Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 3472, Paul Fay, Mass

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass
Ray, Paul
R. 3472
CONTENTS

To be returned to H. Boston Jr Cicero N.Y.
Spal 28/10/13 Jan 1894

State of New York } County of Onondaga } p
On this 9 th day of October 1833, personally appeared in open Court before the Circuit Court of the Second Circuit in the said State. Now sitting, Paul Gay a resident of Cicero in the County of Onondaga & State of New York aged seventy eight years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers & served as herein stated
That he enlisted first for one year in the Massachusetts State Troops in the fore part of the month of May in the year 1776. The company into which he enlisted was commanded by Daniel Warner Captain, Ebenezer Childs Lieut, Ensigns names not recollected. It was attached to a Regiment commanded by Col. Marshall. The Majors name was Lyman, & if his recollection is correct the Brigade was commanded by Gen. Glover
He enlisted in the town of Hardwick, Worcester County Massachusetts State, where he then resided. In about a week after he enlisted, he was drafted out of the company to take the charge of a team engaged in transporting war stores principally between Hardwick, Springfield & Boston. Went one tour from Boston to Bennington Vt, with a load of Pork. Colonel Abiel Rine commanded the teams. Supposes he was selected to this service on account of having had the reputation of being a good teamster. He spent the whole period of his enlistment in this service, & received a written discharge at Springfield, signed by Major Lyman. The discharge has been lost. He supposes it was burned up in a Coal Cabin.
Through a mistake (as he supposes in consequence of his having been drafted out of the company to drive a team) his name was not returned in the pay roll of the company & he never received any pay for this years service except twenty dollars which Col. Rine gave him. That he ought to have received seven dollars per month. The above service was rendered under the above enlistment

Secondly That he enlisted for Six Months in the fore part of December 1778. The Company officers were David Lyman of Belchertown Captain, — Smith of South Hadley Lieut. & Samuel Warner of the same place Ensign. The place where he enlisted & where he resided at this time was Belchertown, at that time in the County of Berkshire, but believes it is now Springfield Co. Mass. State. Marched first to Danbury Ct. Staid there about six weeks to guard the Military stores, from there they marched to Pekskeill on the N. River, from there to Dobb's Ferry & Staid there several weeks to guard the Military stores & keep observation. From there marched back to Pekskeill & staid about a week. From there marched to West Point, where they staid considerable time, on fatigue building forts &c. & upon the arrival of more public property at Pekskeill they were ordered back there where he staid out the full term of six months. He did not receive any written discharge at this time. During this enlistment he was not attached to any Regiment. Generals McDougal & Spencer had the command at West Point while he was there.
Thirdly That he was drafted on the first day of Dec. 1779 for three (3) months in the town of Hardwick, Wooster Co. Mass. where he then resided. The Company to which he belonged was commanded by Lucius or Silas Stone (don't recollect which), Nathan Billings was the first Lieut & Comfort Knowlton the 2 d Lieut. The Company was attached to a Regiment commanded by Col. John Sparrowhawk & Major Charles Hovey. Gen Jon a Warner commanded the Brigade. They marched from Hardwick to Danbury Ct. from there to Pekskeill, & from there to Morristown N.J. where they staid a few days & then marched to Boundbrook near New Brunswick where they staid till the three months were fully expired. At this time the British were lying at Brunswick & the week after they were discharged they went to & burnt the village where they had been lying. He further states that he was born at Hardwick Wooster Co. Mass. Dec 30 th 1755. That he supposes there is a record of his age in

the town clerks office at Hardwick, That he has lived since the Revolution in Kingsbury Washington Co - & Onondaga & Cicero Onondaga Co - N.Y. & that he now lives in Cicero N.Y. That he has no documentary evidence, & that he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service, but that he is known to Josiah J. Lowell & Thomass  Lebbeus Hakes who reside in his present neighborhood & who can testify to his charac- ter for veracity & their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, & declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the Agency of any State Paul J. Fay "Lebbeus Hakes" is entitled before execution } mark
Sworn & subscribed to the day & year aforesaid Daniel Moseley Circuit Judge
We Josiah J. Lowell a clergyman residing in the town of Cicero and Thomass Smith  Lebbeus Hakes residing in the same place hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with Paul Fay who has subscribed & sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy eight years of age, that he is repu- ted & believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, & that we concur in that opinion
"Lebbeus Hakes" is entitled before execution Sworn & subscribed
Josiah J. Lowell
the year & day aforesaid
Lebbeus Hakes
Daniel Moseley Circuit Judge
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter & after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier & served as he states. And the court further certifies that it appears to them that Josiah J. Lowell who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the town of Cicero & that Lebbeus Hakes who has also signed the same is a resident in the same place & is a creditable per

= Son & this statement is entitled to credit
Daniel Mosley Circuit Judge
I. Reuben S. Hefl Clerk of the Court of Onondaga County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the ori- ginal proceedings of the said Court. in the matter of the application of Paul Lay for a pension In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 10 th day of October 1833 R. S. Hefl Clerk

28.178
Paul Fay
Ref to E.D. Bump
Nov 19. 33
H. Joslin Cicero New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Nov. 19 33
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Paul Fay
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1776 May 1 10 10 Private  Bangor Col Marshall Capt Childs 78 Yours   1778 Dec 6 Private " Smith Wadsworth   1779 " 3 " " Stone Col Spurr or Hawth Sites  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of } On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this _____ day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his
In the office of the Secretary of the State of Massachusetts, an of the Continental Troops up to Nov 1776 and of the State Troops Secretary of that State, proof of the service in question may be

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom? 
5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.
 6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it?  { To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , in the militia, &c. without specifying the hours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
rolls in America during the war, by applying to E. D. Bangs obtained

J. E. Hassler Esq. Washington D.C.
Please state under what act pensioned, or when pension commenced, if a pensioner—and amount of pension.

Power of attorney for Cravings
Revolutionary Papers case of Paul Gay New York
Sep 14 - 1852
E. E. Haskin Overseer

POWER OF ATTORNEY
For ascertaining whether any increase or arrears of Pension are due the Widow or heirs of Revolutionary Pensioners, &c.*
STATE OF New York COUNTY OF Onondaga
Be it known that before me
Silvester Ball a justice of the Peace personally appeared Barnabas Fray aged 61 years, who being duly cautioned and then sworn in due form of law, states that he is the son of Paul Fray who was a revolutionary† soldier in the State of Massachusetts and that he died on the 3 rd day of January 1840 and that his mother, named Sarah died on the 12 th day of Nov 1836 and that they were married on the day of in the year 17 and that they were residents of Kingston in the State of New York and that they resided there about 18 years, and that he resides in Green Onondaga Co NY and that furthermore BY THESE PRESENTS, constitutes, appoints, and fully empowers and authorizes, irrevocably and with powers of substitution, F. E. HASSLER, of Washington city, D. C., as his true and lawful Attorney for him and in his name and stead, to examine into, to prosecute, to demand, and to receive from the U. S. Government and State officers his rights in all and in any manner of claim for increase or arrears of Pension or Land that may be due him as heir of Paul Fray who died leaving the same undrawn, as in right of law he may be entitled.
In witness whereof, he has on this 27 th day August 1852, hereunto signed his name, and affixed his seal.
Barnabas Fray
Witness: Juan Wickey Witness: Sterling Daniels
Signed, sealed, acknowledged, and sworn to before me; and I further certify, that Barnabas Fray has always by the community been known as the son of Paul Fray
Dated on this 27 th day of August 1852
Silvester Ball J. P.
State of New York COUNTY OF Onondaga } to wit:
I hereby certify, That Silvester Ball Esq., before whom the foregoing affidavits and acknowledgment were made, and who has thereunto subscribed his name, was at the time of so doing, a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn, and that his signature above written is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and affixed the seal of Onondaga County Court, this 19 th day of September one thousand eight hundred and fifty two
Rufus Lofbit Clerk.
* If a Widow applies, state "the date of marriage, and date of death of her husband." † State under what act pensioned, or when pension commenced, if a pensioner—and amount of pension.

Letter from Messrs Homer & White to H. Joslin
2000 H. Joslin

Boston Feby 18 th 1834
Sir, We have examined time and again in hopes we should find some evidence of the services of Paul Fay in the Revolutionary War. But thus far have been unsuccessful. The rolls of Capt Daniel Warner's Company is found but as you thought his name is not borne on them — If you mark it, we will send you what is termed a Blank Certificate. which may be of some service to him. We hope you will excuse our not answering yours before as we have delayed it in hopes that by so doing we should be able to with more satisfaction to you and ourselves.
Yours Respectfully Ebenezer Dyer
Henry White

[Handwritten monogram: HJ]
H. Joslin Esq Cicero — Onondaga County New York

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
SECRETARY'S OFFICE,
December 32 1883.
SIR,
I HAVE received your letter requesting me to examine the rolls in this office for evidence of the services of
Paul Fay
in the Revolutionary War. Thousands of similar applications have been made; and they are daily presented in such numbers, that it is impossible for me or my clerks personally to attend to them, without neglecting the usual business of the office. I therefore found it necessary to establish a rule (of which public notice was given) requiring that examinations should be made by the applicants themselves, or their friends or agents. They are allowed free access to the rolls and records, and every facility in my power to afford. If they discover any evidence of the services claimed, they are furnished with blanks for the purpose of preparing certificates for my signature. These certificates are compared by me or one of the clerks with the rolls pointed out to us, and, if true, they are signed by me. This is cheerfully done without any charge. Nothing has ever been asked or received for these services by any one connected with the office. I believe this is all that can be reasonably required of me; and all that can be done without neglecting my incumbent duties.
There are two gentlemen (Messrs. HOMER and WHITE) who, for some time past have been constantly employed in assisting the old soldiers, and who expect a trifling remuneration for their trouble in making the search and preparing the necessary certificate. As, for the reasons already stated, I cannot myself attend to the case stated by you, I shall place it in the hands of these gentlemen for investigation, and request them to communicate to you the result.
The rolls in this office, though numerous, are very defective, irregular, and incomplete, a fact of which the War Department at Washington is well informed. It is therefore always uncertain whether the services claimed, although they may have been faithfully rendered, can be proved by our records. In a majority of cases, a part only of the service can be shown from the existing rolls. Whatever evidence can be discovered, will be furnished to you at a small charge by the gentlemen whom I have mentioned.
I am, respectfully, your obedient servant,
Edward D. Bangs Secy
H. Joslin Esq.

Cairo N.Y. Feb 28 th Mar
Gen. H. H. L. P.M.
L. L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.
Mr. [unclear] - Mar 6.

My Fab. Fay - susp.
J. P. Edwards Esq. Comptroller General Washington D.C.
Mrs. H. H. Hark P.M.
Green-N.Y. Mar. 28th

Sir
Cicero N.Y. Feb 28 th 1835
Yours of the 9 th inst is rec d & in reply Mr Fay wishes me to say he knows of no person now living either in Massachusetts or else where by whom he can prove his Revolutionary services except the witness whose affidavit has been already forwarded. He says that within a few years past several persons have deceased by whom if now alive he could prove each term of his service. That he has now offered the best evidence in his power & if his pension is withheld he must consider himself unjustly & partially dealt with — He says he has spent one year & nine months of the best of his life in the service of his country, & for one year of that time in consequence of the negligence of his officer he did not receive one cent compensation from government which he ought to have rec d — That he is informed pensions have been repeatedly granted upon no better proof than he has offered, & if he is denied one for the want of better proof he must consider it partial and unfair
I know of his having been at much trouble by writing & otherwise to ascertain if any person now living could be found who was knowing to his services
I am instructed to say you can now make your final decision in his case. The old gentleman says he does not think the charity of the people among whom he

resides will leave him to starve in his old age & infirmities. though the government of that country for which he has fought, should conclude to do so
Yours Respectfully H. Soslun
J. L. Edwards Esq. Com te Pensions

The objection to a pension in the case of Paul Hay & a copy of his declaration is respectfully asked for, the authority for asking it is attached, he applied under law of 1832 from New York
Hon. S. P. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions
Sir
I have appointed Isaac Levy of Orisk New York agent to act in all things for Paul Hay in procuring or investigating his, now my ————— claim to a pension.
Dated May
1836.
Barnabas Fay
Paul Hay was of New York, applied from N. York

New York Sept 30
Free
Commissioner of Pensions. Pension Office Washington City

Albany N. Y. Sept. 30 th - 1834.
Inclosed is Benjamin Bands. Declaration for a pension. all communications relative to said matter will be had with me -
Yours &c E. H. Putnam -

Jan 12 Am. 3 rd 1835
Cairo Ky.
free
Paul W. May
J. S. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.

Cones N.Y. Jan 3 d 1835
Sir. Paul Fay is unable to furnish any more proof of his Revolutionary services. The old gentleman feels as though it was hard for him to lose all remuneration for the years' services but confidently expects there will be no objection to his receiving a pension for the remaining Nine Months — The statement of Mr Fark that the twelve months service was rendered in 1775 was a mistake. This was observed before the affidavit was forwarded, but was not deemed essential.
J. S. Edwards Esq.
Respectfully Yours H. Joslin

J. Edwards Esq. Comm ee Pensions Washington

1834 Cincinatti, Nov 28 th
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Sir,
I forward you another Certificate to prove Paul Jay's Claim to a pension together with the certificate of the Secretary of Mass. You stated it would be necessary to obtain the testimony of two credible witnesses to substantiate his claim to a pension for the years service. The old gentleman is unable to find any other one living who was knowing to the service, than the one whose certificate is herewith forwarded.
It is well known that the records in Mass are very defective, so much so that the Secretary says "the want of proof from the records is no evidence that the service was not rendered, a fact well known to the department."
Under such circumstances can not Mr Jay's claim for the year be allowed, upon his own oath, together with that of the one witness? If it would be of any use, one hundred Certificates at least of as respectable men as any we have in the County might be obtained to prove Mr Jay perfect credibility. I presume not one person who knows him would for a moment doubt the perfect correctness of his statement relative to any part of his service.
I have no interest in the matter, my services in this case are rendered gratuitously. I consider Mr Jay one of the most deserving of the applicants for a pension under the law of June 7. 1832 & should be glad to see justice done him if it can be without too great a violation the rules laid down by the department. I would refer you to the Hon W m Taylor M.C. from this dist. but am not certain he knows Mr Jay.
Yours &c
A. Joslin
J. L. Edwards Esq.

Seneca County ss
Personally came before me the undersigned one of the justices of the peace of Lodi in said County Salmon Tracy well known to me and after being Duly sworn upon the Holy Bible Deposeth and saith that he is acquainted with Paul Gray now of Seneca in the County of Seneca  Seneca formerly of Sandwich in Massachusetts where this Deponent knew him and there he Enlisted in Capt Daniel Worner's Company for one year that was in the year Seventeen hundred and Seventy five Sum time in the forepart of the Spring then was Detached by Colonel Rye to Drive one of the State  Wagons and that he served the year out then he Enlisted for three Months and went to the White Plains Do not know whose Company was  was for three Months and after he returned he Enlisted in the year Seventeen hundred and Seventy eight as he believes but whose Company he has forgot he then Enlisted the last time in the Town of Belcher and this Deponent knew him thru the whole of the Revolution and further this Deponent saith not subscribed and sworn to before me at Lodi the 16th Day of October 1834
Salmon Darr
Charles Kelly J P
I have been acquainted with the above named Salmon for a number of years  Tracy and believe him to be a Man of Veracity
Charles Kelly J P
State of New York
Seneca County ss
I Seba Murphy Clerk of the County of Seneca do hereby certify that Charles Kelly Esq before whom the foregoing Affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the time thereof a justice of the Peace in and for the County of Seneca

duly Commissioned and qualified as the Law Directs, and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Charles Kelly and will believe his signature subscribed to the said affidavit is genuine. Witness my hand and seal of office at Oxford October 21. 1834.
Isaac Murphy Esq

Sept 25 th 1852
Revolutionary
Paul Gay
Suspended
New York
Heber
Sep 25/52
filed 24 Sept 1852
J E Hassler Attorney

Washington City D.C.
Septm 25 1852
Honorable J. E. Heath
Commissioner of Pensions
Sir
By virtue of a Power of Attorney on file in your office, I respectfully request that a Reexamination of the Revolutionary Pension claim of Paul Fay, may be made referance had to the Revolutionary Papers of Salmon Farr

and Major Lyman's of Mass Pension list, as well as his rolls as it appears that Fay, was discharged by him at Springfield at that his rolls should show that fact. It also appears from the affidavit of Farr that Fay was detached, & that Fay served one year. Hoping that the Department give a favora- ble decision and cause a certifi- cate of Pension to issue

I am respectfully, F. C. Hassler

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
34/20 am
P. O. _____
Paulo Fay
Service: _____
REFLECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contra
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

New York Paul Gay Paul Gay Revoy.
Suspended
be let to H. Joslin Esq. Apr. 9 '34 let to same 9 Oct '35 let to same 26 March Hon. R. Wheaton Jan 12. 45
3472
Act 7 June '32

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Sir,
House of Reps.
Washington June 3/42
Will you furnish me a reply to the enclosed paper as soon as consistent with O.B. & G.
Yours & H. Wheaton

The Commissioner of Pensions will perceive by referring to Mr Fays declaration that the Capt. under whom he first enlisted was Daniel Warner instead of Ebenezer Childs , who was the Lieutenant
Also in the second term of service the captains name was Daniel Lyman instead of — Smith as stated in his letter accompanying the return papers

Nov 29. free
War Department
addl proof of Paul May N.Y.
Ed Edwards Esq
Commission of Review
Washington D.C.

Ms
H. Joslin Esq. P.M. Cicero Onondaga County N.Y.

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Secretary's Office, June 5 th 1834.
I hereby Certify, That, from an examination of the Books and Documents, relating to Military Services in the War of the Revolution, which remain in this Department, it appears that the Muster Rolls of the first Company, Stationed at Gloucester, for the defence of the Sea Coast, commanded by Daniel Warner, are found in this Office, from Jan y . 10 th to December 31 st 1776. Paul Fay claims for services, as having enlisted under Capt. Daniel Warner, in Col. Marshall's Regt. in 1776, being drafted to take charge of a Team, under the command of Col. Ashbel Rice. His name is not borne on the above-mentioned rolls. Paul Fay claims for services under Capt. David Lyman, from Decem r . 1778, and under Capt. Silas or Lucas Stone, in Col. John Sparrowhawk's Regt. in 1779; but the rolls he describes are not found in this Office.
Edward D. Bangs, Secy.

J. L. Edwards Esq.
Comm ee Pensions

J. L. Edwards Esq.
I have sent to the Office of the Secretary of State of Massachusetts for further proof of Paul Gay's service as a Revolutionary Soldier but what ever the enclosed letters will show
I think Mr Gay in his declaration, fully shows the reason why his name is not found on the rolls of Capt Daniel Warner's Company, (Please to refer to his declaration, first page near the bottom,) I don't know as I shall be able to send you any better proof than the said declaration & I presume there can not be an individual found who is acquainted with Mr Gay, that won't call in question any statement made by him. No man's reputation for truth & veracity can be better. Proof this can be multiplied if necessary.
Yours Respectfully
H. Loring