Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 16,244, John Duesler, New York

SERVICE
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New York
Duesler, John or Deusler
N. 16,244
Catharine
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Rep. 14 June '44
Let R. D. Chapman
July 28/5
 1844 Jan'y 31 - How L. Tremain - why had application for Increase to $50 00 was rejected  1845 June 16 Daniel Duesler - that her was prevented from claiming Increase of pension by Sect 4742 Rev Statute  1845 Sept 14 Dan Duesler - against the rule to return papers filed on a claim  1845 Sept 13 Dan Duesler - all pension allowed to which widow entitled  1845 Oct 14 Dan Duesler - explaining more fully why widow did not receive as much pension as her husband  1845 Oct 18 Dan Duesler - declaration Soldier for a pension can not be rendered being part of records of office and no copy of act June 7, 1832 to be had  1848 March 23 - Dan Duesler that he was had no claim for increase under existing law Also that the correspondence in 1844-45 fully explained it. Prior  1848 June 22 R G Ingersoll that a son of the soldier was not entitled to a pension in his own right Prior 
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Catharine who died widow of who was a and who 19
Inscribed on the rate of _____ dollars per annum to commence on the _____ day of _____ 1836. and increased from $20. July 3 per Ann.
Certificate of Pension issued the _____ day of _____ 1836 and signed by J. B. Benton. Little Falls, N. York
Total amount, $_____
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Witted by J. L. Swann Clerk,
Vol. 1 Page 157.
to Andrew William, Daniel & son for H. M. ... (same) Mrs Wiley ... Burlington ... Pa ...

24.558 New York John Duesler of Herkshire in the State of New York who was a private in the Company commanded by Captain Putnam of the Regt. commanded by Col. Nuttall in the N. Y. mil. line for 24 mo.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 80 Dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 13 day of Jan. 1834 and sent to Hon. A. Ellan Jr. H. N. Jr.
Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833. $200.00 emi-ant. allowance ending March 34. $40.00 $240.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. I. Williams Clerk, Book C Vol. 4 Page 96

State of New York Herkimer County ss: George Rosecrantz of the town of Little Falls & County aforesaid being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he is a son of the late Reverend Abraham Rosecrantz deceased, that his said father was the settled minister of Reformed Protestant Dutch Church in the now town of German Flats long before & during the whole of the Revolutionary war & for many years after the said war, that he kept a record of Marriages & baptisms administered by him, that most of these records were lost or destroyed in the war, that this Respondent has since the death of his father had the care and custody of those preserved, and that on exami- nation thereof he finds a record of the Marriages, in the hand writing of his father, of John Grusler to Catharine Housen entered of the date of 13 th of March 1785 in the regular order of dates of Marriages preceding & succeeding this date Respondent believes the said record to be genuine & true and the following is a true copy, or extract of the entry of said Marriage taken & copied from said record viz - "1785
March 13 th Married John, Son of Andrew Grusler to Catharine Housen -
And Respondent further saith that he was barely four years of age on the 13 th day of March last; and further deponeth saith not known to before me this George Rosecrantz tenth day of October 1838
Robert Casler Justice of the Peace
Herkimer County Town of Little Falls ss: I Robert Casler the Justice who administered the oath to the

Above named George Dorrance, hereby Certify that I Am well acquainted with said Dorrance, and have known him well for more than twenty five years, and he is a man of as high standing, & as fair character as any other in the Community, is a man of unimpeachable Character, & undoubted truth and veracity
Robert Casker Justice
State of New York
Herkimer County ss I John Deyne Clerk of said County do hereby Certify that Robert Casker Esq r before whom the annexed Affidavit purports to have been taken Was at its date a Justice of the peace duly Sworn and qualified and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and Verily believe the Signatures are genuine In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said County this 19 th October 1835 J Deyne Clerk
3504 4331 Catherine Deyne
March 13 th March 17 th
February 17 July 1836 - James D.
Converse of that time
Jonathan
Converse of that time
J. H. Casker Esq r Converse of that time

Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7 th July 1838 entitled "an act granting Half pay pensions to certain widows"
State of New York
Montgomery County ss. On this 29 th day of December one thousand Eight hundred and thirty Eight personally appeared before me David F. Saria one of the judges of the Montgomery County courts Catharine Deusler a resident of the town of Maiden in the county of Montgomery aforesaid aged Seventy Seven Years on the 11 th day of September last past who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7 th 1838 entitled "an act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows" that she is the widow of John Deusler who was a private soldier in the army of the Revolution and who was during his life on the pension list as a pensioner at the rate of Eighty Dollars per Year that this deponent has not been able to find the Certificate from the Pension office declaring the amount of the said pension and cannot therefore state particularly under what act it was granted but believes it was under the act of 7 th June 1832 that said Certificate is either lost or it was annexed to the papers upon which this deponent drew the back pay of her said husband after his death and this applicant relies upon the evidence on file in the Pension office of the services of her said husband Deusler which said pension was granted - she further declares that she was married to the said John Deusler on the 13 th day of March 1785 that her husband the said John Deusler died on the 17 th day of July 1836 that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first of January Seventeen hundred and ninety four viz: at the time above stated and that she is the identical Catharine Deusler named in the annexed affidavit of George Rosecrantz sworn to & subscribed on the day & year above
written before - D. F. Saria Judge of Montgomery County courts - Catharine Deusler her mark
State of New York
Montgomery County ss I certify that I am personally acquainted with the above named Catharine Deusler that she is reputable her declaration is entitled

to full credit that she is not able to attend court to make this declaration by reason of bodily infirmity and that she made her mark to said declaration because she could not write - Dated Canajoharie December 29. 1838 -
D. F. Sacia Judge of Montgomery County Courts -
State of New York Montgomery County
Clerks Office ss I do hereby certify that David F. Sacia whose name is subscribed to the Jurat of the foregoing Affidavit was on the day of the attestation thereof a Judge of the Montgomery County Courts and duly authorized by the Laws of the said State to administer Oaths and that his Signature subscribed to the same is genuine Given under my hand and seal of office this 1 st day of January 1839. A. J. Bonner Clerk

Declaration in Order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7. 1832.
State of New York
Herkimer County 3 d ss.
On this twelfth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three  there , personally appeared in open court, before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Herkimer, now sitting, John Busler, a resident of the town of Danube in the County of Herkimer and State of New York, aged sixty five years on the twenty first day of August last past, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832.
That at the commencement of the Revolutionary war this Deponent was a private in a Company of Militia, commanded by Capt. Abraham Coppersmith, in Col. Cox's Regiment, & he thinks the last Colonel Christian name was Bruger. That Deponent resided at that time in the then town of Canajoharie in the County of Tryon, now Danube Herkimer County - and once Mendon Montgomery County - that the first time they were called out they went to Canajoharie, that Genl. Herkimer had the command, Col Cox was there with his Regiment, and there was a report when they went there that there would be a battle, but when they got there they did not fight, the regiment was quartered several times on the ice of the Mohawk River, and they remained there three or four days, and then they marched up to Johnstown about a mile

above the Village they were there about a day he thinks & that they marched down to Poughkeepsie where they staid about a day & then they went home - that it was said that a treaty had been made with Sir John Johnson that he should not take up arms against the country - thinks they were about from home ten or twelve days - thinks it was about twenty four or five miles that they went from home - that in the Spring of the same year & he thinks in May there was a report that the Indians & Tories were collecting in Johnstown the company was called out to go down there, that the company came up with the rest of the regiment or rather the regiment assembled just below the Nose so called on the Mohawk River, at a tavern which was kept close by, that he thinks his name was McElvane - then the Regiment under the com- mand of Col. Cox marched down to Poughkeepsie again, where they remained a day or two thinks two days & then they returned home again, did not find any Indians or Tories; the Regiment he thinks was dismissed at Hurney's Grove near the Nose or above mentioned, that he thinks he was out there then a week - that in a short time after they came back it was reported that Guy Johnson & one Col. Clance who lived below Johnstown & down by Ripes hill, were coming up the Mohawk with flour, rum & other liquors & bread, etc. and it was said that the flour barks had bags of powder inside of the flour - when Capt. Coppersmith's Company & Capt. Ormsby's Company were called out to march up and follow the boats up the Mohawk River, and when they came up to Fort Herkimer they met the Herkimer people under Col. Bellerger thinks his name was Peter Bellerger - & Major Clapp was

then, Bellingr took Command of the detachment - and then marched up to Fort Stanwix and found the boats there, the boats were mostly un- lodged and the barrels were carried across Blood Creek about two miles, they went to this place found them lying on the banks of the Creek Capt. Cushman was the man who suspected the boats & the barrels, bore holes in the flour Bbls. & tested the liquor Barrels & drew some liquor out - that Maj. Clapsaltte told Capt. Cushman that he did not inspect them sufficiently, Cushman said if he did not like it, he might inspect them himself, Clapsaltte said he would make him do it - Cushman jumped out of the boat where he then was & told Clapsaltte to come on & make him do it, & drew his sword - and afterwards stuck his sword in the ground & said he would try him with his hands - the men were stationed around the barrels to keep guard - they found no powder but some excellent liquor - and they remained there three or four days, and then they marched home That I found that as they were absent about ten or twelve days - thinks this was in the mouth of One - And in about a week or two there was an order came from Genl. Schuyler that each Company in the Regiment should furnish two men as a guard to the Genl. who was going up to the Germanflatts to make a treaty with the Five Nations of Indians, I found was one of the two, the company was called out & they drew lots - and they came up to Fort Herkimer, Capt. Brown who came from Danbeck with some men then took command and marched them over to the present Village of Herkimer, where there were some houses, but no Fort -

The object of Genl. Schuyler was to make a tree with the Indians, there were a great many Indians here at that time. About all the Indians were in a fortnight before the Indians all got together, & at this time the men were employed in cutting timber to make a fort, made a beginning at the work & was then discharged - then went home again, about this time about three weeks - He remained at home some time but can not say exactly how long, it was reported that the Indians were collecting again - that Deponant was again called out & he and Capt. Esbeman and the whole company & Deponant thinks Capt. Deymonds company was also along, they came up through the woods to the Indian castle about eight or ten miles, that they lay out in the woods the first night near the castle, staid there a day or two, kept guard part of them & some went into the woods further to see if they could find any Indians - that he was out there about four days - this Deponant was also out on scouting parties several times, but he can not say how often, during this time. That this Deponant thinks he performed duty during the year as much as three months, although he can not recollect the exact time he was out on each occasion -
And this Deponant further says that in the year 1777. according to his best recollection the Militia were called out again, but can not recollect the month. He thinks it must have been the last of April or first of May. That part of the company only was called out under the command of Lieut. George Raisnor. Deponant can not recollect who was the Capt. was that there was a draft from each company in the Regiment of Men & officers, but he can not recollect that there was any field officer along - He thinks there was

somewhat more than an hundred men out at this time - they marched back of Johnstown to a place called Sakundaga - I suppose if there were any Indians & Ponies collected there, but did not find any, can not say exactly how long they were there, remained at Johnstown & while there they went out & when they came back - the orders were to take three days provisions with them, but after they were at Johnstown they drew provisions - went out about two weeks & then marched back to Fort Rain & were there dismissed - That he was sent out as a Scout after this up the Griseburgh, or Goat hill as it is translated - where the company had a rendezvous, & the Capt. Casperman used to send them from here, sometimes only two or three men were sent, sometimes five or a dozen & frequently more - and their turns would come often to go, they were out sometimes two days & sometimes only one - after this then the attacks in May there was a report that the Indians were coming back upon the Germanflats the whole Regiment was then called out, & they mustered at Little Fall hill where our District Capt. Peter Deygel kept a Tavern - then the Regiment marched up to Fort Arkinimer, there was a Fort & a block house there - here they learned it was a false alarm, it was reported that the Indians had said they would burn off the flats - remained at the Fort two or three days, and then went back as far as Deygel's Tavern & were dismissed - And after they returned home they were employed as Scouts and sometimes on guard, it was considered a dan- gerous time, and on every report whether true or false the men were assembled - and were out sometimes a day & sometimes only a night -

And this Deponant further says, that in the latter part of June or in the early part of July in that year - 1877 - he was called out again together with about a part of the company that Capt. Cross of the same Regiment had com- mand of this Deponant, and part of his company was out, don't recollect any of his company officers were along - that the Regiment assem- bled at Cherry Valley when there a settlement. Genl. Askinine then had the command, they were at Cherry Valley, a day or more can not say how long, then marched down to Otsego Lake to the mouth or out let of the lake, a few houses only there, now called Cooperstown. then only about ten acres of land cleared - then marched down towards the Windilla River there was a good path through the woods something of a road along the river - when they got there they came to a halt, & soon one was sent for the Indians to meet them (as he understood) at the Oquago - Brant was there with from two to three hundred Indians Genl. Askinine & Col. Cox after they had fired upon a tree, and Brant & they had a talk. Neither party were allowed to bring guns to the place where they were talking, there was a place covered for them to talk under, & a place for a table - there was men stationed out to keep guard. & the Indians had seats made of boards under the trees that they sat on, but without arms - Genl. Askinine & Col. Brant talked a while, then Col. Cox spoke & said down here & let him go - Brant mentioned the Indians to his men who

were close by - they all at once sprang up & shouted, patting their hands on their throats as they halted - and then ran off - and directly they heard them firing off their pieces - Genl Askinun took Brant by the arms & told him not to mind what Cox said, that they were old neighbors & ought not to be killing each other blood &c. Askinun talked very nice to him - Brant was moderate too - The day before this public meeting Genl. Askinun & Brant had talked a good deal together about the business - understood there was a treaty made & that Brant would come back & live on the River again - they returned the same way as far as Okeo, then Col. Bellinger's Regiment went home by a place called the Buttermots as he understood - and Deponte Regt. commanded by Col. Cox went home by the way of Okeo Lake & Cherry Valley - that they were gone in all the time about seven or eight days - when they again done duty on guard as before & on scouts whenever required, which was pretty often - That the next call was that they should go to Askinun, this was in August according to his best recollection & in the year 1777. the same year that they went to Unadilla - the whole Regiment was called out, & they marched up to Askinun, and stoped at Fort Dayton, it was said that Genl. Arnold was coming up the River with some troops, & Genl. Askinun kept them here some days to get his men together & waiting for Arnold to come up - But they marched West before Genl. Arnold came, as the Committee would not wait any longer - first day they went a little above the Gansevoort settlement right or the mile from Fort Dayton where they arrived

all night. Next day went as far as Oriskany where they slept one night & Genl. Herkimer then wanted to stay until Arnold came up. They however started in the morning to go to Fort Stanwix and had not gone far, as early as eight or nine in the morning the battle began with the Indians. DePeyster's company was then there about in the center of the Detachment. They stood their ground a little while about half an hour when he lost sight of most of his officers saw one of them going back & then he did, one of Christopher Ekler he recollects was close by him & they retreated together until they got out of the swamp, then they ran pretty fast until they got over the River on the North side. And they then came to Fort Dayton where they remained about one day & then they went home. DePeyster was engaged in quarreling for his brother I could hear nothing of him & went home to see if he was there - but learned afterwards that he had been killed in the battle and  and  that  that  he  he  was  was  one  one of his company. DePeyster was home but a day or two, when he was called out again & it was said Genl. Arnold had arrived at Fort Dayton - & they marched up the river again back as far as Dyker's Tavern at Little Falls Hill where the Regiment was to meet again - and here they learned that the enemy had all gone back and left Fort Stanwix - and they were dismissed again - that they were out in all this time as much as two weeks. That the remainder of this Summer DePeyster was on duty from time to time as above mentioned in keeping guard and in various scouts about the country - and he thinks he done duty that year in all about four months, as it was as late as Christmas before they were discharged -

And this Deponent further says, that during the fall of the same year 1877. and he thinks in September or October, he marched under one Capt. Seber, who was adjutant of the Regiment; that part of the Company only was called out; that the Militia were to assemble at Schenectady. That the object was to reinforce the American Army at Saratoga or Stillwater. That Deponent became sick with the Rheumatism before he got to Schenectady & was left behind. & in a day or two returned home that he heard that the Militia did not get to Stillwater until after the battle was over. That he was almost about a week at this time.
And the Deponent further says, that in the early part of the year 1878. he was employed most of the time in doing duty in the Forts & going on scouting parties as he was required by his officers, being still under the command of Capt. Cushman - that in May as near as he can now recollect, he was called upon to go to Cherry Valley with his Company, that Cushman was with the Company, there was Capt. Lipe's Company being the same Company formerly commanded by Capt. Crowe who was killed at Bunker's - There was another Company commanded by Capt. Jacob Diewendorf that Army Diewendorf the former Capt. was also killed at Bunker's & Jacob the Lieut. was made Capt. These three Companies he recollects of were together at that time Col. Clyde had command of the detachment - arrived at Cherry Valley the first day, staid there one night & then next day sent out a party scouting while they were there - then went to Springfield & there staid one night & then marched home again.

thinks on this expedition they must have been absent five or six days before they got home That after this he was called out to stand guard at Fort Walradt. That there was no Officer then higher than an Ensign & the one in this Fort was named Army Walradt. They the first employed in building the Fort and spent all most the whole of the summer in that Fort doing duty as a guard and once in a while on a scouting party - that he was obliged to do duty either at Fort Walradt or at Fort Plank, that Col. Clyde had command of all these Forts in the beat of his Regiment, Capt. Ropeman was at Fort Plank most of the time, his family lived about two miles from there when he was not at the Fort, Lieut. Howe had the command - that he done duty until the snow fell in the fall - That some- time in this year but he can not say exactly when, he was out at Cherry Valley again with a part of the company, Adjt. Huber was along, and Peter Wormouth was killed by the Indians, & Peter Litts was taken prisoner, these men went on a scout from Fort Plank to the Village of Cherry Valley - thinks it was in the summer, it was before the burning of Cherry Valley - In the same year also Depoull was at Harkness under Capt. Brown who was from Suburb Durlock - that they were either on scouts or on guard on the beat road, at Fort Dayton - thinks he was there about two weeks or perhaps three - when he returned he was at Fort Plank - that while he was on scouts this year he recollects of going out to the Salt Springs three times, went over the Seneca Creek two or three times in the course of that summer & fall - thinks he was out more than four months on duty -

And this Deponent further says, that in the year 1779. he was also employed in doing duty in these Forts as in the preceding year, that he was still in the same company commanded as aforesaid - that the first time they went out that year that he can now recollect, the Col. called out the whole Regiment, to go to Fort Hokinuns a distance of about twenty eight miles - and remained at that place about two or three weeks, that the principal duty was keeping guard and going out on scouts once in a while - then went back to Fort Wabash. that the same year they went out to Palatine, this was in the latter part of the summer, early part of the company went out - I was gone about a week before they got back - that in having time of that year four Indians made prisoners of one Orra Dary who was carried off by them, twenty or thirty men of whom this Deponent was one went in pursuit, & over took the Indians & found that Dary was killed, they did not kill any Indians or make any prisoners - it was said that Brandt was among them, & that he was wounded in the foot. That in the month of September & October they went marched up again where to Hokinuns, Fort Dayton, under command of Capt. Brown they staid in the fort at that time about two weeks - this was the second time he was at Fort Dayton under this Capt. Brown that part of the company only was out that at the end of two weeks they returned to Wabash, but were not had to go to Fort Stanwix to guard some boats under command of Capt. Brown. went to Fort Stanwix & remained there until the boats were unloaded - & the Boats brought back some Indians.

that before he returned he was gone about four weeks, that it was cold at weather when they returned home late in the fall - that in weeks this year he done duty about five months & that he was actually employed & under arms that length of time -
And this Deponent further says that in the year 1780. he was again under the same officers doing about the same kind of duty, i.e. on guard as a soldier in the Fort, or on some Indian trail as a spy or scout, as in the former years, that he was in Fort Plank part of the time & part of the time in Fort Elyto & sometimes in Fort Bary. That in the month of July or early in August was marched from Fort Plank to Fort Kerkimer and up to Fort Stawix, that the Col. was out with the whole Regiment, Col. Loggours Regiment was also out & he believes Col. Bellingers Regiment - that Genl. Van Brussel was in command of these troops. Deponent did not see him until they come at Fort inner - They all marched up to Fort Stawix when they remained until the boats were unloaded, that there were a great many goods come up the river on boats when Van Brussel came up - that when he arrived at the Fort they were saluted from the Forts by a great many guns, & the whole line cheered - Col. Elyto commanded the Regt. & Peter Dygert was a Major at that time - that he was gone on this occasion about twelve or fourteen days - when they got back to Kerkimer they heard that the Indians were burning off the country below in the neighborhood of Fort Nane & Fort Plank, destroying the whole settlement, killed a great many and took many women & children Prisoners.

That each man hurried back as fast as he could without reference to any order, each one anxious to see what had become of his family and friends. Fort Loudout was burned & Depont's & Clothes were burned & his horses killed by the enemy, that his brother in law kept these horses by the Fort & worked a farm about a quarter of a mile off - that Depont was then carried put in Fort Plank when he done duty the rest of the season except when he was out on scouting parties - that in the fall of the same year, Sir John Johnson came up the North side of the Mohawk River with a large body of Indians and Tories and destroyed the greater part of the Country, that the whole Militia of the Country were called out under Genl. Van Rensselaer except those who were left to guard the Forts and old men unable to do duty - that Depont was left at home to do duty in the Fort where he then was, and continued to do duty until late in the fall of that year - except when he was out on scouts - that he thinks in this year he done duty more than four months -

That he recollects that one Miller was killed by the Indians in this year, & his father wounded in the arm close by Fort Wm. Lockhart, that Deponent & others were called out in pursuit & after they returned Deponent was stationed at Fort Wm. Lockhart about - that in the course of the work or so, there were two men killed by the Indians, Woolover & Carson, and Deponent was again called out as a scout, in pursuit of the Indians - that it was a grouse for a person to be out of the Forts as the Indians were always on the look out & lurking about -
And this Deponent further says, that a man by the name of John Ecker enlisted in Capt. Putnam's Company in Col. Willett's Brigade of "New York State" so called, that the man got tired and was very anxious to get a substitute - and Deponent enlisted in his place as a substitute that he was in the mouth of June & he served in this Company until the mouth of December when he was discharged about Christmas, at Fort Plank in the County of Payette aforesaid - that he did not receive any discharge -

That the first service he done after his enlist- ment was service in the Fort, standing guard, & doing substantially the same duty that he done in the Militia service in the preceding year - that he was sometimes in one of these Forts & sometimes in another - that in the year he was out at a place called Fairlock under the Col. of the Regiment, Mannas Willett, it was said that the Indians had been plundering cattle, horses, sheep &c. and they were collected in that place - that the first time they went out there was 20 or 25 men, they could not find the cattle, & after remaining one night they returned again to Fort Clark. They got back in the afternoon, & before night they had orders to assemble at Fort Plain where the whole Regiment got together, and a number of Militia who volunteered, they started that night in the dark, and proceeded to Fort Clyde, then to Brownus Creek, that when they got to Fairlock it was day light, that the men were put in order in two lines, that some men were sent for- ward & sent. Simultaneous with them to draw out the enemy, which they succeeded in doing, & then retreated and had them in between their two lines of men who fired upon them with great effect - the Indians retreated and Col Willett & his men kept the ground - that they tried to find the Indians but could not - & then retreated or marched back again - one Capt. McEwen was wounded, the soldiers brought him out & he afterwards died of his wounds - one Bellinger was also killed, Casper Keer was also killed there and some wounded —

That they were out about two days & one night. And remained in the Forts on duty as before and going on scouts until in the fall of the year she thinks in the month of October when Major Prof. Walter Butler was said to be at Johnson's, when the Col. ordered his Regiment out again & the Militia all turned out again to meet the enemy, when they got there the enemy was prepared for battle & an engagement took place which commenced in the woods, our men then retreated in the open fields, the new levies retreated until the Militia came up when they rallied. The Americans lost a field piece then retook it - And at length the enemy gave way again, when the field piece was taken Rev. Col. Willett laid his hand on it & said "hurrah for Lady Washington" - it was a brass 6 - the enemy retreated up the country towards the heads of the Canada Creeks on the hills above the river - the troops under Col. Willett came up the river. Maj. Copenman was also along with his Militia; he behaved well at Johnson's - The Americans came up as far as a Forkman, then went up the Canada creek, and staid in the Woods one night, and then followed on again until they came up with them at the Canada place where two roads came together, here there was some firing, one Artillery man on the American side was killed, & some prisoners were taken from the enemy - General was not present when Butler was killed - when he came up, a man on the other side of the river was holding up his commission & waving it - said he had Butler's commission

that after this they all returned home, going back by the way of Pottsyvania back to Skulls back - They had some prisoners with them - they were two days without any provisions, the Inhabitants then met them & sent them some provisions - they took the Prisoners to Fort Plain & then delivered them to Col. Willet who sent them below - that he done duty until the month of December & about Christmas - that he done once month's duty before he returned into Willet's Regiment & did duty in that Regiment, about six months or more -
And this Deponent further says that in the next year which was 1782. he continued to do duty as before in the Militia company under Capt. Arose doing duty in the Forts & going out on Scouts from time to time - during all that summer, & in the winter they were not obliged to mount guard, that this year they were not much troubled with the Indians or Tories - and that he did not do over three months duty in that year -
And this Deponent further says that in the next year 1783 he did not do any service at all, the war having been consid- ered as ended - That this Deponent was engaged in the battle of Oriskany, Johnstown & Burlock - that he never had any written discharge -
And to the several questions put by the Court this Deponent says -
That he was born in the town of Can- Johann, in the year 1757,

That he has a record of his age kept by his father in a large dictat o bible with wife Clapp's now in his possession —
That he resided at the commencement of his services at Bangorham in the then County of Fyow, and has resided since the war a few years in the same town, then moved five or six miles which by the division of towns & counties has made him now in the town of Danube in the County of Herkimer where he at present resides —
That he was in the Militia & ordered out, sometimes Volunteered — & once a substitute for one John Ecken — that he done duty & was acquainted with Mannus Willett — has seen Col. Greenwood — & Col. Renier who was one writer at Fort Plank — That he never rec d . a discharge from the service —
That he is acquainted with no clergyman who can testify to his character & that Asaph Root & Richard Shindell of Stark can prove the same & can testify to his character — & that he thinks he can prove his services by Jacob A. Young or a part of them —
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any agency in any state —
Sworn to & subscribed the day & year aforesaid
in Open Court
Jedidiah C. Nelson Clerk
John X Duler mark

State of New York Herkimer County ss. Henry Ellwood of the town of Danube in said County and William Davy of the same place being duly sworn each for themselves doth de- pose and say that he was acquainted with Catharine Seesler formerly the wife of John Seesler of the town of Danube aforesaid now deceased and that she the said Catharine Seesler died on or about the nineteenth day of July in the year one thousand eight hundred forty-one at the town of Minden in the County of Montgomery and State aforesaid and that these deponents were present and attended the funeral of the said Catha- rine Seesler. That at the time of her death she the said Catharine left the following children her surviving and who are still living Andrew Seesler now of Liverpool Onondaga County; Mary Matthias wife Jacob Matthias now of Minden Montgomery County; John Seesler Jr. now of the same place; William Seesler now of Danube Herkimer County; Margaret Wiley widow of Isaiah Wiley Jr. of Minden aforesaid; Rosanna Burlingame wife of Nathaniel Burlingame now at late of the State of Pennsylvania; and Daniel Seesler now of the City of Albany as these deponents are informed and justly believe to be true and further these de- ponents say not.
Subscribed and sworn to this 11 th day of May A. D. 1844 Before me.
Henry Ellwood William Davy
James Green Justice of the peace.

Hickman County Clerks Office
I Edwin A. Muncaster Clerk of the County aforesaid do hereby certify that James Green as the Justice of the Peace before whom the within affidavit was taken was at the time of the taking of the said affidavit a Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid duly elected & qualified and authorized to perform the duties of said office and further that the signature of the said James Green to the Oath of the said affidavit is genuine in testimony whereof I have here unto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County this 25th day of May 1844. —
E. A. Muncaster Clerk

State of New York } Be it known that before me Montgomery County } Walsten Mayn a Notary Public duly authorized by law to administer oaths within and for the County aforesaid personally appeared William Duesler a resident of the town of Danube in the County & State aforesaid County of Herkimer in the State aforesaid who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath depose & say that his father John Duesler deceased State of said town of Danube & County of Herkimer & State of New York was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States under act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832 at the rate of Eighty dollars per annum and after his death his widow Catharine Duesler applied for a pension under act of July 7 th 1838 & was allowed one at a less rate than was allowed her husband the said John Duesler and that after her death application was made in behalf of her surviving children & an increase was allowed to about forty dollars per annum I do now make this declaration for the purpose of having the pension of said Catharine Duesler increased to the full amount allowed her husband the said John Duesler under the benefit of the joint Resolution of Congress passed July first 1848
Known to & subscribed before me this twenty fifth day of June A.D. 1851
Wm Duesler
W Mayn Notary Public

22641
John Duesler Herkimer co New York.
copying c. j. j.
Vol 3. p 22 - no 24 aug 1782 20 - 21 " 2. 15 "
James B. Hunt Herkimer New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
May 30 th
1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of John Deesler, of Berkhimer co New York
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     called out 1776 3 private Capt Copherman Col Con Col. Con Fort Hartwick 75 tradition   do. 1777 4 Lieut Raser Col. Con Johnstown Troy   do. 1779 4 Capt Copherman Col. Blyde Oriskany Middletown N.Y.   do. 1779 5 same Col. Bellinghausen Oriskany Fort Schuyler Witness, proves applicant was in service each year he has declared; but not how long.   do. 1780 4 Capt Copherman Col. Blyde Oriskany Fort Schuyler   enlisted for John Deesler 1781 6 Capt House Col. Miller Oriskany Fort Schuyler   dis duty 1782 3 do  
1 - 1 - 24 days
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
 6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it?  { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
 7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payment can be made on account of the services of any person who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
No service can be taken into the computation of a pension which is not definitely recited as it regards period term & grade of each service
Approved

Wm 3504
Catharine Deuster
Widow of John Deuster
who was a pensioner under the Act of 7. June 1832 and who died on the 17. July 1836 of Montgomery, Co. in the State of N. York who was a Private in the company commanded by Captain Putnam of the reg't commanded by Col. Willett in the N. York line for 6 months
Inscribed on the Roll of Wm at the rate of 20 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836. 17. July
Certificate of Pension issued the 16 th day of July, 1839 and sent to I. F. Saccá Canajoharie, N. Y.
Arrears to the 4th of March '39 52.69 Semi-annual allowance ending 4 Sept. 10.00
$ 62.69
{ Act July 7, } 1838. }
Recorded by D. Brown Clerk
Vol. 2 Page 74
Letter to Hon P. J. Wagner 7. Jan. 1840 to same 2. June 1840
Let. to same July 20 1840
Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 8 th April 1838 from 4 th Sept 1839 to 4 th March 1840. Agt. notified 22 nd April 1841
Let. to Hon. K. L. Barnard Aug. 18 th 1841: do. to same Feb. 23. 1844.

Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 16244
Catharine Dusler or Densler Widow of John Dusler or Densler Prvt. Reg. Wis.
Act July 7 th 1835
Index: Vol. 2 , Page 210
[Arrangement of 1870.]

V N. York Catharine Duesler lit. to D. Lucia B. June 1839
Act July 1838

Catharine Deusler
increase to $400 per ann.
17 July 1836 to 17 July 1841
when she died. Payable to
her children Andrew
Deusler, Mary Matthice,
John Deusler jun o . William
Deusler, Margaret Wilcox,
Roxanna Burlingame, &
Daniel Deusler.
Washington City
Penns
Pa
P
beq t to M s . Benton Little Falls N. York

Albany
John Duerler on note out July  June 1832 to what time June 3
VL
John Hany Esq
Same to him since 17 July 1836
Due 17 July 1836 p t that period 214

Department of the Interior
PENSION OFFICE,
Aug 26, 1875.
Sir,
To aid in tracing the claim referred to in these papers, they should be returned to this Office with the number of the claim inserted here it was returned Or, if the number is unknown, answers should, if possible, be given upon the blank lines below to the following interrogatories:
1st. What is the claimant's full name?
Katharine Duesler
2d. What was the soldier's full name?
John Duesler
3d. What was his company and regiment?
Cap! Diefendorf Bct I do not know the regiment
4th. When or about when did he die?
July 1836
5th. When or about when was the claim filed?
In 1834
6th. If pension has been paid, at what agency?
at Albany & Hoosickner & Hoosickner Co
Any communication heretofore received from this Office relative to the claim should also be returned.
Very respectfully,
H. M. Atkinson
Commissioner.
Daniel Duesler,
"303 West 20th Street,
New York City,
N.Y.

To Daniel Duerler Sammonville, NY March 23 1888
In answer to yours of the 17 th inst claiming an increase of the pension which was allowed to Catharine, widow of John Duerler who was a Revy Soldier you are advised that there has been no change in the laws relating to this class of pension, since the correspondence with you in 1874 & 1875 when the matter was fully explained.
There is no law existing that will give to the children or other heirs, the right to claim a pension or increase of pension, after the decease of the party who would have been entitled.

Conwayshire Jan. 2. 1839
Hon J. L. Edwards
Sir
Enclosed I send you papers of Catherine Lewis of her husband for a pension under the act of 1838 - The Russian certificate is probably in your possession as it was no doubt annexed to the papers on which the back pay was drawn - at all events you have the means of telling whether whether her husband was a pensioner or not - Yours truly
D. F. Lewis

4331
Jan 8 1839.
Catharine Jewell
NY 1839

In G 80
(No. 23.)
Department of the Interior,
PENSION OFFICE,
WIDOWS' DIVISION,
Washington, Decem 21, 1873.
Respectfully returned for the number of the certificate and the name and service of the soldier
W. Dockey Acting Commissioner
D. Duesler 2444 8 th Av. New York
Mark 2 Jan 30, 1874.
Respectfully returned to the Commissioner with the in- closed letter of Mr. Duesler and asking to be informed if it is not possible to get the pension in this case without the No o of the Certificate Please return the enclosure.
Lyman Newman at the Arlington House

Free Maria P. W. Canajoharie
Inat- July 15 John L. Edwards Pomona Com.
Washington D.C.
Dudley

John L. Edwards Esq
Canajoharie July 10. 1839-
Dr Sir
We have rec d Yours of June 3 d stating that on examining the papers of John Duesler dec d to entitle his widow to a pension it is found that he was allowed too much according to the Evidence & that you can now allow the widow for only six months - She will of course take what she can get for in her impoverished condition a little will help her - Still she & her friends think it rather singular that any deduction of pension should now be made - they had supposed that the former allowance would be conclusive - Yet you may send me a certificate for such time as may appear to be right -
I sent you papers in behalf of the Widow Grampus - You sent me for answer that you circled the main witness to give a more detailed account of the pension - which I procured in his own words I sent you, since which I have heard nothing from that case - I considered that a very strong case one in which I had supposed there could be no possible doubt - will you please let me hear from you -
Yours truly
D. F. Davis

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz:
   4 th Dec 1779 John Dusler Priv £ 3 11 1   5 th Dec Do John Dusler Do 1 10 1   1 st Nov 1780 John Puslaer Do 11 2 2   11 th Nov Do John Pusler Corpl 1 8 11   30 th Nov 1781 John Pusler Priv 9 8 5   21 st Nov 1782 John Dusler Do 4 16 0  
STATE OF NEW YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, Mar 14 th 1844.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 1. 3. & 5 — now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz:
   First—under Capt. Jacob Dipendorp in Col. Sam l Clyde Regt.   Second " " Joseph House " " " Do "   Third " " Jacob Dipendorp " " " Do "   Fourth " " St d Peter Martin " " " Do "   Fifth, " " Garet Putman " " " Marcus Willett "   Sixth " " Joseph House " " " Peter Yates "   Seventh " " " " " "   Eighth " " " " " "   Ninth " " " " " "   Tenth " " " " " "  
Philip Kelso Deputy Comptroller
for 504 pms

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th day of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
  1781 Nov 30 4117 John Fuske Pr 9 8 5   1779 Dec 4 10745 John Daupler " 3 11 1   1780 Nov 1 10816 John Fuselaer " 11 2 2   24   $60.20 
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, August 11 1841. }
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. — 1 & 3 — now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
First—under Capt. Garret Putman in Col. (D th Gen l Marinus Willett Regiment. Second, " " Jacob Defendorf " " Lt Sam d Clyde " " Third, " " Jacob Defendorf " " Lt Sam d Clyde " Fourth, " " " " " " Fifth, " " " " " " Sixth, " " " " " " Seventh, " " " " " " Eighth, " " " " " "
M. W. Ludway Sup d Compt r

State of New York Arshimer County } ss; Personally appeared before me the Undersigned, a Justice of the Peace of the county of Arshimer, John Durst who being duly sworn deposeth and says, that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he can not swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recol- lection he served not less than the periods mentioned below and in the following grades. That this Deponent was a private in Capt. Abraham Coshman's Company in Col. Cox's Regiment of Infantry of the Militia of the State of New York, in the year 1776, that there was no particular time for which he was engaged being subject to be called upon whenever the exigency of the country required it - that he would be gone on different excursions in the then county of Onondaga, now the coun- ties of Onondaga, Arshimer and Onondaga show much more territory this Deponent can not say, being then an unsettled country & the greater part thereof a wilderness, that his oper- ations were chiefly on the Mohawk River in said counties that during the year he was employed at different times from eight to ten days at a time, that they were called out by com- petent authority & served either in the field or in garrisons not less than three months in that year; and that during that time he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
And this Deponent further says that he was again called out in the year 1777. In the latter part of the month of April, or the first part of May, that he then belonged to the same Company & in the same Regiment, that the Lieutenant Brigadier was called out with part of the Company & Deponent was with them, that there was part of other companies called out at the time & Deponent thinks by draft; and sometimes during the year the whole company would be ordered out, but not for any particular time, that in some instances in that year the whole Regiment & Brigade was called out, went once down the Mohawk, and also at the Battle of Oriskany, that this Deponent was out in the year not less than four months that they were called out by competent authority & served during said time partly in the forts but most of the time in the field & that during said time was not employed in any civil pursuit.

And this Deponent further says, that in the year 1778, he again done duty in the same company under Capt. Cope. Andrew Pettat. Jacob Snyder was Lieutenant after Bicker was killed at Brisker battle, that part of the time he was under his own leadership of Capt. Divendorffs company & done duty at the Fort Upward sometimes he done duty at Fort Plank a distance of two from the other Fort miles, when he was under command of Capt. Copenman until his promotion as a Major & part of the time under Lieut. Stone who then held the command. that he was out in several occasions but most of the duty was in garrison, that he did not serve less than four months in this year, as a private in said company, that said Forts are on the Scholack River, in the present county of Montgomery in said State. that he was always called out by his officers whom he understood were commissioned & had authority to call them out, that he was with an embodied corps & done duty either in the field or in garrison & during that time was not employed in any civil pursuit.
And this Deponent further says, that in the year 1779, he again done duty as a private in the same company & Regiment, that part of the time the duty was in garrison & part of the time on scouts in various directions, on guard & doing other duty requiring of him in the then county of Ryon, that he served in an embodied corps, called out by competent authority, and during this year done not less than five months service in said company, and during that time was not employed in any civil pursuit.
And this Deponent further says, that in the year 1780, he was again called out and done duty mostly in the forts as a private in the same company, occasionally out as a scout or Indian spy in the same neighborhood as in the year before and that he was called out by his officers as before & done duty as such soldier at least four months in that year, and in that time was not employed in any other business or occupation.
And this Deponent further says that in the year 1781, he went as a substitute for one John Decker a new month man in Col. Hannes Willetts Regiment, in Capt. Gamil Dutnays company and was in the forts and out occasionally in pursuit of the enemy as before, that he continued

and dido duty in this company as a private at least six months before he was discharged, which was in the month of December, that previous to his said service as such substitute he had done duty in said year in his company as a Militia man at least one month, under the same officers as in the previous year, that he was this year employed in the same country and neighborhood as before, and that during said time he was not engaged in any civil pursuit.
And this Deponent, further says, that in the year 1782. he was again in his old company under the same officers & done duty in the fort & on scout when called up, that he was actually employed in said duty not less than three months in this year & that during said time he was not engaged in any civil pursuit.
And this Deponent further says, that he was a private during the whole of said time, done the duty above stated and almost during the whole war, without pay and frequently without provisions & without the means of obtaining it for the most part of the time - that occasionally they had provisions said to be furnished by the state, and sometimes the persons in their neighborhood would furnish provisions - that all of said service was in an embodied corps, called out by competent authority & during said time deponent was not engaged in any civil pursuit - that the whole term of his service was two years and six months as a private, and for such service I claim a pension -
Sworn & subscribed this 6 th day of July 1833. before me
Nicholas Smith Justice
John T. Duesler mark
State of New York Columbia County
I Francis E. Skinner Deputy Clerk of the County of Columbia do hereby certify that Nicholas Smith before whom the foregoing affidavit purports to have been sworn was on the day of the date thereof One of the Justices of

the peace in and for the said County of Heartleian duly qualified to act as such justice And that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice & verily believe the signature "Nicholas Smith" thereto subscribed to be genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal this Sixth day of July in the year 1833 —
J. E. Pinner J.P. Clerk

John Duerler
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Pension application of John Duerler
Jacob
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We John Rotte - residing in the town of Starkes and Richard Schirmer residing in the same town, hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with John Dusen who has subscribed and sworn to the above Declaration, that we believe him to be seventy five years of age, that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion -
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid -
in Open Court
Julius C. Nelson Clerk
John Rotte
Richard Schirmer
And the said court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War Department, that the above applicant was a Revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that John Rotte and Richard Schirmer who have signed the preceding certificate are residents in the said town of Starkes in the county of Franklin, and that they are credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I Julius C. Nelson Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Dusen for a Pension. In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office This twelfth day of February 1833 Julius C. Nelson Clerk

Affidavit of Jacob A. Young -

X State of New York Herkimer County 3 d : On this twenty day of Febua- ry
one thousand eight hundred and thirty three - before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Herkimer personally appeared Jacob A. Young of the town of Stark in the county of Herkimer, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath depose and say, that he is seventy seven years of age on the sixth day of April last past - that he is personally acquainted with John Dresher of the town of (Daneb)  Daneb in said county, that he was acquainted with him previous to the Revolutionary war and has resided most of the time in the same town and county & always within a few miles of him - that the first time he recollects of seeing the said John Dresher in service was when they were at Caghnawaga in January 1776. that Dresher was then in Capt. Eekles Company in Col. Peter Bellinger Regiment - that the said John Dresher was in Capt. Copermans Company in Col. Cox's Regiment, both of these Regiments were under Genl. Herkimer Brigade - that said Dresher was then with his company on duty as a Soldier -
And this Deponent further says, that in the following year 1777. he recollects of again seeing the said Dresher doing duty as a Soldier in the same company under Capt. Coperman in Col. Cox's Regiment - that Dresher was then in Christopher Fox Company in Col. Peter Wagoners Regiment, they then were under Genl. Herkimer when he went down the Mohawk River to make a treaty with Brandt Brant & his Indians.

And this Deponent further says, that he was not at the Battle of Oriskany, as his company was sent back when they had marched up as far as Fort Dayton, to repel a supposed attack of the in- dians - but Deponent has been informed & has al- ways understood that the said John Bruler was in the battle at Oriskany - And this Deponent fur- ther says, that the next time he recollects of seeing the said Bruler in the service was, when Genl. Van Rensselaer called out the Militia and took them to Fort Stanwix, that Deponent was then in Lieut. Wrideckers company. I guess the capt. was taking the command or doing any of the business of the company - the Col. Oliver Clyde was the col. of the Regiment after col. Cox was killed - that the said Bruler was still in capt. Coppersons company in the same Regiment - : this was in the year 1780. according to his best recollection - that he saw the said Bruler again at Fort Dayton & Deponent said Bruler went up under one capt. Brown to Fort Stanwix to guard some boats loaded with provisions - that he recollects also of seeing him in the year 1781. at the Battle of Redbank under Col. Marmus Willett - that Deponent was in col. Clydes Regiment, but went out there as a Volunteer
And Deponent further says that he saw the said Bruler often in the Forts Plank & Wridecker, that he had a sister at Fort Wridecker that he used to come and see very often, and that during the whole time Deponent believes he was in the service as a Militia man during the whole war, and doing the same duty that all of them had to do in that

Savage warfare - That the said John has always been reputed as such soldier, and that Deponent believes that the said John Dwyer, swore during said war as he has stated in his declaration - and further that Deponent says not -
Sworn & subscribed the day & year above mentioned - in Open Court
Julius C. Nelson Clerk
Heob his X A. Young mark
I do hereby certify, that I am acquainted with Jacob A. Young, and that he sustains a fair & Character for truth and veracity, and that his statements are entitled to full credit -
Julius C. Nelson Clerk.

New York, June 9 th , 1875,
I wish to call your attention again to my Father's, John Duesler's pension. In your letter of Jan. 31 st 1874 you say, it appears he was enrolled on the New York Militia liable to be called as necessity required etc. to garrison forts erected on the frontier, for periods of 8.-10. or more days, but the evidence of the length of service was vague and unsatisfactory to sustain the claim. You may have Books at Washington which are not at the Controller's office, of the early part of the war, when Sir William Johnson with the Indians and Tories were very active and it called all the true and loyal men to be enrolled and be ready at a minutes notice. In the first place all were minute men, my Father among them. The first enrollment of my Father in Book No. 3 in Captain Dufendorf's company where he received

his first pay, date Dec. 4 th 1779. three or four years after the beginning of the War from the pay book as follows:
Book No. 3, page 17. Dec. 4 th 1779 Cash 3. 11. 1.
" " 18 Nov. 1 st 1780 " 11. 2. 2.
" " 20 July 10. 1782 1. 10. 1.
Captain Copeman 20 Nov. 21. 1782 4. 16. 0.
By consulting these records you will perceive that his services were not "vague and unsatisfactory to sustain his claim," and are "evidence of the service which would warrant his widow in claiming and entitled her to receive his pension. And that he had more than two years service. I did not ask the Controller for another certificate as I had already forwarded one to Washington though I can get another certificate if required. Now the question is, was my Father entitled to a full pension, or did he get it by fraud and false swearing by some of the old patriots of the Revolution. I appeal to you that justice may be done, and that stigma upon my Father long and honorable life. I again urge with

this view that the back pension be allowed to his heirs.
Hon. James H. Baker, Chair. of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Truly Yours Daniel Duesler 303 W. 20 th St. New York.

Elyria Lorain Co. Ohio July 16 th 1851
Sir
Enclosed you have an application for an increase to the pension of Catharine Guesler deceased late of Herkimer county New York. It should seem that in accordance with the acts of Congress passed May 7 th 1846 & July 1 st 1848 the claim is valid. This is the second application, the first having been made prior to the passage of either of said acts.
I am very Respectfully Yours
B. B. Chapman
Hon. Com d of Pensions Washington City D. C.

PENSION JUN 18 1888 OFFICE

LAW OFFICE, ROBERT G. INGERSOLL, 40 WALL STREET,
NEW YORK, June 9 th 1888
Hon. John C. Black, Comm'r of Pensions. Washington, D.C.
My dear General:
I enclose you two letters — one of Jany 31, 1874, by Butler, Commissioner, and one by yourself, Mch 23, 1888,
These letters seem to be to the question as to whether there can be any increase of pension. That is not the question. The question here, is, whether the son of the original pensioner is entitled to the pension at the rate that it was allowed to the widow. There is no desire

LAW OFFICE, ROBERT G. INGERSOLL, 40 WALL STREET,
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for an increase — no application for an increase — but simply a wish to know whether the pension can be paid to the son accord- ing to the amount allowed.
Be kind enough to return the letters with your answer, and oblige.
I have the honor to remain,
Yours very truly,
R. G. Ingersoll R.

No. of R. Aug 13 th 1841.
Sir I enclose you herewith papers just rec d by me. I understand the object to be to get the pension, allow d to the widow of John Deusler dec d , in Canada.
May I ask you to inform me of the result of your inspection of these papers
With great respect Your ob t serv t !
J. D. Barnard
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Com r of Pensions

TREASURY DEPARTMENT,
Second Comptroller's Office,
Office 12 th , 1841.
Sir :
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Catharine Scusler, — a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany N.Y. Agency, at the rate of Twenty — Dollars and — Cents per annum, under the law of the 7 th July 1838, has been paid at this Department, from the 4 th of Sept. 1839. to the 4 th March 1840.
Respectfully yours,
Wilson S. Paine
Comptroller.
To the Commissioner of Pensions,
Present.

J. L. Edwards Esq. Comr. Pensions
Little Falls N.Y. June 5 th 1844
Sir
I herewith hand you the Application of the heirs of Mrs. Catherine Seussler demand for an increase of her pension during her life which they will claim to have paid to them.
I take this occasion to say that I have examined the copy of the original declaration of the pensioner or Soldier John Seussler and the statements made in it historical and biographical and found the same with the accounts given in Campbell's history of the County of Tryon and Colo. Storer's life of Hunt, of the Revolutionary incidents which occurred in the Valley of the Mohawk and have found them to agree in a most striking and singular manner in regard to many or most of the circumstances related.
Now how could this happen with a man so illiterate as to be unable to write his name even unless the statements were founded in fact. Colo Storer's book was published after the paper was known to and Mr. Campbell's about the time or a little while before. On examining the extracts from the book in the Comptroller's office I think it pretty evident he served during the year 1781 & 1782 more than one month and

24 days and that during that period the Service approximated more of months than one month and 24 days. On the whole I think upon a re- view of the case and papers with the additional testimony you will be satisfied the said Soldier served nearly or quite a full year if not the whole period. You may if you please communicate with me in regard to this business.
I am very respectfully your obedt Servt N. S. Benton

In answer to your enquiry of the 9 th inst whether the son of John & Catharine Duerler is entitled to pension on account of the services of his father in the war of the Revolution I have to state that while the act of Congress laws authorized pensions to be paid to Revs. Soldiers & their widows during their life times, no provision was made in those laws for the benefit of their children —
There is no law existing under which a child of a Rev. Soldier can claim a pension in his right —

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New York Sept 24 1875
Sir
Yours of the 13 th is received in which you say that Catharine Truesler widow of John a revolutionary Soldier was allowed all the pension to which the evidence filed in her application entitled her, and that additional evidence submitted after the decease of the pensioner cannot be considered. In reply I wish to say that a full pension was allowed my Father during his lifetime and after his death the widow was allowed only a half pension, and on application it was increased to \frac{3}{4} . I believe there is no law for a \frac{3}{4} pension, they being either a full or half, if she was entitled to more than a half she was entitled to full pension, on this I stand and ask to set me right if I am wrong, I do not propose to offer

any new evidence but stand on that already presented and on which John Duesler's pension was granted, it seems to me a reduction of the widow pension was unjust at the time and I wish to have that corrected to which she was entitled, no new claim for additional pension, my whole endeavor in this correspondence has been to recover that amount or at least obtain satisfactory reason from your office, why the reduction was made, this I have so not been able so far to accomplish, and I must again beg that you will give me this information without evasion or shift, that I may either be satisfied, or take such other steps as the case may seem to require
Hon H. M. Atkinson Commissioner of Pensions
Respectfully yours Daniel Duesler 303 W 28 th street

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New York Sept 16 th 1878
Hon. H. M. Atkinson Pension agent. Washington Sir
I have been anxiously waiting an answer to my last letter whether the claim of Catharine Dues for widow of John Duesler for a part of her pension that was with- held during her lifetime, will be allowed or rejected at the pension office.
also will you be kind enough to return my Father's petition on which his pension was granted very respectfully
Daniel Duesler 303 West 20 th St N. York

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New York August 23 d To the pension office Washington My letter dated July 23 d 1875 asking for information as to the proper place to apply for the back pension that was due my Mother and not yet paid, which has not as yet been answered, the claim is small, yet I cannot see upon what principle it was and is still withheld, the petition of my father  which  was sent to the pension office at Washington on which he received pension, was returned to him, after his death they allowed my Mother only a half pension I sent it with other documents to the pen- sion office and it was returned to me and increased the pension but not in full, the last time the petition was sent it was retained, will you be kind enough to return it to me

at 303 west 20 th Street if any expense for postage I will pay
Most respectfully
Yours Daniel Duester

Sammonville Ky
Sammonsville March 17. 1888
Pension Office Washington In I wrote a letter about a month ago in regard a pension claim due Catharine Duesler widow of John Duesler directed to the Hon Wm F Vilas. It seems a plain case to decide, the petition was procured according to law, and filed in the pension office and he drew his salary until he died in 1836, when the widow applied was allowed only one quarter pension. In December 1839 they wrote me it should be corrected, but only raised it to 40 00 / yr per annum when I came home in 1873, ascertained these facts, I wrote to the office, why the full pension was not paid, after many letters passed but in 31 Jan y 1874 it says that John Duesler was employed to the garrison forts for 8.10 or more should spread day, as a scout, to go 5.10 or 20 miles to prevent the Tories, and Indians, from murdering and burning houses, not very pleasant for a soldier, the letter of 4 th October 1875 you will see the odium it is intended to cast on an honest, odd soldier your earliest attention is sincerely requested. Respectfully Daniel Duesler

New York Oct 10 th 1875
Sir
Your letter of the 24 th you bring forth new issues of which I know nothing of, very likely, that cow boys & Tories managed through dishonest agents and false swearing procured pensions, My Father employed the Hon. Michael Hoffman whose integrity is unquestioned, In 1839 when I sent my Father's petition to the pension office for an increase of my Mother's pension, then should have been the time to inform the widow if any doubt existed, Please return my Father's petition in your office, and if you could send me the laws of 1832 on pensions, and like to know what the soldiers pay was, would save me some trouble and better enable me what course to take in the future
Hon Wm. Alkerson { Daniel Duer commissioner of } 303 W 20 th st. pensions Washington

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New York July 23 rd 1875 Sir Your letter of the 16 th inst was received. You say that the reason the widow did not receive the same rate of pension was fully stated in a former communica- tion, that was an error, if you refer to your letter of Jan y 31 st 1874 in which you say, it appears that the husband had only done gar- rison duty of 8, 10 or more days. My letter of June 9 th 1875 refutes by the document from the com- ptroller's office, My Father procured his pension, and received it during his lifetime, when all the witnesses were living, after his death they allowed my Mother only a half pension when I wrote to the pension office they increased it, but not to the

amount she was entitled to according to law, this was certainly strange, I am informed that you have the power to correct any error in payment of pensions, this induced me to appeal to you, if my information is wrong, please inform me who has that power, that I may apply to him, above all I want to know the reason why the widow's pension was reduced, the claim being just very respectfully
Daniel Fuester
Hon. F. M. Atkinson Commissioner Washington D. C.

New York Oct 15 th 1875 Hon. H. M. Atkinson Sir I do not see how I can add any more to this time that would straighten the claim, if I should give you additional account of the numerous services during the years of 1775 & 1776 and in 1777 under General Herkimer at the hard fought battle of Oriskany and at Saratoga, of the surrender of Gen. Burgoyne the books to 1779 being destroyed about 1800 I claim that part of the pension that was with held from my Mother which is due and for her claim Most Respectfully Dan l Duester
M c E 45 (WIDOWS' DIVISION.) Department of the Interior, PENSION OFFICE, Sept 20 th , 1875. Sir:
To aid in tracing the claim referred to in these papers, they should be returned to this Office with the number of the claim inserted here the number is unknown . Or, if the number is unknown, answers should, if possible, be given upon the blank lines below to the following interrogatories:
 1st. What is the claimant's full name? Catharine Duester  2d. What was the soldier's full name? John Duester  3d. What was his company and regiment? capt Susquehanna Vol. Militia Regiment  4th. When or about when did he die? in July 1836  5th. When or about when was the claim filed? I do not know. in 1833 or 1834  6th. If pension has been paid, at what agency? I do not know when first paid but last part at Herkimer, Herkimer Co. 
Any communication heretofore received from this Office relative to the claim should also be returned.
Very respectfully, H. M. Atkinson Commissioner. Dan l Duester 303 N 20 th St N.Y.