Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 8469, for John Price, New York

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New York
Price, John
R. 8469
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23203 John Price, of the town of Fairfield, in the County of Herkimer, and State of New York -
Pension Papers " "
Under the act of Congress Passed June 7 th 1832 -
Edward C. Pinnig, of Little Falls, Herkimer County, and State of New York, Agent - for said Price - to whom all communications addressed -

State of New York
Herkimer County ss 3. On this 6th day May 1824
may 6, 1824 appeared in open Court
aged about 77 years near duly sworn
John Price enlisted during the war in the year 1776 - under Captain Jacob Sauer - Colonel Dayton
Oriskany Battle - Captain Sauer killed - put under Captain House
under Captain Damewood
personally appeared in open Court, to wit a Court of Common Pleas being a Court of Record for the County of Herkimer and Constituted as such by the laws and Statutes of said State
John Price aged about Seventy Seven years and a resident in the aforesaid County of Herkimer who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in Order to Obtain the provision made by the acts of Congress of the 18th of March 1818 and the first of May 1820, and the first of March 1823 that he the said John Price enlisted during the said war, in the year one thousand Seven hundred and Seventy Six but cannot tell what time in the year precisely, but that he enlisted in the State of New York in a company commanded by Captain Jacob Sauer of the Corps or regiment commanded by Colonel Dayton and that he served in the service of the United States until Oriskany Battle, at which time the said Jacob Sauer and Ebenezer Cox their Commandants were killed and after the Death of the said Jacob Sauer, he was placed under the Command of Captain Christian House and that he was under him in an engagement in the Town of Blaraine, in the County of Trien but now County of Montgomery On the Mohawk river with the Enemy and Indians and that Colonel Jacob Stock commanded the Regiment to which the said Company commanded by said Captain House belonged but that he cannot tell the Month or year in which it took place that some time afterwards he was transferred and placed under the Command of Capt. Mark Damewood who

(by Order of Col Vanscoick placed in a Mill took an oath)
commanded a Company called Rangers, and served some time in the last regiment, and that some time afterwards he was taken out of the service by Col. of Col Vanscoick and placed in a mill in the Town of Palatine as a Miller to grind the grain for the soldiers & inhabitants and took an oath at the time he was taken from the service and placed in the mill that he would be faithful as Miller and would do no injury whatsoever to flour and meal, & when he was so taken from the service no writing whatever was given to him, that he stayed in
in the Mill about 2 years
the Mill primarily for the Troops about two years, he then enlisted in a Captain Frenchs Company, his Christian Name he does not remember but he
Then enlisted under Capt French Col of the regiment killed at Stony Arabia
but he recollects that he was from some of the New England States, and was killed at the Stone Arabia Battle, that he cannot recollect all of the names of the officers he served under, but that he served during the whole of the war with Great Britain from the time of his enlistment until peace including the time that he was placed as a Miller as aforesaid in the said Mill at Palatine, and that he served on the Continental
Served the whole of the war
Establishment under different Colonels some of whom he cannot
Col Vanscoick & Gannett
remember he knows that part of the time he was commanded by Col. Vanscoick & some times by Col Gannett and other Col whom he cannot remember
no other evidence except his Brother
and that he has no other evidences now in his power of his said services except, the affidavits herunto annexed
Citizen of U. States
And in pursuance of the act of the first of May 1820 I do solemnly swear that I was a resident Citizen of the United States On the 18th day of March 1818 And that I have not since that time by Gift or Sale or in any manner disposed of my property or any part

thereof, with intent thereby so to diminish it as to bring Myself within the provisions of an act of Congress Entitled "an act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war" passed on the 18th March 1818 and that I have not nor has any person in trust for me, any property or securities contracts, or debts due me Nor have I any income other than what is contain- ed in the Schedule hereto annexed & by me subscribed — no real Estate. personal property as follows —
  One Cow worth $10 - 00   2 Sheep 2 - 00   3 pigs 10 50 -   One bed and bedding 10 - 00   Kitchen furniture worth about 5 - 00 -   $38 " 50 
One suit of clothes for myself One D r for my wife both suits but common clothing
I have a wife aged Sixty One year old last march, not very healthy and unable to do any kind of hard labour, I have not been able to help towards the support of Myself & family for six or eight years in consequence of being sickly — Dotation &c I have no way to support myself except I get encouragement from Government — unless the Govn interferes in my behalf, My papers were made out some years ago but they have been neglected and not sent on to the war department for my relief. — I sworn and subscribed this 6th day of May 1824 before me
John Price John Mahon Judge of Dist. Com Pleas

It is the Opinion of the Court that the property contained in the above Schedule is $28 besides the wearing apparel of himself & wife -
Henry Brown } Judges of the Court Rufus Crane } of Common Pleas John Mahon } for the County } of Ulster }
State of New York } Herkimer County } ss } I, Dabey Fox Clerk of the Court } of Common Pleas for the County and State aforesaid do hereby certify that the above proceedings are a true copy of the oath and inventory of John Price made in Open Court, on the sixth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred & twenty four - and the Original proceedings of which is on file in this Office, In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand, & affixed the Seal of My said Office this 9th day of August 1824
Dabey Fox Clerk of the County of Herkimer
John Price pension papers

State of New York Clerk's Office — Herkimer County
Is I certify that John McBride esquire is one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the Coun- ty of Herkimer and is duly commissioned and qualified to act as such and that the said Court is a Court of Record in and for the State of New York
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of our said Court at Herkimer this eleventh day of February 1819
Walter Fish Clerk

State of New York Rutledge County
May 1, 1818-
On the first day of May 1818 before me the subscriber, one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in & for the said County
aged about 70 years
personally appears John Price aged about twenty years and resident in the town of Fairfield in said County who being by me first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the provision made by the late act of Congress entitled "An act to provide for certain persons engaged in the land and naval service of the United States in the revolutionary war."
John Price enlisted during the war in 1776
That he the said John Price enlisted during the said war, sometime in the year one thousand seven hundred & seventy six; but that not being helped with any education nor having any thing by which he can determine the
no education
month or day in said year , cannot safely swear as to the same) in the State of New York in the Company commanded
Captain Jacob Saver Colonel Drayton
by Captain Jacob Saver of the Corps or regiment com- manded by Colonel Dayton. — and that he con- tinued to serve in said Corps or regiment under said Jacob Saver in the service of the United States until Oriskany
Oriskany Battle Captain Saver killed
battle, at which time the said Jacob Saver and one Thomson Cox then commandant were killed; and that after the death of said Jacob Saver he was placed under the com-
Put under Capt. House
mand of Captain Christian House; and that he was under him in an engagement in the Town of Palatine in the then County of Tryon but now of
Palatine Battle
Montgomery, on the Mohawk River with the enemy and Indians and that Colonel Jacob Klock com- manded the said Corps or regiment to which the said Company commanded by said Captain House
belonged; and that one Colonel Wagoner and one Colo- nel Willet State Troops were in said engagement; but that he cannot remember the month or year in which it took place; and that afterwards sometime he

under Captain Dane wood
was transferred and placed under the command of Captain Marks Dane wood, who commanded a Company called rangers and served upon the Mohawk River and in the country adjacent thereto: and that sometime afterwards he was taken out of the service by Colonel V Schrick and placed in a mill in the upper and town of Palatine as a miller to grind the grain for the soldiers and inhabitants; and that he there took an oath that
placed by order of Colonel Vanscoick in mill took an oath
the time he was so taken from the service and placed in the mill that he must be faithful to his trust as miller and would do no injury whatever to the flour and meal; and that when he was so taken from the service no writing of any kind whatever was given to him; and that he after he left the mill, in which he
no writing given to him
about 2 years miller
served about two years as he believes, he again enlisted in a company commanded by one Captain French, whose Christian name he does not now remember nor  that who commanded the Corps or regiment to which the company belonged  then .
under Captain French
the col of the regiment killed at Stony Arabia
he remained in only that he was from New England and was killed at Stony Arabia in the then County of Tryon but now of Montgomery; and that he cannot remember all the officers under whom he served during said war nor the different engagements and therefore he was in; nor the year he was placed in said mill; but that, excepting
Private soldier the whole war -
that period of time, he served as a private soldier in the service of the United States until the end of the war; and that he does not know of any officer under whom he served as any private soldier with whom he

found that is now living; and that he never had any no discharge } discharge in writing whatsoever, and when peace took place and the soldiers discharged he was at Palatine in said state under the command of said Captain French and who belonged to the corps of Colonel Jacob Clark and was then dismissed by him from the service without any discharge; and that he is extremely poor and in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of his country for support; and that he has no other evidence now in his power of his said services. Sworn declared before me, the day and year aforesaid
John X Price mark
J. M. M c COMBS a Judge of Herkimer County Common Pleas
I John M c Combs Judge of the court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Herkimer as aforesaid do certify that it appears to my satisfaction that the said John Price did serve in the revolutionary war, as stated in the preceding declaration against the common enemy; and I now transmit the proceed- ings and testimony taken and had before me to the Secretary for the Department of War pursuant to the directions of the aforementioned act of Congress -
J. M c M c COMBS a Judge of Herk. Co. Pleas
 J. M c M c COMBS  a Judge of Herk. Co. Pleas 

➤ The following is the Affidavit of Andrew Price

John Prin 19.355
Declaration for Pension
3 78 1/2

State of New York Herkimer County } ss.
Andrew Price of the Town of Minden in the County of Montgomery of the age of Sixtyone Years, being duly sworn deposeth & saith that he is acquainted with the said John Price the within named appli- cant for the Pensions as specified therein, in the declaration made by the said John; and that the said John Price is his brother; and that this deponent and his brother John both enlisted at one time in the month of May in the Year one thousand seven hundred & seventy six, in the said company commanded by Capt. Jacob Sever as is declared by the said John, for during the war. and that corps or Regiment was at that time commanded by Col Dayton; and that they went to Rome, then Fort Stanwix, together under Capt Sever & that while there this deponent was taken out of said company and placed in Capt George Seyth's company in Col. Gansevoort Regiment; and that this deponent & the said John were at Fort Stanwix better than one year; and that afterwards the company to which this deponent belonged & the company of Capt. Sever to which the said John belonged went to Schenectady and that then the company of Capt Sever returned or were relieved and my brother the said John returned and went into a mill at Palatine as this de- ponent then understood and afterwards learned to be true. And this deponent further saith that his brother is very Poor & in need of support from his Country - And further his
I hereby Certify that Andrew Price who took the above oath is a credible Witness I further Certify that he has served on his testimony more than one year
Served over one year
Andrew Price } affidavit } Positive } Proof as } I suppose }
Sworn this 22 nd of October 1818 before me J. H. H. COOPER. a Judge of the Court of Com. Pleas
Andrew L. Price Mark

State of New York Dukins County 3 p.
Edward C. Pinneg of the village of Little
Falls in said County being duly sworn doth depose & say that the within named Andrew Price departed this life sometime about the year 1823 as this deponent has been informed and believes true
Edward C. Pinneg
sworn & subscribed this 7 th day of June 1833 - before me John Dyer a Justice of the Peace in & for said County
I hereby certify that the above named Edward C. Pinneg is a man of good moral character -
Little Falls June 7- 1833 -
John Dyer, J. P.
John Dyer 19.355
Declaration
for Pension
3,78 1/2

State of New York Herkimer County } ss. Clerks Office
I Julius C Nelson Clerk of the court of Common Pleas in & for said County, do certify that "Henry Brown, Rufus Crane, and John Watson" whose names are subscribed to the declaration of John Price, made by said John Price in Open Court on the 6 th day of May 1824, were all of them, at the time said declaration bears date, Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of said County, & duly commissioned as such Judges, and were duly qualified to take the declaration of said John Price, and all the proceedings therein are true & genuine, and the signatures of said Judges to said declaration are their true & genuine signatures as such Judges —
And I do further certify that "Isabell Fox" whose name is subscribed to the certificate of the declaration of the aforesaid John Price dated May 6, 1824 — as taken in Open Court on said day is a true & genuine certificate of said Court, and that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of said Fox and verily believe the signature of "Isabell Fox Clerk of the County of Herkimer" subscribed to said Certificate is the proper & true hand writing of said Clerk, and the seal thereto attached was at the time the true & genuine seal of said Court of Common Pleas of said County — and said Fox was the Clerk of said Court at the time —
And I do further certify that "John M c Combs" whose name is subscribed to the Jurat of the affidavit of Andrew Price dated the 22 nd day of October 1818, was at the time said affidavit bears date a Judge of the Court of Common Pleas of said County of Herkimer and duly commissioned according to law, the court being a court of record with a seal, and was duly qualified to take said affidavit, and also qualified to take the declaration of "John Price, the applicant" dated May 1, 1818 — and that I am acquainted with the hand writing of said Judge and verily believe that the signature of "J m M c Combs a Judge of Herkimer County Common Pleas" as subscribed to the Jurat of John Price, and also "J m M c Combs" as subscribed to his certificate of the good moral character of said Andrew Price on the margin of said Andrew's affidavit, and also the signature of "J m M c Combs a Judge of Herk Com Pleas" as subscribed to the Jurat of the affidavit of Andrew Price, are in all of the aforesaid

cases the proper & genuine hand writing & signature of said Mr Combs- Judge &c -
And I do further certify that "Walter Fish, Clerk" whose name is subscribed to the certificate made by said Fish on the 11 th day of February 1819 - as clerk - certifying that John McCombs Esquire was a Judge of Herkimer County Courts, was at the time said Certificate was dated the Clerk of said Court of Common Pleas, and said Certifi- cate is a genuine Certificate according to law, and the seal thereto attached was at the time the seal of said Court, and that I am acquainted with the hand writing of said Clerk and verily believe the signature of "Walter Fish, Clerk" as subscribed to said Certificate is the proper hand writing & signature of said Clerk -
And I the Clerk aforesaid do further certify that "John Deygent" before whom the affidavit of Edward C. Pinney hereunto to heretofore been taken as to the death of Andrew Price, on the back of the affidavit of said Andrew, was at the time a Justice of the Peace in & for said County of Herkimer and duly qualified to act as such Justice, and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and verily believe that the signature of "John Deygent Justice Peace" as subscribed to the back of the affidavit, and also to the good moral character of said Esquire, is the genuine hand writing & signature of said Justice -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this tenth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred & thirty three - Julius C. Sherman Clerk
End of the old proceedings -
State of New York Herkimer County
Commencement of the new -

On this nineteenth day of February in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three, personally appeared before me Augustus Beardslee one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of said County & of the degree of counsellor at Law of the Supreme Court of said state John Price a resident of the town of Fairfield in the County of Herkimer and State of New York, and is now over eighty years of age, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1892. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named Officers, and served as herein after stated -
resident of the town of Fairfield
This Deponent says that he is now over eighty years of age, but cannot say exactly how old he is, that he was born in Germany in Europe, that his Parents removed to this country when he was yet a child, was so young that he has no recollection of his passage to this country, that they came direct to the County of Montgomery in the State of New York - and this Deponent saith that he has no record of his age, and that there never was any record of his birth kept by his Parents - That his Father died when he was yet a child - And this Deponent says that he resided with one Jacob G. Klock of the town of Palatine in the County of Montgomery and State of New York at the time of the commencement of the revolutionary war, and made it his home there during said war, except when engaged in said war -
over 80 years of age
And this Deponent further saith that he entered into the service of the United States of America as early as the year 1776 by enlisting during the war under one Captain Jacob Sauer of said County who was the commander of a Company - That this Deponent's first service, after his said enlistment, was to
enlisted during the war
as a scout, the country being at that time a hostile enemy, consisting of British Tories & Indians, at that time the country was principally forest where named enemy annoyed the inhabitants of this part of the country very much - by murdering and mauling them - by driving away their cattle, - by destroying and consuming their other substances which were necessary for their sustenance and support, that whilst this Deponent was engaged as such scout, he with others that were with him, took several Tories prisoners - the following is a
Colonel Dayton's name omitted in these proceedings, through my omission in drawing up the papers, E. C. Piny
Capt Jacob Sauer

On the nineteenth day of February in the year of Our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three, personally appeared before me Augustus Beardslee one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas of said County & of the degree of counsellor at Law of the Supreme Court of said state John Price a resident of the town of Fairfield in the County of Herkimer and State of New York, and is now over eighty years of age, who being first duly sworn according to law, doth, on his oath, make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832. That he entered the service of the United States under the following named Officers, and served as herein after stated -
This Deponent says that he is now over eighty years of age, but cannot say exactly how old he is, that he was born in Germany in Wurtemberg, that his Parents removed to this country when he was yet a child, was so young that he has no recollection of his passage to this country, that they came direct to the County of Montgomery in the State of New York - and this Deponent saith that he has no record of his age, and that there never was any record of his birth kept by his Parents. That his Father died when he was yet a child - And this Deponent says that he resided with one Jacob G. Klock of the town of Palatine in the County of Montgomery and State of New York at the time of the commencement of the revolutionary war, and made it his home there during said war, except when engaged in said war -
And this Deponent further saith that he entered into the service of the United States of America as early as the year 1776 by enlisting during the war under one Captain Jacob Sauer of said County who was the commander of a Company - that this Deponent's first service, after his said enlistment, was to scour the country as a scout, the country being at that time infested by a hostile enemy, consisting of British Tories & Indians, the country at that time being principally forest & woody - the above named enemy annoyed the inhabitants of this part of the country very much - by murdering and massacring them - by driving away their cattle, - by destroying and consuming their other substances which were necessary for their sustenance and support, that whilst this Deponent was engaged as such scout, he with others that were with him, took several Tories prisoners - the following is a
residents of the town of Fairfield
over 80 years of age
enlisted during the war
Capt Jacob Sauer

two of the number taken whose names this deponent yet well recollects, they being as it were leaders of the enemy in those parts, to wit, Adam Young, John Weyer, Adam Helmer, George Mc Kenstry, John Carr, one Thompson & one Levee all about Frank Tories, besides many others whose names this deponent has now forgotten - That he was engaged in this kind of warfare six months about six months -
And this deponent further saith that immediately after the above mentioned services had closed - Captain Sauer with his company, of which this deponent was one, were ordered to Fort Stanwicks, which is now in the County of Oneida, State aforesaid - and this deponent went with his said Captain & Company to Fort Stanwicks aforesaid, and remained there nearly two years - in all whilst there they had frequent skirmishes with the enemy, (which consisted principally of Indians - some British & Tories) - and one severe Battle, which was fought at a place then called and now known by the name of Oriskany Oriskany Battle , in the County of Oneida State aforesaid, in which this deponent took an active part, and in which said engagement, his said Captain Jacob Sauer was killed - and his said Lieutenant Joseph Plant, was also killed by the same hostile force a few days after - whilst on his way to Minden & Fort Plain, in the County of Montgomery State aforesaid
And this deponent further saith that after his said Captain, Jacob Sauer, was killed as aforesaid, he was placed under the command of Captain Christian Haule who then acted as this Captain, and this deponent thinks that said Haule was at the time a regular commissioned Captain, that he served under Haule nearly one year nearly one year, and this deponent says that after the engagement at Oriskany, and whilst they were in the Fort, the Indians & Tories attacked them early in the morning and that a severe contest ensued, in which we succeeded in routing the enemy after taking some prisoners &c - 12 wks
And this deponent further saith that on the arrival of Captain Sauer and his Company at Fort Stanwicks they found the Fort in a bad condition and entirely unsafe, and therefore had to commence immediately a fatiguing and laborious work, for to repair the same - to build the Barracks - pick all the timbers that secured the same &c, that they had to dig new trenches around the Fort - to put up new pickets around the same - to repair the out works, and also many other repairs to make said Fort secure & safe against an attack of the enemy, - which was a hard and laborious work of which this deponent was one, and laborious hard in the accomplishment of the whole of the aforesaid work - Fort in bad condition

And this deponent further saith that after he left Fort Stanwix, he returned to Fort Palatine Plains, in the County of Montgomery State aforesaid, which was the head quarters for the few troops that then remained engaged in a drill by the order of Col. Van Schaick; afterwards arrived in this vicinity, near here were one or more regiments in the service under Capt. French, and the company of Capt. French was continually engaged, out upon alarm scouting about the country, watching the movements of the enemy, Tories & Indians, that then infested this part of the country, during the war aforesaid -
And this deponent further saith that after he returned from Fort Stanwix, he was engaged in the following battles, or engagements, to wit, First, was engaged in a battle at a place called Ten Broek lying between the Mohawk River and Old Schaharie, said engagement lasted about four hours - Second,
this deponent was in the battle at Palatine which place lies on the north side of the Mohawk River adjoining said River & in the County of Montgomery, this was a severe engagement, in which one Colonel Brown was killed and in which this deponent was wounded in the right cheek - and this deponent further
says that he was in an engagement at what is called in this country, the Johnstown Battle , which place is in the County & State last aforesaid - and this
deponent further saith that he was in the battle at Old Fort , so called, at a place called Trius
Hill in the County last aforesaid - and also was sent an express on an alarm to Cherry Valley but did not arrive in time to take an active part in the engagement, but had some little skirmishing with the enemy -
And this deponent further saith that he was in several sharp & severe skirmishes during the time he was in the service as aforesaid, the items of which are too numerous to be detailed at length in this declaration - and this deponent says that his health is bad and not adequate to the task - but this deponent supposes what facts he has stated and shall hereafter state and set forth in full, will of themselves be sufficient to entitle him to a pension.

And this Deponent further saith that the whole of the time that he was in the actual service of the United States during the revolutionary war in the manner as above stated was over four years without any loss of time -
And this Deponent further saith that he has no written discharge from his said Officers now in his possession, and thinks he never had any, for this reason, the Captain under whom he enlisted, to wit, Captain Jacob Sayer, was killed at the Battle of Oriskany before his term of enlistment expired, and that Captain Christian House under whom this Deponent served after the death of Captain Sayer, was not his regular Captain that is, he did not enlist under him, but on the arrangement of the army in this quarter after the Oriskany engagement which caused the loss of so many officers & men, that this Deponent was placed under the command, for the time being, of Captain House as aforesaid -
And this Deponent further saith that all the Officers under whom he served during said war are deceased, as he has been informed and believes true - That Colonel Van Schaick and Colonel Gansacooat, the then Colonel, that commanded upon the line of the Mohawk River during the war aforesaid, and under whom this Deponent served are as he has been informed all deceased, - also Colonel Jacob Klock and this Deponent says that he does not, at this time, know of any person living that was with him in the service as aforesaid, or that was or is knowing to the above mentioned services as rendered by him - or that can give any light or information on this subject -
And this Deponent further saith that the property
over 4 years in the service no written discharge
Col. Van Schaick & Gansacooat

loss of property in the war over $2000
That belonged to the deponent, that was destroyed by the enemy, during the war aforesaid, was worth over two thousand dollars at that time, and of which amount the deponent hath not to this day received one cent, nor the value of one cent, in the way of remuneration or otherwise from our said government, or any other way -
And the deponent further saith that he received but a small portion of his pay as a soldier in said war, and a portion of what he did receive died on his hands, being continental money -
And the deponent further saith that the circumstances attending the loss of his property in the revolutionary war, are briefly these - on the eve of his going to Fort Stanwix, as above stated, and as a matter of prudence, and for greater safety, he took his mother, who was then living, with all his tangible property and carried them to Fort Walbratt or Walrod situated in said County of Montgomery, where he left his mother & effects - but a few months after, and whilst the principal part of the inhabitants of that section of the country were called to other places, the British, Tories, and Indians made an attack upon the Fort, there being at the time but few men left to guard the same, and succeeded in taking it -
deponent's mother massacred in said war
after the Fort was taken the besiegers massacred all the inmates of said Fort - then burnt the same, and also destroyed every thing in its vicinity - killed all the cattle, took away all the horses - burnt up every thing that was inflammable without discrimination - and by the burning of the Fort the deponent lost all his property which consisted principally in written evidences of debt &c on persons in Germany - with cows, horses and furniture, that he had taken there for the use of his mother and others her companions inmates of said Fort - and in consequence of these evidences of debt being burnt the deponent has not to this day been able to collect his said demands, and will no doubt prove a total loss -

And this deponent further saith that the services rendered by him as a soldier in the war of the revolution, was rendered in the now County of Onida & Montgomery in the State aforesaid, as before stated, and not in the County of Herkimer where this deponent now resides, and has resided the whole of the time since the close of said war, with the exception of about five years - which said five years, he resided in the County of Montgomery & State aforesaid -
And this deponent further saith that no language is adequate to the task of describing the fatigue, danger, hardship, privations, sufferings, harassing journeys, sleeping upon the cold ground, in storms, winter & summer, hunger, thirst, wounds, loss of relations, &c &c which have befallen this deponent and which he suffered during the revolutionary war -
And this deponent further saith that he is very poor, old, and infirm, has nothing but one cow, a herd, and a few other things of household furniture, left him of temporal goods - hath no house nor home - living in a great measure upon the charity of his neighbours - is not able to work - and this deponent doth here say before his God and his Country that he is now and always hath been a sober and industrious man - but the ravages of the revolutionary war - & the unavoidable losses - accompanied with sickness &c, have combined to keep him poor - and that he cannot work - and unless the Government will aid him at this time he must inevitably be supported by public charity -
And this deponent further saith that he hereby relinquish every claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present, and declares that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any State -
Sworn and subscribed the 9 day of February 1833 - before me
John Price
Augustus Beardslee a Judge of Herkimer Common Pleas -
We, Stephen Hammond and Paul Nelson, Freeholders and inhabitants of the town of Fairfield in the County of Herkimer and State of New York do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with John Price who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration, that we believe him to be over eighty years of age as above stated by him, that we are near neighbours to said John Price, and have been for twenty five years last past up to this time, that he is respected and believed in the neighbourhood where he resided to be a man of truth and veracity, and it is reported & believed in the neighbourhood regularly and from age to age, that said John Price was engaged as a soldier

in the revolutionary war, and that we concur in that opinion -
Stephens Spammi
Sworn & Subscribed this 19 th day of February in
the year 1833, before me
Augustus Beardslee, a Judge of Herkimer County Court By the Judge
Oral Nelson
I, Augustus Beardslee one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Herkimer and of the degree of Counsellor at Law of the Supreme Court of the State aforesaid, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings before me (the said Judge) in the matter of the application of John Price for a pension; and I do hereby certify and declare my opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named John Price was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he stated; and I do further certify that the aforesaid John Price is very old and infirm and in my opinion not able at this time, nor will be at any future time, to go to the place where the courts for said County are held, in order to make his declaration in open court, and as I am informed, and it is my opinion, that he is not able to dress or undress or feed himself; that the place where the courts for said County are held is over seven miles from the residence of said Price; and I further certify that it appears to me that the persons who have signed the foregoing certificate are residents of the place as above stated by them in their certificate, and that I know them personally, and their statement is entitled
no Cluett Gysman in neighbourhood
to credit; and I further certify that there is not now, nor has there ever been a settled Clergyman in the neighbourhood or within six or seven miles of said John Price.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this nineteenth day of February in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty three.
Augustus Beardslee a Judge of Herkimer Common Pleas

State of New York Herkimer County } ss.
I Julius Colberson Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Said County of Herkimer do hereby certify that Augustus Beardslee, before whom the foregoing examination and declaration of John Price purports to have been taken, subscribed and sworn to on the 19 th Instant; and also before whom the foregoing Certificate of Stephen Hammond and Paul Wilson purports to have been subscribed and sworn to on the 19 th Instant; and also the foregoing Certificate of the said Augustus Beardslee subscribed by himself on the 19 th Instant, was at that time, and is now, one of the Judges of the Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Herkimer, and is of the degree of Councillor at Law of the Supreme Court of the aforesaid State, and was then & is now duly qualified to act as such Judge & Councillor, and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Judge and verily believe that the signature of "Augustus Beardslee a Judge of Herkimer County Courts" subscribed to the Jurats of the foregoing Certificates & declaration; and also to the Certificate and testimony subscribed by himself, is the true and genuine hand writing and signature of said Judge, and the seal thereof attached was the genuine seal of said Court -
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this twenty second day of February in the year Eighteen hundred and thirty Three -
Julius Colberson Clerk

New York Rev
John Price
Suspended
let. E. C. Pinnery 4
Dec 1833
8469
Act. 7 June 52

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
54 69 P. O. John Price Service: _____
REJECTED
Enlisted: _____, 18 .
Discharged: _____, 18 .
Application filed: _____, 18 .
Alleges: _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.

J. L. Edwards Esq Committee of Pensions
Dear Sir
We cannot give any further evidence, from the inability of the claimant -
18 months under Capt. Price You will see by the evidence of his Brother, Andrew Price, (see Andrew Price, affidavit) that the claimant served to his knowledge over one year at Fort Stanwix -
You will also see that claimant served six months before he went to Fort Stanwix -
about 12 months under Capt. Price You will also see that there is one item of about one year that claimant served under Captain Christian House, which was after the above 18 months, which was served under Captain Jacob Sauer,
after service The truth is the claimant was in the service from May 1776 to the end of the war
Perhaps our statements, and the evidence, may not in all its parts be as technical as is required by the rules of the War Office, but it appears to me, taking the law for my rule, to be sufficient to entitle Mr Price to a Pension - I assure you will I have no doubt do as well by Mr Price as you do by others under like circum- stances -
Again I &c
Little Falls. Oct 30, 1833- Her. Kirtland County State of New York
Edward C. Pinnery Atty for John Price

John Price
Sept 27 33
Edward C. Pinney Little Falls New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Oct 24. 1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of John Price
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.      
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }  On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I, _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this _____ day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz.:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____, who has hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
 6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
 7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.