Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 1,720, John Carr, New Jersey

SERVICE
NUMBER
New Jersey.
Carr, John or Kerr
R. 1,720
CONTENTS

State of New York } ss On this twenty fifth day County of Orange } of March one thousand eight hundred and nineteen before me the subscri- ber one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Orange aforesaid personally appeared John Thero aged sixty nine years resident in the Town of Minisink Coun- ty aforesaid who being by me first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to ob- tain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled an Act to provide for cer- tain persons engaged in the Land and Naval service of the United States in the Revolution- ary War - That the said John Thero enlisted in February (as he supposed) in the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy five, into what was called the year's Service , in Berger's County State of New Jersey in a company commanded by Captain Samuel Potter of the third Regiment of the Jersey Line - commanded by Colonel Elias Dayton - that he continued in said Service till the expiration of said term of one year - That he then enlisted again at Ticonderoga in the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy six to serve du- ring the War - in a company commanded by William Gifford of the third Regiment of the New Jersey Line - commanded by Colonel Elias Dayton - that he continued to serve in said Corps after the last aforesaid enlistment about three years when he was discharged from service by Colonel Elias Dayton near Morristown in the State of

New Jersey — that he was in a battle at Short Hills near Elizabethtown and some few skirmishes — That he is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the as- sistance of his country for support — I swear to and declare before me the day and year aforesaid — And the said John Thern on his oath states that on or about the twenty third day of April last he made an application similar to this his present one before James Finch junior then one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas for Orange County — and that he has been informed by the said Judge that his application was forwarded to the City of Washington but there never has been any return and it is supposed the papers are lost —
Sworn the 25 th day of March 1819 before me
John his  X Thern mark
Stephen Jackson
State of New York } ss County of Orange } Ebenezer Stephens and Jeremiah Hazen being duly sworn depose and say that they and each of them are personally acquainted with the above John Thern and with his circumstan- ces and well know him to be in an in- digent situation and to stand in need of the assistance of his country for support —
Subscribed and sworn to this 25 th day of March 1819 before me
Jeremiah Hazen Ebenezer Stephens
Stephen Jackson

John Carr John Carr of Carr.
N o 6-
Sched. $10.32
Jan. 11 th - 1830
Ref d to Com ee - Mil. Pensions
May 18. 1830 - Report ag st - to li
Rec d 17 Sept. 1821
H. Craig

State of New York, ss On this Fifth day of Septem- Orange bounty - ber 1821, in open court, to wit, the court of common Pleas this day held at the Academy in the Village of Newburgh in and for the county aforesaid, the said court being a court of Record for said bounty by virtue of the Statutes and Constitution of said State, Personally appeared John Verr, alias John Varr, aged seven- ty four years resident in the town of Minisink in said bounty who being first duly sworn accord- ing to Law doth on his oath declare that he ser- ved in the Revolutionary War as follows, to wit, in a company commanded first by captain Sam- uel Potter, and afterwards by captain William Gofford, in the Regiment commanded by Colonel Elias Dayton, being the Third Regiment of the New Jersey Line for the term of about four years, on the continental Establishment. And the said John in open court as aforesaid doth take the following oath, to wit, "I John Verr do solemnly swear that I was a resident citizen of the United States on the Eighteenth day of March 1818, and that I have not since that time by gift, sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part thereof with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring myself within the provisions of an act of Congress entitled "An Act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolu-

tionary War" passed on the 18 th day of March 1818 And that I have not, nor has any person in trust for me any property or securities, contracts or debts due to me, nor have I any income other than what is contained in the schedule hereto annex- ed and by me subscribed? And the said John in open court as aforesaid produces the following schedule that is to say. — I have one Bed & bedding worth $8.00, Two Pots $0.50, One Teakettle one Piepan $1.12 1/2, Six Plates & Three platters $0.41, Four or Five Teacups & Saucers $0.25, Six Knives & forks $1.00, One Pair Andirons & Fire Shovel $1.62 1/2, One old chest & one or Two old barrels $0.75, Six old chairs $1.00 One Keg and Half barrel bask $0.56, Wash Tub $0.37 1/2, Broad Hoe $0.50, Scythe & Packling $1.00 Eighteen Forks $0.12 1/2, Necessary wearing apparel. And the said John Thorne further states that his occupation is that of a Farmer, that by reason of age and infirmity he is able to do but little labour. That he has no family except his wife Betsey aged sixty two unable to work.
Sworn in open court the his fifteenth day of September 1821 John Thorne mark
D. W. Westcott Clerk
State of New York Orange County ss I David M. Westcott Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Orange do hereby certify that the foregoing Oath and Inventory are truly copied from the Record of the said Court. End

I do further certify that it is the opinion of the said Court that the total amount in value of the property exhibited in the aforesaid schedule is Eighteen Dollars & thirty two Cents. In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court the 11 th day of September 1821
D. M. Westcott

1720
REJECTED
P. O. John Carr
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: List of rejected claims printed in 1852, shows cause Re-enlisted of rejection as follows: "He was a deserter."
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

John Carr New York New York June 1832 Repealed See letter to Mr. Wilkins 10 Dec 1832
3 Years service in New Jersey line — — — Witnesses - King Carr and Matthews not credible — Col Sayton to service till 79 — Rolls despatched 1 Feb. 4

Morris County New Jersey
Be it known, that on this 24 th day of November in the year of our Lord 1819, before the subscriber a Judge of the Inferior Court of common pleas of said County, personally came John Kinney, to me well known, & being duly sworn, on his oath declares, that he served on the Continental establishment in the United States Army in the revolutionary war, as an Ensign in the 3 d . New Jersey Regiment, in the year of our Lord 1776, under Colonel Elias Dayton. — That he well recollects John Kerr, as a private, in Captain Samuel Potter's company, of said Reg t : that said Kerr, served faithfully for the term of one year, in said Company & Regiment, viz: — the year 1776, on the northern campaign. — And this deponent further states on oath, that he only believes said Kerr, afterwards enlisted to him during the war, as this deponent well recollects him as a private soldier for more than one year, after the expiration of the Northern campaign, in the same Regiment.
Sworn & subscribed before me at Morris Town, this 24 th day of Nov. 1819.
Lewis Condick
In Kinney I certify that Major John Kinney, the above deponent, is a gentleman of good standing, & in every respect entitled to belief & confidence.
Lewis Condick
State of New Jersey County of Morris } Robert Bell Carter Clerk of the County of Morris do hereby certify that Lewis Condick Esq r before whom the above affidavit is taken, is and was at the time of signing the same, duly enrolled one of the Judges of the Inferior Court of common pleas in and for the said County of Morris — and that full faith and credit are due and ought to be given to his official acts as such —
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and affixed the seal of said County this twenty sixth day of November A d eighteen hundred and nineteen
Robert H. Carter
State of New Jersey Morris County

of the Superior Court of Common Pleas in and for the said County of Morris - and that full faith and credit are due and ought to be given to his official acts as such
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and affixed the seal of said County this twenty sixth day of November A.D. eighteen hundred and nineteen
Robert H. Carter
State of New Jersey Morris County ss.
Before the subscriber, one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of said County, personally came John Barr, or Kerr, who being duly sworn, saith, that he is the same person, who under the former name & signature of "John Kerr", made application before Judge James Finch, of Orange County in New York in the month of April, & this deponent believes on the 20 th of April in the year of our Lord 1818, for a pension as a Revolutionary soldier, under the Act of Congress of the 18 th March 1818, & again before Stephen Jackson Esq. also a Judge of the Common Pleas of said County of Morris, on the 22 nd of March last, viz: 1819, as per this Deponent's declaration & oath hereto annexed, taken before said Jackson, with sundry other documents, will more fully appear. —
It is stated in the declaration & deposition of this deponent, John Kerr, taken before said Stephen Jackson, that this deponent "enlisted in February (as he supposes) in the year one thousand seven hundred & seventy five." — With respect to the actual term of enlistment, this deponent states, that his memory of the year has failed him, & he could recollect it only by the remembrance of the capture of the Hessians at Trenton, as he this deponent, was then in service with the Northern Army laying in barracks at Piacenza, & has then been in service as a soldier nearly one year after his first enlistment. — He recollects with a rejoicing of the Army upon the Battle of Lake Champlain, on the news of the capture of the Hessians by General Washington, & soon after, viz: on the 11 th of February of that same year, his first year's service expired, & in a short time afterwards probably early in March following, this deponent again enlisted in Captain Gifford's company, of Colonel Elias Dayton's Regiment during the war, & was discharged in the year 1780, as unfit for duty, on account of deafness, & hired a substitute to serve during the war. —
This deponent further states, that he always was an illiterate man

incapable of writing or spelling his family name, & does not know to this day, whether it was written at the time of his enlistment, Carr, or, Kerr, or, Kerr, or, Bar; but that it was commonly pronounced Karr, & that it may have been written on the pay rolls, & monthly returns, in various ways, & possibly in each of the ways before described. This deponent on oath further states, that he does not know of any other man called Bar or Kerr, in the same Regiment with himself, & feels pretty confident, there was no one of that name in the same company with himself; he had a brother belonging to Colonel Wind's Regiment, for one year. — This deponent further states, that the Clerk, who wrote the declaration before Judge Jackson in March last, referred to some records to ascertain the time when the Hessian were captured as before stated, but said he could find no proof, or certain evidence which would define the exact date of their capture, but concluded that it took place in the year 1775, & accordingly fixed that year for the date of this deponent's enlistment, of which this deponent was doubtful, & could not perfectly satisfy his own mind.
Sworn & subscribed before me, at Morris Town, N. Jersey this 7 th day of September, 1819.
Lewis Condict
John Karr his mark
State of New Jersey } Robert A. P. Carter Clerk of the County of Morris do hereby certify that Lewis Condict before whom the above affidavit is taken is and was at the time of signing the same duly enrolled one of the Judges of the Superior Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Morris. And that full faith and credit are due to his official acts as such —
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County this twenty sixth day of November A D eighteen hundred and nineteen
Robert A. P. Carter
Ames 1819

New Jersey District ss. Personally appeared before me William S. Pennington District Judge of the United States for the of New Jersey District Isaac Ward of full age who being by me first Duly sworn according to Law on his oath saith that John Hertz served with him one year in the Revolutionary War in Captain Potts Company in the third New Jersey Regiment Com- manded by Col Elias Dayton. Isaac Ward Sworn & subscribed before me on this 31 st day July A.D. 1879 William S Pennington District Judge
I William S Pennington District Judge of the Unit- ed States in and for the District of New Jersey do hereby certify that I have had some acquaintance since with the above named witness Isaac Ward in the course of the year last past during his own application for a Pension, That from this acquaintance, and his deportment and appearance I am of opinion that he is entitled to credit as a witness William S Pennington District Judge

I William Pennycuick Clerk of the District of St. George's in the County of Middlesex do hereby certify the foregoing signature to be the proper hand writing of William S. Pennycuick Esq. Judge of the District Court of the United States for the New Jersey District.
As witness my hand & the seal of the said District Court at Newark The 31 st day of July A.D. 1877.
Wm Pennycuick

N o 3
There were no enlistments in Feb y 75 — on continental establishment for the long a term of 9 months 2. 101
Rejected
10 July 1819
See the affidavits of Major John Kinney an officer of the Revolution, & of the Hon ble Jon a Dayton formerly Speaker of the H. R. U. S. also an officer of the Revolution, both testifying their services.
It appears by the rolls on a further investigation that the man did not serve faithfully having deserted Feb y 78 '80 after enlisting for the war

John Henry Apple petition for pension
Case of Mrs. Kern. 3923
Booth & Starks, Goshen, N. Hk.
Rec d May 20. 1879.
John Carr
Goshen, C. Y.
Jan y 13 th 77 war -
Deserted Feb y 1 st 1780

State of New York County of Orange
James Finch Esq. of said County being duly sworn says that John H. Keen of Sullivan -vilk in said County made oath before him for the purpose of obtaining a Pension under the late act of Congress, on or about the twenty third day of April one thousand Eight hundred & Eighteen - And this deponent further says that a short time after the said Keen had deposed before him as aforesaid, he this deponent transmitted said deposition with some others to J. C. Calhoun Esq. Secretary at War, and has never since heard from the same, but this deponent believes the same are lost. And further this deponent saith that at the time when the deposition of the said Keen was taken he this deponent was one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the Coun- ty of Orange aforesaid.
Subscribed & sworn to this 8 th day of April 1819 before me
James Finch Esq.
Genl. J. S. Seward one of the Judges for said Court

State of New York County of Orange, I do hereby certify that the above named Ebenezer Stephens and Jeremiah Hazen are credible witnesses — and further that it appears to my satisfaction that the said John Hearn did swear in the revolutionary War as stated in his affidavit hereto annexed — Dated March 25 th 1819
Stephen Jackson
In Testimony to the official character of Stephen Jackson as represented in the preceding Declaration of John Hearn; and that his name subscribed to said declara- -tion, and to the affidavit of Ebenezer Stephens and Jeremiah Hazen, and to the certificate, which affidavit and certificate follow, or are an- -nexed to said declaration — And also in testimony to the official character of Samuel Seward as represented in his subscription to the affidavit of James Finch junior hereto annexed and that his name and said subscription is the prop- -er hand writing of the said Samuel Seward — And also that the said James Finch junior was a Judge at the time and in the manner as stated in his said affidavit. I do hereunto subscribe my name and affix my seal of office this 5 th day of May in the year 1819
J. M. Westcott, Clerk of the County of Orange, State of New York

1720
John Carr
Feb. 7. 1832
Ref. to the Committee on Rev. Pensions —
Mar. 19 1832
Com n  durch o
Beuted
unfavour
Mr. Wilkin

22 d Congress 1 st Session
Congress of the United States
In the House of Representatives
February 8, 1832.
On motion of Mr. Wilkin
Resolved, That the Committee on Revolutionary Pensions, be instructed to enquire into the expediency of placing the name of John Carr, of the County of Orange, State of New York, a Soldier of the Revolution on the Pension roll, and that the documents on file be referred to the said Committee
Attest M. S. Clarke Clerk
To be returned when acted on.

Orange County N.Y.
I John Sutton & Edward L. Welling two of the Justices of the peace in the town of Warwick in said County do hereby certify that John Caro has for some time past and now is asserted as a pauper in and by the overseers of the poor of said town of Warwick - dated Warwick December 9 th 1829
John Sutton
Edward L. Welling

Borough of Elizabeth State of New Jersey ss.)
said
Before me Caleb Halsted Jun r . Mayor of the said Borough of town and one of the Judges of the Inferior Court of common pleas within the same, came Jonathan Dayton of the same place, who, being duly sworn did depose and say, that he recollects John Kerr, who was usually called Carr, to have served in the twelve months service in the year 1776 in Colo. Elias Dayton's Third New Jersey Regiment of Continental troops, & that, after the return of said Regiment from the Northern campaigns, in the winter of 1777, he reenlisted in Capt m Gifford's company in the same newly-raised Regiment, for three years, or during the war - And this Deponent further said, that, so long as he remained attached to said Jersey Regiment viz. from the said year 1776 until April 1779 when he was appointed A. D. Camp to the Commander in Chief of the Western Army, the said Kerr continued to serve in the regular service, but how much longer this Deponent could not remember, but was perfectly confident that said Kerr or Carr's services in the cont l service on Continental establishment exceeds two years & he verily believes that it exceeded the term of three years, and that as an old & faithful, & now a distressed and suffering soldier, he is well entitled to the bounty of his country under the provisions of the late pension law of the United States.
Sworn this 21 st of April 1820 Before me -
Jonathan Dayton
Caleb Halsted Jun r . Mayor of the Borough of Elizabeth

I do hereby certify that tho' I have been personally acquainted with the bearer John Carr for forty years now last past and have known him to be a sober Industrious man and a regular Peaceable Citizen and one who has always obtained his living by hard honest Labour
Orange County
State of N. York December 7 th 1829.
John Armstrong
These may certify that I have been personally acquainted with the bearer John Carr forty seven years last past and have allways known him to be sober and an Industrious man and poor he is now truly a needy man Warwick 11 th of December 1829
James Burr
I do certify that I have been acquainted with the bearer John Carr for forty three years or more and as far as I have heard he has sustained a fair character and industrious man
Jeffery Wiborn
I likewise have been acquainted with the within named John Carr between 30 & 40 years and believe him to be as merited above John M c Naught

John Barr
Feb. 7. 1832
ref. to the Committee on Rev. Pensions —
No 4
W. Wilkin

Pike County ss the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
Personally appeared before me Daniel Jayne Esquire one of the Justices of the peace in and for said County
I am Matthews of the said County of Pike and after being duly sworn on his oath saith that he knew John Herr to be regularly enlisted in the United States Service and served four years and that he this deponent hath seen the said John Herrs Discharge in writing after he returned from the United States Service and further saith not sworn and subscribed
before me this 19th day of March A.D. 1821
James his X Matthews mark
Daniel Jayne
Pike County ss.
I John Brink Recorder of Deeds in and for the County of Pike do Certify that Daniel Jayne Esquire was duly appointed and Commissioned a Justice of the peace for said County, on the 8th day of
December 1820. as appears from the Records in my keeping and still remains as such, and that full faith and credit, is and ought to be given to his acts. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of said office done at Milford the 20th March 1821.
J. Brink Recorder

John Carr of the Town of Mendham in the County of Orange in the State of New York personally appeared before me William S. Pennington one of the Judges of the District Court of the United States in and for the State of New Jersey, who being by me duly sworn according to Law deposeth and saith that about twelve months, previous to his discharge from the service of the United States as near as he can remember; he was exempt from duty in conse- quence of his being hard of hearing by the directions of Doctor Dunning & Doctor Loring; and considered as an invalid but remained with the army until the eleventh of May one thousand seven hundred and eighty, at which time he saith that he received a regular written discharge from Colonel Elias Dayton at Chatham, in the State of New Jersey, and that he remains hard of hearing in some measure yet, and that he this deponent never was absent from said army during said time, except having a pass or a furlough: That the sole reason of his leaving the army, was because he was returned an invalid and obtained his discharge on that account only sworn before me this
23 d day
sworn before me this 23 d day of Nov r 1822
William S. Pennington District Judge
his John Carr mark
State of New Jersey: Peter Carr of Newark in the State of New Jersey, person- ally appeared before me William S. Pennington District Judge & being duly sworn on his oath saith that he knew John Carr to be regularly enlisted in the United States service & served he thinks at least three years not less than four years; & that he this deponent hath seen the said John Carr's discharge in writing after the said John Carr returned from the United States service. —
sworn before me this
23 d day of Nov r 1822
William S. Pennington District Judge
his Peter Carr mark

Anthony King of Northfield in Essex County being duly sworn according to Law on his oath saith; that he served in the Revolutionary war with John Carr, in the same Company, for about three years; and that he was in the same Company with the said John Carr at the period of his discharge: that the said John Carr was incapable of doing military duty, completely for about one year previous to his leaving the army: in consequence of his being affected with a disorder in his head; which prevented his hearing. That this deponent does not remember having seen  heard John Carr's discharge himself: but that after John Carr left the army, he asked the Captain Joseph J. Anderson where Carr was, he answered that he was dischar- ged & gone, that he was not fit for duty; this was in consequence of his bad hearing that Carr obtained his discharge. —
Sworn before me this 23 d day of Nov r 1822 } Anthony King
William Pennington District Judge
No 2
I William Pennington Clerk of the District Court of the United States for New- Jersey District do certify that the foregoing is a signatures of W m S. Pennington are the proper hand writing of William S. Pennington Judge of the District Court of the United States for New Jersey District. —
Witness my hand & the Seal of the said District Court at Newark this twenty fifth day of November A D 1822. —
W m Pennington bR.

Orange County State of New York
vs John Here and Moses Vail of the Town of Min- isunk in said County - being duly sworn depose and say that the application mentioned in the preceding declaration of John Here and in the preceding affidavit of James Frinch Junior as having been made by said John Here on or about the twen- ty third day of April, in the year one thousand eight hundred and eighteen was actually and truly made on the tenth day of April last aforesaid, and that said deponents have been able to ascertain and fix upon said date, pre- cisely as recollecting business then done and by reference to papers then executed
Sworn and subscribed this ninth June 1819 before me Moses Vail his John + Here mark
Peter Holbert Commissioner
Orange County State of New York
vs Peter Holbert Commissioner authorized to take affidavits to be read in the Court of Common Pleas Sup- reme Court etc, Do Certify that the above named John Here and Moses Vail are credible witnesses
Date June 9 th - 1819
Peter Holbert

State of New York } ss } David M Westcott Clerk of the county of Orange } Court of Common Pleas in and for the county aforesaid, Do. certify that Peter Holbert is a commissioner duly and legally sworn and authorized to take any affidavit or other oath, to be read or used in any court of Record in this State as fully and with as au- thority as any Master in Chancery or Judge of any Court of Common Pleas, and that the name of the said Peter Holbert subscribed to the preceding affidavit of John Nee and Miss Vail, and to the above certificate is the proper hand-writing of the said Peter Holbert —
In Testimony whereof I do hereunto sub- -scribe my name and affix my seal of office this eleventh day of June in the year one thousand eight hundred and nineteen —
D. M. Westcott

War Dept. Pension Office
Dec. 10, 1832
Hon. Mr Wilkin,
Copy
Present.
Sir:
I have the honor to communicate that John Carr or Kerr alleges 3 years service in the N. Jersey line of the Continental army & produces the testimony of King, Carr and Matthews (whose credibility is not certified) and that of Col. Dayton. The testimony of the first 3 witnesses describe his services as amounting to 3 years & one of them deposes that he had seen his discharge. Col. Dayton proves service to 1779. In opposition to this is the record of his desertion on Feby. 1, 1780. The record evidence cannot be discredited by the recollections of witnesses however respectable & his claim is therefore rejected & his papers retained on file.