Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File R. 1,751, for Thomas Palmer, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Va. In Service
Palmer, Thomas
R. 1,751
Carter, Judith
(Former Widow)
CONTENTS
This widow's last husband, Thomas Carter also served in the Revolution.

Aug 22, 48,
Judith Carter, widow of, Act 7 July 1838,
R Saunders,
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Lancaster County July 28 1848, J. L. Edwards Esq. Secy. of Pensions
Sir
You will please furnish my agent & attorney R. Saunders of Virginia with a copy of the declaration of my late mother Judith Carter former widow of Thomas Palmer and later the widow of Thomas Carter, claiming a Pension under the act of 7th July 1838; And to answer such questions as he may ask touching the same, and to furnish him copies of any letter, or letters addr- essed to either the said Judith Carter or to her Agent in relation to her App- lication for such Pension.
Very Respectfully Yr. Mo. Obedient
Harriet Carter
State of Virginia Lancaster County town This day personally appeared before the subscriber a Justice of the Peace in and for the aforesaid County Harriet Carter and acknowledged the foregoing

letter of authority to be in act and mind And I certify that the said ... is is reasonably ... and ... in ... of the ... children ... the death of the late ... of the Carter and formerly the widow of the Palmer. In testimony whereof he has hereunto set his hand this ... day of July 1848.
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Edward T. ...
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VA Declaration of Mrs. Inouth Carter who was widow of Thomas Palmer act July 7 1838 Will Mr. Edwards be pleased to examine this case & give the re- sult to-
John Taliaferro
18 th Feb: 1839-
To J. L. Ed: S wards, Esq:-
Thomas Palmer on roll Va State Twp as a Seaman re @ £ 59:19 -
Thomas Carter on roll final settlement acct page 123 as per Inf's Realty.
Hon. J. Taliaferro (W R)

State of Virginia } ss. County of Lancaster }
On the 29 th day of January 1839 personally appeared before the subscriber one of justices of the Justices of the Peace for said County Judith Barker a resident of the said County of Lancaster aged seventy eight years who being first duly sworn according to Law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to petition Congress or the agent for paying pensions to allow the same to her viz, — That she was well & personally acquainted with Thomas Palmer from the time she was twelve years old, that in the early part of the Revolutionary war he enlisted as a private in the Virginia State Navy that he remained in said service in said capacity as he after words told me until the close of the said war (with the exception of two years during which term he was captured by the enemy as a prisoner of war) that previous to his having been taken a prisoner in the said Thos Palmer was on board of an American Vessel of War when the said Vessel was wrecked on some Island where they suffered greatly from hunger &c for three weeks & four days at the expiration of which time they were providentially taken off by some Vessel passing and carried to the Island of St Thomas at which said Island he took the Small Pox That after having been confined a prisoner by the enemy for two years he made his escape whilst the prison ship was lying near Cranz Island she further declares that she was at

before stated well acquainted with the said Palmer before his enlistment in the said service and recollects with the term of enlistment & release and that he was about four or five years She further declares that she was married to the said Thomas Palmer on the 30 th day of July 1785. and lived with him until his death which was on the 6 th of May 1796
She further declares upon oath that afterwards to wit on the 29 th day of November 1799 she was married to Thomas Carter and that the said Thomas Carter was also a Soldier in the War of the Revolution that he enlisted (she thinks & believes) in the winter of 1777 in the Minute Service under Capt. Berryman that he was marched to the North and served in a campaign there and she has heard him say was in several engagements one of particular (say) at Monmouth and was quartered one winter in Morristown that his first term of enlistment was for two years But that after the expiration of said term he re-enlisted for and during the war and that he served from the time of his enlistment to the close of the war She further states that he was not at the surrender of the British forces under Lord Cornwallis in consequence of having been home on a furlough she thinks he must have served between three & four years She further declares that the said Thomas Carter died on the 30 th day of January 1826 and further she declares that she has never received any Bounty land or what is agree- able thereto nor pension annuity half

pay pension or any compensation whatever on account of the services of either of her said husbands and that as she before stated is now in her 78. year and very poor poor & needy if the above statements of facts are sufficient she prays that she receive at your hands that aid which she thinks humbly thinks she is entitled to as a destitute widow of two soldiers who fought & served their Country faithfully and aided in achieving our glorious Liberty should however the above statement of facts require corroboration by other testimony that testimony can be procured. Given under my hand the the day & year above written for Judith Carter Mark
State of Virginia County of Lancaster 3 85
This day personally appeared before me one of the justices of the peace in & for the County aforesaid, Judith Carter, resident of the said County, who made oath on the Holy Evangelist of Almighty God, that the statements contained in the foregoing declaration by her made contain the truth to the best of her knowledge recollection & belief; and being well acquainted with the said Judith Carter, I state, that I believe her to be a woman of veracity & that her declar- -ation is entitled to credit. Given under my hand this 29 th day of January 1839.
Dan d P. Mitchell

p. 87
Washington
July 17/50
Mr Lupton
asks for re-examination of the case of Mrs Judith Carter, widow of Thomas Palmer, seaman in the Revolution H. H.
Mr Ames July 17/50
Ref d to Com te of Pension Dep. Interior July 17. 1850

Washington D.C. July 17th, 1850
Sir,
I am requested by Reuben Saunders, Esq. of Virginia, to look into the papers of Mrs. Judith Carter, formerly the widow of Thomas Palmer, who was a Seaman in the Revolution & who asserted her claim under the Act of 7th July, 1838, Virginia roll, and was suspended. He informs me that additional evidence was filed in this case. As I cannot get access to these papers, I have the honor to request that a re re-examination of this case may be made at the Pension Office, and if not allowed, that the reasons for its disallowance may be reported to you upon appeal.
I have the honor to be, Sir, Very respectfully, Bonne O. St. Aubin. Th. D. Sampson
Hon. Thomas Cushing Secy of the Dept. of the Interior.

Judith Barker Memo. 3 Brief Pension Claim -

Judith Carter Pension Claim.
In January, 1839, Judith Carter Declares That she was well acquainted with Thomas Pal- mer from the 12 th year of her age - That in the early part of the Revolution he enlisted as a private in the Virginia State Navy and re- mained in that capacity, as he afterwards told her, to the close of the war, with the ex- ception of two years that he was kept prisoner by the enemy. He had been wrecked previous to his capture, was taken up by a vessel and carried to St. Thomas, where he had the small pox. He escaped from his prison ship near Craney Island. She was married to him 30 th July, 1785, and lived with him to his death, 6 May, 1796. On the 29 th November, 1799, she was married to Thomas Carter, who was also a Revolution- ary soldier. He enlisted in the Winter of 1777 under Capt. Barryman, in the minute service, marched to the North and was in several engagements there, at Monmouth in particular. He was quartered in winter at Harrington. He first enlisted for 2 years. At the expiration of that he enlisted for during the war and served to its close. At Bunkerhill's surrender he was absent on furlough. He served between 3 and 4 years. He died 30 th January, 1826. If her statement needs corroborative testimony, she can procure it. (E. & A.)

Hatwood and East August 11 th 3
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J. G. Edwards Esq. Comm. of Pensions Washington City
Mr. Am.
2
Aug. 14/48. for Pension

New Hollywood Academy, King's Lynn Co. Va. August 10 th 1848
Sir
You will find enclosed a letter of authority from Miss Harriette Cartier requesting her to furnish me with a Copy of the Declaration filed by her Mother in death Cartier former Widow of Thos. Palmer and late the Widow of Thos. Cartier, claiming a Pension under the act of 7 th July 1838. and to answer such questions as I may ask &c.
I will thank You to forward me a Copy of Mrs Cartier's Declaration, together with a Copy of Your letters to Mrs Cartier, or her agent in relation to the admission of her claim. I understand from Miss Harriette Cartier the Daughter, that her Mother's claim was presented very soon after the passage of the act of 7 th July 1838, and was rejected upon the ground of her Mother having been married to the second husband (which was I believe a rule with the department unless Congress passed the explanatory act in 1840). - If this statement of the Daughter be correct I presume You would not require any further testimony in the case but merely require the necessary proof of identity. The Mother is

Now dead but was alive at the passage of the expatriation act . It may be possible that the Daughter is mistaken as to the particular law act under which her Mother claimed a Pension. and if you should not be able to find her Discharge under the act of 9 th July 1838, you perhaps may find it under the act of 4 th July 1836.
Very Respectfully I write here P. L. Anderson
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Acts of July 14, 1862, and March 3, 1873.
REJECTED
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P. O.
Judith Carter
Service: _____
Enlisted: _____, 18
Discharged: _____, 18
Application filed: _____, 18
Alleges: _____
Re-enlisted: _____
Attorney: _____
P. O. _____
_____ Recognized. _____ Contract.
_____ Cert. of Dis. Searched for _____, 18

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J. L. Edward, Commr of Pensions, Washington D.C. July 20. 1850.
Relative to the case of Judith Carter. Papers enclosed, 4 in number.
Affirm the decision of Commr.
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Pension Office July 20. 1850
Sir,
I have the honor herewith to transmit the papers, numbered from 1 to 4 inclusive, relating to the case of Judith Carter on which Mr. T. Lumpkin appeals, and a brief of the evidence.
When her application was made she was not entitled to any thing, even if she had sustained by proper proof all her allegations, for her second marriage precluded any claim for the services of her first husband, and for those of her second she had no demand, having been married to him after 1794. If, however, she survived up to the passage of the Joint Resolution of 4 th March, 1832, she then became entitled to pension for the services of her first husband, on establishing the fact that she had been married to him. But there is nothing to show that she ever stood in the relation of wife to the Thomas Palmer who, it appears from records in this Office, was a Seaman in the Virginia Navy. It does not appear whether she is still living or is dead, and, if dead, at what time her decease took place. Of the steps necessary to be taken, her Agent was duly apprised, but no effort has been made to meet the requirements of the Office, and the case still stands in that condition which if all the facts assumed by the claimant were admitted no final decision could yet be made.
I have the honor to be
Genl. Thomas Cushing, Secretary of the Interior.
Very Respectfully Your G ty Servt. J. L. Edwards