Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5202, John Hoople, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Hoople, John Cleaner
R. 5202
CONTENTS

Eleanor Hoople
Widow of John Hoople
Act 5 th July 1888.
Filed March 9. 1884
Erasmus H. Hunt Washington City

Province of Canada. United Counties of Stormont Dundas and Glengary.
On the sixteenth day of January 1854 personally appeared before me R. H. Bullock Esq. A commissioner duly appointed for taking Affidavits in the Majestys Court of Queens Bench for said Counties. Elenor Hoople Aged as she avers eighty four years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of George passed July 7. 1838 and also the balance of her husbands Pension unclaimed by him from the 4th day of March 1842 being the date being the date of her late husbands death. That she is the Widow of the late John Hoople who was a Musician in the Company of Captain Andrew Frank in the Regiment commanded by Col Van Schrick and Major Christopher Gates during three years and six months or thereabouts of the Revolutionary War. The said John Hoople removed from the United States to Canada early in the year 1784. She further declares that she is unable to say at what precise time or place her said husband entered the said Regiment nor can say when or at what place he was discharged from the said Regiment, She further says that she was married to the said John Hoople at Osnabruck in the said County of Stormont on the 11 July 1784 by an Evangelist Minister of the Presbyterian Denomination named Bryant, at which place her said husband resided to the time of his decease and at which place she still resides, We had children whose names were Sarah John Elizabeth William Peter Susan Isaac & Charles, and my said husband died on the 7th day of January 1841 as before stated and that she is still the Widow of the said Hoople and that her husband never received any pension during his life time from the United States nor from any state nor ever applied for one to her knowledge.
Sworn & subscribed before me at Osnabruck the sixteenth day of January 1854 at the residence of the said deponent who being from age and infirmity unable to sign her own hand.
R. H. Bullock Com r of the Court of Queens Bench
her Elenor Hoople Mark
And the said R. H. Bullock

doth hereby declare as his opinion after hearing the testimony of the neighbours of the above named applicant that her husband was a soldier of the revolution as above stated, and that the said Widow is the Widow of the of the said John Hoople and that he lived until the 7 day of July 1842 when he died at Osnabruck as above stated In the Province of Canada leaving having the foregoing affiant his Widow and that she is still his Widow
I further Certify and declare that I copied the following record from the Family Bible in the possession of Mrs Hoople and that she and John Hoople her son made both that the said Record was the family record of Marriages and deaths and that it had every appearance of being the family record
A Copy To Wit John Hoople Married to Eleanor Kintner the 11 th July 1784 Died Died Jan'y 7 th 1842
To all whomsoever shall see these presents Greeting Know ye that for value received I hereby appoint Glendon Lewis of Cleveland Ohio my true and lawfull Attorney in fact without power of Revocation to receive from the United States the Amounts of Pensions due me from the 4 th day of March Eighteen hundred and thirty One to the 4 day of September 1853.
Witness my hand and seal at Osnabruck this twentieth day of January 1854.
Attest.
John Archibald
Eleanor her X Hoople mark
I Robert H Bullock a commissioner for taking affidavits in the Lower Bench for the Counties of Vermont Ontario & St Lawrence Province of Canada do Certify that the foregoing Power of Attorney was executed in my presence and duly acknowledged before me on the day of the date thereof
RH Bullock Com ss

United Counties of Stormont Dundas & Glengary, Province of Canada
John Archibald of the Township of Osnabruck in the said County of Stormont says on Oath that he practiced Medicine in the said Township for more than Twelve years but has now renounced the practice of his Profession, that he attended the late John Hoople in his last illness and knows that he died about the time alleged in the forgoing affidavit of his Widow Eliza Hoople, and says further that he knows the said Eliza Hoople and that she has remained a widow to the present time
Sworn & subscribed before me at Osnabruck 16 January 1854 R. H. Bullock Com d Court of Queens Bench
John Archibald
United Counties of Stormont Dundas & Glengary Province of Canada
John Hoople of the Township of Osnabruck in the said County of Stormont makes oath and says that the Record in the forgoing Certificate of R. H. Bullock alleged to have been copied from the Record in the family Bible belonging to the Eliza Hoople is a true copy and deponent avers on his own knowledge to be the family record he deponent being the oldest son of the late John Hoople and Eliza Hoople and long acquainted with the said Bible and record. And deponent says he has traditional knowledge of the facts alleged in the forgoing affidavit of his said Mother touching the service of his Father the late John Hoople in the Revolutionary war, in Captain Fairs company, deponent is now sixty four years of age and from childhood remembers to have heard his father relate incidents of that service, deponent resides with his said Mother, and says further that his Father died as stated in the forgoing affidavit of his said Mother and has now been almost three
Sworn & subscribed before me at Osnabruck this 16 January 1854 R. H. Bullock Com d of the Queens Bench
John Hoople

United Counties of Stormont Dundas and Glengary Prison offences
On this 16 day of January 1854, personally appeared before me R K Bullock a Commissioner duly appointed for taking affidavits in the Magistrate's Court of Lower Canada; Adam Reddick of the Township of Cornwall in the said County of Stormont who being duly sworn declares that he is fifty two years of age was born in Aber- -brack in the said County of Stormont, and has resided in that place from his birth to the present time excepting for the space of about seven or eight years when he resided at Manchester in the County of Herkshire and State of N York, and deponent says that from his infancy he remembers and knows now the family of the late John Hoople, he the said Hoople was a near neighbour of deponent's Father, That the said Hoople died about the time alleged some twelve or thirteen years since, knows the Hoople his widow (she has never been married since the decease of her said Husband), And deponent says further that he knew in his life time Captain Andrew Fink in whose company the said John Hoople is alleged to have served during the Revolutionary war, he Fink was an acquaintance of deponent's father, and about fifty years since came from the United States to visit his said Father, During the said visit he Capt Fink inquired after the late John Hoople, and stated that he served in his company, called him his "little Fifer" and recollects well his having the house of deponent's father with a view intention of going to see him the said John Hoople, And deponent says further that during his residence in Herkshire County he knew the said Captain Fink and had frequent intercourse with him, and in conversation in the said Fink often alluded to the circumstance of the late John Hoople having served in his company in the Revolutionary war and further deponent saith not,
Sworn & subscribed before me at Cornwall this 16 January
1854
R K Bullock
Comm r of Court of Queens Bench for and in said United Counties
Adam Reddick

United Counties of Stormont Dundas and Glengarry
Province of Canada
On this 16th day of January 1854 Personally appeared before me Robert H. Bullock Esq. a commissioner duly appointed for taking Affidavits in the Majesty's Court of Queen's Bench who being duly sworn declares that he is sixty three years of age, and for more than forty years has been a neighbour of the late John Hoople and his family, The said Hoople died some twelve or thirteen years since as deponent can remember, and his widow Eleanor Hoople is still living and since the decease of her said husband has never been married, and further deponent saith not,
Sworn and subscribed before me at Osnaburgh this 16 day January 1854
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Jacob Brown
R H Bullock Esq Comm r Court of Queen's Bench for said Counties
Province of Canada
The united Counties of Stormont Dundas and Glengarry to wit:
I Jacob Frazar. Pringle of the Town of Glenora in the County of Stormont in the
said united Counties Esquire a notary Public by Royal authority duly commissioned for that part of the Province of Canada formerly called Upper Canada do hereby certify that Robert H Bullock before whom the foregoing testimony was taken sworn and whose name is subscribed thereto as a commissioner for the purpose of taking affidavits in the Court of Queen's Bench in the said united Counties was at the time of taking such testimony duly commissioned and authorized to take the same as such commi- ssioner as aforesaid.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal at Osnaburgh this twenty second day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred fifty four
J F Pringle Notary Public

Enlisted 12 th March 1777 for war
Mustered 5 th July 1777 Discharged 22 nd May 1780.

For the purpose of obtaining the benefit of an Act for the relief of certain surviving Officers and Soldiers of the Army of the Revolution" approved on the fifteenth of May 1828. I John Woople now of Madrid in the County of St Lawrence in the State of New York do hereby declare that I enlisted in the Continental line of the Army of the Revolution for and during the war, and continued in its service until its termination - at which period I was a musician in Captain Pearsons Company (having first enlisted and served in Captain Finks Company) in the first Battallion of the Regiment commanded by Col Van Schrick (the number of which I cannot recollect) of the New York line - And I also declare that, afterwards I suppose I received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars to which I was entitled under a resolve of Congress passed the 15 th of May 1778 - although I have no distinct recollection of receiving the same -
And I further declare that I was not on the fifteenth day of March 1828, on the Pension List of the United States -
John Woople

Before me George Redington a Justice of the Peace, duly empowered to administer oaths in the County of St Lawrence in the State of New York personally appeared, this day, Henry Runions and Phillip Runion now of said County, who did severally make oath that John Hoople by whom the foregoing declaration was subscribed is generally reputed and believed to have been a Musician in the army of the Revolution in manner as therein stated.
Witness my hand this fifth day of March in the year of our Lord Eighteen Hundred and Twenty nine -
Henry Runions Phillip his Runions Mark
Sworn before me this 5 th day of March 1829. Geo. Redington Justice Peace
I James S. Hopkins Clerk of the Court of the County of St Lawrence, in the State of New York do certify that George Redington before whom the foregoing Affidavits were sworn was at the time a Justice of the Peace and duly empowered to administer oaths -
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court this sixth day of March in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty nine -
J. S. Hopkins Clerk

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED 5202.
P. O. _____
Eleanor Hoople
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Apr 15, 1838
Eliza Hough widow of John Canada, Vt.
born 8 th Dec r 22 nd Nov r 1801
✓ 202
Rejected - Dec r 22 nd May 1780.
Adch 7 th July 1838.

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John Hoople - Musician New York line
New York
Madrid
Ref. File No 5,202
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Evidence insufficient Act 1828.

Washington, March 9. 1854
Dear S. P. Wells Bureau of Pensions
We herewith enclose the affidavits of Eleanor Hoople, widow of John Hoople, under Act of July 7 th 1838.
Very respectfully Ebenezer D. Hunt

Little Falls June 15. 1854
Dear Sir
I have just had your last letter dated 2 June 1854 it was not sent to the right post office if it had been sent to the Little Falls I would have had the same day it arrived
I have also had the last one before some time ago, dated Jan-7, 1854 but I did not answer it, I think your base is very clear to obtain the full Pension for yours. for I can qualify that I heard my Father say that John Roffell was his 44 during the Revolutionary War and could not say any other of the truth, and I think he was with my Father at the time at the taking of the Redoubt at Yorktown, Chesapeake and Montreal and also the Battle of Monmouth, then the Army was Consolidated Montgomery went to Quebec, he told me then for the first time he did familiarity to some words in his Father and Mother as then was appointed Major under Col. Willet to bring the Militia in order I always understood my Father that your Father was with him until the Army was Consolidated. I do not know as my Father to say that your Father was with him after he had been to some home but do not know when your Sister Sally was born the war was over with us, my Brother that is here now will qualify to the same throughout he also says that I think he saw your Father here good many years ago &c, your Mother's Pension must now be becoming of $1,000 I have concluded not to go up the Hudson as my Children do not wish me to give up the homestead without getting pay, according as I wish, it's the one

last and Only one that is left if the Musterroll goes to Washington it will never be returned Mr. O'Leary said not to give Mrs. Forbush Senior until he had my Musterroll in sent it to Washington and they never would give it up I see that Catherine Forbush is still on the roll in 1777 20 years for three years
This Musterroll my Father has sworn to be true and correct Nov 14. 1777
A Musterroll Roll of Capt. Andrew Smith Jr Company in the first Battalion of New York forces in the service of the United States Com- manded by Col. Goose Van Rensselaer.
Yours Friend, With Respect Andrew A Smith John Hootfield Esq
N. B. remember me in kind ways to Mr. Adam Reddick and all Friends of hope me very Sincerely yours &c A Smith
N. B. if it should be necessary and help the matter along I will write to Washington to my Attorney, J. B. Woodward, M c Govern South Senator M c Guire Mr. Hamilton Fish, Bishop our Parkers Member from this District are all Sincerely to me &c A Smith

REVOLUTIONARY CLAIMS.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
7 April 1829.
John Hoople of Madrid in the County of St Lawrence in the State of New York has applied to the Secretary of the Treasury for the benefits of the act, entitled "An Act for the relief of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the Revolution," approved the 15th of May, 1828. He states that he enlisted in the Continental line of the army of the Revolution, for and during the war, and continued until its termination, at which period he was a Musician in captain Fink 's company, in the first regiment of the New York line; and that he received a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars, provided by the resolve of the 15th of May, 1778; and further, that he was not on the 15th day of May, 1828, on the pension list of the United States, and that he has received as a pensioner since the 3d of March, 1826, nothing .
The Third Auditor is requested to report how far the several statements are corroborated by the records in his office.
By order of the Secretary T. Dickins.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
THIRD AUDITOR'S OFFICE,
13. April 1829.
It appears by the records in this office, that a certificate for the reward of eighty dollars has been issued to John Hoople in the first regiment of the New York line.
It further appears that John Hoople - not - is now on the pension list of any - not - agency, and has been so since the 3. March 1826. at the rate of  dollars per month.
The name of John Hoople cannot be found among those of the New York line to whom certificates for the gratuity of Eighty Dollars, were issued -
Richd H. Taylor

REVOLUTIONARY CLAIMS.
War Department: Bountyland Office
29 April 1829.
The records of this Office do not show that John Hoople of the New York line ever received or is entitled to bounty land of the United States.
Robert Taylor
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REVOLUTIONARY CLAIMS.
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Little Falls Nov-23-1859
Dear Sir
Some week ago I wrote you a letter, an Answer to your last I recd from you, dated 17 Oct-1859. Please write me an Answer and whether you have recd it & if I with you had found a Musterbook with your Father's Name on it by the muster roll that my Father belonged to the the first Battalion of Wright forces in the service of the United States, commanded by Col. George Van Schaick
Nov-21-1776 left Andrew's Creek for Halkenburg commenced Nov 21-1776 2nd Lt. Bartholomew Van Nov-21-1776 mustered Jacob J. Kloek
Like your Father John Koppel Enlisted July 5. 1777 as a Riflemen by the Musterroll -
I see by the Musterroll of my Father he was to it to be a true Befreyge acknowledged & did Van Valkenburgh
I cannot see that there can be much difficulty in obtaining your Mother's opinion I can swear that I heard my Father often say that John Koppel has his paper I shall the same just as it is in the Musterroll he told me he had served a number of years in his company but that man I could not exactly say. Some forty odd years I went to Canajoharie to see some of my Friends he then requested me to call on Mr. Koppel's Family I did call but cannot remember seeing your Father but your Sister Sally I will remember our

I'm Also In the mistake that the Name of Bartholomew Lockhart Stuart is In you I noticed the 20 Jan 1777 he has been dead long ago but through one of my Father Notes some 7 or 8 years ago his Widow M c Lockhart got her Pension the first she drew was having of Seven Hundred Dollars and she got part of her money after I have been on my own English
Respectfully Yours
John Northfield Esq. Andrew Lockhart
N.B. Write soon an Answer