Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 608, Reuben Bates, R. I.

SERVICE
NUMBER
R. J.
Bates, Reuben Abigail
R. 608
CONTENTS

Reuben Bates Milton Englewood Richland NY Jan. 30. 49 For Washington Reuben Bates Teanster - of Rhode Island died 15 May 1835
Moved Dec 25 - 43 His name is on book 8 as a Teanster, page 88 - Vol 2. page 251. from July 4. 80 & Dec 31. 81 Fanning -
I have no confidence in this case at this date, as I find no service Jan. 1850
Teanster - noted all Teanster Service went to the Hall at the time of Cornwall's Surrender
I find this name on my old, but to my new rolls Wrote him of Service on private rolls & to get the pension Oct 29. 1853 Wrote P.M. Richland for P.C. of Bates family Jan. 20. 54 Wrote J.B. Watson Esq. included part April 17. 54 Wrote wid Bat Washington Wis for record April 22. 54 where will you be in July Wrote J.B. Watson to hand to grandson July 13. 54
Abigail Bates Gov Washington Washington Wisconsin Wrote her Feb 13. 54 Wrote Gen. Bull to do

Richland Jan 16 30 1849 No 2
Dear Sir In answer to yours of the 12 I can say
 1 his Name was Rubin Bates his Father's name was Rubin but died in the Revolution before he enlisted so that I think he was never listed again.  2 his place of residence was Rhode Island Town of Hopkinton Nine miles from Providence.  3 he was Married at Lunsingburg December 24 1793  4 Died May 15 1835  5 Widows Elizabeth Bates 6 before marriage. Elizabeth Bull  7 was Married at Lunsingburg by Esq Montgomery  8 she has no record of her marriage in family record it was burned up  9 The old man did not serve except as teamster  10 we cannot name the Capt or Col under whom whom he served but have often heard him say that he was at the taking of Cornwallis and have heard him tell the particulars of the Enemy Stacking their Arms and marching out to Surrender and soon after that he was attacked with the Scurvy and fever and got his discharge and went home  11 Birth of first child Dec 26 1794 misses year 1797 2 child Oct 10 not certain what day but think it was out of 3 child March 15th 1800 yours most Respectfully  Johnson Snugers  1 Grand son

State of Wisconsin Ozaukee County of Washington  is On this 28 th day of October 1854 Judge of the Circuit
personally appeared before the Court of Probate in and for the County and State aforesaid Abigail Bates of said county & State aged 80 years, who first being duly sworn according to law, doth, on her oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed on the 3d February 1853, granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary war; that she is the widow of Reuben Bates who was during the Revolution a resident of the State of Rhode Island, and that he was a teamster in the war of the Revolution, that of his teaming service one tour she will recollect of hearing him say, was at the South, and that he was at the South at the time of the surrender of Cornwallis, & was then at Yorktown, that he served from one & a half to two years as teamster, various team service
She further declares that she was married to the said Reuben Bates on the 24th of December 1793 at Lansingburgh New York, by Esq Montgomery, that her name before marriage was Abigail Bull, that she has no family record that her said husband died on the 15th day of May 1835 and that she has remained his widow, & is still his widow
I sworn and subscribed before me the said Abigail being blind & unable to write, the day & date above mentioned,
Abigail her Bates mark
Ad H. Lunaher,
Judge of the Third Judicial Circuit
I certify the above named Abigail Bates is a respectable person, & that I have no hand in the agency of this case - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal this 28 th day of October, 1854
Ad H. Lunaher, Seal, Judge of the Third Judicial Circuit of said State

State of Wisconsin } Ozaukee County of Washington } ss Abram Bates & Lacinda Bates person- ally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law, depose and say that Reuben Bates late a revolution- ary soldier, & late husband of Abigail Bates, died at the house of these deponents, and died on the 15th day of May 1835 leav- ing his widow Abigail Bates whose declaration is on the first page of this sheet, that she is the identical person and widow of the above named Reuben Bates & that she has remained his widow since his death & is still his widow Sworn & subscribed before me }                      Abram Bates This 28 th day of October 1854 }                      Laura Bates Chas H. Lamphere Circuit Judge,
I certify that the above named Abram Bates & Lacinda Bates are respectable persons - I further certify that their post office address is Port Washington Wisconsin; further I say, that I have no part in the agency of this case Chas H. Lamphere, Circuit Judge,

I. Lafayette Towsey Clerk of the Circuit Court of the County of Ozaukee in the Third judicial district of the State of Wisconsin do hereby certify that the Hon Charles H. Larabee is Judge of the Circuit Court of said District In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the Seal of the said Court at P.R. Washington this 28 th day of October A.D. 1854
Lafayette Towsey Clerk

State of New York,
County of Tompkins ss Aaron Bull personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law, depon and say, that I am seventy one years of age, that for more than sixty years I have been personally acquainted with Reuben Bates deceased, the late husband of Abigail Bates of Wisconsin, who is, as I am informed, making application for a pension; the said Reuben Bates had the reputation, & general character of having been in the service in the war of the Revolution, this deponent has heard the said Reuben Bates state often, & many times that he was a teamster in the Revolution, & that one tour of teaming was with an ox team to the South that he will recollects of hearing him speak of preference of an ox team to a horse team in going so long a journey & in travelling in the South, in that sandy country, that the said Reuben Bates was long in the teaming service in the war of the Revolution, & that he drove an ox team to the South at the time of the battle of Cornwall, there can be no doubt - The said Abigail Bates now of Wisconsin is the identical person & widow of the said Reuben Bates, that this deponent was a witness to her marriage in Lansingburgh N.Y. to the said Reuben Bates, married at her & this deponent's father's house Subscribed & sworn before me, this 20 day of Oct 1854
Aaron Bull
I certify that the above named Aaron Bull is a respectable person, resides at Slaterville Tompkins Co N.Y. I have no part or agency in this case. Peter Quick Justice of the peace,

I further state that I have been acquainted with Aaron Bull about thirty years and that full credit may be given to his word.
State of New-York } ss. Tompkins County Clerk's Office,
I, EZRA WEAVER, Clerk of said county, and also Clerk of the Courts in and for said county, do hereby certify that Peter Luvick Esquire, before whom the preceding declaration was subscribed and sworn, and whose name appears to the Jurat thereto, was at the date of the same an acting Justice of the Peace in and for said county, duly elected, sworn, and authorized to act as such, and to take the same: And further, that I am well acquainted with the hand-writing of such Justice, and verily believe that the signature to the preceding Jurat is genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said county and Courts, at Ithaca, this Twenty third day of October 1854
E. Weaver Clerk.

I further state that I have been acquainted with Aaron Bull about thirty years and that full credit may be given to his affidavit Oct the 20 th 1854 — Peter Quick Justice of the peace.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the seal of the said county and Courts, at Ithaca, this Twenty third day of October 1854 E. Weaver Clerk.

1855 85 1770
State of New York
County of Rensselaer ss Elizabeth Bates Hawkins personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law deposes and says, that she is eighty five years of age, that she is a sister of Reuben Bates (deceased) late a teamster in the war of the Revolution, she deposes and says that her said brother Reuben Bates was in the service of the Revolution as a teamster that he drove an ox team, went to the South, & lost his team and returned home without a team & sick, that her said brother Reuben Bates died in Oswego County leaving his widow Abigail Bates, whose maiden name was Abigail Bull, she well recollects of her said brother Reuben Bates marrying Abigail Bull, usually called at that time Nabby, that her said brother Reuben Bates performed the said teaming service during the latter part of the war of the revolution that he did perform teaming service & drove an ox team during the Revolution is certainly true, his then residence was about 9 miles from Providence  Thirteenth day of January 1855
Elizabeth Bates Hawkins
William M. Martin Justice of the Peace Edward Taylor, Witness.
STATE OF NEW YORK, RENSSELAER COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, } ss.
I, AMBROSE H. SHELDON, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that the foregoing affidavit was made, and whose name is thereto subscribed, was, at the day of the date thereof, a Justice of the Peace, in and for said County, duly commissioned and sworn, and that his signature thereto subscribed is genuine.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said County, this 4th day of January A. D., 1855
A. H. Sheldon Clerk.

1855 85 1770
State of New York
County of Rensselaer ss
Elizabeth Bates Hawkins personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law deposes and says, that she is eighty five years of age, that she is a sister of Reuben Bates (deceased) late a teamster in the war of the Revolution, she deposes and says that her said brother Reuben Bates was in the service of the Revolution as a teamster that he drove an ox team, went to the south, & lost his team and returned home without a team & sick, that her said brother Reuben Bates died in Oswego County leaving his widow Abigail Bates, whose maiden name was Abigail Bull, she well recollects of her said brother Reuben Bates marrying Abigail Bull, usually called at that time Nabby, that her said brother Reuben Bates performed the said teaming service during the latter part of the war of the revolution that he did perform teaming service & drove an ox team during the Revolution is certainly true, his then residence was about 9 miles from Providence  thirt th day of January 1855
Elizabeth Bates Hawkins
Willard M. Wilson Justice of the Peace Edward Taylor, Witness.
I certify that the above named Elizabeth Bates Hawkins is a respectable person & a worthy witness, that I have no part or hand in the agency of this case
Willard M. Wilson Justice of the Peace E. Taylor. Clergyman.

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section MER/eel
May 14, 1929
Ida Teed E 6000 E. 17th Street Denver, Colorado
Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R.608 , it appears that Reuben Bates married, December 24 or 25, 1793, at Lansingburg, New York, Abigail Bull, born August 13, 1774. They were married at the home of her father, whose name is not stated.
The soldier died, May 15, 1835, in Oswego County, New York, at the home of Abram and Laura Bates, no relationship stated. In 1854, said Abram and Laura Bates were living in Ozaukee County, Wisconsin.
The soldier's father, Reuben Bates, died in the Revolution, no details of his service given.
Abigail Bates, widow of Reuben Bates, the younger, while residing in Ozaukee Co, Wisconsin, applied for pension October 28, 1854, on account of his services in the Revolutionary War, and stated that while a resident of Alliburg(?), about nine miles from Providence, Rhode Island, he enlisted and served as a teamster about one and one-half or two years in the Rhode Island

Troops and was at the surrender of Cornwallis. It is stated that he enlisted under the direction of Freeman Lincoln, Conductor of Teams.
Her claim was not allowed as she failed to furnish satisfactory proof that her husband rendered the alleged service.
They had a large family of children. Their eldest, a daughter, was born, December 26, 1794; their second, a son, was born in October, 1797; their third, a son, was born, March 15, 1800; no names are given.
The widow, Abigail, had brothers, Aaron Bull, living in Slaterville, Tompkins County, New York, in 1854; and Abraham Bull, who married, in October, 1789, Abigail, born, June 24, 1770, her maiden name not given.
Abraham and Abigail Bull's daughter married Johnson Ingersoll, who was living in Pulaski, Oswego County, New York, in 1849. This daughter's name is not shown.
Elizabeth Bates Hawkins, a sister of the soldier, Reuben Bates, the younger, was living in Rensselaer County, New York, in 1855, and was then aged eighty-five years.
The above noted Reuben Bates is the only soldier by that name, of Rhode Island, that is found on the Revolu-

tionary War records of this bureau.
In order to identify any other particular soldier of the Revolution surnamed Bates, his full name is essential and as much as possible of the following data pertaining to him: approximate dates of birth and death, places of residence at enlistment and after service and given name of widow.
Respectfully,
K. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner.

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Ex'r.
INVALID.
RECEIVED
Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1870.
Abigail Bates
P. O. _____
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____

1 Waldo Abigail Bates Conn. of Genl. Washington D.C.
Mch - Jan 38
W. C. H. Horn

Abigail Bates Wid of Reuben Wisconsin called Law of 1838 from Abad Joy

No 15289.
Abigail Bates widow of Reuben.
Wisconsin.
and by 1 st Dec. 1852 same Jany 12 1855 and by 22 nd Jany. 1855.
608
Atch 7 July 1838.

Abigail Bates
Original Original
Hon. S. P. Wells
FP
Can't Pardon
Washington
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Abigail Bates, Declaration law '38 Wisconsin The rule of the office as far back as 1832. Says "To require from the applicant positive proof of service from a cotemporary survivor, would after the lapse of so many years, be to deprive many of them of the benefit of the law" But now in 1855 unless the above rule be extended all claimants as to proof of identity must fail The case of Abigail Bates is this - her husband having served only as teamster & having died in 1835 he made no declaration that we can find The first enquiry from her see letter N o 1. dated Jan. 6 th 1849 which alleges that her husband Reuben Bates served only as a teamster - Letter N o 2 dated Jan. 30. alleges teaming service only & N o 3 dated Feby. 25 th 1849 alleges the same, these letters say he was under Washington at the South in 1781 at Yorktown &c., the letters say he resided about 9 miles from Providence, they refer to his talk with others of his service many years since Prof. Timothy Walby, Justus Fox, Aaron Bull, all these 3 witnesses heard him say he drove an ox team South & was at the surrender of Cornwallis, this was believed by them all to be the fact - Elizabeth Bates Hawkins, a brother of Reuben Bates testifies to all of the above allegations, she was his sister, she knew he drove an ox team to the South & back & came home sick, this is positive proof -
over

Aaron Dufur testifies, he had heard him tell about his service - His death is proven
The history of the case, the first allegation and the proof of 5 respectable witnesses sustains the case, over & above the widows own declaration
I now ask respectfully, the Hon Commission to examine this claim in person, & then if he will apply the rule of 1832 he will allow it from Trad Loy
Official Date
Peru
Dec 24 1855
Jan 24 1855
A. Dufur

Pritchard Wyz Feb 14 1849 Dear Sir I learn from yours of the 19 th that you want some further evidence of the marriage before Dec 24 1893 1894 as to any church or town record I do not know as there is any as she was married by a justice of the Peace you ask by what circumstance does so know she was married Dec 24 1893 she knows by her age she was 74 years old August 13 1818 she was born 1818 was 19 years old 13 August 1837 was married Christopher Crain after which was Dec 25 1893 inserted of Dec 24 when I wrote you before she said Christopher Crain which was Dec 25 and I understand her Christopher Crain which I call 24 my Mother Mother who is now living with me was present at the marriage she was the wife of the widows Brother she recollects the marriage very distinctly and knew it to have been Dec 25 1893 by her own marriage and by the birth of her oldest child which was one year old in Sept and the widow was married Dec after their visit are very distinct with respect to the marriage and also of the birth of their children she has a Brother now living that was present at the marriage he was ten years old.

Johnson Ingersoll Feb 25. 49
I think I could obtain his affidavit if it was necessary. His family lives in Tompkins County but I expect he is at Sheboygan in Wisconsin. At present but probably mother he will be back in June. You ask for my wife's name & age her name is Elizabeth Bull. She was born June 24 1770 was married Oct 1789 to Abraham Bull a brother of Mrs Bates had been married four years and from Feb to Dec when Mrs Bates was married you ask for Mr Bates old certificate and how much he drew his pension. I know a pension he applied for and when the pension law first came out but was that law could not draw so he never tried in Mrs Dutton lived at the same time and did not obtain a pension but I obtained a larger sometimes of hundreds and obtained one and if Mr Bates had someone to assist him there is no doubt but he would have drawn and I think there is sufficient proof of the marriage of the widow and that she was married Dec 25 1793
Yours with respect
Johnson Ingersoll
Dear Sir, I recd M y Dec 25
Bethlehem Dec 25 1849

Pulaski January the 6 1841
Mr. Nathl. Goy Esq
Dear Sir I saw a notice a few days since purporting you to be in the agency of claims for revolutionary claims I have taken the liberty to write you on the subject I have an Aunt an old Lady who is the widow of one of the Lowndes in the service under Washington he has been dead long since and what has become of his discharge I can not tell but his wife says she has had him say he had one and I have had him say so I have had him converses with my Father a great many times as my Father was one of the revolutionary Soldiers and drew a pension I think there can be no doubt but that he served as Lowndes but what proof it will require to obtain the Pension I am not able to say but the proof that my Aunt was married to him and is his widow there can be no doubt as for my wife's Mother was present at the marriage and she is living with me at this time my Aunt was born 1774 was married 1793 their oldest child was a girl would of now living here about fifty one their second a son about

forty nine then third a son forty seven fourth daughter forty five and three sons and one daughter still young in I do not know as there has ever been an effort made to obtain her Pension on the ground of her being a transvestite same has said it could others has thought not if you think it can be got I wish you to write me immediately stating what course must be pursued and on what conditions you will undertake to obtain it I have agreed with her to make an effort to get it and if you do not conclude to try it I want to try some one else you will Please address Pulaski Oswego County N.Y.
Johnson Ingersoll.
As if it should be the necessary for me to come to your place and see you on your same here you can so write
Johnson Ingersoll Pulaski Oswego Co. N.Y. Jan'y. 6. 49
wrote you with C.L. for history 12 questions Jan'y. 12. 49 He was not a pensioner Died 15 May 1835 Married 24 Dec 1793 wrote you all I want no offer Feb 7. 49 Do no more, poor man Search Boston & K. S.
Reuben Bates, Sec Vol 2, page 251. Scanton it seems to be 18 months, and give a y 16 mo the roll is 15 mo from July 4. '30 to Dec 31. '31 He Ingersoll speaker of his own rather not drinking a Word for history of Dec 1, with home & his City Oct 1. 1833 wrote with Com had 4 for a separate history of each of the 4 cases Oct 14. 1833 He writes he won't give but I wrote him Feb 8. 49 Do no more Nov 8. 1833

State of New York,
County of Oswego ss Timothy Maltby aged 60 years personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law, deposes and says that he was personally acquainted with Reuben Bates in 1810 and after that time till his death, that at his first acquaintance he learned from the said Reuben Bates that he had been a Revolutionary Soldier, that he had served as a teamster and drove an Ox team, went South and was present at the taking of Cornwallis at Yorktown, that the said Reuben Bates in 1810 was a man of a family, his wife's name was Abigail that they then had a large family of children, that they were called and believed by all to be husband & wife, of this fact, this deponent has no doubt, that the said Reuben Bates died in 1835 leaving his widow Abigail Bates his widow & who I understand has applied for a pension, that the said widow Abigail Bates is still a widow and now resides in the State of Wisconsin, this deponent resides in Richland Oswego County New York
Sworn and subscribed before me
This 16 day of December 1854
John B. Watson
(Justice of the Peace)
Timothy Maltby
I certify that the above named Timothy Maltby is a respectable person & a worthy & reliable witness, I further certify that I have no hand or part in the agency of this case
John B. Watson
(Justice of the Peace)

Same made STATE OF NEW YORK, Oswego County Clerk's Office. } ss.
I E. M. Gill
Clerk of Oswego County, Certify,
That John R. Watson Esq., before whom the annexed affidavit, was  were taken, was at the time of the taking such affidavit a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly authorized to take the same, and further, that I am well acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe that his signature thereto are genuine.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of said County, this the 25 day of November 1854 E. M. Gill Clerk
than two of the same

State of New York
County of Oswego } ss Justus Fox aged 70 years personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law, deposes & says, that in 1808 he was personally acquainted with Reuben Bates, that he had often at that time heard him mention of his having served as a soldier in the war of the Revolution, & of his driving an ox team to the South, & of his having been pres- ent at the battle of the taking of Cornwallis at Yorktown. That at this deponent's first acquaintance, the said Reuben Bates was a man of a family, his wife Abigail was living with him & they living together as husband and wife, having at that time in 1808 a large family of children, that the said Reuben Bates died in 1835 leaving his widow Abigail Bates who still remains his widow and is now a resident of the State of Wisconsin & has recently as I am informed made an application for a pension, this deponent is a resident of Richland in Oswego County New York Justus Fox Sworn & Subscribed before me)
This 18 day of November 1854
John B. Watson
Justice of the Peace
I certify that the above named Justus Fox is a respectable person, & a reliable witness, I further certify that I have no part, or hand in the agency of this case.
John B. Watson
Justice of the Peace

State of New York,
County of Oswego ss Aaron Dey personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn according to law deposes and says, that prior to the great Eclipse in 1806 he became personally acquainted with Reuben Bates, who then had the general reputation of having been a soldier in the war of the Revolution, that he was at that time a man of a family, having a large family of children, his wife Abigail was then living with him, & they were called & believed by all to be husband and wife, this deponent well recollects & have heard the said Reuben Bates speak many times of his having served in the war of the Revolution as a teamster, that he drove an ox team to the South & was present at the surrender of Cornwallis at Yorktown being then in the service as a teamster; the said Reuben Bates died in 1835 leaving his widow Abigail Bates who still remains his widow & has (as this deponent believes) recently made application for a pension from the State of Wisconsin where she now resides.
Sworn & Subscribed before me }
Aaron Dey
this 16 th day of November 1854
John B. Watson
Justice of the Peace
I certify that the above named Aaron Dey is a respectable person, a worthy witness & a resident of the town of Richland in Oswego County New York I certify that I have no hand in the agency of this case
John B. Watson Justice of the Peace

State of New York
County of Oswego
ss
Doctor John M Watson personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn  affirmed according to law, deposes & says, that he attended Reuben Bates (deceased) (the late husband of Abigail Bates now of Wisconsin), in his last sickness, & on referring to his books, he finds an original entry of his last visit to see the said Reuben Bates as having been made on the 8th day of May 1835 as so entered at that time, this deponent further recollects & says, the said Reuben Bates died soon after the last visit made him by this deponent, & he should say the 15th of May as according to his best belief, 15th May 1835.
Affirmed & Subscribed before me
This 29 day of December 1854
J. M. Watson
Justice of the Peace
John M. Watson
I certify the above named Doctor John M Watson is a respectable person & worthy witness - I further certify that I have a mark or hand in the agency of this case
STATE OF NEW YORK, } ss. Oswego County Clerk's Office.
I ..... C. M. Merrill Clerk of Oswego County, Certify,
That ..... John B. Watson Esq., before whom the annexed affidavit was taken, was at the time of the taking such affidavit a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly authorized to take the same, and further, that I am well acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe that his signature thereto is genuine.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of said County, this the ..... 30 th day of ..... December 1854
..... C. M. Merrill Clerk

State of New York
County of Oswego
ss Doctor John M Watson personally appeared before me, and after being duly sworn  affirmed according to law, deposes & says, that he attended Reuben Bates (deceased) (the late husband of Abigail Bates now of Wisconsin), in his last sickness, & on referring to his books, he finds an original entry of his last visit to see the said Reuben Bates as having been made on the 8th day of May 1835 as so entered at that time, this deponent further recollects & says, the said Reuben Bates died soon after the last visit made him by this deponent, & he should say the 15th of May as according to his best belief, 15th May 1835.
Affirmed & subscribed before me
This 29 day of December 1854
J. M. Watson Justice of the Peace
John M. Watson
I certify the above named Doctor John M Watson is a respectable person & worthy witness - I further certify that I have no part or hand in the agency of this case
John B. Watson Justice of the Peace
signature thereto is genuine.
In Witness whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the Seal of said County, this the 20 th day of December 1854
C. M. Merrill Clerk

Ovid N. Y. Dec 2 o . 1854
Sir
I inclose declaration of Abigail Bates, by an oversight of mine the declaration is under the law of 1853, when I intended it to have been under the law of 1848 as all the proof of marriage go to them, will you allow it under the law of 1848 if not please return the declaration - Her claim in fact, if we could find a record of her marriage justly would come under the law of 1838
As to the claim for training service, I refer you to letter No. 1. dated Jan'y. 6. 1849 letter No. 2 dated Jan'y. 30. 1849 & No. 3 dated Feb'y 25. 1849 These three letters laid the first foundation, (to me) of this claim I refer you to them all as to what they say of training & as to her marriage; training service alone claimed, the Marriage Christmas eve 24 Dec, some call 25 - 1793
All these Allegations for training service were made more than 4 years before I had a roll of any sort in my hands, or even expected one, therefore the claim of training was made without any knowledge of my rolls or any information from me - I inclose lots of proof
Can the widow be paid, what was due her husband at his death, without making her declaration under the law of 1832
Most respectfully Your Ob st Serv t Abad Jay
Hon d P. Waldo Com r

Dec 2/34

48 Pension Office. 8 th Decr. 1854.
Sir,
The Application of Abigail Bates widow of Reuben of Wisconsin has been received and filed under Act of the July 1838.
Reuben has not been identified as the teamster whose services are set forth in the certified copy of your private record. The dates of the marriage of Reuben and Abigail, and of Reuben's death, have not been proved.
Abad Jay Ely Quincy. N.Y.

Brad Fry
Jan. 12/88.

Quilt
160
Pension Office Jany 12 1853
Sir
The objections to the admission of the case of Abigail Bates widow of Reuben of Wisconsin, stated in my letter of the 5th of Decr. last, have not been met, Her husband's service as a teamster must be established by witnesses who know of it and who can describe it, and the date of her marriage must be proved by witnesses who can show how they are enabled to fix the time,
And I beg Sir Present

Arad Goy Jan. 28/85.

Pension Office. 22 d Jany. 1855.
Sir,
Upon a re-examination of the case of Abigail Bates, widow of Reuben of Wisconsin, I can discover nothing to change my decision, reported to you on 5 th Dec r 1854 and 12 th Jany. 1855.
Abra Jay Esqr. Present.

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1227 Orville Ave., Kansas City, Kansas. March 20/29,
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington D. C.
Dear Sir, -
Does the service of Reuben Bates appear on the Revolutionary records?
Kindly give me what you have relative to Reuben Bates - Brigade of Teams under direction of Freeman Seuncoln director of teams for State of Rhode Island. Reuben Bates was both owner & driver of his team.
I think he entered service in 1780 - at age of 16 or 18 yrs. - I shall be grateful for all the information you have of him or of a Bates (His father I believe) who enlisted at the same time.
Very truly Yours, Ida Reed.

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Washington Jan. 9. 1855
Sir
I inclose further proof in the case of Abigail Bates, an applicant from Wisconsin, you say Law of 1838, I refer you to the papers on file, & my letter explaining & opening the case, dated Dec 2. '54, the proof now inclosed establishes his death & the identity of his service, if you take the first history of the case for the letter on file, & the proof of some 3 or 4 good witnesses, those letters & proof, added to the inclosed, makes it a clear case. Please address your answer to me in this city
Yours respectfully Your Ab l Serv t Adad Joy
Hon L P Waldo Com d of Pen s !
N.B. Pension certificate to be made payable in Albany N.Y.

Reuben Bates Service

! Extracts from an original, authentic Manuscript Roll Vol 2 Page 251 held by A. Day
"Return of a Brigade of Teams with their appraisements &c listed under the direction "of Freeman Lincoln Conductor of Teams for the State of Rhode Island to serve in the "Army of the United States to the 30 th Decem r 1780
   Date of Entry Owner's Name Driver's Name Carts & Waggons Oxen & Horses Cows Goats & Sheep Chains Total Amount in specie Dollars   Number Appraisement Price Number 100 1 st Price Appraisement No of 1 st Price Appraisement No of 1 st Price Appraisement Number Appraisement Number Appraisement Number Appraisement     1780   July 4 "Reuben Bates. Reuben Bates Wagon 9 75 4 19 104 20 82 " " " 2 43 1 52 2096  
Pension Office March 24 1854 I have compared the above with the original and find it to be a true copy of the Manuscript
S. Cole Chief Clerk

Pension Office, Washington, D.C.
Not this
12 27 Orville Ave. Kansas City, Kansas. April 8/79.
Commis. of Pensions;
Dear Sir,
A short time ago I wrote to "War Office" in Washington concerning a Revolutionary soldier, and the office gave me a few particulars, but referred me to the Pension Office for more. The soldier referred to was Reuben Bates - R. I., who, according to a family legend, went into the war with an "Ex-Team" - Evidently he was engaged in hauling supplies - enlisting his oxen as well as himself. Acc. to another authority he served under Freeman, driver of teams - Our family legend says he & his father went in together, I don't know the father's name, but if two by the name of Bates enlisted together as teamsters & owners of teams, the other must have been the father.
Will you kindly send me the record of Reuben Bates as above - as complete as you have it - & of another Bates who went into the service at same time if you find any such. - ? Did Reuben Bates draw a pension? If so, how much & for what length of time? If not, why did he not? I am particularly desirous of learning

from what town he enlisted, At that time he was 18 yrs. old, - I mean at the time he enlisted.
I shall be very grateful for all the information you can give me. What is the fee in case I should wish a certificate of the services?
Very sincerely,
Id. D. D. D.
BATES, REUBEN, R.I.

NOV 1 6 1863
BATES, REUBEN, R.I.

M.O.# 337 676 - $2 95
Nov. 12 - 1929.
Dept. of Interior Bureau of Pensions - Com. - Earl D. Church.
Dear Sir,
I am in receipt of your letter of Oct. 28 - concerning photostatic copy of Rev War Pension Claim of Abigail Bates, widow of Reuben Bates, saying that number of pages to be copied is eighteen. Claim is R. 608. Rate 15 cts. page - 25 cts. for certification.
Find enclosed money order drawn to order of Sec. of Interior - for amount in question - $2.95 - (Two dollars ninety-five cts.)
Kindly send photostatic copy to me at address below.
Ida Reed
3027 Down Ave. Southgate, Calif.

Stamp Enclosed
May 5, 1929.
U.S. Pension Office, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sir, -
A month ago I sent a letter to Pension Office requesting certain information. As I had written previously to the "War Dept." and received a reply with information within two weeks, I am afraid my letter has not reached your office. The War Office could not give all information I requested & referred me to the Pension Office for the rest.
I will state my case again. If there is expense connected with sending me the information, please let me know what is necessary to be done to get the latter. only of R.D.
Reuben Bates of Rhode Id. enlisted in the Revolution with his team in Lincoln's Team Brigade in 1780 I believe. I understand from family legend that his father also enlisted at the same time in the same Brigade. The boy Reuben was just 18 yrs. old.
I am anxious to know all your records give concerning Reuben Bates of the Team Brigade. (There were two other Reuben's of R.D.) every item of information you have. - Also of any Bates who enlisted

in the Brigade at the same time, for that one would be his father.
Did Reuben Bates receive a pension? If not, how did he fail to get one? years ago old a relative told me that he "just failed of getting a pension". He was in about a year, and I don't know what that means.
I shall be very grateful for a reply.
Very truly,
Ida Reed.
————— > 6000 - E. 17 th St. Denver, Colo.
P.S. my other letter was written from 1227 Orville Ave., Kansas City, Ka. I am just making a change. Ida Reed.
BATES, REUBEN, R.I

REVOLUTIONARY & 1812 WARS SECTION SEP 23 1929 Sept. 17-1929. Pension Office, Wash. D.C. Rev. War Pension Section.
Dear Sir, -
I am informed that I can get a photostat copy of a Pension claim, for about 15¢ a page. I am anxious to get that or a type-written copy which you will cost the least. I would like a copy of all the papers relating to the claim - I have a few facts from them now, but I wish an exact copy of everything.
The claim is that of Abigail Bull Bates, Claim - R. 608.
You can hold the copy until you have informed me of the cost. Shall I send a check on Brown Bros. & Co., 57 Wall St., N.Y., or a money order?
I shall be grateful for

an early reply, Sincerely Miss Ida Reed 3027 Iowa Ave., South Gate, Calif.,
BATES, REUBEN, R. I.

Rev.&1812 Wars Section. MNHF
October 28, 1929.
Ida Teed, 3027 Iowa Avenue, South Gate, California.
Dear Madam:
I advise you that photostatic copies of original papers in Revolutionary War pension claim of Abigail Bates, widow of Reuben Bates (R.608) will be furnished you at the rate of fifteen cents a page with twenty-five cents extra for certification if that is desired.
The number of pages to be copied is eighteen.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this bureau by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.
Very truly yours,
EARL D. CHURCH, Commissioner.
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BATES REUBEN R.608

Rev. ASIS Wars Section. MWH
October 28, 1828.
Isaac Tred, 3027 Iowa Avenue, South Gate, California.
Dear Madam:
I advise you that photostatic copies of original papers in Revolutionary War pension files of Abigail Bates, order to Isaac Tred, Dec 2, 1827 the rate of fifteen cents a page with twenty-five cents extra for certification if that is desired. The number of pages to be copied is eighteen. The proper amount should be forwarded to this bureau by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior.  Rev 70 Arad's Dec 5-1857 Dec 12-1855-5 Jan 2-1855-5 Jan 9-1855-5  Arad's let. Jan. 9, 1855-
WILLIAM D. CHURCH, Commissioner.
BATES, REUBEN, R.I.