Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 9517, John Forbes, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Forbes John or Forbus, or Forbush,
R. 9517
CONTENTS
Shippey Nancy Former widow

Declaration
In order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by any act or acts of Congress in regard to any Revolutionary Pension or services passed 4th July 1836. (3rd section)
State of New York
County of Madison ss On this second day of September 1857 before the subscriber a justice of the Peace in & for the said County of Madison duly authorized by law to administer oaths personally appeared Jacob S. Forbes a resident of the town of Seneca in said County aged Seventy nine years upwards who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by any act or acts of Congress above stated. — That he is a child of John Forbes (otherwise called Forbes or Forbes) and his wife Nancy. — That at the commencement of the Revolutionary war deponent and his said parents were living in Montgomery County New York. — That his said father John Forbes was engaged much in the service of the United States in the Revolutionary War. He was at the Battle of Oriskany. That while in service at or near a place then called Royal Grants deponent's father was taken prisoner by the enemy or Indians and was detained a prisoner for two years or more and he believes about three years — That one Pickard & others were taken prisoners at the same time. That he believes his said father John Forbes was in service in all more than four years. That he has understood from his parents that they were married on the North side of the Mohawk River a little below Little Falls (now Rockton) in what is now Herkimer County NY. That they were married by one Rosekrantz — That they stated they were married when his mother whose maiden name was Nancy House was but about fourteen years of age. — That deponent was only about fifteen years younger than his mother.
That his father the said John Forbes (otherwise called Forbes or Forbes) died about the year 1788. That at his

death he left the said Nancy Forbes, his widow who was deponents mother whose maiden name was Nancy House. That said Nancy deponents mother remained the widow of said John deponents father until about the year 1796 when she intermarried with one Sturtevant and afterwards with one Shippy. That the said Nancy the deponents said mother died on the 23 d day of February 1844 (Eighteen hundred forty four). That the said Shippy died more than thirty five years ago. That the only children of the said John Forbes the father of this deponent and his said wife Nancy are this deponent and Mary Wilson who is also living and is a resident of the town of Fenner in said County of Madison & who is seventy two years of age. That this deponent and the said Mary Wilson his sister are the only children & heirs at law of the said John Forbes.
Sworn and subscribed this 2 d day of September 1857 before me
his mark Jacob L. Forbes
STATE OF NEW-YORK, } ss. Clerk's Office, Madison County, } ss.
I, ZADOCK T. BENTLEY, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify, that Thomas D. Loomis the whose name is subscribed to the certificate of the proof or acknowledgment of the annexed instrument, and thereon written, was, at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly elected or appointed, and qualified, and authorized by the laws of said State to take the same; and that I am well acquainted with his hand-writing, and verily believe the signature to the said certificate is genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal, the 21 st day of November 1857. ZADOCK T. BENTLEY, Clerk.
He is a to be of the to write
and therefore makes his mark. Voted 2 d September 1857.
Thomas D. Loomis Justice of the Peace
Madison County ss. Mary Wilson above named being duly sworn says that she has heard the above deposition of Jacob L. Forbes her brother read and that according to her best knowledge information & belief the same is true and correct.
Subscribed & sworn this 2 d day of September 1857 before me T. D. Loomis Justice of the Peace
her mark Mary X. Wilson

death he left the said Nancy Forbes, his widow who was deponents mother & whose maiden name was Nancy House That said Nancy deponents mother remained the widow of said John deponents father until about the year 1796 when she intermarried with one Burrough and afterwards with one Shippy. That the said Nancy, the deponents said mother died on the 23 d day of February 1844 (Eighteen hundred forty four). That the said Shippy died more than thirty five years ago. That the only children of the said John Forbes, the father of this deponent and his said wife Nancy are this deponent and Mary Wilson who is also living and is a resident of the town of Fenner in said County of Madison & who is seventy two years of age. That this deponent and the said Mary Wilson his sister are the only children & heirs at law of the said John Forbes.
Sworn and subscribed this 2 d day of September 1857 before me
in Jacob L. Forbes mark
Thomas T. Loomis
Justice of the Peace
I certify that the above named affiant is a credible person and that I believe him to be of the age stated above and that he never learned to write and therefore makes his mark. Dated 2 d September 1857.
Thomas T. Loomis Justice of the Peace
Madison County ss. Mary Wilson above named being duly sworn says that she has heard the above deposition of Jacob L. Forbes her brother read and that according to her best knowledge information & belief the same is true and correct. Subscribed & sworn this 2 d day of September 1857 before me T. T. Loomis Justice of the Peace
her Mary X. Wilson mark

Nicholas Forbus was Born August 25 th 1793
Martha Forbus Was Born Au- gust 25 th 1793
George Forbus Was Born June 23 rd 1791
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John Forbus Was Born July 23 rd 1797
David Forbus Was Born July 23 rd 1797
Peggy Forbus was Born April 24 th 1800
Nancy Forbus Was Born March 2 nd 1802
Was Born December 4 th 1803
Jacob Forbus was Born Feb- ruary 22, 1804
JACOB I FORBUS was Born June 22 nd 1772, Was Married to CATHARINE His Wife April 25 th 1797
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State of New York, } Personally appeared before Madison County } ss The undersigned a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly au- thorized by law to administer oaths. Margaret Lawrence of Geneseo in said County aged fifty years & upwards who being first duly sworn according to law saith, that the old family record herewith presented, as evidence in the claim of the late widow of Nancy Shipsey - formerly wife of John Horluck, - is the old family record of John I Horluck - formerly called Horluck Horluck, whose affidavit is also forwarded to the Dept. but who has since died - that the Jacob I Horluck, named in said record as having been born in June 1772, is the identical person who executed the affidavit, on or about the 2 nd day of Sept 1851, before Thomas J. Loomis Esq Justice of the peace, - and who was a son of the late widow Nancy Shipsey, formerly the wife of John Horluck the Revolutionary soldier & prisoner, Witness P. T. Chapman Margaret X Lawrence mark Sworn and subscribed before me this 18 day of December 1851, by Margaret Lawrence whom I certify is a credible witness and who is unable to write her name Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York
Madison County Clerks Office
Esq Lorenzo D. Dana, clerk of said County hereby certify that Stephen Chapman whose genuine signature appears within, is now at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace, in & for said County duly elected & qualified and authorized by Law to administer oaths for general purposes.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & official seal this 18 th day of December 1857
Lorenzo D. Dana Clerk In Lucius P. Clark Deputy Clerk

State of New York } ss. Hannah Farber of the town of Seneca Madison County } in the County and State aforesaid being 3 } duly sworn deposes and saith that
She is forty four years of age and is the Widow of John Farber late of Seneca deceased that her said husband was the son of John Farber alias Forbush and Nancy his wife she has always understood by the family connection and all others of that day and who knew them that her husband's father was married to Nancy House by Revd Mr Ross about some years before the revolutionary war there the said John Farber alias Forbush was in the service of his country in the revolutionary war and was taken Prisoner by the enemy and held in captivity about twelve years until the close of the war, and that he learned of the death of his father and mother during his captivity and that the said John Farber alias Forbush lived with her he told together as she has always heard stated by him and the said Nancy and many others, before and after the said war, until he did leave the said Nancy his mother about the year 1787 or 1788. She the said Nancy was after married to one Conough and he died leaving her a widow again. She the said Nancy was then again married to one Henry Shippy about the year 1800 or 1801 - and he went to Canada about the year 1812 and has never been back and reports said he died in Canada leaving the said Nancy a widow and she remained such until her death which took place in the winter of 1844, and this deponent well knows that the said Nancy all the way through this affidavit named as the same identical person and no other who was the widow of the said John Forbush or Farber the father of deponent's husband
Sworn to and subscribed before me E. W. Chapman Hannah Farber the 28th day of October 1857 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace
I certify that Hannah Farber above named is entitled to full credent as a witness and the reason she did not write her name is she is old and out of the practice of writing Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York § 33 / Madison County § 34 Mary Wilson of the Town of Tanners in said County and State of America being duly sworn according to law deposes and saith that she is a child of John Forbes Alias Forbush and his wife Nancy whose maiden name was Nancy House that Deponent's said parents resided at Danube then in the County of Montgomery Now the County of Herkimer in said State at her earliest recollection that John Forbes Alias Forbush was as Deponent has always understood from him her mother and many others engaged much in the service of his Country during the revolutionary war. She has always understood from her parents and others that her said father was at the Brandywine battle under General Harkimer when he was killed that it is well known by the family and acquaintances that her said father John Forbes was taken Prisoner while in service by the enemy and detained some two or three years she understood and believed that her said father was in service and a prisoner the amount in all of near four years Deponent further saith that her said father died about the year 1788 when she was only about twelve years old her parents had three children older than herself there were two brothers and one sister to this deponent and that their oldest child if now living would be  eight four years as she was more than nine years older than this Deponent that Deponent has had access to a record of her age from her earliest recollection and that she knows or is confident she was born in the year 1776 that she has always understood from her parents that they were married by Rev W m Rosekrantz a little below what is now called Norton in the County of Herkimer State of New York as she believes in the Newtown of Danube some years before the revolutionary war; it was several years after Deponent's birth that her father John Forbes was taken Prisoner by the enemy that she understood from her father and others were taken Prisoners with her father and were all detained as such until about the close of the war that at her father's death he left the said Nancy House his widow who was Deponent's mother and the identical person he married before the commencement of the war. She after ward married one Conough in 1796 and again became a widow and afterwards married one Henry Shippy about 1801 that she said Shippy also died about 1812 and left a widow who died on the 23 rd day of Febry 1844 being about 95 years of age at the time of her death she left Jacob Forbes & this Deponent her only surviving children and each are seventy five years of age and are called Wm  Wm S. Chapman Sec. Lawrence Mary Wilson her mark before me this 27 th day of Octo r 1851
I hereby certify that Mary Wilson is a Credible Witness and that she is unable to write her name by reason of infirmity of age and that the foregoing is a true and correct copy of the original now on file in my office.
I certify that Mary Wilson above named is a Credible Witness and that she is unable to write her name by reason of infirmity of age and that the foregoing is a true and correct copy of the original now on file in my office. Dated October 27 th 1851 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

General Herkimer when he was killed that it was well known by the family and acquaintances that her said father John Forbes was taken Prisoner while in service by the enemy and detained some two or three years she understands and believes that her said father was in Lehigh and a prisoner to the amount in all of near four years, Deponent further states that her said father died about the year 1788 when she was only about twelve years old her parents had three children older than herself then in Union and two brothers and sisters to this deponent and that their eldest child of nine children was Elizabeth  now  four years as she was more than nine years older than this Deponent that Deponent has had access to a record of her age from her earliest recollections and that she knows or is confident she was born in the year 1776 that she has always understood from her parents that they were married by Rev Mr Rosebraught a little before what is now called Boston in the County of Herkimer State of New York as she believes in the November of some year before the Revolutionary War it several years after Deponent's birth that her father John Forbes was taken Prisoner by the enemy that she has understood from her father and others that she was taken Prisoner with her father and many all detained as such until about the close of the war that at her father's death he left the said Nancy House his Widow who was a deponent's Mother and the identical person he married before the commencement of the war. she after ward married one Lehigh in 1796 and again became a Widow and afterwards married one Henry Shaffy about 1801 that she said Shaffy also died about 1812 and left a Widow who died on the 23rd day of Febry 1844 being about 95 years of age at the time of her death she left Jacob Forbes this Deponent her son and only surviving child and each are seventy five years of age and are now in the City of Philadelphia Pa. her Mother's name was Mary H Wilson
I certify that Mary Wilson above named is a credible Witness and that the mark of Deponent is unable to write her name Dated October 27th 1851 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace
I certify that Mary Wilson is a credible Witness and her mark in her affidavit on this same page is entitled to full credit. The foregoing was read out of Deponent's hearing and acknowledged before me this 27th day of October 1851 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

Francis Phillips Additional Evidence
George Anthony asst.
Rev: Anthony asst.
J. A. T. Brown attys Jamesstown Chautauqua Co N.Y.

State of New York } ss Madison County }
George Anthony of Lenox in said County being duly sworn says that he is as near as he can estimate, Ninety years and upwards of age, that he has no true record of his age, and cannot tell precisely, what his age is, that the true record of his age was kept in the Church register at Fort Plain in said State and that said Church & record was burnt during the war with England and the United States and that he has no record except as above stated, but that he distinctly recollects incidents transacted during said war, and particularly recollects and saw General Herkimer and Col. Cox with the soldiers when they left home previous to the battle of Oriskery (so called) which battle deponent thinks as near as he can recollect in the year 1777, and that this deponent then drove the team of one of the baggage Wagons a portion of the way when General Herkimer started on his way with recruits for Fort Stanwix, at which time said Oriskery the battle took place; and that he deponent was well acquainted with John Forbes alias John Forbrugh as he was called at that time and knows said Forbes to be the identical person who was the husband of Nancy Shippy and that said John Forbes or Forbrugh was the husband of and Nancy Shippy lived and cohabited together during said Forbes life time and that this deponent frequently carried provisions to said Forbes during said war, and said Forbes died about the year 1788 as near as he can

STATE OF NEW-YORK, Madison County Clerk's Office, } ss.
I, W. E. Lansing Clerk of said County, and of the Courts of Record thereof, do hereby certify, that the annexed Instrument is executed and proved or acknowledged in due form, according to the laws of the State of New-York, to entitle it to be recorded therein.
Also that Marvin Keeney Esquire, before whom the same was proved or acknowledged, was, at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgement, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly elected, sworn and authorized to take the same. And I further certify, that I am well acquainted with his hand-writing, and verily believe that the signature to the said certificate of proof or acknowledgement is genuine.
In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County, this 20 th day of May A. D. 1856 Chas. S. Kennedy D.F. CLERK. (CVR abs)
Sworn and sworn to this 20 th day of May 1856 before me Marvin Keeney Justice of the Peace
Miss George F. Anthony Mark

recollect and he recollect said John Forbes was taken and held in captivity for some 3 years or upward as near as deponent recollect and the reason why he was called Hornbush was that he was of Dutch descent and it was the dutch way of pronouncing the name that the reason deponent does not write his name is he never learned to write.
Subscribed and sworn to this 7 20 th day of May 1856 before me
Marvin Keeney
Justice of the Peace
his George F. Anthony Mark

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873
am
9.517
P. O.
Nancy Shipley
Service: Formerly wid. of John Forbes
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
REJECTED
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

City of Compt. of N.Y. John Harbush—
36 Males & 18' days

" State of New York Dr. to the following persons of Col. Jacob Klocks Reg t . militia during their captivity. viz
John Harbuch. Private. from 3 d April 1780 to 21 st May 1783. is 36 months & 18 days = 53/4 pr. Mo. £105: 12: 0
Audited 16 th November 1785. "
State of New York Comptrollers Office Albany November 24 th 1851.
I certify that the above is a true extract of an original entry at page 295 Book "A. Audited Accounts," now remaining in this office.
R. C. Gill Comptroller
A. W. Lee Examining Clerk -

Nancy Shipley of Johnstown Tuckahoe Va 1836
Cash
Dear Cousin I am truly yours

Nancy Shipley John James Fox Feb 1836
FREE
Dear Cousin I am Yours Truly Yours

Washington Jany 20th 1852,
Sir,
Herewith is enclosed the application of the heirs of Nancy Shipsey, late widow of John Horles, alias John Franklin, for the benefits of the act of 4th Jany 1836,
I am, Respectfully, Your Obedt Servt, J. G. Wade

asks examination of Case Nancy Shipley with John Patnach NY '36 Susp.
A. H. Markland

Washington Oct 25 1832, Hon L Povaldo,
As the attorney for F. E. Hassler who has been employed to prosecute the claims of Mrs Wade's decd, I respectfully ask an examination of the case of Mrs Nancy Shipsey and of John Forbrink of New York Act 1836 Supt. You will find evidence of the marriage & death also evidence of the said John Forbrink decd .
Yours Respectfully J. D. Dorn
A. H. Markland

Washington D.C. Dec 26th 1882
Hon S P Waldo,
I enclose herewith additional evidence case of Nancy Shipsey, widow of John Forbs or Forbush of New York, suspended under act of _____ for evidence of identity &c The evidence herewith presented clearly proves that the names Forbs & Forbush are identically the same I hope the case will now be ad- mitted.
Yours &c A H Markland

State of New York } ss County of Madison } On this twenty eighth day of July one thousand eight hundred and fifty five personally appeared before me a justice of the Peace in said County, Jacob Shaver of the town of Manlius. County of Onondaga. State aforesaid of the age of ninety six years, who being duly sworn, deposes & says that he was well acquainted with John Forbush and his father Jacob Forbush & his John Forbush family in the county of Montgomery state aforesaid immediately after the Revolutionary War and that he was well acquainted with George Anthony at that time and place also knew George Hous at the same time & place, and that he the said deponent has heard the copies of affidavits read of the said George Anthony, one affidavit sworn to Dec 14. 1853 before H W Tindall justice & one dated Oct 11-1851, & that from his own knowledge this deponent believes them to be true. And this deponent further says that in Montgomery County the said family were known by the name of Forbush, and this deponent further says that he knew the said John Forbush died in the County of Montgomery in state aforesaid & that they were called in his family moved to Madison County in state aforesaid, & that they were called in the said County of Madison by the name of Forbes & that he did not know the family by the name of Forbes until they

Moved into Macon County, and in Madison County they were called & known by the name of Forbes. And this deponent further says that he knew John Forbes wife before she was married to said Forbes. That her name was when a girl Nancy Hous, & after her marriage to the said John Forbes she lived with him until his death, & that after his death she married a man by the name of Henry Shippy
Subscribed & sworn to before me this 28th day of July 1853
his Jacob X Shaver mark
H. W. Kendall
H. W. Kendall Justice of the peace
attest H. W. Kendall

State of New York County of Madison } ss On this twenty eighth day of July one thousand eight Hundred and fifty five before me a justice of the peace in & for said County came William Shaver of the town of Sullivan in said county & by me being duly sworn deposes & says that he is eighty one years of age, that this deponent resided in the town County of Montgomery in said state up to the year one thou- - sand eight Hundred and twenty, & that he knew John Forbush family at the said County of Montgomery, & that he knew the widow of the said John Forbush there in Mont- - gomery County, & that he knew the said widow of John For- - bush after she married a man by the name of Henry Shipp -y- And this deponent further says that the said family of Forbush moved from the County of Montgomery to the County of Madison in said state, & that they were known & called by the name of Forbes in said County of Madison
Sworn & subscribed to this 28th day of July 1855-
before me
H. W. Treadall Justice of the peace in said County
William Shaver Shaver

of New-York, } ss. Madison County Clerk's Office, }
I, LUCIUS P. CLARK, Clerk of said County, and of the Courts of Record thereof, do hereby certify, That the annexed Instrument is executed and proved or acknowledged in due form, according to the laws of the State of New-York, to entitle it to be recorded therein.
Also that J. W. Kendall Esquire, before whom the same was proved or acknowledged, was, at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgement, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly elected, sworn and authorized to take the same. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with his hand-writing, and verily believe that the signature to the said certificate of proof or acknowledgement is genuine.
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County, this 3 rd day of August A. D. 1852.
Lucius P. Clark CLERK.

Perryville
Madison Co.
New York
Aug. 9 th 1855
Hon. Judge Minot
Sir Your humble servant has been some time trying to obtain the right of the heirs of John Forbes (who was called in the time of the Rev. war John Forbush) his widow who was dependant on her children for a support to a good old age I have obtained two more Affidavits which I forward to you to be filed to the claim of Nancy Shippy widow of John Forbes alias Forbush for his services in the Rev. war.
Please consider the matter well and write me the result, and should there be any thing lacking please inform me and
Oblige Yours Truly Geo. Lawrence

State of New York } ss County of Madison } George Anthony of said County being duly sworn deposes and says that he is in the ninety sixth year of his age, that he was well acquainted with John Forbes who was as well known by that name as by the name of John Forbush and was also well acquainted with his wife Nancy Forbes who was afterward Nancy Shipsey and has known them ever since the Revolutionary War up to their death.
And this deponent further says that he was well acquainted with the said John Forbes that he the said deponent was in the habit of carrying provisions to the said John Forbes while the said Forbes was sick, & to his family - from George House, I was living with & bound to the said George House at the time. And this said George House was nephew to the said Nancy Shipsey wife of the said John Forbes who was then called by the Dutch among whom he lived John Forbush. And I further certify that from my own knowledge that the said John Forbush sometimes called John Forbush was the same and identical person and that he was called Forbes by the Scotch & English & Forbush by the Dutch that were settled around him.
Subscribed & sworn to before me this fourteenth day of December 1834 } H. W. Kendall Justice of the peace in said County
his George X Anthony mark

State of New York { County of Madison { ss Thomas Laurence in said County, being duly sworn deposes and says that he is sixty years of age, and that he has been acquainted with the descendants of John Forbes for forty eight years past and that the said family of Forbes, were called by the Scotch & English, Forbes, and by the Dutch they were called Forbrish Subscribed and sworn to before me { Thomas Laurence This fourteenth day of December 1854 } H. W. Sencdall Justice of the peace in said County

State of New York } County of Madison } ss Henry Bort of said County being duly sworn deposes and says that he is now seventy two years of age, that he was acquainted with John Forbes, ever since he was a boy, I knew him Forbes in the said County of Montgomery, & I know the descendants of the said John Forbes in the County of Madison and that I know that the said John Forbes, and their descen- dants were called by the Scotch & English Forbes, and by by the Dutch Forbush. And this deponent further says that the person known by the Scotch & English as John Forbes, and by the Dutch as John Forbush, was the same identical person Subscribed and sworn to before me {
State of New-York, } ss. Madison County Clerk's Office, }
I, LUCIUS P. CLARK, Clerk of said County, and of the Courts of Record thereof, do hereby certify, That the annexed Instrument is executed and proved or acknowledged in due form, according to the laws of the State of New-York, to entitle it to be recorded therein:
Also that Harvey W. Kendall Esquire, before whom the same was proved or acknowledged, was, at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgement, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly elected, sworn and authorized to take the same. And I further certify that I am well acquainted with his hand-writing, and verily believe that the signature to the said certificate of proof or acknowledgement is genuine.
In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County, this day of December A. D. 1854.
19 th
Lucius P. Clark CLERK.

State of New York County of Madison { ss
Henry Bort of said County being duly sworn deposes and says that he is now seventy two years of age, that he was acquainted with John Forbes, ever since he was a boy, I knew him the Forbes in the said County of Montgomery, & I know the descendants of the said John John Forbes in the County of Madison and that I know that the said John Forbes, and their descen- dants were called by the Scotch & English Forbes, and by by the Dutch Forbush. And this deponent further says that the person known by the Scotch & English as John Forbes, and by the Dutch as John Forbush, was the same identical person
Subscribed and sworn to before me { this fourteenth day of December 1854 } H. W. Kendall Justice of the peace in said County
Henry Bort
11 Bills of How-Howes
CLERK.

Perryville
Madison Co.
N.Y.
Apr. 9/55
Mr. G. P. Waldo
Commissioner of Pensions.
Sir
permit me to refer to you for information in regard to the claim of the children of John Forbes, who served in the Rev. War. Mr. W. G. Wade was employed to adjust such claim at his death the papers came into the hands (as we have rec. letters) of F. E. Hassler of Washington. Mr. Hassler wrote me last Nov. for certain affidavits which he thought would be sufficient to substantiate the claim accordingly the affidavits were sent on, I have rec. nothing from Mr. Hassler since saw his circular card and a blank Bounty land claim without any farther explanation. The favor I wish is to write me in regard to above and
Oblige Yours Truly,
Geo. Lawrence

Perrysville Madison Co. N.Y.
June 2 nd 1855
Mr. Waldo
Sir Yours of Apr. 25 th was duly rec. d gratefully Yours. I have written Mr. Hassler to find out whether he has received the Affidavits the Copy of which are here inclosed. having as yet been unable to find out that fact I therefore Copy the Copy I have and send to you. hoping, as you have opportunity you will see if these Affidavits are in fill for the Claim of the heirs of John Forbes.
Of these Affidavits are in file what is lacking yet.
If they are not on the record and will avail anything I will have them sworn to over again, and forward to you.
Truly Yours
Geo. Lawrence

(State of New York) (County of Madison) ss George Anthony of said County being deply sworn deposed and says that he is in his Ninety sixth year of his age. That he was well acquainted with John Forbes who was as well known by that name as by the name of John Forbush and was also well acquainted with his wife Nancy Forbes who was afterward Nancy Shippy and has known them ever since the Revolutionary war up to their death. And this deponent further says that he was well acquainted with the said John Forbes that he the said deponent was in the habit of carrying provisions to the said John Forbes while the said Forbes was sick and to his family from George House. I was living with and bound to the said George House at the time And this said George House was Nephew to the said Nancy Shippy wife of the said John Forbes who was then called

by the Dutch among whom he lived John Forbush. And I further certify that from my own knowledge that the said John Forbes sometimes called John Forbush was the same and identical person and that he was called Forbes by the Scotch and English and Forbush by the Dutch that were settled around him
his Subscribed and sworn to before me George X Anthony this 14 th day of December 1854
H. W. Kendall
Justice of the Peace in said County

State of New York
County of Madison
§ 3
Thomas Lawrence in said County being duly sworn deposes and says that he is sixty years of age and that he has been acquainted with the descendants of John Forbes for forty eight years past and that the said family of Forbes were called by the Scotch and English Forbes and by the Dutch they were called Forbush
Sworn and subscribed to before me { Thomas Lawrence this fourteenth day of December 1854.
H. W. Kendall
Justice of the Peace in said County

State of New York } County of Madison } 33
Henry Bort of said County being duly sworn deposes and says that he is now seventy two years of age. that he was acquainted with John Forbes ever since he was a boy. I knew him the said Forbes in the county of Montgomery and I knew the descendants of the said John Forbes in the county of Madison. and that I know that the said John Forbes and their descendants were called by the Scotch and English Forbes and by the Dutch Forbush. And this Deponent further says that the person known by the Scotch and English as John Forbes and by the Dutch as John Forbush was the same Identical person
Sworn and subscribed to before Henry Bort on this fourteenth day of December 1859
H. W. Kendall Justice of the Peace in said County

Jamestown Jan. 20, N.Y. March 9, 1857 - Hon: David P. Lewis
Yrs - In behalf of the heirs of Nancy Shipsey an address from the Pakers were sent to the Pension Office Sept 2, 1837 -
The pakers were sent by the Hon: M c Cartie late Member of Congress - M c Cartie is absent from home so much that the pakers have been placed in our hands & you will please send all pakers to us -
We are in possession of your letter of Nov 2, 1817 requiring more proof as to identity of John Folsom -
Enclosed are some aff ts of Geo Anthony & their identity of Welden that John Folsom & John Folsom are the same He must have been 21, or 22 years old at the time & had the means of knowing -
If the children or a soldier apply for a pension and die

Upon the Certificate is issued, will and be issued in the name of the Grand Chief Officer.
Respectfully Yours
J. B. L. Brown

1842 Mary Shipley Widow of John Forster or Forbush.
NY Widow 30 April 1842 At Markland on 2/1842 Geo Lee rene Apr 20/42 Same June 11 1855 Same August 15 1855 A. & T. Room. March 23 rd Let same May 18/57 23/57
95.17
July 4 18

Simsstown Chautauqua Co NY Apr 15, 1857-
Dear Court of Pensions.
Yrs We have a case with the following and then we write for an opinion The heirs of a re- doubtable, hidden (the children) apply for a pension. Said children are all dead - had been left chil- -dren. Can said Grand Children get what their parents would have got had they lived and made out a case - The case is that of John Stokes - the papers are before you for a pension If they are not entitled more than less they do not want. The is the daughter of said Stokes with evidence -
Yours &c
J. H. J. Brown

Tenness Office, May 11. 1857.
Dear Sir,
In refg to your letter of the 5 th inst. you are informed that it has been reported, in the City that the Supreme Court of the U. States has decided that a grand child has has a legal claim to an interest in property which was due to a parent at his or her death; but we have no official information on the subject, nor are we prepared to act definitely on the question, until so instructed by the proper authority.
Messrs S. A. & T. Brown, Jamestown, Chautauqua Co. New York.

State of New York § 33 Bartholomew Forbes of Lenox in said County Madison County - § 34 being duly sworn according to Law deposes and saith that he has a record of his age by which it appears from this day's inspection thereof it appears this deponent was born in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven that he was well acquainted with the widow of his late Uncle John Forbes and his children the oldest of which was fifteen years older than this deponent - and from his earliest recollection heard it stated that his said Uncle John was near married to this same iden- tical person above stated as his widow her maiden name was Nancy Hance and this deponent has been informed by her the said Nancy and many others that they were married and cohabited before the Revolutionary war and until he was taken prisoner by the British when he remained a prisoner for about two years and after the death of the said John Forbes a brother the brother of the father of this deponent - and this deponent well recollects that his said Aunt and family lived with him for about one hundred rods from the father of this deponent in the Town of What is Danube now in the County of Herkimer then Montgomery and hence no doubt of the facts as above stated and that the said widow of the said John Forbes or Forbes the said Nancy was again married to one Conough and after his death the said Nancy was again married to Henry Phillips about fifty years since about 1801 and he went to Canada about forty years since and it was reported that he died there and left the said Nancy a widow and she remained as such until her death which was about 1844. and she was the same identical person the widow of the said John Forbes and no other person mean to and subscribed before me this 28th day of October 1857 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace
Barth. Forbes
I hereby that Bartholomew Forbes who made the above on oath in a room of the Court & Family and entitled to full credit Dec 28th 1857 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York Madison County ss: I hereby certify that Henry Brock Bartholomew Forbes George Anthony and Hannah Forbes who executed Affidavits before me on the 15 th day of October 1851 in the matter of the claim for a pension for the Widow of John Forbes Alias Forbush are each and all credible Witnesses and their statements each entitled to full credit and that George Anthony and Hannah Forbes made their mark not being in the practice of writing it was only by mistake the certificate was not added at the time to the Affidavits -
Witness my hand this 28 th day of October 1851
Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York County of Madison) ss Nancy Vandusen of the Town of Coeymans in the County and State aforesaid, being duly sworn ac- -cording to law, doth deponeth and saith that she is Seventy nine years of age and upwards, and that at her earliest recollection she was a resident of the Town of Manheim in the County of Herkimer State of New York, and that she was well acquainted with John Gerbus, at that time called Gerbush, and his wife Nancy, whose maiden name was Nancy House, - from her earliest recollection that they were living at that time in the town of Manheim aforesaid that the said John Gerbush, was as she understood engaged in the Revolutionary War, at different times and that she well knows and distinctly recollects of the time of said John Gerbush - since called Gerbus, - being taken prisoner by the enemy, and was taken from the country to Canada she thinks, and she well recollects that his said wife Nancy went when her husband was absent in the service and when he was taken prisoner, that he was absent from his family some two or three years, and returned from his imprisonment about the close of the war; - his constitution much impaired, that he died a few years after his return, leaving said Nancy his widow, who afterwards married one Canaway, and since his decease one Henry Shippy, who also died more forty years since, leaving said Nancy, formerly the wife of John Gerbush the soldier and prisoner, - a widow who did not again intermarry, but died a widow on or about the 25 th day of February (1844) Eighteen hundred and forty four, leaving her surviving two children named Sarah J Gerbus, and Mary Wilson, each being more than twenty years of age, and

That they were both residents of the County and State aforesaid, - deponent well knows from her acquaintance with the family that their eldest child would now be of living upwards of 80 years of age as he was some years older than this deponent, - and deponent well knows that the said Widow Shipsey who died in 1844, was the identical person who was mother of Mary Wilson, and Sarah G. Harkness, and the same individual who was the wife of said John Harkness, at the time of his being taken prisoner by the British or Indians in time of the Revolutionary War. Witness: Stephen Chapman - J. P. Laurens      Nancy Van Vandriesen
Sworn and Subscribed before me This 27 th day of October 1851 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace
I certify that the above named person, Nancy Vandriesen is a credible witness, and that for want of practice is unable to write. Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace October 27 th 1851
Clerks Office Madison County 2 nd State of New York I Lorenzo D. Dana, Clerk of the County of Madison, hereby certify that Stephen Chapman whose genuine signature appears within, is, was at the time of signing the same, a Justice of the Peace in & for said County, duly elected & qualified & authorized by law to administer oaths for general purposes. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal this 29 th day of October 1851. Lorenzo D. Dana Clerk

State of New York } Madison County } ss. Henry Bort of said County being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is now in his 70th year; that he was acquainted with John Forbes or John Forbush during his life time Also that he was well acquainted with Nancy Forbes or Forbush who was the wife of said John Forbes or Forbush and who was afterwards the widow of said John - and afterwards intermarried with a Mr. Henry Shipp.
That this deponent has been acquainted with said widow and afterwards Mrs. Shipp for some fifty years or more - That he has frequently heard said John Forbes or Forbush talk upon the subject of the Revolutionary war and say that he was a soldier in said war, and that he was taken a prisoner by the Enemy - And that he has frequently since he has known said widow heard her say that her husband John Forbes or Forbush was in the Revolutionary war and was taken a prisoner by the British Army.
That this deponent can remember of hearing the matter talked of for more than fifty years ago - and always understood that said John was engaged in the said Revolutionary war with Great Britain, and was taken a prisoner by the Enemy, and that he has no doubt but that the said John was such a soldier and was taken such prisoner And this deponent says that his father Nicholas Bort was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary war and he has frequently heard him say that John Forbes or Forbush

was a soldier in the Army of the Colonies and was taken a prisoner by the enemy. Subscribed and sworn Henry Bort before me this 15 th day of October 1857 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace
State of New York } Madison County } ss: Bartholomew Forbes of said County being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is now in his 68 year; That he was well acquainted with John Forbes, the reputation who was known as well by that name or by the name of John Forbush, and also was well acquainted with his wife Nancy Forbes - and has known her for over 60 years - That the father of this deponent - Nicholas Forbes - was a soldier in the Army of the Colonies in the revolutionary war with Great Britain, and this deponent has frequently heard said Nancy Forbes say that her husband John Forbes was a soldier in the Revolutionary war and was taken a prisoner and suffered by means of which he died - That he has frequently heard his father and mother and others speak of said John's being in the Revolutionary war, and that he was taken a prisoner as stated above, and that he has always understood from all that he ever heard talk upon the subject that said John Forbes was a soldier in said war and was taken prisoner by the enemy and suffered by means of which he ultimately died
Subscribed and sworn Bartho Forbes before me this 15 th day of October 1857 - Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York } ss. Hannah Forbes of said County, being duly Madison County } sworn doth depose and say that she is in the seventy fourth year of her age and is the widow of John Forbes who was the son of John and Nancy Forbes that she was well acquainted with Nancy Forbes the widow of the said John Forbes senior when after ward married Henry Shippy and have known her the said Nancy Shippy the mother of my late husband for fifty years and have frequently heard the said Nancy say that her husband was taken when he was a soldier in the United States service in the war of the revolution, by the British and Indians as a prisoner and kept and held a prisoner until the close of said Revolutionary war and that she stated his wrists were lacerated by wearing the irons and that I was supposed that the fatigues and privation he there suffered were the cause of his sickness and death after he returned home and has frequently heard her husband John Forbes make the same statement as above stated by the said Nancy his mother and have heard many other old people state that they knew the same facts and she has never heard it disputed by any one and she firmly believes the whole of the foregoing statements to be true Sworn to and subscribed before Hannah her X. Forbes mark
me this 15th day of October 1851.
Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York } Madison County } ss: George Anthony of said County being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is now in his 93 year - that he was well acquainted with John Forbes also was as well known by that name as by the name of John Forbush - and was also well acquainted with his wife Nancy Forbes who was afterwards Nancy Shippy - and has known them ever since the Revolutionary war, up to the death that he has understood in the time of said war that said John Forbes was engaged in the service in said Revolutionary war and that he was taken a prisoner in said war and suffered greatly by misfortune which ultimately caused his death. and has always understood from that time till now - and never heard it contradicted - That he has frequently heard his Grand Mother and others talk about it on a great many occasions - and recount the sufferings which he said John Forbes underwent while a prisoner - And he has no doubt and very believes that said John Forbes was a soldier in Army of the United States in the Revolutionary war and that he was taken as a prisoner and greatly suffered and that it was ultimately the cause of his death.
Subscribed and sworn to this before me this 15 th day of October 1831 Stephen Chapman - Justice of the Peace George X Anthony. Mark

State of New York Madison County } Nancy Vandriesen of the town of Cazenovia county & State aforesaid being duly sworn both depose and say that she is seventy nine years of age. That she was well acquainted with John Forbush and Nancy his wife as long as she can remember they were called in those days Forbush but afterwards went by the name of Forbs. I lived at the time when he said Forbush was taken prisoner & heard the family talk about it and well rem- ember Mrs Forbush cry about her husband being in the war & being taken prisoner after Mr Forbes died his widow married Mr Henry Shippy - I don't think Mr Forbes returned until after the war closed and he was always weakly after he came home - The oldest son of Mr & Mrs Forbes was named Jacob, the second son's name was Nicholas - The oldest daughter's name was Mary - One sons name was John one girls name was Nancy - When he was taken prisoner they had five children
Subscribed and sworn before me this 17th day of October 1857 W. J. Clarke Justice of the Peace
Nancy Vandriesen her mark

Clerks Office, Madison County New York
I, Lorenzo D. Dana, Clerk of said County, hereby certify that Stephen Chapman & B. S. Clarke, Esquires, whose genuine signatures appear within, are here at the time the same bear date, Justices of the Peace, in & for said County, duly elected & qualified & authorized by law to ad- minister oaths for general purposes.
In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Official Seal this 20 th day of October 1851. Lorenzo D. Dana Clerk M c Lucius R. Clark Dept. Clerk

Nancy Shipsey formerly widow of John Harbush application on behalf of act of 4th July 1836, 3rd Section. -

State of New York Madison County
ss James M c Niven
Surrogate of said County, do hereby certify that at a Surrogates Court, held in and for said County, before me the said Surrogate at Hamilton was proved, by the adduction of testimony, satisfactory to the said Court, that Nancy Shippy late of said County widow of Henry Shippy, and formerly the widow of John Forbes, alias Farbush, died, in said County, on the (23 d ) Twenty third day of February (1844) One thousand eight hundred and forty four; and at her death she left her surviving, the following named Children viz: Jacob J Forbes & Mary Wilson residents of said County, and that they are her only Children left her surviving, and that each are of the age of twenty one years and upwards.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto Subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of said Court this 27 day of Dec 1851
James M c Niven Surrogate