Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 1663, James Forest, N.C.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Nb.
Forest James or Forrest
S. 1663
Born in Penn. CONTENTS
carded.

22, 144 West Tennessee
James Forrest.
at Warren Co. in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the Company command by Captain Johnson of the Reg't command by Col: Bell in the N.E. milia for 6 months. for
James Forrest. Records corrected
Inscribed on the Roll of W. Tennessee at the rate of 20 Dollars & 00 Cents per annum. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 14 day of October 1833 — and sent to J. B. Hodester. McMinnville Ten.
Arrears to the 4th of Sept. 1833 $50. — Sem-ant. allowance ending 4 mch 34 10.
$60. —
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Agt June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. L. Wilson Clerk,
book 8 Vol. 7 Page 78
Order to pay 4 Oct 1831.
Date of death not on A.B.

Forest
Dec. for Persian
James Forest
21931

State of Tennessee On this the 3 rd day of March County 3 October 1832 personally appeared in open Court before the Worshipful Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions for said County now in Session James Thornton a resident of said County who being first duly sworn according to law, took on his oath made the following declaration in order to attain the benefit of the Act of Congress passed the 7 th June 1832 that he resided during the Revolutionary War in the County of Orange State of North Carolina and that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated - the first tower of duty that he performed in defence of his Country. He entered the service in Captain Thomas Thompsons Company but cannot recollect the date. Genl. Patten was the Commander - these Troops were raised for the purpose of defending this Country against the British Forces and a small detachment of the British who about that time invaded Orange County - The Tories and British were commanded by Col. Fannin - the Whigs as before stated by Genl. Patten - the two parties engaged for battle in Orange County, near Findleys Mills on Can Creek of New River - in a short time the Whigs were overpowered by numbers and compelled to retreat - the enemy also retreated in the direction of Wilmington - On the next day Genl. Patten collected

His title Band together with some reinforcements and marched in pursuit of the Enemy but was not able to overtake them until they were succeeded by a strong detachment of the Infantry  Infantry from Wilmington- Genl. Butler finding himself unable to contend with a force so greatly superior to his, retreated after firing a few shots. This applicant was drafted and continued in service this town for three months, which time having expired, he was discharged near Wilmington and returned home. He was almost constantly engaged against the Forces from that time until the Battle of Kings Mountain. Same time for a few days only, and never more than a few weeks at any one time. These services were generally received under Capt. Thompson. Some short time before Fergusons defeat this applicant was again drafted for three months and marched from Orange County to Salisbury, where he was placed in Capt. Johnstons Company Col Bell Commandant of the Regiment. After remaining there some time, part of the prisoners taken at Kings Mountain were brought to Salisbury and there confined in Jail, and this applicant assisted in guarding them. After his three months expired, he was discharged and returned home and did not enter the service again.
He states that he belonged to the Militia and that he never was in Company with any Continental Troops. He believes that he received a written discharge but cannot recollect from whom for both the three

months Services which he performed - but they are long since either lost or destroyed; he therefore has no documentary evidence, or does he know of any person that the said Commission procured that can testify to his services. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the Pensions Roll of the Agency of any State.
James Forrest
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid - Jas Calville clk By L'Colville De
James Walker
We William Thompson a Clergyman residing in Macon County and William Mcgregor residing in the same County hereby certify that we are well acquainted with James Forrest, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be about 82 years of age - that he is respected and beloved in the neighborhood where he re- sides, to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid Jas Calville clk By L'Colville De
James Walker Wm Mcgregor

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter - and after perusing the Interrogatories presented by the War Department, that he above applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states - and the Court further states that it appears to them that Abraham Thompson  James Taylor who has signed the preceding Certificate is a Clergyman resident in the County of Warren, and that William McGregor who has also signed the same is a resident of the County of Warren, is a credible person, and that their Statement is entitled to credit.
James Taylor Deeds A. Higgens Deeds
James Barkley Deeds
Answer to the Interrogatories propounded by the Court:
Says he was Born the 24 th of January 1757 - in Chester County Pennsylvania. That he copied the outside from his Mother's Bible a Record of his age into one of his own.
That same year ago he purchased a large Family Bible and copied the Record of his in that which is all the Record evidence he has.
Says he lived in Orange County North Carolina.

When he was called into service - and continued to live there till about the year '94, when moved to Jefferson County East Tennessee, and remained there seven or eight years, and removed to Claiborne County - about the year 1813, he removed to Warren County, where he has lived ever since -
He was drafted the two three months towns which he performed - the short excursions after the Tories, he always served as a volunteer - he never served with any Regular Troops, and refers to his declaration for the general circumstances of his service -
He thinks he received written discharges for both the three months services, but cannot recollect from whom, or what has become of them, but supposes they are lost or destroyed.
He is acquainted with William McFriggor, Aaron Higginbotham, John Cain & Locke Stubbsfield.
I Joseph Caloille Clerk of said Court do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of application of Isaac Forrest for a pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my

Seal
hand and private seal there being no seal of office: this the day of October 1832
for Colville clerk By d Colville De
I know that Joseph Colville is Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter sessions for Warren County Tennessee & that Just Colville in whose hand write the above signature appears to be is his deputy and believe there is no official seal of said court June 28 th 1833
J.L. Isacks

21931.
Danny Forrest Warren Co. N. J.
from 17 - private 6 notes. $20.
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J. G. Forster McMinnville Warren Co. Ore.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
May 7 th 1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of James Forrest Warren Co. Tenn.
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Druthers 3 1 st Col Thompson NC 82 Orange NC Tradt   Northfield Ferguson's Defeat 3 " Col Johnson Col Bell "  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I, _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must fix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
W. L. Williams Ex. Clk

October 15, 1934
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Mrs. Virgil Idol 230 North Cherry Street Winston-Salem, North Carolina
JAMES FOREST S. 1663 BA-J/MLB aw
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of James Forest (or Forrest) who enlisted from Orange County, North Carolina, and served in Captain Thomas Thompson's company.
You are furnished herein his record as shown in pension claim, S. 1663, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War.
James Forest or Forrest was born January 24, 1751, in Chester County, Pennsylvania; the names of his parents are not given.
While a resident of Orange County, North Carolina, he enlisted, date not given, served three months in Captain Thomas Thompson's North Carolina company and was in the battle of Cane Creek. He next served various short tours until the battle of Kings Mountain under Captain Thompson and was engaged against the Tories. He then enlisted and served three months in Captain Johnston's company in Colonel Bell's North Carolina regiment and guarded the prisoners taken at the battle of Kings Mountain.
He resided in Orange County, North Carolina, until about 1794, when he moved to Jefferson County, East Tennessee, where he lived for seven or eight years; from thence to Claiborne County, where he remained until 1813, when he moved to Warren County, Tennessee.
James Forest (personal signature Forest, but pensioned Forrest) was allowed pension on his application executed October 3, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Warren County, Tennessee.
No reference was made in the claim to wife or children.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

Union Bank of Tennessee Nashville 23 d September 1839
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Dear Sir
At the request of Samuel Seay the attorney of W. James Stonest a Revolutionary Pensioner under the Act of the 7 th June 1832 and to whom there is one year's pension due up to the 4 th instant I herewith transmit you his Pension Identity for your examination and perusal of his being paid, W. Saml. Seay the attorney resides in this place you can either address him or the Office with Mr. Stonest's claim with your instruc- tions. Respectfully Sir
Yr. Obedt Servt John M. Baskin Pst & Pension Agent By S. Canfield

July 11, 1932
RA-J/MS XXXXXXXXXXXX JAMES FORREST S. 1663
Lucy Bender 388 Belle Avenue Bantoul, Illinois
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter relative to James Forrest, a soldier of the Revolutionary War.
The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in pension claim, S. 1663, based upon the Revolutionary War service of James Forrest (personal signature, Forrest, pensioned Forrest).
He was born January 24, 1751, in Chester County, Pennsylvania.
While a resident of Orange County, North Carolina, he enlisted, date not given, served three months in Captain Thomas Thompson's North Carolina company and was in the battle of Cane Creek. He next served various short tours until the battle of Kings Mountain under Captain Thompson and was engaged against the Tories. He then enlisted and served three months in Captain Johnston's company in Colonel Bell's North Carolina regiment and guarded the prisoners taken at the battle of Kings Mountain.
James Forrest resided in Orange County, North Carolina, until about 1794, when he moved to Jefferson County, East Tennessee, where he lived for seven or eight years; from thence to Claiborne County, where he remained until 1813, when he moved to Warren County, Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed October 3, 1832, at which time he was a resident of Warren County, Tennessee.

There are no data in the soldier's claim relative to wife or children.
Very truly yours
A. D. MILLER Assistant to Administrator

Oct 1 - 1937
Mr. A. D. Wilson Assistant Administrator, Telecommunications, Washington D. C.
My dear Mr. Wilson -
Will you kindly refer me to Rev. Dr. Leonard James Forest (as Forest) who acted of Orange Co. North Carolina Reverend in Capt. Stevens Illuminati North Carolina Confederacy -
Will you also give me copy of data from his papers re file in connection with his application for a

precious -
I will appreciate it if I may have a prompt reply -
Very sincerely yours.
Mrs Virgil Dobb 230 North Cherry St. Winston-Salem - North Carolina -
C A K

338 Belle Avenue Rantoul, Illinois May 21 RECEIVED OFFICE OF ASST. ADM.
MAY 27 1932
Mr. Hiller Vet. Adm. Washington, D. C.
PENSIONS & COMPENSATION
Referred to
MB
Dear Mr. Hiller:
Could you give me any information about a James Forrest , who served in Captain John Johnston's Company, Regiment of North Carolina Militia commanded by John Butler? He served and drew pay from September 8 to December 22, 1780.
Sincerely,
Lucy Bender Lucy Bender

New York
1663 INVALID.
1932 July 11 - Heir to Lucy Pender - m L B 1934 Oct. 15 - Heir to Mrs. Virgil Idob m B
File No. 1663 James Forrest. Miss N. G. Allen
Act: June 7, 1852.
Index: - Vol. 2 , Page 128
[Arrangement of 1870.]
James Forrest. Records corrected done as a