Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 18443, Thomas Herbert, New Jersey

SERVICE
NUMBER
New Jersey
Herbert Thomas
S. 18443
Carded
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13.429 Ohio Pittsburgh.
Thomas Herbert.
of Richland in the State of Ohio. who was a Private in the Co commanded by Captain Wykoff. of the Reg t commanded by Major Burrows in the Ohio Jersey line for One year.
$40.
Inscribed on the Roll of Ohio Pitts. at the rate of 40. Dollars 00. Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20. day of July 33 and sent to James Curdy. Mansfield. U.S.O. Ohio.
Arrears to the 4th of March. 1833. 80.00 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sept r 33. 20.00
$100.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded By Wm B Palmer Clerk, Book 6 Vol. 8 Page 113

13.429 N. 17.949.
Thomas Herbert.
Robert H.
Adm 1. years.
Genl Harry Purdy Mansfield Ohio Richland Co Feb. 22. 1833.

BRIEF in the case of Thomas Herbert of Richland County in the State of Ohio (Act 7th June, 1832.)
1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a Court. 2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity? 3. How old is he? 79. Years. 4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed.
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. As a Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served. Gen.   Years, Months, Days.     1776 — 6. — private Col. Peter Wycoff, Maj. Burrows.   1777 & 1778. — 11 — do. Same Officers.  
5. In what battles was he engaged? — 6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Monmouth, New Jersey. 7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditional evidence 8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? No.
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
B. F. Pleasants Examining Clerk.
There is appended to the declaration a deposition of John Herbert, but only proves the enlistment & is not authenticated by proper affidavits —

Thomas Herbert
Declaration etc
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12 Months
J. Pinney Agent Mansfield Ohio

State of Ohio Richland county } ss On this 24 th day of October 1832 personally appeared in open Court in the court of Common Pleas of Richland county Ohio before the judges thereof Thomas Herbert a resident of Blooming Grove township Richland county Ohio aged seventy nine years who being duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832
That he was born in Monmouth county in the State of New Jersey about the year 1753 where he resided during the war
That in the spring of the year of 1776 he entered into the service of the United States in what was then called the New Jersey six months men at Monmouth Court House under Capt. Peter Mycoff - John Burrows was major. Col Samuel Herman. Gen. Sullivan was Gen. at the time - from 6 Months thence he was marched to Squan on the sea shore from thence they returned to Monmouth the place of Rendezvous - was at Flat Bush; some skirmishing while he was out; served out his six months and received a discharge which he has since lost. signed by Col. Samuel Herman.
Again in the fall of year 1777 or 1778 he does not recollect which he again entered the service as a Militia Man under the same officers at Monmouth Court House - 6 Months He was engaged in scouting parties along the sea shore and Monmouth Court House being the place of Rendezvous. He was drafted for and served six months - He then was dismissed

and received a discharge from Col Ferman He hereby renounces every claim whatsoever to a pension or an annuity except the present and he declares his name is not upon the pension roll of any agency in any state. He knows of the existence of no documentary evidence by which his services can be proved nor of any person whose testimony he can procure to prove the same except that of his brother and his going no further than to prove his enlistment since the revolutionary war he has resided in Fayette Co. Pennsylvania until ten years ago when he removed to his present place of residence of his present place of residence  where he has resided He William Foulkes James Cummings residents of Richland county Ohio do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Thomas Herbert who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that he is seventy nine years of age as we declare that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and are concur in that opinion
Sworn before me in Open Court 24 Oct 1832 Eury Hays US
William Foulkes James Cummings

And the said court do hereby declare their opinion after investigating the matter and putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, and ascertaining the deposition of Herbert that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states - And the court further certifies that it appears to them that William Faulkes and James Boonings who signed the above certificate the credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit
D. Higgings Pres: Judge
Yrs Patterson } Aforenoon Isaac Asahel } Judges Wm. Riddle }
I Eliza Hedges Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Richland County Ohio do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Thomas Herbert for a pension In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 31st day of October A D 1832
Eunice Hedges Clerk

Mr. Earl Church Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
Howe, Indiana
Sept 10, 1930
Will you please send me another photostat of the application for pension described in attached letter. The one you sent was lost in transit to another member of the family. Grace L.

State of Pennsylvania Fayette County ss
John Herbert of said County being duly sworn de- poseth and saith that he is now seventy three years of age that during the revolutionary war he was well acquainted with Thomas Herbert then of Monmouth County New Jersey, now of Richland County Ohio an applicant for a pension, that he well recollects of the said Thomas Herbert enlisting as a Soldier, in what was called the New Jersey Six Months men, at Monmouth Court house in the Spring of 1776 as he believes, Peter Wycoff was his Captain at the time; this deponent does not recollect how long the said Thomas Herbert served in the said service
Sworn and Subscribed the 31 st day of May A.D 1833 } John Herbert
State of Pennsylvania Fayette County ss
Personally appeared before me a Justice of the peace in and for said County, the above named John Herbert and subscribed the foregoing affidavit, and was by me duly sworn that the facts therein stated were true. And I hereby certify that the said John Herbert is a reputable citizen to whose statements due credit ought to be given. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal in the Borough of Connellsville in the said County the 31 st day of May A.D 1833
Henry M Lewis
Pennsylvania Fayette County ss
I Henry M Beem Prothonotary of the Court of Common Pleas in for said County do certify that Henry M Lewis Esq is a magistrate as above stated & that the above signature purporting to be his is genuine
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of said Court at Union Town the 7 th day of June 1833
Henry M Beem Prothon

REED & CRAWLEY ATTORNEYS AT LAW REAL ESTATE, LOANS AND ABSTRACTORS
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John
GREENCASTLE, IND. March 26 190 3
Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.
Sir:
Do your records disclose the name of Thomas Kerberberth a soldier in the Revolutionary War, who it is said enlisted in the army in Monmouth N.J. and served for a period of seven years. He was the youngest son of Sir Richard Kerberberth of Monmouth. He died in Appomattox Co. Ind. at the age of 92. was unable to obtain as much of his history as possible. Please state where he enlisted, the rank he held and where discharged.
Respectfully John H. Reed Box 204.

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The Courier
CONNELLSVILLE, PA.
JOHN L. GANS, MANAGING EDITOR W. S. STIMMEL, CITY EDITOR
MEMBER OF AMERICAN NEWSPAPER PUBLISHERS ASSOCIATION AUDIT BUREAU OF CIRCULATIONS PENNSYLVANIA ASSOCIATED DAILIES
Feb. 22, 1930.
Hon. Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:-
I would thank you to receive a certified copy of the Application for Pension, made by
Thomas Herbert
who served with the Troops of New Jersey during the Revolutionary War, and at the time of his Application (1833) was residing in Richland County, O.
Very truly,
John L. Gans. John L. Gans.

Hardy, William Hanning, George Harnien, David Bergen Harnien, John Bergen Harns, Jacob Third Battalion, Gloucester; also Colonel Somers' Battalion, State Troops Henewil, John Sussex Henry, George Gloucester Henry, James Somerset Henry, John Burlington; also Continental Army Henry, Joseph Sussex Henry, Peter Somerset Hensminger, Henry Second Battalion, Cumberland; also State Troops, also Continental Army Hepburn, William Captain Tucker's Company, First Regiment, Hunterdon Herpard, William Herbert, James Troop, light-horse, Monmouth Herbert, John Captain Gerhart's Company, First Regiment, Monmouth Herbert, Obediah Middlesex Herbert, Robert Middlesex Herbert, Samuel Herbert, Thomas Monmouth Herder, Christian Captain Conrad TenEyck's Company, Second Battalion, Somerset Herin, Gershon Herriman, Jacob Herriman, Samuel Morris Herriman, Samuel Essex Herrington, William Hunterdon Herriss, John Somerset Herrod, John Captain Jacob Ten Eyck's Company, First Battalion, Somerset Herrod, Samuel Middlesex Hervey, John Captain Maxwell's Company, Second Regiment, Hunterdon Hess, Michael Third Battalion, Gloucester; also Colonel Somers' Battalion, State Troops.
"This is to certify that the above is a true copy of page 627 of 'Official Register of the Officers and Men of New Jersey in the Revolutionary War' compiled under orders of His Excellency Theodore F. Randolph, Governor, by William S. Stryker, Adjutant General."
Signed
Leah M. Knowles Notary Public of New Jersey

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COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
SEAL
State Library and Museum Department of Public Instruction
HARRISBURG
February 17, 1930
Miss Grace Herbert Libey Howe, Indiana
My dear Miss Libey
Your recent letter addressed to the Adjutant General has been referred to me.
The name of Thomas Herbert appears as a captain in Colonel Atlee's musketry Battalion Continental Line--appointed March 15; 1776; captured August 27, 1776. His company was raised in Leacock and Salisbury Townships, Lancaster County. Another record reads "from Captain in Atlee's Regiment, December 4, 1776; resigned February 18, 1777, "Tenth Pennsylvania Regiment, Continental Line."
Signed
H.H. Shenk

Howe, Indiana February 24, 1930
The Commissioner of Pensions Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir:
Can you give me a certified copy of application for pension by Thomas Herbert who served in the Revolutionary War. He was born in Monmouth County, New Jersey, and is the Thomas Herbert mentioned in Stryker's Officers and Men of New Jersey, certified copy of which I send you herewith a copy. It is probable that he is the same man who is mentioned in the duplicate copy of a letter from the Archivist of the State Library and Museum of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, as Thomas Herbert and his brother John went to Connellsville, Pennsylvania, in about 1778. As John is shown to have served in New Jersey, it is probable that they both went back there to enlist.
The Old Town Book of Middletown gives this Herbert family. The first Herbert of this family was Francis, grandson of the fourth earl of Pembroke.
Will you also kindly send me certificate of Samuel Herbert's application for pension, if there is one? He was the son of Thomas Herbert, served in the War of 1812, and is buried here in Howe. I should also like to have the name of his wife and father and mother if that data is contained in his application.
no cl. for pension
Very sincerely yours,
Grace Herbert Libey
Teacher.
P.S. The family records were lost when the family home was burned.
Stillwell's Genealogy gives the marriage of Thomas Herbert's father and mother, Debirah Lawrence and Richard Herbert, Vol. III, page 405, also the fact that Thomas and his brother, oldest sons of Deborah Lawrence, received a legacy from their grandfather Lawrence in 1778. As many of the Lawrence family fought, there may be a reference to Thomas Herbert in some of their applications.

M.O. #102814 - $1 00
Box 173
Horn, Indiana March 16, 1930
Mr. Earl D. Church Department of the Interior Bureau of Pensions Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
Please accept enclosed in accordance with your letter of the fourteenth instant and send me certified copy of claim of Thomas Herbert pensioner of Richland County, Ohio, for Revolutionary War

service. Please give me, if possible, the date of dis- continuance of service  service of death. Very truly Yours,
Grace Herbert Libby
P.S. Samuel Herbert, my great grandfather, served from Connellsville or Mays, Pennsylvania. As far as I know he never made application for pension. I presume his descendants have not, or could not, make such claim?
G. H. L.

Home, Indiana September 27, 1930
Mr. Earl Church Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Church:
Some two weeks ago I wrote you, asking for a photostat of the application for pension by Thomas Herbert of Bloominggrove Township, Richland County, Ohio, Revolutionary Service, Captain Peter Nikoff's Company, 2 Regt., Monmouth County, New Jersey Militia, spring of 1776 for six months, and fall of 1777 (or 1778) for six months. Born 1753, pension granted 1832. You sent me a copy of this

application in photostat last winter, but it was lost in transit.
I need it as soon as possible. Check was enclosed in my former letter. If it were not received, please let me know.
Very truly,
Grace Herbert Libby

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section
MXHP/HBM
March 14, 1930.
Miss Grace Herbert Libey Howe Indiana.
Dear Madam:
I advise you that photostatic copies of original papers on file in the Revolutionary War pension claim of Thomas Herbert (S. 18443), who was born in 1755 in Monmouth County, New Jersey, and was later a pensioner of Richland County, Ohio, will be furnished you at the rate of fifteen cents ($.15) a page.
The number of pages to be copied is five.
Should you desire to have them certified, allow twenty-five cents ($.25) additional for the entire set.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this bureau by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.
The War of 1812 records of this bureau fail to show that pension was ever claimed on account of the services of Samuel Herbert.
Very truly yours,
Earl D. Church Commissioner.
EARL D. CHURCH Commissioner.

IN REPLY REFER TO Rev. and 1812 Wars Section
3-1865
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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS
WASHINGTON
March 14, 1930.
Miss Grace Herbert Libey Howe Indiana.
Dear Madam:
I advise you that photostatic copies of original papers on file in the Revolutionary War pension claim of Thomas Herbert (S. 18443), who was born in 1753 in Monmouth County, New Jersey, and was later a pensioner of Richland County, Ohio, will be furnished you at the rate of fifteen cents ($.15) a page.
The number of pages to be copied is five.
Should you desire to have them certified, allow twenty-five cents ($.25) additional for the entire set.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this bureau by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.
The War of 1812 records of this bureau fail to show that pension was ever claimed on account of the services of Samuel Herbert.
Very truly yours,
Earl D. Church
EARL D. CHURCH Commissioner.

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section
EXHP/FRM
March 14, 1930.
Mr. John L. Gans Managing Editor, The Courier Connellsville Pennsylvania.
Dear Sir:
I advise you that photostatic copies of original papers on file in the Revolutionary War pension claim of Thomas Herbert (S. 18443), who was born in 1753 in Monmouth County, New Jersey, and was later a pensioner of Richland County, Ohio, will be furnished you at the rate of fifteen cents ($.15) a page.
The number of pages to be copied is five.
Should you desire to have them certified, allow twenty-five cents ($.25) additional for the entire set.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this bureau by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.
Very truly yours,
EARL D. CHURCH Commissioner.

Please have certified and return to Revolutionary & 1812 Wars Section, Room 5033.
Photostatic copies of five pages from Revolutionary War claim for pension of Thomas Herbert, Survivor File No.18443.

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Bureau of Pensions. Rev. 41812 War Section.
October 7, 1930.
541 aw
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Rev. War claim for pension of Thomas Herbert , File No. S.18443.
Actual 1 of each page.
4-cif-jacket included
75¢.....3 pages
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Kindly leave margin of 1 1/2 in. at top of each page and return papers in each case in folder with corresponding name and number.
The word "omit" written in pencil on these pages which are not to be copied.
Chief, Rev. 41812 War Section.

Rev. 1812 Wars Section. MMF
October 7, 1930.
Miss Grace Herbert Libey, Howe, Indiana.
Dear Madam:
You are advised that your remittance of $1.00 was received.
Photostatic copies of papers on file in Revolutionary War claim for pension of Thomas Herbert (S.18443) are being prepared for you and will be mailed as soon as they are finished.
Very truly yours,
E. W. MORGAN, Acting Commissioner.

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Thomas Herbert which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes. II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes. III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? _____ IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes. V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes. VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes. VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes. VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes. IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes. X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes.

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
no Clergyman, but two Citizens
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
no
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
yes
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? — no
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? no
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? —
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes except No. 2.
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeh and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
† QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡ QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

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18443
INVALID.
No. 18,443
Thomas Herbert
Dir Rev War
Act: June 7 th 32
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 171
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Apl. 3-1903-Heist, to
Ino. S. Reed
Greencastle Ind.
1929 Mar. 14. Grace Herbert Libey adv. cost of photo. 1930 Apr. 5. Photo to Grace Herbert Libey & Fin. Rev. mtfd. 1930 Mar. 14. Mr. Jas. L. Sans rev. cost of photo. mmw 1930 Oct. 22. Photo mailed to Grace Herbert Libey & Fin. Rev. mtfd. A.R.Y.