Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 7832, for John Out, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Out John
R 7832
CONTENTS

State of New York. Greene County. Town of Coxsackie
} for
John Qut of Coxsackie in the said County being duly sworn before me James Mullen a justice of the peace in and for said County:— Says that he was pressed into the regular service of the United States in the summer of seventeen hundred and seventy five (1775) as a wagoner or teamster, with his own team, to draw timber for building barracks for the soldiers in the County of Albany and State of New York; that he served in the capacity of wagoner one month under Captain Putnam; and that from the time and services above mentioned until the taking of General Burgoyne he was enrolled and served as a minute man under Capt. Mindert Van Schaick Lieut. Leonard Bronk and Ensign Jehoiachim Tryon— and that from the taking of Genl. Burgoyne in seventeen hundred and seventy seven (1777) until the close of the Revolutionary war he was enrolled and served as a minute man under Captain Mindert Van Schaick, and Lieutenants Leonard Bronk and Richard Vandenberg— and that during this time he was called out a great number of times on scouting parties to fight with and drive back the Indians who were plundering and murdering the white people on our frontiers— and that he had to stand guard one night in each week when he was not away from home on scouting parties and that for all these services he has never received anything from the general government— that he is dependant and in the eighty ninth year of his age and furthermore this deponent saith not.
Sworn to and subscribed this 19th of October 1850; Before me
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JOHN QUT
James Mullen Justice of the Peace.

STATE OF NEW YORK, } ss. Greene County Clerk's Office.
I, JACOB VAN ORDEN, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that James Mullen before whom the annexed deposition was made, and whose name is thereto subscribed, was at the date thereof a Justice of the peace in and for said County, duly authorized to take the same, and that the signature thereto subscribed is genuine.
WITNESS my hand and official seal, at Catskill, this 4 th day of Dec r 1859
J. Van Orden. Clk

State of New York County of Greene
On this twenty fifth day of July one thousand Eight Hundred and fifty three, personally appeared Before me, Casper B. Stollenbeck, a Justice of the Peace authorized to administer Oaths, Witnesses and Seal the County and State aforesaid, James Mullen - a President of the town of Athens Greene County and State aforesaid deposeth and says that he, ss. & has been well acquainted with John Out of the same Place, who has applied for a pension for his services in the Revolutionary War with Great Britain and has been acquainted with him about forty - five years and that formerly said out was in - Comfortable Circumstances But now is and has Been for some fore or five years in indigent - Circumstances has nothing to support himself With has to live on and be supported by one of His daughters and son in Law and their income is very small and further this deponent says that said John out some twelve years since has Been from time to time at this deponent to go on and try to get his pension for his services in said war But had no means himself to defray the Expenses And if deponent went on would have to do it at his Deponents own Expenses which Expenses said -

Deponent has Been, to, and further this deponent Sworn and Subscribed, 3 this twenty fifth day of James Mullen July 1853. Before Me
G. A. Hollenbeck Justice of the Peace,
State of New York,
Greene County Clerk's Office. I, JACOB VAN ORDEN, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that C. A. Hollenbeck before whom the annexed deposition was made, was at the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and duly authorized to take the same, and that the signature purporting to be his I believe to be genuine.
In Testimony Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County this 21 day of July 1853 Wm. A. Van Orden Dep Clerk.

State of New York } On the ninth day of September County of Greene: B. J. S. P. one thousand Eight hundred and fifty one ---
Personally appeared Before me James Mullen a justice of the Peace in and for the County of Greene and State Aforesaid John Out aged Eighty nine years now a resident of the town of Athens and formerly a President of the town of Coesackie in the said County of Greene and State Aforesaid, and being By me duly sworn says, that in Addition to My former affidavit made the nineteenth day of Octo. 24, P. one thousand Eight hundred and fifty that he is the identical person who was a private in the Company Commanded by Captain Munder Van Schack, and Lieutenant Leonard Bronk and Ensigns John William Tryon and John Van Schack in the Regiment Commanded by Colonel Anthony Van Bergen and Major John Bronk says he was drafted in the month of March one thousand Seven hundred and Seventy five and served as an indian Spy and Standing Sentry during the Revolutionary war with great Brillian and taking and Consolidating my different terms of Service together during the Revolutionary war Would make over one year and Six Months in actual Service and was Verbally discharged at the town of Coesackie in said County of Greene and State of New York in the year one thousand Seven hundred and Seventy nine at the close of the Revolutionary war with great Brillian, he makes this declaration for the purpose of obtaining the pension to which he may be entitled under the act passed in the year 1832 Sworn to and Subscribed Before me JOHN Out the day and year first above written
James Mullen Justice of the Peace

State of New York } Greene County } ss } on this thirty first day of december A.D. one thousand Eight hundred and fifty one personally appeared Before me a Justice of the Peace in and for the County and State aforesaid Evert Claw aged Eighty Six years a President of the town of athens in the said County who being by me duly sworn according to law says that he is - - acquainted with the within named John out and from general information I know of his - serving in the Revolutionary war with Great Britain and have no doubt from information and my own knowledge of his services that he said John out has served the time mentioned in his affidavit hereto annexed and I further State that I am well acquainted with him and have been from the Commencement of the Revolutionary war with Great Britain and further State that I know that said John out is in indigent circumstances and further this deponent saith not - - Sworn to and subscribed. { Before Me the day and { Evert Claw year first above written { James Muller Justice of the Peace
STATE OF NEW YORK, } ss. Greene County Clerk's Office. }
I, JACOB VAN ORDEN, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that
James Muller before whom the annexed Affirmation was made, and whose name is thereto subscribed, was at the date thereof a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, duly authorized to take the same, and that the signature thereto subscribed is genuine.
WITNESS my hand and official seal, at Catskill, this 17 th day of
January 1852 Jacob Van Orden Clerk

REJECTED
7832
P. O. _____
John Out Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18 .
Discharged: _____, 18 .
Application filed: _____, 18 .
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18 .

No 38. 109.
7832
John Out
N.Y.
Act 7 th June 1832
Letter to P. G. Washington March 18 th 1851 Same May 8. 1852.
J Mullen June 7. 1853
Jno S. Edwards Sept 19. 1853

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Mo

July 28, 1853.
Appl. of John Out,
N. York.
James Mullen, Athens, Greene co., N. Y.
DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, PENSION OFFICE, OFFICIAL BUSINESS

James Mullen Athens Greene Co NY
Claim of John Cut Revolution
H. Washington Agent

Mr. P. G. Washington.
Dear Sir.
I have not yet received the extra number of "The United States Postal Guide" containing the "Bounty Land Bill" and "the abridgement of the Pension laws". I wish you to go on and obtain John Oats pension certificate as soon as you can. If there is any other information wanted you must write me and send me the form and I will have it filled in and forward it to you at once. I wish you to do all and take the 25 per cent.
Yours Respectfully, James Mullen
Athens (Secr. Ind. 1850.)

Washington Jan'y 26 1832
Sir
I enclose herewith additional evidence in the case of John Out, filed some time since by me for pension for his Revolutionary services and I beg leave to commend it to your early and favorable attention. Mr Out is aged infirm and indigent. He and his friends have been at great trouble and at an expense of about eighty dollars in hunting up testimony: namely that of Coert below and found much in need of the returns to January 1832 arise from the allowance of his claim.
H. Washington.
James K Heath Esqr

State of New-York, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE. }
Albany, July 14 th 1853.
Sir : I certify that the name of John Out is not to be found on any records in this office.
In witness whereof I have hereto subscribed my name & caused the seal of my Office to be affixed the day and year above written.
Philip Phelps Esq. Jr.

Feb: 7. 1853
Re: to case of
John Out.
M.
Jas Mullen
Athens.
(State not mentioned)

Athens February 2 nd 1852
Hon, J. E. Heath Commissioner of Pensions Dear Sir I drop a few lines to you of enquiry - Concerning the Claims of John But one of the Revolutionary soldiers in his first affidavit I had not Consolidated the amount of time that he had served Which by your Letter of - Enquiry as to the amount of time I drew a new affidavit at his the said John out's Request and to Which affidavit I attached Gvert Clows affidavit He had always Lived in the immediate - - - - Neighboorhood of John out from his infancy and he knew of his services as you Will see by his affidavit and Gvert Clow at the time of making his - - Affidavit Was eighty six years old, he is a Very Respectable Man, I had got P. G Washington the Printer of the Postle Guide to attend to my Business in John But's Claim he had wrote to Me previous to My sending. Mr out's Second - affidavit to which affidavit Gvert Clows affidavit Is attached he wrote to me to send the affidavits to him and he would immediately carry them to the Pension office himself Will you be so kind

as to inform Me by Letter wether they ware Brought there by Mr Washington as he agreed and oblige Me as to get any more Light on that Subject & Do not know that I can as there are but few of that advanced age living, I have Been to the Controller's office in Albany and made search - But the Rolls of the Revolutionary war are so imperfect that even the Major John Bronk nor the Major's son Leonard Bronk who was a Lieutenant are not on the Roll and a number more that had served in that war their names not down I told the Controller I wished him to write to - you to that affect and he said it was not
necessary as you will know that to be the case He told me that a number had got their pensions that were not on the Roll in Albany which had done services in the Revolutionary war, please answer this Enquiry immediately and also wether It is necessary for Me to come down in John's case or not if it is necessary for Me to come Myself I will come down immediately at the Receipt of your Letter - - - - - Very Respectfully Yours obedient Servant James Mullen Garnese G. Heath Commissioner of pensions

State of New York } County of Greene } Town of Athens July 25 th 1853
Sir
I send you My affidavit, in Relation to John Luts application for a pension for his Services Rendered in the Revolutionary War with Great Britain Sir the Reasons for his not applying sooner is this he Wanted Me to undertake it some twelve or fifteen years ago but did not want to agree to give Me any thing for My time nor Expenses which I Did not at that time think proper and furthermore At that time said but was in uncomfortable Circumstances but since that time has lost All he had and is now very poor and entirely Dependent upon one of his daughters who is not in very good Circumstances since he first wanted me to undertake for him the Old Revolutionaries have Mostly all died in this Section I had to go Rising of a hundred and sixty Miles to get John Collyers Affidavit one that had served with Mr Luts in the same Company they served together from the Commencement of the war untill the Surrender of General Burgoin - - then Mr Collyer Left this place and Mr Luts Continued in the Service I have Been to the Comptrollers office in Albany and Examined the Revolutionary Rolls four times Myself and Mr Luts Same is not on the Rolls there is quite a number that I have understood had served in that

Now that I did not see their names on the Rolls in Albany the Comptroller has also examined the Rolls thoroughly and could not find Mr. Axt's name on the Rolls this will appear by the Comptroller's Certificate herewith sent to you - - - - - Hon. L. P. Waldo                      } Respectfully your obedient Commissioner of                      } Servant Sessions                                  James O'Nellen

John Oats can for a Rev Pension New York re-examination asked
Mr Cole
John S. Edwards
Deer

Washington D.C.
Aug 6 th 1853
D. Sir
You will please have the case of John Oats for a Revolutionary Pension from New York taken from the unpend- file & placed in the hands of the com- -miss & report the result to me
Leav. of Pensions
Yours &c John S. Edwards

State of New York Cortland County ss }
John Collyer of the town of Noble Cortland County and State of New York being duly sworn deposes and says that he this deponent lived in the town of Coxsackie in the county of Green and State aforesaid from his birth up to the year 1802 or 1803 That this deponent was well acquainted with John Clut from his earliest remem- brance up to the time he removed from Green County to Cortland County in one of the years aforesaid and has seen him the said John Clut several times since his this deponent removal to this county And this deponent further says that the said John Clut was enrolled as a Minute man in the year 1775 under Capt Mindant Vanschaick Serene Brunk Silvester and Solihiam Dyon Insign and this deponent knew the said John Clut to serve in the capacity of Minuteman Standing Guard and going out frequently on Scouting parties and this deponent was with the said John Clut on such scout once himself up to the time of the Surrender of Gen Burgoyne in 1777 And this deponent has no distinct recollection whether the said John Clut served after that or not and further this deponent says not
Subscribed and sworn this 31. day of October 1852 before me
John his Collyer mark
John R Earl } Justice of the Peace The deponent cannot write his name in consequence of infirmity John R Earl Justice

STATE OF NEW YORK, CORTLAND COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE. } ss.
I, RUFUS A. REED, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that John B. Earle, Esq. before whom the annexed instrument was proven or acknowledged, was at the time of taking such proof or acknowledgment, a Justice of the Peace in and for said County, and duly authorized to take the same. And further, that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of said Justice , and verily believe the signature to the said certificate, is genuine, and that the annexed instrument is executed and acknowledged in conformity to the laws of said State.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of said County this 1st day of November A. D. 1850.
Rufus A. Reed CLERK.