Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4595, Peter Harder, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Harder, Peter Evv.
VP 4595.
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5192 New York
Peter Harder
of Washington in the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Miller of the Reg t commanded by Col. Van Riper in the New York line for 13 months
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 43 Dollars 33 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 15 th day of Feb. 1832 - and sent to Mr. H. H. N. Y. R.
Arrears to 4th of Sep. 1832 $65.00 Pension allowance ending 4 th mo '32 21.66 $86.66
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Book D.
Vol. 5.
Page
124
Clerk
Geo. C. Stiles

State of New York 3/4 County of Washington 3/4 On this 28 th day of August in the year 1832 Personally appeared in Open Court before the Hon John Willard Charles F. Ingalls Major J. H. Skinner and John Mott Judges of the County Court in and for said County now sitting Peter Warder of the Town of Argyle in the County of Washington and State of New York aged Twenty Nine Years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed 7 th July 1832.
That he entered the service of the Uni- ted States under the following named Officers and served as herein stated; In the month of July or August 1777 the Company of Mi- litia to which he was attached were called in to actual service and Mustered at Claverack in the County of Columbia and State of New York and Marched from thence to Saratoga where they continued in actual service until after the capture of Burgoyne in the month of October 1777. he continued doing duty at said time as a common Soldier for the term of three Months, when he was discharged and returned home to Claverack
That in the year 1778. about the Month June or July he was again called out by the order of Government and Mustered at Claver- ack aforesaid and Marched to Lake George and remained in that vicinity doing duty as a common Soldier for the term of three Months and was then discharged and returned to Claverack
That in the month of June 1779. the Company to which he was attached was again called out and were Mustered

at Clareinck and went West to Fort Plain on the Mohawk River, he was with said company in actual service as a Common Soldier at the latter place for two months and from there was Marched to Fort Ederick where they were stationed for one month and then was discharged and returned to Clareinck -
In the Month of June 1780. he was again called out to oppose the move- ments of the Indians upon the Mohawk and continued in actual service for three months when he was again discharged and returned to Clareinck
In the Month June 1782 he was again called out and was mustered at Clareinck and Marched to Stillwater where he continued for two months and was discharged and Returned to Clareinck
The names of the officers under whom, he served were Capt. Miller, Lieut. Peter Van Ruylen, Maj. Harry Van Ruy- len Col. Robert Van Ruylen and the others he has forgotten. He was in generally engaged in recon- noyering the position of the Indians and their troops and was in no general battle and from the year 1777 to the close of the Campaign in 1782 he was almost constantly on duty as a Common Soldier in the actual service of the United States
At other times than those heretofore narrated the Regiment to which he belonged was ordered out and on all occa- sions when that took place, he accompa- nied them

he continued to reside in Clarendon until about the year 1801. when he removed to Argyle where he now resides and where he has continued to reside
1 That he was born in the Town of Cla- rendon in the said County of Columbia on the day Twenty Seventh day of March 1753.
2 That the name of his age is in the family of his mother in the County of Columbia, but he has in his possession no record, but has no doubt the above is correctly stated
3 At the time of his removal when he was called into service he resided at Clarendon as he said; and from 1801. to the present time he has resided in Argyle aforesaid
4 He was called into service at the time of the above mentioned in consequence of the government to which he was attached having been ordered out and went into District Service
5 The names of the regular officers were as stated herein before as far as he can recollect
6 He never had any written discharge to his knowledge
The persons by whom he is known and who will testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his having been a Soldier of the Revolution and who live in his immediate neighborhood are Archibald White and Abraham Killmore of the Town of Argyle in said County
The aforesaid officers he believes are all dead and he has no knowledge that he can prove attached service by any living witness
That he has no documentary evidence by which to establish his claim

He hereby disavows any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of Agency of any State.
J. S. Leigh CCR
Peter his Haiden mark
We Archibald White a clergyman residing in the Town of Argyle and in the said County Neighboring of the within named Peter Haiden and Abraham Killman of the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with the said Peter Haiden who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be seventy nine years of age, that he is respected and beloved in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Arch: White
Sworn & subscribed in open Court this 30 th day of August 1832 J. S. Leigh CCR
Markham Fullerton
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named Applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Archi- bald White who has signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman residing in the said Town of Argyle in the said County of Washington and that Abraham Killman who has also signed the same is a resident in the said Town of Argyle, and is a credible person and

that this Statement is entitled to credit etc etc
I Joseph S. Leigh Clerk of the Court of Sessions at Preston in and for the County of Wash- ington, do hereby certify that the for- going contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the applica- tion of Peter Harder for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this Thirtieth day of August 1832. etc
J. S. Leigh C.R.

The within application of Peter Hoard for a Pension, was inclosed to me by David Russell Esq. Mr Russell is an Atty. & Counsellor of law in Washington County N.Y. an Honorable man, and now a member of the N.Y. Legislature, I am confident therefore that this Declaration has not in any respect been altered since it was passed upon by the Court. I do therefore hope that this memorandum will be considered a sufficient authentication  Nathl. Peterson Jan. 26. 1833
Peter Hoard. Pension
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State of New York } ss. Washington County }
On this 15 th day of February - 1844 personally appeared before the undersigned a judge of the county courts of the county of Washington and State aforesaid, they being courts of record, Eve Harder a resident of Argyle in the county and state aforesaid aged 81 years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed July 4, 1836; That she is the widow of Peter Harder who was a private in the Revolutionary war and drew a pension of the pension as per notes of her own writing, as the certificate thereof is returned to the war office forty three dollars and some cents per annum up to the day of his death. She further declares that she was married to the said Peter Harder on the 4 th day of August 1781 and that her husband the aforesaid Peter Harder died in Argyle on the 14 th day of August 1842 and that she has remained a widow ever since that period, as will more fully appear by reference to the proof herunto annexed, and that she has not learned to write.
Sworn to and subscribed on this, 15 th  her Eve X Harder day and year above written, before me } mark
John M c Lean First judge of the county courts of the county and state aforesaid
I John M c Lean First judge of the county courts of the county and state aforesaid do here by declare my opinion, that Eve Harder who is described in, and who executed the foregoing declaration is that widow of Peter Harder who was a private in the Revolutionary war and a pensioner, and died on the 14 th day of August 1842 and that she was married to the said Peter Harder on the 4 th day of August 1781. And I the said judge do certify that Eve Harder aforesaid is not able to appear in open court to make her declaration for a pension on account of old age and bodily infirmity and that she is a person of known credibility.
John M c Lean First judge of the county court aforesaid.
The interlineation in the foregoing declaration, was made by me at the time the attestation thereto by the said Eve Harder.
John M c Lean First judge aforesaid

I Eve Harder of Argyle in the county of Washington and State of New York aged 81 years, being first duly sworn according to law do depose and say, that I was married in the town of Claverick in the county of Columbia to Peter Harder on the 4th day of August 1781 by Mr. Cypherd a Dutch reform minister, and that the record of the said marriage was made in a Dutch Psalm book was made by George Bane the fall the marriage took place, and after that the records of the births of my children were made in the said Psalm Book, I further depose and say that the leaves which contain the said record were taken from the said Psalm Book where they have remained as a family record till now, by myself, and that I am the identical person described in the record of the marriage which the leaf hereto annexed contains.
Eve her Harder.
Sworn to and subscribed this 15 th day of February 1844
Before me John M c Lean First judge of the county court of the county of Washington and state aforesaid.
And I John M c Lean do certify that Eve Harder who is described in, and executed the foregoing deposition is a credible witness.
John M c Lean First Judge of the county court of the county and state aforesaid.

Translation
Rev. War. No. 4595 Peter Harder Of a private or family record written in German on two small sheets of paper evidently detached from a memorandum book. The paper and the writing have all the appearances of being old and would indicate that the record is genuine.
Eva Land was married to Peter Harder August 4 th 1781.
1. Our daughter Christina is born the 17 th of February, in the year of Christ 1782 2. Our second daughter Mary is born on the 27 th of March in the year of Christ 1785? 3. On the 12 th day of August 1787 is born my daughter Jeanne ; 4. This daughter Lydia is born November 9 th in the year 1790 5. Our daughter Katherina is born on the 17 th of February 1793; 6. On July 17 th 1796 is born my daughter Kitty ? 7. Elizabeth Harder is born on the 21 st of March 1799. 8. Hetty Harder was born in the year of Our Lord 1805, on October 13. and died May 1 st 1806.
N.B. The correctness of the names of the 6 th and 8 th child is in doubt.
Fred J. Braendle, Translator October 2 d 1914

Peter Harder
16
July 22 '33
David Russell Esq. Washington Wyo
Hon. Mott Pitcher
D.C. R
P 210.

BRIEF in the case of  Peter Harder, of Schylle  County of Washington  in the State of  New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? In open Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? Seventy Nine years 79  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     was called into service July or Aug In 1777 — 3 — private Gen. Capt. Miles, Lieut. Peter   about June or July 1778 — 3 — — van Rensselaer, Col. Robt. van   was called out June 1779, called out — 2 — — Rensselaer, Major Henry van   June 1780 ditto — 3 — — Rensselaer   June 1782 ditto — 2 — —  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? Not any  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Gloucester, Columbia Co. New York  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? By traditional evidence 
8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect?  Certificate of Hon. N. Pitcher M.C. as to his belief that the papers are those that passed the Court accompanying the declaration.  I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Chas. S. Wilcox Examining Clerk.  Jan 1, 17 th 1833

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Peter Harder a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his and (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. R. File 4595-
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     July or Aug. 1777 3 mos Pri. Miller Robt Van Rensselaer N.Y.   June or July, 1778 3 "   June, 1779 2 "   June, 1780 3 "   June, 1782 2 "  
Battles engaged in, _____
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Claverack, N.Y.
Date of application for pension, Aug. 28, 1832. His cl. was al
Residence at date of application, Argyle, Washington Co. N.Y.
Age at date of application, B'mch. 27, 1753, at Claverack, Columbia Co. N.Y.
Remarks: He mar. Aug. 4, 1781, at Claverack, N.Y.
Eve or Eva Land; he died Aug. 14, 1842, at Argyle, N.Y.,  Jan. 24, 1848, aged 85 yrs.  she died, Children: Christina, b. Feb. 17, 1782; Mary, b. Mch.  27, 1785; Jeanine, b. Aug 12, 1787; Lydia, b. Nov. 9, 1790; Ratherina,  b. Feb. 17, 1793; Kitty, (?) b. July 17, 1796; Elizabeth, b. Mch. 21, 1799;  Hetty (?) b. Oct. 13, 1805; d. May 1, 1866. Respectfully,
Commissioner.

b Eva Land ist getraut mit Petrus Härde den 4ten Augustus im Jahr Christi 1781
Unser Tochterlein Christina ist gebohren den 19. Februar im Jahr Christi 1782
Unser zweyter Tochter gebohren den 27. März im Jahr Christi 1784
the 19 th Day of Febr. in the year 1782 our Daughter born same

My hand was born the year of our Lord 1805 October 13 My hand in Disraeli May the first 1806
The 17 day of July in the year of our Lord one tho- usand 796 is my thought born gilly

11. S. 1 Tochter Klea ist geboren den 9. November im Jahr 1790 unter Joch Derlein Ca Drina ist geboren den 14. Februar im Jahr 1793
Elisabeth Harder ist Born 21 day Mar in year 1799

NY March 21 st 1846
Sir
The inclosed papers are in the case of Eve Handed and will please examine them when and then come round and if there is anything lacking inform me what it is
Respectfully yours.
S. M. Bragg
J. S. Edwards Esq Commissioned of Business Washburn City D.C.

Troy August 6 1846
Sir
I have been urged by the friends of Mrs Eve Harder who claims a pension on account of her late husband Peter Harder dec, The claim has been rejected as I understand for want of additional evidence of her husband's services, which they are unable to furnish. The enclosed is a Letter from the Comptroller of this State, shewing that Peter Harder's name does not appear on the files in that Office, The old Lady is very poor, and for a long time has been confined to her room, on account of bodily infirmity, And unless she receives assistance from Government, she must go to the County House, Therefore I hope you will take her case under, consideration, and be as charitable as circumstances will allow.
Respectfully Yours J. L. Edwards Esq } C. W. Peble Comm of Pensions } Washington D.C.

6149.
Eve Harders N.Y.
Suspended
Left St. Louis Sept 23-81
Rev. E.D. Clegg 1-3 Jan 82
C. M. Noble, Sept 3-1846.
Rev. H. Booy 8 Aug 19 1852
W.H. King May 5 1853
Act July 4 not 30

Washington County N.Y. Argyle Nov 27. 1852
Sir
Your letter addressed to Hon J. H. Boyd of the date 19 th August 1852 was duly transmitted to me by Mr Boyd. I only received it however a few days since. It refers to the case of Eve Harder widow of the late Peter Harder. by your letter of that date, you say that "as her husband was a pensioner under the act of 1832 if she survived the passage of the joint resolution of Congress of 1 st July 1848 the Service will be admitted & her children pensioned &c". Now she died as I am informed on the 24 th day of January 1848 & did not therefore survive the passage of the resolution you refer to. I have examined the several pension acts & the opinions of the attorney General from time to time. & I conclude that it is not necessary that she should have survived the 1 st July 1848 to enable her children to take. that joint resolution did not confer a pension, but established a rule of proof. the proof had been commenced before her death & were not completed at her decease & according to the decision of Hon J. S. Edmonds made April 5 th 1839 to Hon Levi Woodbury in the case of Issie Gove Viment found in the pension papers as compiled by Commission of pensioners in 1849 Page 114 the children have a right to take. at all events she survived the passage of the appropriation act for the payment of Revolutionary & other pensions passed for the year ending 30 th June 1847 & approved May 7 th 1846 and in that act similar provision is made to proof (only not conclusive)

is made as in the resolution of July 1 st 1848 I would refer you to the opinion of Hon. J. H. Marshall attorny Genl of the date June 23. 1846 also found in the 2 d page of the appendix in the Compilation of Pension Laws above referred to & in the spirit of that opinion I think there can be no doubt in the case. I make these suggestions for the reason that the children are poor and are not able to incur any unnecessary expense & would ask you to write me as soon as convenient for you your opinion on this point & if favorable as I have no doubt it will be I then will have the declaration made as pointed out in the letter of August 19 th 1852 before referred to, at the same time please inform me before what office the declaration of the children must be made. I make these inquiries because I am not a professional pension agent but from motives of benevolence am assisting the children of Eve Hander in obtaining this small pittance from government.
Yours Respectfully
Wm. S. King

Rev Ser ✓ ✓
Greenwich N.Y.
Sept. 26. 1914.
Pension Bureau :
Messrs:
Kindly give me information such as you may have of Peter Harder of the New York Militia, who served during the Revolutionary war and was listed among the pensioners in 1835.
Thanking you.
Very Truly
(Miss) Verma M c Geoch
40 Salem St.,
Greenwich
New York.
(Albany County Militia Eighth Regiment)

J. L. Edwards Esq
Please communicate the information asked for in to the above to me - oblige
Yours
E. Hulme

1914, Oct. 2. History to Miss Verna M c Leoch. Fm
Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
4090.
P. O.
One Harder
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Charles Peoble
May 1841

Comptroller Office Albany 24 th Augt. 1846
Sir
The name of Peter Hardu does not appear on the books & files in this office relating to the Revolutionary period
Chas. Peabody Esq. Troy N.Y.
Yours Respectfully Philip Phelps Deputy

1149
Eve Harper
N.Y.
Act July 4. 36
4595
This band died Aug 14 th '42
Act H ad July 1836.

I Lydia Kilmer of Argyle, Washington County and State of New York aged 53 years, being first duly sworn according to law, do depose and say that I am the daughter of Eve and Peter Harder, and that a record of their marriage, also the births of part of their children was placed in a Dutch Psalm Book belonging to my mother aforesaid, and that the leaves containing said record have remained in the said Psalm Book ever since as a family record, and that they were taken from said Psalm Book by my mother aforesaid, I further depose and say that my mother remains the widow of Peter Harder who was a private in the Revolutionary war and a pensioner, and died August 14, 1842, and that my mother who is the applicant for a pension is the identical person named in the record of marriage herunto annexed, and further the deponent saith not.
Lydia Her Kilmer March 1844
Sworn to and subscribed this 15 th day of February
Before me, John M c Lean First Judge of the county courts of the county of Washington and state aforesaid.
I John M c Lean do certify that Lydia Kilmer executed the foregoing deposition as a credible witness
John M c Lean First Judge of the aforesaid county courts.

State of New York Washington county ss I Henry Shiplund clerk of said county do hereby certify that John M c Lean Esq whose signa- tures are subscribed to the within and annexed Inats and certificates was at the time said signatures purport to have been made a Judge of the County Court of said county duly qualified and that signatures are genuine that as then subscribed In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said county the 10 th day of March A 1814
H Shiplund clerk