Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 41621, John Hall, N.C.

SERVICE
N.6.
Wall, John
NUMBER
S. 41621
CONTENTS

19971
North Carolina
John Hall
of Montgomery Co in the State of N. Carolina who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Dickson - of the Regiment commanded by Colonel Little - in the N. Carolina line, for the term of one year from April 1781 to April 1782
Inscribed on the Roll of North Carolina at the rate of eight Dollars per month, commence on the 16 day of July 1828
Certificate of Pension issued the 6 th of Sept 1828 and sent to the Pension Care of the Hon J. Culpeper Beard
Arrears to 4th of Sept 1828 — $ 13-18 Semi-annual acct ending 4 March 1829 ,, 48 ~
1 mo. \frac{16}{31} \times \frac{4}{30}
$ 61-18
{ Revolutionary Claim, Acts March, 18, 1818, and May 1, 1820. }
Recorded vol 8 - page 38.
Book C.
4 March 1829 Bd B

John Hall. Private Col. Lyttles Regiment 1 st monthly North Carolina Line
Admitted
1 Case. 2888
Parry W. Humphreys Judge Dover, Tenn. Rec. 2 Dec. 16. 1818.
John Hall 10/10
Proof of service wanted.
Galt Harris Secretary of War Washington City.

State of Tennessee } Act n 17 th Dec r 1818- Montgomery County set }
This day before me Parry W. Humphrys one of the judges of the Circuit Courts in & for the State aforesaid came John Hall an inhabitant in the County of Shiloh in said State now in the 67 th year of his age who being by me first solemnly & lawfully sworn the truth to declare & speak launching his services in the army of the united States in the revolutionary war in order to obtain a pension under the act of Congress entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the Land & Naval Service of the united States in the Revolutionary War Declares & says That some time in the month of September in the year 1781. in the County of Richmond in the State of North Carolina he enlisted with a Captain Sharp who commanded a company in the Regiment commanded by Col d Archibald Lyle in the Continental line he enlisted for 18 months service Immediately after his enlistment he joined the main army at Salisbury - which was commanded by Gen l Greene from thence he with the Army marched

to Ashley hills in South Carolina not far from Charles Town remained there a short time & marched to James Island near the junction of Ashley & St. John Rivers. Where he remained until the month of September 1752 when the Army were discharged he being among the Sick at the time of the discharge was sent round by Weale to Wilmington in North Carolina & on his passage he lost his discharge which was given to him on James Island he was then so reduced by sickness as to be incapable of attending to any thing & was obliged to be helped on board the vessel in which he was transported to Wilmington Ton - The 12 months in which he served under Captain Sharp was all the service which he performed in the army of the united States as a con- tinental soldier but he was in the line of the War in service on various tours of duty all of which, to gether with the service of previous service amounted to four years & six months he further says that there was no Battle fought of any importance after he joined the Army under Genl. Green at While he was in the service he was in various Conflicts with the Tories & he has now

No further evidence to offer at his service than his own Declaration as aforesaid made - he is now Distressed of property has no means of subsistence but his own manual labour Which by reason of his age & infirmities he is incapable of perform- -ing as formerly & that he is in such reduced circumstances in life as to require & stand in need of assistance from his Country for support
John Hall Moor
Sworn & subscribed before me this Day & Date 13 th before written
Barry M Humphrys
I Barry M Humphrys Judge as aforesaid do hereby certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the aforesaid John Hall did serve in the army of the United States against the Common Enemy for more than nine months in the regular labouring class & that he is in such reduced circumstances in life as to stand in need of assistance from his Country for support & I do hereby transmit the foregoing the only true testimony & proceedings had upon an to the Hon. the Secretary of the War Department in as required by said act of Congress
Oct 15 th 1818.
Barry M Humphrys

State of Tennessee Stewart County ss I John Allen Clerk of of the Circuit Court for the County of Stewart hereby certify that Parry M. Humphreys is one of the Judges of the Circuit Courts in & for the State of Tennessee and all due faith and credit ought to be attached to his official acts as such, Witness my hand and private seal having no seal of office the 12 th day of Nov r 1818 John Allen Clk

State of N. Carolina Secretary's Office 9 th June 1819.
I William H. Leek Secretary of State in & for the State aforesaid do hereby Certify that it appears from the Musterroll of the N. Carolina Continental Line in the Revolutionary war that John Hall a Corp t in Sharp's Company of the 10 th Reg t was mustered in the year 1782 for the term of 18 Months but the length of time he served or when discharged is not stated. Given under my hand the date above.
Wm. H. Leek

ORIGINAL CLAIM.
Declaration, in order to be placed on the Pension List, under the Act of the 18th March, 1818.
County of Montgomery ss.
On this sixteenth day of July 1828, personally appeared in open court, (a) [being a court of record] (b) for the district, circuit, county, or corporation, as the case may be,  of Montgomery
John Hall resident in said county, aged seventy three years, who, being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the provision made by the acts of Congress of the 18th March, 1818, and the 1st of May, 1820; that he the said John Hall enlisted (c) for the term of twelve or thirteen the on or about 10 day of April in the year 1781 or 1782 in the State of North Carolina in the company (d) commanded by captain Dickson or Sharp in the regiment commanded by colonel Archibald Little in the line of the State of North Carolina on the continental establishment; that he continued to serve in the said corps ( or vessel ) until the 10th of April 1792 when he was discharged from the service in James Island near Charleston in the State of South Carolina ; that he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension, except the present; that his name is not on the roll of any State, except State of South Carolina ; and that the following are the reasons for not making earlier application for a pension: (e) that I was until lately able to support myself by my labour
And, in pursuance of the act of the 1st May, 1820, I do solemnly swear, ( or affirm, as the case may be, ) that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the 18th day of March, 1818, and that I have not, since that time, by gift, sale, or in any manner disposed of my property, or any part thereof, with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress, entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War," passed on the 18th day of March, 1818; and that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me, any property, or securities, contracts, or debts, due to me; nor have I any income, other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed, and by me subscribed. (f) That, since the 18th of March, 1818, the following changes have been made in my property. (g) one horse beast and a small quantity of household furniture all of which is now exhausted
Sworn to, and declared, on the sixteenth day of July 1828 before (h)
I Wm Desmukes Clerk of Anson County Court of Pleas do hereby certify, that it appears, to the satisfaction of the Court, that the said John Hall did serve in the Revolutionary War, as stated in the preceding declaration, against the common enemy, for the term of nine months, under one engagement, on the continental establishment. I also certify, that the foregoing oath, (or affirmation,) and the schedule thereto annexed, are truly copied from the records of the said Court; and I do further certify, that it is the opinion of the said Court, that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule is  dollars and  cents.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said Court, on this 16 day of July 1828.
Wm Desmukes
Clerk of the Court of the County of Anson
Seal of the Court.

January 29, 1935.
Mr. Robert Shumway Rockford Senior High School Rockford, Illinois.
BA-J/MSHF/ILL John Hall S. 41621 Am
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you state that you received the record of John Hall, S. 2590, sent you on September 9, 1934, BA-J/ILL and that you have since learned from a relative that the Revolutionary War service of that John Hall was as a sergeant, 4 th Company, muster roll dated December 12, 1782, State records of North Carolina, volume 16, page 1084. You request now to know if this office has a record of a John Hall who rendered this given service.
The John Hall, S. 2590, whose record was furnished you, alleged no service in the North Carolina troops; his service was in the South Carolina troops. The Revolutionary War records have been searched and the record found of a John Hall who rendered service in the North Carolina troops in 1782. His record is given as shown in pension claim, S. 41621, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War. There is no way for this office to determine whether or not he was identical with the one whose record you cite from page 1084, North Carolina archives.
John Hall enlisted in Richmond County, North Carolina, and served at various times, amounting to about three and one-half years, in the North Carolina troops, and was in several engagements with the Tories; no officers' names, nor dates of enlistments are given. He enlisted in September 1781, served in Captain Sharp's company, Colonel Archibald Lytle's North Carolina regiment and was discharged in September 1782 at James Island, South Carolina. He stated that this service of one year was "all the service which he rendered in the army of the United States as a Continental soldier". An official statement from the North Carolina records in support of his claim for pension shows that he served as corporal in Captain Sharp's company; he did not himself state his rank. 1  3  2
See 3 rd and Reports at back of this correspondence

He applied for pension October 17, 1818, at which time he was a resident of Stewart County, Tennessee. His application was executed in Montgomery County, Tennessee. He stated then that he was in his sixty-seventh year. His claim for pension was allowed.
John Hall died January 27, 1833. An official report on file shows that the last payment of his pension which was due was made in May 1833, to Mapel Chapel of Anson County, North Carolina, his only surviving child. The name of soldier's wife is not given and no other names of children are shown.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

Copy
War Department, Pension Office March 27, 1821
John H. Overton, Esq., Clerk. Sup. Ct., Cartridge, Smith County Tennessee.
Sir: On the 6 th July, 1819, Pension certificates for John Carney and John Hall were transmitted from this office, under enclosure addressed to Parry H. Humphrey, Esq., Dover, Tennessee, which has been returned from the Gen'l. Post Office as a "Dead Letter." They are herewith forwarded to you, with the blank forms of schedules for their compliance with the Act of May 1, 1820.
I am, etc.,
J. L. E.
Copy by MSST Jan. 28 - 1935

The is now certificate of this Pensioner was returned in a "Dead Letter" and transmitted to John W Overton Esq r Clerk of the Superior Court, Carthage, Smith County West Tennessee - P Office 27 Mar: 1821
See letter - copy
herein
copy

12377 Tennessee
John Hall
of Henry County in the state of Tennessee who was a Private in the regiment commanded Colonel Lytle of the North Carolina line, for the term of Eighteen Months.
Inscribed on the Roll of Tennessee at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence the 17 of October 1812
Certificate of Pension issued the 6 th of July 1819 and J. H. Barny N. Humble Dover Tennessee
Arrears to 4th of Mar 1819. 36.90 Semi-ann. all'ce ending Sep 1819. 48.00 4 Mo. 19/37 $84.90
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818. }

2nd 1828
pen: to com: 16 July, 1828. send cert: to John Hale , care of Hon. J. Cul- heper, Beard's Store, Anson Co.
Washburn
Concord Office.
President of War
Home P.B. Pater
Jan. Aug. 20th
511

Dear Sir; Montgomery County North Carolina August 6th 1828
I enclose you the Declaration of John Hall a revolutionary soldier accompanied by a certificate of his services signed by Wm Hill Secretary. The proof of his services being compleat, the law requiring a schedule of his property is to be complied with this he has done by swearing that the whole of his property is exhausted, this I am confident is true; he lives near me & would make no application while his property lasted or he could be supported by any means & unable to work, he has lived as long as he could & if his society does not support him, he must henceforth become a pauper. Should a certificate be granted (as I presume will be the case) please direct to me or to John Hall to my care Beard's Store, I have him placed on the Agency at Fayetteville Yours respectfully J. Calpeper Honl P. B. Pater Secretary.

P.S. Since writing the above Letter I have received information to be relied on that at the Gold mine in Anson County ten or twelve miles from my belonging to Col. Wm. D. Harkness & Austin two large pieces of Gold the one weighing four pounds & the other Eleven pound & three quarters & several less pieces of considerable value has been found by digging & washing in the dirt this may be relied on as I have seen several persons of veracity who saw the ten pound piece weighed & handled it.
Yours &c
J. L. G. [Signature]

State of North Carolina
Secretary of State's Office 26 th April 1828.
I William Hill Secretary of State in and for the State aforesaid, do certify, that it appears from the musterrolls of the continental line of this state in the revolutionary war, that John Hall a private soldier in Capt. Dixon's company of the 10 th Regiment, enlisted on the 25 th April 1781, for the term of 12 months, and that he left the service on the 25 th April 1782. - I do further certify, that John Hall a forpl. in Capt. Sharp's company of the 10 th Regt. enlisted on the day of 1782 for 18 months - nothing more said of him on said rolls.
Given under my hand at office in Raleigh this 26 th April 1828.
W. Hill

20.6.98
John Hall
Montgomery County
N.C.
Hon: J. Culpeper
Brady's Store
N.C.

(a) Or, in case of disability, by reason of bodily infirmity, in lieu of "in open court," insert the words "before the subscriber, a judge, (or justice, as the case may be,) of the court of," &c.
(b) All are courts of record, within the contemplation of the act of Congress—
1st. Which are expressly made courts of record by the laws of the State which creates them;
2d. Which have been solemnly adjudged, by the tribunals of the several States, to be courts of record;
3d. Which proceed according to the course of common law, with a jurisdiction unlimited in point of amount, keeping a record of their proceedings;
4th. Which have the power of fine and imprisonment.
And courts which proceed according to the course of the civil and canon law, having neither of these attributes, are not courts of record, although they may keep a registry of their proceedings, and possess a seal. The court should, in every instance, state, on the face of the proceedings, that it is a court of record, and state why it is such.
(c) If the claimant was an officer, he must here state what rank he held, and insert the word "entered," in lieu of "enlisted."
(d) If the claimant served in the Navy, he must here insert the name of the ship or vessel in which he sailed, and give the name of the captain or commander.
(e) Here give sufficient reason for not making earlier application for a pension.
(f) Here enumerate each article of real or personal estate, necessary clothing and bedding excepted, and subscribe the same. The declarant must also mention his occupation, his ability to pursue it, the number and names of his family residing with him, their ages, and their capacity to contribute to their support, in order that the Department may be enabled to decide whether the applicant is in such indigent circumstances as to be entitled to the pension. It is the opinion of the Attorney General, that the words of the 3d section of the act of the 1st of May, 1820, "in such indigent circumstances as to be unable to support himself without the assistance of his country," comprehend those only who are incapable of supporting themselves without the aid of the Government, except by private or public charity.
(g) If any changes have been made, here insert an account of the property in the applicant's possession on the 18th March, 1818, and not now owned by him; of which that disposed of by sale will be in the following columns:
   Description of Property. Names of the Persons to whom disposed of. Time of Sale. Amount of Money or description of Property received in return.          
If the property has been sold under execution, the certificate of the sheriff, or officer making the sale, must be produced, and the manner in which the debt originated, on account of which judgment was obtained, and execution issued, should be shown by the testimony of the plaintiff, who is required to swear as to the time at which the debt was contracted; and to state for what articles, the amount of them, and whether he believes that they were applied to the exclusive use and benefit of the defendant, or person claiming a pension. In every case where there has been a transfer of real estate, authenticated copies of the deed of conveyance should be exhibited; and where debts have been discharged with the proceeds of the sale of any property, the evidence of the creditors, proving the fact, is required. The creditors should state, under oath, the time at which the debts were contracted, for what articles of property, the time when they were paid, and in what way. The application of all money should be clearly shown, in like manner, by disinterested witnesses. If a claimant has taken the insolvent debtors' oath, the certificate of the magistrate before whom the oath was taken, must be produced. The origin of every note, bond, or other obligation, for the payment of money, the fulfilment of a contract, or the discharge of a debt, either to, or from, the applicant, must be clearly shown, as well as the time and manner of discharging the same. The oaths of disinterested persons are required to show for what the obligations were given, for what amount, and at what time; and similar proof is required as to the discharge or cancelling of the same. Similar evidence is required in every case where property has been sold under a mortgage. The testimony of the mortgagee, as well as that of the mortgager, is required. Each should swear as to the manner in which the mortgage originated, showing the time of contracting the debt, for what consideration, and the amount thereof; and the mortgager must show how the money or property for which he became indebted, was applied. In cases where persons have held landed property, and have never had deeds for the same, the affidavits of public officers, competent to give testimony in such cases, are required. The official character and signature of the magistrate before whom the affidavits may be taken, should be certified, under seal of office, by the county Clerk, the Mayor of the city, the Secretary of State, or by such other officer as is required by the laws and usages of the State or Territory where the evidence is taken. The officer should certify that the magistrate is a Judge, Justice of the Peace, Alderman, or other officer, as the case may be, duly qualified to administer oaths, and that the signature, purporting to be his, is genuine.
(h) Persons unable to appear in court, by reason of bodily infirmity, and who are permitted, by the act of March 1, 1823, to take the oath before a Judge or Justice of a court of record, must, in addition to the oath in ordinary cases, swear that they are not able to attend personally in court, by reason of disease, or bodily disability, as the case may be. Before the words "I _____ clerk," &c. insert the following: "I _____ a Judge, (or Justice) of the court of _____ holden in the county of _____ where the declarant resides, do hereby certify, that the above named _____ is, from a disease called the _____ with which, I am credibly informed, and believe, he has been afflicted, for the space of _____ unable to attend the court of which I am a Judge, (or Justice,) and I do not think, from present appearances, that he will be able to attend the court above named, at its next session. I have, therefore, in pursuance of the act of Congress of the 1st March, 1823, attended at his place of abode, and administered the foregoing oath. A. B. Judge," &c. Then let the clerk, in lieu of the usual certificate, write these words: "I, _____ clerk of the court of _____ certify that _____ before whom the above affidavit of _____ who is now sick and confined to his house, was made, is Judge as aforesaid. I also certify, that the said schedule and oath have been admitted to the record of said court, and that the same are truly copied therefrom: and I do further certify, that it is the opinion of the said court, that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule, is _____ dollars and _____ cents."
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of the said court, on this _____ day of _____ 182_____
Clerk of the Court for the _____ of, &c.

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section
January 11, 1926.
Jane H. Abbott, Olancho, Calif.
Madam:
I have to advise you, that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 41621, it appears that John Hall enlisted in Richmond County, North Carolina, April 25, 1781, served as private in Captain Dixon's Company, Tenth North Carolina Regiment, until April 25, 1782: re-enlisted in 1782, served as Corporal in Captain Sharp's Company, Tenth North Carolina Regiment and was discharged at James Island, South Carolina, date not stated.
He also served in the militia and was in skirmishes with the Tories, but gives no details of this service.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 17, 1818, while living in Stewart County, Tenn., aged sixty-six years.
He died January 27, 1833. His only surviving child was Mapel Chapel of Anson County, North Carolina. The date of his birth and name of his wife are not on record, and there is no further data on file as to family.
Respectfully,
Winfield Scott WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.
Submitted Pat. A. D. 1818 as he is not shown as of 10. A. C. Regt & I need the full reports for service

ROCKFORD SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL
DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL AND VOCATIONAL EDUCATION
ROCKFORD, ILLINOIS
R. B. SHUMWAY, DEPARTMENT HEAD
December 21, 1934
Veterans Administration Washington, D. C.
Attention: Mr. A. D. Hiller, Assistant to administrator
Dear Mr. Hiller:
First permit me to thank you for your letter of September 29, your file BA-J/ILL, John Hall S2590. The information you gave me coincides exactly with the information given me on an application to D. A. R. by distant relative of John Hall.
Recently I learned from another relative who has made application that the proof of service for said John Hall was as follows. John Hall served as sergeant 4th company Muster roll dated December 12, 1782, state records of North Carolina volume 16, page 1084. Will you check your service record for North Carolina to determine if there was a John Hall serving in this capacity, and would appreciate copy of any record that may be available on this Revolutionary soldier. Thanking you in advance,
I remain, Yours Respectfully .
A handwritten signature in cursive, appearing to read 'Robert Shumway'.
Robert Shumway
Head Industrial and Vocational Department
R. B. S. . L. B.

Olancho, California, Nov. 29, 1925.
Bureau of Pensions, U. S. Government, Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:-
Have you a record of John Hall, a private in the War of the Revolution, enlisted April 25, 1781 and served 12 months in Dixon's Co. 19th. Reg. N. C. from State Records of N. C. Vol. 16, pg. 1002. Did he draw a pension? Where was he from, and have you the date of his birth and of his death?
An answer to my query will be appreciated.
Very sincerely,
Jane H. Atwood

O. W. N. 1907
J. A. M.
United States Post Office, Salisbury Rowan COUNTY NC  Car STATE
July 20, 1907
Respectfully referred to the Commissioner of Pensions Washington DC
For the information concerning John Hall's military record is requested living in Rowan Co., N.C. Corpl. Capt. Sharpe's Co. - Rowan NC
Very Respectfully James H. Ramsay

CR
TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Washington, July 31 st 1907.
The Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir: In reply to your letter of 27 th inst, in case of
John Hall, Rev. War. Act 1818 Certificate #19,971
Fayetteville N.C. Agency, Roll,
you are informed that, according to the latest account rendered by the U. S. Pension Agent, the records of this office show
payment to have been made at $8.- per month to
27 January 1833, date of death, in May 1833. Payment on made to the only surviving child, Maple Chapel, of Anson Co. N. Carolina
Letter herewith returned.
Respectfully,
Handwritten signature of Acting Auditor
Acting Auditor.
Deputy Auditor.

Sunnis File No. 41,621 John Hall Rev. War.
Department of the Interior, BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D. C., July 27 , 1907.
SIR:
For use in the above-entitled claim for pension, you are requested to furnish this Bureau with a report in the case of John Hall Private N. C. troops Revolutionary War pensioned under the Acts of Mch. 18, 1818 & May 1, 1820 by certificate No. 19,971 issued, Sept. 6, 1828 at North Carolina Agency, showing date of his death, and name of the person to whom the last payment of his pension was paid.
Very respectfully,
Died 27 Jany 33 p' 2-33 Vol E folio 104
J. L. Klavenport Acting Commissioner.
THE AUDITOR FOR THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT,
Treasury Department.

TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON, July 30, 1907.
The Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir:
In reply to your letter of the twenty-seventh instant, herewith returned, in the case of John Hall, Private, N. C. Troops, Revolutionary War, pensioned under the Act of March 18, 1818, you are informed that an examination of the records of this office fails to discover the name of said soldier.
Respectfully,
[Handwritten signature] Acting Auditor.
CJM
see endorsement of backs of jacket that pens. ctg. was returned in 'Dead letter' & then transmitted to John W. Overton Clerk Court of Carriage of Smith Co. W. Tenn. Mar 27. 1821

O. W. and N. Div
Division.
llb Ex'r.
Survivor's File No. 38819
John Hall
Rev. War
Department of the Interior,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
Washington, D. C., July 27 , 1907
SIR:
For use in the above-entitled claim for pension, you are requested to furnish this Bureau with a report in the case of John Hall  Private N. C. troops Revolutionary War pensioned under the Act of March 18, 1818 by certificate No. 12377 issued July 6, 1819  Tennessee-West Agency , showing date of soldier's death and name of the person to whom the last payment of his pension was made .
Very respectfully,
J. L. Klavenport
Acting Commissioner.
THE AUDITOR FOR THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT,
Treasury Department.
o-2

38819
INVALID.
Rev
File No. 38819
John Hall Pri Rev 1820
Act: 18 March 18
Index: Vol. 8, Page 211
[Arrangement of 1870.]
Aug. 16/91 C. and G. that malleus can be made.
1907 July 27. and for debts to whom arrears were paid - c.
1907 Aug. 2. Hist. to Jas. H. Ramsay inquiry in S. File 41,621 - c.

41 621
INVALID.
Rev
File No.
41 621
John Hall Rev War
Act:
18 th March 18 th
Index:—Vol.
8
, Page
212
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1907 July 27. Recd. for death + name of person to whom arrears were paid - C 1907 Aug. 2. History to James H. Rarberry - C 1926 Jan. 11. Test to Jane H. Abbott au 1935 - Jan. 29. Hist. to Robert Shumway - MMH 3/12/35