Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 5,690, for Henry Redman, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Redman, Henry Irena
W. 5690 B.L.Wt. 34530-160-55
CONTENTS

1541 Rich. Virginia Irena Newman widow of Henry Newman Va who served in the Revolutionary war, as a Fifer
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 88 Dollars
Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1848.
Certificate of Pension issued the 26 day of August 1848 and sent to Claimant Liberty, Va
Recorded on Roll of Pensioners under February 2, 1848, Page 181 V
Reported
195732

State of Virginia, Bedford County S. S.
On this 16 day of January 1842, before me a Justice Wm. A. Heart a Justice of the peace, in and for said County, personally appeared Mrs. Irene Redman Aged 69. a Respectable Widow of said County - who being first duly sworn according to law, with an her oath, make the following decla- -ration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the Act of Congress, passed July 7, 1838, entitled, "An Act, granting half pay and pensions for certain widows:" That she is the widow of Henry Redman dec d of said County - who was a Fifer in the Revolutionary war, in the 8 th and 4 th Reg t s - that he enlisted in Jan y . 1777, as declarant understood, under Capt d Mathias Wite, in Frederick County Va and was at the Battles of Brandy wine, and G. Town - and that his Father, and two Brothers - W m and John was with him at the same time. That they all returned home on furlough - and all returned again into service except his Father who hired a substitute in his place - that after Henry Redman, and his brother returned into service - they were marched to the South and was at the Surrender of Charles Town South Carolina, (to the British) in 1780. and was there taken prisoner, and carried to Halifax in Nova Scotia - and was detained as a prisoner to the end of the Rev o s war - that while in Halifax - her hus- -band Henry Redman, lived with Doct. Wally- -buston, and Gov r Farnel - as a laborer and waitman. That she has frequently heard her husb- -and the aforesaid Henry Redman, say that he was entitled to land for his services - but having been taken prisoner - at the close of the war, he never

could obtain a regular discharge - so as to enable him to get it. And declarant further declares that she was married to the said Henry Redman (a Fifer in the Rev d war) in September 1790 - in the County of Frederick, by the Rev d W m Pryland of the Baptist Church; and that her husband the aforesaid Henry Redman died in January 1816. That she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service, but the marriage took place previous to the first day of January 1794. By, at the time and place above stated, as will more fully appear by the proof annexed - that her maiden name was Goode, the daughter of W m Goode and married as above - but have no Family Register - that in 1794 declarant and her husband moved to Gloucester County, from thence to Amherst, and from thence to said County of Bedford about 40 years ago - and that she has remained unmarried ever since the death of her husband as aforesaid to the present time. declarant lost 3 of her oldest children - and that her oldest living son George is living in the West her witness Irena J Redman mark
Richard Tinsley
Sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written -
Before me - Wm. O'Neal J.P.
State of Virginia, Bedford County S. S. I Wm. O'Neal a Justice of the peace in and for said county do hereby certify that M c Irena Redman who has this day sworn to and subscribed the foregoing declaration before me - by her mark - is the widow of Henry Redman dec d of said county - who was by reputation, a Fifer in the Revolutionary war - and

died in said County on the ~ day of ~ previous to 1827- leaving his present widow Isabella Redman ~ who has remained a widow ever since the death of her husband, the aforesaid Henry Redman, to the present time - That she is the Identical person who is now claiming as his widow - and it would be at- tended with great inconvenience for a person of her delicate health and extreme age to attend Court at this inclement Season of the Year. Given under my hand this 6 day of January 1842.
Wm. A. Hunt J.P.

State of Virginia
Bedford County S.S.
on this 6 day of January 1842, before me William
O. H. Hunt a justice of the peace in and for said County, personally appeared John Deter, a respectable resident of said County, who first being duly sworn acc- -ording to law, doth on his oath say - That he is 73- years old - that he became acquainted with Henry Redman (who was by reputation a fifer in the Revo- -lutionary war) when he first moved into said County of Bed- -ford - which deponent thinks must have been about 40 years ago. That he has frequently heard the said Redman speak of his having en- -listed as a Fifer in the Revolutionary war. That he heard Redman say, that he was the Battle of Brandy wine, and German Town - and that he was taken prisoner at Charleston S.C. in 1780 - and was carried to Halifax Nova Scotia and detained as a prisoner to the end of the Revo- -lutionary war. That the said Henry Redman told deponent that had it not been, that he was detained as a pris- -oner - he would have been enabled to get his discharge which would have entitled him to a tract of land. Deponent understood from said Red- -man and his present widow Irene that they were married in Fred o Co. Va. That the said Redman died in Jan y 1816 - leaving his present widow Irene Redman - who has remained unmarried ever since the death of her husband as aforesaid to the present time - and who is the identical person who is now claiming a pension as his widow. witness
John his X Deter mark
Rufus Tinsley
Sworn to, and subscribed, on the day and year above written -
Before me William O'Hart J.P.

195.732. Oct. Mar. 3/5
July. 30/11
Frena. Redman widow of Henry. Redman Hifer
Nad
Rev. War Receives. Pension $88.00 per. annum.
Va Feb 48-154
Ad: 160000 July 9/56
Bluffton
Gray. L. Pate Liberty
Vol R-39

195.782
Irena Redman
carried by Gray Fox Liberty 7/20

State of Virginia County of Bedford. On this day of A.D. One thousand eight hundred fifty five personally appeared before me a sister of the peace within for the County of Bedford aforesaid Irena Redman a right lady a resident of Bedford County Virginia, who being duly sworn accor- -ding to law, declares that she is the widow of Henry Redman deceased who was a soldier in the Revolutionary war.
She further states that she was married to the said Henry Redman in the County of Bedford of Virginia on the day of A.D. 1811 a legally authorized minister of the Gospel, that her name before her said marriage was Irena Goode, that her said husband died at Bedford County Virginia on the day of 1811 and that she is now a widow. that her name is now inscribed on the pension list in the "Department" of the Interior at Eighty eight dollars per annum She further declares that she has not heretofore made application for bounty land under this or any other act of Congress. She makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining the bounty land to which she may be entitled under the act approved March 3 rd . 1855.
Irena Redman
and We the undersigned residents of Bedford County in the State of Virginia upon our oaths declare that the foregoing decla- -ration was signed and acknowledged by Irena Redman in our presence that we believe

from the appearance of the applicant & her statements that she is the identical person she represents herself to be.
James S. [?]
Robert E. [?]
The foregoing declaration affidavit was sworn to & subscribed before me on the day & year above written, & I certify that I know the affiants to be credible persons & that the claimant is the person she represents herself to be, & that I have no interest in this claim.
Essex Co. D.R.
State of Virginia } County of Bedford } ss
I, Helen A. Arthur clerk of the County Court in the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that Jesse Yates is and was at the time of signing the above certificate an acting Justice of the peace in and for the said County of Bedford duly commissioned & qualified as such and that the signature purporting to be his, is his genuine signature, and that I have no interest in this claim of Irene Redman for county land.
Given under my hand & the seal of said Court this 21 st July One thousand eight hundred & fifty five.
H. A. Arthur clerk

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Single
Robert H Gray Lynchburg Virginia

State of Ohio
Ross County ss) Be it known That before me Peter Patterson a justice of the Peace In and for said County, personally appeared Isaac Redman of large age, and a man of veracity, who being duly sworn deposeth and saith, that sometime in the spring of the year 1777 his brother Henry Redman enlisted in the Revolutionary Army, for the term of three years, or during the war, and from Frederick County, in the state of Virginia, from which place he went into the Army, to the north, and returned home the next fall on furlough, and again joined the army in the spring of the year 1778; and did not return home again till after the battle, where Charlestown (South Carolina) was taken, at which time he was taken prisoner by the British, and sent to Halifax (Nova Scotia) where he remained a prisoner till the close of the war - when he was liberated and came home to Frederick County Virginia - After which, in the fall of the year 1790 he was married to Arrena Good, who is now his Widow, and further this deponent saith not
The word "not" was interlined in the 9 th line of the above before signing Sworn to & subscribed this 28 th day of March 1842 - Before me Isaac Redman Peter Patterson J. Peace.
The State of Ohio Ross County ss
I Humphrey, Fullerton Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the County aforesaid do certify, that Peter Patterson Esquire is and was at the time of taking the above affidavit an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid duly commissioned & sworn as such and that his signature above written is genuine
Given under my hand & seal of office this 21 st day of March A.D. 1842
Humphrey, Fullerton Clerk

Spots March 31 1847.
Enclosed I send you the papers in Mrs. Frena Redman's case legally prepared - which entitles her to the pay of a piper (as a pensioner) for 5 years, for more than 3 years service. You will perceive that from distance and ignorance of the Magistrate and Clerk of Ross Co. Ohio. I have been delayed in having this case prepared according to the Rules in order that it might be allowed without delay.
Mrs. Frena Redman being too young to know anything of her husband's services herself - referred me to Isaac and Jas. Redman of Ohio (if living) to prove her marriage, and the services of her husband. Henry Redman - or to so far as on the track, that I could prove his services by the Records. I wrote to Isaac Redman, and no. in reply his letter (enclosed) dated the 15th day of May 1841. I immediately wrote to the 3rd Auditor and no. his letter (enclosed) dated 12th Novr 1841. I then wrote to Mr. Gilman Read in Winchester, and no. his letter (enclosed) dated July 1 1841 - from which you will discover that there is no return of the marriage, or Bond to be obtained in Fredk. Co. my main reliance then being on Isaac and Jas. Redman of Ohio, I wrote to Isaac Redman, and through him to Jas. Redman, and no. their Affidavits dated the 20th day of Decr. 1841. and the 11th day of Janr. 1842: both of which being insufficient, and knowing your particularity, I wrote back to Isaac and Jas. Redman to have their Aff ts drawn over - and guard against interlineations 8 th and be sure that the clerk certified to the genuineness of the signature of Adair Magistrate. I have not yet no. a reply from Jas. Redman; but should I receive an additional Aff t from him I will send it on; in the evidence enclosed however I think fully sufficient to substantiate his claim. For proof of service I refer you to the letter of the 3rd Auditor. For proof of marriage I refer you to the letter and Aff t of Isaac Redman, and the Aff t of Jas. Redman. And for the proof of the Identity of Henry Redman who was a piper in the Rev d War being the same man that married Frena Good in Fredk Co Va I refer also to the Aff t of Isaac Redman - and to the Aff ts of Col. David Saunders Secy. of the peace in Bedford Co. and Col. David Armstrong and Mr. Reuben Parker Port Master in Spots - and Capt. Wm. Deter. These Aff ts too corr.

borates Isaac Redmans evidence in regard to the time of Marri- age. That Mr Redmans oldest son George that is now living is about 45 or 46 years old - and having lost 3 of our oldest chil- dren - allowing 2 years between each the oldest to be born 1 year after marriage, added to 45 will make them to have been married about 52 years ago. In regard to the main fact: the time of marriage, you will see, that Isaac Redman has con- fined himself to the same date, 1790 in his letter to me and in his 2 Affidavits - but inasmuch as his knowledge of their priginations after marriage was only historical, with him in his last Aff? he has omitted to say any thing of their removal to Gloucester, hence to Amherst, and to Bradford. But I trust, considering the difficulties I have had to labour under, you will see, and admit, that the proof of Service and Marriage is satisfactorily established according to the Rules. I also refer you to the last letter of the 3 rd Audt which confirms the evidence of Isaac Redman that Mrs Redman, and Mr Redman were in the Service with Henry Redman a gifer - the claimants husband. The reason why Isaac Redman said nothing of Mrs and Mr Redmans returning from Halifax Nova Scotia - is, that they never did return, but remained in Halifax. Henry Redman may have been separated from Mr and Mrs during the Service, you will examine the rolls, so as to satisfy yourself as to his Identity. Presuming that the dep t is not much burdened at this time, you will please issue Mr Redmans Certificate of pension as soon as possible - as she is very needy.
Respectfully yours -
Rs. W Gray Agent

-8232 Irene Redman
let to R. H. Gray Esq April 6. 1842 Same April 14 th 1842 Same April 25 th 1842 Double Mrs. Goggin H. Reps April 25 th 1842 to R. H. Gray, May 12. 1842
Act 7. July '38
✓ $4.530
✓ The same

Apr 18 punch HN Brackett C5.
Rev WIDOW, &c.
1896 Will Mrs.
File No. 5690 Irena Redman Wid. Henry Redman Herf's Rev. War Act: Feb. 28/18 Index:—Vol. 16 , Page 154
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Virginia I Thomas Allen Fiddall, Clerk of the County Court of Frederick, do hereby certify that I have carefully examined the returns of marriages registered in my Office from the year 1782 the commencement of the register, to the year 1795 and do not find any return of the marriage of Henry Redman and Anna Goode.
In Testimony whereof I herunto subscribe my name and affix my Seal of Office this 26 th day of April 1842 and in the 66 th Year of the Common wealth
T. A. Fiddall

4011 Virginia Richmond. Irena Redman widow of Henry Redman who was a Fifer in the Virginia line
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 88 Dollars — Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1843.
Certificate of Pension issued the 26 th day of December 1843 and sent to
R. H. Gray Lynchburg Virginia
[Act of March 3, 1843.]
Recorded in Book A. Vol. 1 Page 152.

Reported
Virginia 6924.
Widow of Henry Redman ,
Henry Redman , who was a pensioner under the Act of and who died on the Jan'y 1816 of Bedford Co. in the State of Virginia who was a Pvt. in the Company commanded by Captain Gregham of the Reg't commanded by _____ in the Virginia line for 2 years
Inscribed on the Roll of Reserved at the rate of 88 Dollars Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1836.
Certificate of Pension issued the 28. day of Oct. 1822, and sent to Henry W. S. Goggins H. Reps
Arrears to the 4th of March 1836 Semi-annual allowance ending
11.10
[Act July 7, 1838.]
Recorded by Thos. L. Clancy Clerk, Book A Vol. 2 Page 132

Haver Reps Dec 16. 1842
Dear Sir,
The case of Old Mrs. Sarah Redman of Bradford County Pa. I am well aware has given you a good deal of trouble and the character of the correspondence has been such as to make you very unwilling I am sure to refer to the case again - but I do hope the impudence of agents will not affect the rights of a poor woman as I am sure, with you, it will not. I therefore once more with the highest respect beg leave again to call your attention to her application which is now on file at the request of the old lady herself who when I left home urged upon me in person to do all I thought proper to procure a decision in her favor - She is perhaps one of the very poorest women in my District and procures a scanty subsistence by Ricing - She is however quite respectable - By a letter of April 6. 1842 to her agent at that time R. H. Gray which letter she has

placed in my hands, it appears that the claim was " satisfactory with the exception of the date of the marriage" - I think if you will refer to the affidavit of Isaac Redman you will be satisfied that the time is clearly fixed in the fall of 1790 - He was present at the marriage at the party was his brother
There is no record proof of the marriage and none was likely to be kept by parties so illiterate as were the whole family of Redmans
I am now near 36 years of age and will remember when a small boy often to have heard of " Old Redman and the fife " and feel assured from conversations with many older than myself that the old lady was always regarded as the wife of the fifer and that she and he lived together as such - I have no doubt they were married and she appears to be very old - old enough to have been married at least as far back as 1790

I feel in this case an interest that I have rarely in such applications from a long acquaintance with the old woman, and hope you will be disposed to consider it more favorably
I am very Respectfully your obed. servant
M. L. Goggins
J. L. Edwards Esq

Direct certificate to me in Synchburg To-Whom

Treasury Department Third Auditor's Office 18 March '82
Sir
I have received your letter of 10 th inst. making inquiry as to the services of W m Redman, Jr. Redman & Henry Redman soldiers of the Revy. Mar. Presuming the information is asked in behalf of the legal representatives of the soldiers, in regard to pensions I have caused an examination to be made with much labour & time, of the Rolls left in this office, saved from the loss of Revy. Records, and find the following results. William Redman a private is on the Rolls from 27 Jany. 1778 to November 1779 -
John Redman, as Drummer same -
Henry Redman, as fifer from the 25 Jany. 1777 to November 1779
The Roll for Nov. 1779 being taken on the 10 th of that date - after which neither of the names can be found.
Respectfully
yr. ob t ser t
Peter H. Hays Secy
Bro. M. Gray Esq. Lynchburg, U s

Sir
Ho Reps. April 22, 1892
I send you an affidavit to be used in the application of Mrs Esther Redman of Ba for a Pension.
I am now acquainted myself with Mrs. Redman who is very poor and a resident of the County in which I reside - she is very respectable and is quite an old lady - I remember when a boy to have had a great deal of talk about " Old Redman the Fifer " - (her husband) - he was stationed I think at a recruiting station, during the last war in my neighborhood. He has been dead many years - I should be much gratified indeed if the old woman's examination should be found to be entitled to a pension - and I earnestly request that you will examine into the application -

I will thank you to re-examine the case of Mrs Susan Ogleby of Brigid Va. whose claims as I have, have been rejected on the grounds of the relationship of the Witrups — The facts which I suppose are mistaken in some way by the parties (my informants)
I am very Respectfully J. L. Edwards Esq.                      W. L. Goggins

ap 4 1842
no 8232
va
July 7. 1838 Irene Redman
James L Eduardo Esq Comm. of Pensions Washington City
FREE

Free
May 11. 1842
FREE
J. L. Edwards Esq
Cam of Puerions Washington City.
via

Synch 3 May 5 1842
V.-
Enclosed I send you the Certificate of Mr. Thos. A. Tidball clerk of the county court of Fred 1 showing, that diligent search has been made and that there is no return of the marriage of Henry Redman, and Irena Grode - now his present widow. By this compliance, with the demand made by you in the letter before the last - I have brought the claimant fully within the rules established by you; that is, to shew offici- ally, that there is no record evidence of the Marriage, before oral testimony can be allowed, in proof of the marriage of the parties. In your letter making this requisition on us, I understood also prop thereby, and the tenor of your letter; that you had receded from the ground assumed by you, that the witnesses tho, present and saw Henry Redman and his present widow married with their own eyes, yet, because they had not given written data, by which their memory had been governed - their Testimony was therefore rejected. I say, I considered this ground receded from - and correctly too, as I consider it entirely untenable. But I have before me Mr. Goggins letter stating, that you now take the ground, that Affidavits of Redmans age must shew what particular circumstance imp g on their minds, the particular event ; that is the marriage. If in this is your language or its substance: I think I can shew, by your refer- ing to the Aff 1 of Isaac Redman - that this requisition, has off yours been complied with on our part; For in addition to stating the fact, that they were at the wedding - and I am the parties one of them stood up before the parson - Isaac Redman was recollected the name

Synch s May 5 1842
Sir, Enclosed I send you the Certificate of Mr. Thos. A. Tidball Clerk of the County Court of Fred ts showing, that diligent search has been made and that there is no return of the marriage of Henry Redman, and Irene Grode - now his present widow. By this compliance, with the demand made by you in the letter before the last - I have brought the claimant fully within the Rules established by you; that is, to show offici- ally, that there is no record evidence of the Marriage, before oral testimony can be allowed, in proof of the marriage of the parties. In your letter making this requisition on us, I understood thereby, also from and the tenor of your letter; that you had receded from the ground assumed by you, that the witnesses tho', present and saw Henry Redman and his present widow married with their own eyes, yet, because they had not given written data, by which their memory had been governed - their Testimony was therefor rejected. I say, I considered this ground receded from - and correctly too, as I consider it entirely untenable. But I have before me Mr. Goggins letter stating, that you now take the ground, that Affidavits of Redmans age must show what particular circumstance in proprio on their minds, the particular event; that is the marriage. As In this is your language or its substance: I think I can show, by your referring to the Aff ts of Isaac Redman - that this requisition, on your part has been complied with on our part; For in addition to stating the fact, that they were at the wedding - and some of the parties one of them stand up before the parson - Isaac Redman even recollected the name

of the minister - Mr Prylane - who married them - even better than Mrs Redman herself did - who thought his name was Rylane . Now Sir when a man after the lapse of 52 years can recollect the name of the minister who married his brother - and that two without any suggestion of his name; surely he can retain the year in his mind, that major  the event took place, as that of a wedding, at which he was present, and saw take place. Isaac Redman also stated, that in the year 1794, his brother Henry and Family removed to Gloucester, from thence to Amherst &c. showing conclusively, the distinctness of his memory - in going into particulars, both in regard to his services as well as marriage. The letter of his which is filed, not only corroborates his age - but shows conclusively the clearness and strength of his memory; for not a solitary soul near any thing of Henry Redm- ans services - even - until Isaac Redman gave a history of it in his letter. And as to the time of marriage - not being proven by data or circumstances ; I will say - Data , is rec'd proof itself, which we can not give - but circumstances has been given - and that very strong too. But to say that he knew a certain event took place in 1792 because another event took place in that year also - would not prove that his memory was correct - any more than if he had named the single event by itself! And you might still say what data have you to go by. in regard to either or both. In conclusion, all that I can say is, that we have established the claim of Mrs Redman to a pension - as strong as any in your office - both according to law, and the rules under the law - and as such claim be Certificate at your hands, to the amt. of 5 years pay of a Fifer in the Rev. war - you may assume the power to withhold the certificate

from feelings of prejudice, or resentment towards me - because perhaps, I have criticised your deci- -sions, but you have no right, either under the law or the rules to reject the claim of Mr Redman to a pension, it being clearly establi- -shed by both. The Aff ts of Col. Saunders and others in regard to Geo. Redmans Age - and the bps of the 3 oldest children - strongly corroborates the Aff ts of Isaac and Jas. Redman - that Mr Redman was married about 52 years ago or in the year 1790. We have been toiling for near two years to get all the evidence together in this case - and because of the low state of the Treasury - as I am in charity bound to believe - to have the claim of this very needy old man rejected - would be most cruel and unkind treatment towards him. Please communicate as soon as pos- -sible - to me - the result - and if still not satisfactory specify as distinctly as possible what further proof will satisfy you.
Yours respectfully D. H. Gray

Lynchburg April 18 1842
Sir,
Yours of the 14 th is at hand. I am sorry to find you so sensitive - complaining of disrespectful language - which was not intended on my part - but owing to the peculiarity of my arguments were constrained by you. I acknowledge your right to require evidence as to particular points of controversy - provided you confine yourself to the rules furnished us on the subject - concerning the proof of service marriage &c: but in my opinion, when you lay additional restrictions - they should be added to the rules - printed - and each known agent, sent a copy.
I think if you will again refer to the inquis declaration, and the letter of Mr. Tilden & Reid of Winchester D a - (who signs his name Tilden , only - you will find that there is no Family Register of Marriage, or return of the marriage to Fred l o bo clerk's office - nor marriage bond to be found - which I think is complying with the former requisitions on this branch of the subject - And as regards the Family Register - it is very evident that there was none, for Henry Newman was an unlettered man, his widow as you see had to make her mark - Is a Newman is also, and Isaac, can barely write his name, intelligibly now, was it an uncommon thing during and after the close of the Rev l - that the poorer classes could not write - and consequently entrusted not to have a marriage registry in the Family - and in such cases the memory has to be relied on - and is stronger, and more certain than those who depend on records. I have

2 nd a Second Aff t from Jas. Redman of Pick- away County Ohio - which fully confirms the Aff t of Isaac Redman in regard to the date of the marriage: which will be handed you by the Hon. Wm. L. Gogges of the V a . Bedford Cong. district - with perhaps the Certif- icate of the Hon. Col. Wm. Allan Senator from Ohio - in regard to the genuineness of the and marriage Clerk's Certificate, &c -
If you are still not satisfied - I am very certain, that it will be entirely useless for the future to attempt to establish another original pension case - for the widow - that is where the service and marriage both have to be proven. I will write to the clerk of Fred t and obtain his certificate to the fact that no return of marriage has been made to that office: nor is the reverse so universally the case as you supposed (stated) in your letter - as of marriage many cases either from the delinquency of the Minister or bad management in the Clerk's office - do not not appear on record at all.
Yours Respectfully
No. H. Gray
13. In regard to your refusal to permit any exam- ination of the records - for the purpose of ascer- taining the extent of the regular services of the soldier - until after the widow has made her declaration - is oppressive in the extreme - and is a virtual fulfillment of the complaint I made through Capt. Cole - and which the literal reading of your letter leads to: and which is in direct conflict with the 3 rd Section of Rules under the Act of July 1838 - which says, that where record evidence of service is obtained the widow need not go into a recapitulation of it in her dec- laration!! Now Sir, does not this clearly infer, that

In regard to Joshua Wade's services - you will see - inasmuch as Wade went into service from Bedford - and was married in Bedford, and died in Bedford (his widow not being acquainted with him long before she married him, consequently could know nothing of his Rev. services) that Bedford is the proper place to obtain proof of both - and in her stead, at her request, will endeavor to do so - and do here make her declaration - that Joshua Wade enlisted in 1776 or 77 under Capt. Geo. Samson or Capt. Scraggs
Apr 22 1842
Jan 5
Mrs Redman's Care I hope useful to furnish evidence of Rev. Service
John Wade
John Wade
John Wade
John Wade
and served one, if not 2 years in the Reg. Line, was at the Battle of G. Town &c. was at the Battle of Guilford in March 1781. under Capt. M c Don - and also under Capt. - at the capture of Lord Cornwallis in Oct. 1781. This I think is sufficient. Please direct to send an extract of Joshua Wade's services, his name will be found on the roll with Isaac, and Jacob Wade and John Wade. No. H. Gray

3 rd that the widow should have access to the records, in order to ascertain the extent of the legal evidence of her husband - before she makes her declaration: and which privilege has heretofore been allowed without exception - no doubt in conformity with this rule - until the present case.
In order to show you the injustice, and oppression of this new exaction - I have only to remind, and inform you of the fact - that in at least \frac{1}{2} or \frac{3}{4} of the pensions granted to widows - they know nothing personally of their husbands services - and have to depend on their neighbours, and what they recollect of their husbands narrations of it. Add to this the mutilated and imperfect condition of the Army rolls of the regular line of the boat line - as I am informed by the 3 rd Ad t : you will at once see how much unnecessary labour and expense would be saved to the Govt t officers, and parties, provided a search for the record evidence of service would be allowed to claimants, in the incipient stage of investigation; for should you require the widow to make an un on oath or declaration as to services - from marriage to death obtain certificate of Court - and other forms and essentials complied with - and then an examination of records - from above causes - no service is proven - the pension fails - tho, it is notorious to all her friends, that he understood the service set forth in the declaration. Whereas, were the examination to be made before any further steps are taken - and there should be no evidence of legal service as claimed - for him the investigation would cease - and both the Govt t and the widow saved labour and expense on the one hand, and anxiety of mind and disappointment on the other. I am in hopes this last exaction will be relaxed on your part - and the usual facilities granted to claimants. yours &c. Thos. H. Gray

no 8232. Irene Redman wid of Henry p.a.
act 7. July 38 2 yrs fiber adm 2 yrs fiber 88
Hon W.L. Goggin
act 7 th July '38

State of Virginia Bedford County S.S.
I David Saunders - Senior Justice of the peace in and for said County - do hereby certify, that I became acquainted with Henry Redman dec d of said County - (who was a fifer in my Reg t in the Reg t [91 st ] that I commanded - as Col - in said County during the late war against G. Potts (and who was also a fifer by reputation in the Revolutionary war) in or about the year 1862 - about which time he moved to said County.
That deponent has frequently heard the said Henry Redman dec d say that he enlisted as Fifer in the County of Frederick during the Revolutionary war - and that he heard the said Henry Redman also say that he belonged to the 4 th and 8 th Regts. of the Virginia Continental line, as fifer - and that Capt. the latter Webb and Capt. Wm. Brogham also belonged to the Pongade the latter as Pongade Inspector (in 1778) which Pongade composed 4 th , 8 th and 12 th Regts. and perhaps others - and that the said Redman told dep. (who was also in Rev. War) that he was taken prisoner - and carried to Halifax Nova-Scotia. That deponent also recollects that the said Redman and his present widow Irene Redman had 2 or 3 children when they moved to said County - the eldest of which was named George Washington Redman - and who was about 5 or 6 years old at the time (about 1802) they moved to said County - and who if now living - would be about 45 or 46 years old. That the said Redman died in said County about the year 1815 or 16 - leaving his present widow - Irene Redman - who has been and remains so ever since to the present time given under my hand this 25 th Jan y 1842 - David Saunders.
The latter, interlined before signed -
Sam l P. Mitchell J.P.
Sworn to and subscribed before me on the day and year above written - The 25 th January - 1842 -
Before me
Sam l P. Mitchell J.P.

18 th
Robt. H. Gray Esq. Lynchburg Campbell Co Va

Winchester July 1 st 1841 To Rob t H Gray Esq r
Dear Friend your letter wishing information about the marriage of Henry Redman to Maria Good was duly received I was at the clerk's office of both Town & County but no Record or bond of their marriage can be found. Then is I am told a family of Goods in the upper part of this city. when an opportunity offers I will enquire of them and if any information can be had I will let you know. Think it a slim chance however. please Remember me to all Friends, Louisa wishes to be remembered to Mr. Gray & Family My Respect also. to them & to Bro. Holmes, Hawkins Thompson's, Hall. Pierce & all Enquiry Friends. please say to Doc S. H. Read that all here are well & anxious to hear from him. I would like to have been at your celebration 24 th . My \hearts was with you I expected to have been in Lynchburg by this time but circumstances have been such I could not conveniently be there well this is an uncertain life at best our expectations often frustrated so far we may all reach a better country by & by Do not forget your Friend Alden

Treasury Department Third Auditor's Office Bloom
R. H. Gray Esq. Lynchburg Virginia

Treasury Department 3 d Auditor's Office 12 th June 1841
Sir -
I have received your letter of the 7 th inst t suggesting that, after Henry Redman (fifer) had been recruited by Cap t Matthias Hite, he might have been transferred to some other company of the 8 th Virginia Regiment - and asking that a general examination of the Rolls of that Regiment might be made for evidence of said Redman's services -
In reply I have to state that such an examination has been made, and it appears from the Rolls of Cap t Jonathan Clark's company of the 8 th Virginia Regiment, that Henry Redman, (fifer) enlisted on the 25 th of January 1777 for the War, and his name is borne on the rolls of said Clark's company up to May 1778 - and from that time to August 1778 it appears on the rolls of Cap t Wm. Croghan's company of said Regiment - It appearing from an indorsement on the rolls of Cap t Croghan's company, that his company was transferred to the 4 th Virginia Regiment, the Rolls of that Regiment have been examined, and it is found that the name of said Redman is borne on the Rolls of Cap t Leonard Cooper's company of that Regiment, up to November 1777, beyond which there are no rolls of the Regiment on file in this Office -
I have referred your letter to Mr. Gordon of the County Land Office -
I am Very Respectfully
Your most obedt. Servt.
Richd Haggard Aud
No. H. Gray Esq. Lynchburg - Virg a

Robert H Gray Lynchburg Va
1831

Philada May 13 th 1847
Dear Sir
I received your letter of the 17 April in which you requested me to inform you all that I know in regard to my Bro services in the revolutionary war he enlisted in the winter of 1777 under capt Mathias Dote in the capacity of a Frederick Co Va in the 8 th regiment of the Va regulars and marched north and was in the battle of Brandywine and Germantown he marched from thence to the south and was taken prisoner at the of Charleston 1780 and was taken from thence to Nova Scotia where he was detained a prisoner during the war at the close of the war he returned Va married Irene Good of Frederick Co Va in 1790 I know of no thing more that would be of any service
Isaac Redman
If you know of any living witnesses who can be of service in this case please inform me by letter.

State of Virginia - Bedford County S.S. on this 8th day of January 1842, before me Asa Otey a Justice of the peace in and for said County, personally appeared Reuben Parker a respectable resident of said County, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath say - That he is 55 years old - That at the age of 17 - deponent first became acquainted with Henry Redman a piper - in said County - and who was by reputation - also a piper in the Revolutionary war. That dep. thinks it must have been about 38 or 40 years ago, that the said Henry Redman moved to said County. That he the dep. has frequently heard the said Redman say that he enlisted as a piper in the Revolutionary war - and dep. knows the fact, that Redman was a piper in the last war. Deponent knew George Redman the oldest son (living) of the said Henry Redman , and his present widow Irena Redman and thinks that he was between 43 and 45 years old - but dep. understands, that they lost several of their first children - who was older than George . That the said Henry Redman died in said County about the year 1816 - leaving his present widow Irena Redman - who has remained unmarried ever since the death of her husband as of said time - and is the identical person now claiming a pension as his widow. Reuben Parker
sworn to me subscribed on the day and year above written -
Before me
A. Otey J.P.

State of Virginia Bedford County S.S. on this 6th day of January 1842, before me Arrested Atty - a Justice of the peace in and for said county - personally appeared Col. Dan t . Humphreugh a respectable resident of said county, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath say - That he is 40 years old - next April that he can recollect Henry Redman - who was by reputation a Fifer in the Revolutionary - even since deponent was 8 years old - and that the said Redman was then a fifer in the said County of Bedford. That dep t understood from Mrs. Irene Redman that she was married to the said Henry Redman in the county of Fred 1 st Va. that they resided in Gloucester Co. and perhaps several other counties before they came to Bedford - That deponent heard Mrs. Redman say that she had lost several of her oldest children. Deponent was acquainted with George Redman the oldest son who was living - and thinks that he was several years older than deponent - being as he supposes between 40 and 45 years old. That the said Henry Redman died in the year 1815 or 16 - leaving his present widow Irene Redman; who has remained unmarried even since the death of her husband as aforesaid to the present time - and is the identical person who is now claiming a pension as his widow. Dan t Humphreugh
Next April, intoned before signed - A. C. Coye J.P. sworn to and subscribed on the day and year above written - A. Coye J.P. Before me

State of Ohio Ross County —
The Deposition of Isaac Redman, of the County aforesaid taken this 20 th Day of December 1841, Before me George Miller a Justice of the peace in Ross County the said Isaac Redman being first Duly Sworn Deposeth and saith that my my father and W m Redman John Redman and Henry all enlisted in the year 1777 and then marched to the north and was in the Brandywine and Germantown Battles in the same year and in the winter they all came home on furlough 1778, and then my father hired a substitute in his place and then all three of my Brothers, was taken prisoners at Charlestown S. C, and then sent to Halifax and then remained there till the close of the war, and then Brother Henry came home and in the year 1790 married to Anna Good, near Millwood Frederick County I was at the wedding but did not see them married but was told by the company that was present they was married by James Prigland a Sinent Minister and then remained at Millwood till the year 1794,

and then removed from Millwood to Gloucester to live with Col. Nathl Burwell, as a Distiller at Kings Mills I received a letter from him in the year 1788, and living in Hampshire County, employ of Mr. Garland,
and further this Deponent saith & etc. I seal
Sworn to and subscribed by me, on this 20, Day of December 1841
George Miller J.P. -
The State of Ohio } Ross County ss }
I Humphrey Fullerton Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas for the County aforesaid do certify that George Miller Esquire before whom the foregoing deposition was taken was at the time of taking the same and now is an acting Justice of the Peace in and for the County aforesaid duly commissioned and sworn as such.
Given under my hand & seal of office this 21 st day of December A.D. 1841 - Humphrey Fullerton Clerk

Deposition of witness James Redman of the County of Pickaway State of Ohio of lawful age being first duly sworn say me as hereafter certified deposes as follows question do you no that Henry Redman was married to Diana good Answer yes I do know that she was married according to law
I Isaac George a Justice of the Peace in and for the township of Moleburg in the County of Pickaway Ohio do hereby certify that the above named James Redman was by me first duly sworn to testify the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and that the foregoing deposition by him respectively subscribed was reduced to writing by me In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand this 11 day of January 1842. James Redman his mark
Isaac George JP
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 11 day of January 1842 James Redman his mark Isaac George JP

To Mr Robert H Gray Lynchburg Virginia
Lynchburg 14
1834

State of Virginia Bedford County Set.
At a regular court held in and for said county on Monday the 24 th day of January 1842.
The declaration of Mrs. Irene Redman widow of Henry Redman deceased being read in open court in order to obtain a pension from the General Government together with the letter of the 3 rd Auditor of the General Government and the affidavit of Isaac Redman of the State of Ohio, and the affidavits of John Peter, Reuben Parker and Daniel Brumbaugh and the court having examined the same and being satisfied in their minds that the parties and evidence in the same are genuine and not fraudulent do ratify and confirm the same. And the court doth order it to be certified to the War Department that Irene Redman aforesaid named is the widow of Henry Redman deceased of said county who died in or about the year 1815 or '16 leaving his present widow Irene Redman who has remained unmarried ever since the death of her husband Henry Redman as aforesaid, to the present time that it appears to the satisfaction of the court that the aforesaid Henry Redman did enlist as a soldier in the Revolutionary War in January 1777 and served as such until May 1780, at which time he was taken prisoner at the surrender of Charleston South Carolina and detained as a prisoner in Halifax Nova Scotia until the end of the war, and that the said Henry Redman (soldier) was married to his present widow Irene Redman (whose maiden name was Good), in the year 1790 in the county of Frederick by the Rev. Mr. Dryland, and that about 40 years ago said Redman and his present widow moved

to said County of Bedford, where they continued to live together as man and wife until his death as aforesaid. And the Court doth further certify that William O. Hunt and Frederick Ammspaugh are acting Justices of the peace in and for said County duly commissioned and qualified as such according to law and that the foregoing signatures purporting to be theirs are genuine. and that John Jeter, Daniel Ammspaugh and Reuben Parker are respectable residents of said County and that their oaths are entitled to full faith and credit.
I Robert C Mitchell Clerk of the County Court of Bedford in the State of Virginia, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Mrs. Irene Redman for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court this 24 th day of January 1842.
R. C. Mitchell Clerk

4538
Irena Redman
$88 per an
R. H. Gray Lynchburg Virg a

State of Virginia
Bedford County S.S.
On this 27 th day of July 1843, before me FREDK. AUNSPAUGH a Justice of the peace in and for said County personally appeared Mrs. Irena Redman Aged 70 years - a resident of said County, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath, make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision, made by the Act of Congress, passed on the 3 rd of March 1843: granting pensions to widows of persons, who served during the Revolutionary war.
That she is the widow of Henry Redman dec d . of said County, who was a fifer in the Continental line of service, of the 4 th , and 8 th Virginia Regiments under the command at different times, of Captains Darius Gause, Wm. Groghan, and Jonathan Clarke, Company - both in the north, and south - and who died in said County on the 20 th day of January 1815 -
That the annual amount of pension which she rec d . from the Genl. Govt. - as the widow of said Henry Redman and under the Act of July 7, 1838, was $88- per An. for 5 years - to wit, from the 4 th day of March 1836, to the 4 th day of March 1841. Since she further declares, that she is still a widow.
Irena H Redman
widow of,, intulined before signed - J.T. Sworn to, and subscribed, on the day and year above written -
Before me - Fredk. Aunspaugh J.P.
In presence of - Maria T. Parker John - [illegible]
State of Virginia Bedford County S.S.
I FREDK. AUNSPAUGH a Justice of the peace in and for said County do hereby certify, that Mrs. Irena Redman, who has this day sworn to, and subscribed the foregoing declaration before me, is the widow of Henry Redman dec d . of said County - who was by reputation, a Fifer in the Rev d war - and died on or about the day of 1815; or 16 - bearing

his present widow Irona Redman above named - and who personally known to me, as the Identical person, who is a pension from the Genl. Govt. Under the Act of July 7, 1838, at $88. per M. for 5 years - to wit, from the 11 th day of March 1836, to the 4 th day of March 1841. And further, that she is still alive and a widow; and that the foregoing declara- tion was sworn to out of  out of court, before me one of the sitting Members of the Court. Given under my hand this 27 day of July 1843.
Fred. Bumpough J.P.
"out of," interlined - in open, errand -
F. bumpough 20

State of Virginia Bedford County Sct.
At a Court of Monthly Session held for said County on Monday the 25 th day of September one thousand eight hundred and forty three.
The declaration of Mrs. Irena Redman was read in Court claiming a pension from the General Government under the act of March 3 rd 1831. Together with the certificate of Frederick Ammspaugh Esq. and being satisfied that the same is genuine, do order it to be certified to the War Department that Mrs. Irena Redman, named in the aforesaid declaration is the widow of Henry Redman deceased of said County, who was a fifer in the Revolutionary war and died about the year 1815, leaving his present widow Irena Redman aforesaid, and who is the identical person that received a pension from the General Government, under the act of July 7 th 1838, at Eighty eight dollars per annum for five years, to wit: from the 4 th of March 1836 to the 4 th of March 1841, and that she is still alive and a widow, and that Frederick Ammspaugh is an acting justice of the peace, in and for said County, duly commissioned and qualified as such, and that the signatures purporting to be his, affixed to his several certificates are genuine.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said Court, this 25 th day of September one thousand eight hundred and forty three.
R. Mitchell C.B.
R. M. Gray Agent Lynchburg

LB
Robert H. Gray Esq. Lynchburg
Virginia
H. W. L. Goggin (N22)

LB—
Robert H. Gray Esq. Lynchburg.
Virginia
H. W. L. Goggin (N22)

The State of Ohio Dickaway County ss.
On this 8 th day of April in the Year 1842 before me Isaac Ruge an acting justice of the peace in and for said County. Personally appeared James Redman, a Respectable Resident of said County Who being first duly sworn according to law, took an oath. Say. that he is 74 Years old that he Recollects distinctly When his Brothers John William and Henry Redman as fife Enlisted during the Revolutionary War in the County of Frederick in the State of Virginia in January in the Year 1777. and marched to the North. And was at the Battle of Brandywine and Germantown. And that they were Returned Home on furlough. And Returned to the Army again. And Marched to the South. was in the 8 th and 11 th Regiments of the Virginia Continental line. And at one time was under Capt. Croffie was at the Surrender of Charleston South Carolina in May 1780. was taken prisoner And Carried to Halifax Nova Scotia and there obtained as prisoners until the end of the war. Nor do Recollect distinctly when Brothers John William And Henry Redman are Returned Home it being after peace was made with England. And that they were from home in the Service 5 or 6 Years in all. That after his Brother Henry Redman Who enlisted as fife. Returned Home from the Service in the Revolutionary War. He was Married to Miss Emma Boode in the County of Frederick in the State of Virginia in the Month of September in the Year 1780 by the Rev. Mr. Dryland and that the deponent was at the Wedding and saw them lawfully Married as above. That in 1794 his Brother Henry Redman and his present Widow Emma Redman Moved to Hocking County Ohio to Richwood. And from there to Bedford

Country Virginia, about 40 years ago. When his Brother Henry Redman died in or about the year 1815 or 1816. leaving his present widow, Diana Redman. whose maiden name was Boose, and who is still unmarried as I presume is informed
Witness John Corman
his James T Redman mark
Swore to and subscribed this 5 day of April in the year 1842 before me
Isaac George J. G.
of Mahlenburg Township Pickaway County Ohio
The State of Ohio
Pickaway County, ss
I, William D. Post clerk of the Court of Common Pleas
for said county hereby certify that Isaac George J. G. was on the 5 day of April A.D. 1842 known to me to be the person described in and who executed the foregoing instrument and was commissioned & qualified.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of the Court as follows said at Circleville this 8 day of April A.D. 1842
William D. Post, clerk
By George Holmes Deputy

1872 London 1872
Dear Alexander, I P

State of Virginia, Bedford County to wit:
On this 27 th day of June 1848, before me Ben t H on old a Justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid, duly authorized by law to administer oaths, personally appeared Irena Redman — a resident of said County, aged years who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by the Acts of 1842 up to the 2 nd day of February 1848, granting appropriations to the widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War.
That she is the widow of Henry Redman dec d who was a Life in the Continental line of service — Revolutionary War. and that the annual amount of pension she receives the widow of said Henry Redman, under the Act of the 17 th of June 1844, was at the rate of $88 — cents per annum and up to the 2 nd day of March 1848. She further declares that she is still a widow.
Irena hu X Redman (seal mark)
Sworn to and subscribed on the 27 th day of June aforesaid written Before me Ben t H on old JP
In presence of Gary S. Parker John C. Parker
I certify that the above named Irena Redman — is personally known to me and that she is the same in- dividual who drew a pension as stated by her in the foregoing affidavit.
Ben t H on old JP

State of Virginia Bedford County to wit.
I John R. Stephead Clerk of the County Court of said County in the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that Benjamin A. Donald is a Justice of the peace in and for the said County duly commissioned and qualified; and that he is legally authorized to act as such, and that the foregoing signature purporting to be his, are genuine.
Given under my hand and the Seal of the said Court this 9 th day of August 1849
John R. Stephead (Clerk)

Synchburg April 13 1842
Sir,
Your letter of the 6 th is at hand. And were I not convinced from the language of your objections to the proof of marriage - that you have not attentively examined the evidence - I should without just cause defer my correspondence on the subject - appeal to the Committee on pensions.
In speaking of the witness that proved the marriage, you used the words, "in your opinion of them," as to the marriage having taken place in 1790. Now there is but one witness that deposes, as to the time of marriage - and that is Isaac Redman of Ross County Ohio! In the Aff t of Isaac Redman of Pickaway County Ohio - owing no doubt to the ignorance, and stupidity of the Magistrate - who, as you will see, wrote his Aff t - not one word is said about the time of the marriage: NOT so however with Isaac Redman - for in his letter to me, and also his two Aff ts he maintained the same ground - That Henry Redman his Brother, was married to his present widow Irene Redman in the County of Fred l l in the Fall of the year of 1790 - by the Rev d Mr c Pryland!! To such evidence as this mere impression I can not consider it as punctually su staining to the fact, to wit for he says, that he was present, at the wedding - and tho', he did not see them stand before the person yet he was told, by the company present, that they were married.
But Sir, in regard to the new objections, that the witness must have written dates to govern them

in regard to dates - is so illiberal, ungenerous, and unauthorized by the rules - that I must forthwith - in behalf of claimants - protest against this further usurpation of power on your part - because not required by the rules!!
The rules require written, record-evidence of the marriage, if it can be obtained - But if not - then oral evidence, by Aff ts is allowable - but it is not required of them - that their recollection, as to the time that the marriage took place - Nor can you I believe, produce an instance in any case that I have established - where the witness has positively sworn as to the time of marriage - that you rejected their evidence for the want of written dates to govern them as to the time of marriage: For sir, should this feature in your rules be rigidly enforced - it would tend to the Aristocratic result - that the evidence of no person but the well educated, would be received - meaning as to time, or to facts: - for as in this case - the truth of the fact - will depend upon the time. That cannot be the failure of record evidence - in this case you will observe sir, that from the delinquency in the return of the marriage licence - and the universal neglect of education - in the Rev d . Era - especially on the part of the poorer class - and as  that Henry Newman for want of learning kept no family record of marriage - as you will see from the widows declaration - it could hardly be supposed that so illiterate a person as Isaac Newman - who as you will observe can barely write his own name - retained any written data of the marriage of his Bro. Henry.
But Sir, altho' we claim the right to protest against this arbitrary exaction - yet we think, that if you will examine the evidence again, that you will see, that we have given you written, corroborative, data evidence, that is,

Stronger, and should be more satisfactory to you, than, if Isaac Redman himself had have sworn to data, to govern his memory - for the data itself, might have depended on memory. I allude to the Certificate of Col. David Saunders, Dan. En., Annapolis 82 d who swear as to the age of Geo. Redman their fourth son - making him about 45 or 46 years old - to which add 6 years for the 3 (lost) older children - and 1 year for the first - after marriage making it correspond precisely with the widow's declaration, and the Aff y of Isaac Redman - that she the Claimant. Irene Redman, was married about 52 years ago to Henry Redman, or in the fall of the year 1790 - or Sept. 1790 - Again Col. Saunders says that Redman moved to Bedford about the 1800 or 1802 - and that Geo. Red. their fourth son was a stout boy 82 d say 6 years old. But Sir, as regards the memory of man - I have some more practical evidence on the subject, than you have - and I do know it to be a fact, from my own memory of that an illiterate - or rather an unlettered man, is frequently more to be depended on in regard to dates, than that of the well educated - especially in regard to Mar- -riages, deaths, births &c - for whereas they have to depend alone on their memory - which from its frequent exercise is strengthened by time - while the well educated - like the Merchant - de- -pends alone on his record - and should that fail to have preserved the event - the time - his memory in the matter, is not worth a great: for inasmuch, as he depends alone on his book, his memory is not charged at all with it. I am in hopes Sir, that upon a review of this Case

you will admit that it is clearly and strongly established. And Sir you should make a reasonable allowance in this case - on account of the scribes! who have been employed to draw up the Aff ts of Isaac, and J. at Radman - as I have no doubt, but that both of them could have been made full, and satisfactory if the necessary facts, and data had been suggested to them. In conclusion, I will say, that I am in closer touch than I am mistaken, in supposing, that owing to the defr d , and embarrassed state of the Treasury - your branch of the Executive Dept s - as an excuse to procrastinate the claims of pensioners for the present - has laid on such additional rigid exactions, as will under it next to impossibility to establish them to your present satisfaction! And your objections to the 3 last, will establish cases I have sent you, does remind me of the Fable of the Wolf, and the Lamb, that muddied the water (as the wolf said) by drinking in the stream below him!! more and more you seem determined to pick a quarrel, or find cause to object to every case - however well it may be established. In Mr s Oglethorpe, you object to the evidence in the S ce of Consanguinity. In Mr s Winfrey's - because Winfrey did not know of the services of soldiers, that he never served in his life - having went into service from a different County. And lastly in Mr s Redman's, you object, because the actress had not kept a written date as to the marriage - so as to keep his memory straight!! and in now you to exclude this class of evidence from the courts of justice - the educated poor will soon get possession of the honest earnings of the unlettered citizen. yours respectfully - an early answer is requested. Robt H Gray

BOUNTY LAND WARRANT RECORD CARD*
NAME Pedman, John GRADE Private LINE Artillery Artificers "of Pennsylvania"
WARRANT NUMBER 13694 ACREAGE 100 ISSUED January 2, 1796 TO —not shown—
*The information concerning the issuance of warrants carded on this form is found in volumes 2 to 4 of "Land Warrants Issued Prior to 1800" which are registers of bounty land warrants issued to non-commissioned officers and privates under congressional resolutions of September 16, 1776, and subsequent dates. Other records relative to the applications for warrants appear to have been destroyed in the War Department fire of November 9, 1800. Information concerning warrants surrendered to the Federal Government is to be found in General Land Office records in The National Archives.

BOUNTY LAND WARRANT RECORD CARD*
NAME Redman John GRADE Private LINE Pennsylvania
WARRANT NUMBER 10324 ACREAGE 100 ISSUED March 4, 1791 to Andrew Neilson, Adm re
*The information concerning the issuance of warrants carded on this form is found in volumes 2 to 4 of "Land Warrants Issued Prior to 1800" which are registers of bounty land warrants issued to non-commissioned officers and privates under congressional resolutions of September 16, 1776, and subsequent dates. Other records relative to the applications for warrants appear to have been destroyed in the War Department fire of November 9, 1800. Information concerning warrants surrendered to the Federal Government is to be found in General Land Office records in The National Archives.