Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 1,745, Hugh Carter, Va.

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Carter, Hugh
R. 1,745
CONTENTS

30.964 Hugh Carter Tunep
Hugh Carter Decorater per premium
For foreign agency IBP Blair
1st May 18 Dec.

Department of War, Pension Office
Declaration of Hugh Galt, an applicant for a pension in the event of his being disabled by the act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832. State of Tennessee.
County of Greene I am the first day of May 1834 personally appeared before me Just. in doing justice to the poor Hugh Galt an applicant of the County of Greene and State of Tennessee aged eighty three years who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration as to his right to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832. That he entered the service in the spring of the year of 1777 as a volunteer under the following named officers and served as hereinafter stated in the Town of Winchester Frederick County State of Virginia where he then resided as near as he can recollect under Capt Peter Babb and Lieut Aaron Mues in a private soldier to go to Mount Beth in the State of Pennsylvania a distance of 200 miles and Mues to read Fort Hill and was received into service of the U.S. for a three months term and then continued a two term out and saw one engagement of being put on a foraging party to beat up and down the Monongahela River to procure provisions for the Army a distance of 60 miles from Speers, which was all the time there then there was more three months and one third and was discharged by the proper officers There was afterwards another term as a spy or scouting party for a term of three months in above company & enlisted under Capt. Galt in the year 1777 as near as he can recollect and understood Capt. Galt was to be the commander from Frederick County State of Virginia where he then resided to go to Strasburg in said State a distance of one hundred miles when it was reported the British army was to pass through but when he marched to the place above stated it was not the case and was therefore soon discharged the time in going and being out there near two thirds of a month and in the several terms I served he believes was over six months and it appears not to be in the power of the deponent to procure further evidence of all the facts except by his own oath as then that service with him is not living around him or may be dead for what he knows.
The interrogatories being put as is prescribed by the above said Department the A.W. was born in Chester County State of Pennsylvania in the year 1751, I have my age recorded in my Bible. & when I entered the service I lived in Frederick County State of Virginia

After the Revolutionary War I removed to the Territory of North Carolina now Wayne County where I have lived ever since except eight years in Blount County Tennessee but now a resident in Greene County. The names of the Regular officers in Fort Pitt has gone from my recollection and the militia officers might be Wightmeyer and Simon Gable Capt's Babb and Galtigan. Mission Creek the 6th day I believe I was discharged but cannot recall the officers name nor what has become of it but believe it to be last.
I hereby relinquish every claim what ever to a pension or annuity except the present and declare that his name is not one the Pension Roll of the Agency of my State and from my best knowledge will still be there out of which I swear to and subscribe the day and year aforesaid he for the same has the power for Greene County.
Isaac Justis Justice of the Peace Hugh Carter
Thomas Babb a witness aged 76 and a resident in Greene County and state aforesaid being called upon by said applicant above mentioned who being duly sworn at the time aforesaid before me the said Justice of the Peace deposes and says that he said deponent being present in the Town of Winchester in the County and State before mentioned according to the statement of the above applicant in the above Declaration and he thinks about the same year, and saw the above named Hugh Carter volunteer under Capt Babb as aforesaid with his Brother and that they went to the Service as the statement of the above applicant and that he has frequently heard his Brother Joseph Babb say they served their time at said Fort Pitt to wit the said applicant and his Brother Seth Babb a witness aged 78 and a resident in said County believes the above statement of Thomas Babb about in substance of what he knows of the services of said applicant and further that deponent states from belief information not well able to attend before said Justice the distance being 10 miles.
Sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year aforesaid Thomas Babb S. Babb Isaac Justis Justice of the Peace

We Thomas Babb and Seth Babb residing in the county of Greene before said... That we are well acquainted with Hugh Barton who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration and that believe him to be right... the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion.
before me Isaac Justice a Justice of the Peace... Thomas Babb Seth Babb... I am Justice of the Peace
State of Tennessee
Greene County ss at a court of pleas and quarters sessions... on the fourth Monday in April 1834... at the court go on to an examination of the above said... as above... the examination of the proceedings before said Justice... as he states and the court further certifies that it appears to... Thomas Babb who has signed the preceding... Seth Babb who has also signed the same... Resident in the same County...
I Merriman Payne Clerk of the Court of pleas and quarters... The matter of the application of Hugh Barton for a pension... and the seal of office this 1st day of May 1834. M. Payne C.C. Clerk

War Department Pension office September 7 th 1835
Hugh Barton an applicant for a Pension under the Act of June 7 th 1832 Whose Declaration is on file in said office wishes herein to explain The services set forth in his said Declaration Tho' your humble applicant is very frail in body and weak in mind and has not any possible opportunity of establishing the fact by any other person than his own oath as he knows of. It is put in his Declaration that part of his time of service he was boating on the Monongahela River he does know that the time herein specified is as near as he can recollect from the lapse of time and the frailty of body and mind that he enlisted as a private soldier in the Militia under Capt Babb as specified in his Declaration to go to Fort Pitt That the time preparing and marching until he arrived at Fort Pitt was one month and a third of a month then serving three months as a guard at the Fort before discharged and when his time was out he being - Absent on the River about as afore said under a serjeant or or proper officer as he declares was for provisions for the Army that he the said Hugh Barton was in the service of the United States and not in the employ of no individual nor for himself but when he returned being informed his three months was out he returned home making another lapse of time of one month making in the whole time of that lower five months and one third of a month the next year Volunteered under Capt Gilkeson as a spy and scouting party he believes for three months in the Militia as set forth in the Declaration as it was reported that the British Army was to march through the country and was to be at Stanton where we started on to Stanton but did not reach there until we heard the British Army was not to be there for such a time which we returned in about twenty days or two thirds of a month but continued in service and as a spy and guard to the country some weeks probably a month, then started under the command of the Capt afore said and Col. Hanes and marched to Stanton the time the report was that the British Army was to be there and served out the balance of the time he volun- teered for and against he returned home was about one and a third months making in the two last lower spoke of and the time spent as a spy and guard for that section of country three months as well as he recollects, there being a part of the time of service which was not put in the Declaration and which was not so distinctly

Recollected at the Drawing of said Declarations but has since Come to my recollection the date and year specified in the Declaration of the servitudes herein specified was the same year in the term of the several Taverns and services performed would make over six months now your Humble petitioner hopes that he may have the allowance for the weakness of Mind that portanith to old age and that the Explanation of the General Circumstances of servitude as well as the boating on the Mounion Ga hole River will be fully understood and received as a sufficient Explanation and if so your petitioner requests that this Statement as well as the subjoining Affidavit be made a Supplement to the above mentioned Declaration state of Tennessee
Greene County } This day personally appeared Hugh Carter the above named applicant before me Isaac Justus an acting Justice of the peace for said County and maketh oath that the above statements is True to the best of his knowledge Sworn to and subscribed before me the date above Isaac Justus Hugh Carter Justice of the peace
I know Isaac Justus to be an acting Justice of the peace in and for Greene County Tennessee & his attestation to be genuine Sept 30th 1835 John Blain

1745.
REJECTED
P. O. Hugh Carter
Service: Papers enclosed Feb'y 15 1836 to Hon W. B. Carter Sec
Enlisted: & no further action appears
Discharged: to have been had , 18 Papers rec'd from Congress May 1883
Application filed: _____, 18
Claims:  List of rejected claims printed in 1852 shows cause of rejection as follows: "Not military service"
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Hugh Carter. Lumpkin

Rejected did not serve six months in a military capacity See letter of May 1834 to Hon. J. Blair do 24 June 1834 Not found do 1 Oct 35 Sept. 28. 1913 let to W. B. Carter Feb 15. 1836. B. A. Carter 1745

Dr friend
Greenville January 23 d 1836
I am about to address you on a subject of a Declaration For a Pension by my Father Hugh Carter Senior it appears that in giving The circumstances of service which the Declaration specifies that there was Boating on arrival of provisions for the Army the length of time the Commissioner of Pensions I think mentioned for the Declaration don't say, That he was boating all the time of his service there but three months but if you will be so good as to examine the papers, if it cannot be drawn no other way, if you could get a special act of Congress passed for him to get his Pension. Mr. John Blair advised me so. you will find the Declaration & explanatory papers in the Pension office the last explanation is proven by Isaac Lusk a letter of the papers if Mr. Blair did not certify you will please do it, the Commissioner has given no written answer to it as I have received, but understand by Mr. Blair that he still says there is not length of time sufficient for seven months but it seems to me there is more, I need not say what is in the Declaration for you will see when you look; but I will say this that there was proof By Witnesses one or both of the Babb, of his going into the service The Court of Greene County certifies their credibility the Court also certifies The Interrogatory in the Declaration and thinks he was a soldier of The Revolutionary War. I have shown the papers to Lawyers That has wrote Declarations and get Pensions for others, they think Father's Declaration stronger & say it appears as he ought to have a Pension I don't know why stronger circumstances should be made or why he should be obliged to prove more than others under the act June 7, 1832 I will give you the first objection in part what the Commissioner Ed. Edwards says Hugh Carter Elleges to have entered the service for a three months tour & after serving out said tour continued in service with a furlough

party. Two and a third months more engaged in boating provisions for the Army. He afterwards entered the service for 3 Months and was discharged having served two thirds of a month, & stating there that Congress made no provisions for that kind of service then for it was rejected. Then I wrote him another explanation setting forth that the boating was not set forth as a separate service but that part of his time the officers put him to that Hottentot party at boating provisions &c. and was continued little over his time but did not say how long I don't recollect that his Declaration states any certain length of time that he was boating and I here think the Commissioner has mistook the matter and formed a false opinion on the subject.
I suppose that the whole amount of the objection is this that the Commissioner thinks my Father was boating provisions on the River to the Army for speculation and gain for himself which is not the case but was really in the service of the U. States Navy and hints probably will enable you to form some opinion of your own and what plan might be best to fall on to obtain a - Try make the paper answer that is now in the Pension office as there won't be no letter chance of getting no other paper in proof that I know of, please write me a letter to Weldon P.O.
Hon. William B. Carter member of Congress.
Yours most sent by Hugh Carter Jr.

Hugh Carter
Green Co of Tenn Pm Capt Babb in Gibson
to for Oct 1777 Mar. 1836
Rev. Pensions
June 3. 1836 - Com te dicit b l d
Report Res pende d
Dec r 30 1836
Ref d to the Com te on Rev d Pensions papers
Jan. 10. 1837. Com te dicit b l d 1745
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Mr. Carter
28
Rev. Pensions

24 Congress 1 Session
Congress of the United States In the House of Representatives
March 1. 1836
On motion of Mr. Carter,
Resolved, That the Committee on Revolutionary Pensions, be instructed to enquire into the expediency of extending the provisions of the act of Congress of the 7 th June, 1832, to Hugh Carter, Sen. of Greene County, Tennessee, for Revolutionary Services.
Attest
W. L. Franklin Clerk
(Paper)

Hon John Blair
May 1834
Record. Vol. 25. p. 442

War Dept Pensions Office
May 14, 1884
Sir,
The application of Hugh Gaster in support of his claim to a pension under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined. He alleges to have entered the service for a three months term, and after serving got sail term was continued in service with a furlough two and one third months more, engaged in boating provisions up and down the Monongahela river, for afterwards entered the service for a three months term and was discharged after serving two thirds of a month. The time engaged in boating transporting provisions up and down cannot be computed, and the other service does not amount to six months. The act of June 7, 1832 makes no provision for such service the service performed by the applicant in boating provisions as stated, and his other service do not amount to six months, the time required by law to entitle an applicant to a pension. His claim cannot therefore, be allowed. The papers will be placed on the files in this office. Hon. John Blair. N. R. Coyd

War Dept. P. Office Feb 15, 1836
Sir
I herewith return to you the letter of Col. Hugh Carter (in support of the claim of his father Hugh Carter) saying and having to state that he did not serve six months in a military capacity and is not therefore entitled to a pension under the act of 7 June 1832. He alleges that he served as a militiaman a term of for three months, after and after serving on said term he was put on a furlough party and was engaged three & two third months in boat's provisions for the army, and that he after wards entered upon another term and after serving one third of a month was discharged. The militiaman served in terms of part more than three months, and his service as a boatman was not under a military engagement, for which service  he is  entitled  to  a  pension  under  the  act  under  which  he  claims and is not therefore provided for by the act under which he claims. Enclosed are his papers

as requested by you. I will thank you to acknowledge the receipt of the same
No. W. B. Carter
Feb 18, 1835
Recd Feb 28, 1835
No. W. B. Carter
NR

Copy.
War Dept. Pensions Office.
Oct. 1, 1835
Sir:
The statement of Hugh Carter has been filed with his declaration.
The decision in his case cannot be reversed. Objection was not made originally to his statement of having served three months under one engagement because admitting said service, the whole time expiration of the boat service, did not amount to six months, which was necessary in order to obtain the benefits of the Act under which he claimed. There were no engagements in 1777 to serve three months in a military capacity as alleged in his declaration.
Hon. J. Blair, of Tennessee. Present.