that there
are three basic points that the
Christian men in the videos are making
one they all agree that atheists can be
moral they can behave quite morally that
they can you know that they're not
running around killing people the idea
that somehow you can't be a moral person
and be an atheist they don't even try to
defend and of course, atheists will say


the evil they don't know they know right
from wrong even though they don't know
God they still have the benefits of
having moral sensibilities even though
they don't know God not really sure how
laws are written on our hearts but okay
so that's the basic the three points
atheists can be moral the problem for
atheists are not that they can't be more
but that they have nothing other than
their own subjective moral morality to
decide what is moral and even though
they don't have objective morality and
they're using their subjective
perspectives to decide what is moral
those subjective perspectives are
informed by the objective morality that
go out God has put on their hearts I
guess is that what they're saying anyway
there's a guy on YouTube I'll put his
video on I'll intersperse it with my
discussion so you can kind of keep up
and see where he's coming from and where
I'm coming from the kind of starts out by
saying that because ninety-five percent
of people agree that murder is wrong or
that ninety-five percent of people agree
that murder or harming a child is wrong
that shows that we all have access
to some kind of an objective view of
the morality of murder or harming a child
when I look at different people's
beliefs around the world it seems that
gosh like ninety-five percent agree
murder is wrong abusing a child is wrong
so you say that ninety-five percent of
people think that murder
or that harming a child is wrong but if
it was objectively true wouldn't it be a
hundred percent so the idea that
ninety-five percent suddenly gets you to
objective reality ya got some problems
with that the other question is what is
murder right because if you want to say
that murder is one person killing
another person and we're saying that
that's objectively wrong because
everybody agrees on in well not really I
mean there's a lot of exceptions
self-defense there's a pretty good
exception being in war and having to
defend your homeland seem kind of weird
to just say murder is objectively wrong
when there are clearly a lot of times
when we say it's not wrong that I think
is a bit of a problem right it's like
we're playing in this Orchestra and
we're all reading off the same sheet
music around the world right I think
that clearly points to us to the fact
that there's a conscience that human
beings possess a conscience meaning by
that immoral indicator that we have
within us now I think it's obvious that
our moral indicators insist there's
objective morality my experience of life
is certain things are really right and
other things are really really wrong
right and I would argue that's moral
experience and I'm not entirely sure
what a real moral thing is or a moral
experience I mean if he's saying that
it's a moral experience isn't
experienced what it is it's not coming
from God it's an experience we're
observing it we're experiencing it we're
learning that doesn't seem to me to be
objective morality if we're calling it
moral experience now if that's true that
some things are really truly right and
other things are really truly wrong
there's got to be some moral lawgiver
now he hasn't actually established that
things are truly right and truly wrong
he conceded that ninety-five percent of
people say that mu
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:18 1st Video Clip. Atheism and the Objective Reality
00:13:45 2nd Video Clip. The Debate That Never Was. Michael Martin Chickened Out.