Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 38779, John Gunter, Sea Service Va.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Sea Service Va.
Gunter, John
S. 38779
CONTENTS

19,381.
South Carolina.
John Gunter.
of Spartanburg Dist. in the State of South Carolina, who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Gosenby of the regiment commanded by Colonel Muhlenburg, in the Virginia line, for the term of three years, from October 1780 to end of war. 17
Inscribed on the Roll of South Carolina at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence on the 7th of February 1825.
Certificate of Pension issued the 25th of Feb: 1825, and sent to Hon: J. Gist, H.R.
  Arrears to 4th of Mar: 1825.  $ 7 " 31    Semi-ann. all'ce ending 4 Sept: 1825.  48 " 00     $ 55 " 31  
May 29, 1827,
{ Revolutionary claim, Acts March 18, 1818, and May 1, 1820. }
See affidavits for new certificate within P. issues affidavit also required
Duplicate certificate June 20 July 1827 and sent to Mr. Skinner Esq. Spartanburg, S.C.
Heard April 13 - 1828

19. 170
John Gunter Spartanburg District
on Roll page 154
Hon'ble J. Gist. S. P. 181 Gunter The Declaration of John Spartanburg Dist. Carolina

November Term 1893
South Carolina      On this 13 th day of November Spartanburgh District      1893 Person b ly appeared in open Court, to wit, the Court of Common Pleas, being a Court of Record for the District aforesaid, John Gunter, a Revolutionary Soldier aged eighty two years resident in the District afore- said who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath declare that he served in the Revolutionary war as follows: "Enlisted in the Navy of the United States under the command of Captain Johannes Watson and continued in the Naval Service for the term of three years, for which I was enlisted I then enlisted in the land service, in the ninth or tenth Virginia Regiment and was attached to the Company commanded by Capt. Coverly under the command of General Mullenburgh in which I continued to the end of the war when I was discharged by Genl. Mullenburgh at Baltimore — And I do Solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States on the 18 th day of March 1818 and that I have not since that time by gift sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof of with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an Act of Congress entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land & naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War, passed on the 18 th day of March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me any property or securi- ties contracts or debts due to me and that I have no manner of income or means of subsistence other than which I derive from my feeble exertions at manual labour in the field I have no family with me but one Daughter who is

unable to contribute any thing towards my support I am extremely old and feeble as well as poor and in a very short time I must starve without the aid of private Charity or the assistance of my Country I know of no person now alive who can testify my services in the Revolu- tion and my recollection is so impaired that I cannot give as full a statement as I could wish of the services which I performed Sworn to in open Court the day & date above written } John Gunter
In the State of South Carolina } Elisha Bomer clerk of Spartanburg District } the Court of General Sessions & Common Pleas for said District do hereby certify that the foregoing oath & the schedule thereto annexed are truly copied from the records of said Court; and I do further certify that it is the opinion of the said Court that the total amount in value of the property of the above named John Gunter does not amount to anything worth naming — In testi- mony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed the seal of the said Court this 11 th day of February 1824
E. Bomer Clerk
South Carolina } Personally came before me William Spartanburg District } Sumner & William Turner who being sworn on their oaths, say respectively that they have for some time past been acquainted with John Gunter (who makes the within declaration) and that they believe him to be a man of such credibility that due faith & credit may be given to his oaths known to & subscribed before me this 18 th Jany 1824 E. Bomer J. D. Eoff (Signed) Wm. Sumner William Turner

In addition to the foregoing Declaration, the De- ponent states, that he cannot possibly recollect the time he was enlisted in the Land Service, but recollects that he had served one year upon the capture of Lord Cornwallis, at which time he hired a substitute and received his discharge from Genl. Mendenhall at Baltimore - from his extreme age, his recol- lection is so much impaired that he cannot rec- ollect any dates -
John his Gunter. mark
Attest H. Primmer J.D. Esq.
John Gunter, who makes the foregoing Declara- tion, came personally before me, and being sworn on his oath saith, that since the 18 th March 1818, he has disposed of no kind of property, by gift, sale, or otherwise, - that he was at that time as poor as he is now, and would at that time, and any time since, have applied for a pension, but his own ignorance, and the want of some person to instruct him, has delayed him until the present application.
Sworn to & subscribed before me, 7 th Feby 1825 H. Primmer J.D. Esq.
John his Gunter mark

February 6, 1939
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Richard Gunter McCool Lieutenant Commander, U. S. Navy Commanding U.S.S. Semmes Navy Yard, Washington, D. C.
John Gunter, S. 38779 John Gunter, W. 9467 BA-J/MMEF:MLB
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of John Gunter of Louisa County, Virginia, who served in the Virginia troops and whose widow, Mary Carpenter Gunter, it is believed, drew a Revolutionary War pension in Louisa County, Virginia, until her death about 1861.
A very careful search of the Revolutionary War records has been made and no claim for pension has been found which was made to the United States by a Mary Gunter for service of her husband, John Gunter, in the Revolutionary War.
The Revolutionary War pension records of this office show that one John Gunter (S. 38779) of Virginia (county not named) who served in the Revolutionary War, lived later in Spartenburg District, South Carolina, and died in 1828. No application for pension was made by anyone as his widow. Those records show, also, that one John Gunter (W. 9467) of York County, Pennsylvania, served in the Revolutionary War and married in that county in 1784 or 1794, Elizabeth Strine. He died in 1807 in York County, Pennsylvania, and his widow, Elizabeth, received a pension and was living in that county as late as 1860.
The pension to which you refer may have been paid by the State of Virginia and not by the United States.
If you are interested in either of the John Gunters cited above, the papers will be examined more fully and a report furnished you upon request.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

South Carolina Spartanburg District
On this 25 th day of June 1897 before me the subscribing Justice of the Peace for the District aforesaid, personally appeared John Gunter, who, on his oath declares, that he is the same person who formerly belong'd to the Company commanded by Captain Johannes Watson, of the Navy in the coast service of the Land forces Regiment commanded by Genl. Mullenburgh in the service of the United States; that his name was placed on the Pension Roll of the State of South Carolina, and that he recd a certificate of that fact under the signature and Seal of the Secretary of War; which certificate on or about the — day of — in the present year, at Spartanburg Court house, was lost, as this Deponent is inform'd and believes, by one Samuel Ward, in whose hands the same had been placed for safe keeping.
Sworn to & subscribed before me 25 th June 1897
Gale Jones Jr

9122_00547 State of South Carolina Spartanburgh District
I Elisha Boman clerk of the Court General Sessions of the Peace and Common Pleas for the District aforesaid, do hereby certify, that Caleb Jones, before whom the foregoing affidavit is made, is, and was at the time of taking the said foregoing affidavit, an acting Justice of the quorum for the said District, & that due faith & credit should be given to his official acts as such.
Given under my hand and the Seal of the Court this 5 th day of July 1827 — E. Boman Clerk

Spartanburg S.C. 8th July 1827
FREE
Pension office July 21 st 1827
Department of War Washington City

The affidavit of John Grutter, is enclosed it is presumed, to be necessary to renew the affidavits of Wm Fairman & Saml Ward, as they are already before the Department of War. - The renewed certificate for Mr. Grutter will be forwarded to the Subsecy respectfully &c.
Spartanburg S.C. 5 th July 1827.
Wm Fairman

Penson office May 28 th 1827

South Carolina Spartanburgh Dist
Personally came before me William Grinnell, Ally at Law, who being Sworn in due form of Law, on his oath saith, that, some time since perhaps two or three years, he was employ'd to draw up the Declaration of John Grinnell, and present his claim for a pension from the United States, for Revolutionary Services, that the said claim was presented (as he believes) to the War depart- ment, and in consequence thereof a Pension Certificate issued, directed to this Deponent, as the agent of the said John Grinnell, by which the said John Grinnell was placed on the pension List Roll of the South Carolina Agency, and drew at the rate of Eight dollars per month; - That some time in March last, this Deponent, was required by an order from the said John Grinnell, to deliver the Pension Certificate to one Samuel Ward, (the said Certificate having remained in the possession of this Deponent, who as the agent of Grinnell drew his allowance of Pension) that in obedience to the said order he this Deponent did deliver the original pension Certificate of the said John Grinnell, to Samuel Ward - and has since been informed and believes, that the same has been lost or destroyed accidentally. - That the said John Grinnell is now alive & resident in said District. Sworn to & subscribed
before me. 15 th May 1827.
E. Roman Clerk H.D.
Wm Grinnell

State of South Carolina } Spartanburgh District }
Personally came before me Samuel Ward of the District aforesaid, and being sworn in due form of Law, on his oath saith, that some time in the month of March last, he, this Deponent, received from William Grimnier Esq., the original pen- sion certificate of John Grueter, late a Soldier in the Revolutionary army; and that a short time afterwards he had received, and placed it careful- ly in his Pocket Book; to wit on the same eve- ning, this, this Deponent, said pocket Book, was lost or stolen from his possession, and as he supposed destroyed with all the papers it contained - and that the said Pension certifi- cate was, as he believes, thereby destroyed - This Deponent further swears that the said John Grueter is now alive and resident in the neigh- bourhood of this Deponent, in this District, and is so poor as to be unable to live without the aid of his said pension.
Sworn to & Subscribed } before me 15 th May 1827 } E. Roman Clerk S.D.
S. WARD

State of South Carolina } ss. Spartanburg District }
I Elisha Boman clerk of the Court of General Sessions and Common Pleas and Justice of the Quorum ex officio for the District aforesaid, do hereby certify that I am acquainted with William Primmin and Samuel Ward, who make the foregoing af- fidavits, & that they are entitled to due faith and credit - & I further certify that they, the said William and Samuel were duly qual- ified before me and did subscribe the affidavits to which their names appear -
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of the Court, this 15 th May 1827
E. Boman clerk

122-30337 If the foregoing testimony, be insufficient to obtain another copy of the Pension certificate, Will the Department be so good as to forward instructions, by which the application can be made properly -
Yrs Primus
Spartanburgh Ch.S.C. May 16 th 1824
agent at Allenton M c Miller

In Reply Refer File No.
U. S. Submarine Force
U. S. S. SEMMES EXPERIMENTAL DIVISION ONE
Navy Yard, Washington, D.C., 15 January 1939.
Veterans' Administration, Room 1851, Navy Department, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs:-
I would appreciate certain information regarding the Revolutionary War services of John Gunter of Louisa County, Virginia. The records of the War Department show that he served at least during the period February, March and April 1783 as he is shown on Lieutenant Charles Stockley's book of accounts. He was a private in the infantry of the Virginia Continental Army.
It is believed that his widow, Mary Carpenter Gunter of Louisa County, Virginia, drew a Revolutionary War pension until her death about 1861.
Please send me a transcript of his record as set forth in the pension claim. It is especially desired to have the date of his birth, date of his entry and discharge from the Service, date of marriage, and date of death.
Thanking you in anticipation of your kindness in this matter, I am
Very sincerely,
Richard Gunter McCOOL, Lieutenant Commander, U.S. Navy, Commanding U.S.S. SEMMES.

mmh
December 9, 1924
Honorable H. P. Fulmer House of Representatives
My dear Mr. Fulmer:
In response to your letter of the 6th instant, I have the honor to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim S. 38779 it appears that John Gunter enlisted in the naval service, the place and date not stated, under Captain Johannes Watson and served three years.
not U.S. Navy but Va. Navy See Mr. Stewart's Book 7 Va. Navy
He then enlisted subsequently about October 1780 and served one year as a private in Captain Coverly's Company in the Ninth or Tenth Virginia Regiment.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 13, 1823 while living in Spartanburg District, South Carolina aged eighty-two years.
In 1823 he referred to his daughter living with him, her name not given. He died April 13, 1828. (from W.B.)
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension and the name of person paid, you should apply to
He stated that he did receive a pension which he had received 1823. When Cornwallis was captured at Yorktown later he gained a substantial sum as discharge

the Pension Section, Civil Division, General Accounting Office, 1800 E Street, N. W. Washington, D. C. citing all of the following data: " John Gunter, Certificate No. 19381, issued February 25, 1825, rate $ 8 per month, commenced February 7, 1825, Act of March 18, 1818, South Carolina Agency".
Sincerely,
Service att'd by Miss Wilson.
Acting Commissioner.

H. P. FULMER 7TH DIST. SOUTH CAROLINA
MRS. N. S. JONES SECRETARY
Congress of the United States House of Representatives Washington, D. C.
December 6th, 1924.
Mr. Washington Gardner, Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Dear Mr. Gardner:-
I wish to ask that you please furnish me with an abstract of pension application of John Gunter, a private in the Virginia Continental Line. It appears that he was pensioned under Act of March 1818, at which time he was a resident of Spartanburg District, South Carolina. Please also advise me when and to whom pension was paid and at what rate.
Thanking you, I am,
Yours very truly,
M.C.

38779 INVALID.
Rev
File No. 38,779
John Gunter Rev
Act: 18 th March 1871
Index: Vol. 9 , Page 208
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1934-Rev. P. H. H. to Hon. A. P. Salomon - MM. V. S. 1939-Rev. C. B. - Richard G. McEne - St. Am. 28th M. add. Vol. as - Rev. John Gunter - one other - See index foreign. MS. A. 9. 2. 6