1985-03-05 NSFRI - Plato - Phaedo - Ousia, Another Fine Ness I've Gotten Me Into
Channel: Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Date: 09/03/2018

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 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society -- 1985-03-05 NSFRI - Plato - Phaedo - Ousia, Another Fine Ness I've Gotten Me Into
Dialogue(s): phaedo Sections: 99c-105e Topics Covered, Video Highlights, and Notes Introduction: Restructuring the English Language Pierre graphically examines three suffixes: ed, ly, and ness. He challenges the group to find terms that can take all three suffixes without modification or irregularity: Equaled Equally Equalness Steadied Steadily Steadiness 12:40 An imperfect example: The fool, easily fooled, was foolishly foolish. 14:10 A pure inflected language would preserve distinctions. 17:00 States (ness) and manner (ly) can participate to become (lyness) [Scott: my own whimsical example: Wholeness + Wholly = Wholliness] 17:30 "What Socrates is doing in the Phaedo...." This is the intelligibility. 18:30 This is the state (ness); this participates (ly); this has participated (ed). Calmness Calmly Calmed Orderliness Orderly Ordered 20:30 "Things" and "Relations". 24:00 "The way anything is done". 25:45 "Opposites". 26:15 "The secret behind Platonic Dialogue". 28:45 Things and Relations and Ideas : 3 classes. 33:00 Cause: "ness's are causes of ly's and ed's". 38:00 99c Reading starts. The reading is a reprise of the same sections as the 1985-02-26 video. 43:30 100c "If anything is beautiful besides absolute beauty, it is beautiful for no other reason than because it partakes of absolute beauty; and this applies to everything. Do you assent to this view of cause?" 46:00 Cause: ”How" a cause is gained as a cause is not Plato's focus. The condition that allows something to be before the "how" is what Plato regards as cause. 51:00 Four divided by two equaling two is not the cause of two. Twelve divided by six does not cause two. Two is two because it inherently participates in twoness. 51:40 "ness" is ousia The proper "ness" of each thing essence = "ness" = ousia 1:08:00 105a Opposites will not admit their opposites (without withdrawing or changing their nature...by ceasing to be opposites...or perishing). (Thanks to BillD for videorecording, and HScottA for title, cataloguing, and above notes) More info: http://noeticsociety.org Stephanus pages, Explicit (for searching): 99c 99d 99e 100a 100b 100c 100d 100e 101a 101b 101c 101d 101e 102a 102b 102c 102d 102e 103a 103b 103c 103d 103e 104a 104b 104c 104d 104e 105a 105b 105c 105d 105e