Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 3699, John Founder, Penn.

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Penn
Founder, John
R. 3699
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35.890 John Rounder Pennsylvania

In the Matter of the Claim of John Founders State of Pennsylvania } S.S. City of Philadelphia } S.S.
Personally appeared in Open Court of Common Pleas for the City & County of Philadelphia on the 28 th day of September A.D. 1842. John Founders who being duly sworn according to Law - Saith that he is now eighty Years of age, and that he makes the declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the act of Congress of June 7, 1832  July 1832 entitled An act supplementing to the act for the relief of certain surviving officers & soldiers of the Revolution That Deponent is a native of the City of Philadelphia and was raised at Philadelphia in the Year 1778 or 79 and he cannot say which owing to the defect of his memory from his advanced age. That he grew up which before was that he has always been a free born being Man and had no money to pay. He could have have applied here but his present Counsel requiring no money from him. That he marched from the City to a Shop and was boxed in the Delaware and went to Princeton New Jersey. From thence they marched to Morris town New Jersey where the Army lay in Huts in the shape of a Town. That he enlisted in the Captain John McCowan in Colonel Butts Regiment. That Deponent was in the Pennsylvania Line and remained there about two Years. That he was present at the time of the revolt of the Pennsylvania Line and was in the capacity of a Drummer. He was compelled to go to the rear and they marched to Princeton New Jersey. They encamped there a short at the College two or three days and then went to Princeton  Philadelphia  New Jersey  Philadelphia . Deponent was left behind at Princeton Deponent staid there and worked for a Farmer - Depe

that now received my discharge - but was out two Years - He was out and again during the war - Sworn & on his bed Before Me this 28 th day of September A.D. 1842 The several creases and interlineations being first made -
his John F. Forster mark
James Campbell
Tuesday Oct 2 nd 1842 Personally appeared in Open Court of Common Pleas for the City & County of Philadelphia between John Forster, who being duly affirmed saith that he is well acquainted with the above named John Forster and has known him for about two Years, and knows him to be a respectable and worthy man every way worthy of belief upon his oaths affirmed and subscribed Before Me this 28 th day of Sept 1842.
H. Sweet
James Campbell Judge Ch. C. Pleas.
I certify that it has been duly proved Before Me that John Forster is a man of integrity and res- pectability worthy of belief upon his oaths respectfully subscribed this 28 th day of Sept. 1842
James Campbell Judge Court C. Pleas
Pennsylvania Philadelphia County } ss.
I Samuel Hart Esq. Brother- -at-law of the Court of Common Pleas of said County Do Certify that the Hon. James Campbell Esq. by whom the foregoing Certificate and attestation were made and given

and whom his own proper hand writing has thereunto subscribed his name was at the time of so doing and now is one of the Judges of the said Court of Common Pleas (which is a Court of Record and of Law) duly commissioned and qualified to all whose acts as such full faith and Credit are and ought to be given as well in Courts of Indictment as elsewhere.
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Court at Philadelphia this 28th. September. 1842.
J. Hart Notary Public
This may certify that the Bear John Founders has been for many years a member of the Methodist E. Church. and is now under my pastoral care.
Mr. Wiggins
Pastor of the Warrenton Methodist E. Church, Philadelphia
Sep. 29, 1842

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
3699.
P. O.
John Founder
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.

C. J. Jack
11. Oct. 1842

Pen Offin
Oct: 11, 1842
Sir,
Your letter of the 7 th inst. enclosing one from the Secretary of State of Penn a in the case of John Lounder has been received and filed. There is ample evidence here that Captain McGowan belonged to the 4 th Pennsylvania regt. but none whatever of the service of the applicant either in his Captain McGowan's company or in any other company whatever. If he did serve as alleged, the most ample and satisfactory proof of his service should be produced.
C. I. Lacks Esq. Philadelphia
35,395 at 32. cts.

Pen Offin
403
Sep: 30. 1842
Sir,
The papers in the case of John Potender have been examined and filed. He alleges to have enlisted in Philadelphia in 1778, or '79 under Captain John McCormac and Col. Butler, and served two years, that he was a drummer. The claim is considered very doubtful. If he had served as an enlisted soldier, it is improbable that he would not have availed himself long since, of the benefits of the act of 7 Feb y March 18, 1818, or at a subsequent period of the act of 7 June 1832. His statement of his service is not corroborated by the records of service in this office, nor is it such as to induce a belief that he enlisted served as an enlisted soldier for the time alleged.
L. I. Jack Esq. Philadelphia
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35-395
Mo. Foundry Penn
3699
1832

J L Schwartz Esquire
Dear Sir,
I am requested by Mr John Fowle to be done in the 1st the letter of the Secretary of the Navy showing that Captain John McCowan did serve under Col Butler in 1778. and that there was no roll containing the names of his men among the records of the State. I wrote of mine own accord to the Sec- retary, and this is his answer. I am forwarded from Fowle's statement that he is speaking of the title - You seem to think "the Claim is undued very much felt" The reason for this, I presume as then stated in the latter part of Your letter - Any presumption against the claim arising from neglect to avail him- self here to prove, of the benefit of the Acts of Congress referred to, ought not in my judgement to have any weight against the claim 1 Because he shows that his only reason could be poverty to employ an agent to prosecute his claim. 2 Because there is no thing in the Act of Congress which makes it a Statute of Limitation - I presume from a passage in Your letter that there is proof (although in this I may be in error) of his having served as an enlisted soldier, although not for the time alleged - The corroborative proof from our State Records shows that his statement of there being a Captain John McCowan, who served under Col Butler, in the 4th Regiment in 1778. is substantially

Correct - I mention also, that in some of the Boston City I have referred to, the Secretary stated, that previous to the year 1840, the State Records of the Revolutionary Service of our Troops, were altogether deficient and imperfect - That Certificates I sent you - The character of the Founder and the appearance of the Man although a perfect stranger to me is such as to have no doubt in my mind of his being a man of integrity - He is poor as they all are - and I in- dulge the hope that a Pension may be granted him, even if for a less time than the two years -
Yours sincerely
C. S. Dack
Philadelphia Oct 7. 1842

J. L. Edwards Esq. Sir
I transmit with this the paper of John Foulcher claiming a Pension under the act of 1832. He explains the reason of not making an earlier ap- plication - I presume that none of us will know how far his story is true, he cannot accompa- ny, by very respectable people to my notice.
Phila da Sept 28. 1842
Yours affecly C. J. Sack

Secretaries office Hambling 7 th Oct 1872
P. L. Gatch Esq r ,
Sir
Yours of the 3 rd inst was duly recd, and I have caused diligent search to be made in this office, but can find no record of the enlistment or record of service by John Forster as a soldier of the revolution -
All that is, that Capt. M c Govern served under Lieut. Col. Butler, 4 th Regt. in 1778 but we can find no roll containing the names of his men -
I am yours respectfully A. V. Parsons Secy of the Commonwealth