Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S 3429, Joseph Grimsley, Va.

SERVICE
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Va.
Grimsley Joseph
S3429
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127 West Tennessee
Joseph Grimsley
Subscribed in the Par of Tennessee who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Chapman of the Regiment commanded by Col. Randleston in the Virginia line for Seven months
Inscribed on the Roll of West Tennessee at the rate of 23 Dollars 33 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 28 day of July 1834 and issued S. G.
James Hall Branch
Arrears to the 4th of March. $46.66 Fem-ant. allowance ending Sept 11 66
$58.32
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Issued June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Dan. G. G. Clerk, Book 8 Vol. 86 Page 125

See letter 21 Aug 1835 to W. Lempka & Jonesboro. agent.
Date of death not on AB.

State of Tennessee Sullivan County On this 10 th day of May 1833 personally appeared before Abraham Walker and acting Justice of the Peace for said County Joseph Grimsley a resident of Tennessee in the County of Sullivan aged ninety two years who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832
That he entered the Service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated
1 st Term of Service Entered under Col James Pennington, Maj William Robert, Capt William Whippen, Alexander Waugh, James Rucker, and Will: in the month of August 1778 1778 - and left the Service the last of October 1778 was in no engagement. lived in Culpepper County State of Virginia was drafted into the Service. Marched through a part of Virginia Maryland and a part of Pennsylvania States. joined no other company whilst he was out. and has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service -
2 nd Term of Service Entered under Col John Thornton, Col Allcock, Maj Small, Capt William Green, in the month of May or June in the year 1781 and left the Service after the Surrender of Cornwallis lived in Culpepper County State of Virginia was drafted into the Service was in no battles other than the Siege of York joining Genl Washingtons regular troops. there joined Genl George Wash- ingtons Army. Marched only in the State of Virginia know- ing nothing of some french officers but their names not now recollected. and has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service -
He hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension or annuity except except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension book of the agency of any State pension and subscribed the way and year aforesaid

Personally appeared before me, the undersigned a justice of the peace to Joseph Trimbly who, being duly sworn, deposith & saith, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively to the precise length of his service but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the period mentioned below, and in the following grade. For seven months and fifteen days, I served as a drafted soldier or militia, and for such service I claim a pension.
Abraham Vance Justice of the Peace
Qrs by the justice of the peace to the claimant Where and in what year were you born Ans In Virginia State Prince William County in the year 1741
2 d Qrs Have you any record of your age, and if so where is it Ans Yes, in my Father's Family Bible
3 d Qrs Where were you living when called into the service, where have you since lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live Ans In Culpepper County Virginia State, I have lived since in Virginia and Kentucky States, and now lives in Sullivan County Tennessee State
4 th Qrs How were you called into service, were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute. And if a substitute for whom.
Ans I was drafted into the service, did not volunteer nor was not a substitute.
5 th Qrs State the names of some of the regular officers who were with the troops where you served, such continental and militia Regiments as you can recollect and the general circumstances of your service
Ans I knew Genl George Washington and Genl Loringburg

there was a heavy thunder storm arose and the report of the thunder was taken by the troops to be the British artillery and they broke and fled very much, I know of nothing more in a General Point of view that is is calculated to throw any more light on the subject -
6th Dec
from the service
Did you ever receive a discharge, and if so what has become of it and by whom was it given -
And yes I received a discharge the first term of service but not the last. It was given by Col. James Pendleton but I do not know what has become of it.
7th Dec
State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighbourhood and who can testify as to your character for veracity and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
In Mr William Stevenson, William Ingle, Jesse James, P. etc, Jerry White Esq., Mr Charles etc Daniel Denton, David White, Walter Crouch, David Gibson, John Whillock, Gabriel Morgan. To Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid - Joseph Grimsley mark
Abraham White Justice of the peace I am the justice of the peace do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And further certifies that Jesse
Riggs who
Rev Jesse Riggs a clergyman residing in the county of Sullivan and state of Tennessee and George Pruffett residing (in the same) hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joseph Grimsley who has

Subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be ninety two years of age that he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution. and that we concur in that opinion
sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid
Abraham Waldo
George Poffit
Justice of the Peace
George Poffit
And the said Justice of the Peace do hereby declare his opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier in the state of Ohio and he further certifies that Elias Riggs who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman residing in the county and state aforesaid. And George Poffit who also has signed the same resides in the county and state aforesaid. And is a creditable person. and that their statements are entitled to credit. I hereby further certify that the said applicant cannot from bodily infirmity attend court. And I do further certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said matter in the application of Joseph Bromley for a pension.
Given under my hand
and seal the day & date before written
Abraham Waldo
Justice of the Peace
State of Tennessee } I George W. Netherland Clerk of the Court of Sullivan County } Pleas for the county aforesaid hereby certify that Abraham Waldo Esquire whose certificate appears above is now and was at the time of making the same an acting Justice of the peace in and for said county and that full faith and credit are due his official acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my Office at Office in Blountville the 21st day of May 1833 G.W. Netherland Clerk

No 13,536 Joseph Grimsley
5. 17
from 177 8 pints 7 months $23.33 100
J. J. James Fall Branch Tenn

BRIEF in the case of Joseph Grimsley of the County of Sullivan in the State of Tenn c
(Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Justice of the peace  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? bodily infirmity  3. How old is he? 91 years 
4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1778 Aug t " 81 May or June 1. to the last of Oct r — 5 2 5 — 6 drafted ditto Gen. Col. Pendleton, Capt. Chapman, Col. Alcock, Capt. Green   { which is 5 6  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Gulpeper Co. Va.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? tradition  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Regular 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Levin Belt Examining Clerk.

February 2, 1938
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BA-J/EBL cur Joseph Grimsley-S.3429
Sarah B. Hanley Monmouth Illinois
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of a soldier who served from Virginia, surname Grimsley, Christian name either John, Joseph or William.
There are no claims for pension or bounty land on file based upon the military service in the Revolutionary War of a John or William Grimsley. The record has been found of a Joseph Grimsley, who served in the Virginia troops. His record is furnished herein, the data for which were obtained from the papers on file in his claim for pension, S.3429, based upon his military service in the Revolutionary War.
Joseph Grimsley was born in 1741, in Prince William County, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown.
While living in Culpeper County, Virginia, Joseph Grimsley enlisted in August, 1778, and served until the last of October, of that year as a private in Captain William Chapman's Company, Colonel Pendleton's Virginia Regiment; he enlisted in May or June, 1781, served as a private in Captain William Green's Company, Colonel John Thornton's Virginia Regiment, was at the siege of Yorktown and was discharged after the surrender of Cornwallis.
After the Revolution, he lived in Virginia, and Kentucky, then in Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed May 11, 1833, while a resident of Sullivan County, Tennessee.
There are no data as to soldier's family.
I did not use Col James Pendleton as this Col. was in a Cont'l Reg. at this time. Col Philip Pendleton had a reg't of militia, so I thought it was Philip I did not use James.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, Joseph Grimsley (S.3429), you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and cite the following data:
Joseph Grimsley Certificate No.19021 Issued July 26, 1833 Rate, $23.33 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831 Act of June 7, 1832 West Tennessee Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

11/24
July 25, 1925.
Mrs. J. H. Hanley Monmouth, Illinois.
Madam:
I have to advise you, that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S-3429, it appears that Joseph Grimsley was born in Prince William County, Virginia in 1741.
While residing in Culpeper County, Virginia He enlisted in August 1778 and served until the last of October 1778 as a private in Captain William Chapman's Company, Colonel James Pendleton's Virginia Regiment.
He enlisted in May or June 1781 in Captain William Green's Company, under Colonels James Thornton and Allcock in the Virginia Troops and served until after the siege of Yorktown in which he was engaged.
He was allowed pension on his application executed May 11, 1833 while residing in Sullivan County, Tennessee.
There is no data on file as to his family.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.

STATE OF ILLINOIS HENRY HORNER, GOVERNOR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WELFARE GENERAL OFFICE, SPRINGFIELD
A. L. BOWEN, DIRECTOR MRS. DOROTHY L. KAY, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR JOSEPH E. RAGEN, SUPERINTENDENT OF PRISONS JOHN C. WEIGEL, FISCAL SUPERVISOR PAUL L. SCHROEDER, M. D., CRIMINOLOGIST H. DOUGLAS SINGER, M. D., ALIENIST W. C. JONES, SUPERVISOR OF PAROLES
DIVISION OF SOCIAL ASSISTANCE JAMES H. ANDREWS, SUPERINTENDENT SPRINGFIELD
My dear Sir:
Did a soldier of the Revolution from Virginia receive a pension for his services by the name of Grimsley?
Not sure of his first name - John Joseph or William. This information will be greatly appreciated
Sincerely yours, Sarah B. Hanley.
Monmouth, Illinois January 15, 1938

JOHN H. HANLEY RES. PHONE 1455 GEO. E. COX RES. PHONE 2128
TELEPHONE 4651
Mrs. HANLEY & COX ATTORNEYS AT LAW LOEW BUILDING MONMOUTH, ILLINOIS
My dear sir:-
Will you please give me the record in the Revolutionary war of Joseph Grimsley who received a pension while living in Tennessee.
I particularly want any data regarding his family. I shall greatly appreciate this information.
Very sincerely yours
Mrs. J. H. Hanley Monmouth, Ills.

1925 July 20 - First to Mrs. J. H. Hunsinger - m. S. 4 1938 Feb 2 - First to Sarah B. Hunsinger - Ch
Rev. Hunsinger
3429 INVALID.
File No. 3429
Joseph Grimbley Rev. Pres. line
Act: June 7 th 32
Index:—Vol. A , Page 149
[Arrangement of 1870.]

No 13536 Joseph Grimsley
J. J. James Esq Fall Branch Tenn.

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Joseph Grimsley which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? no VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? yes
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? yes
XIV. †If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? yes
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
†QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Fall Branch 3 29 May
free
June
Secretary of War
June
to
Declaration of Joseph Grimsley
for a pension 3 Washington 6 D.C.

Fall Branch 29 th May 1833
Dir
The Declaration of Joseph Grimeley which you returned was no o and a new declaration has been made out. and is here inclosed together with the brief which was sent by you containing the objections to the admission of his claim on that declaration. When this declaration shall have been examined you will be pleased to let me know the result. Ho
Sir I am yours Respectfully
J. P. James
Mr. Secretary if the declaration that P. No. is sent on to you by J. P. James meets your approbation and my claim is admitted you will please to send my certificate on to the ears of J. P. James P. No. at Fall Branch if it is not admitted be pleased to let me know what is yet the show  deficiency the objections to Joseph his  Grimeley  ments