Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 1857, Thomas Hall, Penn.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Penn.
Hall, Thomas
W 1857
Amy
B.L.H. 26522-160-55
CONTENTS

Stites Jenkins from, 16" 185 " " " 22" 11 " " " 6" " " " " 9" " 3rd Feb 30 no 438
Vol H 1, page 28
1880 Feb March 3 185 Read " 24/185 Amy Hall wid of Thomas Hall private Capt Brim. Col. Rev. Chan Enr. Dis. Revolutionary War at 16th Dec, May, 1875 B. G. Hall
Daniel Jenkins Albany N.Y.

York 28.744
Thomas Hall
who was a Private in the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Newman of the Reg't by Col. J. Haas in the Pennsylvania for 14 months
Enscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 46 Dollars 67 Cents per an to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 3 d day of Jan 1834 and sent to H. H. G. Y. Lansing House
Arrears to the 14th of March '34 $140.01 Semi-ann. allowance ending Sep't 4 '34 23.33
$163.34
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832
Recorded by Saml H. Page Book E Vol. 4 Page 112

255
New York A Amy Hall, widow of Thomas, Hall
1853
who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a private Pennsylvania line
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 46 dollars 67 cents per annum, to commence on the 3d February, 1853.
Certificate of Pension issued 19 th day of May 1853. and sent to
Dam e H Marks. Albany N. York
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 3, 1853, Page 75. Vol. A
Reg 3 Mar 56. 12.880.

No 1153 Thomas Hall's
Deposition July 21 - 1832 Personal Office
THE DEPOSITION OF THOMAS HALL 1832
DO HEREIN

DECLARATION
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress, passed June 7, 1832.
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COUNTY of Albany } ss.
On this Eighteenth day of July 1832, personally appeared before the Justices of the Justices Court of the City of Albany, Thomas Hall , formerly of the Township of Darby in the State of Pennsylvania now a resident of the City of Albany in the county of Albany and state of New York aged Seventy Seven years  to  to years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832.— That he enlisted in the army of the United States in the year 1776, with Captain Josiah Harman, then of the City of Philadelphia and served in the first Pennsylvania regiment of the line, under the following named officers: the Colonel of the said Regiment, was De Haas, and  the Captain was Josiah Harman; that his Lieutenants were, Moor and Dawson; that he served for the term of one year, and was honorably discharged in the City of Philadelphia, by Captain Harman in writing; but the Declarer says, that the said discharge has since been destroyed and worn out: That he was then enrolled as a militia man in the City of Philadelphia, and served for one year more. He then entered on board of a public armed vessel, called the Rising Sun, Commissioned by authority of Congress, and after serving on board of that vessel for about three weeks, was cast away in her— After which he left the State of Pennsylvania, and removed to the State of New York and has resided in the City of Albany ever since.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
J. G. Watson C.M. Thomas Hall
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states.
I John G. Watson, Clerk of the Justices Court of the City of Albany DO HEREBY CERTIFY, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of Thomas Hall for a pension.
IN TESTIMONY whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this Eighteenth day of July 1832.
J. G. Watson C.M.

DECLARATION
City of Albany Is - On this 18 th July 1832 before the Justices of the justice court of the city of Albany, in open court, personally appeared James Van Ingen, of the said city, to this court well known, who being duly sworn, doth say, that he is well and intimately acquainted with Thomas Hall, who hath subscribed hereto to the within declaration and that since his acquaintance with him which has been for thirty five years past part, and that he has always sustained the character of an honest, sober and industrious man, and fully entitled to the reputation of a man of strict truth and veracity. -
Sworn in open Court this day Year aforesaid J. G. Wapson Clerk
J. A. Van Ingen

Marriage Certificate
Thomas Hall
to Amey Halsey
Aug 28 th
1873.
1873 Aug 28

I hereby certify that Mr. Thomas Hall of the City of Albany was married to Mrs. Arney Halsey of the same place on the 21 st day of August One thousand Eight Hundred and Thirteen by me
Jno McDonald one of the ministers of said City
Agree 69.
Rev. J. McDonald Minister of Gospel Albany N.Y.

State of New York. Albany Justice's Court Jess On this twelfth - day of March, in the year One thousand eight hundred and fifty three, before the Justice's Court of the city of Albany, (the same being a court of Record) personally appeared Amy Walls, a resident of the city of Albany, in the County of Albany and State of New York, aged sixty nine years, who being duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the 2 d section of the act of Congress, entitled "An Act, to continue half pay to certain Widows and Orphans" approved February 3 d 1853
That she is the Widow of Thomas Wall who was a private in the Army of the Revolution, and at the time of his death a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress passed Jan. 7 th 1832, at the rate of $46 87 per annum -
She further declares that she was married to the said Thomas Wall on the Twenty first day of August, in the year One thousand Eight hundred and Thirteen - That her husband the aforesaid Thomas Wall died on the twenty second day of August, in the year One thousand Eight hundred and Thirty six at his residence in the city of Albany aforesaid.
That she was not married to the said Thomas Wall prior to the second day of January - Eighteen hundred, but the marriage took place subsequent to January Anno Domini Eighteen hundred to wit, at the time above stated -
She further declares that she was married to the said Thomas Wall in the city of Albany in the State of New York, and the marriage ceremony was performed by the Rev d Mr c Donalds

One of the Ministers of said city whose certificate is herunto annexed
She further declares that she was formerly the widow of Hezekiah Walsy, and that at the time of her marriage to the said Thomas Hall her name was Walsy - That ever since the death of her late husband, the said Thomas Hall, she has remained, and now is a widow, and that she has never, previous to her making this Declaration, applied for a Pension Subscribed and sworn to in open court, on the day and year first above written In witness whereof
her
Amy X Hall
(mark)
I have herunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said Justice Court H. P. Nugent Clerk

State of New York Albany Justice Court ss - I Henry P. Nugent clerk of the Justice's Court of the city of Albany (the same being a Court of Record) do hereby certify that Satisfactory evidence has this day been exhibited to the said Court, That Thomas Wall, late of the city of Albany N.Y., who was a pensioner of the United States under the act of Congress passed Jan-7 th 1832, at the rate of $46 67 per annum, died at his residence in said city of Albany on the Twentysecond day of August in the year One thousand eight hundred and thirty six, leaving a widow, whose name is Amy, and that she is now living in said city of Albany - And that the said Amy still remains the widow of the aforesaid Thomas Wall accused
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Justice's Court this 10 th day of March A.D. 1853
H. P. Nugent Clerk

Application of
Amy Hall Revolutionary
FOR BOUNTY LAND,
Under act March 3, 1855. Sec. 8,
Claims 160 acres.
PRESENTED BY LEMUEL JENKINS, Albany, N. Y.

DECLARATION
Of a REVOLUTIONARY Widow who claims a Land Warrant under Act of March 3, 1855.
State of New York, }
City and County of Albany. }
On this twentieth day of March A. D. one thousand eight hundred and fifty-five, personally appeared before me, a Commissioner of Deeds within and for the city, county and state aforesaid Mary Hall aged seventy one years, a resident of the City of Albany in the State of New York, who being duly sworn according to law, declares that she is the widow of Thomas Hall deceased, who was a Private in the Revolutionary War, that he enlisted and served in Pennsylvania, as she has understood - she cannot give any particulars of his services, as she became acquainted with him several years afterwards - That he was a Pensioner under the act of 7 June 1832 - and this Declaration is a pensioner under the 2 nd Section of the act of 3 rd February 1853; her Pension Certificate bears, date the 19 th day of May 1853 - No. 435. That the proof of her marriage is now on file in the Pension Office at Washington - with the other proofs on which her said Pension was granted.
She further states that she was married to the said Thomas Hall in the City of Albany, on the twenty fifth day of August A. D. 1813 by one John McDonald a Presbyterian Minister and that her name before her said marriage was Mary Belsy. She was then a Widow that her said husband died at Albany on the 21 st or 22 nd day of August A. D. 1836, and that she is now a widow. She is a Presbyterian in her creed. She also states that she never learned to write.
She makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining the bounty land to which she may be entitled under the act approved March 3, 1855, and she hereby requests the Commissioner of Pensions to forward her warrant to LEMUEL JENKINS, Albany, N. Y., and appoint him my attorney to receive the same for me.
Witness to her signature by Lemuel Jenkins Mary Hall We Lemuel Jenkins and Thomas Hall residents of the City of Albany in the state of New York upon our oaths declare, that the foregoing declaration was signed and acknowledged by Mary Hall in our presence, and that we believe from the appearance and statements of the applicant that she is the identical person she represents herself to be. We further declare that her husband was well known to both of us, and that we have no doubt of her identity, being well acquainted with her. Lemuel Jenkins Thomas Hall
The foregoing declaration and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me, on the day and year above written, and I certify that I know the affiants to be credible persons, that the claimant is the person she represents herself to be, and that I have no interest in this claim.
James P. Landry Clerk of Deeds

State of New York, } City and County of Albany. } I, Robert Harper Clerk of the said county, do hereby certify that James B. Lander was, on the day of the date of the foregoing certificate, a Cornispine of Reed within and for the said County, duly appointed and qualified, and that the signature thereto, purporting to be his, is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto affixed my seal of office and subscribed my name this 21 st day of March A. D. 1855.
R Harper Clerk

April 5, 1938
Thomas Hall W. 1857 BA-J/AWT aw
Mr. Robert W. Allen 199 West Pearl Street Coldwater, Michigan
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Elias Doty of Dutchess County, New York, who died in 1806, and of Thomas Hall of New York, or Connecticut.
The Revolutionary War records of this office have been searched and no claim for pension found based upon the service of an Elias Doty (Doughty) who died in 1806.
The record of Thomas Hall which follows was obtained from papers on file in pension claim, W. 1857, based upon his service in the War of the Revolution. This is the record of the only Thomas Hall of New York, found on file in the Revolutionary War records of this office, and said records afford no information in regard to Thomas Hall of Connecticut.
Thomas Hall was born February 17, 1755, place not stated, nor were the names of his parents shown. He lived during the Revolution in the State of Pennsylvania.
Thomas Hall, while an apprentice to Samuel Lewis, a miller of Upper Darby, about ten miles from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, enlisted in Philadelphia, sometime in January, 1776, served as private in Captain Josiah Harmar's company in Colonel DeHaas' Pennsylvania regiment, was in the expedition

to Canada, and in the battles of Three Rivers, Sorrel River, Lake Champlain, and was discharged at Philadelphia, having served one year. After this service, Thomas Hall was a guard under Lieutenant Claypole, in Philadelphia at the "New Jail", two months. He went on board( date not given) the "Rising Sun", an armed vessel, and after about three weeks, "were cast away at Cape May".
Thomas Hall moved from Pennsylvania in the year 1781 to Albany, New York. He was allowed pension on his application executed July 18, 1832, then a resident of Albany, New York. He died at his residence in the City of Albany, August 22, 1836.
Thomas Hall married August 21, 1813 in Albany, New York, Mrs. Amy Halsey, widow of Mezekiah Halsey. The maiden name of the said Amy was not given, nor were the date and place of her birth shown.
The widow, Amy Hall, was allowed pension on account of the service of her husband, Thomas Hall, on her application executed March 10, 1853, at which time she was sixty-nine years of age, and a resident of Albany, New York. She was allowed, also, one hundred sixty acres of bounty land, on her application executed March 20, 1855.
Thomas Hall, son of the soldier, Thomas Hall, and his wife, Amy, was thirty-eight years of age in 1853, and a resident of Albany, New York.
The papers on file in this claim contain no further discernible family data.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid, and possibly the date of death of this widow, Amy Hall, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General

Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C., and furnish the following data-
Amy Hall, widow of Thomas Hall Certificate # 435 Issued May 19, 1853 Rate $46.67 per annum Commenced February 3, 1853 Act of February 3, 1853 New York Agency.
In order to obtain information in regard to location of the land referred to herein, you should apply to The Commissioner of the General Land Office, Washington, D. C, and cite the following-
Warrant # 26522- 160 acres- Act of 1855.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

WIDOW, &c.
No. 1853 Any Hall Widow Thomas Hall, Mrs Rev. Wm.
Oct. 16 S. 1853.
Index: — Vol. 2 Page 301
[Arrangement of 1870.]
see slip on other side of this jacket.
1916 July 25: (2 pages) photostat copies of cif of Thos. Hall as freeman of city of Albany furnished Miss Grace M. Pierce Columbia Apt. Wash. D.C. (see receipt for payment in Henry Champion, Conn. cont. S12463. and. 1936 April 5 - liish to Robert W. Allen accs

WIDOW, &c.
No. 1857 Amy Hall Widow Thomas Hall, Pine River, Maine
Oct. 16. 3. 1853.
Index:—Vol. A, Page 301
[Arrangement of 1870.]
see slip on other side of this jacket.
1916 July 23. (2 pages) Photostat copies of act of Thomas Hall as freeholder of City of Albany, Vermont Miss Grace M. Pierce, Columbia, Sept. 10. 1916. D.C. (see receipt for payment re Henry Chapman, Com. Sept. 1916. 3. 1916) 1936 April 5—link to Robert W. Allen, see

Thomas Hall
Certificate that he is a freeman of the city of Albany. in 1789.
In chiefs room
Apr 21/04
W L C
Locked up in Misc. drawer, Rev War section July 21, 1916
in file.

1216 1781 35
Widow File No 1857 Penn Thomas Hall

Know all Men by these Presents,
THAT I Ab: Yates Junr _____ Esquire, MAYOR of the CITY of ALBANY, HAVE admitted and received, and do hereby admit and receive Thomas Hall _____, to be a Freeman of the said City, to have, hold, partake and enjoy all the Rights, Liber- ties, Priviledges, Franchises and Advantages belonging to a Freeman and Citizen of the said City. IN WITNESS whereof, I have set my Hand, and caused the Seal of the said City, to be hereto affixed, the Eleventh _____ Day of April _____ in the Year of our LORD One Thousand Seven Hundred and Eighty One _____ Ab: Yates Junr

truth - That he has always been since their acquaintance with him, reported to have been a Revolutionary soldier & they truly believe he was such - and that the facts stated in his declaration here attached are substantially true -
Given to & subscribed in open court this 3 d day of October 1833 J. G. Watson Clerk
Garet Lillie Jesse Lewis, Sydney

State of New York: s
Albany Justice Court) ss. Gerrit Govey and Jonathan Kidney of the City of Albany, being duly sworn, in open Court, depose and say - That they have known Thomas Hall since present in Court, the above named applicant for upwards of thirty years past - during which time he has resided in the City of Albany - that he is a man of good character for

3 New York Mary Hall widow of Thomas who served in the Revolu- war, as a Private N o 435
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 46.67 Dollars & Cents per annum, to commence the 4th day of March, 1841 3 February 1853
Certificate of Pension issued 19 1853 day of March and sent to David A. Miller Albany N.Y.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under Act of 22-1848, Page 75 Vol. A February 1857

Pension Office May 17, 1857
Sir
We pleased to say to what time Thomas Hall, a pensioner, Act 7. June 1832, at $46.67 per annum, was last paid & when he died - of Albany, N.Y.
Col. Bryan 3. Aud. Off.
R. M. Rao
Died 22 d August 1836, Paid to his death,
P. S. Bryan

26.522
160 acres

New York Rev.
Thomas Hall Suspended let to L Jenkins 16 Nov. '33 let. to L Jenkins 22. April '34
Act. of June '35

n o 513 New York Amy Hall widow of Thomas Act 3. February 1853,
Sam d H. Marks Albany N.Y.,

12,880. Accts March 3/55
Rec'd March 24/55
Army Hall widow of Thomas Hall private
Capt — — —
Col — — —
Ent — — —
Dis — — —
Revolutionary War
Adm'd 160 acres
May 15th/56
Original Bill Enclosed
Cs 26.522 May 17/56
Samuel Perkins
Albany
Ct. Ag.

Robert W. Allen 199 West Pearl Street Coldwater, Michigan
March 12, 1938.
The Pension Bureau, Veterans Administration, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs :-
Will you please advise me whether or not the records of your department contain mention of Revolutionary or 1812 War service for Thomas Hall, born April 26, 1764 ?
He was a resident of Dutchess County during the latter part of the Revolution, and may have served with either the New York or Connecticut troops. Thomas Hall was married, March 9, 1786, to Amy Doty, Daughter of Elias and Amy (Dean) Doty of Clinton, Dutchess County, New York.
Also, have you on file the Revolutionary pension Application of the Above mentioned Elias Doty ? I have been told that he applied for a pension, but died in 1806 before receiving it. Elias Doty's second wife was Mrs. Hannah Palmer Aiken, whom he married at Clinton after the death of his first wife, May 25, 1782.
The above mentioned Thomas Hall removed from Dutchess County after 1812 to Malta, Saratoga County, and later to Wolcott, Wayne County, New York, where he died December 2, 1843.
Thanking you in advance for your attention in this matter, I am,
1812 1764 48 Yours truly,
Robert W. Allen
Robert W. Allen.

State of New York
City and County of Albany ss. Bradford R. Wood Esq., of the city of Albany in the County and State aforesaid being duly sworn, Depose that he is about fifty years old; That he has resided in said city for the space of twenty years, - That he was well acquainted with Thomas Wall a revolutionary pensioner who resided in the city of Albany at the time of his death.
That the said Thomas Wall died at his residence in said city of Albany on or about the year 1836. That he left him surviving a widow whose name is "Amy," and that the said Amy is still living in the city of Albany aforesaid and remains the widow of the said Thomas Wall deceased.
Subscribed & sworn to on the 14 th day of March A.D. 1853 before me Dellitt C. DeForest
Bradford R. Wood
Commissioner of Deeds
Authorized to take affidavits
I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Bradford R. Woods, above named, and that he is a credible witness - and I further

Certify that I am not in any way interested or concerned in the claim of Amy above named Keall to a Pension —
DeWitt A De Forest
Comr of Deeds. —
Albany N.Y.

State of New-York, } ss. City and County of Albany, Clerk's Office.
I, Robert S. Lay, Clerk of the said City and County, and of the Courts of Record therein, do hereby CERTIFY, that De Witt C De Forest whose name is appended to the Affidavit of the annexed Communication of Deeds was, on the day of the date thereof, a Commissioner of Deeds in and for the City of Albany, duly authorized to administer oaths for general purposes; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said De Forest and verily believe that the signature to the said Affidavit is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my official seal, this 15 of March 18 53.
R Harper Clerk.

Albany March 15, 1853
J. E. Hutto Esq Claimant of Pensions Sir
I herewith enclose
1 st The declaration of Amy Hall widow of Thomas Hall late a Pensioner of the United States, made before a Court of Record, for the purpose of procuring a Pension under Act of Feb. 3 rd 1853, with her Marriage Certificate attached 2 nd The certificate of the Justice's court of the city of Albany as to the death of the said Thomas Hall 3 rd The affidavit of Thomas Hall, a son of the said Amy 4 th The affidavit of Zion Waverly Esq 5 th The affidavit of Bradford R. Wood Esq All of which I trust will be sufficient to establish the claim of Mrs Hall to a Pension — I am Sir
With much respect Yours Ob t Servt
Sam l H. Matthews

To J. L. Edwards Esq. Com d of Pensins.

Albany Nov r 20. 1833.
James L. Edwards Esq.
Commissioner of Pensions,
Sir, Your letter of the 16 th inst. informing me that the claim of Thomas Hall is suspended, was received yesterday - The ground of suspension is stated to be that there is no evidence in the Department of any enlistment, or term of twelve months service under Col. De Haas in 1776; and the claimant is required to produce proof to that effect -
Since your letter was received, I have seen and conversed with Mr. Hall on the subject - He states that he is positive of the fact that he did enlist for the term of one year under Capt. (afterwards General) Warner, as stated in his declaration. But that it is out of his power to produce any other proof than that already given, namely, his own oath; - for he does not know any person now living by whose testimony he could establish the fact. At the time he enlisted he was a resident of the State of Pennsylvania; - but, shortly after the services were rendered, he became a Citizen of Albany, and has ever since continued to reside here - I enclose a Certificate, which, if required, can be proved to be a genuine document, & by which it appears that he was admitted a Freeman of this City on the 11 th of April 1781 . Having ever since that time resided at a distance from that part of the country where his former associates & companions in arms resided, and not being able at this time to ascertain whether they are living or dead, it is not surprising that he is unable to

furnish the proof required. Mr. Hall is a respectable Citizen; was once possessed of considerable property - but is now poor. I mention this, not because I suppose it adds anything to the validity of his claim - but to show that his case is entitled to at least, as liberal consideration as others - And I will also add that in all the cases of claims for pensions, with which I have had anything to do, I do not recollect or know of one which is better supported by internal evidence of its truth than that of Mr. Hall, as detailed in his declaration - It was drawn by me from his dictation, and the resources of his own memory; - and I believe it will be found to be historically correct - Having this view of the case, and believing it to be as honest and fair a claim as has ever been presented to your consideration, I request, as an act of justice to Mr. Hall, that you will please to review it - And, in reference to the objection made in your letter, allow me to ask whether there is any evidence in your Department contradicting the fact of such enlistment? Or if there be, does it follow that Mr. Hall's claim should be rejected? - It may be that he is mistaken as to the term of his enlistment - It might have been an enlistment for a shorter period, and still, a service of twelve months . The main point in question is as to the length of the service , and not the period of enlistment -
It is true that when a Claimant makes a mis-statement in regard to the latter, it shows that his memory is not accurate in that respect, and it may create doubts of his veracity. But, if the other facts stated by him bear the marks of truth and credibility, should his claim be rejected? -

It appears to me this would be a sound rule - especially as applicable to transactions occurring upwards of 50 years ago.
With these remarks, I beg leave to submit the case for your re-consideration - And request, that, if rejected, I may be apprized of your decision with as little delay as may be, that application may be immediately made elsewhere for relief -
I am, Respectfully
Your obedt. Servt.
Samuel Jan King.
P. S. as Mr. Hall sets a particular value on the enclosed Certificate, please return it to me -

Albany June 18. 1855.
L. P. Waldo Esq.
Comt. of Pensions, Sir,
I have received your letter of the 16 th inst. respecting the claim (N o 12.880) of Mrs. Amy Hall, Widow of Thomas Hall, in which it is stated that "the Revolutionary service of Thomas Hall, the Husband of the applicant does not appear of Record in this Office."
I find his name on the list of Pensions under the act of June 7. 1832, on the Books of the Albany Agency, at $46 67 per annum - He was paid at that Agency from 4 Sept. 1834 to 4 March 1836 - and died on the 22 d of August 1836 - and the balance then due was paid to his Widow Amy Hall - as will be seen by reference to the Agents accounts in the Office of the Third Auditor.
He was inscribed as a Pensioner on the 3 d June 1834 - and I believe received his first payment at the New York Agency; the Albany Agency not having been established until January 1835 - when his name was transferred to that Agency.
I obtained his pension for him, and know the facts above mentioned - and my correspondence with

with Col. Edmund on the subject is on file in your office. I presume that on further search, there will be no difficulty in finding his name.
I am Sir,
with great respect
Yours obedt Servt Lemuel Jenkins.

Claim N o 12.880.
Albany July 2 d 1855.
L P. Waldo Esq. Comr. of Pensions, Sir,
I have received your reply to my letter of the 18 th of June, respecting the claim of Mary Hall Widow of Thomas Hall, stating that "record evidence" is required of his services -
Although I am somewhat surprised at the construction put upon the law, as to the meaning of the term "record evidence" in your Circular of the 3 d of April, I must, of course, acquiesce in your decision.
You will do Mr. Hall an act of justice as well as a favor, by sending me a copy of his declaration, that I may apply to the proper Office in Pennsylvania, for record evidence of his services, if any exists to.
I am, Sir,
With great respect
Yours of Serv t
Samuel Jenkins.

Copy letter from the Milly clerk in Secretary's office at Harrisburg - Pa

Secretary's Office Harrisburg July 31. 1855
General Jenkins, Esq
Your Communication to the Secretary of the Commonwealth of the 11 th inst, as well as one from Col J. B. Sutherland of the 25 th inst, were duly received at this Department, and would have received earlier attention but for the reason, that the Department has been in the daily receipt of a number of similar Communications, for some time back, and the length of time necessary to be taken, to make proper search in the premises, causes an avoidable delay. I have made a careful examination of the Records in the different Departments at this place, and the accompanying Certified Extract is the only evidence of Service to be found in any of them, for a person by the name of Thomas Hall, which does not agree with any part of the Statement made in the Commissioned letter, whether it is the same person or not it is difficult to tell — Many of the old Revolutionary papers have been lost and destroyed by time, which makes it very difficult to furnish any amount of record evidence at this late period. Very Respectfully
B. H. Chandler Widg Clerk
(Copy)

12880

Albany March 21. 1855.
L. P. Waldo Esq. Govt. of Paris Sir,
I enclose the declarations of two Widows claiming bounty land under act 3 rd March 1855 - viz - Amy Hall - Revolutionary - 160 acres Margaret Vanderbilt - War of 1812 - 120 "
I am Sir,
Very Respectfully
Yours of the Servt
Levi L. Jenkins Agents for Claimants.

Albany August 2 d 1855.
To the Commission of Pensions, Sir,
In relation to the claim of Amy Hall (N o 12.880) Widow of Thomas Hall, I enclose the Certificate of the Secretary of Pennsylvania, showing that her Husband was, in the service of the United States, as a private, on the 12 th day of July 1777, in Capt. Charles Syng's Company, Col. Sharp Delancy's Regiment.
I also enclose a copy of a letter to me from "B. H. Chandler Milly Clerk" in which he remarks that the evidence above mentioned "does not agree with any part of the statement made in the Commission's letter of July 6 th of which I had sent the Secy a copy / and "whether it is the same person or not, it is difficult to tell" —
I admit this to be so — but I do not admit that the Muster Roll contradicts Mr. Hall's declaration, or is really inconsistent with it. And I beg leave to make the following suggestions in view of the probability that the Thomas Hall named in the Muster Roll, was the same person who was the Husband of Amy Hall.
Capt. Syng's Roll shows the state of his Company on the 12 th of July 1777, but does not show when the men enlisted — They may have enlisted in 1776, as Thomas Hall alleges he did — And he and others

may have been transferred from Capt. Harman's Company & Col. De Haas's Regiment, to Capt. Syng's Company & Col. Delany's Regiment. Owing to the vicissitudes of the service, such transfers were not uncommon in the War of the Revolution, as was the case with the New- York troops of the line, when five Regiments were con- solidated into two.
It also appears by Mr. Chandler's letter that he has made "a careful examination of the Records &c" and that the Roll of Capt. Syng's Company is the only evidence of service to be found for a person by the name of Thomas Hall," from which it may reasonably be inferred that the rolls of Captain Harman's Company are not found in that Office; for if they were, the omission of his name would contradict the statement of Mr. Hall, and would be inconsistent with the statement of Mr. Chandler, the examining Clerk.
I beg leave also to call your attention to the fact noticed in Mr. Cole's letter to me of the 6 th of July, that Hall claims in his declaration to have served about two months, in the Militia, under Lieut. Claypoole. And it is worthy of remark that the first name on the list of privates in Capt. Syng's Company, is William Claypoole; and that he should afterwards have been a Lieut. of Militia, would be nothing extraordinary. At all events the coincidence of the name is remarkable, and tends to confirm Hall's declaration.

When the lapse of time between Hall's declaration and his service is considered, it will not be deemed surprising that he should have omitted many things in his declaration which if stated, would put his identity beyond all doubt, as the person of that name who served in Capt. Syng's Company.
And when it is also considered that, as Mr. Chandler remarks, "Many of the old revolutionary papers have been lost and destroyed by time, which makes it difficult to furnish any amount of Record evidence at this late date" great allowance should be made for the want of more positive evidence of identity in this case —
I am, Sir,
With great respect
Your ob d Servt
Edmund Jenkins.

Pension Office July 5 th 1835
Sir
Thomas Hall claimed in his declaration that he enlisted in 1776, under Capt Josiah Harman, of Philadelphia, & served 12 Months in the 1 st Regiment of the line, under Col. De Haas, & was discharged. That soon after his discharge he served as a guard over some prisoners in the City of Philadelphia, who were confined in the "New Jail". he served about two months, at this time in the Militia under Lieut. Claypole. That he afterwards (year not recollected) enlisted on board of an armed vessel called the "Rising sun" & was cast away some three weeks after the enlistment.
Yours Respectfully S. Cole
Lemuel Jenkins Esq. (Copy) for Commissioned Albany N.Y.

In the matter of the application of Thomas Hall for a Pension under the act of June 7. 1834
Affidavits -
One of the Sub's count this 27 th day of May 1834 By the bond John G. Watson Clerk

State of New York
Albany Justice's Court } ss.
Be it known that on the 10 th day of May 1834, before the Justice's Court of the City of Albany, (the same being a Court of Record) personally appeared Thomas Hall of said City, an applicant for a Purvis under the act of Congress of June 7, 1832, who being duly sworn, deposed & saith, that on the 11 th day of April 1781 he was admitted to the freedom of the City of Albany, as will appear by a certificate thereof now on file in the Purvis office at Washington - That the reason or cause of his being so admitted was, that at that time he was carrying on the business of a butcher, and it was required  required by the then existing laws of said City of Albany, that no person should be admitted to carry on certain trades therein, and among others the trade of a butcher, unless he was first admitted to the freedom of the City, and paid a certain prescribed sum for such privilege -
That that in order to obtain such admission it was also required by the Mayor that the person admitted should produce satisfactory credentials of good character, with all which conditions this deponent complied -
Thomas Hall
Given this 10 th day of May 1834 in open Court John G. Watson Clerk
State of New York
Albany Justice's Court } ss.
Be it known that on the 27 th day of May 1834, before the Justice's Court of the City of Albany, (the same being a Court of Record) personally appeared Abraham Van Vechten Esq. to the said Court well known, who being duly sworn, deposed & saith, that he has known the above named Thomas Hall for many years, and that he has always, so far as this deponent has ever heard, sustained the character of an honest & good

Abraham Van Vechten
Citizen -
Said in open Court this 27 th day of May 1834
J. G. Wason Clerk
State of New York Albany Justice's Court } ss.
Be it known that on the 10 th day of May 1834, personally appeared before the Justice's Court of the City of Albany, (the same being a Court of Record) Isaac Dennisson of said City, well known to the Court, who being duly sworn, saith that he has known the within named Thomas Hall as a resident of said City, for more than forty years past - and that so far as is known to this Deponent, said Hall has always sustained the character of an honest, industrious man and a good Citizen - and this Deponent believes his statements to be entitled to credit.
Said this 10 th day of May 1834 in open Court John G. Wason Clerk
Isaac Dennisson
This may certify that Abraham Van Vechten Esq & Isaac Dennisson are both Citizens of Albany well known to the court and are credible witnesses
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of the said court this 27 th day of May 1834 By the Court
John G. Wason Clerk
For the matter of the application of Thomas Hall for a Dennisson under the act of June 7. 1834
affidavits -

State of New York } City & County of Albany } ss. Gideon Hawley of the city of Albany in the state of New York, being duly sworn according to law, Deposeth and saith, that he is 67 years old, that he has resided in the said city of Albany for the space of 42 years last past, — That he was well acquainted with Thomas Hall, late a resident of said city, now deceased, That at the time of his death the said Thomas was a Pensioner of the United States.
This deponent further saith that the said Thomas Hall died at his late residence in the city of Albany in the year Eighteen hundred and thirty six, in the summer of that year, That he left a widow whose name is Amy, with whom this deponent is also well acquainted — That ever since the death of her husband, the said Thomas Hall, she has remained, and now is a widow, and that she now resides in the city of Albany aforesaid.
Subscribed and sworn to on this 11 th day of March A.D. 1853 before me
Gideon Hawley
H. S. McCall Commissioner
I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with the above named Gideon Hawley Esq r , and that he is a credible witness —
And I further certify that I am not in any way interested or concerned in the claim of Amy Hall to a pension —
H. S. McCall Commissioner

State of New-York, City and County of Albany, Clerk's Office.
} ss.
Harper
I, Robert S. Lay , Clerk of the said City and County and of the Courts of Record therein, do hereby CERTIFY, that James McCall whose name is appended to the Trust & Certificate hereof annexed Commission of Deeds was, on the day of the date thereof, a Notary Public of Albany, duly authorized to administer oaths for general purposes; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said James McCall and verily believe that the signature to the said Trust & Certificate is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my official seal, this 14 of March 1883.
R Harper Clerk.

11 Muster Roll of Captain Charles Syngs 1 st Company of the Philadelphia Second Regiment of Foot in the Service of the United States commanded by Colonel Sharp Delany
  Commissioned June 25 th 1777  {  Charles Syng  Captain    John Pollard  Lieutenant    Irwin Cook  Lieutenant    Thomas Cummings  Ensign  
  Sergeants:  Corporals:  Drummer & Fifer    1. James Mer-  1. Jacob Evans.  George Seckler    2. John Grantham.  2. Leonhard Rees.  Bastian Meyer    3. Elisha Hand.  3. John Bell -     4. John Young.    
Privates   1. William Claypool  2. John Stout  3. Michael Couper  4. Peter Duff  5. Jacob Esber  6. James Sighr  7. Thomas Hall  8. James Hardan  9. Jacob Eiden  10. James Betson 
Pillsingsport July 12 th 1777, Mustered then Captain Charles Syngs Company as Specified in the above Roll
Jodk Shrogell, M. M. G. of P.

I do Swear, that the within Muster-Roll is a true State of the Company, without fraud to the United States or to any individual, according to the best of my Knowledge
Chas. Syng Captain
Sworn before me this twelfth day of July 1777. Wm Bradford Col. Comr.
Pennsylvania ss. Secretary's Office
I do hereby certify that the foregoing and annexed is a true and correct Extract from the original paper as the same remains on file in this Office.
In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto Set my Hand and caused the Seal of the Secretary's Office to be affixed at Harrisburg this Thirty-first day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifty-five and of the Commonwealth the Eightieth
John M. Sullivan Deputy Secy. of the Commonwealth,

In the matter of the ap- -plication of Thomas Hall for a Pension under the act of Congress of June 7. 1833
Declaration & affidavits &c.
Admitted
Private 14 months
Applicant claims for One year & 2 months service - One year in the Comp y . commanded by Capt. Simon Warner of the Pennsylvania line - & 2 months in the Militia at Phil a .
Hon G. H. Luning Home Risks N. York
Mr. do the said Court hereby declare their opinion, after the

State of New York } County of Albany } ss. On this 20 th day of September 1833 personally appears before the justices of the justices court of the city of Albany, now sitting, Thomas Hall a resident of the city of Albany in the State of New York, aged on the 17 th day of February last, seventy eight years - who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of June 7. 1832 - That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated -
In the month of January 1776 I enlisted as a private in the Company of command by Captain Josiah Harmar, and of which Lieutenants Mowatt and Dawson were Lieutenants - in the First Regiment of The Pennsylvania Line, of which was commanded by Col. De Haas - I think said officers received their commissions from the State Government of the State of Pennsylvania - not from Congress - I enlisted in said Company in the City of Philadelphia, for one year - I recollect that I enlisted 21 days before I was twenty one years of age, & whilst I was an apprentice to one Samuel Lewis, a Miller, who resided in Upper Darby about ten miles from Philadelphia - In the latter part of February 1776, the Regiment was ordered to Quebec - and I went with my Company to Albany, passing on our route through New Jersey, and Goshen and Kingston in the State of New York - We were quartered at Albany in Barracks, about a month, waiting for the ice to be broken up, & the Lakes to be opened for the navigation of Batavia - We then set out on our march for Quebec - We went from Albany to Lake George - crossed that Lake & went to Ti- (alias called Ticonderoga) and from thence to Crown Point - Made a short stay there & then

went to St. Johns - Whilst we were at Crown Point I recollect the troops, about 3000, were received by a French officer - I believe it was Baron St. Rube - but do not now recollect who it was - He was an aged man - From St. Johns we went to Montreal - We were quartered in the City - We remained there between two & three months, according to the best of my recollection - I do not recollect whether we were commanded by Genl. Schuyler or by Genl. Thomas - but I think it was by one of them - All our Regiments except the Company I belonged to, went to Quebec & stood under Genl. Montgomery - Our Company volunteered together with about 1700 other troops to go on an expedition to the Three Rivers - We had understood that there were about 300 British troops there, & our object was to capture them - But when we got near there we found the whole or a great part of the British Army was there - There were a number of Armed Vessels there, that fired upon us from the river tops with swivels - This was on the banks of the St. Lawrence - We then changed our course and marched to the back of the Isle - and we then discovered that we were within a short distance of about five thousand British troops entrenched - As soon as we discovered this, we began to retreat - but found on our retreat another large body of British troops, in an open field, with six field pieces - We retreated into the woods - and most of us escaped & arrived after three days march at the mouth of the Sorell, where our Army then lay - Several hundred Irish troops deserted from us at the Three Rivers & went over & joined the British in a body - Genl. Thomas or Thompson was taken prisoner on the said expedition,

to the Three Rivers - And we were commanded on our retreat by Colonel (afterwards General) Wayne. This expedition to the Three Rivers was after the defeat & death of Genl. Montgomery at Quebec. We joined our Regiment at the mouth of the Sorelle - We remained there some time & then retreated to St. Johns - From there we removed to Isle aux Noix - I think Genl. Schuyler had the com- -mand of us at that place - From there we went We re- -mained there about 6 weeks or two months - and then retreated, the British pursuing us, to Tienderoga - I recollect that our forces had a severe engagement with the British on Lake Champlain - The British had a fleet of about 20 guns on the Lake & they defeated our fleet - The British stopped at Crown Point - We remained at Tienderoga, several months - how long I cannot state - About the time my period of enlist- -ment was expired - most the greater part of the battalion were sent to Philadelphia - and my Company and myself among the rest - We were discharged at Philadelphia, at the Battery there - I served out the full period of my enlistment, being not less than One year - I was honorably discharged in writing by Capt. Harman; who gave me but said discharge is destroyed - having been carried by me in my pocket till it was worn out - I did not take much care of it, because I did not expect it would be of any importance to preserve it -
In my statement respecting the troops being reviewed at Crown Point, I believe I was mistaken in supposing the Prussian officer who reviewed us, to be Baron Steuben - The officer who

to, was, as I was afterwards informed killed by a fall from his horse -
I do not know any person now living by whom I can prove my services in the Revolutionary War as above stated - I have resided in the City of Albany ever since the year 1781, and am well known in said City - and I believe I can prove by many of my acquaintances that I have always been reported to have been a Revolutionary soldier -
I have now in my possession a Certificate of being a Freeman of the City of Albany - which Certificate bears date April 11 th 1781 & is signed by Abraham Yates Jun r  then Mayor of said City & is under the Corporate Seal of said City -
Soon after I was discharged as above stated, I was called upon to serve as a Guard in the City of Philadelphia over some prisoners who were confined in the "Workhouse". I served as a private in a Company of Militia commanded by Lieut. Clauffin. I was engaged in that service between two and three months - I believe not less than two months - I was drafted for this service, & served until a new draft was made to relieve us -
Afterwards, I do not recollect the year, enlisted on board of an armed Vessel called the Rising Sun, commanded by an authority of Congress, and after serving on board of her some time about three weeks we were cast away on Cape May - I do not recollect the names of the officers -
I hereby relinquish any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declare that my name is not on the Pension roll of the agency of any State -
Caleb Hall
W. G.
John G. Watson Clerk

State of New York County of Albany } ss. James Maher of said City, being duly sworn, doth depose and say, that he is well acquainted with the above named Thomas Hall, and has known him as a respectable & worthy citizen of Albany, for upwards of thirty years - This Deponent has heard the said Thomas Hall spoken of as a revolutionary soldier, and firmly believes that he was such - and also believes that he is generally reported to have been such -
James Maher
Sworn to & subscribed for open Court, this 20 th day of September
1833 -
J. G. Wason Clk
It is hereby certified that the above named James Maher is a respectable citizen of Albany, that he is State Librarian - & is a credible witness - By order of the Court.
John G. Wason Clk.

And the said court do hereby declare their Opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he stated, and that they are personally acquainted with Genl Govey & Jonathan Kidney who have subscribed the preceding affidavits, they both being citizens of Albany & credible witnesses
I John G. Wapson Clerk of the Sessions court of the city of Albany, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the Application of Thomas Hall for a pension —
In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of the said court this 3 d day of October 1833.
By the court
John G. Wapson Clerk

n o 513 New York
Amy Hall widow of Thomas -
Adel 3. February
$46. 67 per annum commg. Feb 1853
Saml H Marks Albany N.Y.

State of New York
City & County of Albany ss. Before me the subscriber a Commission of Deeds in and for said city and county of Albany duly qualified to administer oaths personally came Thomas Hall a resident of the said city of Albany and made oath in due form of law that he is thirty eight years old, that he has always resided in said city, That he is a son of Thomas Hall late of the city of Albany aforesaid now deceased that at the time of the death of his father the said Thomas Hall, he was a pensioner of the United States at the rate of $46.67 per annum That his said father died at his residence in the said city of Albany on the 22 nd day of August in the year 1836 leaving a widow whose name is Amy,
This deponent further saith that the said Amy Hall is his mother, and that she is now living in the city of Albany aforesaid. And that ever since the death of her husband the said Thomas Hall, she has remained, and now is a widow
Subscribed and sworn to by Thomas Hall this 10 th day of March A.D. 1853. Before me
H.S. Mclellan Commissioner
I hereby certify that the above named Thos Hall is a credible witness, and I further certify that I am in no way interested, or concerned in the claim of Amy Hall to a pension
Albany March 10 th 1853
H.S. Mclellan Commissioner

State of New-York, City and County of Albany, Clerk's Office.
} ss.
Harker
I, Robert S. Ray , Clerk of the said City and County, and of the Courts of Record therein, do hereby CERTIFY, that H. J. McCall whose name is appended to the first and certificate of the annexed Commission of Deeds was, on the day of the date thereof, a Commissioner of Deeds in and for the City of Albany, duly authorized to administer oaths for general purposes; and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said H. J. McCall and verily believe that the signature to the said first certificate is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my official seal, this of March 18 53 .
A. Harker
Clerk.