Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8,319, for John Engle Pool, Pennsylvania

SERVICE
Cenn.
Pool John Engle
NUMBER
R. 8319
CONTENTS
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V 34.466 Declaration of John E. Pool Ohio

Declaration Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress of the 7th of June 1832.
State of Ohio, County of Stark } ss.
On this 26th day of March 1838 personally appeared before
John E. Pool a resident in Hardy township in the county of Stark and State of Ohio aged Seventy Seven years, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provisions made by the act of Congress passed June 7th 1832 That he was draughted into the service of the United States as a militia man in the year one thousand seven hundred and seventy seven: and served as a soldier under the following named officers: Stephen Crumrine captain; Frederick Bingenman, ensign; officers of the company to which he belonged; Irvine General, and Daniel Utice colonel, and John Gouldy Lieut colonel. officers of the Pennsylvania Line: That when he was draughted he resided in Russamanner township, in the county of Berks and State of Pennsylvania; he went in to service and rendezvoused on the fifteenth day of July 1777, at the town of Reading and staid two or three weeks there, then was removed to Chester & lay there three or four weeks; and afterward was marched to Brandywine, Delaware, and was in the battle of the Brandywine; after the Battle this declarant marched through Chester to Pottsgrove, thence to Swamp meeting house, thence to a little town called The Trapp. Between Chestnut Hill and Wirkey Hicks he was in a skirmish with the

British, in which Gen. Irvine was wounded. Soon after, this declarant was in the battle of Germantown. In four or five days after the battle, he was discharged by Col. D. Utree, which discharge he has lost. He served three months before his discharge. That afterward while residing in Oley township in the said county of Berks, Pa., he volunteered under Captain Joy a regular officer, as a private. His service was to make cannon balls, bombshells and grape shot, at the Furnace called Oley in said county of Berks, and served from the fifteenth of January 1778, to the eighteenth of June of the same year, five months, and was discharged and paid off by Captain Joy, which discharge he has lost. Therefore the whole time for which he claims pension is eight months. This Declarant was born on the twentieth of March in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and sixty one, in Ruscamanner township in the county of Berks aforesaid. After the war of the Revolution, he lived six months at Gloucester Co. N.J. thence he went to Philadelphia & lived there two years; thence he went to Deep river N.C. & lived there eight months afterward he went to South Carolina; and thence to the county of Rockingham Va., and lived there six years; thence to the South Branch of the Potomac & lived there four years; thence he removed to the county of Fayette Pa. & lived there fourteen years, and in 1810, he came to New Lisbon in the county of Columbiana, Ohio, and in 1815 he came to Sandy township in the county of Stark Ohio where he now lives and where he has since lived. (His name stood on the Roll "Eagle Post" for shortness & because another John Pogl in the same company.) He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency of any State, or if any only on that

of the Agency of Pennsylvania Sworn to and subscribed the day and year afore said. John E Pool
We Jehu Brown a Clergyman residing in the said township of Sandy, Stark County, and James Creighton residing in the same, hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John E Pool who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be Seventy Seven years that he is reputed and believed in the neighbor- hood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid Jehu Brown James Creighton
And I Eli Sowers one of the Associate Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Stark aforesaid do hereby declare my opinion after the investigation of the matter and putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department that the above named applica- nt was a revolutionary soldier and served as he states; that he does not appear in open court in consequence of his infirmities. And I further certify that it appears to me that Jehu Brown who has signed the preceding certificate is a Clergyman resident in said Sandy township that James Creighton who has also signed the same is a resident in the same township and is a credible person and that their statement is entitled to credit
Eli Sowers Associate Judge

The State of Ohio Stark County ss 3
I Warman Snidger Clerk of the court of Common Pleas of the county of Stark aforesaid, do hereby certify that the said Eli Sowers is a Judge of the court of Common Pleas of the said county of Stark which is a court of Record and that the name Signature annexed to his certificate is a genuine Sig- nature.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of office this 20th day of March 1838 Warman Snidger Clerk

Rev. and 1812 Wars Section.
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May 19, 1927
Mrs. Laura B. Eckley 9512 Gaylord Ave Cleveland, Ohio
Madam:
I have to advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim R. 8319, it appears that John E. Poole (he stated that his name was on the roll Engle Pool) was born March 30, 1761 at Ruscamanner Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania.
He applied for pension March 26, 1838, while a resident of Sandy Township, Stark County, Ohio, and stated that while living at Ruscamanner Township, Pennsylvania, he enlisted July 15, 1777 and served three months in Captain Stephen Crumrine's Company, Colonel Daniel Utree's Pennsylvania Regiment, and was in the battles of Brandywine and Germantown; and while residing at Oley Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania, he was employed from January 15, 1778 until June 18, 1778,

under Captain Joy, at the furnace there in making cannon balls, bomb shells and grape shot.
The claim was not allowed, as he did not serve six months in a military capacity, as required by the pension law.
In 1855, it is stated that he died "some twelve years ago" in Wheeling, and that he had children living in Ohio and Indiana, no names are mentioned, and there is no further data on file as to family.
There is no provision of law that would entitle the descendants of soldiers of the Revolution to a pension.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT Commissioner.

V 34,466 John E. Pool Ohio.
Rejected
let. Shelby 1838 A. Forstall Hon J. Kirtland Dec 29 1838
did not serve six months in a military capacity.
8319
Reg - act 7th June 1832

[Handwritten signature or mark]

Data
John E Pool. } Born in John Pool } Pennsylvania 1858.
Served in Battle of Brandywine under Captain Crabtree — and General Lafayette; was afterwards detailed to cast shell as he was an expert moulder.
Removed to Ohio & finally to Wheeling West Va. where he died in '44 and was buried with military honors.

Oct. 25/97. Mrs. J. Sumner Stone, New York City. 1927. May 19. Hish to Mrs. Laura B. Echiley aux.
REJECTED
5319.
P. O. _____
John D. Pool
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
The printed list of 1852 shows reasons for rejection
Alleges: _____
"not military service"
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

Cleveland.O. April 28-1927
United States Government Department of the Interior Pension Department.
Washington D C.
Dear Sir:
I am writing in the interests of one Laura B Eckley Great Grand Daughter of John Poole who was born 1761 and died 1843. to be used in connection of admission into Daughters of the American Revolution.
This man entered the American Army and was assigned to duty of casting shells. He is supposed to have belonged to the (5th V.R) W D 120.1 and also to the (3 and 7th V.R.) W D 303.1.
I am informed that these records may be found in Vol No 43187-49390 Virginia War Records compiled by Virginia State Library Board.
There was some correspondence sent out by the Government some time ago addressed to John Poole or his heirs and it pertained to something that was due this man in some way, will you please advise if this man was on the pension list prior to his death and can you give the number of his policy, also if there is any record of an effort having been made to locate him in regards to money or other things being due him.
Also kindly advise what record is on file regarding his connection with the aforementioned regiments during the REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
Yours very truly,
Mrs Laura B Eckley
9512 Gaylord Ave Cleveland.O.
{John E. Poole}
R8319
Pa-

Hon L. Kidwell
Dec 29/55

Pension Office Dec 29 1855
Sir
I have the honor to return the letter of Mr Nelson and to inform you that John E Pool of Ohio claimed a pension for 8 months service rendered in Pennsylvania during the war of the Revolution. His claim was disallowed because he furnished no evidence that he ever served a day, also because it was not believed that the larger portion of the service claimed was of the character contemplated by the framers of the Pension laws, and that he was consequently not entitled to a pension if he had proved his allegations. If his children can succeed in proving the service for which the pension was claimed a pension will be allowed. This can only be done by the Records in the Office of the Auditor General of Pensions. If his Rolls do not contain the desired evidence it will be useless to attempt the prosecution of the case.
1832/
Hon Z McDucle Hoy Reps

A. Portuel
May 16, 1838
Ohio

War Dept. Pen. Offic May 16. 1838
Sir,
The declaration of John E. Pool has been examined. He alleges to have been drafted to serve as a militiaman of Pennsylvania in July 1777, and served three months, and in January 1778 he to have volunteered under Captain Fry and was employed in making cannon balls, &c. until June following. The last alleged service was not of that character provided for by the act of 7 June 1832 which requires  at least six months . That act provides for men who did not perform at least six months service under military obligations. The claim has therefore been rejected and the paper filed in this office.
A. Northwell Esq. Canton. Ohio.
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Ohio , or (Va. 1832)
In o E. Paal
inquiring whether he received Rev. sumner — answer & Return letter to —
{ Cole
Hon. J. Vidwell W. Ripley

Whiting Dec. 22. 1855.
Dear Sir.
John E. Pool who was a private at the battle of Brandywine in 1777. and who is supposed to have continued in the service of the U. S. thence to the end of the War. made application to the War Department for a pension, some 20 or 25 years ago, as I am informed. He then lived in Stark Co. O. He afterwards removed hither & died here some 12 years ago.
The old soldier never rec d any pension in his life time. But he had a large family. Some of his children living in Ohio. Indiana &c. and one of them lives here; and it is suspected that some of them may have recently recovered the pension, (or a part of it,) to which their father was entitled. Will you do me the favor to enquire whether a pension

has ever been allowed to sell Pool, or to any, and if to any, to which of his heirs; and such particulars in regard to it, as may be of inter- est to such of his heirs as have recd. no part of it?
I see from the papers that up to yesterday, no organization of your House had been expected.
Yrs truly
M. Nelson

4 1/2 O. M. 1842 W. Allison John E. Post Ohio Act 18 of Commissioner Washington City D.C.
James L. Edwards

O. Canton, March 26 th 1838
James L. Edwards Commissioner of Pensions
Sir, Enclosed I send you the Declaration of John E. Pool, a poor inform, soldier of the Revolution. Pittsburgh would be the most convenient place from to be paid the pension. An early and favorable attention to this application will be gratefully acknowledged by a poor soldier
Respectfully &c.
A. Southwell