Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 9143, Jesse Carpenter, Mass.

SERVICE
Mass
Carpenter, Jesse
NUMBER
S9143.
CONTENTS
Carded

145929 New York
Pepe Carpenter
Residing in the State of New York who was a Privat in the Company commanded by Captain Warner of the Regt: commanded by Col. Duran in the Miss s am line for Conn ts dr.
Inscribed on the Roll of New York at the rate of 21 Dollars 21 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 3 day of June 1833 and sent to Elias Holliday, Honorary Clk
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $42.42 Semi-ant. allowance ending Sept r 10.60
$53.02
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. L. Williams Clerk, Book 6 Vol. 4 Page 57

State of New-York Schoharie County {s.}
On this fifth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three personally appeared in open court before the judges of the court of common Pleas of the county of Schoharie, now sitting Ipe Carpenter a resident of the town of Jefferson in the county of Schoharie, and State of New-York, aged eighty three years and eight months, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of concealment passed June 7th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as herein stated. That in the year 1775 in the month of April on hearing of the distress at Lexington that his father, two of his brothers and himself, and others, volunteered their services, and he went from Wilbraham in the county of Hampshire State of Massachusetts, where he then resided, to Cambridge where they rendezvoused, that he joined Captain Warren's company he was in the service about ten days at that time. While there, they beat up for volunteers, that his brother Daniel enlisted for eight months and he the said Ipe Carpenter was discharged at Cambridge about 70 or 80 miles from where he lived and returned home; that on the 19th day of June went to take his brother's place and joined the company on the 23 d day of June 1775. That the

company was commanded by one Captain Paul Langdon in Colonel Timothy Darnell's regiment. That he continued to serve in said company as a substitute for Daniel Carpenter for three months lacking two or three days. That on the 20th of September as near as he can recollect, his brother returned and took his place and he the said Joseph Carpenter was discharged at Roxbury (founded near Boston) and returned home.
That on the first day of January 1777 he entered the service again as a volunteer in Captain Cadwell's company in Colonel Robinson's regiment; that he joined the company at Wilbraham, in the county of Hampshire in the state of Massachusetts, where he then resided, and marched with the troops to the city of Albany, and from there to Skenesborough, and continued in the service there till the 25th day of March when he was discharged at that place and returned home. That he got home the 4th day of April 1777 he was in the service at that time including the time he was returning home three months and four days.
That he has no documentary evidence and that he knows of no person, whose testimony he can procure, who can testify to his service. And to the particular interrogatories of the court he answers, first, that he was born in the town of Greenough in the county of Hampshire in the state of Massachusetts the 5th day of June 1749, according to the information he has received from his parents. That he has no record of his age, but he understood from his parents, that his birth was recorded in the town book where he was born. That he was living in the town of Wilbraham in the county of Hampshire in the state of Massachusetts —

when he volunteered in to the service and lived there till the war closed. He then moved to the Town of Charleston, in the county of Worcester & State of Massachusetts. That he lived there about seven years and ten months, then he moved to Hosick in the county of Rensselaer county and State of New-York and lived there about eight years and two or three months, from there he moved to the town of Blenheim now town of Jefferson in the county of Schoharie and State of New-York, lived there about 16 years and then moved to the town of Nelson in the county of Madison and State aforesaid and lived there about 13 years lacking a month or two, then he moved back to Jefferson in the county of Schoharie and State aforesaid where he has lived ever since and where he now lives. That each time he entered the service he volunteered that he was at one time a substitute for his brother Daniel as he has before, in his declaration, stated. And to the fifth interrogatory he answers that he does not recollect the names of many of the officers where he served other than those he has already mentioned in his decla- ration, nor does he recollect in particular about the continental and militia regiments and asto the circumstances of his service he has stated in his declaration as near as he can recollect. He recollects the name of General Heath at

at Roxbury near Barton but whether he was a regular officer or belonged to the militia he cannot tell. There were troops at Roxbury while he was there from Connecticut as well as Massachusetts according to the best of his recollection.
The time he was at Siconderoga he thinks General Wayne had the command of the Garrison at the time and that St. Clair took the command of the garrison afterwards. That his captain, Daniel Badwell, caught the smallpox, was taken to Albany and there died as he understood. That one Parsons the lieutenant of the company commanded it after Capt. Badwell was taken away. The colonel's name was Robinson who commanded the regiment he belonged to.
That he never had any written discharge. That he is acquainted with the following persons in his neighborhood who can testify to his character for veracity and of their belief of his services as a soldier of the revolution. So wit Asa Morse, Mawm Judd, Charles Bullis, David Snyder, Deborah Burton, Henry Dinsman and others.
That he hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension Roll of the agency of any state.
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid in open court. John D. Dabard Jr. Clerk
Jesse Carpenter

Isaac Carpenter New York N o 23260.
admitted. 6 mo 11 days Private.
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Elias Holliday esq. Schomberg C-11. Schomberg

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subj d notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, showing the Service of Sergeant Carpenter
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     April 1775 vol. about 10 Pri. Capt. Warner 83 years   " sub. 2 27 " Capt. Paul Col. Langdon Gen. S er son 8 months Wilbraham   1777 vol. 3 4 " Capt. Caldwell Col. Robinson Hampshire   6 11 " Maple Traditionary  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
□ The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

Rev War
9143
INVALID.
File No. 9143
Jesse Carpenter Pr. Rev War
Act: June 14 82
Index: Vol. ser Page 59
[Arrangement of 1870.]

I James Ingalls Clergyman, of the Town of Jefferson in the County of Schoharie. hereby certify. That I am well acquainted with Jesse Carpenter of the former place and I believe him to be eighty three years of age; That he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides. to have been a soldier of the revolution and that I concur in that opinion.
James Ingalls
Subscribed and sworn
before me this 4 th Feby. 1833
Wm. G. Maynard Justic
State of New York Schoharie county Clerk's Office p. I John Gebhard p. Clerk of the said county Do certify that William G. Maynard before whom the preceding affidavit purports to have been sworn, was at the date of the same one of the Justices of the peace in and for the said county - And that I am acquainted with his hand writing and verily believe his name subscribed to the said be his proper hand writing and signature - Witness my hand and seal of office this eighth day of February 1833 - John Gebhard Jr. Clerk

Jesse Carpenter.
Declaration for
23200 Pension.

We Asa Morse & Marvin Judd of the town of Jefferson in the county of Schoharie
Hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with Jife Carpenter, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be eighty three years and eight months old; That he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion. Sworn and subscribed this day and year aforesaid in open court. John Gebhard p. Clk. Asa Morse Marvin Judd
And the court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the war department, that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the court further certify that it appears to them that James Ingalls who has signed the annexed certificate, is a clergyman residing in the town of Jefferson in the county of Schoharie. And that Asa Morse and Marvin Judd who have signed and sworn to the foregoing certificate are residents in the town of Jefferson in the county of Schoharie and are credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
William Bakenbush Henry Shafer Marvin Judd M. Mann

I, John Gebhard, Junior, Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the county of Lihouham, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court, in the matter of the Application of Miss Carpenter, for a pernean.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this fifth day of February 1833.
John Gebhard Jr. Clerk of Lihouham County court