Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 7,366, for Thomas Reid, North Carolina

SERVICE
NUMBER
Nb.
Reid, Thomas
S.7.366
carded.
CONTENTS

Pay July 19 March 35 44 Rev 2295 2 R Rev March 9 1838 (pay & account) " " March 19 1838 " " 3rd Aug 3: June 6 1838.
North Carolina 23.522
Thomas Reid of Pennsylvania in the State of C. Va. who was a Pvt. in the _____ commanded by Captain _____ of the Regt commanded by Col Hampton in the 11 th Cav. line for 1 year.
Incribed on the Roll of C. Va.: at the rate of $40 Dollars _____ Cents per annum. to commence on the 14th day of March, 1834.
Certificate of Pension issued the 28 th day of Feb. 34. and sent to Sam l P. Cooke. Flat Rock P.O. N.C.
Arrears to the 14th of Sept 1833. 100 Semest. allowance ending March 34 20 $120
{ Revolutionary Claim, } { Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by A. Rice Clerk. Book E Vol. 09. Page 71

State of NC at  the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions Buncombe County 3 Oct Term 1832
On this 19 th day personally appeared in Open Court before the justices of the Court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions of Buncombe County State of NC at  the Now Sitting. Thomas Reed a resident of said County and states his age 75 years who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress passed Jun 7 th 1832. He with him was born in the State of Virginia in the year 1758. Has no record of his age deponed to Rowan County State of NC at  the age of 20 he was drafted by Capt. David Ennis for the term of 3 months and joined the North Carolina Militia in Salisbury in Rowan County. He was then put under Capt. Sloan. Col. Hampton & Harnight were the Commanders and marched the militia to Charleston. He served his time out and got his discharge which he has lost from Capt. Sloan. He was drafted again 3 months by Capt. Ennis and joined the Regiment in Salisbury Commanded by Col. Malaby (a Frenchman) which marched on to Camden where stayed some time in Camden and was joined by Genl. Greene's army and marched from that to the Eutaw Springs. He was here in that Battle. He marched then to Salisbury and his term expired He got his discharge from Capt. McCloud which I now have. He served two 3 months tours after this

one in Genl Green and the other a trip to V... he received his discharges. Then he has lost. He served in all 12 months. He lived in Rowan County in the year 1784. He then moved to Burke County thence to Ben Com Co where he has resided since and do at present. I hereby relinquish every claim whatsoever to a pension except the Present and Declan my name is not on the Pension roll of any State. I sworn to and subscribe my and year aforesaid
Thomas Reed
We J. S. Grantee & Wyatt Woodie - residing in the neighbourhood of Thomas Reed do hereby certify that we are well acquainted with him who has sworn to and subscribed to the above Declaration that we believe him to be 75 years of age. and is reputed and believed in the neighbourhood where he resides to have been a soldier of the Revolution and we concur in that opinion I sworn to and Subscribed the day and year aforesaid
James Grantee Wyatt Woodie
And the said Court do hereby certify and declare their opinion after the investigation of the matter and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War department that the above named applicant was a revolutionary,

Soldier and Servant as he states. and the said Court further certifies that James Greenlee & Myatt Woolin who has signed the proceeding certificate are men residents in the same neighbourhood and entitled to credit.
I John Miller clerk of the court of Pleas and Quarter Sessions do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings in the matter of the application of Thomas Reed for a Pension. In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and Seal of Office this 19 th day of Octr A D 1832
J Miller clerk

This paper was connected with the others, I had to separate it, from the others to be enabled to read them in making a copy
H. S. Evans
16 April 1885.
Clerk. Pension Office
Th o Reed - petition for 12 Mths. Service

Thomas Reid N.C.
Admitted as private 12 months $4.00
d. l. m.
Saml. P. Harrison Esq. Fidel Rock P.O. N.C.

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
183
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjunct notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Thomas Reid
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     1778 draft? 3 Pvt. Col. Hampton 75 years   " 3 " Col. Malbedy Rowan Co   3 " L. C. Traditionary   3 " says that he had a discharge for one of his tours at this time but did not forward it -  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers:
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers; the time he left the service; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers;) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. (This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.)]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services. 
G. { To a Soldier. { Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? To an Officer. { Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?
7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution.
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____, and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months , is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.
The applicant must send on his discharge if he has any, and furnish the last evidence in his favor.

Jan'y - 11 - 1901 Mrs. Sophie B. Reid Jackson Tenn 1920 Apr. 5 Filed to Mrs. Dora C. Caldwell Letter in R. 25-6-90 Archibald W. Kirt
Revised
7366 INVALID.
File No. 7366
Thomas Reid
Prv. Rev. War
Act: June 7 th 1832
Index:—Vol. 1 of , Page 312
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Thomas Reid
In this case nothing of a very popular character appears against it. The papers are drawn up by S. J. Patton, and I come under a suspicion as O.

2
Mar 8
FREE
In at James L. Edwards Esq. Law: of Pensions Washington D.C.
Th. M. ( )

Morgantown W Va 25 th Feb 1838.
Sir,
I rec d a few days since a letter enclosing Thomas Reid's Pension Certificate under the act of Congress 7 th June 1832.
I am informed that the Agent at Fayetteville has been instructed to discontinue any further payment on it — That this order was probably made in consequence of some improper conduct in the person who made out the Declaration relative to other applicants — I am not myself acquainted with Thomas Reid but I understand that he is recognized and believed to have been a P. Colonel in the service of the U S during the Revolutionary War and that he is unable to prove that he did serve for at least twelve months — Will you and be good enough to inform me what objection exists against the payment of the old man's Certificate off the program
Respectfully
J. L. Edwards Esq Comm: of Pensions
R. C. Spear

Affidavit of Sam Reed W.
in the case of the Reed application for Pension

State of N Carolina July 23 rd 1833 Burke County }
This day personally appeared before One James Sweeney one of the acting Justices of the peace for said County Samuel Reed M c and after being duly sworn deponeth & saith. That his Brother Thomas Reed now an applicant for a Pension from the County of Bur- -combe did serve two three months Tours during the War of The Revolu- -tion (viz) The first was both volun- -teers in Rowan County under Capt n John Sloan Col d Baennington & marched to Charleston S c where we served out our term which was for three months - we started in Dec r 1779 & was discharged in March 1780 - The next term I served with my Brother we volun- -teered under Capt n Richard Dovel & Col d Melbendy (a Frenchman) - we started in June (about the last or perhaps the first of July) 1781 & joined Genl Green at Camden S c - we were marched to High Bridge

of Santa Fe then returned to Camden ✓ from whence we crossed the Watrous & Cargara Rivers just above where they come together & make Santa Fe we marched on to the Entana Springs & was in that battle which was fought on the 9 th day of Sept r 1781 - We guarded Prisoners from the Battleground to Wells Mills in Rowan Co. N.C. where we were discharged about the last of September - My Brother served one other than three months Long but defendant was not with him & cannot state the officers names I swear to the subscribed date above written before me Samuel his Reed marks James Hardy Jr
The Joseph Evans ... which you would establish your right under this and affirm that ... information ...

3 I certify That James Wilson is an acting Justice of the peace in & for Burke County N.C. and that he qualified Samuel Reid as to the foregoing affidavit in my presence I further certify that said Reid is an old & respectable citizen of this county & is entitled to full credit. July 23 rd 1833
To S r J. Edwards Esq. } Sam l H. Wilson

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR,
BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
S.F. 7366
Washington, D. C., _____, 19_____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Thomas Reid a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Dec. 1779 March 1780 Col. David Ewing N.C.   John Sloan Hampton   June July 1781 3 mos. Richard Brant Stamnight   6 mos. Officers not stated Malmady  
Battles engaged in, Eutaw Springs
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Roxboro N.C.
Date of application for pension, Oct 19 1832  then it was also
Residence at date of application, Buncombe County N.C.
Age at date of application, born in 1758 in Virginia
Remarks: It is not stated whether he had a wife or children.
Respectfully,
Commissioner.

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