Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 1,053, John Bouck, New York

SERVICE
New York
or Bouch, John Bauch, or Johannes v. Maria
NUMBER
R. 1,053
CONTENTS

State of New York } p. 1
Schoharie County } On this fifth day of February 1841, personally appeared before the subscriber a judge of Schoharie county courts Maria Bonck, a resident of the town of Schoharie in said county and state, in the ninety third year of her age, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed July 4th. 1836: That she is the widow of Johannes Bonck, commonly called John Bonck, who was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary War, in Captain Hagers Company, in Colonel Vromans Regiment: That the annexed is his Commission - that when he was appointed, there was another man by the name of John Bonck, living in the same town, older than her husband, which was the reason of the letter "W" being added by way of distinction. That soon after the commencement of the war, the said John Bonck, Senior, left the country and went to Canada as was supposed, that after that her said husband omitted the middle letter "W" in writing his name - That when he wrote his name in english he wrote it John Bonck. That he entered the service as soon as he received his commission, and was in the service from that time, at various times in each year till in the year 1781 - But to state with precision the number of times he was in the service in each year and the length of each tour she cannot. She thinks he was in the service sometimes over a month at a time.
She further declares that she was married to the said Johannes Bonck on the 15th day of July seventeen hundred and seventy two: That her husband the aforesaid Johannes Bonck died on the thirty first day of December 1830 at Schoharie aforesaid, where he then resided - And that she has remained a widow ever since that period, which will more fully appear by the proof hereto annexed -
her Maria X Bonck mark

Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written before me; and I certify that the applicant cannot, from old age and bodily infirmity, attend the court
Harvey Watson a Judge of Schoharie County Courts

State of New York Schoharie County } ss. John Gebhard Junior, being duly sworn, saith that John Bonck, otherwise called Johannes Bonck, named in the annexed declaration, Died on the thirty first day of December in the year 1830. And that the said Maria Bonck, also named in said declaration, has remained and still is his widow -
Subscribed and sworn this Eleventh day of March 1841, before me
David Miles Justice of the peace
I certify the above named John Gebhard Junior is a person of veracity.
John Gebhard Junr. David Miles Justice of the peace
State of New York Schoharie County } ss. I, George A. Lintner, Pastor of St. Pauls Lutheran church of the town and county of Schoharie and state aforesaid, Do certify that on an Examination of the Register of Marriages of said church, I find therein Recorded, the marriage of Johannes Bonck and Maria Brensler in these words "Anno seventeen hundred and seventy two, den fifteen Jul. Johannes Bonck und Maria Brensler," and further that the above extract is a true copy of the Record with the exception of the date which is expressed on the Record in fair legible figures as follows "Anno 1772 den 15 Jul." I George A. Lintner above named, depose and say, that I am pastor of the church above named and mentioned and that the above is a true extract from the Records of said church with the exception above named as certified by me -
Subscribed and sworn this 11th day of March 1841 before me
David Miles Justice of the peace
G. A. Lintner

November 29, 1933
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Ethel M. Barushaw 18500 Wildemere Avenue Detroit Michigan
John Bouck, R. 1053 BA-J/MCS aw
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your request for the Revolutionary War record of John Bouck.
The data which follow were obtained from papers on file in the pension claim, R. 1053, based upon the military service of John Bouck or Johannes W , Bauch.
He was appointed on October 20, 1775, as second lieutenant in Captain Jacob Hager's "Second Company of Militia of Foot in the County of Albany, which company was in Colonel Peter Vrooman's New York regiment, and served at various times each year until sometime in 1781.
He married July 15, 1772, in Schoharie, Schoharie County, New York, Maria Kreusler.
He died December 31, 1830, at Schoharie, New York.
His widow, Maria, applied for pension February 5, 1841, at which time she was "in the ninety-third year of her age" and was living in Schoharie, New York. Her claim was not allowed as she failed to prove that the soldier rendered an aggregate service of at least six months, which was the requirement of the pension law.
The papers in this claim contain no further data relative to the soldier's family.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Assistant to Administrator

In PROVINCIAL CONGRESS for the Colony of New-York, the Twentieth Day of October 1775.
To Johannes W Bauck — Gentlemen Greeting :
B Y Virtue of the Authority reposed in us ————— We do hereby nominate, authorize, constitute and appoint you the said Johannes W Bauck Second Lieutenant Tacit Pagon of the Second Company of Militia of Foot in the County of Albany where James is Captain ————— hereby requiring you, before you enter into the Exercise of your said Office, to make in Writing, and subscribe in Presence of the Chairman of the Committee of the City, Town, District, or Precinct wherein you reside, the Declaration appointed and directed by the Eleventh Section of the Seventh Resolve contained in the Rules and Orders for regulating the Militia of the Colony of New-York, recommended by this Congress on the 22d Day of August 1775, and authorizing you fully to execute all the Powers belonging to your said Office, by Virtue of the said Rules and Orders, and the said Declaration : And we do hereby require all Persons under your Command, to pay due Obedience to you, according to the said Rules and Orders, and such further Rules and Orders as shall be made and recom- mended for the Militia of this Colony, by the present, or any future Continental Congress, or Provincial Congress of this Colony.
Attest,
Robt. Benson Secy
By Order,
Nath l Brodhall Presid t

1926. Sept. 24. list. to Mr. A. A. Forshner 1933 Nov. 29. list. to Ethel Mr. Earnshaw. W.C.A.
Ex'r. INVALID.
REJECTED
Acts of July 14, 1892, and March 3, 1873.
10000
P.O. Maria Bouch Widow of Service: Johannes alias  John Banch
Enlisted: _____, 18 Discharged: _____, 18 Printed list of 185-2 gives full reason for suspension "He did not serve 6 mos." Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P.O. _____

V no 5337.
Maria Bouch
N.Y. wid John or Johannes
ad. 4 July '36
m 72: d 30
1653
A.H. Mechlin Dist.
present
ap. 14. 1841.

State of New York 2
Schoharie County Ss. Personally came before me Benjamin Best, Esquire one of the Justices of the peace in and for said county John L. Sawyer of the town of Fulton in said county and state, where he now resides, and has resided ever since and during the Revolutionary war, who being duly sworn deponeth and saith that he this deponent was at the time of the Revolutionary war, well acquainted with Johannes Bonck, commonly called John Bonck who was a Lieutenant in the Revolutionary war, in Captain Hagers Company, in Colonel Vromans Regiment - that when he was appointed Lieutenant there was another man by the name of John Bonck living in the said county older than the said Lieutenant John Bonck and the said Lieutenant was distinguished by the name of Johannes W. Bonck. That soon after the commencement of the war, the said John Bonck, Senior, left the country and went to Canada as was supposed - that after that the said Lieutenant Bonck omitted the middle letter "W" in writing his name - That when he wrote his name in english he wrote it John Bonck: And that he this Deponent was also at that time an Ensign in the company under the command of the said Captain Hager in Colonel Vromans Regiment - This Deponent further saith that the different tours of duty hereinafter set forth were performed during the years one thousand seven hundred and seventy six, seventy seven, and seventy eight; but the precise month and year and the length of each tour he cannot recollect; neither can he recollect all the tours of duty which he performed in company with the said Lieutenant Bonck, but is confident that in the whole they amounted to more than six months: and he distinctly recollects the following tours during the years 1776, 1777 and 1778 aforesaid - That at a certain time the said Lieutenant Bonck and this Deponent with Captain Hagers Company of militia met at or near

1 the place now called the Rocks at Christian Shapers in the town of Schoharie, and that they with the said company under the command of the said Captain Hager started from there on a tour to Albany; from thence to Copsackie and from thence to Lumenburgh, now called Athens, from which place they returned home - 2 And he further says that on two other tours this deponent and the said Lieutenant Bonck, with the company and under the command of the said Captain Hager went over to the Mohawk River, now Montgomery county, and that he and the said Lieutenant Bonck were present at the time when Sir John Johnson was taken a prisoner at the Mohawk river on the ice in the winter; and 1 were also present at another time when Harry Hare was made a prisoner at the Mohawk River - And he further says that the said company was ordered out on another occasion to take Burgoyne, and that Lieut. Bonck and this Deponent, together with the said company started on their march, and when they arrived at Albany they received the news that Burgoyne was taken prisoner; and before they left Albany they saw Burgoyne brought there as a prisoner - And he further says that at another 1 time the said Lieutenant Bonck and this Deponent together with the said company, which at the time was under the command of the said Lieutenant Bonck (Captain Hager not being present) started on a tour and went to a place then called Skeenborough, now called Whitehall and from circumstances now in his recollection, he is positive they were on duty during this tour about one month. And this is the only tour in which this Deponent can state with certainty the length of time he and the said Lieutenant Bonck were on duty - and further saith not.
Subscribed and sworn this first day of February March in the year Eighteen hundred and forty one before me -
To the word February in the Second line from the bottom & read as since the word March was written
John L. Hager

Above was done before the execution
Benjamin Best Justice of the Peace
I certify that the above named John L. Sawyer is a person of veracity
Benjamin Best Justice of the Peace of the Town of Fulton
State of New York
County of Schoharie ss. I William Thomas M c Arthur, Clerk of the said county, Do certify that Harvey Watson before whom the annexed declaration of Maria Bensek purports to have been sworn, was at the date of the same one of the Judges of the court of common pleas in and for the said county, and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and signature. I further certify that David Miles before whom two of the annexed affidavits (viz. of the Rev. George A. Lintner and John Lobband Jr.) purport to have been sworn, was at the dates of the same one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said county, and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavits to be his proper hand writing and signature. And I further certify that Benjamin Best before whom the preceding affidavit of John L. Sawyer purports to have been sworn, was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said county, and that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said affidavit to be his proper hand writing and signature.
In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said county this eleventh day of March A. D. 1841 - Note - The word William erased and "Thomas" inserted in the first line of the certificate -
Thomas M c Arthur, Clerk of the County of Schoharie

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th day of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
   1 1780 May 18 13347 John Bauck X Spn 0 8 4   2 1780 Dec 21 13704 Johannis Bauck X " 0 9 2   3 1780 Nov 23 13945 John Bauck X " 0 16 8   4 1781 Feby 15 13987 John Bauck X " 0 5 10   5 1778 Dec 1 14253 Johannis Bauck Great 7 10 11 1/3 21 days   6 1779 Octo 10 14994 John Bauck X Spn 0 17 9 1/3   7 1779 Octo 6 15388 Johannis Bauck X " 0 12 5 1/3   8 1779 Nov 30 15426 John Bauck X " 0 10 8   9 1779 Sept 14 15629 Johannis Bauck X " 0 12 5 1/3   10 1780 Nov 23 15675 John Bauck X " 1 15 6 2/3   11 1781 Feby 15 15718 John Bauck X " 0 12 5 1/3   12 1779 Dec 1 15741 Johannis Bauck X " 1 17 4   13 1780 Dec 21 15280 Johannis Bauck X " 0 19 6 2/3   14 1780 May 18 16169 John Bauck X " 0 17 9 1/3  
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, February 11 1841. }
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 3911 now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
   First—under Capt. Wendt Worst in Col. Peter Vroman Regiment.   Second, " Capt Jacob Weager " " Peter Vroman, "   Third, " Lieut Ephm Vroman " " Peter Vroman, "   Fourth, " Enjn Peter Swart " " Peter Vroman's "   Fifth, " Capt Christian Stutrach " " Peter Vroman's "   Sixth, " " Christian Brown " " Peter Vroman's "   Seventh, " Lieut Ephm Vroman " " Peter Vroman's "   Eighth, " Capt Storm Becker " " Peter Vroman's "   Ninth, " Enjn Peter Swart " " Peter Vroman's "   Tenth, " Lieut Ephm Vroman " " Peter Vroman's "   Eleventh, " Enjn Peter Swart " " Peter Vroman's "   Twelfth, " Capt Jacob Weager " " Peter Vroman's "   Thirteenth, " Jacob Weager " " Peter Vroman's "   Fourteenth, " Lieut Wendt Worst " " Peter Vroman's "  
Albany County Militia
M c Intyre Lieut Comptroller

A. Willechlin April 17, 1841
AG

Sen. H. C. the 17 th Ap 1/2 41
Sir
In the case of Mrs Maria Bontk it will be necessary to obtain a specific statement of each term for which a claim is asserted and sustain it by the parol testimony which the surviving comrades of her late husband may afford. Since The pension if granted will be computed by the half-pay rec d while he was in service and therefore the length & grade of the service must be ascertained with satisfactory precision.
The certificate of the Compt. of NYork should be obtained showing how far each term of the alleged service is confirmed or discredited by his records.
A. H. Mecklin Esq present

Rev. Dr. May 13 th 1/41
Sir
The certificate of the Comptroller in the case of Mrs. Maria Bouck shows 14 terms of service credited to the name of her late husband. But one of them only can relate to him whose commission as a Lieut. in Vrooman's Regt. of Militia bears date on 20 Oct. 1775. This term about (20 days) was rendered in Nov. '78 from which time the records of militia service are deemed full & complete. With respect to the service prior to '79 to which the deposition of John L. Sawyer refers, it is not sufficient to make  to make with the term above, ten months. He expressly says that the terms of service were from a few days to 1 month's duration & that he was out with Lt. Bouck five times in '76. 7. 8. the last tour being 1 month. The witness refers to no service after '78 & the records credit him as a Lieut. with none. If the terms prior to '79 were no longer than they were subsequently to that date as shown by the Comptroller's certificate, it would require numerous tours to make

an aggregate of six months which is the minimum service for which the laws provide,
A. H. Mecklin May 13, 1891 A. H.
Mr. A. H. Mecklin 4 th and r d office

A. H. Mechtlin Esq.
Washington D.C.
[Large decorative flourish or signature]

Comptroller's Office
Albany April 29. 1841
M c A. H. Meeklin Washington City
Sir
Your letter of the 14 th April was duly received requesting further evidence in relation to the Revolutionary Services of Mr. Bouch. In answer to which I have to say that copies of all the evidence on this subject afforded by the records in this office have recently been furnished to a person in Schenectady who in answer to a recent inquiry states that they have been forwarded to you at Washington. It is supposed that a portion of the papers relating to the revolutionary period which were sent from this office to the Pension Office at Washington still remain there, a part only having been been returned here when called for some few years since. If any do remain there it is quite probable some evidence bearing on Mr. Bouch's case may be found among them.
Very Respectfully Your old Servant
W m D. Dewey
Dep. Comptroller

Maria Bonck
N. York
Sup d . act 1836.
copy the aff d of Lawyer for M c Mechlin

Crescent Beach, Conn.,
July 29, 1926.
Commissioner of Pension Bureau, Washington, D. C.
after Sept. 1 - address me 23 Allerton St., Norchester, Mass.
Dear sir:- Can you give me any information as to whether any pension was given to Johannes Boock [Bancha Boock] or to his wife or children. He lived in Schoharie County, N. Y. 1747-1830. His wife was Catherine Geroyer. They were married in 1769. He served as lieutenant in the militia company raised in the Schoharie Valley - I am especially interested to know the names of the children of this man. Thanking you for any information which you may be able to give me, I am.
Yours respectfully, A. A. Forschee.
P.S. I think he was in Albany Co. militia 15 th Regiment - Col. Peter Kromann.

Nov. 20, 1933.
Bureau of Pensions U.S. Dept. of Interior, Washington, D.C.
Dear Sirs -
To aid me in making applica- tion for membership in the Daugh- ters of the American Revolution, I am asking you to please mail me a copy of letter written by your acting Commissioner to Mr. A. A. Forshee 23 Allston St., Dorchester Mass., dated Sept. 24, 1926 in regard to pension claim R-1053, made by the widow (Marie Krensen) of John Bouck . I am a direct descendant of John Bouck, being

a first cousin of Mr. Forshee. I have a copy of the letter that I ask for, sent to me by Mr. Forshee, but I have to have one from your depart- ment direct before the D.A.R. will accept it with my application.
I trust you will be able to help me out in this matter and I will greatly appreciate hearing from you as soon as possible. Thanking you, I remain.
Yours truly
Ethel M. Earnshaw
18500 Wildmere Av.,
Detroit, Mich.

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section
was
September 24, 1926
Mr. A. A. Forshee 23 Allston St. Dorchester, Mass.
Sir:
I have to advise you that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, R. 1053, that JOHANNES W. Bauch BAUCH or JOHN BOUCK was appointed October 20, 1775, as Second Lieutenant in Captain Jacob Hager's Second Company of Militia of Foot in Albany County, New York, which company was in Colonel Peter Vrooman's New York Regiment; and he (John Bouck) served at various times during the Revolution.
He married July 15, 1772, in Schoharie, Schoharie County, New York, Maria Kreusler.
He died December 31, 1830, at Schoharie, New York.
His widow, Maria, applied for pension February 5, 1841, at which time in the 93rd year of her age she was ninety-three years of age and was living in Schoharie, New York.
Her claim was not allowed as she failed to furnish proof of at least six months service as required by the pension law.
There are no further data on file relative to the family of John Bouck.
Respectfully,
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner

✓ 5337.
My.
Dispenada
Let. to A. H. Becklin
April 17 th 1841
do May 13 th 1841. copy of Lawyer's afft. sent to same May 25 th 1841.
act 4 July '36