Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 30,395, John Edgar, Penn.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Pen
Edgar, John
S. 30,395
CONTENTS

See letter 10 April 10 to Hon Thos Chilton
R 1837 July 15 history to S L Draper Present
1923 Kentucky
John Edgar
of Winchester in the State of Kentucky who was a Private in the co comman- by Captain Wilgus of the 105th comman- by Col McCoy in the Division time for 2 years
Entered on the Roll of Kentucky at the rate of 88 Dollars — Cents per ann to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 17 day of Aug 1833 and 4 Wood Mumpfordville Arrears to the 14th of March 160.00 Pension, allowances ending 4 Sept 40.00 $200.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by J Boyd Vol. 7 Page 8

John Edgar Declaration
21032

10th Sept 1832
John Edgar Sen near 75 years
1776 in Pungat
Pennsylvania
[Faint, mostly illegible handwritten text covering the remainder of the page, likely continuing the narrative from the top of the page.]

And that the said John Edgar Senior was at the time of his death a resident of the State of New Jersey and that the said John Edgar Senior was at the time of his death a resident of the State of New Jersey and that the said John Edgar Senior was at the time of his death a resident of the State of New Jersey
he hereby relinquish any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present and he declares that he has not been on the pension roll of any agency of any state or the United States
Given under my hand this 10th day of August 1840 John Edgar
The Court examined the applicant John Edgar Senior the above named applicant upon the interrogatories proposed by the War department & to the first he answered that he was born in the State of New Jersey near Trenton his father in the year 1758 that he entered the service in Bedford County Pennsylvania - and served as stated in his declaration that he removed to North Carolina in the spring of the year 1780 and resided there about eight years and removed to the state of Kentucky and has resided there ever since and now resides in Clark County Kentucky that he was first enlisted into the service in the 8th Pennsylvania Regiment and that he does not now remember the names of the officers other than those stated in his declaration. That he never received any discharge for the reasons stated in his declaration and that Francis Smith and John Depevere are both known to him and can testify as to his character for veracity. The said Edgar further states that he does not know of any person in this County by whom he can prove his service except but that his name is on the rolls of the War Department as he is informed and believes. And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War department that the above named applicant

was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he stated And The court further certify that Frederick Smith & John Deferes farmers are the neighbors of said (2) applicant one resident in Hunt & the other in Barren County and who have signed the certificates hereto annexed bearing their names are credible persons and that their statements are entitled to credit And the Court say that it is their opinion that the statements made by said applicant are true and that he served as stated and appears to be of the age represented in his declaration
George S. Wood Clerk of the Court of that County do hereby certify that the pages containing the original proceedings of said Court, in the matter of the application of John Edgar, is a proper
testimony which I have in my hand and seal this 25 th day of November 1832 which is the 1 st year of the Common- wealth
G. S. Wood Clerk

There may have been other services rendered by him in the Revolutionary as stated in his application for a pension at a former term of the Court County Court. But in the summer of 1781 he went out as a mounted volunteer under Col Robert Holmes, Henry Reed, Captain and marched from Prince County, North Carolina after a party of Tories headed by Joseph Bryan had a hard march then through the state. They made their escape to the British Camp, upon which he immediately returned home and was very soon thereafter marched down to Col Foy's in Brunswick County Lay in Camp there some time and was then ordered to march to Long Mountain against the British & Tories commanded by Genl Ferguson there defeated them and took several prisoners & marched them over the Catawba River to the big & Little river from thence returned home. Not very soon after his return he was again called into the service and marched down to Salisbury under Charles O'Connell Col. While there and John M c Hardy Capt. joined the army under Genl Rutherford and marched down through the state & on our way defeated a party of Tories headed by Col Fanning marched on through the Natchey swamps & here one of our advanced guard was killed by the Tories. We went on to Cape Fear River at the bridge opposite the British breast works ten miles above Wilmington here we had some skirmishing with the British, lost one of our men, and whilst here got the intelligence of the surrender of Cornwallis. The British in a day or two evacuated their breastworks, went aboard

Their shells and our long body of officers of Wilmington and at the end of three months returned home The whole of the service enumerated which is not embraced in his original application is at least six months and the last three months of the time he acted as sergeant
West County Court November term 1832
John Edgar produced into court an additional statement in order to obtain the benefit of an act entitled an act supplemental to an act for the benefit of certain surviving officers and soldiers of the revolution passed 7th June 1832. To which he made oath, which was pled -
Aspy T. G. Wood Clerk

Wark City I, Mr. Withers a Justice of the Peace in and for said County of Wark do certify that the above-named George Edgar who has signed the above certificate, is a clergyman, resident in the said County of Wark and that Rev. J. Thompson who has also signed the above is a resident in the same County and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credul. April 30. 1833 — Withers J. P. W. C.

No 21032 John Edgar from Kent County Kentucky
from 1776 pinatt for yr $80
14,
G. T. Woods
G T Wood Munfreville Kentucky

BRIEF in the case of  John Edgar Sevier ( County of  of  Hend  in the State of  Kentucky  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? a court.  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 70  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days. As a     Enlisted In 17 96 Aug 3 Private Capt. Silas G. Col. McCoy  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None known.  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? West near road to Penn.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Very satisfactory.  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct. 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
G. C. Lester  Examining Clerk.

D. H. B. B. B. T. 30 95. P. P. B.
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS,
WASHINGTON, D. C., July 2, 1882.
Madam: In reply to your application of recent date, referred to this Bureau by Hon. John H. Randall, Assistant Secretary of the Interior, in which you request information concerning the military record of John Ely, a soldier of the Revolutionary War, I have the honor to state that he made application for pension on Sept. 10, 1832, at which time he was residing in Hart county, Ky., and 74 years of age, and his pension was allowed for two years' actual service as a private in the Pennsylvania Line, Revolutionary War. A part of the time he served under Capt. David Kilgore and Col. Mc Coy. He enlisted from Westmoreland county, Pa.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.
Miss Isabel H. Ely, 136 W. 2nd Street, Dayton, Ohio.

John Edgar of Hart Co Ky in Sept 1832 - Stated that he was born near Trenton Ky as he believes in 1758 & removed to North Carolina in 1780, resided there about 8 yrs. He removed to Ky where he has resided ever since. He was in the Eng of 1776 in Westmoreland & Penn for 3 yrs in the 8th Penn Key Stone Battery going to Red Bank (as he terms it, which) was at the time of the Battle of Red Bank. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded. He was in Lancaster when it arrived at Trenton where Gen McGregor's had; from the 10th to the 15th of Dec 1776. He had fights with the enemy for a part of the time. In the Spring of 1777 they had an encounter with the Eng. & they had an engagement near Red Bank where a strong party of the enemy near 300 prisoners were taken with their artillery in the Battle of Red Bank. - Soon after he was ordered to New York where he had probably a skirmish at Red Bank to the Port of New York where they spent the Winter of 1776-77. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded. - Sometimes the British forces reported to be in the vicinity of Red Bank. - Lancaster surrounded the American
He was attached to the First Maryland Battery of Gen Howe H. Howe in the Battle of Red Bank & Red Bank. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he came into the Com of Col Howe who marched to Red Bank Creek where he was wounded. He was in the Battle of Red Bank He was in a skirmish near Red Bank where he was wounded. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded. It was for some time after the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded.
In 1781 while he was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded. Red Bank where he was wounded. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded. Booker's Camp where he was wounded. He was in the Battle of Red Bank where he was wounded.

Some time in Campbell town he marched to Kratie, surrounded by officers Capt. L. de la Motte, defeated him & conducted some prisoners over the Cambodian river to the big adker river, then returned home. Soon after he was killed and his body taken by under Capt. Chai M. & Joseph M. Small Chai M. joined the Army under Gen. Rutherford, who marched down the river to the mouth of the Mekong river at Bangkok. Rutherford thru the Port of Bangkok then the French attacked the adker river guard there to Rangoon was almost in early March. Rutherford's forces was a body of about 1000 British & Indian troops & some Skirmishing took place. Rutherford took the name of the Governor of Lord Rutherford's which probably occurred in the year 1853 of these several events by going back and there is a list of Gen. Rutherford Rutherford took the name of the Governor at the end of April he returned home and during this season he sold his horses His age is stated in April 1853 to be 70 years by Square & Colgate Rutherford's
James Rutherford

30 395 Redy  INVALID.
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John Edgar His Rev. Mrs
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[Arrangement of 1870.]
July 2 96 soed pound to Isabel R Edg Dayton Ohio

Munfrance G.F.P. April 1835
(6)
Dear Sir,
I must return you the papers for John Edgar see - I hope the additional profit rate factors so soon as the case is settled on you will please notify me
Yours Respectfully George E. Wood

John Edgar Ky. Act 1832, admitted -

State of Kentucky Grant County ss
I George Wm. Clark of the County Court of the aforesaid County in Kentucky, it being a Court of record, do hereby certify that J. W. Mitchell whose name is subscribed to the above Certificate is & has been the state thereof and acting Justice of the peace in & for said County and that due faith & credit is and should be given to all his acts, as such J. W.
Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name & affixed the seal of my office the jurisdiction the 30th of Sept 1833 Witness my hand J. W. Mitchell J. P.

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of John Edgar Jr which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal?

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service?
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it?
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had?
XIV. †If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses?
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service?
XVI. ‡Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct?
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered?
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
*QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

The deposition of John Defevers sen was taken at his residence in Hart County Kentucky the 7 th day of September 1832 The deponent being of sound mind and memory but professed with bodily infirmity so much so as not to be able to attend court with any convenience being of 78 or 9 years of age & duly sworn deponeth & saith he has been acquainted with John Edgar sen 30 years or upwards, & believes him to be a man of 75 years of age & it is generally believed in the neighbourhood of John Edgar sen that he has been a revolutionary soldier & I also do believe it, & believe him to be a man of integrity this deposition was deponent was attached in the Revolutionary war to the 13 th Regiment Virginia line & from the time which John Edgar sen tells me he belonged, & facts which he states to me took place I have no doubt having full knowledge of many circumstances myself which he relates that he did belong to the 8 th Pennsylvania line, & further this deponent saith not,
his John Defevers sen more
I certify the foregoing deposition of John Defevers sen was taken before me by the deponent before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in & for Hart County Ky on the 7 th day of September 1832  1833 I also certify that I have been for some 8 or 10 years acquainted with John Defevers & believe him to be a man of truth & respectability, & also state that the above deposition was in reference of his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his  his
W. L. Garrison
State of Kentucky
Hart County ss
I George B. Ward Clerk of the County Court of the aforesaid County in Kentucky do hereby certify that the above Certificate of John Defevers is a true and correct copy of the original now on file in my office and that the same was at the time of signing the same as the

April the 20 th 1833
I certify the foregoing deposition of John Reivers was taken signed & sworn to by the deponent before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in & for Hart County Ky on the 7 th day of September 1832 1833 I also certify that I have been for some 8 or 10 years acquainted with John Reivers & believe him to be a man of truth & respectability, & also, state that the above deposition was in reference of his claimants regular service in the revolutionary war Given under my hand the day & date first above written in this certifi cate -
N. Carrin J.P.H.
State of Kentucky Hart County ss
I George T. Wood Clerk of the County Court of the aforesaid County in Kentucky do hereby certify that the above Certificate of N. Carrin is my true copy and that the same was at the time of signing the same by the said Carrin in full compliance with the provisions in & for so County duly Com- missioned and that in all his acts as such Clerk he has acted as a faithful and lawful Clerk in testimony of which I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of my office in Dan- sville this 30 th day of April 1833
William B. Crumby Clerk of Court

This day Frederick Smith personally appeared before me a justice of the peace for the county of Barren and made oath that he was well convinced that John Edgar sign. was in the service as stated above at the town of Wilmington of a three months tower and from circumstances stated by sd Edgar he has no doubt that he served as stated; but could not say certain only as to the three months tower given under my hand this 28 th day of November 1832.
B L Graves P.P.C.
I also do certify that the within named Frederick Smith is a near neighbour of mine and is a man of unimpeachable character and whose word can be taken as soon as any others both as a man of truth and veracity given under my hand this 26 th day of April 1833
B L Graves
State of Kentucky Barren county set
I William Logan Clerk of the County Court of Barren County do hereby certify that the above named Bartlett L Graves before whom the affidavit of Frederick Smith was taken on the 28 th day of November 1832 was at that time an acting Justice of the peace in and for said county that the signature thereto is in his own proper hand writing. That the Certificate thereto annexed does not bear the character of Justice he having been since that time appointed Sheriff of said County
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed the seal of said Court at my Office in Glasgow this 27 th day of April 1833
W Logan Clerk