Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 8140, Reuben Cave, Va.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Care, Reuben
S. 8140
Carded
CONTENTS

12.691. Virginia
Reuben Gave.
of Page C o in the State of Virg a who was a Private in the Comp y commanded by Captain Stithley of the Reg t commanded by Col o  Dabney in the Virginia line for 3 years.
Inscribed on the Roll of Virginia at the rate of 80. Dollars 00 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 20. day of May 1833. and sent to Mrs A. Harris, Page C. H. - P.O. Virg a Luray. P.O. Arrears to the 4th of March, 1833. 160. Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sept r 33. 40.
$ 200.00
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by Wm. Palmer Clerk Book B. Vol. six. Page 4.
Letter to Hon. J. S. Pennycuick. 20 th Jan y 1838
Dup. Certificate issued 13 July 1838. and sent to Hon. J. S. Pennycuick. H. B.
Death not on A.R.

Reuben Gave
20755

State of Virginia County of Page
On this day of November 1832 Personally appeared in open Court before, Dan Snickler, Inert State, Dan Blofer & John H Roads Justices of the County Court of Page now sitting Reuben Bare a resident in said County of Page and State of Virginia aged Ninety four years, who being first duly sworn according to Law, doth on his Oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832, That he entered the service of the United States under the following officers and served as herein stated
That he was a resident of the County of Spotsylvania and was bound to William Hutchison about 15 miles from Fredericksburg, and that I remained with him 2 years after my freedom, That I remained in the County as Overseer in the employment of Andrew Manum, Frank Coleman, and others up to the year 1776, and in that year there was a recruiting party at Capt Roland Thomas's in Orange County about 12 miles from where I lived, I started there and enlisted under Captain George Stubbelfield in the State Regulars for the term of three years, and he sent me with some other soldiers under Serg t Bob Plumer to Williamsburg to be trained under a French Captain named William Clumner, who commanded the Artillery

we then marched to York town where we remained about two months, we then marched to Valley Forge under the command of Col Charles Dabney from Henrico County of the State of Virginia 2 nd Regiment - I was now commanded by Captain John Mucklehany from London, Lieut. J. P. Wilson & Ensign Edmundson, and Major Lee, the whole commanded by Genl. Malenburg, we then marched to New Windsor, we were pursued from this place by the British and had like to loose our Baggage, we then retreated to the top of New Windsor mountain, we encamped here for 2 months from thence to Ramapo, where we took up Winter quarters In the Spring of 1777 I believe, we moved down East River near a place called the Red house, where we remained in that vicinity 6 months, from thence down the forks of East and North River, to the white plains, and while there we rec d news that the Espions were taken at Phillips Mills, at which time we were again ordered to Ramapo, we quartered there that Winter on half allowance, and retreated and advanced in that neighbourhood for 12 months - I was at the storming of Mud point Fort, under Capt. Mucklehany, we took possession of the fort at the point of the Bayonet, at which place Dabney acted as our Colonel; some time after this our Regiment was ordered on to Virginia to Reinforce Genl. Wayne, against Lord Corn Wallis, we then marched to Gifford Court house in North Carolina and my term of enlistment having expired I rec d a discharge from Capt. Mucklehany countersigned

by Col Charles Dabney, and my discharge I lost about two years after I quit the service, I have no Record of my Age but I counted from the date of my apprenticeship to the time of my Enlistment, and the different places where I lived in Spotsylvania after I was free to that time, which made me thirty seven or thirty eight years old, from that time I counted up to the Declaration of the War with England, at which time I was too old for service, I was too old at the time of the Chesapeake affair before the late War, but thought we ought to fight the British then; my oldest son if now living would be upwards of 51 years old, all these prominent circumstances with the age of my Wife, my Marriage &c, Confirms me in my mind that I am 94 years old, My Recollection is not so strong, as to enable me to name circumstances during the Revolutionary War as it was even some years back, when I made application to obtain a Pension under former laws, in which I was defeated for the want of sufficient proof; I am now old , and poor , and cannot read, or write, and I am suffering for many of the necessaries of life, some time after the Revolutionary War, I removed to Shenandoah County (now Page) 52 years ago; this County 2 years since was taken from Shenandoah County; My name will be found at the War Office in Washington if a Muster Roll was returned by either of the Officers, which I have named; I cannot live long at any rate, and my Country may yet cheer my drooping spirits before I die.
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a Pension or annuity except the present, and Declare that my name is not in the Pension Roll of the Agency of any State
Sworn to, and subscribed the day and year aforesaid Reuben his Cave mark

Isaac Limberger We Wm. R. Almond and Isaac Limberger residing in the County aforesaid hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Reuben Gave who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be 94 years of Age that he is reputed & believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed to the day & year aforesaid. Wm. R. Almond Isaac Limberger
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant Reuben Gave was a Revolutionary soldier & served as he states and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Wm. R. Almond, Isaac Limberger and Jacob Limberger who has signed the preceding Certificate are residing in the County aforesaid and that all of them who have signed the same is a resident of the County of Page and are creditable persons and that their statements are entitled to credit, and the Court further certifies that William R. Almond a Witness came into Court and made oath that while he was a member of the Virginia Legislature in 1826, the before named Reuben Gave got him to introduce a Bill in the lower house to obtain a Pension for his service as a soldier in the Revolutionary War and that the Auditor transmitted to the House a Certificate that the name of the said Reuben Gave appeared on the Muster Roll of the Virginia Troops, that served in the Revolution, and from all the proof before the House they were satisfied, and a Bill passed allowing a Pension to the said Reuben Gave, But it was lost in the Senate.
In consequence of a determination in that body not to grant Pensions unless the soldier applying had been wounded or disabled in the service, and in the absence of this last part of the Bill for the Relief of Reuben Gave was lost in that body. and the said Wm. R. Almond further stated to the Court that he has understood for years past that the sd. Gave served in the War of the Revolution, and the Court doth further certify, that Wm. R. Almond the Witness is a resident of the County of Page a man of truth and entitled to full credit.
State of Virginia.
Page County, to wit:
I, William A. Harris, Clerk of the County Court of Page, do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of Reuben Gave for a pension.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the official seal of my said office this 27. day of

was a member of the Virginia Legislature in 1826, the before named member came for him to introduce a Bill in the lower house to obtain a Pension for his Service as a Soldier in the Revolutionary War and that the Auditor transmitted to the House a Certificate that the name of the said Reuben Cave appeared on the Muster Roll of the Virginia Troops, that served in the Revolution, and from all the proof before the House they were satisfied, and a Bill passed allowing a Pension to the said Reuben Cave, But it was lost in the Senate
In consequence of a determination in that body not to Grant Pensions unless the Soldier applying had been wounded or disabled in the Service, and in the absence of this last part of the Bill for the Relief of Reuben Cave was lost in that body. and the said W m R. Almond further stated to the Court that he has understood for years past that the s d Cave served in the War of the Revolution, and the Court doth further Certify, that W m R. Almond the Witness, is a resident of the County of Page a man of truth and entitled to full credit.
State of Virginia
Page County, to wit:
I, William A. Harris, Clerk of the County Court of Page, do hereby certify, that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of Reuben Cave for a pension.
In Testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the official seal of my said office this 27. day of Nov. 1832.
W m A. Harris C.C.

20756 12691 Reuben Lane Va
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WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Benjamin Lane Page 10
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.      176  to start line   13  {   Capt. J. H. D.  1st Ky. Inf.   Col. D. D. Lee  Genl. Beauregard   94  Spotsylvania   Tradg. &  if as a sol.   
See Certificate of Mr. Richmond at the close of the service
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this _____ day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution; and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. _____ who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [j] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
W. L. Williams Q. Adm

August 17, 1937.
Donna Harper DeVio 1130 Parker Detroit, Michigan.
BA-J/ILL Reuben Cave S. 8140
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the record of Reuben Cave, a pensioner of Page County, Virginia, in 1835 and cite, also, Reuben Cave--(Shenandoah) H.D. Dec. 1821, 24 and Reuben Cave--H.D. Dec. 1826, 39; B N., probably the same man.
The record of Reuben Cave, the pensioner cited by you, is furnished herein as found in pension claim, S. 8140, based upon his service in the Revolutionary War, and is the record of the only soldier with that name found on the pension records of that war.
The date and place of birth of Reuben Cave and the names of his parents are not shown in this claim. He served his apprenticeship in Spotsylvania County, Virginia, about fifteen miles from Fredericksburg, and remained after that as an overseer in that county until 1776.
He enlisted in 1776, at the time "there was a recruiting party at Capt. Roland Thomas's in Orange County about twelve miles from where I lived", served as private in Captain George Stubblefield's and John McElheney's companies, Colonel Charles Dabney's Virginia regiment and was discharged at Guilford Court House, North Carolina, having served three years; during the period of his service, he was stationed in Virginia, from there went to Valley Forge, was at the storming of Mud Island Fort, was stationed near New Windsor, also at Ramapo, was afterwards ordered to Virginia against Lord Cornwallis and from there went to North Carolina.
After the Revolutionary War, Reuben Cave moved to Shenandoah County, Virginia, where he continued to reside until 1832, at which time a part of said county had been incorporated as Page County, Virginia.
Reuben Cave was allowed pension on his application executed November 27, 1832; he gave his age then as ninety-four years. He referred

then to his wife and to his oldest son who "if now living would be upwards of fifty-one years old"; Reuben Cave did not state the name of his wife, date of their marriage, nor the names of any children. The soldier's pension certificate was sent to Mann Almond, of Luray, Virginia.
In 1832, one William R. Almond, a resident of Page County, Virginia, stated that while he was a member of the Virginia Legislature in 1826-7, a Bill was introduced in the Lower House and passed, allowing pension on account of service of Reuben Cave in the Revolutionary War, but that the Bill was lost in the Senate, in consequence of a determination of that body not to grant pensions unless the soldier applying had been wounded or disabled in the service.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, name of person paid, and , possibly, the date of death of this pensioner, you should write to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city, and furnish the following:
Reuben Cave Certificate #12691 Issued May 20, 1833 Rate $80 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831. Act of June 7, 1832. Virginia Agency.
Very truly yours,
GEORGE H. SWEET, Acting Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

1937-Aug. 17- Hist. to Donna H. De Vries J.L.L.
Rechecked
8140
✓ INVALID.
File No. 8140
Roebelen Cave
Prim. Rev. War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. Per , Page 58
[Arrangement of 1870.]

In- at Feb 12
Mr. Evans,
To)
The Commission of Pensions
Washington City
D. C.
Mr. J. S. Pennybacker H.R.

February the 10 th / 1838. Washington City -
Sir,
The enclosed papers will explain themselves. I hope that they are sufficiently formal to ensure the object for which I send them to you. -
If the certificate should be issued, please send it to me as soon as convenient, in order that the old soldier may receive his pension, as soon as possible. -
Respectfully,
Your Obedt Servt J. S. Pennybacker

County of Page and state of Virginia, S.S.
On this 16 th day of February 1838 Before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace for the said county of Page personally appeared Reuben Gares who on his oath, declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain McAlister in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Dobey in the service of the United States, that his name was placed on the pension Roll of the state of Virginia that he received a certificate of that fact under the signature and seal of the secretary of War, which certificate on or about the 4 th of Oct September 1837 in the town of Harnady was in the hands of Mann Almond to draw his pension and he the said Mann Almond did lose the said certificate
Sworn and subscribed Reuben his Gares (S) to before me the day and (S) mark Year aforesaid
Dani Bleser J.P.
Dani Bleser
County of Page & State of Virginia ss on this 16 th day of February 1838 before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace for the said county of Page, personally appeared Mann Almond who on his oath declares that he did have in his possession Reuben Gares pension certificate and that about the 4 th of September 1837 he did lose or mislay the said certificate since which time it cannot be found.
Sworn and subscribed Mann Almond to before me the day and year above written
Dani Bleser J.P.
Dani Bleser

Page County and State of Virginia ss on this 6 th day of February 1838 before me the subscriber as Justice of the Peace for the said county of Page personally appeared David Verner who on his oath declares that he has been and now is well acquainted with Reuben Gave the person who now makes application to the War Depart- ment, for a new pension certificate, that he is the iden- tical Reuben Gave who has been receiving a pension from the United States for several years past Sworn and subscribed to before me the day and year aforesaid Daniel Blopsen J.P.
Page County and State of Virginia ss I Daniel Blopsen a Justice of the Peace for the county aforesaid do hereby certify that the above named David Verner is a respectable man and is entitled to credit for any statement he may make, given under my hand this 6 th day of Feb- ruary 1838 Daniel Blopsen J.P.
State of Virginia: Page County - To Wit: I William A. Harris, Clerk of the County Court of Page hereby certify, that Daniel Blopsen is a Magistrate as above stated, and that the said signature purporting to be his, are genuine. In Witness whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the official seal of my said office this 6 th day of February 1838. William A. Harris C.C.

Sunay Va February 7th 1838
C. Allen
The Honorable Isaac T. Pennybacker
Member of Congress.
Washington City
Hon. I. T. Pennybacker RR

Suray 16th February 1838
Dear Sir
I herewith send you the necessary certificates (I presume) to obtain the renewal of Reuben Gares pensional certificate, should the papers not be formal enough I hope it may make no serious difference, as I am sure there is no fraud intended, at any rate the old man will not trouble the country long as he is upwards of ninety years of age and is very feeble. I can assure you that a majority of your Page friends are with you in the course you have taken in Congress, we go against the influence of Banks and wish a speedy divorce of government from them (we have too many Banks), and without the people in those states unanimously determined to rid themselves of them, in a good degree, we never can have a sound currency, with wishing you health and prosperity, and advancement in the councils of state, I remain
your friend and Isaac S. Penabacker fellow citizen Mary Almond Esq.
As Please to enclose to me the certificate as soon as it may be had, if the papers will answer
M. A.

In - ab - Jan 29
Mr. Wm. (20)
The Commission of Pensions
Washington City
D.C.
Hon. J. D. [unintelligible] H.R.

Washington City, January the 28. 7/1838.
Dear Sir,
You will greatly oblige me by furnishing me with the information asked of me in the enclosed letter. I am not able to give it myself, and am therefore under the necessity of troubling you. —
Respectfully —
Your Se.
J. S. Pennybacker

Mr. A. D. Hiller Veterans Administration Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Hiller,
May I ask for one more record, then I will not have to ask the assistance of your depart- ment again.
These citations I am sure apply to your department - only one
Reuben Cave - (Page) S. of W. 1835 Pen. 2,186(Luray)
Reuben Cave - (Shenandoah) H. D. Dec. 1821, 24
Reuben Cave - H. D. Dec. 1826, 39; B W
Probably all the same man.
Thank you
no signature? Donna Harper DeView 1130 Parker Detroit, Michigan