Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 3430, Jacob Grammer, N.C.

SERVICE
NUMBER
N. b.
Grammer, Jacob. Gremmer or Grimmer
S 34 30
CONTENTS

19020 West Tennessee
Jacob Grammer
of Williamson Co. in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Stuart of the 2nd Regt. commanded by Col. — in the War of the Rebellion time for Twelve Months
Inscribed on the Roll of West Tennessee at the rate of 40 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 26 day of July 1823 and Sarah M c Service Franklin
Arrears to the 14th of March 80.00 Sem-ant. allowance ending Sept 1 20.00 100.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Dan Boyd Clerk,
Book 6 Vol. 7 Page 79
Certificate sent back for collection and returned to Thomas Service Franklin 28th Sept 1833

State of Tennessee } On this 6 th day of Sept 1832 Williamson County } personally appeared in open court before me Thomas Stuart presiding judge of the circuit court of Williamson County of law and equity State of Tennessee now sitting Jacob Gremmer a resident of Wil- iamson County Tennessee aged 77 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the ben- efit of the provisions of an act of Congress passed 7 th June 1832; that he entered the service of the Un- ited States under the following named officers & served as herein stated. I was residing in Pitt Coun- ty North Carolina when I first entered the service as a volunteer into Capt Stancil's company . We were marched from Pitt County in the time I do not recollect to Wilmington N Carolina where we rendezvoused and Gen Simpson commanding the North Carolina Militia took com- mand of us. Here we lay for further orders until my tour of three months for which I had volunteered, expired. I got a discharge signed by my Captain which is lost. I recollect none of the subordinate officers in this company but Ensign George Hostner. I then returned home to Pitt County where I stayed until my next tour. My next tour was a tour of six months which commenced on the 10 th of November 1779 I entered as a volunteer into Capt Cannons company Seth Stafford Lieutenant John Perry Ensign. We marched from Kingston where we had rendezvoused to the ten mile house in South Carolina, Gen Bryant taking command of us at Kingston. The col of the regi- ment to which Capt Cannon's company was attached was by the name of Smith. In our March to the ten mile house we joined Gen Ash with a body of troops. The troops with whom I served were called out for the purpose of protecting Charleston, but when we arrived at Charleston, it appeared that the British had turned their forces upon Augusta and Georgia Gen Lincoln then in the command of the

about then Army ordered Gen Ash and his troops to go to the support of Augusta. We then marched from Charleston to Savannah river which we crossed at Augusta. We then marched down the river to Bryan creek where we encamped. We soon after found that the bridge over that creek had been set on fire by the British, was burning and burnt down. Then the British came down upon our backs and compelled us to battle. We were defeated and completely routed. A few including myself under the lieutenant & ensign of Capt Cannon's company, retreated to Purysburgh where Gen Lincoln then lay with his army. We remained with him until my six months tour was out. During the time Gen Lincoln marched from Purysburgh to Black Swamp in South Carolina where I received my discharge on the 10th of May. 1780 signed by Gen Bryant I expect. I returned home when I returned until Gen Gates appointed to the command of the Southern Army marched towards Camden. There was two companies raised in Pitt county one of horse and the other of foot. I volunteered into the foot, commanded by Capt John Hodge. We marched from Pitt county about the 1 st of August 1780 towards Camden expecting to join Gen Gates, about that place. But he was defeated before we joined him. We then turned and went to Charlotte Mecklenburgh County N Carolina where the wounded that escaped at Gates' defeat had been sent. We staid here some time being joined by some of the company men, skirmishing with British. We then marched to the Pee Dee River, Island Ford 7 miles from Salsbury. Then my tour of three months expired and we marched home and I received a discharge signed by my capt, which I left in my father's desk in North Carolina. I was born in Pitt County North Carolina 1756 where I remained

until I came to this country in 1813 and settled in Davidson County Tennessee where I lived nearly two years; at the end of which time I moved to Williamson County where I have been living ever since and now live I have no other record of my age than that in my father's family Bible which I presume is in North Carolina I have no documentary evidence of my service except those stated which are lost. I know of no person in this country who can certify to my services as stated. I am acquainted with Robert B Foster Garner McClanahan. Thomas D Porter George Peay and Thomas Peay who can certify to my character as having been in the service during the revolution, and to my veracity &c. I hereby relinquish every claim whatever except the present to a pension or annuity and declare my name is not on the pension roll of any agency of any state. I was acquainted with Gen Lincoln Gen Ash. Gen Bryant, and Col Smith.
Sworn to in open court, 6 th Sept. 1832. P. Hayek
Jacob Gremmer mark
We Garner McClanahan and Thomas D Porter clergy men residents in Williamson county Tennessee and Robert B Foster, George Peay & Thomas Peay and Samuel Peay residents of the same county & state do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Jacob Gremmer who has described & sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be 77 years of age, that he is respected and believed in the

Neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution & that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to and subscribed in open court 8 th Augt. 1832. P. Hay Clerk
Garnet McCornick Thos B Foster Thos D. Porter Thos Peay
Sam Peay G Peay
12.319
And the said court does hereby declare his opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to him that Garnet McCornick, and Thomas B Foster, who have signed the preceding certificate and Thomas Peay and Samuel Peay and George Peay are also residents who have also signed the same are residents of the same county & state and are credible persons and that their statements are entitled to credit
Thos Stuart Judge SC
I Preston Hay Clerk of the circuit court of Williamson County in the state of Tennessee do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Jacob Grimmer for a pension In testimony whereof I hereunto set my hand and private seal, having as yet no seal of office this the day & year aforesaid
State of Tenn Williamson County, Set. I certify that to my knowledge, Preston Hay is Clerk of the Williamson Circuit Court and the foregoing signature is in his proper handwriting and that there is no seal of office provided. May 8 th 1833
Preston Hay Clerk Felix Grundy

CH. 19319.
Jacob Grahmann.
from private V o H 40.
Tennessee
Thos. C. Scame
27. Feb. 1833. Franklin

BRIEF in the case of Jacob Grammer.  of Williamson County in the State of Tennessee.  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a Court.  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 77 Years.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 17 not recd. list — 3. — private Gen. Francis, Gen. Simpson.   1779 — 6 — do Capt. Cannon. Gen. Bryant.   1780 — 3. — do Capt. John Hood.  
 5. In what battles was he engaged?  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Pitt County, North Carolina.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditional evidence.  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? No. 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
B. H. Pleasants Examining Clerk.

January 23, 1929
Mrs. C. Decker Tebo 12 E. Shadow Lawn Avenue Atlanta, Georgia
Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 3430, it appears that Jacob Grammer (pensioned Gremmer) was born in 1756 in Pitt County, North Carolina.
While residing in said county, he enlisted and served with the North Carolina Troops as follows:
Three months in Captain Stancel's Company, no dates given; from November 10, 1779, to May 10, 1780, in Captain Cannon's Company, Colonel Smith's Regiment and was in the battle of Brier Creek; from August, 1780, three months in Captain John Hodges' Company.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 6, 1832, at which time he was living in Williamson County, Tennessee.
There are no data as to family.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner.

Q. 3 S. 3430
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Jacob Grammer a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. rec. as J. Grammer
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     ✓ 3 mos Pvt. Stancel ✓ N.C.   ✓ Nov. 10. 1779 to May 10. 1780 Cannon Smitle   Aug. 1780 3 mos John Hodges ✓  
Battles engaged in, Brier Creek, Ga. Residence of soldier at enlistment, Pitt Co. N.C. Date of application for pension, Sept. 6-1832 His claim was allowed. Residence at date of application, Williamson Co. Tenn. Age at date of application, born 1756 in Pitt Co. N.C.
Remarks: There is no data in file as to family
This name was incorrectly spelt Grammer & Grimmer.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

Rev Sec
1100 Main Street, Franklin, Tennessee, Jan. 1 st - 1923.
Department of the Interior Bureau of Pensions;
I very much wish all the information you can give me of Jacob Grimmer , a Pensioner of this county - William- son, who was living here as late as 1832. The D. & A. R. and S. A. R. are marking all graves of Rev. Soldiers whose services are authenticated.

This grave 2 is known; and I have an obituary of him, stating he was a Rev. Soldier; but I do not know any more of his history.
Thanking you in advance, I am Yours sincerely,
Miss Lucie Gentry, Organizer of Old Glory Chapt. D. A. R.
P. S.
Granney Jacob Granney's name is of the Pension List of 1840.
Granney

12. E. Shadow Lawn Ave. Atlanta, Ga
April 9 th 1928.
Pension Dept.
"American Revolution"
Washington, D. C.
would like a copy of the record or pension of Jacob Grenner of N. C. - who died in Williamson Co. Tenn in 1833 - born 1755 - (age 78) also if you have a record of Capt Robert Grenner of Pitt Co. N. C. - who served under Col. Jno Tison - militia 1773 also Com Safety Pitt Co. 1775 - Col Record - N. C. - 9-696 - 10-61 - I am trying to complete a Grenner line (as my mother's father was Robert L. Grenner of Pitt Co. N. C.) for Patriot & Foredec. Thanking you for your attention of the above I am. Very Truly - Mrs. C. Skever Tebo, H. A. R. Registrar.

Jan'y - 29 - 1901 Miss. Susie Gentry Franklin Tenn
1923 Feb. 6 Hist. for Tombstone to Miss Susie Gentry awd.
1929 Jan. 23 - Hist. to Mrs. C. Decker Jebo awd.
Penman
3430 INVALID.
File No. 3430
Jacob Gremmer Port N.B. line
Act: June 1 st 1882
Index: — Vol. A , Page 149
[Arrangement of 1870.]

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims , of which these answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Jacob Grammer _____ which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? _____ IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? The Clerk certifies that he has no official seal. he has affixed his private seal; which has no inscription thereon. NO

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes. XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? — XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes. XIV. †If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? — If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? — Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? — XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? — XVI. ‡Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes. No XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes.
 EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For — year — months, and — days, I served as a — For — months and — days, I served as a —; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
‡QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Please deliver this to Mr C. A. Harris
C. A. Harris Esq.
Pension certificate Washington City Declaration D.C.
to be concurred
Greenlee 10 the room

Franklin Aug 31 st 1853
Dear Sir In calling upon you with regard to the enclosed pension claim of the Bruce I fear much I am draw-
ing; you having an outstanding debt to you by attending to several other cases to which I requested your attention and in which certificates have issued. I do not know that you got my letter but the certificates or some of them having issued soon after the time you must have received my letter, induces me to believe it was by your kind exertions they issued when they did I wrote to you in favor of Thos Blair, Betsy Ragsdale, Moses Lindsey, Robert Guthrie, Robert Auburn, Danl. Canten, Jacob Greenmer ( McMahon ) Daniel John Seerst, George Neely, Keneda Thos Ragsdale, and Thos Bond; all having obtained certificates, but the four last mentioned and Bonds claim was entirely rejected. I also enclose to you the certificate of Jacob Greenmer which spells his name with an a , instead of an e or an i as it ought to be. And in consequence of this mistake he cannot get his money at the agency of Gen. You will please correct it by the original papers for I have not doubt it is a clerical mistake, and I well recollect of having written his name with an e or e in his declaration when I drew it. If however it is a in the original papers you will then do what is best. Perhaps in that case he will have to identify himself with the original papers satisfactorily before they will correct the matter. If Leayle gets a certificate please enclose it to me. Also Greenmer's certificate when received. Yours respectfully
Thos M Siorra