FRAMING THE QUESTION, THE REALITY OF LABLES
Channel: Mark Hidden
Date: 2014-06-13

Warren Farrell - The Myth of Male Power
http://youtu.be/L8Raufh8fP8?t=12m26s
Honey Badger Radio:
http://youtu.be/dWBm2WMCd7o
The comment I posted
Why do people like Steven Pinker feel obligated to call themselves feminist. I found http://youtu.be/9bTKRkmwtGY?t=6m40s statement from Steve.  Now clearly he is well aware of sex differences, and is no stranger to controversy but still he feels the need to side with Feminist.  Now Warren Farrell still thinks of himself as a Feminist... though I guess his wife will hit him if he calls her one.  So am I wrong in saying that you can be and MRA Feminist?  Legally there is no trademark on Feminism.  And my point in end of feminism is not anti women, but anti ideology. Ultimately I am against bad ideas, and to a lesser extent bad labels. The meaning of a label can change over time, and maybe MRA's maybe well advised to adopt a Feminist Label.  If you goal is to fuck their shit up. For example, try changing the label on a vodka bottle sometime,  It's good for a laugh and it' clearly  illustrates the point of a label.  The goal of many feminist is to make the MRA label a toxic brand. Which means, Letting the feminist win this argument is the best judo move MRA's could make.  On the voice for Men. "The Feminist have won, The voice for men will now be know as The Feminist humanist Voice for Men. "  Honey Badger well they're just "Honey Badgers" Good branding by the way. That's the nice thing about using a self definable label.  Sometimes the best way to win this fight is to lose.  Yes and I have an example, in the movie Next Nicolas cage takes a beating to win a girl.  Yes I suppose it is white knight theology, but I think there's merit in the sentiment. A better example is "The Color of Money." I would argue if you care about what you're doing, you have to care about how people see you.  Feminism is a ridicules label, but it is the effective label.