Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 19495, Peter Getman, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Getman, Peter Elizabeth
W 19495
Soldier died May 22 1845.
CONTENTS

29078  New York  Peter Armine
of Newburgh in the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Miller — of the Regt. commanded by Col. Hook — in the N. York line for 2 Years
Inscribed on the Roll of N. York at the rate of 80 Dollars — Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 2 day of Aug 1832 and due to P. D. Armine on Palatine
Arrears to the 4th of Ma '33 $ 160 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sep '32 40 $ 200
Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. Jo. C. Stiles Clerk
Recorded by Book 8, Vol. 3, Page 57

1429 New York Albany Elizabeth Getman widow of Peter Getman N.Y. who served in the Revolutionary war, as a Private
Reported
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848.
Certificate of Pension issued the 24. day of August 1848, and sent to
Abraham A. Van Home Hudson Montgomery Co. N.Y.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 2, 1848, Page 75 Vol. 4.

No 13.711.
Peter Getman Montgomery county New York
5 16. P. 371
4 May 33 adms
George D. Ferguson blk Palatine Montgomery county county New York

Peter Schmitz Van Klief 20 May 1980 discharged to 310 Aug 1980 - 101 days Capt Russellmyne Ruler of Col Klecks Reprint attached Ruler

BRIEF in the case of  Peter Getman  County of Montgomery  in the State of  New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a Court.  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 68 years & 8 months.  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days. As a Gen.     Enrolled In 1779. Private Capt. Miller. Col. Block   Enlisted " 1780. 2 " " Capelman. " "   " " 1782. 9. " " French. " " Willett  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? at Stone Arabia & Johnston.  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? at Stone Arabia. N.Y.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Living Witnesses -  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Certificate of Certifying Officer not attached in the manner prescribed - 
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
E. Van Klief Examining Clerk.  H

State of New York Montgomery County } ss
In this 20 th day of September 1832 personally appeared in open Court before Aaron Haring Abraham Morell Samuel A. Gilbert John Hand and Henry S. Divenendorf Judges of the Court of Common Pleas, now sitting Peter Getman a resident of Ephratah in the County of Montgomery and State of New York aged Sixty Eight years and Eight Months, who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. That in the month of April 1779 he was enrolled in the Militia Company of Captain Henry Miller in Col. Klock's Regiment and marched with said Company to the Royal Grant and was there stationed to guard the then new settlement from the numerous maraudering parties of Tories and Indians that were at that time infesting the country under Butler and Brant or their emperies. That he continued in said Miller's Company until the Spring of 1780. That in April of that year he enlisted into the Company of Captain John Copselman. This was a Company of Rangers raised by order of the Committee of Tryon County and attached to the Regiment of Col. Jacob Klock the officers in this Company were at the time the applicant enlisted was John Copselman Captain Adam Empie Lieut and George Getman Ensign. That the service rendered while in this Company were, the Company was divided and a part stationed at Fort Paris under Capt. Copselman a part at the Forts on the Mohawk River under Lieut. Empie and a part at a Block House in the north settlement of Palatine from which under Ensign Getman from which station parties (called scouting parties) were sent to range and watch the movements of the hostile Indians and Tories and to give an alarm in case of danger. That this applicant enlisted in said Company for two years and served the full period of his said Enlistment that while in this Company he was the whole time in actual service, going on scouts both in summer and winter or when not in this service was with the Company at the Forts or in other service as ordered by the Captain or other superior officers. That he was at the Battle at Stone Arabia, and saw Col. Brown after he was slain and assisted at the funeral this was in October 1780. That this applicant was also (while in Capt. Copselman's Company) at the Battle at Johnstown on the 22 nd  August  October 1781. That when his term of service expired in Capt. Copselman's Company in April  March 1782. The applicant enlisted into a company of nine months men under the Command of Capt. French in Col. Willets Regiment. That he enlisted into said Company about the 1 st April 1782 at the Block House in Palatine and marched from there to Fort House near the east Canada Creek and from there to Fort Herkimer and was there stationed doing duty at garrison and going on scouting parties from the Fort at Herkimer to Fort Stanwix and the Oneida Lake and the interior and the then wilderness towards the River St. Lawrence until the 1 st Jan'y 1783 when he was discharged and returned to his home at Stone Arabia. He knows of no more or other testimony than than the affidavits herunto annexed all from his fellow soldiers and who served with him in the revolutionary war.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present

and declares that his name is not on the Roll of any agency of any State—
To the questions directed to be propounded he answers — 1 st He was born in the now Town of Ephratah County of Montgomery and State of New York on the 5 th day of January 1764 — He has a record of his age made by his Father in his Bible it is now at the house of Mr Philip Empie in the Town of Ephratah. He lived at Stone Arabia (now Palatine) when he entered the service. After the Revolutionary war he continued to live with his father at Stone Arabia about four years. He then married and settled in now Ephratah then Palatine about four miles from his father's then removed to Mannheim Herkimer County lived there seven years and has resided since that time in Ephratah his present place of residence — He was first enrolled as a militia soldier in Capt Henry Miller's Company and afterwards enlisted into the Companies of Captains Coppelman and French as stated above. He served with Col Willet Col Klock Major Fink Col Brown and the officers in the stations along the Mohawk River and in Troy on County —
Sworn to and subscribed this
20 th day of September 1832
John D. Henson Clerk
Peter Getman
State of New York { Montgomery County { ss
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in and for said County Peter Getman who being duly sworn deposes and says that the never to his knowledge received any written discharge from his services if he did it is lost —
That he is known to Thomas R Benedict John J Empie William Smith and many more who will testify to my character and their belief as to my services as a soldier of the Revolution
Subscribed and sworn to this 27 th day of May 1833 before me
Henry H Livingston Justice Pe
Peter Getman
In this fourteenth day of Sep
State of New York { Montgomery County { ss

State of New York, Montgomery County Clerk's Office ss: 3. George D. Ferguson, clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of said County, do hereby Certify that Henry M. Livingston before whom the within Supplemental declaration purports to have been sworn Was on the date thereof a Justice of the Peace of said County, and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice, & verily believe that the name of said Justice subscribed to the within Supplemental declaration is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 27th day of May 1833.
Geo: D. Ferguson

Geo: D. Ferguson
We Samuel Waters a clergyman residing in the town of Ephratah and Thomas R. Benedict residing in the same town hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Peter Getman who has subscribed to the above declaration and that him to be sixty Eight years of age that he is reputed and believed to be the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion Sworn to and subscribed
Samuel Waters
the day and year aforesaid
Thomas R Benedict
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states - And the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Samuel Waters who has signed the preceding Certificate is a clergyman residing in the town of Ephratah and that Thomas R Benedict who has also signed the same is a resident in the same town and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to Credit
I George D. Ferguson Clerk of the Court of Montgomery County Commonwealth do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Peter Getman for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 20th day of September 1832. Geo: D. Ferguson

State of New York } Montgomery County } ss
Peter Thite being duly sworn doth depose and say that he was well acquainted with Peter Getman during the Revolutionary War and knows that the said Peter Getman was engaged in the service of the United States during that period and especially in the Company of Capt French in which Company this deponent was also enlisted  was also enlisted, and in the Company of Capt. Appleton he knows that the said Peter Getman was also engaged at the Battle of Johnstown - and further this deponent says not Subscribed and sworn this 25 th day of June 1832 before me } his Peter Thite mark Henry M Livingston J.P.
State of New York } Montgomery County } ss
George Youker of oppenheim in said County being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is well acquainted with Peter Getman and has known him since the year 1782 at which time the said Peter Getman was engaged in the service of the United States with this deponent in Capt Frenchs Company Col Willets Regt and were discharged both on the same day viz on the 11 th day of Jan'y 1783 and returned home together and further this deponent says not Subscribed and sworn this 25 th day of June 1832 before me } his George Youker mark Henry M Livingston J.P.
I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Peter Thite and George Youker the above named deponents, and that they are men of truth and veracity and that their statements are entitled to credit
Henry M Livingston J.P.

State of New York Clinton County. ss.
I, George D. Ferguson, Clerk of Clinton County, do hereby certify that Henry M. Livingston before whom the foregoing affidavits of Henry Shute & George Couker, purport to have been sworn to on the day of the date thereof a true copy of the peace of the said County. And that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice & verily believe that the name of the said Justice subscribed to the said affidavits is genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of Office the 20th day of September 1832.
Geo: D. Ferguson
Affidavit by P. G. ... Service

State of New York Montgomery County } ss
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in and for said County John F. Empire who being duly sworn deposes and saith that he was well acquainted with Peter Griman during the Revolutionary War, that the said Peter Griman enlisted into the Company of Rangers Commanded by Captain John C. C. in Col. S. S. V. Regt. the fore part of April 1780 and served therein for the full term of two years from the said April 1780 until April 1782 the whole time in actual service of the United States and he further says that he has ever since the Revolutionary war been acquainted with the said Peter Griman who has ever sustained a good moral character and has ever been considered a man of truth and veracity.
Sworn & subscribed this 26 th May 1833 - before me
John F. Empire
Henry M. Livingston Justice Peace
I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with John F. Empire the above deponent and that he is a man of truth and veracity and that his statements is entitled to credit
Henry M. Livingston J.P.

State of New York } Montgomery County } B
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in and for said County William Smith of Ephratah who being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he was acquainted with Peter Gitman during the Revolutionary War. That the first of April 1780 this deponent enlisted into the service of the United States in a Company of Rangers under the Command of Captain John Copelman attached to the regiment of Col Jacob Klock, and that the said Peter Gitman was also an enlisted soldier (a private) in the service of the United States in said Company from the said 1 st April 1780 until the 1 st day of Jany 1781 when the period of this deponents enlistment expired, and he left the said Company. That when he this deponent was discharged from said Copelmans Company, the said Peter Gitman was still a member of said Company and in actual service as aforesaid. And further this deponent saith that on the 1 st of April 1782 this deponent and the said Peter Gitman both and at the same time enlisted into a Company of Nine Months men under the Command of Capt French in Col Willets Regiment and that he knows from his own knowledge of the service of the said Peter Gitman for the term of Nine Months as aforesaid in the Company of Capt Copelman and also of his services in the the Company of Capt French from the first of April 1782 until the 1 st day of Jany 1783 period of enlistment when they this deponent and the said Peter Gitman were both discharged from said Company at Fort Herkimer and returned home together. That in both of above named terms of service the said Peter Gitman was the whole time in actual service, and not engaged in any Civil Pursuit, and that the account of his services as given in his declaration in Capt Frenches Company is correct and true and that the most of services mentioned as being performed in Capt Copelmans Company and the circumstances there mentioned are also known to this deponent and are also true, that the said Peter Gitman has always been a good character &c. Subscribed and sworn this 27 th day of May 1833 before me
William Smith Mark
Henry M Livingston Justice Peace
I hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with William Smith the above named deponent and that he is a credible person in every respect and that his statement is entitled to credit.
Henry M Livingston J.P.

State of New York Montgomery County Clerks office, B:
— I George D. Ferguson, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Montgomery County, do hereby certify that Henry M. Livingston, before whom the foregoing annexed affidavits of John F. Empire & William Smith purport to have been sworn, was
On the date thereof a Justice of the peace of said county: And that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice & Verily believe that the name of said Justice subscribed to the said affidavits & also to the certificates of Character of the said Empire & Smith is in each case genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 27 th day 1833.
Geo: D. Ferguson
awed 24 mo. pri 908

✓ 134/12. for 1847. In the matter of Elizabeth Gitman widow of Peter Gitman due for a pension -
Declaration of widow
16: March 1847.
Maria before 1794 (No 1.)
Husband died 22 nd May 45
Rejected
J. H. H. L.
Solicitor

State of New York } County of Montgomery } ss.
On this 16 th day of March 1847, personally appeared in Open Court, before the Judges of the County Courts in and for said County Elizabeth Getmann (or Kitman ) a resident of the town of Ephratah in the County of Fulton formerly Montgomery aforesaid, aged Eighty-four years on the 28 th day of February last past, and she being duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress passed 7 th July 1838, entitled "an act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows & acts explanatory of, amending & extending the same. That she is the widow of Peter Getman who served in the war of the revolution as herein after stated. That she was married to said Peter Getman on the tenth day of March in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty five by the Rev d Mr Rees, at his house, Pastor of the Lutheran Church at Stone Arabia. That previous to her said marriage she resided in the Dilleburgh in the District of Palatine N.Y. and her maiden name was Elizabeth Richter (or Righter). That her husband the said Peter Getman died on the twenty second day of May, one thousand eight hundred & forty-five. That since his death she has remained single and unmarried and is still his widow & unmarried.
That her said husband Peter Getman was a pensioner of the United States under the act of 7 th June 1832, at the rate of $80 per annum on account of his services in the war of the revolution. Declarant is unable to specify said services, but remembers hearing her said husband say many years ago & before any pension laws were passed.

that he served at Stone Arabia when that place & others along the Mohawk valley were destroyed by the British & their Indian & Tory allies - that he served under Captain Riegelman or Capselman on several occasions, under Captain French & Colonel Willett - also at Sacandaga & Johnstown & Fort Herkimer and other forts along the said Valley. That her husband the said Peter Gitman was a son of Christian Gitman Captain of a Company of Rangers during said war.
And this Declarant further saith, that she had children by said Peter Gitman as follows -
A son named Peter who was born on the 29 th day of July one thousand seven hundred and ninety-two - another son named Arendt who was born on the 7 th November one thousand seven hundred & ninety-four - a daughter named Mary born 19 th September one thousand eight hundred and eighty-six, Anna born September 4 th one thousand seven hundred and eighty-eight - and further Declarant saith as follows -
Subscribed & Sworn this day & year first aforesaid in open Court as aforesaid. } Elizabeth her G. Gitman mark
C. J. Dunningley Clerk
And the said Court after an examination of the matter declare their opinion that the aforesaid Declarant Elizabeth Gitman is eighty four years old as she states in her declaration that she was married to said Peter Gitman on the tenth day of March one thousand seven hundred and eighty-five - that said Peter Gitman died on the twenty-second day of May one thousand eight hundred and forty-five - That after his death she remained a widow and unmarried, & that she is still unmarried. All of which is hereby accordingly certified.
I certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the application of Elizabeth Gitman for a pension.
Witness my hand & the seal of said Court this 18 th day of March in the year 1847.
C. J. Dunningley Clerk

State of New York County of Montgomery ss:
I, Charles Jukes of the town of Palatine in said County, do hereby certify and depose that I am pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church of Stone Arabia in said town - that as such I have the cus- tody of the Records of said church - That on examining the record of Baptisms, I find the following entry in fair legible figures and words, word for word & figure for figure, viz -
   1792. Eltern Kinder Gevattern     N. 29: July Peter Gettman Peter Richter   B. 5: Aug: Elizabeth, nat: Richter Peter Catharina Gettmann ledig   1794.   N. 7: November Peter Gettmann Arendt Brower Brude   B. 9: ejusd: Elizabeth nat: Richter Arendt Cornelia Richter ledig  
From which it appears that "Peter" a son of Peter Gettmann and Elizabeth his wife, whose maiden name was "Richter", was baptised according to the Rites of said church, and by the then pastor thereof, on the fifth day of August, in the year of our Lord One thousand seven hundred and ninety- two, and said son is noted as having been born on the 29 th day of July in said year last named (1792) It further appears that another child of said Peter Gettman & his wife Elizabeth named "Arendt", was born on the seventh day of November, one thousand seven hundred & ninety-four, and baptised on the 9 th day of said month of November last named.
Chas. Jukes
On this 19 th day of February 1847, Personally appeared before me the undersigned, Charles Jukes above named, who made oath that the facts set forth in the foregoing deposition by him

signed, are true and correct. I certify that I am well acquainted with said Deponent the Reverend Charles Jukes, and know him to be the Pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church of Stone Arabia as stated in said deposition or certificate by him signed & sworn to, and that he is highly esteemed in the community in which he lives, as a clergyman & gentleman of character & credibility. Witness my hand the day & year last above written. —
STATE OF NEW-YORK, Montgomery County Clerk's Office.
} ss.
I, CHESTER S. BRUMLEY, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that Abraham A. Van Horn Esq. whose name is subscribed to the annexed sworn to affidavit  was at the time the same bears date a Justice of the peace of said county; and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of such Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said sworn  is genuine:
Peace
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said county.
the 26 th day of March — 1847
C. Brumley CLERK.
In the matter of the application of Elizabeth Sitman widow of Peter Sitman deceased Affi as to Baptism of children &c.
No 2:

signed, are true and correct. I certify that I am well acquainted with said Deponent the Reverend Charles Jukes, and know him to be the Pastor of the Reformed Dutch Church of Stone Arabia as stated in said deposition or certificate by him signed & sworn to, and that he is highly esteemed in the community in which he lives, as a Clergyman & gentleman of character & credibility. Witness my hand the day & year last above written. —
Abm Van Horne Justice of the Peace
WARRIOR, I have personal and early facts handwriting of of said court whose name is so certify that I, CHES...

March 14, 1940.
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Mr. E. L. Reed 800 N. Clark Street Chicago, Illinois
BA-J/ADY Peter Getman W.19495
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your request relative to soldiers of the Revolutionary War with the name Peter Getman of New York.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited trained clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is impossible to comply in full with each request pertaining to soldiers of that war.
The data contained herein were obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War pension claim, W.19495, based upon the military service in that war of Peter Getman.
Peter, the son of Christian Getman, was born January 5, 1764, in Ephratah, Montgomery County, New York. The name of his mother is not shown.
While a resident of Stone Arabia, later called Palatine, New York, Peter Getman enlisted in April 1779, served as private in Captain Henry Miller's Company, Colonel Klock's New York Regiment and was discharged in the spring of 1780. He enlisted in April 1780, served two years as private in Captain John Hasselman's Company, Colonel Jacob Klock's New York Regiment, and was in the battles of Stone Arabia and Johnstown. He enlisted April 1, 1782, and served nine months as private in Captain Abner French's Company, Colonel Marinus Willett's New York Regiment.
After the Revolutionary War soldier lived in Mannheim , Herkimer County, New York, seven years, and then moved to Ephratah, New York.
He was allowed pension on his application executed September 20, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Ephratah, New York.
He died May 22, 1845, place not given.

Peter Getman married March 10, 1785, in Stone Arabia, New York, Miss Elizabeth Richter, the name is also shown as Rightor, of Dilleburgh, Palatine District, New York. She was born February 28, 1763, place, and the names of her parents are not designated.
Soldier's widow, Elizabeth Getman, was allowed pension on her application executed March 16, 1847, at which time she was a resident of Ephratah, New York.
In 1848, she was living in Oppenheim, Fulton County, New York.
The following names of the children of Peter and Elizabeth Getman are shown:
Mary born September 19, 1786. Ann or Anna " September 4, 1788. Peter " July 29, 1792. Arendt " November 7, 1794. Lewis " --- -- Jacob " --- -- Peggy " --- --
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name of person paid and possibly the date of the death of widow, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D.C., and cite the following data: " Elizabeth Getman, widow of Peter Getman, Certificate No. 1429, issued August 24, 1848, rate $80.00 per annum, commenced March 4, 1848, Albany, New York Agency, continued under the Act of February 2, 1848".
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

1924, Oct 16 - Hist. to Emma Perkins. um 1940 Mar 14 Hist. to C. F. Perkins
Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 19495 Elizabeth Getman Widow of Peter Getman Brn Rev. War
Act: Feb 2 nd  1/48
Index:—Vol. 18 , Page 268
[Arrangement of 1870.]

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523 Albany New York
Reported
Elizabeth Getman widow of Peter Getman who was a Private in the Revolution Husband died 22nd May 1845
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 80 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 1st 22nd day of March May, 1842.
Certificate of Pension issued the 3rd day of August '48. and sent to Hon. George Petrie W. H. Raper
[Act of JUNE 17, 1844.]
Recorded in Book 6 Vol. 2 Page 76

Peter Getman, Montgomery Co. N.Y. act 7 June 32/80 d .
To what time was he last paid
G. C. A.
Pension Office July 29 th 1848
Died 22 d May 1845
Paid to death
B. S. P.

My
Mr Cole
523-411
Col. J. L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
   1780. Sep r 1 st Peter Getman Private £ 0 19 6 2 / 3   " Apr l 15. Peter Getman " " 9 6 8   " " " Christian Ittick Serg t " 14 — —   " " " Geo: Ittick Corpt l " 10 5 4   " " " Ichabod Bonny Private " 9 6 8   " " " Counrad Ittick " " 9 6 8   " " " Fred k Getman " " 9 6 8   " " " George Weaver " " 9 6 8   " " " W m Folmer " " 9 6 8   " " " Peter Hozer " " 9 6 8   " " " Kudolph Bursch " " 10 13 4   " " " W m Cline " " 9 6 8   " " " Geo. Markarnier " " 9 6 8  
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, December 1847.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Books No. 1. & 6. — now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
First—under Capt. Henry Miller — in Col. Jacob Colock's — Reg't. Second " Lieut. John Smith " "is name does not appear" Third " " Do — " " Do — " Fourth " " Do — " " Do — " Fifth " " Do — " " Do — " Sixth " " Do — " " Do — " Seventh " " Do — " " Do — " Eighth " " Do — " " Do — " Ninth " " Do — " " Do — " Tenth " " Do — " " Do — " Eleventh " " Do — " " Do — " Twelfth " " Do — " " Do — "
C. C. Hagg, Compt.

refer to the for Hudson also Peter Ki'dman or Gitman

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
   1782. Dec r 31. Joseph Knox Sergeant £ 32 2 8   " " " Israel Willson Do " 31 17 4   " " " Robert Mc Masters Do " 31 17 4   " " " Henry Shoc Do " 29 12 -   " " " Balt. Kern Corpl. " 22 15 8   " " " Geo: Sheff Do " 22 15 8   " " " Jacob Shoc Do " 21 14 2   " " " Edd d Hutschen Do " 20 12 7   " " " Peter Ridman private " 21 4 10   " " " Henry Rightmore " " 19 - 5   " " " William Smith " " 18 9 9  
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, Nov r 27 1847.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2 at page 50. now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
First—under Capt. Abner French in Col. Marinus Willett's Reg't.
   Second " " Do " " Do "   Third " " Do " " Do "   Fourth " " Do " " Do "   Fifth " " Do " " Do "   Sixth " " Do " " Do "   Seventh " " Do " " Do "   Eighth " " Do " " Do "   Ninth " " Do " " Do "   Tenth " " Do " " Do "   Eleventh " " Do " " Do "   Twelfth " " _____ " " _____ "  
Philip Phelps Dep Compt r

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
   1782: Dec: 31. Joseph Knox Sergeant £ 32. 2. 8   Israel Willson Do " 31. 17. 4   Robert Mc Masters Do " 31. 17. 4   Henry Shoe Do " 29. 12 —   Batt: Kern Corpl " 22. 15. 8   Geo: Shoff Do " 22. 15. 8   Jacob Shoe Do " 21. 14. 2   Edw: Hutchen Do " 20. 12. 7   — Peter Ridman private " 21. 4. 10   Henry Rightmore " " 19. — 5   — William Smith " " 18. 9. 9  
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany,
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you are in this

Eliz th widow of Peter Ketman
No 1. Compton Cash.

[Persons making application at the Comptroller's, or Secretary of State's Office, for searches, or certificates of service of any person, in the army of the U. S. during the revolutionary war, should give the name and ranks held by such person; the nature of the service; whether in the Infantry, Cavalry, or Artillery &c.; in the regular army or militia; the names of the officers commanding the regiments and companies at the time of enlistment, service, and discharge, as near as can be given]
In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:
1782 Dec 31 Peter Ridman, private No of Certificates 7535 £ 21 04 10
I certify that the name of William Smith appears to have served in the same company, and at the same time with the above named private, Peter Ridman. Albany May 19 th 1848.
Philip Sheeps Dep Comp t
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, May 19—
1848
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:
  First — under Capt. Abner French in Col. Maarman Willett Reg't.   Second " " " " "   Third " " " " "   Fourth " " " " "   Fifth " " " " "   Sixth " " " " "   Seventh " " " " "   Eighth " " " " "   Ninth " " " " "   Tenth " " " " "   Eleventh " " " " "   Twelfth " " " " " 
Philip Sheeps Dep Comp t

Elizabeth widow of
Peter Gitman
No 2
Comptroller's certificate
[Persons making application at the Comptroller's, or Secretary of State's Office, for searches, or certificates of service of any person, in the army of the U. S. during the revolutionary war, should give the name and ranks held by such person; the nature of the service; whether in the Infantry, Cavalry, or Artillery &c.; in the regular army or militia; the names of the officers commanding the regiments and companies at the time of enlistment, service, and discharge, as near as can be given.]

[Persons making application at the Comptroller's, or Secretary of State's Office, for searches, or certificates of service of any person, in the army of the U. S. during the revolutionary war, should give the name and ranks held by such person; the nature of the service; whether in the Infantry, Cavalry, or Artillery &c.; in the regular army or militia; the names of the officers commanding the regiments and companies at the time of enlistment, service, and discharge, as near as can be given]
In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:
1780. April 1 Peter Vittman as private, No of 20943. £ 7 09 04
I certify that the name of William Smith, private appears to have served in the same company, at the same time. Albany May 19 1848.
Philip Phelps Dep Compt
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, May 19 th 1848.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 5 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:
  First — under Capt. Frederick Vittman in Col. Peter Bellinger Reg't.   Second " " " " "   Third " " " " "   Fourth " " " " "   Fifth " " " " "   Sixth " " " " "   Seventh " " " " "   Eighth " " " " "   Ninth " " " " "   Tenth " " " " "   Eleventh " " " " "   Twelfth " " " " " 
Philip Phelps Dep Compt

Elizabeth Gitman widow of Peter Git- man - act. of 7 July 1838.
2 Aff ts of Identity & widow- hood vs by Henry Snell & John Edwards.
No 3.

State of New York Fulton County } ss
I John Edwards of the town of Ephrata In Said County Being first duly sworn according to law I do depose & say that I knew Peter Getman & his then wife now widow of Peter Getman For twenty years that he was reputed to have been A Revolutionary Soldier, and that he is the same person who received a pension for his services that he died about two years ago, that he left him surviving Elizabeth Getman his widow, who is still his widow & Unmarried I do further say that that I knew some of their children viz four sons Peter Arnt Lewis & Jacob & two Daughters
Peggy & Mary
Subscribed and sworn before me
this 17th March 1847
John Edwards
Thomas R. Benedict Justice
I certify that John Edwards the above named deponent is a man of truth and veracity that he is the same Hon John Edwards the late Representative in the Congress of the United States from the district then composed of the Counties of Montgomery & Fulton Thomas R. Benedict Justice
State of New York Fulton County Clerk's office } ss
I Stephen West Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Thomas R. Benedict Esq before whom the within & foregoing affidavit of John Edwards, son of Henry West, was taken, was at the date and time of taking the same a justice of the peace in and for said County duly elected and sworn residing in said County, and duly authorized to take the same, and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said justice, and verily believe that his name subscribed to each of the perats, and to the certificate following said affidavits is his genuine signature. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and the seal of said County and of the Court of Common pleas thereof this 18th day of March A.D. 1847 S. West Clerk

State of New York Fulton County } ss
I Henry Snell of the town of Euphrata In said county Being first duly sworn according to Law I do say that I was personally well acquainted and knew Peter Getman & his then wife now widow of Peter Getman for upward of forty years that he was reputed to have been a Revolutionary Soldier, and that he is the same person who received a pension for his services that he died about two - years ago that he left him surviving Elisabeth Getman the widow who is still his widow & Un married That they had the following children I begat her viz A Daughter Ann, the Sons Peter Arrent Sn & Jacob & some others than those above named I was most particularly acquainted with
Sworn and subscribed before me this 17 th March 1847
Thomas R. Benedict Justice
Henry Snell
I certify that Henry Snell the above named deponent is a man of truth and veracity and that his above statement is entitled to full credit
Thomas R. Benedict Justice
(Signature of Thomas R. Benedict Justice)

Elizabeth Getman Widow of Peter Getman dec d
Declaration of widow under act of 2 Feb y 1848.
ad
admitted
G. J. G. Abraham A. Van Horne Honda Montgomery Co. N.Y.

State of New-York, } ss. County of Fulton
On this 10 th day of August in the year one thousand eight hundred and forty- eight , personally appeared before the subscriber, a Justice of the Peace in and for the county of Fulton in the state of New York, Elizabeth Getman a resident of the town of Oppenheim in the said county of Fulton aged Eighty five years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following Declaration, in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the Act of Congress, passed on the 2d February, 1848, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War:
That she is the widow of Peter Getman who was a private in the Revolution, and was at the time of his death a pensioner of the United States under the act of 7 th June 1832, and on account of whose services as such private she was pensioned under the act of Congress passed June 17 th 1844, and the annual amount of pension she received under the act last named was Eighty Dollars .
She further declares that she is still a widow, and that she has never learned to write.
Sworn to & subscribed the } Elizabeth Getman day & year first above } Mark written before me }
Peter W Planty , Justice of the Peace Henry Van Horn Witness
I certify that the above declarant is personally known to me -
Peter W Planty , Justice
State of New-York, } ss. County of Fulton
I, Stephen Wirt Clerk of the said county, do hereby certify that Peter W Planty was on the day of the date of the above Declaration and Certificate, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said county, duly appointed and sworn, and that the signatures to the Jurat of the above Declaration and to the above Certificate, purporting to be his, are genuine.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of the said county, this 10 th day of August 1848.
S. Wirt Clerk

Act 44 Cool No 13462
Elizabeth Gitman inv. of Peter NY
act 7 July 1838
Rejected instead and 22 May 1845
Adm'd act 17 June 44
27 cans per $80 00 per m on 22 May 1845
Hon Geo Petrie House of Reps

Col J L Edwards Com. of Pensions,
House of Representatives Washington Dec. 27. 1847
Sir,
Will you do me the favor of giving your earliest convenient attention to the Pension Papers herewith enclosed and inform me of the result.
Very Respectfully Your Obedt Servt. Geo. Pittri

Peter Getman
of Ephraim Np.
13.711
13.711

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims , of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Peter Gatzman which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes.
II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes.
III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so?
IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes.
V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? No.
Not on Rolls; some evidence of service must be furnished; applicant required to furnish the date & length of each term on the frontier
VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes.
VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes.
VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes.
IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes.
X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes.

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? Yes.
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? No
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? Yes.
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? Yes.
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? Yes.
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? Q 275.
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
† QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡ QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

Elizabeth Getman
Widow of
of Peter Gitman or Kidman — act of 1844.
Letter of Sol. Giffard with proofs
No. 1.
A. S. Edwards Comm. of Revision.

Albany, N.Y. May 19 th 1848
Sir.
In the matter of the application of Elizabeth widow of Peter Gitman I have to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of the 5 th Jany ult o .
As I had not prepared the papers in the case of the husband, and the widow was unable to give the full details of his service, in collecting the proofs required I had to labor in the dark, and there may have been two of the same name in the revolutionary war.
Peter Gitman died 22 nd May 1845 in the receipt of a pension of $80 per annum. The claim therefore is only from 23 rd May 1845 to 4 th March 1848.
As the services of the husband have been once proved and allowed, I would avail myself of the law lately passed (as I am informed) which renders it unnecessary for the widow to prove the services over again, on her own application.
The german mode of writing the letter K is not like our latin mode, but somewhat thus - "B" resembling more our letter R or B. The entry on the Comptroller's Books of which I have given a transcript, to wit in ref

-erence to Peter Gitman's services under Capt. Abner French of the Levies in 1782, ( as "Kidman") was no doubt copied from a German manuscript. Nearly every member of Flock's & Dellenzer's Regiments to which Gitman belonged, were Germans - and it is a very common for the Germans to use "D" for "t" & "t" for "d", & "K" for "G" & "G" for "K". Hence we have Kitman for Gitman and Kidman for Gidman &c. I now adduce a new Certificate of the Comptroller (See paper N o 1. ) in which he certifies, that W m Smith served at the same time & in the same company with Gitman or Kidman. This same W m Smith , it must be borne in mind is a witness for Gitman.
I cannot as before stated find any record proof for the alleged service of Gitman in 1779, but Gitman declares that his service in 1779 under Col. Dellenzer (Capt. Miller &c) did not terminate till the Spring of 1780. Of his service in the early part of 1780, before he joined Kapselman's Company (or Kapselman's) I have now found proof, and exhibit a Certificate thereof N o 2 ( L 7:9:4 )
In this certificate the Comptroller has also certified that W m Smith aforesaid (Gitman's witness) served at the same time.
Very respectfully To Col. Edwards Comm n Pension Your Ob t Serv t  G. F. H. H. D.

Recapit n - Documentary evidence adduced of Peter Gitman's service before he joined Kapselman's Company of Rangers & served for 104 days therein - and also of service in Captain French's company in 1782 - & of Kapselman's in 1780.

Albany May 25 th 1848
Dear Geo: Petrie M.C. Sir:
The third case I have pending before the Comm te of Pensions, which I request you to call up for immediate adjustment, is that of Elizabeth widow of Peter Getman , or Getman or Kidman or Kitman .
In regard to this case the Comm te of Pensions states in his letter of the 18 th Oct r 1847, "the evidence is satisfactory to establish the marriage" &c "but the alleged service should be verified by the records of the Comptroller at Albany," &c
Now in this case the husband died 22 nd May 1845, in the receipt of a pension of $80 per annum. The widow's claim therefore

is only from 22 d May 1845 to 4 th March 1848. I have been informed that Congress has lately passed a law, authorizing (and directing) the Comm ee to admit the widow's claim in cases of this character without requiring her to prove the service over again . The service of Gilmán has already been proved satisfac- -torily without the record evidence now re- -quired - which record evidence does not exist & therefore cannot be obtained, any more than the testimony of witnesses dead & buried. It is notorious that the public records of revolutionary service for the years 1775, '76, '77, & '78, are not at all extant except in some instances for Officers & Regiments. Even the Rolls of 1779 &c are imperfect in many particulars.
If such a law as the one above named, has passed Mrs Gilmán would fain

have the benefit of it. If not, and record proof must needs be obtained, I have endeavoured to meet that emergency in the best way possi- ble. Certificates from the Comptroller of N. York show that the applicant served in the beginning of the year 1780 up to April of that year under Col: Clock or Klock. A Certificate from the Office of the Secretary of State shows that he served from the 20 th May 1780 to 31. Aug t 1780 in Cagelman's or Kopselman's Company of Rangers. & he served a 9 mo- tour in 1782 under Capt. French of the Levies - making in all only about 13 months that can be proved by the imperfect records at Albany instead of 24 months. In reference to the service in 1782 under French, the testimony of W m Smith who served with him in that Company is on file, and the Compt- has certified that W m Smith & Peter Ridman appear

on the same Roll of Pencil - This aff d of Wm Smith was taken eight or ten years ago & should therefore have more weight in this case. The Comm ee in his letter of 5 th Jan y 1848, says - that "the payment of Peter  Kitman for service "under Capt. French of Col. Willett's Reg t "cannot be admitted as evidence of the service of "Peter Gitman ". Here you will note that in the same orthography of the name the German practice of using K for G, "Kitman" instead of "Gitman", & the "D" for "t", which you know to be very common - "Ki'dman" for "Kitman" is exemplified. The German K is made like the Latin or English R. An objection of this kind appears to us who have some little knowledge of the matter to which I have referred, to say the least gratuitous. But the Pension office should not be blamed for guarding well the public coffers. I enclose a rough copy of some of the names as they appear on French's Roll in the Comptroller's office. A similar paper with some of those names is on file in the Pension office. You will see there the name of "Hutchen" for "Hudson" "shoe" for "shew" "Rightmore" for "Rightmeyer" - &c
Truly Yours G. F. H. S.

Ho. of Reps
Sir,
July 24, 1848
Herewith you have a letter from G H Yates Esq to which I would invite your attention. Knowing as I do, that Most of the Officers in command of Companies along the Mohawk in the Revolutionary war were very illiterate Men, it is not surprising to me that the names of Many of the Soldiers should be spelled differently on different rolls, and could very easily believe that 'Peter Getman' and Peter Widman meant the same individual. In connection with this I would call your attention to an Ancient account filed among the papers in the claim of the children of Adam Hartman deceased, asserted by them under the act of 7 th June 1832.
I have the honor to be, Very Respectfully Your Obedt Servant Geo. Pitkin Col L L Edwards Commr of Pensions

Sir.
Aug t 14 th 1848.
I send inclosed a Declaration made under the Act of Congress passed 2 nd February 1848 in conformity with the rules in such cases made and provided, of Elizabeth Getman widow of Peter Getman deceased.
Oblige by forwarding Certificate when issued, to "Abraham A. Van Horne Esq r Ponda Montgomery Co. N.Y.", her agent, in pursuance of her request.
I am very respectfully Your most Ob t Serv t
G. H. W. H.
to Col A. L. Edwards Comm ee of Pensions.

In the matter re of Elizabeth widow of Peter  Gitman  deceased
Letter of G. H. Yates Esq. with papers accompany- ing.
Sep r 15 th 1879.

Albany N. Y. Sept 15 1847.
Sir.
I send herewith papers in support of the claim of Elizabeth Gitman widow of the late Peter Gitman died for a pension under the act of 7 th July 1838 &c.
1 st Declaration of widow with Certificate of Court. Peter Gitman died in the receipt of a pension of $80 per an: under the act of 7 th June 1832, leaving said Elizabeth his widow. They were married on the 10 th March 1785. Pay claimed from 22 nd May 1845 when he died, at cost: service under Capt: Capelman, French &c as I am informed.
2 nd Affidavit of Rev d Ch s Jenkins giving records Proof of birth & baptism of children in 1792 & 7 th Nov: 1794.
3 rd Aff ts of Henry Snell & John Edwards former M.C. known to Department, proving identity.
I am very respectfully Your obed t serv t
To Col. J. L. Edwards Comm ee of Pensions.
G. H. Yates.

Geo. Peter, M.C.C.
Elizabeth Gilman widow of Peter Gilman
G. H. Yates atty
Col. J. L. Edwards
Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.

Albany N.Y. Dec r 20 th 1847
Sir. In reference to the claim of Elizabeth widow of Peter Gitman for a pension under the act of 7 th July 1838, I have your letter (the last I believe) dated the 18 th October ult o . In that you stated, that the proof of marriage was satisfactory, but that the alleged service under Capt. Miller in 1779, under Capt. Cagelman in 1780, & under Capt. French & Col. Willett in 1781 & 1782, should be verified by the records in the Comptrol- -ler's office in Albany.
I have diligently & thoroughly examined said records, and can find no evidence at all, of the service under Capt. Cagelman, nor yet of the service in 1779 & 1781. This circumstance is my applicant's misfortune, yet I honestly believe it affords no evidence that the alleged service in '79, 80 & 81, was not in reality rendered. On ascertaining that William Smith 's affidavit was already on file in the matter of Gitman's application under the act of 1832, I did not procure it again. I hope Smith's testimony and all the other testimony adduced in the case of Peter Gitman himself, will be taken into account in deciding the widow's claim.
Gitman died 22 nd May 1845, (as the Certificate of the Court will show), in the receipt of a pension of $80 per annum. The claim of the widow therefore is only from 22 nd May 1845, to the present time. I am gratified in being able

to furnish documentary evidence, never before ad- -duced owing doubtless to the circumstance of a discrepancy in the orthography of the name. That Germans use the K where the English do the G, or to speak more properly, give to the G the sound of K (which would lead an English chorographer to use the K for the G) is well known, and had I found the name written " Kitman " there would have been no occasion even to allude to the circumstance. But in the case before us, the small K (R) being placed at the beginning of the name where a Capital instead of a small letter should stand, it cannot be distinguished from an R , so that it would at first blush be mistaken for an R. Hence the entry on the 2 d Volume of Levys & Militia service I now adduce, has heretofore been overlooked. That it does apply to my applicant is un- -questionable, and that it may appear to you the more clearly, I give the names of his associate soldiers who served in the same expedition with him, terminating 31 st Dec r 1782. Of these W m Smith aforesaid is one. Peter Ritman received on this occasion £ 21: 4: 10, for services under Capt. French & Col. Willett ,
I also adduce the testimony of the

service of Peter Gitman under Lieut. Smith in the spring of 1780, and of a short tour under Capt. Miller in the fall of 1780, amounting to £10:6:2 1/3. I have introduced the names of nearly all the soldiers who served in the detachment under Lieut. Smith in order to show his identity. These associates all hail from the same district of Country Gitman did. Although I can adduce no direct proof of the fact, I am convinced that this detachment consisted of men enlisted under Capt. Coppelman & were selected from his company. This John Smith I think was a Lieutenant under Capt. Demouth of the Rangers.
I am very respectfully Your Ob t Serv t
G. H. Hales.

THIS SIDE OF CARD IS FOR ADDRESS
NOT FOR
U. S. PATENT OFFICE
Veteran s Administration Washington, D. C.
Pension Dept.
NOT FOR
U. S. PATENT OFFICE

800 N. Clark St., Chicago, Ill., 2/16, 1940
Gentlemen:
Will you kindly send us the genealogical matter in the records of Peter Getman W16267 and of Peter Getman W19497 both being New York Revolutionary Soldiers. This from their application for pensions.
Truly yours,
E. L. Reed.
one

Canastota, N.Y., Sept. 23, 1924.
Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D.C.
Gentlemen:-
Will thank you send me a copy of the pension papers of Peter Getman a Revolutionary soldier who enlisted from Tryon County, now Montgomery County, of the State of New York, in the militia, second regiment, under Col. Jacob Klock. If my information is correct his pension papers and record thereof will be found in Book of References entitled U.S.Congress 23, Sess.1, Sen.Doc.V 13, No.514, p age 347. If there is any charge for this copy of the pension papers, you will kindly enclose the bill in your reply with the copy.
Thanking you in advance for your courtesy and immediate reply, I remain,
Very truly yours,
Emma M. Perkins, R. F. D. #1, Canastota, N.Y.

2m
October 16, 1924.
Emma M. Perkins, Route #1, Canastota, N. Y.
Madam:
I have to advise you that from the papers in Revolutionary War pension claim, W.19495, it appears that Peter, son of Christian Getman, was born in Ephratah, Montgomery County, New York, January 5, 1764.
While a resident of Stone Arabia (later Palatine) New York, he enlisted in April 1779 in Captain Henry Miller's Company, Colonel Klock's New York Regiment, and continued to serve until the spring of 1780.
He enlisted in April 1780, served 2 years as a private in Captain John Kasselman's Company, Colonel Jacob Klock's New York Regiment, and was in the battles of Stone Arabia and Johnstown.
He enlisted April 1, 1782, and served 9 months in Captain Abner French's Company, Colonel Marinus Willett's New York Regiment.
He was allowed pension on his application executed Sep-

tember 20, 1832, while a resident of Ephratah, New York. He died May 22, 1845.
Soldier married March 10, 1785, at Stone Arabia, New York, Elizabeth Richter of Dilleburgh, Palatine District, New York, born February 28, 1763. She was allowed pension on her application executed March 16, 1847, while a resident of Ephratah, New York.
The following children are mentioned:
Mary born September 19, 1786. Anna " September 4, 1788. Peter " July 29, 1792. Arendt " November 7, 1794. Lewis " --- Jacob " --- Paggy " ---
Respectfully,
Commissioner.
Note:
Sol. did not claim service in Capt. Kettman's Co, Col Bellinger's Regt, so did not use it. It probably refers to the other Peter Kettman in Rev. Files.
Did not use Col Brown's name (mentioned at end of soldier's aff.)
u.m.