Society 2045 Friday Talks: S2E21, Jerry Michalski, Tech Visionary for 30+ years
Channel: Society 2045
Date: 2022-09-26

The Society 2045 Friday Talks are interviews of leaders of various movements bringing about a healthier future. Our intent is to figure out what these movement have a common and building the grand mosaic.

In this episode, Jerry Michalski is interviewed by Ken Homer.

Meeting notes,
https://otter.ai/u/tqcEnPbbLBJ6rMGFMZ65pQ7f4oQ?utm_source=va_chat_link
00:26:39 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: Thanks Kevin!
00:27:03 Gail Franklin: I'm curioius about the definition of the word "trust" as used in this conversation
00:27:18 Doug Breitbart: Ditto
00:35:03 Gail Franklin: trust = predict reliably?
00:35:29 Gail Franklin: or "depend on the circumstances I perceive"?
00:39:39 Michael Linton: http://TEQS.net
00:46:48 charles blass: never stopped making mistakes
00:46:58 charles blass: mixtapes LOL
00:52:27 charles blass: what is “web 3” and how much have you looked though ?
00:54:02 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: Grace I wil call on you after Matt since he and Charles started to talk at the same time…
00:57:53 Gail Franklin: more like a fedwiki than a book?
01:03:11 charles blass: re web3
fully agree on the culture generally
understood, my optimism remains in the corners where i’m collaborating while i filter most of the noise and crap
01:03:36 Jerry Michalski: seems you've found your way into awesome pockets inside a larger weird culture
01:11:32 Gail Franklin: "A really tasty flower"...Ian McGilchrist's new book, The Matter with Things - how western culture has become ossified in processes and expressions related to the brain's  left hemisphere - turning away from the larger social values of the right hemisphere
01:11:50 Jerry Michalski: oh cool! didn't know he had a new book out
01:14:39 Michael Linton: https://kumu.io/mwl/pop-up-mapping
01:16:08 Michael Linton: sense-making instrument
01:17:38 Gail Franklin: What Jose said! We can "trust" irresponsibly, to a point of blameful/manipulative dependence on another
01:18:12 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory
01:19:04 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: https://burningman.org/about/10-principles/
01:20:57 Gail Franklin: Governance among groups around watersheds - say more?
01:21:08 Grace Rachmany: The watershed / river governance struture was part of my thinking for the initial Voice of Humanity whitepaper, so it is written down somewhere
01:21:11 charles blass: money helps get the good devs
01:22:35 charles blass: happy friday/ wknd!✌🏼
01:22:50 Grace Rachmany: Guess who has...
01:23:55 Jerry Michalski: how did I miss deep ecology summer school??
01:24:04 Jerry Michalski: book title again? slipped from short term memory
01:24:10 Jerry Michalski: Home...
01:26:15 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: https://newsociety.com/books/h/home
01:29:16 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: see also: The Nutmeg's Curse: https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-03-21/the-nutmegs-curse-review/
01:29:41 Jerry Michalski: ah, the Nutmeg 🙂
01:29:50 Jerry Michalski: that old chestnut... er, nutmeg
01:30:03 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: We all live downstream
01:30:40 Jerry Michalski: interesting story about reducing open defacation
01:31:32 Jerry Michalski: oops, defecation 🙂  poop!
01:33:32 Ken Homer • SF Bay Area •: Speaking of defecation: it's Burnston-Marstellar who pioneered the mea cupla approach to re-habing reprehensible behavior by public figures who’ve been disgraced
01:33:40 Gail Franklin: Andy Tudhope and the Kernel https://www.kernel.community/en/conversation/
01:36:00 Jerry Michalski: so complicated! turns you right off settling
01:38:10 Jerry Michalski: https://bra.in/4qZmLd
01:38:12 Jerry Michalski: my notes
01:39:05 Grace Rachmany: growing mushrooms instead of talking about them.
01:39:11 Jerry Michalski: niiiiice
01:39:45 Gail Franklin: Thanks for your notes, Jerry - and your contribution today