Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty Land Warrant Application File S. 3651, for Thomas Palmer, Virginia

SERVICE
NUMBER
Continental Va.
Palmer Thomas
S 3651
carded
CONTENTS

19.131
East Tennessee
Thomas Palmer
of Cocke Co. in the State of Tennessee who was a private in the company commanded by Captain Humphreys of the reg t commanded by Maj. Comstock in the Virginia line for one year from 1781.
Inscribed on the Roll of East Tennessee at the rate of 40 Dollars — Cents per annum. to commence on the 4th day of March, 1831.
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Certificate of Pension issued the 8 day of August 1833 — and sent to Hon J. Anderson 1 Compt.
Arrears to the 4th of March 1833 $ 80. — Semi-ant. allowance ending 24 Sep " 20 —
$ 100. —
{ Revolutionary Claim, Act June 7, 1832. }
Recorded by W. H. Allison Clerk
Book C. Vol. 7 Page 56
per letter 15 Augt 1833 to Hon. J. Anderson order to pay 19 Jan. 1837
Lett to Hon. J. M. Anderson N of R. July 6, 1850, Det. 10? C. Ramsey. Oct 12/50 " " " Dec 8/50. " " " 21 July 51

Pension Appli- cation by
Thomas Palmer
Under the act of June 7 th 1832.
Wards of the Applicant
Chuckey Bend Jefferson County East Tennessee.

State of Tennessee
Coche County
February Sessions 1833.
On this 27 th day of February personally appeared in open court before the justice of the court, now sitting for Coche County, Thomas P. Mier, a resident of the County of Coche & State of Tennessee, aged about seventy two years, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following Declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the act of Congress, passed June 7 th 1832.
This Declarant was born in the year 1760, in Loudoun County (Virginia), and has a record thereof at his home. At the time he entered the service of the United States he lived in the County of Loudoun where he was raised, after the close of his services as a Soldier of the revolution he removed to Bedford County, Virginia, thence to Greene County in Tennessee, & thence to Coche County in the same State, where he now resides, and has resided ever since.
This Declarant was drafted to serve in the revolutionary war against Great Britain in the militia for three months, in Loudoun County, Virginia, in March 1781. under Captain Thomas Shumaker. The day he does not recollect. He was mustered into service at Old Williamsburg Virginia. Major Dennis Ramsey & Major Armistead were field officers there in

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command. We served to the end of the three months and was honorably discharged by his Captain, Thomas Mumpfeff. He has since lost his discharge.
During the three months of his service he marched down from Old Williamsburg to Little York before the time of the Siege, and remained there for some days, & then marched thro' James Town & Richmond.
In this tour he was engaged in a skirmish at a place called Burnside Ferry on James River to prevent the British from landing. They however, succeeded in landing, & took possession of Williamsburg. He was also engaged in a skirmish at Williamsburg, after they occupied the place with the British.
Redhets. Several of the Americans were killed, & a number wounded. Lieut. Smith Lewis was wounded by a shot in the shoulder. This declarant had two bullets shot thro' his clothes.
In the same town this declarant was engaged in a skirmish with the British, at what was at the  then called the Ship-Yard below Richmond. We were nearly half a day engaged, by which to prevent the British from landing.
The British failed to land, and after

Ward effected it at Manchester, burnt part of the Town. After they left Manchester, on their return to their shipping they burnt the rope works, which were four miles below Manchester.
This declarant, after ward, in the same year served a tour of three months as a Substitute for his Brother John Palmer. The day & month in which he entered as such Substitute he does not recollect. He served from the County of London (Virginia) in the company of Captain John Henry. He recollects that Major Cox was a field Officer in this Company, and that a General West also had a command.
This declarant served to the end of the tour & was then Honorably discharged by his Captain. He has since left his discharge. In this tour he was engaged in a skirmish with the British near James River, Va., at the crossing of a Bridge over a drain that emptied into James River. This declarant

was again in the same year of 1781 drafted for three months, in London County, Virginia, under Captain White, and was commanded by Col. Miscwanger. He served to the end of three months, & was honorably discharged by his Captain. He has since lost his discharge. He does not recollect the day or the month in which he entered the service in this last term, but it was in London County, Virginia — and ac- cording to the best of his recollection he was engaged in this last service in the month fall & Winter — and was from the beginning to the end of the Siege of Little York, and had the honor of assisting in the capture of Cornwallis' Army. After the Siege of York this Declarant was detached to serve near Winchester, Virginia, as a  to guard at the barracks or huts as at that place, the prisoners at Cornwallis' Army.
This declarant was

engaged in these various tours for nine months, and also afterwards enlisted as a Regular Soldier, served as such for three months, making his whole service during the Revolutionary War, twelve months. Of his Regular Service this Declarant has made a declaration which accompanies this. This Declarant states that he has no documentary evidence of his claim, and that the only persons whom he knows to be acquainted with his service are Gilbert Smith & William Longley, and to the extent of their knowledge he has procured their Testimony of which it den- herewith.
Question by the Court. When and in what year were you born?
Answer. In Loudoun County Virginia, in the year by the Declaration 1760.
Question by the Court. Have you any record of your age, and if so, when is it?
Answer by the Declarant. I have, and it is at my hand

Question by the Court. Where were you living When called into Service, where have you lived Since the revolutionary War, and where do you now live?
Answer by the Declarant. When I was called into Service, at each time I lived in the County of Loudoun in Virginia - after the close of the Revolution I removed to Bedford County Virginia - thence to Greene County in Tennessee, & thence to Cocke County in the same State, where I now reside & have ever since resided.
Question by the Court. How were you called into Service; were you drafted, did you Volunteer, or were you a Substitute, and if a Substitute for whom?
Answer by the Declarant. In the first up I was drafted. In the second I served as a Substitute for my Brother John Palmer. In the third I was drafted - and after the end thereof

I enlisted as stated in my declaration as a regular Soldier.
Q By the Court. State the names of some of the regular officers, who were with the Troops, when you served. Such Continental & Militia Regiments, as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your service.
Answer by the Declarant. I recollect Major Armistead. General Warden, who I believe was of the Continental Troops. The names or numbers of the Continental or Militia Regiments I do not recollect. The circumstances of my service I have already detailed.
Question by the Court. Did you ever receive a discharge from the Service, and if so by whom was it given, and what has become of it.
Answer by the Declarant. In my first Service I was discharged by my Captain Skumpkopp in my second by my Captain Henry - and in my third Militia term by my Captain White. In each of these cases I received written dis-

charges, and have since lost them By the Court. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, & who can testify as to your cha- racter for veracity, and their belief of your services as a Soldier of the Revolution!
Answer by the Declarant. I am known And to the Solomon Wyatt a Clergyman who now resides within a few miles of me in the adjoining County of Jefferson, & was for many years, in this County my nearest neighbor, and is the nearest Clergyman to me who can testify most fully - & I am known to Carter
Valley Enquirer, and believe that the these persons would testify as to my character for veracity, and their belief of my services as a Soldier of the Revo- lution.
This Declarant hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or annuity, except the present and declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll

of the Agency of any State Sworn to and Subscribed the day aforesaid Thomas Palmer George McPorter S.M.
We Solomon Weyatt, a Cergymen residing in the County of Jefferson, adjoining to the County of Cochr in which the Declarant Thomas Palmer lives (he being the nearest Cergymen to the Decla- rant but acquainted with him) and Carter Talley residing in the County of Cochr, being the same County in which the Declarant lives, and both of the State of Tennessee, hereby Certify that we are well acquainted with Thomas Palmer who has Subscribed and Sworn to the above declaration that we be- lieve him to be about Seventy two years of age. That he is respected & beloved in the neighborhood where he resides, than have a Soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn & Subscribed the day and Year aforesaid. Solomon Weyatt George McPorter Carter Talley S.M.
And the Said Court do hereby declare

their opinion after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories presented by the War Department that the above named Applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier and Served as he States - and the Court further Certifies that it appears to them that Solomon Wyatt who has signed the preceding Certificate is a resident in the adjoining County of Jefferson, & State of Tennessee, and that Carter Talley Esquire who has also signed the same is a Resident of the County of Cocke and State aforesaid and an Credible person, and that their Statement is entitled to credit.
I George Mc Porter clerk of the court of pleas and quarter sessions of the County of Cocke in the State of Tennessee do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said court in the matter of the application of Thomas Palmer for a pension
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 27th day of February A.D 1833 -
G. Mc Porter clerk

State of Tennessee Cocke County
I John Inman Chairman of the Court of Pleas & Sessions of the County of Cocke, in the State of Tennessee do hereby certify that G. M. Pate is Clerk of the County Court aforesaid and that due faith and Credit shall be given to his acts as such.
In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & affixed my private Seal this 2 d day of March A.D. 1833.
John Inman Chairman of the County Court of Cocke County.

Thomas Palmer
Transfer
from 1788. private W. J. G.
$40 on Roll
on Roll
W. J. Anderson 1 st Comptroller

WAR DEPARTMENT,
Pension Office,
August 3 rd 1833
Sir:
The evidence in support of your claim, under the act of June 7, 1832, has been examined, and the papers are herewith returned. The following is a statement of your case in a tabular form. On comparing these papers with the following rules, and the subjoined notes, you will readily perceive that objections exist, which must be removed, before a pension can be allowed. The notes and the regulations will shew what is necessary to be done. Those points to which your attention is more particularly directed, you will find marked in the margin with a brace, (thus: { ). You will, when you return your papers to this Department, send this printed letter with them; and you will, by complying with this request, greatly facilitate the investigation of your claim.
A Statement, shewing the Service of Thomas Palmer
   Period when the service was rendered. Duration of the claimant's service. Rank of the claimant. Names and rank of the Field officers under whom he served. Age at present, and place of abode when he entered the service. Proof by which the declaration is supported.   Years. Months. Days.     March 1781 drafted 3 P a . Maj Armstead 72 Va Traditionary.   " 3 " Maj Cox. do.   " 3 " Col Wisswonger do.   enlisted 1782 3 " Maj Watts living witness, not certified to be credible.  
I am, respectfully,
Your obedient servant,
J. L. EDWARDS,
Commissioner of Pensions.

REGULATIONS UNDER THE ACT OF JUNE 7, 1832.
The following regulations have been adopted:
This law has been construed to extend, as well to the line, as to every branch of the Staff of the Army, and to include under the terms "Continental Line," "State troops," "militia," and "volunteers," all persons enlisted, drafted, or who volunteered and who were bound to military service, but not those who were occasionally employed with the army upon civil contracts, such as Clerks to Commissaries and to Store Keepers, &c., Teamsters, Boatmen, &c. Persons who served on board of private armed vessels are also excluded from the benefits of the law, as well as persons who turned out as patrols, or were engaged in guarding particular places at night, and were not recognized as being in actual military service.
Four general classes of cases are embraced in this law:
 1. The Regular Troops.  2. The State Troops, Militia, and Volunteers.  3. Persons employed in the Naval Service.  4. Indian Spies. 
As rolls of the regular troops in the Revolutionary War exist in this Department, all persons claiming the benefit of this law as officers, non-commissioned officers, musicians or privates, will, in the first instance, make application by transmitting the following declaration, which will be made before a Court of Record of the County where such applicant resides. And every Court having by law a seal and Clerk is considered a Court of Record.
DECLARATION,
In order to obtain the benefit of the Act of Congress of the 7th of June, 1832.
State, Territory, or District of } ss. County of }
On this day of personally appeared (a) before A. B. a resident (b) of in the county of and State, Territory or District of aged (c) years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration, in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress, passed June 7th, 1832. That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year (d) , with and served in the (e) regiment of the line, under the following named officers :
[Here set forth the names and rank of the Field and Company Officers ; the time he left the service ; (and if he served under more than one term of enlistment, he must specify the particular period, and rank and names of his officers ; ) the town or county and State in which he resided when he entered the service ; the battles, if any, in which he was engaged, and the country through which he marched. (This form is to be varied so as to apply to the cases of officers and persons who belonged to the militia, volunteers, navy, &c.)]
He hereby relinquishes every claim (f) whatever to a pension or an annuity, except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the Pension Roll of any Agency in any State, or (if any) only on that of the Agency in the State of
Sworn to and subscribed the day and year aforesaid.
A. B.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion (g) that the above named applicant was a revolutionary soldier, and served as he states.
I of the Court of do hereby certify (h) that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office (i) this day of &c.
If, on examination of the proper record, the names of applicants, making such declaration, cannot be found, they will produce such proof as the rule given in note (j) points out.
Every applicant who claims a pension by virtue of service in the State Troops, Volunteers or Militia, except those who belonged to the New Hampshire Militia and State Troops of Virginia, will make and subscribe a declaration similar to the foregoing, with the following additions, viz:
(k) We, A. B., a Clergyman, residing in the and C. D. residing in (the same) hereby certify, that we are well acquainted with , who has subscribed and sworn to the above declaration; that we believe him to be years of age; that he is reputed and believed, in the neighborhood where he resides, to have been a soldier of the Revolution, and that we concur in that opinion.
Sworn and subscribed the days and year aforesaid.
[And then will follow the certificate of the Court.]
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion, after the investigation of the matter, and after putting the interrogatories prescribed by the War Department, that the above named applicant was a Revolutionary Soldier, and served as he states. And the Court further certifies, that it appears to them that A. B. who has signed the preceding certificate is a clergyman, resident in the and that C. D., who has also signed the same is a resident in the and is a credible person, and that their statement is entitled to credit.
I, Clerk of the Court of do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court, in the matter of the application of for a pension.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and seal of office, this day of &c.
Every applicant will produce the best proof in his power. This is the original discharge or commission; but if neither of these can be obtained, the party will so state under oath, and will then procure, if possible, the testimony of at least one credible witness, stating in detail his personal knowledge of the services of the applicant, and such circumstances connected therewith, as may have a tendency to throw light upon the transaction.
If such surviving witness cannot be found, the applicant will so state in his declaration, (l) and he will also, whether he produce such evidence or not, proceed to relate all the material facts, which can be useful in the investigation of his claim, and in the comparison of his narrative with the events of the period of his

alleged service, as they are known at the Department. A very full account of the services of each person will be indispensable to a favorable action upon his case. The facts stated will afford one of the principal means of corroborating the declaration of the applicant, if true, or of detecting the imposition, if one be attempted; and unless, therefore, these are amply and clearly set forth, no favorable decision can be expected. All applicants will appear before some Court of Record in the County in which they reside, and there subscribe and be sworn to, one of the declarations above provided, according to the nature of his case.
The Court will propound the following (m) interrogatories to all applicants for a pension, on account of service in the Militia, State troops, or Volunteers, except the Militia of New Hampshire and the State troops of Virginia.
 1. Where and in what year were you born?  2. Have you any record of your age, and if so, where is it?  3. Where were you living when called into service; where have you lived since the Revolutionary war, and where do you now live?  4. How were you called into service; were you drafted, did you volunteer, or were you a substitute? And if a substitute, for whom?  5. State the names of some of the Regular Officers, who were with the troops, where you served; such Continental and Militia Regiments as you can recollect, and the general circumstances of your services.  6. { To a Soldier. } Did you ever receive a discharge from the service, and if so, by whom was it given, and what has become of it? { To an Officer. } Did you ever receive a commission, and if so, by whom was it signed, and what has become of it?  7. State the names of persons to whom you are known in your present neighborhood, and who can testify as to your character for veracity, and their belief of your services as a soldier of the Revolution. 
The Court will see that the answers to these questions are embodied in the declaration, and they are requested to annex their opinions of the truth of the statement of the applicant.
The applicant will further produce in Court, if the same can be done, in the opinion of the Court, without too much expense and inconvenience to him, two respectable persons—one of whom should be the nearest clergyman, if one lives in the immediate vicinity of such applicant, who can testify, from their acquaintance with him, that they believe he is of the age he represents, and that he is reputed and believed in the neighborhood to have been a Revolutionary soldier, and that they concur in that opinion. If one of these persons is a Clergyman, the Court will so certify, and they will also certify to the character and standing of other persons giving such certificates.
The traditional evidence of service is deemed very important, in the absence of any direct proof, except the declaration of the party. And the Courts are requested to be very particular in the enquiry whether the belief is general, and whether any doubts have ever existed upon the subject.
Applicants unable to appear in Court, by reason of bodily infirmity, may make the declaration before required, and submit to the examination, before a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record of the proper county, and the Judge or Justice will execute the duties, which the Court is herein requested to perform, and will also certify that the applicant cannot, from bodily infirmity, attend the Court.
Whenever any official act is required to be done by a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or by a Justice of the Peace, the certificate of the Secretary of State or Territory, or of the proper Clerk of the Court or County, under his seal of office, will be annexed, stating that such person is a Judge or Justice of a Court of Record, or a Justice of the Peace, and that the signature annexed is his genuine signature.
No payments can be made on account of the services of any person, who may have died before the taking effect of the act of June 7, 1832; and in case of death subsequent thereto, and before the declaration herein required is made, the parties interested will transmit such evidence as they can procure, taken and authenticated before a Court of Record, showing the services of the deceased, the period of his death, the opinion of the neighborhood respecting such services, the title of the claimant, and the opinion of the Court upon the whole matter.
[a] The declarant must appear in open Court, unless prevented from doing so by reason of bodily infirmity; in which case the declarant will follow the rule laid down for his guidance.
[b] The declarant must make his declaration in the county where he resides. If he should fail to do so, he must assign a sufficient reason for not conforming to the rule.
[c] The age of the claimant must invariably be mentioned.
[d] The declarant must mention the period or periods of the war when he served. he served.
[e] Every continental officer or soldier must give the name of the Colonel under whom he served; otherwise a satisfactory examination of the claim cannot be had. Every claimant must state, with precision, the length of his service, and the different grades in which he served, in language so definite as to enable the Department to determine to what amount of pension he is entitled. In a case where the applicant cannot, by reason of the loss of memory, state precisely how long he served, he should amend his declaration by making an affidavit in the following words:
"Personally appeared before me, the undersigned, a Justice of the Peace, &c. A. B. who, being duly sworn, deposeth and saith, that, by reason of old age, and the consequent loss of memory, he cannot swear positively as to the precise length of his service; but, according to the best of his recollection, he served not less than the periods mentioned below, and in the following grades:—For _____ year _____ months, and _____ days, I served as a _____. For _____ months and _____ days, I served as a _____; and for such service I claim a pension."
It is important, in all cases, to determine with precision the period for which each applicant served, and the particular rank he held, as the law directs the pension to be paid according to the grade of the pensioner and the length of his service. The use of the phrase about three or four months, is too indefinite, and all such qualifying expressions are objectionable. Some persons who apply for pensions merely state that they served two years in the militia, &c. without specifying the tours, the names of the officers, and other particulars respecting their service. This form of a declaration is highly objectionable. It must, in every case, be clearly shown under what officers the applicant served; the duration of each term of engagement; the particular place or places where the service was performed; that the applicant served with an embodied corps called into service by competent authority; that he was either in the field or in garrison; and for the time during which the service was performed, he was not employed in any civil pursuit.
[f] The law makes the relinquishment indispensable.
[g] The opinion of the Court is always required.
[h] The Clerk must give his certificate in every case.
[i] The Clerk must affix his seal, and if it has no device or inscription by which it can be distinguished from any other seal, or if he has no public seal of office, the certificate of a Member of Congress, proving the official character and signature of the certifying officer, should accompany the papers.
Mode of authenticating papers.
In every instance where the certificate of the certifying officer who authenticates the papers is not written on the same sheet of paper which contains the affidavit, or other papers authenticated, the certificate must be attached thereto by a piece of tape or narrow ribbon, the ends of which must pass under the seal of office of the certifying officer, so as to prevent any paper from being improperly attached to the certificate.
Proof of Service.
[j] In a case where the name of the applicant is not found on the records of the Department, he must prove his service by two credible witnesses who are required to set forth in their affidavits the time of the claimant's entering the service, and the time and manner of his leaving the same, as well as the regiment, company, and line to which he belonged. The magistrate who may administer the oaths must certify to the credibility of the witnesses, and the official character and signature of the magistrate must be certified by the proper officer, under his seal of office.
[k] The notes from [a] to [i] are all equally applicable to the cases of Militia men, Volunteers and State Troops. The proof required by rule in note [j] applies to continental troops only.
[l] This traditional evidence is indispensable in militia cases.
[m] If a witness cannot be found, the declarant must state the fact.
[n] The answers to the interrogatories must all be written, and sent to the War Department, with the declaration.

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M Revised
Cleveland Tenn.
May 26 - 1915:
Comm. of Pensions of Revolution
Dear Sir,
Please send me a copy of my Great + Grand Father's record. He was in the Revolution war Enlisted in Fenton Co. Va. Also send me the record of his Brother S. 8928 Geo. Palmer he joined at the same place. He made Application from some town in Ohio I think in the year 1818. + Thomas Palmer sent in his Application from Knoxville Tennessee.
You sent these two records to E. M. Palmer, Glendale Illinois in May two years ago. Please as soon as possible I am a decendant, E. J. Newton 8162 - 32 St,

March 17, 1936.
Pauline Palmer Apartment C--5 Jackson Building Nashville, Tennessee.
am BA-J/ILL THOMAS PALMER S. 3651
Dear Madam:
Reference is made to your letter in which you request the Revolutionary War records of Thomas Palmer, a pensioner of Hamilton County, Tennessee, in 1840, William Palmer, a pensioner of Orange County, Virginia, in 1786, William Palmer, a corporal in Colonel Daniel Morgan's Virginia regiment, and Captain John Palmer of South Carolina, listed in Heitman's Historical Register.
Because of the great demand for Revolutionary War data and the limited clerical force available for furnishing such information, it is impossible to comply in full with requests pertaining to soldiers of that war. The record of Thomas Palmer is given herein as shown in his claim for pension, S. 3651, based upon service in that war. It is the record of the only soldier with that name who was a pensioner of Tennessee, found on the Revolutionary War pension records.
should have been with each request
Thomas Palmer was born in the year 1760, in Loudoun County, Virginia; the names of his parents are not shown.
While a resident of Loudoun County, Virginia, he enlisted and served as private in the Virginia troops, shown as follows: from March 1781, three months in Captain Thomas Humphrey's company, under Major Dennis Ramsey and was in skirmishes at a ferry of the James River, at Williamsburg and at the shipyard below Richmond; then three months in Captain John Henry's company, and was in a skirmish near Jamestown, which service was rendered as substitute for his brother, John Palmer; in the fall of 1781, three months in Captain Henry White's company under Colonel Mosevonger and was at the Siege of Yorktown; and from sometime in May 1782, three months in Captain Henry Bowyer's

company under Major John Watts, guarding prisoners at Winchester.
After the Revolutionary War, Thomas Palmer moved to Bedford County, Virginia, thence to Greene County, Tennessee, and from there to Cocke County, Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 28, 1833, at which time he resided in Cocke County, Tennessee.
No reference was made to wife or children of the above noted soldier, Thomas Palmer.
It is suggested that information regarding the military records of the soldiers of the Revolutionary War in whom you are interested might be obtained from The Adjutant General, War Department this city.
Very truly yours,
G. H. SWENT, Acting Executive Assistant to the Administrator.

Jan'y - 18 - 1901 - Hist. 6
C. H. Wells - Denver, Cal
1913 May 23 Hist. to Edwin M. Palmer. Letter in P.L. 8928 John Palmer. V.L.M.
1915 May 29 Hist. to Mrs. E. J. Newton
1918 Mar. 19. Photostat copies of 14 pages delivered to Edwin M. Palmer
1930 - July 8 - Hist. to Pauline Palmer - I.L.L.
1931 - April 9 - Hist. to Lydia T. Griffith I.L.L.
1931 May 27 Mrs. J. W. Griffith adv. as to 6-7. Sato East. Pigeon etc. - in CS
1936 - Mar. 17 - Hist. to Pauline Palmer - I.L.L.
Rev War
3651.
INVALID.
File No. 3651
Thomas Palmer
Print Rev War
Act: June 7, 1832
Index: - Vol. 8 , Page 287
[Arrangement of 1870.]

Thomas Palmer
Person Appli- cation
Thomas Palmer
Address of the Applicant
"Chucky Bend Jefferson County. East Tennessee."

State of Tennessee Cocke County November 28 th 1832 On this 28 th day of November pres-
ently appeared in open court before the justices of the court (now sitting) in the County of Cocke, in the State of Tennessee, Thomas Palmer a resident of the County of Cocke & State of Tennessee, aged about Seventy two years, who being first duly sworn, according to law, doth on his oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefit of the provision made by the act of Congress passed June 7 th 1832. — That he enlisted in the Army of the United States in the year 1782, in the month of May as well as he recollects with Captain Henry Boyer, in Winchester Virginia — That the Company in which he enlisted was not organized into any Regiment, nor does he know to what line his Company would have been attached, or who was appointed to command the Regiment of which it was to form a part. Captain Boyer & his Company, during the whole time of service, as well as he recollects, were under the Command of Major John Watts — This defendant enlisted for three years. He was honorably discharged after Peace was made. He has since lost his discharge. The Company remained stationary at Winchester Virginia. They

Declarant enlisted in said Company, immediately, after his third term of service in the Virginia Militia had expired - and as until he recruits he served three or four months in the United States Regular line, before he was discharged, in consequence of Peace.
He hereby relinquishes every claim whatever to a pension or an annuity except the present, and he declares that his name is not on the pension roll of any Agency in any State.
Sworn to and subscribed the his Thomas Palmer day & year aforesaid (mark)
And the said Court do hereby declare their opinion that the above Applicant was a revolutionary soldier as he states.
State of Tennessee Coche County } November Session 1832.
I G. McPeters Clerk of the County Court of Coche County do hereby certify that the foregoing contains the original proceedings of the said Court in the matter of the application of Thomas Palmer for a Pension.
In Testimony whereof I have

private there being no seal hereunto Set my hand & Seal of Office this 26 th day of November 1832. G. M. Porter. Clerk
State of Tennessee Sevier County
I John Inman Chairman of the Court of Pleas & Quarter Sessions of the County of Sevier in the State of Tennessee do hereby Certify that G. M. Porter is Clerk of the County Court aforesaid, and that due faith & credit should be given to his acts as such In Testimony whereof I have
hereunto set my hand & private Seal the 2 nd March 1833 John Inman
Chairman of the County Court Sevier County

state of Tennessee Carroll county
This day personally appeared before me John Gillet one of the acting justices of the peace for the said county William Langley and maketh oath in due form of law that he is acquainted with Thomas Parker that he now he did serve in the old Revolution War as a soldier for more than twelve months part of this time under capt Thomas Rutherford and major Dennis Rutherford as a military man drafted from Virginia state Lauderdale county served to and subscribe this 3 day
Sept 14 32
William Langley
John Gillet Justice of the peace for Carroll county

State of Tennessee } Cocke County }
I George McPorter clerk of the court of pleas and quarter sessions for cocke county in the state of Tennessee Do certify that the John G. Galt whose name appears subscribed to the within affidavit as the officer before whom it was taken was at that time and is now an acting Justice of the peace of said county and that full faith and credit is due to all his official acts as such
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal private seal having no seal of office the 29 day of March 1833
G. McPorter clerk
Affidavit of Gardley as to the services of Wm. C. Palmer

State of Tennessee Rocky County November 28 th 1832.
Personally appeared in open Court Gilbert North of the County & State aforesaid, who being duly sworn, says that he recollects to have seen Thomas Palmer, now of the County of Rocky & State aforesaid at the Siege of Little York, acting as a Soldier, in the Virginia Troops — But this Affiant has no special knowledge of the details of Service in which said Thomas Palmer was engaged.
Sworn to & subscribed in open Court this 28 th Gilbert North November 1832 George McPorter Clerk
I George McPorter clerk of the Court of pleas and quarter sessions for the County of Rocky in the State of Tennessee do certify that the foregoing affidavit was duly made in open Court on the 28 th day of November 1832
In testimony whereof I have hereunto set my hand & private seal (having no official seal) this 2 nd day of March 1833
G. McPorter Clerk

PAID
Thomas Oliver Oct 30
FREE
J. L. Edwards Esq. Pension Agent Commissioner of Pensions Washington D.C. Mr. Galt

Knoxville Ten Oct 3 d
Dear Sir
Sometime ago I enclosed you the Pension papers of Mr Thomas Palmer to be paid at Washington. The reason I did so was they had not been presented to the Agent in time for him to pay it at this place. I have heard nothing from them since. I suppose that it has been some four or five months since they were sent to you. I hope you will examine into the matter soon and forward me with a draft with the instructions for the Agent to pay the balance at this place.
Yours Truly J. C. Ramsey

East Tennessee Agency Knoxville Jan'y 3 rd 1837.
Sir
You will please find enclosed the papers of Thomas Palmer a pensioner who applied this day for his pension; on examination of my Books I find that Mr Palmer has not drawn his pay since the 4 day of September 1835; I have in my possession his original certificate of pension all submitted for your consideration and further instructions.
I am Respectfully your obedt Servt A. H. M c Adams Agent
James L. Edwards Esq. Commissioner of Pensions Washington City

RECORD & PENSION OFFICE
DEC 31
639208
WAR DEPARTMENT
Denver Colo Dec 27. 1900
Thomas Palmer of Va. Rev War
C. H. Wells asks for a record of pension paid to above named.
Record and Pension Office,
WAR DEPARTMENT,
Washington, Dec. 31, 1900:
Respectfully returned to
Mr. C. H. Wells, Registrar, Colorado Society, S.A.R., Denver, Colorado,
with the information that applications of this character should be addressed to the Commissioner of Pensions, Washington, D. C., who is the custodian of the pension records of all wars, and whose office is separate and distinct from the Record and Pension Office of the War Department.
BY AUTHORITY OF THE SECRETARY OF WAR:
[Signature]
Chief, Record and Pension Office.
Per [initials]
(300a)

PRESIDENT, BRIG. GEN'L IRVING HALE, 808 SIXTEENTH ST. DENVER.
VICE PRESIDENTS, JOS. F. TUTTLE, JR. 58 W. FIRST AVE. DENVER.
DR. W. R. WHITEHEAD, 815 FIFTEENTH ST. DENVER.
WM. F. SLOCUM, D. D. COLORADO SPRINGS.
THE COLORADO SOCIETY.
SECRETARY, ARTHUR M. EDWARDS, 648 EQUITABLE BLDG. DENVER.
TREASURER, S. B. HARDY, 1643 CHAMPA STREET, DENVER.
REGISTRAR, C. H. WELLS, P. O. BOX 1518, DENVER.
Denver, Colo. Dec. 27 th 1900.
Col. F. C. Ginnworth. Chief of Record & Pension Office War Dept. Washington D. C.
Dear Sir, -
Will you kindly furnish me with record of pension said to have been paid to one Thomas Palmer , who evidently enlisted from Virginia, (London Co.) and served five years under Genl. Washington at Valley Forge, Cowpens, and surrender of Cornwallace at Yorktown. He died in 1853. in Hamilton Co. Tennessee, Yours truly, C. H. Wells. Registrar, Colo. So. A. G. R.
PENSION

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BUREAU OF PENSIONS Finance Division
NOV 7 1918 191_
Chieftess War Jacket Sir:
I have this day received from Samuel Palmer draft No. Cash for $ 2.00 requesting post office address as per letter herewith.
Yours sincerely Very respectfully, W. Campbell Chief of Division
Date Nov 8 1918  Name Thomas Palmer No. 63651  Mr. Thorne  Mr. Red. n  Photographic copies wanted of 14 pieces, consisting of n pages.  Remarks: Ext. William Chief Rev. John Brown  APPROVED: J. H. Davis Law Clerk.  Serial No. 760

Edwin M. Palmer - Glendale Ills but hold copies until called for delivered to Mr Palmer in person Nov. 19. 1918.
Rev. War claim Thomas Palmer - S 3651 sol. decla of Nov. 28, 1832 " " " Feb. 23, 1833 } 14 pages " John Palmer S 8928 sol. decla. of Nov. 23, 1818 " " " Oct. 2 1847 } 6 pages
Cash $3. ✓ Mr H. 20 pages
No receipt to Mr. Palmer necessary.
Proctor Farm 11/7/18

A. J. LAMAR B. A. WHITMORE Publishing Agents D. M. SMITH Agent Emeritus
NASHVILLE SAN FRANCISCO DALLAS RICHMOND
Publishing House Methodist Episcopal Church, South
LAMAR & WHITMORE, Agents NASHVILLE, TENN.
May 18, 1930.
Mr. Earl D. Church, Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sir:
Will you please give me information in regard to Thomas Palmer who was pensioned in Cocke County, Tenn.? He was supposed to have been in Marion's brigade and in the Battle of King's Mountain.
Thanking you for whatever information you can give me, I am
Yours very truly,
Pauline Palmer
300 - 24th Avenue, South, Nashville, Tenn.

HOUSES TO RENT CAMPING
REVOLUTIONARY & WAR PENSIONS SECTION APR 25 1931
PHONE JULIAN 26-F-2
SPEND YOUR VACATION AMONG THE PINES
Griffith's Pine Court
P. O. BOX 63
Julian, California
Apr. 20, 1931
Bureau of Pensions Washington, D. C.
Regarding Rev. War pension claim S 36 51 granted to Thomas Palmer of Cocke Co. Tenn in 1833
Will you please give me the date of the last pension voucher sent to Thomas Palmer? Amount of same. Did his widow receive a pension if so please give date of last pension voucher sent to her & amount of same?
Is there any record of a pension given to one Moore who is said to have been a soldier with the above Thomas Palmer. I think his name was William Moore & he may have lived in Cocke, Greene, Jefferson or Bradley Co.
They are buried side by side & were children from boys, so the story is handed down. I deeply appreciate the full information which you gave me in over

your letter of Apr 8, -1931 for I am writing a book, Stories, as handed down. Thanking you again
I remain Lydia Palmer Griffith (Mrs J. W. Griffith)

Revolutionary Griffith's Pine Court P. O. BOX 63
Julian, California
Mar. 4 - 1931
U.S. Pension Com., Washington D.C.
Would like to get the date of the last pension voucher sent my ancestor Thomas Palmer one of the soldiers at Yorktown Va.
His pension was granted in 1832. His proof was from Coche Co., Tenn. & his witness being Rev. Salomon Wyatt & Esquire Carter Tally. It is said he once drew his pension from Knoxville Tenn. but the place must have been changed as he he lived near Birchwood Tenn. in Hamilton Co.
What pension did he get & how often & the date of the last voucher?
Thanking you Lydia Palmer Griffith over,

War of 1812.
Is there any record of a pension being paid Thomas our  Palmer a soldier in the War of 1812 ?
He must have sent in proof from Bradley Co Tenn. His last years were spent in So. Illinois and pension papers might have been sent to Golconda or Glendale Ill.
What pension? He died in 1852.

Apartment C--5, Jackson Building, Nashville, Tenn., January 2, 1936.
Bureau of Pensions, Washington, D. C.
Dear Sirs:
Will you please send me the records of the following drawn by Mar 16 Revolutionary soldiers: Only few from Tenn. MC-S
✓ Thomas Palmer, pensioned in Hamilton County, Tenn., in 1840, aged 81
✓ William Palmer, pensioned in Orange County, Va., in 1786. Lost a leg in the war.
Also, I should like to have the records of two who, as far as I know, did not receive pensions. If you do not handle records other than pensions, I would greatly appreciate your telling me to whom to write for the information. The names of the soldiers are:
✓ William Palmer, corporal in Col. Daniel Morgan's Vir- ginia regiment. He is given in Saeffel's List.
✓ John Palmer, captain in the South Carolina militia under General Marion in 1780. He is listed in Heitman's Historical Register.
Thanking you for whatever information you can give me,
Very truly yours,
Pauline Palmer Pauline Palmer

May 27, 1931
Mrs. J. W. Griffith P. O. Box 63 Griffith's Pine Court Julian, California
Rev.& 1812 Wars Section MCS:MLB
Dear Madam:
You are advised that in order to obtain the date and amount of last payment of pension of Thomas Palmer, S. 3651, it is suggested that you address the Comptroller General, General Accounting Office, Records Division, Washington, D. C., citing the following data:
Thomas Palmer, Certificate 19131, issued August 5, 1833, rate $40 per annum, commenced March 4, 1831, Act June 7, 1832, East Tennessee Agency.
An application for pension was never made to the United States by any one as the widow of this soldier.
The Revolutionary War records of this bureau fail to afford any information in regard to a William Moore as described.
Very truly yours
E. W. MORGAN Acting Commissioner

April 9, 1931.
Lydia Palmer Griffith P.O.Box 63 Julian, California.
Rev.& 1812 Wars Section ILL
Dear Madam:
You are advised that it appears from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 3651, that Thomas Palmer was born in 1760 in Loudoun County, Virginia.
While a resident of Loudoun County, Virginia, he enlisted and served as a private in the Virginia troops as follows: from March, 1781, three months in Captain Thomas Humphrey's Company under Major Dennis Ramsey, and was in skirmishes at a ferry on the James River, at Williamsburg and at the shipyard below Richmond; following this, three months in Captain John Henry's Company, as a substitute for his brother John Palmer, and was in a skirmish near Jamestown; in fall, 1781, three months in Captain Henry White's Company under Colonel Nisewonger and was at the siege of Yorktown; from some time in May, 1782, three months in Captain Henry Bowyer's Company under Major John Watts, guarding prisoners at Winchester.
After the Revolution, soldier moved to Bedford County, Virginia, thence to Greene County, Tennessee and after that to Cocke County, Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 28, 1833, while a resident of Cocke County, Tennessee.
There are no
family data other than the reference to his brother, John Palmer.
Very truly yours,
E.W.MORGAN, Acting Commissioner.
The original copy was O.K. but the roller did not hold carbon at bottom of page - J.L.S.

Rev. & 1812 Wars Section ILL
July 9, 1930.
Pauline Palmer 300 Twenty-fourth Avenue, South Nashville, Tennessee.
Dear Madam:
I advise you from the papers in the Revolutionary War pension claim, S. 3651, it appears that Thomas Palmer was born in 1760 in Loudoun County, Virginia.
While a resident of Loudoun County, Virginia, he enlisted in March 1781 and served three tours of three months each during that year as private under Captains Thomas Humphrey, John Henry and Henry White, Major Dennis Ramsey and Colonel Nisewonger in the Virginia troops, the second tour as a substitute for his brother, John Palmer; he enlisted in May 1782 and served three months as a private in Captain Henry Bowyer's Company under Major John Watts in the Virginia troops; he was in several skirmishes, one at a ferry on the James River, one at Williamsburg, one at the shipyard below Richmond, one near Jamestown and was at the siege of Yorktown.
After the Revolution, soldier moved to Bedford County, Virginia, thence to Greene County, Tennessee, and after that to Cocke County, Tennessee.
He was allowed pension on his application executed November 28, 1833, while a resident of Cocke County, Tennessee.
There are no family data on file other than the reference to his brother, John Palmer.
Very truly yours,
E. W. MORGAN, Acting Commissioner.

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, BUREAU OF PENSIONS.
Washington, D. C., _____, 19____
In reply to your request of _____, received _____ for a statement of the military history of Thomas Palmer a soldier of the REVOLUTIONARY WAR, you will find below the desired information as contained in his (or his widow's) application for pen- sion on file in this Bureau.
   DATES OF ENLISTMENT OR APPOINTMENT. LENGTH OF SERVICE. RANK. OFFICERS UNDER WHOM SERVICE WAS RENDERED. STATE.   CAPTAIN. COLONEL.     Feb. 1781 3 mos. Pvt. Thomas Humphrey Major Dennis Ramsey Va.   * 1781 3 mos. John Henry   1781 3 mos. Henry White "Nisewonger" Nisewonger   May 1782 3 mos. Henry Bowyer Major John Watts  
* sat for brother John
Battles engaged in, Ship Yard near Richmond , and in rear of Yorktown , James River, Williamsburg ?
Residence of soldier at enlistment, Loudoun Co. Va.
Date of application for pension, Nov. 1832. His ch. was ab.
Residence at date of application, Leesburg, Va.
Age at date of application, b. in Loudoun Co. Va. in 1760.
Remarks: No data as to family? Bro John
Very respectfully,
Commissioner.