Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 7889, for John Dorman Palmateer, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York
Palmateer John Dorman R 7889
CONTENTS

30. 6. 38
John D. Palmateer
all but first of bins
Suspended for evidence from Sec of State of N. York.
David Woolny Esq. New Paltz Falls New York

Return this
WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of John D. Palmer
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Enlisted 1776 — 6 — Private Lieut Woodward   1777 — 9 — Boatman Capt. Wm. Mump   1779 — 9 — Private Cap Simon  
I am, respectfully,
+ In affidavit of Wm Partly
Your obedient servant,
JAMES L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of } On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. [This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this _____ day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____ and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his
Proof that Lieut Woodward Capt. Wamp & Capt. Linn are in the present alleged may be obtained the Secretary of the State of New York

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following ( m ) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
 6. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it? 
 7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the inquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

State of New York ss: On this seventh day of September in the county of Ulster A. D. 1832 personally appear- =ed in open court before the judges of the court of common pleas of said county now sitting John Dornin Palmater a resident of the town of New Paltz in the county of Ulster & state of New York aged seventy four or seventy five years, who being first duly sworn accor- =ding to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed June 7. 1832. That he entered the service of the united states under the following named officers and served as herein stated. In the year 1775 or 1776 he enlisted & served the term of six months under lieutenant Solomon Woodward. He was at the city of Schenectady, when he listed, was princi- =pally employed in traversing the country in scouting parties going out as far as Fort Orange. That he next enlisted he thinks in the year 1777 under the command of capt Minard Tams & served a term of nine months & was discharged on the first day of January, was employed the principal part of this term in transporting provisions & ammunition from Schenectady to Fort Stanwix (now Rome). Served the next three ensuing months under capt Reuben Simonds at Saratoga Lake. In the ensu- ing spring enlisted again under capt Simonds & served nine months & was discharged on the first day of January he thinks 1779. This winter & the follow- ing summer was stationed at Johnstown, where they were commanded in the winter by militia off- icers, who took turns in commanding, in the spring capt Sackett from Fishkill took comm- =and, this year he was repeatedly out on scouting parties reconnoitring & spying out the Indians while there he saw William Lam, who was also in the united states service & left Johnstown on Genl Sullivan's expedition against the Indians. Said Lam now resides in New P- =altz in said county of Ulster. His affidavit is hereto

That while lying in the fort at Johnstown it was attacked by the British & Indians, who were repulsed and driven off after several hours hard fighting. Towards the last of the war he removed down to a place about six miles below Albany, for on a raid which there he was called out two nights in a week, to guard the country. Nicholas Stanght was his captain and John Stanght his lieutenant. That he was born at Wappingers Creek in Dutchess county in the year 1757 or 58, has no record of his age he lived at Johnstown when he first entered the service of the United States, & latter part of war moved below Albany, from there to Poughkeepsie in Dutchess county & after a few years moved to New Paltz Ulster county where he has ever since lived & now lives. That he never received a written discharge. That David Wolley Esqr
was acquainted with him.
The undersigned hereby claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present & declare that his name is not on the pension roll of the army of any state.
We
residing in the town of New Paltz in Ulster county hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with John Doormin Palmater who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be seventy five years of age; that he is deaf & blind, in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier in the revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.

of William Lane, nor does he know of any other person who was with him in said service -
He hereby relinquishes any claim whatever to a pension or annuity except the present declaration that his name is not on the pension roll of the agency of any
the State -
Sworn to and subscribed the day & year aforesaid,
John Dorman + Patricius Mench
AD 1808 First Judge -
John Jansen John A. Deyo A. H. Hardenburgh } Judges &c
Deponent in addition to the regular officers above named recollects to have seen General Schuyler General Henry Gland, Colonel Harper, Major New Kirk - He cannot state any other general circumstances of his services than as above set forth in this declaration. - Deponent is not particularly acquainted with any clergyman in his neighborhood who he is able to bring to court to testify for him, but he is well known to and acquainted with David Wolley Esq. one of the Justices of the Peace of the said town of New Paltz and to Josiah Dubois and Abraham Palmatier, and with Jonathan Sluyter one of the Justices of the Peace in Esopus in said Co. residing in the neighborhood of this deponent, who can testify to his character for veracity, and their belief of his services - Deponent has no other direct proof of his services other than the affidavit.

WE, David Woolley, Jonathan  a Clergyman Palmatier, residing in the town of E New Paltz — in the County of Ulster — and State of New-York, and Jonathan  Jonathan  Sluyter — of Erosius in said County of the same town, hereby certify, that we
are well acquainted with John Norman Palmatier who has subscribed and sworn to the foregoing declaration; that we believe him to be seventy five — years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a Soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
David Woolley Esq. Jonathan Sluyter Abraham Palmatier
Sworn and Subscribed, the day and year aforesaid. }
Adolfus First Judge
John Jansen Abm A Deyo C G Hardenburgh } Judges
CERTIFICATE OF THE COURT.
The Court of Common Pleas in and for the County of Ulster in the State of New-York, sitting this twelfth — day of September in the year 1832
at the court-house in Kingston in said County, do hereby declare their opinion, after investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as
he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that Abraham Palmatier  Woolley and Abraham Palmatier who has signed the preceding certificate, is a clergyman , resident in the
town of E New Paltz in the County aforesaid, and that Jonathan Sluyter  Jonathan Sluyter — who has also signed the same, is a resident in the same town and are  of Erosius in said County credi-
Credible persons, and that their statement is entitled to credit. —
Adolfus First Judge
John Jansen Abm A Deyo C G Hardenburgh } Judges
I, Jacob Snyder Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, in and for the County of Ulster in the State of New-York, do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of John Norman Palmatier for a Pension.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this twelfth day of September 1832
Jacob Snyder

State of New York Ulster County
S: Personally appeared before, the undersigned First Judge of John  West County Courts, Dorman Palmateer who being duly sworn, saith that by reason of old age and the consequent loss of memory, he can not swear positively as to the precise length of his service, nor to the exact names, and rank of all the officers under whom he served but according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, at all times as a private soldier 1 st In the spring of the year 1775, he enlisted under Lieutenant Wood -erd at Schenectady, for the term of six months, and was in actual service for the space of six months and two weeks, at that time Lieutenant Woodard was the next year promoted to the rank of captain, and killed by the Indians at Little Falls - during this service Col. Harper or Hopper was the commander, from Schenectady we went to Johnstown, at which place he was stati- tioned, and from whence he was frequently out on scouting parties guarding the frontiers against the Indians - this deponent can not recollect all the officers who commanded him, they were mostly strangers, from a distance, and he does not remember their names, but he is certain as to term of service performed 2 nd In the spring of 1776 he enlisted, under Lieutenant Myndert Wemp or Wemple, to serve the term of nine months, at Schenectady, and served the whole of said term of nine months, during this term this de- ponent was under arms every day, and when not stationed at Schenectady he was out on scouts, and guarding the shores of the Mohawk River, while the boatmen were carrying provisions and ammunition to Fort Stanwix - this deponent and the men with him, traversed the shores or banks of the river, under arms, and the command of an officer or sergeant, - during this term of service he thinks Lieutenant Wemple was appointed captain - Col Wemp, or Wemple was our comman- der, one of the Van Patten's was one of our company officers, at Schenec- tady, and cols. Willett and Gansevoort, commanded at Fort Stan- wix, he was discharged on New Years day at Schenectady by Captain Wemp or Wemple -
3 rd The next three months during the winter of 1777, he served under Captain Simons, at Saratoga Lake, he enlisted for that term, and was engaged in getting out timber, under the immediate direction of General Schuyler, the timber was to be taken to West Point, and chained together, in a body across the river so as to prevent the British shipping from coming up - there were three companies in

this service, but he did not do regular military service, as he had done before, in the above mentioned services.
4 th In the Spring of 1777. He again enlisted to serve nine months under Captain Myndert Wemp, or Wemple, and was engaged in all respects, during this term in the performance of the like service as during the preceding nine months - and this deponent cannot recollect any additional facts applicable to this service, with sufficient certainty to state them.
5 th In the year 1778 he served the term of Six months, and was stationed at Johnstown, during this service the British and Indians burnt Canajoharie, and afterwards attacked the Fort at Johnstown, deponent was in the engagement, - during this term Major Van Klief commanded, and different company officers, of whom he remembers Captains Vrooman, Putnam and Sackett.
6 th In the fall of the year 1778, he removed to near Schenectady and resided there for several months, during this time he was in no regular military service, although frequently out on alarms from one to five days at a time.
7 th In the year 1779. He removed to a place about six miles below Albany, and resided there until the close of the war - during this time he belonged to the Militia, under Captain Staats, and Lieutenant Staats, and done no other service than to take his turn in guarding the highways, and other places, mostly during the night, taking up and examining strangers and disaffected persons. - once during the time he was out for three weeks on an expedition to Lake George, under Genl Schuyler, and one other time for three days - on an Alarm. - and this deponent further says that during the 1 st , 2 nd , 4 th and 5 th terms of service above mentioned, he was engaged in no other business than in the service of his country, as a soldier.
Subscribed & sworn July 17 th 1834 before me
John Dorman
Palmer
Adolfus First Judge
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I certify that I have known the above named John Dorman Palmer for several years past, that he is reported to be a man of good character for veracity, and entitled to credit as a witness. -
Adolfus

State of New York
Ulster County ss: I. Jacob Snyder Clerk of the County of Ulster and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County do hereby Certify that Abraham D. Soper Esquire was on the day of the date of the annexed affidavit First Judge of Ulster County and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Judge and verily believe the signatures of said Judge to the annexed affidavit and Certificate to be genuine —
In Testimony whereof I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed the seal of said Court and County this twenty first day of July 1834
Jacob Snyder Clerk

Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
7889 P. O. John R. Purnatun Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18 Discharged: _____, 18
REJECTED
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____ _____
Re-enlisted: _____ _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____ _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

30.638
New York
John D. Palmaten suspended
Let H. D. Woolley 26 March 31 " " Am N. Schuss - Mun. 5. 1836
7889
This man is dead - so says Mr David Woolly of New Paltz

State of New York William Bartley being duly sworn saith he was Ulster County ss. Born in Poughkeepsie Dutches County and State of New York, on the nineteenth day of January one thousand seven hundred and sixty three, and before the Revolutionary war with great Britain. This deponent saith that he moved with his Father Thomas Bartley, and John Dorman Polmateer (whom this deponent has been acquainted with ever since he can remember) to Schenectady. And being now present before this deponent, and John Dorman Polmateer, this deponent testafith that the said John Dorman Polmateer entered the Revolutionary service in one thousand seven hundred and sixty  seventy six under Lieutenant Solomon Woodward at Schenectady for the term of six months, and served his full time out, sometimes in transporting munitions up the Mohawk river for the army, and at other times running scouts after the Indians. And that in one thousand seven hundred and seventy seven, the aforesaid William Bartley testafith that he was knowing to the afore said John Dorman Polmateer's enlisting for nine months in the army, and served the full time of nine months out under the command of Captain Minard Vamp, also the said deponent saith that he was knowing to the said John Dorman Polmateer's serving nine months in the army under the command of Captain Reuben Simmons, at, and about Schenectady, Schoharie, and up the Mohawk river and was in several skirmishes against the British and Indians. The aforesaid deponent saith that he was in company with John Dorman Polmateer in the army a great part of the time and knows him to have served two full years, and believes him to have served as much as three or four years in all, and that his Father Thomas Bartley (who has been dead several years) was with him also. This deponent also saith that he was well acquainted with general Schuyler, Captain Minard Vamp, Captain Reuben Simmons, Lieutenant Solomon Woodward, Captain Sacket, Colonel Harper, and general Newkirk and many other officers belonging to the northern army of the state of New York.
This is to certify that the above is a true copy of the original deposition of William Bartley taken before me David Holley Justice of the Peace
William Bartley
State of New York Ulster County ss. I hereby certify that the above named William Bartley this day personally appeared before me and duly sworn and affixed his mark to the above affidavit and I do further certify that I am acquainted with the said William Bartley that he is a man of good character for truth and veracity and entitled to full credit as a witness. Dated November the 15 th A. D. 1833 David Holley Justice of the Peace

Ulster County ss. I Jacob Snyder Clerk of the County of Ulster and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of the County of Ulster do hereby Certify that David Wolley was on the day of the date of the within affidavit a Justice of the peace in and for the County of Ulster duly authorized to take affidavits &c and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and verily believe the signatures of said Justice to the within Affidavit and Certificate to be genuine Witness my hand and the seal of said County and Court this fourth day of February 1834.
Jacob Snyder

State of New York } ss William Palmateene. Ulster County } of Poughkeepsie Dutchess County Personally appeared before me the undersigned and being Duly sworn says he is in the sixty five years of his age was borne in the Town and County aforesaid in the year 1768 and is well acquainted with John Domm Palmateene who is now present before this Deponent and well known to him was with him in the Revolutionary war engaged against the British and Indians at and about Schoharie Schoharie fort Stanwicks and the Mohawk River was with him in several skirmishes in the fort and other places with the British and Indians and well knows of his having more than two full years and believes to have been more than three or four years in the whole. Was well acquainted with nearly all of the officers in the Southern army as with Capt. Sacket Munroe Vandeusen Reuben Simons Lieut Woodruff Major Jenkins General Scuyler and many others of the New York Troops and militia officers and well knows said John Domm Palmateene to have been a good faithful and Resolute Soldier to gain a true Independence came in the Revolution War with Great Britain for
more than two years Subscribed and sworn this 15 th Day of January A.D. 1834 before me David Wallus Justice of the Peace State of New York } ss William his Palmateene Ulster County } mark
Personally appeared before me and being Duly sworn and affirmed his mark to the above affidavit and I do further certify that I am acquainted with the said William Palmateene that he is a man of good character for truth and veracity and entitled to full credit as a Witness Dated this 15 th Day of January A.D. 1834 David Wallus Justice of the Peace

Ulster County ss. I. Jacob Snyder Clerk of the County of Ulster and Clerk of the Court of Common pleas of the County of Ulster do hereby Certify that David Woolley Esquire was on the day of the date of the within affidavit a Justice of the peace in and for the County of Ulster duly authorised to take affidavits &c and that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and verily believe the signatures of said Justice to the within affidavit and Certificate to be genuine — Witness my hand and the seal of said County and Court this fourth day of February 1834.
Jacob Snyder
David Woolley New Paltz landing New York
30. 138

State of New York Ulster County
vs William Lane of the
Town of Newpaltz and County aforesaid being Duly Sworn says that he is in the Seventy fifth year of his age then now a Revolution Pensioner was born in the Town of Poughkeepsie Dutch County the 9 day of October 1757 that he enlisted in the American Revolution Service against the British and Indians in the year 1775 for four years that he now resides in the Town of Newpaltz County of Ulster aforesaid and has been a resident of said County since the Revolution Service and is well acquainted with John Dornier Palmatene a resident of Newpaltz in said County a Revolution Soldier now in the present of this Deponent well known to him now as in the Revolution Service was with this Deponent last month being a Continental Troop at and about Johns Town and Schoharie Under Command of Capt Sackett of Michkill in the year 1778 or 79 and further more this Deponent believes him to have served much longer that he the said Deponent then marched with a division of the troops to Easton in Pennsylvania and left the said John Dornier Palmatene at Johns Town in the fort and further more this Deponent knows him to have been a faithful and respectable Soldier and of a good moral character to the present time
Subscribed and Sworn this 10th day of September 1832
Wm Lane
Before me David Wolley - Justice of the Peace
State of New York Ulster County vs William Lane I here by Certify that the above William Lane this day personally appeared before me and being Sworn and Subscribed to the above affidavit and I do hereby Certify that I am personally acquainted with the said William Lane that he is a man of good character as respects truth and veracity and is able to full understand a witness Dated September 10th A.D. 1832 David Wolley Justice of the Peace

STATE OF NEW-YORK, Ulster County Clerk's Office,
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I Jacob Snyder, Clerk of the County of Ulster, and Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas of Ulster County, do hereby Certify, That Laird Wolley — Esquire, was on the day of the date of the Certificate to the annexed affidavit, a Justice of the Peace in and for the said County of Ulster, duly authorised to take affidavits, &c.; and further that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice, and verily believe the signature " Laird Wolley " — subscribed to the Certificate of the said annexed Affidavit to be genuine.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto subscribed my name, and affixed the Seal of the said Court and County, this twelfth day of September 1832
Jacob Snyder

John H. Palmer N.Y.
New Paltz, N.Y. March 20
Dear
Sir
J. L. Edwards Committee of Pensions Washington city

Newpaltz Ulster County
March the 8- 1895
Sir I now write some particulars and desire your answer I desire to hear what is done or what will be done with the Application proof and papers of John Dorn Palmateer as a revolution pensioner they have been deferred and laying some time in your Office we have produced what proof we know of at present or all has been required of us by letter as we understand them we wish to know what will be done with the claim for what is to be done for him if any thing must be done soon he is old and very much infirmed and very poor helped and supported principally by his neighbors in hopes of his getting his pens- ion so as to enable him to help himself for the future the character of John Dorn Palmateer the claimant for a pension and variety is good he is known as a sober honest industrious man and has always been considered as such and having been a good faithful and resolute soldier of the revolution war. I have been acquainted with him for more than twenty years and find this to be his general character and reputation we are very anxious to hear the result In the first letter I received from you dated August the 7 1884 stated the papers of the claimant John D. Palmateer had been examined again and stated he served six months in 1775 under Lieut. Woodruff six months under Lieut. Winkle in 1776 and in 1777 under the same officer and three months in the same year under Capt. Simons and six months the next year under the same officer and in 1778 and in 1779 different terms of services It was stated there was no proof of the above named officers having command or commissioned at that time and it would be necessary to produce the Certificate of the Secretary of the State of New York showing that the above named officers was duly commissioned to serve as he alleged and the papers was placed on file, The Certificate of the Secretary of the State of New York was produced and sent by letter but not as soon as will have been on the account of not receiving your letter and on the account of sickness in Albany

Contin
The next Letter I received the last of December stating the Certificate of the Secretary of State of New York had been received respecting the appointment of certain Officers in the State and that the Certificate appeared in support of some claim for a pension and wished me to state the name of the claimant I perhaps mite have neglected to mention his name thinking it was so often mentioned in the papers on file in your Office I accordingly immediately wrote to you stating his name John Domin Palmateene the third and last Letter I received in June last stating in answer to my Letter that the papers of John D Palmateene was examined on the 7 August last an objection to the admission of his claim there stated further proof was required which had not been produced until the requisition is complied with and explanation as to form puts off the claimants statements are made no further examination of the case need be expected This is the statement of your last letter I have received I do not perhaps understand the true meaning of it on what account it is deferred on, whether on the account of proof or irregularity in forms I cannot understand, although thought the proof now would be satisfactory on the subject, Sir we desire an answer from you as soon as possible if it cannot pass or if any thing more is wanting on the subject
Yours
I am very respectfully your
J. L. Edwards
Chief Servant
Compt. of Pensions
David Walley Esq

Note Sir by reason of old age and infirmity the Applicant cannot recollect but feel particular as regards the Officers names in the army and being many of them strangers to him and not living in that section of the country after the war and not seeing any of them after, they are all mostly forgotten by him. The applicant is very poor but an honest & good citizen. If this is not sufficient on the papers satisfactory you will be pleased to send me word soon as convenient. Yours with the greatest respect D. Wolley Egan
Newport Landing July the 21-1836
W m J. L. Edwards Comm d of Pensions

Mar 5 Mr. H. H. H. attention Mr. Lucia
J. Schmitz Washington D.C. Mr. N. S. Kels H.R.

Washington 4 th March 1836
Hon J. L. Edwards
Sir, Mr John D Palmeter of Ulster County applied some time since for a pension, and set forth in his declaration the different terms of service performed by him, and that they were performed under Lieut Woodward, Lieut Minip, Captain Simonds and Lieut. Haas. The application was received at the department and answer was sent to Mr Palmeter that there was no evidence in the department that the three first named officers had the command at any time during the revolutionary war of 9 or 6 mos. men, and as stated by Palmeter that in order to establish the character of the service performed by Palmeter it would be necessary for him to procure the certificate of the Secretary of the State of New York showing that the officers under whom it was performed were duly commissioned to serve as alleged in Palmeter's application.
By a letter of 18 th Nov 1836 it appears that the required certificate was recd at the War Department. Will you inform me what decision has been made in said Palmeter's case
Yours &c
Nicholas Sickles