Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8669, John Hagle, Va.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Heagle, John
S. 8669
CONTENTS
carded

7007
Virginia
John Hagle
of Lewis County in the State of Virginia who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Stewart of the Regiment commanded by Col. Lewis in the Virginia militia for 2 years.
ack to War: 35 Rev. Account M. H. Johnson 20. May 26. 1836 to W. G. Bagley
Inscribed on the Roll of Virginia at the rate of 80. Dollars and Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 19th day of February 1833 and sent to Hon. M. Maxwell A. Rep.
  Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1832. $ 120.00   Pension allowance ending March 33. 40.00   ditto ditto 4 Sept. 33. 40.00   $ 200.00 
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. D. Williams Clerk, Book E. Vol. 6 Page 11

State of Virginia County of Lewis
In this 7 th day of August 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Justices of Lewis County Court now sitting John Hagle a resident of Lewis County in the said State of Virginia aged 82 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named Officers, and served as herein stated, — That in the year 1774 he started from that part of Virginia which is now Randolph County under the command of Lieutenant William White as a drafted militia man was marched to Point Pleasant at the mouth of the Great Kanawha was in the battle under Colonel Lewis against the Indians defeated the Indians. This was in 1774 before the Revolutionary war was fairly commenced. From that campaign he returned to Dygarts valley in the now Randolph County, there remained until 1776 when he volunteered as an Indian spy under a certain Captain Ralph Stuart. Spied in what is now Randolph Harrison Wood Lewis Nicholas Pendleton and Greenbrier Counties for eighteen months and was discharged by his Captain. He having in this engagement not less than 13 months in the service as a private soldier or spy. Then in the

Spring of 1778 He again volunteered as an Indian Spie in the same region of Country under a Captain Knall or Knalls his first name not recollected. He served from March 1778 till Christmas of that year under Captain Knalls and was discharged verba- ly he now thinks. Then again in March 1779 (he thinks he is correct as to dates but is not certain) he entered under Captain John Shidmore as a vo- lunteer Indian Spie from 1 st of March till Christ- mas there being being the periods between which he was had thought to fear visits from the Savage foe. He served this term again under Cap- tain Shidmore in the same parts of Virginia as a private Indian Spie; was discharged at Christmas 1779. In the Spring of 1780 he again volunteered as an Indian Spie under Captain George Jackson, continued under Captain Jackson from 1 st March till Nov. of 1780 when he was transferred to a cer- tain Captain Long, first name not you recollect- ed. He served but a few days under Captain Long till he was dismissed verbally the reason of the same being served when danger was little apprehended. This last service was in the same region above men- tioned, but as I don't begin this last service on Buchanan now Lewis County In the Spring of 1781 in March he again volunteered as a Spie under Captain Long and continued till first of Nov. of that year, was again verbally discharged. In 1782

again served same period under the same Captain George Erickson and Col. William Doughty from which till November 1782 or did the close of the Revolution in 1783 close declarant's service as an Indian Spice, he continued to perform that service under different officers down to 1794 every summer and always as a volunteer. He cannot say the precise time he served in all, but he is certain that he did not serve a less period between the years 1776 and 1783 as a volunteer Indian Spice than four whole years, and more as a private in Indian Spice. He has no documentary evidence. And he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure, who can testify to his services. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the Agency of any State.
Known to and subscribed this            day and year afore- said.
John T. Hagle Mark
The Board propounded to declarant the seven several interrogatories prescribed by the War Department to which he gave the following answers viz.
 1 st That he was born in 1750 on Schuylkill in Pennsylvania according to his parents.  2 nd That he has no record of his age.  3 rd That he was living in Randolph County (now so 

called) then in 1774 (West Augusta) and 1776 when he entered as a Spie he thinks it was Monongalia. He has lived ever after the Revolutionary war in Harrison County in Va untill 1816 when Lewis Co. was formed out of parts of Harrison since which time he has lived in Lewis and still does.
4. He was called into the service as a drafted man in 1774 but all his other service during the Revolution was as a volunteer.
5. He does not recollect any field officers except Col. Duncall, Col. Lewis who he was acquainted with in his service as a Spie. He spied in the now counties of Randolph, Greenbrier, Lewis, Harrison, Nicholas, Wood and Pendleton. He often detected the traces of Indians and gave early information at the settlements and forts. Several times aided in recapturing property stolen by them and rescuing prisoners taken by them, his service was a hard & perilous one many of the particulars have escaped his memory in the great lapse of time.
6. He does not now recollect that he ever received any written discharge if he did he has lost it.
7. That he is acquainted with George Bush Esq and Adam Fisher in his neighbourhood who can testify as to their belief of his character for veracity and their belief of his services.

as a soldier of the Revolution. That there are no other pensioners living near to him.
his John L. Hagte mark.
We George Bush and Adam Fisher residing in the County of Lewis hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Hagte who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be 82 years of age. That he is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Subscribed and sworn to the day and year aforesaid
George Bush Adam Fisher
And the said Board do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, That the above named applicant was a revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states, and the Board further certifies that it appears to them that no other pensioner reside in the neighbourhood of the applicant, and that it also appears to them that George Bush Esq. and Adam Fisher who have signed the preceding certificate are residents in the said County of Lewis. That they are credible

persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I John Talbott Clerk of the County Court of Lewis County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Haste for a pension.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and private Seal (not having an official one) this 21 st day of January 1833.
J. Talbott Seal
I do hereby certify that John Talbott is Clerk of the County Court of Lewis County Virginia. Jan. 28 th 1833.
Lewis Maxwell
(Endorsement.)
The Dept. will please to decide upon this application and advise me the result at this place (Hinton Va.) send me the certificate if allowed.
J. Wamsley

John Hagle
from 1776 p.m. water 2 years. $80.
Hon. Mr. Mayhew

BRIEF in the case of John Hagle County of Lewis in the State of Virginia (Act 7th June, 1832)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 82.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. As a Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Gen.   Years, Months, Days.     Drafted In 1774 not stated Private Lieut. William White, Col. Lewis   Vol. 1776 1 6 Indian Spy Capt. Ralph Stewart   " 1778 March "untill Christmas 1778" do. Capt. Small or Smalls   " 1779 1 st March "untill Christmas 1779" do. 1 st John Skidmore   " 1780 1 st March not stated precisely do. Capt. George Jackson & Capt. Long  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Randolph, City. Va.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct 
Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Vol. 1781 March "untill 1 st Nov. 1781" Indian Spy. Capt. Long  - 1782 March "untill Nov. 1782" Private. Capt. George Jackson, Col. William Gower. Examining Clerk. [ "That he did not serve a less period, between the years 1776 and 1783; than four whole years." ] J. Waugh Feb. 13. 1833

Rev War
8669
INVALID.
File No. 8669
John Hagle Dis. New War
Act: June 1 st 32
Index:—Vol. 1 st , Page 161
[Arrangement of 1870.]

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims , of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Hoagle which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?
No seal of office, but his official character is certified by a Member of Congress.

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? 2 Citizens
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? yes
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one proof cannot be had. yes
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? No
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? _____
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? _____
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? _____
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
†QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's service, the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
†QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

I HEREBY certify, that the accompanying pages numbered from One to Six, inclusive, are truly copied from the originals in the Office of the Commissioner of Pensions, Department of War.
J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions.
BE IT REMEMBERED, That JAMES L. EDWARDS, who has signed the foregoing certificate, is Commissioner of Pensions; and that to his attestations full faith and credit are and ought to be given.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and caused the seal of the Department to be affixed, on this Twenty-Sixth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty- six .
Leahy
Secretary of War.

Report in the case of John Hays Poulter Hand
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John Hagle. a Pensioner for 2 yrs.
I am Hagle in West Va June 29 th 1834, & received the following statement from him. He is in his 85 th year, born and raised in Pennsylvania. Removed to Maryland, from thence to Nutt Branch of Potomac in Virginia. and from thence to the forks of Cheat River just after Allegany Mountains. When he moved to the latter place was 16 or 17 yrs. old. lived at Cheat River several years and then returned to Nuttfield (Nutt Branch of Potomac) from Nuttfield went to Buckhannon. (just after Allegany Mountains) where his brother Michael was. the people including himself commenced a Fort at that place. but disagreeing among themselves broke up & separated. one party went to Nutter's Fort near Clarksville. the other to Tazewell Valley. he joined the latter party. and aided in building a Fort in Tazewell Valley. this was in the year 1774 - in the same year (1774) he went out under Genl. Andrew Lewis to Point Pleasant. and was in that memorable engagement in which the Indians were defeated. in the succeeding year (1775) there was peace between the Americans and Indians. the succeeding year (1776) the war again broke out between the Americans and Indians. he went to Buckhannon again and aided in building a fort there. he remained at Buckhannon Fort until two years before the close of the Rev. War. at which time the Fort was deserted and the men that were there dispersed. Some went to the Nutt Branch down to Nutter's Fort. he went to the latter place, left his family there. and went to the forks of Cheat, rented land and

and till it could peace was made, then returned to Nuttas Fort. took his family to Buckhannon & settled at where he now lives. - whilst there at Buckhannon he was in service Scrimage and scouts against the Indians. Spying out for Indians west of the Fort. every year whilst there at Buckhannon. the County Lieutenant sent out a company of men to guard against the depredations of the Indians whilst the settlers were clearing and cultiva- -ting the land - he belonged to that party engaged in clearing. cultivating the land. and getting in the crops. - whilst at the Fort he aided in raising the crops every sum and in the winter was engaged in hunting - on being asked how long he was in active service, he said "that he could not say could not say that he was in active service one month in each year from the year 1776 to 1781, at which latter period he commenced cultivating his place at the Forks of Cheat as before stated. "It might be that long, and might not" after the war after there closed he done considerable duty as a warrior with the Indians. - Thomas F. Neelan wrote his declaration, he agreed to join Neelan forty dollars. this agreement was made in the country. on going to West of Cheat to have his declaration writed, in conformity with the agreement made with Neelan. he Neelan refused to do the business for less than one hundred dollars. finally however Neelan agreed to take his (Neelan's) first year pay. the contract was closed with Neelan. upon these terms. Neelan received eighty dollars being the first year pay. - in making the first agreement with.

Nealson. he (Haggle) gave his note to Nealson for the twenty dollars - at the second agreement the twenty dollars note was taken up.
The foregoing statement was taken down as dictated by Haggle. and after the same had been read to him particularly. he the said Haggle said it was all right and correctly taken down. Given under my hand this 29 th June 1834.
Nathan Loff
Haggle is an ignorant man, and I understand of good character. He has been imposed upon. I am satisfied that it was not his intention to commit a Perjury.
Respectfully Reputed.
W. G. Singleton Special Agent.