Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 15954, for Robert Pace, Virginia

SERVICE
Va.
Pace, Robert
NUMBER
S. 15954
carded
CONTENTS

2349
Virginia
Simon Page of Page in the State of VA who was a ser in the comman by Captain of the  comman by Col. Fanning in the line line for Service
Inscribed on the Roll of Virginia at the rate of 23 Dollars 66 Cents per annum to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 7 day of Feb and in  the  Act 1831
Arrears to the 4th of March  1831  23  66 Semi-ant. allowance ending March  1831  23  66 $ 79.95
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832.
Recorded by J. Rice Clerk Book C Vol. 6 Page 25.

Robert Pace
Virginia
No 11980
Admiral as a general, 8 mo. $211 1.1
4. 5. 11
May 9. 1833
P. 387
M. M. C.
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Wm. Wadsworth Goodland C.H. Va.

BRIEF in the case of Robert Pace of Goochland County in the State of Virginia (Act 7th June, 1832.)
 1. Was the declaration made before a Court or a Judge? Court  2. If before a Judge, does it appear that the applicant is disabled by bodily infirmity?  3. How old is he? 69 Years  4. State his service, as directed in the form annexed. 
   Period. Duration of Service. Rank. Names of General and Field Officers under whom he served.   Years, Months, Days.     June 17 In 1780 Annapolis — 4 13 Private Gen. Stevens Cols. Glynne & Nichol Major Morris, Capt. Card   May 1781 " about 1 — " Col. Fleming Capt. Red Smith   Spring 1781 - "about 1 " " Capt. Richardson   Sept 1781 "one & 1/2 months at least" thinks he was in actual service at least 8 months" "  
 5. In what battles was he engaged? None.  6. Where did he reside when he entered the service? Goochland Co. Va.  7. Is his statement supported by living witnesses, by documentary proof, by traditional evidence, by incidental evidence, or by the rolls? There living witnesses in part & traditional  8. Are the papers defective as to form or authentication? and if so, in what respect? Correct 
X Certify that the foregoing statement and the answers agree with the evidence in the case above mentioned.
C. Little Examining Clerk.

State of Virginia County of Goochland 35.
On this 17 th day of September 1832 personally appeared in open court before the
justices of the peace, the court of Goochland County, now sitting, Robert Pace, a resident of the county of Goochland and State of Virginia aged sixty nine years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832.
That he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers, and served as herein stated.
I was drafted in the Militia the 19 th day of June 1780 in the county of Goochland where I then resided & marched to Hillsborough in North Carolina under the command of Major Morris, Capt. Carr, Lieutenants Sledge & Roberts and ensign Bradshaw, when we arrived at Hillsborough we joined the 4 th Regiment under the command of General Stephens, Colonels Glenn & Nicholas: we continued there until about the 1 st of August 1780; we marched from thence to near Camden where we engaged in a battle, under General Gates commander in chief, was defeated: after the battle I fell in with General Stephens & marched back to Hillsborough where the men deserted leaving only about a dozen in our company: we marched from thence to a place called New Garden and continued there a while, thence to a place called Woyen creek; thence to Guilford Courthouse & continued there until the last day of October 1780, where we were discharged from the army. — In the month of January 1781 I was called into service again and marched from Major Morris in the lower end of Goochland county to different points on James River below Richmond, & stationed principally at Cabin Point, as certified by Stephen Johnson where we were discharged. — I was called out again in the early part of the Spring of 1781 and marched below Richmond to different points on James River under the command of Capt. Richardson of Henrico County, who commanded a company of Infantry, and watched the movement of the enemy, and fired on one of their vessels in the River. we continued in

Service at this time about one month as well as I can recollect. — I was called out again the same year 1791 in the month of September, and continued in service being at the siege of York, till the surrender of Cornwallis and marched as guard of the prisoners to Newbedford where I was discharged. I received a written discharge at some place, the place I don't certainly recalled what I have lost. — I have such an imperfect recollection of the length of the different tours that I can't say positively how long I was in service, but I think I was in actual service at least eight months. I have no documentary evidence. — I have no knowledge of any living person that can testify as to my services, except John Clements is  was  at  the  time  of  my  service and is  now  in  the  service  of  the  state  of  Massachusetts . As  to  the  fact  of  my  service Archibald Warden & Stephen Johnson taken before justices of the peace in Middlesex County thereat present, not being able to procure the attendance of the witnesses before the Court.
I hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declare that my name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State.
Sworn to, and subscribed, the day and year aforesaid
Valien Bas
We Archibald Bruce jun r and Edmund George
residing in the County of Goodland hereby certify that was well acquainted with one neighbor Robert Pease who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that he believes him to be sixty nine years of age; that he is is reported and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Arch Brycien Eam d Gueyge

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15954 INVALID.
File No. 15954
First Page
for Free War
Act: June 7 th 32
Index: — Vol. 1 , Page 225
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1925- Aug. 21- Photos of 3 pages from telegraphic mailed to Mary A. Ferris- (MISS) - a letter of hers written Aug. 10-1925 enclosing $7.05 for these pages & from other claims mailed in the Bureau letter of her of Aug. 2-1925, was sent to Record Div. for reply to an inquiry about a social security Ref. 71812.

Robert Pace opa
John M. Cutchin Washington City
Robert Pace

State of Virginia } Goochland County } ss
Personally appeared before me the undersigned a Justice of the peace in and for the county aforesaid Robert Pace who being duly sworn, deposeth (and saith, that by reason of old age (and the consequent loss of Memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service), but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades: For eight months I served as private in the infantry, and for such service I claim a pension.
Robert Pace
Subscribed and sworn to this 18 th day of July 1853 before me
Julian Kean J.P.
State of Virginia } Goochland County } ss
I William Miller Clerk of the County Court of the said County, do hereby certify that Julian Kean, before whom the foregoing Affidavit of Robert Pace was made, and whose signature is annexed thereto, is an acting Justice of the peace in the said County, and that his signature aforesaid is genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office, this Eighteenth day of July One thousand eight hundred & thirty three.
William Miller

And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states
And the Court further certify that it appears to them that the said applicant could not with reasonable convenience produce a Clergyman in open Court to make the usual Certificate, and that Archibald Bryson and Edmund George are persons residing in the said County and are credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit
I William Miller Clerk of the Court of the County of Goodland do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Robert Pae for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office this first day of October One thousand eight hundred and thirty two
Will Miller C lk

W. Miller Virginia Rockland County ss.
I William Miller Clerk of the County Court of the said County, do hereby certify that John Ware before whom the affidavits of Arthur Thurston and Stephen Johnson were made, and William A Ford before whom the affidavit of John Clements was made (all which Affidavits are hereto annexed) and whose signatures are annexed thereto, are two of the acting Justices of the peace in the said County, and that their signatures aforesaid are genuine —
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of Office this first day of October, One thousand eight hundred and thirty two
Will. Miller, Clk
Robt. Sane
11/9/32

Goochland County to Wit
This is to certify that Archer Thurston of lawful age personally appeared before me and made oath that he was a soldier in the revolution, and in service at Hillsborough town North Carolina, and that he was well acquainted with Robert Pace, and he the said Robert was a neighbour to him, and went into service at the same time with him, and he the said Pace was with him at Hillsborough town, and also near Camden South Carolina, how long he the said Robert Pace served as a soldier he does not remember - I also certify that Archer Thurston is a man of good character, given under my hand this 8th day of Sept. 1832.
Jno. Ware J.P.
Goochland County to Wit: This is to certify that Stephen Johnson of lawful age personally appeared before me and made oath that in and about the year 1781, in the early part of the year, as well as he recollects that he was called on to go into the service during the revolutionary war, and Robert Pace his neighbour and acquaintance went with him, and he the said Robert Pace remained in service in and about one month, as well as he remembers, that they were principally stationed at Cabin point - and the officers that he the said Robert Pace served under were Capt. Neal Smith, the subaltern officers he does not now remember at this time, he further states that Charles Fleming was the Colonel, given under my hand this 10th day of Sept. 1832, and I also certify that Stephen Johnson is a man of good character and standing.
Jno. Ware J.P.
Goochland County to Wit
This is to certify that John Clements appeared before me a justice of the peace for said county and made oath that he and his neighbour Robert Pace were called on in service as a Militia Soldier under Capt. Duke during the revolutionary war, and that Robert Pace was at York Town when Lord Cornwallis surrendered, and that Robert Pace was with him at Winchester to guard the prisoners of war and that he continued with Robert Pace for one and a half months at the least. Given under my hand this 13th Sept. 1832.
I also certify that Robert Pace John Clements is entitled to the utmost confidence for truth & veracity
J. Ford

BRIEF objections to the admission of Pension Claims, of which those answered in the negative, in red ink, will apply to the claim of Robert Pace which require further proof or explanation.
I. Does the declaration show where the applicant resides? yes, II. Did the declarant make the declaration in the county where he resides? yes, III. If the applicant did not make the declaration in the county where he resides, is there any reason assigned for his not doing so? IV. Has the declarant mentioned the period or periods of the war when he served? NO V. * Has he mentioned with precision the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled? NO VI. Has he given the names of the officers under whom he served, in conformity with the regulations? yes VII. Has he made a relinquishment of every claim to any other pension than the one under the Act of June 7, 1832? yes VIII. Has the Court given their opinion? yes IX. Has the Clerk given his certificate? yes X. Is the Clerk's seal affixed? And if so, has it a device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal? yes

XI. Has the applicant obtained the evidence of a clergyman and another respectable citizen as to their belief respecting his age and the general belief in his neighborhood relative to his revolutionary service? no
XII. If the clergyman's affidavit has not been produced, is there any reason assigned for not obtaining it? yes
XIII. If the applicant has no documentary evidence, and has not obtained the testimony of at least one living witness, has he stated in his declaration that such proof cannot be had? three living witnesses
XIV. † If the applicant's name is not found on the rolls of military service, has he produced a witness or witnesses as to his service? —
If he has produced direct proof as to service, has the magistrate who administered the oath, certified to the credibility of the witness or witnesses? yes
Has the proper officer certified to the official character and signature of the magistrate as the regulations direct? yes
XV. Does it appear from any of the papers that the witness was in such a situation, or of such an age, as to have a personal knowledge of the applicant's service? yes
XVI. ‡ Are the papers authenticated as the regulations direct? yes
XVII. Are the seven interrogatories prescribed by the War Department answered satisfactorily? And, if not, which of them is not so answered? yes
EXPLANATORY NOTES.
* QUERE V. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words: "Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service, but according to the best of his recollection he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades; For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."

It is important in all cases to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours; the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must in every case be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
QUERE XIV. Proof of Service.
In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses, who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimants entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
QUERE XVI. Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other paper authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
In every case where the clerk of the court, or other certifying officer, has no public seal of office, the certificate of a member of congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.

3-2006 OFFICE OF CHIEF CLERK
Job No. _____ Date Aug 14, 20 - Subject Robert Pace. Red S 15-924 1 copies of 2 pieces consisting of 3 pages to be (No.) (No.) (No.) forwarded when completed to the Ret. & Surv. Div.
Remarks: _____
Approved: _____
W. B. Wilson Chief Tech
Chief Clerk.
Chief Finance Div.
W. B. L.
Finance Div. Aug 21 - 1928

3-2233
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BUREAU OF PENSIONS
Finance Division
Aug. 12, 1925
Chief Rev. Sec. Division.
I have this day received from Mary N. Ferru No. 110903 for $7.25, requesting
photostat copy post-office address as per letter herewith.
Handwritten: Copies mailed Finance Div. mfd. Aug. 21-1925
Chief Finance Div. 266 L
Handwritten circled numbers 8, 9, 0

Chicago Ill. July 11/25
Mr Hays Haymaker Dept. of Interior Bureau of Pensions
Dear Sir
I find certain records referred to which I desire photo- stat copies of and need therefore to know how many pages there are in each case.
 (a) + Margaret John Pace served in the Revolution from Virginia, and received a pension (according to the "Secy. of War's Report for 1835. Pen. 3, Ky. 117" (according to page 232 of the 9th Annual Report of the Lib. Bd. of Va State Lib. 1913)) + Frances W 3586. 12 p.  (b) Jesse Pace (Goochland) Secy. of War's Report 1835. Pen. 2, 63." + Mary W 4305- 6 p.  (c) Newsum Pace (Henry) Secy of War's Report 1835. Pen 2, 154" W 5496. 11 p.  (d) Robert Pace (Goochland) Secy of War's Report. 1835; Pen 2, 1413 S 15954 - 3 p.  (e) William Pace. Comm. - in Chps Gd. 222 "Rejected Claims." W 5- Ms indy to a collection of loose manuscript applica- tions for land bounty grants, rejected by the governor ." (Is it possible to get a copy of the full application and its accessory documents?) W 15773 Mary (for Plymouth N.H.) 15 p.  (f) Also the pension of Nicholas Hall, Revolutionary War  (g) Pension Claim W. 15773 and of Naomi Caleb Johnson of Middletown Conn., being No. W. 26802. I Thank you W. 26802. 17 p. 12 W. Delaware Place. Mary Wallon Ferris 

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UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR BUREAU OF PENSIONS WASHINGTON
August 3, 1925.
Mary Walton Ferris 12 West Delaware Place, Chicago, Ills.
Madam:
I have to advise you, that if you wish photostat copies of papers in the following Revolutionary War pension claims, the same will be furnished you, under the provisions of the Act of August 24, 1912, at the rate of fifteen cents a page, with twenty-five cents extra for certification, if that is desired, in each claim.
In the claim, W. 3586 of John Pace and his widow Margaret, the number of pages to be copied is twelve.
In the claim, W. 4305 of Jesse Pace and his widow Frances, the number of pages to be copied is six.
In the claim, W. 5496 of Merson Pace and his widow Mary, the number of pages to be copied is eleven.
In the claim, S. 18254 of Robert Pace, the number of pages to be copied is three.
In the claim, W. 18773 of Nicholas Hall and his widow Mary, the number of pages to be copied is fifteen.
In the claim, W. 80002 of Caleb Johnson and his widow Naomi, the number of pages to be copied is seventeen.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this Bureau, by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior. Please return this letter with your reply.
1.80 .90 1.65 .45 2.25 7.05
not under cost to be sent by mail

A careful search of the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau fails to show a claim for pension or bounty land on file on account of the services of any soldier named William Pace.
Inasmuch as your letter stated that his land bounty application was "rejected by the governor ", it suggested that you consult the archives of the State, whose governor rejected the claim.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section.
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August 3, 1925.
Mary Walton Ferris 13 West Delaware Place, Chicago, Ills.
Madam:
I have to advise you, that if you wish photostat copies of papers in the following Revolutionary War pension claim, the same will be furnished you, under the provisions of the Act of August 24, 1912, at the rate of fifteen cents a page, with twenty-five cents extra for certification, if that is desired, in each claim.
In the claim, W. 3586 of John Pace and his widow Margaret, the number of pages to be copied is twelve.
In the claim, W. 4305 of Jesse Pace and his widow Frances, the number of pages to be copied is six.
In the claim, W. 5496 of Newsum Pace and his widow Mary, the number of pages to be copied is eleven.
In the claim, S. 15954 of Robert Pace, the number of pages to be copied is three.
In the claim, W. 15773 of Nicholas Hall and his widow Mary, the number of pages to be copied is fifteen.
In the claim, W. 26802 of Caleb Johnson and his widow Naomi, the number of pages to be copied is seventeen.
The proper amount should be forwarded to this Bureau, by money order drawn to the order of the Secretary of the Interior. Please return this letter with your reply.

A careful search of the Revolutionary War records of this Bureau fails to show a claim for pension or bounty land on file on account of the services of any soldier named William Pace.
Inasmuch as your letter stated that his land bounty application was " rejected by the governor ", it suggested that you consult the archives of the State, whose governor rejected the claim.
Respectfully,
WINFIELD SCOTT, Commissioner.