Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 15104, Solomon Dutcher, Mass. New York

SERVICE
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Mass. New York
Dutcher, Solomon.
S. 15104
boarded.
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14015 14015 New York
Solomon Dutcher
of Oswego Co in the State of New York who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Chie of the Regt, commanded by Col Livingston in the N.Y. Mils were for 5 mos 24 ds, and Mass.
Aug 7. 05
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 62 Dollars 64 Cents per annum to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 9 day of May 1833 and sent to Lowell Johnson Salem
Arrears to the 14th of March 1833 $25.28 Sem-ant. allowance ending Sept 1 31.32
$156.60
{ Revolutionary Claim, } Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. L. Williams Clerk Book 4 Vol. 4 Page 53
Dutcher Solomon

State of New York Oswego County
On this twenty fourth day of September one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for said County now sitting Solomon Butcher a resident of Watkins in said County of Oswego aged fifty three years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 4th 1832
That he was born in the Town of Albany in the County of Rensselaer and State of New York on the third tenth day of June in the year one thousand seven hundred and fifty nine I do not know that there is any record of his age any where That he lives on Livingston Manor in the Town of Tazewell and Columbia but was then in the County of Albany That in the year 1777 he volunteered in an alarm from the place last mentioned and went under Capt. Collins in Col. Livingston's regiment and to Saratoga to oppose Burgoyne and was in one battle under General Schuyler in a party of about three hundred where they commenced and fought most of the day in a kind of skirmishing This was North of Saratoga and four or five weeks before Burgoyne was taken He was not six weeks at this time but does not know that  first was dismissed but received no discharge in writing
That in June of 1778 he went as a substitute for Isaac Williams Junior who had enlisted for three years and wishing to be at home he hired the said Solomon Butcher for three months when he served out under Captain Davis Elmer That they lay at Fishkill in the County of Dutchess aforesaid That he had no discharge in writing but when his term was out he went home and the said Williams took his own place That he went from Natchtown in the County of Albany at this time That in October of the same year he went again as a substitute for one Samuel Chapman who was drafted for one month and served the month out at Cherry Valley in the State of New York That he was in no battle at this time but that the company formed a picket guard and relieved each other alternately
That in 1779 in June he again went as a substitute for a person whose name he has forgotten but he went for nine months That he mustered at Great Bonyon and rendezvoused at Springfield in Massachusetts where they lay about a week and then he went front to supply various in various companies That he was was in Capt. Porter's company and shortly after was taken out among the mountains to get timber and was out on this business about two months when he again returned to his company and finished out his time That when his term was up he received permission to go home and a pass to that effect
That in the year 1780 he went to Cambridge in

The County of Washington & State of New York to live and in the year 1781 he went as a substitute for one Francis Prime to Fort Stanwix two weeks to guard the fort which time he served out & was dismissed This was in the fall of the year
That in 1782 he again went as a substitute for one William Sharp who was a sergeant of a party of rangers
That he was out two weeks at this time and was dismissed as before
That in 1783 he again volunteered and went under Colonel Datz to Rupert and secured the county round about to prevent the incursions of the Tories and served two weeks in this term and was dismissed as before
That he never received any written discharge
That he knows of no person living by whom he can prove any part of his services except the three last trips & two weeks each nor even then without going about two hundred miles for a unit as to that part
That he went to Cambridge in the county of Washington & State of New York of service in the year 1780 where he con- tinued to live till about six years since when he came to Volney in the county of Oswego & State of New York where he now lives
That he is known to Notarius Ross Patten Parker Amos Griffith Andrew Gilbert and others in his present neighborhood who can testify as to his character for truth and veracity & their belief of his ser- vices
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a Pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any State or Territory
Given under my hand this 24th day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two and of the Independence of the United States the fifty six
We Amos Griffith a clergyman residing in the town of Volney of service under Andrew Gilbert - residing in the same State hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Solomon Fletcher who has subscribed & sworn to the foregoing declaration that we believe him to be seven- ty three years of age and that he is respected and belie- ved in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a revolutionary soldier that we never heard it doubted and that we concur in that opinion and that said Solomon Fletcher sustains a good character for truth & veracity
Amos Griffith Andrew Gilbert Solomon Fletcher
And the court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interroga- tories prescribed by the war department that the above na- med Solomon Fletcher was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states
And the court further certify that it appears to them that Amos Griffith who has signed the

or annually except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any State or Territory Given under my hand this 24th day of Sept 1832. (Signature) Elihu Thomson Clerk
David Griffith a clergyman residing in the town of Albany of Orange and said Gilbert finding in the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Solomon Fletcher who has subscribed & sworn to the foregoing declaration that we believe him to be seven or eight years of age and that he is respected and believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a revolutionary soldier that we never heard it doubted and that in common in that opinion and that said Solomon Fletcher has a good character for truth & veracity
David Griffith Elihu Thomson Clerk
And the undersigned do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department that the above named Solomon Fletcher was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states
And the undersigned further certify that it appears to them that David Griffith who has signed the foregoing certificate is a clergyman residing in the town of Albany of Orange and that Andrew Gilbert who has also signed the same is a resident in Albany of Orange and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
Lawrence Johnson Elihu Thomson Clerk Second Trial Judge of said Court
State of New York Orange County
I Eric Sawyer clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Orange aforesaid do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in said cause in the matter of the application of Solomon Fletcher for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 24th day of Sept 1832
Elihu Thomson Clerk By H. H. Housan Deputy

In the Matter of Salomon Butcher application for a Pension D.
14157.

14.157 Solomon Dutcher Otsego Co N York
admitted 15 mo 24 days 1842
60 2/3 4
Lowell Johnson P.M. Palermo

BRIEF in the case of  Solomon Datcher  of  Sage 65  in the State of New York  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Non Coert  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 73 years  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 1777 1 12 Private Gen. Col. Livingstone   June 1778 5 " Col. Elmer   Octob. 1778 1 "   1779 9 " Col. Parker   1781 14 "   1782 14 "  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Columbia Co. New York  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Papers not attested or signed 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
Michael Gatti Examining Clerk.

May 1, 1939
aw BA-J/AWF Solomon Dutcher S. 15104
Mr. Merlin W. Dutcher 4827- 34th Street, South Minneapolis, Minnesota
Dear Sir:
The data furnished herein were obtained from papers on file in claim for pension, S.15104, based upon the military service of Solomon Dutcher in the Revolutionary War.
Solomon Dutcher was born June 13, 1759 in Oblong, Dutchess County, New York. The names of his parents are not given.
While residing in Livingston Manor, then Albany County, later Columbia County, New York, Solomon Dutcher enlisted in the year 1777, served about six weeks as private in Captain Cline's company, Colonel Livingston's New York regiment, and was in a battle near Saratoga, this service was four or five weeks before the surrender of Burgoyne. He enlisted sometime in June, 1778, served three months in Captain David Elmer's company. He enlisted sometime in October, 1778, served one month at Cherry Valley, names of officers not given. He enlisted in 1779, was mustered at Great Barrington, rendezvoused at Springfield, Massachusetts, served nine months in Captain Parks' company.
Solomon Dutcher moved in the year 1780, to Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and in the fall of 1780, served two weeks in Fort Ann as a guard, names of officers not given. He served in 1782, two

weeks in a "party of rangers", and served in 1783, two weeks under Colonel Doty, in a scouting party against the Tories.
The soldier, Solomon Dutcher, was allowed pension on his application executed September 24, 1832, then a resident of Volney, Oswego County, New York.
The papers on file in this claim contain no discernible family data.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid, and possibly the date of death of this pensioner, you should apply to The Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and furnish the following data-
Solomon Dutcher Certificate #14075 Issued May 9, 1833 Rate $62.64 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831 Act of June 7, 1832 New York Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

Oct. 14 '96 Sold pension to Mrs Jeffery D. Phelps Newbury, Conn.
1933 Apr. 6 - wish to Florence Dutcher 1939 May 1 - wish to Merlin W. Dutcher
15104 INVALID.
File No. _____
Salomon Dutcher
Brig Gen. War
March 7 1882
Index: — Vol. _____, Page 105
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Solo mon Dutcher

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims , of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Solomon Lulcher  of the County of ... which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? 24 XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? 24 XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? 24 XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? 24 XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 24
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

One dollar enclosed.
Eastern Office: Hartford, Conn.
Iowa Mortgage Company,
Western Office: Davenport, Iowa.
(CONNECTICUT CHARTER GRANTED JANUARY SESSION 1886.)
Collections a Specialty.
Officers: JEFFERY O. PHELPS, President. GEO. W. BAWDEN, Vice-President. J. O. PHELPS, JR. Sec. and Treas.
Western Attorney, GEORGE W. BAWDEN.
Advisory Committee: J. R. REDFIELD, R. H. ENSIGN. JEFFERY O. PHELPS.
Eastern Attorney: WM. WALDO HYDE.
Directors: JEFFERY O. PHELPS, Simsbury, Conn. JOHN R. REDFIELD, Hartford, Conn. JOHN W. WELCH, Hartford, Conn. O. B. ARNOLD, Meriden, Conn. SELAH A. HULL, Meriden, Conn. H. C. JOYNER, Great Barrington, Mass. JOHN S. CAMP, Hartford, Conn. R. H. ENSIGN, Simsbury, Conn.
E. J. CHAWFORD, West Haven, Conn. WM. WALDO HYDE, Hartford, Conn. W. F. FELLER, Hartford, Conn. J. O. ENDERS, Hartford, Conn. MILES R. PRESTON, Hartford, Conn. GEORGE W. BAWDEN, Muscatine, Iowa. J. O. PHELPS, JR., Hartford, Conn.
Simsbury, Conn., Oct 6th 1896
Friend Department Pres of the Am. A.
Enclosed please find $1.00
which I am told is the best for receiving the record of the pension which I desire.
When did Sergeant Solomon Butcher of the 1st Vermont Light Artillery Regiment Peter & Sons Company cease to receive his pension? Can you send me some time to prove that he was a pensioner.
My Inspector Solomon Butcher was for years a pensioner and died at the age of 82.
If this is not sufficient I will send more but please send me immediate what information you can as haste is imperative.
Yours sincerely, (see heading)
There may have been two Solomon Butchers not sure!

RECORD & PENSION OFFICE 259910 WAR DEPARTMENT
Simsbury Conn. Oct. 6. 1896
Solomon Dutcher Sergt 3rd Petal & Hodge Company 3rd Van Voert Regt Rev. War.
Mrs Jeffery O. Phelps incloses $1 00 for fee and asks when the above names (the ancestor) ceased to receive his pension, also for some- thing to prove that he was a pensioner and says if the amount ($1 00 ) is not sufficient she will send more.
Address: "Chief of the Record and Pension Office, War Department, Washington, D. C."
Record and Pension Office,
WAR DEPARTMENT,
Washington, October 8, 1896.
Respectfully transmitted to
The Commissioner of Pensions,
and the writer so informed.
The one dollar Treasury note re- ceived with the communication is herewith inclosed.
Mail Dir. Pension Off. Oct. 9-96.
$1 00 , but inclosed has been returned to writer, Oct 9 96.
F. M. Rye Chief Mail Dir
BY AUTHORITY OF THE SECRETARY OF WAR:
F. R. Ainsworth Colonel, U. S. Army, Chief of Office.
(300c) Per 7

Return of Seal
Chile - March 1, 1933.
Colonel P. J. ... Minister of War, Santiago, Chile. Sir:
I would like to know if it were possible to advise me if Colonel Dutcher , born 1870, died 1920, who served in the Chilean Army, received a pension for service in the Revolutionary War.
If you can tell me the name of his wife and the names of his children, if he had any, I will certainly be grateful.
I hope I can obtain this information from the Pension Department. If you have any information to give me, please enclose it in an envelope to be sent, I am
Stamp returned
(Miss) Florame Dutcher
1000 South ... Ave. Los Angeles, California.

Member--- Institute of American Genealogy Minnesota Historical Society
Member--- Holland Society of New York Dutch Settlers Society of Albany
MERLIN W. DUTCHER
GENEALOGIST
4827 34th Avenue South
MINNEAPOLIS
MINN.
March 6, 1939
Pension Bureau Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
✓ I am desireous of verifying some information relative to Solomon Dutcher.
Solomon Dutcher, was bap 1759 and d. 1858. He enlisted at Sheffield, Mass., to serve 8 months with Capt. Kriss's Company, Col. Ashley's Regt., June 9, 1779 (age 20). He was placed on the pension rolls, Otsego County, N. Y. at the age of 74. His wife's name was Tabitha Rorebeck. I would appreciate having you verify the above information and send me any additional data that may be available.
I have also this information:
✓ William Dutcher, might be listed as Ducher, b.circa 1763, served from Jan. 1, 1780 to Dec. 31, 1780; Jan. 1, 1781-Sept. 1781; Have you any information regarding this man?
William Woolcutt, b. Aug. 5, 1745-d. Mar. 4, 1829 in the 5th Regt. 1st Company, Jan. 6, 1777 to Jan. 1, 1780 under Col. Lewis Du Bois, also enlisted in the spring of 1775, with rank of Sgt. under Capt. Rosekrans N. Y. Did he get a pension and what date applied for? Were any children mentioned?
Any assistance that you may be able to give me will be greatly appreciated.
Yours very truly,
Merlin W. Dutcher

U. S. N. T. 2.1500 1. V. P.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS, WASHINGTON, D. C.,
October 11, 1880.
Madam:
Replying to your request for information concerning the military record of Olason Patcher, a soldier of the Revolutionary War, you are advised that he made application for pension September 24, 1832, at which time he was 73 years of age and residing in Osevere county, N. Y., and his pension was allowed for fifteen months and twenty-four days' actual service as a private in the New York troops, Revolutionary War; a part of the time he served under Capt. Cline and Col. Livingston. He enlisted in Albany county, N. Y.
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.
Mrs. Mary O. Phelps, Cimsbury, Conn.

May 1, 1939.
Merlin W. Dutcher 4827 - 34th Avenue, South Minneapolis, Minnesota.
BA-J/ILL Solomon Dutcher S. 15104 William Dutcher W. 15831
Dear Sir:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Solomon Dutcher, William Dutcher and William Woolcutt.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is impossible to comply in full with each request pertaining to soldiers of that war. The records of Solomon Dutcher and William Dutcher are furnished you herewith as found in pension claims based upon service in that war.
Very truly yours,
A. D. HILLER, Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

April 6, 1933
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Solomon Dutcher-S.15104 BA-J/AT
Miss Florence Dutcher 2742 Crown Point Avenue Omaha, Nebraska
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request information in regard to Solomon Dutcher, a Revolutionary War soldier from New York.
The data furnished herein were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S.15104, based upon the Revolutionary War service of Solomon Dutcher.
He was born June 13, 1759 in Ohlong, Dutchess County, New York; the names of his parents are not stated.
Solomon Dutcher enlisted, while residing in Livingston Manor, then Albany County, later Columbia County, New York, in 1777 and served about six weeks in Captain Cline's company, Colonel Livingston's regiment, and was in a battle near Saratoga, this service was four or five weeks before the surrender of Burgoyne. He enlisted in June, 1778 and served three months in Captain David Elder's company. He enlisted in October, 1778 and served one month at Cherry Valley, no officers given. He enlisted in 1779 was mustered at Great Barrington and rendezvoused at Springfield, Massachusetts and served nine months in Captain Parks' company.
He moved in 1780 to Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and in the fall of 1780 served two weeks at Fort Ann as guard, no officers given. In 1782

he served two weeks in a "party of rangers", and in 1783 served two weeks under Colonel Doty, in a scouting party against the Tories.
The soldier, Solomon Dutcher, was allowed pension on his application executed September 14, 1831, then a resident of Volney, Oswego County, New York.
There are no data in this claim relative to family.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person to whom sent, and possibly the date of death of the above noted pensioner, you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D. C., citing all of the following data-
Solomon Dutcher Certificate No. 14075 Issued May 9, 1833 Rate $32.84 per annum To commence March 4, 1831 Act of June 7, 1832 New York Agency
Very truly yours
A. P. MILLER Assistant to Administrator