Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 44,847, James Forbes, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Forbes, James
S. 44847
CONTENTS

New York Rolls - (1417)
James Forbes - Capt Hamilton Surgeant
New York line 1777 to 1783 - 6y. In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence the 13 of April 1818
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 of June 1818 and sent to Mrs. Hildreth Esq. Johnstown. N.Y.
Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1818. Semi-annual account ending
4 mo 22/30ths $ 37 1/2 80
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818 }
Col Lamb see widow's application. Oppenheim, Montrose Garden

Paid at the Treasury under the Act of the 6 April 1836 from 4 Sept 1836 to 4 March 1837. Agent notified 15 June 1838.
Letter to J. J. Sherd. - 10 March 1845 Brown Spencer 18 Sept 1852. → this letter pertains to claim of James Forbes, S. 37928 + is now in dist claim
Notification sent Graham Johnson John McCarthy

and at the hearing with the Act of the 6th of April 1836 from 4 o'clock to 4 o'clock 1837 Agent notified 15 Jan 1838.
As to the 1st claim - 10 March 1845 Bureau of Mines 18 Sept 1842.
→ this latter portion is claim of James Forbes, S.379284 is now in that claim
Notification sent September John McCarthy, Johnstown

Comet Series
Las Atorah Esq. Johnson N.Y.

Montgomery County of James Forbes of the Town of Oppenheimer in the County of Montgomery and State of New York being sworn doth depose and say that he belonged to the continental Army during the Re- volutionary War, and served in the Regiment of Colonel John Lamb, being the Second Regiment of the New York Artillery Artillery for the term of seven years, that three or four years of which time he served as second sergeant and the rem- ainder of the time as a private soldier that he enlisted in the fall of one thousand seven hun- dred and seventy five in the company of Captain Alexander Hamilton and served one year that the beginning of the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy seven he re-enlisted into the company of Captain John Doughty in Colonel Lamb's Re- giment of Artillery Artillery being the same Regiment he served in under Captain Alexander Hamilton and continued therein during the War and was honorably discharged in one thousand seven hundred and eighty three at West Point in the State of New York and that his dis- charge and Warrant have been lost, that part of his officers are dead and he is unable to pro- cure the affidavits of the other not knowing where they live. That he is in indigent circumstances and stands in need of assistance from his country for his support that he has made diligent search in the town he resides and the adjacent towns

and cannot find any of his fellow soldiers whom he could apply to for their affidavits in support of his application and further this deponent saith not - James his  X Forbes mark
Signed and acknowledged this thirteenth day of April one Thousand Eight hundred and Eighteen before me James Hildreth one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for Montgomery County and State of New York
State of New York Montgomery County Js.
I John M c Carthy Clerk of Montgomery County do certify that James Hildreth before whom the foregoing affidavit  was taken was one of the Judges of the Court of common pleas in for the said County on the 13 th day of April 1818. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Office the 13 th day of April 1818
John M c Carthy

State of New York Montgomery County
Cornelius Hance late a Soldier in the Army of the Revolutionary War against the common Enemy being duly sworn saith - that he knows James Forbes the Soldier in the foregoing declaration and certificate of his honor Judge Hildreth named - that the said James Forbes served as a Sergeant in said War in Captain John Daughty company, Colonel Lamb's Regiment and New York Artillery for the time he specifies in his said declaration. And that he verily believes the facts stated by the said James Forbes in the foregoing declaration and certificate to be substantially true.
Sworn before me this 30 th day of April 1818
Cornelius his Hance (mark)
James Hildreth -
I James Hildreth Judge of the court of common Pleas of Montgomery as aforesaid do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said James Forbes did serve in the Revolutionary War against the common Enemy as stated in the foregoing declaration - and I am likewise satisfied that the other facts stated in that declaration are in like manner true - and I now transmit the proceedings and testimony taken and had before me to the secretary of War pursuant to the direction of the aforementioned act of congress - dated at Johnstown this 15 th day of May 1818
James Hildreth

1417 J. Forbes
Con
Sept 1918

State of New York
Montgomery County ss. On the 15 th day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty personally appeared James Forbes in open court in the court of common pleas held in & for the county of Montgomery aforesaid, being a court of record proceeding according to the course of the common law and having the power of fine and imprisonment. James Forbes aged sixty five years last October residing in the said County who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath declare that he served in the revolutionary war as follows to wit. He first enlisted in the City of New York in a company commanded by Capt. Alexander Hamilton and served for one year at the expiration of which time he enlisted for during the war in Captain Doughty's company in the second Regiment of Artillery commanded by Col. John Lamb and served in that corps during the war some part of which time he was a sergeant that he made a declaration and was placed on the pension lists on the thirteenth day of April 1818 & that the number of his certificate is 1417 and he solemly swears that he was a resident citizen of the United States on the eighteenth day of March 1818 and that he has not since that time by gift sale or in any manner disposing of any property or any part thereof with intent thereby to diminish the amount of his pension. He further declares that he is within the provisions of an act entitled an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary war passed the 18 th of March 1818 and that he has not nor has any person in trust for him any property or realties, contracts or debts due to him. Nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annexed & by me subscribed.

that I am by trade a Shoemaker but am too infirm to obtain thereby the necessary support of myself & family. that my family consists of myself and a wife aged fifty three years who is also considerably infirm and my son George aged sixteen years who is unable to do any thing towards supporting myself & wife by reason of being subject to fits & otherwise infirm.
Subscribed & sworn to in open court this 15 th day of June 1820
James his Forbes mark
Thomas Carthy Clerk
Schedule of Property to wit
Real Estate I have none Personal Estate to wit. One set of Shoemakers Tools. three pots. An iron kettle, one bake pot, one frying pan, five chairs. One bed, six brass forks. Six plates, three shirts. One looking glass, and the necessary clothing for myself & family Some other small articles of household furniture.
James his Forbes mark
State of New York Montgomery County Clerks Office I John McCarthy Clerk of the court of common pleas in and for the said county do hereby certify that the foregoing oath and the schedule thereto annexed are truly copied from the record of the said court. And I

further certify that it is from a true satisfaction of the said Court by the oath of two credible witnesses, and that it is the opinion of the said Court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid sche- dule is Fifteen Dollars. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court on the 15 th day of June 1820
Mem d Barth

Claim for Arrears of Pension
James Forbes.
Claim for amounts due his father Mother James the late James Forbes
Brown Spencer Atty for Claimant
Ogdenburgh, N.Y.

(1) State of New York. County of St Lawrence } ss:
At a Surrogate's Court held in & for the County aforesaid at Potsdam in said County, on the tenth day of May A.D. 1854. before said Court personally appeared James Forbes, who being duly sworn in open Court deponeth and says: That he (the said deponent) resides in the town of Oswegatchie in said County, that he is sixty six years of age and that he is the son and only heir living of James Forbes, deceased late of Morrisstown in said County, and of Margaret Forbes, deceased, late of Morrisstown aforesaid, who during the lifetime of said James Forbes was the lawful wedded wife of said James Forbes and who after the death of James Forbes was & remained his widow until her death. And deponent has been informed & verily believes, by his father, the said James Forbes, that he, James Forbes, the Elder, was a soldier in the Army of the United States during the war of the revolution & served during the whole of said war as an orderly sergeant.
And deponent knows that his father, the said James Forbes, obtained a pension for such services, from the United States in or about the year 1818 & continued to draw said pension

until & to the time of his death, which occurred and took place upon the 20th day of November 1839. which pension was at the rate of Ninety Six Dollars per year, for & during said time & was neither increased or diminished during said time.
That deponents said Father at the time he first obtained the said pension resided at Oppenheim, afterwards called St Johnsville, County of Montgomery State of New York.
And deponent further says that he has been informed by his Father, & by his Mother, the said Margaret Forbes and he has also seen & examined, many times, a Family Record, once belonging to said James Forbes, which has been in deponents possession until of late years, and deponent has diligently looked for the same when he supposed it to be, & has, after a diligent & protracted search for said record, failed in finding the same by which record he also is informed, and he has also been informed by his Father that the facts therein stated are correct. And deponent believing that the said Margaret Forbes was married to the said James Forbes on the fifteenth day of November in the year 1783, by the Reverend Mr Rosegrant of the County of Herkimer in said State. And of the children born to

them, none are living, except this deponent, although besides this deponent there was born to them two sons and one daughter, and deponent supposes & believes that they died without issue, or heirs, except himself.
And deponent further says that there is no Record of the Marriage of his Father & Mother and of their death as stated and of the fact of deponent being their Son as stated, other than a family record, which is referred to as aforesaid & which deponent believes to be lost; that this Register or Record was a family register or record, in the family of this deponent & that of his Father for as long as the memory of this deponent reaches.
That he has been told by his Father that the said Record or Register was written in the hand writing of one George R. Kim at the request & by the direction of deponent's father, said James Forbes the Elder, and the said Record has been in the possession of this deponent since the death of deponent's Father the said James Forbes.
And deponent further says that his Mother, the said Margaret Forbes died at Morris town aforesaid on the 9th day of January 1842.
And deponent further says that the said James Forbes the father of deponent and

5 Margaret Forbes, the mother of this deponent during the life time of said deponent's father until his death lived together as husband & wife and were accustomed to speak of each other as thus related to each other, and in the neighborhood where they resided were generally known and respected as husband & wife James Forbes
Subscribed & sworn in open court at the date first above mentioned, & I certify that I believe the said deponent, from his appearance to be of the age above stated & to be the man he represents himself to be in the foregoing deposition. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & the seal of this court Benjamin G. Baldwin Surrogate.

State of New York. County of St Lawrence } p:
At a Surrogates Court held in and for the County of St Lawrence aforesaid at Potsdam in said County on the tenth day of May A.D. 1854. before said Court due and full proof & evidence has been adduced of the death of James Forbes late of Morris Town, in said County, and his death took place on the 20th day of November 1839. as also of the death of Mrs Margaret Forbes late of Morris Town aforesaid widow of said James Forbes and her death took place at Morris Town on the ninth day of January 1842 and also due & full proof and evidence has been adduced before this Court of the heirs at law of said James Forbes and said Margaret Forbes, and it appears to this Court conclusively that James Forbes of Oswegatchie in said County the son of said James & Margaret Forbes deceased, is the only surviving heir at law of said James Forbes and Margaret Forbes deceased, late of Morris Town in said County.
In open Court, witness the hand and seal of said Court at the date first above mentioned
Benjamin G. Baldwin Surrogate.

Margaret Forbes, the mother of this deponent during the life time of said James Forbes & until his death lived together as husband & wife and were accustomed to speak of each other as thus related to each other, and in the neighborhood where they resided were generally known and reputed as husband & wife James Forbes
Subscribed & sworn in open court at the date first above mentioned, & I certify that I believe the said deponent, from his appearance to be of the age above stated & to be the man he represents himself to be in the foregoing deposition. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & the seal of this court Benjamin G. Baldwin Surrogate.

State of New York } County of St Lawrence }
p:
At a Surrogate's Court held in and for the County of St Lawrence aforesaid at Potsdam in said County on the tenth day of May A.D. 1854. before said Court due and full proof & evidence has been adduced of the death of James Forbes late of Morris Town, in said County, and his death took place on the 20th day of November 1839. as also of the death of Mrs Margaret Forbes late of Morris Town aforesaid widow of said James Forbes and her death took place at Morris Town on the ninth day of January 1842 and also due & full proof and evidence has been adduced before this Court of the heirs at law of said James Forbes and said Margaret Forbes, and it appears to this Court conclusively that James Forbes of Oswegatchie in said County the son of said James & Margaret Forbes deceased, is the only surviving heir at law of said James Forbes and Margaret Forbes deceased, late of Morris Town in said County.
In open Court, witness the hand and seal of said Court at the date first above mentioned
Benjamin G. Baldwin Surrogate.
Wore gown -

State of New York County of Delaware } p.
Personally appeared before me a justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid Christian H. Klock, of Morristown in said county, who being duly sworn says that he is 47 years of age, that he formerly resided in the town of Oppenheim, county of Montgomery State aforesaid, that he was then acquainted with James Forbes & Margaret Forbes, since deceased, late of Morristown aforesaid. That he was acquainted with each of them after they moved from Montgomery County to Morristown and until the death of each of them at Morristown aforesaid which occurred to the said James Forbes in the year 1839, and that he knew said Margaret Forbes until her death, which occurred in the year 1842 at Morristown aforesaid. And deponent says, that said James Forbes & Margaret Forbes, during the life time of said James, & during the acquaintance of this deponent with them lived together as husband & wife called & treated each other as such and were generally regarded in the community.

whom they resided as husband & wife and they reared a family of children as such. & deponent fully & firmly believes they were lawfully wedded to each other as man & wife. And deponent knows the said Margaret Forbes to have remained the widow of said James Forbes until her death as aforesaid
Christian J Klock
Sworn & Subscribed on this twenty first day of July A D 1834 before me and I certify that I am not in any manner interested in the claim to which the foregoing affidavit relates nor am I the prose attorney prosecuting the same.
Henry Schoffele Justice of the Peace
St Lawrence County ss
William Walcutt being duly sworn says that he has heard the foregoing affidavit of Christian J Klock, read and knows the contents thereof, and that the same is true of deponent's knowledge. That he deponent was well acquainted with the said James

well acquainted with the said James Deaths. which occurred at Morristown as stated in said Block's affidavit And deponent, knows them to have always lived together, & to be generally regarded as man & wife, & they called each other as such. And they were generally reputed to have been legally joined in marriage and deponent firmly & fully believes they were. That deponent is eighty one years of age. William H. Block
Sworn Subscribed this twenty first day of July 1832. before me and I certify that I am in no wise interested in the claim to which the foregoing affidavit relates nor am the attorney by whom the same is prosecuted.
STATE OF NEW YORK, St. Lawrence County, Clerk's Office,
} ss.
I, GEORGE S. WINSLOW, Clerk of said County of St. Lawrence, and also Clerk of the Courts of Record directed by law to be held therein, do hereby certify, that Henry Booker before whom the annexed affidavit was made, was, at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and duly authorised to take the same; and I further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice, and verily believe his signature to the jurat of the annexed affidavit is genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said County and Courts, this 25 day of August 1832
George S. Winslow CLERK.

well acquainted with the said James Deaths. which occurred at Morristown as stated in said Klock's affidavit And deponent, knows them to have always lived together, & to be generally regarded as man & wife, & they called each other as such. and they were generally reputed to have been legally joined in marriage and deponent firmly & fully believes they were. That deponent is eighty one years of age. William H. Klock
Sworn & subscribed this twenty first day of July 1832. before me and I certify that I am in no wise interested in the claim to which the foregoing affidavit relates nor am I the attorney by whom the same is prosecuted.
Henry Woodhull Sister of the spouse

State of New York St Lawrence County ss.
Personally appeared before me Henry Hooker a justice of the Peace in and for the county aforesaid Christian J Klock of Morristown in the said county who being by me duly sworn according to law deposes and says that he is 47 years of age, that he formerly resided in the town of Oppenheim in the County of Montgomery in the said State of New York, that he was there acquainted with James Forbes and his family that the said James Forbes moved with his family to Morristown, St Lawrence County, and state aforesaid - where he the said James Forbes died in the the month of November in the year 1839 - that he understood that the said Forbes was a Revolutionary Pensioner - that he was acquainted with the widow of the said James Forbes and that she died in the year 1842, that he this deponent is acquainted with James Forbes the son of the said Forbes above mentioned, that he knew the said James Forbes the younger as well in Oppenheim aforesaid as ever since his residence in Morristown that he now resides in Oswegatchie in the said County of St Lawrence and that he the said James Forbes the younger who is present at the execution of this affidavit is the identical person above mentioned as the son of the said

James Forbes, the elder - and this deponent further say not - Subscribed and sworn to before me this 30 th day of March 1854 Henry Hooker Justice of the peace
Christian J. H. Lock
STATE OF NEW YORK, St. Lawrence County, Clerk's Office,
ss Symanc H. Dreyfuss Deputy
I, GERMAN  GERMAN Clerk of said County of St. Lawrence, and also Clerk of the Courts of Record directed by law to be held therein, do hereby certify, that Henry Hooker before whom the annexed affidavit was made, was, at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and duly authorised to take the same; and I further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice, and verily believe his signature to the jurat of the annexed affidavit is genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said County and Courts, this 5 th day of April 1854
Symanc H. Dreyfuss Clerk.

State of New York St Lawrence County ss.
Personally appeared before me Henry Hooker a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County William Walrath of Morristown in said County who being by me duly sworn deposes and says that he is eighty one years of age, that he formerly resided in the town then called Oppenheim Palatine afterwards Oppenheim and now called St Johnsville in the County of Montgomery in the said State of New York, that he was there acquainted with James Forbes, that he first became acquainted with the said Forbes in the year 1790. that he continued to be acquainted with him until the time of his death which took place in 1839 at Morristown in St Lawrence County New York. The said James Forbes was a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States. That he this deponent was likewise acquainted with James Forbes the son of the above mentioned James Forbes who was born in the said town of Palatine and has known the said James Forbes the son since the time of his birth up to the present time, that he now resides in the town of Oswegatchie in the said County of St Lawrence. and that he the said James Forbes the son who is now present is the

identical person above mentioned - as the son of James Forbes the elder -
Subscribed and sworn before me this 30 th day of March 1854
William Windom
Henry Hooker Justice of the peace
STATE OF NEW YORK, St. Lawrence County, Clerk's Office,
ss. Symon S. Engalls Deputy I, ADAM S. WINDOM Clerk of said County
of St. Lawrence, and also Clerk of the Courts of Record directed by law to be held therein, do hereby certify, that Henry Hooker before whom the annexed affidavit was made, was, at the time of taking the same, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and duly authorised to take the same; and I further certify that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice, and verily believe his signature to the jurat of the annexed affidavit is genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said County and Courts, this 5 th day of April 1854.
Symon S. Engalls CLERK.

19 Pension Office. 18 th Sept. 1854.
Gentlemen,
The application of James Forster for an increase of the pension heretofore allowed James Forster dec d of New York, has been received.
The testimony upon which the Court found that James died on 20 th Nov r 1839 and that his widow Margaret died 9 th January 1842 should be exhibited before this Office. The witnesses should refer to some particular event, by which to test the accuracy of their recollection. Who were the other children? When and where did they die? The date of the marriage of James and Margaret has not been proved. The Certificate by which James drew his pension should be returned to this Office.
In the application in behalf of Margaret dec d widow of James

it appear that her husband was a pensioner and died in 1839, and that she died 9 th January 1842, and that their marriage occurred on 15 th Novem. 1783. This being the case there is no claim on her account the wi- dows account for she did not sur- vive the passage of the joint Resolu- tion of Congress of 16 th August 1842.
John Brown & Spencer
Sept. 1842 Br.
Messrs Brown & Spencer. Ogdensburgh. N. Y.

OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL RECEIVED MAR 24 1936
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James Forbes
N.Y. 18 m 1818.
Quiditon
Hon S. J. Waldo.
Col e to Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.

James Forbes
N.Y. Mar 18 m 1818
Quinton
Hon d S. P. Waldo.
Col d
Friend
Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C.

44 847
Rev
INVALID.
Rev
File No. 44 847
James Forbes
Sergt. Rev. War.
Act: 18 th March 1818.
Index:—Vol. 3, Page 175—
[Arrangement of 1870.]

James Forbes, paid to 4 Sept 1839.
W. A. Stanton
Actg. 3rd Auditor

Pension Office 11 th Sep r 1854.
New York Roll.
Act 18 th March 1818.
$96. per annum.
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Sam. Forbes.
To what time paid?
When did he die?
S. Cole.
for Cous
Third Chastleton .

Under the rule as established by the Commr. & Auditor, the papers on which any new claim in this case, is founded, will be required before the information can be given.
M. J. Taylor Actg. Bd. Auditor

Treasury Department,
SECOND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE,
June 12 - 1838.
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States," Frances Farber a Pensioner on the Roll of the Albany Agency, at the rate of -- eight Dollars and -- " -- Cents per annum, under the law of the 18 th March 1818 has been paid at this Department, from the 4 th of Sept. 1834 to the 4 th of March 1837 $ 40
Respectfully, yours,
Abner K. Parrish Comptroller
To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS, Present.

Claim for Arrears of Pension of James Forbes of Morrisstown N.Y.
Being the amount to which Claimants father & mother, James Forbes & Margaret Forbes, were entitled to before their death
Statement of case accompanied with affidavits of James Forbes mother & certificates
1 st
James Forbes, deceased, late Morrisstown N.Y. formerly of Oppenheim, County of Montgomery State of New York, was an orderly sergeant, in the service of the United States in the war of the Revolution and under Act of Congress of March 18 th 1818, became entitled to, applied for, & received, a pension of eight dollars per month, from about the year 1818, to and until his death, which occurred Nov. 20 1839. The rank of James Forbes in the Revolutionary Army was that of Orderly Sergeant, according to his statements while living and as the Rolls on file, will probably indicate.
2 nd
By the act of Congress of June 7 th 1832, said James Forbes, became entitled to an increase of pension sufficient to make his pension equivalent to his pay according to his rank in the service, namely Rank Orderly Sergeant, Pay ten dollars per month, and such increase commenced by said act March 4 th 1831. The increase would be at the rate of two dollars per

month in his case from the last mentioned date to the date of his death Nov 20 th 1839.
This increase of pension he never received and probably never knew that he was entitled to it and never applied for the same.
The claimant refers to the rolls on file to support the statement of service and his father's rank in the service.
8 d
James Forbes died Nov 20 1839. & left him surviving, his widow Margaret Forbes. To whom he was married November fifteenth 1783.
Margaret Forbes remained the widow of James Forbes until January 9 th 1842, at which date she departed this life still a widow.
By act of Congress July 7 1838, or by other acts existing in force at the time of the death of said James Forbes, said Margaret Forbes became and was entitled to a pension, from and after the death of said James Forbes, to and until her death, at the rate her husband was entitled when living.
namely ten dollars per month.
Margaret Forbes received no pension during her life time after her husband's death and probably she never made application for the same.

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James Forbes, the claimant & the son & sole heir at law of the said James Forbes & Margaret Forbes. Claims as now due to him as such son & heir, the amount to which his father & mother, the said James and Margaret Forbes, were entitled to during their life time and which was never received by them as follows.
First
The increase of Pension to which James Forbes was entitled to from March 4 th 1831, to the time of his death Nov. 20, 1839 at the rate of two dollars per month
Amount of same $209.00
Second
The Pension to which Margaret Forbes was entitled to as the widow of James Forbes, from Nov 20, 1839, to January 9 th 1842 the last date being the date of her death, at the rate to which said James Forbes, was entitled during his life time namely Ten dollars per month
Amount of same, $256.32
Total Amount claimed $465.32
Brown & Spencer, Attys for James Forbes, Claimant Ogdenburgh N.Y.

Ogdenburgh Sept 4 1834.
To the Hon. Comm e of Pensions.
Dear Sir, The foregoing is a statement of the claim of James Forbes. Supported by the following affidavits and certificates. We are not very familiar with the practice in your department but suppose we have established enough to cause you to have the claim fully examined, and ourselves informed of the result, and any further formalities or evidence made necessary by your rules &c. We will supply if able, on being informed of its necessity & character. The claimant supported his aged father & mother, to & until their death. We have not supposed that proof of this fact, would affect the claim, if so, we will forward the proof, as also of the fact that claimant was & is yet a very poor man pecuniarily . Yours truly Brown Spencer.