Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 12576, Norris Coller, Conn. Continental

SERVICE
NUMBER
bonn continental
Collier, Norris or Harris
S. 12576
CONTENTS
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14980  New York  Norris Collier of Oswego in the State of N. York who was a Private in the Camp commanded by Captain Webb of the N.Y. commanded by Col. Webb on the line for 9 months
Continental Conn. Records completed Oct. 14/05.
Inscribed on the Roll of N. York at the rate of 30 Dollars Cents per annum to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 27 day of July 1832 and due to S. Cook & h Cooperstown
  Arrears to the 14th of Mar '33.  $ 60    Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sep '35  15     $ 75  
Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. G. E. Stiles Clerk.
Recorded by Book E. Vol. 3. Page 57

New York 18980
Norris Collins
of Oswego in the State of N. York who was a Private in the Comp commanded by Captain Webb of the Regt. commanded by Col. Webb in the Line line for 9 months
Continental Conn.
Records completed Oct. 14/05.
Inscribed on the Roll of N. York at the rate of 30 Dollars per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 27 day of July 1833 and Smith A. Cook to Cooperstown
Arrears to the 4th of Mar '33 $ 60 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sep '35 15 $75
5 Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by G. E. Giles Clerk Book E. Vol. 3. Page 5

Norris Collier " " a prusianum
coon A. COOK Jr City Coopers Town N.Y.
10013
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State of Tennessee Clay County ss.
Personally appeared before me The undersigned a Justice of the Peace in & for the said County of Morris Collor who being duly sworn deposes & saith that by reason of old age and consequent loss of memory he cannot state & swear more positively to the length of his service or the name of his officer under whom he served than he has done in his declaration which is herunto attached. But according to the best of his present recollection & belief he served not less than the periods mentioned above in as a soldier or private for the term of nine months I served as a soldier in the company of Capt. Wm. Gaylon Hubble, and was under Adjutant Webb - and for the term of two years under Capt. West. & ensign Little. during this time I belonged to the Continental State troops - and I believe that the Regiment was commanded by Col. Charles Webb - and if it was not I am not now able to state the name of the Col. But I am certain I served for the periods above stated. the last term was in the year 1777 & 78 and for such service I claim a pension and if the Department cannot see fit to give me a pension for my full term. they will then allow me for my first term of nine months - Sworn & subscribed this 30 th day of May 1833 before me - J. D. Doubleday, J. Justice {
his Mark Morris X Collor

State of New York Otsego County —
ss. I Horace Lathrop Clerk of the said County do certify that Seth Doubleday Junior Esq. before whom the within Affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the time of the same, one of the Justices of the Peace in and for the said County, And that I am acquainted with his hand writing & verily believe his name subscribed to the said Affidavit to be his proper hand writing & signature. Attest my hand & Seal of Office this 31 st day of May 1833,
Horace Lathrop, Clerk.

State of New York
Albany County ss: } On this 15 th day of October in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two personally appeared in open court before the Court of Common Pleas Now Sitting at the Court house in the Village of Coopersstown in the coun- ty of Albany of said Harris Collier a resident of the Town of Butternuts in the county and State of aforesaid aged 82. years on the 5 th day of February in the year 1832 who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to make obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7-1832: That he entered in the war of the Revolution as a soldier in the year 1776- and after that and served for the following periods in the following man- ner & under the following circumstan- ces-
That in the Spring of the year 1776. to the first in the month of May he enlisted for nine months at Trent in Connecticut where he resided into a company commanded by Capt. Wm. Gaylor Hubble. and went to Rose Brook about 30. Miles to there joined a Regiment of Connecticut State troops. consisting of three companies under Adjutant Walsh. and

most of of the Staying there a few weeks Marched to Fairfield, and Staid there about three months, was a part of the time at Stamford & Westport, and finally went to New Haven, and remained there till he was discharged which was in February 1777 - and that he faithfully served out his whole term of nine months
That in the forepart of the month of June 1777, he again enlisted at Trent in Connecticut as a soldier for three two years, in a company under Capt West. The messers name was Little, and went to Stamford & joined a Regiment of Connecticut State troops under Col. Charles Webb, and after remaining there some time went to Fairfield & staid there till in the fall was there ordered to New Haven & there went into winter quarters and staid there during the winter 1777-78 - in the Spring of 1778, were ordered to march to Long Neck, and was Staid there till fall, and when the troops went into winter quarters he was furnished on furlough to go home on account of ill health - in the latter part of winter & after he had regained his health he again returned & gained

his Company to Poughkeepsie and went with the Company to Fairfield where they were stationed till his time expired & he was discharged in the Poughkeepsie 1779 - That he served until his said term of enlistment & was regularly discharged which has been lost or destroyed - That he has not now in his possession any documentary evidence of his service nor does he know of any person living by whom he can prove the same - And he hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of any agency or any State
That he was born on the 5 th of February 1752 in Dutches Co. N.Y. - & resided there till he went to Tunk in Connecticut about the 1775 - and after the Revolution lived in Dutches Co. until he moved to Butternuts in Otsego Co. N.Y. - in the year 1813. when he has resided ever since. He has no record of his age - Can refer to the following persons who reside in Butternuts as to his character - to wit Judge Morris A. C. Moore Esq. Luther Sedgmore A. G. Washburn Gen. Jacob Morris -  Sworn & subscribed in his Morris his Dohr Mark

in open Court the day 14 th year of our Lord
Horace Lathrop Clerk.
We John Bard & William Stramahan We Andrew B. Moore & Nathan H. Dickinson residents of the Town of Butternuts in the County of Otsego & State of New York hereby certify that we are well acquainted with Norris Collier who has subscribed to & sworn to the above declaration (to have been acquainted with him for about 12 years) that we believe that he is slightly over 70 years of age. That he is respected and beloved in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a subject of the revolution. and that we concur in that opinion
John Bard
Sworn to & subscribed the
day 14 th year of our Lord William Stramahan
Horace Lathrop Clerk
And the Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrog- atories prescribed by the War Department that the above named Norris Collier was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states. And the Court further cer- tify that it appears to them that John Bard is a resident of the Town of Butternuts in

The county of Otsego is State of N.Y. and that William Stranahan is a resident of the same place. and are credible persons & entitled to credit -
J. O. M o ore
E. Frost
Judges
Seth Chase
I Horace Lathrop clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the county of Otsego do hereby certify that the above contains the original proceedings in the matter of the application of Norris Collier for a pension
In witness whereof I have here- unto set my hand & seal of office this 19 th day of October in the year 1832
Horace Lathrop Clerk.

No 16013
Harrisoller 89
c.f.
Admitted Pwote gmo $30
2 years service waived in supplemental declaration
A. book agent Cooperstown New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Harris Collier, of Allego County, New York
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlisted 1776 0 Private Capt Am. Lyman Lt Hubble X So. Horse Creek Danfield Saratoga Went in Connecticut Aged 82 Traditionary   Enlisted 1777 2 Capt West Ensign Little Colo. Charles Webb Wythe's Creek New Haven So. Horse Creek  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.
Col Charles Webb commanded 2 nd Conn Regt of Continental Army - Applicant's name not on rolls -
The Applicant is a full old man and cannot make a more accurate statement than he has. he has done all he can to if the Department cannot give him a full pension. they will allow him for his first term of 9 months. A. E. P. H. for

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons - one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [j] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[t] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

March 23, 1940.
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Mrs. W. C. Clark 4200 Haverhill Avenue, Detroit, Michigan.
BA-J/CC Am Norris or Norris Coller S.12576
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War record of Captain Samuel Gillett who served with the 6 th Regiment, Dutchess County militia, and of Narvis or Noris Coller who served with the Connecticut troops and later lived in Otsego County, New York.
There is no claim for pension or bounty land on file based upon service in the Revolutionary War of the Samuel Gillett described by you. The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in pension claim, S.12576, based upon service of Norris or Norris Coller in the Revolutionary War.
Norris Coller was born February 5, 1750, in Dutchess County, New York and resided there until about 1775, when he moved to Kent, Connecticut. The names of his parents are not shown.
While a resident of Kent, Connecticut, Norris Coller enlisted in May, 1776, served nine months as private in Captain William G. Hubbell's Connecticut company; enlisted about the first part of June 1777, served two years as private in Captain West's company, Colonel Charles Webb's Connecticut regiment.
After the Rev. War, this sol. lived in Dutchess Co., N.Y. - until 1813, then moved to Butternuts, Otsego Co., N.Y. The soldier was allowed pension on his application executed October 15, 1832, at which time he was residing in Butternuts, Otsego County, New York, where he moved in 1818 from Dutchess County, New York.
> 1813, this year ok on orig
rec'd trace

No family data are shown.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name and address of person paid and possibly the date of death of Norris Coller you should address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, this city and cite the following data:
Norris Coller (as his name was borne on the pension roll) Certificate #14980 Issued July 27, 1833 Rate $30.00 per annum Commenced March 4, 1831 Act of June 7, 1832 New York Agency.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

1940 - Mar. 23, West 25 Mrs. W. C. Clarke cc
Rev. War
12576
INVALID.
File No. 12,576
Harris Goller
Priv. Rev. War.
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 2 , Page 78
[Arrangement of 1870.]

4200 Haverhill Ave., Detroit, Mich., Mar. 1, 1940.
The Veteran's Administration, Washington, D. C.
Gentlemen:
Do your records show that a pension was ever given to a Capt. Samuel Gillett, who served in the Revolution in the Dutchess Co. Militia, 6th Regiment (Land Bounty Rights)? If so, I would appreciate whatever data you may have on him.
In the Pension Rolls, reported by the Secretary of War in 1835, appears the name of Narvis Coller, a private of the Conn. Continental line, living in Otsego Co., N. Y. as having been granted a pension July 27, 1833. I would like information concerning him also and the data necessary to learn when the last payment was made him.
I believe that this last man's name was actually Norris Coller or Collar, as I find a Noris Coller serving in Conn. in 1775 and evidently later in Dutchess Co., N. Y. as Norres Coller.
Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Yours very truly,
(Mrs. N. C.) Flora S. Clark.