Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 5203, John Hoover, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Hoover, John
R 5203
CONTENTS

State of New York County of Herkimer ss:
On this twenty ninth day of September in the year one thousand eight hundred and thirty eight personally appeared before me Asaphad Doonis First Judge of the County Courts of the County of Herkimer aforesaid the same being Courts of record according to the Constitution and laws of the said State John Hoover a resident of the Town of Manheim in the said County and State aged ninety three years and upwards who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions of the act of Congress entitled "An act
passed June 7. 183
on account of services which he rendered in the service of the United States as a soldier in the war of the revolution; And he the said John Hoover further says that he served as a soldier in the service of the United States in the revolutionary war at the times in the manner under the officers at the several places and the length of time particularly mentioned

described and set forth in the affidavit of Daniel Hadcock hereto annexed and this deponent says that he and the said Daniel Hadcock served together in the revolutionary war as he has detailed set forth such service and this deponent says that he and the said Daniel Hadcock were together at the house of this deponent in Manheim appointed and talked over the services which this deponent performed in the war of the revolution and that they both agreed & resolved that this deponent served as a soldier in said war of the revolution in the service of the United States the length of time & the places under the officers set forth as is particularly mentioned set forth in said affidavit of said Daniel Hadcock and that the said affidavit Daniel Hadcock was drawn by Judge Stull now deceased at the time this deponent talked over with the said Daniel Hadcock the term which this deponent performed in the war of the revolution as aforesaid and that said affidavit is drawn correctly according to the truth and this deponent did serve as a soldier in the United States in the revolutionary war as in said affidavit is mentioned following said affidavit which this deponent adopts as his declaration of his claim to a pension under said act. to wit —

And this deponent hereby adopts and makes the said affidavit of Daniel Hadruck herewith annexed a part of his application for a pension pension under the acts of Congress aforesaid; and this deponent says that the said Daniel Hadruck and Jacob Hoover know that this deponent served as a soldier in the war of the revolution and that he believes he can prove his service by the affidavits of the said Daniel Hadruck hereto annexed and of the said Jacob Hoover to be annexed to this deponent's declaration. And this deponent says that the said Daniel Hadruck is a revolutionary pensioner of the United States as this deponent is informed therein.
And he the said John Hoover hereby declares and says that he is not and never has been a pensioner of the United States and that he hereby relinquishes all claims to any other pension except the pension which he now claims for his services as a soldier of the revolution pursuant to the acts of Congress aforesaid.
John X Hoover mark
Sworn to and subscribed this 29th day of September 1838. Before me the undersigned I further certify that the said John Hoover is evidently in a state of bodily infirmity from his great age.

to be removed from his house -
He was his first child of William County & Member of Congress -

State of N. York
Herkimer County S s
On the 7 th day of February 1838
Personally appeared before me Jacob P. Smith Justice of the Peace in and for the County Aforesaid, Daniel Heathcote a resident of the Town of Lauer County of Madison and State Aforesaid, who was duly sworn according to Law, deposeth and saith that he has been personally acquainted with John Hoover Now a resident in the Town of Marheim County Aforesaid, Previous to the Revolutionary War, at the commencement of the same, during the whole war, to the final termination of the revolution, and to the present day, —
Deponent further saith that himself is aged Eighty Eight years past, and that he was personally acquainted with the said Hoover, from the time they went to school together and always have been near Neighbours together, and again when constrained in leaving their place of residence, when settled near Palatine Church, deponent at Old Holston, and the said Hoover at Daniel M c Dugle, Again near Neighbours, and there continued to reside until after the final termination of the Revolution, when again returned to their former place of residence, Royal Grant, and there continued to reside until about 35 years past, when removed to where he was residing, Town of Lauer Madison County —
deponent further saith, that the said John Hoover a Claimant for a Pension And in order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress, passed 7 th June 1832 deponent says that Claimant was and has been a faithful Revolutionary, Militia Soldier from the commencement of the Revolution, during the continuance of the said War from year to year, until the final termination of the hazardous American struggle
deponent further declares that at the commencement of said War, Claimant did Belong to the Company of Militia commanded by Capt. Lawrence Caprelman, in the then County of Tryon, and in the Reg t commanded by Col. Peter Bellinger, Gen l Nicholas Herkimer Brigade, Although deponent finding it impracticable to recollect the many and numerous tours, and occurrences, which have occurred from year to year, during the War, but endeavouring by selecting some of the most hazardous and arduous tours, from year to year, for and during the whole period of the Revolution as follows viz t
775 deponent says that he is personally known that the said Claimant with himself, and the Company belonging to, often and frequently were ordered out by their Superior Officers in rendering faithful service And that the said deponent saith that Claimant has rendered himself equal

Share of Service when thereunto commanded, that in consequence of the family of the Johnsons, the Inhabitants considerably Alarmed, the Militia often Ordered Out And that Claimant at least according to Claimants knowledge and belief did render the length of two months continuous Service Vgt ————— 2 Months
1776 Deponent further saith, that the 1 st Service rendered by the Militia at the commencement of said year, he believing Ordered Out 'forepart in January the whole Brigade In camp. Under the command of Genl Harkness to Langhenuwaga, there joined Genl Schuyler, With his Brigade, And Under the command of Genl Schuyler and Genl Harkness All marched to Johnson, causing surrender of Genl John Johnson With as many 400. disaffected persons unfriendly to the American Cause for liberty and Independence, 12 Days — deponent further saith that claimant with himself and the whole force Ordered Under Genl Harkness to Harkness With their Arms and Equipments Arising and Spitting in mouth Fort Dayton, Under the chief command and direction of Col Dayton the length of at least 22 days — Vgt ————— 22 days
deponent further saith and declare, that that during the course of this year from Spring Until late in fall, the militia often called Out in consequence of Alarms and the threatening Incursions of the Enemy, Watching and Guarding Against the incursions of the common Enemy, that exclusive of the foregoing mentioned time Claimant at least did render the length of two months and fifteen days — Vgt ————— 2 M. 15 Days
1777 Deponent further saith that Claimant was drafted with himself and Ordered Out under the command of Lieut Hoover to Fort Stanwix there Engaged in shutting up, by eating & falling trees across the Wood Creek, being gone, Immediately before Oriskany Battle Six weeks Vgt ————— 6 Weeks —
d o . 8 th Aug t . — deponent saith and declare that Claimant was Ordered Out with himself And with Lieut Hoover Company and all Genl Harkness Brigade, at the time of Oriskany Battle, deponent says that himself did not see the said soldier Engaged in Battle and the reason Accounted for, deponent was Selected with the flank Guard And Accordingly was on said Guard, but deponent doth say, that he did see the Claimant Advancing before Battle took place, And Again see him returning After the engagement, and doth belief that he actually was Engaged in said Battle, and has no doubt on his mind but that Claimant did conduct And behave himself like a brave and courageous soldier, in rendering the length of twenty one day

Byt ————— 21 days
deponent further saith, that the Militia this year continually were constraint being on the Alert, almost continually stationed at their forts and outposts for the protection of the Inhabitants generally, rendering Garrison duty, often ordered out in consequence of Alarm, frequently sent on Scouts, deponent declares that, Plaintiff at least did render the length of Three months, United States Service exclusive of the foregoing mentioned Specifications, Byt ————— 3 Months
1778 deponent further saith, that this was a Scarcous and distressing year to the Inhabitants then residing in the then County of Tryon, that during said season from the early part in Spring the Militia Generally constraint Being kept on the Alert the following depredations and Occurrences having been committed by the Indians from Canada, first at the time of the Genl Conflagration at Springfield, sometime after part in summer, when the Militia of Col Bellingers Regt was not Ordered out when the Company of Militia Under the command of Capt Hooer, having had more than sufficient protecting their own Forts and habitations, —————
do. deponent further saith, that sometime latter part of September or forepart of October, at the time of the Genl Conflagration, at Herkimer on the North Side of the Mohawk river all around Fort Dayton and some considerable distance west from Fort Dayton and also the same on the South Side of the said river down to Fort Herkimer and around Fort Herkimer, at which date, when both deponent and Plaintiff were Ordered out by Capt Hooer, the length of Eight days, Byt ————— 8 days
do. deponent further saith that at the time of the Genl Conflagration and Massacre at Cherry Valley the Militia Col Bellingers Regt arrived.
do. deponent further saith, that during the said year from the early part in Spring until late in fall Capt Hooer's Company almost continually stationed at Fort Ticonderoga, rendering Garrison duty watching and Guarding, sometimes sent on Scouts spying the Enemy, often and frequently Alarmed, in protecting the Inhabitants, but deponent doth say that exclusive of the foregoing Specifications that Plaintiff has and did render the length of three months & fifteen days, Byt 3 M 15 days United States Service at least
1779. deponent further saith, that at the time of the Genl Conflagration on the South side of the Mohawk river from Fort Herkimer to Ball Hill and all Ball Hill Made desolate, at the same time Andertown all made desolate, about 18 miles South West from Fort Herkimer, when Plaintiff with himself & Capt Hooer's Company were Ordered out to Andertown, gave the length of Service Byt 10 days

de 1780 29. deponent further saith, that Plaintiff at least did render the length of two months and 15 days, United States Service, in rendering Garrison duty, often and frequently called out in consequence of Alarm, in pursuit of the Enemy, sometimes found on route and exclusive of the before mentioned Specifications, that Plaintiff at least did render the length of 2 Months and 15 days United States Service as Aforesaid By 2 M 15 Days
1780. deponent further saith, that in Spring as early as in the month of March the Inhabitants residing in the Royal Grant, all those residing within the lines, or went adjacent to their Asylum or forts, having been constrained to have recourse to their Forts in consequence of the threatening incursions, by the Indians, their coming from Canada on their Shores when as early as in the latter Part of February, or forepart in March, not less than fourteen Prisoners were taken all out of the line or company then under the command of Lieut Jacob C. Klock from the year 1776. Commanded by Capt Henry Hooper, Untill the Augt 1777 when Capt Hooper was taken Prisoner At Oriskany Battle, after which time, Lieut Klock succeeded taking the command as Capt Johann F. A. Becker from the commencement of the Revolution being the Orderly Sergeant in Capt Hooper's Company, he acting as 1st Lieut from and after the 8th Augt 1777, that as Aforesaid that either latter part of February, or forepart in March Lieut Jacob C. Klock, Capt John Keyser with two of his sons, John Gorter, Henry Shaffer, Jacobus Van Slyke, John Windecker, George Batte, Jacob Youker, Martin Van Slyke, & two young sons of Malleyer, and one other whose name deponent do not recollect all having been taken Prisoners to Canada, when part of Lieut Klock's Company were stationed at Fort Klock and continued in rendering Garrison duty, for at least the length of 15 days when suddenly after all left their habitations, removing out of the Place down there to near Palatine Church, viz first to Daniel M c Dugle & there and at Fort Hop continued, for and during the remainder part of said Revolutionary War, that the said John Hooper did belong to the Company of Militia Commanded by Capt John Hop. and deponent says, that he is well known that the said Plaintiff did render United States service, from the time of his removal from the Grant, down to the Mohawk, and there continued in Fort Hop often stationed there rendering Garrison duty, often and frequently called out in consequence of Alarm, sometimes pursuing

1781 deponent, further saith, that from the early part in Spring, until late in fall continually alarmed watching and rendering Garrison duty, and late in fall in pursuit of Maj r Robt after Johnstown Battle on the 25 th Oct r . that the said Claimant under Col l Kirtland did in pursuit of Maj r Robt & Battle in march under the command to the West Canada Creek where and when Battle got the that during that season say from May until Battle & others were killed that Claimant at least did render the length of three months United States Service. Byt - - - - - 3 Months
1782 deponent further saith that the Militia this year continually had to be on the alert in consequence the Indians continually skulking and lurking around the Old settlements many and frequent occurrences have presented itself, during said season, from the early part in Spring summer and fall, the Militia continually more especially, in that part of the Town of Palatine where the claimant has moved into, continually alarmed watching and guarding in rendering Garrison duty at Fort Def. often called out in consequence of frequent alarms, sometimes ordered out in Skying the Enemy. personally known that claimant has been an Enterprising Soldier during the war, and that he always was willing to do his full share of duty whenever found expedient, and that said Regiment at least did render the benefit of three months service to the United States in said year. Bight ————— 3 1/2 to 4
Sworn to, and subscribed on the 7 th day of February 1838 before me _____
San Antonio This X then back creek
Jacob Powell
State of N. York
Herkimer County S S - This may certify that I Jacob Powell a Justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid, have been personally acquainted with Daniel Heotheneck, now a resident of the Town of Lyndon, County of Madison, and State of N. York, (Yoreraid), for several years past, and that during the Revolutionary War, he hath resided, in the County of Lygon, as he saith and verily

Belief to be true,
And I further , I further certify that the said witness who has subscribed his name, and sworn to the foregoing Affidavit, is a person of truth as far as has come within my observation, I say of Truth and Veracity and his Testimony Entitled to full credit, And further saith that he never did learn to write that he always signifies his name, by making his crop mark, which was
Given from under my hand this 25 th day of December 1838
Sarah Power Austin Penn

State of New York County of Herkimer ss. On this day of
December 1838 before me
a _____ in and for the County of Herkimer aforesaid personally appeared Jacob Hoover of the Town of Little Falls in said County & State aged seventy seven years and upwards, who being keynote duly sworn according to law doth depose and say that John Hoover of the Town of Manheim in said County is the brother of this deponent and they have always lived near each other and this deponent further says the said John Hoover was old enough at the commencement of the revolutionary war to do military duty but this deponent being younger did not do military duty till sometime after the war began that the said John Hoover was frequently during the war called away to go into the service & was frequently gone from home and as this deponent believes was engaged in the service of the United States; and this deponent being young at the time cannot recall all the times the said John Hoover was gone - This deponent recalls that the said John Hoover in 1776 left home to go into the service and was gone as this deponent believes from fifteen to thirty days perhaps longer and at that time this deponent under- stood & believes that the said John Hoover was in the service; and this deponent says that he remembers well the Briskam battle and that the said John Hoover was gone into the service before that time swear as this deponent always understood

and believes in that battle and he was absent from home sometime during that period and this deponent does not recollect how long but he believes that said John Hoosen was gone a month at least and this deponent's belief is that it was between one and two months which is the nearest he can state it; that in 1778 the said John Hoosen was called out frequently to go into the service & was absent very often and gone a short time or few days & then came home; this deponent does not recollect how long he was gone at any one time but it was not less than a few days and this deponent thinks that the whole time he went out in that year was as much as two months but he would not be certain about it; it is his belief that the different times the said John was out in 1778 would be about two months in the whole - In 1779 the said John Hoosen was called out very often & gone a few days at a time very much as he was the year before & he should think he was gone in the whole as long as two months but might have been longer - In 1780 this deponent was in battle with the said John Hoosen near Stone Church Palatine under the command of Van Rensselaer and they were out at that time a number of days & the said John Hoosen was gone at that time & deponent should say that John Hoosen was gone in the whole over a month and it might be six weeks - In 1781 the said John Hoosen was stationed

at Fort House and up in Kintyre I was gone according to this deponent's recollection a week or more at a time John Hooke was at Dillibough and rendered service at other times of year & was gone some considerable time during that year and deponent says that said John Hooke was gone in the whole about two months if not more and in 1782 said John Hooke was in present of Robt Butler and was gone over a week before he came back and he was absent from home a good deal of the time and deponent believes that in all he might have been absent half of the time & should say he was gone six months  weeks or thereabouts in that year and deponent says that the absent is his best recollection he believes it to be correct except that it is probable that the said John Hooke served longer than this deponent states in each year that this deponent candidly recollects that the said John Hooke was gone frequently in each year but he cannot say exactly how long and as has above stated his best recollection the length of time his  he subscribed & sworn Jacob X Hooke to this 21st day of Mark December 1836
before me Solomon Pitcairn Commr of Pleds
I certify that I am well acquainted with Jacob Hooke who made oath to the foregoing affidavit before me and he sustains a good character for truth & veracity this statement in the said

34.689 In the matter of the Pension claim of John Hoover
5203
Hon. Adonis MR

affidavit is entitled to full credit Dated Decr 27 th 1838
Solomon Petrie Commissioner of Deeds }
St. Lawrence County p:
I hereby certify that Jacob Powell Esq. is a Justice of the Peace & that Solomon Petrie Esq. is a Commissioner of Deeds &c & that Stephen Loomis Esq. that is a Judge of the St. Lawrence County Courts and that they are severally duly commis- sioned and qualified and reside in the said County of St. Lawrence - And that I am well acquainted with their sev- eral hands & writings & hereby believe that the within signatures purporting to be theirs are genuine - Witness my hand & seal of said County Decr. 27, 1838.
E. J. Mearon Deputy Clerk for John Deygert

March 22, 1937.
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Mrs. Florence S. Whelan Box 323 Rustis, Florida
Bl-I/adj John Hoover R.5203
Dear Madam:
The data contained herein were obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, R.5203, based upon the military service of John Hoover in that war.
The date and place of birth and the names of the parents of John Hoover are not shown.
He applied for pension September 29, 1833, while a resident of Manheim, Herkimer County, New York, and aged ninety-three years "and upwards". He stated that he served two to three months every year from 1775 to 1782 inclusive, in the Tryon County New York Militia as private under Captains Severence Casselman, Henry Hoover, no relationship stated, Jacob G. Klock, John Hesse, Colonels Peter Bellinger, Klock and Willett and that he was in the battle of Oriskany and in the battle near the Stone Church, Palatine, New York, under the command of Van Rensselaer.
His claim was not allowed as he did not furnish proof of his service as required by the pension laws.
One Daniel Haddock, or Heathcock, of Madison County, New York, February 7, 1833, stated that "he has been personally acquainted with John Hoover who is a resident in the Town of Manheim, county aforesaid (Herkimer where he made the affidavit) previous to the Revolutionary War, at the commencement of the same, during the whole war, to the final termination of the Revolution, and to this present day", —also, "from the time they went to school together and always have been near neighbors together, and again when constraint in leaving their

place of residence, when settled near Palatine Church, deponent (Haddock or Heathcock) at Old Helmer's and the said Hoover at Daniel McDugle's, again near neighbors and there continued to reside until after the final termination of the Revolution, when again returned to their former place of residence, Royal Grant's.
In 1838 Jacob Hoover, a brother of the soldier, was a resident of Little Falls, Herkimer County, New York, and aged seventy-seven years "and upwards". There are no further family data.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
5203
P. O. _____
John Hoover
Service: _____
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18
1934 Dec. 19. Visit to Mrs. E. B. Murphy's. a.w.y. 1937 Mar. 22. Visit to Mrs. Florence R. W. McLan. a.w.y.

N. Galt John Brown Residence of
$263
Act June 7. 1872

Washington N. R. Jan'y 3. 1839 -
Sir -
I enclose the pension application of John Hoover. He is old & infirm - of good repute & honest - he lives in my neighborhood -
Yours &c Howard
Hon J. L. Edwards

War Department Pension Office
23 Jan 1839
Sir The pension of Henry John Hoorn an applicant for a pension under the act of June 7 th 1832 has been examined and filed - It is alleged that the claimant served from 1775 until the latter part of the year 1782 but in what grade does not appear, that he belonged to Capt Henry Hoovers company Col Bellingers regt. &c. There is no evidence in the Department, that a Captain of that name belonged to the regt. during the war - The claimant is required to produce a Certificate from the Secretary of State of New York that Capt Hoorn was duly appointed a Captain in Col Bellingers regt. and to specify the duration of each term of actual service, in the manner prescribed in the regulations of the Department, a printed copy of which is herewith enclosed
J. A. Loonis House Reps N.Y.

Indianapolis Ind November 23
Dear Sir
I want to give the H.R.R. my Grandmother Sophia Bell was the wife of a Revolutionary soldier. she drew a pension I think her husband's name was Nicholas Bell he served in the Penn County militia under Gen Harkness
I have another Revolutionary ancestor John Hoover who served in York County militia. 11th Regiment under Colonel Frederick Wischer.
Please send certified copy of the services of these two ancestors if you find it.
I sincerely Yours Emma Hoover Indianapolis Ind
Don't know what else

aw Record Division.
3-1886
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS
WASHINGTON
November 17, 1911.
Mrs. Emma J. Crim, Jordanville, N. Y.
Madam:
In response to your letter dated the 14 th and received the 16 th instant, you are advised that this Bureau is unable to furnish the record of a soldier of the Revolution, unless a claim has been filed on account of his services, and in order to identify such a case, in addition to the soldier's full name, some of the following data is essential: names of some officers under whom he served, places of residence at enlistment and after discharge, approximate dates of birth and death, given name of widow.
Very respectfully,
J. Wamp Commissioner.
Jacob Vorer served in the Tryon County militia First Regiment, under Colonel Samuel Glyde. Place of enlistment German Falls. Wife's name Catherine Crim. John Vorer served in the Tryon County militia over

Third Regiment. under Colonel Vriesche Place of enlistment German Flats or Little Falls.
Died about 1790 born about 1760
His daughter name was Elizabeth Do not know his wife's name
He was at the battle of Bunker Hill
Sister Anna J. Corinne Jordanville N.Y.

94 Winthrop Ave., Albany, N.Y., Dec. 1, 1934. Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions.
Dear Sirs:
I am anxious to get such Revolutionary War and pension data as are available for the following of my ancestors or possible ancestors:
✓ 1. Johannes Schulteis (John Shults) of Palatine (Stone Arabia) son of Johannes Schulteis, a Palatine emigrant.
born died before 1783. widow Magdalena said to have been at and possibly killed at Oriskany, was in French & Indian War.
✓ 2. John J. Shults - son of above Johannes Schulteis
born died about 1830 - 1835 at Stone Arabia, town of Palatine at Oriskany; many more battles prisoner in Canada with 2 brothers, Henry & William 2d wife - Margareth (Elizabeth)
over 3. Lieut. Col. Peter Melon (Mullen, Mc Mullen) son of Peter Melon of Dublin, Ireland. born Dublin, Ireland
died at Stone Arabia, N.Y. after 1800, perhaps much later. led party up Mohawk Valley to Fort Stanwix just before its investment. Was of Weston's regiment. Was in fort with Kane and Willett. Mentioned in Benton's History of Herkimer Co., Stone's Life of Gen. Brant, and Simms's Frontiersmen of N.Y. in this connection. Said also to have been in Light Horse and on Washington's staff, so may be from Conn. or Mass. or Virginia instead of N.Y. married Mary Hoover of Stone Arabia, N.Y.
(over) (Mrs. E. B. Higby) Florence Webster Higby.

94 Winthrop Ave., Albany, N.Y., Dec. 1, 1934. Dept. of Interior, etc. (continued)
1. John Hoover born Germany died after 1838 at Mannheim, N.Y. ? Capt. in Revolution; other services. married Charity Crim wood wife may have been Mary Hoover's father.
5. Any other Revolutionary Hoover of N.Y. State, particularly of Stone Arabia. Mary Hoover's father lived there & home burned in Butler's raid 1780.
6. } Porter born died lived at Coldbrook River, Conn. served in Revolution daughter Anna married Otis (or Oliver) Long who furnished iron for Potomac Bridge and never was paid.

Box 323
Eustis, Florida,
March 14, 1937.
Mr. A. D. Hiller,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:-
Yours of March 5th. at hand;
I would like very much to adopt your suggestion and go home by the way of Washington and search those records myself, but I am acting as companion for my father and he does not want to go that way, so that settles it. I very much wish that I might do so.
conv. rec or upfl The record which I am choosing to have you give me is that of Benjamin Ackley, of East Haddam, Conn.
If I could tell which John Hoover I would prefer that one, but there are so many that I cannot tell which one is mine. My John Hoover was at Romulus, Seneca Co., N. Y. Dec. 27, 1808, and his wife was probably Mary, but that is all I know.
If it is not too much trouble I would like to have you return the data I sent you. If I should get a chance some time to go to Washington, that would be convenient to use. If that is against your rules it is O.K. with me.
Very truly yours,
Florence S. Whelan.
(Mrs.) Florence S. Whelan.

December 19, 1934.
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Mrs. E. B. Hight 94 Winthrop Avenue Albany, New York
BA-J/ady John Hoover R.5203
Dear Madam:
The data contained herein are obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, R.5203, based upon the military service of John Hoover in that war.
The date and place of birth and the names of the parents of John Hoover are not shown.
He applied for pension September 29, 1838 while a resident of Manheim, Herkimer County, New York, and aged ninety-three years "and upwards". He stated that he served two to three months every year from 1775 to 1782 inclusive, in the Tryon County New York Militia as private under Captains Severance Casselman, Henry Hoover, no relationship stated, Jacob G. Klock, John Hesse, Colonels Peter Ballinger, Klock and Willett and that he was in the battle of Oriskany and in the battle near the Stone Church, Palatine, New York, under the command of Van Rensselaer.
His claim was not allowed as he did not furnish proof of his service as required by the pension laws.
In 1838 Jacob Hoover a brother of the soldier was a resident of Little Falls, Herkimer County, New York, and aged seventy-seven years "and upwards". There are no further family data.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

December 19, 1934.
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BA-J/acy
Mrs. E. B. Higby 94 Winthrop Avenue Albany, New York
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter relative to Johannes (John) J. Schultheis or Shults, Peter I. Nelson or Mullen or McMullen, John Hoover and soldiers with surname Hoover and Porter, all of the Revolutionary War.
Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims made to the United States for pension and bounty land based upon military service of soldiers in that war.
A careful search of the records fails to show such a claim on file on account of the services of John Shults as described by you, or John J. Shults or John Schultheis, Peter I. Nelson, Peter Nelson or Mullen or McMullen, all spellings of the names searched.
As a means of identifying the records of soldiers of the Revolutionary War with surnames Hoover and Porter, the full names of the soldiers are essential with as much as possible of the following data in regard to each: approximate dates of birth and death, places of residence at enlistment and after service and given name of widow.
The record of the only John Hoover who served from New York that is found on the Revolutionary War records of this office is furnished you herewith as found in the claim for pension based upon service in the Revolutionary War.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Division.
December 6, 1911.
Miss Erma J. Cram. Jordanville, N. Y.
Madam:
In response to your undated letter received the 4 th instant, you are advised that from the papers in the claim of the only John Hoover of New York found on the Revolutionary War pension records, it appears that John Hoover, R. File No. 5,203, applied for pension September 29, 1838, at which time he was 93 years of age and a resident of Marheim, New York.
It is alleged that he served two or three months every year from 1775 to 1782, inclusive, as a Private under Captains Severence Casselman, Henry Brown, Jacob C. Klock, John Hess; Colonels Peter Bellinger, Klock and Willett, in the Tryon County Home Guard militia, and that he was in the battle of Oriskany and battle near the Stone Church, Palatine, New York.
This claim however was never allowed, for the reason that claimant failed to furnish satisfactory proof of six months service as required by the Act of June 7, 1832, under which he applied.
In an affidavit executed December 21, 1838, Jacob Hoover of Little Falls, New York, aged seventy-seven years, testified

R. File No. 5,203, --2
that the above John Heever was his brother, and that he served with him in 1780, in the battle near Stone Church, Palatine, under the command of Van Renssalaer for a number of days.
There is no claim on file for Jacob Heever, and no other service alleged by him.
The Revolutionary War pension records fail to afford any information in regard to Nicholas and Dorothy Bell.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

March 22, 1937.
Mrs. Florence S. Whelan Box 335 Bartic, Florida.
RECORDED INDEXED SERIALIZED FILED MAR 23 1937
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Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter on March 14, in which you state that you cannot return to Michigan via this city and do research here, and in which you designate John Hoover of New York State and Benjamin Ashkey of East Haddam, Connecticut, the two soldiers in whom you are most interested.
There is no claim for pension on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of a Benjamin Ashkey who served in the Connecticut troops or who applied for pension from that state, and one record only of a John Hoover who served from New York and applied for pension from that state. His record is furnished you herewith.
Your letters of February 27 and February 28, 1937, are enclosed herewith as requested.
Very truly yours,
A. B. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.
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