Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 4758, for John Ramsdel, Massachusetts

SERVICE
NUMBER
Mass.
Ramsdel, John or Ramsdell
S 4758
CONTENTS
Carded

76 Plym
15544 Massachusetts
John Ramsdell
Resided in the State of Mass was a Private in the Company commanded by Captain Miller of the Reg t commanded by Colonel Hall in the War for 75 days
* John Ramsdell, Records etc.
Entered on the Roll of Massachusetts the rate of 25 Dollars — Cents per annum, commence on the 4th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 28 th day of June 1833 and dated at Plymouth Mass
Due to the 4th of March 1835 $50.00 Pension allowance ending Sept. 12.50 $62.50
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. Atkinson Clerk, Book E Vol. 2 a Page 72

John Bannett
205 451
and is a citizen of the District of Columbia, resident in the town of... who has signed the foregoing certificate, is a clergyman, resident in the town of... the Court further certifies that it appears to them that... the aforementioned applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states... and that after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, the... and the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the... person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
Signed by us and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid.
...a citizen, residing in the... ...town of... ...residing in the... ...disputed with... ...declaration that we believe him to be... ...required and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier... ...the resolution, and we concur in that opinion.

REVOLUTIONARY PENSIONERS.
Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
COUNTY OF PLYMOUTH, ss.
ON this twenty second day of August 1832, personally appeared in open Court, before Hon. Wilber Wood, Judge of the Court of Probate now sitting at Hanover within and for said County of Plymouth, John Tharnedell a resident of Hanson in said County of Plymouth, and Commonwealth of Massachusetts, aged seventy four years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7, 1832. He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State. That is to say, that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated.
That he enlisted in Capt. Wm Weston's company of State troops, Andrew Samson Lieut. Josiah Smith Ensign, July 1. 1776 and marched on to the Gurnet, a Fort at the entrance of Plymouth Harbour, where he was stationed and served the whole term of his enlistment which was six months, he was then dismissed the first of January 1777 and returned home, but received no discharge.
That he entered the service again in the fall of the year 1777, and served as a soldier in Capt. John Durfee's company of Militia for one month and a half. That he marched to Tiverton

Rhode Island, and was quartered at a Widow Brown's about a mile and a half from Howland's Ferry. The company belonged to Col. Hall's Regiment, he was dis- missed at the end of his service, and returned home but received no discharge.
That he was born in Pembroke, now Hanson June 4 1758, but does not know of any public re- cord of his age; that he lived in Pembroke when called into the service, and since the revolutionary war he has lived three years in Bridgewater, but for the last thirty five years he has lived in Hanson, former- ly a part of Pembroke.
That he is known to Isaac B. Barker and Oliver Whittier Esqrs. of Hanson, and Rev. Morrill Allen and David Oldham Jr. of Pembroke & others, who can testify to his character for veracity and their belief of his services as a soldier of the Revolution.
John Ransom
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
Attest Jacob H. Lord Register

We, Morrill Allen a clergyman, residing in the town of Pembroke and Isaac B. Barker residing in the town of Hanson hereby certify, that we are well ac- quainted with John Ramsdell who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy four years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and we concur in that opinion. Isaac B. Barker Morrill Allen
Sworn to, and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid, by the said Barker Attest Jacob H. Lord Register
On this month of August 23, 1832 Then the above named Morrill Allen made oath to the truth of the above certificate before me Anthony Colbomson, Just.
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the abovenamed applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that Rev Morrill Allen who has signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman, resident in the town of Pembroke and that Isaac B. Barker Esq who has also signed the same, is a resident in the town of Hanson and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
By the Court Attest Jacob H. Lord Register
I, Jacob H. Lord Register of the Court of Probate do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of John Ramsdell for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this twenty second day of August in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two .

20645
John Ramevale Mass
Rate 7 Mr. 15 days
InMlaget
Jacob A. Lund Plymouth Mass

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of John Russell Plymouth Mass
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Names and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles in which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlist 1776 6 Private Col Weston " " Plymouth Mass Bristol { 24 years Voluntary { 12 years service   - 1777 1 15 Dunbar { Hull { " " Rhode Island Bristol { 24 years messed  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.
2553 11/17/00 500

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B.
who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that he answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons -one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , in the militia, &c without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must fix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule is note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[k] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[l] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[m] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

Rehr 4758. INVALID.
File No. 4758
* John Ramsdell Print Rev War
Act: June 7 th 1832.
Index:—Vol. M , Page 308
[Arrangement of 1870.]
* John Ramsdel. Records corrected Apr. 7 '04 A

I Seth Penny of Hancan in the County of Plymouth & State of Massachusetts aged seventy seven years testify and say that John Brumdale of Hancan aforesaid served as a soldier with me in the service of the United States in the company commanded by Captain William Weston Andrew Sampson, Lieutenant & Josiah Smith, Ensign at a place called the Gurnet at the entrance of Plymouth Harbor in the County of Plymouth and State of Massachusetts for the term of six months commencing about the first of July A.D. 1776 & further your deponents saith not -
Hancan July 31 1832
Seth Penny
State of Massachusetts, County of Plymouth ss July 31. 1832. Then the above named Seth Penny personally appeared and made oath to the truth of the affidavit by him subscribed. Before me Anthony Collamore Justice of Peace
I Christopher Pease of Pembroke in the County of Plymouth and State of Massachusetts aged 75 years do testify and say that John Brumdale served with me as a soldier in Capt. Weston's company of State troops at the Gurnet, a fort at the entrance of Plymouth Harbor we enlisted the first of July 1776 and served six months, and were dismissed the first of Jan'y 1777. I likewise testify and say that the said John Brumdale served with me as a soldier in Capt. John Turner's company in Col. Hall's Regiment of Militia in the fall of the year 1777, that we marched to Bristol Rhode Island, and were stationed at a Widow Brown's about a mile and a half from Howlands Ferry, and served six weeks at this time.
Pembroke August 2. 1832
Christopher Pease
State of Massachusetts, Plymouth ss. August 2. 1832 Then the above named Christopher Pease subscribed and made oath to the truth of the above declaration before me Anthony Collamore, Justice of Peace

Commonwealth of Massachusetts
I, James B. Mannas, Clerk of the Supreme Judicial Court being a Clerk of said Court in the County of Plymouth do hereby testify that nothing testimony lies before where the within affidavit was sworn is a true copy of the same for the County of Plymouth. And that I believe his name to be his true signature.
Whereby it appears that I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said Supreme Judicial Court on this thirteenth day of August A.D. 1832
James B. Mannas
I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with both Perry & Christopher Pianiani and that they are men of truth & entitled to full credit. A. Collamore
John Randall Secy.