Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 6853, Hugh Forbus, N.C.

SERVICE
NUMBER
166
Forbus, Hugh
S. 6853
Born in N.C.
Carded
CONTENTS

16.857 North Carolina.
Hugh Forbes - of Meck. Co. - in the State of N.C. who was a Pr. in the                      commanded by Captain                      of the Regt commanded by Col. Lock - in the N.C. a line for 2 years.
Inscribed on the Roll of N.C. Carolina at the rate of 50. Dollars      Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7 th day of Febr. 33. and Supt. J. M. Ingram. Ingramville, N.C.
Arrears to the 4th of Sept 1833      200 - Semi-ant. allowance ending 1 Mar: 34      40 - $ 240 -
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Nath. Rice Clerk, Book E Vol. 6 1/2 Page 54.

State of North Carolina } on this the 24 th day of August Mecklenburg County } 1833 personally appeared Before Mr. J. W. Ingram one of the acting Justices of the peace in and for said County Samuel Givens aged 70 years and William Howard aged 69 years Both Residents of County and both on oath that they were with the applicant Hugh Forster who has sworn to and subscribed the within declaration in the Ten months past under Capt John Foster and Capt Jacob Barnes and his statement Relative to that Forster is true sworn to and subscribed the day and year last a true copy from Samuel Givens Sworne to Before me William Howard John W. Ingram J.P.
State of North Carolina } We Zachariah Starnes a Mecklenburg County } Clergyman Residing in said County of Mecklenburg and Alexander W. Richardson Residing in the same hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Hugh Forster who has subscribed and sworn to the above declara- tion that we believe him to be 77 years of age that he is Reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he Resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion Sworne to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid Before me Zachariah Starnes A.W. Richardson

Introgabues Where and in what year was you Born I was Born in Gilfords County North Carolina in the year I Believe 1785 have you any Records of your age if so where is it I have no Records of my age - Where were you living when called in to Service where have you lived since the Revolu- tionary war and where do you now live I lived in Gilfords County North Carolina when called in to Service and have lived in Elkins Tinkling County ever since the The Revolution- ary war. I now live the same place I have Ever since the war
Where were you called in to Service war your drafted did you volunteer or were you a Substitute and if a Substitute for home, I volunteered and was a Substitute for a man By the name of David Kerr did you ever Recd a discharge from the Service and if so By whom was it Given and what has become of it
I did Recd a discharge from the Service By a man whose name I cannot Recollect and have lost or mislaid it
his Hugh F. Horlus Mark

State of North Carolina on this the 16 th day of August Mecklenburg County 1855 personally appeared before Me J. M. Ingram one of the Justices of the Inferior Court County Hugh Horton a Resident of the said County and State aged 77 years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the Benefit of the provisions made By the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832 that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated he volunteered and entered the service of the United States the 1 st of June 1778 under Capt Wilson in the Regiment Commanded By Col Lock and General Rutherford for the No Not Recollected and served a Tour of 9 months and in that nine months tour he marched through South Carolina the Savannah River and was discharged there the 1 st of February 1779 on the Savannah River and on the same day the 1 st of February 1779 he substituted for a manly the name of David Kerr and served a Tour of five months part of the time under Capt Wilson and part under Capt Pop in the same Regiment Com- manded By Col Lock & Gen l Rutherford and in that Tour he crossed the Savannah River and was in the Battle at Brrier Creek on the 5 th of March 1779 and the 1 st of July he was discharged on Santa in South Carolina near Wilsons Ferry and returned to Guilford County N.C. where

in or about the first of April 1881 he enlisted under Captain John Foster and served a term of ten months a part of the said time he was under the command of Captain Jacob Barnett in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Wade Hampton during which said period he traveled through a part of South Carolina & was in the battle at Saluda Springs & crossed over Savannah River at Augusta & was for some time in the State of Georgia between Augusta & Savannah & then came into South Carolina & was discharged at Orangeburgh in So. Carolina by a man whose name he does not recollect & has lost said discharge or mislaid it so that he cannot find it And where in the whole twenty four months & he has no documentary evidence of his services he hereby re- linquishes every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity, except the present & declares his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid Sworn to Before me John M. Ingram
Though his  his  his  his Mark

State of North Carolina } I John M Ingram a Justice Mecklenburg County } of the peace in and for the County aforesaid do hereby Certify that the applicant Hugh Forbes who has subscribed and sworn to the within declaration before me is unable to attend Court from Grate Bodily infirmities Given under my hand this 24 th day of August 1833 John M Ingram J.P.
and I the said John M Ingram do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and served as he states and I further certify that it appears to me that Zachariah Starnes who has signed the preceding certificate is a Colored man Resident in the said County and that Alexander W. Richardson who has also signed the same is a Resident in the said County and is a credible person and that Samuel Givens and William Woodard who has signed the within Certificate are Residents of the said County of Mecklenburg and credible persons and their statement also is entitled to credit Given under my hand the day and year last above mentioned John M Ingram J.P.
I hereby Oath Clerk of the Court of pleas & quarter
Sessions for Mecklenburg County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of John M. Ingram Esq. in the matter of the application of Hugh Forbes for a pension, and further certify that the said John M. Ingram is a Magistrate as above and that the signature purporting to be his is genuine - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and affixed my seal of Office this 12 th day of September A.D. 1833
B. Oates Clerk of Mecklenburg Court

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
June 10 th 1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
Co. A. Carolina
A Statement, shewing the Service of Hugh Forbes Mecklenburg
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Yrs. Mths. Dys.     Vol 1778 9 Private Capt Wilson 77 years Traditional evidence   Sub. 5 Col Lock Alford not credible by the court   Vol 2 Genl Rutledge North Carolina witnesses, but not stated as to credibility   10 Sergt Capt D. V.   Capt Wilson   Col Washington   Capt Fortin   Capt Barnett   Col Hampton  
I am, respectfully;
no proof of his being a Serjt
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this                      day of                      personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of                      in the county of                      and State, Territory or District of                      aged (c)                      years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d)                      , with                      and served in the                      (e) regiment of the                      line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I,                      of the Court of                      do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of                      for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of                      &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the                      and C. D. residing in (the same)                      hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with                      , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be                      years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the                      and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the                      and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I,                      Clerk of the Court of                      do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of                      for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this                      day of                      &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
John H. Ashton

525.265
Hugh Forbes Mecklenburg Co N. Carolina
Camille D. Lyons Dr. $80. P. 2:1
J. M. Ingram Mecklenburg Co ( Shoemaker ) N. Carolina

Rev War
6853
INVALID.
am
File No. 6853
Hugh Forbes
Priv. Rev. War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 1st , Page 129
[Arrangement of 1870.]