Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 4991, John Hoover, Penn.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Penn.
Hoover, John
H. 4991
" Huber, John George
" Hover.
Born in Germany
CONTENTS
Barbara

Chic 26.449.
John Hoover
of Sicking, Co - in the State of Ohio - who was a 1 st in the Company commanded by Captain James of the 11 th  Inf commanded by Col J. W. Wayne in the 1 st Penn Key Stone Battery
2 Yrs Dr $80.00
Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio — at the rate of 80 Dollars — Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 8 th day of July 1834 to M c H. Coffey, Newark.
Arrears to the 15th of Feb 31 240.00 Trans. allowance ending Apr 40.00 280.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by J. D. Hays Clerk, Book 6 - Vol. 8 Page 11

Rebates
4756 Ohio Cincinnati Barbara Hooper widow of John Hooper who served in the Revolutionary war, as a legatee
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1845.
Certificate of Pension issued the 1st day of May 1844 and sent to Wm D. Duncan M.B.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under February 3, 1848, Page 34.3 V

Declaration. In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7 th July 1838 entitled "An Act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" The State of Ohio Licking County Ye
Court of Common Pleas October Term A.D. 1838.
Be it known that on the 26 th day of October in the year Eighteen Hundred and thirty eight personally appeared in Open Court (Being all out of records) Barbara Hoover a resident of the County of Licking and State of Ohio aged as nearly as she can recollect about seventy four years on the 12 th of March last. Who being first duly sworn doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress passed July 7 th 1838 entitled "An Act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" that she is the widow of John Hoover who was a Private in the Army of the Revolution in the Pennsylvania line. that he enlisted for five years as she thinks but does not know the name of the Captain or any of the Officers under whom he served. She has heard him tell of his being in a number of battles but does not now recollect of any of the battles in which he was in except the Battle of Brandywine that his services or the principal part (which she recollects) was performed around not far from old Philadelphia that he was wounded in some Battle he was in by a Ball shot through his neck which occasioned the loss of one of his eyes and was taken prisoner by the enemy that he lay for nine weeks in the Hospital almost invisible from the effect of his wound (as she has been informed) and that he remained a prisoner until the war was over She further declares that she was married to the said John Hoover (as she believes) about the year 1784. She recollects that it was not long after the close of the war does not think it was as much as a year after the close of the War before she was married. She states her marriage at the house of a Magistrate in the neighborhood near where she lived about a mile and a half from the Red Lion and

about twenty nine Miles west of Philadelphia in Chester County in the State of Pennsylvania. She does not now recollect the Name of the Magistrate who solemnized the Marriage She states that two of her uncles and two of her aunts went in company with them from her fathers to the house of the Magistrate where she went to be married Neither of whom are now living. nor does she know of any person now living who was present at the time of her Marriage. Neither does she know of any public or private record by which she can establish her exact age, or the date of her marriage. She states that it is her belief that her age as also the time of her marriage was set down in Bible which belonged to her husband before they were married in which his age together with the ages of his Brothers and sisters were set down of this fact however she is not certain. She states that by accident the leaves on which this record was kept were torn out of the bible, and destroyed by a little puppy dog when she was out of the house having given the Bible to one of her children to keep it quiet while she was out. She further states that the births of her children were set down in a Hymn Book which has been lost She further declares that she was married to the said John Hoover (as she believes) about the year 1784. That her husband the foresaid John Hoover died at Newark Township in the County of Lehigh on the 8 th day of October A.D. 1834. That she was not married to him prior to his having the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first day of January 1794 (work) sometime in the year 1784 to the best of her recollection & belief as herein before stated. She further states that she continued to live with her husband the said John Hoover from the time of their marriage up to the time of his death, by whom she has had fourteen children

the eldest of whom was fifty three years of age on the 27 th of March last, and was born about fifteen months after her marriage with the said John Hoover. She further states that she has not been married since the the death of her husband the said John Hoover. She further states by reference to a copy of his pension certificate that he was placed on the pension roll of the State United States Ohio Agency and that his pension certificate was numbered 26449 and bears date on the 8 th day of July 1834 shortly before the death of the said John Hoover, that he did not receive any of the pension due to him before his death. But that the same was drawn of the Agent for paying pensions in the state of Ohio and the amount due to her husband up to the time of his death has been paid to her.
Barbara her Hoover mark
Sworn and subscribed in open Court This 26 th day of October A.D. 1838
Franklin Fullerton Clerk
Also personally appeared Charles Hoover of the said County of Licking aged forty eight years who being duly sworn and interrogated in open Court states that he knows the said Barbara Hoover whose name is subscribed to the foregoing Declaration to be the identical person she there represents herself to be, that the said John & Barbara Hoover since his earliest recollection have been known reported and acknowledged as father & mother & as husband and wife, and that he has no doubt of the fact in regard to the legality of their marriage that he has one Brother and one Sister older than himself besides besides other Brothers & Sisters younger than himself (some of whom are now dead) who are all children of the said John Hoover and Barbara Hoover or at least are acknowledged & reported as such, that the said John Hoover to his knowledge was a Pensioner of the United States on the pension list Roll of the Ohio Agency. He further states that the said Barbara Hoover has not been married since the death of the said John Hoover. Sworn to and subscribed in open Court { Charles Hoover October 26 th 1838 { Franklin Fullerton Clerk

The State of Ohio (Sinking County) ss I Franklin Fullerton Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in the case of Barbara Hoover whose name is subscribed to the foregoing declaration. It is also further certified that Charles Hoover (whose name is signed to the foregoing affidavit) is a person of credibility. In testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court this 20 th day of October A.D. 1838.
Franklin Fullerton Clerk
Hon. P. P. [?] J. P.
6845 Particulars Rec. & Ch. account Oct. 7. 1838 m 84 d 34 amount 21 7 30 Also acct 43. 84 1 480
6845 Particulars of John Ohio

The State of Ohio Licking County, ss.
It remembered that on this 25 day of April in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty four, personally appeared before me, One of the Special judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Licking and State of Ohio, John Hoorn, or Huber, who is sometimes called John George Brown, a resident of the said County of Licking, aged about eighty years, who being duly sworn upon the Holy Evangelists of Almighty God, doth on his Oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the Act of Congress, Passed on the seventh day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two. Deponent states that he is a native of Germany, and emigrated to this country in the year 1795 [as he thinks] and landed at Philadelphia - that in a short time after he arrived he was indentured to one Jacob Hoorn of Lancaster County Pennsylvania to pay for the expenses of his passage, and that he thinks was in the year 1795 or possibly it might have been in 1796, in the fall of that year he was at Lancaster and there enlisted in the Army of the United States for " during the War " - or five years, and which he is not quite certain - When he arrived in the country, and at the time he enlisted he could neither speak nor understand the English language, and owing to that cause as well as from age and infirmity, and consequent loss of memory he has now but an imperfect recollection of the names of the officers under whom he served, and of the particulars, and cannot pretend to routine accuracy as to names, dates or chronological order - He will proceed however to narrate such facts as he can now remember - He enlisted at Lancaster in

the siege of Parris Island in the fall of the year 1775. [to the best of his recollection but possibly it was in 1776.] either to serve for five years during the war; in the company commanded by Col. Jones - the Regiment was part of the time commanded by Col. Evans - He recollects a Lieutenant Smith in his company - Col. Anthony Wayne was the Commander of the Regiment part of the time before he was made General - There was a French Col. whose name he cannot remember who was at one time Commander of the same Regiment - He was killed at the battle of Germantown, and was Commander of the Regiment at the time - He remembers to have seen General Washington in the Battle at Germantown - Deprecal stated that he cannot from the full state of his memory, pretend to give a detail of his services, but stated that he was in the course of his service in the following places and Battles - viz - He was in the Battle of Germantown - in the Battle of White Plains (he thinks it was called) in New Jersey Was at the taking of Strong Point by Gen. Wayne He was in the Battle of Brandywine (Captain Jones - And the French Col. who was before mentioned (and who was afterwards killed at Germantown) were both at this battle with us - He remembers that at this battle Genl. Washington Rode a Gray Horse that his aide camp was killed in the battle and a servant assisted to bury him - and he remembers that in circuit and old - He was ordered to assist, to bury the dead (men), and he was unwilling to do it, as he did not like

to touch a dead body, at this the officer in com- mand struck him with a sword and obliged him to proceed, and he accordingly did. — Was in the Battle of Princeton New Jersey — at a battle on Long Island — He was at the Battle of Monmouth — He was in an engagement at Red Bank below Philadelphia at the time the British broke chain across the River and came up to Philadel- phia — in this engagement he was wounded by a Musket Ball in the neck, (and which was the occasion of losing one of his eyes) and was taken prisoner by an enemy in the big road, by some light horsemen who took him to Philadelphia and was kept a prisoner in the State House in Philadelphia — He was afterwards taken to New York and remained a prisoner to the end of the War then He was exchanged; and received a discharge when the War was over from Capt Evans or Shoemaker — (He states that he remembers as a Captain Shoemaker and Col. Davis under whom he served part of the time — He also was in the Battle of Red Bank near Phila: the Paoli where the British got the countersign — where the Company was nearly all killed) He says the Genl Wayne had left the troops and was gone to his house at the time of the surprise — He states that he served during the whole of the War and encountered many hardships, and was in many Battles which he cannot now recollect. He states that his discharge was lost many years ago — His name is not on the Pension roll of any State and he hereby relinquished every claim to a Pension except

He was born he thinks in the year 1752 but is not sure - He has no record of his age - is is over eighty years of age but does not pretend to give his exact age.
John H. H. Moore
Sworn to and subscribed before me this 28th day of April A.D. 1834.
William O. Bannan an ap. judge
The seal of Ohio Licking County ss.
I William O. Bannan one of the judges of the court of Common Pleas of said County of Licking do certify that the foregoing declaration of John Moore a revolutionary soldier on this day made and subscribed by him before me ; and that I believe him to be of the age of eighty years and upwards; that from the manner of telling his story; and from my investigation of the matter I am fully satisfied that he did serve in the Revolutionary War as he states and is entitled to a pension. He is very old and infirm and is unable to appear in court to make a Reclaration.
Given under my hand and seal of said County this 28th day of April A.D. 1834.
William O. Bannan an ap. judge

May 12, 1951.
Miss Edna M. Hoover
Linior, Oregon.
Rev. & 1812 War Section APP:TEL on
Dear Madam:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 4211, that John, of John George Hoover, Hoover or Huber, was born in 1755 in Germany, and emigrated to America in 1775 and landed in Philadelphia.
While residing in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, he enlisted in the fall of 1775 or in 1776, and served five years as a private in Captain Jones', Shoenberger's and Huns' Companies and Colonel Huns', Anthony Wayne's and Boyd's Pennsylvania Regiments. He was in the battles of Long Island, White Plains, Princeton, Brandywine, Red Bank, Germantown, Red Bank, where he was wounded in the neck, lost an eye, and was captured and exchanged; after which, he was in the battles of Monmouth and Stony Point.
He was allowed pension on his application executed April 22, 1831, while a resident of Licking County, Ohio, having moved there from Virginia, that part which is now West Virginia.
He died October 8, 1831, in Mount Township, Licking County, Ohio.
The soldier married in 1778 or 1781, in Chester County, Pennsylvania, Barbara, who was born March 12, 1754, and was a sister of Frederick Smith, John C. Smith and Mrs. Catherine Ream.
The widow, Barbara, was allowed pension on her application

executed October 26, 1888, at which time she was living in Licking County, Ohio.
They had fourteen children. The only names stated are: Andrew, born March 27, 1788; Deborah; Charles and Henry.
Very truly yours,
R. W. MORAN, Acting Commissioner.

Pay  WIDOW, &c.
File No. 4991
Barbara Hoover Wid.
John Hoover Box Rev: W
Act: Feb. 24/48
Index: — Vol. 64 , Page 342
[Arrangement of 1870.]
14. May 23: Sirt to Mrs. Nancy Morrow: Letter in 8.7. 2641 Andrew Huber. M.B.H 930 - Aug. 6 - Hirt to Lillian Palmer awd. 31 - May 18 - Hirt to Luke M. Hoover her letter in John's necro over W. 8220 awd.

Barbara Hoover of John Ohio
Suspended
let. 30 Sept 1840
Rev. M. Coffey
off Aug 1840 to do
let. 10 March 1842 P.
J. Mathis same apt
7. 1842. let to Rev. Coffey Sept 23 '42 " to Rev. H. C. Lane May 9 '43 " " Rev. D. Harper May 17 '44 " " Rev. C. Delano Mar 18 '46
Acty July 1838

Jul. 6th C. Delano April 9th 1846

1808. Ohio  Bi
Barbara Moore widow of John Moore who was a Private in the Revolution
Husband died 8th Oct. 1834
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.
Certificate of Pension issued the 19th day of June, 1846 and sent to
Wm. C. Delano
Name of Rep't
[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book Vol. 2.
By Wm. C. Delano 1844 Page 204
Reported

Ohio 10.077
Reported
Barbara Hoover
Widow of John Hoover who was a pensioner under the Act of 1832 and who died on the 8th October, 1834, of Licking in the State of Ohio who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain [Name] of the Regt commanded by Col. Wayne in the Revolution line for 2 years
Inscribed on the Roll of Cincinnati at the rate of 80 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 19 day of June, 1846 and per John L. Deane
Total amount, $ 400.00
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Recorded by Thos. D. Cumplin Clerk, Book D Vol. 1. Page 1389

Phila. May 27. 1834
Dr Sir.
I herewith return to you the papers of Mr George Banister for a pension as a Revolutionary soldier. With all the testimony which the old man can procure to establish his services. It will be perceived that the certificate of Mr Phelps only goes to establish, with any degree of certainty only the first term mentioned in the application.
Mr Phelps states that the officer is mistaken in stating that he served under Captain Deman who belonged to Col. Waterbury's Regiment.
The name as mentioned by Banister is Dennan but if it be the same person, it is easy to see that at this period the old man might be easily mistaken in that fact . Having served under several Captains, at several periods and being familiar with the names of many, under whom he did not serve, it is not at all unlikely, that , considering his advanced age that he would make a mistake of the kind. You will see also that the first term of service mentioned as his was according to Mr Phelps seven months .
I have taken some trouble in behalf

of this application, as the old man is entirely illiterate and unable to labor - His wife lives with him and by her exertions principally contributes to their support. The testimony here adduced is not sufficient to establish positively the services of the old man, but will be considered sufficient to remove beyond any reasonable doubt that he did serve in the war of the rebellion sufficient to entitle him to a full pension.
I also send you the claim of John John Boover for a pension. This old man lives in a remote part of the country of looking and neglected preparing his claims until the present time. He is a Dutchman and speaks english very imperfectly and therefore his story has not been told in strict chronological order. As he was a regular soldier I suppose his name will be found on the Roll of the army .
(E. A. Caffer)
Direct to Newark Ohio

Washington May 14. 44
May 16 1844
Hon. Abt. Harper.
Enc. letter of W.W. Blake asking answers to summary pension cases.
Referred to Mr. Edwards.
who will please observe that there are two or three cases mentioned in which answers are requested.
W. W.
Ms. 404. See May 16/44
Pension Office

Washington City
May 14 1944
Sir
I received the accompanying letters two or three days ago, and forwarded them with the request that I may receive as soon as is convenient an answer. I have no copy of the matter except what is stated in the letters, may I also call the attention of the Department of Navy as was the custom of a Revolutionary period, before, her papers were forwarded. Early in the affair, also to the application of Frank Lockitch, I was wrote to the Department from weeks ago in relation to the claim of Mrs Knapp of Berkeley City, claiming as Jenkins, and addition information in regard to the claim of Mrs Hovey, and raised the objection as to the proof if any such be stated, I desire the early attention of the Department to these claims.
With great respect to you
Hope Mr. Melick is very well
Yours sincerely A. L. Chapman

Washington City March 16 th To the Commissioner of Patents Sir
Enclosed you find a letter from Mr. M. Soffer Esq making certain inquiries in relation to which I desire your advice, please return the enclosed letter to me
J. L. Edwards Esq Washington City D.C.
Very respectfully Your ob t Serv t H. A. Moore

Washington City DC
March 6. 1846
Hon
J. S. Edwards
Com Pension
Will you be so good as to transmit to me papers making Barbara Hoovers application for a pension. They were filed some five years since and are from Licking Co Ohio
Please note the deficiency
I am desired to ask for copies of the papers necessary for heirs of deceased widows (who were pensioners) to draw the arrear of pension due such widows. I am called upon for two copies of such forms and will feel obliged for them if in your office. I am requested also to ask at what agency Edward Wholey was paid his pension; he is now deceased.
Yours Obediently C. Dillane

Miss Lucy D. Ohio
(Prison Class)
Rev. Frederick Douglass American Anti-Slavery Washington City D.C.

Newark 1 st Apr. 25. 1840
J. S. Edwards Esq
Some time since I forwarded to you, the papers of where  the  the  of Sarah Boyer and Mrs. Hoover applicants under the Pension law of 7 th July 1838. Will you please have the goodness to let me know by return mail, whether they have come to hand and if so - how soon they will probably be acted upon - they are anxious to hear something on the subject and I am very desirous to satisfy them that the papers are safe.
I am very Respectfully Yrs Abt. St. P.
M. M. Griffith 3

April 27 th 1849.
Mrs. D. Duncan.
Left the enclosed letter to him from Saml. M. Bancroft and a deposition of Barbara Moore for the purpose of ob- taining a pension.
7808 0
✓ Ref d to Comm ee of Pensions who will supply to Mr. D. Dept y of Interi r Apl 28/49.
April 27/49
Cooke

The State of Ohio Fairfield County ss
Be it known that before me Andrew Foust a Justice of the peace in and for the county aforesaid personally appeared Catharine Ream of said county aged as she thinks, Seventy one years. One of the Sisters of Barbara Hoover of Licking County State of Ohio who being duly sworn states that to the best of her belief her sister the said Barbara was lawfully Married to John Hoover (late a pensioner of the U.S.) that she recollects of her sister the said Barbara and John Hoover in company with some of her uncles and Aunts leaving her father's house in Chester County State of Pennsylvania for the purpose of being Married and of their returning home after the Marriage she cannot now recollect the day month or year in which the Marriage took place but recollects it was shortly after the war broke up thinks it was not so late as the 1 st of January 1894 before they were Married. She states that from the time the said John Hoover and her sister were Married they continued to reside together until his death and have always been reputed and acknowledged as husband and wife and that they have raised a very large family of children and further saith not Sworn & Subscribed this 24 th day of June A.D. 1840 before me. Catharine her Ream mark
Andrew Foust Justice of the Peace
I certify that I am acquainted with Catharine Ream whose name is subscribed to the above affidavit and that she is a person of credibility. Andrew Foust J.P.

The State of Ohio (J William Manson Clerk Pro Tem Fairfield County) of the Court of Common Pleas within for the County of said do hereby certify that And in Trust Esq. before whom the within affidavit was made & who had certified as within is now & was at the time of taking such affidavit an acting Justice of the of this county Peace, duly sworn qualified as such a according to law & that to all his official acts as such full faith & credit are due ought to be given in Indictment therefor as well in the United States as elsewhere. And I further certify that the within signatures purporting to be his are genuine. In testimony whereof I have here set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Lancaster this 25 th day of June A.D. 1840. Attest William Manson Clerk Pro Tem for J. Radbough J.P.

Repetition of Catherine Ream
on
Barbara Hoovers
Application
Add proof Barbara Hoover

Mr. M. Guffey's Letter
to
Hon. C. Delano J. P. R.
Hon J. L. Edwards will please examine the addendum proof here presented in the Case of Barbara Haven & inform me of the conclusion
Yr. Obt Servt
June 10/46 P Orleans

Newark Octay 30. 1846
Dear Sir
I herewith send to your care, the Declarations of Andrew Livingston and Charles Hoover , which you will please lay before the Department. — And while, with the testimony already on file, it does seem to me, ought to be sufficient to establish Mrs Hoover's Claim . — If I were competent I would try and furnish you with an argument, submitting my views in support of the Claim, but lacking the ability to do so, from want of education (not having went to School since I was fourteen years of age) I must beg of you, the favor to present the case before the Department, as you may think it merits. — I assure you I have no very exalted notions, of my own ability, and always feel a delicacy, in submitting my views, upon any question, the subject matter of which, I know, must be subjected to the inspection, and criticism of those, so much better qualified to judge of the merits of the question, than myself.
I have for some years past officiated, as Agent for most of the Pension in this County. — The Department, I have no doubt are greatly annoyed from the numerous Agents throughout the Country — and that there are prejudices, probably entertained against many of them, I have almost little doubt.
So far however as I have been concerned, I can assure the Department that I have in no instance undertaken to patch or bolster up a case, farther than, to try and place it, in such light, as the facts, in the case would substantially justify. — After the passage of the Law of 1838. I was applied to, on behalf of Mrs. Hoover, to attend to the business for her. — And except, to do her justice in the discharge of my duty. — I aver that I have no farther interest in the matter than this. If she succeeds I expect to receive a reasonable compensation for my trouble, and nothing more. — There never has been a word of dispute between Mrs. Hoover or with any other person on her behalf, on that subject farther than this, that I should be paid what would satisfy me for my trouble, or in substance about to that amount. — I am on terms of friendship with the family, and shall leave it entirely to the liberality of the old Lady, by and with the advice, of her friends, to allow me what they my think will be right. — If the Claim is finally rejected, I shall get nothing. — She will not be able to pay me anything. — In a pecuniary view I have therefore no very great interest. — I feel well satisfied in my own mind that Mrs. Hoover, is entitled to the Claim, under the provisions of the Law — and, I believe the testimony abundantly, warrants me, in coming to that conclusion. — I now propose briefly to review the testimony, so far, as I have it in my profession, or can recollect. — I have only preserved

Copies of the Depositions of John G. & Frederick Smith.
First . I will refer to the Testimony of Mrs. Hoover as set forth in her Declaration she states that she was married to the said John Hoover in Chester Co. Pa. about the year 1784 (as she thinks) she recollects that it was shortly after the close of the war . That she continued to live with him from the time of their marriage up to the time of his death.-----[a period of about 50 years] and that she had fourteen children by him. —
John G. Smith (Her Brother) Testifies that he was present at the marriage of the said Barbara to the said John Hoover, in Chester Co. Pa. in the year 1783. near its close or in the early part of the year 1784 . that the marriage was lawfully solemnized by a Magistrate (as he believes). That said John Hoover came into the neighborhood of his father after the close of the war. Shortly after (thinks the same year) and that he was married to his sister (the aforesaid Barbara) in one or at farthest, two years afterwards . —
Frederick Smith (Her Brother) Testifies that he was quite a child when the said Barbara was married to the said John Hoover in Chester Co. Pa. was well acquainted and lived near neighbor to them in Pa. & Virginia for more than 30 years, that after the death of his (Frederick's) father the said Barbara and John Hoover shared equally with the other heirs of his father's estate.
Mrs. Ream (I think) Testified that she was quite young residing with her sister the said Barbara, at her father's house in Chester Co. Pa. when the said Barbara was married to the said John Hoover. She saw the wedding party start from her father's to go to the Magistrates for the purpose of being married. and saw them return after they were married. —
Andrew Livingston Testifies that he was 63 years old in March last, was well acquainted with the said Barbara Hoover and John Hoover and their family, in Virginia, and since they moved to Ohio is satisfied that some of their eldest children are very near his own age — that at farthest there could not be more than two or three years difference between his age and the age of Boonrod one of the sons of the said Barbara and John Hoover. — thinks there was not more than one years difference in their ages. —
Charles Hoover . states his age fifty four & states that he had two Brothers & one sister older than himself. —

I think there is a concurrence in all the testimony going to show the relation of Husband & Wife, between the said Barbara & John Hoover, and that from the time of their marriage, up to the time of his death they had continued to live with each other, as Husband & Wife [for a period of about 50 years] and were always reputed and acknowledged as such - and that they have raised a very large family of Children. -
The testimony of Andrew Livingston & Charles Hoover I think conclusively show that some of the children of the said Barbara and John Hoover, must now be at least from 60 to 63 years of age, take 63 from 1846 would place the marriage as far back as 1783 - Fixing the date of the marriage at about the time stated, in Claimant's Declaration.
John G. Smith in his testimony declares that he recollects distinctly that the said John Hoover came into the neighborhood of his father in Chester Co. Pa. after the close of the war shortly after (think the same year) and was married to his sister (the aforesaid Barbara) in one or, at furthest two years afterwards.
The marriage must consequently have taken place after the last period of Mr. Hoover's service - and I think there cannot possibly be a doubt raised from the testimony, but that the marriage must have taken place long prior to the first of January 1794. -
I Respectfully submit the foregoing, for your consideration, and in your discretion, if you should think proper to submit the same to the Department.
I wrote some 10 or 15 days ago to Harrison Hagan Esquire in Virginia requesting him to forward on to you, or to the Representative in Congress from his District (requesting him to confer with you ) the requisite testimonials in order to establish the Character and standing of John & Smith & Frederick Smith in Society. - Their Depositions were taken before him, in July 1843.
I am Very Respectfully
Your obt. St. &c.
Hon. C. O'Leary House of Representatives
all of Capt. Agents on behalf of Barbara Hoover

Mr. M. Coffey's Letter to
Hon. C. Delano J. H. R.
Hon. J. L. Edwards Will please examine the addendum proof here presented in the Case of Barbara Harris & inform me of the Conclusion
Yr. Obedient
June 10/46 C. Delano

Newark December 18 1848
Wm. D. Duncan
Dr Sir
Enclosed are the necessary papers to procure the pension of Mrs. Hoover - I have been requested to send the papers to you, and ask you to go to the agent for paying pensions, and procure the money - She will a certificate of deposit (after deducting any expenses you may incur) to be paid for the amount - You can direct to me or Charles Hoover -
Respectfully Yours
Samuel H. Bennett

Deposition of John G. Smith to accompany the application of Barbara Hoover to avail herself of the benefit of the act of Congress of 7 th of July 1838 entitled "an Act granting half pay & pensions to certain widows".
Preston County Va to wit:
This day personally appeared before me Harrison Hagans a justice of the peace in & for the aforesaid county, John G. Smith of full & lawful age & after being duly sworn deponeth & saith that he is a brother of the aforesaid applicant Barbara Hoover - that he was in now about seventy five years of age - that he was present at the marriage of the said Barbara to John Hoover in Chester county Penn a in the year 1783 near its close, or in the early part of the year 1784 - that the marriage of said Barbara & John Hoover was lawfully solemnized (as he believes) by a magistrate & that the said Barbara & John lived together as man & wife & raised a very large family & that he has no reason to believe that the legality of their marriage was ever doubted or called in question. And deponent declares that he recollects distinctly that the said John Hoover came into the neighbourhood of his father in Chester county Penn a after the close of the war - shortly after (he thinks during the same year) & that he was married to his sister, (the aforesaid Barbara) in one, or at farthest two years afterwards. And further this deponent saith not. Sworn & subscribed at Brandonville in Preston County Va. on this 25 th day of July 1843, before me
John G. Smith
Harrison Hagans Justice of the Peace
I do hereby certify that I am acquainted with the above named John G. Smith & that he is a man of credit.
Harrison Hagans J. Pean

Virginia
I John F. Byrne clerk of the County Court of Fauquier County do hereby certify that Harrison Haggard Esq. is one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said County duly commissioned & qualified as such & that the foregoing are his genuine signatures. and I do further certify that I am personally acquainted with the within noted Frederick Smith also John L. Smith and they are men of credibility
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Kingwood this 27 th day of July in the year 1843 and in the 68 th year of the Commonwealth John F. Byrne.

Preston county V a to wit:
This say personally appeared before me Harrison Hagan a justice of the peace in & for the aforesaid county, Frederick Smith, who after being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he is sixty four or sixty five years of age & that he is a brother of Widow Barbara Hoover - that he was quite a child when the said Barbara was married to John Hoover in Chester county Penn a & that he was well acquainted with the said Barbara & John Hoover & lived a near neighbor to them in Penn a & Virginia for more than thirty years, & that they were always reputed as man & wife & raised a large family of children, & after the death of his (Deponent's) father, that the said Barbara & John Hoover shared equally with the other heirs of his father's estate. And finally this deponent saith that his acquaintance with the said Barbara & John was almost uninterrupted from his earliest recollections up to the time of their removal to the state of Ohio some years since, and further this deponent saith not. Sworn to & subscribed before me at Brandoonville Preston county V a July 25 th 1848. John D. Griffith Commissioner
Harrison Hagan Justice of the Peace I do hereby certify that I am acquainted with the above named Frederick Smith & that he is a man of credibility. H Hagan J. Bean

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Washington City D.C.
Rev J L Edwards
March 23 d 1846
Commissioner of Pensions
I have the honor to return you the papers of Barbara Hoover, By a copy of your letter to Mr Re Coffee dated Sept 23 1843 I find the case rejected for want of satisfactory proof as to the date of the Marriage
I have the testimony of Catharine Ream, Harrison Hagan, & Charles Hoover, [all proving the Marriage, but not the time, with certainty] to the deposition of John G. Smith.
He states, "that he is now about 70 years of age, that he was present at the marriage of the said Barbara, to John Hoover, in Chester Co. Pa in the year 1783, near its close, or in the early part of the year 1784 - that the Marriage of said Barbara and John was as he believes legally solemnised by a Mennonite &c &c"
She is entitled to the Pension whether the Marriage took place at the close of the year 1783 or in the early part of the year 1784; if
I am not in error
1846 70 76
This Marriage was solemnised in a State where no record of it was kept - To require of the witness greater certainty than is here given would it seems to me be to defeat the object of the law; at least if the parties were married in Pa The testimony of the marriage by reputation, and cohabitation is abundant, without Smith's deposition, and his testimony seems to fix the time with sufficient certainty - and he was present at the Marriage
I must beg of you to review of the case and write me Yr. Mt Servt B Delano

St. Louis Mo. Aug. 8 th 1843.
J. C. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions
Dear Sir
Enclosed I send you the Depositions of John H Smith & Frederick Smith on behalf of Barbara Hoover widow of John Hoover. which I think you find to be sufficient to establish her claim to the pension granted under the act of 7 th July 1838. and 23 rd of August 1842. & for the addition year. under a subsequent act of Congress. I am very Respectfully Your Ob t Serv t M m M m Cassin
Dear Sir
I wrote you some time in April last in reference to the claim of Esther Steele formerly Esther Knapp whose Declaration with the testimony in support of her claim is on file in the Department. I rec d your answer enclosing a form of a Declaration to be made by her in order to entitle her to the benefit of the act of July 7. 1838 and the 23 rd of August 1842.
I do not know whether I was sufficiently explicit in my letter to be understood. I had supposed that a new declaration would not be necessary My object was more particular with a view to ascertain whether the testimony in regard to her marriage accompanying her original Decla- -ration is sufficient. will you please have the kindness to advise me on that head as early as you conveniently can. Our Court will be in Session in a few weeks when she will probably attend in order to make a new Declaration.
Respectfully Yours J. C. Edwards Esq. J. C. Edwards Esq. Comm r of Pensions Oct. 11 th 1843 M m M m Cassin

Depositions to accompany the application of Barbara Hoover who is seeking to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress of the 14 th July 1838 entitled "an act granting half pay and Pensions to Certain Widows"
The State of Ohio Licking County ss Be it known that before me Mahlon Mc Caffee - one of the Justices of the peace in and for the County aforesaid personally appeared Andrew Livingston of the said County, of full and lawful age who being by me duly sworn deposes and says that he was sixty three years of age in March last - was born in Monongalia County State of Virginia, and resided there until some time after he was a man grown & married when he removed with his family into the County of Licking and State of Ohio where he has ever since continued to reside - Affiant states that said Barbara Hoover with her husband John Hoover and their family [about four or five years before he (affiant) removed from Virginia] came into Monongalia County Virginia to reside that he (affiant) lived near neighbor to them and became well acquainted with the whole family, particularly with the boys - Affiant states that the said John & Barbara Hoover with their family also removed from Virginia to the State of Ohio - he thinks about thirty years ago - Since when he has been acquainted with them has been at their house during the lifetime of Mr. Hoover tho' not being immediate neighbors to them he frequently met with different members of the family since they have resided in Ohio Affiant states that he saw & conversed with the old Lady at her son Charles Hoover in Salem Licking County Ohio a few weeks since and that he knows her to be the same person she represents herself to be - Affiant states that Thomas Hoover one of the sons of said John & Barbara Hoover was some younger than himself - but he (affiant) feels well satisfied that there could not be more than

two or three years at furthest difference in their ages - affiant thinks there was not more than one year difference in their age. -
Charles Hoover was still younger than either affiant. States that there was a sister older than Charles but cannot tell whether older than Conrad or not. Affiant states that from his earliest acquaintance with the said John and Barbara Hoover and during his whole acquaintance with them in the state of Virginia and since they came to the state of Ohio, always resided together as man and wife and have always been reputed and acknowledged as such and that they have raised a large family of children. Affiant states that he has never heard the least insinuation or doubt expressed by any person that they were not lawfully man and wife. I further saith not.
Sworn & subscribed this 5 th day of May A.D. 1846 before me M. M. Gaffey Justice of the Peace
I do hereby certify that I have been acquainted with the above named Andrew Livingston for near thirty past. He is a respectable farmer residing of the County residing about ten miles from this place (Newark) and is a person of Credibility and as far as I know or believe possesses the character of a man of veracity and respectability in the community.
M. M. Gaffey Justice of the Peace
I concur fully with Mr. M. Gaffey Esq. in relation to the character of Andrew Livingston, the above named deponent. I have been acquainted with Mr. Livingston for twenty nine years, and have no hesitation in saying that he is a man of truth and veracity. His testimony may be implicitly relied upon. I have also been acquainted with Charles Hoover for many years, he is a respectable man, whose integrity I have never been called in question, and whose reputation is above suspicion.
J. Mather

The State of Ohio Licking County ss
Before me Mr Mc Caffrey a justice of the peace of said County personally appeared Charles Hoover of said County of full and lawful age who being duly sworn states that he has no record or memorandum of his age except what he has retained in his mind, thinks he is in the 54 th year of his age but he may perhaps be one or two years older than that - was quite a child (thinks 5 or 6 years old) when his father and mother removed from Pennsylvania to the State of Virginia into Morgan Morgan County (as he thinks) near Preston County - first settled on Stony  Brook glades afterwards moved to foot of Peter Peter Mountain near the Crab Orchard, and from thence when he was about 17 or 18 years of age, they removed on to Duncords Creek where he became acquainted with Andrew Livingston whose name is signed to the preceding deposition, that said Livingston and his father and mother (the said John & Barbara Hoover) lived neighbors to each other in Virginia for some 5 or six years, when said Livingston with his family removed to the State of Ohio County of Licking - and that his (affiant's) father & mother some nine or ten years afterwards, also removed with their family into the County of Licking & State of Ohio where he (affiant) again met with said Andrew Livingston and has been acquainted with him ever since - affiant states that he has two brothers and one sister older than himself Andrew the eldest of his sister and he Conrad next. Conrad died about 6 years since. Henry he has not seen for about twelve years & does not now know where he resides affiant states that he is well acquainted with the said Andrew Livingston, and that his character & standing in society is good. Further saith not. Charles Hoover sworn & subscribed this 26 th day of May A.D. 1846 M c Caffrey Justice of the peace
I do hereby certify that I have for a number of years of age been well acquainted Charles Hoover above named and that he is a man of credibility, and whose character and standing in society is good.
Mc Caffrey Justice of the Peace

The State of Ohio Licking County ss
§ I, Gilbert Brady, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas within and for said County, do hereby certify that Mahlon M. Baffle, before whom the within depositions were taken is an acting Justice of the Peace within and for said County, duly commissioned and qualified; and that the signatures of the said Baffle within matter are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have here- unto set my name, and affixed the seal of said Court, at Newark, this 27 th day of May A. D. 1846
Gilbert Brady Clerk
Mahlon Baffle Justice of the Peace Licking County

United States of America
The State of Ohio Licking County ss
Be it known, that before me Samuel H Bancroft a justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid, personally appeared Barbara Hoover and made oath in due form of law, that she is the identical person who drew a pension under the act of the 3 rd of March 1833, on account of the revolutionary service of her husband, the late John Hoover deceased at the rate of Eighty Dollars per annum; that she now makes this affidavit for the purpose of drawing a Pension under the act of Congress passed on the 17 th day of June, 1844, entitled "An act to continue the Pensions of Certain Widows;" - that she has not intermarried, but continues to be a widow; that she now resides in the County of Licking and State of Ohio and has resided there for the space of 34 years past; and that previous thereto she resided in the State of Virginia.
Sworn to and subscribed this 18 th day of December AD 1848. Before me Samuel H. Bancroft justice of the peace W. Charles H. Hoover Olivia H. Harkness
Barbara Hoover mark
I certify that the above named affiant is personally known to me, and that she is the same individual who drew a pension as stated by her in the foregoing affidavit Samuel H. Bancroft justice of the peace
Know all men by these presents that I Barbara Hoover (widow of John Hoover dec d ) of the County of Licking and State of Ohio a Pensioner of the United States, do hereby constitute and appoint the Hon: Daniel H. Duncan, now of the City of Washington, my true and lawful attorney, for me, and in my name to receive from the Agent of the United States for paying pensions in said City of Washington, my pension from the 4 th day of March 1848 to the 4 th day of September 1848. Witness my hand and seal this 18 th day of December AD 1848. Sealed and delivered in presence of Charles H. Hoover Barbara Hoover mark
The State of Ohio Licking County ss
Be it known that on the 18 th day of December AD 1848, before the subscriber a justice of the peace in and for said County, personally appeared Barbara Hoover

herein above named and acknowledged the foregoing power of Attorney to be her act and deed. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand the day and year last above mentioned.
Samuel H. Bancroft Justice of the peace
The State of Ohio Licking County
I Gilbert Bracy Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County do hereby certify that Samuel H. Bancroft Esquire before whom the foregoing affidavit & acknowledgment was made was at the time of so doing one of the Justices of the peace of said County, duly Commissioned and qualified as such according to law, that his Commission bears date on the _____ day of _____ and will expire on the _____ day of _____ A.D. 18____ and that the foregoing signatures of the said Samuel H. Bancroft, purporting to be his are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my Office this 18 th day of December A.D. 18____.
Gilbert Bracy Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County

John Brown Ohio
for 1776 p 2 yrs $80
on Roll.
A. H. Coffee. Newark. Ohio.

The State of Ohio Licking County ss
I Amos A. Caffe of the court of common pleas of said county, do hereby certify that William O. Cannon Esq before whom the foregoing declaration of John Hoover (was made) as now and was at the time one of the judges of the court of common pleas of said county duly commissioned and qualified to act as such to whom full faith and credit are due and ought to be given in all courts of record and elsewhere and that the said court is a court of record having a common seal - and that the foregoing are all the proceedings had before him -
Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said county this 28 th day of April AD 1834
A. A. Caffe

IN REPLY REFER TO
3-2562
Rev. and 1812 Wars Section.
AWF/eel
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS WASHINGTON
January 23, 1930
Lillian S. Palmer 201 W. Church Street Newark, Ohio
Dear Madam:
I advise you that the data furnished by you are not sufficient to enable this bureau to make intelligent reply to the queries contained in your letter.
Please fill out such of the blank spaces below, as the information in your possession will permit, and return to this bureau.
First name of widow .....
Full name of soldier ..... John Hoover
Residence of soldier at enlistment Penna
Residence of soldier after service Licking Co. Ohio
Name of state from which he enlisted Penna
Approximate date of birth 1754
Approximate date of death .....
Kindly return attached letter with your reply.
Respectfully,
Earl D Church
EARL D. CHURCH Commissioner.
Pensioned 1834 Licking Co. Ohio - Buried Newark. O - It is said his wife survived him

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of John or John George Hoover, Hover or Heuber a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pension on file in this Bureau. N. 4991
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Fall 175 or 76 5 years Pvt. Jones Evans Penn.   Shoemaker Anthony Wayne   Evans Davis   He was in the battles of Long Island, White Plains, Princeton, Brandywine, Paoli, Germantown, Red Bank where he was wounded and lost an eye and was captured, Monmouth and Stony Point  
Battles engaged in, see above
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Lancaster Co. Penn.
Date of application for pension, Apr. 28, 1834. His claim was allowed
Residence at date of application, Licking Co. Ohio - He acquired a claim from his daughter's husband
Age at date of application, born in 1752 in Germany; emigrated to America in 1775
Remarks: He died in Newark Township, Licking Co. O. Oct 8, 1834; he married in Chester Co. Penn. in 1783 or 1784 Barbara (born Mch 12, 1764) sister of Frederick Smith and she was allowed pension on an ap. ex. Oct 26, 1838 while a resident of Licking Co. O. They had 14 children: Andrew G. Mch 27, 1785; Goonrood; Charles; Henry only names stated!
Respectfully,
48-1532 yes. [initials] G. [initials] note
He would not have been kept a pension Commissioner. until the end of war if captured at battle of Red Bank which was Oct 22, 1777. Because he afterwards was in battles of Monmouth & Stony Point, so omit length of captivity
Captain's Account - 1 Mch 25. Smith -

August 6, 1930
Rev.& 1812 Wars Section ANP:MLB
Lillian S. Palmer 201 W. Church Street Newark, Ohio
Dear Madam:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 4981, that John, or John George Hoover, Hover or Haber, was born in 1738 in Germany, and emigrated to America in 1773 and landed in Philadelphia.
While residing in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, he enlisted in the fall of 1775 or in 1776, and served five years as a private in Captains Jones', Shoemaker's and Evans' Companies and Colonels Evans', Anthony Wayne's and Davis' Pennsylvania Regiments. He was in the battles of Long Island, White Plains, Princeton, Brandywine, Paoli, Germantown, Red Bank, where he was wounded in the neck, lost an eye, and was captured and exchanged; after which, he was in the battles of Monmouth and Stony Point.
He was allowed pension on his application executed April 28, 1854, while a resident of Licking County, Ohio, having moved there from Virginia, that part which is now West Virginia.
He died October 8, 1854, in Newark Township, Licking County, Ohio.
The soldier married in 1783 or 1784, in Chester County, Pennsylvania, Barbara, who was born March 12, 1764, and was a sister of Frederick Smith, John G. Smith, and Mrs. Catherine Ream.
The widow, Barbara, was allowed pension on her application

executed October 26, 1888, at which time she was living in Licking County, Ohio.
They had fourteen children. The only names stated, are: Andrew, born March 27, 1785; Coonrood; Charles and Henry.
Very truly yours
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner