1985-05-07 NSFRI - Plato - Theaetetus - 145a-150a - Does a Key Part of this Dialogue Apply to the W
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 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society -- 1985-05-07 NSFRI - Plato - Theaetetus - 145a-150a - Does a Key Part of this Dialogue Apply to the Whole?
Dialogue(s): theaetetus Sections: 145a-150a [The first minute or so is frozen because video was lost on original tapes, but we still had audio. -JS] Notes: The first 15 minutes are off-topic: First Pierre reads a letter from JulieH inviting members of the group to a retreat at a Buddhist monastery in Korea this summer. Next they discuss what happened when members of the NS visited the SYDA foundation group up in Los Angeles / Santa Monica ( www.siddhayoga.org ), with Gurumayi Chidvilasananda on Fri 4/26 to hear a talk, and then the ensuing talk the next day (Saturday 4/27) which Gurumayi gave to her own group.  [See also their discussion during the last 10 minutes of the session from 4/23 when they are planning logistics. -JS]   It is clear that their ideas about philosophy differed since the visited group believed philosophy should only be practical! Only Stephanus 145a-150 are read and discussed during this session, which is a continuation of a talk earlier in the week but may not have been recorded. Theaetetus discussion started with a comparison between a midwife and a philosophical midwife. Pierre describes the section from 145d to 146a as a part of the dialogue that may apply to the whole. Theaetetus is confused about why it takes help to determine what knowledge is! As in childbirth, does it take a certain knowledge? What are the key differences between the two types of midwives? Does Socrates turn out to match the points made at 148e? If Socrates is pregnant and working with someone else as a midwife, he should be barren according to the principles of philosophical midwifery. Future discussions will work on resolving this issue since it looks like Socrates is also philosophically pregnant! Notes: Camera is not always well directed - difficult to see boardnotes but the discussion is pretty good! First 14 minutes of unrelated discussion could have been cut. We left it in only for historical purposes. [Thanks to BillD for video-taping, and to JulieP for title, cataloguing, and notes.] Stephanus Pages, Explicit (for searching): 145a 145b 145c 145d 145e 146a 146b 146c 146d 146d 146e 147a 147b 147c 147d 147e 148a 148b 148c 148d 148e 149a 149b 149c 149d 149e 150a More info: http://noeticsociety.org