Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 21,234, Joseph Grimes, Conn.

SERVICE
Conn.
Grimes, Joseph Jemima
NUMBER
W. 21. 234.
CONTENTS
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Connecticut 1094
Jemima Grimes
widow of Joseph Grimes
Conn.
who died on the 9. Dec r 1797
of Hartford Co. in the State of Connecticut
who was a Private in the company commanded
by Captain Pettibone of the
by in the
time for 10 months & 14 days
Inscribed on the Roll of Connecticut
at the rate of 34 Dollars 87 Cents per annum,
to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 29 th day of June 1837 and sent to E. Phelps Esq. Simsbury, Conn.
Arrears to the 4th of March '37, 209.22 Pension, allowance ending 12 Sep. " 17.43
$226.65
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act July 4, 1836, Section the 3 — }
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk, Book A. Vol. 1 — Page 78

No V 596
Jerima Grimes 3. Sec. Connecticut
7 mo. 1407 in 75
Allow that I must of have been

State of Connecticut } Probate District of Hartford } of Hartford
On this 9 th day of November A.D. 1836 personally appeared before the Probate Court for the District of Hartford Jemima Grimes a resident of Hartford in the County and Probate District of Hartford and State of Connecticut aged eighty one years who first being duly sworn according to Law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 4 th A.D. 1836
That she is the widow of Joseph Grimes formerly junior who was a private soldier in the revolutionary war. — That the said Joseph Grimes served in A.D. 1775 at Roxbury between seven and eight months under Capt. Abel Pettibone. — That the said Joseph Grimes served in the year 1777 in Capt. Eliphalet Carty's company at the at the capture of Burgoyne & his army at Saratoga and she supposes that at the time he served there months — and that the said Joseph Grimes served in a Regiment of Artillery commanded by Major Elisha Painter for the period of thirteen months commencing in January A.D. 1778 and ending February A.D. 1779
She further declares that she was married to the said Joseph Grimes on the 5 th day of September A.D. 1771 that her husband

The aforesaid Joseph Barnes died on the 9 th day of December A. 1797 and that she has since been a widow ever since that period as well more fully appears by refer- ence to the proof hereto annexed. Before me and subscribed on the day and year above written before me the subscribed Judges of the Probate Court for the District of Hartford.
her Emma Barnes Mark
I swear to and subscribe on the 9 th day and year of November A. 1836 before me the subscribed judge of the Probate Court for the District of Hartford and I hereby certify that the affiant is a person of credibility In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of said Court & subscribed my name Thomas H. Seymour Judge.

"Joseph Griswold Jan and Jerimiah Storer both of Simsbury were joined in marriage the 5th day of September 1771. (Per J. Owen)"
The above is a true copy from Simsbury town records
Attest Moses Ensign Town Clerk Simsbury October 31 st 1836

7 20 The Ensign Antipasto 19 January

Comptrollers Office Hartford Conn - Nov 1 - 1826
William Field Comptroller of Public Accounts of the State of Connecticut do hereby certify that it appears that by an authenticated copy of the pay roll of the 7 th Company of the 2 nd Reg t - raised in the Colony of Connecticut per order of the General Assembly May 1775 that Joseph Grimes served therein as a private from the 4 th day of May to the 18 th day of December 1775 being seven months and fourteen days, and that said company was commanded by Capt. Abel Pitbore.
That I have not discovered any roll or account of a regiment of Artificers commanded by Major Elisha Dauter in the years 1778 or 1779 or thereafter afterwards.
And that under date August 27 th 1777 there is charged on the books of the Pay Table to Capt. Eliphalet Burles, in "To order on Treasurer as advance pay of 20 s each his company militia started ordered to join the Northern Army & ret d - £50,000, and that no roll of this company has been found or evidence of the discharge of their service.
W illiam Field Comptroller

Connecticut Hartford County ss Hartford this 9 th day of November A D 1836
Personally appeared before me Thomas H. Seymour Esq d Judge of the Court of Probate for the district of Hartford, Jemima Woodbridge, a resident in said district, who being duly sworn, testifies and says, that she is the daughter of Jemima Grimes who is the widow and relict of Joseph Grimes formerly Joseph Grimes J d of Simsbury in Hartford County, that her father Joseph Grimes died in the year 1797 according to her best belief and recollection that her mother aforesaid has ever since remained a widow and that she very believes from the papers she has seen and which accompany her mother's application for a pension, that her father served in the revolutionary war as therein set forth.
Jemima Woodbridge
I, Thos. H. Seymour Judge of said Court of Probate hereby certify that the subscriber to the above affidavit affidavit is a person of credibility, sworn to & subscribed the day & year above written
Before me
Thos H. Seymour Judge.

1st of Timothy 2 Chapter

Simsbury Febr y 8 th 1779
These may Certify when it may concern that I have this Day Rec d of m c Joseph Grimes fifty Dollars for the Burgess of Housatonic a.m. are his Dollars and he is accordingly Discharged
Grimes, Joseph Conn W 21234
Theo. Phelps L t Col.

february the 22 Day AD 1779
then I received of Joseph Grimes the sum of three pound thirteen shillings which is the full sum of the bounty or premium which I paid to him for enlisting himself into the Regiment Artificers commanded by Maj r Elisha Painter on the 19 th Day of January 1778 I say received by me Thos. Phelps L t Col t
Grimes, Joseph Conn W 21234

Simsbury Febr 8 th 1779
This may Certify whom it may Concern that Mr Joseph Grimes is at Liberty to Engage with any man for any length of time Provided he Mr Grimes shall furnish me with money to Pay a hired man in his Roome for and if the above is Complied with I Engage to Deliver up his Enlistment this Day P s me Thos Phelps
Grimes, Joseph Conn W 21234

Grimes, Joseph Conn W 21234

Phelps Thoma. Supt. 24 July 77 absent no leave June 79.
See roll of Archives —

Gen Gen Gen Gen
Grimes, Joseph Conn W31 234

Rev
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 21234
Jemima Primes Widow of Joseph Primes Pris. Nov. 1861
Act: July 4 th 86
Index:—Vol. 88 , Page 291
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Nov 15
Ct. 4 July '36 32 Sec.
Hon. James L. Edwards Commissaire of Pensions Washington D. C.

Hartford Nov 11 th 1831
Sir
Enclosed is the application of Mrs. Fanny Faines for a pension with the testimony in support thereof
Yours respectfully E. Phelps

Emma Groomes at 4 July 36 3 rd ter.
Send cut: to E. Phelps, E. Louisburg Kan.
10 ms. 14 d. Pirate $34.98 per an

for crimes
77. Curly
78. Artificer.
Roger Riley Capt. Comd. Militia

Jemima Grimes Connecticut
Suspended
let 24 Nov

Dec. 6.
J. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington D. C.
Conr
Jemima Greene Or to Mrs. 36

Hartford Ct Dec r 1 st 1830
Sir
Yours of the 24 th ult has been received requiring the Town Clerk of Simsbury to make his affidavit "showing the period of marriage of the claimant Jemima Prine for a pension. You perhaps are not informed that the town clerks in this State are required by law to take an oath of office; and their certificates of their records are received without any other oath in all Courts of the State & the Courts of the United States. If I should ask him for his affidavit, I presume he would refuse to give it, for the reason that it is already verified by his oath of office.
John Owen by whom the marriage was recorded more than fifty years ago. He was, as the records of that town show, the town clerk. I saw the record of which a copy was transmitted. It is in chronological order, among the register of marriages, & in the hand writing of John Owen, as I verily believe. He was for several years Judge of Probate for Simsbury District. After his death my Father succeeded him. I was when young a Clerk of that Court. The hand writing of Judge Owen often appeared, as I was then informed, on the records & files. The record of the above marriage is in the same hand as was then shown to me as his.

I am personally acquainted with Mr. Onsign & know that he keeps the records of the town. That I have carried seeds to him for nearly 20 years several times been present at the town meetings where he was declared to be chosen town clerk & have administered the oath of office to him. I was not present at the town meeting of 1835 & therefore do not know that he was then chosen clerk, but I do know, that he has acted as such, the last year & now does, & is reported to have been duly chosen.
As I regard the service of Josiah Grimes in Capt. Bartle's company, there is no person known to the officer, I believe, by whom she can prove the service. She has sworn according to her best knowledge & belief. That Capt. Bartle was in service there is no doubt. I know him but he has been dead many years. If you cannot allow but two months for that loan of duty the poor, very poor, old lady must be satisfied.
I know her well. She used to live in Simsbury, where I reside, but now lives with her daughter here.
There is no way by which I can compel the town clerk to verify his certificate by oath.
I am y rs Le B. Phelps

Simsbury June 19 th
Free
23 June E Phelps Esq Mrs Garrison Cane
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J. S. Edwards Esq Washington D.C.

Sir
Simsbury Conn. 10 th June 1857-
Yours of the 13 th instant, in answer to mine of the 7 th has been received; in which you say "In my letter to you of the 2 nd inst. I stated that the same of Mrs. Lemina Grimes might be allowed on account of her husband's service for seven months as an Ensign and two months and fourteen days as a Sergeant, not for ten months and 14 days as quoted in your letter of the 7 th inst. If she will accept a pension for that service, a certificate will be issued & sent to you. I again quote from your note of the 2 nd inst, which is before me, in which you say "that Mrs. Grimes may be allowed for ten months and 14 days as a private etc. As her agent, if a certificate must issue agreeably to yours of the 2 nd or 13 th , I should prefer the latter. I think some mistake has intervened."
In your note of the 13 th you say nothing in regard to the claim that Mrs. Grimes served in the corps of Engineers. In your note of the 2 nd you admit, that Thomas Phelps belonged to this corps - that these two points are fully established that Mrs. Grimes did enter into that corps returned the bounty & fifty dollars to the Secy. for the purpose of hiring a substitute, & the possession of S t Phelps' receipt is evidence that the substitute was hired. The question then is how long had he been enlisted before his discharge? Upon this question there is not even a conjecture made; Mrs. Grimes swears that her husband enlisted and served in this corps, if I do not misremember, about thirteen months. I locate two certificates of S t Phelps were annexed to her application. The first I believe states where

he enlisted and the latter is his discharge. Now, I think the two certificates of S t Phelps, prove the time of Mr Grenes enlistment and discharge. You admit, that the enlistment and discharge are proved. If the documents of S t Phelps, as I believe they do, state the time of the enlistment and discharge, the intervening period is the time for which we claim a pension. Mrs Grenes swears that her husband served as an artificer, during this intermediate period. It is believed, that the artificers did not always serve in a body, but were ordered from one place to another as the exigency of the army required. Sometimes in erecting forts - barracks - artillery carriages, hauling carriages, carts & wagons used by the existing teams etc. It is altogether probable that at least one artificer, would accompany a brigade of teams as they were then called & which, I think, consisted of ten teams & their conductor. I know nothing personally of any such arrangement, but from what I have often heard, I believe it was so. I suggest this as a reason why the name of Mr Grenes does not appear on the pay roll, if such be the fact. He might have been absent when the rest of the corps received their pay - he might not have received his pay, for contested & state bills were hardly worth recovery, if any considerable travel was requisite - he might have received pay from the Commissariat or Quartermaster's department which might have been & adjusted with their accounts. On this point can a reasonable doubt exist? The widow swears to the service of her husband - her testimony is corroborated by original documents proving the times of his enlistment and discharge. When I saw her affidavit I believed the evidence would be satisfactory. I am very respectfully Cyprus A. Phelps

Free
Simsbury Ct May 9 th
June 13
James M. Smith
J. S. Edwards Esq Comm r of Pensions Washington D.C.
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Simsbury 7 June 1837.
Sir
Your note, of the 2 nd inst., regarding Jennie A. Grimes' application for a pension, has been received. You say that she "may be allowed for 10 months & 14 days. I infer from this computation of time, that nothing has been allowed for her husband's service as an artificer. You observe "The question there is, how long had he been enlisted before his discharge? If I do not misremember, a certificate of S t Phelps states the time of Grimes' enlistment & time of his discharge, being an interval of about 13 months. She is a hard worker, her case is in your hands; & if you cannot conscientiously allow her for more than 10 months & 14 days, without having seen her, I have concluded to request for her a certificate for that period, supposing that she can at a future time, resume her claim for this service without forfeiting impairing her rights. —
I am very respectfully Yr. obedt. servt.

M. Enseigne certificate de J. Grimes marriage
adolph

Joseph Grimes Jr. and Joanna Townsend both of Simsbury, were joined in marriage the 5th day of September 1771 (for J. Brant) The above is a true copy from Simsbury town records book 4th of town acts page 220. examined by me Moses Ensign Town Clerk
Connecticut, Hartford County, ss Simsbury December 12 th 1836
On this day personally appeared Moses Ensign Esq d of Simsbury aforesaid and being sworn, made solemn oath to the truth of the foregoing certificate and also, that the record of said marriage is in the hand writing of John Brown Esq d formerly Clerk of said town, according to his best knowledge and belief, who said before his retirescence
Ebenezer Phelps Justice of Peace
I certify that Moses Ensign Esq d who signed the above certificate of record is the acting Town Clerk of the town of Simsbury, is reputed to have been chosen for the current year, not being the town meeting when I believe he was chosen, I cannot certify to that fact from personal knowledge
Ebenezer Phelps Justice of Peace