Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 4361, Thomas Grosvenor, Conn.

SERVICE
NUMBER _____
born.
Grosvenor, Thomas
R. 4361
CONTENTS

State of Connecticut } of the Open Court County of Windham } Present Charles S. Grosvenor Judge
On this twenty sixth day of August A.D. 1856 before the Court of Probate for the Dist- -ict of Pomfret held within and for the District aforesaid personally appeared Thomas Grosvenor of Pomfret in said County aged forty seven years who being duly sworn according to law doth on his Oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the prov- -isions of the act of 7 th June 1832. That he is now the only child living and heir at law of Thomas Grosvenor late of Pomfret in said County and State de- -ceased who was a private in the Com- -pany commanded by Capt Craft in the the Regiment in the Regiment com- -manded by Col. William D'Aniellson in the Continental Army in the War of the Revolution.
That his said Father (as he believes entered the service at said Pomfret in the Spring or Summer of 1776 the day or the month he cannot state for three years or during (the War) and continued in actual service for the term of three years as is believed. That he was stationed at New Jersey West of New York and other places not known to the subscri- -ber that he has been documentary evidence of his service which is herewith annexed.

That his Father died at Sheldahl, Pott- -er on the 18 th day of December A.D. 1843 leaving a Widow who died on the day of February A.D. 1845-
That the following is the only surviving child of the said soldier viz - Thomas Grosvenor the subscriber We hereby appoint Ira D. Richmond of Ashpaw in Windham County and State aforesaid his true and lawful Attorney with power of substitution to prosecute his claim, to receive the Certificate when issued and to do all other acts necessary and proper in the premises
Witness { John Richmond C.C. Carpenter
Thomas Grosvenor
Sworn to and subscribed before me, on the day and year first above mentioned and I hereby Certify that I knew the said deponent Thomas Grosvenor and believe him to be as is above stated and that he is of the age above stated and further, that I am not interested in this claim as Attorney or otherwise
Witness my hand and the seal of said Court affixed by order of said Court now in session
Charles S. Grosvenor Judge of Probate

No 39076.
Thomas Grosvenor Conn
June 7, 1832.
Jacob Richmond Milford, Conn.

State of Connecticut County of Windham } In open Court Court of Probate } Present Charles S. Grosvenor Judge
It is hereby Certified That satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before the said Court to wit: from my own personal knowledge having attended the funeral of the persons hereinafter named that Thomas Grosvenor the person named in the foregoing declaration and who as reported was a Revolutionary Soldier of the United States died on the 18 th day of December A.D. 1843 leaving surviving him a widow named Theodora Grosvenor who died in the month of February A.D. 1845 - and that from my own personal knowledge Thomas Grosvenor of Pomfret in said County is the only surviving child of the aforesaid Soldier. In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of Office this 26 th day of August A.D. one thousand eight hundred and fifty six
Chas. S. Grosvenor Judge of Probate

State of Connecticut City of Hartford, August 12 th 1856.
I Charles Hosmer, Recording Secretary of the Connecticut Historical Society, hereby certify that on application for evidence of the service of Thomas Grosvenor, of Pomfret, as a private in the War of the Revolution, I have examined the documents which are deposited in said Society, and find an original document filed "A Return of the non-commissioned officers and soldiers that belonged to the 5 th Brigade in the State of Connecticut, who are now engaged in the Continental Army, March y e 20 th 1777."
Said Return is signed, "William Danielson, Col o ." and dated "Killingly, March y e 10 th 1778."
One page of the Return is headed as follows, viz. "A Return of that part of the 11 th Reg t which belongs to Pomfret in State of Connecticut, In Continental Army for 3 years & during War." In "Capt. Crafts Company" one of the names of the men in said company is "Thomas Grosvenor, Pomfret."
Chas t Hosmer, Rec Secy Conn. Historical Society.

State of Connecticut Hartford County } ss.
On this 12 th day of August A.D. 1856 personally appeared Charles Hosmer Esq. to me well known as a credible person, and made oath that the within Certificate, by him signed, is true, before me,
Geo. Robinson
Notary Public.

I Elizabeth Baxter of Pomfret in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut aged eighty seven years do depose and say that I was born in said Town of Pomfret and have always lived there; most of the time within about two miles of the residence of Capt. Thomas Grosvenor late of said Pomfret dec d . He was the Father of Thomas Grosvenor, who now lives on the place where his Father lived and died, and who, it is said, has made application for a pension on account of the revolu- tionary services of his Father.
I well recollect of the aforesaid Thomas Grosvenor leaving Pomfret and going, as was said, into the Army during the Revolutionary War. I cannot state the precise time when he left, as I was pretty small, neither can I state the time of his service, but my impression is he was absent from Pomfret about one year. I have heard it spoken of in the neighbourhood, of the aforesaid Thomas Grosvenor being out in the Revolutionary War and I have no doubt, from what I have heard, that such was the fact, and that he served a certain length of time in that War.
A Circumstance now occurs to my mind which I well recollect was spoken of at the time. Capt. Thomas Grosvenor

Father has three sons and Thomas was the oldest and the Father regretted very much that Thomas was obliged to leave home and go into the Army, for he was his main dependant.
The said Capt. Thomas Grosvenor died in Pampret in the year 1843 and further deponent saith not.
Elizabeth Baxter
Windham County ss Probate District of Pampret
On this 17 th day of November A.D. 1856 personally appeared Elizabeth Baxter signer of the foregoing deposition and made solemn Oath to the truth of the same. and I certify that I am well acquainted with the said Elizabeth Baxter and that she is a credible person and the statement she has made is entitled to credit in belief and I further certify that I have no interest whatever in the application of Thomas Grosvenor for a pension.
Chas. S. Goodwin Judge of Probate for said District

I John Holbrook of Pomfret in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut aged Eighty six years do depose and say that I was born in said Town of Pomfret and have always resided in said Town from the time I was born to the present time that I was well acquainted with Capt. Thomas Grosvenor late of said Pomfret deceased. Said Thomas Grosvenor was a son of Amos Grosvenor formerly of this Town and was Captain of a Militia Company of this Town after the Revolutionary War.
He has the reputation in this Town of having served as a private in the Revolutionary War, and I have frequently heard it spoken of, that he was out in said War, but do not recollect of hearing the how long he was out like Cannon says
John Holbrook
Windham County ss Probate District of Pomfret.
On this 17 th day of November A.D. 1856 personally appeared John Holbrook signed to the foregoing deposition and made solemn oath to the truth of same and I certify that the said Holbrook has formerly been Judge of our County Court, that he is a man of good character and the foregoing statement of his is entitled to Credit.
Chas. S. Grosvenor Judge of Probate for said District

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November 13, 1922
Mrs. Mary E. Bishop 143 Grove Street Putnam, Connecticut
Madam:
In response to your letter received October 13, 1922, you are advised that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim R. 4361 it appears that Thomas Grosvenor son of Amos Grosvenor of Pomfret, Windham County, Connecticut was born March 1, 1757. He married Theoda ..... who died in February 1845. Soldier died in Pomfret, Connecticut, December 15, 1843.
His son Thomas applied for pension August 26, 1856 while a resident of said Pomfret, aged forty-seven years and alleged that his father Thomas Grosvenor enlisted as a private from Pomfret, Conn. in the spring or summer of 1775 and served three years under Captain Croft and Colonel William Danielson.
The claim was not allowed as he failed to furnish proof of six months service as required by the pension laws.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

MRS. MARY B. BISHOP 142 GROVE STREET PUTNAM, CONN.
Oct. 9, 1922.
Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Will you please give me the pension record in the Revolutionary War of two by the same name from Pomfret, Conn.
Lt. Col. Thomas Grosvenor, b Sep. 20, 1744, died July 11, 1825.
also:-
Thomas Grosvenor, b Mar. 1, 1757, d Dec. 15, 1843 wife, Theoda Service, Conn. Men in Revolution, p 463 "Thomas Grosvenor private at New York 1776, 11th regt. of Militia, march to West Chester. under Capt. Zebadiah Ingalls. 8th Co.,"
Very truly,
Mary B. Bishop-
For Isabel (Grosvenor) Milot.

No 39076 as Thomas Grosvenor born
Set. 1. 1. Richard Oct 6/50 Same Jan 16 1857
Jan 7, 1832.

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
4361
P. O. Thomas Grosvenor
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18
1922 Mr. Fish to Mr. [illegible] & [illegible]

State of Connecticut Windham County ss Town Clerk's Office, Pomfret Nov 13 th 1856
I hereby certify that I am now in the 72 nd year of my age - that I have resided in this town more than 65 years - that I was well acquainted with Thomas Grosvenor, who served as a Col. in the Revolutionary war - who, (as appears from the records of this town,) was born September 20 th 1744 - and died July 17 th 1825.
I was also well acquainted with Thos. Grosvenor son of Amos Grosvenor, who was born in this town March 1 st 1757 - of whose death I find no record in this Office - Col. Thos. Grosvenor was son of John Grosvenor Esq. of this town - And from a careful examination of the records of this town, from the date of its corporation, to the close of the Revolutionary war - I am perfectly satisfied, that the two above named Thomas Grosvenors, were the only persons of that name (who were then capable of bearing arms & residing within the limits of this town) during the Revolutionary war Job Williams - Town Clerk of the Town, County & State aforesaid
Sworn before me - This 17 th day of November A.D. 1856 and I certify that I have no interest in the application of Thomas Grosvenor for a pension
Chas. S. Grosvenor Judge of Probate for the District of Pomfret

J. D. Richmond
Jany 16. 1857
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Pension Office, January, 16, 1856.
Sir,
If the identity of Thomas Grosvenor, whose children are applying for pension in his right, was clearly established, still the difficulty as to determining the length of his service holds good, Mrs Elizabeth Baxter thinks he was out about a year, but her testimony is too vague & indefinite. How does she know it was a year? She admits she was small when he was rendering his service. The testimony must be much clearer than this before any allowance can be made.
General D. Richmond Esq
Ashford Cont.

Pension Office. Oct. 6, 1856.
Sir,
I have examined the application of Thomas Grosvenor claiming the benefit of the Act of June 7, 1832, for the services of his father, Thomas Grosvenor deceased (who died in 1843) who, it is alleged was, the holder of a his name is now in some of a the name is now alias signed "William Dar- celson Col." in the property of the Hibernian Society of Connecticut - and you are informed that the evidence of identity is not satisfactory. It is hardly credible that, if he had been that soldier that he would not have left behind him some other evidence of the fact that the paper statements contained in the affidavits of Holbrook & Lefevre. And, even if we deemed the name assigned for his familiar to apply for a pension as supposed, it is deemed somewhat remarkable that, if he was

Oct 6/56 Jared D. Richmond
so well known as a Revolutionary soldier, that he was soon called upon to testify to the service of the various parties who applied for pensions from Pownal; and especially in behalf of of Lemuel and Jerusha Grosvenor! If there are now none of his children living, then I shall expect my direct heir to carry on the records of the service having rendered the service and it must be my conclusion to receive the duties of this office. The town clerk of Pownal, is also required to furnish a certificate of all the persons named Thos. Grosvenor resident within its limits during the Revolutionary war, who were the owners of heavy arms, and also any facts which may be shown by his books which may be useful in determining  now settle the question of identity.
There is also another difficulty in the right way, even if the identity is established, I mean the duration of the service. This may be shown by a certificate from the office of the Comp.
Indls. of Connecticut
Jared D. Richmond Esq. Ashford, Windham Co Conn.

Cashford December 7 th 1856
Sir
Your letter of the 6 th October last stating that "the application of Thomas Grosvenor claiming the benefit of the act of June 7 th 1832 for the services of his Father, Thomas Grosvenor now dec d had been examined and informing me that the evidence of identity was not satisfactory" has been received, and I have enclosed herein the certificate of the Town Clerk of Pompton agreeable to request also the Depositions of Elizabeth Baxter and John Holbrook all of which I think will be satisfactory on that point - The Deposition of Mrs Baxter going to show not only the identity of the person, but the duration of his services at one time.
Very Respectfully Your Obt Servant
Jared D. Richmond

Ashford Sept. 28 th 1886
Sir
Enclosed is the application of Thomas Grosvenor of Pamphill for a pension on account of the services of his Father in the Revolutionary War. I am not aware that we can produce any formal proof of any person now living who was out with him in the service - If there is any one living he is not known to us. A Certificate of service taken from the Historical Records in this State, is herein enclosed. We have also enclosed two depositions going to prove the identity of the person and also what he himself said as to being out in the Revolutionary War - and we could produce additional evidence like character if necessary. We suppose however that the principal proof would be the Record, which is said also to be in Washington
Very Respectfully, Hon. Commission Clerk D. Richmond of Pensions

I George Holbrook of Pomfret in the County of Windham in the State of Connecticut age eighty two years do depone and say that I have been acquainted with Thomas Grosvenor late of said Pomfret deceased ever since I was a Boy, having lived near neighbors to him and have often heard him speak of being out in the Revolutionary War and I think he told me he was in New Jersey at one time, but I cannot say that he told me how long he was out. I asked him why he never got a pension, He said he supposed he was entitled to it as much as those who were out with him, but he said he did not think it was right, and he could live without it.
The above named Thomas Grosvenor was not the Col Thomas Grosvenor who formerly lived in this Town and who was an Officer in the Revolutionary War, but was another person who is reported to have served as a private in the Revolutionary War and further deponent saith not.
George Holbrook
State of Connecticut County of Windham } of Pomfret On this 26 th day of August A.D. 1856 Personally appeared before the subscriber Judge

of the Court of Probate for the District of Pampul in said County duly authorized to administer Oaths and take Depositions, George Holbrook, a resident of said Pampul to me well known as a Credible witness and made solemn oath to the truth of the foregoing Deposition by him subscribed and I hereby certify that I have heard my Father, who was a Revolutionary soldier, say that Thomas Grosvenor was un- willing to take his pension because he thought it was unjust.
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year first above written before me and I Certify that I am in no manner interested Witness my hand and the seal of said Court of Probate the day & year above Chas. S. Grosvenor Judge of Probate written

I Horace Sessions of Pomfret in the County of Windham and State of Connecticut aged seventy fifty two years do depose and say that I have lived a neighbour to Capt Thoms - as Grosvenor late of said Pomfret deceased about all my days and have worked for him a great deal since I was a Boy, probably ten or twelve years in the whole and have repeatedly heard him speak about being out in the Revolutionary War and my impression is very strong, that he spoke of being in New Jersey at one time. I said he served as a private, but how long he served I cannot say - My impression is that he told me he was out at one time six months or more - I have lived with him during the latter part of his life and while the pen- sion laws were in force, and heard him say that he supposed he might have drawn a pension as well as others - but he did not wish to, had property enough without it Horace Sessions
State of Connecticut } of Pomfret County of Windham }
On this 26 th day of August A.D. 1856 per- sonally appeared before the subscribers Judge of the Court of Probate for the District of Pomfret in said Windham County, duly authorized to administer Oaths and take Depositions.

Horace Sessions a resident of said Pomper to me well known as a credible witness and made solemn oath to the truth of the fore- going deposition by him subscribed and I certify that I am in no manner interested Witness my hand and the seal of said Court of Probate the day and year above written
Chas. S. Grosvenor Judge of Probate