Turkey Coup What happened and what it signifies
Channel: aligzanduh
Date: 2016-07-21

What I have learned since recording this is that he declared fulen movement elements terrorist organizations. These schools were officially billed as secular and dedicated to science. and that Gulen was a sufi. While I still presume the Gulen movement insidious in some fashion. It is wrong to declare it a terrorist organization. He banned it earlier this year. Call us terrorists then we must be terrorists. A coup or a revolution both involve terror for some. The reason the Gulen movement is tolerated is that their official charter: Secular education dedicated to science, Gulen met with Patriarch of Orthodox, Pope, etc, opposes Syria intervention.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/07/turkey-coup-attempt-may-push-erdogan-iran-russia.html 
The coup in Turkey was certainly a weak and sloppy coup

Whatever happens Turkey is now a police state – but for it to make money it will have to appear “reasonable”. It will be interesting to see how this deeply divided nation shifts.
Turkey has 4 main idealogical power bases
On the right there are the ultra nationalists, the gulenists and the AKP, the party of Erdogan. As well as other conservative religious forces.
On the center left are the supporters of a secular Turkey, with maximum personal freedom in womens rights, dress, speech and choice of religion or not. The followers of Ataturk the founder of the modern Turkish republic. Ataturk changed the country to be less oriental in its nature and adopting parts of western civilization, namely secularism and rational science.  In the early 1900s movements like this sought a vanguard of the revolution, and his was the Armed Forces. They are tasked in the constitution to safeguard secularism. The army has conducted at least 3 cases of suspending the civilian govt on the grounds that it had stepped out of its secular role as defined in the constitution.

Then there are the Kurds, Turkeys largest minority. A people who live in Iraq, Syria and Turkey in Kurdistan and throughout Turkey. There is a Turkish Kurdish Party in the Parliament, and a rebel organization called the PKK which is in a military conflict as brutal as Syria in parts of Turkey along the Syria border.
Fetulah Gulen is a billionaire funding conservative religious madrasa style schools all over Central Asia and Turkey. He also operates the largest charter school chain in the US. Gulen’s foundations are worth over 10 billion dollars. It is an odd alliance, as Gulen clearly must be cooperating with the US intelligence to be allowed to live in Pennsylvania. The worst case is that we are seeking to create a buffer against Russia in the former USSR Turkic States. The Gulen business and educational network in Turkey grew to be a threat to Erdogan and he split with his former idealogical soulmate in 2013.
The US has funded the Kurds in Syria and Iraq to fight ISIS, and the government of Bashar Al Assad.


Why was the coup so weak? Because the Armed forces had already been purged in the Ergenekon trial of 2013.
The pro coup armed forces did several un coup like things:
1) They began with a 9P arrest. Coups nornally occur when everyone is sleeping at 5 in the morning. Supposedly the beans spilled and everything got pushed up from a 3am planned timing.
1100 PM Bridges in Istanbul closed.
2) 1147 PM Erdogan departs Marmaris Airport
3) 1223 AM Erdogan begins transmitting messages
4) 100 AM Erdogan gives facetime interview with TURK CNN
5) 113 AM Tanks firing inside the airport
6) 0240 Erdogan arrives Istanbul Airport
7) 308 AM attack on Turkish parliament
8) 4:00 AM attack on hotel in Marmaris
I personally think who is involved with the coup – will determine which power structures should have been involved.
The Turks who took a poll think 50% Gulenists, 35% Erdogan himself and only 10% the Kemalists, and 5% the CIA.
What precipitated the coup
I find it interesting that about 1 week prior to the coup – Erdogans ally pm Yildirim
The big questions are
Why did the coup clearly occur starting around 9-11pm and not the usual time? Did the beans get spilled.
Many would ask why wasn’t the first action to seize Erdogan – instead of occurring at 4AM
Were the coup plotters betrayed? The first action is allways to arrest the President and PM.
The rank and file soldiers were told they were on a drill. Why not have an elite guard on each units back to cut down any soldiers that are opposed to the coup.