Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8738, John Holman, Va.

SERVICE
NUMBER _____
Va.
Holman, John
L. 8738
carded
CONTENTS

32.916
Virginia Richmond John Holman
of Cumberland in the State of Virginia who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain _____ of the Regt commanded by Col _____ in the Revolution time for 6 months
Date of death not on A.B.
Inscribed on the Roll of Richmond at the rate of 20 Dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20 day of Sept 1857 and sent to Wallace A. Johnson
Arrears to the 4th of Semi-annual allowance ending Rainie's Tavern Cumberland Co.
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by J. P. Magallanes Clerk Bk. _____ Vol. 65 Page 19

W 37737 John Holman pa at 7 June 1832
Rejected and mislaid 11 months
37737

State of Virginia, County of Cumberland } 55 On this 23 rd 23 rd day of February A D 1850 personally appeared before me a justice of the peace for the county of Cumberland and state of Virginia John Holman a resident of the county and state aforesaid aged ninety two years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of conscript passed June 7 th 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated viz Captain of the company, Richd Allen Major, Garland Col Downman and Brigadier General Mullenburg I entered the service of the United States on the 1 st of January 1781 as a volunteer and remained in the service until the 8 th of April of the same year The company marched from Cumberland court house down to the sea coast halting for a short time at Smithfield we then marched for Chuckatue where we were encamped for some time I do not recollect how long. we were stationed the greater part of the time about Norfolk and below that place - we marched from Edmundstale into Carolina North Carolina to a little town called Pen-cook during this time we were engaged in some skirmishes with the enemy at the great falls on Roanoke river I think in this skirmish I was under corporal Sam Moody. About this time Philips and Arnold had joined their forces they cut off our march and we had to cross the Dismal Swamp on the logs. I was discharged by General Mullen- burg as before stated on the 8 th of April 1781, at Coopers Mill. I was a resident of Cumberland County at the time of entering the service and have continued so ever since I was born on the 21 st of April 1757. I have no documen- tary evidence, and I know of no person whose testimony I can procure who can testify to my service

I have long since lost my discharge not regarding it as of any use to me -
I was next draughted into the service sometime about the middle of April (I can not recollect the day, as a militiaman, of the same year) the officer commanding the company was Capt. Stephen Guthry Major John Burslem commanded the Battalion, the battalion was not full but we had a major. In this war we marched from Prince Edward Court House to Culpepper to join General Wood (Regulars) our line of march lay through Cumberland Essex Lord and other counties I do not distinctly recollect now, we fell in with the Marquis Lafayette before reaching Culpepper at Shopp's Ordinary in Spotsylvania, from Culpepper we marched in the direction of the Point of Fork to Threl's Cornwallis and as he receded towards Jamestown we pursued, sometime during this march we were thrown with brig Gen Lawson and constituted a portion of his brigade, during this march we had frequent skirmishes with the vanguard of the enemy we were encamped sometimes about fifteen miles above Jamestown, during this time a battle was fought at Jamestown between Wayne and Lord Cornwallis about Jamestown I was not in this engagement our brigade was sent for, we reached the battlefield the day after the engagement - I was discharged from service again on the 8th of July 1781. I have not the discharge in either case, I recollect I rec'd it from Col. Sturdivant in the last instance I know of no person whose testimony can prove who can testify to my service nor have I any documentary evidence of it. My register was contained in a book which was sold at my father's sale and I do not know what became of it. I refer to the judge of the county to proxies of the peace and to my county men generally for testimonials of character credibility & I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that my name is not the pension roll of the agency of any state.
John H. Burslem
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid
William Lee S.P.

We, J. S. Armistead, a clergyman, residing in the County of Cumberland, and John E. Browder, residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with John Holman, who has subscribed to the above declaration; that we believe him to be ninety-two years of age; that he is separated & believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution; and that we concur in that opinion.
J. S. Armistead, Pastor of the Presbyterian Church of Cumberland. John, E. Browder
Sworn & subscribed the day & year aforesaid. William Lee S.P.
I a justice of the peace for the county and state aforesaid do hereby certify that John Holman who has sworn to and subscribed the declaration above written is unable to attend court by reason of bodily infirmity William Lee S.P.
February county.
County Court of Cumberland County and State of Virginia February Term 1850. The said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter had before Wm Lee a Justice of the Peace for said County of Cumberland that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states and that said applicant is a man of unimpeachable veracity and high character And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Jesse S Armistead who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman residing in the County of Cumberland State of Virginia aforesaid and that John E Browder is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
J B B. Woodson Clerk of the County Court of Cumberland

I hereby certify that the foregoing contain the original proceedings of the said courts in the matter of the application of John Holman for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said courts this 25 th day of February 1857.
W. B. Woodson. C.

March 15, 1933
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Mrs. R. H. Solater 222 Woods Avenue, S. W., Roanoke, Virginia
JOHN HOLMAN S. 8738 BA-J/MLB
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Holman, whose claim you cite as rejected in the printed list of R. C. 1852.
His record is given below as found in the papers on file in his claim for pension, S. 8738, based upon service in the Revolutionary War. His claim was rejected, but later allowed when he submitted further evidence in support of it.
John Holman was born April 21, 1757; the place of his birth and names of his parents are not shown.
While a resident of Cumberland County, Virginia, he volunteered January 1, 1781, served as a private in Captain Richard Allen's company, Colonel Downman's Virginia regiment, was engaged in some skirmishes and was discharged April 8, 1781. He enlisted sometime about the middle of April, 1781, served as private in Captain Alex Guthry's company, Major John Overstreet's Virginia battalion; during this tour also he was in frequent skirmishes and was discharged July 8, 1781, by Colonel Skipwith.
John Holman was allowed pension on his application executed February 23, 1850, while a resident of Cumberland County, Virginia. For a number of years he was Justice of the Peace for that county.
There are no family data on file.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

1909 May 29, Hail to Geo. Richardson 1918 Oct 20 Hail to May 1918 Young 1938 Mar 15 Hail to May 1938 Deletions 1918
Richardson
8438 INVALID.
File No. 8738
John Holman Price Ben. War
Act: June 4th 1832.
Index: Vol. Net , Page 178
[Arrangement of 1870.]

✓ N 37,737
John Wolman
Va
See also 1840 Census 1840 Census
Rejected
at 7 June 1832

Hon. P. L. Boorach
3 rd July 1850
72
3

40 Pension Office July 3 rd 1850
Sir
I have the honor to inform you that upon a reexamination of the declaration of John Holman it is found that he claimed a pension for two tours of service in the Militia of Virginia in  the the first tour commencing in April 81 and terminating 8 th July 81. the other sometime about the middle of April and ending 8 th July 81. But there is no satisfactory evidence to establish either tour now on file -
The Clerk who examined this Claim originally committed an error in saying that Holman claimed to have served but one tour. In the hurry of business the second tour commencing as he states about the middle of April 1781 was overlooked -
The evidence now filed is not at all sufficient to show that Holman rendered as much as 60 days service
Hon Thomas Rock House of Reps

Hon. Thos S Biscoe
6 Mar 1850
Dear Sir,
29 1880

Pension Office March 6 th 1850
Sir
I have the honor to inform you that the application of John Wolman for a pension under the act of 7 June 1832 has been received and disallowed.
That act provides for those officers and soldiers of the Revolutionary War only who rendered not less than 6 months actual service. Wolman states in his declaration that he volunteered on 1 st January 1788 and was discharged on the 8 th April of the same year. He served according to his own statement but 3 mos 8 days. Consequently is not provided for by the act above referred to.
Hon Thos S. Baccus House of Reps

House of Reps. March. 1. 1858
Dear Sir
I enclose, as I am requested to do, the accompanying papers of John Holman of Cumberland County, Virginia in which he applies for a pension. Though I have no doubt about his being entitled to a pension, I have strong misgivings , about the sufficiency of the testimony he has produced. But as in duty bound I submit the matter to you. If you reject the application please state what proof is necessary, and enclose blank forms
Your early attention is invited to this matter as it will take but a few minutes of examination and a decision in a day or two may prevent the agent from incurring the expense of coming to Washington
I am with with great respect Yr Most Ob t Servant
M. S. Brock
Col Edwards Comm ee of Pensions

Brief in the case of John Holman Cumberland County and State of Virginia act 7 June 1832.
Claim, ("original," or "for increase.")
Proof exhibited, (if original.)
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance..
Evidence of service, traditionary His character certified to by Judge D. and A. Wilson and others.
Allowed for six months - $20 per ann.
(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
Name and residence of Agent.
Watkins A Johnson, Rains Tavern Cumberland Co. Virg-
F. F. Kirby Examining Clerk.

June 4 th 1857
Add. Evi: of John Stolman's Capt. Triplett Service
James Town May 31 st
Watkins Johnson Cumberland Crk. Va.
James E. Heath - Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions Washington City
File

Cumberland County Virginia May 29 th 1851
Dear Sir
Enclosed you will find the affidavits of the following gentlemen viz, Judge Daniel A. Wilson Capt. William M. Thornton James Hobson Benjamin Allen and Samuel C. Anderson procured by Mr John Holman as additional evidence to that now on file in your office, as to his services as a Revolutionary soldier I regard it as fully establishing the justice of his claim under the act of 1833 and think he has brought himself clearly within the rules that have been heretofore observed in your Department. In a conversation I had with you in reference to Mr John Holmans pension sometime in the early part of March last I think you indicated that Testimonials such as are here with transmitted cover all that was then required to place Mr Holmans claim upon such a footing as to receive the favorable consideration of the Department, he could have obtained others of the character same without number. but regarding that there now that submitted are sufficient to effect all that this kind of evidence can effect, He declines to introduce any others. As the agent of Mr Holman it was my purpose to have visited the city of Washington in person and to have laid before you such views as have presented themselves upon this matter but have been prevented by other engagements from doing so. Under these circumstances I must beg the favor of you to advise me as soon as you can by letter addressed to Raines Towns of the reception of this package and should you upon the examination of the affidavits regard them

as establishing the claim I should be pleased to be advised of that also.
Truly yours not divided Matthew & Johnson
Miss Rainie Lovell Pocahontas Co Va

John Holman
Va
Act 7 June '32
6 mo. pri. $20.
Per Ann:
sent to Walkins Johnson, Raines Tavern Cumberland Co Va

I Daniel A. Wilson do hereby certify that I have known Holmgren  John the County of Cumberland, from my boy-hood to the present day. I have known him well, and intimately, during the whole of that period. I unhesitatingly say that I never knew any man whose character for truth and integrity was more unimpeachable. any statement made by him would at all times be received and relied upon, in the community in which he has resided, with implicit faith and credit. I understand he has filed his declaration in the Pension Office for the purpose of getting the bounty allowed under the various acts of Congress in relation to that subject. I have not read it, or heard particularly what he has stated his services to have been in the revolutionary war with Genl. Butler. But I would believe, & I do believe that what he has stated is the truth. I have heard him spoken of, I think, by Capt. Reck d Allen, who was my great uncle, as connected with scenes of the revolution, but my recollection is too indistinct upon the subject to venture to detail them. Capt. Allen has been dead for many years. I think he died in 1831. Given under my hand this 25th. Mar. 1851
Danl. A. Wilson
Cumberland County To wit:
I William M. Norton a justice of the peace for the 3d. County do certify that Judge Danl. A. Wilson, who is personally known to me this day made oath to the truth

of the foregoing affidavit. Given under my hand this 25th. Mar. 1851 Wm M Thornton
State of Virginia Cumberland County to wit: } I B. B. Woodson Clerk of the County Court of Cumberland, in the State of Virginia, do hereby certify that William M. Thornton whose name is subscribed to the above certificate, is and was at the time of signing the same, an acting Justice of the peace in and for said County, duly commissioned and qualified, and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said Court at its office this 25th day of May 1851.
B. B. Woodson C.

I Benjamin Allen of the County of Cumberland and State of Virginia hereby certify that I am well acquainted with John Holman of the County and State aforesaid and have known the said John Holman for the last fifty years who I am informed has filed his declaration in the Office of the Commissioner of Pensions at Washington City for the purpose of obtaining the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7 th 1832. That he has always been reputed to have been a Revolutionary soldier. That he is a man of high character and respectability that I would repon the at most confidence and belief in any statement he has made in reference to his military services I further certify that I have heard my father Benjamin Allen of this County who died about forty four years ago say that John Holman was a soldier of the Revolution and I do further certify that I think I have heard Capt Richard Allen who was an officer in the Revolution say that the said Holman was a Revolutionary soldier and that this is the belief of the old people generally.
Given under my hand this 24 th day of March 1857 Benja Allen
Cumberland County to wit:
I Danel. A. Nelson, one of the Judges of the Genl. Court of Virginia, do hereby certify that Capt. Benj. Allen, who is personally known to me, this day made oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit.
Given under my hand this 24 th day of March. 1857
Danel. A. Nelson

State of Virginia Cumberland County to wit: } I B. B. Woodson Clerk of the Circuit Court for the County of Cumberland in the State of Virginia, do hereby certify, that Daniel A. Allen, whose name is subscribed to foregoing affidavits of Samuel C. Anderson & Allen M. Thornton, James Dobson, and Benjamin Allen, is Judge of the Circuit Court for the County of Cumberland, and one of the Judges of the General Court of Virginia and that the signatures purporting to be his are genuine.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said Court at office, this 10 th day of May 1857.
B. B. Woodson C. 11

I Saml Anderson of the County of Prince Edward- and State hereby certify of Virginia hereby certify that I am well acquainted and have been well acquainted with John Holman of Cumberland for more than thirty years. And I understand he has lately filed his declaration in the ju- dicial office at Washington stating himself to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and claiming the the bounty given to such, by the various laws of Congress, on that subject. Mr. Hol- man has maintained the reputation of a most respectable and elevated gentleman at all times; notwithstanding his great age, his mind is unimpaired, and he retains bodily strength, which enables him to undergo fatigue that would weary most young men. I never knew a man on whose statement I would more implicitly rely. He would ask nothing, he would have nothing but that to which he believes he was morally and le- gally entitled. He has been a justice of the peace for Cum- berland County, Virginia, many years, and has discharged all the duties without reproach; yes with high commendation of every one who knew him.
Given under my hand this 25 th March 1851
Saml Anderson of Prince Edward County, Virginia
Cumberland County to wit:
I Danl. A. Wilson one of the Judges of the Genl. Court of Virginia do hereby certify that Saml. C. Anderson, who is personally known to me, this day made oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit given under my hand this 25 th day of Mar. 1851
Danl. A. Wilson

I W m M Thornton of the County of Cumberland & State of Virginia do hereby certify that I have been for fifty years past well acquainted with John Holman, who has been during that whole time resided in the County aforesaid - & who I am informed has filed in the Office of the Commissioner of Pensions at Washington City his declaration for the pension of obtaining the benefit of the Act passed June 7 th 1832 - That he has always been reputed to have served as a soldier in the revolutionary War, that he is a man of unimpeached integrity & veracity, & that I would repon the utmost confidence on any statement he would make, in reference to his revolutionary services, That he has been for a long time a justice of the peace for the said County and I will further say that I have heard an old man, named W m Dunford, who lived my near neighbour, & who I always understood was a soldier in the revolutionary War, say that the said John Holman was a soldier in the Militia in that war & I think said he was a good soldier - Dunford died some ten or twelve years ago -
Given under my hand this
24 th March 1857
W m M Thornton
William M. Thornton, who is personally known to me this day, appeared before me Daniel A. Wilson one of the Judges of the Genl. Court of Virginia, and made oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit given under my hand this 24 th day of March 1857
Danl. A. Wilson

I James Hobson of the county of Cumberland and State of Virginia hereby certify that I am well acquainted with John Holman of the county aforesaid who I am informed has filed his declaration in the office of the Commissioner of pensions at Washington city for the purpose of obtaining the benefit of the act passed June 7 th 1832, that he has always been reputed to have been a soldier of the revolution that he has always sustained a high character for veracity and integrity and that I would place the almost in confidence of  in any statement of his I further certify that I have heard Captain Wm Walker and Captain Richd Allen say they knew said Holman as a soldier of the revolution I certify I am not positive but to the best of my recollection I think I have Captain Walker and Allen state to this
Given under my hand this 24 th of March 1857 James Hobson
Cumberland County to wit:
I Danl. A. Wilson one of the Judges of the Genl. Court of Virginia do hereby certify that Capt. James Hobson who is personally known to me, this day made oath to the truth of the foregoing affidavit.
Given under my hand this 24 th of March 1857
Danl. A. Wilson

GEO. RICHARDSON & CO.
STAPLE AND FANCY Groceries
DRY GOODS, BOOTS AND SHOES
Farmville, Va., May 21 1909
Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C. Sir
Will you please examine the records and see if either of the following persons were in the Revolutionary War
Jas. Holman Stephen Hooper Wm. Allen
all from the County of Buchanan in Cumberland Va.

GEO. RICHARDSON & CO.
STAPLE AND FANCY Groceries
DRY GOODS, BOOTS AND SHOES
Farmville, Va., _____ 190
2 If you find any mention of check please state it, Thanking you in advance for your kindness Very truly Geo. Richardson

222 Woods Ave., S.W. Roanoke, Virginia Feb. 18, 1933.
Pension Bureau Dept. of Commerce Rev. War Section Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
Please send me copy of all data on rejected claim of John 3 Holman  (Rev. soldier) - Cumberland County, Virginia. The claim states "did not serve 6 mos". Please send me any family data on

file.
The above information is given in R. C. 1852. Sen. Doc 37-32 th Congress 1 st Session.
I shall appreciate any information as con- tained in the papers.
Yours truly, Mrs. R. H. Schlater.

John Holman Born - Cumberland Co. Va 21 April 1757 Died. " " " 29 Jany 1852
John S. Holman Born 1-10-1822 - Died 1-17-1890 Ann S. " " 6-17-1828 - Apr 1873 (married 6-3-1850)
J. S. Holman son Wm Holman (born 12-10-1798 Died July 1866) his 1st wife Harriet Scott Hooper.
Wm Holman son of John Holman (born 2/21/1757 died 2/18/1833 & his wife Anne Wright born 1766 died 2-18-1833 & was married 1784.
John Holman was son George Holman
John Holman private Rev. War Sun File 8738 - Bureau of Pensions he enlisted service as private in Rev. War on Jan 1, 1811 under Cap. Richard Allen
NEW YORK OFFICE: 72 LEONARD STREET
LYNCHBURG, VA.
to Col. Bowman of 1st Va Inf 910-912-914-916 CONGRESS ST
DRY GOODS AND NOTIONS
WHOLESALE
QUINN-MARSHALL COMPANY

Also he served as private under Col. Alexandria Guthrey & Mjr. Overstreet Also in 3rd Troop 1st Reg. Light Dragoon Continental Troops commanded by Col. Bland which org. was raised in Va.
He was married at Petersburg Va 1784.
Children
   Name  D. Birth  TO WHOM MARRIED      Seymour Holman  Dec 3, 1790  never "    Tandy "  " 7, 1787  " "    William "  " 10, 1793  1st Henrietta Scott Hooper. 2nd Martha Allen    Benjamin Holman  Jan 1, 1796  Sarah Elizabeth Allen   
REPRODUCED AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES FROM THE COLLECTIONS OF THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS PRINTED BY THE GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

SUFFOLK HOME DEFENSE LEAGUE
MAJOR M. W. JOYNER, PRES.
J. H. CORBITT, 1ST VICE-PRES.
COL. J. E. WEST, 2ND VICE-PRES.
SUFFOLK HOME GUARDS HEADQUARTERS
Company "A"— Captain—W. J. Pettit. 1st Lieut.—E. M. C. Quimby. 2nd. Lieut.—J. T. Withers. Chaplain—Rev. J. F. Coleman.
SUFFOLK HOME GUARD BATTALION
M. W. JOYNER, MAJOR ELMER W. BRINKLEY, ADJUTANT—1ST LIEUT. C. F. TAYLOR, QUARTERMASTER—2ND LIEUT. G. RICHARDSON JOYNER, PRIVATE SEC'Y TO MAJ.—2ND LIEUT. DR. W. W. STALEY, CHAPLAIN
Company "D"— Captain—L. S. Dennis. 1st. Lieut.—H. S. Eley. 2nd. Lieut.—P. G. Everett. Chaplain—Rev. H. H. Butler.
SUFFOLK, VA., Oct 29/1918
Department of the Interior Bureau of Pensions Washington DC
Dear Sir your letter of 26 was received and I am sending you the order we have upon that was sent to my sister-in-law but she misplaced the paper and the DOR chapter requires this information be confirmed by some one from the Department I hope to trouble you so much if any charges for some mail me bill to Safford as I am sending your information asked for Yours truly M. W. Joyner Box 188

In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John Holman a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau. S. File 8738
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Jany 1, 1781 Apl. 8, 1781 Private Richard Allen Bownman Va.   Apl - 1781 to July 8, 1781 Alexander Guthry Maj. John Overstreet        
Battles engaged in,
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Cumberland Co., Va.
Date of application for pension, May 23, 1850 - His claim was allowed.
Residence at date of application, Cumberland Co., Va.
Age at date of application, Born Apl. 21, 1757.
Remarks: date of soldier's death is not shown. No family data on file.

Record Division.
May 29, 1909.
Mr. Geo. Richardson, Farmville, Va.
Sir:
In reply to your letter dated the 21st and received the 23rd instant, you are herewith furnished a statement of the military services of John Holman, Sur. File 8738, and are advised that the Revolutionary War pension records fail to afford any information in regard to Steven Hooper or William Allen described by you.
Very respectfully,
Acting Commissioner.