Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8186, for John Phillips, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New-York
Phillips, John Catharine
R. 8186
CONTENTS

John Phillips & ref Frederick Phillips To
Edward A Brown
Power of atty

To the Commission of Pensions.
We have authorised & empowered Edmund A. Brown of Syracuse - attorney & counselor at law - as our agent & attorney to prosecute the pension claim of the late Catherine Phillips - of Cicero - Monroe Co. County N.Y. & said Brown is the sole person authorised by us to act for us in relation thereto - until said claim is fully decided - in being two of the children of said Catherine. Sister Syracuse Dec. 4 th 1846.
In presence of Chas. J. Dill
John D. Phillips Mark Frederick Phillips

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Catharine Phillips N.Y. John
Oct. 7 July '38
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L o Jan. 19. 1846.
The same for which the above has been awarded value due by Hannah Phillips of Allegany Co.

State of New York
Rensselaer County
On this third day of October One Thousand Eight hundred and forty three before the Court of Common pleas of said County in Open Court before the judges thereof, the same being a Court of record personally appeared Catharine Phillips, widow of the town of Cicero in the County of Onondaga in said State aged Eighty five Years the thirteenth day of June last past, who being first duly sworn according to law does on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provision made by the act of Congress passed July 7th 1838. Entitled "An act granting half pay & pensions to certain widows." That she is the widow of John Phillips who was a private, Corporal and Sergeant in the service of the United States in the Revolutionary war. That she often heard her said husband in his life time say that the Year in which Burgoyne surrendered, he was in the service at and about Saratoga, Stillwater & that Win- -cously a long time and up to the surrender of Burgoyne and she thinks he then served under Capt Jacob Phillips under Lieut. or Col. Robert Van Rensselaer. That her hus- -band the said John Phillips then resided at Claverack below Albany where his deponent also resided. That she often heard him say that he was in service at and about Fort Plain. Some length of time, also that he was sta- -tioned at Schenectady some time. That he was in an Ex- -pedition to Susquehanna Country, heard him speak of the last place at which place John Moyer the brother of the deponent was killed by the Enemy in an Engagement that she heard him say he was in service at Johnstown and that section of Country in Albany Co. but she cannot recollect the Year of any particular service Except the Year in which Burgoyne surrendered. Nor can she recollect the length of time of any particular service, nor can she name the particular officers under whom he served at all the different times he was in the service.

that she often heard him say he was Enlisted under and served under Captain Col. Willet, with whom this deponent was acquainted, but she cannot state the term of said Enlistment nor the length of service. She heard him speak of several other officers under whom he served but she cannot now recollect their names. Neither can she now recollect all the places he stated he was at in the service, and she further states that she was married to said John Phillips in the fall of the Year when the war closed in the Spring or Summer, previous she cannot recollect the month for certainty but it was the last fall month or the first winter month. She recollects the marriage took place on the twenty first day of the month, her husband's birth day came on the twenty Eighth day of the same month, that the marriage was solemnized at the house of John Frank about a mile west of Fort Perkins, that the marriage was solemnized by the Rev d Abraham Rosecrans that they afterwards resided for many Years in the said County of Perkins where many of her friends & relations now reside, that from there they removed to Duval County, where her said husband died Eighteen Years ago the fourth day of April last. That she has not intermarried but still continues the widow of the said John Phillips. That she was not aware of the provision made by the said act until last Spring, and she makes her declaration in this County for the reason that her friends reside therein and the proofs are more easily obtained -
Catharine her Phillips mark
The foregoing affidavit was duly subscribed and sworn to in Open Court Oct 3 rd 1843. Witness my hand & official seal.
E. A. Munnson Clerk

State of New York Herk County ss. On this 14 th day of February 1844 before the court of Common pleas of said County in open Court before the Judges thereof the same being a Court of record personally appeared Abraham G. Rosecrantz of the town of Little Falls in said County and made oath in due form of law that the book purporting to be the original book of records of Marriages, Baptisms &c solemnized made & kept by his Grandfather the Rev. Abraham Rosecrantz in his life time is now in the possession & custody of this deponent, he being the Grand Son & personal represen- tative of the Rev. Abraham Rosecrantz — that the said book is the same now here produced before the said Court for Examination — That this deponent from the information received from his father George Rosecrantz deceased and otherwise always did and does now believe that the Entries therein made are the true records of the Marriages therein recorded. — That on Examination of the same under the head of Marriages he found an Entry in the following words and figures vizt "1784 d 21 st Novem: Johannes Philips in Catharina Hen Majer" — That from his knowledge & acquaint- ance with the said records the said Entry is a record that on the 21 st day of November 1784 John Philips was married to Catharine Moyer daughter of Henry Moyer. That his said Grandfather was a German and as this deponent always was in- formed & believes true was the minister of the Reformed Dutch Church of Herkness & German Flatts, and vicinity
Sworn in open Court
A. G. Rosecrantz
This said Court do hereby certify the said book of records was submitted to and examined by the Judges thereof, that the same appears to be an account book of records, the entries therein made in regular order with dates in regular succession

the extract in the foregoing affidavit copied entered in the body of a page with regular entries both above & below The Court do therefore further certify that in their opinion as well from the examination & inspection of the said book and the entries therein as from testimony adduced before the Court that the said book and the records therein contained are genuine and the same kept by the Rev. Abraham Rosecrantz in his life time as the Minister of the Gospel of the Church in the affidavit of A. G. Rosecrantz named.
Witness my hand & official Seal October 14th 1844.
E. A. Munson Clerk

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of Aprn, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent. per annum, viz :
   18 th May 1777. Johannis Philips Priv 1 0 10   2 d Sept 1779. John Philips Do 2 9 10   25 th Nov Do John Philips Do 3 9 11   15 th Sept 1780. John Philips Corp e 3 11 —   11 th Oct Do Do Do 1 6 7   23 rd Oct 1781. Do Do 1 12 6   5 th Nov Do Do Priv 1 3 7   31 st Dec 1782. John Philips Do 21 8 5   10 th Oct 1777. John Philips Do — 12 5  
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, 10 th Jan y 1846.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2, 5, 7, 8 & 9. now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
 First—under Capt. Dirck Rockenfeller in Col. Henry Livingston Regt.  Second " " David Ostrander , " Maj. Moses Phillips , "  Third " " Gideon King " Lieut. Rob t Van Rensselaer .  Fourth " " Jacobus Philips " " Henry Van Rensselaer ,  Fifth " " Do " " Do "  Sixth " " Do " " Do "  Seventh " " Lt. M a D. Fonda " " Henry Van Rensselaer  Eighth " " Capt d Joel Gillett " " Marcus Willett  Ninth " " Adam Houser " " Henry Livingston  Tenth " " " " " "  Eleventh " " " " " "  Twelfth " " " " " " 
Philip Phelps Compt t

A Muster Roll of Cap t Israel Curtis Company in Maj r John Brown's Detachment now in the service of the United Colonies. dated at Camp near Quebec 12 th Feby 1776.
John Phillips 17 th Nov r 1775. Present.
This Muster is taken from the 17 th Nov. 1775 to 30 th Jan y . 1776. inclusive
James Van Rensselaer Dep y M c M c Genl.
Comptrollers Office } Albany 10 th Jan y . 1846 }
I certify the preceding to be a true extract from a Revolutionary Document now remaining in this office
Philip Schuyler

State of New York Herkimer County ss.
On this third day of October one thousand eight hundred and fortythree before the undersigned justing the peace in and for said County personally appeared Catharine Phillips a resident of the town of Cicero. Onondaga County in the said State aged Eighty five Years the thirteenth day of June last past, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed on the 3 rd day of March 1843 granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary war. That she is the widow of John Phillips, who was a private, Captain and Sergeant in the service of the United States in the Revolutionary war, and served under Capt. Jacob Phillips, Capt. Wisner and other officers not recalled. That her claim for pension under the act of July 7 th 1838 having only been commenced and she cannot state the amount she may be entitled to under that act, and she further declares that she is still the widow of the said John Phillips
Subscribed and sworn before me October 3, 1843 John A. Rabbach Justice
Catharine Phillips mark
In presence of Wm Smith

State of New York
Herkimer County ss
On this fifteenth day of August One thousand Eight hundred and Forty three before the undersigned justice of the peace in & for said County personally appeared Philip of the town of Danube in said County aged Eighty two years the twenty fifth day of April last past who being first duly sworn does on his oath say, that in the Revolutionary war his brother John Philips who was about four years older than this deponent was called into service in the militia under Capt. Jacob Philips under Col. Van Rensselaer that they then resided at Claverack in Columbia County. He recollects that in the early part of the war in the year 1776 & he thinks in the winter of 1776, a portion of the Company were drawn among whom was the said John Philips his brother. to go to Johnstown then in Canada that he said then go it was cold. that his brother John was absent in that Expedition about two months, and when they returned some of the Company had their feet frozen - that his brother John was in service before he this deponent was. that the said Philips  and his brother John the brother of this deponent were together in service in the same Company on several occasions. that the said John served as a private and Sergeant under Capt. Jacob Philips and went on an Expedition from Claverack to Fort Plain this deponent was in the same Expedition one one month that they were in service at another time one month at and about Schoharie City. that at another time this deponent and a portion of the Regiment were on duty at Fort Plain one month, and were relieved by another portion of the same Regiment. that his brother John was one of the relief party and they then served one month when he returned to Claverack. that his brother John was in service at different times under different officers one he served under Col. Brown. recollects he served

Col. Willet & he thinks under an Enlistment for nine months, under Ensign Dean as he was called. They were stationed at Stillwater at the time he cannot now recollect the years in which any particular service was rendered. That he this deponent served in each of the years 1778, 1779, 1780, & 1781, and his brother John was in service before he (this deponent was) and was in the service in each of the years of the war but this deponent cannot recollect all the officers nor all the particular services. recollects Capt. Knapp, Capt. Conger, Capt. Whitbeck. He was under Col. Robt. Van Rensselaer and afterwards under Col. Henry Van Rensselaer. He cannot recollect that his brother John was in service under each of the Captains named but he this deponent was & he thinks his brother John was. They were in the same service together four times but he cannot now recollect the particulars of but two are at Fort Plain and one at Schoharie. That his brother John Philips was married to Catharine Moyer, this deponent was present. The marriage was solemnized by the Rev. Abraham Rosencrantz at the house of John Frank Esq. near Fort Herkimer. That his brother John has been dead near twenty years, leaving the said Catharine his widow who now resides in the town of Cereso in Oneida County as this deponent is informed and believes that the marriage took place within a few years after the war.
This Adam T. Philips mark
Subscribed and sworn before me August 15. 1843 J. A. Kabbach Justice

State of New York Schenectady Co. ss.
I certify that J. B. Barbach Esq. before whom the two foregoing affidavits were sworn was on the day of the dates thereof a justice of the peace in and for said County duly elected and qualified and that I am well acquainted with his handwriting and justly believe his signature to the proofs to said affidavits are genuine. Witness my hand and Official Seal Jan'y 14, 1846.
E. A. Munnson Clerk

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
8186
P. O. Catharine Phillips
Service: widow of John who died about 1825
Enlisted: See also Hannah ref l , 18
Discharged: 8192 who claimed, 18 for same service as widow
Application filed: of John who died, 18 in 1814
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18 .

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Catharine Phillips
N.Y.
John
Act 7. July 1838
Letter to J. A. Rasbach 31. March 1846.
" " N. Leche, June 24, '40
Mrs. H. Wheaton July 16. 45.
E. A. Brown, July 13/47.
8186
Act 7 July '38

Rev J. L. Edwards Court of Pensions
Washington

Sir,
Syracuse Jan'y 21. 1847.
I herewith enclose to you an affidavit of John Phillips, a son of the late Catherine Phillips of Licens, an applicant for a pension, asserted on account of the Revolutionary Services of John Phillips deceased - her late husband -
I have not the advantage of knowing the contents of the original Declaration of Mrs. Phillips - I of course am not well prepared to furnish the proof to overcome the obstacles in the way of her claim being allowed, as I should be had I a knowledge of the contents of that declaration - I request you to send me a full abstract of it to aid me in the examination necessary in the case -
The affidavit enclosed may aid you in comparing a portion of the Service Claimed with the history of the times - I refer to that part of the claim relating to Phillips service as Sergeant or Corporal - He mentioned or noticed the private Hatter (service Hatter I believe) - at any rate Hatter about 1822 called on Phillips to prove his Hatter's Service in the same Company

Procured Phillips's papers which up to that time had been preserved - to use in establishing his claim to a pension - Jones & Watters were Hatter's attorneys - I am not aware that Hatter ever perfected the proof of his claim for a pension - He is now dead & so is his attorney & have been for many years - The Journal of Service here referred to must have amounted to nine months, I suppose - or he would not have set up a claim under the act of 1818 - You may have records showing the service of Hatter (it is possible that I have mis- apprehended his Christian name) in the company of which Phillips was an officer if not Hatter's papers - which will be evidence confirmatory of his claim -
I hope to hear from you relative to this case as fully & as speedily as possible
I am very Respectfully
Your Ob st Serv t
Richard M c Mullen
Hon. J. H. Edwards Court of Pensions -

April 14. 1896
Rev. Dr.
Phillips
Hon. J. L. Edwards Comm. of Pension Present
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Washington April 13 th 1846.
Sir
I am called upon by a Mrs Philips widow of John Philips, to prosecute her claim to pension. She made her declaration some two years ago in Herkimer Co. N.Y. but now resides in Onondaga, Mrs Kurbach formerly acted as agent in her case, and she is dissatisfied with his agency in the matter, & I am wholly unapprized of the condition of the claim have the goodness to report it to me at your early convenience or permit me to examine the papers, that I may know in what respect they are defective your compliance will oblige
Yours Respectfully, Nathan Lake

State of New York Montgomery County } ss.
John Phillips of the Town of Cicero in the county of Montgomery aforesaid, being duly sworn, says that he is a son of John Phillips late of Manlius in Seneca County & Catharine Phillips late of Cicero in Seneca County, whose application for a pension on account of the Revolutionary Services of said John Phillips deceased - is now pending before the Pension office at Washington - and that deponent is aged fifty eight years & upwards. That deponent well recollects that his said father was reported in his neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary Soldier & to have served under Col. Henry Van Rensselaer & also under Major Phillips & other officers whose names deponent was often heard but does not now distinctly recollect - Deponent further says that he always understood from his said father during his life time that he at one time was Sergeant & that he served at different periods & under different Captains & officers from time to time from the beginning to the end of the war - That he resided at Claverack easterly of Hudson at the time of such services. That in 1775 he left that town & went into service & proceeded to Canada to Quebec & other places & was absent during a part of the following year 1776 - but deponent cannot from his recollection state the name of his Captain or other officers - Deponent further states that he has heard his said father say that he went twice to Canada as a Soldier - Deponent further says that he well recollects the name of Col. Henry Van Rensselaer as he was called by his said father - as one of the officers under whom he served - & deponent's impression now is that he also served under two officers named Van Rensselaer - but the Christian name of the other he does not remember - Deponent further says that he has heard his said father say that one Lawrence Hatter served in the same company with him

while he (Said Phillips) held a non commission office - & that Said Hatter borrowed of Said Phillips some papers relating to the Said last named Service to enable Said Hatter to obtain a pension which may about the year 1822 or thereabouts - being a short time before the death of Deponent's Said father which took place in 1825 - Deponent further says that diligent examination & inquiry have been made for Said papers but they cannot be found - Said papers as deponent understood proved that Said Phillips warned or otherwise notified Said Hatter to muster into Service in Said Company - & that Said Hatter was enrolled in Said Company of which Said Phillips was a non commission officer.
Deponent further says that at one time Adam Phillips a brother of Deponent's father served in the Same Company with Said John Phillips - but in what particular he is unable to state - Deponent has understood from his Said father that he was at Saratoga up to near the time of Burgoyne's surrender - but was retained a short time prior to that event by his Said Brother Adam - who took his place for some time - but for what length he does not know -
Deponent further states that he also heard his Said father after relating to Said Revolutionary Services - & particularly that he served under three or four different Captains - whose names he mentioned but which, on account of lapse of time, deponent has forgotten, except so far as is above stated - Deponent further says that he always resided with his Said father until the time of his death - & often heard him converse with other Soldiers about their respective hardships & fatigues during the War referred to - The places of the Services aforesaid I cannot further state except that Hoosick was named as one place of his Service -

Deponent further says that his said father was during his life time & subse- quently reputed to have been a Revolutionary soldier & such reputation was universal among his old acquaintances, friends, relatives & neighbors & further deponent says not — Sworn before me this 11 th day of December 1846. N.B. "names" & "year" being first interlined Charles Annable Justice of the peace
his John D. Phillips Mark
State of New York Onondaga County } ss. I hereby certify that I am personally well acquainted with John Phillips who has this day made the foregoing affidavit before me, & further that he is a credible person & sustaining a good character for truth veracity & integrity —
I further certify that the reason why he signs his name with a (P.) mark instead of writing it out in full is that he has never acquired the art of writing —
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand this Eleventh day of December A.D. 1846 — Charles Annable Justice

State of New York } Onondaga County } p - J. N. B. Smith
Clerk of said County of Onondaga, do hereby certify that Charles Annable, before whom the foregoing affidavit of John Phillips was sworn to & who executed the foregoing certificate on the Eleventh day of December 1846 - a justice of the peace in & for the county of Onondaga aforesaid, & that the signatures to the great to said affidavit, & to said certificate, purporting to be the signatures of said Charles Annable are his genuine signatures -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed my seal of office at Syracuse in said County this fourth day of January - A.D. 1847. N.B. "John W. Smith" "fourth" "January" & "in" in this certificate were written on an erasure & are an erasure of the word "my" which before "county" before execution & sealing thereof. W. M. Smith Clerk of Onondaga County

Herkimer N.Y. Jany 14/46
Sir Enclosed I forward the Claim of Catharine Phillips for Pension it is a claim which has long been delayed for the reason that the claimant & her son allege that they had the old warrants until since the act of 1832 when a man by the name of Lawrence Hester got the said warrants to establish his claim for pension. and they Expected to obtain these original warrants, which would have pro- -ved her husband to have been a non Commissioned officer and served a portion of the term in that Capacity. — They have however failed in getting the old warrants and the supposition now is that they may be on file in Your office with the papers of said Hester who lived in Onondaga or Madison County —
It has been so long delayed that it is hoped You will give the claim Your Earliest attention
Your Obet Servt
J. L. Edwards Esq. Comp. of Pensions
J. A. Rasbach
I do not know Lawrence Hester as related to such