Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File W. 11100, for George Ratnour, New York

SERVICE
NUMBER
New York.
Ratnour, George Elizabeth
W. 111100
CONTENTS

New York George Parnour
of Mendon in the State of N. York who was a Private in the Corps commanded by Captain Drown of the Reg. commanded by Col. May in the N. York line for 2 Years
200501
Enrolled on the Roll of N. York at the rate of 80 Dollars and 62 1/2 Cents per annum to commence on the 14th day of March, 1831.
Certificate of Pension issued the 30 day of June 1832 and Ruth S. Chapman Blackwell
Arrears to the 14th of Mar. '33 $ 16 00 Trans. allowance ending 4 Sept. '33 4 00 $ 20 00
Revolutionary Claim. Act June 7, 1832. J. C. Stiles Clerk
Recorded by Book E. Vol. 3, Page 14

180 New-York Albany
Elizabeth Kalnour widow of George Kalnour NY who was a Private in the Revolution
Repealed
Letter to Wm Valentine May 3. 1847.
Inscribed on the Roll at the rate of 24 Dollars 21 Cents per annum, to commence on the 4th day of March, 1844. 37th May, 1844, when he died Certificate of Pension issued the 24th day of April 1846 and sent to J. Chapman Esq. Bellockville Madison Co. N.Y.
[Act of JUNE 17, 1844.]
Recorded in Book 6 p. 2 Page 84

Elizabeth Patmore Application for a Pension Decr 10th 1845
No 10 204 Elizabeth Patmore M d of Kruse
N.Y.
act 17 June 1844
M d 1792
husband died 30 May 1844
Admitted
7 mos 8 dy $24.21
S. Chapman
Blackville
Madison Co
N.Y.

Declaration
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress passed July 7 th 1838 also of that act approved March 3 rd 1843 and the act of June 17 th 1844 State of New York } ss. On the 6 th Sixth day of October 1845 personally Madison County } appeared before Friend Barnard the subscriber one of the judges of the Court of common Pleas of said County Elizabeth Katnour of said County aged 77. Seventy seven years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following Declaration.
In order to obtain the benefit of the act of congress approved June 17 th 1844. and the several acts therein recited. That she is the Widow of George Katnour Late of Senox in said County deceased who died on the 30 thirtieth day of May 1844 Eighteen hundred forty four who was a pensioner of the United States at the time of his death at the rate of Eighty dollars per year whose pension certificate has been returned to the pension office of the United States as she believes. it was N o 20.050 that she has remained a Widow ever since that period.
She further declares that she was married to the said George Katnour on the 6 th Sixth day of November 1792 Seventeen hundred ninety two by the Rev d Mr. Kirk the then Pastor of the Dutch reformed Church at Fort Plain in the Town of Minden in the County of Montgomery N.Y. that her Maiden name was Elizabeth Hepp - that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first day of January 1794 Seventeen hundred Ninety four Viz at the time above stated. She knows of no record evidence of her marriage only thinks that it may possibly be found in the church aforesaid.
Sworn to and subscribed on the day Elizabeth her Katnour and year above written before me mark Friend Barnard Judge of Madison County Court
Notary Public
I certify that the above named Elizabeth Katnour is a respectable person that she cannot from bodily infirmity attend the Court & the reason she did not write her name is she never learned to write.
Dated October 6 th 1845
Friend Barnard Judge of Madison County Court

State of New York Madison County } ss:
George I Ratnour of Seneca in said County after being duly sworn according to law on his oath doth depose and say that he is in the fifty first year of his age that he was born January 15 th 1795 the second child of George and Elizabeth Ratnour that he had a sister Elizabeth Ratnour who was two years older than himself she died at the age of seven years or thereabout he recollects her well and that she died of small pox. that this Elizabeth Ratnour whose application for a pension is herunto attached is his mother and is the widow of George Ratnour late a pensioner deceased. she belonged to the Dutch Reformed Church at Fort Plain in the Town of Minden Montgomery County N.Y. of which the rev. D.G.C. Rich was the pastor until the time of his death and then about the year 1803, the rev. John J. Wack was settled at Fort Plain pastor of said church and so continued until this deponent removed from that place with his father's family to the town of Seneca in Madison County in the year 1811 at which place his father, mother and himself have ever since resided until the death of the said George Ratnour May 30 th 1844 and that the Dutch People used to spell the name of Ratnour, Rattenaur, but the English people have spelled it the same as we now spell it Ratnour
George I Ratnour
Sworn and subscribed this 21 st day of November 1845 before me
N.S. Gady P.C.
I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with George I Ratnour who made and subscribed the foregoing affidavit and that he is of good character for truth and veracity and is entitled to full credit. November 21 st 1845
N.S. Gady P.C.
State of New York Madison County, Clerk's Office } ss
V. Harris C. Miner Dep Clerk
of said County do certify that Nathan S. Gady Esq. whose name is subscribed to the above sworn and certificate was at the date thereof a Justice of the peace in & for said County duly elected and qualified and also that Friend Barnard Esq. whose name is subscribed to the foregoing Sworn & Certificate was a Justice of said County duly appointed & qualified & that I am well acquainted with the hand writing of said Justice and Justice & verify the signatures thereto to be genuine In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & official seal this 29 th day of Nov 1845
V. H. Miner Dep Clk, Clk Absent

I John J. Wack do certify that I the Pastor of the Dutch Reformed Church at Fort Plain in the County of Montgomery have the custody of the Church Records and have held the same for the last forty two years and that I find the Marriage of George Ratnam to Elizabeth his on the sixth day of November Seventeen hundred Ninety two that the top of the page of the leaf on which Marriages are recorded has the Date as fol: 1792 then towards the bottom of the Page it is recorded as follows The 6 of Nov. George Ratnam to Elizabeth Hef that the same is in the hand writing of the then Pastor of that Church D. C. A. Pick with whose handwriting I am well acquainted Dated October 29th 1845
MO. J. Wack
State of New York Tulson County ss. John J. Wack being duly sworn saith that the foregoing certificate by him made is true and correct and that he was well acquainted with both the said George Ratnam & Elizabeth his wife and that it is the same & identical Elizabeth Ratnam whose application to draw a pension is attached and further saith not
MO. J. Wack
Subscribed to before me
October 29 1845
George W. Ellis Justice
I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with the Reverend John J. Wack who made the foregoing certificate & affidavit and that the same are entitled to full credit and the second wife was alive and well before signed October 29th 1845
George W. Ellis Justice

State of New York Fulton County Clerk's office
I Stephen West Clerk of the County of Fulton do hereby certify that Aaron Miller the person before whom the within and foregoing affidavit of John J. Wach purports to have been taken, was, at the date and time of taking the same an acting Justice of the peace in the said County duly elected and sworn and legally authorized to take the same, And that his name subscribed to the jurat of the said affidavit, and to the certificate following the same, is his genuine signature
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my name and the Seal of said County and of the Court of common Pleas thereof this 21 st day of October A.D. 1845
S. West Clerk
State of New York
Madison County Clerk's Office
WILLIAM H. HARRIS
I J. T. Bentley clerk of said county do hereby certify that Friend Barnard Esq whose name is subscribed to the foregoing jurat and certificate was at the time of the date thereof one of the Judges of the court of Common Pleas of said County and also that
Nathan S. Cady Esq whose name is subscribed to another of the foregoing jurats and certificates was at the time of the date thereof a Justice of the Peace of said County and further that I am well acquainted with the hands writing of both the said Judge and the said Justice and verily believe that the signature of the said Friend Barnard and of the said N. S. Cady to each of the said jurats and certificates are genuine
Given under my hand and the Seal of the court of Common Pleas of said County being by me affixed hereto this 9 th day of December 1845
J. T. Bentley Clerk

State of New-York Montgomery County ss. Joel Life of the town of Minden in said County being duly sworn with that he is the clerk of said town of Minden and has the custody of the Books of the record of said town and that he has lawfully examined said records and that no Marriage of any description remains or can be found in his office and further Smith not known before me Joel Life Town Clerk October 30th 1845.
James W Hamilton Justice, I hereby certify that I am well acquainted with Joel Life who made the foregoing affidavit and know he is the clerk of the town of Minden and that he is a man of truth and veracity and that his statements are entitled to full credit October 30th 1845 James W Hamilton Justice of the peace
STATE OF NEW-YORK, Montgomery County Clerk's Office. } ss.
I, CHESTER S. BRUMLEY, Clerk of said County, do hereby certify that James W Hamilton Esq. whose name is subscribed to the annexed Surat and Certificate was at the time the same bears date a Justice of the peace of said county; and further that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of such Justice and verily believe that the signature to the said Surat & Certificate is genuine:
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed the seal of the said county, the 22 nd day of October 1845
C. Brumley CLERK.

1888.
George Ratnour Madison Co. New York
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G. Chapman Esq. Clarksville. Madison Co Clarksville New York

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will show what is necessary to be done. These points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, showing the Service of George Ratnour. Madison Co. New York.
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Name and Rank of the Company officers under whom he served. Name and Rank of the General and Field officers. Battles to which the applicant was engaged. Country through which he marched. Place of abode when he entered the service, and age at the present period. Evidence by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     Mar 1780 1 10 0 Private Capt. Dana Dana Col. William William None N York 72 years Montgomery Co N York Three witnesses   Mar 1781 1 9 0 Capt Capt. L. Chapman Chapman Col. William Williams Sharon " " "   Apr 1782 1 9 0 Capt Capt. Frederick Nichols Col. William Williams Johnstown " " "  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS, Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c. Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of Private Armed Vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons, claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this _____ day of _____ personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of _____ in the county of _____ and State, Territory or District of _____ aged (c) _____ years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) _____, with _____ and served in the _____ (e) regiment of the _____ line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of _____
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I, _____ of the Court of _____ do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this _____ day of _____ &c.
If, on examination of the proper record the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the _____ and C. D. residing in (the same) _____ hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with _____, who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be _____ years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B., who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the _____
and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the _____ and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, _____ Clerk of the Court of _____ do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of _____ for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this _____ day of _____ &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person

will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County, in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify, to the character and standing of other persons, giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____ For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their services. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
Joseph Rowan Esq etc.

10359
George Ratman S. Chapman Atty. Charlottesville Va. 6-2-89.
cond 24 mo per 80 $

We John Peterson & Stephen Chapman residing in the Neighborhood of George Katman in the town of Linnat hereby certify that that we are well acquainted with George Katman who sub- scribed and swore to the foregoing declaration that we believe him to be of the age of twenty two years that he is reputed and believed in the Neighborhood where he resides to have been a Soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that belief
Given to be Subscribed this day and year as aforesaid in open court A. S. Noan Clk.
S. Chapman John Peterson mark

State of New York Madison County
Jacob Shaver of Manlius in the County of Onondaga being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is well acquainted
with George Rotenauer and was in the American Revolution and that he the said George enlisted about the first of March in the year 1780 in Captain Dana's Company in Col Hays Regiment New York line on the Continental establishment for Ten Months and that he was Honorably discharged in the Month of January 1781 after having served out his time faithfully at Fishkill in the State of New York and further saith not
Subscribed before me this 19th day of February 1831 Sylvester Beecher Justice of the Peace
his mark Jacob Shaver
I Certify that Jacob Shaver who took the foregoing oath is a Credible Witness and the reason he does not write his own name is that he never learnt to write
Sylvester Beecher Justice of the Peace
State of New York Madison County
Nicholas Yostan of Hastings in the County of Oswego being duly sworn doth depose and say that he is well acquainted with
George Rotenauer and that he the said George enlisted in Captain Dana's Company about the year 1780 That he was mustered to join said Company that he was absent about one year from the County of Montgomery where he enlisted - & further saith not
Sworn & Subscribed before me this 10th day of June 1831
his mark Nicholas Yostan
Sylvester Beecher Justice of the Peace
I Certify that Nicholas Yostan who took the foregoing oath is a Credible Witness & the reason he does not write his own name - is that he never learnt to write Sylvester Beecher Justice of the Peace
his mark

Oregon claim of George Wetmore
Affidavits of St. Joseph & J. Shann

State of New York } ss. Henry Brightman of the Town of Milton Madison County } in said County being duly sworn in Open Court according to Law deposes and saith that he is acquainted with George Retman who signed and swore to the Declaration he unto attached hereto him & lived with the said George Retman in the Revolutionary war in the year 1782 and he there lived nine months in a Company commanded by Capt. French in Col. Willett's Key Stone and Subscribed THOMAS BRIGHTMAN the day and year aforesaid before me A. Sloan Clerk
State of New York } ss. Jacob Shaw of the Town of Mannings Madison County } of Onondaga in said County being duly sworn saith that he is well acquainted with George Retman who signed & swore to the foregoing Declaration and now examined the same by reading it was read offered to him and knows that he signed as there stated that he enlisted the 1st of March in the year 1780 under Capt. John Duna in Col. Hays Key that he served the whole term of ten months and was dismissed at Fishkill in January 1781 - Sworn & Subscribed this his Jacob Shaw 8th day of October 1832 - mark A. Sloan Clerk
State of New York } ss. John Betts of said County Madison County } being duly sworn saith that he is and has been acquainted with George Retman since before he near have expired his foregoing declaration and more the he performed the same as stated to have been performed near Capt. Lorenz Graft in 1781 - & that he was also discharged in the Winter of 1782 - & further saith not John his Betts mark

Sworn & subscribed to this 8 th day of October 1832.
Before me — A. S. Sloan Clk

Declaration
State of New York Madison County
On this tenth  eighteenth day of October  June 1833 Personally appeared in open court before the judges of the court of common pleas in and for the county of Madison upon said now sitting George Halmos a resident of the Town of Lenox in said County aged Seventy three years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed June 7. 1832 that he entered the service of the United States under the following named officers and served as here stated that he was born in the Town of Winden in the County of Montgomery N.Y. in the year 1760 has no record of his age lived at the time then when he was born when he entered the service continued to time there after the war until about thirty years since he came to the County of Madison where he now resides and has ever since
That he entered into the Army of the revolution in the year 1780 about the first of March under Capt John Dana in Col Hays Regiment Marched to Schenectady & Albany and went down on the river to Fishkill and was there in tents and lived out the whole ten months the term of his enlistment and was duly discharged without mutiny the first part of January 1781. That in the Month of March 1781 he after drafted into the revolutionary army in the New York line of State Troops for Nine Months he was  was the last of March a part of  at was stationed at Fort Plain Fort Hunter and Fort Stanwix all on the Mohawk River

 That  he  was  drafted  to  Fort  Hanna  under  capt  Laurens  gross  in  Col  Willets Regiment and served the whole of the said nine months, and was duly discharged the first of January 1782 and in the Spring of the year 1782 he was again drafted and went into the Service for nine months and served all that time under Capt French in Col Willets Regiment was ordered to Fort Hanna and served at that place & Fort Hunter Kirkman Schuyler & Stannaker and was discharged at Albany in the fall was well acquainted with Henry Schuyler in the last term of Service that he has no documentary evidence that he was appointed with Capt Samuel Cherry General Kirkman Major Wait; he now knows Sylvanus Seely one of the judges of this court. Nicholas N. Root John P. Bleecker for other See affidavits That he was in the Sharon Battle while under Capt Gross was in the Johnstown Battle while under Capt French does not remember very well; knows of no better testimony than he has produced - that he was as often called into Service by proper authority and regularly discharged by the same That he hereby relinquishes every claim whatsoever to a pension or annuity except the present and that his name is not on the pension list of the army of any State
George H. ... ...
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and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of the agency in any State and in answer to the interrogatories he says in answer to the first
1 st was Born in the town of Minden in the Co of Montgomery N.Y. in the year 1760
2 nd Has no record of his age
3 rd Lived at the Town of Minden where he was born when he entered the Service at each time continued to live there after the war until the year 1802 when he left that place he removed to the Town of Lenox where he now resides and has ever since resided which is in the County of Madison N.Y.
4 th That in the year 1780 he enlisted in the fore part of the month of March for ten Months
In 1781 in the latter part of the month of March he was Drafted for Nine months
In 1782 he was again Drafted for nine months
5 th was acquainted with Col. Hay Capt. John Dana Capt. & afterwards Maj. Samuel Cherry Genl. Herkimer Major Wail: was in the Johnston Battle was called from the Fort to go to Cherry Valley met the enemy at Sharon and there had an engagement and then under Capt. Grops was also acquainted with Henry Brightman who can testify to last known of him & John Brightman in 1802
6 th Never received any Written Discharge but was always discharged with the rest of the Company Verbally Never had a Commission
7 th Is acquainted with John Leber Esquire Menard Nicholas Wirt John Buyer Stephen Chapman Sylvester Beecher Esquire Deborah S. Spencer Esq. & H. P. Brewster
Sworn to and Subscribed in open Court this 18th day of June 1833 -
A. Sloan Clk. George W. Robinson Clerk

Me Nicholas N. Bort in Lenoir Madison County & Stephen Chapman of the same place hereby certify that we are well acquainted with George Ratmarr who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration that we believe him to be of the age of twenty three years that he is respected & believed in the neighborhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and that we concur in that opinion
Nicholas Bort
Stephen Chapman
Sworn to and Subscribed in open court this 18th day of June 1823 before me A. J. Sloan Clk.
and the Said Court do hereby declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the court department that the above named George Ratmarr the Applicant was a Revolutionary soldier and served as he states and the Court further certifies that it appears to them that Nicholas N Bort who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman residing in the town of Lenoir in the neighborhood of the said applicant and Stephen Chapman who has also signed the same is a resident in the same place and are credible persons and that their statement is entitled to credit
I Andrew J Sloan clerk of the County Court in and for the County of Madison do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the Original Proceedings of the Said Court in the matter of the application of George Ratmarr for a pension and further certify that Stephen Chapman before whom the three following affidavits
taken was a Justice of the Peace duly qualified to act as such on the day of the date of their being taken and that I am well acquainted with the handwriting of the Said Justice of the Peace and nearly believe the signature of the Said Justice to each of the Jurats to each of the Said affidavits and also to his certificate of the good character of witnesses to be his own proper hand writing In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office this 18th day of June 1823
A. J. Sloan Clk.

State of New York Madison County } ss
Henry Rothmeyer of the town of Sullivan in said county being duly sworn saith that in good faith he is well acquainted with George Rothmeyer who signed the foregoing declaration hereto attached and knows him for more than fifty years, knows that he served as a private in Capt. Fricke's Company in Col. Millett's Regiment in the year 1782 in the Revolutionary War and that this deponent served in the same company with him for the term of nine months and further saith as sworn - Subscribed this 14th day of June 1833 before me Henry Rothmeyer Stephen Chapman a Justice of the Peace
State of New York Madison County } ss
Isaac Shaver of the town of Mamakating being duly sworn saith that he is and has been well acquainted with George Rothmeyer who signed the foregoing declaration for more than fifty five years and that he has examined his said declaration hereto attached and knows that the said George Rothmeyer enlisted and served in Capt. John Scharf's Company Col. Hays Regiment for ten months and was discharged at Fishkill in the month of January 1781 Sworn and subscribed this 14th day of June 1833 before me his Isaac Shaver mark Stephen Chapman a Justice of the Peace
State of New York Madison County } ss
John Belknap of said County being duly sworn saith that he is well acquainted with George Rothmeyer who signed the foregoing declaration hereto attached and has examined the same and knows that he performed the services as there stated under Col. Levers's Regt in Col. Millett's Regiment in 1781 and that this deponent served the same time in the same Regiment and was assigned to do the baking for said Regiment for that year and two others and that the said George was duly discharged after having out the whole nine months for which he was drafted used to be discharged all through the Revolutionary War on the Mohawk River - further saith not Sworn & subscribed this 15th day of June 1833 before me his John X Belknap mark Stephen Chapman a Justice of the Peace

I Stephen Chapman the Justice before whom the affidavits of Henry Highmire John Shaver & John Belroger were taken hereby certify that I am well acquainted with each and all them and know them to be men of truth and veracity and that their statements each are entitled to credit Dated June 18th 1833 Stephen Chapman Justice of the Peace

State of New York County of Madison ss
on this tenth day of March 1847 before the Subscriber a Justice of the peace in & for said County personally appeared Henry Ratnour who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain an increase of pension which he has been informed & believes was due his mother Elizabeth Ratnour deceased & as he has also been informed & believes is now due her children; That he is one of the children of Elizabeth Ratnour, a pensioner of the United States, that the said Elizabeth Ratnour died on the twentieth day of May in the year one thousand eight hundred & forty six in the County & State aforesaid & at the time of her death she left her surviving, the following named children viz George J Ratnour, Henry Ratnour, Sarah White, Catharine Hendrickson, Jacob Ratnour William Ratnour, Abraham Ratnour, Susan Smith, & Barnhardt Ratnour, That they are her only surviving children, & each of them are over twenty one years of age, in support of which claim he refers the pension depart- ment to the proofs on file in connection with such as may be furnished by its agent William Valentine of Albany N.Y.
Subscribed & sworn to before me This tenth day of March 1847
Henry J Ratnour his mark
N.P. Brady Justice of the peace
I N.P. Brady Justice of the peace in & for said County do hereby certify that I am personally acquainted with Henry Ratnour above named & that his statement is entitled to full faith & credit N.P. Brady Justice of the peace

State of New York County of Madison ss.
Stephen Chapman of the Town of Senox in the County & State aforesaid who being first duly sworn according to law deposeth, that Elizabeth Ratnour a pensioner of the United States died in said County on the twentieth day of May one thousand eight hundred & forty six & at the time of her death left, her surviving the following named children viz; George J Ratnour, Henry Ratnour Sara White, Catharine Hendrickson, Jacob Ratnour, William Ratnour, Abraham Ratnour Susan Smith, & Barnhardt Ratnour; That they are her only surviving children & seven of them are over twenty one years of age Subscribed & sworn to before me The tenth day of March 1847 N.P. Cady Justice of the peace
I N.P. Cady the Justice of the peace above named do hereby certify that Stephen Chapman above named is a creditable & competent witness & his statement as above set forth is entitled to full faith & credit
N.P. Cady Justice of the peace
Notary Public State of New York

State of New York Madison County Clerks Office } ss } A Scott Moran Clerk of said county hereby certify that Nathan S Gady Esquire before whom the affidavits hereto written were subscribed & sworn & whose name is subscribed to the 2 certificates hereto written was on the day of the date thereof a Justice of the Peace of said County duly elected and qualified. That his Term of office commenced on the First day of January in the year one thousand Eight hundred and forty five and said expire on the last day of December one thousand eight hundred and forty Eight That I am well acquainted with the hand writing of the said Justice and verily believe that his signatures to the said Affidavits and certificates are genuine. In Testimony Whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal of office this 22 d day of March 1847. A Scott Moran Clerk

State of New York ) County of Madison ) Surrogate's Court. )
On this 23 d day of March 1847 it was proved by the adduction of testimony satisfactory to said Court that Elizabeth Ratnour a pensioner of the United States died in said county on the twentieth day of May, one thousand eight hundred and forty six. And at the time of her death, left her surviving, the following named children, viz George J. Ratnour, Henry Ratnour, Sana White, Catharin Hendrickson, Jacob Ratnour, William Ratnour, Abraham Ratnour, Susan Smith, and Barnhardt Ratnour. That they are her only surviving children and each of them are over twenty one years of age.
In testimony whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and affixed the official seal of said Court the day & year first above written.
James W. Nye Surrogate

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their service in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent per annum, viz :
  30 th Nov. 1781 George Rottenamer priv. $ 16 14 2   31 st Dec. do do do 2 13 4   31 st Dec. 1782 Geo. Racener do 20 14 2 
STATE OF NEW-YORK,
COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, 24 th Dec., 1847.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2, now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
  First—under Capt. Lawrence Cross in Col. Marinus Willett Reg't.   Second " " do " " do "   Third " " Abner French " " do "   Fourth " " " " "   Fifth " " " " "   Sixth " " " " "   Seventh " " " " "   Eighth " " " " "   Ninth " " " " "   Tenth " " " " "   Eleventh " " " " "   Twelfth " " " " " 
Philip Phelps Dep. Comp.

In pursuance of a law passed the 27th of April, 1784, entitled "An act for the settlement of the pay of the Levies and Militia, for their services in the late War, and for other purposes therein mentioned," the following certificates have been issued, bearing interest at five per cent. per annum, viz :
  30 th Nov. 1781 George Kottmeyer priv £ 16 14 2   31 st Dec " " Geo. Kottmeyer " " 2 13 4   20 th July 1782 George Kottmeyer X " " " 17 9     16 14 2   2 13 4   19. 7 6   Ymo. 8 days priv 
STATE OF NEW-YORK, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, Albany, 19 th Jan. 1846.
I hereby certify the above to be true extracts from Book No. 2. V 3 — now remaining in this office, and that the service for which the certificates above named were issued, were performed under the following officers, viz :
 First—under Capt. Lawrence Grop in Col. Marcus Willett Regt.  Second " " " " " "  Third " " Adam Lipe " " Sam d Glynne "  Fourth " " — " " " "  Fifth " " " " " "  Sixth " " " " " "  Seventh " " " " " "  Eighth " " " " " "  Ninth " " " " " "  Tenth " " " " " "  Eleventh " " " " " " 

Rev WIDOW, &c.
File No. 11100
Elizabeth Ratnor Widow of George Ratnor in Rev War
Act: June 17 th 1844
Index:—Vol. M , Page 149
[Arrangement of 1870.]

No 18 204 Elizabeth Ratune
N o Lot 6 Wm. F. Schuyler Jan'y 3 '46
act 17 June 1844

Letter
To J. S. Edwards Esq

Albany N.Y. April 7 th 1847
Sir
Enclosed is the application of the children of Elizabeth Ratnour, for the increase of pension which it is believed was due her in her life time and now due the children — I am Sir, very respectfully, Wm Valentine
J. S. Edwards Esq. Comm r of Pensions Washington

Comptroller of the Treasury Punch
Jan 30 1846
Abel L. Chaplin
Mr. Patterson
PAID
Hon. J. S. Edwards Esqr. Secy of the Navy City of Washington D.C.

State of New York Madison County
Elizabeth Patnoury application for a Pension
Blockville Jan'y 24th 1846
Dr Sir
Yours of the 3rd of January 1846 addressed to Hon T. Jenkins as has been received by the Widow of George Patnoury late a prisoner as. as; and that the date of the Marriage is satisfactory, but that you must have proof from the Comptrollers office at Albany. She has obtained the enclosed certificate, from which it does not appear that any Levy or draft was made until 1781. of course those who intisted were not returned, who served before 1781. beside it does not appear that Capt Dana or Capt Franches Prolls were ever returned to the Comptrollers Office. I alwes understood the Old Man to say he never received a dollars for his services, and only on one occasion that he ever applied and then the Officer told him he never got the money it is the Opinion of the old Lady his Widow that he served in 1779, 1780 & 1781, and the old Man could not ascertain for a certainty in which years he served The Witnesses are dead I believe all or nearly so by whom he proved

his services, and there are none by whom she can get any information in relation to what ever became of the Molls of Capt. Dana or French, but from the character and integrity of George Wetmore to me known I have no doubt but that every word of which he swore was substantially True and correct.
I had supposed where a Man Obtained a pension for services performed that his widow was entitled to draw by proving the marriage before Jany 1 st 1894 if I am not correct I should like to be informed on the subject. Please say to me what further Proof can be required of her and what the result of the case as it stands and send me the same by Mail and greatly oblige that Poor old widow - am yours or J. L. Edwards Esq. Comt of Pensions S. Chapman
N.B. I recollect the old man stated to me shortly before his death many events which took place while he was in the service under Capt. Dana, stationed for ten months on the Hudson River at or near Fish-Kill in Dutchy County but the old man might easily be mistaken as to what regiment his company belonged the regiment was seldom together

Dec 29. 1895. Be Ely Ratner, June 17. 1895.
Rev. J. Jenkins H. S. O. Adams Commissioner of Pensions City of Washington D.C.
Hon. J. Jenkins H.R.

1840 Stockville Madison County N.Y. Dec 10th
Dear Sir I here forward you the Papers of Widow Elizabeth Rathour She is the Widow of George Rathour late a pensioner of the United States of the town of Lenox in the County of Madison New York Deceased and his pension certificate has been returned to the pension office. This same Widow has already drawn the back pay of her late husband There no doubt of any of the facts set forth in her application She is in want and wish you would give your early attention to the business and on the receipt of those papers drop me a line and oblige: I am well acquainted with the old lady and has been Since 1812 and have had a near Neighbor to her ever since and