Kate Conger on What We Learned From Prop 22
Channel: The Rideshare Guy
Date: 2020-11-20

Today in this video of The Rideshare Guy Podcast, Harry Campbell will be talking with Kate Conger of The New York Times about why this prop 22 was so important and what it means for drivers. Will this have a heavy influence on other states? Find out what this means for Uber and Lyft drivers, Postmates and DoorDash couriers and more in California and other states! When it comes to Uber News, a big change could be coming for Rideshare Drivers in California! Are Lyft Drivers and Uber Drivers really Independent Contractors or are they employees? Over the past few years, the line between independent contractors and employees has been very thin for rideshare drivers. At the beginning of this year, Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) was passed, making rideshare drivers employees in California. The rideshare companies are now being sued for not complying with this new law and the outcome of this will set the standard for other states to adopt a similar model. As a response, prop 22 was created and the voting for if drivers in California will become employees or remain independent contractors has concluded. 

Intro to Kate Conger

Technology writer for the NYTimes
Covers the rideshare sector and has been following Prop 22 closely
Based out of San Francisco
Outcome of Prop 22 did not surprise her

How Has COVID Impacted This Discussion

Drivers will be looking out to see promises kept – especially when it comes to health care
Unemployment fund – businesses pay into this
From state’s perspective, Uber and Lyft are skimming
Drivers got the best of both worlds, but not sustainable

Why Did Prop 22 Succeed?

Money was a big factor
Wildly differing claims for Yes vs No – both sides leaned into the extreme scenarios
Competing information – it was actually hard to follow even as someone who follows this closely!
It was undeniable that some drivers would be cut, but never got to the bottom of what that would look like
Having access to driver and passenger info was a big factor, too

Messaging Against Prop 22

Full-time drivers keep gig companies afloat
There wasn’t enough of a conversation about the full-time drivers
FT drivers do want better benefits, but that messaging is more difficult to get out
Everyone got caught up in polling and surveys, but didn’t follow the narrative through – what are these surveys actually saying? Don’t get distracted by one survey

Prop 22: Going Nationwide?

Other states are looking into something like AB5 – waited to see how it played out in CA
Some states already have AB5 laws in their books – like MA
From the gig companies’ perspectives, they don’t want to keep spending $200M – looking to get this figured out at the federal level
Incoming admin (Biden/Harris) could prove challenging


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