1985-12-17 NSFRI - Plotinus - Enneads - The Soul Source, and Finding What We Have Forgotten
Channel: Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Date: 2018-03-08

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 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society -- 1985-12-17 NSFRI - Plotinus - Enneads - The Soul Source, and Finding What We Have Forgotten
Enneads V, 1, 1-3 (Ennead V, Treatise 1, Chapters 1-3) Below is a brief review of topics covered from Scott. His more extensive notes are in the PDF in the Download Options menu on this page. 1). 1985-12-17_NSFRI Plotinus : The Soul Source, and Finding What We Have Forgotten 2). Plotinus Ennead V.I The Three Primal Hypostases Reading Chapters 1-3 from the following texts: Plotinus: The Enneads, Stephen MacKenna translation Plotinus Enneads V, the Loeb Edition, A.H. Armstrong translation The Essential Plotinus, Elmer O'Brien 3). Topics Covered A. Comparing translations throughout the video. 22:30 Pierre: It's so important when you start a work to know where the translator is.... that's the value of having several different copies in front of you , so when you get to something you enjoy looking at you can bounce back and forth to a couple of translations. Thank goodness we have different translations. B. What makes souls forget their source? 13:00 Reading McKenna's translation: "What can it be that has brought the souls to forget the father, God, and, though members of the Divine and entirely of that world, to ignore at once themselves and It? ... their regard for the mundane and their disregard of themselves bring about their utter ignoring of the Divine." C. Does the soul have the power to investigate its source? 21:00 Reading O'Brien's translation: "It is the soul which desires to know. Therefore the soul must first examine its own nature in order to know itself and decide whether it is capable of such an investigation, has an eye capable of such seeing, and whether such seeking is its function . If the things it seeks are alien to the soul, what good will its seeking do? But, if the soul is akin to them and it seeks them, it can find them." D. By what method can they be brought to seek and remember? 1:05:00 Pierre: One translation makes it a practice, the other does not . So if you're going to practice this, it's worth knowing which translation you're going to practice. In one sense, it's just a reflection: Hey, I want to show you something. But what would you have to do to do it [as a practice]? E. What is the relationship between Soul and Intelligence? 1:19:00 Reading from O'Brien: "Just as the spoken word is the image of the word in the soul, the soul itself is the image of the word in the intelligence, and is the act of the intelligence, by which a further level of existence is produced." [Thanks to BillD for video-recording, and to HScottA for title, cataloguing info, and notes.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org