Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 20444, for Gooding Packard, Massachusetts

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass.
Packard, Gooding Lee, Mary (Former widow)
W 20444 B.L.W. 7434-160-55-
CONTENTS

Set to T. A. Henry 3 April 52 in a P. A. 11 " " "
5570
New York Albany Mary Lee, formerly widow of Gooding Puckard
who served in the Revolutionary
war, as a Private & Sergeant
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 46 Dollars 16
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848.
Certificate of Pension issued the 5 th day of Feby 1837 and sent to
L. M. Day Canandaigua N. Y.
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under act February 2, 1848, Page 120 Vol. 1.

62,556. Mar. 3. 1833.
Apr. 12. . . .
Mary Lee, widow of Gooding Packard, Pwr., H. & H.
Capt.
Col.
Private
End? Col Wood & H.
Dis. Mass Troops
Revolutionary War.
Pensioner.
W.B. Feb 48 5570
Boston
No. 160 ab Oct 5. 1855
at home
Vol P. page 5.
Rev. War
S.W. Salisbury. Canandaigua. N.Y.

State of New York County of Ontario ss.
On this 5 th day of October July 1850. personally appeared before the Subscriber County Judge of Said County. - Mary Lee - formerly Mary Packard of Bristol in Said County, aged eighty six years who being first duly sworn doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the Acts of the Congress passed 7 th July 1838 & the Joint Resolution passed the 23 rd of August 1842.
This declarant states that she is a widow of Gooding Packard deceased who was a native of the town of Bridgewater in the State of Massachusetts and who was a soldier in the war of the revolution. - She states that she was herself a native of the said town of Bridgewater and was acquainted with the said Gooding Packard when a child, and was personally acquainted with the fact that he he was a soldier in said war - that he was out on two tours of duty - one in the early part of the war & the other at a later period - & that on the last tour of service he held the rank of Sergeant & was under Lieut. Zachariah Wadsworth of Bridgewater whom this declarant knew. This declarant states that she has seen & heard read the annexed certificate purporting to be issued from the office of the Secretary of the State of Massachusetts, dated the 16 th of April 1870 & signed by Wm. F. Tufts Deputy Secretary of said State - & which certificate purports to set forth a description of the service of Gooding Packard in the war of the revolution - And this declarant states that she believes & has no doubt that the Gooding Packard therein mentioned was her said husband -

This declarant states that she married to the said Gooding Packard in the said town of Bridgewater in the year Seventeen hundred & eighty four - and that from the time of such marriage to the time of the death of the said Gooding Packard she lived with him in lawful wedlock and had children born prior to the year 1794 -
This declarant states that the annexed record is her original family record of the birth of her children - that it was made by her said husband & is in his own hand writing - that it was made many years ago - near the time of the birth of their said children & that it contains a true statement of the time of the birth of the said children - that since the death of her said husband the said record has been in her possession.
This declarant states that the said Gooding Packard died in the said town of Broomfield  Roxbury in the year eighteen hundred & twenty eight  six - that in about one year & half after she again married a man by the name of Amos Lee - & that her last named husband died on the 2 d of October, 1849.  last  past - & that since his death she has not again married -
Sworn & subscribed to the days year first: above written before me
Mary her F Lee mark
The word "last" erased & the figures "1849" inserted before signing.
M. A. Sibley County Judge of the Court of Outarior State of New York State of New York County of Outarior ss. I hereby certify that

by reason of old age & bodily infirmity the above named declarant is unable to appear in Open Court. And I further certify that satis- -factory evidence was adduced before me that the above named Lodowick Packard died in the year 1829. and that the second husband of the above named declarant she viz Amos Lee died on the 2 nd day of October last past  1849 & that since then the said de- -clarant has not again remarried.
William H. W. W. H. W. County Judge of the County of Ontario.

THE NEW TESTAMENT OF OUR LORD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST,
Translated out of the
ORIGINAL GREEK:
AND WITH THE
FORMER TRANSLATIONS
Diligently Compared and Revised,
By His MAJESTY's Special Command.
APPOINTED TO BE READ IN CHURCHES.
O X F O R D,
PRINTED AT THE CLARENDON PRESS,
By W. JACKSON and A. HAMILTON, Printers to the UNIVERSITY; And sold by W. Dawson , at the Oxford Bible Warehouse, Paternoster Row, London. MDCCXCI.
CUM PRIVILEGIO.

Deborah Packard
Born December the 27 1784 Matthew Gooding
Packard Born May the 10 1788
Freeman a
Packard Born Sept the 20 1790
Lillah Packard Born January the 3 1793
Anson Packard Born May the 30 1795
Mary Packard Born January
the 15 1801
elson Packard Born May the 20 1806

24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field: from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.
34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
35 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables: I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.
37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
44 Again, The kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
45 Again, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
47 Again, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore, and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels, but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
51 Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.
52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
53 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence.
54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?
55 Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?
57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet

For Herod was not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house. 23 And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
C H A P. XIV.
1 Herod's opinion of Christ. 13 The miracle of the five loaves, 22 and of walking on the sea.
At that time Herod the tetrarch heard of the fame of Jesus,
2 And said unto his servants, This is John the Baptist; he is risen from the dead; and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.
3 For Herod had laid hold on John, and bound him, and put him in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife.
4 For John said unto him, It is not lawful for thee to have her.
5 And when he would have put him to death, he feared the multitude, because they counted him as a prophet.
6 But when Herod's birthday was kept, the daughter of Herodias danced before them, and pleased Herod.
7 Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask.
8 And she, being before instructed of her mother, said, Give me here John Baptist's head in a charger.
9 And the king was sorry: nevertheless for the oath's sake, and them which sat with him at meat, he commanded it to be given her.
10 And he sent, and beheaded John in the prison.
11 And his head was brought in a charger, and given to the damsel: and she brought it to her mother.
12 And his disciples came, and took up the body, and buried it, and went and told Jesus.
13 When Jesus heard of it, he departed thence by ship into a desert place apart: and when the people had heard thereof, they followed him on foot out of the cities.
14 And Jesus went forth, and saw a great multitude, and was moved with compassion toward them, and he healed their sick.
15 And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals.
16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
18 He said, Bring them hither to me.
19 And he commanded the multitude to sit down on the grass, and took the
five loaves, and the two fishes, and looking up to heaven, he blessed, and brake, and gave the loaves to his disciples, and the disciples to the multitude.
20 And they did all eat, and were filled: and they took up of the fragments that remained twelve baskets full.
21 And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children.
22 And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away.
23 And when he had sent the multitudes away, he went up into a mountain apart to pray: and when the evening was come, he was there alone.
24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary.
25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.
26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.
27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; It is I; be not afraid.
28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.
33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
34 And when they were gone over, they came into the land of Gennesaret.
35 And when the men of that place had knowledge of him, they sent out into all that country round about, and brought unto him all that were diseased;
36 And besought him that they might only touch the hem of his garment: and as many as touched were made perfectly whole.
C H A P. XV.
3 God's commandments, and men's traditions. 10 What defileth a man.
THEN came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2 Why

Copy from the Book of Records of the Publishments of the Bans of Matrimony belonging to the Town of Bridgewater in the County of Plymouth and Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
July twenty fourth Seventeen hundred and eighty four. Gooding Packard and Polley Doan both of Bridgewater.
I certify that the above is a true copy of the record, with the exception of the date, which is expressed on the record in fair legible figures, as follows: 1784 July 24 th Calvin B. Pratt Town Clerk of Bridgewater Mass.
I, Calvin B. Pratt above named depose and say, that I hold the office of Town Clerk of Bridgewater in the County of Plymouth and Commonwealth of Massachusetts and that the above is a true extract from the Records of said Town with the exception above named, as certified by me Calvin B. Pratt Town Clerk of Bridgewater Mass.
Plymouth County ss. Com th of Massachusetts June 28 th 1850.
Sworn to before me.
Atanas Hale Justice of Peace
Weymouth ss. I Jacob St. Lord Register of Probate for said County do hereby certify that Hon. Atanas Hale is a Justice of the Peace in & for said County duly commissioned & qualified and that the

to within is his true & genuine signature.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & the seal of the Court of Probate for said County this second day of July in the Year Eighteen hundred fifty.
Jacob H. Lord

State of New York } 55. County of Ontario.
On this sixth day of April A. D. 1853 personally before me, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County and State Mary Lee aged ninety years, a resident of Bristol, Ontario County in the State of New York who being duly sworn according to law declares that she is the widow of Gooding Packard deceased, who was a private & sergeant in the Company of  Revolutionary war  commanded by Captain for whose services in the said war Regiment of she is now inscribed, commanded by Colonel on the pension list at the annual rate of $46.16 under the act of Feb. 2 d 1848, payable at Albany N.Y. She refers to the proofs made in establishing her claim to said pension for proof of her said husband's services, and of her marriage on or about the sixth day of Feb. of his death in the term of  and continued in actual service in said war for the term of
honably discharged at  on or about the day of  A. D. She further states that she has not heretofore made application for Bounty Land under the Act of  and obtained Land Warrant No.  for  acres which has been legally disposed of and it cannot now be renewed. That no other Land Warrant has ever been received, and no other application for Land Bounty for the military services of her said husband has ever before been made only as above noticed and referred to.
She further states that she was married to the said Gooding Packard in Bridgewater, Massachusetts on the ninth day of August A. D. 1784 by one John Reed a Clergyman and that her name before her said marriage was Mary Joane that her said husband died at East Bloomfield N.Y. on the 19 th day of April A. D. 1829 and that she is now a widow not having intermarried since the death of her said husband Amos Lee . She makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining the Bounty Land to which she may be entitled under the Act of March 3d, 1855; and she desires her Land Warrant to be forwarded to the care of S. W. Salisbury, Esq. , Canandaigua, New York, and she states that she has no family record & that no public record of her marriage exists to her knowledge & belief.
Mary Lee
We, Gooding Packard and Adeline Packard residents of Bristol, Ontario Co in the State of New York, upon our oaths, declare that the foregoing declaration was signed and acknowledged by Mary Lee in our presence, and that we believe, from the appearance and state- ments of the applicant, that she is the identical person she represents herself to be.
Gooding Packard Adeline Packard
Ontario County, ss.
Gooding Packard of Bristol, Ont. Co. N.Y. aged 66 years, and Adeline Packard of Bristol, Ont. Co. N.Y. aged 60 years being duly sworn say each that they are well acquainted with Mary Lee the applicant in above declaration mentioned and have known her for 50 years and that they be- lieve her said declaration to be entirely true. They further state that the following is a true copy of her original affidavit in the hand writing of  that they have known the said record for they were well acquainted with Gooding Packard deceased in her life time and knew the said Gooding & the said Mary to live together as man & wife for 24 years & up to the time of his death on the 19 th day of April A.D. 1829 that they were present at his funeral burial, that the said Mary subsequently married Amos Lee, and that said Amos Lee died at East Bloomfield N.Y. on the 2 d day of October A.D. 1849 and that she is still a widow having not intermarried since the death of said Amos Lee, that they were present at the death and burial of the said Amos Lee & that said Mary has not since intermarried and that they are themselves disinterested witnesses.
Gooding Packard Adeline Packard
The foregoing declaration and affidavit were sworn to and subscribed before me the day and year first above written, and I hereby certify that I know the affiants to be credible persons; that the claimant is the person she rep- resents herself to be and that I have no interest in this claim.
Arunah Jones, Justice of the Peace of the aforesaid County

STATE OF NEW YORK, ONTARIO COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE, CANANDAIGUA.
I Certify that Amariah Jones Esquire, was at the time the foregoing declaration and affidavits purport to have been verified, a Justice of the Peace ..... in and for said County, and duly author- ized to administer oaths; and that I am well acquainted with his hand writing, and verily believe that his signatures to the fore- going certificates of verification are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County, this 7 th day of April , A. D. 185 5 .
John L. Saxon Clerk.
62,536. Mary Lee widow of Gooding Packard Bounty Land Claim Act of Mar 3 d 1838. Rev. War
Case of J. W. Salisbury Canandaigua New York

WIDOW, &c.
File No. 20444
Mary Lee widow of Frederick Dickson Sergt New York
Act: Feb 27, 48
Index:—Vol. 1 , Page 129
[Arrangement of 1870.]

✓ 74 34
S
No Ans

8929
New York (Albany) Mary Lee formerly widow of Grooming Packard who was a Pri & Sergeant in the Revolution
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 46 Dollars 16 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.
Certificate of Pension issued the 5 th day of Feby 1837 and sent to
S. M. Gray Esq Canandaigua N. Y.
[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book A 8 17 June 1844 Vol. 2. Page 79

11.032
New York. Albany Mary Lee, formerly Widow of Grooming Packard who was a pensioner under the Act of and who died in the Year 1829. of Ontario in the State of New York who was a Priv. in the Company commanded by Captain Walker  Walker of the Regt commanded by Col. Walker in the Mass line for 9 mo. 3 days Sergt 8 6 days Private
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 46 Dollars 16 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 3 rd day of February 1832 and sent to J. M. Walker Canandaigua Total amount, $ 4.40
[Act July 7, 1838.] Recorded by W. H. Walker Clerk, Book 1 Vol. 1 Page 167

Admit 4. Months 3 days long. private 6. days.
Act 38.
L. M. Hornung Canandaigua N. York

No. 14,224  NY.
Mary Lee, formerly widow of Gording Packard.
Act 7 th July 1838.
Lit e L. M. Druy 3 rd Janf. 1851
Twenty days Long 9.10 3 — 6 9-9
Act 38-
L. M. Druy Canal Company NY-

For
The Secretary of the Interior -

Mary Lee. widow of Gooding Packard -
Papers referred to, in the Letter of Appeal to the Secretary of the Interior.

Sept 14, 1824
Mary Lee formerly widow of Grooming Packard,
N.Y.
Act 7 July 1838
Married 1784 Husband 1829
Olden 9 mo 3 days Sept 43.50
1 days for 11
$46.16
For annuity
Act 38
43942
48,
Albany Roll
S. M. Knery Canandaigua N.Y.

11 1 2 4 11 2 3 20 3 4 11 11 4 5 2 2 2 5 6 1 1 6 7 2 9 2 1
10/10
27 273

No. 62556
ACT OF MARCH 3, 1855.
Received April 5, 1855.
Goodwin Packard Rev War
S. W. Salisbury Canadaigua N. Y.

Mr Packard Noel Whitman
Jul 2 nd 1830.
18
L. M. Drury Esq. Canandaigua N.Y.

West Bridgewater, Mass. July 2 d , 1850.
Dear Sir-
Yours of the 17 th ult. was duly received, & the time which it has taken to go through the necessary process, is the only apology I can offer for not answering it sooner.
The day after I received yours I called on the Town Clerk of Bridgewater, & he made a copy of the record, & as I was not a proper officer to administer the requisite oath, I took him to the Hon. Artemas Hale Esq. who lived in his neighborhood, before whom he made oath to the transcript. As the Probate Court of the County of Plymouth was to hold its next session in East Bridgewater, on this day, I thought it would be better to wait that time than to run the risk of getting a return sooner by sending a great distance by Mail. Having now obtained the Clerk's Seal &
certificate of the official station & signature of Esq. Hale, I make no further delay in forwarding the document, hoping, that with the other documentary evidence which you have obtained you will succeed in satisfying the Commissioners of Pensions so far as to obtain your object.
They are so prolific in their objections at the Pension Office, that I should not be surprised if they should trouble you for some time; till by a like process they have made you prove every negative, before the testimony of their having lived together & had children, will be admitted as evidence of the marriage. Should you be driven to the necessity of obtaining further evidence, I think it would be your best policy to write to Dr. Calvin B. Pratt, the Clerk of Bridgewater, - as he has the custody of all the

records of the old town, & surrounded by justices, & would probably, be able to make you sooner returns; or to Philo Leach Esq. who has great skill in hunting up such evidence, having been much employed in that business ever since pensions were first granted to the widows of revolutionary soldiers.
I have not, as yet, been able to obtain any evidence of the services H. of Goading Packard, there being but few men of that day now living in this part of the old town. If I should obtain any information on the subject which can be of any service to you, I will communicate it without delay.
Very respectfully yours Isaac Whitman
L. M. Denny Esq.

Cambridge Mass. Oct. 24 th 1830
Sir,
Herewith is presented the application of Mary Lee, formerly Mary Packard for a Pension under the act of 7 th July 1838.
The proof of service of # Gooding Packard her husband, and of his identity with the applicant is clear & conclusive. The application of Mrs Lee made to the Secretary of Massachusetts made before it was known what evidence the records afforded corresponds substantially with the proof furnished by the records. And this is a strong circumstance in favor of the identity. It amounts to a conviction that Gooding Packard her husband was the soldier, for the evidence could not have happened, except it was true that she could have so accurately described the service, if she had not had personal knowledge of it, or have derived it from her husband.
If any reason is sought, for not making an earlier application it may be found in the fact that she

was not a widow until one year ago -
I am very respectfully,
Your obt servt.
L. M. Drury
J. L. Edwards 863 Com d of Pensions Washington D.C.

Mary Lee, widow of Godfrey Packard. Act 7 th July 1878.
Canandaigua N.Y. Aug 10. 1881
L. M. Drury
Enc' papers & appeals from the last the decision of the Com te of Pensions in the case of Mary Lee; Claiming pension in right of her deceased husband Godfrey Packard - and so - act of Feb 1832.
Ref d to Com te of Pensions - on reexamination of order upon by late Com te & for report by the present -
W. B. L. 3 Aug 17, 81

Canandaigua, N.Y. Jan'y. 10 th 1851.
Hon Alex d H. H. Stuart: Secretary of the Interior
Sir
I am under the necessity of soliciting your attention to an examination of a claim to a pension proposed to be brought before you in an appeal from the decision of the Commissioner of Pensions.
The facts in the case are as follows.
Mary Lee claims a pension under the acts of 7 th July 1838, and the 23 rd of July August 1842, by virtue of the services of her former husband Gooding Packard in the war of the revolution.
The proof of the services consists in the exhibition of a certificate from the Secretary of the State of Massachusetts showing service under the 8 months enlistment of 1775, of Gooding Packard of Bridgewater, as appears by a return of Capt. Hayden's Company: and also showing service at a subsequent period of the war of nine months & three days as a sergeant and for 6 days as a Private of Bridgewater.
The testimony of two witnesses is furnished, showing that Gooding Packard had the reputation where he was known of having been a revolutionary soldier.
The proof of marriage consists in the production of the original family record of the birth of the children of claimant & her husband, in his hand writing.
There is furnished also a certificate from the town Clerk of Bridgewater, showing the publication of the banns of marriage between Gooding Packard & Polly Doan on the 24 th of July 1884.
The Commissioner of Pensions

various, two objections to the admission of this claim.
The duration of the service in 1775 does not appear with sufficient certainty as certified to by the Secretary of the State of Massachusetts -
In answer to this objection it may be remarked that the only enlistments in the year 1775 were for periods of 8 months, and of six months duration - In all the Certificates for that service found from the Secretary's Office of the State of Massachusetts, it is described as the eight months service - And the fact that a soldier's name is found on the rolls as late as October or November, should be taken (it is submitted) as a presumption that he was in the service for the whole time previous, for the enlistments were made in the months of April or May of that year, as will appear by reference to the Military records generally and to the Journals of Congress of the year 1775 - In many instances where the only evidence of service at all, in that year, has been found to be on an order for coats in the month of October or November, that proof has been adjudged by the Commissioners of Pensions to be sufficient to establish the service for the whole eight months - The case of Abigail Adams widow of Jonathan Adams under act of 4 th July 1836, is referred to to sustain this allegation where it will be found that the only proof whatever of the service in 1775 consisted in an order for the delivery of a coat to him dated Dec 19, 1775 -
In the case now submitted no presumption can be raised against the duration of the service, on account of there being no evidence of the delivery of a coat to Harding Packard because it is stated

in the certificate of the Secretary that no roll of the Company is found in the office - But the evidence which is equivalent to this is a return of the Company roll in the month of October on which the name of Gooding Packard is borne.
It is submitted that this evidence is sufficient under the practice which has prevailed at the Pension office to establish this claim for the eight months service in 1775. It is the only evidence that can be adduced, and if insufficient to establish the service for the whole time, it is, for at least such a portion of it as in your estimation may seem just - If it is not sufficient, then the whole will have to be rejected, and the claim admitted for the other periods of service about which there is no question.
2 nd
The other objection of the Commissioner of Pensions goes to the identity of claimant with the Polly Dean to whom Gooding Packard was married in the year 1784.
It is submitted that the objection  testimony upon this point is unusual, and is rendered entirely unnecessary by the proofs already filed in the case.
I desire to call your attention, in the first place to the coincidence of Mrs. Dean's statement of her husband's service, as appears in her application to the Secretary of Massachusetts, with the proof of service as furnished by the Secretary's Certificate - Her statement of Packard's service was derived from himself, and she made it as it had been, years before, related to her by him, before any knowledge whatever of the existence of any record evidence of her husband's service was obtained, and certainly without the least idea of what the records, if in existence would

ment shew of the service - And it turns out that this statement corresponds substantially, so exactly with the proof as exhibited by the Secretary's Certificate that it ought to remove all doubt as to her identity as his widow - The very object of the practice of furnishing this statement before an examination of the records is made & of annexing it to the certificate, is, to test the identity of the claimant with the soldier. for if the statement & proof correspond then the identity cannot be questioned. And it often happens that though there may be on the records person evidence of the service of persons of the same name as mentioned in the application, yet the secretary refuses to furnish it & in his certificate states that "no service can be found which can be identified with the person named in the application" - (See certificate in case of James Bowen herewith accompanying this) - This circumstantial proof alone, has in many instances been admitted as sufficient in the practice of the Commissioners Office to establish a claim.
But the Commissioner in this case requires the claimant to produce more satisfactory evidence of her identity with the Polly Doan whom Gooding Packard married; in other words he requires proof of her identity with herself - Had it, is submitted that this requisition is unnecessary. I had supposed that her own oath, supported by the records of the town Clerk of Bridgewater, and the family record of Gooding Packard made by himself, & showing the birth of a child named after himself, was sufficient to establish her marriage with him - No question is made that Gooding Packard, the soldier, is traced to the town of Bridgewater & that he married Polly Doan

the Commissioner calls on claimant to prove that she was Polly Doan.
In ordinary cases, where the husband has been a Pensioner, the only proof required to establish the claim of the widow is for her to prove the marriage, and this is done, either by public or private records of the fact, if attainable, such supported by her own oath - She is never called to prove her identity with herself, by the testimony of contemporaneous witnesses, if the records declare the fact, for that the record is the highest grade of proof. - She is not called upon to show that she is the person, whose maiden name is set forth in the records in connection with that of the man to whom she alleges, she was married. But there would be precisely the same propriety in requiring such proof in that case as in this - for the question is not raised that Woodring Packard, the soldier, was the same person who married Polly Doan.
But if any proof upon the point is necessary, it is submitted that it is already adduced furnished by the testimony of claimants neighbors who swear to the reputation which her husband Woodring Packard held of having been a revolutionary soldier - And it is unnecessary to go back for similar testimony to a period anterior to that specified by the witnesses - If required, the requisition cannot be complied with as will appear by the letter of Noah Whitman dated July 2 nd 1850. Hereto annexed.
It is respectfully submitted that the testimony already adduced is amply sufficient to establish this claim under the regulations, & the practice of the Pension Department.
I have been recently informed that Woodring

Packard made an application for a pension under the act of 18 th March 1818. and transmitted papers to the Department, but that it failed either for want of proof or because he possessed property sufficient to exclude him from the benefits of that act. I would request that an examination of the files under the act of 18 th March 1818. be made to ascertain if papers in his case may not be discovered which will aid in the establishment of the present claim, if needed.
A careful examination of the proofs in this case is respectfully requested, to the end that if the decision of the Commissioner of Pensions shall be deemed erroneous, it may be reversed.
I have the honor to be With the highest respect.
Your Old Servt.
L. M. Drury.

Canandaigua
March 20 th 1852.
Sir:
I enclose the voucher of Mrs Lee, which the Pension agent at Albany has refused to receive. and I would respectfully submit, if it is not sufficient to authorize the payment of the semi annual stipend upon it - If it is, I would request that instructions be sent to the agent to pay the money -
The agent returned a blank form (which is enclosed) stating how the voucher should be drawn up - but it is impossible for me to see any substantial difference between that & the one already executed.
It will be attended with a good deal of trouble & expense, to execute the voucher again, and this is the reason it is sent to you to know whether the money may not be paid without - very respectfully
Your obt servt -
L. M. Drury
J. E. Acad Sec Comm ee of Pensions Washington D.C.

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Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Secretary's Office, Boston :
April 16. 1860.
I hereby Certify, That, from an examination of the Books and Documents relating to Military Services in the War of the Revolution, which remain in this Department, it appears that.
The name of Gooding Packard is found in a return of Capt. Joseph Hayden's Co. in Genl. Thomas Ruggles's Div. in 1775. dated Oct. 16. as a private of Bridgewater. is not on return of Augt. on coat-roll of the same.
A pay roll of Capt. Eliab Howland's Co. Col. Northkill's Regt. marched from Bridgewater to Braintree Neck March 4. 1776. a private of Bridgewater 6 days.
A pay roll of Lt. Colonel Nathan's Co. Col. Lyman's Woods Regt. is found in 1778 after arriving at Tickshill as a private from May 11. 1778. 9 mos 3 days. This Co. were all from Bridgewater.
There appears to be no evidence of any other service by any person of the name.

And I further Certify, That, before search made for evidence of said facts, the application hereto annexed was filed in this Office, in the form in which the same now appears; that the search was made by myself and my clerks alone; and that said application, and the certificate above set forth, contain all the facts and circumstances within my knowledge, pertaining to the case.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto affixed the Seal of the Commonwealth the date above written.
W m Swift Sec y of the Commonwealth.

The Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is hereby requested to furnish evidence from the rolls in his office of the service of my first husband, Gooding Packard , in the war of the revolution. He was a native of the town of Bridgewater county of Plymouth & State of Massachusetts.
He entered the army of the revolution from the said town of Bridgewater and served five months at one time - at another time he served six months as a sergeant. He was in the city of New York in service, at the time the American Troops left the city - He served a part, if not all, of the time under Col. Cary - His Lieut.-ants name, it is believed, was Zachary Watkins. I am now eighty five years of age, & my memory does not enable me to state my husband's service more fully.
Witness my hand at Bristol this fifth day of April 1850.
Signed in my presence Annah Jones
Mary Lee mark
Justice of the peace - of Ontario County, N.Y.

State of New York Ontario County ss.
John Harvey Wheeler being duly sworn says that, that he resides in the town of East Bloom- field in the County of Ontario and State of New York; that he is by occupation a farmer and was fifty five years of age on the 16 th day of March last. That he has resided in the said town upwards of forty nine years. That Josiah Packard was a resident of the said town and a near neighbor of the deponent for several years before his death, which occurred about twenty years ago, according to the best of the deponent's present recollection; but he may be mistaken in respect to the time of the said Packard's death. That the said Packard moved from the said town of Bristol in the said County into the said town of Bloomfield where he resided from that time up to the time of his death. This deponent further says that the said Packard was ever since the deponent first became acquainted with him reputed among his neigh- bors to have been a soldier in actual service during the war of the Revolution; that he this deponent has frequently conversed with the said Packard on the subject of his revolution- ary services as a soldier in which conver- sation, the said Packard related to deponent many incidents and events connected with his services as such soldier which this deponent had no doubt at the time and does not now doubt were true. That this deponent's Father Benjamin Wheeler, now deceased was a soldier in the said war and received from the government of the United States a pension for his services as such; that

This deponent has frequently heard his Father say that the said Packard was a soldier in the said war. This deponent further says that the said Packard was during all the time of this deponent's acquaintance with him a man respectable citizen and a man of truth.
This deponent further says that he understood from the said Packard and from others that he moved from the town of Bridgewater or a place called Bridgewater when he came to the said county of Ontario; that this deponent was well acquainted with the wife of the said Packard who moved with him into this county and who lived with him up to the time of his death and who a few years after his death married to Amos Lee who died about one year ago and whom she survives and is now living in the town of Bristol in the said county with her son Gooding Packard. The said Widow Lee and whose Christian name is Mary is a highly respectable woman of remarkable strength of mind and preservation of faculties for a person of her years and that she has not married since the death of her said last husband Amos Lee.
Subscribed and sworn this 15 th day of October 1850 before me
John H. Hubbell
Mark T. Lillie
State of New York, } ss. County of Ontario, }
I, Stephen Murray, Jr., Clerk of the County Court, in and for the County and State above mentioned, do hereby certify, that Mark T. Lillie, whose genuine signature appears above, is, and was at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn; that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit; and that the aforesaid County Court, is a Court of Record, having general jurisdiction.
Given under my hand and Seal of Office, at Canandaigua, this 24 th day of October 1850
Stephen Murray, Jr. Clerk
and well above primfleck

This deponent has frequently heard his Father say that the said Packard was a soldier in the said war. This deponent further says that the said Packard was during all the time of this deponent's acquaintance with him a man respectable citizen and a man of truth.
This deponent further says that he understood from the said Packard and from others that he moved from the town of Bridgewater or a place called Bridgewater when he came to the said county of Ontario; that this deponent was well acquainted with the wife of the said Packard who moved with him into this county and who lived with him up to the time of his death and who a few years after his death married to Amos See who died about one year ago and whom she survives and is now living in the town of Bristol in the said county with her son Gooding Packard. The said Widow See and whose Christian name is Mary is a highly respectable woman of remarkable strength of mind and preservation of faculties for a person of her years and that she has not married since the death of her said last husband Amos See.
Subscribed and sworn this 15 th day of October 1850 before me
John H. H. H. H.
N. H. Sibley Judge of Ontario Co.
I have been for many years personally and well acquainted with the John H. H. H. H. who subscribed the above deposition. He is a citizen of Excellent character and of unimpeachable veracity.
N. H. Sibley Judge of Ontario Co.

State of New York County of Ontario ss.
John Pool of the town of the town of East Bloomfield in said County being duly sworn doth depose & say that he was well acquainted with Gooding Packard late of the town of Bloomfield & Bristol in his life time and resided for many years a near neighbor to him - This deponent states that the said Gooding Packard had the reputation in the neighborhood in which he resided, and among those to whom he was known of having been a soldier in the revolution and this deponent has never heard any doubts expressed in reference to his said services - This deponent states that he has himself often conversed with the said Packard in relation to his service as a soldier and heard him relate some of the particulars of his services - This deponent does not remember the duration of the service nor the names of the officers under whom the said Packard served, but he well remembers hearing him state that he did perform much service in said war - This deponent states that he was well acquainted with the said Packard for a period of about twenty five years before his death during which time he was a neighbor of this deponent - that he was a man of respectability of character and a person in whose statements relating to his revolutionary services

this deponent had the fullest confidenc
This deponent states that the said Packard was a native of the Town of Bridgewater in the State of Massachusetts - that when he came to this region to reside he was accompanied by his wife, Mary Packard, now Mary Lee - that after the death of the said Bridgewater Packard which occurred about nineteen years ago the said Mary, his widow, married a man by the name of Amos Lee, who died one year ago this present month and that since then the said Mary has not again married.
I worn & subscribed to the 14 th day of, October 1850.
John Pool
Before me -
Orson Benjamin Justice of the Peace of Ontario County State of New York
I certify that I am well acquainted with the above named John Pool. That he is a man
State of New York, } ss. County of Ontario,
I, Reuben Murrays, Jr., Clerk of the County Court, in and for the County and State above mentioned, do hereby certify, that Orson Benjamin whose genuine signature appears above, is, and was at the time of signing the same a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid, duly commissioned and sworn; that all his official acts as such are entitled to full faith and credit; and that the aforesaid County Court, is a Court of Record, having general jurisdiction.
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Given under my hand and Seal of Office, at Canandaigua, this 24 th day of October 1850
Reuben Murrays Jr. Clerk

this deponent had the fullest confidence This deponent states that the said Packard was a native of the Town of Bridgewater in the State of Massa- -chusetts. that when he came to this region to reside he was accompanied by his wife, Mary Packard, now Mary Lee - that after the death of the said Gooding Packard which occurred about nineteen years ago the said the said Mary, his widow, married a man by the name of Amos Lee, who died one year ago this present month and that since then the said Mary has not again married.
I sworn & subscribed to this 14 th day of, October 1850.
John Pool
Before me -
Orson Benjamin Justice of the Peace of Ontario County State of New York
I certify that I am well ac- -quainted with the above named John Pool. that he is a man of credibility, & that his statements above made is in my opinion -letter to the fullest credit.
Orson Benjamin Justice of the Peace of Ontario County N.Y.