Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4351, Peter W Groesbeck, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Groesbeck, Peter H. Alida
R, 4351
CONTENTS

V 1812
In the matter of the application of Alida Widow of Peter the Groenbeck for a Pension under the acts of July 4. 1836.
4351

State of New York Albany County } ss:
On the twenty second day of April in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty seven, personally appeared before the Justice Court of the City of Albany (the same being a Court of Record) Alida Groesbeck of the City of Albany in the County and State aforesaid, aged Seventy nine years and upwards, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on her oath make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed July 4 th 1836 - That she is the widow of Peter W. Groesbeck late of said City of Albany - She further declares that she was married to the said Peter W. Groesbeck on the Fourth day of July in the year one thousand eight hundred and seventy nine; that her husband the aforesaid Peter W. Groesbeck died on the Sixth day of October in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty one.
July 4 th 1839
and that she has remained a widow ever since that period, as will more fully appear by reference to the proof hereto annexed - She further states that soon after her marriage, her said husband was ordered with a company of Militia to which he belonged, to Fort Hunter; that he went out with said Company as a Militia soldier under Captain Jacob Lansing, and was absent for a considerable period of time but how long precisely she can not now say - And she further says that during the remaining period of the war - then subsequent to this service, her said husband was out at frequent periods and to different parts of the State - and that in consequence of the infirmities of old age, she cannot write her name -
Alida her Groesbeck mark
Subscribed & sworn to in Open Court this 22 d day of April 1839

I do hereby Certify, that by the Record of Marriages of the Ref d Protestant Dutch Church of the City of Albany it ap- =pears that Pieter W. Groesbeck & Alida V. Harnain were united in lawful Mar- =riage the 4 th day of July 1779.-
Albany } Tho s Wermelijn March 29. 1837 } Pastor of the Ref d Prot. Dutch Ch. City of Albany.

State of New York
Albany County. ss: Leclaire Sickles being duly sworn says that he is a resident of the City of Albany, and has resided there ever since the age of thirteen. That he was eighty six years of age on the fifteenth day of November last. That this Deponent was well acquainted with Peter Groesbeck from a Boy, some years previous to the Revolutionary war. That said Groesbeck died several years ago in the City of Albany. That this Deponent and the said Peter Groesbeck were drafted to go to Schobane, the year previous to the capture of Burgoyne in an Albany Regiment of the New York State Militia, that they were engaged in this service for six weeks at the expiration of which time the Regiment returned to Albany. That the said Groesbeck served out the above mentioned period and returned with the Regiment to Albany. That the said Regiment was commanded by General Peter Gansevoort, that the Captain commanding the Company to which the  Deponent belonged was Gerit Groesbeck ; that Peter Groesbeck was in a different company from this deponent, but this Deponent cannot distinctly recollect who was the Captain commanding the Company to which the said Groesbeck belonged. That a short time after their return from Schobane, their Regiment was ordered to Fort Hunter, where they continued for about three weeks, that this Deponent saw the said Peter Groesbeck there during the whole period the Regiment remained at that place. This Deponent and said Peter Groesbeck belonged to different Companies in the said Regiment while at Fort Hunter, but this Deponent saw him almost daily with his Company doing the duties of a soldier, that Genl. Peter Gansevoort commanded at the above place, that the portion of the Regiment to which this Deponent and said Peter Groesbeck were attached after returning from Fort Hunter to Albany, were in a few days thereafter
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used to Lake George; where this Deponent and the said Peter Groesbeck were again out with their Regiment and continued doing military duty for some weeks, the precise period the Deponent does not distinctly recollect - That after the return of the Regiment from Lake George, this Deponent was ordered to several other places in the State of New York, but he has no recollection of the said Peter Groesbeck being upon any service with him except at the three places and times above particularly mentioned - This Deponent further says that he is well acquainted with the widow of said Peter Groesbeck, and has known her for a great many years, at least forty or fifty years - that they lived together as husband and wife all that period to the time of his death - that she now continues the widow of said Peter Groesbeck, and has never been married again since the death of the said Peter Groesbeck - And further this Deponent says not -
I know to subscribe this } 12 th day of April 1837 before me
Zacharias Sikeles
L. Jen Kins Court of Pleas
Affidavit of Zacharias Sikeles
I certify that the above named Deponent is a credible Witness - L. Jen Kins Court of Pleas

State of New York
Albany County ss: Abraham Vorburgh of the City of Albany being duly sworn says that the City of Albany has always been his place of residence - That on the fourteenth day of April instant (1837) he will be eighty years of age - That he was well acquainted with Peter Groesbeck late of Albany deceased, and knew him from a Boy - That he died in Albany about six or seven years since - That his first service was at Lake George, where this Deponent and the said Peter Groesbeck were in the New York Militia service, in the same Company; that the name of their Captain was Jacob Lansing, and that the General commanding at that time and place was Peter Gansevoort - That their period of service at Lake George was six weeks or more and that the said Peter Groesbeck served out his full term of service and returned to Albany with the rest of the Company when their time was out - That this Deponent and the said Peter Groesbeck were also with their Company at Fort Hunter; that their Company was there in one Summer at Fort Hunter, and that the period of service at both those times was about three months; that the said Peter Groesbeck was out each time and served out his full period of service, with the Company to which he and this Deponent belonged - Major Fonda commanded at Fort Hunter, and Captain Jacob Lansing was their Captain; that this Deponent and said Peter Groesbeck were out twice in Schoharie under the same Captain, and that the time of service of the two expedi- -tions to Schoharie was about two months, that the Colonel at Schoharie was Colonel Wendell, but this Deponent does not remember his Christian name; that this Deponent and the said Peter Groesbeck

2 - about a month; from Fort Plain they were ordered to Bownans Creek at which place they remained about a month, and that each at each of the before mentioned places the Deponent and the said Peter Greesbeck served out their full term of service with the Company to which they belonged -
This Deponent further says that he does not distinctly recollect the time when the above services were rendered, but they were rendered during two or three summers of the Revolutionary war - and that never having learned to write he makes a cross for his signature -
I have subscribed, (by making his mark) this 12 th day of April 1837
Abraham his Vosburgh mark
J. Van Rins Com t of Deeds
I certify that the above named Deponent is a credible witness. J. Van Rins Com t of Deeds -
Affidavit of - Abraham Vosburgh -
State of New York, Albany County -
ss: I bound A. Ten Eyck clerk of the said County do hereby certify that Samuel Ten Eyck Esq. before whom the two proceedings Affidavits purport to have been sworn and by whom the certificates of credibility were certified was on the day of the date of the same a Commissioner of Deeds in and for the said County and that his name subscribed to each are his proper hand writing and signature -
Given under my hand and the seal of the said County this 13 th day of April 1837 -
Albany County ss: The above Deponent being again duly sworn further saith that the said Peter Greesbeck was married and had one child at the time when he and this Deponent were in service together up the Mohawk at Bownans Creek, and recollects of having heard him speak of his wife and child at that time -
C. A. Ten Eyck Clerk
I have subscribed this 22 nd day of April 1837 J. Van Rins Com t of Deeds
Abraham his Vosburgh mark

VETERANS ADMINISTRATION
WASHINGTON
February 9, 1932
DA-5/121
Honorable Lloyd Thurston House of Representatives Washington, D.C.
My dear Mr. Thurston:
Reference is made to your letter of February 2, 1932, with letter attached of Mrs. Louise Groesbeck Morin, of Afton, Iowa, in which she requests the Revolutionary War record of her ancestor with surname Groesbeck.
It is noted that Mrs. Morin designates no particular soldier as the ancestor in whom she is interested. This office has no general genealogical data on file as a means of tracing ancestry.
The records have been searched under the various names which appear in her letter, Louis, Lewis, Jacob, Nicholas, Claas, Anthony, Gilbert, Syburt, Herman, William, Cornelius, David, John, and no claim for pension found based upon service of a Groesbeck with any of these given names. A further search shows no claim for pension on file on account of service in the Revolutionary War of a Captain Garret Groesbeck.
The record of the only Peter Groesbeck (or other spelling of that surname) which has been found is as follows:
The data contained herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, R-4351, based upon the military service of Peter W. Groesbeck in that war.
Peter W. Groesbeck married July 4, 1779, Alida V. Assenain or Assenon. Their marriage was recorded on the records of the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church, of Albany, New York.
He died October 6, 1831, in Albany, New York.
On April 22, 1837, soldier's widow, Alida, then aged seventy-nine years "and upwards", and a resident of Albany, New York, applied

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
for the pension that might have been due on account of the services of her husband, Peter V. Groesbeck, and alleged that her husband enlisted after their marriage and served under Captain Jacob Lansing, place of enlistment and length of service not shown, and that during the remainder of the Revolutionary War, he was frequently called out on various tours, but gave no details of these services; it was also stated that he enlisted "year previous to the capture of Burgoyne", and served at various times under Captain Jacob Lansing, Major Fonda, Colonels Peter Gansevoort, Wendell and Jacob Lansing, exact length of service not shown.
Her claim was not allowed as she failed to furnish proof of six months service as was required by the pension laws.
A child is referred to as living during the Revolution, no name is given and there are no further data as to family.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Peter W. Groesbeck a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. R 4361.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     1776 ✓ Col. Jacob Lansing Peter Gansevoort N.Y.                                                   
Battles engaged in, None stated Residence of soldier at enlistment, Not stated Date of application for pension, Apr 22, 1837. Residence at date of application, Albany, Albany Co. N.Y. Age at date of application, 79 years.
Remarks: Peter W. Groesbeck married July 4, 1779 at Albany N.Y. Alida T. Groesbeck, his wife in Albany Oct 6, 1831. The claim was never allowed; claimant failed to furnish proof of six months' service required by the pension law.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
4351
P. O.
Hilda Groesbeck
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Printed list of 1835 shows cause of re-enlistment
Application filed: _____, 18
"He did not serve six months"
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

1915 March 31. Obituary to Mrs. S. W. Heartfield M.B.H. 1932 - Feb 9 - " " John Lloyd Sheraton - for Mrs. L. G. Storm E.H.

LLOYD THURSTON 8TH DISTRICT IOWA
COMMITTEES:
RULES INTERNAL AFFAIRS COINAGE, WEIGHTS, AND MEASURES CIVIL SERVICE CENSUS
Congress of the United States House of Representatives
Washington, D. C.
February 2, 1952.
Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
Mrs. Louise Groesbeck Morin of Afton, Iowa, a constituent of mine, has sent me the enclosed letter making inquiry as to whether a soldier by the name of 'Groesbeck' rendered service during the Revolution period, so if you can furnish me any information in this respect, together with a list of the heirs of such soldier, I will appreciate the courtesy.
Please return the letter as I will have further use for the same.
Yours very truly,
Lloyd Thurston Lloyd Thurston.

271 Rutland Road Brooklyn Mch 22-1915
Dept of the Interior Bureau of Pensions.
Dear Sir -
Can you furnish me with the military service of Peter W. Groesbeck 3 rd Albany N. Y. militia . Said information is desired to prove eligibility of undersigned for membership in D. R. G.

State of New York. Any fee for this information will be forwarded, if notified
Yours truly Kate Carter Hartfield (Mrs. J.W.)

M m B Pierce
April 29. 1843

Jun 5th age. 29 H3
Sir
In answer to your enquiry respecting the case of Alida Groesbeck I would refer you to the enclosed copy of my letter of 16 May 1840 to her att o Samuel Jenkins Esq.
Wm D Pierce Esq. Albany N.Y.

2 Gen Runs
15 May 1840
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242 Pension Office 16. May 1840
Sir The additional evidence in the case of Mrs Alicia Groesbeck widow of Peter Groesbeck viz the Certificate of the Comptroller of New York furnishes no evidence of the service of the claimants here bound up for about twenty four years viz in Capt Luning company & Capt Ostrum — The other payments of the same  to a sum of the same to have been made to a soldier residing in  the different parts of the state. — The Statement  affidavits of Frederick Dampfh is indefinite as to dates and officers — a part of that which  service he has undertaken to describe is that proved by the Comptrollers Certificate — This claim cannot be allowed upon the proof on file
General Jenkins Esq Albany N.Y.

M. J. Bovee, January 30, 1870.
O. C.

War Dep
442.
Gen: H
Jany 30, '40
Sir
In relation to your request to forward you a copy of the correspondence in the case of Mrs Alida Groesbeck I regret that a sense of duty to other claimants constrains me to refer you to her att o Mr Jenkins of Albany for that correspondence. If the claimant has discarded her att o she should make it known to this office. The Dept t as a general rule can correspond with but one att o in a case at the same time.
M. J. Bovee Esq Amsterdam N.Y.

L. Jenkins
9 Aug. 1839
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War Department
197
Pension Office
Aug. 9, 1889
Sir, The statement of Frederick Dimple in relation to the revolutionary services of Peter Groesbeck is indefinite as to dates - If Mrs. Groesbeck's husband's service under Capt. Heinrich Oothoudt & Capt. Ostrum evidence of it may be found in the Office of the Comptroller of New York & Bala, Cook Esq., to whom the Claimant is referred for further proof.
Laural Jenkins Esq. Albany N.Y.

Summer journals
June 21, 1837
Q. 6

War Department
Pension Office
June 21, 1837
Sir
The papers of Mrs Alida Groesbeck have have been examined and filed - It appears that the claimant was married in the month of July 1779 but there is no satisfactory evidence that her husband was in actual service after that time. The rolls of Capt Learning's Company are entire for the year 1780 but the claimants records do not contain of the officers husband
The evidence thus contain of the service of the claimants husband is not satisfactory. The statements of the witnesses in rotation thereon are indefinite, particularly as to dates - The rolls of Capt Learning's Company for the year 1780 the year after the date of the marriage furnish no proof of the service of the officers in question. If Abraham Vasburgh found as he states he was may be able in a supplemental affidavit to supply the date of the several terms of service which he describes and Julius Egan Albany New York

Washington Feb 7. 1857
Sir
Herewith enclosed is a Power of Attorney from Adelia Grosbeck widow of Peter W. Grosbeck who claims that she is entitled to a pension under the Act of July 11. 1836 - An opportunity of examining the papers in this case is requested
Respectfully
Your Obedt Servt V Luce
J. E. Hutton Esq. Comm ee Pensions

Whereas I. Alida Grosbeck, am the Widow of Peter W. Grosbeck deceased who was a soldier in the War of the Revolution, whereas and I, the said Alida Grosbeck made application for a Pension under the act of Congress passed July 4 th 1836, on account of the services of the said Peter W. Grosbeck deceased, which said application was suspended; and as I desire that my claim be re-examined and my said application renewed; Now therefore I do hereby constitute and appoint Saml. H. Weeks of the City of Albany, and Vinal Lewis Esq., of the City of Washington, my true and lawful attorneys and agents, for me, and in my name to call up, re-examine, and prosecute my claim to a pension, and for that purpose I do hereby grant to them full power and authority, as my agents, to do any act or thing legal, and proper, in the premises, hereby revoking all former powers of attorney, by me at any time executed for the above purposes; and I do hereby make this power of attorney irrevocable until the said claim shall have been fully decided by the Department having the same in charge. Witness my hands and seal at Albany this 21 st day of February January, 1853.
Executed in presence of J. H. Weeks
Alida her Grosbeck
John Root
State of New York
County of Albany ss: On this 21 st day of February January, A.D. 1853 before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, personally appeared Alida Grosbeck above named, and to me known, and acknowledged the foregoing power of attorney to be her act and deed - J. H. Weeks Justice of the Peace

State of New York County of Albany ss: Alida Groesbeck of the city of Albany, in said County being duly sworn according to law, deposith, and saith that she is the widow of Peter W. Groesbeck deceased, and that she is the identical Alida Groesbeck who made application for a Pension under the act of Congress passed July 4 th 1836, and that she is therefor directly and personally interested in the removal of said application and in the prosecution of said claim.  Subscribed and sworn to at Albany this 3 rd day of February  January 1853 before me Alida X Groesbeck J. H. Parsons Justice of the Peace
State of New-York, City and County of Albany, Clerk's Office.
ss. I Robert S. Lay, Clerk of the said City and County and of the Courts of Record therein, do hereby CERTIFY that J. H. Parsons whose name is appended to the affidavit annexed thereof, a Police Justice of the City of Albany, duly authorized to administer oaths for general purposes; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said J. H. Parsons and verily believe that the signature to the said J. H. Parsons is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my official seal, this 10 th day of July 1853. R. S. Lay Clerk.

Albany April 24 th 1843
I have the honor to inform You that Alida Groesbeck , the widow of Peter Groesbeck deceased, has applied to me for assistance in the prosecution of her claim / which she assumes to be a just one / upon the U. S. for a pension, in consideration of the revolutionary services of her late husband - She informs me that application has already been made in the matter, which was unsuccessful in its issue - Upon questioning a person of the name of Vosburg - who some time ago deposed to the facts within his knowledge - / whose affidavit I presume is on file in the Pension department / it would seem that Groesbeck performed during the war military service sufficient to entitle the applicant to a pension / the marriage having occurred previous to 1794 /
I would very respectfully request, that You would have the kindness to inform me at Your convenience what objection exists to her name being inscribed upon the Pension Roll
I have the honor to be Sir Your most obt. & humble servt
Wm. G. Pierce
The Hon. J. H. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions Washington

Albany May 13. 1840.
James L. Edmonds Esquire Commission of Pensions.
Sir,
In the case of Mr. Greesbeck Widow of Peter Greesbeck, I enclose a Certificate of the Compt. of this State, showing his services as therein stated.
In my last letter respecting this case, dated March 30. 1839, I enclose the affidavit of Frederick Dampke, which by your letter of — date, it appears was not deemed sufficient to establish her claim —
I hope the enclosed will be so construed in connection with the previous proofs —
Very Respectfully
Your obedt. Servt
Samuel Jenkins.

Jan 21. 1840
W.G.
Dear J. L. Edwards Committee of Privileges
May
Jan 21 - Washington D.C.
Groesbeck

Amsterdam January 17. 1840
Sir
I have been employed by Alida Grosbeck Widow of Peter Grosbeck to examine his Papers under the Act of July 4. 1836 please send me a copy of the report made in her case, and oblige yours &c
Matthew J. Bleecker
Dear J. L. Edwards

Albany March 30. 1839.
Sir,
In the case of Mrs. Groesbeck widow of Peter Groesbeck, when application has been made for a pension under the law of July 4, 1836, I enclose additional testimony consisting of the affidavits of Frederick Dampfe, a pensioner under the act of March 1818, which I think in connection with the evidence already in your office will establish her claim to a small pension -
I am, Sir,
With great respect
Your obedt Servt.
Levi Jenkins
James L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions War Dept.

Albany April 24. 1837.
James L. Edmunds Esquire, Commissioner of Pensions,
Sir,
I herewith transmit the declaration affidavits in the case of Mrs. Alida Gossbeck, on her appli- -cation for a pension under the 3 d Sec. of the act of July 4. 1836. and am,
Sir, very respectfully,
Your ob dt Serv t
L. Jenkins.

Susannah Let to
Lucinda Jackson (unclear)
Lucinda Jackson (unclear)
Lucinda Jackson (unclear)
Lucinda Jackson (unclear)
Act July 1836

Alida Goetsbeck N.York Suspa
Mary Scott was located with me in the prosecution of this claim D.D. Allerton
E. G. May Scott March 17-52

STATE OF New York } ss: COUNTY OF Albany }
Be it known, that on this twenty-ninth day of January , A. D. eighteen hundred and fifty-two, before the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared Alida Groesbeck , a resident of the city of Albany in said County, and made oath according to law, that she is the widow of Peter W. Groesbeck served in the Militia of the state of New York in the Revolutionary War in the Regiment commanded by Col. Jacob Laursen , for which she claims a Pension that she is directly interested, as aforesaid, as a claimant, and makes this affidavit for the purpose of obtaining such of Pension as may be due under any of the Laws, Regulations, or decisions that have been or may hereafter be adopted. The said Affiant further declares that she hereby constitutes and appoints D. D. Adelson of Washington City to be Attorney and Agent to prosecute said claim, with power of substitution, to examine all papers and documents in relation to it, and to do all things necessary and lawful in the premises; except drawing the money, which will be hereafter provided for.
Sworn to and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid, before me, J. O. Cole J. Peace.
Alida X Groesbeck mark
I, John O. Cole Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify that Alida Groesbeck , above named, is a respectable resident of this County, and is, as I believe, directly interested in said claim as therein set forth, and acknowledges the above Power of Attorney to be her act and deed.
J. O. Cole J. Peace.
In testimony that the above-named J. O. Cole was a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, at the date of the same, I hereby subscribe my name and affix the County Seal.
W. S. Gay County Clerk.