Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 1756, John Grove, Penn.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Penn.
Grove, John Margaret Ann
W. 1756
CONTENTS

2320.
Kentucky Margaret Ann Grove widow of John Grove who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a Wag n Con re Penn Mil
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 480 dollars 00 cents per annum, to commence on the 3d February, 1853.
Certificate of Pension issued 6th day of Oct. 1853 , and sent to
W. W. Gray, Louisville
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 3, 1853, Page 174 Vol. N

72136 Kentucky
John Grove demand
of Wagon Row in the State of who was a Wagon Row commanded by Captain Wagon Row of the commanded by Wagon Row in the line for Revolution
Inscribed on the Roll of Louisville at the rate of 180 Dollars } Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831 Ending 11, Dec r 1843
Certificate of Pension issued the 24 day of  May 1853 and sent to  A D Addison
Arrears to the 4th of Present Semi-annual allowance ending
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }  P. M. ... Clerk,
Recorded by Book 15 2 , Vol. 7 Page 21

State of Kentucky
Jefferson Circuit & County Set
April August term of said Court 1833 —
Be it it remembered that on this 10 th day of April 1833 in the Jefferson Circuit Court personally appeared John Groves a resident of the said County in the State aforesaid aged eighty two years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 15 th 1832 - That he enlisted in the army of the United States in the Year 1776. He was enlisted and took the bounty of a regular soldier at Stoy's Tavern in Fredericktown in Maryland that he was enlisted for Capt. Crisup's company and was allowed three weeks to join the army after he was enlisted and before the three weeks expired he went with his company to join the army. That at the time that in Philadelphia within three weeks after he enlisted he was appointed a Capt in the Wagon department by General Hildhammer who had the General Command of the Waggons; That Genl. Hildhammer gave him a commission under his own name and under a large seal and that he continued in the above capacity as Capt of Waggons until the close of the war at the surrender of Cornwallis that his pay as Capt of Waggons was twentyfive dollars per month. That he was in the battle of Monmouth (The British having left Philadelphia in June) The British crossed the Delaware and the American Troops followed them Genl. Lee brought on the Battle but for some misconduct Genl. Washington arrested him on the ground; The American Troops were victorious - That he was in the Battle of Brandywine Genl. Washington and Genl. La Fayette were both in command in this action the British in this action were successful and the American Troops were nearly surrounded that he was in the Battle of Germantown the Battle commenced at Allens Country Country seat. That the American Troops were successful until they had drove the British as far as Germantown Market house at which place the British were reinforced and they then drove the Americans back again in this battle Genl. Washington was Chief in Command and he does not remember whether the Genl. La Fayette was in this Battle or not

Blood flowed freely that Brandywine Creek was quite bloody - That he was also in a small affair called Red Bank 17 or 18. miles from Philadelphia that he had his Commission as Capt of Waggons until within a few Years past but that about 40 Years past he got it with his other papers so damaged that it has become illegible in crossing a stream of water in North Carolina, a waggon containing some furniture and all his papers having overturned - That after his first enlistment he went to Philadelphia thence through the Jerseys to the North River, thence back to Philadelphia that he was stationed there a while there was ordered to take a number of waggons with money provisions & clothing to White Plains in New York that he performed his duty and was honorably discharged but he never applied for it - That he has never received any pay or pension whatever and he does hereby relinquish every claim to a pension or annuity whatever except the present, And he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state sworn to and subscribed in open Court this day and year first written.
John Gove
State of Indiana } Sullivan County } Personally appeared Before me the subscriber a Justice of the peace for said county: George Smith and made oath that he knew that John Gove served as aforesaid in the Revolutionary war in the capacity of a wagon master from about the year 1776 to the end of the war Given under my hand and seal this 29 th day of March 1833
James S. Reid J.P. Seal
Also certifying that George Smith served

I do certify That the above named George Smiths testimony is good and Valid in any court of Justice
James G Reid S.S.
State of Pennsylvania Sullivan County } Person only appeared before me the Subscriber a Justice of the peace for said County. Elizabeth Hinkle and said with that she knew the within named John Grove did serve in the Revolution -ary war as Waggon Master that he came to her fathers house with his company rested some days and returned with his company in command as Captain as before mentioned Given under my hand and Seal this 29th day of March 1833
James G Reid S.S.
I do certify That the above named Elizabeth Hinkles testimony is good and Valid in any court of Justice
James G Reid S.S.

Shelby County State of Kentucky
} Personally appeared on the eighth day of June in
the year 1835 John Groves aged 87 years President of the County of Jefferson and State of Kentucky, before the County Court of said Shelby County now sitting, and upon his oath made in due form of law, made the following statements, as an affidavit and explanatory of his original declaration taken before the Jefferson Circuit Court on the 10 th day of April 1833, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions of the act of Congress of the 7 th of June 1832.
Question 1st where and in what year, were you born. Answer I was born on the 23 rd day of July in the year 1750, seven miles from Philadelphia, on the Germantown Road in Pennsylvania, near to Allen's Country seat where the Battle of Germantown first began.
Question 2. Have you any record of your
age, if so where is it.
Answer I have seen my age recorded in the family Bible, of my parents, who were Dutch people, whose name sounded Groff & Grove some of my brothers spell their name Groff.
Question 3 rd Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since and when do you now live.
Answer I lived at the place of my birth

When I first entered the Military Service in the War of the Revolution. The first service, I did was in the year 1775 - as a private in a militia Company of Infantry Commanded by Captain Lacy of the 5 th Regiment of Pennsylvania Militia. The Colonel's name I cannot now recollect but I think his name was Armstrong. I marched with my Company from Phil- adelphia to Brunswick, when we were discharged, after having performed a tour of duty of three or four weeks. Nicholas Beem whose deposition is taken, and attached to the original papers sent by me to the War Department, was along with me, and in the same Company on this tour. After my return home, and from my best recollection in the same year, General Hildebrand, was pressing wagons to carry the Military stores and ammunition from Philadelphia to Fre- derick Town in the state of Maryland in order to save them from falling into the hands of the British, who at that time, were about to attempt to take Philadelphia, and I volunteered to drive a Team and wagon which belonged to one family, to Frederick Town. Whilst at Frederick Town, I met with an officer whose name I do not recollect, who at that time was recruiting soldiers to march in

Captain Cross's Company, and a number of my acquaintances, like Hinkle, Frederick Brinkley Jacob Grove and others, said that if would enlist they would enlist also. The officer then hinted to me, to take the eight dollars off the Arson Head, saying that he would allow me three weeks to join the Company but with the sole understanding between myself and the officer, that there was no binding contract on my part, and that it was a mere device to induce the others to enlist, which they did, and I returned back with my Team to the Continental Yard Seventh Street Philadelphia. This will explain, what I meant should be understood in my original Declaration, when I state that "I was enlisted for Captain Cross's Company, and was allowed three weeks to join the Army after he was enlisted," and that if there is any additional statements in my original Declaration, which which it can be inferred, that I was bound and did proceed to fulfil any contract of enlistment, as a private soldier, it is contrary to the fact, and what I did not intend to say. When I got back to Philadelphia there was a Brigade of Waggons loaded with Tents and Military Stores for the American Army, ready to start to North River. My half brother Philip Hinkle, who was Captain of the Blackston Bty, Seventh Street Philadelphia, introduced me to General Hild amer, and I went up into his quarters, and he gave me a pass to go on board as Wagoner

Master in the Continental Service. This was in the year 1776, and I think very soon after the Declaration of American Inde- pendence. I served in the capacity of Wagon Master, under this Commission from Philadel- phia to the Schuylkill River, and from thence back to Philadelphia, and from thence with the same Brigade of Waggons loaded with stores for the Army to Morris Town, and from thence back to Philadelphia, and from thence again to the White Plains with clothing, stores and money for the Troops. I was at the White Plains, when the Battle of the White Plains took place. From thence I returned to Philadelphia, when we continued hauling forage, not very long before the Battle of Brandywine, in the year 1777. After the Battle of Brandywine, we went to the Valley Forge, and by then one winter, and then our Army went across the Schuylkill at the Swedes Ford, and from thence to the White Marsh, and continued to serve as Wagon Master and by then we  until the Battle ended at Red Bank  until the Battle of Red Bank  for several days  for several days the Battle of  the Battle of  at  at  Red Bank  Red Bank , when our Army was repulsed, and went back to skip some creek on the Wightman farm. After the Battle of Red Bank, the British evacuated Philadelphia some time in June, and marched on towards New Market, our Troops under General Washington being in their rear. After the Battle of Red Bank our Troops marched to Philadelphia, from thence General Washington marched to Virginia with the Army. My Brigade remained under my

in mind at Philadelphia, I have endeavored to detail briefly such incidents of the War, as I can now recollect, I am so old and my memory is so bad that I cannot state the months or years when particular events occurred with more accuracy than I have done. John Huber Colb Furniss was Forage Master at the Valley Forge, when I saw Genl Lee, who was exchanged there, having been before that a prisoner. Genl Shultz commanded the Wagon Department in the actual service. I know Col Michell was paymaster at Phila- delphia, and also Col Armstrong, and Genl Wayne who were both at the Battle of Germantown. I know and now again state that I served in the capacity of Wagon Master from the time I received my commission, as before stated from Genl Hancock, until the War ended, at the rate of twenty five Dollars per month. After the War ended I went to North Carolina, and in that state it was that in crossing a stream of water his Wagon containing his family and goods, was upset and all his papers including his commission were very much injured, and his commission so damaged that but a small piece with the seal annexed remained. That until within a few years before his original declaration was made, he had the seal of his commission in his possession but he has lost that and every part of his said Commission. He states that he was dis- charged at Philadelphia. After the War ended

but received no written discharge, that he recollects of. He states again that he has never received any pension or annuity whatever and over hereby relinquishes every claim to a pension or annuity, under the acts of Congress providing pensions for soldiers, officers of the War of the Revolution, ex- cept the present. And he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any agency in any state. Sworn to and subscribed in Open Court, this day and year first above written
John Groove
Shelby County } The Deposition of Mary Groove State of Kentucky } Taken at the Court House in Shelbyville before the County Court of Shelby County now sitting, who being first duly sworn upon her oaths declares, that she well knows John Groove whose name subscribed the foregoing declaration that she is a daughter of said John Groove that she knows that her said Father had in his possession some years ago, a paper with a large seal annexed to it, purporting to be a commission to him of some office or rank in the Army of the Revolution. That there was a stamp of letters or figures on each side of the seal. That her Mother fre- quently observed to her children, to put away that paper, it being Father's Commission that there was a white piece of tape and a ribbon which connected the seal and the paper together. That she knows that all her Father's papers were injured and some lost in crossing Upper Creek in North Carolina near Johns River, that the paper purporting

As to a commission was among them. That the seal was in her mother's chest some years after the paper which had been annexed to it was destroyed. That the seal was in the family I think when I married and left the family. Sworn to her in Court here. the 8 th 1835.
Mary Speer (Moor)
We Charles Kinkle sen and Charles Kinkle jun residing in Shelby County hereby certify that we are well acquain- ted John Grove who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be of the age he states; that he is respected and believed in the neigh- borhood where he resides, to have served in the Revolutionary War as a wagon master and that we concur in that opinion. Charles Kinkle sen sworn to and subscribed in open Court here 8 th 1835. Charles Kinkle jun
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories deemed pertinent that the aforesaid John Grove served in the Revolutionary War as he in his declaration states. And the Court further certifies, that Mary Speer before deposition was taken upon this application, and said Charles Kinkle senior Charles Kinkle jun are credible persons and their statements are entitled to credit and the said Court further certifies that it appears to them upon satisfactory evidence that said John Grove is the same identifiable person whose declaration was made before the Superior

Circuit Court, upon an application for a pension
Mark Harrison P.P.
I James T. Whitaker Clerk of the Court of Shelby County do hereby Certify that the foregoing Contains the Original Proceedings of the said Court in the Matter of the Application of John Knapp for a Pension In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set My hand and Seal of
Office this 10 th day of June 1835.
J. T. Whitaker Clerk Shelby County Court

State of Kentucky } Jefferson County }
On this 29 th day of June, 1853, personally appeared before the undersigned a Justice of the peace of the County and State of Kentucky, Margart Ann Grove a resident of Jefferson County, Kentucky aged about eighty eight years who first being duly sworn according to law, doth, on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed on the 3 rd February, 1853, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War; That she is the widow of John Grove dec d . who was a wagon conductor in the Revolutionary War, and who was entitled to four hundred and eighty dollars per annum, as will appear by reference, which is herewith made to the papers on file in the Pension Department at Washington City and upon which a certificate issued on the 24 th day of May, 1853, made payable to this declarant, for the said sum of $480- per annum.
She further declares that she is blind, and very infirm in other respects, and physically unable to go to the County Seat which is eighteen miles distant and make this declaration in open court. She also declares that she still remains a widow - that her husband said Grove died 11 th Dec r 1848. and that she was married to said Grove on the

17 th day of August 1819 but not prior to 2 nd Jan y 1800.
Margaret Ann Mark Grove Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year first above written, before me. I further Certify that said Margaret Ann Grove is well known to me. She is the widow of John Grove dec d . and is blind and unable to appear in open court to make oath to the foregoing declaration.
Robt Miller J.P.
Witness Mary Newkirk
Wm R. Vance
State of Kentucky ss. Jefferson County 3 rd .
I Curran Pope Clerk of the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that Robert Miller is and was at the time of signing the foregoing an acting justice of the Peace duly commissioned and sworn and his foregoing signature is genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the seal of said County This 9 th day of July 1823
Curran Pope Clerk By Ch o M c Thurston Dr. oc

State of Kentucky Fiferan County 30th
I Annan Pope clerk of the County Court for the County of Fiferan do certify that the following is a true extract from the marriage register on file in my office -
" 12 th of July 1819
John Grove
to
The said Margaret being a
Margaret Newkirk and in
Married 17 th Augt 1819 & license
returned by
Daniel Ward
In testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 11 th day of July 1855
By Annan Pope clerk W. M. Thurston S.D.O.

March 4, 1940
BA-J/AWF John Grove B. 1756
Mrs. Mary R. Wolcott 22 West Fourth Street Williamsport, Pennsylvania
Dear Madam:
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in claim for pension, W. 1756, based upon service of John Grove in the War of the Revolution.
John Grove was born July 23, 1756, seven miles from Philadelphia, on the Germantown Road, in Pennsylvania. The names of his parents were not given; it was stated that they were Dutch and the name was sometime spelt Groff.
While residing in the place where he was born, John Grove served three or four weeks as private in Captain Lacey's company, Colonel Armstrong's Pennsylvania regiment; after which he volunteered and drove his own team from Philadelphia to "Fredericktown", Maryland, carried military stores and ammunition, length of service not given. He was commissioned in the year 1776, Captain of Wagons, was in the battles of White Plains, Brandywine, Paoli, Germantown, wintered at Valley Forge, in the battle of Monmouth, and continued in the service until the close of the war.
After the close of the war, John Grove went to North Carolina, and then moved to Kentucky.
He applied for pension April 10, 1833, then

living in Jefferson County, Kentucky; he lived also, in Shelby County, Kentucky. The pension was allowed.
John Grove died December 11, 1843, in Monroe County, Missouri, where he had been living, only, a few months, with his son, Martin Grove.
John Grove married August 17, 1819, in Jefferson County, Kentucky, Margaret Ann Newkirk. The date and place of her birth, and names of parents are not shown.
The widow, Margaret Ann Grove, was allowed pension on her application executed June 29, 1853, at which time she was aged eighty-eight years, and a resident of Jefferson County, Kentucky, with her daughter, Mary Newkirk.
Mary Speer or Spear, daughter of John Grove, was living in 1835, in Shelby County, Kentucky.
Martin Grove, the son referred to above, was sixty years of age in 1853, then living in Monroe County, Missouri.
Reference was made to Philip Hinkle, half-brother of John Grove, who was "Captain of Blacksmiths in Philadelphia" during the Revolution, also to Jesse Hinkle and Jacob Grove, who served in the Revolution. The relationship of Jesse Hinkle and Jacob Grove to John Grove was not stated.
In 1835, Charles Hinkle, Senior, and Charles Hinkle, Junior, were living in Shelby County, Kentucky; reference was made in 1838 to one W. I. Grove; and in 1853, Jacob Newkirk of Jefferson County, Kentucky, stated that he had been well acquainted with the widow, Margaret Ann Grove, "since his childhood". It is not shown that these persons were related to the

family, and the papers on file in this claim contain no further discernible data relative to family.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid, and possibly the date of death of the widow, Margaret Ann Grove, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and furnish the following data:
Margaret Ann Grove, widow of John Grove Certificate #2320 Issued October 6, 1853 Rate $480.00 per annum Commenced February 3, 1853 Act of February 3, 1853 Kentucky Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

STATE OF Kentucky COUNTY OF Jefferson } ss:
Be it known, that on this Seventh day of September , A. D. eighteen hundred and fifty two , before the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, personally appeared Margaret Ann Grove , a resident of Kentucky  Jefferson in said County, and made oath according to law, that She is the the widow to wit the wife of John Grove deceased who was a wagon master in the war of the revolution, he having made his declaration for a pension in the year 1835 which living in Shelby County Kentucky, and no allowance as having been made his claim having been rejected, she as his widow seeks payment of her deceased husband's pay under that She is directly interested, as aforesaid, as a claimant, and makes this affidavit for the purpose of obtaining such Amount of Pension as may be due under any of the Laws, Regulations, or decisions that have been or may hereafter be adopted. The said Affiant further declares that She hereby constitutes and appoints Calib White and D. D. Adolison to be Attorneys and Agent to prosecute said claim, with power of substitution, to examine all papers and documents in relation to it, and to do all things necessary and lawful in the premises; except drawing the money, which will be hereafter provided for. his
Sworn to and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid, before me,
B H Humphreys J. Peace. Calib White
Margaret Ann Grove in her
I, B W Humphreys Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, do hereby certify that Margaret Ann Grove , above named, is a respectable resident of this County, and is, as I believe, directly interested in said claim as therein set forth, and acknowledges the above Power of Attorney to be his act and deed.
B H Humphreys J. Peace.
In testimony that the above-named B W Humphreys was a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, at the date of the same, I hereby subscribe my name and affix the County Seal. Witness my hand this 8 th September 1882
Carran Pope atty By Thomas A Morgan D. D. Clerk

March 4, 1940
Mrs. Mary R. Wolcott 22 West Fourth Street Williamsport, Pennsylvania
BA-J/AWP aw John Grove-W.1756 Philip Grove-S.22272 / James Reid-S.22457
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of a great number of soldiers, with the surnames Reed, Reid, etc, and Grove, all of whom served from Pennsylvania.
This office has no general genealogical data on file. Revolutionary War data furnished by this office are obtained from claims for pension and bounty land which have been made to the United States, based upon service in that war.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is not possible to comply in full with each request which requires so much time and research.
You are furnished herewith the Revolutionary War records of John Grove, Philip Grove, and James Reid. It is hoped that these records will be of interest to you.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator
Her letter in this claim

Bureau of Pensions. Rev. 1812 Wars Section.
February 24, 1931.
541
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Rev. War claim for pension of John Grove, File No. W.1756.
Actual 1 of each page.
Remitter: Cora C. Curry, 1420 Girard Street, N. W., Washington, D. C.
$1.80.....13 pages
xxx
Kindly leave margin of 1½ in. at top of each page and return papers in each case in folder with corresponding name and number. The word "omit" written in pencil on those pages which are not to be copied.
Chief, Rev. 1812 Wars Section.

List to Cora C. Curry:
Col. decl. Apr. 10-1833
Elizabeth Hinkle's affidavit. Mar. 29 - 1833 — 1 "
Mary Spker, Charles Hinkle Jr. & Cr. affid June 8, 1835
state Dept. let. dated Apr. 16 - 1853 + Court's ilcord 3 " 1 "
W. M. ... 1430 ... Street Washington, D. C. Referred: Col. C. ...

Cash - $1.80 FINANCE DIVISION BOOK-KEEPER'S BOOK FEB 26 1931 BUREAU OF PENSIONS
February 24, 1931
Commissioner of Pensions Washington, D. C.
Please furnish me photostatic copies, not certified, of twelve pages from the Revolutionary War pension claim of John Grove, widow Margaret Ann, W. 1756.
Miss Cora C. Curry 1420 Girard Street N.W. Washington, D. C.
Received payment
$1.80
Antonia W. Ford Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section.
Oct 3 October 25, 1923.
S. S. Maxwell, 15 Hillside Court, Berkeley, Calif.
Sir;
I have to advise you that from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 1756, it appears that John Grove was born July 23, 1750, seven miles from Philadelphia, on the Germantown Road, and while residing there enlisted 1775 and served three or four weeks in Captain Lacey's company, Colonel Armstrong's Pennsylvania regiment.
In 1776, he was appointed Wagon Conductor and served until close of the war. He was at the battles of White Plains, Brandywine, Paoli, Germantown and Monmouth.
He died December 11, 1843 in Monroe County, Missouri.
Soldier married August 17, 1819, Margaret Ann

Newkirk, she was allowed pension on her application executed June 29, 1853, while a resident of Jefferson County, Kentucky, aged about eighty eight years.
They had children- Martin, aged sixty one years in 1853 and living in Monroe County, Missouri; Daughters Mary Spear and Mary Newkirk; are the only names mentioned.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

1881 Feb 9 Faint handwritten text, possibly bleed-through from the reverse side of the page.

Williamsport Pa Feb. 1st 1940.
A. D. Miller
Exe. Assistant this city to the Administrator Veterans Administration Washington D.C.
Dear Sir
I would like to obtain a full copy of a Rev. Soldiers Pension Claim who came from Lancaster Co. to Lycoming Co. and settled after the Rev. War and the Big Runaway on Muncy Creek and who served in the 8th Class, 8th Company of the 6th Battalions, 1777 reference Penna archives, 5 series volume 7, page 538. There also was a Solomon Reed in Berks Co. and he also served from that county (Berks). I imagine they are one and the same man is there any way to ascertain this. if they are two persons and not one and the same person will you kindly give me a copy of their claim for a pension. I have a lady from Wisconsin for whom I am making a research of her revolutionary ancestor. Solomon Reed. Reed the name has been spelled various ways as I have found it in history and they are all the same clan. Do you have a James Reid who applied for a Pension. Do you have the Pension Claim of William Reed 3 rd Lieut. of the history of President Reed of the Con was Council in Philadelphia it was he they all applied to the Council and he answered the letters but it never gave his first name always addressed him as President Reed and his letters were always answered as President Reed. Solomon Reed had a son William Reed name also was spelled Reid often times fathers and sons both served in the Rev. War. probably William is the Reed that served in the Rev. War.

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see if you cannot round up an James Reed that just in a claim for a pension I have a James Reed b. June 8th 1794 and want to find his Rev. ancestor. There is a John Reed with a middle name who served in the Revolution that served in the Revolution war if you give me those I can find our missing link then to I am personally acquainted for abt 25 years with the state genealogist when I am through with these Rev Sol. records and they go down on the state records at Harrisburg I have given them lots of Rev. sol. I found in my research which they had no record of and were pleased to get it with the reference the same family come down their rev ancestor is Peter Grove on which she joined the M.S.D.A.R. I would like to have also John Phillipe Grove he is buried on the Adesholt farm and was a Rev. sol. if you could give me his service what company he served in and copy of his pension claim he received for his services over seven hundred acres of land from it was first Heburn township then Lycoming township Lycoming Co. Pa. it extended from Bealtys Run toingleville he died on Bealtys Run was buried on his farm there the Groves resided there over a 100 years some still reside there quite a few of them there are many descendents.
There were three Grove brothers in the Rev. war some of these also settled in Buffalo valley above Smilbury where the Massacre took place where Winfield is located above Smilbury and another lot of the descendents of the Groves settled at where Monesta Ford Co. Pa. Peter Grove Rev. sol. on whom she joined the D.A.R. resided in Lycoming Co. where Jersey shore now is located removed elsewhere I am giving you the location where the Grove those I know located which I believe will be a help to you to locate them. This is the Rev. ancestor she joined the D.A.R. Sent Peter Grove. He m. Sarah Whitmore of Muncy creek do you have any Rev. sol. Whitmore of Muncy creek at that time it was Northumberland Co. organized into Lycoming Co. April 13, 1795. This locality all previous to that period was Northumberland Co. Pa. Sent Peter Grove the Indian scout drowned 1802 is buried at Lock Haven his grave has been marked there is also a monument erected in the Park at Lock Haven Pa.
There is also a large granite monument in the Park of Lock Haven to mark the site of Fort Reed which was the old Reed home. I imagine that here must have been a Rev. sol. you certainly must have something among the pension claims or perhaps land given him for his services because they were located there just after the Rev. war before Lock Haven existed. I have an idic that his name must have been James because there is a James Reed b. Jan. 14 my Mabel Reed is a descendents of the Reeds of the Reed Fort at Lock Haven but at the time of the Rev. war it was Northumberland Co. but it may have been Northumberland she says it was either Lycoming or Clinton Jersey shore was Northumberland and Lycoming Lock Haven at that time may have been Lycoming Co.

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It is confusing when you are searching for a Rev soldier and do not know the changes that have been made in those localities now there are his ancestors
James Reid she says the name was spelled at that time but it has been spelled Reed Read and various ways. James Reed was born Sept. 28 1837. his son was James Reed b. June 21, 1794, He m. Oct. 11th 1818 in Lycoming Co. Phoebe Grove b. Dec 25 1800. These were Mabel Reids grandparents Phoebe Grove was the youngest Daughter of Lieut Peter Grove and his wife Sarah Whitmore Grove on whose record she joined the D.A.R.
I have an idea that the Rev. sol. that the Reed monument was erected for is Mabel Reids Revolution ancestor and believe these two aforesaid James were named James for him I have found many many Reeds in the histories in Schuylkill valley now called Susquehanna valley 1876. Lycoming Co history West Branch valley flows through our city. I feel pretty sure that this Rev. sol is her ancestor as also is Solomon Reed he is the father of this Reed of the Reed Post or his grandfather. I trust you can locate the name of that Reed I cannot find any information of him. He & you will find if he just is a pension claim. I often need any land Peter Grove had a brother Michael and John Philip Grove Rev. Record I will turn all to Harrisburg to go down on the states records which they appreciated greatly. Here is some Grove data might be a help to you of Mabel Reids ancestor
Grove
annals of Buffalo Valley
Peter Grove Detachment
for service on the Frontier June 1st 1881 etc I am omitting some here to leave to write. Peter Grove Detachment for service on the Frontier I see we written this twice well it don't matter I merely mention the following
In 1781 the first Battalion of the Northumberland Co. Militia commanded by Col. John Kelly was composed of eight Companies
 Capt. John Hosler 55 men  " James Thompson 44 men  " George Overmeyer 51 men  " Samuel Fincher 55 men  " Samuel Young 51 men  " Abraham 53 men  " William Irvine 53 men  " William Grey 44 men 
I hope this data may be of help to you and thanking you and trust you will answer my appeal at your earliest convenience I will appreciate it greatly I have worked on this line and can't find the connection nothing to prove it and its getting on my nerves searching histories. Mrs. Mary R. Wolcott Genealogist 22 W. 4 St. West. Penna.

AFTER 5 DAYS RETURN TO
Mrs. Mary R. Wolcott Genealogist 22 West Fourth Street. WILLIAMSPORT, PA.
ILLIA
11 A D Oct. 10, 1887. Ex

Dec. 1, 1925.
Commissioner of Pensions,
Sir:
Please furnish photostat copies of twelve pages from the Revolutionary War pension claim, W. 1756. of John Grove. not certified.
Miss Kate S. Curry 1420 Girard St. N.W. Washington, D.C.
received payment Dec. 1, 1925.
$1.80
W. H. Nelson
Chief Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.

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BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Finance Division
Dec. 1. 1925
Chief Rev. Sec. Division.
I have this day received from Miss Kate S. Curry cash No. for $1.80 in payment of requesting
photostat copy post office address as per memo letter herewith
copies delivered to his person in name of notary
O. J. RANDALL
Chief Finance Div.
W.L.L.
Request for Photostating 3-2006 Ex. A.W. (To be prepared in duplicate.)
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF CLERK 2753
Job No. Date Dec. 3. 1925
Subject John Grove - Rev. W. 1756
1 copies of 4 pieces consisting of 12 pages to be (No.) (No.)
forwarded when completed to the Red Cross War Section Division.
Remarks:
Approved:
W. L. Nelson
Chief Division Sec.
Chief Clerk.

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PHYSIOLOGY
BERKELEY
Sept., 10, 1921.
Pension Department, Washington, D.C.
Can you inform me whether information may be obtained concerning the application for pension by John Grove, a soldier in the Revolutionary war?
A family history privately printed gives the following facts:
John Grove, son of Martin Grove, was born in Pennsylvania, probably at York. He served in North Carolina under General Nathaniel Greene. He was called Captain because placed by Greene in charge of a supply train, but perhaps was never regularly commissioned.
After the Revolution he resided in North Carolina until 1810 when he removed to Floyd's Fork, Jefferson County, Kentucky. (In 1824 he went to Louisville to renew acquaintance with Lafayette who was revisiting America.)
When about ninety years of age he made application for a pension; that would probably be between 1845 and 1850.
The pension was granted four years later, just after his death. Just before his death he removed to Monroe Co., Missouri.
It would be a very great favor to us if a copy of the application, or a statement of the facts set forth therein could be obtained.
Very respectfully,
S.S. Maxwell, 15 Hillside Court, Berkeley, California.

Bray
WIDOW, &c.
File No. 1756
Margaret S. Gove Widow John Gove Wagn. Cour. Rec. book
Act: July 3, 1853
Index:—Vol. A , Page 285-
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1923 Oct. 25. H. to F.S. Maxwell aut. date S. 1925 Dec. 8. Copies delivered to Miss Galt S. Curry my person and 1931 Feb. 28. Photos mailed to Coral C. Curry Mrs. Dew. mtd. 40.7. to Mrs. Mary R. Wolcott 1940. much of link to this claim and see her letter in this claim and

13 558 John Groves
John Groves
Declaration
for a Pension
Kentucky
Feb y 4 1839 Ref d to the Com tee on Rev y Pensions
May 4. 1840.
Ref d (under rule) to the Com tee on Revolutionary Pensions
April 25. 1840 - Report versus see report N o 496.
Hon. P. H. Pope

State of Illinois } I, Jacob Harlan, Clerk of Clark County } the County Commissioners Court of Clark County, certify that Abner Hark is a Magistrate as above and that the foregoing signatures purporting to his are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto

710. 38. 514 John Grove dec d Ny adm d . June 7 1832 2 yrs W. cond. $480. per annum from 4 March 1831 to 11 Dec 1843 when he died
Pay to Margaret Ann Grove, his widow.
Cert to D. D. Addison Present

Recd 18 June
Shelbyville June 17. 1835.
Dear Sir.
I enclose to you the original and amended Declaration of John Groves, the first made before the Circuit Court of Jefferson County, the amended one thereto made before the County Court of Shelby County, which it is hoped will not weaken the force of the evidence adduced in support of his claim. Mr Groves seems to have been from the first unfortunate in not having his Declaration presented to the War Department as soon as it ought to have been. He is a very old and infirm man, and lives in Jefferson County very near the Shelby line, and nearer to this place than to Louisville by several miles, which is the reason of his making his amended Declaration in the Court here, being advised by me, that if he was sufficiently identified to be the same person originally applying, it would answer every purpose. I think the proof is entirely clear that he served in the capacity of Wagon Master, and his amended statement will remove the obscurity in the original, which according to the construction which from Mr Edwards' letter appears to have been given to it, imports that he actually enlisted as a private soldier, and that therefore it is improbable, that he would have been taken out of the ranks, and appointed a Wagon Master. I think it evident that he did not intend to enlist that way, as he does not even say for what term he enlisted, and by a careful examination

of that paper, it will be found that there is no discrepancy between the statements therein, and those in his amended declaration. I have observed nothing in any of the statements made by the witnesses, which justifies the concluding sentence of Mr. Edwards' letter. Nicholas Bean is the only witness who states anything of his having served in a Pennsylvania Regiment, and he does not say that Grove "enlisted in a Regiment of the Pennsylvania Line," but that he "entered the service." I think there is a strict conformity between the testimony of Bean and the statements of the applicant. All of which I respectfully submit to your consideration, and invite your earliest attention to the claims of this man. I enclose the deposition of Martin Grove also.
Yours Obedt Servt James C. Griffith
Lewis C. Eng
To the Hon ble
Lewis C. Eng
Secretary of War

Department of State Washington April 16. 1853
D. D. Addison Esq. Sir
In reply to your note of this date addressed to this Department, I have to say, that it appears from the Revolutionary Rolls and papers now on file in this Department that John Grove did serve in the Continental Army as a waggon conductor. His name appears in an "Account of Stores sent from Col John Mitchell Dep't Dr. Mr. Genl to Col. Col of Dep't Dr. Mr. Genl at Estutown" in the column entitled "By whom sent" which paper is found on page 137. Vol 3. no 173
I am Sir, Respectfully
Your obed. Servt
W. L. Marcy.

Genl W Parker
Fuller's
L G Edwards Esq
Cannysville Gardens
Washington City
Mr

Phillipsburg Jan 18 1881
Sir
I have, since I have been in this place conversed with Mr. Pope, upon the subject of Groves' claim. He does not remember the names of the several deponents whose depositions accompanied the original declaration, nor do I believe I shall be able to find out what papers are omitted to be sent on which had before been before you. Mr. Pope states that all the papers were connected together and if that be the case, I am very certain none were detached, whilst the business has been under my agency. If however you can suggest the particular paper that is now wanting it may serve me as a guide in future inquiries, in regard to it. I infer that as a decision of the claim is suspended, until the omitted paper is supplied that the evidence as it now appears is sufficient. I deemed that the claim was as well supported as it can be made at this late day, but if any further proof is wanting, let me know, and I will apply to Mr. Groves for it.
Very respectfully your obedt servt Samuel H. Groves

D. D. Addison

May 8 524 John Light, in his declaration under the Act of June 7 th 1832, alleges that his pay as Forage Master, in the Revolution, was $35 per month. For this reason the commissioner of Pensions refused to allow his Widow Catharine Light, the rate of Pension allowed to all others of similar grade, Vix $600 per Annum. —
An appeal was taken from this decision to the Hon ble W m Ewing, then Secretary of the Interior, who, you will perceive, by reference to his letter of the 2 nd of April 1850 to the commissioner of Pensions, overruled that objection and directed that the amount of Pension should be settled by the provisions of law, and not by the recollections of the party.
In the case of Abraham Furman, of New York, similar objection was made on similar grounds, as will be seen by the Report of the commissioner of Pensions, to the Secretary of the Interior, of the 17 th of August 1850. In this case, W m Stuart, then Secretary of the Interior, overruled the objection, and directed that the claim be allowed for $600 per Annum, in conformity with the decision of his predecessor, W m Ewing, given in the case of Mrs Light above referred to. (See Letter of W m Stuart to comm r of Pensions Nov r — 1850 —)

I beg leave here to add that in nine cases out of ten, where reference is made to pay Applicants for Pension claim (instead of at 80 cts per as in this case) to have received a higher rate than was authorized by Law, and by departing from the rule laid down by the late Secretaries (and which has governed the Office ever since) the Commissioner will find difficulties respecting rates of Pension arising in almost every case
The foregoing statement is respectfully submitted to the Commissioner of Pensions to be used in the case of John Grove of Kentucky.
D. D. Addison
Washington May 5 th 1853

Brief in the case of Catharine Light widow of Jos Pa
& Reference to the case of Abraham Fairman of NY.
Mr. Portch

On the 29 th August 1832. John Light of Pa. made a declaration of which the following is an abstract. —
Born 25 th Dec r 1754. — Early in 1775 joined minute men under Ferekinghugson, one of the first who signed the paper after the call. During summer often paraded, under cap (afterwards Col) Taylor, — On 28 Oct r 1775. enlisted for one year (which superceded his previous engagement) in 1 st N Y Reg t . Capt. Polhemus' Co, Lord Sterling Col y of the Reg t . Reg t afterwards under Col Wines, — In Spring of 1776 3 rd or 4 th of March, Reg t left NY for Canada, went to Lakes George & Champlain, thence into the St Lawrence River, in the battle of Three Rivers under Col Thompson, who commanded the whole detachment, Col Thompson defeated & taken prisoner, Retreats & went to Crown Point & Ticonderoga, lay there until Nov r & remained two weeks beyond time at request of Genl. Green, British being near, Discharged 21 November 1776 by Col Mathias Ogden, Was at home but two or three days when he joined

Genl. Washington in his retrograde march through the Jerseys, was at the battle of Prince- ton, when a number of prisoners was taken. Went- with prisoners to Pluckaminy. After the British to Brunswick, he was appointed guide or assistant to scouting parties sent from Princeton, was in several skirmishes, was at the battle of Germantown 1777, — On the 8 Octo 1778, enlisted for two years in 4th Regt. Light Dragoons commanded by Col. Stephen May- lan, Capt Plunkett's troop, afterwards Col Pike, At the battle of Monmouth, Discharged by Col Moylan 21 March 1781. In the year 1780. was appointed assistant to Thos. Thackam who was Forage Master & on his (Thackam's) resignation, on 26 July 1781 he (Light) was appointed Forage Master by Col Pickering, served in that capacity to the end of the war, his appointment as Q.M. was kept by Col Pickering to assist him in the settlement of his own accounts,
He says his pay was £ $ 35.00 per month & two rations , He was promised $10. extra pay monthly for having the care and command of the wagons, teams & drivers of the Regt

which pay he never received. Bank that of captain, ==
See copy of the Decision of Hon T Ewing Secy of Interior marked (AB) in which he says "The amount of pension should be settled by the provisions of law, and not by the recol- lections of the party." The date of the above de- cision is April 4 1880, ==
Case allowed for $600. per annum.
In the case of Abraham Furman of NY Hon A.H.H. Stewart decided that his claim should be allowed at $600, because that was the rate of pay allowed in such cases by the decision of Hon T Ewing, ap 4 1880, in the case of Catharine Light. Furman said nothing about the amount received by him per month . The decision in Furman's case is marked (BC) dated Nov 5 1880.
Case allowed for $600 per annum. Triplett

Washington Sept. 14 th 1832
W. Mr.
I enclose herewith a power of Attorney from the widow of John Grove, dec d late an applicant for a pension from Kentucky, under the act of June 7 th 1832, and have to request that you will cause the papers in support of his claim to be examined, and the objections, if any, to its admission pointed out, so that I may endeavor to supply what further proof is necessary.
As this claim has been many years before your Office I beg that you will give it your early attention. In the mean time I have respectfully to request permission to see his papers on file in your Office.
I am Very respectfully W. M. O. B. St.
D. D. Addison
J. C. Steall Esq. Com te Pension

Brief in the case of
Margaret Ann Grove, Widow of John, Jefferson County and State of Kentucky, act 3 rd Feby: 1853,
Claim, ("original," or "for increase.")
Proof exhibited, (if original.)
Is it documentary, traditional, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance.
Widow drew a pension from 4 th March: 1831. to 11 th Decemb. 1843, the date of the death of her said husband, under the Act of 7 th June, 1832, at the rate of $480. 00 per Annum. for his services as Wagon Conductor.
Record Evidence of Marriage,
(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
W. M. Gray, Esq., Louisville, Ky. Name and residence of Agent
A. B. Stanton, Examining Clerk.

Comm of Pensions
Hon. L. Steenrod,
House of Representatives.

Pension Office;
April 2 nd 1840.
Sir,
In reply to your letter in the case of John Grove, I have to inform you that his claim has not been allowed, because the evidence exhibited was not satisfactory proof that he was appointed a Wagon Master, under Genl Hilehammer, subject to Military obligations. The claim cannot be admitted under the act of June 7. 1832, unless some record or documentary testimony be exhibited at this Office, shewing that he was so appointed.
I have the honor to be, very respectfully,
Hon. L. Steenrod, House of Representatives.
Your obt. servt. J L Edwards

Brief in the case of John Grove dec? County and State of Kentucky act June 7 1832
Claim, ("original," or for increase. )
Proof exhibited, (if original.)
Is it documentary, traditionary, or supported by rolls? If either, state the substance.
This application was made many years ago. He furnished the testimony of two witnesses, who served with him, or were in a position to know that he did serve one of whom was pensioned for his own services, the office demanded Record evidence of his service. Lately evidence has been furnished from the State Department that he did serve in the
(If for increase.)
Has additional evidence been filed since the admission of the claim? If so, what?
Capacity of a Wagon conductor. The claim is therefore, admitted. A full Brief of the evidence, in the papers,
Name and residence of Agent
A. D. Addison Esq Present
Thomas Ripleff Examining Clerk.

Mar 30. 1840
Wirt
In Grove
Edwards Esq.
Mississippi Department
H. Stearns
Mr
As a long for
Feb
Ans? Mar 31. 1840.

Washington March 29 th
Sir
Please inform me on what grounds in your Department you rejected the application of John G. Hovey for a Pension. Tell me the information that may be in your possession in relation to it.
"He enlisted, he says in in his Declaration in the year 1776 in Fredericktown Md. for Capt. Bishop's Company. That in Philadelphia within three weeks after he was appointed Capt. in the Wagon Department by Genl. Hillhammer who had the general command of the Waggons."
Yours obediently
M. M c Guire

Apr. 1. 1840.
Portia
J. O. Gove, New
Edwards
Essex
Hand Stearns H. R.
Post-Department Washington D.C.

Washington April 1 st
D Sir
In reply to your letter of the 31 st of March, I inform you that John Groves resides in in Kentucky Pulaski Co. or his application is now before the court there & he is so represen- ted there to reside
I am
Yours
not sent
H. Monroe

Apr 18/53
Cal

The power of Attorney and my letter requesting an Examination of the case of Mrs. Moore was filed in the Pension Office Sept. 14 th 1852. Since which I have rec d no reply. The parties are becoming very impatient and threaten to take the Attorney out of my hands unless I can get an immediate decision. Under these circumstances I beg you will do me the favour to have it taken up. The only ob- =jection made to the admission of the claim by Mr. Edwards in a letter to Hon ble D Stearns of the date of April 2 nd 1840, has been removed by documentary evidence. D. D. A. Dison Attorney for Mrs. Moore.

Hoyasburg Ky Dec 14/838
Dr Sir
I have been making an effort for several years to get a pension allowed me but have failed. The paymaster at Washington says that it cannot be allowed unless proved by some satisfactory evidence which cannot be had at this time. Owing to the paper having been burnt at Philadelphia I think that is strange why the department has not allowed me what I think that I am justly entitled to, having the fact that others who were with me and their services proved in part by me have received their pensions. George Smith of Indiana and Michaelas Ream of Illinois both were in the service when I was and they have had their claims allowed. My papers are all in the office at Washington with sufficient vouchers. I would be much obliged to you if you draw them out of the office and present them to Congress and see if they will not do something for me. George Smith and Michaelas Ream's claims are the same of mine, stand over,

Your attention to the above will much oblige Your obedient Servant
John Groom
Pr please let me have your address as prostitute
Mr. Edwards
Kindly forward me the papers of Mr Groom mentioned in the above letter if it be consistent with the regulations of the department & inform me the title
Most respectfully
Am J. Morris
J. L. Edwards Cons. of Penury St Washington

Jan. 4. 1848 To Rev. Pessing
Graves 175 Per Pens.

OMIT State of Indiana Sullivan County ss: I Benjamin Wolfe Clerk of the Circuit Court in and for the said County of Sullivan do hereby certify that James Reid Esq. before whom the foregoing depositions were taken then was an acting Justice of the peace in said County duly commissioned and qualified and to all his official acts as such full faith and credit are due and ought to be given as well in courts of Record as elsewhere.
In testimony whereof I have hereto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Moom this 29 th day of March A.D. Eighteen hundred and thirty three.
Benjamin Wolfe Clerk S.C.C.
Warden Pope and John Shaw made oath in the Court aforesaid that they have been a long time well acquainted with the before named John Grove; that he is a man of good character, and entitled to be believed upon his oath; and that he is reported to have been in the revolutionary service of the United States.
Warden Pope
John Shaw
In Witness whereof I Warden Pope Clerk of the said Circuit have hereto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court this tenth day of April one thousand eight hundred and thirty-three, and in the forty-second year of the Commonwealth
Warden Pope

I most confidently believed that the foregoing Declaration of John Grove, had been sent on to the War Department in April 1833, and thought it not a little strange that it was not acted on. On this day I found that this paper had been mistaid by my Deputy, and now forward it. No one is more entitled to or deserving a pension than Mr Grove
Wooden Pops June 13 th 1834
State of Illinois Clark County
Personally appeared before me the Subscribed a Justice of the Peace for said County, Nicholas Bean and said oath that he was personally acquainted with the within named John Grove that he entered the service near the commencement of the war and that he served in the fifth Pennsylvania regiment and that he was some where near five years in the service and acted as Wagon Master in part in the wagon Department under General Hillehourner and Genl. Scott
And that we was in winter quarters at the White Marsh and Valley Forge and that he acted generally as Wagon- Master - that he entered the service as a Militia man under Captain Sacy and Lieutenant Drake and continued as such until he received his appointment as Wagon- Master given under my hand and seal this 6 th day of October 1834
Nicholas his Bean Free not.
I hereby certify that the Subscribed Nicholas Bean signed his Affidavit before me and was sworn to before me Almer Stank Free
I do hereby certify that the above named Nicholas Bean's Testimony is good and valid in any Court of Justice given under my hand and seal this 6 th day of October 1834
Almer Stank Free

Stay at burg 1/2 Dec 15
Free
The Warnerott W. S. Group Georgetown D.C. Washington letter J. 6.

let 2 April 1840 Hon. S. Stearns. H. Clerk W. J. R. 25 March 1833
Kentucky Suspended
let 8 July '85 - to J. C. Sprigg, Shelbyville let 31 Aug st 1835 to George H. Parker, of Ken. Present, let: 14 th Nov: 37. J. C. Sprigg. let: 10 th May 1838 Hon. W. J. Graves. let: 25 th June 1838 to applicant. let: 27 Dec 38 Hon. W. J. Graves (over)

Office House of Reps. U.S.
Dear Sir, Wm Lloyd Commissioner of Pensions

July 18, 1853. #2965.
Appl. of Margaret Ann Grove Widow of John Grove,
Jefferson co., Kentucky.
Act 3 d Feby. 1853. $480.00 Per An — Com-Febr. 3 d 1853, Rev.
M. M. Gray, Louisville, Kentucky.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, Pension Office, Official Dupl es

State of Kentucky § Jefferson County § ss.
Be it known that on the 9 th day of July 1853, before me a Notary Public in and for said County personally appeared Moses Hall, who is a respectable farmer of Jefferson County and worthy of belief - Said Hall being first duly sworn states that he knows Mrs Margaret Ann Grove widow of John Grove dec d . who now lives in Jefferson County about 1 1/2 miles of his residence. Said Margaret lives with her daughter Mary Newkirk and is very feeble and entirely blind - He knows nothing about their marriage or the death of said John Grove, but he has understood he died some years since.
Moses Hall
Sworn to and subscribed the date above before me
M. Briggs Notary Public J. 6. 53

State of Kentucky } ss. Jefferson County } ss.
The affidavit of W.R. Vance late Pension Agent at Louisville, Ky. This affiant states that he knows Margaret Ann Grove the widow of John Grove deceased. That a few days before he ceased to act as Pension Agent he made a payment to said Margaret under a grant lately made by the Pension Department to her for the services of her husband said John - He knew John Grove, but he cannot state when he died or at what time they were married - Mrs Grove is very old and blind and physically unable to appear in open court. Said Margaret still remains a widow and now resides in Jefferson County, Ky.
Sworn to and subscribed { M.R. Vance before me this 9th day } of July 1853.
M. Bridges Notary Public J. B. 12

State of Kentucky § Jefferson County §
I Curran Pope clerk of the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that Matthew Bridges is and was at the time of signing the foregoing an acting Notary Public in and for said County duly commissioned and sworn, and his foregoing signature is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the official seal of said County this 11 th day of July 1853
Curran Pope By Chas. M. Thruston D. D. Clerk

State of Kentucky } ss Jefferson County }
Personally appeared before me Barnett W Humphreys one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said State and County Martin Wood aged fifty seven years and first being duly sworn ac- cording to law In State That he has known old John Grove and his family for the space of thirty three years last past He John Grove lived my near neighbor in Shelby County Kentucky and also in Jefferson County during that acquaintance with him and his family He was always reputed and believed to of been a Soldier in the war of the revolution and that he did serve in the capacity of Wagon Master, as I have often heard him say and state that he served in the revolutionary war and in the capacity of Wagon Master And his statements about his services was generally believed to be true in the County He further state that some time after the passage of the Pension law granting pensions to Officers and Soldiers of the revolutionary war John Grove aided by his son Martin Grove got the old man's paper made out and sent to Washington claiming a pension for the old man's services in the revolutionary war for services as Wagon Master He John Grove at that date lived in Shelby County Kentucky At the time he made out his application for a pension his paper was there made in that County Some years after that he removed to Jefferson County where his widow now lives The old man did not succeed in obtaining a pension His son Martin Grove removed to Missouri and some time after his removal he came back to Kentucky and on his return to Missouri he took his aged Father John Grove home with him on a visit The old man while there died leaving him in this County my near neighbor His aged widow Margaret Ann Grove She is still living and is the identical same woman former wife of now the widow of John Grove deceased he being the same John Grove who applied for a pension when a resident of Shelby County Ken- tucky Old Margaret Ann Grove is a very old woman

and is perfectly Blind and entirely poor Sworn to and Subscribed — this 6 th day of December 1852 } Martin Wood
State of Kentucky } ss Jefferson County }
I do hereby certify the foregoing deposition of Martin Wood was this day Subscribed and I swear to before me And I further certify the affi- davit Martin Wood is a man of Unblemished Character — a worthy good citizen and is entitled to full Credit
Given under my hand this 6 th day of December 1852
B. H. Humphreys J.P.C.
State of Kentucky } ss Jefferson County }
Personnelly appeared before me Barnett W. Humphreys one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said State and County. Elijah Bradham Aged fiftyseven years and first being duly sworn according to law he states that he has been well acquainted with old John Grove and his family for the space of more than thirty years last past having lived his near neighbor that length of time first in Shelby County Kentucky and last in this Jefferson County. The old man was always always reputed and believed to of served in the revolu- tionary war and in the character of Wagon Master, I have often heard him state that he served as Wagon Master and his statements were generally believed to be true in the County when he lived. He further states that some time after the passage of the act of Congress Granting Pensions to old Revolutionary Soldiers, John Grove Appear by his son Martin Grove got the old man's papers made out and sent to Washington claiming a pension for the old man's services as Wagon Master in the revolutionary war. John Grove at that time lived in Shelby County Kentucky at the time he made his application for a pension. Some years after that he removed to Jefferson County Kentucky where

His widow Margaret Ann Grove is still living The old man did not succeed in obtaining a pension His son Martin Grove removed to Missouri and some time after his removal he came back to Kentucky and on his return to Missouri he took his old aged Father John Grove home with him on a visit the old man while there died leaving here in this County my near Neighbor His aged Widow, Margaret Ann Grove who is still living and is the same woman former wife of now the widow of John Grove deceased the same John Grove who did make his application for a pension from Shelby County Kentucky for services as Wagon Master in the revolutionary war His Widow Margaret Ann Grove is at very old and infirm woman and is perfectly Blind and is very poor  Sworn to and subscribed to { Eliza Branham this 7 th day of December, 1852 }
State of Kentucky } ss Jefferson County }
I do hereby certify the foregoing deposition of Elijah Brown was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further certify the affiant, Elijah Brown is a highly respectable man and is a worthy good Citizen of this County and is entitled to full credit Given under my hand this 7 th day of December, 1852 B H Humphreys J.P. & C
State of Kentucky } ss Jefferson County }
Personally appeared before me one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said State and County Lorenzo Wright aged fortyfive years and first being duly sworn according to Law He states that he became acquainted with Old John Grove and his family twenty five years ago time past that he lived his near neighbor that length of time He was a very old man he often talked of his services in the war of the revolution and always claimed to of served as wagon Master and it was generally believed in the County

Where he lived that he did serve in that capacity as wagon master When he was living in Shelby County Kentucky He made out his papers and sent to the pension office at Washington City to obtain a pension but did not obtain any pay his claim was not allowed The old man removed into this County Jefferson and resided here a number of years up to the time that his son Martin Grove took him home with him on a visit to Missouri where his son had removed to and now resides The old man John Grove remained with his son in Missouri until he died the date of his death I cannot say but can say he is the I anticipate same John Grove who made his application for a pension when living in Shelby County Kentucky for his services as wagon master in the revolutionary war His widow Margaret Ann Grove still lives within one mile of me she is a very old woman I would suppose she is from ninety to one hundred years old And she is the I anticipate same woman late the wife of And now the widow of John Grove deceased She is now living and is entirely blind and very poor  Sworn to and subscribed to { Lorenzo Wright this 7 th day of December, 1852 }  State of Kentucky { ss Jefferson County }
I do hereby certify the foregoing deposition of Lorenzo Wright was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further certify the deponent Lorenzo Wright is a man of respectability and in good standing in society a citizen of this county and is entitled to full credit - Given under my hand this 7 th day of December 1852 -  B. W. Humphreys J. P. J. C
State of Kentucky { ss Jefferson County }  Personally appeared before me Barnett W. Humphreys one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for said State and County Frankfort Court who is now in the fiftieth year of his age and first being duly sworn

Sworn according to Law The Story that he became acquainted with old John Grove and family, late of this County formerly of Shelby County Kentucky previous to the year 1824 and were the old Man and his wife Margarett Ann Grove up to the time his son Martin Grove took his Mother home with him to Missouri they having lived less than a mile from me where the old Woman Margarett Ann Grove is now living Old John Grove was a Very old Man I would believe him to be of near or ninety years of age when he left Kentucky He was always reputed and believed to be a Soldier in the revolutionary war and when he resided in Shelby County Kentucky he made out his papers and but on claiming a pension for his services as having served in that war He failed to obtain a pension and was taken to Missouri by his son Martin Grove where he died His Widow Margarett Ann Grove who is a very old woman and entirely blind is still living in the same house less than one mile from me And is the Identical same Woman formerly the wife of and now the Widow of John Grove deceased meaning the same old John Grove who did apply for a pension
Francis Conner
Sworn to and subscribed to this 8 th day of December 1852 } State of Kentucky } ss Jefferson County }
I do hereby certify the foregoing deposition of Francis Conner was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further certify the deponent Francis Conner is a highly respectable man and his statements are entitled to full credit Given under my hand this 8 th day of December 1852
B W Humphreys J.P.C
State of Kentucky Jefferson County ss
Francis Conner
Clerk of the County Court of the County aforesaid do certify that B. W. Humphreys who has signed the

Certificate is that at the date thereof, we acting Justices of the Peace in & for said County duly Commissioned & sworn & that his signature thereto is genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed my Seal of office this 8 th day of December 1852 Curran Pke

John Grove, decd. Act 32 Ag.
D. D. Addison Present

Rev EXPLANATION.—The following Form can be used by Prothonotaries, Surrogates, Registers of Probate, and other Officers, for certificates in the cases of deceased Applicants for Revolutionary Pension; and for Deceased Pensioners , where Arrears or Increase may be claimed. In either case, the precise date of death must be plainly stated, with the names of all the children who were alive when the party died ; and if any have since died , it must be stated, with the names of the children they left. Where there are but few children, and they all live near each other, there need not be an Administrator.
If for a deceased Pensioner, the Grade, Rate, and Law under which pensioned should be stated; and in Widows' cases the name and Grade of the Husband should also be stated.
Certificate of Death and Heirship.
STATE OF Kentucky } ss: COUNTY OF Jefferson }
It is hereby certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, clerk of the County Court in and for the County aforesaid, that Margaret Ann Grew wife late of wife of John Grew in said County, who was is now living & a resident of said County died in said County, on the _____ day of _____ in the year one thousand eight hundred and _____ leaving surviving the following named children only, viz: _____ _____ _____
and that the above named
are the only children of the said
who are now living.
I further certify, that of the estate of the said
_____ of has been duly appointed and qualified as Administrator deceased.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my Seal of Office, this eighth day of December one thousand eight hundred and fifty two .
Curran Pope

State of Kentucky } ss. Jefferson County }
The affidavit of Lorenzo Wright made before the undersigned, Notary Public, in and for said County, this 7 th day of July 1853. This affiant who is a man of veracity and worthy of belief states that he is now forty four years old and has known Mary Ann Groove widow of John Groove du o for more than twenty years that she now lives in the Eastern part of Jefferson County, Ky, and is entirely blind and very full unable to go to Louisville; she still remains a widow and is the same person who has lately drawn some money for the services of her husband under the act of 7 th June 1832. He also states that he knew her husband John Groove who died eight or ten years since - He has frequently heard from said Groove that he had been a Wagon conductor during the Revolutionary war, and the neighbors of said Groove always looked upon him as a Revolutionary Soldier - He does not know when they were married, but they lived together as husband and wife -
Sworn to and subscribed to the date above before me. } Lorenzo Wright
Hamilton Pope.
Notary Public for Jefferson County, Kentucky

State of Kentucky ss. Jefferson County 3
I Curran Pope clerk of the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that J W Sawtell and Hamilton Pope are and were at the time of signing the same acting Notary Public in and for said County duly commissioned and sworn and the foregoing signatures purporting to be theirs are genuine,
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and official seal this 9 th day of July A.D. 1853
Curran Pope Clerk By Chas M. Shuckon. Dr OO

Jefferson County S.S. State of Kentucky 3
The affidavit of Dr Robert Miller made this 6 th day of June 1853 before me a Notary Public in and for said County. This affiant states that he knew John Grove who died some years since, and he also is well acquainted with his widow Margaret Ann Grove who now lives in Jefferson County Kentucky; He was for some time their family Physician & has known them well for many years - Said Margaret Ann Grove still remains a widow and is very feeble and entirely blind - He does not believe she is able to go to Louisville the County Seat of Jefferson County and appear in open Court - He does not know at what precise time they were married, but they lived together as husband & wife - Said Margaret Ann Grove is the identical person who has lately drawn a pension on account of her husband's services in the Revolutionary War.
Sworn to and subscribed before me the date above by Robert Miller Robert Miller who is a man of high standing and worthy of belief - J. W. Sawtelle, Notary Public

L. P. Waldo, Esq. Comm r of Pensions Washington City D. C.

Louisville July 14 th 1853
L. P. Waldo, Esq. Commissioner of Pensions
I send you the declaration of Mrs Margaret Ann Groves for pension under the law of 3 rd February 1853, also, the proof in the case - When granted please send me the certificate, to this City, by mail.
Your Obedient Servant W. M. Gray. Atty for Mrs Groves

State of Kentucky ss. Jefferson County } 3
Be it known that on the 7 th day of July 1853, before me a justice of the peace in and for said County personally appeared Jacob Newkirk, a farmer of Jefferson County a man well known to me and worthy of belief, and made oath that he has known Margaret Ann Groves, the widow of John Groves dec d , from his childhood - That said John Groves died some eight or ten years since and Margaret Ann Groves still remains a widow - They were married about the year 1819 - Mrs Groves is blind and now lives in the upper end of Jefferson County -
Sworn to and subscribed to the date above before me } Jacob Newkirk Robt Miller J.P. }
State of Kentucky ss. Jefferson County } 3
I Curran Pope clerk of the County and state aforesaid do hereby certify that Robert Miller is and was at the time of signing the foregoing an acting justice of the peace duly commissioned and sworn and his signature above is genuine -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and official seal this 14 th day of July 1853.
Curran Pope Clerk By Thomas A. Morgan S.C.

John Moore (Secy) Acad. Ky.
D. D. Addison Present

State of Missouri County of Monroe } Set
I W. N. Penn Clerk of the County Court within and for the County and State aforesaid do certify that John W. Dawson whose name appears to the foregoing affidavits is and was at the time of signing the same an acting Justice of the peace for said County of Monroe duly Commissioned and sworn and that the foregoing signatures purporting to be his is genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court at Office in Paris this 26th day of November A.D. 1852
W. N. Penn Clerk

EXPLANATION.—The following Form can be used by Prothonotaries, Surrogates, Registers of Probate, and other Officers, for certificates in the cases of deceased Applicants for Revolutionary Pension; and for Deceased Pensioners , where Arrears or Increase may be claimed. In either case, the precise date of death must be plainly stated, with the names of all the children who were alive when the party died ; and if any have since died , it must be stated, with the names of the children they left. Where there are but few children, and they all live near each other, there need not be an Administrator.
If for a deceased Pensioner, the Grade, Rate, and Law under which pensioned should be stated; and in Widows' cases the name and Grade of the Husband should also be stated.
Certificate of Death and Heirship.
STATE OF Missouri COUNTY OF Monroe } ss:
It is hereby certified, that satisfactory evidence has been exhibited before me, W. N. Penn Clerk of the County court in and for the County aforesaid, that John Grove late of the State of Missouri in said County, who was an applicant for a Pension under the act of June the 7th 1832 for services as Wagon master died in said County, on the Eleventh day of December in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty three leaving surviving the following named children only, viz:
and that the above named
are the only children of the said
who are now living.
I further certify, that of the estate of the said
of
has been duly appointed and qualified as Administrator deceased.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed my Seal of Office, this 26th day of November one thousand eight hundred and fifty two .
W. N. Penn Clerk

Emat June 23 Hen.
True
J. L. Edwards Pension Office Washington City D. C.
To

Hoyleburg Ky June 16 th 1888
Sir
I received your note through our Repre- sentative Mr. W. S. Groves in forming of me that the papers Relative to my claim for a pension has been filed in the your department and further proof is required in order to get it allowed of which you informed Mr. J. G. Sprigg of Shelbyville Ky. in November last, Mr. Sprigg has failed to give any satisfaction about the matter in any way, and I have determined to attend to the matter myself. You will please to let me know what is required to be proven in order to get it allowed as soon as practicable as I have of late ascertained that I can prove my services by 3 Witness men.
Your attention to the above will much oblige
Yours & B.S.
John Groves

13.558 John Gown Kentucky
To the Honorable
FREE
J. R. Poinsett Secretary War Washington City
Nov 13. 1837 Pension Office Ken.
51002.
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3
S1002.
Nov 13. 1837
Pension Office
Ken.
To the Knolls
John Brown Kentucky
13.558

Shelbyville Nov. 1837
Dr Sir
Mr John Grove who is an applicant for a pension and whose claim is suspended for further proof desires me to request a return of his papers filed in the Pension Office. His wish is further to prosecute his claim, and he thinks he cannot do it so well, as his rights would justify, without having the use of his papers. He is an ignorant man but a very honest one, and I have no doubt is as much entitled to have his claim allowed as any man who ever preferred one against the Government. But the Department of War having adopted certain rules of evidence in his case, which are doubtless established with a very prudent forecast and upon high public considerations, he I fear is now too despatched to supply the deficiency in his testimony.
Yours &c.
James B. Griffith

2320. Kentucky Margaret Ann Grove widow of John who served in the Revolutionary war, as a Wag n Conv. n
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 480 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 3d February, 1853.
Certificate of Pension issued the 6 day of Oct. 1853 and sent to W. W. Gray Louisville Ky
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 3, 1853, Page 174 Vol. 2 Edw.

State of Missouri } ss Monroe County } ss
Personally appeared before me John W Dawson one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said State and County Elisha Baker who is now fifty two years of age and first being duly sworn according to law he states that he resides in the State of Missouri Monroe County and a near neighbor to Martin Grove the son of Old Mr. John Grove deceased Old Mr. John Grove had not been in this country but a few months until he took sick and died and at his death his son Martin Grove called on me to make his coffin which I did and on referring to my Book of Entries in which I made my charges for work done I find the charge made in the following words
Martin Grove Dr. to Elisha Baker
December 12 th 1843 To Making Coffin for Father — $8.00
He states Martin Grove called and paid him the above Bill for making his Father's coffin The old man was buried on his son's farm he was a very old and infirm man
Sworn to and subscribed to This 25 day of November 1852 }
Elisha Baker
State of Missouri } ss Monroe County } ss
I do hereby certify the foregoing deposition of Elisha Baker was this day sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further certify the deponent Elisha Baker is a worthy pious and exemplary man of unblemished character and is entitled to credit
Given under my hand this 25 day of November 1852
J. W. Dawson Justice

State of Missouri } ss Monroe County } 2
Personally appeared before me John W. Seawson one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said State and County Martin Grove who is now in his Sixtyfirst year of his age and first being duly sworn according to Law, he States, He is the Son of John Grove Deceased late a resident of Shelby County and State of Kentucky He States his Father John Grove was a resident of Shelby County Kentucky for many years and there remained until a few months before he died I had removed from Kentucky to this State and County where I now live and on my going back to Kentucky on a visit and on business I found my aged Father earnestly disposed to visit and go with me to my home in Missouri I brought my aged Father John Grove home with me to Missouri and after living with me some months he took sick and died in my house he died on the Eleventh day of December 1813 He further States, that his Father John Grove soon after the act of Congress granting pensions to officers and soldiers of the war of the revolution and when living in Shelby County Kentucky made out his Declaration and Vouchers to and sent them to Washington to obtain a pension for his services in the capacity of Wagon Master and in which capacity of Wagon Master he claimed to of served near the whole of revolutionary war In this appointment State I gave personal attention in aid with my now deceased Father in preparing his papers to obtain his pension but his claim was never allowed or paid He is the identical same John Grove that died at my house that that died live in Shelby County Kentucky and there made out and forwarded his Declaration and Vouchers to obtain a pension My Father John Grove died in his Ninetyfourth year of his age and if now living would be upwards of One hundred and ten years old
Martin Grove
Sworn to and Subscribed to this 26 th day of November 1852
State of Missouri } ss Monroe County } I do hereby certify the foregoing

3 Foregoing deposition of Martin Grove was this day Sworn to and Subscribed to before me and I further Certify the deponent Martin Grove is a man of unblemished good Character a Pious and exemplary man and is entitled to Credit Given under my hand this 26 th day of November 1852 J. P. Dawson J.P.
State of Missouri Monroe County } ss Personally appeared before me John W. Dawson One of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said State and County David B Enochs who is now in his fiftieth year of age And first being duly sworn according to Law he states that he Formerly resided in the State of Kentucky and near Neighbor to the Mr. John Grove a very old man who was reputed and believed to of served in the war of the revolution He had made out and sent his pension to the city of Washington Claiming a pension for services as Wagon Master in revolutionary war, he then lived in Shelby County Kentu- cky where I knew him many years Old John Grove the identi- tical same man some time since and when very old was Brought to this County by his Son Martin Grove and resided in his family and with him until he died I knew him well in Kentucky and in this State and County and know him to be the same John Grove who applied for a pension in the capacity of Wagon Master he was very old and inform I visited his Son Martin Grove at the time of his death and was at his Burial on his Dear Farm Sworn to and Subscribed to { David B Enochs This 26 th day of November 1852 }
State of Missouri Monroe County } ss
I do hereby Certify the foregoing deposition of David B Enochs was this day taken sworn to and Subscribed to before me And I further Certify the deponent David B Enochs is a highly respectable worthy good Citizen of this County and is entitled to full Credit J. P. Dawson J.P.

State of Missouri } Monroe County }
Personally appeared before me John W Dawson one of the acting Justices of the Peace in and for Said State and County James B Swindell who is now forty six years of age and first being duly sworn according to Law the State that he formerly resided in the State of Kentucky and resided for many years a Near Neighbor to Old Mr John Grove in Shelby County and was intimately and well acquainted with Old John Grove for many years the old man was always believed to of been a Soldier in the war of the revolution He made out his claim to obtain a pension while he lived in Shelby County Kentucky for his services as Wagon Master but did not get any pay Some considerable time since Martin Grove Son of old John Grove who now lives my near neighbor went to Kentucky and brought his Father Old John Grove home with him to this State and County after some considerable time the old man John Grove took sick and died at the house of his son Martin Grove I was at Burial He is the identical same John Grove who made his application in Shelby County Kentucky for a pension in the
J. B. Swindell
Sworn to and subscribed to This 21 st day of November 1852
State of Missouri } Monroe County }
I do hereby certify the foregoing deposition of James B Swindell was this day taken sworn to and subscribed to before me And I further certify the Deponent is a man of high and respectable standing and a resident of this County and is entitled to Credit
J. W. Dawson J.P.
State of

To affixid my seal of office and subscribed my name this 30. day of October A.D. 1834
Jacob Harlan Clk. Pr. Harlan, Sfy. etc.

Shelby County State of Kentucky Martin Grove this 8 th day of June personally appeared before me Wm S. Helms a Justice of the Peace in and for said County and made Oath in due form of law that he well knows John Grove who made his Declaration before the Jefferson Circuit Court, and on this day before the Shelby County Court, upon an application for a pension under the Act of Congress of June the 7 th 1832. That he is the son of said John Grove, and that he has seen in the possession of his said father, what purported to be a Commission from the United States to said John Grove his father, of some office in the Army, which he the Deponent always understood was a Captain Commission. That when he last saw it, a part only of the paper was remaining, with the seal annexed. That the seal was a large seal with letters and figures inscribed on each side I think, on one side I know that either the words "Continental" or "U.S." were on it. and always understood from his infancy that his said father had served in the Revolutionary War, as Captain of a Brigade

of Waggons in the Army of the Revolution on Continental establishment. And further this deponent saith not. sworn to before me Stearns Grove
a Justice of the Peace in and for Shelby County
Kentucky Apr 8. 1835 H. H. H.
State of Kentucky
Shelby County ss
I J. S. Whitaker clerk of the County Court for said County do Certify that William Solomon England before whom the foregoing affidavit was made and who hath subscribed his name to the Certificate thereof now is, and was at the time of doing the same one of the Justices of the Peace for said County Commissioned and qualified according to Law and that full faith and credit is and ought to be given to all his Official acts as such In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto subscribed
my hand and affixed the seal of said County
this 10th day of June 1835
J. S. Whitaker clerk Shelby County Court