1985-05-21 NSFRI - Plato - Theaetetus (149a-151d,172c-177b) - What Do Knowledge, Philosophy and Rhe
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 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society -- 1985-05-21 NSFRI - Plato - Theaetetus (149a-151d,172c-177b) - What Do Knowledge, Philosophy and Rhetoric Have to Do with Philosophical Midwifery?
Dialogue(s): theaetetus Stephanus Pages: 149a-151d,172c-177b Notes: Theaetetus study: is the kind of knowledge called Philosophical Midwifery essential? If so, why? Is the Digression a part of the answer to that question? The first several minutes of this class present the challenge Pierre has written on the board. This challenge is given as homework for the next session and the camera does a good closeup, so wait for it if you want to take notes. The words are: "What does it take to bring to birth Theaetetus' conception - 160E to 172b - Nature of the objections against Protagoras, perceiving is knowing; defense of Protagoras, criticism against Protagoras." This section is not read or discussed today. Reading begins 17 minutes into session (149a to 151d) with the goal of understanding more about the knowledge of philosophical midwifery. Pierre asks what would happen to man/PMW with the Art and without it. Is it essential? Then reading the Digression (172c- 177b). How does this discussion of philosophy and rhetoric help us to compare them? 175c is pointed at to see what philosophy is really concerned with. Does the Digression throw light on the 3 kinds of knowledge Pierre lists on the board? (Knowledge of PMW, Knowledge of midwifery and Knowledge of the sort of plant or seed that should be sown in any given soil...) The way Pierre is studying the Theaetetus is to break it down into parts, sections if you will, and they are treated as distinct mini-wholes and then at other times, he may thread them all together. This session has three of those parts if you count the intro which is really an assignment for the following session. No technical issues. Good session. [Thanks to BillD for videotaping, and to JulieP for title, Stephanus pages, and notes.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org