Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 7290, for Thomas Payne, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va.
Payne, Thomas
S. 7290
CONTENTS
Boarded

12.622  North Carolina Thomas Payne of Buncombe in the State of North Car. who was a pri. in the _____ commanded by Captain _____ of the Regt. commanded by Col. Dabney in the Virginia line for 6 months & 12 days
N. Carolina
Inscribed on the Roll of North Car. at the rate of 21 Dollars 33 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 14 day of May '33 and sent Hon. S. P. Con- =son, Pleasant Garden. N.C.
Arrears to the 4th of March '33 - 42.66 Semi-ant. allowance ending 4 Sept " - 10.66 1/2 $52.32 1/2
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June, 7, 1832. }
Recorded by William Miller Clerk, Book E. Vol. 6. Page 57
Letter to Hon. S. P. Marti & Com to Pen Age. 18 June To Kentucky, France 4th Sep 1845. 26 June 1846. M =cation to Hon. S. P. House of Reps.
Transfer bid sent Aug 1. to Pen Asheville. N.C. cu to Supt Nov 1849
To N. Carolina Gen. War Nov 16, 1849.
To Asheville 4 Sept 1851 No to Supt 16 March 53
Let to New F.L. Com, June 19 June 57
J. Gudgeon Mitchell 1854

State of Kentucky } ss Laurel County } -
On this 5 th day of June 1846: before me the Subscriber a justice of the peace for the said county of Laurel personally appeared Thomas Payne who on his oath declares that he is the same person who formerly belonged to the company commanded by captain Naysb in the regiment commanded by colonel Dabney in the service of the united States that his name was placed on the pension roll of the State of North Carolina from whence he has lately removed that he now resides in the State of Kentucky Laurel County where he to remain intends, and wishes his pension to be there payable in future The followings are his reasons for removing from the State of North Carolina to the State of Kentucky a part of his family being anxious to remove to the State of Kentucky and for the purpose of gratifying them he removed with them - sworn and subscribed to before me the day and year aforesaid Thomas Payne J Jackson JP
This day personally appeared Edward Teague before the undersigned a justice of the peace for the county of Laurel and made oath that he is now personally acquainted with the a fore named Thomas Payne and that he is the identical person who he represents himself to be in the above affidavit sworn to and subscribed this 5 th day of June 1846 J Jackson JP his mark Edward Teague

J. L. Jackson a Justice of the Peace in and for the county of Laurel do certify that from the short acquaintance with Edward Trogue I believe him to be a man of veracity
Given under my hand the 5 th day June 1846
J. L. Jackson JP
State of Kentucky Laurel County B. S.
William H. Randall Clerk of the County Court of the County aforesaid do certify that J. L. Jackson is a Magistrate as above mentioned and that the foregoing certificate purporting to be his is genuine
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed my seal of office. Given under my hand this 8 th day of June 1846 W. H. Randall Clerk

State of N o Carolina & Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions January term 1833 Buncombe County On this 10 th day of January 1833 personally appeared in open Court Before the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of Buncombe County State of North Carolina now Silas Thomas Resident of Said County and States his age 70 years as he believes who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the Benefit of the act of Congress passed June the 7 th 1832 to wit, That he was born in the State of Virginia in Spotts ylvania County in the year 1763 as he believes his parents lived there until he was about 12 years old then moved in to Orange County lived there until advancing on his 17 th year of his age & in the winter of that year of his age was drafted for what length of time not now recollects was marched to Fredericksburg remained there about three weeks under the command of Captain Graves commanded by General Woden & Major Bradford & was discharged there by General Woden after a term of service of one month as near as he recollects, 2 nd term he went as a substitute in place of Jesse Robertson under the command of Captain Hance of Louisa County in the State of Virginia marched to headquarters near Richmond was placed under the command of General De Markes & Col. Dabney was in Richmond when the British entered a little town on the South Side of James River call it that time Rocky Ridge after that I was discharged at Shock o hill near Richmond having served two months the full term for which he engaged as a substitute he discharged was handed to him by his Captain but does not know by whom it was signed In about two weeks after entered the service again as a Substitute in the place George Vian at Brooks Bridge on Pamunkey River under the command of Captain Harris commanded as before by General De Markes & Col. Dabney served a term of six weeks during which time we were joined by General Wayne & his army marched to James town there had an engagement with the British after the Battle of James town was discharged near that place having served a term of six weeks fourth term that he was drafted for two months & put under the command of Captain George Haws & marched down from Orange County to a place called Gloucester opposite Little York remained there under the command of General Woden during the Siege of Cornwallis and until the Surrender of his army to the American forces his term of two months for which he was drafted being out on the same day that the Surrender of Wallas army but that he refused to be discharged but remained three days longer in order to help the men & see the prisoners having

under the Command of General Woden during the siege of Richmond  turned of his army to the American forces his term of two months for which he was drafted Being out on the same day that the Surrender of Wallace's army but that he refused to be discharged but remained three days longer in order to drop the Rebel & see the prisoners having been kept on the ghosted side of the River during the whole of the siege was again discharged and went to my home in Orange County Virginia remained there a few months and moved to  the Rowan County North Carolina lived there about 12 years then moved to Burke County North Carolina lived there 7 years and moved to Buncombe County North Carolina where I have lived ever since States that he served six months and one half in all  I hereby I hereby declare that he has long since lost his discharge, and further states that he never received any Commission but served as a private and further states that he has no documentary evidence to prove his service nor of any person in this State by whom he could prove his services
Thereby denying I hereby deny claim to any pension or annuity except the present one and declare that my name is not on the Pension roll of the State or agency of any State I appeal to the Honourable Justice of the Court now sitting to testify as to my character and standing as a Revolutionary soldier & to my neighbours Rev. Freeman Freeman Clergyman & James Judger Clergyman in my neighbourhood
Thomas Payne
We Rev. Freeman Clergyman and James Judger Clergyman residing in the neighbourhood of Thomas Payne do testify that he is a credible witness & that we believe him to be the age he states and that he is reported in his neighbourhood to be a soldier of the Revolution and we concur in that belief
Moses Freeman James Judger

State of North Carolina Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions Brunswick County 3 1833
The Court after examining several statements and propounding the questions prescribed by the War Department do hereby declare their opinion that the said Thomas Paine was a revolutionary and that he served as an officer in the United States. They further declare that it appears to them that Moses Freeman is a gentleman residing in the neighborhood of the said Thomas Paine in the State and County aforesaid and that James Gudgeon who has also signed the said certificate is a credible person residing in the same State and County and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I John Miller clerk of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of the said Court do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Thomas Paine for a Pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office this 12th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty two and of the Am. Independence 57.
John Miller Clerk

Thomas Payne N. Ca.
Admit as a private for six months and twelve days p 21. 33
S. H. Hays

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Thomas Payne
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1780 drafted 1 Pri Maj. Bradford 70 years   sub. 2 " Col. Labney Orange Co.   " 1 12 " " " Pa. Traditionary   draft 2 "   6 12  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d), with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing, contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? { To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

October 16, 1939.
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Mrs. John Gage 912 - 19 th Street N. W. Washington, D. C.
BA-J/adj Thomas Payne S.7290
Dear Madam:
The data contained herein were obtained from the papers on file in the Revolutionary War claim for pension, S.7290, based upon the military service in that war of Thomas Payne.
Thomas Payne, the name is also shown as Paine, was born in Spotsylvania County, Virginia, in 1763, month, day, and the names of his parents are not given. When about twelve years old he moved with his parents to Orange County, Virginia.
While a resident of Orange County, Virginia, Thomas Payne enlisted in the winter when he was approaching his seventeenth birthday, and served one month as private in Captain Graves' Virginia Company. He then enlisted and served two months as private in Captain Yancey's Company, Colonel Dabney's Virginia Regiment. Two weeks after this service he enlisted, served six weeks as private in Captain Harris' Company, Colonel Dabney's Virginia Regiment and was in the battle of Jamestown. He then enlisted and served two months as private in Captain George Waugh's Company, Colonel Dabney's Virginia Regiment.
After his service he moved to Rowan County, North Carolina, about twelve years later he moved to Burke County, North Carolina, and seven years later he moved to Buncombe County, North Carolina.
He was allowed pension on his application executed January 10, 1833, at which time he was a resident of Buncombe County, North Carolina.
He moved to Laurel County, Kentucky, in 1846, and returned to Buncombe County, North Carolina, in 1848.
In 1849, one A. L. Paine witnessed the signature

of soldier, in Buncombe County, North Carolina, his age and relationship not stated. There are no further family data.
In order to obtain the date of last payment of pension, the name of person paid and possibly the death date of soldier you should apply to the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D. C., and cite the following data: "Thomas Payne, Certificate No. 12622, issued May 14, 1833, rate $21.33 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act of June 7, 1832, North Carolina Agency".
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator

June 26 46
Mr Eddy
H
Fanny L Edwards Esq. Commissaire of Pensions Washington.

Custom Office New Mitchell June 22 nd 1826
Sammy L Edwards Esq Commissioner of Customs Sir
Thomas Payn a prisoner under the Act of June 7 th 1832 — at the rate of $21 33 per Ann. was last paid to the 4 th of Sept. 1845.
I am Sir, respectfully your Obedient Servant J. M. [unclear]

London Ky Jan 9.
Free
Rev. John P. Martin Washington City D.C.

Laurel County Ky. June 8 th 46.
Dear Sir
I have inclosed the application of Mr. Thos. Payne for a transfer of his pension from the state of North Carolina to Louisville Kentucky you will please to attend to it at the first opportunity and get his claim transferred in close the same to me at London
Hon Jno P. Morton House Representatives
Yours with Respect L Dockson

Mr. Ross
Please attend to within 4 and send a line & oblige yours respectfully John P. Martin from the
London Ky Jan 9.
Free
Rev John P. Martin Washington City D.C.

Treasury Department,
SECOND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE,
May 18, 1854.
Sir:
Under the act of the 6th of April, 1838, entitled "An Act directing the transfer of money remaining unclaimed by certain Pensioners, and authorizing the payment of the same at the Treasury of the United States;" and the third section of the Act of August 23, 1842, extending the time within which Pensioners may receive their pensions from the Pension Agents,
Thomas Payne
" Pensioner on the Roll of the Asheville N.C. Agency, at the rate of twenty one Dollars and 33 Cents per annum under the law of the 7 th June 1832, has been paid at this Department, from the 11 th of Sept r 1851, to the 11 th March 1853.
Respectfully, yours,
12622 Ky J. M. Brohead Comptroller.
To the COMMISSIONER OF PENSIONS, Present.

Pension Office, Washington D.C. March 11/1853
Sir,
You will please request the enrolment of Mr Thomas Payne, a Pensioner for act of 7th June 1832. from 4th day of September 1851. at $21.33. per Annum, to Col. J. S. E. Hamby, Asst. Adm. of Pensions, the Pensions issued in Davidson County of Maine. —
Very Respectfully Yours Affec. S r James M c Witt Ag t
To James E. Heath Esq. Chairman of Pension Washington City D.C.

Louisville, Ky. Nov 7 th 1849
J. L. Edwards Esq. D r Sir
Your communication of Nov 1 st was duly rec d . I find, upon an examination of the Roll of this agency, the name of Thomas Payne under the act of 7 th June, 1832, at the rate of $21 33 per annum; And that he has not been paid since the 4 th March 1847, up to which date he is marked as having been paid at this Agency -
Respectfully Your obt Serv t
M c R. Ward Pension Ag t

Ms. A. 9. 2. 22
J. J. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington City
b.l.a
Ms. A. 9. 2. 22 Ms. A. 9. 2. 22 New Haven

22 Oct. 1849
Asheville N.C.
Dr Sir enclosed you will find an application of Thomas Payne a person to have his claim as gains transferred from the agency of Kentucky to this state. who intends to make this state his home for the remainder of his days. I am not certain that the application is in form I saw the original certificate now in his possession and must say that it is correctly set out. in this his application you will please attend to it and if there should be any thing lacking and you have any blank please instruct me how to proceed.
I am Dr Sir
Yours most obed J. Blawyer
A. L. Edwards Esq.

Crops Road Buncombe County North Carolina 27 th Feb y 1852,
Dear Sir I have acted as agent for Thomas Payne of North Caro- lina a Pensioner of the Revolu- tion and obtained his pension at Fayetteville North Carolina on the 4 th September 1851 since that time the pay office was trans- ferred to Asheville North Carolina and the name of Thomas Payne was not transmitted to Asheville until since September last & I have applied since that time and am told that an act of Congress bars his claim unless directed to pay by the Commissioner of Pensions Please notice his case as he is a debt and needy claimant. L t Waldo Yours & James Judson

True T. L. Clingman
June 19th D. B.
M. L. D. Waldo from of Pensions City of Washington D. C.

Asheville Buncombe North Carolina
19 th April 1853
To the Commissioner of Pensions.
Dear Sir
An application for the pension of Thomas Payne at Fayetteville North Carolina our agent there John M c Rae informs us that the pay office is removed to Asheville Buncombe County N.C. and on application there the name of Thomas Payne is not to be found there you will be so good as to have his name transmitted to Asheville Yours &c.
James Grogan. for Thomas Payne
Sir
I hope that you will at once comply with the above request of Col. Grogan. From my knowledge of the parties I am satisfied that it ought to be done.
Respectfully
T. L. Clingman
Mr. J. Waldo son of Rev. Mr. Waldo

State of North Carolina Buncombe County } SS
on this 20 th day of October 1849 before me the subscriber a Justice of the peace for said County of Buncombe personally appeared Thomas Payne who on his oath declares that he is the same person formerly belong to the Company Commanded by Captain Davis & Harris & Wall in the Regiment Commanded by Colonel Dabney in the service of the United States that his name was placed on the pension Roll of the State of North Carolina from whence he has removed to the State of Kentucky Laurel County and there had his pension transferred and there made two draws from Louisville Ky Kentucky The last of which draw was up to the 4 th of March 1847 and has now removed back to North Carolina Buncombe County where he first drew his pension and that he now resides in the said State of North Carolina and County of Buncombe where he intends to Remain and wishes his pension to be therefore payable in future
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year above written before me J. Sharp J.P. A. L. Raines
Thomas Payne

State of North Carolina Buncombe County
I James Sharp a Justice of the peace in and for the County aforesaid do hereby certify that Thomas Payne who appeared before me this day who being duly sworn and subscribed to the foregoing Declaration is the identical Thomas Payne that some years past removed to the State of Kentucky and has a game moved back to North Carolina Buncombe County who has this day exhibited also certificate of which I certify the following is a true Copy
War Department
Revolutionary Claim
I certify that in conformity with the law of the United States of the 7 th June 1832 Thomas Payne of the State of North Carolina who was a private in the war of the Revolution is entitled to receive Twenty one dollars and thirty three cents per annum during his natural life commencing on the 4 th of March 1831 and payable semi annually on the 4 th of March and 4 th of September in every year.
Given at the War Office of the United States this 14 th day of May one thousand eight hundred and thirty three
Examined and Countersigned
J. S. Edwards
Commission of Pensions
Lewis Cass Secretary of War.
Certificate by me the 20 th of October 1849 also No on the back of the certificate
J. Sharp
12 622 S. M. Sharp 622 A. S. Payne

State of North Carolina, Buncombe County.
I Robert B Vance Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas & Quarter Sessions for Said County of Buncombe do hereby certify that James Sharp is a Justice of the Peace in and for Said County and that the annexed Certificate purporting to be his, is genuine and that he is entitled to full faith and Credit as such.
In Witness Whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of my Said Office done at office this 28 th of Oct. 1849 R.B. Vance clk.

Mr J L Edwards Esq PAID 10 Commissioner of Pensions
Washington City —

Asheville 12 th July 1848
Mr J L Edwards
Sir I have removed from Kentucky to North Carolina Buncombe County & request to be transferred to Fayetteville North Carolina for the receipt of my Pension yours Respectfully
Thomas Payne
8 B papers for me direct to Fayetteville Buncombe County North Carolina

H. K. RAMSEY
DEALER IN
DRY GOODS, NOTIONS AND GROCERIES
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R. F. D. No. 5 :: Marshall, N. C., Aug 5 1912
To Commissioner of Pensions Washington D. C.
Dear Sir
Did Thomas Payne ever apply for a Pension of Virginia? he was a Revolutionary Soldier so what was his Father and Mother's given names.
Yours Truly H. K. Ramsey.

Rev War
7290
INVALID.
File No. 7290
Thomas Payne
Rev War
Act: June 5th 82
Index:—Vol. 15 , Page 287
[Arrangement of 1870.]
1912, Aug. 9. History to H. R. Ramsey for
1920, Sept. 18 Hist. to Miss Dorothy Davis - EW
1939 Oct. 16 Hist. to Mrs. John Hagadorn

your request of _____, received of the military history of Thomas Payne the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion in this Bureau. S. F. 7290.
   DATE OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     * Winter of the year he was 17 years of age 1 mo. Pri. Graves ✓ Va.   ✓ 2 " Yancy Dabney   Two weeks later 6 wks. Harris Dabney   ✓ 2 mos. George Prangh. ✓  
Battles engaged in, ✓
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Orange Co. Va.
Date of application for pension, Jan. 10. 1833. Cl. ab.
Residence at date of application, Buncombe Co. N.C.
Age at date of application, B. 1763, Spottsylvania Co., Va.
Remarks: ✓ No further data.
Only Thomas Payne of Va. etc. etc. (Names of his father and mother are not stated) (In letter to H. N. Ramsey.)
(* Winter of 1780 - The name Randolph does not appear in the record of Noah Bailey or Thos. Payne (To miss Dorothy Davis) Ev.) Very respectfully,
Commissioner.

Oct. 13-1939
Veterans administration. Washington D.C.,
Dear Sir:
Please furnish the records of Rev. War soldiers John Johnston, Va. troops S. 1958; John McConnell, N.C. troops, W. 9193, and Thomas Payne, S. 7290, Va. Troops.
Very truly Yours,
Mrs John Lage 912-19 St. N.W. Washington, D.C.

Rev. 1-mt
Harriman, Tennessee, July 28, 1920.
Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:- Please send me all the records of your office contain regarding the following Revolutionary Pensioners;
Noah Bailey, Stokes Co. N. C., 1833, age 84. He served in the Virginia Militia.
Thomas Payne, Buncombe Co. N. C., 1833, age 71. He served in the Virginia Militia.
X Please be sure and advise whether any one named Randolph certified to the services of either of the above men. I want these records for a family history.
Yours very truly,
(Miss)
Dorothy Davis
402 Morgan Street.

October 16, 1939.
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Mrs. John Gage 912 - 19 th Street N. W. Washington, D. C.
BA-J/ady Thomas Payne S.7290 Am
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your personal request of October 13, 1939, for the Revolutionary War records of John Johnston, S.1958, John McConnell, W.9193, and Thomas Payne, S.7290.
Their records are furnished you herewith.
Very truly yours
A. D. HILLER Executive Assistant to the Administrator