Decolonising Fire Science - Dr Philip Zylstra with Uncle David Wandin
Channel: The Royal Society of Victoria
Date: 21/07/2023

We can expect that the science of fire should intersect with fire use by First Peoples, because an understanding of fire that enabled cultures to coexist with it for at least 65,000 years must have its roots in scientific reality. Our understanding of that relationship is, however, deeply troubled.

The predominant concepts of modern fire science arise from a paradigm that valorises the role of human agency, dismissing and even demonising natural ecological processes. The result is that fire science has become a tool with which Indigenous fire knowledge is reinterpreted to support the colonial narrative and reinforce pseudo-science in a loop of circular reasoning. The implications of this are far-reaching, and poor fire science now drives management that decimates carbon storage, threatens the existence of numerous species, and drives much of the impact of bushfire on human society.

Ecologist and environmental scientist Dr Philip Zylstra is joined by Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Elder, Uncle David Wandin, to examine the roots of this dilemma. Phil provides examples in the current context, then demonstrate how the narrative is reversed when we adopt an understanding of fire that is informed by ecological processes, interpreted within a sound mechanistic framework. Using the Fire Research and Modelling Environment (FRaME), Philip will introduce Ecological Control Theory, showing how forests limited the impacts of fire and maintained thriving populations of fire-sensitive species long before the arrival of humans.

Finally, Phil and Uncle Dave demonstrate how a paradigm of cooperation rather than domination allowed for the long-term coexistence with fire demonstrated by First Peoples, and the ways that we can adjust our current approaches to cooperate with Country.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:08 Welcome to Country by Uncle David Wandin
00:10:40 Introduction to the lecture topic
00:14:18 Pre-lecture chat
00:17:16 Lecture start
01:32:33 Q&A

*About the Speakers*

*Dr Philip Zylstra* came into bushfire research from a background in fire management and remote area firefighting. Since that time he has developed the first and only peer-reviewed fire behaviour model for most Australian forests, as well as the first model globally to calculate the direct effects of fire on flora, fauna and soils. His work focuses on understanding the ways that our interaction with forests affect fire risk. Using fire history analysis and state-of-the-art modelling, Phil’s work reconciles deep knowledge from First Peoples with forest ecology and a complex understanding of fire behaviour to provide critically-needed guidance in fire management.

Phil is an Adjunct Associate Professor with Curtin University’s School of Molecular and Life Sciences (Perth), and a Research Associate of the University of New South Wales (Sydney).

*Uncle David Wandin* is a Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung Elder and Cultural Practices Manager (Fire and Water) at the Wurundjeri Woi-wurrung Cultural Heritage Aboriginal Corporation. He is a recognised leader in the promotion and execution of cultural (cool) burns in Victoria. 

Prior to this role, Uncle Dave was instrumental in the establishment of the Corporation’s Narrap Team, a group of cultural land managers. He has also sat on the Waterways of the West Ministerial Advisory Committee. 

Uncle Dave is the chairperson of the Wandoon Estate Aboriginal Corporation. This organisation represents the Wurundjeri people, the Indigenous owners of the historical property “Coranderrk” in the Yarra Valley. Set up as an Aboriginal Reserve in 1863, Coranderrk closed in 1924. In 1999, the Indigenous Land Corporation purchased 80 hectares of the property and gave ownership to the Wandoon Estate. Coranderrk now operates as a farm for native bush foods and to restore environmental health and productivity to the farm.