Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 2541, Joseph England, N.C.

SERVICE
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England, Joseph
S. 2541
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19170 19170 East Tennessee
Joseph England Anderton in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Martin of the regt commanded by Col Armstrong in the Mountain line for 1 year and 7 months
Inscribed on the Roll of East Tennessee at the rate of 65 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 13 day of Augt 1833 and to  James Wm Kingwell
Arrears to the 4th of March 136.66 Semi-ant. allowance ending Sept 31. 66
$168.32
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by David Boyd Clerk, Book 6 Vol. 7 Page 42
Rate of Pension not on A.P.

State of Tennys & ss on the 27 th Day of February 1883 Anderson County ss Personally appeared in open Court before me Edward Scott one of the Judges of Court Equity in and for the said State of Tennessee and for the second Judicial circuit now sitting Joseph England a resident of the said County and state, in the said County of Anderson, and state of Tennessee, aged 70 years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declara- -tion in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7 th 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated He was born in New Kent County, Virginia on the 25 th day of December 1762 He has no record of his age at this time, it was burnt when he got his house burnt, some years ago He was living in Surry County, in the state of South Carolina when called into the service, at which place, he thinks in or about the first of November 1779 he volunteered for a three months tour against the british, and Pavies, under Capt Royal or Rial Martin, in the Militia in Maj Wm Shepherds & Col Martin Armstrongs Regiment He rendezvoused at Old Richmond Courthouse, on the Yadkin River in said Surry County at the time last aforesaid we had no Genl that tour, we lay there a week or ten days, and then march- -ed to the shallows ford of the Yadkin, there we had a skirmish with the Pavies who were commanded by Rial Wright, we defeated the Pavies and killed some thirty or forty of them, took no prisoners, we returned to the place of rendez- -vous at Richmond, in a few days, lay there a few weeks, then marched into South Carolina to Gilford, we were there met by some officers, their names not recollected, and ordered back, we then marched back to Richmond and lay there till our time was out, and was there honorably discharged in the first of February 1780 his discharge was signed by the said Col Armstrong He served at this time three months Again while living in said Surry County South Carolina in or about the first of June 1780 he volunteered for a four months tour under Capt John Simmons in Maj Sharp's Regiment of Militia, whether he had a Col or not

State of Tennessee ss on the 27 th day of February 1833 Anderson County ss Personally appeared in open Court before me Edward Scott one of the Judges of Law and Equity in and for the said State of Tennessee and for the second Judicial circuit now sitting Joseph England a resident of the said County and state, in the said County of Anderson, and state of Tennessee, aged 70 years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declara- -tion in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7 th 1832 That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated He was born in New Kent County, Virginia on the 25 th day of December 1762 He has no record of his age at this time, it was burnt when he got his house burnt, some years ago He was living in Surry County, in the state of South Carolina when called into the service, at which place, he thinks in or about the first of November 1779 he volunteered for a three months tour against the British, and Patriots, under Capt Royal or Rial Martin, in the Militia in Maj Wm Shepherds & Col Martin Armstrongs Regiment He rendezvoused at Old Richmond Courthouse, on the Yadkin River in said Surry County at the time last aforesaid we had no Genl that tour, we lay there a week or ten days, and then march- -ed to the shallows ford of the Yadkin, there we had a skirmish with the Patriots who were commanded by Rial Wright, we defeated the Patriots and killed some thirty or forty of them, took no prisoners, we returned to the place of rendez- -vous at Richmond, in a few days, lay there a few weeks, then marched into South Carolina to Gilford, we were there met by some officers, their names not recollected, and ordered back, we then marched back to Richmond and lay there till our time was out, and was there honorably discharged in the first of February 1780 his discharge was signed by the said Col Armstrong He served at this time three months Again while living in said Surry County South Carolina in or about the first of June 1780 he volunteered for a four months tour under Capt John Simmons in Maj Sharp's Regiment of Militia, whether he had a Col or not

at this time is not recalled, nor Mag Sharp's Christian name is not recalled, we then rendezvoused at Richmond Courthouse, on the Yadkin River, at the time last foreaid lay there about two weeks then marched to Charlotte Courthouse, there we joined Genl Sumpter, lay there same time then marched to the Hanging Neck in South Carolina, he was in the battle of the Hanging Neck, which he thinks was in August Genl Sumpter commanded, with we then marched towards Camden to join Genl Gates, but before we got there Gates was defeated, and we met his troops retreating, we then turned and marched to Charlotte, lay there same time, then marched to Salisbury, there he was honorably discharged same time in Octo 1780 his discharge was signed by Genl Lask his Christian name not recalled He served at this time four months
Again while living at the same place last foreaid to wit Surry County, he volunteered for a three months tour under Capt Charles Simmons we had no Col we rendezvoused at Richmond Courthouse on the Yadkin River he thinks the start of Octo 1780 lay there same time we then marched into Gilford then returned back to the place of rendezvous and lay there waiting for a reinforcement we considered ourselves too weak to resist Brannings men who were Tories and was between us and had quarters, lay there till our time was out, and was then honorably discharged in January 1781 his discharge was signed who was Col of the County by Col Christy he served at this time three months
Again as soon as the above tour was out while at the place of rendezvous to wit Richmond he volunteered under Col John Hogan in January 1781 for a nine months tour marched to Fayette on Cape Fear lay there same time then marched to Genl Butlers head quarters in the neighborhood of Wilmington then we marched fifteen miles above Wilmington and joined the main army commanded by Genl M c Dowell lay there till our time was out and was then honorably discharged in November 1781 his discharge was signed by Genl M c Dowell he served at this time nine months The above mentioned

Discharges were all burnt at the time he got his have burnt a number of years ago he claims for for nineteen months since he may be mistaken as to some of the dates above mentioned but he is certain he served all the time above mentioned and several other times that he cannot particularize as discharges
He has lived since the war in said Surry County about two years he then moved to Catawba River in York County North Carolina lived there till about 1827, his wife died, and Children all married, and he has since lived with them; one son lives in said Anderson County and he lives with him at this time
He does not recollect the names of the regular officers who were with the troops when he served nor the continual or militia regiments further than above stated He never was drafted nor a substitute He did not receive a commission during the revolution He is not much acquainted in his present neighbourhood but he is acquainted with Maj Arthur Cragin Charles G Oliver Esq. Sumner Esq. Morris Cobb all of whom he believes would testify that they believe him to be a man of honor and that they believe him to have been a soldier of the revolution There is no Clergyman living in his neighbourhood nor none that he can procure who can prove the extent of his service He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the pension and interest that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any state Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid He has no documentary proof  proof  his  his England evidence and he knows of no person whose testimony he can procure who can testify to his service
He Arthur Cragin Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid for Open Court 27th February 1833 Joseph his  his England mark A Cragin Esq -
We Arthur Cragin and Charles G Oliver residing in the said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Joseph England who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be 70 years of age that he is reputed & believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a

soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion, sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court May 27 th 1833. C. J. [unclear] Clerk
C. J. [unclear] K. Y. [unclear]
And the said court do hereby declare his opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolu- tionary soldier and served as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to him that Arthur Crozier & Charles G. Oliver who has signed the preceding certificate are residents in the said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit
Edw Scott one of the Judges of
The Circuit Courts of Law and Equity
in & for the State of Tennessee aforesaid
I Arthur Crozier Clerk of the Circuit Court in and for said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Joseph England for a pension on testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and private seal having no seal of office at office in Clinton this 27 th Day of Feb 1833
C. J. [unclear] Clerk
Pension Application of Joseph England
I Hugh S. White a member of Congress from the state of Tennessee do hereby certify that Arthur Crozier is Clerk of the Circuit Court in and for the said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee and was so at the time that the pension declarat- ion of the said Joseph England bears date and that the foregoing signatures which purports to be his are his genuine signatures
Hugh S. White June 11 th 1833
Direct to James Hair Knoxville Tennessee

adduce of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion, sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in Open Court July 27 th 1833. J. Crozier Clerk
W. H. C. T. 1833 H. H. H.
And the said court do hereby declare his opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a revolu- tionary soldier and served as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to him that Arthur Crozier & Charles J. Oliver who has signed the preceding certificate are residents in the said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit
Edw. Scott one of the Judges of The Circuit Courts of Law and Equity in & for the State of Tennessee aforesaid
I Arthur Crozier Clerk of the Circuit Court in and for the said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Joseph England for a pension for testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and private seal having no seal of office at office in Clinton this 27 th Day of July 1833
J. Crozier Clerk
Pension Application of Joseph England
24402
I Hugh S. White a member of Congress from the state of Tennessee do hereby certify that Arthur Crozier is Clerk of the Circuit Court in and for the said County of Anderson and state of Tennessee and was so at the time that the pension declarat- ion of the said Joseph England bears date and that the foregoing signatures which purport to be his are his genuine signatures
Hugh S. White June 11 th 1833
Direct to James H. Air Knoxville Tennessee

24.402.
Joseph England Anderson Co. Tennessee
from 1779 private 119 months,
$63.33.
Marlin Crumhane, N.C.
James Haire Knobsville Anderson Co. Tennessee

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Joseph England Anderson to Tennessee
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field-officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Nov. 1779 " 3 " Priv Col. Lenoir Maj. Shepherd Capt. Martin 40 years Tenn. sc. Co. Traditionary.   June 1780 " 4 " " Maj. Sharp Col. Simmons Gen. Sumpter N. Car.   Oct 30 1780 " 3 " " Col. Simsbone Capt. Simmons   Jan 1781 " 9 " " Gen. McDowell Capt. Hogan  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers :
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. (This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.)]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? { To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [j] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
Joseph Rowen.

April 14, 1937.
Mr. Edward Lance Sparta, Tennessee.
BA-J/EEL/ILL Joseph England S. 2541
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Joseph England, who received a pension which commenced March 4, 1831; you state that you desire information especially in regard to his parents and a brother, Aaron England.
The data given herein were found in pension claim, S. 2541, based upon service of Joseph England in the Revolutionary War.
Joseph England was born December 25, 1762, in New Kent County, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown, and there is no reference to a brother, Aaron.
While residing in Surry County, North Carolina, he enlisted and served as a private with the North Carolina Troops as follows: from November 1, 1779, three months in Captain Roial or Rial Martin's Company, Colonel Martin Armstrong's Regiment and was in a skirmish at the Shallow Ford of the Yadkin River; from June 1, 1780, four months in Captain John Timmins' Company under Major Sharp and was in the battle of Hanging Rock; from the latter part of October 1780, three months in Captain Thomas Timmins' Company; from January, 1781, nine months in Captain John Hogan's Company.
After the Revolution, he continued to reside in Surry County, North Carolina, for about two years, then moved to the Catawba River in Burke County, North Carolina and lived there until about 1827.
He was allowed pension on his application executed February 27, 1833, while residing in Anderson County, Tennessee. He did not give the date of his removal to that county.

In 1833, Joseph England stated that his wife was dead and all of his children married, and that he was then residing with a son, but gave no names, and there are no further family data.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and, possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following:
Joseph England Certificate #19170 Issued August 13, 1833 Rate $63.33 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831. Act of June 7, 1832. East Tennessee Agency.
Very truly yours,
A. D. MILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

1931-Nov 10-Visit to Emeralda Robinson Smith - ECH Letter in case John Grant S. 6930 - ECH 1934-Mar 22-Visit to Davie Watson Bodanich ECH
Rev War
2541. INVALID.
File No. 2541.
Joseph England Print Rev War
Act: June 7. 1832
Index:—Vol. A. , Page 114.
[Arrangement of 1870.]

March 22, 1934
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BA-J/EEL Joseph England-S.2541
Darice Watson-Bodenbach 3441 N. Hubbard Street Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the pension record of Joseph England, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.
A very careful examination of the papers in Revolutionary War pension claim, S.2541, of Joseph England, has been made in your behalf and the data found therein are given below.
Joseph England was born December 25, 1762, in New Kent County, Virginia. The names of his parents are not shown in the papers in the pension claim.
While residing in Surry County, North Carolina, he enlisted and served as a private with the North Carolina Troops as follows: from November 1, 1779, three months in Captain Rial or Rial Martin's Company, Colonel Martin Armstrong's Regiment and was in a skirmish at the shallow ford of the Yadkin River; from June 1, 1780, four months in Captain John Timmins' Company under Major Sharp and was in the battle of Hanging Rock; from the latter part of October, 1780, three months in Captain Thomas Timmins' Company; from January, 1781, nine months in Captain John Hogan's Company.
After the Revolution, he continued to reside in Surry County, North Carolina for about two years; then moved to the Catawba River in Burke County, North Carolina and lived there until about 1827.
He was allowed pension on his application executed February 27, 1833, while residing in Anderson County, Tennessee. He did not give the date of his removal to that county.
In 1833, he stated that his wife was dead and all his children married and that he was then residing with a son, but gave no names, and there are no further family data.

In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of the Revolutionary War pensioner, Joseph England(s.2541), you should address The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, citing the following data:
Joseph England, Certificate No. 19170, issued August 13, 1833, rate $63.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, East Tennessee Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator.

Letter To Esmeralda Robinson Smith
Nov 10/31
The data furnished herein are obtained from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S.2541, based upon the military service of Joseph England in that war.
Joseph England was born December 25, 1762, in New Kent County, Virginia.
While residing in Surry County, North Carolina, he enlisted and served as a private with the North Carolina Troops as follows: from November 1, 1779, three months in Captain Reial or Rial Martin's Company, Colonel Martin Armstrong's Regiment, and was in a skirmish at the shallow ford of the Yadkin River; from June 1, 1780, four months in Captain John Timmins' Company under Major Sharp and was in the battle of Hanging Rock; from the latter part of October, 1780, three months in Captain Thomas Timmins' Company; from January, 1781, nine months in Captain John Hogan's Company.
After the Revolution, he lived in Surry County, North Carolina, about two years; then moved to the Catawba River in Burke County, North Carolina, lived there until about 1827, and in 1833, was living in Anderson County, Tennessee, where he was allowed pension on his application executed February 27, 1833.
In 1833, his wife was dead and all of his children married, names of wife and children not stated. A son was living in Anderson County, Tennessee, in that year with whom the soldier then resided.
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Very truly yours
A.D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator.
Date of death not on AB

Sparta, Tennessee March 22, 1937
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Veterans Administration Washington D.C.
Gentlemen:
read me
Please mail me a synopsis of the military and family data included in the Revolutionary pension claim of Joseph England . I have a reference to: "Joseph England, private, Va. Line, placed on Pension Roll- August 13, 1833; pension commenced-March 4, 1831; Age- 71."
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My deepest interest, however, is relative to any information that may be conveyed as to his parents and his brothers and sisters--especially as to his parents if he was a son of John England and as to his brother Aaron England (if they were brothers).
Yours truly,
Edward Lance Edward Lance

MAXIMILIAN N. BODENBACH
ENGINEER
195 SOUTH BECK ROAD BOX
MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN
Department of The Interior
Bureau of Pensions
Washington D.C.
Dear Sir:
Please send me a copy of the pension record of Joseph England who my records show served in the companies of Capt. Rail Martin in 1779 to 1780 was in Capt John Timmins' CO., at Battle of Hanging Rock and in Capt. John Hogan's company 1781, lived in Surry Co N.C. and was living in Anderson Co. T Tenn, when his pension was allowed in 1833.
Thanking you for this and enclosing a selfaddressed stamped envelope for your convenience.
Sincerely yours,
Marie Watson Bodenbach
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VETERANS ADMINISTRATION
WASHINGTON
March 13, 1934.
YOUR FILE REFERENCE:
IN REPLY REFER TO: BA-G
ENGLAND, Joseph
Mrs. Marice Watson-Rodenbach, 3441 N. Hubbard St., Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Dear Madam:
The postage enclosed with your letter of recent date is herewith returned. No postage is required on replies to official inquiries.
Your communication is being given prompt attention.
By direction,
W. C. BLACK, Chief Clerk.
Enclosure: (1) stamped envelope
Veterans Administration Form 3158 Return of Postage.