Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 47915, John Bishop, New York.

SERVICE
New York
Bishop, John
NUMBER
S. 47915
CONTENTS

(2539) bill
New York Roll
✓ John Bishop private
New York line '75. gmo
In the army of the United States during the Revolutionary War
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 8 Dollars per month, to commence the 25 th of April 1818
Certificate of Pension issued the 22 nd of Sept. 1818 and sent to James C. Wattles Esq. Manlius New York
Arrears to 4th of Sept. 1818  34.66 Semi-annual all'ce ending 4 th  Mar. 1819  48.00
Arrears 4 Mo 10/30 $82.66
{ Revolutionary claim, } { Act 18th March, 1818 }
See letter to Joseph Bell Albany N.Y. 22 Apr. 1823
W. Miller Esq. Manlius Onondaga
There is another John Bishop on ny city roll no 45281 & Con t . Service who has been confounded with this man

John Bishop, New-York line Revolutionary claim.
with spec. appearance
Not found on the New-York rolls. The testimony, on oath, of two or more disinterested and credible persons, proving the service stated by the applicant, is required, in lieu thereof. The judge is desired to certify, under the seal of the court, that he is satisfied the applicant is in indigent circumstances, and needs the aid of his country for support.
Sylvanus Tousley, Esq; Judge, Manlius, Onondago Co. by New-York.

State of New York
Onondaga County ss. On this twenty fifth day of April 1818 Before me Sylvanus Fowler one of the judges of the Court of Common Pleas for said County personally appear John Bishop aged sixty four years resident in the town of Manlius in said County who being by me first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the Revolutionary War". That he the said John Bishop enlisted in Newburgh in the State of New York in the month of July or August 1775 in the company commanded by Captain John Nicholson in Colonel James Clinton's (Third) battalion of York Troops and continued to serve in that Corps eleven months. That he then enlisted into Captain Moffatt's Brown's Company in Colonel Crammer's regiment and served three months. That he then enlisted into the company of Captain Livingston in Colonel Paulding's regiment of York Troops & served nine months. That he then served three months in the Northern Campaign in 1777. That in the latter part of the year 1780 he enlisted into the Company of Captain James Cannon in Colonel Mennon's Willett's regiment and served in that Corps till after the conclusion of the war when he was discharged at Schenectady in the State of New York about the last of the year 1783. That he was in the battle at Quebec under General Montgomery. at Harlem Plains. at White Plains. at Bemis' Heights in Stillwater. and at the Storm of Stony Point under General Wayne besides many smaller engagements and skirmishes. That he is in reduced circumstances and needs the assistance of his Country for support and that he has no other evidence now in his power of his said service.
Sworn to and declared before me the day and year aforesaid

I Sylvanus Tousley Judge as aforesaid do cer- tify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said John Bishop also since in the Rev- olutionary War as stated in the preceding de- claration and that he is actually in need of support from his country against the Common Enemy, and I now transmit the proceedings and testi- mony taken had before me to the Secretary for the department of War pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of Congress
Sylvanus Tousley
State of New York
Mondaga County
I do hereby certify that Sylvanus Tousley Esquire before whom the preceding Affidavit was taken was made, was at the time therein stated and now is a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas in & for said County And the above is his signature _____ In Testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of said County this 27 th day of April 1818 — Jasper Hopper Clk

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New York Sep. 19 th 1828
Sir,
I take the liberty of informing you that John Bishop of Albany County who was paid five or six hundred dollars in mistake of being restored to the Revolutionary list is now about applying under the act of May 15 th 1818. [1828] And as the efforts of the person employed by the Bank to recover the money has not succeeded, and as the payment is known to him to have been suspended from the Agents account with the War Department, I am informed that he contemplates to leave out the receipt of the money in his declaration, in hope that it may be overlooked at Washington, & no deduction therefore be made from the amount expected under the act above mentioned. I have therefore hastily sketched this line, to prevent the success of this effort to deceive & defraud.
I am very respectfully Sir, Your Obed t Serv t . (Signed) M rs Orvington
J. L. Edwards Esq r .

- Applicant aged 65 yrs. -
no family -  Restore
Sched: $60 - ( a horse - )
but it has since been sold by the officer to satisfy debts -
from 1777, during the war - served 7 yrs - has his discharge now in possession -
1777 - War
Hon. W. W. Van Wyck
H. R.
1777 - War
See letters to Hon. S. Van Rensselaer H. R. and to E. Williams, Jan. 16. 1828 - and to Moses Brownell April 25. 1828.
Sep 29
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687640
47.915 WIDOW , &c.
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John Bishop New York line Revolutionary
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Additional Testimony
State of New York County of Schenectady { I, Elias A. Gould & John Thornton late Officers in the revolutionary war. Col d Will iams Regiment of New York State troops, on the continental esta- blishment, being duly & several- ly sworn, deposite, & saith, that they were severally acquainted with John Bishop a sergeant be- longing to the said Regiment in the year one thousand seven hundred eighty two & eighty three & that he served to the close of the war. and that they are both disinterested witnesses & further saith not.
Elias A. Gould John Thornton

State of New York County of Schenectady
In testimony that the within is a true & correct copy before whom the within Affidavit of Jillies O'Honida, & John Hamilton was made, & whose signature ap- pears to the Jurats, is, & was, at the time a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Schenectady. I subscribe my name, & affix the seal of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Schenectady this 21 st day of August 1818.
Jillies O'Honida Clerk of the County of Schenectady

From Joseph Bell Albany, N.Y.
Ans. 20 Apr. 1826.
Wm Baker Recd Apr. 3 1826 Joseph Bell Washington
My Dear James
Yours affec

He came before me on the 4 th Inst and gave a letter of Attorney to Geo W. Stanton. Merchant of this City. who went to the Loan Office in the City of New York but could not succeed. They stated that no notification from the War Department had ever been given agreeably with the statement made in the aforesaid letter. which I attach'd to the Letter of Attorney. I wish you therefor to rectify the thing and send me such directions as are necessary. so that this poor old man may have something to assist him as he is not worth a penny in the world —
Hon Saml Barbour Sec of War —
I am respectfully Sir Your Ob st Serv t
Joseph Bell —

From John Bishop, Albany, N.Y.
ans. 18 Jan: 1826
pennon
FREE
The Secretary of War Washington.
Mr. Gore
Oct. 23. Jan. 16. 1826
New York
John Bishop

Albany N.Y. Jan'y 8 th 1826.
Sir,
In the year 1818, I obtained from the then Secretary of War Mr. Calhoun a Certificate that my name was inscribed on the Pension list Roll of New York, at every at the rate of Eight dollars per month to commence on the twenty fifth day of April 1818. I have drawn only a part of one year. - I beg you will inform me how I shall obtain what is due me - & the reasons if any why I have not received my dues -
Very respectfully I remain your obedt Servt. John Bishop
Please to send an answer to the Clerk of the City & County of Albany - }

Lansingburgh Jany 21 st 1852
Sir
The heirs of John Bishop wish to be informed what amount of Bank pay was due their Father at the time of his Death on the first of June 1829. He was a resident of Albany County N.Y. when his Pension was allowed under the Act of 1818. What course must they take to obtain what is due
To the Com te . of Pensions
Yours Respectfully
Andrew Follet Esq r

John Buskopf
Payable on the 1 st of March and 4 th of September of each year, at the Branch Bank of the United States at New York -
Recorded

WAR DEPARTMENT.
Revolutionary Claim
I CERTIFY, That in conformity with the Law of the UNITED STATES,
of the 18 th of March 1818
John Bishop late a private _____ in the
Army of the Revolution
is inscribed on the Pension List, Roll of the New York Agency, at the rate of Eight _____ dollars _____ cents per month, to commence on the twenty fifth day of April — one thousand eight hundred and eighteen
GIVEN at the WAR OFFICE of the UNITED STATES, this twenty second day of September one thousand eight hundred and eighteen
J. C. Calhoun Secretary of War

Office of Disct & Depot New York Dec 15 th 1826
Sir I received your Letter of the 9 th Ins t respecting the payment of 576 Dollars to John Bishop, of which I received information before from the 3 rd Auditor, & by yesterday's mail forwarded to him an explanation of the ground on which the payment was made, and, as information is also required at the War Depart t , I transmit herewith a copy of my Letter to the 3 rd Auditor.
You observe that, at the War Dep t reference was had to the John Bishop who was actually on the List in May 1822 & again refer me to that List, but, of the fact that this John Bishop was on the List no doubt exists or has existed for this was entered on the Office Books and the payments to him regularly made; But, the whole transaction, in question, was with the other John Bishop, whose name is not on that, or any other List transmitted to this Office, & the only question in this Office related to the real applicant, whether he was restored, & from what period his restoration should commence.
It is also mentioned in the Letters both from the War Dep t & the Auditor's Office, that the payment will not be allowed; on this subject permit me to observe, that, it does not appear equitable that an Agent should be charged with loss that arises from mistakes which originate at the War Department, as was the case in

in the present instance, for it was supposed at the War Department, that the person corresponding with that Dept, was the John Bishop who was on the list transmitted to this office & who had been regularly paid, whereas it was in reality the other John Bishop who was not on the list, and who had not been paid; of the existence of this mistake at the War Dept, this Office was not aware, consequently paid the real applicant.
You will perceive from the copy of my letter to the Auditor herewith, that, a gentleman gone to Albany, is to enquire into the situation of the money paid, & any effort I can make for the recovery of it will not be neglected.
I am very respectfully Sir, your Obedt Servt
Isaac Lawrence Lusk. Acting as Agent for Pensioners
J. L. Edwards Esqr

Office of Discount & Deposit New York 13 th Dec r 1826.
Sir
From yours of the 8 th Instant, it appears that John Bishop of Albany Co a Pensioner heretofore dropt from the Roll, and who has been paid under an impression that he was restored, was not the person intended in the Letters from the War Department, but that another Pensioner of that name was intended.
I have deemed it my duty to explain the circumstances under which the payment was made, & to ask your Counsel respecting the proper course to pursue (if possible) to recover the money.
The claim was made in April last with Touchers in due form by John Bishop of Albany County, who was heretofore a pensioner on the list of the Agency and had in his possession a Certificate thereof, claiming payment from the 4 th March 1820. The payment was then refused at this Office because he had been dropt from the Roll (and no proof appeared of his being restored, soon after this, a second application was made by him and a Letter produced from the War Department dated January 18 th 1826 addressed to the Clerk of Albany Co, in which the Pensioner was informed that he had been restored.
As the Pensioner made Oath that he resided in Albany Co for the last 7 Years, and claimed payment from 1820; and the other in Dutchman Co for 30 Years, and had received his pay in person regularly every 6 Months; and as this had in his possession a Letter from the War Department recently forwarded to him in Albany Co stating that he was restored, every circumstance concurred to shew that the applicant, was the person intended, & who was to be restored, as the Other had been.
But

But the payment was suspended, and a Letter written by me to the War Department, not with any view of identifying the applicant as the person intended in the Letter from the War Department, of this no doubt existed; but to Obtain an Official Order for placing him on the list, with a particular statement of the period of commencement, as no proof of his being restored could be found on file in this Office, see copy of my Letter herewith, dated April 18 th 1826. Soon after, my Letter was forwarded, I received one from the War Department, which appeared to have arisen from a Correspondence of the applicant with the War Department, see copy herewith, dated April 20 th 1826. This Letter evidently refers to the same person to whom I had refused payment, I who made a representation of the refusal to the War Department, therefore although as stated in my Letter herewith there was no instruction relative to the restoration of this Prisoner on file in this Office, yet, as it is stated in the Official Letter to me that his restoration is on file in the records at Washington, the conclusion was natural that it had been Omitted in the List forwarded to this Office, and as the last clause of the Letter directed me to place his name on my List of those who had been restored, & to pay him the amount due from the 4 th of March 1826, on his producing correct Vouchers, no doubt remained of the propriety of paying this applicant, and the correctness of the Vouchers, on which the payment was made has not been questioned.
It may be proper for me to notice further with respect to the application of the Letter to the alien John Bishop, that, it was known at the War Department from the Semi Annual List sent in January last in which the name & sum due

each pensioner on the List of this Office is stated, that, he had been regularly paid, having only 48 Dollars inserted opposite his name as remaining due, this circumstance also was operative against any conception of an Order to pay 576. Dollars to him , neither was he the person who applied for it, but the John Bishop who both at the War Department (and at this Office) did apply, and to whom the payment was made, had (if restored) exactly that amount due to him, & had in his possession an Order from the War Department to claim it at this Office, (And there was not the shadow of suspicion but that the applicant was the proper person to whom the payment was to be made, on the contrary had it been made to the other John Bishop it would have been a gross Error.
The circumstance is deeply regretted by me, although conscious that as agent for the Government my duty has been performed in this instance the same as if it had been my own property and private concern: And, I am extremely anxious to endeavor (if possible) to recover the money, and will be thankful for your instructions. Mean while I shall obtain information through a person who departs this day to Albany how the money has been applied &c.
I am very respectfully Sir Your Obed Servant, Jas Isaac Laurens acting as Agt
Peter Wagner B. of B d Auditor