Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 25377, for Jacob Rattenauer, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Rattenauer Jacob or Rottenour or Rattenhour
825377
CONTENTS

Michigan from New York.
Transf to Michigan 17 March 1831 from 4 March 1830. and with sent to B. J. Rice. Detroit Mich.
Jacob Rattenauer Private,
Captain Lyb's company of the Col. Colyde's regiment of Militia.
Ratio of disability, total.
Date of discharge
Inscribed on the roll of N. York Agency. at Five dollars per month, increased to increased to $8:00 p. mo. by act of 24 th April 1816. —
Formal Certificate of pension issued the 2 nd of Sept. 1824. and sent to Cyrus Hecox, Esq. Lyons, N. York.
Arrears to 4th
Semi-ann. all'ce ending

Jacob Rottenhower came before me one of the one of the Justices of the County of Mont- gomery in the State of New York and made Oath that he is the same Jacob Rottenhower to whom the original certificate (of which the following is a certified copy) was given vizt
We the Subscribers Abraham J. Broach and Peter Gomproot Junrs Do certify that upon an Examination in pursuance of the Law, entitled an Act making provi- sion for Officers & Men and Seamen, who have been dis- abled in the service of the United States' passed 22 d March 1836 We find that Jacob Rottenhower residing

I Jacob Bratteneer of Montgomery County in the State of New York do hereby constitute of appoint David Gabbecall my lawful Attorney to receive in my behalf of the Person appointed by the United States to pay the Pensions due to Invalids the moiety or whole amount of my annual Pension as an Invalid of the United States from the Fourth day of March One Thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal this day of
Sign'd & Sealed in presence of
Acknowledged before me

Jacob Ratteneer

Thousand seven hundred and eighty six
Staten Island
Peter Gansvoort
I certify the foregoing certificate to be a true copy of the Original as recorded in the State Auditor's office
Peter Gansvoort Clerk
and the said Jacob Rottenhoefer on Oath as aforesaid further saith that he served as a Private in Capt. Gylfe's company in the Regiment of Militia in the service of the United States commanded by Col. Gylfe at the time he was discharged and that he now resides in the County of Montgomery in the State of New York and has resided there ever since his Birth
Sadler's Bay of 1791
Before me

State of New York
County of Wayne ss; On this ninth day of August 1824 before me the Subscriber, a Justice of the peace for said County of Wayne, personally appeared Jacob Rattenhour, who upon his oath declares, in addition to what he has declared & sworn, in his affidavit made before me the said Justice, upon the seventeenth day of July last, and which is hereto annexed, that the original Certificate or document, upon & by virtue of which he has drawn his pension, was, as he has in his said affidavit, before declared, shortly after obtaining the same, sent to the Loan office in the City of New York, for the purpose of drawing his pension money - that he afterwards procured a Certified Copy thereof, which is hereto also annexed; that he is the identical Jacob Rattenhour mentioned in the original certificate or document, a copy whereof is, as before mentioned, hereto annexed; that he has ever since the 14 th September 1786, the date of said certificate, up to the 4 th September 1823, drawn his pension money, and has ever since he procured the said Certified copy (hereto annexed) drawn his pension money, by means of the same and which has been between thirtyfive and forty years that he has never been able since the same was sent to the Loan office in New York to procure the original and never expects to be able to procure the same.
Before me
his Jacob X Rattenhour mark
William Tipton Justice of the peace

State of New York
County of Wayne ss; On this Ninth day of August 1824 before me, the subscriber, a Justice of the peace for said county of Wayne, personally appeared Joseph M. Demmon of Lyons in the county and state aforesaid, who upon his oath, declares and says that he has been acquainted with Jacob Rattenhour the deponent named in the foregoing affidavit, since early in the year 1817; that the firm of Leach & Demmon, of which he was one, drew the pension money of the said Jacob Rattenhour, from the 4 th March 1817, to 4 th March 1820 from time to time as the same became due; that the same was drawn by means of the certified Copy of the original Certificate given, as appears, by Hon. Ten Broeck & Peter Grunsevoort, at the City of Albany the 14 th September 1786, which Certified Copy is annexed to the foregoing affidavit of the said Jacob Rattenhour and that he is the same person who drew his pension money by means of the said Copy of certificate annexed to his said affidavit.
Joseph M. Demmon
Before me
William Sisson Justice of the Peace
I hereby that the above deponent Joseph M. Demmon is a credible person. William Sisson Just. Peace
State of New York
County of Wayne ss; On the Ninth day of August 1824 before me the subscriber, a Justice of the peace for said county of Wayne, personally appeared Cyrus H. Cox of Lyons in the county aforesaid, who upon his oath declares that he has for several years been acquainted with Jacob Rattenhour named in the foregoing affidavit; that he has procured his pension money for him from the 4 th March 1820, to the 4 th September 1823, by means of the Certified Copy of an original Certificate, given by

Also Ten Broek & Peter Gausevoort at the City of Albany, which said Certified Copy, is the same that is annexed to the above and foregoing Affidavit of the said Jacob Rattenhorn, and has always understood him that the original was sent to the Loan Office in the City of New York & could not be found, and that he the said Jacob Rattenhorn the aforesaid deponent, is the same person who has drawn a pension by means of said Certified Copy, which is annexed to his said Affidavit, Cyrus Heer
Before me
William Sisson Justice of the peace
I hereby certify that Cyrus Heer of the above deponent is a credible person - William Sisson Just. Peace

September 14, 1916
Lucia R. Fellows, Randolph Lodge, Ellsworth, Maine.
Madam:
In response to your letter dated the thirty-first ultimo, you are advised that the papers in the claim of Jacob Rattenauer (or Rottenour), Sur. File No. 35,377 , Rev. War, show that he served as a Private in Captain Lyb's company, Colonel Clyde's regiment of Militia, and was wounded in his hip in an action with the enemy in 1781.
He was pensioned for said wound at $60 per annum from March 4, 1789; increased to $96 per annum from April 24, 1816.
Soldier was born about 1758; in 1781, he resided in Montgomery County, New York, where he stated, he had lived ever since his birth. In 1824, he was a resident of Lyons, Wayne County, New York, and removed thence, about 1831, to Wayne County, Michigan.
There is no data relative to family.
Very respectfully,
G. M. Saltzgeber
Commissioner.

25377 INVALID.
Peix War
File No. 25377
Jacob Rottenauer Pris N.Y. Mil.
Act: _____
Index:—Vol. 2 , Page 332
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1916. Dept. 14. History to Lucia R. Fellows. Fr.

New York.
Jacob Rattanaur, Private U. S. Army.
Inscribed on the roll of New York, at $5, and increased to $8, per month, by law 24 Apl. 1816. —

Application for a new Certificate
State of New York
County of Wayne ss; On this seventeenth day of July 1824; before me, the subscriber, a Justice of the peace for the said County of Wayne, personally appeared Jacob Rattenhour, who, on his oath, declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by Captain Lys in the regiment commanded by Colonel Blyde in the service of the United States; that his name was placed on the pension Roll of the State of New York; that he received a certificate under the signatures of Abraham Ten Broeck and Peter Gansevoort Junior (a copy of which was heretofore forwarded with his affidavit to the Office of Secretary of War, a few weeks since) that he never received from the Secretary of War any Certificate, nor any other certificate, than the one above referred to; but now wishes to obtain one - which said Certificate was dated at the City of Albany the fourteenth day of September A.D. 1786, and at, or near, or soon after, that date, he sent the same to the Loan Office in the City of New-York for the purpose of drawing his pension money, and it was, as he verily believes, deposited in said Loan Office and has never been in his possession since; that he lately sent to said Loan Office for it, but could not obtain it, and verily believes he shall never be able to procure the same.
his Jacob X Rattenhour mark
Before me
William Sisson Justice of the Peace

State of New York Wayne County Clerk's Office fr. S. Hugh Jameson Deputy Clerk of of said county, do hereby certify, that William Sifon Esquire whose name is subscribed to the within certificate was on the day of the date of the said certificate a Justice of the peace of said county of Wayne duly appointed and sworn, and further that I am acquainted with the hand writing of the said William Sifon and verily believe the signature of William Sifon subscribed to said certificate to be his proper hand writing.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said county, this nine- teenth day of July 1824.
Hugh Jameson Dep. Clk.

To the Hon. the Secretary of War
Sir
Enclosed are the necessary oaths and affidavits to to obtain a transfer of Jacob Rottenmeyer an Invalid Pensioner to the Michigan Agency. Please to forward the transfer to the undersigned.
I am Sir your very respectful and humble Servant
Detroit. March 5, 1831
R. A. Rice
John H. Eaton Esq.

County of Wayne } ss. Territory of Michigan }
On this Fifth day of March A.D. 1831, before me the subscriber a Justice of the Peace for said County of Wayne, personally appeared Jacob Rottenour, who on his oath declares, that he is the same person who formerly belong- -ed to the company commanded by Captain Lyb, in the Regi- -ment commanded by Colonel Glyde, in the service of the United States, that his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of New York, from whence he has lately removed that he now resides in the Territory of Michigan where he intends to remain, and wishes his pension to be there payable in future, the following are his reasons for removing from the State of New York to the Territory of Michigan, vis for the purpose of living in the neighborhood of his relatives.
Sworn & subscribed before me this Fifth day of March A.D. 1831
His Jacob Rottenour Mark
Ellis D. Hopkins J. Peace
Territory of Michigan County of Wayne } On this Fifth day of March A.D. 1831, Personally appeared before me the undersigned Justice of the Peace in & for said County John Papage, and made oath that the above named Jacob Rottenour is the identical Jacob Rottenour named in a pension certificate now in his possession dated September 2 d A.D. 1824, that the person who has taken the above oath is the person described in the affidavit
Ellis D. Hopkins Justice of the Peace

I hereby certify that the above named John Rapage is a person of veracity
Ellis Dotty V. Brace
I, James M. Whipple, Clerk of the County Court of the County of Wayne in the Territory of Michigan, certify that Ellis Dotty is a Magistrate as above, and that the foregoing signatures purporting to be his is genuine. In testimony whereof I have hereunto affixed my seal of office, and subscribed my name this 5 th day of March A. D. 1831
J. M. Whipple
Clerk of the Court aforesaid

Longwy Aug 11
J. L.
Secretary
For Journal Certificate
Recd. 26 Aug 1824
W. H. Brown
Wm
City
Washington
free
Esq.

Lyons 9 August 1824
J. C. Calhoun Esqr Dear Sir
I recd yours of the 30 of July last stating that there was something man- wanting to obtain Paul Rottenhans Certificate he has him with annexed a copy of his original Certificate as you will see with his affidavit of the same you will perceive there is some form on this same paper that does not relate to this but we could not well separate them we have endeavored to send you every thing that we think you require. hope you will forward a new Certificate and send it to me. Should it not be consistent with your feelings pray send or a copy of every thing you do recd. to me and make Oblige you most Obedt & humble Servt Cyrus Heurt

Lyons 26 June 1824
Dear Sir
I have for four years had the drawing of Jacob Rottenhams Pension and on the fourth of March last I sent the papers as usual and was informed that it was necessary for him to send his old Certificate to the Secretary of War and obtain a new one he then told me that his old one was at the Loan office in New York that was said to be the Custom at that time Say thirty odd years since, he then gave me an order for the old Certificate I sent it to my agent in New York which is Mr Jacob Lorrillards Esq. the President of the Mechanics Bank in the City of NY and the enclosed letter is the answer he sent me which you can Read
I have been acquainted with Mr Rottenham for some years before I drew his pension and am perfectly satisfied that there is no fraud in this the the amount that he has drawn for some years has been eight dollars per Month in consequence of an act of Congress as you will under stand hope you will be able to send him a new Certificate as he is nearly in consequence of his wounds in his hip I am very Respectfully your Obedt Servt Cyrus Hertz

We the subscribers Abraham Ten Broeck and Peter Gansevoort Junr. Do certify that upon an examination in pursuance of the Law, entitled an act making provision for Officers, Soldiers and Seamen, who have been disabled in the service of the United States" passed 22 d of April 1786. We do find that Jacob Rottenhour residing in the State of New York aged twenty eight years, late a private in Capt. Lyb's Comp y in the Regiment of Militia Commanded by Colo: Glynne and claiming relief under the act of Congress recited in the said law as an Invalid in fact; and that he became disabled in the service of the United States in consequence of a wound in his hip in an action with the enemy in 1781. and do further certify, that upon the principle s of the said act of Congress the said Jacob Rottenhour is entitled to the pay of five Dollars per month. Given under our hands in the City of Albany on the fourteenth day of Septem r : in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty six
Abm Ten Broeck Peter Gansevoort Junr.
I certify the foregoing certificate to be a true copy of the Original as recorded in the State Auditor's Office
Peter Curtenius Clerk
State of New York County of Warren ss; Jacob Rottenhour of the Town of Lyons in the County and State aforesaid maketh Oath and saith that he procured a Certificate from Abraham Ten Broeck and Peter Gansevoort of which the foregoing is a copy as he doth verily believe that very

Shortly after he procured the said Certificate, he sent the same, with the necessary papers, to the Loan Office in the City of New York, to draw his pension and did draw and receive his money and that the said Original Certificate was then deposited in the said Loan Office - that some time thereafter he sent to the said Loan Office and procured therefrom a Certified Copy of the said Original Certificate of the said Abraham Ten Broeck & Peter Gausevoort, of which said Certified Copy, the foregoing is a copy - that since the said original Certificate was deposited in the Loan Office aforesaid he has regularly drawn his pension money down to the month of September A.D. 1823 by sending to the Loan Office a Certified Copy of the said Certificate - that he has never called at the said Loan Office for the said Original Certificate, nor has he ever given an order, or any authority to person to receive the same from said Loan Office, until within about one month past, he was informed by the person whom he employed to draw his pension money, that it was necessary for him to send the said original Certificate to the Secretary of War and to procure a new Certificate, upon which he sent an order to the Loan Office at New York where the same had been deposited, to have the original forwarded to him this deponent. and this deponent has just received information, that after the lapse of as many as has passed since it was deposited in the said Loan Office, it will be next to an impossibility to find it - and that upon a Certificate containing the

facts above stated by him this deponent and sworn to by him and witnessed, being sent to the Secre- tary of War, he would be  new doubtless issue a Certificate in the same manner as if the original was sent to him, and further this deponent saith not
Witness present William Sisson Cyrus H. Hox
Jacob his X Rottenhour mark
State of New York Wayne County ss; I William Sisson a justice of the peace in and for the said County do hereby certify that Jacob Rottenhour above named whom I know, appeared personally before me and made Oath that the facts set forth in the foregoing deposition by him subscribed were true. this 25 th day of June A.D. 1824
William Sisson J. P.
The Secretary at War, is requested to issue a New Certificate and forward the same to Cyrus Hox, of Lyons, Wayne County, State of New York
Lyons June 25. 1824
And Oblige his Jacob X Rottenhour mark
Witness William Sisson B

Rev.-1 C.B.H.
Randolph Lodge
Ellsworth Maine.
Aug. 31, 1916.
Mr. G. M. Saltzgaber, Commissioner -
My dear Sir -
I should like to get some trace of the Rev. Services of one Jacob Rottenower (Sometimes spelled Rotneour) who was receiving a pension from the Government at the time of his death. He probably was a citizen of New York State as his children were born there. Beyond this I have

no information concerning him and am most- anxious to get documentary proof of his services.
Respectfully Yours.
Lucia R. Fellows.