Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 17226, Ithamar Hubbel, New York

SERVICE
New York
Hubbel, Ithamar
NUMBER
S. 17226
CONTENTS
carded

7720. Missouri Nathan Hubbell
Capt. Girardeau the State of Missouri who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Harrison. of the Regt commanded by Col. M'Kinster. in the Battle of New York for seventeen months.
Inscribed on the Roll of Missouri at the rate of 56. Dollars 66. Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 23 rd day of March 1833. and sent to Clerk of Cape Girardeau Co. Missouri.
  Arrears to the 4th of March 33  113.30    Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 th Sept r 1833.  28.30     $141.60  
{ Revolutionary Claim Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by W. H. Palmer Clerk Book 8. Vol. 8 Page 82

adm for 17. Months from 1780. — $ 56. 66.

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BRIEF in the case of  Thomas Hubbel  County of Cape Girardeau in the State of  Missouri  (Act 7th June, 1839.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? County Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 70 years —  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1779 — — 9 — — As a Private Spys Gen. Schuyler — Capt. Sam c Harrison Co l { Vol o Col l M c Kinstry Reg t Capt. Chipman — Mil 2 Vol o 8 o   1780 — — 8 — — Private Capt. Gray — Co l 8 o  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none stated —  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? not stated  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? only the traditional evidence of two witnesses — one a clergyman — Certificate to be credible  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? not attached according to the regulations 
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
E. Stephens
Examining Clerk.

Copy Record
Sthamar Huttail
Applicant for a pension
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Proceedings in the County Court for the County of Cape Girardeau in the State of Missouri, Of the term Of September, in the year Of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and thirty two; Before George Henderson and Samuel B. McKnight, Esqrs Justices thereof
On Wednesday the third day of the term, and the nineteenth day Of September, aforesaid the Coun- ty Court met at nine O'clock in the morning per- suant to adjournment, presence
George Henderson and Samuel B. McKnight, Esqrs } Justices.
State Of Missouri } In the County court of County of Cape Girardeau } the County of Cape Gir- } ardeau in the State of Mis- } souri, term of September year 1832
On this nineteenth day Of September, year eight- teen hundred and thirty two; Personally appeared in Open court, before the Judges thereof, in the afore- said County court, now sitting Nathan Hubble Of the aforesaid County Of Cape Girardeau State aforesaid aged about seventy years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth On his Oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit Of the act Of Congress passed June 7 th 1832 That he was born in the State Of Connecticut and raised in the County Of Albany State of New York. That about the age of seventeen in the year Seventeen hundred and seventy nine , he Volunteered to supply a militia draft, as called for a draft, made On the militia of that County for nine months, and was first mus- tered into service, at Fort Edward, in the Company company commanded by Captain Samuel Garrison

2 in a Regiment or Battalion under the command of Colonel M c Kinster; The General Officer Commanding, in that department or part of the coun- try was General Schuyler; he first marched with the Company and Regiment from Fort Edward to Fort Anne and back again; Marched again with the Company for Fort Stanwix, but at Skeneate- les On the Mohawk was taken sick with the Smallpox, and was sent back to Fort Edward, and attached to a Company of regular troops of three Years men, commanded by Captain John Chipman who then had the Command of the fort, and served out the balance of his time of nine months, as a Spy in said Company, and was then discharged by the said Captain Chipman. On the next 2 nd being seventeen hundred eighty for the further purpose of supplying another call for a draft made On the militia of said County of Albany for Eight months Said Ithamar again Volunteered for said eight months, and was mustered into Service at Saratoga, a place called Saratoga fort in a company Commanded by Captain Gray, and served out said eight months at that place in said Company, Stationed at that place as General Schuyler's guard; on the expiration of which time he was discharged by said Captain Gray; That not then believing that said discharge would be of much consequence, they loosed out of his possession, and can not now be found; That said Ithamar removed to this Country with two brothers and one sister in the year, seventeen hundred ninety seven, all of which are now dead,

and said, Ithamer, from the great distance he now lives from the place of his youthful residence and of those who knew him when the aforesaid services were performed, says that he knows of no one who from their own knowledge, could testify to the performance of said services, nor has Ithamer any documentary evidence to establish the said facts of (revolutionary services); The said Ithamer hereby relinquishes every claim whatever, to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state
And to the interrogatories presented by the war department, put by the court, the said Ithamer Hubble answers and says as follows
1 I was born in Newtown State of Con- necticut, in the year seventeen hundred sixty two, 2nd I have my age put down in my bible at my house, about eight miles from this place, I had it set down by the school master, accor- ding to the information given me by my father. 3rd And I belonged to the militia which were classed, and there was a call for a draft to be made out of the class to which I belonged, and on that call I volunteered, on both calls, first for nine months on the second for eight months, each class of ten men, furnished one man to go. 4th And I was acquainted with Captain John Chis- man a regular Officer Commanding a company of three years men on the first tour, likewise General Schuyler, who had the command of the

northern troops, and 4 On the second tour, the same General, On the first tour the only Regiment in the Service I know was that of Colonel McKinstry mentioned with whom I served in the militia, and Captain Chipman Company of three years men regulars the Only regular troops I served with on the first tour, and On the second tour Captain Gray's Compa- ny of militia with whom I served at Saratoga, on the second tour as mentioned was the only body of troops I served with On the second tour:
5th After serving the first tour of nine months I was discharged by Captain Chipman before men- tioned; After serving the second tour of eight months under Captain Gray, I was discharged by Captain Gray at Saratoga, both of which were honorably, I did not consider they would be of any service and after a while they the discharge were lost
And 7 I am known by Col. G. F. Pillsbury and by the Reverend Benjamin Thompson resi- ding near me, who can testify as to my character for Veracity, and their belief of my service as a Soldier of the revolution; I am likewise ac- quainted with the Honorable Alexander Buchanan Senator, Honorable John D. Cook Judge of this Circuit; Franklin Cannon Esq. Senator from this County and George Henderson Esq. one of the Justices of this Court, together with a great many others of my fellow Citizens with whom I have long resided; I believe can testify as to my char- acter for Veracity.
Sworn and subscribed in Open Court September 19 th 1832 Benjamin Bacon Deputy Clerk Ichamancy his Knubbel (mark)

We Benjamin Thompson a clergyman residing in the aforesaid County of Cape Girardeau, and George F. Bollinger of the same County, hereby certify, We are well acquainted with Ithamar Wubbel Who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; That We believe him to be seventy years of age, that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a Soldier of the revolution, and that We concur in their Opinion Sworn and subscribed in Open court Sept 19 th A D 1832 Benjamin Thompson George F. Bollinger
Benj. Bacon L. Clerk
Filed September 19 th 1832
Benjamin Bacon L. Clerk
On application of Ithamar Wubbel for a pension for revolutionary Service { Declaration and certificate On Oath filed
And now at this day comes the said Ithamar Wubbel, and makes his declaration in writing on oath, in Open Court, together with the Certificate annexed, sworn to as prescribed; And the said Court, do hereby declare their Opinion, after the investigation of the matter; declaration certificate annexed, together with Witnesses produced, and After putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department, that the above named applicant Ithamar Wubbel, Was a revolutionary Soldier, and

Served as he states; 6 And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that Benjamin Thompson who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman resident in this County, and that George F. Bollinger who has also signed the same is a resident of the same County and is a Credible person, and that their statement is entitled to Credit; And it is ordered by the Court that the said declaration, and Certificate mentioned as sworn to be filed as of the record of this Court, and a copy thereof and of the proceedings herein, properly certified, be furnished said Nathan Hubbell for the information of the War department.
State of Missouri County of Cape Girardeau I Peter R. Garrett Clerk of the County Court within and for the County of Cape Girardeau in the State of Missouri Do certify that the foregoing pages marked from 1 to 6, comprise a full true and perfect copy of the record of the declaration Certificate and Raths, on the application of Nathan Hubbell for a pension for revolutionary service, together with the copy of the record of the proceedings of said court therein, as fully as the same appears of record before
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In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and official seal this twenty fifth day of September Eighteen hundred and thirty two
Peter R. Garrett Clerk
By his Deputy Benjamin Bacon

State of Missouri County of Cape Girardeau } ss
I George Henderson presiding Justice Of the County court, for the County of Cape Girar- deau aforesaid do hereby certify that Benjamin Paxon, whose name is subscribed to the foregoing cer- tificate as Deputy Clerk for Peter R. Hammett, Clerk of said Court, is and was at the time of making said certificate Deputy Clerk for Peter R. Hammett, Clerk of the said County court, of said County, that his acts that his acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit; and that the said certificate and attestation thereof is in due form of law. Given under my hand and seal this 27 th day of September, A.D. 1832.
George Henderson

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17226
INVALID.
File No. 17,226
Thamar Knibb
Pri Rev War
Act: June 7 th 82
Index:—Vol. 1 ; Page 436
[Arrangement of 1870.]

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BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Stamar Anibel which require further proof or explanation.
 I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides?  II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides?  III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?  IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served?  V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled?  VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations?  VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832?  VIII. Has the Court given their opinion?  IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate?  X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? 
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
QUESTION V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, or infirmity of age, or any other cause, give a precise answer to the question as to the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, it is the duty of the Clerk to give a certificate stating the facts of his service, and the length of time he served in each grade, so far as he can remember, or as far as the records of the department will permit him to do so.
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XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service ?
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it ?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had ? no
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? none
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service ?
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct ?
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily ? And, if not, which of them is not so answered ?
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension.

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
☞ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.