Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 10,768, Peter Groat, New York

SERVICE
New York.
Groat, Peter
NUMBER
S. 10,768
CONTENTS
carded

New York 14526
Peter Groat
Columbia in the State of NY. who was a private in the Com- commanded by Captain Philips of the N.Y. commanded Col Arnold in the NY. time for 14 Months 22 days
Inscribed on the Roll of NY the rate of 49 - Dollars 8 - Cents per annum to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 28- day of May - 1830. and sent to Martin Van Deusen - Chatham Columbia
Arrears to the 14th of March 1833. $ 98 16 2/3 Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Sep 1833 24 54
$122 70
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by George Taylor Clerk Book C Vol. 4 Page 57.

Date of death not on A.B.
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In the Matter of Peter Groot an affidavit for a pension
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State of New York - Columbia County ss
On this third day of December personally appeared before me Tobias L. Hogboom a Judge of the Common Pleas in and for the County aforesaid Peter Groat a Resident of Chatham in the said County of Columbia and State aforesaid aged Seventy nine years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his Oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated -
This Applicant with the whole company in which he was enrolled was called out in the month of January 1776 on the 15 th day of that month to go to Johnstown for the purpose of taking in John Johnson - Marched from Claverack in said County to Albany thence to and through the City of Schenectady from thence up the Mohawk to Johnstown - was kept on duty there three weeks and was discharged - (Sir Johnson having been taken and put on parol) This applicant with the rest of his company then returned home, General Schuyler commanded the company in which this Applicant was enrolled was commanded by Captain Jacob Philips. and Lieutenant Jeremy Miller - George Philips Indign - Simon New was Sergeant -
This Applicant further states that he was drafted to go to Exeter on the northeastern extremity of the State of Massachusetts in the fall of the year 1776 cannot recollect the precise time of the fall, thinks the month of September was marched to Boston from thence to Exeter, was kept

on duty there six weeks and was discharged. William Von Kimpelman was quarter master and Jeremy Miller Lieutenant as this declarant best recollects remembers no other officers - went to take some prisoners there, they had no officers - This officer further states that he was drafted in the month of June 1777 thinks about the middle of the month) to go to Stillwater up the north river was kept on duty there and about that place till the month of October - about the middle of that month when he returned home with the company to which he belonged. This officer was at the battle of Still- water but was not in the principal engagement. Jacob Philips was Captain at this time but this declarant cannot tell whether he was the commander of his company on this campaign or not. Benedict Arnold was a general commander at this battle - recollects no other except General Gates - was on duty at this time four months -
This officer was again called out to go to Schenectady in the month of September in the year 1779 to guard that place from the Indians and Tories. Marched up there through Albany - was kept on duty one month and was discharged. Jeremy Miller was Lieutenant commander on this expedition -
This officer was again called out and volunteered his services to go to Tryon County in the early part of the fall of 1784 to resist the forces under Brant and Butler. Marched through Albany and Schenectady to Canajoharry where they had a battle with the Indians and Tories - drove them - followed them to the Unadilla River and returned home the same way - was on duty this time five weeks. Jeremy Miller was Lieutenant commander (and Jacob Philips left - remained at home) - George Philips was acting Ensign on this campaign -

2 In the year 1779 this applicant with 8 or 10 of the Company was called out by the officers commanding to go to Albany to guard sixteen or seventeen Tories who were put in Jail in the City of Albany - Captain Abraham Londa commanded this champaign - was on duty two weeks and discharged - This applicant further States that at times other than those periods above mentioned he was ordered out on duty on sudden incursions of the Enemy - to resist the Tories, and protect the inhabitants from the innumerable depredations committed by British Indians and Tories - for a guard of protection more or less through the war frequently for two days - a week - and fortnight the exact time of each of which, this applicant cannot now recollect but is positive that at such times he was on duty in the aggregate at least six months -
During the time of service in which this applicant was engaged he was a Soldier - Enrolled when at home in the Claverack Regiment -
This Deponent further declares and makes oath that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory he cannot recollect the names of all the officers under whom he served nor the exact period of service but according to his best recollections he served not up than the periods mentioned in the above several statements - the whole amount of which time is fourteen months and twenty two days. This Declarant further declares that the reason why he has not obtained a Clergymans Certificate is that there is none in his vicinity and he knows of no one whose Certificate he can procure

answer to the interrogatories
1st. This Applicant was born in the Town of Claverack County aforesaid in the year 1753.
2d He has no record of his age.
3d When called into service this applicant lived in then Albany County Columbia County, town of Claverack where he has resided all his lifetime except about three years which time he had in the adjoining town of Chatham where he now resides.
4th Was called into service as a Militia Man and was drafted up on the tour to Schenectady when he was a volunteer.
5th Some of the Regular Officers who were with the Troops when he served were General Gates and Arnold - General Schuyler but this applicant cannot now recollect any other Officers of the Regular Army under whom he served. He cannot recollect the names of any Regiments except Claverack and Kinderhook Regiments - the general circumstances of his service are that he was on duty to Johnstown - to Esopus - was on the campaign to Stillwater - to Schenectady - to Canajoharie - to Albany - and in numerous other tours of duty more or less at intervals through the whole war.
6th Cannot recollect of ever having taken a written discharge from service.
7th The names of persons to whom he is known in his present neighborhood and who can testify as to his character for truth and veracity and their belief as to his services as a soldier of the Revolution are William Rike Alexander Scamptons

This Declarant further States that he has no documentary evidence and knows of no person who can testify to his service - whose testimony he can procure - except William Pike whose affidavit is hereto annexed -
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State - The persons to whom he is known and who can testify as to the common report of his revolutionary services and his character for truth and veracity are William Pike and Alexander Bempston
Sworn before me 3 rd day of December 1832 - Tobias D. Dobbins Judge of Said County
Peter Groot
We William Pike and Alexander Bempston
do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with the within named applicant who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be seventy-nine years of age - that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn before me 3 rd day of December 1832 - Tobias D. Dobbins Judge of Said County
William X Pike { Martin Vanderkinderen witness
And I the aforesaid Judge do hereby certify and declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant Peter Groot was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states And I do further certify that it appears to me that the above named persons who have subscribed and sworn to the above Certificate are residents of Chatham County of Columbia and that their statement is entitled to credit - on account of bodily infirmity the applicant is not able to attend court - Tobias D. Dobbins Judge of the aforesaid County

Columbia County ss
William Pike of the town of Ghent County aforesaid being sworn doth on his oath say that he has heard read the Declaration of Peter Groat hereto annexed and that the several statements of different Charges as set forth in said Declaration are true that this Deponent was with the said Peter Groat and saw him on duty during the several tours of duty set forth in said Declaration except the expedition to Exeter but it was commonly reported at the time of that expedition to wit in the fall of 1776 the latter part of that fall that the above mentioned Peter Groat who has subscribed and sworn to the above Declaration was one of those soldiers who went to Boston and Exeter - That this Deponent soon after the said Peter Groat returned from Exeter he heard him relate the facts as here set forth concerning the said expedition to Exeter - That this Deponent is 76 years of age and was a revolutionary soldier
William X Pike mark
Sworn before me 3 rd day of Dec 1832
Tobias L. Hogeboom Judge of Said County
M. Van Dusen Witness
State of New York } Columbia County } I Joseph D. Monda Clerk of the said County do hereby certify that Tobias L. Hogeboom Esq. before whom the above Affidavit purports to have been sworn was at the date of the same one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the said County And that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Judge and verily believe that his name subscribed to the said Affidavit to be his proper hand writing and signature Witness my hand and Seal of Office this tenth day of December 1832 - J. D. Monda

Your address to Martin VanDusen, Chatham & Co., Columbia Co. N.Y.

20378
Peter Groat Columbia county New York
Mr. Hall - no. 1140
Martin Van Dusen Chatham Columbia co NY.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Peter Groat, Columbia co NY.
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1776 21 private Capt. Philip Schuyler General Schuyler Clarendon Albany Schenectady 79 Columbia Co NY tradition   Drafted 1 12 Baton Rater   do. 1777 4 Capt. Philip Schuyler Genl. Arnold Bull Run Langhans Schenectady Witnesses proves service of applicant as set forth.   1779 1 Lieut. Miller Niagara   1781 1 5 do   14   Various times estimated at least 6  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
Mr. Bell - no roll

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers; the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
J. G. Bradburn

August 13, 1930
Rev.& 1812 Wars Section AWF:MLB
Mrs. N. I. Hyatt 140 Avant Street Spartanburg, South Carolina
Dear Madam:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 10768, that Peter Groat was born in 1753, in Claverack, New York.
While residing there, he served with the New York troops, as follows:
From January 15, 1776, three weeks, in Captain Jacob Phillips' Company, and marched to Johnstown, against Sir John Johnson; in the fall of 1776, six weeks under Lieutenant Jeremy Muller; from in June, 1777, until in October, 1777, in Captain Jacob Phillips' Company and was in a skirmish at Stillwater; from in September, 1779, one month under Lieutenant Jeremy Muller, as a guard at Schenectady; in 1779, two weeks under Captain Abraham Fonda, guarding prisoners in jail at Albany; in the fall of 1781, five weeks under Lieutenant Jeremy Muller, and was in an engagement with the Indians at Canajoharie. He also served on various alarms until the close of the war, all of his services amounting to about fourteen months and twenty-two days.
He was allowed pension on his application executed December 3, 1832, at which time he was living in Chatham, Columbia County, New York.
There are no data as to his family.
The above noted is the history of the only Peter Groat found on the Revolutionary War records of this bureau, searched under all spellings of the name.
Very truly yours
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner

Lafayette, Indiana Nov. 1, '95.
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C., Sir,
Information concerning the Revolutionary services of Peter Groat , of New York State, is greatly desired.
He was born in Holland in 1749, and died in Four Corners (now Chatham) Columbia Co., N.Y. in 1843.
Tradition says that he received a pension from the General Government.
His wife's name was Mary.
My wife is his great-great-grand-daughter, and this information is desired for use in a family and military history.
Very respectfully, R. S. Hatcher

General acct.-off. (Mr. Manning) reported July 7, 1939, by telephone, that this soldier, Peter Groat, stated Sept. 13, 1843, that he then was a resident of Kent, N.Y. where he had lived for six yrs. prior to which he lived in Chatham, N.Y. At that time, (1843) he gave a Power of Atty., to his son, Peter Groat, Jr., relating to pension payments. Date of death of soldier not shown, and no payment of pen. after Sept. 13, 1843.
MVB

July 7, 1939
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Honorable David I. Walsh United States Senate Washington, D. C.
PETER GROAT S. 10768 BA-J/MSHF:MLB
My dear Senator:
Reference is made to your letter of June 30, in behalf of Mr. B. F. Groat, of 9747 Shore Road, Brooklyn, New York, whose letter you enclosed, and who desires to ascertain why the name of Peter Groat, Revolutionary War pensioner, who was living in 1843, is not borne on the list of pensioners in the "Census of Pensioners of 1840."
No definite statement can be made in response to Mr. Groat's request. The compilation referred to by Mr. Groat was made from the reports of the marshals of the various judicial districts under the Act for taking the Sixth Census and, of course, the name of some one pensioner could have been inadvertently omitted in preparing the reports or, in the process of printing those reports, a name could have been overlooked.
Mr. Groat's letter is returned herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

United States Senate
COMMITTEE ON NAVAL AFFAIRS
June 30, 1939
Respectfully referred to
Administrator of Veterans Affairs, Veterans
Administration, Washington
with thanks for such favorable consideration as the communication herewith submitted warrants, and for a report thereon, to accompany return of enclosure.
By direction of
David I. Walsh
Handwritten mark

August 14, 1935
Honorable David I. Walsh United States Senate Washington, D. C.
PETER GROOT S. 10768 BA-J/MGF:MLB
My dear Senator:
Reference is made to your letter of August 7, 1935, in behalf of Mr. B. F. Groot, 20 Chapel Street, Brookline, Massachusetts, whose letter of August 3, you enclosed.
Mr. Groot's reference is to your letter of July 31, 1935, Peter Groot, S. 10768, BA-J/MGF.
Your letter of July 31, to which Mr. Groot refers, possibly included a recent report from some other Department on military service, and his reference, Peter Groot, S. 10768, etc., pertains to the report furnished you in his behalf from this office, April 15, 1935, in regard to that soldier, as the Revolutionary War files show that a very exhaustive search was made of the pension and bounty land records, August 3, and a report furnished you on that date, which was subsequent to Mr. Groot's letter of August 3. These claims which have been made to the United States are the source of Revolutionary War data furnished by this office.
It is regretted that this office has no further data to aid Mr. Groot in his research on this subject.
The genealogical chart and letter of Mr. Groot are returned herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator
did not find any data in War Dept. on it Mrs. Groot
(over)

Our letter of Aug 5 - had not been rec'd by B. F. Groot thru Hon D. F. H. - when he wrote Aug 3 - I in the last referred to he quoted an year cl. of Peter Groot & designated him senior & stated the he must not be confused with Petrus Groot a Groot referred to in Pearson's "Pohenetaad" - pages 80-82 (which that is) who was found alive 30 yrs. after Feb - 7 Oriskany in which he was supposed to have died - & made a genealogy I searched. I found one in said book but did not find so I dated Oct 2 Aug 5 - 1935
It is requested that the office have no further date to all Groot in his research on this subject. The genealogical chart and letter of Mr. Groot are returned herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator
10/2/35

United States Senate
August 7, 1935
Respectfully referred to
Mr. A. D. Hiller, Administration of Veterans' Affairs
with thanks for such favorable consideration as the communication herewith submitted warrants, and for a report thereon, to accompany return of inclosure.
By direction of
U. S. S.
9-2479

VETERANS ADMINISTRATION
WASHINGTON
August 5, 1935
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EL-J/REL
Peter Groat-S.10786
Honorable David I. Walsh United States Senate Washington, D.C.
My dear Senator:
Reference is made to your letter of July 31, in behalf of Mr. B.F.Groat, 20 Chapel Street, Brookline, Massachusetts, whose letter you enclosed. It is noted that Mr. Groat desires information in regard to a soldier with surname Groat, possibly Peter, who was engaged in the battle of Oriskany, Revolutionary War.
There is one pension claim, only, on file based upon service of a Peter Groat. Mr Groat made inquiry through your office in April, 1935, in regard to the date of death and last payment of pension of that soldier, to which reply was made April 15, by this office. The papers in his claim for pension(S.10786) have been examined; it is not stated therein that said Peter Groat was present at the battle of Oriskany.
Further search of the records has been made and no claim for pension found based upon service of any soldier with the surname Groat in which it is shown that the soldier served in the battle of Oriskany. The search was made under various spellings; Groat, Broot, Grots, Grent, De Groat, etc.
The letter of Mr. Groat is returned herewith.
Very truly yours
A. B. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

April 15, 1935
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Peter Groat, S. 10768 BA-J/MCS
Honorable David I. Walsh United States Senate Washington, D.C.
My dear Senator:
Reference is made to your letter of April 12, 1935, requesting information in regard to a Revolutionary War soldier, Peter Groat, which information is desired by Mr. B. F. Groat of 20 Chappel Street, Brookline, Massachusetts.
The papers on file in the pension claim, S. 10768, based upon the military service of Peter Groat, a Revolutionary War pensioner from Columbia County, New York, do not give the date of death of this soldier.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension of this soldier, the name and address of the person to whom it was paid, and possibly the date of the soldier's death, it is suggested that you address the Comptroller General, Records Division, General Accounting Office, Washington, D.C., citing the following data: Peter Groat, Certificate 14526, issued May 28, 1833, rate $49.08 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, New York Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILGER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

DAVID I. WALSH, MASS., CHAIRMAN ROYAL S. COPELAND, N. Y. WILLIAM E. BORAH, IDAHO PAUL TRANMELL, FLA. JESSE H. METCALF, R. I. HUGH L. BLACK, ALA. ROBERT M. LA FOLLETTE, JR., WIS. LOUIS MURPHY, IOWA JAMES J. DAVIS, PA. ELBERT D. THOMAS, UTAH JAMES E. MURRAY, MONT. VIC DONAHEY, OHIO RICHARD D. HOLT, W. VA.
JAMES T. CLARK, CLERK
United States Senate
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR
July 31, 1935
Peter Groat, S. 10768 BA-J/MCS
Mr. A. D. Hiller Executive Assistant to Administrator of Veterans' Affairs Washington, D. C.
My dear Mr. Hiller:
I am enclosing letter from E. F. Groat, 20 Chapel Street, Brookline, Massachusetts, and shall appreciate your furnishing him, if possible, with the information he requests therein.
If this request does not come within the cognizance of your department, I shall appreciate your forwarding it to the bureau having jurisdiction in the matter.
Sincerely yours,
David I. Walsh
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DAVID I. WALSH, MASS., CHAIRMAN ROYAL S. COPELAND, N. Y. WILLIAM E. BORAH, IDAHO PARK TRAMMELL, FLA. JESSE H. METCALF, R. I. HUGO L. BLACK, ALA. ROBERT M. LA FOLLETTE, JR., WIS. LOUIS MURPHY, IOWA JAMES J. DAVIS, PA. ELBERT D. THOMAS, UTAH JAMES E. MURRAY, MONT. W. C. DONAHEY, OHIO
JAMES T. CLARK, CLERK
United States Senate
COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION AND LABOR
April 12, 1935
General Frank T. Hines Administrator of Veterans' Affairs Washington, D. C.
My dear General Hines:
I am enclosing communication from Mr. B. F. Groat, 20 Chappel Street, Brookline, Massachusetts, relative to his great grandfather, Peter Groat, who served in the Revolutionary War.
I shall appreciate your furnishing me with the information he requests therein.
Sincerely yours,
Frank T. Hines
Wanted the pension from Columbia Co., N.Y.

July 5 - 1930. Department of the Interior.
Mr. S. W. Morgan.
Dear Sir.
Kindly give me the Rev. War record of Peter only Groot or Groot of Schenectady N.Y. &c fought in the battle of Herkimer I understand. I would also like to know if the Rev. Soldier Nathaniel 1812-1814 Fitch - is listed in

the soldiers of 1812 -
I understand he fought in the War of 1812. but have no record; as would officials having it.
Thanking you Sam.
Cordially -
(Mrs. N. S.) Ethel Embury Hyatt. 140 - Arant St.
Spartanburg
S. C.

Rev War
10768 INVALID.
File No. 10768
Peter Groat Rev War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. A , Page 152
[Arrangement of 1870.]

1892 Dec 14
Papers copied by B. J. Hatcher Lafayette Ind.
Apr 796 Sold pencil to Missa E. Groat J. B.
Hudson NY 1930 - Aug. 13 - Irish to Mrs. N. J. Wyatt
1935 Apr. 15 Hon. David D. Walsh inf. rel. to obtaining date of soldier's death.
1935 - Aug 5 - Ad. Senator David D. Walsh that for B. T. Groat had been ad. in April 1935. rel. to obtaining date of death of sol. m. m. T. / rel.

1938- Aug 14 Hon. D. J. Walsh adu for B. F. Groot - no further date 1939- July 7- Hon. D. J. Walsh inform in behalf of B. F. Groot, cause of omission of solo. name for 1840 Census printed in 1841, no known - MVB