2018-07-14 NSSAT NSDRM - Dream Explorations: Eldar, Regina
Channel: Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Date: 2018-07-31

2018-07-14 NSSAT NSDRM - Dream Explorations: Eldar, Regina

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 SynopsisSome initial and ending chit-chat, but mostly for this Saturday's chat, Pierre helps Eldar and Regina explore what Mind is telling them.HighlightsJeffL - Why am I loyal to the same BS?Eldar's dreamwhat does it take for you to get into that kind of thinking/reflection?"average""neotony" and the lie of "you need to rely on us" (family level, but society, too)Why is it that all problems are about the Self?Having an eye when among the blindThe Golden West College studyPierre did this. We have archived it here: A Pilot Study of Students at Golden West College; Their Perceptions of the College, Themselves, and the Learning Experience. A Motivation Study Based upon Personal Interviews of Eighty-Eight Students..Education -&gt; Golden West College study -&gt; Selfers -&gt; political ramifications, Trust, ParmenidesWhat are the ramifications of the four classes of students (found in the GWC study) on the Destiny of Man?Regina's dreamargument"ex temporaneous""she was able to hold her point. But am not there.""imitation"Dream TextsEldar’s Dream 07.14.18We were about to have sex, but it didn’t happen, because there was a problem of some kind.I was walking past a guy that was selling something on the street, he had a table set up. A pedestrian was walking past him and the merchant said something like “Brilliant Light of Being!!” like he was selling it. But actually what it meant was that he was selling some drugs that will get you there. The pedestrian didn’t stop, he kept walking. I thought it was funny the way that he was advertising/calling out. When I walked past him I told him that I thought it was funny.Then I walked up to this kind of Noetic Society class and sat down. On my left was Sarah and on the right was Belinda. It was really nice and... Pierre had asked a question and it had gotten very quiet for a little while, which was very nice. Sarah next to me was...For all of us we had some weird boxes with stuff in them, and our tables had... I think there was a difference in the height of our tables, or they were a bit wobbly, because they weren’t sitting down flat. Someone behind Sarah and I said that “The table is shaky” or “The table is high on one side” then Pierre asked “By the way, do you know why that is?”Then I thought and I said kind of to Sarah/kind of to myself “i wonder if she knows why!” because I did know the answer. I think Belinda tried to answer it. She didn’t quite get it, but then Pierre helped her a little and then she realized it and gave the right answer.Regina's Dream 7/14/18I was a High School. I was to talk to this class. I wen in looking for a teacher. She was a young teacher and I the first time introduced my name to her. But, she said she was marie and kept going.I then went to her class and waited till she came. She did. I went to her podium and again said who I was and what I do is talk with students individually or present to the classes about how to Self Reflect.As soon as she heard that she backed away and was extactially happy to have me talk to the class.She asked are you saying that you will present a method, that is how to do it I said yes. She asked can I start now. I said well I was expecting to. prepare and then come back. But, she said can you do it now. I said I guess I could, I could come up with a format for the hour. She was happy and She left and said it is all yours. You have the floor.Students were coming into the class. I stood at the front of the class and was nervous because I wasn’t prepared as I this was extemporaneous. But, I thought about it and saw I could ask some questions to the class. I started that way. I asked questions about the problems they had doing their school work.There were some students listening but others not.Then it became distracted. The room was split in too. I asked one part of the class to move to the second room. But, as I did that I noticed there wasn’t any boards up on the wall. They had plenty of boards small one’s but none up on the board. So, 1 thought I would use a flip chart. But, nothing like that either. So, I started again to ask. questions to the class.But again it got disrupted. It was now 45 minutes and it was the end of the class. There was this kid who came up and asked me some questions about what I had said. I don’t remember the dialgoues that went on, it was ore distractions ! left with the student. He asked fora ride home. Isaid sure. On the way we talked. He wanted to know more about this idea of how to self reflect. I had mentioned in the class about the book philosophical midwifery and that it showed how to do it. I got to his house and he said ok Ill drop you off. I said no I’ll take my car and you can drop off. That’s what I didMore InfoPierre Grimes and Philosophical MidwiferyThe Noetic SocietyThe Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.