Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 16,387, for Jacob Rema, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Rena, Jacob Dorothy
W16387
CONTENTS

6147
New York
Dorothy Rema, deceased widow of Jacob Rema - who was a pensioner under the Act of and who died on the 21. Dec r . 1819, of Oswego, in the State of N.Y. - who was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Ruff of the reg commanded by Col. Clydam the NY line for 21 mo 9 d's
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany at the rate of 71 - Dollars 00 Cents per annum, to commence on the 1 th day of March, 1836, Kending March 4, 1841 - Increased from $1. 25 / 100 p. ann.
Certificate of Pension issued the 28 th day of Apr 45 and sent to A. A. Van Horne, Fonda, Montgomery County. Total amount $ 355
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Recorded by J. L. Swann Clerk book L Pol. Page 179
Payments already made Deducted.
Payf to Dan l Rema adm r for benefit of John Jacob Peter Christopher, Mary Daniel } Rema
Margaret Blakesley - Betsy Brooks, Hannah Plant, Catharine Armstrong - only Sur. Children - She having died on the 27 May 1841 -
Rept Letter to Agt. Apr 28. 1845.

6817 Widow Dorothy Rema Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of July 7, 1838. C
M married 12 Apr 1785 Husband died 24 Dec 1819 -
admd 6 mo 12 days/yr $21. \frac{33}{100}
No deduction
H. Hubbell wif Richland NY
189

State of New York Oswego County ss.
On this  fourth day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and forty, personally appeared before me Samuel T. Tremain one of the Judges of the County Courts of the said County, Dorothy Rema a resident of the town of Anthony in the County aforesaid aged seventy seven years, who being duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declarations, in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed July 7, 1838 entitled "An act granting half pay and pensions to certain widows." That she is the widow of Jacob Rema who was a private soldier in the army of the Revolution.
The claimant has no documentary evidence in support of the claim and does not know the time or place when and where her late husband entered or left the army but learned from him that he enlisted as a private soldier in the Revolutionary service and that during the last term of his service he held the office of sergeant, that the whole time he served was eighteen months according to the best knowledge and belief of the deponent.
She further declares that she was married to the said Jacob Rema on the 12 th day of April A.D. 1785 that her husband the aforesaid Jacob Rema died on the 22 nd day of December in the year of Lord one thousand eight hundred and nineteen. That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first day of January seventeen hundred and ninety

fore viz at the times above stated. Sworn and subscribed on by Dorothy Rema the day & year above written. Rema before me. S. Freeman Judge Oswego County courts
I certify that the above named Dorothy Rema cannot attend the county court on account of bodily infirmity S. Freeman Judge Os. Co. Courts
State of New York Oswego County ss. Clerks Office
I Daniel H. Marsh Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Samuel Freeman Esquire, before whom the preceding Affidavit or Declaration appears to have been subscribed and sworn to was on the day of the date thereof a Judge of the County Courts of said County duly Commissioned and sworn as such And further that I am acquainted with the hand writing of said Judge and verily believe that the signatures "S Freeman" subscribed to the above Jurat & certificate are in the proper hand writing of of said Judge
In testimony whereof I have hereto affixed the seal of said County and subscribed my name this 15 th day of February 1840. D. H. Marsh Clerk.

State of New York Herkimer County ss.
State of New York Herkimer County ss. I Peter Roman of Schenectady in said County being duly sworn deposeth and saith that he was sixty eight years of age in the month of April last according to the best of his information & belief, and that he is a brother of Jacob Roman late of Herkimer in the County of Oneida in said State deceased, that at the commencement and for some time during the Revolutionary war this deponent lived with in his father's family near the Mohawk River in the town of Schenectady in said County of Herkimer, and then went into Fort Herkimer or under its protection, and some time after that went to reside at what is now called Canajoharie in the County of Montgomery in said State, that although he was young at the time he recollects well of services performed by his said brother as a soldier in the service of the United States in said war, he enlisted from time to time and served in said service as much as one year and a half, he was in the battle at Said Canajoharie between the forces under Gen. Van Rensselaer on the one side and Sir John Johnson on the other when Sir John took his tower down through Oneida Chenango, Schoharie & Counties, this deponent's father and his brother John were taken prisoners on the same occasion and carried off and were gone a fortnight and then escaped and came home, that during the said service of his said brother as a soldier when they would learn that he was going part or coming near their residence the mother of this deponent would prepare shirts & clothes for said Jacob and this deponent and his brother George older would go and carry them to him and carry such as he wanted washed or repaired again back to their mother who would prepare them and after she heard of the approach of the said Gen. Jacob she would again intend this deponent and his said brother George to carry them to him, that Jacob was taken prisoner by the Indians and Tories at a place in Montgomery County at a place then called Schenectady and carried to Montreal and detained there in prison from about the month of July until the last days in December of the same year, when he was taken back and had begun cutting hay and

having been the second time, this was in addi- tion to his said year and a half term as aforesaid, and this deponent further saith that his said brothers John, Jacob & George are dead and further this deponent saith not -
Subscribed & sworn
the 23 rd day of January 1840
Before Isaac Piper Reams
Peter Renna
I certify that I am acquainted with the above named Peter Renna and that his state- ments above are entitled to full credit Dated January 23 rd 1840
Isaac Piper Reams
State of Maryland
Horikins County ss I John Dyson Clerk of said
County do hereby certify that Isaac Piper before whom the foregoing Affidavit was taken was at its date one of the Justices of the peace of the County of Horikins duly elected and qualified and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and hereby believe the signature to be genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County this 23 rd January 1840
Dyson Clerk

I Jacob C Fonda do hereby certify that on examina- tion of the records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Coughnawaga of which the Reverend Thomas Romeyn was Pastor during the period of the Revolutionary War and for some years after embracing the years Seventeen hundred and Eighty five and six it appears that there is no record of the marriage of Jacob Beman and that the records appear to be some what mutilated and destroyed Given under my hand this 20 day of January 1840
J. D. Fonda, Pastor of The Reformed Dutch Church of Coughnawaga
State of New York Montgomery County ss I Jacob C Fonda above named depose and say that I am the regular successor of the Reverend Thomas Romeyn above named and that the above certificate by me made is in all respects just and true
Subscribed and sworn
to this 20 th day of January 1840
J. D. Fonda
Before me John Morrall Justice of the peace
I certify that I am well acquainted with the Reverend Jacob C Fonda above named and that he is now the regular successor of the Reverend Mr Romeyn as stated above and that he is now Pastor of the said Church and that his statements above are entitled to full credit
of Mr Justice of the peace

State of New York } Montgomery County } Catherine Regal of the Town of Mohawk County & State aforesaid being duly sworn doth depose and say that she was twenty nine years old some time in the Month of October last and that some time in the Month of April (about the Twelfth day of said Month) in the year Seventeen hundred and Eighty five Jacob Reman was married to Dorothea Plenty (now Dorothea Reman) and that the said Doro- thea Reman is a sister to this deponent and that she this deponent was present at the said marriage and was introduced to the said Dorothea and stood up with her and saw her married to the said Jacob at the time specified and further this deponent says not Subscribed and sworn to her This 20 th day of January 1840 Catherine + Regal marks Before me John Merrill Justice of the Peace
I certify that I am well acquainted with Mrs. Catherine aforesaid and that she is a person of good repute and of good moral character and that her statements above are entitled to full credit J. M. Justice of the Peace

State of New York
Montgomery County
Clerk's office ss. I do certify that the within Name John Morris Esquire whose name is subscribed to the jurats of the foregoing affidavits was on the day of these respect- ive dates a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County and duly authorized by the Laws of the said State to administer Oaths and that his signature subscribed to the same is genuine
In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and the Seal of my office this 20 th day of January 1840
A. J. Gonne Clerk

Rena Dorothy Rena died
N.Y.
abt 7. July 38
increased -
adm'd
21. mo 9 ds/12
$71.
Deduct what has been paid - To Daniel Rena adm. for benefit of John Jacob. Petrus Christopher Mary & Daniel Rena - & Margaret Blakeley Betsey Brock - Han nah Plants - Catha rine Armstrong - chil -dren.
G. F. Yates Esq Advocate Funds of First

The People of the State of New York, by the Grace of God free & independent. To all persons to whom these presents come, or may concern - send Greeting.
Know ye that at a Surrogate's Court, held in & for the County of Rensselaer, before Samuel Ford Surrogate of the said County, on the 28 th day of February A.D. 1845, the most satisfactory evidence was adduced to prove that Dorothy Rama the widow of David Rama departed this life on the twenty-sixth day of May, — one thousand eight hundred & forty one — leaving her surviving the following named children, who are all still living and are all of lawful age, to wit: John Rama, David Rama who reside in the County of Orange & State of New York, Margaret Blackley, Peter, Brodick, Hannah Plants, Peter L. Rama, who reside in Canada, Catherine Armstrong who resides in Upper Canada, Christopher Rama who resides in the State of Ohio, Mary Rama, Daniel Rama, who reside in Rensselaer County.
All of which is hereby certified. And it is further certified that letters of Administration on the estate of said Dorothy Rama deceased have been granted to Daniel Rama — one of the sons of said Dorothy Rama deceased. And further that said Dorothy Rama was a Pensioner of the United States. All of which is hereby certified accordingly. (NOTE: The Editor Mr. Adams the words David & Rama in 8 th line inserted before signing this Certificate), the word Dorothy also inserted in 20 th line.
In witness whereof we have caused the seal of office of our said Surrogate to be hereunto affixed. Witness Samuel Ford Surrogate of our said County at Catskill Falls this 28 th day of February A.D. 1845.
Samuel Ford Surrogate.

Pension Office
December 14. 1840
Sir,
The additional evidence, viz. the certificate of the Comptroller of N. York, shows that a private of the name of Jacob Rema served under Capt. Reiff in 1781 about twelve days; but no such service is asserted by Dorothy Rema, nor is it alluded to by a witness. The tour of six months mentioned by Peter Buki was claimed by him in his application under the act of 1832, but not allowed for want of sufficient proof. It seems probable that Jacob Seber, alias Seaver, was a Lieutenant, and not Captain, as alleged, in the ranger service of the year 1776. If so, evidence of it may be found in the Office of Secretary of State at Albany. That fact, if established, might sustain the claim to six months service at that time. Upon the proof on file, this claim cannot be allowed.
I am respectfully Your Obdt. Servt.
J. L. Edward
H. Hubbell, Esq. Richland N. York
Entitled to 21. mo. 9 ds.

Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 16387
Dorothy Reema
Widow of
Jacob Reema
Brn Rev War
Act July 7 th 1838
Index: Vol. M , Page 155
[Arrangement of 1870.]

State of New York Secretary's Office
I certify that it appears by the Records of the provincial Congress of New York in this Office that on the 6 th day of September 1775 the following persons were duly appointed officers of a company in the Regiment of Militia in the then County of Troyen whereof Nicholas Hercheimer was Colonel viz!
Jacob W. Seeber Captain Francis Ute 1 st Lieutenant Adam Sibe 2 d Lieutenant
Arch d Campbell Dep. Secretary
Albany March 16. 1841.

Application of Dorathy Rema widow of Jacob M. Rema for an increase of pension under the act of 7 th July 1838.
Letter of G. H. Yates atty. asserting claim - and affidavits

Nov. 23 d 1844.
Sir.
Dorathy Rema widow of Jacob M. Rema received a pension of $21 50 / 100 per annum under the act of 7 th July 1838. It is in proof that Rema (or Remour) served in a Company of Rangers in 1776 for 6 m th s. Also in Col. Clydes Regiment how long I am not informed - but presume about one week as the pension certificate was granted for $21 33 / 100
Application for increase is made on the ground that Rema served also in the Company of Capt. John Bradpick, documentary proof of the service of which Company in 1778 &c I forwarded to your office not long since in the matter of the application of Adam Helman's widow. In addition I send herewith two affi- davits of Nicholas Myrs to the effect that Rema served in the Company of Rattlemer Commanded by Capt Gray. The roll of this Company you have also on file in your Office. I am your Ob t Servant
G. F. W. S.

N. York Dorothy Rema
let. to Claimant 5. June 1840 to H. Habbell 8 June 1840 to same 29. Oct. 1840 to same 14. Dec. 1840
Set July 1838

6147 Albany New York Maryanna widow of J. C. Hema, decd.
who was a pensioner under the Act of and who died on the 24 th December 1819 at Troy N.Y. in the State of N.Y. who was a Private in the Co. A. commanded by Captain Stark of the Regt. commanded by Col. Cuyler in the N.Y. Militia time for 6 months & 12 days
Inscribed on the Roll of Albany P. at the rate of 21 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 1 th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 22 nd day of April 1841 and sent to Herbert Richmond N.Y. Arrears to the 1 th of March 1841 $106:65 Pension allowed ending
$106:65 { Act July 7, } 1838.
Recorded by H. C. Addison Book 8 Vol. 2 Page

Service allowed Comrs in 76 80 - 80 Compt-
  Bradfickes roles - 6 6 8   on July 78 - 1. 1d. 7.   - Aug 1 -   - Sep 1 -   - Oct 1 -   Document in Anna Helmens Nov. 1783 2 -   Capt. Gray's roll - 1780 9   21 9- 

Am at Oct 27 '40
PAID
Wm Lloyd Jones Dorothy Reams Hon. J. K. Edwards Comm ee of Pensions Washington City

Richland N.Y. Oct. 23 d
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Sir -
Please inform me whether any more testimony is required to entitle Widow Dorothy Rema to a Pension for the six months service of her husband in the Rev. War
Resp y Your Ob. Servt.
Hiram Hubbell

Richland N.Y. April 3, 1841
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Sir - Accompanying this I hand you your communication of Dec. 14. 1840 in relation to the application of Dorothy Rema.
The service of 12 days shown by the cert. of the Camp. of N.Y. was doubtless performed by the husband of the applicant. It is not singular that she should not recollect having heard him speak of that short tour. Neither is it singular that she or the witness Peter Birki, should omit the letter W. in the name of Capt. Jacob W Seebert's name.
The enclosed Certificate of the Sec. of the State of N.Y. shows that Jacob W. Seebert was a Captain, as stated by the applicant, and not a Lieutenant.
The Applicant is miserably poor & needy, and so are her relatives with whom she resides - They are all so poor that the old Lady receives occasionally some assistance from the Over. of the Poor. If therefore she is entitled to a Pension for 6 months service if no more, I hope that it may be granted her. I have no interest whatever in the result, any more than any stranger ought to feel who should be acquainted with the circumstances.
Very respectfully
Your Obedt. Servt. Hiram Hubbell

Dec 12. 1840
NY
Good friend
Dorothy Rena,
Hon. J. L. Edwards
Com: of Pensions
Washington City
ENCL
RECEIVED

Richland New York Dec: 7, 1840
J. L. Edwards Esq.
Sir -
Enclosed I hand you a Certificate of the Comp y of this state relative to the services of Jacob Rema in the Rev. War, to aid the application of Dorothy Rema for a Pension.
I do not understand the object or effect of the Certificate or certificates of 1781 - but if this paper with the aff. of Peter Birchi are sufficient evidence that the Widow is entitled to a pension for any amount she requests that a certificate to that effect may be forwarded to me, as he is entirely poor and dependant upon very poor relatives for a support. She is indeed an object of charity.
Respectfully Your Obedt. Servt. Hiram Hubbell

Richland N.Y. Feb. 17. 1840
J. L. Edwards Esq. Comm. of Pensions
Sir - Accompanying this I hand you the Declaration of Dorothy Rema made for the purpose of obtaining a Pension under the Act of July 7. 1838. Also several Affidavits relating to the same.
Respectfully Your Obdt. Servt.
Hiram Hubbell

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th day of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
  1781 Dec 1 11648 Jacob Rema Gri -1- -1- 4-   (Scribbles) (Scribbles) (Scribbles) (Scribbles) (Scribbles) (Scribbles) 
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, November 25 1840. }
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. Three — now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
  First—under Capt. John Ruff Lt Col. Sam d Clyder Regiment Montgomery Co   Second, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " "   Third, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " "   Fourth, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " "   Fifth, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " "   Sixth, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " "   Seventh, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " "   Eighth, " " (Scribbles) " " (Scribbles) " " 
A. W. D. Inaway Dep. Compt.

State of New York County of } ss.
Nicholas Myers of the town of Utica Oneida County, aged eighty-two — years & upwards, being duly sworn and examined, doth depose and say, that at the commencement of & during the revolutionary war (when not on military duty), he resided in the town of German Flatts in the then County of Tryon, and served as a militia man in the Companies commanded by Captain Bastin & other officers commanding in the beat to which this Deponent belonged. That he also served in the Company of Battioneers, fatigue men and laborers commanded by Captain Samuel Gray who hailed from the neighborhood in which this Deponent resided. That said Samuel Gray made the greater part, if not all of his enlistments in the County of Tryon aforesaid — and this Deponent well recollects that such enlistments commenced on about the 1 st January 1780, and were continued for two or three months or until the required complement of men had been made up, and the term or period of enlistment, was for one year, or until the 1 st January 1781.
This Deponent was well acquainted during said war with Jacob Rema who resided in the now County of Herkimer.
And further this Deponent saith, that he well recollects that said Jacob Rema enlisted into said Company of Battioneers commanded by said Captain Samuel Gray. The precise day of the enlistment of said Jacob Rema this Deponent cannot recollect, but knows it was previous to the month of March 1780, and that he served until the full end & termination, or that he served out the full term of his enlistment.
And this Deponent further saith, that

the place where said company of Captain Gray performed this service as aforesaid, was on the then Hawk River -
his Nicholas X Myers mark
Subscribed & sworn this 30th of August 1841, & I certify that said Nicholas Myers is a credible witness.
Timothy Campbell a Justice of the Peace in & for said County.
State of New York County of Herkimer ss Clerk's Office
I hereby certify that Timothy J. Campbell whose name appears to the within affidavit, was at the time thereof a Justice of the Peace in & for said County duly elected & qualified to act as such; & that his signature to said jurat is genuine.
Witness my hand & the seal of said County, this 31 day of August 1841.
Albert Alston Deputy
Dorothy Rema widow of Jacob Rema - act of 1838 Asst. of Nick Myers

In Matter of Dorothy Rena
Aff.

State of New York Derkine - County of
Nicholas Deyers of Utica in the county of Oneida in said State being duly sworn deposes and saith that he has resided in Utica aforesaid for about two months the last part that before that he last resided in Oswego in the county of Oswego in said State - that he is aged eighty two years and upwards according to the best of his remem- ory.
and this deponent further saith that about the first day of January 1780 he and Jacob Newman now deceased and who was the hus- band of Dorothy now his widow agreed to enlist to enter the service of the United States in the war of the Revolution under Captain Samuel the Gray to serve until the first day of January then next and that about a month after they had agreed to enlist as aforesaid they put their names down as enlisted, that within a few days thereafter it was noised about that this deponent & said Jacob had been taken in by said enlist- ment and had in fact enlisted for during the war.
and this deponent further saith that about the first day of March in the same year this deponent and the said Jacob as well as the others who

had enlisted under said Captain were called and mustered into service and were then informed that they were in fact enlisted only until the first day of January then next and that this deponent and said Ser- geant thereupon returned said Ser- geant and served according to said enlistment up to the first day of the first day of January 1881 - and this deponent further saith that he does not recollect the name of either of the field officers, his lieutenants name was Peter Reyser, the sergeants name he does not recollect, that when they were at Fort Stanwix they were under the command of Col. Willet, one Sickles was Paymaster and John Chenoweth that his right is not & they gave him his mark military, and further this deponent saith not -
Subscribed & sworn to before me Nicholas X. Myers his mark the 18 th day of September 1841 Before me Timothy H. Campbell a Justice of the Peace
State of New York Verplank County ss. I certify that I am acquainted with the above named Nicholas Myers and that his statement is entitled to credit - Dated September 18 th 1841
Timothy H. Campbell a Justice of the Peace
Just H. H. H.

State of New York - Oswego County, 5 th
Peter Birki of the town of Sandy Creek in said county being duly sworn deposith and saith that he is a Revolutionary Pensioner of the United States, and is eighty six years of age, that at the commencement of the war of the Revolution in 1775 he resided at a place called Germantown, or Schuyler on the Mohawk River in said state, that at that time he was well acquainted with Jacob Rema who was a a few years younger than this deponent, they both were then living with their Parents who resided near each other That in the spring of 1776 the said Jacob and this deponent enlisted in Capt. Jacob Seever's company of Rangers. That they were first marched to Fort Stanwix and assisted for a time in building the Fort. That afterwards Col. Dayton arrived with a Regiment called Jersey Blues , Capt. Seever then marched his company down to accompanied by Col. Dayton's Regt. Herkimer, but this deponent is not quite certain that the enlistment and service mentioned were in the year 1776, but they were the same year that Col. Dayton & the Jersey Blues arrived. That the said Jacob Rema served his said term of six months in said company & a few days more as this according to the best recollection of this deponent and as he believes, as he well recollects the Officers endeavored to prevail on them to stay in the service for a longer term.
This deponent further states that he understood at the time that the said Jacob Rema with his Father's family removed from Germantown on account of the Indians after the said service to a place then known as Albany bush, and that he also understood at that time during the said war that said Jacob Rema was taken prisoner by the Indians and Tories and carried to Canada, which fact he has ever understood to be true, although he never saw the said Jacob.

or any of his fathers family during said war after they removed as aforesaid to Albany Bush. That after Capt. Severs Company went to Fort Stanwix Col Dayton's Regt. arrived, and soon after Col. Ganservoorts Regt. arrived & it was then that Dayton & Severs Troops were marched down to Herkinner. And further this deponent saith not. There being an interlineation in the 17 th line of 1 st page.
Subscribed and sworn this 8 th day of February 1840, before me - and I also certify, that notwithstanding the great age of the said Peter Bireki he is able to walk about and labor some and appears to be sound in mind and memory, and is a credible person upon whose statements full reliance may be placed
Peter his X Bireki mark
In presence of Lawrence Hiding
Hiram Hubbell, Justice of the Peace
State of New York Clerk's Office } ss. Owego County }
I Daniel A. Marsh Clerk of said County do hereby certify that Hiram Hubbell whose name is subscribed to the above certificate was on the day of the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in and for said County duly appointed and qualified as such. And further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and verily believe that the signature "Hiram Hubbell" subscribed to said certificate is genuine
In testimony whereof I have hereto affixed the seal of said County and subscribed my name this 15 th day of February 1840. D. A. Marsh Clerk

Earl Schuyler 2 Sept
Double 20
Giles F. Yates Esquire Schenectady N.Y.
Guest A. H. Beman

Catskill Schuyler August 26 th 1842.
Dear Sir
The amount of pension allowed my mother Dorothy Rena as the widow of Jacob M Rena was only $21 50 per annum, and she received pay only for five years services. Now I understand that other widows receive 10. years back pay. My mother married in the year 1785 and so there can be no objection on the score of marriage. You will do me the favor to investigate this matter and address the Commissioner of Pensions if necessary; Send your answer to this place.
Yours Truly
Peter J Rena
To Giles F Bates Esqr, Secretary