Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8478, for William Price, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
N. 6.
Price, William
R. 8478
CONTENTS

State of North Carolina } July Session 1833. Lincoln County }
Amendatory of the the declaration of William Dine for a pension under the act of Congress of 1832. Made 1st November 1832. Being duly sworn according to law, deposeth & saith further that if he ever received a discharge, of which he has no recollection they have been lost or mislaid. and further says that Col. Alvin Holland, Isaac Holland Esq., John Falls Esq. Col.
William Moore and many others can testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution. And the said William Dine further saith on oath, that by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his services, but according to the best of his recollections he served not less than the period mentioned below as a private in the Matilda. For nine months I served as a private in the Matilda and for such service I claim a pension
Sworn to & subscribed this day of July 1833.
William Dine
Sworn to & subscribed in open
Court.
Vandy M c Bee Clerk
of Lincoln County Court
I Vandy M c Bee Clerk of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the amended proceedings of the said Court on the matter of the application of William Dine for pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & Seal of Office at Lincolnton the 8 th day of July 1833
Vandy M c Bee

State of North Carolina Lincoln County - }
On this 30th day of November A.D. 1882 personally appeared in open court before the Worshipful the Justices of the County Court of Lincoln Now sitting William Rice a Resident of the said County of Lincoln aged 75 years who being first sworn according to Law took on his oath and made the following declarations in order to obtain the benefit of an act of Congress passed June the 7th 1832 that he was born in the County of Washington in the said State of North Carolina (as he was informed and does believe) about the 18th March in the year 1757. This said handed down to him by his father and raised in said County until the year 1781 when he removed to the County of Lincoln where he has resided ever since that he joined a Regiment of Militia under the Command of Capt. Lewis he believes he was two months in performing this tour that about the Month of June and July he entered the Service in an Expedition commanded by Gen. Sumter and Col. Davie being about two weeks that about the 1st of February 1781 he joined a Company of Volunteers in pursuit of the British under the Command of Lord Cornwallis Major Joseph Baker was our Commander we performed this tour in about three weeks - in September 1780 he joined a Detachment under the Command of Col. Davie and had an engagement at Hobbs Lane in the Waverly he thinks this tour was performed in 2 weeks in October he joined a Detachment commanded by Col. Davidson to 6 mile creek he thinks about 2 weeks, or perhaps 3 in June 1780 he joined a Company under Capt. Lewis and Marched to Harrower Mill where the Tories were embodied under John, above

That he performed this tour in about ten days, about the year 1778 he joined a Regiment of Militia and drove his Father's Wagon as far as Burnside in the State of South Carolina he being sick returned home he performed this tour in four months in the month of July 1781 he joined some Rangers in Lincoln County commanded by Capt' Barker & Capt' Frederick Hambleton he thinks was out about ten days, This applicant saith that he has no documentary evidence to prove his service having never received any written discharge of legal commission if he had he knows not what is become of it he hereby Relinquishes every claim whatever to a Pension or annuity that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any agency of any State known to the undersigned in open Court List Vandyke Clerk of Court      William Price and Court October 31st 1832
We Joseph Graham and William Wilson (no Clergyman being present) residing in the County of Lincoln State of North Carolina do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with William Price who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy five years of age (That he is reputed and believed in the neighbor- hood where he resides to have been a soldier of the revolution and that we concur in that opinion sworn to and subscribed the day and year above written List Vandyke Clerk of Court      J. Graham of Sacob Court                              Wm. Wilson

And the said Court do hereby declare their Opinion that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier & served as he states
I Vandy M. Bee Clerk of the County Court do hereby certify that the proceedings and original proceedings of said Court in the matter of the application of William Price, for a pension - In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal of office this 4 th day of November 1832
Vandy M. Bee
South-Carolina } personally appeared before me the York District } subscribing justice of the peace in and for the aforesaid District, James Carrothers and made oath in due form of law, and saith that he was in one tour of service with the above named appli- =cant, and that William Price served with him under the command of Capt. Robert Irwin during the snowy campaign but cannot say to the precise length of time that the above named applicant served in the revolutionary war, and he believes that he served as a common whig soldier sworn to & subscribed this 2 nd day of July 1833 before me W m Thorn J.P. James Carrothers
I, William Thorn do hereby certify to all whom it may concern that from my own personal knowledge of James Carrothers who has subscribed to the above affidavit is entitled to full credit and belief, and he would say nothing on his oath but what he believed to be substantially true in testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 2 nd day of July 1833
William Thorn J.P.

of South
State of North Carolina } Personally appeared before me (Isaac Holland an acting Lincoln County } justice of the peace of said County) William Price and being duly duly sworn Depoeth & saith that by reason of old age & the loss of memory he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service but to the best of his recollection he served at least in all of his time nine months as a private Soldier in the actual service of the united States in the revolutionary war that he never received any pay for the same that he claims under the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. that he relinquishes all other claim whatever. that there is no Clergeman now in his neighborhood acquainted with his character Sworn to and subscribed this 8 th day of July 1833 William Price
before me J Holland P.D. I Isaac Holland an acting justice of the peace do hereby certify that I am well acquainted with the witnesses (Joseph Graham & William J Wilson) that they being good Characters & are men of truth. That I am also well acquainted with William Price the within applicant & has been from my infancy (me being about 52 years old) that he ever bore & yet bears the character of a man of truth when on a & believe him to be 75 years of age & from report he endured the given under my hand & seal at office this 8 th day of July 1833. & in the Independence of the united States 67. J Holland P.D. (Seal)
Isaac Holland Justice of the Peace 1833

State of South Carolina York District } I Andrew M c Whorter Clerk of the Court of Sessions & Common Pleas for the District aforesaid do hereby certify that William Thorne whose Attestation and Certificate appears within is & was at the time of Attesting and certifying an Acting Justice of the Peace in the District aforesaid of  the  faith and credit is due & ought to be given to his Official Acts as such. Given under my hand & Seal of Office at Yorkville the 4 th day of July A.D. 1833.
A. Whorter 666/66

18562
William Price N.E.
Rejected, like lot 19 Left a gumb below —
4. 5. 11. 14. Int 96. 7. P. 328
D. Reinhard Lincolnton N.E.

BRIEF in the case of William Price  County of Lincoln in the State of North Carolina  (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 70  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     In 17 2 Private Capt. Irwin   about 1811 14 Genl Sumpter, Col. Davis   " + May Dickson   " 14 Col. Davis   " 10 Col. Davidson   " 4 8 13 Teamster Capt. Knore   Provisor Capt. Barber, Capt. Hembright  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? none  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Lincoln Co NC  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditionary evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? Traditionary  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? No clergyman the Court has not certified to the respectability of the citizens 
I Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
G. N. Forrest

William Price.
N o Ca
Rejected. In let 19- September 1833 to
D. Reinhardt Lincolnton
Let to Mr. J. R. Daniel Feb 22 '43 " " H. H. Sylvester Aug 28 '44 ack 7 June 1844 " H. H. Sylvester April 4. 1845.

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
8478 am
P. O. William Price
Service: _____
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

March 26 45
Sir I return your letter in the case of William Price, and beg leave respectfully to dissent from conclusions in the premises. In the absence of all knowledge that any recade endear could be found for military service, Price made his declaration, sitting forth ten months service, but his claim was disallowed. When again afterwards, it was ascertained that such proofs was in the Office of the Comptroller at Raleigh, and he was then directed to that Service for it, for , when it was found ample, and covered even more service than he had alleged his statement then considerable amount to the highest grade of endear. But the objection now raised are, that from matters of his ten months service was in the character of a teamster, as he was entitled. We all know that men were constantly detailed from the military to drive teams, and it certainly could not matter, whether the team belonged to his father, or any one else. It was not his, and must belong to some one.
That the want of payments covered five months more service than he alleged offers no grounds for discrediting his statement. We have many

Thousands of persons have obtained, as are daily obtaining additional claims for services omitted in their original declarations, made as they come in such hot haste immediately on the passage of the act of June 7 1832. I certainly must ask a re-examination of the claim upon its merits alone
I am Respectfully H. A. Sylvest
Col Edward

May 28/1844
adopted William Price by Mr & Mrs Price June 7 -
H H Harkness

State of North Carolina Compt Office
I William G Collins Comptroller of Public Accounts, in and for the State of North Carolina do certify that it appears of Record in my office that William Price was paid the sum of Forty Pounds (£40) Paid by Whitney since May 22 nd 1778. as will appear in Books K marked Military No. 1.) for Military Services given under my hand and seal of office this 26 th of May 1844
Wm G Collins Compt

From Price

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of William Price which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? Yes II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? Yes III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? Yes  No V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? Yes VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? Yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? Yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? Yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? Yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? Yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? ev
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? ys
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? ys
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service?
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? no
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct?
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? no
XVI. † Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? ys
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? 6, 7.
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace. &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
to the War Dept
#5

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shewn under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
† QUERE XIV.  Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
‡ QUERE XVI.  Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
¶ In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.